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Start Me Up: Mamaw's Porch n Politics · Start Me Up with Kimberley A. Johnson

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the Star Media Podcast part of MSW Media in the sexy liberal podcast network.
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[SPEAKER_00]: On your host, Kimberly Johnson in DC.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Today, my returning guest is Lisa Parker of Mamas, porch, and politics.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We love Lisa.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She lives in Ohio, Appalachia.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's in Trump country.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's got such a unique perspective, but before we get into it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now please enjoy my conversation with Lisa Parker of memos portion politics.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back to the show, Memo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How are you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, well, I have a lot of questions for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then maybe I'll determine how I am.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do we have a little bit to talk about since we last spoke?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, yes it's been a shit show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I just, I want to start this off because this is, um, this, I think we're all thinking this and because you live where you live right in the heart of it in Appalachian Ohio.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So pretty much at this point, you know, say for the cultiest of the mega the entire world hates Donald Trump.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody hates this guy, but we hold on, but my question to you because we have we have seen him win elections and we don't believe those elections even the DNC is basically said that Kamala Harris won because of all their fucking cheating basically it's like the I don't know I did not read the DNC autopsy I just read what people said about it from what I understand so I could be incorrect and if you know you can correct me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's not that they so much talked about whatever happened illegally, but legally they definitely suppressed votes which led to Trump winning so we always think we know so many of us thought we were going to win not everybody about a lot of people thought we were going to win in 2024 and we didn't so how confident are you that we're going to be able to pull off this in the midterms because we know that regardless of whether Trump lives or dies before the midterms.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The oligarchs are the ones in power and they don't want to lose it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They are going to have this like death grip on the nation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I want to know what you think about the midterms.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a little bit different take on things that you do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know you do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why you're here because common lost.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think there was that much tanker and shame on the DNC for not realistically looking in the mirror because I got problems with a lot of the things the DNC has done and continues to do as I do with my own the Ohio Democratic Party.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They keep wanting to do the definition of insanity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They think they're going to keep doing the same thing over and over and win and they're not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe she lost solely because 10 million people sat home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We had that group up in Michigan that we're all but hurt over the stance on Palestine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they just didn't damn show up to vote and so the electoral college went that way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it was just, oh, everything's fine now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we don't have to worry about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what happened.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what they don't want to discuss or talk about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the same within pushing these old
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[SPEAKER_01]: candidate that's not where the country is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they need to look at these all top seas realistically.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do I think we're going to win the midterms?
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[SPEAKER_01]: How, yes, I think we are because as I said the first time that we spoke at that time, I said people aren't hurting enough and that's a horrible thing to say that they weren't hurting enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: People are really hurting now and we are on the precipice of being as imbattery shape as we were in 08, if not worse.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that a lot of people
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[SPEAKER_01]: that can't admit they made a mistake in voting for Taco will quietly pull that little curtain and they'll vote for a Democrat or not vote it all right or not vote it all stay home don't give shit you stay home just don't now that small core under 30 percent that worships him no matter what what they don't
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[SPEAKER_01]: of that core 30% will say 2% are the Braula Garks and they're already abandoned in ship.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They've already termed and we can take over Argentina since our assets are moving south, whether it's better anyway.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So and I think that's why Jimmy Hamill is rethinking 2028
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ham's number jd jd bands.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jimmy Hamilton.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Keep up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Keep up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't wait till he has to comply with the save act because you know he was Bowman and then Hamel and then.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Vance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then who knows what he'll be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He'll be tealed before it's over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, since Peter's done left him, you know, what's what's the boy going to do?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think people realize they have to take their country back, and I keep telling my followers, which have grown exponentially.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Look, we expect people to go into combat to war and to do their job and to go in and be fearless.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what we have to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No more excuses that somebody's going to make it hard to go to the polls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No more excuses.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, well, they might look at me or
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[SPEAKER_01]: You go vote.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's your superpower and no matter what you vote because that's what got rid of or a bond when you show up in overwhelming numbers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing Taco can do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that makes me feel good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's my mammal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we have fighters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And people are awake.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, it was us all gray-haired ladies that brought the 60s to you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got Title IX.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got the voting rights acting and we're just going to have to shake it off and get to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I want to kind of bring this over until I was, I don't know when I wrote this article, but it was a couple of years ago and I just refreshed it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it was about Catholic women and Republican women who get abortions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's a lot of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so yeah, and so last week I asked this question to Sarah what, but I want to ask you because you do live in, you know, a red state.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm wondering how our women, I mean, I don't know how much opportunity you've had to actually talk to these women about abortion, but at least what you're taking on this whole thing about what's happening because some of these women, all these red states are making it so difficult for, for pregnant women who don't want to be no matter what the situation is, no matter if they are carrying a fetus that isn't even viable or whatever it is, they're,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we're not hearing as many reports as we did earlier on about women dying, but I know those reports are there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, what do you know how red state women are feeling about these abortion beds?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, publicly or privately.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, privately.
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[SPEAKER_01]: See, in Ohio, everybody was on the, save the baby's bandwagon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Until we had that vote.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And guess what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have legal abortions in Ohio now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Our supermajority Republican man who, you know, we've got to preserve the man, see no matter what.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're all but hurt and they're wanting to, you know, overturn what the voters did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm telling you what, those women privately got behind that curtain at the voting booth, and we overwhelmingly passed that women have a right to choose in the state of Ohio.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's where I think all of it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're saying one thing publicly because, you know, they don't have a base with their little community, but privately, women know what women need to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so what I'm gonna take you to somebody completely different.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a woman that I know who's not at all,
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[SPEAKER_00]: like red state mentality.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She was an actress and living in Hollywood, just, you know, having fun with, you know, doing her thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I saw her posting recently.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that like her family is Trump.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're Trump supporters, and she pretty much just goes with whoever because they have money And she's taken care of by her Trump supporting family ex-husbands, whatever you want to call it So she is like I guess I don't know if she's considered mega But I saw some of the things that she reposted and stuff like and it's unbelievable to me because it's it's so red-state-ish And she never when I met her in the 90s and new her in the 90s
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[SPEAKER_00]: We never discussed politics, but I mean, I had just assumed she was liberal because our whole lifestyle was like a liberal lifestyle, but then come to find out, you know, she is like this sophisticated New Yorker type, she doesn't live in New York, but she has.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and California type, but yet she's mega.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think that these women who are specifically the ones who are wealthy and taking care of?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think that they're just happy to keep voting for the fascists because basically they're taking care of no matter what or do you think they're going to say hey, wait a minute.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I know there's always going to be a group that's going to be selfish, but I'm just talking in a general sense and using her.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you've got a couple of things
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[SPEAKER_01]: When you bring up red states, keep in mind that a lot of that is simply because the way they've jerry-mandered, they've taken away rights, so you have voices out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I look at the numbers on who's following me and from where they're from and who's in the Democratic Party and where they're from.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the way they're jerry-mandered that they have taken their voices away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you have, I mean, Missouri was the first state to ratify women's right to choose after a row was overturned.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not so much a red state.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's on who was able to silence women.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now my big thing all along has been, and I've been doing a lot of reading and research,
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[SPEAKER_01]: and I really have a problem with this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Educated women who've traveled and stuff, why they are maga, why they're still well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was all fine and dandy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, do you remember the Mean Girls in high school?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: they're the mean girls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And as long as they were going along, they got along and they got what they wanted even the ones that are well educated that are professionals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was okay as long as it was sticking it to somebody else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, hey, I'm sorry about your look, but it doesn't involve me so they out of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now it involves them, now they've stuck it to themselves and they don't like it, and it's hard to have sympathy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I've told people if you will, you know, part of healing, part of realizing you have to cure your addiction.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It could make you have a problem.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you met you and have a taco problem, I'm okay with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're welcome on the porch, but otherwise as long as you're okay with sticking it to other people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, then I am particularly salty these days and that's what we love because we are a salty show and I am so profane.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it's just maddening though because I mean, they're still going to be a group of people that just don't see it and it's just frustrating.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I am I am on board with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really like what you're saying about the midterms and I get scared, but I do believe you're correct.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now let me just take it a little bit further than that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's just go with, we win the midterms, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just go with the whole shabang.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We give both the Senate, we get the house.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, let's just say governorship and governorship and then you know, we're going to be in a very solid position.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like give ourselves these best possible outcome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, with the best possible outcome, you know, let's just say Trump's alive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do Trump's alive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then let's just do just for funsies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: J.D.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Vance's president, but let's just start off with Trump is alive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And what does that mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I guess you can add both of them in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, what does that going to look like?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We know they're going to, they're not necessarily going to be able to, you know, push through their agenda, although they don't follow rules anyway.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But like, what is, what do you think that's going to look like?
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[SPEAKER_01]: If we give the Senate and the House veto proof numbers, which I think we will in the House, the Senate, it may be razor thin, it depends on how but her they can be, I think, though with the senators.
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[SPEAKER_01]: they are screwed enough and they have six year terms there's screwed enough to read the tea leaves and if that many turn they're going to realize a hanging out with taco and covering his ass is not doing us any good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that's going to have a play, my husband, who is a wise man, who has still chafed over Taco being able to get out of, get us out of Vietnam, but he couldn't get out of a ran, but that's a whole other thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He says that if we win by big numbers and they start up these investigations which they will after the first of the year, when those investigations start, he thinks he's going to have a medial with Jimmy Hamel and he's going to resign and Jimmy Hamel's going to pardon him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that may happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I don't think Jimmy Hamill wants to go for 2028.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really don't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, the problem is that doesn't get him out of the problems that he's got in Georgia, that he's got in New York, that he has in Florida, or the the Hague.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, any way Taco looks at it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got his butt in a bind.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because when you lay out, it's to become roommates with Satan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But do you think, okay, so then like if Jimmy Hammel, that's weird for me to call him that because I'm not used to it, but sure why not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's his name.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that's his name.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how he went through high school, the Marine Corps Ohio State and Yale was under Jimmy Hammel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So do you think, okay, let's just say he's the president, do you think, because I, my theory, like, how can I say this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: My negative theory or my, like, I'm afraid of this happening theory, is that legacy media is going to treat him as reasonable, especially compared to Donald, and because there, I know that there aren't, like, I know young people aren't watching legacy media,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's still reaching someone, and I'm just wondering if they're going to be able to paint him as kind of more normal, because we do know that he knows he's smarter than Donald Trump, he knows what people think of Donald Trump and he's going to come across as this more reasonable kind of guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jimmy is not a true believer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jimmy's just doing what Jimmy's got to do to get along.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because you remember him back in 2016, the never Trump guy, good thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's been a chameleon all of his life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You just look at every generation of Jimmy Hamel when he's just constantly evolving and changing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He only became a taco pleaser because Peter Teele told him to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: if it looks like Peter's getting out of the game because he's going to cut his losses and he realizes he's president and tacos not he will wield his authority because tacos says he's left to note but for Jimmy and hell Jimmy ain't going to pay attention that he's going to do what Jimmy wants to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So in that aspect, yes, he's going to be much more reasonable than taco because even when he's painfully trying to justify some of the shit that comes out of tacos, mouth hole, you can see the pain of trying to twist it up because he is intelligent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I will give him that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is from no dummy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he's got dementia or syphilis on top of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's just got lizard brain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all that's left.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just lizard brain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is this reactive?
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[SPEAKER_01]: primitive lizard brain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're basically saying you don't think anybody's going to really buy or do you think, do you think JD would be more effective or do you think that everybody's just going to be okay?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like let's say Donald Trump is either taken out of the presidency because like of what you said or he dies of natural causes, whatever,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or how does he come off to voters?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do are they going to be a relief because it's not Trump anymore?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is he going to make everybody feel better?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or has everybody in this country?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, okay, we're sick of fascists as a whole.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we'll be on idle for two years that may be Congress in the Senate will start doing their damn job and get some legislation done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That would be nice wouldn't it yeah, and then because there's not much you can do all right, so let me ask you this so I may switch this over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because if it appears that Tala Riko is scaring the shit out of the Republicans, they're calling them Tala Friko, they're saying, they're saying he's a transgender person, as if that's a negative thing, they're doing it, Steven Miller did it, and Sarah Wood said last week on my show that he was just floating that to see if it would stick, and then I don't know, I don't know who it was, it was some ridiculous red state, you know, elected official,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Posted on Twitter this cartoon of basically Talorika.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was supposed to be Talorika Offering up children as sacrifices.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, they're they're going so hard on him and like my mother said He reminds she said I he reminds me of like Jimmy Carter type, which I great right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's he's very much that Jimmy Carter type So I want to know number one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to kind of like
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[SPEAKER_00]: dig in and why he scares them so much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I want your overall opinion because we do see that he's getting big crowds in Texas, but Beto got big crowds and he did lose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what's your take on him and why are a pub, why do you think they're, I mean, I think we all know, but I want to hear your take on why Republicans are so afraid because he's everything they're not, but they're trying to pretend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, God.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's smart.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's clean cut.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they're definition of clean cut.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You cannot argue the Bible with this spank.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You cannot out Jesus, towering.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got it down to an art form.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're not going to out Jesus.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They are not going to lay hands on this young man because he's already got this figured out and he's going to argue back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they don't have that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He truly believes in letting people be
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's this book, and I mean, come on, Steven Miller's damn vampire anyway.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Gives it shit with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Roachess.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nidious vampire.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would love for him to say it's a free for all in that UFC cage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'd like to go in there with Steven Miller.
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[SPEAKER_00]: let's see how tough that will toward it if it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought you would kick his ass.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He would just be a bloody pulp.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think that's, and that's what's getting him now as far as calling him transgender.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I want to say too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm looking at my, I'm looking at my camera knowing that you're not seeing this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mikey Johnson honey, I don't want you to pull out your waist, but you're in the little bit, because I don't think you got anything down there either.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, sometimes I just love you so much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, I am my mama always said you never mess with old women because they're closer to God.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No shit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Huh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the way I look at it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to be six years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's meet you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At this point, my life, what the hell are you going to do to me?
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you put me in jail, I'll have three hearts in a cot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: which is easier than making it on the outside right now with the account.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know, really isn't just unbelievable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, um, I want to say a couple more things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is going to be existential.
22:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's my little existential thought.
22:50
[SPEAKER_00]: So.
22:51
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I got a text or what my mom and I are very close.
22:55
[SPEAKER_00]: So she sent me some text and it was how we were the laughing stock of the world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think one of one of the texts that she sent me was somewhere in Norway.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was Norway.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was one of these countries Denmark where they were all laughing because Donald Trump wanted on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was in Denmark.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was in Denmark, yes, because what was the thing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a he wanted that title.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even remember the title.
23:17
[SPEAKER_01]: He wanted Greenland.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He wanted Greenland and then he.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
23:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he wants.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They just laughed out loud.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's and so we are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're like the laughing stock of the world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you seen what French news is done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
23:33
[SPEAKER_00]: You go ahead first and then I'll tell you.
23:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, well, no, I want to, I want to know, what is French news done?
23:40
[SPEAKER_01]: They are of showing every time Taco falls asleep somewhere.
23:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.
23:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're putting it on their national news broadcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Trump's sleeping through his presidency.
23:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's so, so yes, once again, and then of course Iran is doing all these cartoons.
23:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't seen any lately, but they're on about right.
23:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're calling them out as a pedophile.
23:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's not to say that I'm going to go ahead with the misogynistic people making these videos, but I'm glad that they're making them and they are really good.
24:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I won't share them, but I appreciate them.
24:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, okay, my existential thing is okay, so.
24:13
[SPEAKER_00]: A friend of mine had once said that she didn't want to live in a superpower because she felt like superpowers had too much hubris, they had too much power.
24:21
[SPEAKER_00]: They were just going to basically see themselves as an Earth God or whatever.
24:24
[SPEAKER_00]: And I get it, I agree with it.
24:26
[SPEAKER_00]: We had we have been a superpower.
24:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we have knocked ourselves off of that.
24:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think the world sees us that way anymore.
24:33
[SPEAKER_00]: It certainly doesn't take us, you know, seriously.
24:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I do think, however, though,
24:43
[SPEAKER_00]: It would be nice if we didn't have one.
24:45
[SPEAKER_00]: But if we're just, you know, a strong good country that has a lot of influence.
24:51
[SPEAKER_00]: That's good.
24:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm happy with that.
24:52
[SPEAKER_00]: But my question to you and my existential question to you is, do you think that on some level we kind of created this, this situation we're in right now, just so we could have this opportunity to
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[SPEAKER_00]: rebuild.
25:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I know that, you know, there were people saying burn it down.
25:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I was not one of those people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to keep things the way they were and improve upon them.
25:15
[SPEAKER_00]: But no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So things have been burning down.
25:19
[SPEAKER_00]: And the beauty about burning down is we have a whole new opportunity to rebuild better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: fix the things that have not been fixed, whether it's having to do with the Supreme Court or our Constitution.
25:35
[SPEAKER_00]: We have the opportunity to rewrite a Constitution that would reflect a lot of what the founding fathers wanted but updated.
25:43
[SPEAKER_00]: It matches the times we're living in, so I mean, do you think that that's even a possibility?
25:48
[SPEAKER_00]: And if it is a possible, like, how do you think we can do this because Democrats are still democrat leadership while I will always vote for it because I'm not going to vote for the fascists.
26:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, we still need to improve on what we're doing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have no doubt that that's possible and the people can push.
26:08
[SPEAKER_00]: But do you see it like do you see us building back a much stronger country?
26:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think this is our opportunity?
26:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Because it is our opportunity.
26:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think that.
26:22
[SPEAKER_01]: we have an opportunity to improve things.
26:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not full.
26:28
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of problems when people say redo the constitution.
26:31
[SPEAKER_01]: First of all, you would have to have a constitutional convention.
26:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Then you have to have 33 states, right?
26:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, blah.
26:40
[SPEAKER_01]: It would help to just follow the God-game constitution, to be honest with you, that would be a big step forward, but I do that grace.
26:49
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I think though, if we get enough people in there, we're going to be in a position.
26:56
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're only going to have this narrow two-year window.
27:01
[SPEAKER_01]: They've got to get the voting rights act in there.
27:04
[SPEAKER_01]: And then there's worker rounds.
27:06
[SPEAKER_01]: There is nothing, because I have read it and read it.
27:09
[SPEAKER_01]: There is nothing in that constitution that says, we can't age limit Supreme Court justices, for example.
27:18
[SPEAKER_01]: So put an age limit.
27:19
[SPEAKER_01]: You have to have a minimum age for to run for office.
27:22
[SPEAKER_01]: You have to have a maximum age to run for office.
27:24
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the kicker.
27:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Because when you look, there's more old-damn Democrats than there are old-damn Republicans.
27:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Although there are some that stand out.
27:34
[SPEAKER_01]: There's more.
27:35
[SPEAKER_01]: We've got to stop.
27:38
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's our fault as an electorate.
27:40
[SPEAKER_01]: We have to stop voting
27:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care what great job they've done.
27:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank him for their service.
27:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Hand him their gold watch and a lollipop and say, enjoy your retirement.
27:54
[SPEAKER_01]: We've got to stop putting these old farts in there because if you did, you would get the younger people in there that could update the laws that match the times we are living in.
28:06
[SPEAKER_01]: But as long as you got to him, old farts in there, it's never classed.
28:10
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
28:33
[SPEAKER_01]: We are three states away because we've got a think we're at two thirty right now.
28:40
[SPEAKER_01]: We've got states that have agreed that their electors will vote for whoever wins the national popular vote.
28:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
28:50
[SPEAKER_01]: that's the workaround.
28:52
[SPEAKER_01]: It's simple.
28:53
[SPEAKER_01]: It's easy.
28:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Does it require ratification?
28:56
[SPEAKER_01]: That is a simple workaround.
28:58
[SPEAKER_01]: We need to get that through.
28:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
29:00
[SPEAKER_01]: We need to get the voting rights act through.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We need to age limit the Supreme Court at 72.
29:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I live in Ohio.
29:09
[SPEAKER_01]: If you are a municipal court judge or a common
29:20
[SPEAKER_01]: So hello.
29:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
29:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Why don't we do that at the federal level.
29:24
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just simple things like that, but they have to be willing to do it.
29:28
[SPEAKER_01]: And the number one thing they have to be willing to do is repeal and make a law about citizens united.
29:37
[SPEAKER_01]: The problem is the Democrats like to say, oh, I said, they benefit from it too.
29:44
[SPEAKER_01]: But if you do away with, you can only contribute if you have two lungs and a heart in your your breathing human being, but then if you said you had to have two lungs and a heart you do away with republicans so.
30:00
[SPEAKER_01]: You have to be a human being to contribute and if you contribute to a pack, there is a limit and you have to be unmasked.
30:09
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't hide behind an LLC or anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you hit a QR code, you know exactly who has contributed and how much money to that pack.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a simple fix.
30:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Now I want to just kind of go back and it's the national popular vote interstate compact, which was the stupid fucking name.
30:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Isn't it how much more awkward can you be?
30:33
[SPEAKER_01]: How about let's fuck the intellectual college act and we all be happy and understand it.
30:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
30:41
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's an agreement among states to award all of their electoral college votes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: to the presidential candidate who wins the overall national popular vote.
30:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to, I know that it was just introduced or passed in past Virginia.
30:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Virginia was the last one, yes.
30:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, do you know if Spamberger signed that in?
31:01
[SPEAKER_00]: She did.
31:02
[SPEAKER_00]: OK, good.
31:03
[SPEAKER_00]: So, do you know how many electoral votes are left?
31:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I know you said three states, but how many electoral votes do you mean?
31:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we've need 40 to hit the 270.
31:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're right at 230.
31:15
[SPEAKER_01]: you'll have.
31:16
[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, really have to be in the Google machine.
31:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
31:19
[SPEAKER_00]: And and basically what that means for everybody out there is there are you know, I mean, it's more likely going to happen in a blue state than in a red state, but still there are yeah, there are red states that might, I think there already might be some red states have an orange a might, I think the word you might that would be a make how many do you know how many electoral electoral votes they have, but Jordan Arizona to that might.
31:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and Arizona would be great.
31:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and so I mean, it's really, it's not that, it's not that far off.
31:51
[SPEAKER_00]: And it would basically just, and like you said, we wouldn't have to get red of the electoral college.
31:58
[SPEAKER_00]: This would basically just do it.
32:00
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
32:01
[SPEAKER_00]: My boyfriend has talked about this and he's like, I don't want the Republicans to hear about it because they're gonna fight.
32:06
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, we just Democrats need to quietly do this.
32:10
[SPEAKER_01]: And what this thing is is they can't ever meet the number that we've already got.
32:15
[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.
32:16
[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.
32:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they're going to try and sue.
32:18
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they're going to put this, they're going to do everything they can to stall and and that's fine.
32:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, they're going to do that.
32:24
[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, I think if we're just smart and we get this done, we could get this done in the next two years.
32:29
[SPEAKER_00]: We could have this done before 2028 and it would change substantially.
32:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
32:32
[SPEAKER_01]: But we got to get on it and so many people because of the stupid name they came up with.
32:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what it is, but if you start just like you did, you start explain, oh, yeah, I've heard of that.
32:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, we need to get, we need to get going on this.
32:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
32:46
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it's just a simple work around whoever wins the national popularity gets our electors and deal.
32:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Georgia has 16 and Arizona has 11.
32:59
[SPEAKER_00]: So we would still have a little bit way to go.
33:01
[SPEAKER_00]: And it really would just depend on the state.
33:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Because we've got it.
33:03
[SPEAKER_00]: We've just got to get the electoral votes as opposed to X amount of states.
33:08
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're almost there.
33:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Just need 270.
33:11
[SPEAKER_00]: We just ask 270.
33:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my goodness.
33:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I do feel I gave you more hope.
33:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I do feel hopeful.
33:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I feel like some days I go back and forth.
33:22
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we all look at the news every day.
33:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I change you get on your show, push, put, I do push that get you to stay talk to who you have to.
33:30
[SPEAKER_01]: This, this is a simple, easy fix because we have elected more presidents.
33:37
[SPEAKER_01]: since 20 since 2000 by the electoral college rather than the popular vote than we have in the history of this country this is where the electoral college backfired and just think about it we would have had gore we would have had Hillary Clinton
33:54
[SPEAKER_00]: um it would have just been very different.
33:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to throw this in there before I go because my mom had another, I don't know if she's going to create a move on petition about this or not but um all of these talks about these data centers and how they're stealing all of our you know on the grids they're stealing all of our electricity and all of that.
34:12
[SPEAKER_00]: She was saying that the way democratic leaders should
34:17
[SPEAKER_00]: right legislation moving forward with these data centers are that sure we can have them but in order to have them, they should be connected only to a solar farm so they're not drawing off the grid.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's a really good idea.
34:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think the point here and that idea she has, I'm sure it's not as simple as that, but still it could be.
34:37
[SPEAKER_00]: The idea is there are work
34:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, we have solar farms everywhere here in Ohio.
34:47
[SPEAKER_01]: We have the second largest number of data centers.
34:52
[SPEAKER_01]: They put up all these solar farms for the data centers and it has skyrocketed our electrical costs for the average person because we are paying for the solar farm modifications.
35:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I see, okay.
35:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Electric, yeah, it.
35:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Now here's the answer.
35:08
[SPEAKER_01]: You wanna know what the answer is?
35:09
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's off of an old TV show that they said was too far-fetched.
35:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Call persons of interest.
35:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Great chef, you go back and watch it because we're living it now.
35:18
[SPEAKER_01]: the answer was when the AI needed to be preserved is they shot it up to a satellite.
35:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
35:26
[SPEAKER_01]: What does Elon Musk have a shit ton of?
35:29
[SPEAKER_01]: You put it in the satellite, you have all the solar that you need to power it and it's cold up there.
35:35
[SPEAKER_01]: So I've got the cooling you need, because the biggest problem to me is what it's doing to our water, here in Ohio, we are blessed to have high water table and that's why they're here.
35:48
[SPEAKER_01]: They're draining it.
35:48
[SPEAKER_01]: But the bigger thing is, is the Palantir either owns most of them or is a significant
35:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Peter Teele is Palantir.
36:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And remember, the Palantir is from the Lord of the Rings.
36:04
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the globe that was all seeing.
36:07
[SPEAKER_01]: So Peter Teele owns Palantir here in Ohio, the two biggest investors in Palantir are none other than Vivek Ramaswami, who is one of her governor and who worked
36:27
[SPEAKER_01]: So it is it is all disgustingly intertwined and we're fighting these data centers.
36:32
[SPEAKER_01]: They're in a bombination and we have them coming up everywhere and they're coming up on our beautiful farmland and they're sitting right on top of our aquifers and our farmers are not going to have the water that they need.
36:45
[SPEAKER_01]: But how they build all these solar in these are massive solar farms.
36:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
36:50
[SPEAKER_01]: It is.
36:51
[SPEAKER_01]: We're paying for it on our electric bills.
36:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Our electric bills have gone up 20% and our Corrupt legislature So, oh, well, we're going to let it stand.
37:01
[SPEAKER_01]: You have no fight on it.
37:03
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, they're getting their palm's grease.
37:05
[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.
37:06
[SPEAKER_01]: You have no way to fight it.
37:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, there's a solution for everything.
37:11
[SPEAKER_00]: And memo has all of them.
37:14
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's just, I'm just kidding.
37:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Damn it.
37:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Just listen to mammal.
37:20
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, everybody just listen to mammal.
37:21
[SPEAKER_00]: She knows what she's talking about.
37:23
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't have to be that difficult.
37:25
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it doesn't.
37:26
[SPEAKER_00]: And we do make things more difficult than they have to be.
37:28
[SPEAKER_00]: We do.
37:29
[SPEAKER_00]: We do.
37:30
[SPEAKER_00]: But, all right, I think let's end this on the idea that I just really appreciate.
37:35
[SPEAKER_00]: You're I don't want to just call it enthusiasm because I don't think it's just coming from hope and all that I mean it's it is enthusiasm but I think you're you're basing this on fact you're basing this on what you know so I'm happy to hear what you have to say about the midterms I know you and I will be talking before the midterms so who knows what's going to happen between now and then but I always love having you on it's always so much fun and you're so funny and just of course before I let you go tell everybody where to find you
38:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I can be found on Facebook and YouTube and TikTok with the at sign mammals porch in the letter in politics.
38:21
[SPEAKER_01]: So those are all the same.
38:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm also now on sub-stack and blue sky and on pod bean.
38:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Awesome.
38:28
[SPEAKER_01]: So you have, do you have a podcast now?
38:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah.
38:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Did mean too, I'd accidentally fell into that.
38:36
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not kind of a set thing.
38:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I just rehash and publish everything I'm doing, but I'm live Sunday mornings at 10 a.m. And then I have Taco Tuesday night at 8 p.m. And then I have Connipion Thursday at 930 in the morning where I just pick one topic and just go absolutely berserk.
38:57
[SPEAKER_01]: So you're catching me on the back end of that.
39:00
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I do other things pop up here and there, and then I put it on sub-stack tube.
39:07
[SPEAKER_01]: All those refined people that write those really fancy things.
39:10
[SPEAKER_01]: It's actually trying to be educated and dignified.
39:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I've totally thrown that all over that.
39:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I have really shit in there, and they're like, oh, my God.
39:20
[SPEAKER_01]: But you're real, and that's what we love.
39:22
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to get that corn cop out of there, but, you know.
39:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, well, ma'am, thank you so much for coming on my shelf and you are well All right, we will talk again.
39:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Take care.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bye bye