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- 0:03Speaker 1: Welcome to the first ever podcast of the Inverted Footballers.
- 0:08Speaker 1: I'm pretty excited to get into this. We already did
- 0:11Speaker 1: our Arsenal Soul Pod yesterday, me and Ryan, where we
- 0:14Speaker 1: completely just talked about the best club in the world
- 0:17Speaker 1: from North London, the Arsenal. But in this one, we
- 0:21Speaker 1: get in-depth into everything regarding football. And I'm pretty excited
- 0:27Speaker 1: to talk about it because we are fairly new into
- 0:30Speaker 1: just our fandom of soccer, of my bad, of football,
- 0:34Speaker 1: of the real football and our fandom of football. And honestly,
- 0:39Speaker 1: it's been a wild ride. It's been amazing. There's been some.
- 0:43Speaker 1: It's crazy. There's games every day, bro. Yeah, but it's
- 0:45Speaker 1: not even that. Yeah, there's games literally every day. I'm
- 0:48Speaker 1: watching at least 30 games a week. I'm not even
- 0:50Speaker 1: going to lie to anybody. Like, I'm not lying to
- 0:52Speaker 1: anybody when I tell you this.
- 0:53Speaker 2: Bro, he's not.
- 0:54Speaker 1: Like, literally, he'll sit to the group chat going crazy.
- 0:57Speaker 1: We have a group chat for football. Yeah, I'm watching.
- 0:59Speaker 1: I'm pretty locked in on Serie A. I'm pretty locked
- 1:03Speaker 1: in to Premier League, every Carabao Cup. Even the Championship, bro.
- 1:06Speaker 1: He goes crazy on the Championship. I'm watching the Championship
- 1:09Speaker 1: right now, MLS. Like, if there's a game on, I'm
- 1:12Speaker 1: watching it. I can't really watch the Liga because I
- 1:15Speaker 1: don't feel like paying for the ESPN subscription. I've watched
- 1:19Speaker 1: some of the Liga. I've watched a couple. Atletico's my
- 1:22Speaker 1: new team, actually. I mean, I like Atletico because my
- 1:26Speaker 1: boy Jonathan David's there. And then, obviously, the USA man himself,
- 1:30Speaker 1: Johnny Cardoso, is also on the Atletico Madrid team. But, yeah,
- 1:36Speaker 1: it's been a wild ride, and especially ESPN. Some of
- 1:39Speaker 1: the news coming out of Man City, which we're going
- 1:41Speaker 1: to get into here later, that's been crazy. Obviously being
- 1:44Speaker 1: part of the best club in the entire world, the Arsenal,
- 1:47Speaker 1: supporting the rise to the top of Austin FC. So
- 1:50Speaker 1: we're fairly new into this, so don't expect in-depth analysis.
- 1:54Speaker 1: Just expect two guys that love the sport just talking
- 1:57Speaker 1: about the sport. That's really all it's going to be about.
- 1:59Speaker 1: So what are you feeling?
- 2:00Speaker 2: We just love it. Yeah, I'm excited to hop into this.
- 2:04Speaker 2: I feel like it's like one of, It's just that
- 2:07Speaker 2: first pod feeling, you know? Like, whenever you ever first
- 2:10Speaker 2: record something, whenever you first hop on, that's how I feel.
- 2:12Speaker 2: I'm just ready to cover football. I'm excited, you know?
- 2:16Speaker 2: Just to dive into everything. And, yeah, just talk ball. Like,
- 2:20Speaker 2: for our newfound love of the beautiful game.
- 2:23Speaker 1: The world's game. Definitely. Like, I don't... Like, I always
- 2:28Speaker 1: had a rule why, like, basketball was my favorite sport. Because...
- 2:32Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, I'm the most diehard Spurs fan you'll
- 2:35Speaker 1: ever meet. Not Tottenham Spurs. We hate Tottenham. But the
- 2:38Speaker 1: San Antonio Spurs.
- 2:39Speaker 2: San Antonio Spurs.
- 2:40Speaker 1: I'm a super diehard. But also because I can play
- 2:42Speaker 1: the game, go outside, pick up a basketball, shoot it,
- 2:45Speaker 1: and I find total joy from doing that. And I
- 2:48Speaker 1: never got that same thing from football, like American football.
- 2:51Speaker 1: But if we look into the real football, the beautiful game,
- 2:53Speaker 1: soccer in America, I found that love, that passion that
- 2:58Speaker 1: I have for basketball within this sport because... Playing it
- 3:02Speaker 1: with the boys on Sundays is just fire. It brings
- 3:06Speaker 1: a different adrenaline. We suck, but honestly, we don't suck
- 3:09Speaker 1: that bad. I'm not going to lie to you. We
- 3:11Speaker 1: were pretty good. We were giving comp, just being more
- 3:14Speaker 1: athletic and having more endurance than them. That's really what
- 3:17Speaker 1: it was. But then we picked it up pretty quick.
- 3:19Speaker 1: I think that's what made me dive deeper in love.
- 3:21Speaker 1: And then even like obviously we caught the World Cup book.
- 3:24Speaker 1: Me and Ryan definitely caught the World Cup book. We
- 3:27Speaker 1: caught it like crazy. Dude, we're on fire and we're
- 3:31Speaker 1: running with it. We literally started a whole damn podcast
- 3:33Speaker 1: because of it. Let's just be honest. Our friends made
- 3:36Speaker 1: fun of us. No, they don't understand. They don't understand
- 3:40Speaker 1: the love for this sport. I'm not a LARP, bro.
- 3:43Speaker 1: I'm dying, bro. I'm dying for this sport.
- 3:46Speaker 2: I reposted the USA win and Ryan O slid up
- 3:49Speaker 2: on my story and said, LARP.
- 3:51Speaker 1: And I was like, this guy. I'm not a LARP.
- 3:54Speaker 1: We're dialed into USA Men's Soccer. I'm not going to lie.
- 3:57Speaker 1: We're dialed. Bring me someone. Bring me, besides the professionals,
- 4:01Speaker 1: who is more dialed in than us into the USA
- 4:03Speaker 1: Men's Soccer. We'll go toe-to-toe with anybody right now. I
- 4:06Speaker 1: know that for certain.
- 4:08Speaker 2: I'll be honest. Maybe not history for me. I feel
- 4:11Speaker 2: like you know more USA history than me. But as
- 4:13Speaker 2: of right.
- 4:14Speaker 1: Now, going forward, we're dialed. We're dialed. We're dialed. No,
- 4:19Speaker 1: but yeah. It's been amazing. And dude, I was talking
- 4:24Speaker 1: to Brisa. I remember just, she was asking like, well,
- 4:27Speaker 1: what do you like about it? And I remember like
- 4:30Speaker 1: just talking about Captain Odegaard, you know, and I was
- 4:32Speaker 1: just like the way he just orchestrates the game. Like,
- 4:36Speaker 1: like in basketball, it's so, it's so, obviously there's, there's
- 4:40Speaker 1: a game within a game happening, of course. But at
- 4:43Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's 5v5. And if one
- 4:45Speaker 1: guy takes over, that guy's going to steal the game,
- 4:48Speaker 1: you know, and that can definitely happen in football. That
- 4:50Speaker 1: can definitely happen in, within this sport, but it's not
- 4:53Speaker 1: to the same extent. Like, and then when you look
- 4:55Speaker 1: at American football, it's so stop and go, stop and go,
- 4:59Speaker 1: stop and go. Like there's definitely a tactical switch, but
- 5:02Speaker 1: if a team's just better than the other team, more
- 5:05Speaker 1: than often than not, it's going to be a dominant win.
- 5:07Speaker 1: You know, more often than not, they're just going to
- 5:08Speaker 1: impose their will. Unless like we see things that happen.
- 5:12Speaker 1: We saw tonight.
- 5:14Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 5:14Speaker 1: Tonight, the Buccaneers with on drafted rookie Jalen Daniels takes
- 5:18Speaker 1: over and Leads them to a win versus the Dallas
- 5:21Speaker 1: Cowboys who's had one of the top offenses of all
- 5:24Speaker 1: time literally do nothing to their standards in this game.
- 5:29Speaker 1: This isn't to talk about, but I'll make it an
- 5:31Speaker 1: example here because when you watch football, the beautiful game,
- 5:35Speaker 1: it's just... There's literally a chess match happening. I remember
- 5:40Speaker 1: I was watching Napoli and Arsenal and just watching the
- 5:45Speaker 1: tactical differences. We saw Napoli not even... pressure, an attack,
- 5:49Speaker 1: or a counter. They just literally set everybody in the
- 5:53Speaker 1: back just defending and defending and defending while Arsenal was
- 5:58Speaker 1: literally trying to strike an opening, trying to find any
- 6:01Speaker 1: gap where they messed up, where they could find a
- 6:04Speaker 1: mess up and put it into goal. Dude, I thought
- 6:07Speaker 1: that was just beautiful to watch, watching Arsenal kick the
- 6:09Speaker 1: ball across the pitch, just trying to find the opening. Ultimately,
- 6:12Speaker 1: Captain Odegaard, the orchestrator, the man that leads the symphony,
- 6:17Speaker 1: I don't know what those people are called, But the
- 6:20Speaker 1: director or whatever he is. The orchestrator? It might be.
- 6:23Speaker 1: I don't know. We're trying our best, you guys. But
- 6:27Speaker 1: what he does, players like that just gravitate you towards
- 6:32Speaker 1: the game. And you get those feelings of guys that
- 6:34Speaker 1: can just take over and impose their will. But not
- 6:39Speaker 1: only that, just the tactical advantages that these teams have
- 6:42Speaker 1: over other teams. Just literally watching chess put on a field. Like,
- 6:46Speaker 1: let's just be honest.
- 6:47Speaker 2: A game like that for me, to be honest.
- 6:50Speaker 1: Was the... Was probably, like.
- 6:54Speaker 2: The England and Mexico game that I haven't watched football
- 6:58Speaker 2: for long. But that is, like, the best game I've
- 7:01Speaker 2: ever seen. And I've seen people talk about that game
- 7:03Speaker 2: who've watched football their whole lives. And that was the
- 7:07Speaker 2: best game they've ever seen. Also, Cabo Verde and Argentina.
- 7:13Speaker 1: That, like, dude, these.
- 7:15Speaker 2: I don't know that those games, just how, how skilled
- 7:18Speaker 2: these players are and how insane you have to be.
- 7:22Speaker 2: People don't realize how crazy it is. You have to
- 7:24Speaker 2: be with your feet. Like you can't use your hands,
- 7:27Speaker 2: but it's insane to me, like how skilled they are.
- 7:31Speaker 2: And just, we've seen, Josh has been sending me videos
- 7:34Speaker 2: of Ryan Cherokee where he just, I don't know. He's
- 7:37Speaker 2: so skillful and it's just so fun.
- 7:39Speaker 1: To watch, but yeah. No. Yeah. I remember I was watching, um,
- 7:45Speaker 1: Ronaldinho like real earlier today and it almost literally brought
- 7:50Speaker 1: tears to my eyes bro like just how beautiful he
- 7:53Speaker 1: was moving with the ball at his feet like I'm
- 7:55Speaker 1: not even exaggerating right now like I was just like
- 7:57Speaker 1: whoa like to be like imagine watching that live like
- 8:02Speaker 1: imagine being able to sit on your couch have the
- 8:04Speaker 1: game on and you saw Ronaldinho just just the the
- 8:08Speaker 1: dancing feet that he has bro like that would have
- 8:11Speaker 1: that probably was amazing to see like and I know
- 8:14Speaker 1: that You see little glimpses. Definitely, at least in a
- 8:19Speaker 1: couple of these games, you just see him do some
- 8:22Speaker 1: crazy things. Lamin Yamal off the right side, just putting
- 8:26Speaker 1: the ball with that left foot inside so beautifully. I
- 8:29Speaker 1: already talked about Catherine Odegaard and his orchestration of the team.
- 8:33Speaker 1: They're leading the symphony. Yeah, there's just players like that
- 8:36Speaker 1: that you gravitate towards. Like Califuri. Obviously, we're Arsenal fans,
- 8:40Speaker 1: so we're going to hype up Arsenal. But just watching
- 8:42Speaker 1: what he can do. is kind of insane, just up
- 8:45Speaker 1: and down the field. And that's just a little bit
- 8:47Speaker 1: of an aspect of why we've fallen in love. It's
- 8:49Speaker 1: not just because of the World Cup. It's because the players,
- 8:53Speaker 1: the managerial aspect, the tactics. The passion of the fans.
- 8:56Speaker 1: The passion of the fans is really what gets me to,
- 8:59Speaker 1: and the storylines, like Como. We have fallen in love
- 9:02Speaker 1: with Como because first time in the Champions League, Cesc Fabregas,
- 9:06Speaker 1: Arsenal legend, leading the boys to this title. place where
- 9:10Speaker 1: they've been haven't been in a long time it's literally
- 9:13Speaker 1: been such a fast turnaround for como and we've literally
- 9:16Speaker 1: started supporting them i don't know about 5 30 in
- 9:19Speaker 1: the morning for ryan but i'm definitely gonna try waking
- 9:21Speaker 1: up to watch that game bro i'll watch highland yeah
- 9:25Speaker 1: well i guess like let's get into a topic let's
- 9:28Speaker 1: just open it up real quick let's go over some
- 9:31Speaker 1: of the games in the premier league obviously man city
- 9:34Speaker 1: is number one on the table right now but We'll
- 9:36Speaker 1: get into why we feel like that's kind of like,
- 9:39Speaker 1: I don't know, aspect of football right now later. But
- 9:44Speaker 1: number two is obviously the Arsenal. It should be number one.
- 9:46Speaker 1: But losing to number three, Brighton, does not help your
- 9:49Speaker 1: chances in that case. And Brighton's look pretty good. And
- 9:54Speaker 1: then ah fourth who's fourth i just went completely blank
- 9:57Speaker 1: right now and this is the table right here brentford
- 10:00Speaker 1: brentford yeah and brentford been been really good as well
- 10:04Speaker 1: but there's been a lot of just crazy good games
- 10:07Speaker 1: to watch and i think one game me and you
- 10:09Speaker 1: both are excited for is sunderland versus brighton so like
- 10:12Speaker 1: what's your thoughts going into that game.
- 10:14Speaker 2: Yeah right before this we just talked about it um Brighton,
- 10:18Speaker 2: this exciting team. I obviously didn't catch much of last season,
- 10:24Speaker 2: but from what I've seen, they're exciting. They have a
- 10:27Speaker 2: young striker in the Greek national, Kousalis, if I said
- 10:32Speaker 2: that right. And then Pascal Gross, who's been playing out
- 10:35Speaker 2: of his mind. PFA Team of the Year type.
- 10:39Speaker 1: Vuskovic on the defense.
- 10:40Speaker 2: Yeah, Vuskovic on defense. They've been playing insane. We saw
- 10:43Speaker 2: what they did to the Arsenal team. 3-0 victory, and
- 10:46Speaker 2: they just had that defense on their heels at all times.
- 10:50Speaker 2: And I think Sunderland, if you go back and watch
- 10:54Speaker 2: that game, yes, they're 14th in the table. They're bottom
- 10:57Speaker 2: of the table, but I don't think that matters whatsoever.
- 11:01Speaker 2: We saw what they were able to do against the Arsenal.
- 11:05Speaker 1: Leap, like, It had to be won by a Bruno.
- 11:09Speaker 2: Yeah, it had to be won by a Bruno golasso.
- 11:13Speaker 2: That's how hard they played the Arsenal from what I've
- 11:17Speaker 2: seen from Sunderland. And they have one of the best
- 11:19Speaker 2: physical nines in the game, strikers, in Brian Bravery. That dude,
- 11:25Speaker 2: he's insane. He's so big, bro. The battle between him
- 11:31Speaker 2: and Ezri Conta was insane to me. Like the way
- 11:35Speaker 2: that he was just holding off Ezri constant and they
- 11:37Speaker 2: were constantly fighting. I think that's going to be so
- 11:39Speaker 2: fun to watch between Brighton and Sunderland as well as
- 11:44Speaker 2: Granit Xhaka. Shout out ex-Arsenal player. They had some beef
- 11:48Speaker 2: when they were playing. But yeah, I think this is
- 11:51Speaker 2: going to be a really good game. It's one that's
- 11:54Speaker 2: on my list to watch. They also have someone who
- 11:58Speaker 2: Arsenal was going after, Malik Fofana, who I think is a.
- 12:01Speaker 1: Young up-and-coming star. He was, yeah, before he... They put
- 12:04Speaker 1: him away from Lil. Yeah.
- 12:07Speaker 2: So, yeah, I'm really excited to watch that game. And
- 12:10Speaker 2: I just get excited for all these games, bro.
- 12:13Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. For me, it's a lot of the same reasons.
- 12:15Speaker 1: Daniel Ballard, former Helen boy, Granit Xhaka. Brobbery, like you
- 12:19Speaker 1: were talking about. Vuskovic, this gross. The same guys. Like, obviously,
- 12:23Speaker 1: we're all excited to watch the Stars play always. But
- 12:26Speaker 1: it's just the way these two teams play that you
- 12:28Speaker 1: kind of get excited for the matchup. Like, Brighton, I'm
- 12:31Speaker 1: not saying that they're really imposing a physicality much like
- 12:34Speaker 1: the Sunderland were doing. But they definitely are relentless. They're aggressive.
- 12:38Speaker 1: They attack and attack and attack. And they're coached very well. Like,
- 12:43Speaker 1: we saw it firsthand in Arsenal. And they're willing to
- 12:45Speaker 1: take chances. And that's how they scored all their goals
- 12:47Speaker 1: versus the Arsenal. It was beyond the box. They were
- 12:50Speaker 1: really good goals. Hard bangers for David Raya to get to.
- 12:54Speaker 1: The defense was kind of not stepping up as well. Sunderland,
- 12:57Speaker 1: we know their defense is going to step up. They're
- 12:58Speaker 1: going to put a body on you. With Daniel Ballard
- 13:00Speaker 1: and Granit Xhaka, big bodies everywhere. And I think that's
- 13:05Speaker 1: the exciting part of the matchup we're willing to see
- 13:08Speaker 1: is physicality versus... controlled aggression. That's what I want to
- 13:12Speaker 1: call it. I really do think that this matchup is
- 13:15Speaker 1: going to be fun to watch just because of those
- 13:16Speaker 1: two reasons alone. I'm really excited to see who comes
- 13:20Speaker 1: out on top because Sunderland isn't this goal-scoring machine, but
- 13:23Speaker 1: they are definitely a defensive masterpiece. I think they'll play dirty.
- 13:28Speaker 1: They'll do the hard things, and they'll hold a good
- 13:31Speaker 1: team like Brighton. They'll hold them to a 1-0 victory.
- 13:39Speaker 1: And Brighton, along on the other side, could just impose
- 13:42Speaker 1: their aggressiveness, their relentless pressure on goal, and possibly walk
- 13:46Speaker 1: away with a big dub versus Sunderland. And it could
- 13:51Speaker 1: do them real justice walking away with a win and
- 13:53Speaker 1: continue to stay at the top of the table.
- 13:56Speaker 2: Yeah, also it's being played at the Stadium of Light,
- 13:58Speaker 2: one of the hardest places to play.
- 14:00Speaker 1: And I feel like.
- 14:02Speaker 2: Every away game is hard for these teams. Just because
- 14:06Speaker 2: of how passionate the fans are, I feel like we
- 14:08Speaker 2: don't talk about that much in American sports where you're like, Oh, they're,
- 14:12Speaker 2: they're playing away. Like whenever I hear people talk about
- 14:15Speaker 2: it online, they're like, Oh, I remember that game, uh, Arsenal,
- 14:19Speaker 2: whenever so-and-so player scored, uh, against Chelsea away.
- 14:25Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
- 14:26Speaker 2: Like, Oh, like away games are so significant. Like whenever
- 14:29Speaker 2: you have a home game, it's so significant for the
- 14:31Speaker 2: team just because of the passion. And I think that's
- 14:33Speaker 2: so awesome to see. Um, We saw the Arsenal go
- 14:36Speaker 2: into the stadium and blight and how that impacted them.
- 14:41Speaker 2: Playing against the fat rat, you saw how they hated him. So, yeah,
- 14:48Speaker 2: I think that's going to be a really good game
- 14:49Speaker 2: to watch and to keep our eyes on.
- 14:53Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think the next game we probably should
- 14:54Speaker 1: get into is what people are calling El Sacico because
- 14:58Speaker 1: between Tottenham, which we hate Tottenham and Manchester United, where
- 15:04Speaker 1: it's Michael Carrick and Deservey both on the hot seat
- 15:08Speaker 1: right now, both literally fighting for their jobs. I don't
- 15:11Speaker 1: know how serious it is within the walls of their
- 15:14Speaker 1: respective clubs, but definitely we will have a lot of
- 15:20Speaker 1: questions answered in this one, like who's the guy that's
- 15:23Speaker 1: really going to fall through the cracks and ultimately lose
- 15:26Speaker 1: his job, I think, by midseason, if not. after this game,
- 15:30Speaker 1: because both have had really rough starts up to this season.
- 15:33Speaker 1: Tottenham didn't even score a single goal until this last one.
- 15:37Speaker 1: And they still ended up losing that game. And then
- 15:41Speaker 1: in Manchester United, where you expect them to kind of
- 15:45Speaker 1: build off how they ended last year with Michael Carrick
- 15:47Speaker 1: taking over, it just really has not happened for them. Yeah,
- 15:51Speaker 1: it's stalled out. Yeah, it's definitely. And Bruno Fernandes, outside
- 15:55Speaker 1: of a couple instances, really has not, like, been the
- 15:59Speaker 1: same player that he was last year when it comes
- 16:02Speaker 1: to just completely taking over games. Yeah.
- 16:06Speaker 2: I think this is going to be a bloodbath. Not
- 16:09Speaker 2: in a good way. Obviously, Tottenham hasn't been very good there.
- 16:16Speaker 1: At the bottom. And they spent a lot of money.
- 16:18Speaker 2: That is the insane part. They spent money on Tonali.
- 16:22Speaker 2: They spent money on Savio. They spent money on Marmouche.
- 16:26Speaker 2: They spent money on... On Fernandez.
- 16:29Speaker 1: On the literal attack.
- 16:30Speaker 2: On Mateus Fernandez. They spent money on everyone, every position
- 16:34Speaker 2: they could. They even re-signed Mickey Van Dan, I believe. And, yeah,
- 16:39Speaker 2: I don't know. They look horrible. They can't get nothing going. And,
- 16:45Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not mad at it.
- 16:46Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not mad at it at all. Keep on going, boys. Yeah,
- 16:51Speaker 1: they just look bad. 2-8.
- 16:52Speaker 2: They're negative 6 in goal differential.
- 16:57Speaker 1: So that's horrible.
- 16:58Speaker 2: That is the second worst in the league behind Coventry City,
- 17:02Speaker 2: who's newly promoted. So they have an excuse. And they're
- 17:06Speaker 2: playing without one of their best players, Haji Wright. Shout out, USA.
- 17:12Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't.
- 17:14Speaker 2: See Tottenham doing anything in this game. As for Man U,
- 17:21Speaker 2: I want to see them do good, if I'm being honest,
- 17:24Speaker 2: as a fan of the prims. I want to see
- 17:26Speaker 2: them do better. I want to see Bruno ball out.
- 17:30Speaker 2: I want to see Kobe.
- 17:32Speaker 1: Mano.
- 17:33Speaker 2: I don't know how to say his name. I want
- 17:35Speaker 2: to see a young and upcoming star do better. The
- 17:41Speaker 2: new signing of Uri Tillemans, who everyone thought was going
- 17:44Speaker 2: to be a signing that just changed how they played
- 17:49Speaker 2: and everything. And then Marcus Rashford. He's one of mine
- 17:51Speaker 2: and Josh's favorite players. He's been kind of injured recently,
- 17:55Speaker 2: but Yeah, I feel like this is such an odd game.
- 18:01Speaker 2: But I do believe that Man U will come out
- 18:04Speaker 2: on top. And yeah, I don't know. I think the
- 18:07Speaker 2: thing that they lack is defense. So that's going to
- 18:11Speaker 2: be something to watch. Maybe we see Tottenham score a
- 18:13Speaker 2: little bit. Maybe a goal or two.
- 18:17Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 18:18Speaker 2: The players that they signed are capable. But it's not
- 18:22Speaker 2: going well for them. So... Yeah, it's going to be
- 18:25Speaker 2: interesting to watch these two battle it out. I'm hoping
- 18:29Speaker 2: for a Man U win because I do not like
- 18:32Speaker 2: Tottenham at all. And yeah, or maybe even a draw.
- 18:37Speaker 2: I don't mind seeing a draw either.
- 18:41Speaker 1: I definitely, if there was an option for both of
- 18:43Speaker 1: them to lose this game and not get any points,
- 18:45Speaker 1: I would definitely take that. Like as a fan of
- 18:47Speaker 1: just the Arsenal, I just hope both of them do terrible.
- 18:51Speaker 1: But no, ultimately, hold on. Dang. I had to sneeze.
- 18:56Speaker 1: My bad, guys. But, yeah, so I think that as
- 19:02Speaker 1: far as them two, I just– I think Manchester United
- 19:07Speaker 1: is going to walk away with this win. I think
- 19:09Speaker 1: Tottenham just struggled way too much throughout the season. Manchester
- 19:11Speaker 1: United has actually, like– that's one thing Brighton actually did do.
- 19:15Speaker 1: They came– in the Carabao Cup, they came back down
- 19:18Speaker 1: from being down 2-0 versus Manchester United to win 3-2.
- 19:23Speaker 1: So even Manchester United, they've showed signs, but then they
- 19:26Speaker 1: ultimately just give it away. And Man Utd struggled with that. Yeah.
- 19:29Speaker 2: What game was it whenever we went to the pub?
- 19:32Speaker 1: It was Leeds. Oh, they were up?
- 19:33Speaker 2: They were up 2-0, and then they ended up losing
- 19:37Speaker 2: or drawing 2-0 or losing 2-0.
- 19:40Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. I don't remember the exact game, but the
- 19:44Speaker 1: one off the top of my head I definitely remember
- 19:46Speaker 1: is versus Brighton in the Carabao. It was Everton.
- 19:51Speaker 2: Everton.
- 19:52Speaker 1: Everton, okay. Yeah, they've struggled. They really have. And I
- 19:56Speaker 1: don't know. My prediction is that one of these guys
- 19:58Speaker 1: is definitely not going to be there by season's end.
- 20:03Speaker 1: My pick is deserving. No questions asked. I think Michael
- 20:08Speaker 1: Carrick Still, I feel like that's a cop-out answer. But
- 20:12Speaker 1: I feel like Michael Carrick, they're still going to give him,
- 20:15Speaker 1: I guess, a chance. But my thing is, Manchester United,
- 20:18Speaker 1: the institution, just one of the most respected clubs in
- 20:21Speaker 1: the entire world. That does make sense. When you talk
- 20:24Speaker 1: about football in America and you ask a casual who
- 20:30Speaker 1: you've heard of, they're going to say Barcelona. They're going
- 20:32Speaker 1: to say Real Madrid. And they're going to say Manchester United.
- 20:35Speaker 1: Those are the three teams they're going to say.
- 20:36Speaker 2: And.
- 20:38Speaker 1: And they really, as an institution, I'm not going to lie,
- 20:42Speaker 1: like how long can they take that? Like if they
- 20:45Speaker 1: continue to lose and lose and lose or just draw,
- 20:48Speaker 1: walk away with points, lose to the bad teams, how
- 20:51Speaker 1: long does he actually stay there? I don't know. Tottenham,
- 20:54Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit more acceptable that they
- 20:58Speaker 1: are because they've been fighting for relegation since last, for
- 21:01Speaker 1: a couple of seasons already. And it's nothing new this year.
- 21:06Speaker 1: But maybe, obviously, they want results. They spend a lot
- 21:08Speaker 1: of money. So he could be definitely Deserby before Michael Carrick.
- 21:12Speaker 1: So I just wonder where it's going to go for
- 21:15Speaker 1: both of them.
- 21:16Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think Deserby because he's been there longer.
- 21:18Speaker 1: Didn't Deserby just get signed? Oh, yeah. 0-3-31-26. Yeah, they're
- 21:27Speaker 1: both new. Well, they're both pretty new. Yeah. Yeah, I
- 21:34Speaker 1: don't know. We'll see.
- 21:35Speaker 2: But maybe they both get sacked at the same time
- 21:39Speaker 2: during the same game.
- 21:40Speaker 1: Imagine. Yeah, for sure. I don't know.
- 21:43Speaker 2: This is going to be a crazy game. And yeah,
- 21:46Speaker 2: I feel like Carrick is living up to these big
- 21:50Speaker 2: standards because you're right. It is the club. It's Man U.
- 21:56Speaker 1: So, I don't know.
- 21:57Speaker 2: We're going to have to see how that goes throughout
- 22:00Speaker 2: the rest of the season. And we'll definitely be Be
- 22:02Speaker 2: on watch for that. We'll be talking about this more,
- 22:04Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure.
- 22:05Speaker 1: Yeah, and I guess the next picture we'll talk about
- 22:07Speaker 1: is our team, the Arsenal versus Leeds United. We obviously
- 22:10Speaker 1: went super in-depth in the Don't Mess With the Arsenal podcast,
- 22:15Speaker 1: but I guess we can touch on it just really quick.
- 22:18Speaker 1: As far as the Arsenal, what we're really going to
- 22:20Speaker 1: look for is a bounce back from Brighton. I think
- 22:24Speaker 1: it kind of was a blessing in disguise. maybe or
- 22:27Speaker 1: it might have not been a blessing in disguise where
- 22:30Speaker 1: you would have wished to maybe just hop back on
- 22:31Speaker 1: the saddle and get back to work and immediately the
- 22:34Speaker 1: next week walk away with a win to get the
- 22:36Speaker 1: confidence back up but in reality you're dwelling on it
- 22:38Speaker 1: for four for almost four whole weeks about a loss
- 22:42Speaker 1: that really surprised the world like let's surprise the premier
- 22:46Speaker 1: league definitely that no one really expected to happen at
- 22:49Speaker 1: least in that fashion but also some of the guys
- 22:52Speaker 1: played really good in um international play but also like
- 22:55Speaker 1: we talked about kai Kai Havertz, Crystal Sully, and Ezri
- 22:59Speaker 1: Kansa walk away with injuries during this international break. And
- 23:02Speaker 1: it just leaves kind of a question mark with Ebreche Eze,
- 23:07Speaker 1: Victor Yacarez. What we're going to do in that back
- 23:10Speaker 1: line if Kansa is hurt? Is Mosquera healthy yet? Is
- 23:14Speaker 1: Nkapia going to have to move inside to play center back?
- 23:16Speaker 1: There's questions that need to be answered. But I think
- 23:18Speaker 1: they are going to be answered. He is, right? Ben
- 23:21Speaker 1: White was hurt. last versus got hurt versus who was it?
- 23:28Speaker 1: Not Brighton. It wasn't Sunderland. It was Sunderland. He got
- 23:33Speaker 1: hurt during the Sunderland game because Julian Timber had to
- 23:37Speaker 1: come in during that game. And he looked, he kind
- 23:38Speaker 1: of changed the tide a little bit because he was
- 23:40Speaker 1: able to put pressure on the ball kind of at
- 23:43Speaker 1: a higher rate than Ben White was in that game.
- 23:45Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 23:46Speaker 1: I remember that.
- 23:48Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 23:48Speaker 1: So I don't know if he's back completely or, So
- 23:53Speaker 1: that's something that we'll have to wait and see. I
- 23:54Speaker 1: haven't heard much on Ben White status.
- 23:56Speaker 2: I just saw a post about, it just said like
- 23:58Speaker 2: Benjamin White and it was, um, someone I follow.
- 24:02Speaker 1: So I was Benjamin Netanyahu. I was, um, just wondering
- 24:08Speaker 1: if he was back. I haven't seen anything either, but no,
- 24:12Speaker 1: but yeah, I expect them to bounce back in this one.
- 24:14Speaker 1: I think Mikel Arteta is going to have the boys
- 24:15Speaker 1: ready and rocking mountain. Oh, the guard looks pretty good
- 24:18Speaker 1: in the Norway fixtures. And, um, Even Victor Jacquez looked
- 24:21Speaker 1: really good. Myles Lewis-Skelly got some burn. Beep Kyle Saka
- 24:24Speaker 1: got some burn. Ebrecha Eze got some burn. All our
- 24:27Speaker 1: guys basically got burned, besides the ones that stayed and rested.
- 24:30Speaker 1: So I expect them to walk away with a 2-0
- 24:32Speaker 1: victory versus Leeds United in this one.
- 24:35Speaker 2: Yeah, I see the exact same thing. I'm thinking 2-0,
- 24:39Speaker 2: maybe 3-0. I'm hoping that the international break got our
- 24:43Speaker 2: boys back into scoring form.
- 24:45Speaker 1: Saka goal and Saka assist. I think he's going to
- 24:48Speaker 1: go do a GA on the stat sheet in this one.
- 24:50Speaker 2: Yeah bro you got he got him two two goals
- 24:53Speaker 2: uh with uh england over the break so um i
- 24:56Speaker 2: can see that happening completely and i really hope that
- 24:59Speaker 2: um the international break like we talked about it yesterday
- 25:02Speaker 2: as well um just gave uh our boy victor some
- 25:05Speaker 2: some confidence to be able to go back out there
- 25:09Speaker 2: because he has the capability and he has everything he
- 25:12Speaker 2: needs um he has the physical traits everything um just
- 25:17Speaker 2: needs to be displayed and we've seen it um And
- 25:20Speaker 2: I think that they're just going to be straight on attack.
- 25:22Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe Mikael switched some stuff up after Brighton.
- 25:26Speaker 2: And I just think it's going to be, you know,
- 25:28Speaker 2: our snowball. They're just going to, they're going to be physical.
- 25:30Speaker 2: They're going to go at you. They're going to just
- 25:33Speaker 2: do what they do best, you know? And, uh, I'm
- 25:36Speaker 2: really glad that Declan stayed back and he was able
- 25:38Speaker 2: to get some rest. Well needed rest. Well deserved as well.
- 25:42Speaker 2: After playing like almost 90 games, um, last year for
- 25:46Speaker 2: clubbing country, um, maybe somewhere around that.
- 25:50Speaker 1: He played a lot.
- 25:51Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that the boys are going to
- 25:54Speaker 2: be in form. And like we said yesterday, Leeds isn't
- 25:57Speaker 2: no pushover. So it is going to be an interesting game.
- 26:00Speaker 2: But I just think that Arsenal is going to dominate.
- 26:03Speaker 2: And yeah, I'll go 2-0, 3-0.
- 26:04Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think obviously this moves us up, moves
- 26:10Speaker 1: us into this next and probably final game we're going
- 26:13Speaker 1: to talk about over the the first weekend back from
- 26:15Speaker 1: the international break. And it has less to do with Liverpool,
- 26:18Speaker 1: but more to do with Man City. Like, what are
- 26:20Speaker 1: your thoughts going into this Liverpool versus Man City game?
- 26:22Speaker 1: And honestly, couldn't be the worst team besides the Arsenal
- 26:26Speaker 1: that they could have played coming out of this scandal
- 26:30Speaker 1: that they're dealing with. They decide just to go up
- 26:31Speaker 1: against Liverpool. Yeah, right after. And I don't know, like,
- 26:38Speaker 1: that isn't crazy. And then going to Liverpool?
- 26:40Speaker 2: Yeah, going to Liverpool. Liverpool having to play against them
- 26:43Speaker 2: is going to be insane. I'm really excited having to
- 26:47Speaker 2: go to Anfield and play against them after all these
- 26:52Speaker 2: accusations and everything that's going on.
- 26:55Speaker 1: Caught guilty.
- 26:56Speaker 2: Yeah, caught guilty after what they've done. And if anyone
- 27:01Speaker 2: has been affected the most, it would be Liverpool.
- 27:05Speaker 1: Literally Liverpool.
- 27:07Speaker 3: I literally could have had, hey, I'm not.
- 27:13Speaker 1: I don't know. They would have had an invincible season
- 27:15Speaker 1: if it wasn't for Manchester City.
- 27:20Speaker 2: Liverpool was the most affected, I feel like, them or Arsenal,
- 27:24Speaker 2: by the Man City scandal and everything that's gone on.
- 27:28Speaker 1: Arsenal missed out on, what, two Premier Leagues, Liverpool the
- 27:31Speaker 1: same as well. Like, it's been rough. And, dude, I
- 27:36Speaker 1: think Man City is about to get booed out of
- 27:38Speaker 1: every single stadium they walk into. during whatever, their next
- 27:46Speaker 1: series of games is going to be. Only because I
- 27:49Speaker 1: just feel like they have disgraced, not just football, but
- 27:53Speaker 1: they've disgraced sport in general. I've never seen, like I
- 27:57Speaker 1: was telling you before the podcast, and I was talking
- 27:59Speaker 1: to my dad about it too, like he knows nothing
- 28:01Speaker 1: about soccer or football or anything.
- 28:03Speaker 2: He doesn't know anything. But I was telling him and
- 28:05Speaker 2: he was like, he was so like shocked. Like that's
- 28:09Speaker 2: $ 900 million? Like, are you joking? That is an insane
- 28:15Speaker 2: amount of money to just.
- 28:17Speaker 1: I guess for context, let's give the context real quick
- 28:21Speaker 1: for the people that maybe not know about what's going on.
- 28:23Speaker 1: So over the international break, there's been like a 10-year
- 28:27Speaker 1: basically investigation into Manchester City because their records got leaked.
- 28:35Speaker 1: And what they ended up finding was that they were in...
- 28:39Speaker 1: What's the word I'm looking for? Um.
- 28:42Speaker 1: Inflating like their revenue pumping money into pumping money like
- 28:46Speaker 1: their revenue from commercial um sponsorships and stuff like saying
- 28:50Speaker 1: they made more money than they actually were so they
- 28:52Speaker 1: could yeah they were fake sponsorships yeah and they were
- 28:55Speaker 1: fake sign stuff like that yeah so so they had
- 28:58Speaker 1: this mysterious they had this all this money based off
- 29:03Speaker 1: all those sponsorships that they had and the revenue they
- 29:05Speaker 1: were bringing in So they were able to sign, look
- 29:07Speaker 1: like they were able to sign these high class players
- 29:10Speaker 1: and they had all this money. But in reality, they
- 29:13Speaker 1: were actually lying about how much money they were actually
- 29:16Speaker 1: bringing in. And so therefore, basically lying financially so they
- 29:20Speaker 1: could bring in the best possible club, the best possible
- 29:23Speaker 1: team that they could assemble to go and compete in
- 29:26Speaker 1: the Premier League. And this even includes Pep Guardiola. This thing, like,
- 29:33Speaker 1: it's kind of so disgraceful. because the investigation is from
- 29:38Speaker 1: like 2009, 2008, to 2018. I believe within that time period
- 29:42Speaker 1: of the 990 million plus that they were lying about
- 29:48Speaker 1: to be able to have these goaded teams. And what
- 29:51Speaker 1: makes you think that they stopped after 10 years? You know,
- 29:53Speaker 1: like there hasn't been an investigation into today's time period.
- 29:56Speaker 1: You know, this just can't be a brand new thing.
- 29:59Speaker 1: an old thing that they stopped doing. This has to
- 30:01Speaker 1: be continued practice. It's like once you're a cheater, you're
- 30:04Speaker 1: always a cheater. You're going to keep doing it until
- 30:07Speaker 1: you fully get caught. They keep appealing and appealing, but
- 30:10Speaker 1: they've already been found guilty of 114 out of 115 charges. Dude,
- 30:14Speaker 1: you're raps, dude. There's no possible way.
- 30:20Speaker 2: This is insane. It's the most insane thing I've ever
- 30:24Speaker 2: seen in sports, if I'm being honest. I've never seen
- 30:27Speaker 2: this like I don't know, not in my lifetime at least,
- 30:30Speaker 2: or anything that I've really focused on where there's been
- 30:33Speaker 2: this much of a cheat or scandal.
- 30:37Speaker 1: Even the Clippers were only lying about the Kawhi Leonard contract.
- 30:40Speaker 1: They weren't even lying about everyone.
- 30:42Speaker 2: Yeah, it was... That's crazy, but 900 million plus is
- 30:47Speaker 2: insane to me.
- 30:49Speaker 1: I don't... That's beyond me. It's crazy. As someone that
- 30:54Speaker 1: loves and cherishes sports so much and watching these amazing
- 30:59Speaker 1: athletes play in amazing teams. And I hate it when
- 31:02Speaker 1: I hear people say it's rigged. It's rigged. Look at
- 31:04Speaker 1: the bed. We're on the same page here. Yeah. Like
- 31:06Speaker 1: I hate that. I hate having to defend sport and
- 31:10Speaker 1: saying that these players are not rigging the games and
- 31:12Speaker 1: saying that they, they truly, and the people that they
- 31:15Speaker 1: are centered around the owners, the coaches like that, they
- 31:19Speaker 1: are all on the same page. And it's us that
- 31:22Speaker 1: makes the game so diluted that, that kind of corrupts
- 31:25Speaker 1: the game with our mindset, especially when it comes to
- 31:27Speaker 1: sports betting and, I hate hearing people say the game's rigged,
- 31:30Speaker 1: that it's fixed, that they already know the results. You
- 31:34Speaker 1: know what I mean? I just hate hearing people talk
- 31:35Speaker 1: about it. I'll defend it with my life. But the
- 31:38Speaker 1: Manchester City coming... Not even me being an Arsenal fan,
- 31:42Speaker 1: but me just being a fan of sport in general,
- 31:44Speaker 1: a team that cheats to this magnitude deserves the highest
- 31:48Speaker 1: punishment they could possibly receive. I do not care. You
- 31:51Speaker 1: have disgraced the integrity of the game, the integrity of
- 31:55Speaker 1: the players across from you. How can... like, let's say
- 31:58Speaker 1: they're guilty. How can Pep walk around with those Premier
- 32:03Speaker 1: League trophies and say he won those? Like, like Rodri said,
- 32:06Speaker 1: like he said, they can't take away what we did
- 32:07Speaker 1: on the, on the pitch. That's something money can't buy.
- 32:10Speaker 1: Money literally bought y'all, the players to be, bought you
- 32:14Speaker 1: to be able to do this. Like, what are you
- 32:16Speaker 1: talking about, right? Literally was able to pay your wages.
- 32:19Speaker 1: You know, like, no, like literally, imagine if, The Arsenal
- 32:23Speaker 1: did this. Imagine if Manchester United did this. Imagine if, like,
- 32:26Speaker 1: these top clubs also did this. Like, literally, Arsenal in
- 32:30Speaker 1: the Arsene Wenger era, and I think the world owes
- 32:32Speaker 1: an apology to Arsene Wenger because he, like, called it
- 32:37Speaker 1: out before everybody. Like, he's saying, like, how do they
- 32:39Speaker 1: have all this? Yeah, he said it's a disgrace. Like,
- 32:40Speaker 1: how do we have the same sponsors? How do we
- 32:42Speaker 1: have the same amount of jersey sales, but y'all have
- 32:45Speaker 1: more money than us? It makes no sense. Like, you know, like,
- 32:48Speaker 1: there's something off about these books. And he called it
- 32:51Speaker 1: out and the world disgraced him. And I'm just saying,
- 32:55Speaker 1: for one of the greatest managers of all time, one
- 32:57Speaker 1: of the greatest managers in Premier League history was ridiculed
- 33:00Speaker 1: towards the end of his career because of teams like this.
- 33:04Speaker 1: Because Manchester City were buying up all the Arsenal players
- 33:07Speaker 1: while Arsenal was trying to pay for the Emirates, trying
- 33:09Speaker 1: to pay for a brand new stadium. to bring in
- 33:11Speaker 1: more revenue, to bring in more fans, to bring in
- 33:14Speaker 1: more financial freedom, to be able to buy the great
- 33:17Speaker 1: team we have today. We have been able to see
- 33:21Speaker 1: through history, Arsenal, trying to rebuild this team and get
- 33:25Speaker 1: back to what they are today and replicate 22 years
- 33:28Speaker 1: in the past of greatness. They worked their butts off
- 33:32Speaker 1: to get here. And to see a team like Manchester City,
- 33:35Speaker 1: who literally bought their way to the top and faked
- 33:38Speaker 1: the revenue that happened, pisses me off bro i'm just
- 33:41Speaker 1: like so like like it annoys me so much.
- 33:44Speaker 2: It's insane to me and i've sent you videos and
- 33:46Speaker 2: there's man city um fans defending and one of the
- 33:51Speaker 2: videos was like well everyone else uses money to buy
- 33:55Speaker 2: players like no yes they use money that's how you
- 33:58Speaker 2: buy players but not to this extent you know what
- 34:01Speaker 2: i'm talking about josh like it was such a lame argument.
- 34:04Speaker 1: Oh no he was he was he was saying that
- 34:05Speaker 1: like They're saying that they're blah, blah, blah, but everyone
- 34:10Speaker 1: else is doing the same. Everyone else is stopping these
- 34:13Speaker 1: other clubs from spending as much. I'm like, no. These
- 34:17Speaker 1: other clubs have fought to stay at the top. They've
- 34:19Speaker 1: literally sacrificed so much to be able to stay here.
- 34:22Speaker 1: Let's look at Manchester United in the early 2000s when
- 34:26Speaker 1: they literally sold David Beckham to Real Madrid. Obviously, the
- 34:29Speaker 1: relationship between him and Sir Alex Ferguson was getting a
- 34:35Speaker 1: little tainted towards that time period. but they sold him.
- 34:39Speaker 1: They're one of the greatest players in club history to
- 34:42Speaker 1: bring in new players. That's just how it works. While
- 34:45Speaker 1: these guys are literally buying up, they're ravaging these clubs
- 34:50Speaker 1: that are building up their players with fake money. They're
- 34:54Speaker 1: taking players from teams that are working hard to bring
- 34:58Speaker 1: in these superstars. Yeah, and that's.
- 35:00Speaker 2: What sucks too. Instead of having to work their way up,
- 35:04Speaker 2: like Arsenal worked their way up, like all these other teams,
- 35:07Speaker 2: They just pump money in and then they're like, okay,
- 35:09Speaker 2: I'm going to go buy him. I'm going to go
- 35:11Speaker 2: buy him. They have one of the best scores in
- 35:13Speaker 2: prim history. Maybe the best ever with Erling Haaland. We've
- 35:17Speaker 2: seen what he can do.
- 35:18Speaker 1: Like, dude, this... Arguably the best striker in the entire world. Yeah, exactly.
- 35:25Speaker 1: It's insane. I don't know.
- 35:28Speaker 2: It's just crazy to me. I just don't know how
- 35:33Speaker 2: fans of this team can just be like, oh.
- 35:34Speaker 1: It's funny. I think if you just have the tiniest
- 35:40Speaker 1: ounce of respect for sport in general, this should piss
- 35:43Speaker 1: you off. I don't care if you don't watch football.
- 35:46Speaker 1: If you don't watch soccer, you definitely should feel mad
- 35:49Speaker 1: about this because it makes you look back and be like,
- 35:51Speaker 1: who else is doing this? Look at all the outrage
- 35:54Speaker 1: people are having for freaking the Houston Astros for tapping
- 35:58Speaker 1: trash cans, bro. Yeah, bro.
- 36:00Speaker 2: I'm a product of that. I'm a Yankees fan, and
- 36:03Speaker 2: I watched that as a kid. having to lose against
- 36:06Speaker 2: the Astros.
- 36:06Speaker 1: But that's nowhere near, but that's nowhere near compared to this. Yeah,
- 36:10Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Like, I'm mad about that. Like,
- 36:13Speaker 1: I can only, like, I'm mad about the Man City.
- 36:15Speaker 1: I can only imagine how the fans of the opposing
- 36:21Speaker 1: clubs feel for, like, have been their whole lives. You
- 36:23Speaker 1: know what I mean? And we didn't even live through
- 36:25Speaker 1: all this. You know, that's what I'm saying. Like, we didn't,
- 36:27Speaker 1: we weren't, we weren't dialed in. Like, we weren't dialed in. Like, like,
- 36:31Speaker 1: we just didn't know what was going on. But now, like,
- 36:35Speaker 1: It just pisses me off. For those poor people that
- 36:38Speaker 1: got drugged through the mud and supporting their team just
- 36:42Speaker 1: hoping to finish in second. Like Liverpool. Imagine being a
- 36:46Speaker 1: Liverpool fan right now. Imagine being Mo Salah right now.
- 36:50Speaker 1: Imagine being Virgil van Dijk. Their careers could be.
- 36:55Speaker 2: Not like they're already legends, but they could be propped
- 36:58Speaker 2: up so much higher.
- 36:59Speaker 1: They're legends, but they could be... Like, in a different
- 37:03Speaker 1: class of player. You know, like, especially Virgil van Dijk
- 37:07Speaker 1: as a defender in general. Like, leading the.
- 37:09Speaker 2: Yeah, Mo Salah, he could.
- 37:10Speaker 1: I bet he would be... I think people do... He's
- 37:12Speaker 1: already almost arguably one of the best Premier League players
- 37:15Speaker 1: of all time. Best Premier League players ever.
- 37:17Speaker 2: Yeah, so I feel like that would even boost it more.
- 37:21Speaker 2: I would say he is, but like... Even as a
- 37:23Speaker 2: Man City player, I would be pissed.
- 37:26Speaker 1: Right now like obviously you don't know what's going on
- 37:28Speaker 1: like you if you do shame on you but if
- 37:30Speaker 1: you didn't do this must suck like imagine being kevin
- 37:33Speaker 1: de brun and you're like you're you're known as this
- 37:37Speaker 1: this amazing midfielder probably the best in premier league history
- 37:43Speaker 1: and your your legacy might be tarnished because it wasn't
- 37:47Speaker 1: real yeah like rodgers like as much as he wants
- 37:51Speaker 1: to talk it off the ledge right now no Like,
- 37:54Speaker 1: your legacy won't be looked at the same. Erling Haaland, like,
- 37:57Speaker 1: we know who he is. Like, sure, we can't take
- 38:00Speaker 1: away y'all's talent. We can't take away what you did
- 38:02Speaker 1: on the pitch. But we can take away is that
- 38:04Speaker 1: y'all would not have even been together in the first place.
- 38:07Speaker 1: Because in reality, in the truth and in the reality
- 38:10Speaker 1: of things.
- 38:11Speaker 2: Three of the best print players ever.
- 38:13Speaker 1: Yeah, in the truth and reality of things, Manchester City
- 38:15Speaker 1: is a small club. Like, they are not a big club. Like,
- 38:19Speaker 1: they're a bottom-tier team that worked their way up. to
- 38:24Speaker 1: to the to the the heights of English football and
- 38:29Speaker 1: once they got there they tarnished football that that's what
- 38:32Speaker 1: they did and they they didn't do it off their
- 38:34Speaker 1: own off their own hard work they did it off
- 38:38Speaker 1: of cheating that's how they did it when the new
- 38:40Speaker 1: ownership came through they started cheating their way to the
- 38:42Speaker 1: top and we saw Chelsea do it in the mid-2000s
- 38:45Speaker 1: and now But they owned up to it when the
- 38:48Speaker 1: new regime came through. But these ones, they're just so
- 38:51Speaker 1: adamant that they did nothing wrong. And they're going to
- 38:54Speaker 1: literally force every single one of us to sit here
- 38:58Speaker 1: and wait for a verdict. To wonder if the Arsenal
- 39:02Speaker 1: is playing as the first place team or the second
- 39:05Speaker 1: place team and wondering how much they're going to have
- 39:08Speaker 1: to win, how hard they're going to have to play
- 39:10Speaker 1: to be able to secure another Premier League championship. And
- 39:13Speaker 1: that's what's frustrating is that I just feel like You've
- 39:17Speaker 1: been found guilty by the Premier League and by their
- 39:20Speaker 1: investigators and by the independent party that was involved. Now
- 39:24Speaker 1: you're going to go to another independent party to receive
- 39:26Speaker 1: a second appeal. How does that even a third appeal
- 39:29Speaker 1: like broke? just wrap it up and call it a day.
- 39:31Speaker 1: Take your punishment. And what even punishment is even worthy enough?
- 39:34Speaker 1: Because like I was seeing a bunch of theories, right?
- 39:38Speaker 1: Obviously find them, find them to the depths of just bankruptcy,
- 39:43Speaker 1: having to sell the team and sell off players. But
- 39:46Speaker 1: that's not enough for what you've done. Like I, Like,
- 39:49Speaker 1: we've seen teams like, who was it? I can't remember
- 39:54Speaker 1: the exact teams off the top of my head. Maybe
- 39:57Speaker 1: if I look right. I think Nottingham Forest, I want
- 40:00Speaker 1: to say. Yeah, Nottingham Forest. A couple of things that they,
- 40:03Speaker 1: they were guilty on one charge. And they lost 10 points. Yeah.
- 40:09Speaker 1: They got, they got, they, yeah, they got, they lost
- 40:12Speaker 1: 10 points. You were found guilty on 114 charges. That's
- 40:18Speaker 1: like 1,140 points you should be deducted. But the thing is,
- 40:23Speaker 1: do you send them to the championship? Because those teams
- 40:25Speaker 1: don't want them there. These teams are trying to get
- 40:27Speaker 1: themselves back to the promote, trying to get back promoted.
- 40:30Speaker 1: And the teams that get relegated, why would they want
- 40:32Speaker 1: to play against Man City? It's going to be one
- 40:35Speaker 1: of those things like they either trap them in the
- 40:36Speaker 1: Premier League where they just sit here, start the season
- 40:39Speaker 1: with a minus 50 points deduction for I don't know
- 40:41Speaker 1: how many years. And they never win a championship, never
- 40:45Speaker 1: do enough to get relegated, never do enough to get
- 40:48Speaker 1: anywhere near a championship. But in the championship, they could
- 40:51Speaker 1: do the exact same thing. I don't know. I just
- 40:54Speaker 1: don't know what the correct punishment is for Man City,
- 40:57Speaker 1: but it better be a lot. That's all I'm saying.
- 41:00Speaker 1: Because if it's not a great punishment, what's stopping Newcastle,
- 41:05Speaker 1: who has the richest ownership group in the entire Premier League,
- 41:11Speaker 1: To stop them from doing this, if the reward is
- 41:14Speaker 1: a Premier League championship and the consequence is a slap
- 41:16Speaker 1: on the wrist, what's stopping them from doing it? If
- 41:18Speaker 1: Manchester City doesn't get the punishment they deserve.
- 41:23Speaker 2: I'm hoping it is a crazy punishment. I feel like
- 41:27Speaker 2: just because of how it works, I feel like it's
- 41:29Speaker 2: not going to be as insane as we want it
- 41:31Speaker 2: to be, if I'm being honest.
- 41:32Speaker 1: Because I feel like that's how it always goes. Yeah.
- 41:36Speaker 1: And we've seen it a bunch of times in America. Like,
- 41:38Speaker 1: in the sports we cover. Like, so... we know a
- 41:41Speaker 1: lot about. We definitely see punishments don't really matter. Like,
- 41:45Speaker 1: let's say, I don't know, a dude smoking weed gets
- 41:50Speaker 1: suspended for multiple times in Josh Gordon, but a guy
- 41:53Speaker 1: that beats his girl can come back the next year.
- 41:55Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Even like eight.
- 41:57Speaker 2: Games, like Josh Jacobs is probably going to get, I
- 41:59Speaker 2: think he might come back after eight games. And he's
- 42:01Speaker 2: already served four games, so he's only going to have
- 42:03Speaker 2: to be suspended for four. Yeah, so he only needs
- 42:04Speaker 2: four more, which is, it's crazy. So, I mean, I
- 42:09Speaker 2: can see it not being a crazy suspension just due
- 42:13Speaker 2: to how, I guess, they're, I don't know.
- 42:14Speaker 1: But they're going to get sued.
- 42:16Speaker 2: Yeah, they for sure are getting sued.
- 42:18Speaker 1: So much. By a bunch of, like I think it's
- 42:20Speaker 1: for sure, Arsenal, Manchester United, Tottenham, Liverpool, like I think
- 42:25Speaker 1: all those teams. And then I'm sure the teams that
- 42:27Speaker 1: got relegated because of them, the teams that missed out
- 42:30Speaker 1: on European spots because of them. Yeah.
- 42:34Speaker 2: There's going to be so many people coming for them.
- 42:36Speaker 2: It's going to take years and years though, I believe. to, like,
- 42:40Speaker 2: go through with all that.
- 42:41Speaker 1: So, yeah.
- 42:43Speaker 2: But I wonder what the punishment will be like and
- 42:45Speaker 2: when it'll be started. I feel like it'll be next
- 42:47Speaker 2: season that it happens, if I'm being honest.
- 42:50Speaker 1: I do think they can get, like... They keep whatever
- 42:52Speaker 1: they're doing this year, but they'll get, like, sanctioned from
- 42:55Speaker 1: winning anything. You know what I'm saying?
- 42:57Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 42:58Speaker 1: But that kind of puts us in a predicament, too, because, like,
- 43:00Speaker 1: the Arsenal... Like, let's say... They're blocked from winning a
- 43:05Speaker 1: championship this year, right? A Premier League championship. They're blocked
- 43:08Speaker 1: from even qualifying for the Champions League. They're blocked from
- 43:13Speaker 1: qualifying for the European Cup. But if they finish above
- 43:21Speaker 1: with more wins and more points than the Arsenal, but
- 43:24Speaker 1: Arsenal is the champion, it's going to feel like a
- 43:26Speaker 1: fake championship. So the Arsenal, no matter what, has to
- 43:31Speaker 1: finish on top of them. Like in the point standing,
- 43:35Speaker 1: like they, they, they cannot play second fiddle to Manchester city.
- 43:39Speaker 1: And that's the sucky part about it because we're going
- 43:41Speaker 1: to wait for this punishment. They may get sanctioned from
- 43:43Speaker 1: winning a championship this season, but it's going to look
- 43:46Speaker 1: like on paper, they were really the champions. And that's
- 43:48Speaker 1: what sucks about the whole thing. Yeah.
- 43:51Speaker 2: Just a weird situation to like look into as an
- 43:55Speaker 2: opposing fan. Cause you want there to be significant punishment,
- 43:59Speaker 2: but we don't know what's going to happen.
- 44:01Speaker 1: We're clueless. We know nothing. We know nothing. Yeah. All right. Well,
- 44:08Speaker 1: I feel like we talked enough about the Premier League.
- 44:10Speaker 1: Let's move into something we do know about, and that's
- 44:15Speaker 1: Team USA. And I don't know if for you, but, like, dude,
- 44:25Speaker 1: this international break, these friendlies that we were playing, and sure,
- 44:30Speaker 1: you can say, You can say they were just friendlies.
- 44:34Speaker 1: They were just friendlies. But in America, and the way
- 44:37Speaker 1: that this team has been in the past, this is
- 44:40Speaker 1: something to get excited for. Like, America. Like, all our
- 44:45Speaker 1: guys that are going to listen to this, all our friends, like,
- 44:47Speaker 1: people we know, people that randomly fall upon this podcast.
- 44:50Speaker 1: And if you live in America, I'm telling you, hop
- 44:54Speaker 1: on the train right now. Like, I'm not saying... Yeah,
- 44:56Speaker 1: go get you a cake. Go get you... Yeah.
- 44:58Speaker 2: Whatever you need to get, bro, because.
- 45:00Speaker 1: I'm not saying that we're going to win the World Cup.
- 45:03Speaker 1: I'm not saying that we're going to be this squad
- 45:07Speaker 1: that's going to compete with England. I think we will
- 45:11Speaker 1: compete with England eventually. But I'm not saying we're going
- 45:13Speaker 1: to be this team that takes Spain to the brink,
- 45:15Speaker 1: that takes England to the brink, that takes France to
- 45:17Speaker 1: the brink, that takes Argentina to the depths of hell
- 45:24Speaker 1: when it comes to playing in a soccer match, in
- 45:28Speaker 1: a football match. I'm just saying that we're going to
- 45:30Speaker 1: be able to compete here sooner rather than later. And
- 45:34Speaker 1: I think if you watched any of these games versus Peru,
- 45:39Speaker 1: versus Mexico, versus Canada, and I know I'm missing one more.
- 45:43Speaker 2: Chile.
- 45:44Speaker 1: No, not Chile. Yeah, right? Yeah. If you watched any
- 45:47Speaker 1: of those games, you know what I'm talking about. We
- 45:50Speaker 1: put in goals. We were exciting to watch. But here's
- 45:53Speaker 1: the caveat. Here's the caveat. We have real prospects. We
- 45:58Speaker 1: have real guys that have real talent. And if we
- 46:03Speaker 1: look back at the Christian Pulisic era, those guys like
- 46:08Speaker 1: Christian Pulisic, Gio Reyna, Yunus Musa, Weston McKinney, Tyler Adams,
- 46:14Speaker 1: the guys we have right now, it became a luxury
- 46:17Speaker 1: for them because their spots were secure. Like, there was
- 46:21Speaker 1: no one else challenging their spots. No one else challenging
- 46:24Speaker 1: for the first team. I saw Tim Howard and Landon
- 46:28Speaker 1: Donovan talk about it. Like, America's best 12 was literally
- 46:33Speaker 1: America's best 12. Like, when you look at England, England
- 46:36Speaker 1: starting 11 may not be their best 11. Like, let's
- 46:39Speaker 1: just be like, but for us, our best 11 is
- 46:42Speaker 1: literally our best 11. Like, there's no one else that's
- 46:44Speaker 1: going to take their spots. They went through a dark
- 46:46Speaker 1: period after the Clint Dempsey's, after the Michael Bradley, after
- 46:48Speaker 1: the Josie Alcidor. where there was absolutely nobody. And then
- 46:53Speaker 1: Christian Pulisic comes along. We love... I don't know. His
- 47:01Speaker 1: name's a little tarnished right now after the World Cup,
- 47:03Speaker 1: but he makes you excited as an American fan because
- 47:06Speaker 1: we have a talent like Christian Pulisic and the other
- 47:09Speaker 1: guys that go along with Weston McKinney. He's definitely the most...
- 47:13Speaker 1: He's the most talented player in America. Let's just be
- 47:15Speaker 1: completely honest.
- 47:16Speaker 2: In the USA soccer history.
- 47:19Speaker 1: Yeah, like, so it's just one of those things. But
- 47:22Speaker 1: right now, it's different. Because there's... When Christian Pulisic came through,
- 47:27Speaker 1: there was no one else to challenge them that was older.
- 47:29Speaker 1: And there was no one coming through to challenge them
- 47:31Speaker 1: that was younger. But right now, those guys that are
- 47:34Speaker 1: young to challenge them are here. We had seven teenagers,
- 47:39Speaker 1: three guys that are 20 years old, and we had
- 47:41Speaker 1: two guys that were 23 and younger. So... or I
- 47:49Speaker 1: think maybe a little bit more. A quarter of this
- 47:52Speaker 1: team are all prospects, are all young, exciting players. Like
- 47:57Speaker 1: Mexico can say they have prospects, but a guy that's
- 47:59Speaker 1: over 22 years old, that's not a prospect. That's not
- 48:03Speaker 1: a prospect. That's not a guy that's over 22, 23, 24, 25.
- 48:05Speaker 1: They talk about, they're not prospects. So here's what I
- 48:09Speaker 1: want you to do, Ryan. Like, just talk about what, like,
- 48:14Speaker 1: who made you excited? Like, why did they make you
- 48:17Speaker 1: excited during this international break?
- 48:20Speaker 2: Yeah, so we were talking about this international break and
- 48:23Speaker 2: we were talking about how we loved it and how
- 48:25Speaker 2: it kind of sucked for our fandom for Arsenal and
- 48:27Speaker 2: the club, you know? But I was like, dude, Josh,
- 48:30Speaker 2: I'm so excited for this international break because of the
- 48:34Speaker 2: young bucks that are coming in. All the young guys
- 48:37Speaker 2: that are coming in to Team USA and just putting
- 48:41Speaker 2: competition into.
- 48:44Speaker 1: this team.
- 48:44Speaker 2: You know, and this, it helps out with, like you said,
- 48:48Speaker 2: the older players who feel like they have a spot,
- 48:50Speaker 2: like now they're challenged. Yeah. Whenever Christian Pulisic comes to
- 48:54Speaker 2: camp and some, and they're going to have Kevin or
- 48:58Speaker 2: whoever it may be, maybe Gio on his side during drills. Yeah.
- 49:02Speaker 2: Maybe Matisse Albert, like he's going to want to show
- 49:05Speaker 2: them that this is his, this is his team. This
- 49:08Speaker 2: is his spot, you know? So just pushing for competition
- 49:11Speaker 2: and it's pushing for more, They just want to do better,
- 49:14Speaker 2: if that makes sense. Because like you said, they didn't
- 49:16Speaker 2: have no competition and now they do. So I think
- 49:19Speaker 2: that's just so awesome. to see um and uh one
- 49:22Speaker 2: that i think is really gonna push uh our starter
- 49:25Speaker 2: is julian hall we saw julian hall score three three
- 49:28Speaker 2: goals in four games he.
- 49:30Speaker 1: Scored three three in a row yeah three games he
- 49:33Speaker 1: scored three in a row and your first in your
- 49:35Speaker 1: first um games in an international jersey. He tied LA
- 49:39Speaker 1: for being the only two players to score three goals
- 49:41Speaker 1: in three straight international matches.
- 49:44Speaker 2: It was insane being able to see, and I think
- 49:46Speaker 2: it's so cool for us as Americans to see that,
- 49:51Speaker 2: to see MLS products going out there, you know, because
- 49:55Speaker 2: you know how our league is tarnished. We know how
- 49:57Speaker 2: MLS is looked at. It's like a retirement league. It's
- 49:59Speaker 2: this league with not good players.
- 50:00Speaker 1: But there's real talent right now.
- 50:02Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're seeing that being developed, and I think
- 50:05Speaker 2: that's such a huge step for the MLS in developing
- 50:09Speaker 2: Justin Ellis. We saw Julian Hall.
- 50:12Speaker 1: Even Alex Freeman, who secured the.
- 50:14Speaker 2: Right back spot.
- 50:15Speaker 1: Yeah, Neil Pierre.
- 50:17Speaker 2: Kevin Sullivan.
- 50:19Speaker 1: Who else? We got... I just went completely blank. Oh,
- 50:24Speaker 1: Adrian Mamedy. He plays for the New York Red Bulls
- 50:26Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, Mamedy for Red Bulls as well. Xavier Gozo,
- 50:28Speaker 1: who just... I mean, Matt Freeze doesn't really count, but
- 50:32Speaker 1: I'm just saying for MLS in general.
- 50:33Speaker 2: Frankie Westfield, who also plays for Orlando City FC. Xavier Gozo,
- 50:40Speaker 2: he played, and he just made the move to Crystal Palace.
- 50:43Speaker 2: And then Sebastian Berlholter, he played for Vancouver, and he
- 50:45Speaker 2: just made the move to England for Middlesbrough.
- 50:48Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 50:49Speaker 2: We actually have a couple guys at Middlesbrough.
- 50:51Speaker 1: Well, then a lot of our guys started off in
- 50:53Speaker 1: MLS and went overseas too, so it's not just them. Yeah.
- 50:57Speaker 2: I think it's Peyton Miller too for New England Revolution.
- 51:01Speaker 2: I just think it's so cool.
- 51:02Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I was forgetting Peyton Miller.
- 51:04Speaker 2: To be able to see these guys just go out
- 51:08Speaker 2: there and play. And I know people are going to
- 51:11Speaker 2: be like, well, it was weaker opponents. It was weaker
- 51:13Speaker 2: CONCACAF opponents. Well, Mexico did the same thing. They played
- 51:17Speaker 2: the same people. And they lost all four. They didn't
- 51:20Speaker 2: win a single game. They lost two, drew two.
- 51:23Speaker 1: And drew one, yeah. And got destroyed by us.
- 51:27Speaker 2: Yeah, and we see Mexico fans calling for Rafa Marquez's
- 51:30Speaker 2: head after four. And yes, they're just friendlies, but look
- 51:33Speaker 2: how Mexico's reacting to these friendlies for Rafa Marquez.
- 51:38Speaker 1: And I want to get into that too. Yeah. As
- 51:41Speaker 1: far as like, we're in so much of a better
- 51:44Speaker 1: spot than Canada and Mexico right now. Like, obviously Canada's
- 51:48Speaker 1: not even on our stratosphere. Like, they have Jonathan David,
- 51:50Speaker 1: they have Alfonso Davies, but outside of that, it's a
- 51:53Speaker 1: lot of question marks. But as far as Mexico, Mexico
- 51:56Speaker 1: walks around like they have these great players. And they
- 52:00Speaker 1: do have really good players. Gilbert Tamora is a true
- 52:04Speaker 1: amazing prospect. He's the best, in my opinion, in CONCACAF, probably. Yeah,
- 52:08Speaker 1: might be the best prospect in CONCACAF as a prospect. Like, definitely.
- 52:11Speaker 1: And then Kevin Sullivan, Matisse Albert, whoever you want to
- 52:14Speaker 1: argue after that. You know, I think it's between those three,
- 52:16Speaker 1: for me, personally. Those are the three best prospects in CONCACAF. But...
- 52:23Speaker 1: We look at the rest of the team. They took
- 52:27Speaker 1: nine of their... They took, I think, 75% of their
- 52:32Speaker 1: starters to this international break. They weren't lacking two of
- 52:36Speaker 1: their World Cup... 75% of their World Cup starters to
- 52:39Speaker 1: this international break. They weren't lacking in experience. They weren't
- 52:42Speaker 1: lacking in talent. Their amazing goalkeeper that lit up the
- 52:46Speaker 1: World Cup, he got destroyed by Arsenal, by the U.S., Like,
- 52:51Speaker 1: he got destroyed by the United States by teenagers. They
- 52:54Speaker 1: were attacking him. And then we look at people saying, well,
- 52:58Speaker 1: John Quinones wasn't there. Raul Jimenez wasn't there. Edison Alvarez
- 53:03Speaker 1: wasn't there. Edison Alvarez is not that good. Like, he's
- 53:07Speaker 1: past it. Raul Jimenez is not going to be there anymore.
- 53:11Speaker 1: He's 35. He's 35 years old. He is not going
- 53:15Speaker 1: to be on the Mexico team no longer. There might
- 53:19Speaker 1: be a chance for Copa America when it comes around.
- 53:22Speaker 1: That's it. That might be the last time we see
- 53:26Speaker 1: a Raul Jimenez. Shout out. We love some Raul Jimenez,
- 53:28Speaker 1: but it's over for him. And John Quinonez, he's banging
- 53:33Speaker 1: in goals in Saudi. He had a great World Cup,
- 53:36Speaker 1: but in reality, he's not better than Fulain Balogun. He's
- 53:39Speaker 1: not better than Weston McKinney. And he's not better than
- 53:41Speaker 1: Christian Pulisic. Nowhere near the same level as Christian Pulisic.
- 53:45Speaker 1: And so when you tell me none of those guys,
- 53:48Speaker 1: none of our top three guys, Christian Pulisic, Weston McKinney,
- 53:52Speaker 1: and Fuller and Baligan were there. And not to mention
- 53:55Speaker 1: Johnny Cardoso. um haji right um we have a lot
- 53:59Speaker 1: of other really good players.
- 54:01Speaker 3: That did not come hi ricardo let's be honest ricardo
- 54:06Speaker 3: pepe was not on this team but i think that's
- 54:08Speaker 3: the way this this international break should have been it
- 54:10Speaker 3: should have been the young guys give them a chance
- 54:13Speaker 3: see what they're made of see what we actually have
- 54:16Speaker 3: in talent so when november comes around we we can
- 54:20Speaker 3: kind of pick out where this starting unit's gonna move
- 54:22Speaker 3: towards and i think.
- 54:23Speaker 1: Yeah get ready for the yeah nation's league Yeah, yeah. Like,
- 54:27Speaker 1: and I think for me personally, like, I'm excited. Like,
- 54:32Speaker 1: we were talking about the challenge. Like, like, Haji Wright,
- 54:37Speaker 1: right now. Ricardo Pepe, right now. Fuller and Baligan, I
- 54:41Speaker 1: don't think these guys are, they're nowhere near the talent
- 54:43Speaker 1: of Fuller and Baligan. I'm sorry. Like, it's, I don't,
- 54:46Speaker 1: I don't see them making that, that, that stride because
- 54:48Speaker 1: let's be honest, Fuller and Baligan's never played in America. Like,
- 54:52Speaker 1: he's never played in a, He's a hell-end boy, for
- 54:54Speaker 1: Christ's sake. Like, he's from the Arsenal. He plays for Monaco.
- 54:58Speaker 1: Top girl scorer. He was about to make the move
- 55:00Speaker 1: to Everton, right? To Everton before things collapsed. And I'm
- 55:04Speaker 1: sure he's going to make a big move across. I
- 55:07Speaker 1: saw some Serie A teams pretty interested in him. So
- 55:11Speaker 1: we'll see. He's going to be a top striker for
- 55:13Speaker 1: a club somewhere. Yeah, and the way that he just
- 55:16Speaker 1: plays the ball, he's able to kind of track back
- 55:20Speaker 1: a little bit and then even find the open guy
- 55:22Speaker 1: in creation. aspects fuller and balican is just a complete
- 55:25Speaker 1: striker for the u.s especially the talent that we have
- 55:27Speaker 1: the talent level that we are able to produce and
- 55:29Speaker 1: have he's the perfect striker we could have had so
- 55:31Speaker 1: i think for that second role ricardo pepe haji right
- 55:35Speaker 1: like two guys that have been kind of there that
- 55:37Speaker 1: made the trip to the world cup have to be
- 55:39Speaker 1: looking at julian hall and justin ellis and thinking it's
- 55:42Speaker 1: not going to be an easy road my spot is
- 55:43Speaker 1: not guaranteed like especially julian hall as a poacher And
- 55:47Speaker 1: then I see tactical manager himself even talking about Justin
- 55:51Speaker 1: Ellis just being maybe an even better player than Julian
- 55:57Speaker 1: Hall just based on technical ability and based on being
- 56:00Speaker 1: able to be that. Yeah, he's not a true poacher.
- 56:03Speaker 1: That false nine. He's more of a false nine role. Yeah. Yeah.
- 56:06Speaker 1: Julian Hall is more of the poacher. Like the ball
- 56:08Speaker 1: lands at his feet and he's going to put it
- 56:09Speaker 1: into goal.
- 56:10Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 56:10Speaker 1: He can probably get more goals than Justin Ellis, but
- 56:13Speaker 1: Justin Ellis is the better. Like a Kai Havertz. Let's
- 56:15Speaker 1: just say that. He's kind of like the Kai Havertz
- 56:17Speaker 1: of America.
- 56:17Speaker 2: And Justin Ellis is learning from Anthony Griezmann. So that's
- 56:21Speaker 2: pretty cool.
- 56:22Speaker 1: Yeah, he is in Orlando City. And I think Justin Ellis,
- 56:27Speaker 1: like think about it. Like Pulse got ridiculed because he
- 56:32Speaker 1: didn't finish out the game because of an injury. And
- 56:35Speaker 1: we're still pissed about that. And I guarantee you, Okay,
- 56:40Speaker 1: let's just stick on Justin Ellis for a second. Justin
- 56:42Speaker 1: Ellis took a nasty tackle in the Canada game. He
- 56:45Speaker 1: got hurt, but he was willing to die out there
- 56:48Speaker 1: for his country in an international friendly. I think these
- 56:52Speaker 1: young guys have that nastiness. They have that grit, the
- 56:55Speaker 1: determination that you're going to have to carry me off
- 56:57Speaker 1: this field. And I think Justin Ellis showed that. And
- 57:00Speaker 1: if that mindset is present within maybe our third or
- 57:04Speaker 1: our fourth striker, the guy in front better be worried.
- 57:09Speaker 1: That's all I'm going to say. Serginio Dest has to
- 57:11Speaker 1: be looking at that right side right now and thinking, dang,
- 57:14Speaker 1: did my spot just get taken by Cabin Sullivan? Did
- 57:17Speaker 1: my spot, is my spot in jeopardy? Christian Pulisic, you
- 57:22Speaker 1: may be the most talented player, but Gio Reyna, Gio
- 57:25Speaker 1: Reyna's stock. He is one of the biggest winners. And everyone,
- 57:29Speaker 1: like if you know me, Gio Reyna's my guy. Like
- 57:31Speaker 1: Gio Reyna is my guy. I love Gio Reyna, but
- 57:35Speaker 1: like growing up, I mean, I'm older than him, but
- 57:37Speaker 1: like watching him The U.S., like, I just always thought, like,
- 57:42Speaker 1: this guy, he's going to be him. The hype around
- 57:45Speaker 1: him when he was first coming out was insane. He's
- 57:47Speaker 1: still only 24. Like, that's insane. No, he's only 23, actually.
- 57:51Speaker 1: He's only 23 years old. Like, and then we look at,
- 57:54Speaker 1: and then obviously the Burl Halter era when he was
- 57:57Speaker 1: manager ruined it with the kicking at, with the whole
- 58:00Speaker 1: kicking him and everything that was going on during the,
- 58:05Speaker 1: what was it? During the Copa America... It was a
- 58:11Speaker 1: weird situation. Led to that guy's firing. He kind of
- 58:15Speaker 1: struggled at the club level. He was always injured. But
- 58:18Speaker 1: right now in Salzburg and now in Strasburg and in
- 58:23Speaker 1: League One, he's looking a little bit better. And definitely
- 58:26Speaker 1: in this international break, he was easily our best player
- 58:28Speaker 1: game in and game out. He played the most minutes.
- 58:30Speaker 1: He led the team from the entirety of the attack.
- 58:35Speaker 1: And I think He played on the left side. He
- 58:37Speaker 1: can play in the middle. He can play on the
- 58:39Speaker 1: right side. He's very versatile. And then Matisse Albert, sooner
- 58:43Speaker 1: rather than later, him and Kevin Sullivan are going to
- 58:45Speaker 1: be playing for some very big clubs, doing some very
- 58:48Speaker 1: big things. And a lot of these guys have to
- 58:51Speaker 1: be looking at those two and thinking, my spot is
- 58:55Speaker 1: not as secure as it used to be. And then
- 58:57Speaker 1: even at the goal situation, Matt Freeze, Swacky, Chris Brady,
- 59:05Speaker 1: Diego Cochin is here. He's definitely more athletic than the three.
- 59:10Speaker 2: He's already better with his feet than Matt Freeze.
- 59:12Speaker 1: Better with his feet. He's not as technically sound because
- 59:15Speaker 1: he doesn't have as much reps as a Matt Freeze.
- 59:17Speaker 1: But if we keep playing him. I don't know. I
- 59:22Speaker 1: think it's going to be a whole, a whole movement
- 59:24Speaker 1: towards a different type of goalie. And I think Diego
- 59:26Speaker 1: Cochin is going to play a big role going forward
- 59:29Speaker 1: because he played versus Mexico. You don't play someone versus Mexico.
- 59:32Speaker 1: If you don't intend for them to be taking.
- 59:34Speaker 2: That crazy shit, like shave that crazy save from Piojo Alvarado.
- 59:42Speaker 2: So yeah, I think I'm really hoping.
- 59:45Speaker 1: By any means, no, but he's not perfect. More exciting. Yeah,
- 59:48Speaker 1: it is more exciting.
- 59:49Speaker 2: And it, Matt Freeze just leaves a sour taste in
- 59:52Speaker 2: our mouth after what we saw against Belgium. You know,
- 59:56Speaker 2: like it just it's not cool. But yeah, man, this
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: this team, it's just so cool to see. Like as
- 1:00:04Speaker 2: we're getting into it, see the rise of this team
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: and just see the depth that is being shown. We
- 1:00:10Speaker 2: played like our second team in the Peru and the
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: Chile games.
- 1:00:15Speaker 1: And then.
- 1:00:17Speaker 2: The main guys come on towards the end. And they're
- 1:00:20Speaker 2: still up, you know? It's crazy.
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: They never stopped attacking.
- 1:00:26Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: They never stopped attacking.
- 1:00:28Speaker 2: They're just always going. And how Matisse Albert, he forced
- 1:00:32Speaker 2: that foul. It's because he's just always going. And the
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: ambition of these young guys is so awesome to watch.
- 1:00:38Speaker 2: They just want to be out there and they want
- 1:00:40Speaker 2: to play. It's so cool to me. And I think
- 1:00:47Speaker 2: coming out of this international break, we can see what
- 1:00:50Speaker 2: the holes may be or what we can try to find.
- 1:00:53Speaker 2: And I feel like that's center back and maybe.
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: We need center back bad.
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: We need to find someone next to Chris Richards. Chris
- 1:01:02Speaker 2: Richards has secured a spot. We have Alex Freeman right back.
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: We have Chris Richards. And then we don't know who
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: Austin trustee did look good, who I feel like I've been,
- 1:01:11Speaker 2: I don't know in my, we probably haven't really talked
- 1:01:14Speaker 2: about it, but I haven't been the biggest fan of him.
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: I mean, Noah Kai Banks chose Germany.
- 1:01:19Speaker 2: Yeah, Noah Kai Banks. That would have been insane. And
- 1:01:23Speaker 2: then we have Jedi Robinson in the back.
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: Imagine if we had Nathaniel Brown. Nathaniel Brown, too, bro.
- 1:01:27Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: He's good. He's super good. He's starting for Germany, so
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: I don't blame him. But Noah Kai Banks, you might
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: not even get a chance.
- 1:01:43Speaker 2: He chose the younger team over being on the senior team,
- 1:01:49Speaker 2: which is kind of crazy to me.
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: But our midfield is stacked right now. I'm so happy
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: for Tyler Adams, Malik Tillman, Johnny Cardoso. Yeah, like Yeah,
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: this team, it's just so cool to see all this depth.
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: Sebastian Bertholder.
- 1:02:05Speaker 2: The emergence of Sebastian Bertholder is crazy.
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: He looks a lot more confident, definitely.
- 1:02:11Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's so cool to see. And he's been
- 1:02:13Speaker 2: balling out at Middlesbrough. And it's just, like we said,
- 1:02:17Speaker 2: it's going to push for competition. Gio Reyna being able
- 1:02:21Speaker 2: to be healthy and play at the club level now
- 1:02:24Speaker 2: is going to push some competition.
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: I loved his approach to... to the Mexico game. Like
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: he was not going to give up. He was going
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: to do the bullying. Like, and I, let me tell
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: you this, what pisses me off about Mexico. Like I'm
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: trying to come around to liking them. Like I, I
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: 100% am like my whole Catholic background. Like, like Gilbert Tamora,
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: just being the complete dog. He is my love for Al,
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: whom it is as a Wolverhampton wonder. Um, like I'm
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: trying to come around, but when you watch shit, like
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: they were pulling versus the U S like, like they're
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: a dirty team. Like, they are a bunch of, like,
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: dirty players who are trying to be like Argentina without
- 1:03:05Speaker 1: the talent of Argentina. Yes, I saw the scene.
- 1:03:09Speaker 2: Yes, they're like, yeah, that's so true. And I love Mexico, too.
- 1:03:13Speaker 2: They're probably my second favorite team just because that's what
- 1:03:17Speaker 2: I grew up around.
- 1:03:18Speaker 1: And, yeah. I can agree with that. They are dirty.
- 1:03:21Speaker 2: And that double slap by Mateo Chavez is so weak.
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: What are we doing?
- 1:03:26Speaker 2: Dude, you're supposed to be one of the next up-and-coming players,
- 1:03:30Speaker 2: and you're going to just overreact? You're getting that much rage, baby?
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: Now the U.S. knows we're in your head. Yes, bro.
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: You don't think... What I'm so happy about is Christian
- 1:03:46Speaker 1: Pulisic walked away with an injury. left the World Cup,
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: and as our captain, as Captain America, as the guy
- 1:03:53Speaker 1: the whole country looks at as our best player probably
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: in history, argue him or Landon Donovan, as our best
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: player in history, the whole country looks at you in
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: this way, and you get hurt, and you leave that game.
- 1:04:07Speaker 1: You don't die out there on the pitch. You don't
- 1:04:09Speaker 1: risk your career out there on the pitch. I guarantee you,
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: Kevin Sullivan's not coming off that pitch. I guarantee you,
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: Matisse Albert is not coming off that pitch. I guarantee you,
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: Gio Reyna is not coming off that pitch. Like, these guys,
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: right now, they are hungry. Sebastian Roelhalter, he bleeds America.
- 1:04:29Speaker 1: His dad was literally the manager of America. Sure, him
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: and Gio Reyna had beef, but he's not coming off
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: that pitch. Like, we need more guys that are willing
- 1:04:38Speaker 1: to die for the badge than ever. And I think
- 1:04:41Speaker 1: we have it. And think about it, six years from now,
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: because of these same guys, imagine the talent that's going
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: to come through after this. We need a spark like this.
- 1:04:50Speaker 1: We need excitement like this. We need the country to
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: get behind this team to be able to have just
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: the results we're looking for. And I'm not saying to
- 1:04:58Speaker 1: go win a World Cup. I'm saying to get to
- 1:05:00Speaker 1: the semifinals. I'm saying to get to the final eight teams.
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: Just go where we've never gone, you know? Yeah. Get
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: past the round of 16. Go crazy in the Copa America.
- 1:05:10Speaker 2: Like, just get there, you know? Like, there's going to
- 1:05:13Speaker 2: be stout competition, obviously. But, like, all this talent that
- 1:05:17Speaker 2: is pumping through.
- 1:05:17Speaker 1: Go win the.
- 1:05:18Speaker 2: Finish. Yeah.
- 1:05:19Speaker 1: Win the gold cup. Second in the cup of America. Yeah,
- 1:05:22Speaker 1: win the gold cup. You know, like. Like, take back.
- 1:05:25Speaker 2: The Reigns from Mexico. The reason they acted like this
- 1:05:29Speaker 2: is because of the dominance they have portrayed over us
- 1:05:31Speaker 2: the past couple years.
- 1:05:32Speaker 1: We were dominant. Not even, though. Like, we just sold, like,
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: a couple games. We were dominant. We were dominant over them.
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: We were up 2-0 in the Gold Cup. And then
- 1:05:41Speaker 1: we just fell.
- 1:05:43Speaker 2: Like, it just.
- 1:05:44Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 1:05:44Speaker 2: It was a lack of something. I don't know if
- 1:05:46Speaker 2: it had to do with Berhalter or whatever.
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: Mauricio Pochettino being new. I don't know. But, yeah. I just...
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: What we're seeing now is so... It's fight. We're seeing fight.
- 1:05:57Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so cool to see these young guys. They're
- 1:05:59Speaker 2: not going to come off the pitch because this is
- 1:06:02Speaker 2: their last impression to ever be on the senior national team.
- 1:06:06Speaker 2: And they don't get another chance. They're going to fight every.
- 1:06:09Speaker 1: Chance they get. Because the first team is going to
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: come through soon. Yeah, exactly.
- 1:06:13Speaker 2: When November selection.
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: We're going to see who's favored right now. Obviously, we
- 1:06:19Speaker 1: have four years. But right now, we're going to see
- 1:06:21Speaker 1: who the main guys are.
- 1:06:22Speaker 2: Yeah. Through those four years, you have to work your
- 1:06:24Speaker 2: way up, you know?
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: So, yeah. But Kevin Sullivan and Matisse Albert better never,
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: ever be left off an international team. I'm sorry. Like,
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: they better always be on.
- 1:06:33Speaker 2: I think Julian Hall, after that performance he had.
- 1:06:35Speaker 1: Yeah, I think him or Justin Ellis, but I think
- 1:06:37Speaker 1: Julian Hall, he's still, the question mark is with him still,
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: is that is he going to choose Poland or is
- 1:06:43Speaker 1: he going to choose the U.S.? Because I think he
- 1:06:45Speaker 1: may try out playing three games for Poland and see
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: where he wants to be, you know? Because once you
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: play the fourth, like, you're done. Like that's your, see,
- 1:06:53Speaker 1: that's the team you're with. So we'll see what he
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: ends up doing.
- 1:06:55Speaker 2: I saw a thing with, uh, I was listening to
- 1:06:58Speaker 2: unfiltered soccer with Tim Howard and Landon Donovan. And they
- 1:07:01Speaker 2: were saying that you, you played three games, right? You
- 1:07:06Speaker 2: played three games with whatever team you want. Uh, and
- 1:07:11Speaker 2: then the fourth that you have donuts with. Yeah. And
- 1:07:14Speaker 2: then the fourth game, it does, it can't be a friendly.
- 1:07:16Speaker 2: It has to be a competitive match. Once you play
- 1:07:20Speaker 2: that game, Oh, no. I think in general, once you
- 1:07:22Speaker 2: play a competitive match, that's it.
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: Yeah, you're cap-tied. That's what they said. It's cap-tied. So,
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: you're done.
- 1:07:28Speaker 2: You can't switch anymore, I believe.
- 1:07:31Speaker 1: So, yeah.
- 1:07:32Speaker 2: We'll see what Julian Hall does. And they were talking
- 1:07:34Speaker 2: about it and they were saying how Noah Kai Banks,
- 1:07:37Speaker 2: he's German with an American parent, if that makes sense.
- 1:07:41Speaker 2: But Julian Hall is American with a Polish parent. Like,
- 1:07:46Speaker 2: he's American in his roots. So.
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: But his mom's from Poland.
- 1:07:51Speaker 2: Yeah, he wants to honor his mom. And I understand that.
- 1:07:54Speaker 2: So we'll see how that goes. And we'll see if
- 1:07:57Speaker 2: he plays for Poland. And, I don't know, Poland, we
- 1:08:01Speaker 2: see what Lewandowski does. They haven't done much. And the
- 1:08:06Speaker 2: Team USA is on the rise. So, yeah, we'll see
- 1:08:09Speaker 2: with that. I just think this young team is so exciting.
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: It's so fun to watch. What was your favorite goal
- 1:08:16Speaker 1: from the international break, you think? Prove. Let me see.
- 1:08:25Speaker 1: Probably Cavins. Cavins was dope. Cavins was one of those...
- 1:08:32Speaker 1: You put on a t-shirt moment. You know what I'm saying?
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: It was one of those moments where you're like.
- 1:08:36Speaker 2: It's that moment you remember where you were.
- 1:08:39Speaker 1: The first time I watched Wimby go crazy. Exactly like that.
- 1:08:44Speaker 2: And it's against Mexico.
- 1:08:47Speaker 1: The rivalry... literally the way he did it like it
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: was him and the goalie one-on-one from deep and he
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: shot it in there you know like it was like
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: that's not.
- 1:08:55Speaker 2: An easy shot like that's not an easy shot a
- 1:08:59Speaker 2: chip shot from almost midfield right like 30 yards you
- 1:09:03Speaker 2: know it was crazy that's probably that would.
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: Probably be that one and the other one with the
- 1:09:10Speaker 1: with the Sebastian Bolhalter goal where the cheeky bastard himself
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: Julian Hall literally just hit the Martin hit the hit
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: the the Kai Havertz Fake, and then he put it
- 1:09:20Speaker 1: in there.
- 1:09:21Speaker 2: Bro, that one was so nasty. That one was really
- 1:09:24Speaker 2: good as well.
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: Yeah. Matisse-Albert was nasty too. Like where he just bullied
- 1:09:31Speaker 1: his way to that. Dude, it was like just I
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: don't care where I'm hitting this ball. It's going in.
- 1:09:37Speaker 1: It's going in. Yeah. Yeah, that one was cool. Putting
- 1:09:41Speaker 1: your body on the line just for a goal.
- 1:09:43Speaker 2: It would probably be Matisse-Albert.
- 1:09:45Speaker 1: Those are my top three. Those are my top three.
- 1:09:47Speaker 2: Yeah, because they were both the youngest. And I think
- 1:09:50Speaker 2: that's so cool where we just we just witnessed history.
- 1:09:53Speaker 2: We saw Matisse Albert, the youngest ever to score.
- 1:09:57Speaker 1: And then a couple of days later, a couple of
- 1:09:59Speaker 1: days later, we saw Kevin Sullivan score.
- 1:10:03Speaker 2: So that's that's yeah, those would be my top two.
- 1:10:06Speaker 2: And then, yeah, probably.
- 1:10:08Speaker 1: Well, Chris Richards scored, right? I think. Yeah. Off the header. Yeah,
- 1:10:15Speaker 1: off the header.
- 1:10:15Speaker 2: That would probably be my favorite. I love Chris Richards.
- 1:10:17Speaker 2: He's probably one of my favorite players on the team.
- 1:10:20Speaker 2: I love Chris Richards.
- 1:10:21Speaker 1: I think he might be on the move, to be
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: honest with you. Yeah, I saw Serie A. I think.
- 1:10:27Speaker 1: Serie A clubs. If we didn't have the depth, I
- 1:10:29Speaker 1: would want to go get him so bad.
- 1:10:32Speaker 2: Me and Josh have been talking about it. We want
- 1:10:33Speaker 2: an American on Arsenal so bad.
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: So bad, bro.
- 1:10:37Speaker 2: That'd be so cool. American on Como. Flo on Como.
- 1:10:42Speaker 1: Fuller and Balligan, bro. They're so nasty. I think that
- 1:10:45Speaker 1: was a good first pod of inverted footballers. I think
- 1:10:50Speaker 1: one team we're definitely going to cover more often than
- 1:10:52Speaker 1: not is Team USA. We're going to have to. We
- 1:10:54Speaker 1: want to be the guys that definitely bring excitement to
- 1:10:57Speaker 1: our national team. All right. I think that's going to
- 1:11:01Speaker 1: be enough for us for the day. We thank you
- 1:11:03Speaker 1: all for all listening. If you're still listening, we appreciate
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- 1:11:23Speaker 1: Next Thursday should be the net when the next, when,
- 1:11:25Speaker 1: or next Friday is when it should come out. Cause
- 1:11:27Speaker 1: it's going to come out on Friday as well tomorrow.
- 1:11:29Speaker 1: Well today, technically, but, um, we'll, we'll catch you on
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