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ClearSign Technologies (CLIR): Initiation of Coverage Review: A Non-Discretionary NOx Compliance Story with an 80% Cost Edge · WTR Small-Cap Spotlight

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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to the WTR Small Cap Spotlight Podcast.
• 0:04
  SPEAKER_01: I'm your host, Tim Gerdeman, Vice Chair and Co-Founder and Chief Marketing Officer of Water Tower Research.
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  SPEAKER_01: In today's flashcast, I'm joined by my colleague and WTR Senior Energy Transition and Sustainable Investing Analyst, Peter Gastreich.
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_01: Peter will share some insights from his initiation of coverage report on ClearSign Technologies, NASDAQ Ticker Symbol, C L I R.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_01: Good morning, Peter, and thanks for joining.
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  SPEAKER_01: Morning, Tim.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's great to be here.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, Peter, let's kick things off with the basics.
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  SPEAKER_01: What does ClearSign do and why should investors be paying attention?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, ClearSign makes advanced industrial burners for oil refineries, petrochemical plants, and midstream operators.
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  SPEAKER_00: These burners produce far less Knox pollution than anything else on the market.
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  SPEAKER_00: A key hook is that the demand driver is Knox regulation, not carbon policy.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that distinction is important for investors to understand.
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  SPEAKER_00: Knox rules are rooted in public health law.
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  SPEAKER_00: They've been tightening for decades and are completely unaffected by changes in climate policy.
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  SPEAKER_00: So at the end of the day, operators must comply or face fines and shutdowns.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's a non-discretionary market.
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  SPEAKER_00: Very important to understand that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thanks for that delineation.
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  SPEAKER_01: Can you tell us more about what's driving the regulatory cycle right now?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, California is the pace setter, and it's where ClearSign has already earned two formal best available control technology designations, which is the gold standard in terms of emissions permitting.
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  SPEAKER_00: LA based refineries face some of the world's strictest NOx limits, and ClearSign is essentially the only way to get there without extremely expensive add-on systems.
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  SPEAKER_00: Texas is the next wave with the Houston-Galveston area actively tightening.
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  SPEAKER_00: Behind that, you have Salt Lake City, Pennsylvania, Colorado, and eventually Europe.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's really a multi-decade compounding cycle here, Tim.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm curious, what makes ClearSign's technology fundamentally different from the other players?
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  SPEAKER_00: Most industrial burners tackle only one of the two chemical pathways that create NOx.
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  SPEAKER_00: ClearSign addresses both of them, which frequently eliminates the need for costly post-combustion treatment systems entirely.
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  SPEAKER_00: The cost difference is dramatic.
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  SPEAKER_00: On a recent Supermajor project, the conventional compliance option was estimated at roughly$50 million.
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  SPEAKER_00: ClearSign's total total installed cost was estimated at roughly$50 million.
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  SPEAKER_00: ClearSign's total installed cost came in at a fraction of that, at an 80% cost advantage on a single heater that gets refinery engineers' attention very fast.
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  SPEAKER_01: Putting on my investor hat for a second, Peter, how large is the TAM or total addressable market?
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  SPEAKER_00: It is substantial and growing.
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  SPEAKER_00: The near-term focus is refineries and petrochemical plants in California and Texas, as I mentioned.
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  SPEAKER_00: There you have tens of thousands of burners, which will need upgrading over the next compliance cycle.
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  SPEAKER_00: ClearSign just commercialized new burner geometries that management believes will expand their reachable market by 20 to 25% and open entry into ethylene production.
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  SPEAKER_00: Ethylene is a whole additional market, roughly the size of refining.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that alone pretty much doubles the opportunity set.
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  SPEAKER_00: Extend that globally in the long run, opportunity is very large.
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  SPEAKER_01: What can you tell us about the Gen 2 burner and why it matters?
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  SPEAKER_00: The Gen 2 achieves ultra-low NOx across the full spectrum from natural gas to pure hydrogen.
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  SPEAKER_00: That matters because as refineries blend more hydrogen to decarbonize, NOx from existing burners actually goes up.
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  SPEAKER_00: So heaters and compliance today can fall out just by changing fuel mix.
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  SPEAKER_00: ClearSigns Gen 2 stays compliant through that entire transition, creating what we see as a second demand wave on top of the baseline trajectory driver.
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  SPEAKER_00: An industry demo day in April drew major refineries and national energy companies, and the feedback was very strong.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I noticed a reference to Zico.
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  SPEAKER_01: Who is Zico and how central are they to the ClearSign business model?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, Zico is one of the world's two largest combustion equipment manufacturers and is based in Tulsa, which is why ClearSign itself relocated there.
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  SPEAKER_00: They manufacture ClearSign's burners, host customer demonstrations at world-class test facilities, and sell ClearSign products as a co-branded offering through their global sales force.
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  SPEAKER_00: Critically, all that infrastructure sits on Zico's balance sheet.
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  SPEAKER_00: Orders come in with cash up front.
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  SPEAKER_00: So projects are largely self-funding.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's generally asset-light model that scales very well.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm curious about their commercial pipeline and where that stands and what should investors be watching for moving forward with announcements.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, the pipeline is building well, around 225 burners worth of active proposals.
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  SPEAKER_00: The two headline engagements are large orders from a California Supermajor and a Texas Supermajor, both new geometries, both ahead of schedule.
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  SPEAKER_00: A major engineering firm is also channeling a series of projects from a single large refinery directly to ClearSign, which speaks to the company's growing reputation in the industry.
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  SPEAKER_00: The biggest near-term catalyst is the October 2026 Gulf Coast startup.
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  SPEAKER_00: Several prospective customers are explicitly waiting on that reference before they commit, Tim.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then just wrapping things up, Peter, finally and frankly, very importantly, what is the financial picture and pathway to breakeven?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, ClearSign had its best revenue year ever in 2025, up around 44% year on year, extending three consecutive years of strong growth.
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  SPEAKER_00: Breakeven is tied to a specific burner run rate.
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  SPEAKER_00: And with orders now in the 30-plus unit range and the pipeline building, that milestone is becoming more realistic.
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  SPEAKER_00: So our forecasts show meaningful revenue growth and margin expansion over the next several years as that install base compounds.
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  SPEAKER_00: We see the company hitting its first annual net profit in 2029 and rapidly scaling to exceed$30 million by 2031.
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  SPEAKER_00: For perspective, that level of net profit in 2031 exceeds the total current market cap of the company today.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the balance sheet is clean with a solid cash position and no long-term debt.
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  SPEAKER_00: And as mentioned, the projects and growth are structured to be largely self-funding.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's a very good aspect of this of the company.
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  unknown: Great.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, always good to have you on the podcast, Peter, and thank you for joining us today to discuss Clear Sign Technologies.
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  SPEAKER_01: We will see you next time for another edition of the WTR Small Cap Spotlight Podcast.
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  SPEAKER_01: Finally, a special thanks to the producer and editor of the podcast, Krista Fitzpatrick.