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Bidding On Cards Against Friends!! · Sports Card Clubhouse

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  In our massive country, there are card collectors throughout
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  the land participating in the hobby.
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  There's Mike of Junk Wax Hero and Greg of Midlife cards.
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  And while distance may separate them, here is where they come
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  together to talk cards. Hey buddy, how's it going?
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  And well, happy Thursday to you. But this is probably people will
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  hear us on Saturday or Sunday or Thursday or I don't know but.
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  How are you doing? Great.
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  Back to work this week after had a week off and yeah, I mean, you
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  had two weeks off. I did.
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  How was it getting back to work? Oh, it was brutal.
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  It was absolutely brutal. We have all new students when we
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  come back and, and the first two weeks with new students is
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  completely exhausting if you run your classroom the way I do.
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  And so I literally just feel like every day for two weeks, I
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  feel like I got hit by a truck. So it's all good though, because
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  I'm going to cap it off next weekend, not this weekend.
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  So I don't know when people hear this, but going to Disneyland.
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  So that'll be relaxing. That's awesome.
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  Not really relaxing, but it'll be fun, yeah.
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  That's great. Yeah, So let's see any big news.
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  I just heard that for collectors secured a great location for
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  trade night of the Strongsville show and Chris from Missouri has
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  secured like the if we want I'm I'm still calling it
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  Strongsville, but and Chris from Missouri security great location
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  for the hangout on Friday night of the show formerly known as
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  Strongsville. That's great.
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  I'm looking forward to it. I fully intend to be there.
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  It's going to be fun. So what we decided for this week
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  was you were going to surprise me with a couple of questions
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  that I'm not prepared for, and I was going to do the same for
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  you. And then just see where things
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  take us. I, I, it's fun for me to pick
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  other people's brains on what their opinion is on different
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  things. And so that's where we're going
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  to go. So do you want to be the asker
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  first or the answerer? First, yeah, dueling questions.
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  Not to be confused with dueling banjos.
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  No, no dueling banjos if you've ever seen that movie.
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  Little sketch, yes. It was a great movie, though.
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  Yeah. So I would actually like to
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  start with something that you surprised me with this week.
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  In in a text message you I said. I mentioned having a peanut
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  butter and fluff sandwich. Oh yes.
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  And you had not only never had one, but you've never heard of
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  fluff. Is that right now?
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  That's correct. I've never.
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  I've never heard of Fluff. Adam of Splendid Sports quickly
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  sent a picture of Fluff and and I I must say that right off the
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  bat it it looks just right up my alley.
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  Like I don't, I don't know what it is, but I know I like it even
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  though I've never had it. So do you want to explain?
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  Is it just marshmallow? It's it's spreadable
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  marshmallow. Yeah, that is just.
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  And so you put on some peanut butter and then you put on some
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  marshmallow and you have a peanut butter and fluff
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  sandwich. And then if you really want to
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  get fat, which we do, of course, you put in a little chocolate,
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  like a Hershey's syrup in the middle, man.
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  What about banana? Any banana in there?
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  I wouldn't, no. Well, we could out in
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  California. We have a like a high end
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  chocolate company called Sees Candy.
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  I think it's a California thing. Have you heard of Sees?
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  SEA No. No, no, SEE.
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  It's like misses sees. I feel like I've seen it, but
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  no. It's sort of like a Godiva or a,
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  you know, a Geargelly or that sort of thing.
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  Anyway, they have all these different chocolates with all
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  these different concoctions of things and my go to is called a
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  Scotch mellow, which is caramel, a layer of caramel with a bigger
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  layer of marshmallow covered in milk chocolate.
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  And it's like, it's my, I mean, my for Christmas, my brother got
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  me a pound of it of. Just.
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  That one and so I am a marshmallow guy.
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  Yeah, Well, Fluff, which is short for Fluffer Nutter,
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  Fluffer Nutter is, I believe it was invented in Maine and it's
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  mostly a northeastern thing. So I wasn't surprised at all
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  that that Adam has heard of it and and knows it and probably
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  has it. We, I don't have it very often.
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  It's pretty rare, but we always have some in our in our cabinet.
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  If we make fudge, we're making fudge with fluff.
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  It's amazing, you know, the occasional sandwich and it
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  doesn't really go bad. Wow.
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  I mean, it's like a it, it sounds perfect, quite frankly.
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  So I know what I'm getting you for, Strongsville.
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  Fantastic. OK, so back to the question.
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  Do you wanna ask? Do you wanna?
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  What do you wanna do here? I'll, I'll, I'll start.
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  Yeah, OK. Go for it, bring it.
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  So you I have some autographs I know you like to TTM and you're
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  buying Goonies autographs. How important is it to you that
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  your autographs are authenticated by a reliable,
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  reputable third party authenticator?
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  Oh boy, that's a really good question.
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  So how do I answer this when I buy?
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  I have bought autographs that I believe to be real that I sent
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  to 3rd party authenticators which came back not real and I
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  believe that the authenticator was wrong.
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  To be honest with you, I have also bought a lot of
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  authenticated ones. I feel like I've had enough
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  instances where a card came back as not authentic that I just
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  assumed buy it authenticated for the most part now.
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  But at the same time, like so our our friend Tony, Southern
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  collector 14, He, he's got a good buddy Tim, who's just an
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  awesome guy. I, I don't know if you met Tim,
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  he was at, he was at shoeless Joe's the night that we hung
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  out. So Tim and his dad used to just
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  go autograph hunting and they would just go to shows and drive
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  all over. And he he had like a Rodger
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  Maris autograph that he got in person and it came back as not
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  authentic from PSAI mean he was there.
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  So there there is that element. So I haven't haven't shown.
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  I mean, when this airs, this will come out, but I'm going to
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  grab something real quick. So 5 seconds of dead air.
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  Or you could just pause it. Pause.
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  It. Yeah, you just pause it.
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  Click on the pause. This one came yesterday.
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  This is my Mikey Sean Astin autographed Goonies card. 1985
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  Goonies, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  It's 85. I didn't know if the card was a
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  different year, but yeah. So I now have, I now have the
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  whole, I have the main four. Yeah, eventually, yeah.
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  Yeah. So that was yeah, it, it does
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  matter to me. It does because the way I see it
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  is they will make more mistakes saying that's not authentic,
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  then it is authentic when it's not.
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  I think that the companies will lean on, they will air on the
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  side of caution because if let's just say that hypothetically,
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  you and I had some autographs and we wanted to fake them and,
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  and we make a video of ourselves signing them and then we send
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  them into PSA and they get through and they come back as
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  authentic. And then we go, ha, ha, look at
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  us, we exposed you. We have the whole thing on tape.
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  Like that would be really damaging to them.
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  That would be really damaging. So I, I genuinely feel like
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  their accuracy rate of saying yes is really high.
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  I think their accuracy rate of saying no is much lower.
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  I think there are a lot of authentic ones that come back
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  unauthentic or inauthentic. I don't know what the right term
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  is versus the opposite. So I do I do lean towards wanton
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  authentic 1. I my chunk auto is not
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  authenticated, but I have the how do I say this?
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  I I have what is the the series of steps of who's owned it,
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  whatever. The provenance.
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  The provenance of the card was signed at a show at at a private
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  signing. So I know it's real, even though
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  I don't have it authenticated yet, but I'm probably going to
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  send it in just because I feel like I don't know, I, I kind of
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  feel like I should, even though I, I don't necessarily need to.
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  So let me spin it around and ask you, what do you think?
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  Yeah. First of all, I don't think PSA
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  is saying this is not authentic because it says questionable
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  authenticity. I think what they're saying is
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  we can't authenticate this. We're not comfortable
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  authenticating this. And I bet that there is a
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  significant chunk of those questionable authenticities that
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  they know are fraudulent, but they're not going to come out
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  and say that. They will just say questionable
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  authenticity because there are some of them.
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  You see a lot of people who had in person like you're like the
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  example you cited and PSA says this is questionable
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  authenticity. We can't authenticate this
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  because it doesn't come close to any of their, what's the word,
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  exemplars for that person. Now for me, I did a lot of TTM
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  for a couple years, 22 and 23. And those ones, I don't really
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  care about getting them authenticated.
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  I will at some point I'll do some, I mean, I'm, I'm going to
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  start chipping away at some of my old autographs through
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  CGCJSA, but it's, I like buying already authenticated
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  autographs. Now I went through a phase where
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  I was only buying them that raw unauthenticated, but now I do
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  this way, you know, it's, I don't know it, it's easier for
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  me because then I don't need to send it off to get authenticated
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  at some future date if I decide to sell, which you know, if you
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  if you want to sell your cards. We're always we are good friends
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  with Chris Sewell and you should he sponsors service issues.
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  He wants your collections. You should reach out to him at
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  sewellsportscards@gmail.com. If you're interested in selling
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  part or all of your collection, e-mail him the his e-mail
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  address is in the description to this video or podcast.
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  Or you can go to sportscardclubhouse.com.
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  And what is the link partners or something like that friends.
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  It's partners. Yeah, and reach out to him,
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  offer him your collection. He'll give you the fairest deal
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  imaginable. Sewell, sportscards@gmail.com
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  And in fact, my episode this weekend, which will come out
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  before this, actually, but I'm recording with Chris again.
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  Two weeks in a row with Chris. Well, Chris is fantastic and his
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  episode last week, I listened to it finally last night, I'm
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  always a little bit behind on, well not always, but I'm usually
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  a little bit behind. And his episode about dealing
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  with the guy who got back into the hobby and was buying into
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  breaks and was opening wax and I was trying to sell this stuff.
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  It is devastating and and I've always really liked Chris, but
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  man, I like him even more after listening to the way he handled
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  that whole thing. What a good dude, man.
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  Hey, while we're on this kind of self promotion thing here
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  promoting Sports Car clubhouse, you recorded a podcast only
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  episode with Ash that I listened to Tuesday afternoon, hours
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  after it came out on my drive home from work.
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  And it was fantastic. I had never talked to Ash
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  before. I've been to his table.
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  He's an amazing, this booth, I should say, at the National.
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  I'd never talked to him. I've never even heard him talk
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  before. And what a smart, charismatic
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  dude. I, I would listen to that weekly
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  if you guys wanted to do that. I thought it was really, really
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  good. Well, I appreciate that.
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  And, and, and I'd had him on the channel a couple of times
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  previously. In fact, I was first introduced
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  to him about this time, 2024 through a mutual friend.
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  And, and he came on and, and the first time or two he came on it,
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  you could tell he was like, well, I don't really know who
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  this guy is and I'm talking to you.
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  So he was a little bit guarded. And then, you know, he and I
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  text a lot. I mean, we're, we're very
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  friendly and he's like, let's do that more regularly.
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  And I was like, OK, he's like, what about like once a month I'm
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  like, let's do it. And so for the last like 2-3
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  months, we've been talking about doing it more regularly.
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  And, and, and again, I, you know, I've spoken to him on the
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  phone many times. We've texted many times in
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  person many times. And so I wasn't sure if he was
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  still going to be kind of guarded.
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  So I was kind of like, well, we'll see how this goes.
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  And dude, he just let it RIP. Like it was really, he was
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  really good. In fact, he texted me this
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  morning and he said, has there been much like feedback or any
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  comments? And I'm like, well, we we agreed
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  that we would do this as a podcast only.
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  And podcast only doesn't really have a lot of comments.
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  It's it's more of a listen like you're listening to the radio.
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  It's not like AI mean there there is a way to comment, but
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  it's not really something that people do.
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  So like there hadn't been. But anecdotally, I had a lot of
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  people say that was really interesting.
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  So I appreciate that and I will pass it on to him.
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  But yeah, we're, we're planning on doing that about once a
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  month. And then I'm, I'm going to try
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  to do a second podcast only because I've mentioned this many
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  times to you. I love what we're doing right
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  now. I just recorded with Mike
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  Moynihan earlier in the week. I recorded with Darren earlier
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  in the week and and this is my favorite thing at this point.
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  And and I know that this doesn't get crazy views, like my views
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  are down. The last six months are the
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  lowest my views have been in two years, but I enjoy this more.
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  And so if I was, I mean, when people say, Greg, you're click
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  bait, I'm like, you're crazy. Although I did, I did have a
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  video today that said I'm selling my cards, which was the
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  title of an episode with Theo on the CIA auction because I have 8
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  cards on the current CIA auction.
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  But yeah, I I'm not, I don't think of myself as a click bait
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  guy. But anyway.
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  So I appreciate the kind words. Very nice of you.
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  OK, so here's my question. I my first question back to you
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  for dueling questions. So the banjo has been playing.
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  Now it's guitar time. I you're the banjo, I'm the
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  guitar. I, I've had a lot of people over
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  the last week respond to some of my thoughts about Strongsville
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  and I've heard some other people return respond to some thoughts
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  about Strongsville. And a lot of people are saying I
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  don't understand how the YouTube community is upset about
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  Strongsville being changed or different or whatever, because
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  you guys are the reason it changed.
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  So my question is, and, and I can read, I have a comment
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  queued up if you want me to read it to go further into this if
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  you want. But do you think that we ruined
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  Strongsville, the YouTube community?
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  Well, ruined it, I think is a little bit too strong of a word.
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  You found something that you loved.
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  I should say we even though I've never been before until
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  hopefully three months from now, you found something you loved,
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  you promoted it. You said this is awesome.
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  And then it became corporate because it was it became so
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  popular they it outgrew the location it was at and probably
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  became an appealing merger target for this.
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  I don't know. I assume this other show is much
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  bigger. And yeah, I think that that is
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  definitely a valid point. But I don't think there should
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  be criticism. Are they criticizing the YouTube
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  community over it? I don't necessary.
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  I mean, I want me to read the comment.
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  It's. Let's read it.
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  Barely lengthy comment and and I will say this, this is a friend
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  of mine. This is a friend of mine who who
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  left this comment. He is anonymous to the YouTube
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  world and he's nobody would know him in this community or people
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  but some people. Anyway, I'll read it.
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  It's fairly lengthy but here we go.
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  With all due respect, Strongsville was pretty darn
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  awesome pre YouTube convergence. As a collector that traveled
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  2000 miles to attend to pre 2024 Strongsville shows solo and with
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  one of my sons, the Strongsville show was pretty darn near
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  perfect. It was gritty, old school, raw
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  and relatively sleepy with incredible dealers in terrific
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  vintage. Hall of farmers mingled with
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  collectors. In fact, I had the pleasure of
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  driving a Hall of Famer to the airport early one morning.
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  The people were great and it did not require the presence of
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  Youtubers to make it special. It was held at the hotel in the
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  ballrooms. That changed in 2024.
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  I met Mr. Petty and Darren that year and really enjoyed that.
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  Terrific people. But the horde of Youtubers
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  really changed the vibe. You've all seen it.
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  How many YouTube videos yapped on and on about it's only 100
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  days till Strongsville, almost Strongsville and the frat house
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  vibe at Strongsville. Those videos got clicks.
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  Hurray for monetization. But it was overhyped by many who
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  had never even been to Strongsville.
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  In 2024 the clown cars descended and it changed in 2025.
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  I hear it's was really something.
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  For those of you who are feeling displaced and or griping about
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  it. How many of you came for the
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  first time in 2024 or 2025I recall Crystal Missouri in 2023,
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  the pre YouTube version of himself.
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  But honestly not many of the come lately guys knew what the
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  show was all about, had never been, and are making this about
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  themselves. For those people, you are the
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  reason the show changed. Before feeling too sorry for
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  yourselves, imagine how the pre 2024 Strongsville attendees
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  feel. The promoters of the show are
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  not to blame. It got too big and too
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  corporate. YouTube is a big corporation
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  too. I love that comment, the passion
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  and this person is not name calling.
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  It's a very well thought out, very passionate comment and that
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  I love that comment from whoever that is.
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  I think that there are a lot of valid points there, but when you
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  love something and it grows, that's just kind of what's going
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  to happen. And I think for me, I've never
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  been before. So I, I've never promoted
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  Strongsville. I've never had a video about
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  Strongsville. But I, I wouldn't even be mad at
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  the organizers if they had let the YouTube community, let the
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  vintage community, past attendees know that they're
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  moving it and give a little bit more time.
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  There are a lot of people who had hotel rooms, including me,
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  in Strongsville, and what if we hadn't been able to cancel
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  those? Yeah.
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  And we had to eat the that money or stay in Strongsville and then
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  commute. I think it's like 30 miles into
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  Independence. Do you?
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  Do you follow Dave Portnoy much? No.
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  So Dave Portnoy of bench clear, not bench clear.
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  I know who he is. What is he?
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  What is his show is? What are they?
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  If you hadn't said bench clear I'd I'd have it.
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  Dave Portnoy. I don't know why my rant is.
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  Presidente He's. Presidente too.
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  Much of a loudmouth. For me, barstools.
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  Barstool Sports. Yeah, I he.
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  Has he has he has this thing he does it's it's pizza reviews yes
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  and and I. He's been into, he's been into
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  Maine a few times and it's a big deal when he comes into Maine.
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  Oh, I love his pizza reviews like they're, it's just, it's
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  entertaining, they're funny. They're he's he's very raw in
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  his takes on it. I enjoy them.
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  Some people I know hate them. I find them funny.
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  So when they come across my TikTok feed, I watch the whole
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  thing. And what he does is he goes to
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  different pizza joints and then he reviews it and and there's so
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  much of A following and so much of A following of what his
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  opinion is of a pizza place that if he gives a place a good
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  review, the place is slammed for months.
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  And imagine being the guy who loves his local little pizza
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  joint and has been going there every Thursday afternoon, you
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  know, after work and gets his pizza and his beer and he loves
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  it. And then Dave Portnoy shows up
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  and Dave Portnoy goes, this pizza is the best pizza I've
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  ever had. And then that guy can't go back
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  to his pizza place. That's kind of in, in not kind
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  of that's basically what happened.
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  And so you don't think we ruined it?
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  You think we changed it? Well, I think it was ruined for
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  that person and anybody else who was passionate about where it
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  was and how it was. But yeah, I mean, the the change
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  is definitely due to popularity, increased popularity, which was
• 24:38
  brought on by the YouTube community.
• 24:40
  I I agree with that person in a lot of ways.
• 24:43
  Yeah, I do too. I do too.
• 24:45
  And, and my response was that, and then I texted him as well.
• 24:52
  I said, I agree with you. In fact, I went on Mike
• 24:55
  Moynihan's channel for the first time in two years this week.
• 24:58
  That video posted today. And I said almost word for word
• 25:01
  what your comment states. The YouTube convergence on the
• 25:05
  show changed it and is ultimately responsible for its
• 25:08
  changing. I, I can't disagree with it.
• 25:12
  I, I, I, he's dead on. And, and it is well written
• 25:15
  because he's an insanely intelligent person.
• 25:20
  OK, so we've each asked one question.
• 25:23
  Your turn for question number. This is actually pretty fun.
• 25:26
  I like this question #2 from you.
• 25:29
  Yeah, so this is a real life example and you're going to
• 25:31
  recognize it immediately, but this is something that I've been
• 25:33
  thinking a lot about. So you have been looking for a
• 25:37
  card for three years. It is a grail for you.
• 25:41
  There are only 30 of them graded.
• 25:43
  I already know what it is. Yes, yes there are. 30 of them
• 25:47
  graded among the four big. Graders are there only 30 really
• 25:51
  at this? Point it's been weeks since I
• 25:53
  looked but I I'm pretty sure it's in the 30s.
• 25:55
  Oh wow, I did, but. This is random.
• 25:57
  This is not that specific. Sure, sure, sure it is, of
• 25:59
  course. And it comes up your your eBay
• 26:03
  alert hits and there is that card and it is a stunner.
• 26:08
  It's it's the perfect grade for you.
• 26:11
  It looks amazing and you text your group, your your one of
• 26:17
  your friend groups of hobbyists and say, here's my card.
• 26:21
  Hypothetically, here's my card. And somebody else says, holy
• 26:26
  cow, I've been waiting for that for years too.
• 26:29
  And I already hadn't had it on my watch list as soon as it
• 26:33
  popped up this morning. Here's why I went.
• 26:36
  Hypothetically, it popped up the previous night while the other
• 26:39
  person was still sleeping. But hypothetically.
• 26:42
  But go ahead. And then you that that person
• 26:45
  says, here's why it's so important to me.
• 26:49
  And you think, what do you would you rather have?
• 26:53
  The card that you've been waiting for years or the
• 26:56
  friendship? Because you can't have both?
• 26:58
  Oh, are you saying that our friendship was put into
• 27:01
  question? Here, No, what I'm saying is if
• 27:05
  I, if I had bid on that card, knowing how important it was to
• 27:09
  you, I wouldn't be able to live with myself.
• 27:13
  Well, that's a little extreme. No, I don't think so.
• 27:17
  That's just the way I am. I as soon as you texted back
• 27:20
  saying that's I'm watching that card.
• 27:24
  It's been super important to me for years and here's why.
• 27:28
  I was like poop, I'm out. OK, so hypothetically.
• 27:41
  Let's just, I mean, I, I don't want to expose the card yet
• 27:44
  because when this podcast drops, it's the same day my video is
• 27:47
  going to drop. So if you're listening to this
• 27:49
  also, and and it's on Saturday the 10th, I can't January.
• 27:54
  I have a video that came out today.
• 27:57
  And as I recorded the video, which I did last night, I
• 28:00
  recorded the video last night about the addition.
• 28:03
  I was holding back tears as I, I mean, it's a really, I mean a
• 28:09
  really important card to me. I, I, first of all, I think that
• 28:20
  bidding on a card that I'm an analogy guy.
• 28:25
  And so the instant analogy that comes up to me is when you're in
• 28:32
  high school and you and your buddy kind of secretly like the
• 28:36
  same girl, and you both have your eye on this girl.
• 28:41
  And your buddy says, hey, dude, I think I'm going to ask her
• 28:46
  out. And you're like, that's the girl
• 28:48
  I was going to ask out. What do you do?
• 28:51
  What do you do in that situation?
• 28:53
  Do you step aside? Because I had multiple times, I
• 28:57
  had that situation before. And what I always did is I
• 29:02
  always stepped aside. I always stepped aside.
• 29:06
  I think that it depends on the look in the person's eye.
• 29:10
  Like if the, if the look in the other person's eye for the card
• 29:14
  is, is you can tell that it's greater than your own.
• 29:18
  You, you, you look and you go, this person wants it more than
• 29:23
  me. So I'm going to, I'm going to
• 29:26
  step to the side on this one. If the person, they like it and
• 29:32
  yeah, they've wanted it. And yeah, this one popped up.
• 29:35
  I think that's a little bit different.
• 29:38
  Definitely don't bid against your friend.
• 29:42
  You, you have to, you and your friend have to decide who's
• 29:46
  going to go for this one, because otherwise, you know,
• 29:50
  it's like, it's like the Fonz and Richie going for the same
• 29:55
  girl and it's not really all. The Fonz here.
• 29:58
  Of course, you're the Fonz. So I think that I think that you
• 30:05
  just have to read the situation on, on, on where each person's
• 30:12
  heart is, Is this a card that they would really like or is
• 30:17
  this the card that they really want?
• 30:23
  The funny thing is though, that this is this is not the first
• 30:27
  time this has happened with us at the National.
• 30:31
  There was the Cy Young. Now that was a lot different,
• 30:34
  like that was a card. That I wasn't, I wasn't sold on.
• 30:39
  That was one where I was like, I would love to really consider
• 30:42
  buying it. Yeah.
• 30:44
  The card in question, I feel like we're going to expose what
• 30:48
  it is that we keep talking, but the card in question is
• 30:52
  definitely rarer and it is definitely a lot of them are are
• 31:00
  pretty beat, beat up. And it's also interesting
• 31:04
  because two but but this was sort of an A potential saving
• 31:08
  grace is this card doesn't come up and then 2 ended on the same
• 31:15
  night. Within like a minute of each
• 31:17
  other. No, it was more than that was
• 31:18
  like 30 minutes of each other. And So what it actually gave us
• 31:24
  a, it was like you were like, I can tell this means more to you
• 31:28
  than me, even though I really, really want it.
• 31:30
  This means more to you than me. So you go for the more premier
• 31:36
  example and I'm going to go for the quote UN quote lesser
• 31:40
  example. And mine ended 1st and I got it
• 31:47
  and yours ended 2nd and you bid way higher than I thought you
• 31:54
  were going to have to go way higher than comps and didn't get
• 31:58
  it. So it could have had a really
• 32:00
  happy ending, but it didn't. It would have been so much fun,
• 32:04
  but I didn't. I didn't know about the second
• 32:05
  one for days after deciding not to bid on the 1 you were going
• 32:08
  for. Oh.
• 32:09
  Really. You had mentioned there was
• 32:10
  another one. You wouldn't, You didn't say
• 32:13
  where it was. I can find it anywhere.
• 32:15
  And it wasn't until I reached out to to mark at auction wire
• 32:20
  and said, Hey, this this card, the one that you were going to
• 32:25
  bid on isn't popping up, isn't popping up and he.
• 32:28
  Said they had the wrong year. No, Oh, the one that you were
• 32:32
  bidding on had the right year, but it wasn't popping up.
• 32:35
  And he said that's weird. You're right, I'm going to work
• 32:38
  on it. But I did find this one and it
• 32:40
  was 19. It was the year later.
• 32:42
  They had the wrong year. And I was like, ha, ha.
• 32:45
  And that's when I texted you and said, is that other one you
• 32:47
  found because it's the wrong year?
• 32:50
  And you said yes. And then I said, OK, I'm going
• 32:52
  to bid on that one. I I knew about both of them the
• 32:55
  whole time I could. Not find it.
• 32:58
  I looked so weird everywhere. If I had known you were looking,
• 33:01
  I, I had them both because I am, I am an insane eBay saved search
• 33:08
  person. So I will go.
• 33:11
  If hypothetically this was a card of T20 6TY Cobb red, I
• 33:17
  would say T20 6TY Cobb red. PS: AT2O6 Ty Cobb red SGCT 2O6
• 33:24
  Ty Cobb, Ty Cobb, you know, cobbb AT2O6 Like I put in like
• 33:30
  anything that anybody could possibly do.
• 33:32
  So whenever these rare quote UN quote rare cards Bob up, they
• 33:36
  always hit one of my searches and sometimes they don't hit all
• 33:39
  of them. But this one, I knew about both,
• 33:41
  which is super interesting. And I also, I do think one of
• 33:45
  the reasons that the one I got went for less is because there
• 33:50
  was sort of a backup. Like if you don't get it,
• 33:53
  there's this other one. And then the other 1 ended up
• 33:55
  going pretty high. Yeah, for sure.
• 34:00
  Disappointingly high, but I sent you.
• 34:03
  Pictures of the card because the card came in the mail.
• 34:06
  No, I've got yesterday. I'm going to see the.
• 34:09
  Video I'm going to say now I'm going to say I do mid video.
• 34:13
  I for me though, cards are nowhere near as important as
• 34:18
  friendships, and I think that a lot of people will nod their
• 34:21
  heads as they're listening. I would never feel good about
• 34:27
  bidding on or especially winning a card that you wanted.
• 34:33
  Yeah, 100% agree with you on that.
• 34:38
  I think that is undeniable and I I think that I think that.
• 34:47
  And by the way, just let me just finish here for a SEC, because I
• 34:49
  think this, the people bid on cards, they're friends.
• 34:53
  And I'm not criticizing people who bid on cards that their
• 34:57
  friends are bidding because a lot of people have rare cards.
• 35:01
  And that's just one person against the other mentality,
• 35:06
  which is fine. It's just I, I wouldn't, I
• 35:09
  couldn't do it myself. Yeah, yeah, I just sent you a
• 35:13
  picture of it, the I, I. Yeah.
• 35:18
  The back has a little. I know there's a little paper
• 35:22
  loss on the back is and I'll send you a picture of that
• 35:24
  later. I flipped my phone over to see
• 35:27
  the back. Oops, I just showed it.
• 35:32
  No, they I looked you didn't quite.
• 35:35
  I yeah, I agree with you. I agree with you.
• 35:38
  These cards are just things. They're things at the end of the
• 35:41
  day. And I love these things, but
• 35:44
  these things are a medium for me to be able to make the friends
• 35:49
  and and have something in common with the friends.
• 35:51
  And, and I mean, I'm going down to the Burbank West Coast card
• 35:56
  share whatever in LA in February.
• 35:59
  And honestly, I'm going to try really hard not to buy anything.
• 36:03
  I mean, and I'm going to spend, I'm going to spend like 6 or
• 36:07
  $700.00 on the trip to go to the show.
• 36:12
  And I don't think I'm going to buy anything.
• 36:13
  I'm basically taking 6 or $700.00 out of my card funds to
• 36:18
  go down and hang out with some friends.
• 36:22
  And, and I've got four or five friends, my buddy Dave with the
• 36:26
  amazing collection, Tony Petty, Josh rated rookie.
• 36:32
  There's a bunch of people that are going to be there.
• 36:35
  And I'm like, it's worth, it's worth taking $700.00 out of my
• 36:39
  card account to go hang out with my card friends.
• 36:44
  So I could have bought a $700.00 card, but I'd rather hang out
• 36:48
  with my card friends instead. So all right, I, I had, I wrote
• 36:54
  down 4 questions and, and I used one of them and I'm going to,
• 37:00
  and we have time for me to ask my last one.
• 37:04
  I'm going to go with not when I was expecting that.
• 37:10
  OK, I want you to pick 2 cards, 2 cards.
• 37:15
  This is currently January 8th, 2026.
• 37:21
  Let's Fast forward to January 8th, 2036.
• 37:28
  What are the 2 cards? 2 not player, not, you know,
• 37:34
  maybe something from the 54 top set. 2 specific cards that you
• 37:41
  think 10 years from today will have gone up the most in value.
• 37:46
  Now I know everyone. Oh, value.
• 37:48
  I don't talk about value. OK, I'm going to.
• 37:49
  I'm asking you about value. What are the 2 cards that you
• 37:53
  think will go up the most the next 10 years?
• 37:57
  I think that card you just bought.
• 38:02
  You can't say that you don't really believe that.
• 38:04
  I do really, yeah. I think that that segment of the
• 38:10
  hobby, and I'm going to be very careful not to spoil anything so
• 38:12
  people go and watch your video. That segment of the hobby has a
• 38:16
  ton of potential and that specific card stunning.
• 38:21
  It's just outrageous that some point there's going to be
• 38:23
  grading that is better for I appeal.
• 38:26
  And there's little things like NBA and there's iappeal.com, but
• 38:30
  there's going to be something on slabs outside of the NBA
• 38:34
  stickers that improves the value of APSA One or PSA Authentic or
• 38:42
  whatever the the best grading company is, is going to have
• 38:46
  something about I appeal other than giving 1/2 point better
• 38:50
  grade. Something that says this card is
• 38:54
  a banger for any collector. And that's the type of card
• 38:59
  that's what I love is those very low grade high eye appeal cards.
• 39:05
  So 2 specific cards, let's just say it's going to be the same
• 39:08
  ones that are wildly popular and skyrocketing in value.
• 39:13
  Now the 52 mantle. So the 52 mantle, from an
• 39:18
  investment standpoint, you think we'll see the most appreciation
• 39:23
  in 10 years, one of the two? Yeah, because as we add more and
• 39:29
  more millionaires to the, the country in the world and more
• 39:34
  people talk about diversifying their retirement and their their
• 39:40
  portfolios and moving into sports cards.
• 39:43
  Assuming that we stay on this track, assuming that nothing
• 39:47
  changes, the more famous that mantle and the more desirable it
• 39:54
  becomes. And we know the supply is only
• 39:57
  going up because people are finding them.
• 39:59
  And once you find one, it goes it it stays in the hobby, right.
• 40:03
  It's not going to once it's found in somebody's attic or in
• 40:06
  somebody's basement, it's not going back into an attic or
• 40:09
  basement again. But not going up by much.
• 40:14
  It's staying quite static, less than the number of millionaires
• 40:20
  we're gaining. And that is the type of card
• 40:25
  that will be famous for a century.
• 40:29
  OK. So, so that was your first card,
• 40:32
  right? Or are you saying that your
• 40:34
  second card was the card that I just bought?
• 40:36
  Are you not going to pick another one?
• 40:38
  No, the second card is probably going to be the 89 upper deck
• 40:44
  Griffey. No way.
• 40:46
  Think about it this way. Think about it this way.
• 40:48
  That card was I was 10 years old when it came out.
• 40:52
  I'm 46 now, almost 47 and I am just now at a point where I can
• 40:59
  afford decent cards. My generation getting into their
• 41:04
  mid 40s. And then I was like the
• 41:08
  youngest, right? Well, that's, that's not the way
• 41:10
  I wanted to say this. You're going to have people in
• 41:13
  there who are in their 30s now in 10 years able to afford that
• 41:17
  card more. And the PSA 10 is probably,
• 41:22
  it's, I think right now it's at a peak, it's going to come down,
• 41:25
  but in 10 years it's going to be up.
• 41:29
  So there are, there are four, there are 4232 tens.
• 41:37
  In 10 years they'll probably be, I don't know, 5000 of them.
• 41:42
  Yeah, at least because people with nines are going to keep
• 41:45
  submitting them eights. They're 45,000 eights.
• 41:52
  Wow. I am really surprised to hear
• 41:55
  you say that. I'm really surprised.
• 41:59
  OK, Hey, I mean. I don't want to say something
• 42:01
  boring like a Shohei Otani numbered to 5.
• 42:05
  There's no such thing as a boring answer.
• 42:07
  No, it's just stupid. OK.
• 42:11
  Five people can. Do you think Shohei cards will
• 42:14
  be worth exponentially more in tenure?
• 42:16
  Do you think? I mean, yeah.
• 42:20
  I do, yeah. OK, All right.
• 42:26
  Well, we're at 42 1/2 minutes. Anything else you got for me?
• 42:33
  Any any fluff news or no? No.
• 42:38
  Nothing new on fluff, No. But we're going to make fluff
• 42:42
  sandwiches at the at Strongsville.
• 42:44
  I mean, of course we are. Yeah.
• 42:48
  So next week we will find a way to record, but we'll have to
• 42:51
  record early because I will win it.
• 42:54
  When our video drops, I will be like at the happiest place on
• 42:59
  Earth, but we'll still find a way.
• 43:00
  So if you're out there, just know we'll still be recording
• 43:05
  something. And yeah, Strongsville, we're
• 43:08
  getting there. It's going to be fun.
• 43:10
  New changes. And yes, I agree that we
• 43:14
  definitely affected it a lot and I hope that we didn't ruin it
• 43:23
  for too many people. So that's it.
• 43:28
  We're done. All right.
• 43:29
  All right, buddy. Thanks.
• 43:31
  Bye.