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NFL Week 16 TNF Showdown | Saints @ Rams | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  free there and over here. All that yeah, of course, always trying
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  to start on time. You guys know what it is. Got hoop title
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  here with me. We're gonna break down all things Saints at Rams Total around
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  forty five and a half game is in in Los Angeles. We're gonna go
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  through all the game as always with the captains, ownership, roster construction,
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  and a lot of people saying tough slate, tough slate, we'll see,
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  we're gonna try and get through it. And we'll say this before I throw
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  it to hoop. We didn't get to a definitive answer from the chat last
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  week because of all the quarterbacks stuff back and forth, but I believe they
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  did say Seahawks and over and so it ended up being like again they fifty
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  to fifty, but they did get the side right for once. So we'll
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  see how goes today. See where everyone's at, Hoopster. I'll bring you
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  in, man. What's going on Thursday afternoon? Ready to break this thing
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  down? Yeah, it kicks off a busy week for NFL content in general.
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  We got the Showdown game tonight, obviously, the two gamer on Saturday
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  than the full slate on Sunday, so big prize bowls too on Saturday.
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  I think five hundred thousand up top for that two game slate. So yeah,
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  we're winding down here the NFL season. But I mean there's still a
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  lot to go. The playoffs are going to be huge, really looking forward
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  to all that. Tonight's game. Feel pretty good about it. I mean
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  I looked into it a little bit this morning, and I think it's a
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  you know, just to kick it off. I think it's a really good
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  spot here for the Rams. Like I really like the Rams to win this
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  game. I think they could win it by a big margin. And we'll
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  kind of talk about that, you know, throughout the show and in terms
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  of how that can apply to our lineup. So feel pretty confident about it.
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  We'll see what the chat says. If the chats on on my side,
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  it might be a little worrisome. If the chat likes to RAM,
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  it could be a little bit scary. But I think this is a big,
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  big game for the Rams, So it's my initial thoughts. Curiously what
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  you guys say, But again, yeah, this kicks off a big week
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  for the NFL. Yeah, the chat's gonna be definitely on the Rams.
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  I can already predict that. One don't need to get the numbers yet from
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  them, but the chat's heating up. Hoopster's doing that, and I'm finding
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  out just five minutes or less into this show that I'll be lighting money on
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  fire tonight because I'm gonna be always against everyone in the world on the Rams
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  break down all of your guys' scores and the ways you guys think that this
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  game plays out. All those ramblowout lineups that you guys are already thinking about.
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  We'll get those in there for you and Hoopster. But Title bring you
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  in. Man. I know you're away living the dream for the holidays here.
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  What's going on, man? How you doing? Yeah? I don't
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  know about living the dream some days. Yeah, but I like being home
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  in Arizona as well. It's chilly up here. Hitting the box game later
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  though, I'm excited for that. As far as this late it is tough.
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  I don't know if I said that pre show and you said some people
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  have been saying that. I don't know if you've heard others say that as
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  well. I mean it comes down to value. Man, Like you go
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  down here, it is really gross and you want to play the Karen Williams
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  of Cooper Cups the studs of the world with the lack of value. It's
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  tough, and I think that leads a lot of people to these kickers,
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  to these defenses. Maybe some mid tier builds, but we just saw on
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  Monday. Hey, maybe two point nine points from one of these guys down
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  below could be enough to win a lot of money. Yeah, it was
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  unfortunate there, but don't remind me of the perfect runout that the Hurts Captain
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  people get from the stolen second touchdown from Swift to the late game value wide
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  receiver touchdown they need from JSN to make the Kolbe Parkinson two point nine work
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  and still almost get like they need everything. Yeah, distelly, sorry is
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  what it was, same one, same thing. I know, I know.
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  I didn't even want to bring it up. It was a little tilty.
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  It was a great game, though, Drew Locke. You let him
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  Whop anything else you want to add before we get into the rest of this
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  slate here and start things off. Yeah, a lot of people excited about
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  PGA and we're talking NFL, but PGA is right around the corner, you
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  know, Like you said, we recorded that show, uh and we're also
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  look and how our team's gonna look. And man, definitely excited for really
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  It's funded to get one of our favorite sports back in the mix.
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  be fire. He was using them in the swing season. We all crushed
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  as well. Our guy b walled some of the others, but they had.
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  They had to ask you title, you're gonna get in the DGA streets
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  this year? What's what's gonna happen? He's in them? He plays the
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  cast's the same. No, no, no, they're talking tournaments. Are
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  you gonna probably probably not. I'll take my forty K of the year and
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  cash and move on. Come on, Oh, I got him. I
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  I don't need you. Guys, got GPP streets. I'll take the safety
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  and I'll move on. You guys do a great job. Probably not in
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  the GPP streets, though it sounds like someone wants to take over the PGA
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  cash Course for this season. No, I look at I'm mixing our projections.
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  Everything come on now, But no, I ain't probably not. This
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  marketing with some PGA stuff here, but we're getting right to it after this
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  guys. Ten minutes in is always our thing now, but Mayo and I
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  what's in store for the Wednesday show. But lots of big stuff coming when
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  it comes to PGA hoop. Let's get into it, man. Ten minutes
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  in we talked on it enough. Give me your grand scheme over. You
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  said it already, you think it's gonna be a great spot. The last
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  time you called this spot was You've caught a lot of great things this season,
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  but was Buffalo just absolutely destroying Dallas When you said you got that feeling,
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  you said it was gonna go that way and Buffalo crushed. Give us
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  your takes on this one and where that's coming from. How do you see
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  it going, what type of score? And then what goes with that for
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  when we're building the best lineups. Yes, I'm finally gonna win some money
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  tonight. Let's go, let's go. Hell Yeah, now we're on Now,
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  we're on the right track. Now I'm even more excited. I might
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  have to play for a little bit more tonight. Now that we got that
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  mute the mute talking going. I think it's a really good spot. For
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  the Rams. I mean they're at full health now, basically even two two
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  outwolves back in the conversation. Not that that's like a massive piece of news,
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  but Matthew Stafford as his full complement of weapons. Cooper Cupp is back
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  to being Cooper cup Uh Pookah looks phenomenal. Even what's the tight end's name
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  is? I'm drawn a blank, Tyler Higbee, you got at well?
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  And then they have their workhorse running back in Kiren Williams, and they've won
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  four to five games, they're at home, they're in the playoffs right now.
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  I think they lay a beating on the Saints tonight. So that's the
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  one thing that immediately stands out to me. Now, how can that apply
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  to fantasy? Well, the Saints are a team where when trailing things get
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  pretty damn condensed. And when when they're trailing, Alvin Kamara has upside to
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  get you know, ten to twelve catches. Chris Olave could get absolutely peppered
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  in this spot. So even though I like the Rams to absolutely smash them
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  tonight, I do have some interest in these Saints guys in a trailing game
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  script where you can see Camara get you know, ten to fifteen targets where
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  you can see a lave get get twelve targets and kind of get there in
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  garbage garbage time. So you know, I think it's still a very interesting
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  slate. But I am going to be building teams where the rams that are
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  going to kick the Saints ass tonight. Yeah. I like that. If
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  anybody knows the Rounders reference, there's Title telling me to stick to my big
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  dreams and my GPP stuff, and he's gonna just collect his cash and keep
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  it, taking four stacks. He'll take his stacks and move. He take
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  his stacks, and I'll take my stacks of high society. And that's amazing.
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  I love it, though, Title always keeping us in check. Love
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  to see it. Title Hoopster just broke it down for us. I know
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  you said, Tom, it was the chat like our own chat was literally
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  saying it that. You know, it's tough slate. A lot of people
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  said we need some guidance. I know the Discord was talking about it too.
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  We'll get our guy double D is there. I see it, But
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  I want to get titles thoughts on this slate real quick, just to you
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  know how you see it. If it's similar to to Hooper. If you've
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  got another take on how this game plays out, well for I will say
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  I have a good had to have person that probably contributes to a lot of
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  that money. That's all I'll say there as far as this light, and
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  then the thing is like Kyra Williams by far looks like the best play on
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  this light. He is. He's minus two h five to score Kamara plus
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  one, fifteen, Cup plus one twenty go down the list. He's the
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  highest, our highest priced guy. But pricing's very tight today. Like it
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  feels like if you do want to go Kien Williams and play one, or
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  if you play two of the other top guys, the cups, the quarterbacks,
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  et cetera, you're gonna have to punt with some of these guys down
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  below you go to, like the Saints, tight ends are cheap? Well,
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  which one is it gonna be? Is it gonna be Juwan Johnson,
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  Foster Moreau, Jimmy Graham or Taysom Hill? Do you want to go to?
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  Is it gonna be Ronnie Rivers? Is he even gonna be active?
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  Is it gonna be Royce Freeman? Is it gonna be two two? At
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  well? Like it is really gross, and you are literally hoping for two
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  points three points and something like a Monday where it's just the stars and scrubs
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  build, which I don't think is the craziest thing. If Kyron falls.
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  If Kyron falls in the box two three times, you'll probably need him at
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  the Captain. But I think he'll still be popular there. How I'm looking
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  at it right now, the most successful actually had on a Showdown was these
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  Saints and Taysom Hill being low owned. Right now, I see him in
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  that range where he heed looks over priced, but a ownership discount with big
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  play upside. I'm gonna be looking to get more of a mid tier ish
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  build. It's not like I want to punt captains because I still think you're
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  gonna need a solid score. It's probably someone to fall in the box at
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  Captain, But I don't like the bills as much punting these spots with these
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  one K guys or something down below hoping for one to two points because people
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  are actually gonna go that route because it projects really well. Because these Karen
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  Williams, these quarterbacks O Lave. His price stands out a lot. I
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  think that's the bill people are gonna go, so I'm gonna be trying to
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  avoid we talked about on Monday. It didn't really work out as much,
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  but I'm on that same path, trying to avoid these complete punts, literally
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  hoping for one catch. I don't like that build as much. Yeah,
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  And the interesting thing about Monday right was that we got onto Swift, like
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  I definitely did. The thing about that is I want to mention it here
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  because it's gonna apply to this slate as well for me, but just to
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  say it, like, when Swift got the late Steam on Monday, it
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  didn't bother me as much still because I still was getting similar ownershi to Hertz,
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  but I got the bills where I didn't need the punts. I still
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  sort of even them both, and I was fine with that. But you
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  ended up needing the Hurts bill because the other stuff that got there. But
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  you know, on the slate, it really ended up being the biggest leverage
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  was opposite Swift because the late Steam on Swift, nobody was on Walker tonight.
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  To your point, how do you get off a guy that's minus two
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  hundred or better to score a touchdown and a guy like Williams but on the
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  opposite side. It doesn't seem like Kamara's getting the same love. Even though
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  you could see a big game and check downs and things like that, it's
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  hard to peg some of those other spots. So we'll see, I'm gonna
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  go back to Hoop because he had this up earlier. But our guy Double
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  D says what our boys one hundred three lineup's done, big stands. He's
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  he's with the hoops to hear a hundred but I don't think hoops going one
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  hundred percent Cup, But he's he's going on these rams one hundred percent Cup,
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  zero percent car, zero percent of any skill player below four k kicker
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  and DST ownership higher than prime. Josh Gordon sou who you want to follow
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  up Double D and then get to your captains. Me and Double D are
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  pretty aligned because I do like Cooper Cup quite a bit. I think he's
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  back to his alpha role tonight, and I think he's a phenomenal captain play.
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  You know, the challenging part of the slate is what Title pointed out
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  and Double D pointed out, where we just don't have the values. And
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  I do think this could be a very similar slate where a guy getting three
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  or four could just be what you need. I do think that can play
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  out. Now, that doesn't mean I want to go, you know,
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  super heavy on some of these cheap pump plays, but I'm going to keep
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  them in the pool for that reason because I just I need the upside.
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  Like I see, I mean, Cooper Cup could just smash the slate,
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  Kiren Williams could smash the slate. I think Nikiya could put up a massive
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  score. Kamara and Alavey I think could do the same. So I don't
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  know, I'm open to playing some of these cheap guys, but man,
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  it's not gonna feel good. But again, the reason I'm doing it is
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  because I do think it could be like that slate the other night, where
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  three or four from a guy could potentially just be enough. And like Jimmy
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  Graham like what is it three? What is it three games in a row
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  with a freaking touchdown? Like wow, Like that is so so nasty man,
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  so nasty one point six. Kay, they're clearly using him. It's
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  not a comfortable feeling. But for captains tonight, like I don't think it's
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  a quarterback captain Knight, Like I just don't see it from Stafford. I
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  don't see it from from Cup. They are getting some ownership Stafford, I'm
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  guessing will be around ten uh Cup him as a car car, you know,
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  cars coming in pretty low. But I just don't see it from those
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  guys. I'm going with the high volume dudes, the Kiren, Williams,
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  Kamara, Coup, Nikiyah Alave is a group that I'm kind of looking at,
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  and then maybe even a guy like Tyler Higbee DeMarcus Robinson. You know,
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  I do think there's a little bit of risk with a guy like him,
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  With Atwell coming back like at Well, it had been a big part
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  of what they're doing all season long. Now that he's healthy, like,
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  they're definitely gonna gonna put him out there. So I'm assuming some sort of
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  split between Robinson and Atwell, which really limits the upsides for those guys.
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  So really on this slate, for me, it is probably going to be
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  a pretty consolidated captain pool. It's the high upside guys, the high volume
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  guys. I think one of these guys just absolutely nukes the slate, and
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  so that's kind of where how I'll be playing the captain position tonight. Yeah,
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  I actually like similar captains. Before I kick it over the title,
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  I'll say this though, I don't think you need the quarterback with some of
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  these captains, Like I think cup can get there without Stafford and be the
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  guy that's still needed up top. Obviously, Kieran Williams doesn't need a quarterback
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  with him as a running back. I think Kamara or Olave could get there
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  without car It's the same situation stuff where like those guys could throw. I
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  mean, even on last week, I get it ended up being Hurts in
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  the Captain, but there was spots where like it wasn't like not like Drew
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  Locke did much until the end when he got that extra you know, that
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  touchdown to JSM. But little things like that on slates like this can make
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  a big difference. So I actually think you could go with some of these
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  wide receivers up top without their quarterback in the in the flex spot. I
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  definitely could see that being a possibility as well. And then our guy new
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  One's had it up here. This was a little stack because I was a
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  title. When he's naming all those guys, there's literally four tight ends including
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  Taysom Hill, but Foster's seventy three percent, snapchair five targets two k.
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  He has kind of got the same role as Juwan Johnson at least like like
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  for again for he's basically doing the same thing he's doing for half the price.
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  It's the challenge of, like Tokyo said, how do you cover Jimmy
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  Graham. That's why they're using him when you get down there. Unless your
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  dudes can jump eight feet high, it basically works every time if they want
• 19:26
  to go that route, and then you always have Taysom who who knows what
• 19:29
  you can do with that guy. But obviously the best time really to play
• 19:30
  him is on a Showdown slate because that's where it's just one game, one
• 19:33
  spot, anything can happen. Versus on a main SLT you have all those
• 19:37
  other options that can override him. So title, I'll kick it to you
• 19:40
  for your thoughts at Captain Tonight. Yeah, I'm on a lot of what
• 19:44
  you guys said. I don't love the quarterbacks much. I think Kyron will
• 19:47
  be by far the highest own probably around twenty percent, and rightfully so,
• 19:51
  he's been so good he is the highest price. Though I like going the
• 19:53
  cup. Nikuwa's who's gonna be of course, they're gonna get some ten to
• 19:56
  twelve something like that. I like that more than Kyroen. I plan on
• 20:00
  being underweight Kirroen if he doesn't fall in the box, I expect it to
• 20:04
  be Cup or Nikua half the ownership there. They are a little cheaper,
• 20:07
  especially Puka. And then on the saint side, I like Olave a lot
• 20:11
  of Captain. The price is just really nice eighty six hundred where Kamara is
• 20:17
  ten to eight. Jamal Williams has been in the mix a lot more as
• 20:18
  well with Kamar as well, It's not as Kamara's backfield. Jamal has definitely
• 20:23
  got a good amount of snaps. I'm worried about the touchdown equity for Kamara
• 20:27
  with Taysom there, with Jamal there, et cetera in that price take so
• 20:32
  by far my three favorite captains Pooka, Cooper, Cup, Olave, and
• 20:36
  I don't like the like the Taysom captains, even Shahe captains like the I
• 20:41
  don't know if Kicker captains the craziest with how thin the value is on this
• 20:45
  slate, but I still don't think you can plug in Kicker captain zero out
• 20:48
  dollars and then think you're gonna be unique because that's going to get some ownership
• 20:52
  too. But I think if I had to go anywhere pretty cheap for value,
• 20:56
  Captain, it would be Kickers in a dome and just hope the offense
• 21:00
  is stall. But by far my three favorites Pooka, Cooper, Cup and
• 21:03
  Olave. And then when we get to the flex, I think it's pretty
• 21:07
  clear there's a handful of guys that are getting overlooked because of their price and
• 21:11
  wear their price in the range, but they will be on the field a
• 21:15
  lot. And that's how I'm getting different today. So when we get into
• 21:17
  that, unless you want me to say those guys right now, I'll be
• 21:19
  mixing those guys in the FLEs to get different. But Captain, I don't
• 21:22
  think it's a spot you need to be crazy. I think you're gonna need
• 21:25
  someone to fall in the box or put up one hundred plus yards that'll be
• 21:29
  on the cap in today. Yeah, Saints Kicker too a price so nice,
• 21:32
  sixty nine hundred dollars up top, and that you can get there.
• 21:34
  Also even like the leverage of just even Saints D up top. It's complete.
• 21:40
  Obviously not only will in the flex will people play rams D but there's
• 21:44
  gonna be a lot more RAMS captains up top. So if you're looking for
• 21:45
  some of those leverage spots, don't like the value plays and want to go
• 21:48
  that route, I think that's an interesting combination, the one I haven't fully
• 21:52
  went away from yet. I don't think I'm gonna get to Stafford at all
• 21:56
  tonight. I can't say one hundred percent, but I don't think so as
• 21:57
  of right now. But the intro interesting thing about the Car side is a
• 22:02
  couple things. One, he's much cheaper. He's thirteen five versus most of
• 22:04
  those guys are fifteen K plus Stafford and above, and he's actually a little
• 22:08
  bit more expensive than Olave where that would be the spot where people go if
• 22:12
  they're going with the Saints. He leverages all those guys on the other side.
• 22:15
  And if you do even have the idea of Hoop's game plan, where
• 22:18
  like the Rams crush, he's gonna have to be coming from, but he's
• 22:22
  gonna come from the other side, so I think he does spread it out.
• 22:25
  I could just see that being a possibility, and I don't really see
• 22:27
  him getting much ownership here in this spot, so usually not as high on
• 22:32
  that. But if it's gonna be a potential leverage spot that way with you
• 22:36
  know, cup Nikua, Kamara, Williams, those four guys. For me,
• 22:40
  I could see a guy like car falling into that next slot for me
• 22:42
  where I could still get you know, ten percent of him and feel good
• 22:45
  about those lineups. Hoop, anything else you want to add going up to
• 22:48
  the captain spot or any other thoughts were leaning into that before we go into
• 22:52
  the running back place. Yeah, it's gonna be pretty tight for me up
• 22:56
  top. But I wouldn't be opposed to like the kicker stuff just because there's
• 23:02
  no other chief guys that really interest me. And I do think this is
• 23:04
  a slate where, you know, in order for kicker captain to work,
• 23:07
  obviously the kicker has to do well, you know, fifteen to twenty fantasy
• 23:11
  points most likely, but I do think this is a slate where we could
• 23:14
  see four or five other high priced guys get to like eighteen to you know,
• 23:19
  twenty five range and you just need them. So that's how the kicker
• 23:22
  captain stuff works. The kicker getting between fifteen and twenty, and then four
• 23:26
  to five other guys getting between like fifteen and above, and you just need
• 23:30
  them in your lineup. I do see that as a possibility tonight. Now,
• 23:34
  obviously I haven't built any teams, so I don't know if I'm gonna
• 23:37
  get there on the Kicker Captain. It will be noted obviously in my player
• 23:41
  pool if I do, but not necessarily opposed to it. I could see
• 23:45
  that playing out on this slate potentially. I did run the one fifty just
• 23:51
  real quick to give you guys an update. I actually went away, so
• 23:55
  I rerun. I will take it for you next time I talk. I'll
• 23:57
  go through and tell you what it's out. But yeah, it's going to
• 24:00
  be probably a pretty tight captain pool for me tonight. Yeah, and I
• 24:04
  should know too, because the chat was just well you're looking that up maybe,
• 24:07
  And I'll go to title on running back Toots in a second. But
• 24:10
  a couple notes. One some of the content stuff, just so you guys
• 24:12
  are aware of it and want to pay attention to it, is that we
• 24:15
  are going to be recording. Let me get this straight. So I'm looking
• 24:18
  off my calendar here, but we've got ten am Eastern on Saturday is going
• 24:23
  to be a live two Gamer show for the two Game Slate on Saturday after
• 24:29
  that or somewhere before the game start. In the afternoon, Hoop and I
• 24:30
  are going to record the three game Christmas Day slate, breaking it all down
• 24:34
  and won't be live, but it'll be a recording because obviously people with their
• 24:37
  families enjoying Christmas will probably want to watch it the night before or try and
• 24:41
  steak it in at some point before that slate. I know Title and Rio
• 24:45
  are going to be doing a five I think it's a five gamer right for
• 24:48
  the NBA slate on Monday, so they'll be breaking that down and setting that
• 24:51
  up so you guys will have all the content you need. But again that
• 24:53
  won't be on this station. That will be over on the ship at Nation
• 24:57
  YouTube station. And like I said, we're four point nine to one here,
• 25:00
  so we're very close to the five thousand subscribers. If you guys can
• 25:04
  help us get there before Saturday, be awesome because then on the Saturday show,
• 25:08
  Hoop and I live at ten am Eastern could give away the annual membership
• 25:14
  and then also remember our guy Chris Neville and our guy gives Juice also gave
• 25:19
  us two six month memberships to give away, so we are gonna have more
• 25:23
  giveaways for the Christmas season. You guys know we're gonna bring that in for
• 25:26
  the holidays, but just wanted to bring that up quickly. And then there
• 25:30
  was one more thing that I thought about here, and I might have forgot
• 25:33
  it. So Title, I'll let you go ahead hear on these running backs
• 25:37
  and just talk to us a little more about some of the guys than maybe
• 25:40
  some of the backups as well, if you have any thoughts there. Well,
• 25:42
  But first you mentioned in Car Captain, would you make sure to have
• 25:45
  at least two pass catchers with them because you'd expect I mean, because if
• 25:49
  it's just like a lave or just one guy gets all the touchdowns, you'd
• 25:53
  probably need that receiver at captain. So what are your thoughts there? Quick?
• 25:56
  Because it's the lack of rushing upside, Yeah, it's almost it's super
• 26:00
  likely. Then I get two guys in there. I don't think I'm gonna
• 26:03
  force the rule. I'm gonna look at it. But and again too,
• 26:04
  this one I talk about all the time. With using our projections and using
• 26:08
  the solver, what I'll do is probably just lock Car Captain, build twenty
• 26:12
  five lineups or something, and peer through them and see like a virtual handbuild
• 26:17
  and select the ones that I want that make sense. It's very likely it's
• 26:19
  gonna be that include two pass catchers. But if there is something interesting like
• 26:23
  a you know again, I guess the other way to put it is,
• 26:26
  I'll include Kamara as a pass catcher. Yeah. So I'm not what I
• 26:30
  meant to say for people that force rules out there is I'm not gonna force
• 26:33
  two wide receivers because I'd be fine with getting Kamara, Shaheed and the kicker
• 26:40
  with two guys from the other side, for example, and then be fine
• 26:42
  with that. I just I haven't built it out yet, but I definitely
• 26:45
  think that's the way that I would look at it for this setup. So
• 26:47
  good question. Yeah, and back to the Kicker Captain. I think it's
• 26:51
  viable for sure. I like it even more in smaller field stuff than larger
• 26:53
  field stuff when you don't need the stone cold knots. But I do.
• 26:56
  I think it is viable and larger field stuff. As well. As far
• 27:00
  as run Holidays to our boy Joey work. I want to give him a
• 27:03
  shower real quick. So Joey, it's going on, Joey. Yeah,
• 27:07
  Happy hollidays man. As far as Uh yeah, running backs, it's pretty
• 27:10
  easy. On the RAMS side, it's Kien Williams. It sounds like we
• 27:15
  have to monitor Ronnie Rivers might be activated, which would mean they have four
• 27:18
  running backs and they're definitely I don't think going to suit up four running backs
• 27:22
  like Zach Evans in the mix. You don't have to worry about him at
• 27:25
  all. And then it was Royce Freeman again, I don't think you'd play
• 27:29
  him. He's two point six K. I guess if you hope he falls
• 27:32
  in the box you get all the leverage off of, or if you think
• 27:34
  it's a blaw like Hoop does. He got six rushing at TOMPs last week.
• 27:38
  Again, that's just a large, large field darts. But I think
• 27:42
  Ronnie Rivers might be activated, which would be interesting listening to coach speak on
• 27:47
  that side. Really, it's just most people playing ten lineups or last twenty
• 27:51
  lineups, the last Kyen Williams or nothing. On the Rams side, same
• 27:55
  side a little more interesting because obviously it's Kamara. Last two games, Jamal
• 27:59
  Williams eleven carries and eight carries got to target both those games as well,
• 28:03
  and his price to get four point two K falls in a range where he's
• 28:07
  going to be low owned, So I don't think he's the craziest play.
• 28:11
  It only takes one to fall in the box. There's a lot of competition.
• 28:12
  If Thin gets the goal line, he might be in the game.
• 28:15
  Taysam might be in the game, Kamara might be in the game. Who
• 28:18
  knows. But if he falls in the box once at ten percent or something,
• 28:22
  I don't think he's the craziest play to get different. So looking at
• 28:26
  him a little bit, Caandre Miller might be back as well as I don't
• 28:30
  think you need him by any mean. He's one K, so when you
• 28:33
  go down and you look at these sub one point five K guys, there's
• 28:36
  nobody down there. So if you have one fifty max, I assume if
• 28:40
  he is active, you'll see some pros with the sprinkler two. I don't
• 28:44
  really think you need it. Even when he was playing, he's going to
• 28:45
  be a distant third behind Jamal behind Kamara might get a snap or two here
• 28:49
  and there a rookie, but monitor him and Ronnie Rivers as far as activations
• 28:55
  when it comes today. As far as the running back though, I don't
• 29:00
  I get the Kamara take because he's going to be a lot lower owned than
• 29:03
  the Karen Williams and the range he's in, but I think that's the split
• 29:07
  kind of and at his price. I just like the cups, Nikua's the
• 29:10
  quarterbacks more in the flax, et cetera. So I don't love Kamara as
• 29:12
  much. I think Jamal Williams interesting, you're overspending, but if he falls
• 29:18
  in the box once at ten percent, I like that, so I prefer
• 29:21
  him in the flec a. The ownership probably underway. Kamara Karen Williams.
• 29:25
  There's nothing that really needs to be said. The dude's absolute monster. They're
• 29:29
  getting the ball twenty five times, he's getting five to six a pop.
• 29:32
  Great game script. Yeah, I mean he's going to be chalk for a
• 29:34
  reason. Yeah, that's a good breakdown there. I mean, obviously,
• 29:37
  the stuff with Kamara, you know what you're getting up against. It it's
• 29:41
  hard when the price is what it is. But the other guys around him,
• 29:42
  what's on the other side. But that's the set above it. It's
• 29:45
  not just the facts. The truth of people always say, well, it's
• 29:48
  always the opposite side. I mean, joke around with some guys about that
• 29:51
  stuff as well, But it is the point of the leverage piece is like,
• 29:55
  why would people want to get to him that much when you've got Kieran
• 29:57
  Williams right there in the spot that he's in at home all those things.
• 30:02
  And then I don't know if this is the troll or not, but this
• 30:03
  has to be because it's like always the thing the broadcasters mentioned with tight ends.
• 30:07
  Oh you know, you used to play basketball back in the day,
• 30:10
  No shit, like they all did. That's what kind of it comes back
• 30:12
  to. We always have to listen to that one. It's hilarious. Lebron
• 30:15
  Lebron would be the best tight end in the league if you played football right.
• 30:19
  It even flips exactly, even go the other way. So if you
• 30:23
  can take a hit across the middle, he might be Yeah, I doubt
• 30:26
  it. I doubt it. Yeah. Okay, so there's other stuff here,
• 30:30
  but who if you want to hit on those running backs quick yourself something
• 30:33
  you have to add. Their title did a pretty good job I think of
• 30:34
  breaking it all down. Man, it's the same. I mean, it's
• 30:37
  Karen, it's Kamara and Jamal Williams. I mean, this could be a
• 30:41
  slate where if a four k guy gets seven or eight, you just need
• 30:45
  them seven or eight is a is a touchdown essentially. So I'm good with
• 30:49
  Jamal Williams and I'm not going to mess with the other guys. And sorry
• 30:53
  if either of you didn't, neither of you were playing Jamal Williams a captain,
• 30:56
  right, no sirtain. Somebody asked that in the chat, was like,
• 31:00
  I know what you're saying. He's the guy that if he just falls
• 31:02
  in the box and you get him in there, you're fine. Yeah for
• 31:03
  flex yeah, flex Before then I get you to go to wide receiver,
• 31:07
  hoop, because there's nothing more for me to add here. If you guys
• 31:08
  want to start now, not for the sim segment. I just want to
• 31:12
  know who wins the game and over or under forty five and a half?
• 31:18
  I think, yeah, forty five and a half. Who wins the game
• 31:22
  and over under forty five and a half. What do you got? So
• 31:23
  winner and over or under title or sorry, hoop, I'll go back to
• 31:27
  you wide receivers then take over that spot and talk to us more. Yeah,
• 31:32
  I mean, pretty easy position to digest. I mean we talked about
• 31:34
  kup Nikkua and a lave in the captain. I think we're all kind of
• 31:38
  on the same page. Those are captain plays for us, they're also a
• 31:41
  flex plays. I mean, good price in a Lave eighty six, Nikiya
• 31:45
  ninety six, Cooper Cup is up to eleven K. We don't have a
• 31:48
  ton of value. I get all that, but you know, these guys
• 31:52
  are all phenomenal wide receiver plays. Shaheed at seven K, you know,
• 32:00
  I don't know if I'll get much of them, to be honest with you,
• 32:01
  at seven K, I mean I could end up with more stars and
• 32:04
  scrubs type of approach today, depending on how much Cup I try to get
• 32:07
  in the captain, depending on how much Kyirin Williams I try to get in
• 32:10
  the captain this seventh case, shahied price tag, I might just not get
• 32:15
  a lot of it. DeMarcus Robinson at fifty four, don't really love it
• 32:19
  with at Well. Back Atwell is going to be out there some there's no
• 32:22
  doubt about it, and he's twenty eight hundred, So like, I'd just
• 32:25
  rather take my chances on a guy like two to two at Well. The
• 32:29
  ownership probably pretty similar. I'd say between DeMarcus Robinson and at Well, I'll
• 32:34
  just go with a much cheaper guy. Can mixing some at Perry. Lynn
• 32:38
  Bowden Junior got what was it, I believe five targets last week. Obviously
• 32:43
  I think that was without a lave, but four or five targets in the
• 32:45
  last couple of weeks. He's a cheap guy I have some interest in and
• 32:50
  that's about it. So love the expensive guys. I'm going to buy necessity
• 32:54
  play some of these cheap guys, and then the guys in the middle.
• 32:58
  I probably don't get much of Shaheed or DeMarcus Robinson. Yeah, it's tough
• 33:01
  here a title, because I think that's the other thing I'm noticing too.
• 33:05
  Like one thing that stands out to me a big time, and it starts
• 33:07
  at wide receiver is where everybody wants to play the expensive wide receivers and mostly
• 33:14
  it's the Rams, Cup and Nakua and then go to the other side with
• 33:17
  the Saints and play some of these cheap options and make their take. Look,
• 33:21
  we're making cases on Lynn Bowden, and we're making cases for who's the
• 33:25
  other guy at Perry and things like that, where if it makes it work,
• 33:29
  it gets me everything I want for how I think the game's gonna play
• 33:30
  out. But you could flip that as well. Where's your take on at
• 33:35
  well, because obviously to start the season there was some different things going on
• 33:37
  and his stuff that he had coming back from. So I guess start with
• 33:40
  a well and then work your way up the board if there's any other guys
• 33:44
  down there you want to talk about as well. But I'm curious your take
• 33:45
  on him. Yeah, I think he gets some steam because there's just really
• 33:50
  nobody down here. And so he missed last week with a concussion. He
• 33:53
  got hurt the week before, But even the week before, DeMarcus Robinson was
• 33:57
  starting to get in the mix and splitting with two too. I'm on the
• 34:00
  DeMarcus train. You look at the props plus three hundred for DeMarcus, a
• 34:02
  score plus four four to twenty five for two to two. I think we
• 34:07
  might see a little bigger ownership discount than Hoop's thinking. If it is only
• 34:10
  if they are relatively similar. I would definitely prefer the savings. But fifty
• 34:15
  four hundred for DeMarcus and twenty eight hundred for two to two on a slate
• 34:19
  where pricing's pretty tough, I just think we see a pretty big discrepancy there.
• 34:22
  I mean, I like it. I was talking about earlier eating Sun
• 34:25
  chalk at captain or like I'm not gonna be playing Shaheed or Jamal or like
• 34:30
  these one percent guys right here a receiver. Two guys that stand out,
• 34:35
  there will be twenty percent or right around there that will be on the field.
• 34:37
  Shaheed and DeMarcus Robinson. You're overspending, there's no doubt about it.
• 34:42
  But it only takes one touchdown and that's how you kind of get different.
• 34:45
  So yeah, I'm a little different than Hoop here. Those are the two
• 34:47
  that stand out. Shaheed has that big play upside. The price is gross,
• 34:52
  there's no doubt chaheat at seven k gross. That's why his ownership is
• 34:54
  going to be there. But you do know he can take one seventy yards
• 34:59
  and break this like kind of like Jamal Agnew did. Yeah, and it's
• 35:02
  like when we get to taste them and stuff like that. Taysom's gonna be
• 35:06
  on the field. He's overpriced for his role, but if he falls in
• 35:08
  the box, once falls in the box twice, you will need him.
• 35:12
  I just on a slate that's really tough like this, when people are going
• 35:15
  down for all this value and stuff and hoping they get one, two,
• 35:17
  three points I'd rather overspend for guys I know will be on the field.
• 35:22
  Yes they're over priced, but at least I know they're on the field that
• 35:24
  have opportunities. So that's really the only difference anyone. Like, man,
• 35:30
  if you really want someone down here, like ben'scronic, that's a guy you're
• 35:32
  literally hoping for one catch and then you're just because he's four hundred bucks and
• 35:37
  no one else is down there. But yeah, other than that, like
• 35:40
  we talked about a lave all of that stuff, it's really just a heat
• 35:43
  into Marcus Robinson that I think are are pretty interesting as overspends that are gonna
• 35:47
  get kind of forgotten in the range. Yeah, a lot of rams overs
• 35:52
  here. I like your takes there though, and I think the Robinson won
• 35:53
  a little bit more intrigued. I guess like that again, Robinson or at
• 35:57
  well, however you want to shake it up. You've got a lot of
• 35:59
  lineups. I got no mixing and matching. But at my point, would
• 36:01
  more so be when people already have two of Nakua Cup and Kieran Williams in
• 36:07
  a lot of lineups, because it's easily affordable to get two of them in
• 36:09
  there and then build out from there. I just don't think they end up
• 36:13
  again on a third wide receiver for that team or a secondary to a Kieran
• 36:17
  Williams as much. So they'll get some ownership. But I like the calls.
• 36:21
  Like again, I always talking about this paying up for probability. Both
• 36:23
  those guys definitely possible, and our guy Eddie, he's talking about it with
• 36:27
  the shades Eddie with the shades Shaheed versus Rams secondary could definitely be a possibility.
• 36:32
  It just costs a lot more than Agnew did at two hundred bucks when
• 36:35
  he did it. You're paying quite a fee for it, but could be
• 36:38
  the way it works. And again you could stay within some of those more
• 36:40
  balanced builds that way and get off of the kickers. The defense is the
• 36:45
  cheap options for New Orleans and get a guy like him in there, even
• 36:47
  if you are going heavy RAMS builds on that side. So that would be
• 36:51
  my take on it, and then the original take of just the obvious that
• 36:54
  the ones that are gonna get the most ownership are the three that we know
• 36:57
  up top. I think people lean heavily to towards the RAMS side, So
• 37:00
  it'll be interesting to see where Olave comes in overall, but even olave at
• 37:05
  like eighty six hundred is just a solid price in the flex again, like
• 37:08
  you said, sixteen hundred less for Shaheed, it's it could be a good
• 37:12
  option here just to go down to him and just pay for it. But
• 37:15
  you know, get the lower ownership with that spot. Hoop. Did you
• 37:16
  have anything else you wanted to add here? If not, you could take
• 37:20
  us into these tight ends. Like title mentioned earlier, you include Taysom Hill
• 37:23
  by designation, You've got four tight ends. It looks like on just the
• 37:28
  Saint side alone, you got Higbee who you mentioned off the top for the
• 37:30
  Rams, and then their guy Alan. I think he still got some snaps
• 37:35
  last week, right, I think he was still in the mix there and
• 37:37
  yeah he was. He even got a target there, fourteen yard catch,
• 37:40
  so yeah, give me he could be here two point four points that you
• 37:44
  need on that side. Yeah, the tight end, Yeah, I mean
• 37:47
  you know Taysom Hill. We always talk about him on these shows, like
• 37:52
  I really believe it, Like if you've been playing them and you've had success,
• 37:54
  like just keep putting his ass in there. If you haven't been playing
• 37:58
  them, like probably stay away. It is showdown. So I guess you
• 38:01
  know, it may be a little more consideration, but I don't have a
• 38:07
  ton of interest in Taysom Higbee. I do like at fifty eight, And
• 38:12
  then you have all these these cheap guys. I mean, you have Juwan
• 38:14
  Johnson, Foster Moreau, Davis Allen, and Jimmy Graham, who I'll reluctantly
• 38:21
  play in some of my lineups. I like Moreau the best out of the
• 38:24
  cheapias. I mean, he's been playing a lot. The number someone posted
• 38:28
  it earlier in the chat. He's been out there a lot, coming off
• 38:30
  a decent game two K. We just need some value. I'll be mixing
• 38:35
  and matching these guys and hoping someone does something. I guess I don't know,
• 38:38
  But there's now none of these guys I'm gonna be super overweight on.
• 38:43
  The only one that I might get overweight on by a decent margin would be
• 38:46
  a guy like Foster Moreau at two thousand just makes a lot kind of work.
• 38:51
  But I don't know. Nothing stands out is like, oh, I
• 38:53
  absolutely love this play. But there are a lot of a lot of these
• 38:57
  guys just seem very similar to me. Just kind of mixing match them in
• 39:00
  your lineups. What happens here? Title, there's only two ways this goes.
• 39:04
  Everyone gets on the steam of Foster more thinking I'm not gonna play Jimmy
• 39:07
  Graham because he's not gonna happen again. And then it does happen again and
• 39:12
  Jimmy Graham gets the touchdown. That's just all you need from him. Let's
• 39:14
  just say that. Or do people jump on Jimmy Graham because they go with
• 39:19
  what the chat was saying earlier? How it's like again, forget the people
• 39:22
  that actually look into snapcounts and stuff. Everyone just looks and says, the
• 39:23
  guy gets a touchdown every game. They can't own them, they can't handle
• 39:28
  them in the red zone, end zone stuff, and then he ends up
• 39:30
  getting it. What do you see happening here? When people do go down
• 39:32
  to this spot, I think they're gonna go Foster for that four hundred.
• 39:37
  Yeah, I mean Jimmy Grahm. First of all, maybe cashro is like
• 39:40
  with Jimmy Graham's still in the league, and maybe they click the box score
• 39:43
  and they see it, But I mean it's that four hundred. Froster projects
• 39:46
  a lot better tight ends, so tough, So any of these tight ends
• 39:51
  I will say are gonna be sub twenty percent in the flex. So all
• 39:53
  of these guys you can use to get different in chalkier builds. Looking at
• 39:58
  the touchdown props at these guys, Taysom plus two to fifteen, Higbee plus
• 40:01
  two ninety, Jimmy Graham plus five hundred, Juwan plus five hundred, Foster
• 40:07
  Morow plus eight fifty, So that is very interesting. Obviously, Foster is
• 40:12
  on the field a lot in between the twenties and then when they get to
• 40:15
  the goal line, that's a lot when Jimmy Graham and stuff comes in.
• 40:19
  I don't know Taysom. I definitely have a little bias. He won me
• 40:22
  the showdown slate earlier, but it was a different spot. I know Foster
• 40:25
  was in, I Juwan was out that game, and I believe someone else
• 40:29
  was out that game. That gave Taysom a lot more reps at tight end.
• 40:31
  So it's not the same spot. But he's plus two to fifteen to
• 40:35
  get in the box. And would anyone be surprised if, oh, Taysom
• 40:38
  has two one yard rushing touchdowns today and he just you need him in the
• 40:42
  flex spot? No, you are overspending for it. But you know that
• 40:45
  they love him down there. You know he has the touchdown upside plus two
• 40:50
  to fifteen for someone that's gonna be I don't know, fifteen percent, ten
• 40:53
  percent something like that. Again, maybe I have a little bias, but
• 40:58
  I think Taysom Higbee are are my favorites because Higbe's tight end one. Taysom,
• 41:02
  you know, can get in there. You're completely overspending. Defense is
• 41:06
  kickers. When we get to them, they're gonna be way more popular than
• 41:08
  usual on this slates, or people just want to go to the alives,
• 41:12
  et cetera. So it's kind of in a dead zone and those touchdown props
• 41:15
  plus two fifteen ain't bad at all. Plus two eighty isn't bad at all.
• 41:19
  Do I have a lien on any of these other guys, No,
• 41:21
  I would just be mixing, like I don't know, Like Davis Allen would
• 41:24
  probably be my least favorites. Jiwan's kind of in that dead zone range as
• 41:29
  well. I don't have a lien with any of these other guys. I
• 41:30
  will say Taysom I will be playing some, Higbeel will be playing some as
• 41:35
  well. But all of those tight ends sub twenty percent use them to get
• 41:38
  different Shaheed Jamal Williams, Like, you can't be jamming all the chalks.
• 41:43
  So those are the guys I'll be looking at in the mid tier build that
• 41:45
  will still be on the field and have a chance. Yeah, I will
• 41:47
  say this too. This fits the mold of what I was previously talking about
• 41:51
  as well. Again, even when people get down here, got to use
• 41:53
  the cheap New Orleans guys, right, So whether it is Moreau or Jimmy
• 41:58
  Graham or whatever they do, it's just that's the way to make your Kieran
• 42:00
  Cops double pick of those guys, or with and or Nakua Stafford, whatever
• 42:05
  the combo people are playing with that. So again, when you go down
• 42:07
  here, I like your talk of like the payoff for probability guys that you'd
• 42:09
  already had Shaheed and you had Robinson in the mix. Now you bring Taysom
• 42:15
  Hill into it, it could definitely happen. But Higbee is the guy that's
• 42:17
  interesting because he takes away from the expensive RAMS receivers and Kieran Williams, and
• 42:23
  he also isn't the talk of the cheap guy down and not saying you can't
• 42:28
  play both, but just to bring that up. But of course my guy
• 42:30
  Andrew knows there's no way that Jimmy Graham can hop in and score a four
• 42:34
  touchdown in four straight games. No way, And then didn't we do He's
• 42:38
  due to not find the end zone, Tambeau. In case you didn't know,
• 42:43
  people to be people are due to be cheeks because they said Drew Locke
• 42:45
  was cheeks on Monday. And what happened. He came out and got the
• 42:47
  job done as well, so anything well until the last drive of the game,
• 42:52
  until he had tears rolling down his cheeks after the game. Yeah,
• 42:57
  good, good for him. Man, got the job done. Jas And
• 43:00
  by the way, just to stud that was a sick catch. DK made
• 43:02
  some two incredible catches on that drive to lead them up there as well,
• 43:07
  so you got to give the other guys credit too. It was definitely an
• 43:08
  awesome, awesome game for what could have been a really bad one. I
• 43:12
  thought it turned out to be quite good. Not sure how this one will
• 43:15
  go tonight, but I will say this, the chat is official. Our
• 43:17
  guy William Grimes is capping it off with another rams over. The official chat
• 43:23
  is rams and over, so we'll see where they get it wrong today.
• 43:28
  It's always fun though, to go around with that and have it. It's
• 43:30
  gonna be awesome. So let's keep talking about this one here. Stick with
• 43:35
  you, hoop anything else to add on that stuff. If not, you
• 43:37
  can do kickers defenses go from there. Yeah, you know, kickers are
• 43:43
  gonna you know, depending on how you build your teams. Like for me,
• 43:46
  kickers are gonna end up just being a necessity. And I don't hate
• 43:51
  it because it's in a dome tonight, and you know, I think both
• 43:53
  teams can potentially move the ball. So I'm good with both these guys.
• 43:57
  They've been pretty productive kickers season as well. I don't know, how do
• 44:01
  you pronounce the Rams guy? Have have risk? Have have a risk?
• 44:06
  Or so I have no Lucas who Lucas Lucas? Yeah, yeah, Lucas,
• 44:09
  So you look at it, I mean eight thirteen, eleven, seven
• 44:14
  and he's making most of his field goals attempts, So I'm cool with him.
• 44:17
  And then group on the Saints side. You know, actually he hasn't
• 44:22
  really done all that much and hasn't really had the opportunity. Had one game
• 44:25
  where he attempted six, but outside of that one one zero one two.
• 44:30
  Yeah, So maybe I don't like the kickers as much, but probably just
• 44:32
  gonna have to play him by necessity and hope, uh, you know,
• 44:36
  something works out. We just don't have the cheap guys. If you want
• 44:38
  Kyron Williams captain teams, if you want Cooper Cup captain teams, if you
• 44:43
  want Kamara captain teams, You're probably just gonna have to play some of these
• 44:46
  kickers defense. You know, probably a little bit of a similar story.
• 44:51
  I anticipated getting more defense than I typically get just because the lack of plays
• 44:57
  when you go through there's just not a ton of just play he's in general
• 45:00
  tonight, So probably end up with more kicker and defense than I've had in
• 45:05
  a while tonight for that reason. Yeah, maybe have risk is no risk
• 45:08
  tonight. You can just play them, get away with it, no problem
• 45:10
  at all. Just put them in your lineups and you're good to go.
• 45:13
  Start every lineup with him in there, the Rams kicker, because he's cheap.
• 45:16
  He puts up the points forty eight hundred bucks in the flex title.
• 45:20
  Do you have different takes kickers. He's usually look at them from the perspective
• 45:22
  of, Okay, this is what's happening. Maybe I can go the opposite
• 45:25
  but I don't know where people are going tonight. You know, it's one
• 45:29
  of those spots. If it was in New Orleans, we know their kicker
• 45:31
  would be popular because people usually like them at home. But in this spot
• 45:35
  here, the defense is pretty cheap. Thirty eight and thirty four hundred at
• 45:38
  least the rams D you'd have to think will be somewhat popular here at thirty
• 45:42
  eight hundred. But I'm not sure how you see in it. How do
• 45:44
  you see it play out? I think all four of them are popular,
• 45:46
  just like you look in the range. Yeah, the defenses are cheap.
• 45:50
  Who's in their range? Juwan Johnson is four k, rams D thirty or
• 45:54
  let's go Jamal forty two, Jiwan four k. Then you get rams thirty
• 45:59
  eight, Saint for at Perry linn Bawden. Then you can get to to
• 46:02
  too, like Rams and Saints are gonna be way higher on than Juwan Jamal
• 46:07
  at Perry Bowden. Then you look at the kickers. Who's above them,
• 46:10
  DeMarcus Robinson, Tyler Higbee. Like the range is just so much worse.
• 46:15
  And that's why we're mentioning, or I was mentioning all these guys as difference
• 46:17
  makers are to get different because people are gonna go and you fall in that
• 46:22
  range either a kicker or a defense, they project better than all of them.
• 46:25
  Defenses are always on the field, they've had a historic year and showdown.
• 46:30
  People aren't gonna forget that. And yeah, kickers in this game in
• 46:32
  a dome, I'll be playing them. But I think you have to be
• 46:37
  cognizant on how you do play them. And that's why the Higbees, the
• 46:40
  Jamal Williams, Juwan Johnson's very easy pivots in that range of guys that will
• 46:45
  be on the field that will be much lower owned. So in chalkier builds,
• 46:50
  I'll be looking for pivots. If you're getting different at captain already or
• 46:52
  you're already mixing in a Taysom Hill or something, then I think plugging into
• 46:57
  defense or kickers perfectly fine there. So I think your other roster construction should
• 47:01
  dictate whether you eat some chalk at defenses or kickers. I don't have a
• 47:05
  strong lean on which guy is gonna be etc. Who knows that it's so
• 47:08
  random at these positions, but it's mainly just roster. You're already roster construction
• 47:14
  will dictate what I do whether I eat the chalk or get different in the
• 47:17
  range around them. Yeah, we could just see PPR points racked up everywhere
• 47:21
  in this one, where these just again if they don't end up doing as
• 47:23
  much downe there. I know they're cheap, but if you see other spots
• 47:25
  where guys come through with a touchdown from down there, if we see more
• 47:29
  PPR points just getting racked up up top, maybe it is the small amount
• 47:31
  of points they put up. You don't need a huge game from them.
• 47:35
  So it's really tough to say. I'll probably have more saintsty just because it
• 47:37
  looks like the rams D should be pretty popular, especially I people get to
• 47:40
  the four to two builds or even if they're getting to five ones and things
• 47:43
  like that. I could just leverage it the opposite side. Our guy DD
• 47:46
  was in here earlier, Roberts, so you must have joined us late.
• 47:49
  We already brought it up and titled any take on this one. Our guy
• 47:52
  Adam's always a great supporter of the show. I know it's season long,
• 47:55
  but will help them out here a male media network. A lot of stuff
• 47:58
  you like Olave Tonight. Yeah, yeah, and I don't trust Deontay as
• 48:02
  much with Mason Rudolph, who is an artificial today by the way as well,
• 48:06
  so Adam will look you up there. I think it's gonna be going
• 48:07
  with Olave tonight. Definitely could see that. Uh, you know another rams
• 48:13
  over camp bat against McVeigh. So I don't know. It's tough to say,
• 48:16
  Hoop. I brought up FanDuel because we're gonna get to the SIMS segment.
• 48:20
  If you guys want to start throwing your scores, and I know you
• 48:22
  did some did actual scores already. It was the opposite of what I asked
• 48:25
  for. But we'll look at the ones from before if we need it.
• 48:28
  But for now, if you want to throw your scores, and you can.
• 48:30
  But FanDuel thoughts, Hoop, this is running it on this the dry
• 48:34
  run of what it looks like as per what Vegas has it at right,
• 48:37
  Like, I just clicked run the Sims. It likes Kieran Williams, I
• 48:40
  mean, the good The weird part is that it's really spaced out, like
• 48:44
  only even with Kieran Williams, they're only wanting him in around fifty two percent
• 48:47
  of total lineups. There's no huge conviction here, but it's probably because a
• 48:52
  lot of these plays are very similar when you mix in Stafford, Nakua,
• 48:55
  Cup Kamara, all the other guys that you can use over there twice,
• 49:04
  I mean double maybe now I'm gonna win double the money. I was going
• 49:06
  to speak a vandel no double dipper tonight. For sure. It's the same
• 49:12
  thing, though, it's like there's no cheap play, so no one is
• 49:14
  gonna be able. You're not gonna be able to get eighty percent Kyne Williams
• 49:17
  up top or anything like that. You know prices that kind of stand out.
• 49:22
  I'd say Nikiya at the twelve k is is pretty cheap, a lave
• 49:27
  twelve five relatively cheap kickers and defenses are in the same range they're they're typically
• 49:34
  in, Like Taysom Hill at ten k, like that's a terrible price,
• 49:37
  Like he's got to do like he'll I'll have to do like multiple touchdowns to
• 49:40
  pay off that ten k. Couldn't click that name, Higbee I do,
• 49:45
  like at seventy five hundred, that's a very cheap price tag like him actually
• 49:49
  quite a bit on on Fan Duel Jamal Williams seven k, Like you know,
• 49:53
  similar price tag on DK where it's like you're just looking for a touchdown
• 49:58
  at that point, I'd be fine with that. Foster Moreau fifty five hundred.
• 50:01
  But again, none of these guys are are slam dunk plays. Very
• 50:06
  similar setup where there's not many cheap plays. The two guys that stand out
• 50:08
  as solid price point plays for me though, Nikiya at twelve k and then
• 50:14
  Tyler Higby at seventy five hundred. Yeah, what what about MVPs up there?
• 50:19
  Would you put either of those guys there? You're gonna stick to Stafford
• 50:22
  and just use them in the the any spot any flex Yeah, probably,
• 50:25
  you know, mostly the RAMS guys would be William Stafford, Cup Nikia.
• 50:30
  I'd probably focus on those four. Those are the ones I like the best,
• 50:34
  definitely on FanDuel. Okay, title anything extra you've got to add there,
• 50:38
  I mean the chat just on the thought process too. Like I said,
• 50:42
  obviously you got to mix in more guys so you're gonna see this,
• 50:45
  but usually you see at least someone lead heavily. It still is Williams,
• 50:49
  but it's only fifty three percent of the time they have them. Even in
• 50:51
  the optimal lineup over there, that's still it's more than half. But usually
• 50:54
  you see like a seventy eight on somebody or something like that. There's just
• 50:57
  so many guys over there. Anything else to add before where we get to
• 51:00
  pick and scores here? Yeah, no, fandle, I mean they priced
• 51:02
  him right. Finally, sixteen K is the highest guy on a slate where
• 51:06
  value is a little tougher, so I think you can get away. Of
• 51:08
  course, leaving money on FanDuel is always recommended since it's hard to get difference.
• 51:14
  And yeah, I agree with too, like that, it's a lot
• 51:15
  of the same guys on DK on fandel that will be better way over price
• 51:20
  the Taysom Hills, the Shaheeds, the DeMarcus Robinson's. It's way even tougher
• 51:23
  to click on FanDuel, but it's so much harder to get different on FanDuel.
• 51:28
  If you're trying to solo ship or like less than ten, they'll probably
• 51:30
  need to click those guys be a Foster's price, Higbees price stands out.
• 51:35
  But yeah, I agree with a lot of it. Defensive, Kickers et
• 51:37
  cetera will be owned over the Kickers. Actually, actually I'll take that back.
• 51:39
  Kickers will be I think a lot more owned than Defense is on FanDuel,
• 51:44
  So I think defense is On FanDuel you can get a little more different
• 51:45
  as well, whereas on DK they have enough price difference from the Kickers that
• 51:50
  they'll still get a lot of ownership. Yeah, I agree with that part
• 51:53
  as well. The other thing I was gonna ask the title is I know
• 51:57
  what side hoops song because he's heavy on the Rams side. But if the
• 51:59
  Saints win tonight, is it an over or is it an under? Like
• 52:04
  Again, I'm not like trying to pick it exact, I'm just saying,
• 52:06
  do you think it's like under the defense shows up and that keeps the offense
• 52:09
  down for the Rams, or do they get lucky in a shootout and Car
• 52:14
  somehow shows up? Because Carl and Stafford as much as Stafford and both Car
• 52:16
  get made fun of. What if it was just when the game where the
• 52:20
  two bad quarterbacks go heavy back and forth. How do you see that plan
• 52:22
  out? Yeah? I would say under. I have a hard time picturing
• 52:25
  Car put out forty on anybody nowadays. See if you can find a score
• 52:30
  for that. I ran the dry run here, hoop your take on that.
• 52:34
  If the Saints somehow do hop up into the mix, do you see
• 52:37
  something like Alex's twenty thirteen. Could you see where Carr flies at it and
• 52:40
  they get an over. Yeah, I'd probably assume that it goes goes under.
• 52:45
  I mean yeah, probably, Yeah, I agree with that. Okay.
• 52:50
  Our guy Tweezy earlier was asking if we could just run it as it
• 52:52
  is, so I ran it quickly, very similar. Actually two title here,
• 52:55
  and I know you pulled that score up. We'll go to it next
• 52:58
  quickly, but just to say it a little bit heavier. We get closer
• 53:00
  to that sixty percent total range. Obviously heavy captain usage for Williams. Nikua.
• 53:07
  Olave still shows up quite a bit, which is interesting. Kamara not
• 53:10
  much at all. Cup though, is the guy they seem to to hate
• 53:15
  on compared to Puka and Kieran Williams. Any first take on this title before
• 53:19
  we go to that twenty thirteen score, Yeah, I think Olave is gonna
• 53:22
  pop or be a solid value pretty much anywhere, because I'd look at him
• 53:27
  as the same as like the Cops, the Kiren all that. But yeah,
• 53:30
  that price you highlighted is so good and I like like the why like
• 53:34
  Puka and Cup a lot at the captain Is that means Kyron's not gonna fall
• 53:37
  in the box. If one of those guys make it, you expect the
• 53:39
  cup seventy yard like last week, or Pooka Kiren doesn't get that those touchdowns
• 53:45
  and then you're leveraging off the twenty percent captain that have twenty one percent compared
• 53:50
  to what Cup thirteen Puoka twelve. So I like that that the leverage.
• 53:54
  And you mentioned with Higbee earlier, if like Higbee, you like Higby more
• 53:59
  than the other tight ends because if he does get there, your leveringe off
• 54:02
  a lot more chalk with the Rams than you are with the Saints, which
• 54:06
  I think makes a lot of sense as well. Yeah, and that's the
• 54:07
  other thing too. Again, this build is obviously set up on the current
• 54:10
  game score or whatever it was, Like we just used the twenty four to
• 54:15
  twenty five twenty one to see what the optimal results were. But this is
• 54:19
  another thing too. Like I always say with projections in general, I stand
• 54:22
  by the projections I use them. I'm saying that if I notice something though,
• 54:25
  like this where it's like clearly Kieran Williams is a much better play than
• 54:30
  Kamara, well using that to know it? What if the game script flips,
• 54:35
  I don't even have to go run the score and run the sims to
• 54:37
  see this where I could easily still talk myself into it. Even though this
• 54:39
  looks bad on paper, they're saying he never really shows up. Well,
• 54:44
  if I'm just flipping it in my mind, I know that a lot of
• 54:46
  people are gonna have Williams up there, and you can go to Nakua,
• 54:49
  you can go to Cup. But I also can just put Kamara in some
• 54:52
  and then flip it that way. So I just use it for different ways
• 54:54
  because of that. But that's just one thing I'll note quickly before we plug
• 54:59
  this in. Let's go I need to thirteen. You had it up there
• 55:00
  earlier. Let's pug this score in. We'll go up, we'll run the
• 55:06
  sims and see what we're getting as far as the optimal results for this one.
• 55:08
  Just see what it pops up like. But I'll let you talk about
• 55:10
  it first title here. Probably you know the game script is obviously gonna flip
• 55:15
  in this case, but it's probably still gonna be Curan Williams time, just
• 55:17
  based on his usage and everything that goes with it. So we'll have to
• 55:21
  wait and see how these things look. Yeah, I'm thinking they'll still like
• 55:23
  here in hate Stafford, love Car love O Lave And I'm definitely interested to
• 55:30
  see what is thinking of all these like really cheap punts down here with roster
• 55:34
  construction likes Carr. I wonder about this one too. This guy just said,
• 55:37
  but you have to pick. Oh, he's only picking one, Like,
• 55:43
  I don't even care about the other two. It's definitely Pittman or Puoka
• 55:45
  tonight. But uh, I don't know what you would do there? What
• 55:49
  would you do title with that weight on Pittman or rolled? Ye? Is
• 55:52
  there been an I haven't seen any update on Pittman with that concussion last week.
• 55:55
  If it's up in the air, I would probably roll Pooka. If
• 56:00
  it sounds like he's pretty confident to the play, I'd go Pittman. But
• 56:01
  I mean that hit. He could have broke his neck last week. That
• 56:05
  was scary. He got it already, says practice. So it wasn't bad
• 56:10
  though. Yeah, he got up and he was good. We already talked
• 56:14
  about all this if you missed it at and we hit on all We literally
• 56:15
  compared to Marcus and at Well and broke down the whole situation to both of
• 56:20
  them. So you can go back and check that out. But here's what
• 56:22
  we got titled break it down for us Man. What do you see?
• 56:24
  Yeah, I probably go Pittman. He practiced, but you can't go wrong
• 56:28
  with Poke at all either. As far as this, Yeah, so hate
• 56:30
  Stafford like we thought, like Carr, still likes Kyrien Williams even though they
• 56:35
  put up thirteen points. Was just assuming probably one touchdown unlest they miss a
• 56:39
  field goal. I don't know how to run the sims the percentage of that,
• 56:42
  but still likes Kyroen, which definitely makes sense. A lave positive value
• 56:46
  Camaraw that's interesting. Still in a winning script they don't like, which I
• 56:50
  didn't love Kamara anyway, but when you look at the ownership, it makes
• 56:53
  sense. Go to the other side of the chalk. But yeah, I
• 56:55
  didn't love it. Saints d that totally makes sense. Shaheed. There you
• 57:00
  go. So if you think the Saints win, these secondary let's let's see,
• 57:05
  like taste them below and stuff like that, or all these tight ends
• 57:07
  down below too. Yeah, all these guys, if you think Saints win,
• 57:10
  get heavier on the Saints. People want to go to the ram side
• 57:14
  and all these guys at their ownership because they are coming in. I don't
• 57:17
  know if I guess, I don't know if Jamal is gonna be five percent
• 57:20
  or four percent, etc. But it's still like some way more at like
• 57:23
  fifteen sixteen percent, which would be overweight. So yeah, what I'm taking
• 57:28
  out of is if you think Saints keep it close, go heavier on the
• 57:30
  Saints because a lot of people want the Ram side. Yeah, and even
• 57:34
  here, like you go, if you go car with Olave and Shaheed,
• 57:37
  that's pretty interesting bill that not many people are gonna have. And then yeah,
• 57:40
  you got to make other stuff work on the other side and maybe punt
• 57:44
  one guy or go down to a like a Robinson Higbee type thing where they're
• 57:47
  not popping as much, but they're still popping as potential leverage here. So
• 57:52
  I don't hate looking at some of that stuff. After who anything you want
• 57:54
  to take away from this one and then give us a score that you want
• 57:57
  to look at, or just one you you've got your mind and you said,
• 58:00
  how you see this game plan out, let's look at it. What
• 58:02
  what's that score you're seeing tonight? The one thing that stands out as the
• 58:07
  Kamara stuff, I think it's somewhat interesting that you know, he's not not
• 58:12
  showing up well you know in these sort of games, it's ten eight.
• 58:15
  I mean he's got a big boy price tag and you put him in the
• 58:19
  captain. He's sixteen too, So yeah, maybe I don't get as much
• 58:23
  Kamara as I kind of initially thought. We'll see though you probably you probably
• 58:29
  won't. But just a quick note on that Walker looked horrible on Monday too,
• 58:31
  right, Yeah, like it's always gonna be that. It's just you
• 58:34
  are playing the game. Theory leverage angle going there. You just have to
• 58:37
  know that when you're you're challenging the tools like this for sure. Yeah,
• 58:40
  I like something like this twenty eight to seventeen, somewhere in that range.
• 58:45
  Okay, eight seventeen. Yeah, you're gonna if you want Kamara, you're
• 58:49
  probably gonna have to force him in. And yeah, which makes sense.
• 58:52
  I mean it's Alvin Kamara that can catch ten passes, like you can see
• 58:55
  the script, but you're gonna have to probably force it for sure. Yes,
• 59:06
  I will say when I ran so I ran just ran that one fifty
• 59:07
  with just like changing nothing. It actually got a lot of kicker Captain.
• 59:14
  So like, you know, it's just because the top end guys are projecting
• 59:17
  very well, there's no value and it wants those top end guys in there.
• 59:22
  The most reasonable way to do that is kicker captain. It was like
• 59:25
  eleven percent on one of the I think the RAMS guy was in there eleven
• 59:30
  without changing anything. The RAMS guy was in there like eleven percent, which
• 59:31
  is wild, no risk that much, no risk. I'm playing it tonight.
• 59:36
  Yep. Oh, you got to just throw them up the top there,
• 59:38
  Lucas, So put put him in. Here's your score, hoop.
• 59:42
  You got Kira Williams bumps now to sixty, so we finally got someone there.
• 59:45
  But it's Stafford drops a little bit at captain. So basically it loves
• 59:51
  cheering at the captain, loves your guy, Pooka, like, this is
• 59:52
  setting right up your alley. This is what you want to see and this
• 59:54
  is exactly the guys you're in love with too. So I think anything else
• 59:59
  that stands out here an else you're noticing with this one. Nick Kamara again
• 1:00:01
  you know, not showing up as a solid play. It's you know,
• 1:00:06
  very very interesting kickers coming in at a pretty high rate thirty three twenty eight,
• 1:00:10
  which we kind of talked about like if you're playing Karen Williams and stat
• 1:00:15
  or Karen Williams and Nikiya, who's the other expensive dude? You know,
• 1:00:20
  a lave a cup if you're playing all those guys up top, like you're
• 1:00:23
  gonna just get the kickers at are pretty high rate. The defenses are shown
• 1:00:27
  at a decent rate, as you can see right there. So yeah,
• 1:00:30
  kind of what you'd expect. And the chat does like the over big time,
• 1:00:34
  so we could get that under double kicker game too. Laser says it
• 1:00:37
  right. Double Kicker Night could definitely be the thing where we set it up
• 1:00:40
  that way. You know, that could work too in some angles where if
• 1:00:44
  you got you know whatever, it might be where you got a four to
• 1:00:47
  two or a five to one, if you're going hoops angle on the rams
• 1:00:50
  side where you still just have the kicker coming back because there is you know,
• 1:00:53
  car failed drives and yes, o Lave could rack up the points,
• 1:00:57
  but if it needed, if the other guys beat them all on the other
• 1:00:59
  side, it's all that stuff. And someone said two for what it's worth,
• 1:01:02
  Pittman drew was a full practice today and go pull the full practice report.
• 1:01:06
  So definitely something to think about their title. Final thoughts from you before
• 1:01:09
  we get out of here. Man, we went an hour. We went
• 1:01:12
  through quite a bit for this slight. I think it's gonna be a fun
• 1:01:14
  one tonight. Anything else you've got to add before we get out of here.
• 1:01:16
  I thought we broke it down in a lot of different in a lot
• 1:01:19
  of good ways. I mean, values stinks. So defense kickers are gonna
• 1:01:22
  get more ownership than they usually do, especially when you want to play the
• 1:01:27
  great captains who are expensive. They're Hien Williams, the Pukahs, the Cups
• 1:01:30
  of the world. So if you are playing those captains, which we still
• 1:01:34
  do like, think of how you can get different. We talked about the
• 1:01:37
  Higbees, the Taysom Hills, the DeMarcus Robinson's, etc. The world.
• 1:01:40
  But the more I do like kicker captain. We mentioned it earlier, but
• 1:01:44
  I like that. I like the kicker and defense captains even more in smaller
• 1:01:47
  field stuff, when again you don't need the stone cold nuts and you don't
• 1:01:51
  need to get as crazy. Like I said, if you plug in kicker
• 1:01:53
  captain in that large field ninety eight thousand people tournament and you leave zero dollars
• 1:01:59
  in salary, four hundred dollars. I don't think that's going to be a
• 1:02:01
  different even though they might be three percent on a captain, et cetera.
• 1:02:06
  That's still a lot of people. When you're taking ninety eight, almost three
• 1:02:08
  thousand people are still doing that. So yeah, I mean, we always
• 1:02:13
  talk about when you win, how much do you win? That's why we
• 1:02:15
  talk about ways to get different. Today's a really important day, I think,
• 1:02:19
  because no one really wants to go down below. Leaving salary is always
• 1:02:22
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• 1:02:25
  good one in the dome, pretty close spread and I Hoop on the rams
• 1:02:30
  it makes a lot of sense twenty eight to seventeen something like that. I
• 1:02:34
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• 1:02:37
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