Latest / Archons Corner / Keyforge Goes to Texas or Overseas Nationals
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- 0:00Oh my ex is living taxi. It taxes is a place I'm doing in
- 0:11love too, but my ex is living taxi. Hello urkey Forge gamer is.
- 0:21This is Christian Peterson from Ghost Galaxy, and you're listening to our Kohn's
- 0:24Corner. Oh, what's going on? Everybody? I am the one,
- 0:26the only, the w oh okay. I joined here by the normal cast
- 0:30of misfits. We got big z Hey. Hey, we have the Elf
- 0:36from the South, soily Elf. Oh nadies, we have our Kohn's Corners,
- 0:40Resident pH d, Doctor Sheep, Squeaky Sheep left, Squeaky Sheep is
- 0:46Squeaky Sheep your alternate account? Maybe? Is that your like dinner account when
- 0:50you're like testing decks that you don't want anybody to know about. That's Oh,
- 0:55that's losers ship. Speaking of losers, we got the Choke Show drazz
- 1:00Cary. Hey, thanks, Waky, no problems to ye, it's been
- 1:06it's been a few days. Uh. And we have the ewak yst of
- 1:08ewak ewak Jr. Hello, key Forge community. Is so good to be
- 1:15here, so good to hear your amazing silent voices. Crowd, I miss
- 1:19you, dearly family silent. We can make up for that. There's enough.
- 1:25There's enough talking from all of you. But we have big news everybody.
- 1:32There's still chance for Sheep to get a world invite yet. The nationals
- 1:37championship list was just released. You she flying around the world? Ye,
- 1:44coming in Canada. Sheep can go to uh, Greece, Sheep, I'm
- 1:51doing that one. He can go clay against the five people in Chile France,
- 1:59isn't it Yeah? Finish Yeah, France finished none the ninth. How
- 2:02did we get no information on that? I need to know, like who
- 2:06got invites? Like that? It is on our kanokana they have the top
- 2:13four results. Maybe you should have watched that awesome stream they have oky,
- 2:19No, there was no stream. Let's see, there's a Danish national championship.
- 2:29There is a Gerban one. You can go to the UK for the
- 2:34English National championship. Oh, there's a lot. There's the Dutch National Championship,
- 2:42the Swedish A lot of these are at the end of the month.
- 2:44The Swedish National Championship, the Polish National Championship, the Chilean National Championship,
- 2:52the one where Sheep is going to upset jam at the Canadian National Championship.
- 2:57Nice. Oh, God, there were only sixteen people in the French National
- 3:01Championship. Well, I mean it almost seems like the French one, like
- 3:07nobody heard about it. Exactly sixteen players in both events. It's almost like
- 3:12they're the same players because they got the play in both. Almost like awesome.
- 3:20And I think the last one, did I say Brazil Brazilian National Championship,
- 3:25You haven't, but I haven't. Well, there's gonna be one in
- 3:28Brazil too, if you want to go to h to Brazil. No Australian
- 3:34National Championship though, not enough players. Just just Pirate spread out spread,
- 3:43I mean, like all Australians living like three cities. Yeah, but those
- 3:46cities are very far apart. I mean, an Australian National Championship would just
- 3:52be declaring Pirates champions. I have to believe. I have to believe it,
- 4:00heart of hearts, it's not just Pirate. We've got Ave. He's
- 4:03down there, right yeah, Phil, Phil might come back just there you
- 4:08go. That's like three yeah, So I mean somebody's guaranteed the world's invite.
- 4:15Fire still used to play down there. Maybe maybe that's like I don't
- 4:17know one thing I do want to talk about that I found kind of funny
- 4:24is the Well, this is actually just jam and I'm just gonna poke fun
- 4:29of him because he just wanted to make sure that the that a Canadian won
- 4:32the Canadian national Championship, which if you if I did, is dan Canadian.
- 4:41No oh, master's deck, sir, I played. I was an
- 4:48honorary member of the Canadian national team for the Archons corner right, how'd that
- 4:58go for you? Sheep? A firm second place? I think it did
- 5:04say that on the play bat. Yeah, it certainly does. I will
- 5:09bring I will bring that play Matt to Canada. Oh, I suppose it
- 5:16was Canada. That's basic. Yep, I forgot about it. I was
- 5:21Canada versus USA, so it didn't really matter. But well, I'm gonna
- 5:27go ahead and back us up to these national championships. One. I actually
- 5:30in our lost cast from last week. I had asked for this information,
- 5:35and I want to say thank you. I think the pictures honestly look amazing.
- 5:40As a little bum that's you know, these are all stock footages.
- 5:44Oh, hands down, but it's in one central spot. We can kids
- 5:49in class. Hands down. Yeah, I can go ahead and be real
- 5:56you will for using stock footage from like Adobe Photoshop. They put it together
- 6:04so we can see who the organizer is. We can see the tournament size,
- 6:08you can see when the dates. I know, I would hope you'll
- 6:11be able to put it together. Didn't they have to fill out a request
- 6:14form or what would you like, a permission slip or something like that mail
- 6:18Jeremy had to spend Jeremy, it will spend like five or six minutes collecting
- 6:24all of these images on. Some of this stuff is now being done by
- 6:28Josh. But have they spent more time getting different pictures? Would that have
- 6:35provided us anything? Yeah? Nothing at all. Like the fact they put
- 6:43pictures on here already says to me they wasted time, like we didn't even
- 6:46need these pictures. Okay, well I disagree. I think that it pops.
- 6:50I think it's nice to see the international representation. I will tell you
- 6:57that there were some that surprised me. I was surprised to see the Chilean
- 7:00national championship, which is super cool. Did you say the Polish national championship?
- 7:05And I just missed that one ship? Okay, Greek is still unannounced,
- 7:11so we don't even have the information. But again I asked and I
- 7:14appreciate that it was put together in one spots, and I think that's important.
- 7:18I know that some individuals were concerned. Okay, you know there's limited
- 7:24spots to be able to get to worlds. There is a prize pool of
- 7:27fifteen hundred dollars for airfare and hotel for it. Specifically says, yeah,
- 7:33it travels Oucher, Well, it's it's still got to pull sixteen people.
- 7:39Yeah, but you just you like just walk outside and be like, hey,
- 7:43you, I'll gave you twenty bucks to play this. M I don't
- 7:48think the collusion was there. I do think that we can pull sixteen people.
- 7:54Okay, this is this is a very interesting cast. Already. I'm
- 7:58gonna say, yeah, wait, sheep, sheep, you she read the
- 8:01bus and then just drive around Wisconsin picking up folks and wearing you know,
- 8:09US flag t shirts and sweat shirts and just drive them all to Canada with
- 8:13KeyForge decks. Just bring like sixty people. Well they have they have enough
- 8:18Canadians plane. We don't have to do that. But if we had gotten
- 8:22our six stop cruise, we would have certainly made sure we had sixteen players
- 8:28go to that mm hmm. Some of them might have been you know,
- 8:33people that work out the ball. Might it might have been our wives going
- 8:37on and the cruise with us. Just sit and concede for two games,
- 8:39honey, you'll be fine. Yeah, And then she would freaking play and
- 8:45beat me, and I would go if I could convince my life to go
- 8:48that might she would beat me physically and then with the deck against your dad,
- 8:56Are you are you can do a Jar's wife did to me back when
- 9:00Koda was around. I give them a deck and then she beats me with
- 9:03it. I mean, even if you beat here in the game right like,
- 9:05you're not winning well, I mean, I guess it depends on the
- 9:09level of care. Is this really the yes top deck? It was a
- 9:15DT deck that was second place second it was a third team player event.
- 9:24Man, you can't. I don't give a shit. Thank you for your
- 9:30donation. Okay, so what since we have bounced to there one? I
- 9:33do appreciate Arkon or Canada being able to keep tally of important information like this.
- 9:39I had not seen basically top four from either Alliance or Arkon for the
- 9:45France National Championship. I know that coverage should spend more time being focused on
- 9:50key Forge I'm sorry. At the beginning of the year is is tricky,
- 9:54but I will say that going ahead and looking at the top four, for
- 9:58ark On actually talk as a well own individual who's here. Vice Fats was
- 10:03someone who I had not seen, so that's interesting. Pettibot and Goude are
- 10:05both there in the top four. Unfortunately they don't make they don't have the
- 10:11they don't have money the stipend to be able to get over for the travel
- 10:13voucher. On the Lions side you can see Jelapanos. Apologies if I'm saying
- 10:20that wrong. I've not actually seen that individual. Tonio I've I've seen or
- 10:24heard before. Laxie I've seen before, Pettibots I've seen before. So again,
- 10:31some individuals who are known, but it made Yeah, he made two
- 10:37both events. Look, I feel you, Bro, I've been there,
- 10:43and I also look at Goude here and I'm pretty sure this is a nice
- 10:46tie deck with the squiggly symbols. So no good, it's really good.
- 10:52Yeah. So if you look at the archon Dak coming from Mashitaka, it
- 10:56is a known mm dak. It's got da, it's got it's got pips,
- 11:03it's God's Mutants, not a ton of Mens five. But again as
- 11:09a pretty solid player, that's there. Now, go ahead, ze,
- 11:11what did you see coming in in second with nest Star. It is a
- 11:16dark Titans deck. There you go. It looks like a dark tidy stick,
- 11:22which means it's not great. I mean it's gonn hard. Look,
- 11:26it's gotta Mexico cards plus does double Eddie. It's got one card that manipulates
- 11:33the tide. So which is Amber vac first dress cost to jump into defend
- 11:39dark tidings here? No, no, no, no, I'm not defending
- 11:41Uh it's got action. What's that? I said? You have to protect
- 11:46your reputation after Philly, So I mean year old, I have no reputation?
- 11:52Yeah, what did without knowing the Dakoton player? What does jump out
- 11:58is the trip brain drain that's there, over and nonfathomball that seemed to immediately
- 12:03pop from unfath bounce from bubbles. Wasn't seeing a ton that was there?
- 12:11For logos? You have double ed I Howling Pitt Macabooy hydro catalogist a little
- 12:16bit there forgive or forgets the logos again, we'll push out cards. I
- 12:20don't know what more it's doing. It's got the double submersive principle, but
- 12:24only one manipulates time. Don't forget about the matter maker. Yeah you have.
- 12:31You haven't a united action here in Starlin's gack together Triscoff. But it's
- 12:39it's a low board presence. It's efficiency of seventeen. I don't know,
- 12:45I mean jump off the page right, it's not got a cup of water.
- 12:50I had to look at what that card was. I forgot each eyeboard
- 12:54creature and robot creature. Maybe that made the difference. That is how it
- 12:58made Jay second place. I mean what what bounced out, What jumped out
- 13:05to me was the seventeen printed amber and so you're pushing the macabooye hydrocalager.
- 13:11You can get a little bit coming from that too, and then you have
- 13:13some amber increase, key key increase with that. What I actually standing out
- 13:18was the triple brain drain going on. Yes, totally dismant you can totally
- 13:22dismantle your opponents game plan at key points. Well, in picture, woe
- 13:28hasn't whoa just made it to the UK with the last two days, so
- 13:33this would have been pre woe people maybe I mean a lot of people.
- 13:41While what we've played key Forge consistently throughout the pandemic. Not everyone has.
- 13:45There's been a lot of people who've left. And frankly, new cards do
- 13:48cause some issues. So if you're not super familiar, yeah maybe from low
- 13:54and yeah d to Europe and win every national championship, That's what I'm saying.
- 14:00She then have a big then have a big party bus. Most of
- 14:07these voices are on ports right, like yeah, alrighty did I lose everyone?
- 14:20Are we all here? No? No, we we just we just
- 14:22quiet. At the same time, like meteously, we're trying to figure out
- 14:28what kind of Viking gear we need to go conquering. Now, I will
- 14:31say on the Lions side, that dirty, dirty dirty word was a World's
- 14:37Collide. So there you go, Wookie. I know you have been looking
- 14:39at worlds Glide. But triple Zoom with key to Diss Heartbringer you got triple
- 14:43Edi Neutron Shark double I G and triple Stealth Mode Veil, double Kirby sixteen
- 14:52printed Amber twenty three speed. You got you got some work going on here.
- 14:56The Lion's decks look really really a point. I think overall, their
- 15:01Alliance fielded decks were way better, way, way better than their arc on
- 15:07the field of decks. That's interesting. Maybe they've just spend more time in
- 15:11Alliance over in France, or maybe they just literally took all their best decks
- 15:16and told they combined both. They're playing indifferent. Yeah, they can play
- 15:20in both, so that doesn't make sense either. So I'm not sure what
- 15:22the hell is going on there. All right, well, let's get into
- 15:28the Miniature Market sale. Who wants to uh piss on this fire this on
- 15:35it? It was fantastic, you know exactly what I'm saying. It was
- 15:41like Christmas into a lot or whatever September. So for the lists, I
- 15:48know a lot of you know what's happened, but can you guys explain to
- 15:50those who may not who might be listening. Miniature Markets is, Well,
- 15:56Miniature Market is they knew it was my birthday and then then the next thing
- 16:00happened. So Miniature Miniature Market is a game store that also has a pretty
- 16:07solid online presence. They're based out of Saint Louis if I'm correct, I
- 16:12have no idea, but they do actually have a a brick and mortar Star
- 16:18Well, it's they're a larger a larger store and all of a sudden they
- 16:22put up a sale. And what was the sale? Boys? Was it
- 16:27eighty dollars for a Yeah, eighty for et displaying. So that is way
- 16:33cheaper you can get whoa whoa whoa now, way cheaper you can get it
- 16:41anywhere. Ells right, these are new right folks in folks overseas may not
- 16:48have even had the opportunity to buy it at full price yet. And uh
- 16:52oh definitely throwing them up for eighty USDA box And and you had to act
- 17:02fast. Yeah, I did fast. So I did not get it.
- 17:08I did not get any So you're welcome Europe. Very sad, very sad
- 17:14that I did not get any rule. These key forage rules live in the
- 17:18US. I never lose. So I will say, in my opinion,
- 17:23this is not a gig issue. This is coming from Asthma Day who should
- 17:27be Oh, this is a gig? Is it? Because this is where
- 17:30I want to be able to make sure we're super clear. Why do you
- 17:33think this is? This is a gig issue in the aspect of they are
- 17:42doing absolutely nothing two support game stores or price or value of their product.
- 17:53I agree with not supporting game stores, but I don't see the discounts on
- 17:59this as being on them update one the character a day. Oh man,
- 18:11you know that you're in the audience. I, as arbitrator, am giving
- 18:15you full right. It is okay to have an open hand slap as you
- 18:19see these gentlemen this weekend perfectly. Wait are you saying to slap Josh?
- 18:26I don't think you get to give that permission. You don't just to you
- 18:32said over a month ago. Next week you'll see it. I saw it.
- 18:38It got taken down real quick though it was. It was like up
- 18:44and then gone. You guys are off what you guys have drove in another
- 18:47direction. So as a game company, you can put some game companies do
- 18:55enforce minimum advertise prices and minimum sale prices. Does GG do that or does
- 19:02Asthma Da do that? Well, it's it's not a function of both.
- 19:07I think I'm you know what, I'm not one hundred percent sure. I
- 19:11know Asthma Day does it with their products. Like if you get asthmadd products,
- 19:14you can't even list that stuff on Amazon anymore like you used to,
- 19:18like they had them, Like you're not allowed to sell it under this price
- 19:23under a penalty of death or whatever. Well, penalty of losing your status
- 19:29agreement with us. So like Asthma Day clearly can enforce that stuff if they
- 19:33want, and Gig can probably ask for it if they want, which they
- 19:38probably haven't. Right, But what's actually going on here is the problem is
- 19:44there isn't that much product actually moving, which isn't great, right, Like
- 19:48based on the number of death being scan this isn't going crazy, you know.
- 19:53Like I finally sold a few boxes to some people the day before the
- 19:57sale, so yeah, I felt, yeah, thank you. Here you're
- 20:03one hundred and twenty five dollars, which I gotta get for selling those two
- 20:07cheap. And then the next day you can get them for eighty bucks.
- 20:11Like that's ridiculous. It's not for long. But that's the problem is that
- 20:17we have too small of a community. It is a very eclectic group already,
- 20:22and when it pops open that we have the costs for eighty bucks,
- 20:26we are not building up our local community. It's sitting with well, this
- 20:32is where groups that people are going to go. It's similar to the dollars
- 20:36sale for m Yeah, it's mostly fine because almost all of this product went
- 20:41to people who already buy two buch product anyways, But there are certainly a
- 20:44few people who bought their two or three buxes here and now are not going
- 20:47to buy any more product from their local who like is having a hard time
- 20:52still getting it sort of. I guess I don't actually know. We haven't
- 20:56had to replace our order yet to be told, yes or no, so
- 21:00I don't know what the stock levels look like. But this is just like
- 21:03again, you know, how are you ever gonna have key Fords were thirteen
- 21:07dollars when you can constantly get it like super cut right, But that's the
- 21:11only time that like this is the first and longly time we've seated that cut
- 21:15rate for a while, it happened thus far. Yeah, that's what we
- 21:22said the first time we got boxes for like sixty or seventy bucks of the
- 21:26old sets, and then they were fifty, and that they were forty,
- 21:29and that they were twenty. I still think that's just actually like the Minister
- 21:33market messing up. I think when they did a pricing model, they did
- 21:37an error and how they coded it because you saw one price on another like
- 21:41on one screen, and then it discounted it further on and on the second
- 21:45screen. And I don't think that was supposed to have it. Yeah,
- 21:48because that discount also showed up in a shipping discount, so it was pretty
- 21:53weird. I don't I agree. I don't know if they intended, although
- 21:56they are honoring so that's really nice. Yeah, yeah, they did honor
- 22:00because I've got it and I paid what I paid, so that's I think
- 22:03they were intending to sell it for one hundred dollars, dis downing it twenty
- 22:07percent from there, probably what they had in their system that like one twenty
- 22:11five or something which would make sense, like that's what it would have been
- 22:15after twenty percent, and they then double dipped that percentage again in their portal
- 22:21because they messed up how they coded it. So if you got it,
- 22:26you've got a great deal, like not target level deal back in the deal.
- 22:29Actually it was actually right around that kind of discount level. The target
- 22:33discount was pretty good. So yeah, Anyways, there was when I saw
- 22:38the sale, which I think was pretty early. It really first got leaked
- 22:44on Reddit that I saw that. That was the first place I saw about
- 22:47it was on a Reddit post, and then it was I don't know,
- 22:48half an hour forty five minutes after that, it made it over to all
- 22:52the discords, and there was one hundred and twenty five boxes when I looked
- 22:56at first they went first. Uh yeah, they went pretty fast. So
- 23:03uh, Z's already got his giant pile. My measly six boxes. I
- 23:07got six boxes has not even shipped yet, so I think they went from
- 23:14bigger smaller. Yeah, you definitely purchase prior to me. Yeah, they
- 23:22were like, we only have to unwrap this palette. We can just send
- 23:26it to Z's house. So let's do that back there. They're moving their
- 23:32warehouse just to your basement. That seems fair. I would store all the
- 23:38g If you're having problems finding boxes, hit up Z. He'll sell you
- 23:41boxes at one hundred and thirty dollars. Maybe we'll see that that sounds cheap.
- 23:49Yeah, but this does prove a problem for the at least the local
- 23:55gaming scene, because there are plenty of local game stores out there that are
- 23:59having trouble moving this product. Maybe. I'm sure at this point in time,
- 24:04how many did you even look at how many games Universe has by us?
- 24:08They have six decks left in the one open box. Yeah, it's
- 24:12one open They started with three boxes, they're down to six, which will
- 24:17disappear probably the next time we show up. And then my question is is
- 24:19will they order more because they have six on opened or on touched two players
- 24:23starters, Well those will remain probably untouched, would be my assaut How many
- 24:30decks coming at two players starter? Is it two or just two learning decks
- 24:34and two sealed decks? Yeah? Well you get I want to say the
- 24:37sealed decks is what everyone's looking for, because I mean the two decks,
- 24:41what is it are they're half decks right? Yeah, they're pre in a
- 24:48certain order. Ye. So with learning instructions, yes, well the problem
- 24:52is most of us there already know how to play, so they need so
- 24:56So this is where the real question comes in in the Wookie is that what
- 25:02is needed? They're amazing tools, but what are we doing to really reach
- 25:06anybody who's new there? Was? Well? This this is a universal wee.
- 25:12So that's that's us at the local game store. Well, this is
- 25:18what I'm trying to explain, so that the idea is first and foremost for
- 25:22gg with marketing and their connections, Second with the stores do they even know
- 25:26it? And three with the player base. What are all three of us
- 25:30universally doing in order to be able to help, and part of this conversation
- 25:33actually started. I don't know who else was there, Duncan. Duncan had
- 25:40talked about his local scene, and this is why it came up. That's
- 25:44right now. They were looking at going ahead and trying to re change.
- 25:48They had some individuals who were pretty hardcore, people who had streamed, people
- 25:52who were content producers. But when the pandemic happened, when the algorithm is
- 26:00lost, some of those individuals just simply moved on to other games and they
- 26:03haven't come back, and they're not really interested in coming back because it's a
- 26:10great game, but there's nothing that we're really doing to lure now. This
- 26:14was something that was said to me, and I apologized Duncan from saying it
- 26:17wrong. But I, personally, JR. E. Walk enjoy the Vault
- 26:22Tour. I think the camaraderie, the group, the fun that's happening there
- 26:26is amazing. But the Vault Tour is really set up for our high end
- 26:30players right now. There is very very very little for the stores and for
- 26:37anyone who's new coming in. And this is the conundrum that we find ourselves
- 26:41in. We've talked about it, but if it's products. Go ahead,
- 26:47I'm gonna lay this out there for you. Okay, what is the social
- 26:52media presence of KeyForge? Next day scored, Facebook, Redding? Well,
- 26:59you're zero. It's not on Twitter, It's not it's not well x whatever
- 27:04you want to call it. Nobody cares about Twitter. Most people care about
- 27:08Twitter. Twitter is most people do not care about Twitter. We don't get
- 27:12me wrong, right, Like, they're active on the discords, but they're
- 27:15not doing a community outreach on other platforms potentially. Well, and I'm going
- 27:18to get into that. They do nothing for content producers, absolutely nothing.
- 27:25They gave us one sneak preview card and pretty much if you asked for it,
- 27:30you got it. You didn't even really have to be a content producer.
- 27:33The content being produced for KeyForge is extraordinarily limited. Ninety nine I would
- 27:41tell you ninety five percent of all KeyForge content is TCO. It's all Twitch
- 27:49streams on TCO. It's all she's just playing on TCO while we're recording.
- 27:56Well, I mean, nobody's starting a game for me to join, right,
- 28:00So there's plenty. There's just Amber Medias does a fantastic job with his
- 28:07videos. I like Amber Media's videos. I think they're really engaging and they're
- 28:11really smart. I have ideas, but I don't have the time to produce
- 28:15them. It's just I don't have it. But there's no there's no key
- 28:19Forge news channels. There's there's a hand I mean, how many podcasts do
- 28:23we have right now? There's there's kPr for a news channel. Sure this
- 28:29is bad Penny Press. Yeah. So when you're talking news, that's essentially
- 28:34it's key Forge with friends. It's what we've turned into versus competitive key Forge
- 28:37podcast right, and we're talking about what is the local news? Okay?
- 28:42Right? But this isn't this. I mean he's just going on that there's
- 28:47nobody there's Because there's only three thousand players, there isn't much content, but
- 28:53this is content. Content drives people wanting to play. Lorcana wasn't even released,
- 29:02but there was just an abundance and oversaturation of content if you wanted Lorkana.
- 29:08It's not even out yet, but guess what, there's already content being
- 29:12produced for it, like and it's engaging content, but that hasent on a
- 29:19different scale than what it is. You're comparing this to. You're comparing this
- 29:25to Magic Games with quantities of players that like all there, you know,
- 29:33like there's that many players just in France for these other games as there is
- 29:37total for key Forge, right, Like that's you're you're on just such a
- 29:41different scale of player base. You're you're not going to have the same I'm
- 29:47not all of stuff. I'm not going to tell you you're wrong because you're
- 29:51not going to have the same level of stuff. But at the same point,
- 29:53not all of our tours are streamed. Gen Con Nationals not streamed.
- 30:02Is Dallas going to be streamed? I don't know. No, so Dallas
- 30:08okay, But but again another another saying that may or may not be streamed.
- 30:14Nobody knows, right, you don't know where to tune in. You
- 30:17don't know where you're gonna go. You don't have a dedicated team. And
- 30:19even if it's even if it's TTR, fine, you know where to go
- 30:23to get the stream. But there is no presence for GG to be like,
- 30:26Okay, this needs to go to our channel, even if they're the
- 30:30personalities, GG needs to be the ones that it goes to their channel.
- 30:33This is our stream and it needs to be you know, TTR is a
- 30:37fantastic job, like they are great streamers. They do it well, so
- 30:42it just it has to be of high quality. Right, nobody's gonna watch,
- 30:47you know, a thirty two bit TCO game, and if they do,
- 30:51it isn't going to be for long. You can just go look at
- 30:53the numbers and just see that even with the two thousand people in the community,
- 30:57it's seven views. That's not pushing the needle anywhere. So there it.
- 31:03Even if they stream it, it doesn't really matter because there is no
- 31:10real way going on that gets this content in front of anybody. Like it
- 31:15doesn't They don't need more key Forge content for key Forge players like you were
- 31:18talking about earlier. It's much more on the thing where if this were me,
- 31:22they're not. They aren't. They aren't paying the general community. Content
- 31:29creators that have large populations of people that aren't key Forge players already, like
- 31:34those are the people who have to know, like, there's no point in
- 31:37making more content for the people who are already are already here. We have
- 31:41to get the content in front of people, but more, but more videos
- 31:45and more flooding of the market will get that into the algorithm and give it
- 31:48get it there if people watch them. I think the numbers that you are
- 31:53going to ever creating this is going to put it up there. But I
- 31:56don't understand that stuff well enough to know well. I mean the hopeful,
- 32:00the hope is you bleed someon to the magic community and somebody from Magic goes,
- 32:06oh, what is this now? If it were Meda, I understand
- 32:10it, But I mean, you're you're not looking to get a majority of
- 32:15Magic players. You're looking to get a few few from Magic, a few
- 32:17from lore Kana, a few from over here, from over here, get
- 32:21them elsewhere. Well, I mean, then the game will stay a stagnant.
- 32:25I think they missed a golden a golden opportunity to get the professor.
- 32:32He lives in Seattle, literally lives in Seattle. He has done key Forage
- 32:37videos before, he has the largest magic channel on the Internet. You could
- 32:45have paid him some coin and he probably would have showed up, and he
- 32:47probably would have played. He probably would have made a video for it.
- 32:53And you're now you just get a bunch of exposure from people, I mean
- 32:59magic in the state it is in because you have you have high ranking people,
- 33:02you have post Malone playing this game. You've got I don't even remember
- 33:06the dude, he's an older tight end from the forty nine ers plays this
- 33:12game. You're getting big stars who play their game. Ewok was the tight
- 33:17end, Yeah, the older tight end. Yeah, but excuse me.
- 33:22You're getting people that have names derived with them and bringing them in and that
- 33:29drives people to be like, oh, post Malone plays this game. I
- 33:32want to play this game, even if it's somebody. Even if it's somebody
- 33:37like the Professor. Oh, the Professor enjoys this game. I will check
- 33:40this game out. I mean, let's be honest. He's done Wonders for
- 33:45Flesh and Blood, He's done Wonders for a lot of other card games.
- 33:51I'm just saying, like, and maybe that's the that's the marketing piece,
- 33:54right, that just is it is what it is, like, the marketing
- 33:59has to be better. You have to get this into the phase of a
- 34:02lot of gamers and shoot your shot. It's got to be a bird shot.
- 34:07It can't it can't just be targeted towards people who are already playing a
- 34:10game. Because I brought this up many moons ago. There's going to be
- 34:13a diminishing turn and people are going to leave. And if you're not filling
- 34:19two shoes with one. You know, if you're not bringing two people in,
- 34:21for everyone who leaves, the game's just going to go nowhere and eventually
- 34:23it'll be nothing. My soapbox moment. Thank you for listening, Welcome,
- 34:30Thank you for enjoying my ted talk. I love this community, but I
- 34:36think you're already heading down that path. And while you're talking, we don't
- 34:39have money coming in. Now. There's a big discussion about what happened with
- 34:45the money from Game Found. I'm gonna tell you the second Game Found coming
- 34:49out is really already put people on edge, let alone the game stores who
- 34:52have not bought back in. I think that while there needs to be marketing,
- 34:58I think we we Gg community as a whole has to be able to
- 35:04re establish and connect with individuals. But the local game I think that they're
- 35:12had like one. I think that we have to have sealed events. That's
- 35:15where this game really thrives. Come learn, here's how to play, here's
- 35:19this your starter, and then let's go ahead and enjoy the game for what
- 35:23it is. The complexity from woe from DT it makes it difficult to come
- 35:30in, but we got to do something, and if we're losing individuals because
- 35:37the problem is if you're going to players, it's over. It's been on
- 35:40the players for the longest time, and it's it's not just for them to
- 35:45take the ball and run to it. It's not just a gig and it's
- 35:49not just a player. It is a combined effort that will be needed in
- 35:52order to be successful in my opinion, Like, and I'll tell you the
- 35:57biggest problem with this game is there is zero return. Well I shouldn't say
- 36:01THEO there is next to zero return if I go buy a deck. I
- 36:07honestly feel like if I buy one, it's either going to be if it's
- 36:10just the middle of the road junk. What's it worth? What what we've
- 36:16you? You are on a thing that we've done on this cast, Like
- 36:20yeah, no seven times yeah, I'm like, but I am. There
- 36:24is a thin chance you make more than you paid for it. Most likely
- 36:30you got a ten cent rare and you threw your money away too, Like,
- 36:32well what is that? But but you have a better chance of making
- 36:37money in other games. I feel you have better chance of making money and
- 36:39other games and keep playing a hobbyist game to make money off of it,
- 36:45right, But that is what that is what drives people? Why we've already
- 36:51gone through this, We've already been like through the flesh and blood. Why
- 36:53do people go to the do the flesh and blood things? Why are people
- 36:55buying box after box of flesh and blood and magic? It's to buying these
- 37:00unicorns. I mean there's just there's no unicorn. There's nothing special in here
- 37:07that that is driving people. There's no magical foil, there's I mean,
- 37:09we've got special track, so I a whole bunch of whoa for the purpose.
- 37:16Yep. Well, I'm not wrong in that this game lacks the any
- 37:24the I'm gonna crack this even though I care less, could care less about
- 37:28playing this game stuff like it doesn't have that. But I don't think that's
- 37:34that big of a deal. Like I don't play any of those other goddamn
- 37:37games because that doesn't interest me. Although I am a gambler, but I'm
- 37:42a gambler because I don't want to buy another thirty six hundred dollars deck and
- 37:45I want to open it so again, because they're good at keyboards, decks,
- 37:52moss so so I I asked chat gpt to generate a list of the
- 38:00ten best position celebrities to promote key Forge by going playing show themselves on social
- 38:07media playing it. So here's the list that chet GPT came up with.
- 38:14So number one, will Wheaton right put it on the Tabletop web series,
- 38:20assuming that's still even going. Number two, wait and do it anymore.
- 38:24I believe he might be in the background now, but he's still there.
- 38:30Yeah, he's a genuine passion for gaming, a significant following the tabletop gaming
- 38:34community. Okay, Felicia Day, that's that's a good choice on that same
- 38:39thing. Yeah. Yeah, Tom Vassel though I don't think Tom from the
- 38:44Dice Tower, I don't think he would. I believes already the first round
- 38:52on key Forge already gave it very positive reviews and talked about it a lot
- 38:55on the podcast back then, like ze Garcia did review Wins of Exchange and
- 39:02reviewed it positively. All right, Then it's got Matthew Mercer, so he's
- 39:10the dungeonmaster for critical role, so that's interesting. Then it starts to get
- 39:16more interesting. So number five Emma Stone. She's publicly expressed her love of
- 39:23board games that even appeared to Jimmy Fallon's Box of Live segment. She showcase
- 39:28for enthusiasm for playing games. Her broad up people could attract water audience.
- 39:31The key forge okay, Emma Stone, I get my yeah, yeah,
- 39:37I know right, the Emma Stone. I'm yeah all right. How about
- 39:40this one? Uh? Number six William Dafoe les, Yeah, will you
- 39:50have the fast distinct personality to people could attract unique audience. The key forage.
- 39:52His association with the game could generate curiosity among his fans. Okay,
- 39:59I know, right, Tyler, I don't actually know who that is?
- 40:05Are you should? Tyler? It's not only actually one month gamer and host
- 40:09of Vbsoft's E three presentations. She was the last host of Whose line is
- 40:14it? Anyways? Yeah? Okay, okay. Then Stephen Colbert okay,
- 40:23all right they cost a few millions. Yeah yeah probably mcdeck face. Yeah
- 40:32that's what we did. Uh. Then we need then Ashley Johnson, who's
- 40:37a number member of the Critical Role cast. Uh. And then number ten
- 40:42Nathan Philon million. Yeah so right he's there. Yeah that could be good.
- 40:52So overall this list is not bad. Jut GPT Jeremy get on it.
- 41:01Yeah, reach out to William to phil dial like, hey, will
- 41:07you ever heard a key? Yeah? I chat you know, reaches the
- 41:13target audience. I bet you a CPT probably knows all these folks. You
- 41:16know, absolutely, I think you asked the wrong question. Does it just
- 41:22ask chet CPT? There I went, what's wrong with my question? Yeah?
- 41:27Go ahead? I would I would say Internet personalities, not celebrities,
- 41:31because I don't know if they consider them. I don't know if they would
- 41:36consider like all those are celebrities, like they've done film and movies and whatnot
- 41:42Internet personalities. So there's the kid with the toys Ryan's world. There you
- 41:50go. Yeah he's older now, so maybe yeah he can play some key
- 41:52Forge. Okay, I'm done. You're you're that's your extent swinging a miss?
- 42:04Oh this is not I don't know suggesting people. I don't know who
- 42:07you like. What do you gotta get? You gotta you gotta remember really
- 42:12key Forge is a dad's game. So what are dad's watching? So you
- 42:15gotta get this advertised on YouTube? D I Y channels? How do I
- 42:21fix my broken drawer? And then it plays a key Forge? Ad alight,
- 42:28that's one. Porn hump would be a good one. Oh the p
- 42:30hub nice? Ah? Why could you imagine bump bump but dump bump and
- 42:43then it's just it's the key forge roll right right you just cinematic music on
- 42:50the intro, like where's the skip ad? I don't know? Oh bad
- 42:54petty, Okay, where we go with this lock? That vault? How
- 43:05many dollars do we owe you? Chair? I am so sorry, family,
- 43:10I cannot can not keep this scroup wins. I don't know if the
- 43:19kids are gonna listen to this one. There, Okay, here's another one.
- 43:22It's not for me, but there is a huge crossover for wrestling fans,
- 43:27like half you dorks are talking about wrestling. I was listening. Hey
- 43:30hey, hey, easy crusher, Yes, go ahead. So I'm saying
- 43:35there, and then maybe maybe we need to sponsor a monster truck. A
- 43:39monster truck. Oh now we're talking fuzzy girl in the monster truck. Just
- 43:44sponsor the Iowa State wrestling team. There you go. No, no,
- 43:50that's a long kind of wrestling. Like no, no, you don't understand
- 43:53how big I was. Yeah, I've seen it out of Marry, But
- 43:59like, I don't know, can't we just be happy with how big we
- 44:01are? Like I like our community, so I do love our community.
- 44:08Z I will agree with that. But the community is getting smaller. The
- 44:13numbers had our vts are a little sad to see sixteen at the French about
- 44:19Oh, I don't know about France, but like I don't know if it
- 44:22was. But the reasons why Seattle is small is because of how jam Pact
- 44:25it was. The previous format sucked. They changed it. Had it been
- 44:30spread out over a full season, whether we're having roughly one a month,
- 44:34I think the numbers go back to what we would expect to the start with
- 44:37with the community that we have currently, and then if it grows, it
- 44:42grows whatever. And if it doesn't, I think that this is fine.
- 44:47I don't think that we can leave it with just it's fine. I think
- 44:51we need to have development from the grassroots in the game. I really feel
- 44:57like when you're like it's fine, it's like that dog in the burning house,
- 45:00like this is fine, perfectly normal, nothing to see here. So
- 45:04the other comment that came from Duncan is that I believe it was Lewis's area.
- 45:09They were able to play key Forge roughly six nights a week, if
- 45:13I got that correct, and right now they've kind of just been pushed to
- 45:19backburn and I believe there's only two stores where they're really showing up, and
- 45:23that's you have stores that have just moved on and that is where that's that's
- 45:31what hurts us. Okay, that's true. Like my region used to be
- 45:36one of the most key Fords populated in the country. We went from six
- 45:42stores to one and a half. Is that I mean there that that is
- 45:47what happened from twenty nineteen to now No to nine though, I mean,
- 45:55I don't know if you put a box on a shelf, if that does
- 45:59much. Being in my store it sells, I don't know. I mean
- 46:02that the other ones that doesn't, I mean, well they don't they don't
- 46:07have boxes on those shelves. Well, but the biggest thing is like,
- 46:08okay, so you put it. You just put a box on a shelf.
- 46:12Then what I mean. I'm not saying that's a good start. I
- 46:17will say that for our local Wookie we have had people the last two times
- 46:22out. I wasn't there this week because of my daughter's game, but there
- 46:25have been people would come over and just hey, what's this game? So
- 46:30at least seeing us out there is getting people to at least come and ask
- 46:35questions which hadn't happened in the past, no one has come in. But
- 46:40also have we been super clusive, like we've been trying to invite you almost
- 46:45feel like that over eager gamer, like, oh, hey, you're really
- 46:47curious, why don't you come over and we'll go ahead and show you this
- 46:51great game, and like it feels very awkward and so I wish, But
- 47:00I mean Forage only fans still are talking. I mean, I think all
- 47:08these all these ideas all heard our target demographic, right, I mean,
- 47:13if we're all right, all targets chat GPT. Who are the top YouTubers
- 47:20to promote key Forage? And I got a lot of the same stuff you
- 47:22did. Number one Tom Vassel, Number two, Rado rent Through, Yeah
- 47:34yeah, Rato cuts creators. Number three is shut Up and sit Down.
- 47:42Another creator they did do a number four is the Professor h Number five,
- 47:50which you're definitely not getting. This one is Game Nights. Uh, they
- 47:53only do magic, so I don't think you would even be able to go
- 47:57for them. Tabletop Mins, Dice Tower News, one Stop co Op Shop,
- 48:04Miniature Market board game. So that's what I got for As far as
- 48:08YouTube channels, you know what that list is Sleeping on, Sleeping on William
- 48:15Dafoe. Yeah, William Dafoe, I think it's you know that. Yeah
- 48:22for sure, got that real big following on his YouTube channel. So Ben
- 48:27Diesel plays board games like that, would be plays D and D or did
- 48:30play? Yeah the h m hm he plays the Witcher Henry Cavill. Yeah,
- 48:43all right, that's I know where others stand here. So before I
- 48:49get pushed to the steak my cashing Jesus as your slipper. This going with
- 48:57Rob Jeremy. That's where he's going. He's jail Jeremy is I think Ryan
- 49:01Jeremy's in jail right now. I'm not gonna lie to okay, I promote
- 49:07the game from jail, and it's probably it might be we might be all
- 49:13affordable. He needs a guess. So one of the things that since the
- 49:22next section is our Philly update, I will say that the Philly update,
- 49:28there was an email that was sent out for us to be able to purchase
- 49:30Master deecks if you were there, and to show interest if there was a
- 49:34pin. One of the comments that I'd heard from people who had previously been
- 49:38to Vault Tours is the difference in amount of product that was basically being given
- 49:45to all the people who is there. There's nothing in stores right now.
- 49:51So whether that used to be leaderboards, whether that used to be given at
- 49:55old Bolts, well, but you can use you use it, and that's
- 50:00why. So there's the pride you guys again, you're barking up a tree
- 50:06that we've talked on seven times on this cast. The prize wall is not
- 50:08coming back. It's too much fricking work for what it is. But this
- 50:14is again why all right, I want to showcase both give me one,
- 50:17give me one minute, and so what you're seeing is both in the store
- 50:22and online. We have to be able to build the local grassroots. We
- 50:28need to be able to get new people in. There needs to be some
- 50:30way to encourage those who are there. Not for all of us old guard
- 50:34who've already been around. We don't need another deck, but there should be
- 50:38something. There should be something for showing up at a vet. I'm sorry.
- 50:45The vault masters are nice, but getting the one deck there and your
- 50:49three sealed woe for one hundred or seventy five plus your event ticket registration is
- 50:55not what many individuals are used to to be able to go ahead and take
- 51:00first in something for sealed and to get one deck is measley. Our local
- 51:07store for Lacana can go ahead and push out more product there than one deck,
- 51:12and it's not their major I understand, but I'm saying, if you're
- 51:16having any game in your top, I agree with you, a local store
- 51:22is going to go ahead and we're producing basically the same amount of thirty plus
- 51:27people, and the product that's there is a is of more value and more
- 51:31time people are putting their time to be able to be there. It has
- 51:35to make it worthwhile. And so if we're only get seeing that one deck,
- 51:38the question is what is that telling our community? Is it that we
- 51:42just don't have the product? Is it that we just don't value or not
- 51:45going to put it there? I don't know, but I'm telling you there
- 51:49has to be something larger. What I saw at KFC was larger prize pools
- 51:54for the individuals who won. That seems to be more in line than one
- 52:00deck for going five And Oh, I don't know how I'm off. I'm
- 52:02off my stop, but I don't know how to increase the Vault tour presence
- 52:07or attendance. Have more players, have more players announced it ahead of time
- 52:13and have good prizing and good side of stop having shit formats. Okay,
- 52:22this is another one where I don't think a little better prizing because you also
- 52:28can't do tons better pride and there aren't well I mean, until they take
- 52:31away the cash prize at the top, you can't hand out a ton more,
- 52:35and I don't none of us are going for the mediocre prizes either,
- 52:38Like you want to bring something home, which is nice, but I wonder
- 52:46how many playmates I actually sold at Seattle. How many of you knew that
- 52:52the play mats were there and it was readily accessible component for even for Minnesota.
- 53:00They announced it at Minnesota once, but they announced it once, but
- 53:04I'm telling you it was content center in previous times. We have that to
- 53:07compare. So I'm sorry, but that's what happens. I don't bring back
- 53:14sealed. End of story spring back sealed. Sealed will increase your attendance,
- 53:20but we also sealed allows everybody to feel like they have a shot. Neither
- 53:28never shot. What's it? I will say? Sealed? It just does.
- 53:34Seals allows everybody to feel like they have a chance, they have a
- 53:37shot. I'm sorry, our con and Alliance just don't no matter how many
- 53:43times you told me I bought this our conduct this day. Well, guess
- 53:45what, that's great? I think for me, doesn't happen, doesn't happen
- 53:51for me, doesn't happen for the other ninety percent of people who don't.
- 53:53Just like old God decks out of will. So I mean, just the
- 54:00fact of the matter is, bring back sealed. It allows people to feel
- 54:02like they have a shot and are not wasting five to eight hundred dollars to
- 54:08travel all this way. Go this way because I know Jarre enjoys the camaraderie,
- 54:13but not everybody does. But the counter argument is why am I spending
- 54:16five hundred dollars to go ahead and pull random three decks that could mean absolutely
- 54:22nothing. Well, and I can hear that. Let's be honest, the
- 54:24most attended Vault Tours pre pandemic, we're all sealed and that is a fact
- 54:30that you cannot dispute. What is so why because you feel like you have
- 54:36a shot. So the point of Vault tours is people who are more local
- 54:42and within driving distance do feel like it's worth the hundred and fifty dollars to
- 54:46go. It's not a better draw for long distance, but they can still
- 54:51run double formats, yes, yes, I mean, but even that,
- 54:57we can't be our field. There was tons of people who traveled for Sealed
- 55:04tons how many people. I don't even remember the attendance at Indianapolis. That
- 55:09was quite a large field for a Sealed Vault tour. I mean, yeah,
- 55:15it was a New Worlds Collide was pretty much brand new at the time.
- 55:21But like, there's no doubt that sealed is what Number one, it's
- 55:25where the game flourishes the best, It's where it shines the best. And
- 55:30number two, like, there's no doubt that just sealed is what draws people
- 55:35to the to the show. So if we want to get people at the
- 55:38show, you gotta you gotta do what the people want, right, Yeah,
- 55:47I mean I hate to say this, but isn't this what Arthur's post
- 55:52on Facebook was pretty much all about? Yeah, and there was challenges.
- 56:00The challenges, sure, I think it talks about the leadership and where the
- 56:05perspective is. I saw that very loud and clear. Yes, And I
- 56:08think a lot of top players have said, yeah, the money is nice,
- 56:12but that's not why I'm coming to play. So if the money is
- 56:15not the draw, what does the money matter then, But we talked about
- 56:21this before too. I understand we've talked about this before. The current formats,
- 56:24the current prizes is all about bringing this like super top end elite kind
- 56:30of crowd out that doesn't exist in this game. Well, it does exist,
- 56:36but it isn't the it isn't the bring out a ton of people.
- 56:43It's not the people that, like you know, played the game through the
- 56:46pandemic and still continue to play the game. All right, well, yeah,
- 56:53should we move into our Dallas predictions. Let's do it all right,
- 57:00because we are long in the tooth already. I gotta bed, I gotta
- 57:02wake up early to get on a plane. I as well, do not
- 57:07have to wake up early to get on a plane. I have to wake
- 57:09up early to go to work. But the run us through the predictions.
- 57:15All right, we put on our poll. I didn't like average them this
- 57:19time. I just kind of took the most popular vote from the fourteen or
- 57:23so patrons that came through. So we have that, and then we have
- 57:30each of us up to do our own predictions. Speaking of for our patrons
- 57:35out there, better dot cards drop better dot cards, check out the website,
- 57:43get uses scores and if high enough, patron, you can get office
- 57:46scores in there too. Yeah, see his life miserable. I love doing
- 57:52that. It's not making my life. Everybody submitted DT deck. Well that's
- 58:00an easy store. Then sorry Smith the number two French national deck. Oh
- 58:07god, f number two yeah, f minus four fishes. All right.
- 58:20So for the ark On field in Dallas, our patreons are saying sixty percent
- 58:25will be whoe, twenty five percent mm and then fifteen percent other. What
- 58:34do we think? Guys think it stays right in at forty five to fifty
- 58:37percent range for woe Yep, ask how much woe? Uh fifty five,
- 58:47Wookie fifty six. I'm gonna go with the fifty. I met j I
- 58:55met fifty. But I'm gonna tell you that my MM is where I think
- 58:59I'm seeing a decrease. Uh elf, whoa percent as long as this isn't
- 59:05going, as long as he isn't, price is right rules, I'm going
- 59:07forty nine. It's not present, all right, I'm gonna go backwards,
- 59:13elf, Amen ten r j al right, amen, MM, I'm gonna
- 59:21put at twenty. I am gonna go twenty five mm Wookie seventeen sheep fourteen
- 59:36dress twenty all right, then we can do the others later. So far,
- 59:45so top. The bottom we've ELF is our low at forty nine percent.
- 59:47Whoa, the patreons are at sixty percent. Whoh mm. The lowest
- 59:53is ELF at ten percent, and the highest is me and the patrons at
- 1:00:00twenty five. I think people will see the DT dominance that came out in
- 1:00:04France and adjust accordingly. I think the most variance with MM, we're all
- 1:00:08pretty much right around there. They will remember they have a trash box of
- 1:00:13DT. There will still be one DT deck, so one still be two.
- 1:00:20All right, top eight of ARCon we're coming off an archon we're six
- 1:00:24wow made top eight in Seattle, or patreons are saying four wodex to mm
- 1:00:30to other, let's go from the top draft or how many wodex five and
- 1:00:37mm m hmm one and that leaves to remaining okay, sheep, how many
- 1:00:49wodex bick top eight four four mm one? That leaves three remaining? Whookeie,
- 1:01:00whoa five h mm one? And to your main right there with dress,
- 1:01:09I'm going to my answers say one mm and trying to think of the
- 1:01:19decks actually know in the field and three no two two other, which leaves
- 1:01:27five. Yep, I'm right there with Wookie dress. Yeah, I'm a
- 1:01:30four one three with sheep. Okay, Elf, you know I think I'm
- 1:01:37gonna go five wow, two mm one other. Come on, you should
- 1:01:40just gone eight wow. Mhmm. That is not the well for our team
- 1:01:45with elf slide. But okay, we'll see. We'll see how many people
- 1:01:50show up for Dallas ark On. Our patriots are saying sixty five start of
- 1:01:54the bottom. Elf. Oh, this is tough. I don't know how
- 1:02:01many today, Like it's real. Curly had ninety nine for ar Con,
- 1:02:07Minnesota had sixty seven, Seattle had forty seven. So I'm gonna I'm gonna
- 1:02:15hedge my bets and I'm gonna say seventy five. J h, I'm at
- 1:02:22seventy two, seventy two or seventy also seventy two, Okay, I'm gonna
- 1:02:31say sixty nine. Wookie guess ye seven, the lower run keep seventy eight,
- 1:02:45all right, Sires drafts seventy nine, all right, high end of
- 1:02:52seventy nine. Wookie's are lowing in fifty seven? All said? This is
- 1:02:55actually is this? Wait? People who signed up for eight. Sure,
- 1:03:00how many people are gonna have a plan? This is how many people play
- 1:03:01in our come. Oh, this is fine, it's fine. I think
- 1:03:07seven people aren't going to play, but six to eight of them will switch
- 1:03:13over to Alliance all right. I mean also was one of the originally announced
- 1:03:16vaults, so I think that there will be more people planning to go to
- 1:03:20it because it is like just start like triangle of population has a ton of
- 1:03:24people inside, right, how many people are actually going to play Alliance's all
- 1:03:31said and done, our patreons settled around twenty, which is interesting. I'll
- 1:03:37start this one. I'm gonna say eighteen Wookie should should we say if you
- 1:03:47think this is a crossover or Independent is gonna be independent? Have to be
- 1:03:54independent? This is for independent if it is, if it is a crossover,
- 1:04:00it would basically be seventy five percent of our numbers up top. Like
- 1:04:02this is okay, okay, So if there's done, if it is a
- 1:04:05bean where you get to play both this, this won't matter. Uh so,
- 1:04:11assuming double I get concurrent, what's your number? Seventeen? Uh drafts
- 1:04:19eight? Oh shit, j A twenty two, twenty two, thirty thirty,
- 1:04:29twenty two. The only time they've cracked twenty is when you could play
- 1:04:32in both yep eight bread. Well, I heard they were advertising Alliance on
- 1:04:42p hubs, so maybe we'll get some more Yeah, yeah, mixing,
- 1:04:48mixing those pots. Oh yeah, you know, I like it all right?
- 1:05:00Whoa percentage? I think it's uh, I don't remember what the actually
- 1:05:03from the other ones for, but so we're just gonna do WOA versus other
- 1:05:08because the MM isn't as big of a deal versus the Alliance go So basically,
- 1:05:14what is the woe percentage for Alliance Trasper Ah fifty, Sheep fifty,
- 1:05:29Wookie fifty one. I think we're gonna see an uptick in the woe as
- 1:05:38this is the US, this is now mid September. People have lots,
- 1:05:42like lots of chances to make more Alliance decks, and a lot of them
- 1:05:46are doing it with woe. From what I've seen on line, I think
- 1:05:49I'm going up to sixty here, jare I'm at sixty with you. Oh
- 1:05:55I'm at sixty as well. And our patreons are the low end of this.
- 1:06:01And I still think it's just a healthy mix of the other as far
- 1:06:04as the Alliance goes. But it's the top eight where we saw less Wow
- 1:06:11DECKX hit top eight in Seattle most recently, when basically everybody could play Whoa.
- 1:06:16I think we only saw two or three in Seattle where everyone could play
- 1:06:21Alliance. So this is where it gets our patreons go four two two four
- 1:06:26woe two mm too other. I'm gonna do the same thing here. I'm
- 1:06:30just gonna go to WOA versus the other because after a Whoa, it's a
- 1:06:34pretty pretty even for Alliance, so drastic or how many WO decks are hitting?
- 1:06:40Actually I started off, Oh if how many who decks hit top top
- 1:06:44eight for Aliance, I'm gonna go for three, all right, at least
- 1:06:48five or mains that's good, Jr. I've four two two well four four
- 1:06:55wo dex. Yeah, I think we see a dip in Dallas. I
- 1:06:59think we're we're gonna see two wowdecks make top eight Alliance. Okay, oh
- 1:07:02Wookie five. That's actually would line up more with the sixty percent that most
- 1:07:12of us predicted. Sheep three three Draft Scorer well to be internally consistent,
- 1:07:19since I said we were gonna have to immediately got to the top eight,
- 1:07:25and I said fifty percent it has to be four. Yeah, fifty percent
- 1:07:30woe being of eights is four, so yeah, logically sound programmer math.
- 1:07:38Alright, alright, how many infurnuses total this is between all events? How
- 1:07:42many infurnases do we see? We did see a stark dip in Seattle.
- 1:07:47I think there was only like, well there's less people, but I think
- 1:07:50it would only be like eleven and ten coming back from like the thirty something
- 1:07:56we had way back in Philly. Our patrons think Dallas is going to come
- 1:08:01back into the inferno land and hit thirty seven between both events. Let's have
- 1:08:08have Wookie start Wookie. How many infurnaces do we see in Dallas? All
- 1:08:13right, that would be the lowest yet, so i'd be interesting because this
- 1:08:17is total between both events. Oh wow, yeah, I'll stick with seventeen
- 1:08:24cheap well because you had a low player count too, right, yeah,
- 1:08:28yeah, that makes sense. What am I guessing? Total number of in
- 1:08:31furnaces that hit hit hit play adding up both events. It's the plural fern
- 1:08:36furnace and fern eye maybe drafts. How many infurnace do we see? H
- 1:08:48thirty thirty. I'm gonna go with twenty five JR. Twenty seven elf.
- 1:08:57All right, our Patreons hit the very high at thirty seven. The lowest
- 1:09:01we have Wookie at seventeen, and several of us are in that high twenties
- 1:09:05low thirties runners. So I feel like one of our patrions just trying to
- 1:09:09throw off the numbers. Like one person put in two hundred. I think
- 1:09:15one person is like eighty, and I was like, what, okay are
- 1:09:21Interestingly enough, both of them actually did have a popular vote for our who's
- 1:09:26gonna win ark on an Alliance the patreons with I think there's only like fourteen
- 1:09:31patreons have put in it put in, but I think three or four put
- 1:09:35sheep for the winner for ark On. So you have some fans you're you're,
- 1:09:41you're, you still have fans out there Sheep and Double now has the
- 1:09:45fan club. Apparently we have three people saying that Noble's gonna take down Alliance.
- 1:09:51It's not fair when the guy makes three accounts so he can vote for
- 1:09:56himself. Oh, I mean, I guess he is a paid d I
- 1:10:00didn't actually check if he filled out, so one of those could be himself.
- 1:10:06Yeah, that is three votes free one person like I guess Jason had
- 1:10:15two votes, but he's not gonna be there. So let's see Drash who
- 1:10:25wins ms ARK Deep Alliance? I do like somebody totally do you know what?
- 1:10:41I'm looking into the audience right now? I'm gonna say Vargas is gonna
- 1:10:45be there playing Alliance. I don't have no idea it's gonna be there,
- 1:10:48and I don't think he plays Alliance. Let's see sports. I'm but who
- 1:10:53knows. Let's go to Wookie. Wookie who wins our cry you're gone?
- 1:11:01Wi huh? Try again. We didn't hear anything you said? All I
- 1:11:05said because I didn't say anything. Drazz Car that's cool? Gets it done?
- 1:11:15Wow? Who wins Alliance? Ctp Okay, he wins Ace jails Like
- 1:11:28these pods are still off the printer. It's like figures are burning. It's
- 1:11:33all lateral shifts. Watch would that even be good? I don't think so,
- 1:11:41Babies, I don't know. He's what to your opponent that I am
- 1:11:45calling for ARCon, That fraud is going to light it up? That is
- 1:11:47cheap all right, and Alliance. I'm gonna go with my good friend Z
- 1:11:57you jerk else who woods ARCon? So I'd like to credit Chet gbt frick
- 1:12:05suggestions. So I think Aisha Taylor takes ARCon, and I think William Dafoe
- 1:12:11is the underdog and Alliance. I love how these predictions have just spiraled into
- 1:12:18nothingness. Show. I love it. I absolutely love it. The dumpster
- 1:12:30fire that is the Ark Alliance for the Sheep who wins Archon? Uh frozen
- 1:12:39tonton? What? Okay, I gotta go with some local some local stuff
- 1:12:46Ryan. Okay, now his brother's brother Broom, Right, all right,
- 1:12:55who is alliance? Are you? Oh? You have two votes here?
- 1:13:01Uh? For me, I'm going to vote for Arcan. I'm going to
- 1:13:08say I'm gonna take the other brothers Ander or the Wynn. There you go,
- 1:13:15ARCon, and I'm gonna go with my boy Noble to take out the
- 1:13:20second Vault Alliance Championship, then join the Patreons and and and take out William
- 1:13:30Dafoe the top table. Yeah, I think Noble one can take out Smile
- 1:13:39the whole time. And then well, if we end up being able to
- 1:13:44play both, like maybe maybe Sheep takes it all down. Playing fraud on
- 1:13:50both of them here works. Well, Oh no, I heard the faux
- 1:13:54plays dirty. He's not the friend at the table. Okay, Well that's
- 1:14:00what we got. Certain suite for the predictions this week. I think that
- 1:14:02went much faster than last time, and we're getting closer to the world.
- 1:14:09We only have one more of these to predict. Maybe we'll hear what about
- 1:14:13the details soon? Well, we gave everyone the details last week. Remember
- 1:14:17you need to buy a tip. Last DAR episode didn't go up because yeah,
- 1:14:23recording gotta getta So I'll be there Monday, Monday, November six six
- 1:14:30November Tuesday, November fourteen. Get some marshmallows. Start a fire right there
- 1:14:35on their their parking a lot. Yeah, you're a master. Decks out
- 1:14:41for your kindling. We like stopped by the ac trailer. We're gonna actually
- 1:14:45get a trailer like a you know, move it into like a lout style.
- 1:14:49Is it like a bus like one of those big like tours? We
- 1:14:53should no, like a mobile home. We're gonna just guys, if I
- 1:14:58like hit the lottery and retire, That's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna
- 1:15:00get that bus. I'm gonna drive around from Vault Tour to Vault Tour and
- 1:15:04like, you know, just catch a ride with Jeremy. He already does
- 1:15:08us. Yeah, yeah, maybe I'll give Jeremy a ride. Corner is
- 1:15:13just gonna buy a mobile home and put it. This is a creepy black
- 1:15:15veil. No, I mean, that's what the patron funds are really for.
- 1:15:17And I'm like, who's that kicking black in my seat? Right?
- 1:15:20It's x Ray. Of course, all I'm picturing is dumb and dumber you
- 1:15:26guys on a little scooter. That's it. That's what I'm picturing. Like,
- 1:15:30there is that grassy area between like the the hotel and the games that
- 1:15:33are we can just like turn that into like a hobo tint. I mean
- 1:15:38in middle of Minnesota and November, what could go wrong? It'll be fun.
- 1:15:43That's why you gotta get a fire wood. Just bring a negative fifteen
- 1:15:47sleeping bag and you're fine. Okay, but yes, November sixth, to
- 1:15:53remember fourteenth. Book all those days off. Book your flights. Now,
- 1:15:59I'll see you there with shape. I'll transfer you some some PTO. I
- 1:16:03don't think that's how it works, but I will, all right, I
- 1:16:11need it, all right, all right, So that's gonna hit the chast
- 1:16:17week. Yeah, I hope that shows a solid character for today, for
- 1:16:20their one character day update. Yeah, he pace space for the Hub for
- 1:16:29the Hub or the Graham. All right, that's gonna do it for us
- 1:16:32this week. We'll see y'all next week. Be forging everyone. May the
- 1:16:41forage be with you another time, where I will my welcome thing, my
- 1:16:47transition meditation. I go there reaching night and I always come back to myself.
- 1:16:59Now me for dead lie. My ex is live in Texas, and
- 1:17:10Texas is a place I really loved to be. But my ass