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How Much Is Too Much For A Tour Ticket? Interpolation & Sampling - #70 · The Grounded Show

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No, but I know it's you know, everybody's different situation. But I'm
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quick with the block. Yeah, facts, Hey man, that's been a
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big topic lately, like just even like you know, it's been like cornalized,
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which to me is like it's been turned corny, but like cornized.
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Na, it's been cornalized. My bad, you know, my nose can
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just that I be sounding crazy lately. Dog here, but yeah, that
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protect your peace thing, it's become like kind of like a corny saying.
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But dog, that's a big, big crucial thing, a big important thing
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that a lot of people be discounting. Man. And like people always ask
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me like, oh man, like you know, they ask me like how
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I'm leading the type of life I am as far as like cause I'm so
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at peace that people recognize it, you know what I mean, And they
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always asking me. And it's like, bro, like I don't do anything.
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I don't feel like I do anything crazy. I just value my life
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and my piece my family, like I value that above anything, like unapologetically.
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You know what I'm saying. I don't care about you and your house.
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I don't care about that. I don't care about that. I care
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about me first, I care about my family first. I care about what's
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going on in my home first, and then I go out from there,
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you know what I mean. Anything else it has to fit into my life,
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you know what I mean. I'm not fitting into anybody else's life,
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you know what I mean. And I feel like that's something we've been talking
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about in the chat, like personally, like us three, as far as
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like just different things that have been coming up and just things that we've been
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talking about, Like, Bro, you know, we're lucky enough to kind
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of have understanded that, you know what I'm saying, But there's so many
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people that are just in constant turmoil because they just don't understand that they own
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their lives, you know what I'm saying. Right, it's a big thing.
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But yeah, man, that's a heavy start. But we backed this
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episode seventy, right, damn seventy episodes. See, this is the farthest
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I've ever gone on any podcast, most consistent have ever been. I'm glad
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we've still going. It's like nothing now, its habitual. I'm ready for
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the next thirty to hit one hundred. It's going to be major. Let's
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get it. Yeah, I got seventy songs out. Yo. It's super
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dope too, because, like you're moving back here before the end of the
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year, Quincy is still real close. So we're gonna be able to,
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like you said, Joe, we're gonna be able to collaborate more. We're
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gonna be able to get more stuff done. The podcast has been doing real
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well on YouTube and it's been growing every week. Man, It's just dope,
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and it kind of goes into something that we've all been talking about lately,
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just the consistency thing, you know, something that always comes up in
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the podcast, Like y'all know, there's some weeks that we're not feeling it
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as much as other weeks. There's something that it might be an inconvenience to
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record, you know what I mean. But we're still here, we're still
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doing it. People are still getting value from it, and it's kind of
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like we always talk about, it's one of those things that if it catches
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your ear, it's gonna be real beneficial, I feel like, and we
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just got to keep keep striving to keep going. Man. I'm actually peeling
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the curtain back a little bit with my music. After I opened the Nail,
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after me and my wife opened a nail salon. My budget for my
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music shrunk like almost to zero, you know what I'm saying, because all
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my money was going into the salon, the equipment, the location, the
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renovations, everything, because I kind of figured, like, let me,
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let me try to do as much with my money as I can, so
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that once the money starts coming in, I'm not paying stuff back, you
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know what I mean, Like it's just going straight to my pocket. The
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business plump exactly. And then so the reason why I haven't quote unquote fell
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off is because the way I was doing the music thing was with consistency and
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organically. So what happens is a lot of artists what they do is they
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paid for publication, they paid for playlists, they pay for notoriety, and
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that doesn't necessarily translate to fans. That translates to exposure the wave. Shout
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out to Freddy Man and shout out to his company l A YG the way
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we've not yo, it's funny as hell because that's what I thought it was
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too. That's what I think it is today. So it's not yo.
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No. And one time I told Freddy, I'm like YO with the lag.
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You know what I'm saying, and he was what are you talking about.
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I'm like what, bro like And we went back and forth a little
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bit and he's like, oh, you mean my company. I'm like,
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yeah, bro, he said no, no, it's l a YG.
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Learn as you go, bro. I did not know that, and so
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he pulled up with a shirt and it looked like a movie trailer. Oh
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yeah, I got one of those. This fires hard. It's hard.
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And when he pulled up, I was like, that's pretty dope and he's
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like, oh this, yeah, this is l a YG and I was
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like, you bring your mic up a little. I was like, he
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was like, this is l a y G. And I was like,
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oh, it's not AG you know what I mean like that, but go
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ahead, let's go a G and catch me out on But yeah, when
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I was talking to him, I'm like, man, I'm real happy that
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ever since we've shrunk the budget to basically zero, as far as the promo
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goes, I didn't lose much traction like on Spotify, Apple Music with the
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fans and everything. And he's like yeah, because we've been doing everything organic,
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it's been no playlist and it's like real people adding your music to their
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libraries. So even though you're not necessarily attracting new fans right now, but
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you already got your fans locked in, you know what I mean. So
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when I'm ready to give a big push for the project, I'm dropping next
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year. I'm working on the album I'm actually working on doing. It's okay
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and dear Mary Jane and Spanish and Portuguese to drop those And once I get
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back on the back doing that and getting back on the promo, then it's
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just gonna keep adding fans, you know what I mean. But the reason
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I said that was because of the consistency. If I wasn't doing it the
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right way, and if I wasn't doing the work, as soon as my
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budget would have shrunk, I would have went down to nothing, you know
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what I mean. But since I since that's not the case, the people
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are still locked in, they still asking for music, they still listening,
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they still got me in their libraries. So it's a beautiful thing, you
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know. That's the benefit of doing so exactly. But yeah, man,
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I almost read the first comment on here. As far as like the topics
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and stuff, we'll keep that private. But yeah, the pre show,
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we got to record the pre show something to play like a Patreon one day,
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yo. Fact that thing is just keeps me the tug for one day.
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But yeah, man, it's been a crazy couple of weeks for everybody.
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But like we said, I don't know if we said this before the
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show or during the show, but we've been consistent, We've been not letting
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stuff slide, you know, to the side and everything. So this week
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we're actually gonna get right into the topics, none of the like, you
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know, stuff in the news and stuff, because I kind of feel like
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it's kind of the same same stuff that has been lately, and you know,
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we don't even really got to talk about it. But a topic that
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we kind of left off last week on was the tours and pricing and stuff
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like that, something that Joe brought up a couple of weeks ago, but
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he wanted to wait until we had Quincy on to actually really get into it.
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Yep, No, So what the biggest thing going on aside from actual
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the ticketmaster bullshit with with the way they sell tickets, but the prices of
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tours today. You know, I'm a big tour enthusias I love going to
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console, I love going to shows. I love it. But now I'm
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seeing just to get a simple lower bowl ticket to Drake in twenty one Savage
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one thousand dollars that Bunny dropped. You know, the whole community is going,
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well, why they love him because he's for the people before the people?
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Why are your tickets one thousand dollars or something like in the Laurel Bow,
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I think those blades was three hundred. Yeah, you know what I
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mean. But so what I'm what I'm thinking is what is it is it
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is at the venues that just charge more? Is it the artist that just
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wants to compete? Because so then I go to the list, then I
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go top twenty highest grossing tours of all time. And the reason I go
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to this list is like, are you on that list? Are you?
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You know? Have you done things to warrant it? Because yeah, and
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everybody hates this because everybody loves this guy, and I love him too bad.
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Bunny. I became a fan when he dropped his first album. Wife
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not a huge fan, but we bought tickets to his show the End of
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the The End of the World show in Miami, his last stop on the
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tour last year in April Miami. Right we go, Bro and they was
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whack straight up. And I went with my homie, who has been a
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die hard number one Bad Bunny fan since he spoke a word into a microphone.
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He said, let me tell you so, dude was zoited and booted
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and it was his last show. He's closing out the tour. It's in
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Miami. It's like a third night in Miami at that Saturday night, and
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dude was just like staring into the stars like like and let everybody singing the
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songs just like Borrow zuited and for the amount we paid. And we live
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in Vegas, and we flew to Miami, got the hotel and brick in
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the high rise, went all out to see that show. And my wife
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says she didn't cared less to watch some of the Bad Buddies life. So
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not only ruined my experience, but now her experience. And now I can't
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even pitch him on the show. So I'm like, so what is it?
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Like, what are you doing every single night consistently that deserves the price
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pase. So then I go to the list. Number one, Elton John
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and Me are a billion and that's and that's from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty
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three, he's still the number one in the last twenty years. Mmm.
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Have you ever seen alsonbar as a grossing tour? Yeah? Have you ever
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heard Alton John tour coming in your city or sitting on Instagram? Nah,
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I've I've seen like when he has like international shows and stuff like that,
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but definitely like statewide. I I haven't really heard about that. Three hundred
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shows between twenty eighteen and now three hundred thirty shows. He's almost at a
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billy number two. Taylor Swift's last tour makes sense and one year, seven
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eight hundred billion and they're only in fifty six shows. Bro Okay ed Sheering
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at number three is two year concert twenty seventeen, nineteen two and fifty five
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shows an eighty eight million right then YouTube, Coldplay, every Styles, Guns
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and Roasters, Beyonce Wooning Stones twice two different times, cold Play, Roger
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Waters, eac DC Itallica Edgegeering again in the top fifteen, Madonna Pink You
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to YouTube, Bruno Mars at number twenty. Where's Drake? Where's twenty one?
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Savagehere's bad Buddy? Why are y'all charging that y'all can't even gross these
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numbers that that's what I'm getting. What do y'all think is the price?
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Now? What do you think is worth? Who do you think is worse?
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What do you think the term is there? I have I have a
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response. So so let's say you remember when we went to Rolling Loud.
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Mm hmmm, I think that you said that was your first festival, right,
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like, yeah, right, you remember when we went and what was
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the first thing you said to me? He was like, damn, it's
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mad white people. Right hey, but wait, let me let me get
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where I'm going. Let me say real quick. Okay, So I'm the
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type of person bro, like, I'm looking at the lineup right. This
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this is all hip hop, a lot of Atlanta music, a lot of
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bro this is it's mad hood stuff. Yeah, that's the best way to
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describe it. It's hood stuff, bro. Dog. When I pulled up
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to that Roll in Loud, because like I said, like you said,
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I've never been to Like I'm I would never really went to concerts like that,
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and that was definitely my first festival. So when I pulled up,
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Dog and I seen the crowd, it just didn't even compute in my head,
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Like where are you even listening to this music? At like where are
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you even? Like it was crazy? But go ahead, all right,
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So exactly so to that point, right, have either of you and I'm
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only gonna I'm only asking because I've only been to one and that's what my
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fiance because she's super into musicals. Have either of you ever gone to a
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musical like show, like a live musical musical? Yeah, I have,
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But like my brother used to do a lot of musical performances and stuff like
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that. He was he used to play the lead in a lot of plays
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like in his high school and stuff like that, so like I used to
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go to his story, but I haven't been to like an official Okay,
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So the reason I asked, for the reason I ask is because I remember
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like buying tickets to that specifically for her, I think it was for Christmas
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or for her birthday or something like that, and how expensive it was to
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be in the nose bleeds, right, But when you go, there's a
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lot of white people in the audience like that, that's a great form of
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entertainment for them, And I got I'm going somewhere, so let me get
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there. So when it comes to these concerts and venues and tours, cause
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and I'm speaking from a perspective of I'm literally looking at Saints and Falcons tickets
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right now. That are those bleeds two hundred dollars a pop? You know
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what I mean? Like, when it comes to that stuff, I feel
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like, I think it's not just inflation, but I think there's an income
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gap situation when it comes to entertainment overall. Like I feel like, you
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know, when you think about it, from that standpoint, we already know
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less. You know, when we went to that festival, most of the
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people that was at that festival probably come from a certain background that they have
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the finances to pay for it. And when you're an artist or an entertainer
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and you're trying to get as much money as possible, these people are gonna
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pay no matter what. They're gonna pay because they got it, So why
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not, yo, So check this out. I didn't even think about it.
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I didn't even want to talk about this, But where you just said
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sparked it. I'm not gonna say the name, but I've had the pleasure
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of being around a very big Spanish artist, Puerto Rican artist, and I
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remember one time and then it was through one of my homies, you know,
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what I mean. He was the one that made the connection. He
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had a couple gets togethers that he's invited me, and he was there also
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the artist. So one time we were sitting talking and he was just talking
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about because he's Puerto Rican, he was talking about going to Puerto Rico for
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show, right, and he kind of broke it down like this. He
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was like, the crazy thing is I can go to a country in South
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America. I can sell out a soccer stadium and make two hundred and fifty
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k one night, you know what I'm saying, clean cash, two hundred
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and fifty k. He's like, when I go to Puerto Rico, they
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want me to perform for a thousand dollars or free. They want me to
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be in some random club and they want me to perform for an hour,
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you know what I'm saying. And they want me to go for like a
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thousand dollars and say, hey, you from here, show some love,
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you know what I mean. And it's one of those reasons that they kind
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of like what you're saying, Quincy, and I kind of feel like one
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of the reasons why they do this is because they want their concerts slash performances
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slas experiences to be for a certain crowd, and they don't want it to
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be quote uncle quote dirtied up. You know what I mean. Like a
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lot of times, like kind of like we were talking about with Rolling Loud,
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A lot of times the people that actually listen to your music and is
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really locked in and really understand what you're talking about. They're coming from where
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you're coming from, you know what I'm saying. As far as like like
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we were talking about, like a lot of these Atlanta rappers, they grow
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up in a certain environment, they grow up with a certain situation, and
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if they did concerts for their real crowd, a lot of times what happens,
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shootings, fights, different things, so they kind of price it out
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of the range of what somebody like that could afford to make it a more
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like friendly environment. Like Okay, that's one angle though, but think of
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this here. Wait wait, I was going to I was talking towards Quincy's
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point. Now my take on it is, which I know for a fact,
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this is one of the main reasons, and it goes back to what
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we talked about with Taylor Swift. No, not Taylor Swift, I'm sorry.
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With bad Bunny and Taylor Swift goes into this as well. So Bad
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Bunny and Taylor Swift expensive tours, big artists international, some of the biggest
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artists in the world. A lot of times these people get small, small,
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small percentages of their music, very very very small. Now listen,
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listen. I know this for a fact, Joe, I know this.
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No, no, no, no, this is not the point I was
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going on. I just want to remember my boy. Yes, So they
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make such small percentages off their music that when they're hot, like somebody like
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Bad Bunny is, you have to strike and you have to do these tours.
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You have to charge these prices because a lot of times when you break.
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I think we were talking about it recently because Quincy put in the chat
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the breakdown of how how much money you get from a million streams off each
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streaming service, and I believe the highest one was Napster and how much was
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do you remember, by any chance was it? I want to say it
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was sixteen bands, Yeah, like fifteen sixteen thousand, something around that.
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So imagine a million streams, the people that make that, people that make
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the money off the streams, which is the record label they're making fifteen sixteen
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bands off of it, and you're getting points off of it, and a
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lot of times and when I say points, it's the percentage. A lot
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of times it's a couple points, you know what I'm saying, Like a
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couple percent you're making off of that. So if you say, let's say
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you do one hundred million plays and you're making a couple points off of fifteen
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thousand for each million, you're not making a lot of money. And when
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you think about Taylor Swift, remember when Scooter Braun bought her library, she
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was super pissed one because he was kind of manager. So there was that
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angle there and justin Bieber yep and another angle on that was a lot of
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times with record labels they have this deal with the artists where they'll say,
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we have your masters, which the masters is basically the rights to the music
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slash basically the income you have the masters, you're making the money off of
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it. So we and literally, just like a lot of contracts that are
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still written to this day, it's a master and a slave like in the
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contract. That's how it's really. That's why it's called masters because they have
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the masters because they're the master of the contract. You're the slave of the
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contract. So a lot of times the record labels they do this thing where
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when you sign the contract, they tell you that they're negotiating in good faith
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and they'll give you a chance once they recoup their money, and once you
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start making some money, they'll give you a chance to make your money back.
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I'm not one hundred percent sure on this, but I'm almost hundred percent
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sure that Taylor Swift was pissed also because she wasn't really given a fair shake
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to buy her catalog back. That's exactly what it was before Scooter Braun came
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and got it. So that's why Taylor Swift is re recording all of her
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library. She did and no, yeah, but she's not one hundred percent
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done with it. From what I understand, she dropped it and she's well,
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she's on the top one hundred global in US. Oh yes, right,
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yeah, those songs, those Taylor's song number one is to re recording.
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She is specifically telling her fans do not stream the original versions of my
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stuff because I'm not getting paid off of that. So a lot of times
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what happens with these tours is these artists there and it goes back to what
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we talked about a long time with a long time ago with Bad Bunny.
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Yeah, you can reach that international fame, but you're giving up a lot
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and a lot of times. That thing that you're giving up is the rights
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to your own music. It's like they say, they said, the record
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companies are changing their policies now because of what Taylor Swift did. We're re
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recording her ship and re release like they're like they never thought anybody would ever
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think of that. Yep. And I don't know if we've talked about on
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the podcast, but PM down, you know, we talked about that a
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long time ago Joe, where they had their song which had like a sample
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from spand ballot, you know what I mean, the true sample. They
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weren't able to monetize that because whatever the reason was, I don't know the
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specifics, but they weren't able to monetize. They weren't able to put it
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on streaming. Usually that means they couldn't get the sample clear. I was
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always wondering why I could only listen to it on YouTube. Yep, they
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dropped a new version of it that's also sped up, and I'm sorry,
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but it's trash, trash. I downloaded and I try to listen to it.
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I try to vibeate it because I love that song. But the song
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is trash and why because they use the sample. They couldn't get it clear.
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They don't have the rights to their music. They had to do another
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version to make the money. But people don't like that version. And I'm
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not gonna bring up the next topic now, but I'm gonna just bring it
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up that that's something that artists do as far as using old melodies, old
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sounds, old, how do you say it? Like, not just the
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melodies, but like phrases. They use the same inflection on certain things to
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kind of invoke in people that nostalgia thing, and they're the recognizability of the
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song, and people will like it because it's a sound they're familiar with.
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And it's like, yeah, that works to get in people's ears and spread
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the music, but at what costs, you know what I mean? I
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think that's actually a great transition into that because truthfully, yeah, not like
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that. And for me, I think eight out of ten times that I've
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heard of recreation of a song, I'm sorry, y'all, so I think
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for me, eight out of ten times hearing the recreation of an old song,
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it's not successful, Like, you can't recreate something that I know that
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recreated that are actually not that man. Yeah, yeah, I mean I
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know ten as well. But how many times, bro in twenty twenty three,
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how many remakes have you heard? No real, but but let's let's
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analyze that. Though it's not a remake, it's interpolation, which interpolation is
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different than a remake. Interpretation is where you're taking certain elements like chrona like
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No, I don't know, man, I've definitely, I've definitely, you
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know, for me, at least in my personal opinion, I've definitely heard
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a lot of these versions or you know, of these songs. That's just
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like you're taking away from like from the song. You're reminding me of the
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old song, and I might go back and this the energy by well she
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was the that was not bad, that was not bad, the ones like
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that. But I don't call that a remix the remake. I don't call
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that that remake at all. I call that You're right, I mean,
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remake was definitely not the right word for Check this out. This is my
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this is my exact example that I was gonna bring up Uptown Funk. Bruno
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Mars, all Right, that's not a remake, that's not a cover,
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that's not something that specifically like when you hear that song, you don't specifically
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say, oh, they're copying from this, they're copying from that. Like
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if you listen to a lot of music, you hear the influence. Yeah,
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I do that lot the way that they dog the lawsuits that have sprung
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from that song, So check it out. Gap band. They sued them,
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why because they used a lot of their bro It's hard to really get
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into because it's so much, but there's drum breaks in that song, there's
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melodies in that song. There's instruments in that song, even as simple as
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when he says, don't believe me, just watch and then the trumpet hits.
25:00
That's from Trinidad James, all go to everything, don't believe me?
25:06
Just what That is the same exact melody from Uptown Funk, the same exact
25:12
syllables, the same exact everything. He took that from Trinidad James. He
25:18
took a lot of the elements from the Gap Band, You know what I
25:21
mean. This is something that I've always found very interesting as an artist,
25:29
because it's kind of like this thing, and I always heard it like when
25:32
I was you know, actually when me and Quincy were going to Atlanta a
25:36
lot, traveling a lot. Quincy never went went me to LA but when
25:38
we went. When I would go to these studios and you link up with
25:42
these producers and engineers, they're always trying to push you to go to a
25:47
familiar sound because it's like a scientifically proven thing that people are going to gravitate
25:52
to something that sounds familiar, that reminds them of before. It's like a
25:57
comfort thing, you know what I mean. If I'm singing, it's kind
26:00
of like we talked about with the Mariah Carey Honey song, you know what
26:03
I mean. If I'm somebody that already likes that song and then I hear
26:07
a song that takes little elements from it but not necessarily is completely copying from
26:12
it, it's gonna be a familiar, nice melody to me. So I'm
26:17
going to give it a better chance than if it was something completely new,
26:19
you know what I mean. And that's something as an artist that you always
26:22
struggle with. I It's like do I want to sample this? Do I
26:26
want to kind of chase this sound? Do I want to do this?
26:29
Or do I want to chase my own lane? You know what I mean?
26:32
And I kind of wanted to get y'all thoughts, Like what do y'all
26:33
think about when when these artists take a lot of elements from other songs to
26:38
kind of put together their thing. Do you think it takes away from their
26:41
artistry? Do you think it doesn't matter? Do you think it depends on
26:44
how they do it? Like what do y'all think? A little bit of
26:47
everything? I think it one It depends on how they do it. First
26:49
off, too, it also depends on the amount of it. Like I've
26:52
heard I can't remember who did it, but there is a song, oh
26:59
the Nelly the hot in Here who did a remake somebody did like a thank
27:04
you, Yes, Nlie Chopper did like a version of hot Here. What
27:07
there was almost identical, and it was just like, bro, why why
27:11
did you do that? You know what I mean? Like that to me
27:15
as an artist, it's like you don't see any other kind of art painting,
27:21
photography, videography, any other kind of form of art where people are
27:26
literally like duplicating someone else's form of art, Like yeah, they may take
27:32
aspects. No one ever draws the mona Lisa puts a Yankee fitted on her
27:37
and try to sell it exactly. That's exactly what I'm saying. So that
27:40
for me as an artist is like, that's where you lose. You lose
27:45
me as an artist from that standpoint, because it's like people sample all the
27:48
time, but the point of sampling is to recreate something so that it's new
27:53
again, not to Yeah, I feel like a shout out to DJ Premiere,
27:59
man, he is if people listening to this never heard of DJ Premiere
28:03
or don't really know, he's like basically like when hip hop really was in
28:07
his peak, you know, nineties, early two thousands, he was the
28:11
guy as far as like hip hop production. He was like almost a standard,
28:15
you know what I mean. And what he would do was, you
28:19
know, obviously there's the familiarity in it, but he would take samples from
28:22
stuff and flip them, take little pieces, pitch them up, pitch them
28:26
down, chop them up, and it's almost like you didn't even really know
28:27
where it came from because the way he was manipulating it, it sounded like
28:32
his own thing, you know what I mean. And the thing that happens
28:37
now in my bad. Also, I wanted to shout out Questlove and Scott
28:41
Storch because Quest Love was recently on a podcast. Sorry I don't have the
28:47
name of the podcast, Handy, but basically he I would like to hear
28:51
that. Yeah, he was on a podcast talking about Scott Storge. Scott
28:53
Storch was in the roots when he was very young, and he was saying
28:57
that whenever he would want like kind of like catch the vibe of a song,
29:03
he would play it for like maybe ten seconds, and he would stop
29:07
it and be like, hey, let's do something like this, and then
29:11
the person would be like, hey, let me hear it again, or
29:14
let me hear it longer so I can catch the vibe. And the reason
29:17
why he liked working with Scott is because he could give him the ten seconds
29:21
and Scott would just kind of recreate the vibe with the feel. But it's
29:26
not necessarily He wasn't copying it, you know what I mean, He was
29:30
just giving you the He was a legend. Yeah, bro, he's a
29:33
savant bro. Like as far as music goes, he's a savant man.
29:37
But yeah, he was, and Questlove was very intentional of like, I'm
29:41
only gonna play you ten seconds because I don't want you to catch the cadence.
29:45
I don't want you to catch the exact melody. I don't want you
29:48
to study it. I just want you to give me a feel of it.
29:51
And he liked working with Scott because he felt like he can play him
29:52
ten seconds and he would give him the field, but make it his own,
29:56
you know what I mean. And like I said, as an artist,
30:00
bro like, I've never been big into sampling, I've never been big
30:03
into taking inspiration from other songs, you know what I mean. Like,
30:07
the most I'll do is I'll take like a concept or lyrics from another song
30:15
and give my perspective on it, you know what I mean. But you
30:18
hear my music and you really can't tell because the sound of it isn't the
30:22
same. It's just maybe the topic is the same. You know, what
30:26
was the song you did that was kind of based off of the Goodie Mob
30:30
song Comfortable? Yeah? Yeah, you would have never known like that.
30:36
That's where that stemmed from. And Yo, it's funny that you mentioned that,
30:40
because I wanted to talk to you about this one song that we did
30:41
a long time ago called Justice too. You remember that? Yeah, so
30:45
that song, I actually got the inspiration from the just the Two of Us
30:52
song, you know what I mean. I kind of flipped it into like
30:55
a different idea and kind of, you know, rearranged it to make it
31:00
like a different song. And I want to actually redo that song. That
31:03
songs. All right, I'm glad you reminded me of it, But yeah,
31:07
what do you think about that, Joe? As far as like what
31:08
we've been talking about with artist samples and stuff like that, I was gonna
31:12
say, And what was crazy to me is listening t Paint by your Drink
31:18
right in the video we sent, how much he used and for me either
31:23
loved that bad. Let me let me cut you off real quick, just
31:26
to say this. Te Pain said he basically makes no money off that song
31:32
because he used so many references and melodies from other songs and he's paying yoked
31:38
his ass up, bro, But go ahead. So I'm thinking back to
31:42
that, and I'm thinking about how much I love that song and how I
31:47
probably knew Snap your Fingers two step, I know where that's from. You
31:52
can do it all by yourself, by your drink, Chris Brown, let
31:57
me talk to you let me like, I, yeah, I probably knew,
32:04
but the way he did it was so good that it became a new
32:08
song to me, and I never thought And I could probably hear those songs
32:14
played right after that, and I wouldn't even correlate that, just because they're
32:16
really good songs. But then he's underrated for real. And then I go
32:22
to the Tory lanes version. I know a lot of people who belang with
32:23
Tory Lanez. I get it. But then Tory Lanez did Jerry Sprunger right,
32:29
and he did the kind of same thing, and he made it a
32:32
new song. But when people listen to that song, cause I played it
32:36
for like my wife's friends, and they're like, oh, we want to
32:38
hear the original now because of that, Like whant to hear religion? Like
32:42
if they can take it for me and build it into a whole new song
32:45
and respect the jay z. You made it a hotline. I made it
32:49
a hot song, you know what I'm saying, Like, if you can
32:52
switch it up like that, I will appreciate it. I will always appreciate
32:57
it. Going back to Tory Lanez the Chicks tape, which was him taking
33:00
old R and B songs and flipping them. That's what brought him, Like,
33:05
that's what really like, he did it really well. He did it
33:09
really well. You know, he got his core fan base from that.
33:13
I'm not trying to take anything away from him as far as an artist,
33:15
I'm not trying to take anywhere anything away from Yeah, when he came to
33:17
make it his own music was a little difference exactly, little difference exactly.
33:22
That's kind of what I was going to I'm with that ship too, yeah,
33:24
But so that that's how I feel though, if you can make it
33:28
a new bring new song for me where I know what's where it's coming from.
33:31
But I appreciate what it is now. I accept it now. Kind
33:37
of transition into what Quincy wanted to talk about. Whenever you're an artist,
33:44
and let's say, like for example, with Tory Lanez, like I feel
33:47
like at that time, he kept doing the Chicks tape thing because people was
33:51
responding to it. He kept dropping for them. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
33:58
you know, the audience was telling him that's what we want, so
34:00
that's what he was giving them. So what do you think about artists taking
34:07
the feedback of the fans and turning that into their art. I mean I
34:14
think that that's I think for his example, he did it his way,
34:21
you know what I mean, Like I feel like if you're doing something that's
34:24
not you, then it's kind of like dang you kind of like you know
34:29
what I'm saying, just in the rat race with it, you know what
34:30
I mean. But if you're able to do it your way, which again,
34:35
like you said, the Chicks tape projects were like some of his best
34:37
projects, you know, even for going to t Pain point that Jerry Sprunger
34:44
song, Bro, that's the one crazy so is crazy and and the thing
34:51
is is that the beat was the same he had t Pain on it,
34:54
but he did it his way and it was so dope. And that's why
34:58
to me, that was a successful way of sampling. You know what I'm
35:04
saying. My joint difference is what he did. Difference is hard too.
35:09
That one was my favorite one. But it's like, you know, just
35:12
going to that point, man, you know, I think that when you're
35:15
able to do it your way and put your sound on it. And again,
35:20
if I hear when I hear Jerry Sprunger, I don't hear I'm sprung
35:24
exact same beat, but I don't hear I'm sprung. So that's why that's
35:31
dope. And when it comes to doing what the fans want. From that
35:37
standpoint, it's like, if it works for you and it's your style,
35:40
and you know what I mean, it's your sound, I guess you could
35:44
call it, then I'm here for it. You know what I can name?
35:47
No, Well, okay, a rapper in the group who stuck to
35:51
that forever, Fabulous in the Locks. They have never stopped making the music
35:58
that their core fans won't and that's all they ever cared on. Hold on,
36:02
you can't say no, no, no, I'm not I'm not gonna
36:06
say no, I'm album. I'm gonna push back on the Fabulous one.
36:10
I'm gonna push the Fabulous one. And I'm gonna tell you like this,
36:13
this, this is my reasoning. Fabulous has always been an artist to me
36:21
that he's dope at the time, but he don't have nothing to go back
36:25
and actually be like, yo, this Fabulous hits like you can't like for
36:31
me for me, hold on, hold on, So for me, I
36:36
don't go back and listen to Fabulous because he always sounds like a time you
36:40
feel me. He always sounds like the era that he was in. Because
36:45
Fabulous is a great chameleon. He was always able to flow on whatever.
36:51
He was always able to do his thing. I'm not trying to take anything
36:54
away from him as far as an artist, but looking back, he never
37:00
had a signature sound. He was always in tune with what was going on
37:06
at the time. Oh, I got hold on no No, I got
37:12
facts, my guy, I just can't check this out. Ghetto fabulous right,
37:17
his best album, go for go hold on no, no, no
37:22
no, we go into his I'm going to his best album. What was
37:29
that? He was working with them that tunes and Parrell was telling him,
37:34
Hey, flow like this, Hey use this traded all Yeah, he had
37:39
everything on that ship. When left to his own devices, he was always
37:45
on the wave. He was always on the waves. Gold Tapes one through
37:47
three, Summertime shoot Us one through three. Uh was all dated, all
37:55
dating wave tape. Got some joints on the way data is no way no,
38:04
But that's fine. Greety disagree, But I believe the series of mixtapes
38:09
and the freestyles, the way he just continuously stayed in that lane. I
38:15
could grab for you on any other rappers, Beast and I could rap for
38:20
you on my bets and drop your mixtape of my ship in between. And
38:22
he never failed to me, to me, to me, That's all I
38:29
agree with disagree. But the crazy thing is I always loved. I always
38:32
love whenever Fab drops something and in the time like that year. You know
38:37
what I'm saying. I always bang it, ayo. But whenever I go
38:42
back and listen to it, it never hits. Bro, It never hits.
38:46
It always sounds like like I'm listening to old music. You know what
38:51
I'm saying. I guess what I'm saying, But that's go ahead. You
38:53
feel Jada is that way. That's what I'm saying that the ship that Jada
38:58
comes that way. You still listen to his all music because that's Jada.
39:01
Bro, He's Jadakiss. You can't go back to any hip hop artists and
39:07
say this sounds like Jadakiss. Now you can go Bro, I'm telling you
39:12
listen to anything from any era of Fab, and he sounds like that time
39:16
when the singing came in and the auto tune came in. He started introducing
39:21
it trying to do Bro. He's not a singer. He don't got melodic
39:23
voice. When I heard like When I heard Fab trying to sing and use
39:28
auto tune and stuff, I was like, come on, bro, what
39:31
is this? You know what I'm saying? Like I said, it sounds
39:36
it's crazy because I am a Fab fan, But I definitely don't go back
39:39
and listen to him like a lot of other artists like Dog. I could,
39:43
for example, Jay, you mentioned Jadakiss Dog you listen to still feel
39:45
me? Bro. That stuff they're putting out today that sounds just like that?
39:53
Who else is doing that? And they have never stopped sounding just like
39:58
that. Nas went on the run of continuously saying how he sounds, and
40:01
then he switched and he tried to adjust, and then he's like and now
40:05
he's back, he's sounding how you used to that. That goes back to
40:07
what J Cole was saying. You know when Ja Cole dropped let Nas down.
40:10
And that was literally around the time when I started paying attention to J
40:15
Cole because I was like, oh, letting NOAs down. Let me check
40:16
this out. He said in that song you made, he was telling Nas,
40:22
you made you owe me. I thought you could relate. Basically,
40:25
what he was saying was Nas dropped that song with genuine called you owe me
40:30
where it was him trying to be like training and sounding like what everybody else
40:35
was doing and it flopped hard. Why because it's not not And I love
40:39
that song. Yeah, that's the crazy part. That's the crazy part.
40:44
Like that was like that was Streets Disciple. You know what I'm saying.
40:47
Everybody need the Streets Disciple. Love Streets Disciple, brow me back, like
40:52
you owe your rank this Yeah, and I love that song. But that
40:55
that's what I mean what I mean with about Fab in the Lode and Jade
41:00
in them they continue to making the same music, not stop, but they
41:02
kept that fan base going. They were the most successful at holding the fan
41:07
base of what We're just gonna keep doing this. We're just gonna keep making
41:10
this. Fuck's what's popular today. We're just gonna keep making this over and
41:14
over and over again and if y'all stick with us, giving it to y'all
41:17
pause. I think Fab Jada and the Locks they were like that. I
41:22
don't know, I can't think of another rapper or in a rapper group who
41:27
did that. Yeah, And it kind of goes to like what Rick Rubin
41:30
was saying about what Quincy was talking about, Like as far as like artists
41:34
considering feedback from fans and stuff like that. Like Rick Rubin was basically saying,
41:39
do what you feel. Do what you feel is the dopest thing that
41:45
you can offer, and see how people take it. You know what I'm
41:50
saying, Like, don't let the quote unquote success dictate what you're doing,
41:55
you know what I mean? And kind of like to put a bow in
41:59
this part of the conversation. That's what I feel a lot of people do.
42:01
They go in the studio, they say, how can we guarantee people
42:05
are going to listen to the song? And it works a lot of time,
42:08
bro, Because like I said, it's like it's almost like a science
42:12
to it. So it does work. But at the end of the day,
42:15
bro, like it's not it's it doesn't hit you know what I'm saying,
42:19
Like, it's not gonna give you goosebumps when you hear it, you
42:22
know what I'm saying. I think that's why, you know, I feel
42:25
like the older people get, the more they relate to their time of music,
42:29
because I feel like as more time goes on, the more the music
42:31
business becomes a business ratter than the music, you know what I mean.
42:37
But those people are always gonna bleed through as far as like artists, producers,
42:42
engineers, everybody, what's it called musicians. There's always gonna be people
42:49
that break through because they honestly just love the music, you know what I'm
42:52
saying at the end of the day, bro, Like that's the thing with
42:55
music with me, man, and like it's something that we've talked about on
42:58
the podcast before, like whenever we were moving around and kind of like trying
43:04
to get our foot in the door. As far as the quote unquote industry
43:06
goes, a lot of things that we noticed is like, Bro, this
43:09
ain't about music, you know what I'm saying, Like I know, like
43:13
speaking for me and Quincy is artists, like and I want you to give
43:15
your take also, Quincy, but like you know, the situations we came
43:21
from as far as life goes, like a lot of times music was the
43:23
only escape. That was the only time, like when you put some headphones
43:27
on, it was the only time that you were at peace, bro,
43:30
because it's like so much turmoil going on around you. The music was the
43:34
thing that was therapeutic to you, you know what I'm saying. So like
43:37
we hold music to this level, we hold music to this thing where it's
43:40
like, bro, music is sacred. Bro, There's no way I'm gonna
43:45
go to a studio and be like I want, you know, this generic
43:49
music fan to like my music just because it's music that's appealing, you know
43:52
what I'm saying. It's like sometimes people be like, yo, try to
43:57
make a sound like this. Do this, hey, you know, do
43:59
this sound with bro. If I'm not gonna quote unquote succeed with what I'm
44:05
doing, this wasn't for me, you know what I'm saying. If I
44:08
can't do what I do and people respond to it, then this was not
44:13
my path, you know what I'm saying. And like I said, I
44:15
want your take on that too, Quincy, like as far as like creating
44:20
music and how you wanted to land on people, but also keeping your integrity
44:24
as far as making your music. Nah, I agree with you. I
44:28
mean I think like you know, at the end of the day, for
44:30
me, like music is therapy, you know what I'm saying. Like,
44:32
that's why some of my songs and some of my music is so personal because
44:37
it's like that's how I felt at the time, and that's my way of
44:40
getting that feeling out. Rather than going out and being wild and doing whatever
44:45
it may be. I put it into music, you know, And so
44:49
like trying to make a hit song, that's cool, you know what I'm
44:54
saying. But it's like like you said, man, growing up and doing
44:59
music, It wasn't like I was sixteen years old like man, I want
45:02
to make a hit Like nah, I was like, man, this is
45:05
the only place I can express myself. So that's kind of what you know,
45:08
molded me as an artist. You know, what do you think about
45:13
that, Joe? Just as far as like because even like you were saying,
45:15
like you went to that tour, you wasn't really vibing with it.
45:19
You were mentioning, I think it was last week about the Drake album how
45:22
it didn't really hit you because you kind of felt like it was just an
45:24
album just to make an album, you know what I mean? As a
45:27
fan, like, like I know you because you mentioned it before. You
45:30
can feel when the music isn't made with feeling, you know what I mean,
45:36
Like, how does that? You know? How does that feel for
45:38
you? It comes down to what you said, right, And I love
45:46
music and we talked about I means it takes you back and how mean,
45:50
it makes it feel. So I have I have things that when I through
45:53
my trying times to my downtimes, I know what I was listening to that
45:59
like, listen to that shit today and it takes me back to it.
46:01
Right, So stuff today, and not just not because I'm going through downtimes,
46:08
but when I'm going through high times. There's not music that sticks today
46:15
during those moments that will bring me back to these moments because of the music,
46:21
you know, as before it would so now I could think about it
46:25
having in my memory, Oh that was a great time I had. I
46:29
love that time. But there's not a song that come on to remind me
46:32
of that time recently, anything recent and that that's what I'm getting my haircut
46:39
today and I'm in the chair and they're playing my beautiful, dark twisted Fantasy
46:47
right and I got to sit in the chair through my favorite song, Devil
46:52
in a New Dress right before. And I remember I was sitting in the
46:58
chair, I said, I want to talk to these guys about that right
47:00
before Rick Ross's verse the guitar breakdown, and it was just literally probably a
47:09
minute and a half of pure music plane, no words, no raps,
47:15
nothing, just music playing for over a minute, and just and Just and
47:22
my barber too. My barber's cutting me up like we just vibeing. And
47:27
then Rick Ross comes in looking at my beach up. Bet, you give
47:30
your ass a bone, you know. And today's music cannot do that shit
47:36
no more. They can't just play the track the instrumental for a minute and
47:40
just let you hear that ship and keep you in and oh, I reget
47:45
a verse after this. I haven't felt that ship in a while, man.
47:51
And I don't think artists cared about that shit no more. I don't.
47:53
I don't think they care about it. And the kind of talk about
47:57
something we touched on last week a yo. But Kanye that artistry, man,
48:01
like with the Devil in a New Dress song. Rick Ross gave him
48:05
a verse first, and Kanye said, Rose, I know you could go
48:08
harder. I've heard you go harder. Give me something harder, a yo.
48:14
And what happened He rewrote that verse and like you said, Joe,
48:19
that's your favorite song. If Kanye wasn't, like nah, bro, you
48:22
can go my favorite. That's my favorite part of the whole album even starts
48:30
yep, that's my favorite part of the album. But even the fact that
48:34
you let the verse slide after that, you know you don't skip. You
48:38
might have skipped if Kanye didn't say, Hey, Ross, I know you
48:43
could have a better verse than this, because then Ross comes with that verse.
48:47
I will always let it ride. That's what I'm stereo red, cherry
48:51
yet excess. It's just my character, Like I don't know every single word
48:54
he rapped because I will always wait for him to rap and we'll never know.
49:00
But maybe you wouldn't even have listened to that part. He might have
49:02
just cut it off as anybody else, or if it was nothing there.
49:07
And that's that's the intention, man, That's that's that is why I will
49:13
never bring Kanye lower than three. I'll fluctuating between one and two and three.
49:19
I'll never bring him lower because I've never seen someone care about the artistry
49:22
and the way shit sounds and makes you feel in my error and my generation
49:27
more than him ever ever. Yep, he cares about the music as much
49:31
as you care as a fan, you know what I mean. And I'm
49:34
just saying that from all our perspective, Like as a fan, it's like
49:37
it's kind of like the same feeling I get with Travis Scott bro whenever he
49:39
drops an album, I'm interested in hearing it because I know he cares about
49:45
the music. He's gonna make sure he has a sound. He's gonna make
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sure he's gonna he's trying to come with his own twist on a certain sound,
49:53
and he's gonna try to change the game of what he's doing, you
49:57
know what I mean, Travis Scott, Kanye. You know, there's not
50:00
a lot of artists like that, Bro, There's not a lot of artists
50:02
like that. Like, I wouldn't even put Drake in that category because he's
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since oh not like when he came out on the scene, he was changing
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the game, but he's not after that anymore. He's not changing anything anymore.
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He just it sucks. It sucks. Why am too? We were
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readly for you, yo, and you mentioned twenty one Savage earlier and that
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I'm gonna kind of put a bowl on this whole topic with this. Twenty
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one Savage owns a very large percent of his masters, so that's why he's
50:37
not touring like how most artists tour. Why because when his music streams,
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he makes money off of it exactly. So it's a little different when you
50:45
can actually just say, hey, I'm gonna make some music, and when
50:49
you drop it, you know you're gonna get your money's worth. As soon
50:52
as you do it, you're free. Then hey, that's why Russ does
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so well. Yes, exactly exactly, you know, on any of those
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lists. But hey, but the crazy thing is a lot of those people
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Russ might have more money than them, but and he still close it off.
51:13
But I'm gonna say the last thing I forgot to say earlier is that
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the people who are still in the top they weren't. They were charging like
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twenty three dollars for a ticket that But the same thing goes along with the
51:29
top billboard people. They weren't. They didn't have streams back then, there
51:32
was still something. So it's yeah, it's all different and a lot of
51:37
those longevity artists. I don't know the exact legality behind it, but there's
51:42
a certain time that the rights don't revert back to you. But like I
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said, I have to, I have to look it up actually, and
51:51
next time we get on I'm gonna talk about it. But there's basically a
51:54
thing that I believe it's after twenty years or so, twenty five something like
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that, you have an opportunity to get your masters back as an artist.
52:02
So a lot of those artists that you mentioned, our legacy artists, people
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that have been out thirty, forty fifty years, So they get to a
52:08
point where it's like, Okay, now I'm making the money that I that
52:12
I should be making off the music. They can tour because they always see
52:15
a bump in their album sales and the streams and stuff, and it's kind
52:19
of like a win win, especially when you love the music. You're talking
52:21
about. Somebody like Elton John, you two you mentioned as well, Taylor
52:24
Swift you mentioned as well. These are all people that are writing their own
52:29
music. They're musicians. There is exactly they're true artists where they really really
52:35
are tapped into what they're doing and they're really really, you know, from
52:38
the ground up crafting their sound, you know what I mean. And that's
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that's something that you have to respect, you know what I mean, Like
52:45
somebody that cares about their music like that. I mean, that's what it
52:49
is. You know, what's up? We did in the Billboard game I
52:52
need to be Quincy two weeks in a row. It's not dank. I
52:57
drank these Heinnekens, and I forgot about the Bilberg game. So next week,
53:01
yeah, yeah, this week it on You're Lucky Nothing you lucky Lucky
53:10
Ale been in the gym. Yeah, man, hey man, that new
53:20
Call of Duty dropping on the tenth bab I'm off that day. Better's the
53:24
only thing I've taken off In the next two weeks. I'm gonna be on
53:28
let me know, get ready ready ready. But yeah, man, Like
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I mentioned earlier, I'm working on some Spanish and Portuguese versions of some of
53:37
my songs, just really, honestly, man like, as a thank you
53:42
to those fans man. And honestly, today was I don't know if it's
53:45
the Heinekens, but today was like the only the first day that I've really
53:47
said fans. I've always said listen. I've always said listeners and people that
53:53
listen to my music because it feels kind of weird still saying that. But
53:58
ever since the like I said, ever since the promo thing kind of stopped,
54:01
and I've seen how many people have stuck around listening to my music and
54:06
really really enjoy what I do. You know what I'm saying, I'm owning
54:12
it. You know what I'm saying, like I got fans, Bro,
54:14
you know what I'm saying, And once I dropped these projects, I know
54:17
that fan base is going to grow. And kind of, like we've been
54:21
talking about this whole time, the reason why I'm so passionate about music and
54:23
all we're talking about is because it's important to me, Bro, Like,
54:27
my music is super important to me. You know, even when I'm not
54:30
dropping music, or even when you know the social media, Yeah, we
54:34
know, we know because we hear it in the chat. Bro. I'm
54:37
always I'm always in this. This is my studio, bro, Like this
54:39
has been my dream since I was a kid, you know, building a
54:43
studio in my house, being able to create, being able to really lock
54:47
in on this music, and you know, music for me, Bro,
54:52
is a lifetime thing, you know what I'm saying. And like I said,
54:54
Bro, this is all so important to me just because of we've been
55:00
talking about, Like Yo, music is an art and music is something that
55:05
makes people feel a certain type of way. Like you said, Joe,
55:07
music kind of like marks times in your life. It's something you think about
55:12
twenty thirty years later. You hear a song that from your childhood and it
55:15
just brings back all these motions, I mean emotions and well, I think
55:21
as I said during the time where this song was like you know what I'm
55:25
saying that I always state that that's powerful, bro, and being able to
55:31
you know, being able to have that kind of connection like on like a
55:36
cosmic level, bro, Like it's crazy. Man. I really love it,
55:39
and it's something that you know, I'm addicted to. Bro. The
55:42
music is something so important, man, and I think, like I said,
55:45
a lack of the music today and the quality of the intent behind it
55:51
sounds great when we're partying. It sounds great. But they will not bring
55:54
me back to oh twenty twenty three. Will we record an episode seventy?
55:59
I know what song's route. It's not gonna happen. Facts, facts,
56:02
man, But yeah, man, anything y'all want to leave them with almost
56:06
an hour in, you could tell we all drank before this podcast real talk,
56:12
No, man, I think that's really shoot all. We really got
56:15
to stayed. But I've been trying to tell him for a few weeks,
56:16
but you keep cutting me off. But I'm gonna let him know right now
56:19
you better stay him. Pusty Dotty, Pusty dop not Pusty do not put
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pusty. Do not after a not a not day after a