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Patriots Unfiltered 6/2: Minicamp Preview, Next Patriots Hall of Famer? · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It's Thursday here at Gilette Stadium.
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  Speaker 1: Back to our regularly scheduled programming at our regularly scheduled
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  Speaker 1: time regularly, but we're gonna be back off at next
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  Speaker 1: week for the for the live show. Yeah, next week
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  Speaker 1: is a big week. We got the mandatory mini camps.
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  Speaker 1: So on Tuesday and Thursday we'll just day one of
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  Speaker 1: the College World Series out. You guys are gonna do
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  Speaker 1: the show. We'll have live shows from from practice high
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  Speaker 1: above practice and video. So we'll announce the times as
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  Speaker 1: soon as we find out when it is. But Tuesday
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  Speaker 1: and Thursday live shows from practice. So Thursday you get
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  Speaker 1: a two for because Wednesday we're watching it, not having
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  Speaker 1: a show, and then we'll come in Thursday we'll be
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  Speaker 1: watching it. We'll be telling you what happened yesterday, where
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  Speaker 1: happened today. Although Paul today had I think the quintessential
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  Speaker 1: quote about Mini Camp. Paul, can you can you can
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  Speaker 1: you share this with the group please? I loved it.
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  Speaker 1: Mini Campus just OTAs that they have to go to.
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  Speaker 1: I love that. Well, yeah, when you build it up
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  Speaker 1: a minire we go mini camp are is a training camp,
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  Speaker 1: mini camp that they have to go. It's all but
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  Speaker 1: it's all I know, But it's all a step in
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  Speaker 1: the process. Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, kind of the
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  Speaker 1: highlight of other than the draft and you know, the
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  Speaker 1: free agent open and free agency the draft. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of the most casual football fans think that
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  Speaker 1: mini camp is different than OTAs, like it's a higher level. Right,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's the only point that I was And the
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  Speaker 1: only difference really between the two is it's mandatory. You
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  Speaker 1: have to be there or you get fined. I wonder
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  Speaker 1: how much like the OTA stuff feeds into what they
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  Speaker 1: do at mini camp though, you know, I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: know if to us it looks like kind of the same,
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  Speaker 1: but for them, I'm trying to install things. Oh that's
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  Speaker 1: that's like the stack them up, right. Yeah, but it's
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  Speaker 1: this like a all right, we've had OTAs since whatever
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  Speaker 1: it's been. They've been here since mid April. Now are
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  Speaker 1: we starting to really we've got everything in let's really
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  Speaker 1: is it like a review? Perhaps you're intense all right now,
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  Speaker 1: we're really install I don't know how it is on
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  Speaker 1: other teams, but I'm telling you on this team, if
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  Speaker 1: you miss OTAs, you fall behind. Yeah, because they don't
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  Speaker 1: wait for you. There's not a lot of I think reviewing.
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  Speaker 1: I think that once they get to minicamp, they're building
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  Speaker 1: on what they just did the last That's correct. There's
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  Speaker 1: no question that you can't just miss all the time
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  Speaker 1: and feel like you didn't miss any like they're not
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  Speaker 1: going to start over right when you get there. That's yeah,
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  Speaker 1: no question. That's why I talking to Paul this morning
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  Speaker 1: just about you know, we haven't seen Chason Hines or
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Stuber, two rookies. It's just that that that pins
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  Speaker 1: the radar a little bit for the guys getting behind.
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  Speaker 1: I was asking Paul if it's still related to and
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  Speaker 1: they graduate, But I checked Michigan's graduation that was in April,
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  Speaker 1: so I don't think that that hasn't anything to do
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  Speaker 1: with it. At least you get a sense next week
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  Speaker 1: would be a mandatory of our guys insured or you know,
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  Speaker 1: is there was some kind of holdout situation going on,
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  Speaker 1: or you know, was it just something, But you know,
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  Speaker 1: regardless of why they're not here. It could be for
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  Speaker 1: a good reason. They fall behind. Yeah. Well and I
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  Speaker 1: saw too, um you know Pat's pulpit. They went through
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  Speaker 1: all the Patriots dot com pictures and they noticed, like
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  Speaker 1: God Chaw was back at practice yesterday. You know, they
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  Speaker 1: were doing the detective Slew thing. So just an example,
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  Speaker 1: you know, guys come and go. Just because guys weren't
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  Speaker 1: there the day that we were there, it doesn't mean that, hey,
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  Speaker 1: they might be here tomorrow. They might have been here yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: It's not you know, although you know, still no pictures
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  Speaker 1: of Isaiah Wynn, which I think is really become a
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  Speaker 1: bigger story now. Everybody seems to kind of be tom
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we talked about it yesterday, but it does
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  Speaker 1: seem like something I think just a lot of them
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  Speaker 1: took off until June. I mean, Kyler Murray was like
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  Speaker 1: not at the Cardinals practice first Ota practices either. Then
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  Speaker 1: he popped up yesterday June first. So I feel like
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  Speaker 1: some people just wanted off until June for whatever reason.
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  Speaker 1: He got other stuff too, like family graduations, wedding. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I think there's probably stuff. It's probably a case by
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  Speaker 1: case basis for a lot of different guys. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: Adrian Phillips had talked about being home to help, you know,
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  Speaker 1: with his with his son. Um. You know, Kyler Murray
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  Speaker 1: is clearly a contract you know situation. So I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if any of these guys are contractual if someone's
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  Speaker 1: looking for more money. Judean have a baby too, like
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  Speaker 1: later like not well he didn't have a baby, his
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  Speaker 1: wife had a baby later later, like towards the end
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  Speaker 1: of the season, right, I think I believe. So Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean it could I know, between Hunter,
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  Speaker 1: Henry Judean, Adrian Phillips, babies everywhere. Um, but yeah, that's yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the stuff where you know, during the season,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what do you see your kid like barely
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  Speaker 1: at all? Well, that's my whole thing. If you're deciding
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  Speaker 1: like I'm not going to OTAs, they're voluntary, I have
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  Speaker 1: no problem with that. I just I think it's weird,
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  Speaker 1: like I'm not going because my wife just had a baby,
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  Speaker 1: Like okay, well do you want to go to would
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  Speaker 1: you normally go to OTAs? Like in other words, if
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  Speaker 1: you just think I don't need like like Brady hit
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  Speaker 1: just decided at some point, I don't need this anymore.
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  Speaker 1: I don't need to be on my feet all spring.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there's a better way for me to train.
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  Speaker 1: That's up to you, you know whatever. I just think
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  Speaker 1: it's weird, like how they pick and choose from year
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  Speaker 1: to year. Different you know. Jonah Smith last year couldn't
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  Speaker 1: because his wife had a baby, like the whole time,
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  Speaker 1: but now this year he's here, Like, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I just think it's funny how to each his own.
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  Speaker 1: They're all individual decisions that they make in their own
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  Speaker 1: best interests, that's in you know whatever. But they do
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  Speaker 1: so they do team at their own peril because like,
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  Speaker 1: well they do so on any team, an you fall behind,
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  Speaker 1: like you don't think that they're not installing the playbook
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  Speaker 1: and every everybody else's fall To speak for any other team,
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  Speaker 1: well I will, okay, they all have plays are here,
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  Speaker 1: But I'd love to know if if it's generally guys
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  Speaker 1: are either all in on tas or all out, or
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  Speaker 1: they're guys that come for a few days or I
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  Speaker 1: am I gonna able to be here next week but
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  Speaker 1: next week and you're kind of in and out getting
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  Speaker 1: a flavor for it, but not maybe you know, and
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  Speaker 1: obviously we have such specific days that were there, and
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  Speaker 1: it's like the guys that aren't there in those two
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  Speaker 1: specific days of the ones, right, And that's why, like
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  Speaker 1: I said, like on Tuesday when we were out there,
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  Speaker 1: we didn't see a certain amount of people. That doesn't
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  Speaker 1: mean on Wednesday the same guys. It doesn't mean last
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  Speaker 1: week when we were there on Monday. The next day
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  Speaker 1: was different too. And you never know who's hurt. That's
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  Speaker 1: the other thing about this time of year. No one,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like David Andrews was out there. He's coming
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  Speaker 1: off a shoulder surgery and really wasn't involved much last
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  Speaker 1: week and then this week he was yea, So I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, like you know, various stages of rehab, as
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  Speaker 1: Bill likes to say all the time during training camps.
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  Speaker 1: But we are groups too that have been like present
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  Speaker 1: for stretching and then I mean, you know, this last
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  Speaker 1: practice was weird with the condition calisthenics, the conditioning U
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  Speaker 1: but random guys that you know, we're kind of on
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  Speaker 1: the lower field and then up in the upper field.
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  Speaker 1: So I mean, I think we'll get a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of better sense of that next week. Two of who
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  Speaker 1: were kind of the guys still getting over surgeries, recoveries,
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  Speaker 1: that kind of thing. Because even guys who have been
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  Speaker 1: out there like last year, like blood Zo mcgirl, and
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  Speaker 1: they were kind of out and participating a little bit
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  Speaker 1: early on and then training camp comes in, they're nowhere
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  Speaker 1: to be found. Right. Well, we'll see. Yeah. Um, just
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  Speaker 1: a really really big aside. Women's softball awesome, do you
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  Speaker 1: think amazing? Do you think it's time to probably make
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  Speaker 1: the field a little big bigger, move the mound back
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more to increase the offense. Not enough
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  Speaker 1: offense these days? And no, I don't think so. I
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  Speaker 1: don't have enough samples. I mean, some of these pitchers
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  Speaker 1: are just overwhelming. Yeah, but there's more offense than you think. Really. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I've always been a big fan of softball. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's great, But I just I'd like to make the
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  Speaker 1: field a little bigger. You just I like watching because
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  Speaker 1: the games are over in him like an hour. I'm
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  Speaker 1: with Paul and that that's the reason, honestly that I
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  Speaker 1: like softball more than baseball, because it's over so much quicker.
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  Speaker 1: There's a mercy rule, like I'm like, it's like amen,
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  Speaker 1: I just cheers, cheers, cheers, and the dugout. Yes, I
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  Speaker 1: love it. Yeah, that's you don't like fun, Paul uh Well,
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  Speaker 1: I was Holliston always we always seem to have a
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  Speaker 1: good softball pitcher, and like if you have a good
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  Speaker 1: high school softball pitcher, it's like, right, you're unbeatable. Like
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  Speaker 1: they just they pitch every game. They never give up
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  Speaker 1: any hits. Um Liz Walker, I think she went to BC.
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  Speaker 1: She the news anchor Channel four. No, no, no, but
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  Speaker 1: I don't. They're watching La right now. And the pitcher
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  Speaker 1: she's probably like six two, she's she's big, and like
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  Speaker 1: she's barely threw her follow through and the balls on
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  Speaker 1: top of the hitter, like you know, watch this boom boom.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's quick. It's hard to hit. They can't
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  Speaker 1: they can't see Fred. What are they like? Forty five?
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  Speaker 1: What's the amount? Forty five? It's sixty no soft right?
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  Speaker 1: Is it forties? No? Is it little league? Distance? Forty
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  Speaker 1: six feet? I don't know. I'd be right, but I
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  Speaker 1: would say move it back basis and forty three and
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  Speaker 1: then I'd make the base pass longer. Just you know,
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  Speaker 1: softball is a little closer than little league. Yeah, sometimes too,
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  Speaker 1: you get like the running hit you know, kind of
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  Speaker 1: like in slap it or something's call. Yeah it's uh,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I think it's a it's
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  Speaker 1: a different kind of game. I wouldn't want to watch
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  Speaker 1: it like every single day, but I do generally watch
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  Speaker 1: the the NCAA is when they come around, and like
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  Speaker 1: Tamara said, you can watch a game like an hour,
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  Speaker 1: hour and a half and yeah, you don't feel like
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  Speaker 1: you lost your day anyway, Sorry about that. Yeah I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't need to be tweeting about it. But I
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  Speaker 1: don't apologize for supporting women. I know. But people that
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  Speaker 1: tuned into what talk about football that like, why is
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  Speaker 1: he talking about softball? Oh? Yeah, well nice catching. No,
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  Speaker 1: they would say that if we talked about the Celtics,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. I always pull for Wisconsin and softball
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  Speaker 1: because we met some of their players. When I had
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  Speaker 1: a fun night with women is past. Yeah, making the
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  Speaker 1: Celtics big night tonight, big night, take your nap now, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: nine o'clock. That's like I can say, I'm gonna stay
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  Speaker 1: up and watch it. And I had everything I could
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  Speaker 1: on Game seven just to stay up for that one,
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  Speaker 1: and that one went to like eleven. But I don't
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  Speaker 1: think I'll catch much. Absolutely not much of these ones.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe a little bit early on, but all unfortunate. I
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  Speaker 1: think most of the NBA playoff games have been blowouts. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: most of them haven't been close games where you like
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  Speaker 1: want to stay up to watch the end. It's like
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  Speaker 1: it's been terrible throughout the everyone. It's like, you're up
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  Speaker 1: twenty five, I'm turning the channel to Palls point last
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  Speaker 1: last show yesterday, like I want to be able to
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  Speaker 1: flip through, like if this twenty five point game, Like,
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  Speaker 1: it's a good thing they're not streaming. I would never
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  Speaker 1: be able to see. That was the only reason I
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  Speaker 1: stuck around for Game seven, because they started to close
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  Speaker 1: the lead game six. In Game seven, we're close. But
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  Speaker 1: throughout the playoffs, not just in the Eastern Conference and
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  Speaker 1: the Western Conference has been the same. I mean game
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  Speaker 1: seven blowouts like Dallas and Phoenix. The game was like
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  Speaker 1: thirty points at the half. There's no sense even watching
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  Speaker 1: a game seven. Yeah, And I was thinking about, like,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, you know, when when a team gets
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  Speaker 1: up twenty five points in basketball, and a lot of
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  Speaker 1: times teams do come back from that. It's not unusual. Um,
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  Speaker 1: but what's like it's not as exciting when a team,
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  Speaker 1: like in football, falls behind and to come back and
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  Speaker 1: the things that had to happen for them to come back.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's a method. I'll tune in, I'll check
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  Speaker 1: in and a half hour from now and see what
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  Speaker 1: happened and if they had come back, I don't feel
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  Speaker 1: like I missed a lot now, you know. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: then they slowly chip away at it too. It's kind
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  Speaker 1: of a gradual thing where it's like say the twenty
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  Speaker 1: eighth to three come back. You know you had such
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  Speaker 1: key moments like the high Tower sack and you know,
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  Speaker 1: big big plays that just shifted things and you could
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  Speaker 1: feel a turn. But basketball, I don't know. Maybe I
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  Speaker 1: don't watch as much. What if I was, if that
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  Speaker 1: wasn't the Super Bowl, I would not and I would
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  Speaker 1: not have been like watching that as a neutral fan,
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  Speaker 1: like the Super Bowl is gonna make you watching them
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  Speaker 1: out of why oh no. If I'm watching like a
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  Speaker 1: game on Sunday and it's twenty eight three, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: watching that game anymore. And then if I find out
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  Speaker 1: like later it's close, oh whoa, they made a comeback,
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  Speaker 1: I'll put it on out. But just like I do
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  Speaker 1: with basketball. You know, I agree, like people will tune out,
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  Speaker 1: but you miss more, is what I'm saying. If you're
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  Speaker 1: tune out from a football game and the things that happened,
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  Speaker 1: so that things don't happen. To have a team come
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  Speaker 1: back from twenty five and it's all like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the other team starts missing and you start hitting, you know,
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  Speaker 1: slowly chipping away football. That could be interceptions, it could
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  Speaker 1: be that big sack, that could be amazing touch. You know,
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  Speaker 1: like there's different ways you can't figure out the difference.
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  Speaker 1: This is one of those semantic arguments I'm gonna eliminate.
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  Speaker 1: There's different ways that a comeback happens in football and
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  Speaker 1: sometimes basketball, they missed the three pointer and the other
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  Speaker 1: team gets the rebound, goes out and score. Sometimes they
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  Speaker 1: steal it in the backcourt because they start pressing, and
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  Speaker 1: sometimes you know, in football, they just force it three
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  Speaker 1: and I'll have to punch. That happened and the next
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  Speaker 1: time High Tower strips. Actually, like you never know turnovers.
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  Speaker 1: But the commonality is the team that's ahead stop scoring.
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  Speaker 1: In the team that's behind scores more. Yeah, you broke
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  Speaker 1: it down perfectly, but there you go. It's kind of
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  Speaker 1: like there's different ways that have happened and Paul's they're
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  Speaker 1: absolutely different ways that they happened in both sports. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's not, it's not. It's more subtle in basketball than
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  Speaker 1: it is in football. I think in basketball was just
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  Speaker 1: kind of stressful as keeping track of like the fouls,
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  Speaker 1: where like you can be up by twenty five points,
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  Speaker 1: but then say if like two of your best players
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  Speaker 1: getting foul trouble, then you're like that changes everything. Right,
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  Speaker 1: I'll just give you the game seven the other night
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  Speaker 1: as an example, Like the last three minutes, all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden, Miami started getting stops and then getting runouts
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  Speaker 1: to get easy baskets, and you go from down thirteen
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  Speaker 1: to down two with the ball with thirty seconds twenty
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  Speaker 1: seconds left. Yeah, like it wasn't you know, the same
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  Speaker 1: thing every time. It was a different thing every time,
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  Speaker 1: but you know the commonality was Marcus Smart up threes.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, you know what, you brought that up
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  Speaker 1: fall because I'm gonna defend him a little bit here
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  Speaker 1: here because you know I don't like him. No, No,
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  Speaker 1: it's always about anyone want to fight me, I want
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  Speaker 1: to argue with me. I'm gonna fight I'm gonna fight everybody.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna fight out because everybody seems to be against him.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not opposed. My problem with him in that game
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  Speaker 1: wasn't the fact that he was throwing those shots up.
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  Speaker 1: He was wide open on all of those. They were
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  Speaker 1: daring him to do it, And my problem is the
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  Speaker 1: fact he missed him all. Like if he had hit
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: two out of five, you know, we're talking about a
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: different Why was that by design? Why do you think
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: he was wide open? Because they thought he was the
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: weak link and they thought he would shoot it right,
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: and they said, thank you for shooting. I know, but
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: he was Why I am okay with him taking those shots.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: You got to make at that you and couple of them.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: You and Celtics fans think that there's value in that.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: How did you feel about Jimmy Butler's shot. I think
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: that was a good shot too. He's the guy you know,
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: you're wide open. I don't have a big problem with
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: it because I don't think Miami had much of a
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: shot in overtime. I think that was it. I think
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: they were exhausting everything right there. But he's a terrible
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: three point shooter. It's I mean, on the surface, it's
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: not a good play. I don't have a problem with
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: it because I think Butler was the only reason why
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: they were in that position. He took a shot. He
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: took one shot to make one, you know, one play,
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: and we win. For the opposite reason, I have a
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: big problem with Smart because he had to try to
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: be the hero instead of making the right play and
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: driving to the basket, maybe getting followed. He's an excellent
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: free throw shooter, get fouled, get to the line, and
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: the game. He had to be a hero and try
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: to throw the dagger with three point after three pointer
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: after three pointer, and he missed them all. Why because
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: he's not a good shooter. Well, they weren't off I
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: think three three out of the five or three pointers, right,
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: you know, it's just kind of he's definitely not gonna
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: be able to do that against the Warriors because he's
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: gonna do that and the words are gonna go down
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: and make it three. So it's like he's not the
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: one to go shot for shots. Is that kind of
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: the book on him? Though? Is um poor decisions I
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: guess and hasn't matured really, And when when the game
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: is on the line in particular, he thinks he's Tatum
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: and Brown. He's one of them, you know. I love
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: when he's proud of the way that Tatum is really
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: emerged lately. I'm proud of him. Well, he's gonna have
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: to focus on his defensive this, yes, right. He can
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: be a very valuable player when he moves the ball
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: and does that kind of stuff and just plays team basketball.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: I think that was a big part of their run
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: in the second half of the season, was him cutting
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: down on the shots and the playoffs, that's been the opposite.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: His shot attempts are run the rise. Can I ask
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: a question, how did he win Defensive Player of the Year?
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: I know I might be teeing you up on this one,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: but usually I watch well I can tell him and
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: they considered him the best defensive player and the best
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: defensive team, is my answer. But I don't know, like yeah,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: because there were three Celtics. I think Rob Williams votes
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: is a far better defensive player. But he's hurt all
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: the time. I mean so, and I come to a
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: kind of like no opinions really, but just watching the
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: energy that they play defense with. That what stuck out
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: to me, not that he was individually. Oh he's it
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: seems good, but everybody he's a good defensive over not
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: like they say he is. Yeah, let's put it that way. Yeah,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: but I'm looking forward to the series because of what
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Tamara said. It's a contrast of styles. Like you said that,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: like they can't, you know, have him missing threes because
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Golden State won't miss them. Noah got some most seven
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Patriots heighlights up here right now, some big comebacks man
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: comebacks that that stretched though early in the season. What
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, it was just it was comical, it was
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: it felt unfair at times. It really felt unfair. Like
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: that game against Cincinnati, they show one of the Mosses
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: catches where it's like, how is it gets so easy? Well,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: it was just so it was just so different from
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: what we've seen with the Like it was all of
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: a sudden, Wow, we have a high powered offense. Not
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: that they didn't score in the thirties in oh three,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: you know four they did, but this was like a
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: whole different thing. They had never seen that before. The
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Miami game. It's like, and it was also so good
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: for Brady. It's like you give Brady and he could
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: do it. Just you could do it, you know, the
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: game management way, and he could do it the pinball way.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: You know what this is. They're talking Tony Romeo, So
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: get your popcorn ready? Yeah yeah, great team. I that
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Miami game was too that. I mean a couple of
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: those catches Moss had. I think like one of the
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: guys like fell into cl next to him. Oh yeah,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: that's when you just said he did. This is another
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: one of Eugene Wilson. A lot of guys defending uh Moss.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: There was I don't know if it was that year
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: or the next year. Uh Rivas was guarding. Now Rivas
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: said he had a hamstring and Moss caught one with
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: one hand. Yeah. So is this new because it's it's
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: saying their number seven? What are we talking about? This radio?
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: So we're watching on fl network right now. I don't
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: know if it's a new program, but it seems like
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: this is the uh the Top one hundred series, but
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: this is top ten teams and they've got the eleven
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Patriots at seven. Okay, So I don't know if this
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: is new new information or a new a new production.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: But I don't know, you know, not knowing the other
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: teams and not giving it a lot of thought. I
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: think seven is about right. I just wish they would
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: do one of those uh you know they did one
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: like the Lost Rings. I think was one of the
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: where they talk about some of the best teams to
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: never win a Super Bowl. I'm like, how do you
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: how do you not do the seven Patriots? They might
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: be numb one? Right? How were they not number one?
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Because we were we were about we were ready to
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: say they were the best team ever if they had one,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: if they're if they're seven on the all time greatest
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: teams list, that's pretty impressive, right, that's pretty impressive. That
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: didn't win it, right that game? Yep, you guys are lucky.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Well you weren't involved in that. They didn't go to
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: you for that. I do not believe that's what I
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: was expecting to see. I'm not involved in I don't
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: remember this this particular clip, but that's the kind of
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: stuff that we were. Andy and I were involved in
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: the Patriots. And I heard on the Twitter great Vine that, um,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: you're going to be on a podcast with with Big Head.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, we just finished it. Yeah with FITZI and Bighead.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Any good? Uh? It was fine. Any disagreements. No, not really,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: what are they What drum are they banging these days?
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: And what do you think we started talking about the
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: coaches Marcus s Yeah, who is going to So you're
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: all in agreement for the most part. Wow, well that's
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: not good, Paul. Wow, that's a great throw right there.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: I know you're looking for offense, but they're just gotten
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: down and run at the plate and a good play
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: by the textbook and they almost get a double play
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: out of it. She threw it down to second the
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: girl was safe. Yeah, Um, what else are we talking about?
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Oh no, we're in that void right now. I just
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: wish there was more. There have been more to kind
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: of take it on Tuesday, because I feel like last
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: week we got so much on Monday. We came into
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Tuesday show, we had a lot to first kind of
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: glimpse of everybody Monday, I mean, not Tuesday. This week,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: that practice was so low key it was hard to
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: really come out of it with anything. I had one
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: more thought on the conditioning aspect from Adrian Phillips press conference.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: He said that he thought the conditioning was really essential
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: because when it comes down to those final moments in
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: the game, they wanted to be able to finish. And
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: it made me think and I was like, so, do
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: we think it was a lack of conditioning, Like were
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: they exhausted by the end of the game of playing
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: catch up every like over half the season, or was
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: it the lack of depth sometimes with so many people.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: I think it's all of the above. I think it
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: was talent, lack of depth, same thing, and they were
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: just exhausted from Yeah, and I didn't we hear rumors
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: that there was some COVID going around that wasn't reported.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Maybe it got a little of the COVID. I mean,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: it's amazing. I think it's a good thing. I just
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: lose a game. It's just unbelievable. I like that you
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: brought that up because that stuck out to me. And
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: the thing that I thought was, maybe you're doing too
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: much of this because the last three years you pooped
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: out at the end. And I hear more about teams
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: that are running less, that are making sure that they
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: monitor It's just something. Yeah. But see, I don't think
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: they're conditioning changed how they conditioned. I just think that
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: they weren't as good. That's what I mean. I think
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: the bottom line is you're right, yeah, but I think
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: one of the things about the timing of the runs,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: like are they looking at that trying to find different ways?
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Because I agree with with Mike if you listen around
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: the league, and we saw it firsthand when we were
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: in Philadelphia last year Nick Sirianni all the Eagles, they
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: talked about they practiced a little bit less in an
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: effort to keep them off their feet, off their feet.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: It wasn't a very good team, found a way to
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: make the playoffs. Yea Eagles, Yeah, the Eagles. Um, I
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: remember that. People were questioning him right like is this
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: gonna work? Right? And I'm not telling you it worked
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: because they went like nine and eight, made the playoffs
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: and it's not like they had a great year, but
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: it's not a great team. First year coach, with the
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: first year quarterback in Jalen Hurts. They found a way
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: to win enough games and be better in the second
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: half of the season than they were in the first. So,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: you know, just anecdotally, you can look and say, well,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: maybe some of the ways they trained were more effective.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: And Mike is right. You hear this around the league
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: a lot. We're doing some things a little bit differently.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: We're doing less of this, that and the other thing.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: We're relying more on the players to sort of arrive
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: in shape and whatnot. And Bill talks about that a lot,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: like he's pretty I think he mentioned specifically about the rookies.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: He felt pretty good about the overall condition of the
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: rookies when they got for their rookie minicamp. And I
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: just wonder if maybe the Patriots are looking for different ways,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: because Mike is right, look at the way that they
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: finished the seasons, not necessarily falling apart in the second
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: half of games, but the second half of the season. Right,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: this is now a couple of years in a row.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: They haven't played their best football at the end. I mean,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: arguably their worst football this year this year. But like
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: you know, like okay, so right, what about all those
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: years that they did get better at the end, you know,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: I know, And that's and that's why I well, it's
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: talent in an opponent, Yeah, you know, like I think
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: it's it's easy to sit there and say, well, they
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: ran out of gas, they didn't play well at the end. Well,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: they also played Buffalo twice and in Indianapolis and in Miami,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: and they played some more difficult opponents at the end too.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: It was just the Patriots offense was like too slow.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: They got off so slow, and by that point the
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: defense is forced to get kind of what we're talking
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: about earlier. They have to get all these stops and
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: they're burned out. They needed the games to unfold in
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: their favor, and when they did, it was great, and
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: when it didn't they had trouble changing it um. But
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: one more piece I wanted to bring up to was,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: you know, Jude On saying last year that they squat
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: here more than anywhere else. So I don't know, I mean,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I always I want to believe that teams that that
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: work hard are going to be successful. I don't. You
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: don't want to say, oh, they're doing too much. But
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: it's just something about let me go back to that,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: he said they squat more. Yeah, last year. It was
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: something he could in other places, and he came from
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: the Ravens, right. You know, you would think if there's
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: a team that's in the weight room doing the heavy stuff,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: it's the Ravens, right right. It is interesting because you
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: hear I do hear a lot of newcomers come in
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: and talk specifically about the differences here. You know that
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: the work is a little bit different here. You remember
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Patricia try to have them run in Detroit and they
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: were like, wow, what are you doing? You know? So hey,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: I do think that they might do a little bit
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: differently and maybe even more than other places. I remember
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: back in the day, Johnny Parker was the strength and
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: conditioning coach and he swore by squats. He was like,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: you gotta do squats, squats of the thing, you know.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: And then he was Parcel's guy. And then you wonder if, like,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: how much of a holdover is it from john the
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Johnny Parker days? And then Mike wait wait White? Yeah,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: yeah he was then the next guy. He's still with Dallas.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: He's a Walpole guy. Oh really, Yeah, I didn't know that. Yeah.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: I think it was Westwood. Oh, Westwood, Yeah, okay, And
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: it was one of those ws look at you, hey,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: high school, high School, River I'm not, don't hold me
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: to that one, but I think it was west Yeah,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: he's a local guy though, Yeah, I think. Um, the
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: reason I knew that is Jackie McMullen. You know Jackie,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Jackie mack I do. She was from Westwood and she knew.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: She used to call him Mikey, okay, Mikey like they were.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: They were kind of friends. And then you know he
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: became a coach of the Patriots and couldn't talk to
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: him anymore, right, couldn't give her all those secrets to
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: strength and conditioning. Yeah, he was a guy that scary looking.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you didn't want to like he was
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: an intimidates had like a child. He doesn't talk, he growls. Yeah,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: they certainly have a type. Yeah, kids, But Moses is
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's a little bit outside the box. But
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, I just I wonder if
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: are you clinging to what you used to do? Well?
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, if I was the head coach, I would
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: insist that my head of conditioning look at all the
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: trends and especially what they're doing in college, because that's
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: where they do the R and D. You know, like
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: a lot of these schools research. You know, they look
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: at new innovation and techniques, and I'd insist that they,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: you know, stay abreast of all the new stuff. There's
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: so many new things. Like when I was at another Dame,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: they were like coming out with like different heart rate
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: monitors that they can wear during practice where they can
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: track certain things. And I was like, that is incredible. Yeah,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: I mean a lot of like you always hear like
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: people talk about like the old athletes and like, oh,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: you know, they wouldn't be as good today because they're
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: faster and well, they would have the same training that
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: these guys. They wouldn't just be doing curls. I did
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: my six sets of curls. I'm good to go, right,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: They would do what the modern athletes do. Do you
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: think that maybe, you know the fact that I smoked
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: two packs a day, you know, hurt me athletically, I
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: can in nineteen fifty eight. Yeah, like you just didn't.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: They didn't know, right, and they would have access to
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: all of the advantages that you have. Yeah, but I
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: mean to Tomorrow's point, even being at holy Cross just
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: as you know, I was part of that strength program
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: with the with the hockey team. But you know, you
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: just see how much it's changed what they do. I mean,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: the use of like rubber bands now like everywhere rubber
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: bands and um, you know, I think some of the
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: stuff stays the same with squats, I mean in the
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: in the cleans and that that kind of it's not
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: like sports anywhere, doing all the squads and you know
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: you're getting a good pomp up when you're um. But
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: it's just it's remarkable even and I always look like
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Mike Boyle be you, I mean, he's kind of like
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: infamous and especially in hockey but in sports in general.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: And you know just how much it's changed, even for
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: the cutting edge guys, how much more knowledge they have
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: now of um, you know, single legs stuff versus double
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Just how much that training has evolved over over the time.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: I'm sure that they're on the cutting edge of it,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: but you know, I just I do wonder if you're
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: if you're still kind of doing things the way you
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: did it, or is this you want I mean, I
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: want to believe. I want to believe that that the
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: hard work pays off and that if you're running in
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: squatting in June, it will pay off down the line.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I also just want them to finish and
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: look and look like they're playing their their best and
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: strongest football at the end. So maybe they were a
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: little related, maybe not at all. Yeah, it might be
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: some of that, but like I said, over the last
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: twenty years, you know, they conditioned, they did pretty well,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: pretty successful program, pretty well at the back half of
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: the So it's gotta be yea, mostly they just weren't
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: well the hill too, right, I mean the hill is
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: like a feature here that that that was like specifically
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: installed for that purpose. And when we were at Philadelphia,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: they ain't no hills at their practice facility. That's a
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: straight you know kind of I think. So it's it's
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: it's certainly ingrained and um you know. But but again
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: another point of it is that when they were run
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: at the start of practice, they were on the flat
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: the field. I've never seen that since I've been here,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: that they were running just doing sprints on the practice
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: fields and not down below up the hill where we
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: couldn't really see him. Yeah, remember before Serriani obviously at Philadelphia.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Chip Kelly came into the league and he did all
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: this stuff at Oregon, and so he tried to bring
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: that into the NFL, like the sleep and and all
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: that stuff. I do remember that. Yeah, but he didn't
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: last He didn't last long, and I'm assuming his program
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: didn't either. At least ten hours of sleep every night. Yeah, Okay,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: I think you're the bottom line is you're right, Like
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: if you have the players, you're going to succeed. Right.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: It's not like we did too many squads. So it's
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: not like the team. Yeah, it's not like the team
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: with the best players just said, we're so good, we
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: don't need to we don't need to condition. You know,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: just eat cheeseburgers every day, be like Parillo and just
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: be fat and not be able to run. But you're
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: so good you'll be okay. Like, no one would do that, right,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: you know, everybody conditions to some extent. Yeah, and then
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: it comes down to talent yep. And and friend's right.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: When they when they had the better players, they generally
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: came out on top. Yep. You know football began in November,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: and that's when they played their best football and had
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: a little bit to do with who they were. Yeah,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: you know, let's get back to that. Yeah, well, who
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: said we couldn't talk football? Yeah, conditioning. Mac Jones is
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: in condition right perfect. Yeah, although he's a better athlete
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: than you think too. That's what they telerated. That's what
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: they tell about. You could scoose what some guy tells you.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Some guy, some anonymous AFC scouts wisely didn't put his
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: name to that on the move, Yeah, throwing on the move.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: We're gonna bring back Texas as uh your wing tea.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: I'm curious how mac uh you know, he talked a
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: little bit last week. It is a has it availability
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: trying to get used to everything, the environment around here
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: and stuff. And I mean, I think Paul pointed out
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: right before that that Buffalo, that first Buffalo game. Um,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: it's like, man, he looks cold right now. And I
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: just wonder if if if you're really able to get
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: used to it, Like I don't know, I like Brady
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: never really had it. I guess San Francisco, Michigan maybe
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: a little bit, but he just always seemed comfortable in it.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: It's like he did play in bad weather a little
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: bit being well, but I mean, Michigan's not a picnic
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: in November, you know. It's it's there's something you can
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: like get used to and get better like you can.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: How many being in the Big ten games do you
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: see that there's not something coming down from the sky.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: But here's the thing about Brady, It's not like I
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: don't care what the weather is. He did to a
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: point where if you go to his locker, he had
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: his gloves and cleats labeled like for what the weather
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: was like based on temperature. Yeah, he would wear different gloves,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: different cleats, so he was very aware of what the
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: conditions were and he prepared for those conditions. But I
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: agree with Mike. I think it's more of a mentality. Yeah,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: and I think I remember saying that that night and
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: it was only half tongue in cheek. He looked cold
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, but he did look cold, even like
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen's stats for like when the temperature was like
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: under what was it thirty? Yeah, we're very interesting as well,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: considering he went to school in the Midwest and played
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: in the cold as well. And then yeah, no, it
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: isn't the cold again, so it's like that's why. And
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: then through for four thousand yards in a playoff game,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: you know, when it was like ten degrees up, he
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: just got another friend like, yeah, as friend says, I mean,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: I just want them to punt. Yeah, no, I know,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: I know, I just but it is I think it's
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: some kind of a thing. I think it's something you
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: have to get accustomed to. And with Mac, I go
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: back to when he spoke on the Tuesday, the first day,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: the Monday the twenty third, the first Ota and Tamarrow.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: You brought this up on the show about how we
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: talked about throwing in the off season in as many
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: different weather conditions as he could. That tells me that
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: it was on his mind, right, Yeah, right, That's why
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: it's as much about mentality as anything else it is.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: You know, it's a it is a a lot of
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: overcoming it mentally. Yeah, and there's there's different ways to
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: do it. Like Brady overcame it by recognizing it, acknowledging it,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: and preparing for it. Other people just I'm just going
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: to ignore. Yeah, I'm just gonna like pretend it's not cold.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: I mean make an argument that passing wise, just from
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: a pure passing perspective, his best performance his first year
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: was in the snow, and you know he through if
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: it three hundred and fifty four yards and throw it
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: fifty some odd times, Like I don't know if he
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: was thinking about all the different equipment that he needed then.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he had gotten the different gloves
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: if it was thirty two as opposed to twenty eight
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: like he did in his career. Yeah, I did just
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: think it's it's kind of a mentality and Matt you know,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: just because he didn't do great in bad weather last
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: year doesn't mean he never will. Yeah. And I also
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: think for a guy like Brady, where you're precise, you
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: know the routes, you know what you're looking at. If
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: it's a slippery game like a snowy game, I think
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: the offense actually has an advantage, yeah, because they know
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: where they're going. Sure, defense has to react, so if
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: you're on time where you throw, the guy's always going
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: to be open at first. I remember that game in
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Chicago that year. Um, it was like bad snow and
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: they just went up twenty ten with with branch sounds right,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: sideline sounds right right before the half. See that one.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: You get a little freak da game too. That's exactly
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: the game I'm talking about. It was down there at
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: the end of the half like they looked like they
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: were just going to run it out like a little
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: like fifteen yard pass, there's no one there banged. Yeah,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: it's like a seventy yard touchdown. Yeah. But they lit
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: it up that day offensively in the snow, you know,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: probably partly for what you were talking about. For Yeah,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: I act did pretty good. Um, you know, in the
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: in the rain light rain against the Bucks. I mean,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: he had a pretty good, you know, completion wise game
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: against them. But it's something he's going to have to
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: deal with. I just I just wonder if can you
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: get too much in your own head about that, Like
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: is it you know, if you think it's an issue,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: does it then become an is because you're thinking about it?
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: It's a you know, it's a mental thing as much
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: as it is physical. This makes me want to have
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: a college football playoffs in like Minnesota and genuine we'll
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: find out who the real football players are. And if
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: you think, if you look at all the national championships,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: they've been predominantly in warm places or in a dome.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: So it'd be interesting to see a school like Alabama
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: come up and play in the Midwest. Yeah. Well they
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: have those those destinations. It's not for the players, it's
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: for the fans. Yeah. They want people to come and
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: spend money and spend a few days that you do
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: the same thing in the Super Bowl. Yeah, it's oh yeah,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: I mean I want to see who in Minnesota. I
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: will see who the better mine is too, but it's
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: in the door. But I like, I want to see
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: who the better team is. It's not who the team
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: that handles the You've always been like that, you want
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: to start. I don't like. I don't I'm not a
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: huge dome guy. I don't love domes. But I'd rather
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: have a game in a dome than a game in
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: a blizzard. And I know ninety nine percent of the
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: people listening probably disagree with me. They love the snow
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: and the mud. It's what you find out who's got hot. Yeah,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: I just want to know who the better team. Yeah,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: the asterisk. You know, like the Monday night game in
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Buffalo last year, right, it like it was the Patriots,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Like the Patriots were better because you know, they scored
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: a couple more points in a day where you couldn't
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: throw the ball. Yeah. I would be more impressed with
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: that win. If they follow it up and beating them,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: then less severe. Well yeah, but you know when you
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: follow it up and they run up and down the
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: field twice in the next two games, you know that
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: the only reason why you won that, That's what I'm saying,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: was the condition, That's what I'm saying. And if that
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: was happening to be like the championship, like that would
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: suck to me. Yeah, yeah, you know what, you know
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, remember the game probably about seven
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: years ago. It was the Giants and the Packers and
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Coughlin was the coach. Oh and oh my god, I
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: felt so bad. I thought that that was eleven. I
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: think it was eleven, the NFC Championship, right, Yeah, I
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: thought it. Can we get frost bite? I really it
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: might have been the first one. It might have been seven. Yeah,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: it might have been over seven. Yeah, when he had
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: all the little splotches on his face, I thought he
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: was Yeah, I thought he was in trouble that because
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: you've you've played in cold, right, Like, It's not that
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: I don't care what anyone says. No one likes it.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: It sucks, especially your fingers. That's the first thing I
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: think I think about is I've never played in that
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: kind of fingers. That's different getting like, you know, smacked
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: on a helmet. My last every game was in a
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: in a snowstorm on Thanksgiving, but not you know, it
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: was probably like thirty degrees not you know, minus five, right, Yeah,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Usually when you get going too though,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: you warm up, like at least hockey wise, like games
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: that were like, oh, it's gonna be really cold holderness
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: outdoor rink in New Hampshire. Oh it's coldest day of
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: they Once you get going, you know, you don't even
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: realize it's that. I was cold on that Thanksgiving because
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: we blew them out and we didn't get to play
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: in the second half. We were just sitting around watching
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: all the young kids play. All right, eight five five
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: past five hund It is the A Sticket hotline. Web
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: radio at pages dot com is the email address. Let's
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: hear what people are thinking. We'll go to Christian in LA.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: What's up Christian? Hey, good thing you guys get to
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: hear from you guys and watching my subject matter going
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: on today. But yeah, let's get the football. Football football.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Sure have you guys actually seen um Tyclon Thornton run
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: any routes as far as his fluidity and uh stopping,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: stopping go. And then also, I'm really interested in this
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: um this running back Pierre Strong. I think his name
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: is just stroke myself. Yea, I really think he could
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: be a really suitable replacement for James Wikes considering his
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: big strength as I'm reading, is catching the ball the
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: backfield when he's got four something for three speed. That's
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: his big strength. Pierre Strong's big strength is his speed.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Um for thought. More into what I'm reading on on
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: the board on these college website here and also on ESPN.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: He's a hands guy. Yeah, his his colleague with hand
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: ok okay, yeah, I mean, well, Paul, go ahead, I'm good,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: I'm good. I read it on on the website practice field.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: He hasn't practiced. He hasn't really done anything practice yet.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: I think he's probably dealing with an injury. Seems like
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: it because he hasn't really been very involved. Yes on
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Thornton uh tall skinny, I mean it doesn't it doesn't
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: look like little quick areas stuff. I mean, I'm sure
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: he can run a little slant across the middle and
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: catch it. But I think you know underneath little whip
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: routes that kind of stuff. Edelman. Though I haven't seen
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: the change of direction. I haven't seen lateral quickness. I
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: have seen straight line speed though. Yeah, I mean as
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: advertised and sense of humor. I told you I found
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: him delightful on Tuesday, just delightful, like the question of
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: the day. But do we have any idea what kind
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: of offense we're going to be running. I mean, are
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: we gonna try to stick somewhat to the system and
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: just have someone those doing the plays? Are we gonna
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: just you know this news. I'm really confused as to
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. Is great new pieces we've seen
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: to have if we're not going to be running a
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: variation of our usual offense. I mean, I I think
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: you're it's still gonna be game plan what you know,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: go try to get the right matchups. Um, but like
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: who knows. I think you're still going to see a
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: lot of combination routes where you're looking to get you know,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: matchups and picks and you know that kind of stuff
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: that they've always relied on a lot of timing, you know,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: a lot of quick quick throws. I don't think you're
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: going to see like an overhaul of the offense. I
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: think it's going to be the same system right with tweaks.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Thanks for Mac Jones that that Mac Jones does better.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: And it's like hardly what would you say the Patriots
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: offense hasn't done? Like what don't they do? Like they're
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: a multiple offense, they do a little of everything. I mean,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: it's hard to say, like, if you're gonna say, how
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: is the offense going to change? I feel like it
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: would be dumbed down and simplified that that's the only
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: way to go. I mean we talked earlier, you know,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: when they brought in Randy Moss and that having Moss
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: gave you that option that you know, like to be
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: successful down the field. There. To me, there isn't a
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: player that they've brought in over the last two years that, oh,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: because of him, we can now do things that we
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: haven't been doing. You know, I think maybe you could
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: do them bet what you've been doing better. But like,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: there's no one that's changing the offense on this No,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: I would just say the only changes the full back
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: position that don't have one right now. Yeah, it seems
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: like the league is moving more towards a lot of
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: them pre snap movement and you know, uh sort of
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: speed speed based um routes and concept. We haven't really
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: done that a ton of Yeah, we do a lot
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: of pre snap movement. But I think what you're saying
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: is they have mobile quarterbacks. Is that what you're saying,
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: And that's not going to be there. We don't have that.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about I'm talking about like the casey where
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of sort of like you know, the
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: two guys move at the same time in the back,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: and a lot of speed based movement concepts. Yes, we
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: have done concept of the movement, but that's primarily been
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: for Tom to check the speedle doing but man or
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: his own Okay, talking about you know, so you're saying
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: that maybe you know, because they have Thornton and Pierre Strong,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: who are you know, sub four three guys or four
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: three guys, we might see more speed based things. I
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: don't know. I you know, I'm still the offense evolved
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: to to to the talent that we have instead of
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: like it's been before, where the talent has to sort
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: of fit into the offense. And that's been a problem
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: for us, especially with receivers, because we have had guys
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: with some with with actual physical talent, but it's been
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: that that thing, right, they haven't been able to fit
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: and get the offense. Can we still do you think
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: we can involve to a place where we're like looking
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: at out of talent and going let's just do in
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: every position with these guys, will I know? But okay,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: but look look at the Patriots offense over the last
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: twenty years, even including Cam Newton because he was out
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: of his prime and he was less of a mobile
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: guy than he was. You know, there's nothing. You still
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: have Mac Jones as the quarterback. The offense runs through
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: the quarterback. You know, the skills of your quarterback dictate
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: your offense. And so we're still looking at the similar
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: offense that they've been running for the last twenty years. Now,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: can Pierre Strong oh faster than James White? Maybe? I
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: mean I wouldn't expect Pierre Strong or Taekwon Thornton to
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: be major parts of what they're doing this year. Now,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: what you want is them to show development, show some promise,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: and then next year, when you know probably you're going
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: to be without like Agalore and maybe even Jacobe Myers,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: you have Thornton to replace, you know those guys and
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: move up the depth chart and you're probably without James
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: White and you'll have Strong to replace. As Christian said,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: you know that pass catching kind of a role and
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: you have that kind of speed. But I just don't
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: know how how do you identify pre snap movement as
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: not being speed based. It's just you know this, like, yeah,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: a million of them, and you know Kendrick Bourne was
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: was effective in that role last year. You want to
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: go back to what Fred talked about. They injected as
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: fast and wide receiver as you've seen in the league
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: in the last twenty five years. And Randy must they
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: still did the same concepts. It was still Welker underneath,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: but we're going to take shots downfield to an elite
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: speed guy. Like, yeah, I don't think you have to
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: overhaul the offense because you have some speedy guys. Now,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: what you hope is those speedy guys give you big
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: playability that you didn't have like Randy Mosky. Do you
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: guys think I never heard you stay this last season?
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: Several times we had covered the base on it that
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: we're at a place now with maybe a new coordinator
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: where where we will start using some of the younger
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: guys sooner who's the new coordinator? Yeah, that that argument
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: to me is on defense. Like, I just don't think
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: that they have like I don't think they've made I
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: don't think Thornton and Strong are going to be in
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: position to be major contributors. Do you probably? Well? I
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: think again, I go back to this thing, I hope
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: not because I hope, you know, Damian Harris and Stevenson
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: and James White are you know, leading the way. But
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: you know, if like if if pr strongestn't practicing already beginning. Yeah,
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: but I don't you know what I don't want it's
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: like more of that. It was, I hear you, Christian,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: But it was about execution. It's not like you know,
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: what they you know, uh did last year was different
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: than what they tried to do twenty years ago. They
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: just weren't as good at it. Yeah, you know, it's
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: what I'm hoping for more than Thornton and strong Is.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping that uh, you know, the four offensive guys
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: that they brought in last year, take those two, you know,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: that second year free agent jump and that Parker, Yeah,
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: and then and then Parker. You know, I'm hoping that
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: you get more out of those guys. Yeah. And I
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: think you're right about the guys that were here last
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: year that could be little bit better, right, And I
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: think Mac Jones is a big part of that. Ye,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: you need Mac Jones to be better, of course, right,
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: it starts with him. I think that's a big part
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: of it too, Just the continuity listen to agal Or talk.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Just his degree of comfort knowing what to do, having
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: experience doing it, not having to translate anything when he
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: hears it. You know, I think that's definitely worth something.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: But I do think Paul has a has a valid
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: point that we've talked all offseason about getting faster. How
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: many pieces on offense have you really added that are
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: faster that are going to play? Hard to say right
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: here in twenty twenty two. Maybe next year with Strong
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: and Thornton, but they may not be faster, but maybe
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: these guys can play. But I think no one where
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: to be right right. That's and that's a Mac thing too.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: That's a you know, again, every every time I catch
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: one of the games from last year when they're running
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: on the NFL network, I've got him enjoy just getting
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: another look at some of them. But you know, just
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: some of the mental mistakes, the pre snap stuff, you know,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: not getting not getting it off before the play clock,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: knowing the situation. I think he'll be better at all
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: those things. And you know, when you're not going backwards,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: it gives you more op timunical forwards. Horrific call they
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: just made on replay in that softball game. They called
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: her out. He ran straight to the bag and the
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: ball went right over her head. Like this was not
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: interference in any way. I didn't think it was either,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: Like she didn't know that the ball was going to
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: hit and she she wasn't out of the baseline. She
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: was right on the baseline, ran right through the bag
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: and the ball went over her head. Yeah. I don't
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: know how. I mean, I can't hear what they're saying
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: in commentary, but college softball show, yep, I'm here for
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: I had a friend who was a pitcher for softball,
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: and with that wind up and stuff, they actually measured
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: his arm and because he started pitching when he's about
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: six or seven, and it was about an into just bizarre. Wow,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: oh LinkedIn's arm. Huh. Actually they say that when it
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: comes to uh wear and tear on the shoulder, the
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: underhand pitch is more natural than over that that's why
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: you could pitch every day. Yeah. Yeah, Anyway, My big
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: thing is, you guys been talking about two thousand and
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: seven and previous incarnations of the of the team, and
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, with the evolution of the game, how
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: do you think that two thousand and seven team would
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: have done like last year or the year before with
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: the other high powered offensive teams in there, and especially
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: because I feel felt that our two thousand and seven
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: defense was a little suspect. It was about slowly, it
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: was all speed issues that that could be, that could be.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: But I think that offense you put against anybody modern day, yeah,
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: I mean they have every cool as long as the
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: offensive lines playing well. Yeah. See, that's kind of what
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: I want to get at, because I think I think,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: you know, a lot of people were worried about Bill
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: being able to move forward and keep up with the
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: pace of the game and the innovation and change, and
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: I think Bill was already there. I think Bill realized
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: that you if you can get your offense going, you
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: can win a lot of games. Yeah. Who doesn't know that. Yeah,
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that's still safe defense wins oh,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: in the in the NFL, I mean, I mean a
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: lot of people might say that, but look at the league. Look,
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: it's people who spout cliches like you got to run
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: the ball to set up the pass. You know, they've
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: they've changed the rules to favor the offense, and coaches
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: recognize that you know, oh, I agree entirely. So, you know,
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: I just again, every once in a while, you get
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: a call or in that just kind of decries, you know,
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: says bills outdated or something, and it's just I don't know.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: I think that even at seventy years old, he still
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: has a really good draft for the game. You can
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: see it, you know where he's trying to coach, where
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: he takes stuff over and it makes the difference. And
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: a lot of people, I think have started to count
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: him out just because they look at it. I can't draft,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: you can't do this, you can't do that. And I
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: think that if you give them another year or two
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: with this team, especially with the nucleus they got, they
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: could actually have a pretty good offense and you know,
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: a complimentary defense with you Bill, Bill, Yeah, yeah, I'm
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: going to set up an exercise that you guys can
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: do later in the show. I want you to give
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: me what you think the nucleus of the team is.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: You don't need to do it off the top of
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: your head, give it some thought. Maybe after we eat,
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: will come back from a break. I'd like you to
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: come up with what you think the nucleus of the
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: team is. Well, Matt, it starts with Mac. I said,
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: you didn't have to do it now off to not
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: allowed to talk about it yet. You can, but I
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: don't think you'll be I don't think you'll be coming
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: up with a ton of names. And I think it's
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: a great you know, I think it sums it up
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: that they haven't you had enough success with the young guys.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: They they've well, we'll hope, but this is right here
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: that you gotta find. Yeah, they we need these guys
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: to emerge. And now they're going to get a chance. Yeah,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: you know you're gonna get especially on defense, those guys
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: will finally get a chance. But I mean, it's it's
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think that question sums a lot of
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: it up. They don't have the young pieces you know
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: you can count on. You got to find them this year.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: You wanted to find some last year. I think you
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: did with Mac. That's a huge piece of it. I mean,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: arguably one of the biggest um bar Moore. But after that,
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: you know, and it's part of the reason why I
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: was kind of bummed about Jase Jackson. It's just, you know,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: as much as I didn't think that he was while this,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: you know, great shutdown corner that we have to have
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: to have when you can't retain players that you develop,
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: and it's just like I know that they have continuity,
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: but I think that there's something to be said for,
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: you know, drafting, developing, retaining, and that's something that guys
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: come in and they see that they and they see
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: how the process works. Not all right, we drafted that guy,
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: he was here for four years, or he was here
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: three years, then we traded him before his fourth year,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: or he was here four years, we got cold, we
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: got rid of him. Or take it a step further.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: We drafted this guy, we developed him, we gave him
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: a contract, then we traded him because we didn't like
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: the contract after a while. Like to Mike's point, I
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: think sometimes that I listen, I think that's a little
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: overrated because I think players are generally worried about themselves.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: But I do think that sometimes the message that sends
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: can be frustrating. But I mean, just off the top
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: of your head, when you look at like the nucleus,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: how many guys that oh to run home just as
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: they said, there's no offense. They're tagging this UCLA pitcher
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: and it should be five nothing too. But literally, the
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: nucleus is easy to say, Well, you know, I've been
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: on this and I know I'm a broken record. They're
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: not that young. The team itself is not that young.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: I don't think that they've done a great job of
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: sort of churning over the roster to like to Mike's point,
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: and I think you make a really good one with
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: jac Jackson, Like these are the kinds. This is what
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: I'm hopeful for, is that Bill is going to get
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: back to what he did. And I'm hopeful for a
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: guy like Thornton if he pans out replaces Agalore in
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: Myers and you have a player that can be in
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: the mix there and Pierre Strong can be That's what
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: they used to do. They used to have a guy
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: on the roster already to fill a big role the
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: next year. And I'm sort of I'm hopeful that that's
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: what they're getting too. But I think if you look
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: at the start, the projected starter is off the top
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: your head. On defense, would you say up front like
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: Lawrence guy gotcha? Yeah, I would say that they are
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: bar more and more Yeah, Okay, Dietrich Wise, Jude On,
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: maybe Perkins Bentley ucha uh yeah, I don't know about
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: the line, so I don't either. Maybe McMillan, let's say
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: McMillan is Maybe it's McMillan and mac wilson. So I
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: think just just like to prove my point just in that,
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: and I don't want to do it for the whole
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: entire roster, but just for that like front seven nucleus
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: guys Barmore and if one of those like young guys
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: pans out like a Perkins or an Ucha. Mac Wilson's
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: not part of your nucleus, Jawan, Bentley's not part of
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: your nucleus. Davin gotcha, Lawrence, Guy, they're not part of
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: your nucleus. Dietrich Wise, that's not your nucleus. Well no, no,
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: but I think that between Barmore, gotcha and Guy, that's
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: your tackle rotation, right, you know what I'm talking about,
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: So what's part of your future? Right? No, that's not
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: that's Baroy and he's young. Yeah, yeah, but I think
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: everything for this team right now is young players emerging,
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: and that's you know, dovetails back into the conversation about
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: high Tower and old guys in and we could revisit that,
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: say in November when Ouch is suddenly like has nine sacks, right, Like, okay,
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: there's a nucleus guy. Yeah, well Perkins is setting the
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: edge on the other side of Matthew Judean And you say,
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: this is a nucleus guys, second year, third round pick,
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: this is the way it's supposed to be. Yeah, But
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: then you're like, all right, another year uche and then
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: then he'll then go to then go to the secondary.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: You pick out your nucleus guys. It's it's you know,
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: it's at some point I think you gotta find and
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: then that's what you could really like Touchstone with the
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: early Dynasty teams were just Bruce Key, but Guinness, all
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: these guys who have been around for so long you
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: had such trust in them and are just feel of late.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: It's kind of a lot of mercenaries and a lot
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: of kind of spare parts put together. They got to
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: find that nucleus though. I think it's it's just I mean,
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: that's that's that's everything right now. A Rashad's in Baltimore,
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: Harashod Sorry, sorry, um, I was I was listening to
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: They Are um and watching this softball game, but I
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: had a thing about I hear people, you know, calling
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: about the offense. I just feel like I don't I
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: just feel like I don't hear enough of people calling
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: about the defense. And yeah, of course, I mean you
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: I hear y'all talk about you know, the no punt.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: You know, they did a lot of punt And that's
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: my that's the thing that I'll be griping on. You know.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: I know the offense is gonna take you know, jumps,
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: they even might take little steps back, but I think
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: the defense is the main thing that people need to
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: be talking about because it's it's a big issue and
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: not just for this year like the foot I mean
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: maybe for the next years on because the people that
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: we got in right now, I mean, are they gonna
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: be above rope plays? Like? Are they gonna be starters? Right? Well,
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: like I said this this year, I'm more concerned with
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: the defense than I am. And I'm with you guys too.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: I just don't want to see Mac and the offense
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: make some strides and wow, like has you know, really
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: show some strides gut getting better, but the defense can't
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: stop anybody and are given up like oh, you know,
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: like it's maddening that that's my nightmare for this season.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: Of Well, like Parcel said, each side of the ball
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: gives the other side hope, you know, And when you're
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: in that situation where your defense doesn't give you hope, yeah,
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: it's tough. Yeah it's tough, you know. And I'm not
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: saying that's going to happen this year. What about one
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: of your offense doesn't give this same thing. That's what
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: I was thinking. I'm like some games the defense was
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: really doing their job, but the offense was literally on
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: the field for two seconds by the end of the game.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: The defense, I think that was the bigger part of
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: the problem late last year, was that the defense would
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: would be put out there constantly in the first half
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: of those games, and you know, the turnovers were killing them,
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: the three and outs were killing them. I agree with
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: some arrow but I and that's true last year. But
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: I think this year the offense will be better. Yeah,
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: I do too. Going to improve over last year? I
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: think so too. How much, you know, how much is
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: enough to offset some of the questions on defense, that's
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: the question. But I think you're looking at Russia with
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: the same group, and if if I had the same
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: group but better, I think nucleus that's what I think
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: nucleus for the team is I mean, I gotta say Mac,
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: but if I had to go a secondary person, Kyle
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: Dugger is the only one that potentially is part of
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: your nucleus in the secondary, I mean Jalen Mills, Terrence Mitchell,
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler, Devin mccordy, Peppers one year contract but for
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: this year. No, But your nucleus is what you're expecting
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: to be like for five years. Okay, Like we have
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: these good young players that are going to develop together
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: and be good. Like they don't have a lot of those. Yeah,
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: Barmore is definitely one. Mac Jones is one. I don't
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: think they have a ton of them. Yeah, well, I
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: mean Stevenson could be Stevenson running backs, you don't Yeah right.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: We can always throw Kevin Harrison's to that because I
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: think Kevin Harris is going to be Okay, Okay, he's
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: my little uh, He's my dark horse that I have
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: a crush on. I think you liked Romandrea last year too,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: though he could I did, he could be, I did
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: could one two punch Yeah all right, thanks for Sean.
• 1:00:13
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure i'd make that case. I think I
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  Speaker 1: thanks Mike, appreciate the call. Um. I'm not overly concerned
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  Speaker 1: I don't have any problem with that. He'll just take
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: the day off that day. Yeah, No, I'll be here.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: I just won't really contribute. I'll probably make fun of
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: you guys. But that's that's good. That's a good contribution, though.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: But who talks about more nonsense than me? I'm I'm
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: the king of the non sequitors. Third episode, All we
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: won ellent excellent? Um, what was the first part of
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: that question? I would love to be surprised by Camera mcgron,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: but if he right now, my expectation at best is
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: that he is a special teams player. I can't be
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: surprised by him. I have no idea what he is.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: What what are the odds of me this year at
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: some point calling him Pat mcgron one thousand percent? Yeah,
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: I think yeah. And it's also not a bet that
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: Mike and I have any ability to win when you
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: can just say it. There's got to be cut off,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: and then he's got to forget about it, right, and
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: then we'll remind him. Andre from New Jersey got a
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: little beef with Fred and Paul and maybe Deuce. How
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: on earth you guys have no pencil in wins this
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: season with the Jets in the division. Regardless of what
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: they did in the draft and free agency, they are
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: still the Jets. I believe I penciled in the home
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: game against the Jets with the Bears and Lions in
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: the schedule. Are you kidding me? Guys? And I penciled
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: in the Lions game? You know better? There is four
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: wins right there. There is no way the Patriots losing
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: to those teams. Let's have some fun, Let's have some fun.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: Who is this? Uh? This is Andre from New Jersey. Andre.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: I bet you they will not go four oh in
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: those those four games? Yeah? What can we bet? How
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: can we try to make it parlay? How can we
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: make it fun? What can we do something? Uh? Andre
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: has to buy us lunch. If Paul's right and nothing happens,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, is there any way we could do play?
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: That's probably not a good bet though for us to me,
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: because we're obviously not rooting for them to lose to
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: the Jet. He says also fellas, what do you think
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: this team is going to regress from last season? Is
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: it the loss of Josh j Junior Jackson or the
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: unproven linebackers. I got them winning at least eleven to
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: twelve games. Okay, I have another bet. Now that's optimistic.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: I mean that's my high end, but I wouldn't feel
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: confident of that's to me, that's really really optimistic. Twelve wins.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: The rest of the conference all got it was like
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: the Celtics playoff run. Every other team got hurt. Uh.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: Also a couple of questions. Have you guys seen the
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: new season of Stranger Things yet? Absolutely phenomenal, best one yet.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: I think I have to watch that. Yeah. How many
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: seasons to that? Is there? Yeah? This is the fourth.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: I think I got through the third episode last night.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: I think it's good. I think the the middle two
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: kind of felt vaguely similar to the first one. This
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: this one feels very, very different, and I like that.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: I mean it's just you know, different, haven't started similar,
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: but but different. Everybody's kind of spread out, it's hill
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: making fun of the ages at this point though, Oh yeah,
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: you don't know who's what, like like like my sister Nancy,
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: she's working a job, but like she's gonna go to college.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: It's all over the map, all over the map. Um,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: I don't even know. Andrea says, I'm planning on getting
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: the NFL Red Zone or NFL Game Pass for the
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: first time. Which one is better and worth the money?
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: You want to watch all of two very different things.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: I love the red zone, but if you're interested in
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: watching entire games, yeah, after the fact, then the game
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: passes the thing. But I like the red zone. I
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: used to sometimes I'm game passed. They have the full
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: the full grid of all the games at once. That
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: was kind of fun to put on sometimes. But for
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: me personally, if I have a Patriots games and red zone,
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: I'm good. I agree, as I often do. Rozsie from
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: LA has a question. I'm not sure I know the answer,
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: to be honest, He says, what are all the things
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: Patriots coordinators like McDaniel's, Bill O'Brien, et cetera, were in
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: charge of. I presume these included teaching and installing the offense,
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: game planning, game tactics, play calling, getting the correct personnel
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: on the field, et cetera. How do you think Bill
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: will divide these duties up between himself, Patricia and Judge,
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: like like we're like, for example, I think at the
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: end of McDaniel's tenure, he was in charge of the offense. Yeah.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: I think Belichick was in charge of the game plan. Yeah,
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: and I think that will remain the case. Yeah. Yeah, Well,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: I mean maybe Josh had some input, Oh absolutely, but absolutely,
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: But I think Bill puts together the game plan on
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: offense and defense. I just think it boils down to
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: who's calling the place because otherwise it's a coordinator, Like
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: you coordinate everybody, You bring everything in. You're the one
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: who's making sure all the information from the position coaches
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: is coming in. You've got the game plan, you put it.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: So that's just kind of organizational stuff. Yeah, and that's
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: where the position coaches come in. Like remember the famous
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: thing with Malcolm Butler in fourteen, right it was Brian Flores. Yeah, Malcolm, Malcolm,
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: Malcolm go. Because that's part of it that like, this
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: is what the defensive coaches do. Yeah, Okay, we're in
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: this call. That means we need this personnel and everybody's
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: got to know that. Yeah, right, That's that's why, Like,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: as much as the offensive coordinator stuff is is you know,
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: definitely valid to discuss. I think it just comes down
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: to who calls the place, who's in the heat of
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: the moment having to make those snap decisions. Of course,
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: with Bill Belichick chiming in on, you know, generally what
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: he likes, but that that's what matters. I don't think
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: the day to day, you know, organizational Friday meeting, who's
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: you know, gathering all the information. I don't think that
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: they'll figure that stuff out. But I think the I
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: think the writer, I think the point of the email
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: is how much was consolidated in one person in the
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: past and how much now has to be divvied up
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: among more people. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I honestly
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: don't know the answer. But I mean, Josh, you know,
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: was the quarterbacks coach and the offensive coordinator, so I mean,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: you know it's he was doing both. Um. Yeah, I
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: don't know. I think they've got enough to figure it out.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: I think he's just gonna boil down to what I
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: think to Fred's point, though, I don't think there's gonna
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: be just one guy doing what Josh did now, like
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: I think, on paper, it looks like that will be
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: Joe Judge. He's gonna be working with quarterbacks and was
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: definitely involved with Mac Jones and the OTAs. But I
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: think part of that will be on Patricia, and part
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: of that will be on Nick Kayley, and I think
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: part of that will be on Bill. I think there'll
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: be more you know of your word collaborative than than
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: was the case with McDaniels. But Bill, I think will
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: be heavily involved as he always has been with game plans,
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: and other guys will be there to weigh in. Neil
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: and new Brunswick picking up on the High Tower conversation
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: from yesterday. I'd be neutral on signing or not signing him,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: but I do selfishly hope he doesn't play for another team.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: In his prime, he was an amazing player, never flashy,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: but just consistent. He plays in Super Bowl forty nine
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: stopping Lynch at the goal line and the strip sack
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: of Matt Ryan a Super Bowl fifty one. Both were
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: huge plays that were a big help to bringing two
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: rings to the Patriots. I'm curious where you'd think he
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: ranks at Patriots history, for example, compared to this year's
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: Patriots Hall of Fame nominees, I don't think he takes
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: a backseat to any of those guys. High Tower. I mean,
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: I think of him similar to Edelman in that there
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of production, and a lot of the
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: biggest production came in the playoffs, so you certainly have
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: to consider it. But okay, Vrabel versus High Tower to thee,
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: I don't really think it's all that close now, Vrabel,
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: I mean High Tower versus Wilfork. Wilfork, Okay, Like I
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: think High Tower was a really good player who wasn't
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: always available, and as Mike said, he was great in
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: big spots, which is huge, But I don't think that
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: as on a game to game basis, he was at
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: the level of those other guys. And like when you
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: said Vrabel, I think about Vrabel and oh five, like
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: switching positions and filling holes in you know, you saw
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen when they didn't have Dante High Tower.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, the team did fall off a cliff. But
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: you know, I think availability, the length of your career,
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: those are things to consider when you're stacking them up
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: to those guys like will High Tower get into the
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: Patriots Hall of Fame? Yes, oh yeah, yes, yeah, for sure, Yeah,
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: yeah he does. He belongs in the team Hall of Fame. Again,
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to start rattling off names of guys
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: that are already in, right, but who do you who
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: do you take from the from the second a second
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: three the site, like you know High Tower, Edelman? No,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: he's not in order, Well, he's more the first. Well,
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: he's kind of in the middle. I don't know who
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: else from from the second three Super Bowls? I mean Gilmore,
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: Gronk for sure, I mean Edelman, Gronk, High Tower, Brady
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: of course. After that, though, I think it sports to
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: get a little Yeah, he's gonna go in. This is
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: the problem, right, all right, this is the problem. Yeah,
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: we've got he's got it. Not that he wasn't like
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: and people say, oh you don't like record it. No,
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: he was a great Patriot. Now I would put a
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: high Tower before mccordy, Yeah I would. I would too, Yes,
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: I would too. But it's I mean, it's an interesting
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: comparison because I feel like mccordy consistent longevity over the
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: course of regular season games. Rock Rocks solid, but when
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: you look at high towers peaks, they're a little bit
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: more memorable later, and he's going in. He's definitely going in.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: I can guarantee it's in arguable he's going in. There's
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: no sense even talking about like it's twenty forty five
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: and who's Brandon King waves to the fans that the plot.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: I think all of those guys are, no doubt Hall
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: of famers, mccordy, High Tower, Welker, Edelman, Slater. Where you're
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: going to start to get conversations is you know, when
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: you go to the next tier down a little bit,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: you know, like a Patrick Chung or uh, Dietrich Wise, Uh,
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: you know, guys like that, like there's there's more of
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: a conversation to be had there. James White, that's a
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: good one. You know, talk about big plays in big games, right,
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: But you know, I would make an argument that James
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: White was probably better than Kevin Falk. But I don't know,
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: like I don't know that Kevin Falk should be in there, right, Interesting, Yeah, tough, Yeah,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: we don't have an easy job, Mike. I don't know
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: if you can talk, you know, every responsibility you couldn't.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: So here's but you know, here's another way to look
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: at it, and it's tough, but takeaway playoffs and just
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: look at their regular season careers. Nobody would Yeah, would
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: Kevin Falk be in? Would any of these guys? A
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: lot of them? Right, we're so you know, well, I
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: think Kevin Falk would have a stronger case as just
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: regular season than some of the other guys. But like
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: Julian Edelman had like some really good seasons in the
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: regular season. Now he's bolstered greatly by the volume of
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: catches in the postseason. Right, But I mean Edelman was good.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: But team Team Hall of Fame, Team Hall of Fame,
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: it's not even a question. I mean, what do what
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: do we do about? Are my apps? Brian in New Hampshire.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: I know it's OTAs but an offseason question. Here we
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: talk a lot about the best Super Bowl teams, but
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: I'd be curious to hear you will all rank the
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: best Patriots team that made the Super Bowl in lost.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: I'm sure O seven is number one one, but what
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: about the others. I was not around or old enough
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: to see the eighty five or ninety six teams firsthand,
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: so I'm curious about those two In particular, I would
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: put ninety six up there behind oh seven. Maybe you
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: could say the what's the year that they lost the Eagles? Seventeen?
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: I think seventeen ninety six really really good teams that
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: didn't win. I mean I'd go ninety six probably over
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: seventy two. But I'm bias. You don't like eleven eleven
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: was terrible. I don't think seven team was was much better.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: Probably offensively they were better, but defensively they were both
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: just dreadful seasons. Defensively, Um, how do you stack up
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: eighty five? Eighty five would be the worst? Yeah, I
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: mean they did get it was a magical playoff run,
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: but they just didn't have the same ability that the
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: other teams. Yeah, I mean, I'm by no means to
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: my an expert. I just feel like the best players
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: in the eighty five team were sort of passed their prime.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: You know, the hand is the Nelson's, the Stanley Morgan's,
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: the Grogan's. Yeah, like what about they were they were
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: kind of you know what I mean that they just
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: came to quarterback? Was Tony East right? That game over?
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: What about um Patriots teams that lost in the AFC
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: Championship so like the ranking those teams, like oh six,
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: oh six was a good team. They you know, thirteen
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: fifteen with the one that wants to uh was it twelve?
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: They lost a ball to Atimo They got smoked. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: I didn't think the two teams that lost in Denver
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: were all that good. I think fifteen was better than thirteen.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: Thirteen was fifteen was definitely better than thirteen. The thirteen
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: game wasn't really competitive. Yeah, in Denver, they they had
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: nothing there by the end of the season. Um that
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: the O six team, I mean, that's they kind of
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: squeezed everything they could out of that team. I think
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: they had won that game, they would have Super Bowl.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: The thirteen game in Denver was one of those Patriot
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: games where they got absolutely man had for sixteen minutes.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: Still Pots lost by ten. Yeah, but it was never
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: like you never really thought they had a chance to
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: win that game. But the Patriots just don't get blown out.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: That's I used to say that writing on the blog.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: I'm like, even when they get absolutely dominated, they don't
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: get blown out. Yeah, and they and I think that
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: was largely true for a long time until now. That's
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: what the next point was going to be Anthony, Connecticut.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: First of all, I am not here for all this
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: subway slander. I think I think you guys are wrong.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: It may not be the best sandwich out there, but
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: it gets the job done. It gets the job done.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: As for the Patriots, how realistic is it that James
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: White will be an actual contributor to this season? Love
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: the player and what he did, but can't ignore the
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: current situation. Plenty of younger depth on the team and
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: he's coming off an injury. Is there a chance he
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: calls it a career this summer? Lastly, there is a
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: chance of that. But I just would fight back just
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: slightly on what is the younger talent that we know of?
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: Like are we just saying that this is what Peter
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: Strong is like sight unseen, Like he's younger talent on
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: the roster? Right? Yeah? Like, don't these guys have to
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: do something before you know they established themselves? As I
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: think that there's larger point. I don't want to get
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: bogged down in semantics like I can do sometimes. James White,
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: I think, is a candidate to say, you know what,
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: I'm not bouncing back the way I thought It's not working.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: I think there's a I don't know what percentage you
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: want to put on that fifty fifty. Yeah, yeah, maybe
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: maybe pup and he they ease him back in and
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: then mid season he kind of comes back and maybe
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: gives them a boost that. I do wonder if he
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: might with him. I feel like if he needs, if
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: he needs that time Mike. I wonder if he just says,
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: you know what, it's just not worth it, forget about it. Yeah,
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: but I'm not willing to sit here and say, you know,
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: with all the talent Ty Montgomery and now, he still
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: don't hair strong like, I don't think they have anybody
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: anywhere near the caliber of James White. If he's right. Yeah,
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: Now I think the email has got it. I think
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: there's a chance in the summer we might be hearing
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: from James White. Yeah, I agree, But I also I
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: think too some of them Mack's best passes last year
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: where to James White. Now, the two in particular, remember
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: early you know up the sidelines, nice nice touch they had,
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: some they started to have. He would have helped a
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: little bit down the stretch. So we'll see. But yeah,
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not cementing him into anything. Just yet. Lastly,
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: has there been any talk about getting some PU apparel
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: or coffee mugs? That's easy. Coffee mugs. We should get
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: coffee mugs so we can have them in front of us.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: I could drink my diapepsia. We can get Doc Mcloude
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: to do a little illustration that we could put on
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: a T shirt. So we should get some T shirts done.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: Huh pu uh. Jack says, what about the tight ends?
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: He says, isn't it time for Devin Asiassi to be
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: a regular contributor. It's a good question. I mean, he's
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: they took him for a reason better at this point,
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: it seems like they just took him because they needed
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: a tight end and better chance he's a regular contributor
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: or not on the roster, not on the roster, Fred,
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: what's that better chance for this season? Devin a regular
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: contributor on offense, were not on the roster, not on
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: the roster? Yeah, I agree, I mean, I think I
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: agree with you both third tight end, third tight end.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: And it's hard to see him. I mean, I remember
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: the last spring he had I thought a couple I
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: thought there was some signs. Yes, last last summer, remember
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: you got off to the slow start because he was
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: COVID at the start of training camp. Remember he missed
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: the first like week or so. But then once he
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: started practicing, I was like, he was showing up a
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, he made he was looking I thought
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: he looked quicker. Um, and then all of a sudden
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: regular season started and he was never really to be
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: heard from. He's gonna need a hunter Henry or Jonas
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: Smith injury, I think, to get a shot, and I
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: think that's what it would take for him to be
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: a contributor. Yeah, uh, let's see. Jordan Appalachian, New York,
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: thanks for picking my question to read. Fred. A while back,
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: you were all discussing the popularity of lacrosse in Upper
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: State New York, and the real answer is why it's
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: so popular is because the Iroquois invented the sport and
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: obviously played it in upstate New York. I'm not sure
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: as to why it has remained popular well Canada really,
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: but yeah, people loved it. They loved it back in
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: the seventeen hundreds when they started playing up state years
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: close to Canada, so it makes sense it's just stuck around.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: Um then why not made anyway, I've got two questions. Uh,
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: if I was to make a day trip to Foxborough
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: for training camp with a pregnant wife in a four
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: year old, would it be fun for them? No? And
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: it wouldn't be fun for you, your pregnant wife love
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: the Patriots. I don't have a lot of experience being pregnant,
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: but like sitting out in the sun, you know, I
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: mean I think I'm four year old. If they're into it,
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: would have a great time. Yeah, I would encourage anybody
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: generally to go to train outstanding. Four might be a
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: little bit too young. I had kids, you know, brought
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: them a little bit older than that. They had great time,
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: and they've got all kinds of activities. Kids don't generally
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: want to sit for two hours and watch yeah, football practice, Right,
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: it's an unbelievable take is you know you would make
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: fun of me for being jaded all the time? Fred,
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: You've never heard me make fun of that. Like you
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: are literally feed away from the best players in the
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: world and you get a chance to watch it for free,
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: Like it's a great summertime. Take. Yes, it is. But
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: like Paul said, four years old, four years old, he
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: is young. He'll he'll be all excited about the stuff
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: you did before practice. But you get like an eight
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: year old and then you can get up by the
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: ropes and maybe get some autographs afterwards, some interaction that
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: you know, generally the players congre you know, they gravitate
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: toward the kids. Yeah, that's where I think you're talking
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: like priceless kind of experience. Yeah, pregnant wife though, pregnant
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: wife four year old. Yeah, I don't think that's where
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: you want to be. Maybe a few months pregnant, but
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: like if you're getting later on, oh imagine trying to
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: drag my pregnant wife there, she would not be out.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: I remember I got tickets to Game one the two
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: thousand and four World Series, you know, against the Cardinals,
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: when when the Red Sox finally won and I and
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: I got a bunch of tickets I got. I ended
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: up getting five tickets, and the idea was for my
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: wife to come. And she was pregnant at the time.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: She's like, no chance am I going into that crowd, right,
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: And she wasn't you know, it wasn't imminent. It was October. Yeah,
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: she was like probably five months pregnant, five and a
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: half months pregnant. Maybe at the time she's like, no chance, Yeah,
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: am I doing that? And she didn't. Yeh uh. Second
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: question is if the Patriots had three surprise transactions during
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: training camp, what would they be As far as one,
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: who would be the surprise signing? Surprise signing? I don't
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: know if that's a surprise, but I don't have a
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: sign We talked about line if Damien Harris, yeah, is
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: there another surprise? Well, then the surprise trade. Those those
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: guys I think would be surprised. The last year would
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: be we always say this, who would be the surprise cut? Yeah,
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: I would say the same all those like I don't
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: But are they surprised if you already know about I
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: know that's the problem, right, Well, that's why, like it's
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: easy to say Nikkio, Harry or Trey Flowers. I don't
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: really think that anything would be surprising with those guys.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: There's not a lot. There's not a lot of guys embedded.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: Like I was gonna say, Malcolm Butler, you know, tried
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: to come back, maybe just doesn't have it anymore. That's
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: a good one, dude, somebody who's a good I was
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: just gonna pencil him back in and yeah, he just did.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: He didn't have it anymore like somebody like that. Yeah,
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: I'll put Ty Montgomery on the surprise cut. That's a
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: good one too. Mac Jones, I'd be surprised. I know.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: That would take me a back. Yeah, I would be surprised.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: I mean that would take me aback. Uh. Eldred's in
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: North Carolina. What's up, Eldred? Good? Yeah, I've been listening.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: I just got a couple of questions. I'm concerned on
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: both side of the ball too, both sides, you know.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: But my question is to Fred yes and Paul, because
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: I hear y'all the most. You're not worried about the offense.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I didn't say I wasn't worried about
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: the offense. I said, I'm not worried about the offensive line.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: You know, we're about offense the first met Again, I'm
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: not opfully worried with the offensive line. I think they
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: have I think they have questions that receiver in quarterback.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: I'm less worried about the offense. I mean there's still
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know how Matt Jones is going to be
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: this year, you know. And that's that's the that's the
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: lynch pin. But I'm less worried about the offense than
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: I am the defense too. I think you can make
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: that argument. I think I'll worry about the offense at
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: least on the defense. You got them coordinated offense, do
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: you good? And you got who's the defensive coordinator on
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: this team? I don't. I don't know if you have
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: that answer on defense either. Well, if that at least
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: they've been working lonely with that side, you know, you know, yeah,
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: they a little bit more, that's true. Yeah, Yeah, that's
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: why I'm worrying. Matt and and who gonna you know,
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: had the receivers come out on the back or you know,
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: if you're getting the buying who who know what played
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: to call? What? Dude? You know that's what's worried me.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: That's me. Yeah, I worry about both. But I think
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: you can make an argument for Fred and Mike that
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: I'm a little little little less worried about the offense
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: than the defense. I think this is a great year
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: to show what Gerd Mayo, Steve Belichick really have. I mean,
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: these are you know, new players, These aren't the carryover
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: guys that they know. Yeah, credit, and I think they're
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: so short on talent, right right, Well, there's only so
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: much you can do. I mean, I connected into you know,
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: the drafts the last couple of years too. Can they
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: develop these young players? Can they bring in? I mean,
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: they've looked pretty good early in the season when you
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: had High Tower and Van Noyan Collins and the guys
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: who have been here, you know for a long time.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: But can you even get back to that level with
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: some of these new faces, guys like Ray Kua mcm
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: and guys who are you know, coming into this Patriot
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: system and all they know is Stee Belichick to Raw Mayo,
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: like you know, I do think. I mean, how are
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: you gonna know? The proof will be in the pudding
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: if these guys are able to come in and wow,
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: josh Ucha's really blossom here, I get it. With Ronnie Perkins,
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: those things happen, then credit to those guys. But but
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: that's what's got to happen, all right, Thanks, Aldred, appreciate
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: the call. So sticking with the softball game, Fred Boss
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: move just now like they had former Texas All American pitches,
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: She's I'm one of the legends. Got kat Osterman? Do
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: you remember that name from you watch some of this
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: softball stuff. I know, I don't remember. So Cat Osterman
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: was like April Finch. She probably Jenny she probably still
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: plays on the national Team's Cat Osterman. But she's you know,
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: a huge Texas um pitcher um, one of the greatest ever.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: So she's there and they just did a you know,
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: ESPN just did an interview with her. And as she's
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: doing the interview, she's signing autograss Little Girls coming out there.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: That's a boss move. Yeah, Like, I'm doesn't even any
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: of the later I got, I got you, Holly, but
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: oh here yeah yeah um John and Boston says. The
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: new season of The Boys premiers tomorrow. I will watch that.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: Are we going to get a recap of that show
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: as well as obi Wan? Yeah, I'll watch that. Which
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: the Boys Amazon, It's good show. What is superheroes? It's
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: but no, but it's dark. They're there. They're superheroes that
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: are jerks. Yeah, okay, I guess that's a good way
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: to put it. You were like you, you were like
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: you love the Boys. Yeah, you got me into it.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: I watched the two seasons. I mean, Homelander, that guy's
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: a psycho. It's good superheroes owned by a company, and
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: everything's just fake. All their actual heroing is you know
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: TV production. It's good. It's good, good drama, little nice
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: twist and turns and stuff. I'm invested. I just think
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: the writing is good, it's clever. Yeah, what's that fresh platform? Amazon? Amazon?
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: Amazon Prime? Yeah, yeah, that's worth it. I have a
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: couple of seasons. I'm like you, friend, I have it all.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: You'll need it this year, I added courts. Yeah, I'm
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: gonna be curious to see, um if I watch any
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: of the games on Amazon. Which, speaking of which, where's
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: the game that three play on the Thursday night that
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: will be an Amazon? Because not the Thanksgiving not the
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: Thanksgiving one next week? Is that in Buffalo or here?
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: I think it's here. It's here, Yeah it is, because yeah,
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: it's here, So no issue there. I was wondering, how
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: do how do we get that here in the in
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: the studio right right? Yeah? Yeah? If that's a road game,
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: how we're gonna have to make arrangements to get that stream? No,
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: but I thought that, um, it has to be on
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: broadcast TV on the in the local market. Just slowly, Yeah,
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: I think so, I think so, Okay, Yeah, just like
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: an ESPN. It's on channel five here right when it's on.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: But that's a little different. It might be because you're
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: not they're not paying exclusive rights to your Amazon is
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: paying exclusive right to be streaming. You might be right.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: Bruins games this year weren't right. Yeah, you might be right, Paul.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: If if, even if you're in New England, you might
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: be out of luck if you don't have Amazon Prime.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: So we didn't see it. We can't really talk about it.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: That would that'll be interesting if that's the case, let's see,
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: Anthony writes in he says Paul is right. The only
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: time subway can feasibly be consumed is if you were
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: forced to go to an event with the promise of
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: food being offered, and the only food offered is subway,
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: and no other circumstance should that slot be consumed. Hope
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: you aren't in the Eat Fresh studio. This coming from
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: a person to wait a two cheeseburger meal from McDonald's
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: for lunch tomorrow, was correct. That Firehouse is the best
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: hot sub chain is tomorrow from the Midwest. Well, she
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: did work at Notre Dame. She's been around. Yeah, from Virginia.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: I have only seen Blimpie in Michigan, and she's right
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: there as well, very solid, cold subs, quick game. You
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: have to make the decision today on these promising youngsters.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: Cut one, trade one, extend more. Oh I like it,
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: so cut one, trade one, extend one. Stevenson, Mac and
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: Barmoll Uh cut one, cut trade one on one, extend
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: cut steven That's why it's hard. Yeah, but that's like
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: I would extend Mac. I would trade Barmore because I
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: think I could get a lot for him. Yeah, I would.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: I'd have to cut Stevenson, you know, if if I
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: have to do it that way, I would extend Barmore
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: and trade Mac. But you think you get more from
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: Mactan Barmore. No, I think Barmore was a better player.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: I want to keep the better player. Oh, I don't know. Yeah, man,
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: it's I'm just going by. Quarterbacks are tougher to get,
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: though it is hard to get a great quote. I
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: agree with you. A great quarterback is tougher to get.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: I think I think the struggle with it is that
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: I think you easily could get another quarterback. Can you
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: get a great one that's different? Is he great? No?
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: Not in my opinion. Mike writes in he says a
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: video was released today. It's actually he wrote this in yesterday.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: So a video was released yesterday showing the QB girl,
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: Tom House working with Mac. From the small clip, you
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: can already tell the impact he made to Mac. What
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: advantages do young quarterbacks get from working with the likes
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: of Tom House? What could you tell? I did watch that?
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: What could you tell that he got from it? What
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: could I tell? The email? He just said from the
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: quick the quick snippet, you could already tell the improved like, well, what, well,
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: it's just what Max said. Did you watch it? No?
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: So I watched it, and you know, it was more
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: where the shoulders are lined up, and so he had
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: Mac throw a few balls and then he said, okay,
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: try this, and he had him just think about, you know,
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: the the alignment of his shoulders and you know, where
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: the direction of his whole body was going. He goes,
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: so that feels better, right, and Mac goes yeah, and
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: he goes, no, you know, maybe he needs to get
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: his shoulders and lined at. I know, well that's the thing.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: Like I did the profile of Mac last year, like
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: he's been working with a QB coach since he was
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: in high school. So you know, no disrespect to Tom House.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: But now it's all little tweaks here and there. But
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: is anybody gonna like be that guru that transforms you?
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: And I mean it's just it's doesn't need a transformation now,
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: he just needs he just needs a little more venocity,
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: a little bit more velocity, you know, like little things
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: like that, just to make him a little bit better. Yeah,
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: And I and I think too with Mac, Like you know,
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: I talk a lot about I think people really discount
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: players improving. Like I think generally people like, that's what
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: you were, that's what you're gonna be. I think for
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: a player like Mac, experience seeing it so much of
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: it is mental for the quarterback position. But I think Mac,
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: especially the more experience he got last year and this
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: offseason and all those things with just seeing different looks
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: all that, just the experience I think is really what's
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: going to help him the most. All Right, We're gonna
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: wrap up a little early today, Yeah, Like let everyone
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: go early. So I want to thank everyone for listening.
• 1:50:06
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• 1:50:11
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• 1:50:15
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• 1:50:17
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• 1:50:21
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