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#191 – Did Stuck in the Suburbs age well? (w/ Mary Long) · Did That Age Well?

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  OK, and now the reason that we are here, the reason for the
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  season wrapping up our Disney Channel original movie series,
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  we have saved, I mean all love and light to my other guests, we
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  have saved the best for last. Today I am joined by the one and
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  only Mary Long. Welcome to the podcast.
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  Thanks, happy to be here. So happy that you were here,
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  Mary. Podcast extraordinaire, real
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  life friend from work. That's our organ password.
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  They can happen. Real life friends can come from.
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  Work, they can come from work and and we did that.
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  So proud of us. Honestly, Bob, Oh my God, same.
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  Truly the first time that we hung out, I was like, this chick
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  rules. Ditto.
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  How the heck are ya? Doing pretty good.
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  Doing pretty good. Awesome, love that.
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  Tell me, how about yourself? You know what?
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  I'm doing pretty good too. I I'm very made a really good
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  tofu bon me yesterday. Oh my gosh, yeah, it was really
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  good. And I'm kind of riding on that
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  high. Dang I have not been recently
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  made a really good tofu bon me maybe ever but a good friend of
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  mine that I like grew up with has kind of started making these
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  really cool cooking videos and she just posted one where she
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  made a dank looking steak sandwich that was like had IA
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  homemade aioli on it had like a chimichurri sauce.
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  On it. Oh, I love chimichurri.
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  And just watching it, I felt as though I had that sandwich by
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  extension. That's incredible.
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  You made a tofu on me and I watched someone eat a steak
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  sandwich and we might be riding the same high.
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  I really do think that we are. Because for you, it's like, not
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  only did you watch her make it, you ate it theoretically.
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  Theoretically in an abstract way.
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  So I think that's beautiful. Thank you.
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  Yeah. You're welcome.
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  I did not record myself preparing this tofu on me and.
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  And thank God. For that, because you don't have
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  to. Because that's not my lane.
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  That is not my lane. I wish it was.
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  I think that'd be really, really cool.
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  I could be like Molly Boss. I love her.
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  Molly Bond Me no. Molly, Bond, me.
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  That's actually where I thought you were going.
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  I was like, no Molly bonds better.
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  Direction yeah yeah yeah, better direction She's talking about a
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  real person. But if you are Molly Bond me
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  love and light to you. OK, today we're talking about
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  stuck in the Suburbs, kind of a lesser known Disney Channel
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  original movie. Or maybe not lesser known, but
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  just like less popular. Yeah, I, I have to say I, I
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  realized that mostly in like kind of Googling and searching
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  for some lore around this movie. It looms very large in my
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  imagination. Love that.
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  And I don't really know what it. I thought it was a fantastic and
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  fun. Film.
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  Oh my gosh, yeah. We got to say right off the top.
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  So fun. A blast.
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  Yeah, yeah. And like honestly it it follows
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  a lot of tropes that are easy obvious.
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  Tropes. But I felt like the message,
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  there was some messaging of like, stick it to the man,
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  support your mom, who has cool civic engagement.
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  Like, absolutely. Like this is kind of a hip
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  movie. Yeah, it it's playing as
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  something more simplistic, but there's there's some undertones.
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  I think that there is a lot more depth than what meets the eye.
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  It's kind of this movie is sort of an iceberg.
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  Yeah, I got to say, there's a lot more going on under the
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  surface in this 80 minute movie. Yeah, it goes quick.
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  Flew by. It's like only 20 minutes longer
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  than an episode of The Pit, a show that I am enjoying very
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  much. I have not seen the pit.
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  All right, well, maybe I've. Heard fantastic things.
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  I really got to get on that. My God, it is so, so good the
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  other day. So Sunday was Hunter's birthday
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  and he's like one of those people that's like, I don't like
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  to make a big deal out of my birthday.
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  Oh, yeah, I think I told you that.
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  I was like, it's so annoying. I don't know what to do.
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  Make a big deal. Like I want to make a big deal
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  on your birthday. And he's like, oh, no, I don't
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  want to be perceived. So even if he if, when, when he
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  learns that I've even mentioned his name on the podcast, he's
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  going to be like, Oh my God, I've been perceived.
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  I should be perceived. Oh my God, that's so
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  embarrassing. But it was his birthday on
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  Sunday, and we all he wanted to do was continue watching The Pit
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  because we just started it like we had started like just a few
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  days before. And he was like, yeah, I'd
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  really love to watch The Pit. We finished like up to the most
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  recent episode and it was like, honestly, it was tragic that we
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  had no more to watch because it was like, OK, well, now we're
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  all caught up. Now we have to wait a week for
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  the episode to come out just like everybody else.
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  And he was like, this is really not fair, 'cause this is my
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  birthday and I want to know what happened to that guy Louis, you
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  know? Well, you find out soon enough.
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  You know what? Yeah, I'm gonna.
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  We're gonna find out soon enough that.
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  Is how TV works. I suppose that.
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  Is how TV works. That is how you know HBO works.
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  And I do really, I really support weekly television.
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  You know, I really like when they break it up week to week
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  'cause then we have something to talk about with people all week.
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  Except for you, Mary, because you haven't seen.
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  It, I know, but Molly, I will say I feel better about not
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  having watched it, knowing now that you only recently started
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  it. I feel that makes me feel less
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  behind than maybe I deserve to feel.
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  That's huge and that's huge. Thank you.
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  Oh. My God, you're so welcome.
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  Love and light to you. Shout out to all of my friends
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  who had recommended The Pit. And shout out to the Golden
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  Globes and the Emmys for giving a bunch of awards to that show.
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  Reinforce show. Yeah, this little known show,
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  The Pit. But seriously, go watch it.
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  Yeah, OK, anyway, so an episode of The Pit standard 60 minutes.
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  This was only a little bit more than a minutes longer.
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  Yeah, 20 minutes longer, if that.
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  In the beginning, we start with this, like, teen magazine
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  montage. Oh, wait, wait, wait.
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  Before we even get. Into it, Yeah.
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  Wait, I was gonna say. We gotta rewind.
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  You were saying that this held a very special place in your
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  upbringing. Yeah, I, I don't really, I don't
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  know that there's much more I can tell you on that because I
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  don't really know why. But I do know that when we were
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  kicking around ideas for movies to watch and Stuck in the
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  Suburbs was one listed, I was like, oh, bring me back like it.
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  And I will also say there were moments in this movie that I
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  didn't I couldn't have been I was not going to be able to
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  recall to you before I rewatched it.
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  Yes, But there is this scene super early on in the movie in
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  which like this gaggle of girls are are like fresh out of soccer
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  practice and they're listening to their favorite singer.
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  More on this to. Come.
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  But the scene is like they're dancing and then they stand on
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  the couch and they step over. They like, move their weight to
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  the back of the couch and the whole couch flips.
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  And I swear my Mr. and I did that.
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  Yeah, I think because we saw it in this.
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  Course what? What other reason would you
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  have? You wouldn't have even thought
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  like, oh, if I do this, the couch is going to knock over.
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  Yeah. And so it it feels insane to say
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  that that is why it looms so large, but that I know that we
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  did that action after having seen the movie, like underscores
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  it was a big deal. No, I couldn't have told you
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  why. No, but honestly, that is the
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  that is the key to staying power in a movie is the choreography.
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  And really, if this had been made today, that would have been
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  like a TikTok trend. They would have been like, all
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  right, step on the couch and make a knock over.
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  That would have been a whole thing.
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  And so it's almost like you sort of had that in a in its own way,
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  in a 2004 kind of way. Yeah, No one else knew.
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  No one else knew until they came over to our house and then we
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  forced them to do it with us. But yeah.
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  And I love that. One of my favorite things about
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  Disney Channel original movies D coms.
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  Of course it is choreography. Yeah, yeah.
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  And like the outfits too, choreography, the outfits, the
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  fashion accessories, like yes. And it's just it's also wild to
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  like watch these stars. I'm like, oh, Danielle
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  Panabaker, Like, how does that name?
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  That name has been living in my head, yes for years.
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  And I see Brenda Saug. I'm like, I was obsessed with.
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  Brenda Oh my God. I still am.
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  Still am. Yeah, these women are still
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  working. I love Brenda Song in the last
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  Showgirl. Oh my God, she was so good.
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  I mean, and I just adore her. She's married to Macaulay
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  Culkin, which I think is really fun.
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  I just yeah, Life is a Disney Channel original movie.
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  Honestly it's so is it's so is OK So anything else about like
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  the background of this movie and like your experience re watching
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  it overall? About the background, no, I
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  think actually what's a little disappointing for me to realize
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  is like there's not much background to this movie.
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  And I guess that's maybe because, like the plot is pretty
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  simple, like, you know, it is called stuck in the suburbs.
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  Maybe it means something, maybe it doesn't, that we never know
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  what suburb that is. And that's what I love about it.
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  It's like it does not matter. Yeah, it could.
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  Truly. Be anywhere.
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  It could be anywhere in anything.
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  Yeah. Yeah, I loved it.
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  So I feel I was disappointed that there was not as much lore
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  about like to look up now, but I guess that kind of suits the
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  film. Itself.
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  Yeah, totally. Because it's like this could be
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  anyone. I mean, like we were saying
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  before we started recording, it's like this could have been
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  me. Yeah, it could be me.
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  Why not me? Why not me?
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  And frankly, why not me? Because.
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  Because if this could happen to anyone at any time.
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  Why not me? And I think that's like the
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  power of so many Disney Channel original movies is like, oh I
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  too could be could switch phones with a pop *.
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  Right. And that that pop star could
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  literally be any pop. Like he's literally just like
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  capital P Capital S pop *. And everyone is obsessed with
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  him. Like everyone knows all of his
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  song. Yeah, it was.
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  It's that could be the belief that I could be, what's her
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  name? Brittany.
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  Brittany. Brittany, who's played by
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  Danielle Panabaker. In my head, I swore it was Kay
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  Panabaker, but I guess she was in other Disney Channel original
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  movies. But I, I looked that up when I
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  was watching the movie. I was like, no, not Kay.
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  But I Danielle's name had totally escaped me, right?
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  Totally. The Panabaker sisters.
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  We're big on Disney Channel. But it's like watching the
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  movie. I remember being a kid and
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  thinking, oh, yeah, the belief that that could be you, of
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  course, is what makes it so special.
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  As we were saying, that was an adult.
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  I'm like watching this movie and I'm like, it's a pretty
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  simplistic plot and the the egoism that kicks it is not.
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  Oh, I could switch phones to the pop stars.
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  Oh, I could write this. I could.
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  Write a movie. I should write a.
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  Movie it's I've been spending too much time not writing a
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  movie. So it continues to inspire
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  decades. Later, decades later, continues
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  to inspire. And that is so important for
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  women in their 30s. Yeah, truly, so true.
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  Really for any inspiration. We could get.
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  In this economy, we really do. The beginning starts with like
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  this montage of teen magazine. So going going back to what I
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  was saying before, before I interrupted myself and we had
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  to, you know, of course, go back.
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  What was your favorite teen magazine?
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  Did you have one? Oh my gosh, yes.
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  I I'm trying to remember the names of them.
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  I know my sister and I would like, loved going to CVS with
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  our mom. This is like, I feel like this
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  is an iconic scene. This can't just have been us.
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  They were doing this, but we would just go sit straight to
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  the magazine aisle, pull out all the like teeny bopper, J14,
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  Tiger beat. Now it's coming back, we would
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  like pull out all those magazines and just plop down on
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  the floor. Of the CDL.
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  Fun and flip through the magazines.
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  Man that is stuck in the suburbs.
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  What is? What is the line?
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  A sea of same hoping. For what did they say in the
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  movie? Sea of sameness?
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  Hoping for a glimmer of hope and a sea of sameness.
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  I think that's what of Brittanys lyrics, which is, you know,
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  aren't we all just always hoping for a glimmer of hoping for
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  hope, hoping for hope and a sea of sameness with a bunch of
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  women named Britney, which I also loved how she was like,
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  yeah, I'm one of seven Britney's.
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  I was like, love her, obsessed. But I feel yeah, favorite Mac,
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  J14, Tiger beef, something like that.
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  Totally. If if you told me that they had
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  wildly different like personalities or takes now, I
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  would not be able to defend by choice.
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  Of course, yeah, 'cause they do all kind of blend together.
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  But there were some that were sort of like a little bit, not
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  necessarily teeny bopper, but we're still like teen magazines
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  with some celebrity coverage like Teen Vogue and 17 and Cosmo
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  Girl. Those were even kind.
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  Of I. Feel like it used to be more
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  geared towards like the high gloss but younger.
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  Yes, exactly. Those were like the classy
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  magazines that are not just, like, gossip rags.
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  And Tiger Beat and J14 were just gossip rags.
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  Totally. It was like anything
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  intellectual was happening. It was like, what is Brenda
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  Song's favorite food? Yep.
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  Yeah, yeah. And we loved it for that.
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  And God bless him for that, truly.
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  Yeah. But I I really was taken back to
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  a place with just the montage of teen magazines.
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  I said I want to be on the floor of CVS with Mary reading a teen
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  magazine. And who doesn't?
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  Freedom Girl, It's everything. So OK, we're introduced to the
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  pop star Jordan, which when I was growing up we had.
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  Or is it Justin? It's.
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  Jordan Ko OK. Yeah, When I was growing up, we,
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  my mom's best friend, Pam, her kids, Andrea and Jordan, were
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  the same age as my sister and me.
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  So we would all play together a lot.
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  And anytime that there was a character in a movie named
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  Jordan, it would be Jordan's like worst day because it was
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  like it would be like Jordan, Jordan, Jordan, Jordan, Jordan,
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  Jordan, Jordan. Anyways, that's not that
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  interesting, but it is. But I was thinking about, you
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  know what? Shout out Jordan.
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  I was thinking about Jordan the whole time, thinking, oh man,
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  I'm so glad that he's not here for us to be going.
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  Jordan, Jordan, Jordan. He is Taron Callum.
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  I forgot that he did stuff before sketch comedy.
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  Yeah, I I did too. It was almost it was almost
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  satirical to see him in a role of like, I know.
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  And that sounds so God, that sounds so mean.
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  Like, no, no, no, everyone starts somewhere.
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  OK. And honestly hopeful.
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  It's it's more hope that is, Oh my gosh, we need it all that we
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  can get. But truly like.
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  He was he's not a bad looking guy.
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  This is not this is not supposed to be a read of him being like,
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  Oh well, he's so ugly. It's like a satire.
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  But like of all read between the lines.
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  But of all of the Disney Channel original movie, like Pop Star
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  Hot Guys, he is definitely the one that is most like, oh that
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  guy has a future in sketch comedy.
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  You know what I mean? Well, it's also wild to be I was
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  cackling and just had my jaw a gape while this plays out.
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  A central piece of the storyline at the beginning of the movie is
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  that he has this like long hair, right?
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  And it that does not age well, that hair looks so bad.
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  Oh my God, it looks. It looks.
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  Honestly, it's a disgrace, yes. And he, it's like kind of
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  greasy. It's just, it's not a good look.
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  And he winds up through a series of events, winds up getting his
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  hair cut. It's kind of against his will,
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  but not but it's also sort of like what he wanted.
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  Yeah. But deep down, deep down by
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  these two women that know what he wants more than he does.
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  And he looks so much better with the cut hair.
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  But his producers are freaking out about.
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  I'm like, guys, we we do have the entire we have a hair on
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  makeup team here. Like we could have made this a
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  little bit more believable. Right.
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  Maybe. Maybe that like this long hair
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  was like the hair, you know? I I get it because it's a that I
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  feel like is was is the shtick right?
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  Like the teeny bopper has the long hair, but I'm like no.
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  It could have been could have put a little bit, you know what
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  love and light to the hair and makeup on stuck in the suburbs,
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  but they could have put a little bit more of their budget into
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  making that wig a little bit, a little bit better.
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  Just believable. That's what we're going for.
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  For me to believe that I would think that's beautiful hair and
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  not. That's an asset, yeah, to.
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  Think that that's a a brand asset really.
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  Yeah, I couldn't agree more. OK.
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  One other thing that is interesting about like the
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  timing of this movie is that this was right before Brenda
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  Song went on to Suite Life of Zack and Cody.
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  Like she had been in other stuff before.
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  She had been in some Disney Channel original movies and had
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  recurring roles on shows. But this was like, this was
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  like, right when Brenda Song was like becoming who we know her to
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  be. And that feels really special.
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  It's I'm so glad you mentioned the timing because watching her,
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  she like comes in as like this new kid at school, right?
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  And she's just dressed like in a way that I mean, objectively now
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  I would never, she has like a soccer ball hand.
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  Oh, my God, The soccer ball handbag, these wackadoodle
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  boots. And it's like, you do understand
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  these children are 13 years old, right?
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  Yeah. You know that this is junior
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  high. It's so wild, but I'm.
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  I was watching Brenda Song and I'm like, shit, that is like
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  such a cool outfit. Yeah.
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  I'm like fashion girly you. Feel through the screen, you're
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  like, yeah, she's cool. She's an awesome person.
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  And it felt very London Tipton Kodak to me.
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  You know, it was. They're different characters for
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  sure. But I I saw so many echoes of
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  London Tipton in this film. Like that is who I know.
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  Fred Desog. To be right.
• 19:26
  And so it's, it's interesting that this is like right before
• 19:29
  then, you know? Totally.
• 19:30
  It's like the the London Tipton influence on what's her name in
• 19:37
  Schitt's Creek. The the daughter.
• 19:44
  We pause. Nick, go ahead and edit that in
• 19:51
  O'Hara and rest in power. Yeah, rest in power.
• 19:55
  So anyways, the way that that character is like, oh, yeah,
• 20:01
  like this one time when I was in Ibiza, this one time when I was
• 20:04
  in Barcelona, this one time when I was in New York, this one time
• 20:07
  when I was in blah, blah, blah, like that feels very like London
• 20:11
  Tipton. Which of course feels very, Oh
• 20:15
  my God, What's her name in this movie?
• 20:19
  Her name, isn't it? Natasha.
• 20:22
  Natasha. She comes into school that she's
• 20:26
  a New Girl and she's like, I've been living in Europe and I and
• 20:31
  of course it is a lie. Yeah, it is a lie.
• 20:33
  But that's the thing about 2004 is that without social media,
• 20:39
  nobody knew where you were actually from.
• 20:41
  So who cares? Have you ever, do you ever like
• 20:47
  so Mary, have you ever lie? Do you want to do you want to
• 20:49
  confess anything here on this podcast?
• 20:52
  Have you ever told someone that you were from somewhere that you
• 20:54
  weren't, Or like made-up some sort of identity?
• 20:57
  I mean, in a serious manner, like with the actual hope of
• 21:01
  befriending this person and like, because have I lied about
• 21:06
  my identity? Yes.
• 21:08
  At a bar, my friends and I have done bits and pretended that
• 21:10
  we're, you know, getting some. Cool degree, that's so fun.
• 21:15
  You know, I love that. Not really that accents are
• 21:17
  involved. Like it's not that sure an
• 21:19
  acting she's, but she's an improviser.
• 21:22
  Have I lied on stage all the time?
• 21:26
  On the on the stage. But like, never, only ever as a
• 21:31
  bit, never with the actual hope and plan of like, I will lie to
• 21:35
  you, Molly, and that's how we'll become friends.
• 21:38
  And even though my lie is so easily disprovable, yeah, still
• 21:45
  I will have one year friendship. Like, yeah, that.
• 21:47
  No, never. Well, thank God, Yeah.
• 21:50
  And even if, even if this was the time when you came to
• 21:53
  confess to me, like something that you had been keeping to
• 21:56
  yourself or lying to me about, you know, I'm, I'm frankly, I'm
• 22:00
  glad it's not. It would have made for a great
• 22:02
  podcast. Oh.
• 22:03
  My God, I. Completely derailed the
• 22:05
  discussion. No, I would have gotten us right
• 22:08
  back on track to this movie because it is so good that even
• 22:11
  your confession that you are what?
• 22:12
  Like that you never sat on the floor of CVS and read these
• 22:17
  teeny bopper magazines that you had just lied to me about that?
• 22:20
  I mean, I could have just made that up.
• 22:21
  Yeah, you totally could have, but I.
• 22:23
  Didn't I? Didn't.
• 22:24
  I know you didn't. I thank you for that.
• 22:25
  The image. Was too visceral in vivid.
• 22:29
  Yeah, it was too specific to be made-up.
• 22:31
  You just can't write this stuff, folks.
• 22:33
  When I was in probably first grade, the answer is yes, I
• 22:37
  have. I was like when I always forget
• 22:40
  when I was in first grade, it was Saint Patrick's Day and I
• 22:43
  was like, it seems like being Irish is pretty cool.
• 22:48
  So I just told people I was Irish, just like my classmates
• 22:51
  and stuff. And then one time there was
• 22:53
  somebody and one of my classmates, their mom was
• 22:58
  pregnant. And so they were like getting a
• 23:00
  bunch of attention because it was like, oh, you're going to
• 23:02
  like be a Big Brother or whatever.
• 23:03
  And I was like, so is my mom. And I told a bunch of people
• 23:07
  that. And she wasn't, wasn't.
• 23:08
  And my teacher was like, oh, like Molly shared the news and
• 23:11
  she was like, what? Oh, see.
• 23:13
  That's a tricky one because your lie implicated.
• 23:15
  Yeah, absolutely. It did implicate someone.
• 23:17
  I was 6 but don't really know what's going on.
• 23:20
  But then I also, it was also around the time maybe like, I
• 23:23
  don't know, I think I was probably like 8 or 9 when I went
• 23:27
  to my first bar mitzvah. And I was like, this is awesome.
• 23:32
  I want to be Jewish. And so I did tell people I was
• 23:36
  Jewish for a little while. What's funny?
• 23:42
  The common theme, I guess. I no.
• 23:45
  It's pretty like. These Brenda songs live is like,
• 23:52
  oh, Once Upon a time I lived in Europe, my dad is in New York,
• 23:57
  like, and Molly's lies are like, no, my entire identity is not
• 24:02
  who you think. Just when you thought you knew
• 24:05
  me, I'm Jewish. Well, as you're saying this, I'm
• 24:10
  being brought back and I'm reminded that like, for whatever
• 24:13
  reason, I'm from Virginia. And so like went to school in
• 24:18
  Virginia and it was like a cool. I don't know that it was
• 24:23
  actually cool, but there was this gaggle of girls that would
• 24:26
  love to talk about how they were from Texas, what we're like
• 24:32
  second grade like. So you're arguably yes, your
• 24:36
  life has just begun, but you are from wherever you.
• 24:38
  Are wherever you are right then because.
• 24:41
  Where you're from, you don't really get to choose.
• 24:42
  So. And they had it was, I think
• 24:45
  with these three girls that I'm thinking of, they had all lived
• 24:48
  in Texas for like a year before they could function.
• 24:52
  Yeah. Any.
• 24:53
  And they just thought it was like this cool cultural thing to
• 24:56
  be like annoying, lean into the cowboy boots.
• 24:58
  And that was like, that was there like my culture?
• 25:01
  Yes. Yeah.
• 25:02
  And it's like you're 7 now and you were two when you were
• 25:05
  there. But I never lied about being
• 25:07
  from Texas. That does, really.
• 25:10
  Just and just. I gotta say, she's never lied
• 25:13
  about that and I've never heard her say that.
• 25:15
  This does remind me of and Amy, forgive me, this reminds me of
• 25:20
  my sister, how she was born in Mexico.
• 25:23
  She was born in Guadalajara because my parents were there
• 25:25
  for work. They lived there for like a
• 25:27
  couple of years in like a neighborhood with like all
• 25:31
  expats. They worked for like an American
• 25:34
  company, like, yes, my mom, my mom like learned Spanish and
• 25:39
  became fluent and like, you know, they they embraced the
• 25:42
  culture, but as much as like an expat working for a corporation
• 25:46
  in Guadalajara can. And so my sister lived there for
• 25:50
  her first two years of life. OK.
• 25:53
  And you would think? Oh, Ewie's going to get it back.
• 25:58
  Oh Amy, God bless her. She's like, you know, I do
• 26:04
  understand Spanish, like better than most people because I heard
• 26:07
  it so much when I was a baby. Like, shut up.
• 26:11
  That cannot be true. That absolutely cannot be true.
• 26:15
  And like my mom, my mom like, took a cooking class and she was
• 26:18
  there and like, learned how to make enchiladas like really
• 26:21
  well. And it's and Amy will be like,
• 26:23
  oh, yeah. Like, you know, my mom makes the
• 26:25
  best enchiladas from when we lived in Mexico, where I was
• 26:28
  born. And it's like girl, she's not a
• 26:34
  Mexican American. For those of you love to be.
• 26:38
  For those of you who are who are not watching this visually, I am
• 26:43
  white, non Hispanic and so is my sister.
• 26:48
  Can confirm this is a white girl so and and took it for not Irish
• 26:56
  either. No, not Irish either.
• 26:59
  Just my my ancestors have been in the US for like 500 years.
• 27:05
  Like Mayflower people you know. Yeah.
• 27:09
  But she was not talking about being a Pilgrim.
• 27:10
  She was, believe it or not, you know that wasn't cool.
• 27:13
  You. Know what?
• 27:14
  Being a Pilgrim is so cool. And I actually am one.
• 27:19
  Yeah, she we went to. I'm sorry, but don't listen to
• 27:26
  this episode, Amy love you so much.
• 27:29
  She did tell people when we were on vacation once in Cancun, when
• 27:40
  people will be like, where are you from?
• 27:46
  Don't tell me she's saying Soy de Guadalajara.
• 27:57
  Maybe you were born. It means you were.
• 28:03
  From there. So those girls who said that
• 28:06
  they were from Texas, I couldn't agree more that they're not from
• 28:09
  Texas. They're not.
• 28:10
  They're not if you lived there for a year or if you can't even
• 28:14
  remember it. I mean, I was born in Idaho.
• 28:17
  I moved when I was a toddler. I don't remember it.
• 28:20
  I don't tell people I'm from Idaho.
• 28:24
  But it's worse when you say that you're from a foreign country.
• 28:26
  Yeah. So I take Guadalajara so tough,
• 28:32
  which she is. Greatest of faces too.
• 28:33
  Let me just say though, that she is a better person than me, OK?
• 28:37
  And so she does have that going for her.
• 28:40
  She's a really good person and she's better than.
• 28:41
  Me. Well, she's never lied about
• 28:44
  where she's from. That's actually an important
• 28:46
  distinction. She's not lied.
• 28:49
  She's just, you know, phrased it in such a way.
• 28:52
  Just. It was the the language barrier.
• 28:58
  But truly, when Brenda Song's character comes onto the scene
• 29:01
  saying, you know, I've been living in Europe, it's really
• 29:04
  giving like Hilaria Baldwin, like how you say cucumber.
• 29:09
  She's like, who is Jordan? I I am curious, do we find out
• 29:16
  in the she never knew. She genuinely did not know who
• 29:19
  Jordan Cahill was before she moved.
• 29:21
  I can't remember. This might be a potential plot
• 29:23
  hole because everyone in this town, this unnamed town, which
• 29:27
  is a suburb of an unnamed city. I was really trying to guess
• 29:31
  where because some scenes there was like Spanish Moss and like,
• 29:34
  is this Georgia? Is this South Carolina?
• 29:37
  But then what's the city like? Spanish Moss is by the so that
• 29:41
  I'm like California feels like a classic Disney move.
• 29:44
  But anyway to say, but everyone in this town knows who this guy
• 29:50
  is and you're assuming that he's an international pop star.
• 29:52
  He's not like only a star in this suburban town, but.
• 29:56
  He is allegedly from there, and I guess nobody else knew that.
• 30:00
  I'm like, if, you know, if you're paint, if you're calling
• 30:03
  your friends when you see that he's gotten a haircut, you know
• 30:05
  where he's from. Yeah, yeah.
• 30:09
  Anyway, so a couple couple notes.
• 30:12
  For the writers, the writers. But like she, everyone, even the
• 30:16
  the parents, know about this pop star.
• 30:17
  And Brenda Song, when she comes on to the scene, allegedly has
• 30:21
  no idea who he is. And I'm like, really?
• 30:24
  Really. That I know, but.
• 30:26
  I think that she's trying to maintain the facade of like, I'm
• 30:30
  not from here. She's committed.
• 30:32
  I have another. Like, this isn't my culture.
• 30:35
  I'm coming, I'm here with fresh eyes, you know, But it is really
• 30:39
  funny thinking about how in 2004, living in a different
• 30:43
  place means that you could have totally different cultural
• 30:47
  touchstones. And now it's like cultural
• 30:50
  touchstones are determined by the algorithm.
• 30:53
  Like when I, when I and I'm like, oh, have you heard this
• 30:57
  catchy new song by this guy with gorgeous long hair?
• 31:00
  It's like, well, it could be, it could be anybody because we're
• 31:04
  all on, we're all in different algorithms, you know what I
• 31:07
  mean? And instead, this was an era
• 31:10
  when people could, like, live in different places and that it
• 31:15
  determines their pop culture references, you know?
• 31:19
  Were there any? Like what were the touchstones
• 31:21
  of your area? Oh, that's a great question.
• 31:25
  OK. When I was when I was in junior
• 31:28
  high, three O 3 was huge, three O 3 baby.
• 31:34
  And so that was like, I think eventually they did become like
• 31:39
  more nationally known, but it was always kind of like it's a
• 31:42
  Colorado thing. Like we know them three O 3 life
• 31:46
  baby. I was a 97 O number though, so
• 31:49
  you couldn't really claim it. I know that was tough for.
• 31:52
  Me you should have lied about. That, God, I actually can't
• 31:54
  really lie about that. I know because then it's right
• 31:56
  there. It's really right there on your
• 31:57
  phone. Yeah.
• 31:58
  So that was tough. The trials being from Fort
• 32:02
  Collins, Co. The things that oh that reminded
• 32:06
  me of home when they pull up to the house and she goes whose
• 32:09
  house is this? Does anyone live here because
• 32:12
  the houses all look the same. Oh, hilarious, Molly, Speaking
• 32:15
  of montages, like yes, it the movie opens on a montage of like
• 32:21
  the magazines, but also it opens on just like shot after shot of
• 32:25
  these houses. And it's funny to me because The
• 32:28
  Who am I to judge the camera work in a Disney Channel or
• 32:30
  Michelle movie? But you like, it's kind of like
• 32:33
  uneven and like wobbly and it's just, it's so tight to like I
• 32:42
  was. No drone shots.
• 32:45
  I was laughing just at brick house after brick house after
• 32:48
  brick house and I'm like, they could actually all be the same
• 32:51
  house. Like the way that this is shot
• 32:53
  and yeah, that the way that it killed cut is.
• 32:56
  Very funny because you're right, it could have been just like 1
• 33:01
  loop. Yes, over and over.
• 33:03
  Pretty funny, pretty funny. But I did like the there were
• 33:06
  these funny little jokes in it that weren't so heavy-handed as
• 33:12
  Disney Channel original movies often can be with love and
• 33:15
  light. But like the house is all the
• 33:18
  same. The fact that all the girls got
• 33:20
  matching shoes because Oh my God, because she thinks that
• 33:24
  she's got one-of-a-kind shoes and the other girls are like, I
• 33:27
  found those shoes. We're all going to have the same
• 33:28
  shoes. And she was like, oh, God,
• 33:32
  everything's the same. And then, yeah, pulling up to
• 33:35
  the house and being like, wait, whose house is this?
• 33:38
  Does anyone live here? You know, you're, you're stuck
• 33:41
  in a loop. Every street is the same name.
• 33:43
  It's all like Mayflower Lade, Mayflower Court, Mayflower Dr.
• 33:47
  Like, all of that was pretty funny.
• 33:53
  And the fact that her name is Brittany and she's like, I'm one
• 33:54
  of seven at Macy's. It's yeah, there's so many.
• 34:00
  Great, like the brother is a funny and I would argue like
• 34:06
  ultimately pretty unimportant character, but like he's just he
• 34:12
  again is another character scene moment, something that I saw in
• 34:16
  this film rewatching and I'm like, oh, he looms so large in
• 34:20
  my memory of this film, like this kid who's like hiding under
• 34:23
  her sister's bed all the time, like hanging out behind her.
• 34:26
  Door on her. A hilarious gag, by the way,
• 34:30
  and. So there's this whole subplot
• 34:33
  that feels like a generous term because there is no plot, but it
• 34:37
  is this sub sub thing of brother just trying to eavesdrop, I
• 34:41
  guess, on his sister, don't really prank her.
• 34:45
  And it's it's delightful, but it's so stupid.
• 34:49
  Yeah, there is no point to it. There's no point to it except
• 34:51
  for being like my little brother.
• 34:55
  And she's got an older sister who is like a brainiac and she
• 34:59
  is nervous when she's driving. She's a horrible driver, but
• 35:02
  pretty pretty much good at everything else.
• 35:04
  And again, I think that the whole point of that is basically
• 35:06
  it's just like my older sister. Yeah, you're like, I'm the metal
• 35:12
  child. Life is crazy life.
• 35:14
  Is nuts and it's funny because I don't know if you want to get
• 35:18
  really meta with your analysis of stuck in the suburbs.
• 35:21
  Well, there's something to be said for like, okay, everybody
• 35:23
  felt this way growing up, right? And if Disney Channel, like,
• 35:29
  which I would not expect them to do, but like watching it back as
• 35:32
  an adult, I'm like, OK, yeah, I felt this way as a kid.
• 35:36
  Every person in any town in anywhere wherever felt this way.
• 35:41
  But what's funny is because Brittany is kind of like, her
• 35:45
  older sister is kind of this awkward brainiac.
• 35:47
  Her younger brother is kind of bothering her, like all these
• 35:50
  things. And she's like, oh, shucks.
• 35:52
  Well, like she's right to think. Well, shucks.
• 35:56
  Like the setup is not. The setup is like maybe more
• 36:01
  generous to her than she actually deserves.
• 36:06
  Yeah, Yeah, I think that is true.
• 36:09
  Except for her mom, I feel like she gives her mom a hard time
• 36:12
  and her mom is like a. Cool lady she seems so patient
• 36:17
  like really cool like thoughtful.
• 36:20
  I am kind of curious, like, OK, so the the whole thing for the
• 36:25
  mom is that she wants to save this historic house in their
• 36:29
  town. She's like, it's the only thing
• 36:31
  left that's not like the mall. It's the only thing left that's
• 36:35
  not a Chili's. It's the only thing left that
• 36:38
  makes it unique. And I'm kind of like, maybe I
• 36:43
  was not paying attention fully, but I was kind of like, but what
• 36:46
  is the house and who what's at stake?
• 36:50
  The stakes felt I knew that they were important to her, but I was
• 36:54
  kind of like, OK, well, is this going to be bought by private
• 36:57
  equity and like turn into something, something bad?
• 37:01
  Is this a house for what? For what?
• 37:05
  See Molly again, I think we returned to our earlier point of
• 37:08
  we could write this and it would be so much better.
• 37:12
  And frankly, it would have been a lot better, no like.
• 37:13
  There's lots of, I had the same question.
• 37:15
  There's you. You were paying perfectly close
• 37:18
  attention, I think because yeah, there is.
• 37:22
  What is the house? Who is it being sold?
• 37:24
  To right. Is it the house?
• 37:27
  Is it like a historic landmark that they want to tear down to
• 37:31
  turn into a cuffy chain? Like what do they want to do?
• 37:35
  Are they trying to get into a park?
• 37:36
  There are other ways that this, that storyline could be.
• 37:41
  We could get details about that storyline that make it more
• 37:44
  interesting or telling. And yeah, there's not, there's
• 37:48
  not a lot of legs there. I do wish that it would have
• 37:52
  been like an old tree, you know what I mean?
• 37:54
  I wish that it would have been like the oldest oak tree in the
• 37:57
  town. And they're like, this oak tree
• 37:59
  is as old as this town, 50 years, because that's when
• 38:02
  suburbs started. And like, you know, don't tear
• 38:07
  down this tree to make a mall, you know?
• 38:11
  And if her mom would have been like an environmentalist, like,
• 38:14
  that would have been a really cool thing.
• 38:17
  But instead it is this old decrepit house.
• 38:21
  That actually doesn't seem to have.
• 38:23
  We never are told what it's connection to the town is.
• 38:28
  And so again, I think like a cool thing that might have might
• 38:33
  have happened if we had written description, it's like, OK,
• 38:36
  wait, does Brittany realize through her mom?
• 38:38
  'S activism question mark. That like, wait, the town that
• 38:42
  she's from, that she degrades so much in her own mind is actually
• 38:46
  this really cool place. It's like rife with history and
• 38:50
  like, beautiful tree, you know, whatever.
• 38:52
  Yeah, whatever the threat is that you want to pull on the one
• 38:56
  place in America with a beautiful tree.
• 38:59
  But like I think there it's it was wild to watch because they
• 39:03
  get so close to so many things that the movie itself never
• 39:08
  actually connects. But watching it, I'm like.
• 39:10
  Wait, you could you could connect all these scenes really,
• 39:14
  It would be really easy. Instead we spend time doing like
• 39:19
  a flashback. We had like 3 different
• 39:21
  flashbacks to other times in this movie.
• 39:25
  Yeah, I forgot about that. In an 80 minute movie, it was
• 39:28
  like And in case you forgot 40 minutes ago, there's a scene
• 39:32
  with these girls dancing around their room.
• 39:35
  Oh, and like the Oh my gosh, does this happen at the end
• 39:38
  where like Brenda Song and Danielle Panabaker become
• 39:42
  friends again 'cause they have like the slight risk and then
• 39:44
  they do the. Montage, so many montages
• 39:46
  obviously, obviously of like their friendship that I think
• 39:50
  started like 3 days before. Totally yes.
• 39:52
  They're like and remember every moment of their friendship up
• 39:54
  until now that you just saw. And it's like key scene is like
• 39:58
  them both being. Goalies in the soccer, yeah,
• 40:02
  like being bombarded with balls. And it's like, all so tender.
• 40:06
  They're like, oh, my God, remember that?
• 40:07
  Remember that from 20 minutes ago?
• 40:09
  Yeah. So there was time, you know,
• 40:12
  there was time that they could have used to just, like, make a
• 40:15
  couple of connections. But at the same time I didn't
• 40:18
  care. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 40:19
  I was like, yeah, totally. She should go and support her
• 40:23
  mom. It made me.
• 40:25
  Did you ever make movies as a kid?
• 40:27
  Of course. So it made me think about movies
• 40:30
  that my sister and our friends and I would that we would all
• 40:33
  make as kids. And I would always like, you
• 40:36
  know, just being type A probably annoying.
• 40:40
  You were the. Director, I was the writer
• 40:41
  director. Like I would try to give people
• 40:44
  some space and like let them star in it.
• 40:46
  But I would have like pretty large secondary role for sure.
• 40:50
  Yeah, because not greedy, but. Obviously, she's not going to be
• 40:54
  the star, the writer and the director and the producer.
• 40:57
  Too much, Too much. She's got to be the Co *.
• 41:01
  But I like we still have so many of those movies and even when I
• 41:06
  was younger, especially now, but even when I was younger, I would
• 41:09
  look back like we would rewatch those those films and I'd be
• 41:13
  like, yeah, this makes no sense. Yeah, you know things.
• 41:17
  And again, having been the writer, I I like could remind
• 41:21
  myself of oh, this is I knew how I was thinking about all these
• 41:25
  blocks and story pieces, but I wasn't an artful enough like
• 41:29
  artist to actually connect anything.
• 41:32
  And then I watched this movie and I'm like, you were actually
• 41:35
  punching pretty. You were.
• 41:38
  You're still some more credit. You were punching above your
• 41:40
  weight class like it's. It was wild.
• 41:43
  And it was like, comforting to realize, yeah, OK.
• 41:48
  Even just channel original movies, they're not connecting
• 41:51
  all the dots. Not everyone is connecting all
• 41:53
  the dots. No, they're just throwing stuff
• 41:55
  at the wall. There's not a full writers room
• 41:57
  in there. No, no, no, no.
• 42:00
  No, no. No, no, no, no one, no one went
• 42:02
  through the script and said I'm going to punch this up.
• 42:04
  Yeah. No, not once.
• 42:06
  They said first draft, great, let's go.
• 42:08
  Yeah, absolutely. And I'm so glad they did.
• 42:10
  Yeah, they had a, they had so much like limited to style sets,
• 42:19
  which I loved. I loved, of course, the the
• 42:23
  classic teen star posters all over the wall.
• 42:28
  And then like, of course she's like embarrassed.
• 42:31
  And so when her friend comes over, she's like, I got to take
• 42:33
  all down all the posters from the wall and she's got these big
• 42:36
  ass flowers, like daisies everywhere.
• 42:39
  Everything is like that, light purple.
• 42:43
  I just. Yeah, the color palette amazing,
• 42:46
  limited to like in the outfits in the bedroom, like everything,
• 42:51
  but also the Libby Lou hairstyles.
• 42:53
  You know, I'm like, oh, this is it's again.
• 42:57
  Even as a 30 year old adult, I'm looking at this.
• 43:00
  I'm like, shit. That's cool.
• 43:01
  That's pretty. Cool, that's cool cuz it spoke
• 43:03
  to what I knew was cool at the time of.
• 43:05
  Course, and it will always be cool.
• 43:07
  Always. I never played soccer.
• 43:08
  I would love a soccer ball purse.
• 43:11
  Actually, that's not true. I played soccer when I was five.
• 43:13
  OK, there I am. OK, but I wouldn't.
• 43:17
  Be cool you. Got me.
• 43:21
  I would walk around and just kind of like, wave on my
• 43:24
  parents, like, pick daisies, like, kind of just, you know,
• 43:28
  you're like, Molly, go to the ball.
• 43:29
  And I just say, hey, everyone, I might be here.
• 43:33
  Look at me. I'm running around with my
• 43:34
  friends. But that's what being 5 and
• 43:37
  playing soccer is, right? Yeah.
• 43:39
  I think so. Anyway, so I want a soccer ball
• 43:43
  bag. Yeah, like.
• 43:45
  It's, I really honed it on that bag and I was like, I I don't
• 43:49
  think that I would actively seek that out and spend money on it
• 43:53
  now. But I do want it.
• 43:54
  I deeply, deeply want it, yeah. And the thing that also is kind
• 43:58
  of sad to me is that like there probably is something like that
• 44:02
  Urban Outfitters. And it's sort of like, I want, I
• 44:07
  say out of one side of my mouth that I want it.
• 44:09
  And then on the other side I'm like, but I don't want it.
• 44:12
  I don't want it like that. Like, I don't want, I don't want
• 44:15
  other people who weren't there, you know, I don't want, I don't
• 44:19
  want this TikTok generation. You know, I you need to
• 44:22
  understand that this is a stuck in the suburbs reference when I
• 44:24
  carry my soccer ball. Back.
• 44:25
  Know your history, know the lore.
• 44:31
  Yeah, we said that there was not lore around this film.
• 44:33
  False. Absolutely.
• 44:35
  There absolutely is. You're so right.
• 44:37
  A lot of a lot of really interesting hats, a lot of
• 44:40
  really interesting little scarves.
• 44:42
  We talked about this last week with High School Musical as
• 44:45
  well. I mean, that was 2006.
• 44:47
  This is 2004, but skinny little scarves.
• 44:50
  Yeah. Were huge, big time, a lot of
• 44:52
  colors that I wouldn't say go together, no, but they work.
• 44:58
  But they work. Don't match but.
• 44:59
  Work. Yeah, totally.
• 45:00
  Yeah. Yeah, it was the era.
• 45:02
  It was the era of just kind of saying, is this color loud?
• 45:07
  Perfect. Perfect, I'll take 3 and I'm
• 45:11
  going to layer all of them with layer.
• 45:13
  Layer scarf, please. I'm looking back at my notes and
• 45:19
  trying to think of of different things that really like stuck
• 45:23
  out to me. I think of course, the
• 45:26
  technology was so iconic. I mean, this is a movie about
• 45:30
  cell phones being accidentally swapped, swapping a phone with a
• 45:34
  pop star. And this was this came out
• 45:39
  before I had a cell phone. I didn't get a cell phone until
• 45:41
  a few years later, but but I did love seeing like the the vintage
• 45:47
  tech, beautiful, lovely. But also this was a time in
• 45:53
  which like, you know, of course, people weren't always carrying
• 45:57
  their phones around. So it was sort of, it was
• 46:01
  believable that like you could be without your phone for like 5
• 46:05
  days and your life wouldn't really be that different.
• 46:08
  I mean, it's only the fact that she has the phone of a pop star,
• 46:12
  not that she is missing her own phone, you know what I mean?
• 46:16
  Totally. Her mom is not like no one's
• 46:18
  looking at Find My Friends. There's no It's so simple.
• 46:21
  I will say the scene in which the phone swap happens, that is
• 46:27
  another comical element that deserves to be discussed because
• 46:31
  it is out after a concert or a meet and greet.
• 46:34
  Yeah, he's doing like he's filming a music video, and so
• 46:37
  everyone's there watching because this is the most
• 46:40
  exciting thing that's happened in their town and ever since
• 46:43
  they built that old fucking house.
• 46:45
  You know, and he like, walks out, Jordan Cahill walks out
• 46:49
  into this scene of a door, this sea of adoring fan.
• 46:53
  And in all of the hubbub, like his producer drops his phone or
• 46:58
  Jordan drops his phone. And So what ensues?
• 47:01
  Is this like dramatic scramble? Where it is truly.
• 47:04
  Just like Brittany Aaron's maybe use her last name and Danielle
• 47:08
  Panabaker, whoever the the protagonist is then like just on
• 47:13
  her heads and knees moving, not even moving.
• 47:16
  Things around actually just kind of patting, kind of patting.
• 47:20
  And Jordan Cahill's producer is doing the same.
• 47:21
  But they're just, they never once look at each other in the
• 47:24
  eye. They never say, oh, sorry,
• 47:26
  here's they do not. They're truly rushing.
• 47:29
  And I can't really remember. Why they're rushing they're.
• 47:31
  Rushing but are just patting the ground despite if I get the only
• 47:35
  thing on the ground is they're 2 phones nothing else.
• 47:38
  There's not leaves covering, there's covering the phones and
• 47:42
  and yet it feels like a really long drawn out.
• 47:45
  I was laughing just at the length.
• 47:47
  I'm like this could be two seconds and we would understand.
• 47:49
  Yeah, but it was really more like 7 to 8, like of them just
• 47:53
  going pat, pat, pat, pat, pat, pat, pat.
• 47:56
  And then, of course, ending up with the wrong phone.
• 47:59
  And having in my memory very different looking phones, like
• 48:04
  visually and yet still not realizing what has happened
• 48:10
  after grabbing the phone that is not theirs, getting onto a bus,
• 48:15
  exiting different directions on the stage.
• 48:17
  And yeah, it's, it's wild. It is wild, but you know, I
• 48:23
  guess it is also a time when like not everyone has a phone.
• 48:27
  So it's not like everyone has like their own unique phone
• 48:31
  case. I mean, obviously both of those
• 48:33
  were unique, but you know, it's like there's only so many types
• 48:38
  of phones. I don't know.
• 48:41
  I'm really doing a lot of work trying to justify it, but I
• 48:44
  think it really is, you know, I think she was just so swept at
• 48:48
  the moment and having just seen. The Jordan blinded by fame.
• 48:53
  You're right. That makes it makes sense, yeah.
• 48:54
  That makes it makes sense. And with his floppy ass dumbass
• 48:57
  long hair. That's why he couldn't see his
• 48:59
  phone. That's.
• 49:00
  Exactly right. He couldn't see his phone.
• 49:01
  It was in his eyes. OK, so they like.
• 49:07
  One thing I love about the relationship between Brittany
• 49:10
  and Natasha is that even though Natasha is in fact not from
• 49:13
  Europe and has not been living there and her dad just travels
• 49:17
  for work to Buffalo, NY, she, she has the confidence of a
• 49:24
  London Tipton of a Alexis from Schitt's Creek.
• 49:29
  That's her name. Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding,
• 49:31
  Ding. She has the confidence of that
• 49:33
  type of woman who, and it really gives Brittany an opportunity to
• 49:39
  grow. Like when she goes into the into
• 49:42
  the hotel and she's like, you just have to act like you know
• 49:45
  what you're doing and you have to be confident and you'll get
• 49:47
  what you want. And I mean, how formative was
• 49:51
  that for me as a nine year old watching that and saying, wow, I
• 49:54
  really could get away with a lot if I was just confident?
• 49:57
  And then the next day, only with her first fun, that's fun.
• 50:02
  And she walked in and said, that's right, I'm Jewish.
• 50:07
  So, you know, wield your confidence.
• 50:10
  Yeah, thoroughly. Look, OK, I'm not going to be
• 50:13
  that person that's like, well, I have Jewish friends, but I do
• 50:16
  have, I did tell a, a couple of Jewish friends that I did as a
• 50:20
  nine year old claim a Jewish identity and they said, I think
• 50:24
  that's awesome. We.
• 50:25
  We. There we go.
• 50:32
  I did not convert, but I still think I mean, I start, but
• 50:36
  honestly, I still I'm like what AI was like this is a beautiful
• 50:39
  culture. I was like, this is so fun.
• 50:42
  Well, I just want to have a bucket.
• 50:43
  I really just want to have a party, frankly.
• 50:45
  I mean, Meredith Marx did it at like, you know, 50, whatever,
• 50:48
  but she was actually Jewish MyHeritage, so.
• 50:53
  But no, the confidence is oh, it's it is genuinely striking to
• 50:59
  and I don't even mean this in like a in a in a bad way.
• 51:03
  It was it was actually genuinely inspiring to watch this movie to
• 51:08
  clock and remind yourself I'm watching the IT.
• 51:11
  They seemed older than 13 to me, but they are in fact supposed to
• 51:14
  be 13 year olds and or even 12 like depending on mid like when
• 51:19
  middle school starts. But when that hotel seat.
• 51:23
  I'm so glad you Oh my God, because I had to like rewire my
• 51:27
  brain to remind myself this is a 13 year old girl like going up
• 51:33
  to also a 13 year old belt like Dell belly and basically being
• 51:37
  like, no, we're we're we're going to go into Jordan Cahill's
• 51:41
  room and it it is laughable and shocking on the one hand, but it
• 51:47
  is also like, wait, the message that she's delivering to
• 51:50
  Brittany and to young viewers everywhere all.
• 51:54
  The viewers like me. Is like, no, you can be loud.
• 51:59
  You can like yeah, so. You can be like, you can be
• 52:03
  strategic in getting what you want, like you can solve
• 52:05
  problems. You can you can just not take no
• 52:09
  for an answer when when an adult tells you no.
• 52:15
  Or I mean, yeah, he was basically their peer, that belt.
• 52:19
  Totally. But still when someone in.
• 52:21
  Authority tells you you. Can't just be confident and
• 52:24
  maybe they'll just let you get away with it.
• 52:28
  And I also think something that was that really made an
• 52:31
  impression on me was just this narrative of like the tortured
• 52:37
  pop star, like the pop star who wants to just like be in touch
• 52:40
  with his like real artistry. It's very like Britney Spears
• 52:46
  lucky. You know, it was, I think that
• 52:49
  this was like a common, a common tale at the time.
• 52:53
  And unfortunately, it just didn't really translate to a
• 52:56
  shift in cultural perception of pop stars.
• 53:00
  Like, it didn't make it didn't make us as a culture be like,
• 53:05
  oh, we should really let pop stars have more autonomy.
• 53:09
  It was just like, yeah, Oh my God, That's like, so sad.
• 53:12
  Yeah, yeah. I will say there was a moment at
• 53:15
  many moments throughout the movie where I was like, is this
• 53:18
  an anti capitalist movie? I know I was like, is this Josie
• 53:22
  and the Pussycat? I was like, hold on, hold on.
• 53:24
  We're we're getting somewhere just because there is this
• 53:28
  tension, which I feel like a lot of Disney movies did play with
• 53:32
  because they like want you to. And I, I kind of like this.
• 53:36
  They like want the viewers to see themselves in a lot of the,
• 53:41
  the like kids that are just normal kids, but then also they
• 53:45
  want the normal kids in the movie to see themselves in the
• 53:47
  pop stars. They want the kids that are
• 53:48
  watching to see themselves in the pop stars.
• 53:50
  Like that's cool. But there is this tension
• 53:52
  between Jordan pop star but really just a regular guy but.
• 53:57
  Really just a songwriter. Yeah, and his, like production,
• 54:01
  his management team, that one of the his producers is like his
• 54:05
  best friend from growing up. So he's kind of more aligned
• 54:09
  with Jordan. But the manager is the real like
• 54:12
  if this movie has a villain, which is a stretch, then it's
• 54:15
  the manager. But that was an interesting
• 54:17
  tension to see play out because, yes, it is simple and it's kind
• 54:21
  of expected for a Disney Channel movie.
• 54:22
  But I was like, wait, this is kind of sick.
• 54:25
  Right. Yeah, but they're like, wait,
• 54:27
  maybe I shouldn't just do what these people say just because
• 54:31
  they're making money off of me. Yeah, it was really interesting
• 54:33
  watching. I watched, Sorry, Knocked Mike
• 54:36
  watch this movie early yesterday evening.
• 54:40
  Later yesterday evening, I watched the Moment, the Charli
• 54:44
  XCX mockumentary about about like basically her her
• 54:52
  management taking over this brat tour and making it into
• 54:55
  something like totally ridiculous.
• 54:58
  It's very good. I would recommend it.
• 55:01
  But it was hilarious watching those two right next to each
• 55:04
  other because I mean, the plot is so similar that it's like
• 55:07
  this pop star that like everyone who's trying to like make a buck
• 55:13
  off of this person is, is putting them into a box and
• 55:16
  trying to make them into this version of themselves that they
• 55:20
  aren't. And trying to just like please
• 55:22
  the record label and please Amazon and please like all of
• 55:25
  these different stakeholders at the cost of the artistry.
• 55:31
  And it was, I mean, both of them were like caricatures of the pop
• 55:37
  star experience and also like, portrayed in a way that, like,
• 55:43
  could not be more different because one is the moment
• 55:46
  produced by Charli XCX. The other is a Disney Channel
• 55:48
  original movie. But they could not exist without
• 55:51
  each other. They could not exist without
• 55:53
  each other, exactly. Stuck in the suburbs, Jordan
• 55:56
  Cahill walked so Charli XCX could run.
• 55:58
  That is exactly right, and I've always said it right.
• 56:01
  I've been saying that since 2004.
• 56:03
  Absolutely. I've been saying that about
• 56:04
  Taran Killam for years. I've always been saying he one
• 56:08
  day will influence pop star Charli XCX.
• 56:12
  In fact, all of celebrity the way that we think about and
• 56:15
  consume celebrities. Exactly.
• 56:17
  Yeah. So thanks, Karen.
• 56:18
  Totally. But it was, you know, I was kind
• 56:20
  of thinking like, you know, by the end of the movie, it seems
• 56:23
  like Jordan and Brittany are friends.
• 56:28
  Or are they something more? She's like, oh, I'll see you in
• 56:32
  New York, like, blah, blah, blah.
• 56:34
  I couldn't really tell, like what's the nature of this
• 56:36
  relationship? Now I know and I as much I, I
• 56:41
  felt myself like want them, wanting them to become something
• 56:44
  more, but I have to. I'm kind of glad that the movie
• 56:47
  doesn't dive too much into that because at the end of the day,
• 56:50
  it is just a movie about a girl navigating her life with her
• 56:55
  friends, like how a normal person thinks about celebrity.
• 56:59
  Britney herself wants to be an artist one day.
• 57:01
  And so it's like, oh, I like that.
• 57:03
  They don't even they don't they did not lean into having to make
• 57:08
  it a romance movie, right? Or even like, oh, the happy
• 57:11
  ending requires that not just Britney's already had her stroke
• 57:15
  of luck and switched from with a pop star.
• 57:16
  As if that weren't enough, well, now it's her boyfriend too.
• 57:19
  Like I'm glad as much as I felt myself be like, oh, are they
• 57:23
  something more? Well, they won't.
• 57:24
  Be Oh, I kind of like that we keep this movie just like, no,
• 57:27
  no, no, that's not what has to happen to actually like wrap
• 57:30
  this up and to give us an ending.
• 57:32
  The primary relationship is between these two girls and
• 57:35
  their friendship. Yeah.
• 57:36
  And I, of course, I will take a movie about female friendship
• 57:40
  over a romance any day. Yeah.
• 57:41
  Because that is, those are the relationships that matter.
• 57:44
  That's a true love story. Yeah.
• 57:46
  There we go. There you go.
• 57:47
  Yeah, they get the montage. Three weeks together.
• 57:52
  But it is so magical when you're that age and you like, meet some
• 57:55
  really cool girl and like, you just hit it off and you're like,
• 58:00
  it doesn't even matter that they don't like the same pop star.
• 58:03
  And also that's crazy because like, that seems to be what
• 58:06
  really bonds the rest of the girls together is that they're
• 58:08
  like, we live in this boring place.
• 58:09
  We play soccer and we love Jordan.
• 58:13
  Done. You know, it really did remind
• 58:16
  me of, like, the how easy it was to make.
• 58:20
  Like, just because you don't have to have that much in
• 58:23
  common. Yeah, you really don't.
• 58:26
  Totally. In fact, you can lie about your
• 58:28
  identity. You can be a totally different
• 58:29
  person and you can still actually be really good friends.
• 58:32
  Right? Yeah.
• 58:33
  And also, it's like, you know, she did lie about, you know, who
• 58:37
  she was, like where she was from, but she wasn't like, she
• 58:42
  wasn't really like deceptive in her relationship with her.
• 58:47
  She wasn't trying to like, make a friend so that she could
• 58:50
  bamboozle them and like, take advantage of her.
• 58:53
  She just truly like, wanted a friend.
• 58:55
  And I feel like this is important to note too, that even
• 58:58
  though Brenda Song yes, lies, Natasha lies about like being
• 59:03
  from Europe, etcetera, she, like you said, she's not doing it to
• 59:07
  like climb some social ladder like which it feels important.
• 59:11
  You know, I feel like there is other movies of this genre where
• 59:15
  that is the storyline, like, Oh, I'm lying to get to the top or
• 59:20
  like to be popular. And though I, it seems like
• 59:25
  that's not really what Natasha is trying to do, though she does
• 59:27
  get a friend out of it. It's like she's lying because
• 59:31
  she has these big dreams that she wishes were true, which is
• 59:35
  maybe what actually is the commonality between her and
• 59:37
  Brittany. Right, absolutely think it is
• 59:40
  that they both have dreams beyond this.
• 59:42
  Town. This town.
• 59:43
  Yeah. And so they go about it in
• 59:44
  different ways. Like Natasha's is backwards,
• 59:47
  like changing her path. OK, maybe they were tonight.
• 59:50
  Maybe it wasn't writers for it. Oh, my gosh.
• 59:52
  Maybe it was. And Brittany is like looking
• 59:54
  towards the future. She wants to be a songwriter
• 59:56
  too. She wants to sing.
• 59:58
  And so I liked that. Like, there's not.
• 1:00:01
  They actually do have a genuine friendship.
• 1:00:04
  And those lies aren't like. They're not actually the
• 1:00:08
  foundation upon which the friendship is built.
• 1:00:11
  It's just. The way that they are first able
• 1:00:13
  to connect, it's like the entry point for her to be like, Oh my
• 1:00:16
  God, that's so cool that you're from a different place.
• 1:00:18
  And then they can continue the conversation.
• 1:00:20
  It's not like, well, my favorite thing about her is that she has
• 1:00:23
  been to New York. Yeah, and then I'm going to,
• 1:00:26
  she's going to take me to New York, too.
• 1:00:28
  No, they actually have like a very pure friendship.
• 1:00:31
  And it's interesting to watch on screen, like especially a Disney
• 1:00:36
  Channel movie, to see them be like, wait, friend, kind of
• 1:00:39
  admit friendship can be tough. You can have, you can start off
• 1:00:42
  on different feet and you can still work through it in a way
• 1:00:45
  that's like honest and human. And yeah, it was like a
• 1:00:49
  interesting, good little road map.
• 1:00:52
  Yeah, yeah. And ultimately, like,
• 1:00:56
  ultimately, they come around and both realize that like, they
• 1:00:59
  have made mistakes. It's not like Britney has been
• 1:01:03
  totally honest either. Like they've both been dishonest
• 1:01:06
  in different ways. Yeah, you know, Yeah, They share
• 1:01:08
  fatal flaws. They do.
• 1:01:10
  And that's important. And that is the foundation of
• 1:01:13
  pawn. And that is the foundation of
• 1:01:15
  pawn fatal flaws, absolutely. And what's ours.
• 1:01:19
  So listener, go ahead and write in and let us know what you
• 1:01:21
  think our fatal flaws are. Obviously mine is what I'm not
• 1:01:27
  even getting. I'm not even going to get into
• 1:01:29
  it. We're not going to bring it up
• 1:01:30
  again. We're not.
• 1:01:30
  I'm not talking again about how I told people I was Jewish when
• 1:01:33
  I wasn't. We're not talking about that.
• 1:01:36
  No, the soundtrack was pretty fun.
• 1:01:39
  Honestly, soundtrack awesome. Great.
• 1:01:41
  Here is 1 unanswered question that I was trying to figure out
• 1:01:47
  online that I could. Who is the voice that The Who is
• 1:01:51
  the voice of Jordan Cahill? Because it's not Taron Killam.
• 1:01:57
  And apparently I saw somewhere on some Reddit thread there was
• 1:02:02
  there were rumors that it might have been Drew Seeley, but
• 1:02:05
  apparently a Redditor do you have Drew Sealy and said, is
• 1:02:09
  this you in the movie? And he said that ain't me dog.
• 1:02:12
  That ain't me, dog. So.
• 1:02:15
  The mystery continues. Yeah, because the rest of the
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  track list, you know, we have Hayley Duff, Jesse McCartney, We
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  have like, a few other people. And then the the More Than Me
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  song, the pop version and the acoustic on Top of the World and
• 1:02:29
  Make a Wish. Just Jordan Cahill.
• 1:02:32
  That's interesting. Who's Jordan Cahill?
• 1:02:37
  Who are you? Where are you?
• 1:02:39
  I just, wow, that's something I really, really want to get into.
• 1:02:46
  I really need to know. Oh this is funny.
• 1:02:50
  No one at SNL knew that Taron Killam starred in Disney Stuck
• 1:02:55
  in the Suburbs until Miley Cyrus hosted.
• 1:02:58
  Was he in other Disney Channel original movies?
• 1:03:01
  I believe he was. Let me let me go to his
• 1:03:04
  Wikipedia page that I looked at on the ride over here.
• 1:03:08
  He was in the Amanda Show. OK, so not not Disney, but
• 1:03:17
  Nickelodeon. Yeah, same universe.
• 1:03:20
  You know, yeah, totally. Same, same circuit of kids.
• 1:03:24
  OK, let's see any other. No, he was just, he did Naked
• 1:03:33
  Gun 33 and one third, The final Insult, which was when he was a
• 1:03:38
  boy. Then he was in The Amanda Show
• 1:03:42
  and then he joined Mad TV. Then Wild and Out, Nobody's
• 1:03:48
  Watching. Then he was in Stuck in the
• 1:03:50
  Suburbs. And then I yeah, there's, that's
• 1:03:56
  it. As far as Disney Channel
• 1:03:58
  original movies. Dang, yeah.
• 1:04:01
  Honestly, this OK, I'm ready for this take, for you to debate
• 1:04:07
  this take. Oh my God.
• 1:04:08
  But does he have the best, the most consistent career out of
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  like a Disney Channel? Whoa, you know, like obviously
• 1:04:18
  he wasn't actually a pop star right when he was playing Jordan
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  Cahill. But I feel like to go from being
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  a Disney Channel kid, you know, not one of the mains
• 1:04:29
  necessarily, but still like prominent Disney Channel kid to
• 1:04:33
  then like end up on SNL, right? That's a pretty you're like
• 1:04:39
  you're punching in big circuits. Yes, at two different times of
• 1:04:43
  your own, you know, Yeah, that feels impressive and noteworthy.
• 1:04:47
  Does does he have the widest range?
• 1:04:49
  You know what I mean? Because it's like, is he?
• 1:04:52
  The real star, is he the real star?
• 1:04:54
  It was right under our noses all along and that is such a Disney
• 1:04:58
  Channel original movie trope. It it was right in front of me
• 1:05:01
  all along. And Taron Killam, normal looking
• 1:05:05
  guy. You too huge.
• 1:05:09
  We could all be terrible. And truly, why not me?
• 1:05:14
  He's not better looking than me. He's not better looking than
• 1:05:17
  you. I'm sorry, but like, we could
• 1:05:18
  have, I could have been up there.
• 1:05:20
  I could be up there and be like I'm a pop *.
• 1:05:23
  You know, I believe that and I believe.
• 1:05:25
  That, and I'm only saying that in the universe of Stuck in the
• 1:05:28
  Suburbs, in which Taron Killam can also be a pop star.
• 1:05:32
  I'm not saying I was destined for it.
• 1:05:34
  I'm saying if that is true, then this is also true.
• 1:05:38
  This is also true, yeah. Damn, is it too late for us to
• 1:05:44
  be pop stars? No, I think the path is clear.
• 1:05:46
  We have switch phones. Yeah, switch phones.
• 1:05:50
  First of all, switch phones. I'm gonna leave the studio and
• 1:05:52
  I'm gonna go drop my phone. And then pat around.
• 1:05:57
  It'll surely end well for me. Absolutely.
• 1:05:59
  No, I think genuinely the path is we write a screenplay.
• 1:06:02
  I don't know if we take it to Disney or if we shoot a bit
• 1:06:04
  higher. Yeah, we, we maybe see, we, we
• 1:06:08
  see what kind of material we come up with.
• 1:06:11
  But the the point is it's, it's not that hard.
• 1:06:15
  It can't be. That hard.
• 1:06:17
  That hard and I say that with a lot of love for this movie
• 1:06:19
  again, to be clear, I feel like I'm really ragging on the plot,
• 1:06:21
  but I'm like. No, but also it's a perfect
• 1:06:23
  movie. That's The thing is that we have
• 1:06:25
  so many notes, but it is also a perfect movie.
• 1:06:28
  Yeah, yeah. It's just, it's just a fun
• 1:06:31
  little ride. Yeah, you know, I, I said before
• 1:06:34
  we started recording, I could watch this every day and I
• 1:06:37
  really could. I feel like it's just so it's so
• 1:06:40
  easy to watch, yeah. This is gonna sound.
• 1:06:45
  This is this is attention. Maybe.
• 1:06:46
  But you know, when I started reading A Court of Thorn of
• 1:06:50
  Thorn Roses Agatur, yeah, whatever.
• 1:06:53
  I was like, I love reading this because it reminds me of Harry
• 1:06:56
  Potter. Like, it's not even for the
• 1:06:58
  SMUD. I'm like, it's just it's so the
• 1:07:00
  lines of good and evil are so clear.
• 1:07:03
  And you know what side you're there, there.
• 1:07:05
  I love nuance, but it's so fun to read a book where it's like,
• 1:07:10
  no, there's not nuance. My guys are the good guys,
• 1:07:13
  totally. There's no doubt about that.
• 1:07:15
  Everyone else is evil. My guys are fun, they are funny.
• 1:07:19
  We just love each other. Like you feel like you're a part
• 1:07:21
  of the gang, and that's kind of what, again, not really a clear
• 1:07:24
  villain in this movie, but I like that the stakes are low but
• 1:07:28
  obvious. It's just so.
• 1:07:31
  Absolutely. Pandering.
• 1:07:32
  It's not, you know, but it's clear.
• 1:07:35
  It's something that, like, the stakes are so low that truly
• 1:07:39
  anyone could put themselves in that position.
• 1:07:42
  They're like, you know what, life is kind of boring in my
• 1:07:45
  town and that's it. Yeah.
• 1:07:48
  It's like life could be less boring.
• 1:07:51
  And those are the stakes. And this old house that my mom
• 1:07:55
  wants to preserve, like those are the stakes.
• 1:07:58
  And I love that. I love that.
• 1:08:00
  It's like, and for for Jordan, it's truly just like integrity.
• 1:08:04
  Those are the stakes. It's like, you know, either I
• 1:08:07
  live out my true artistry or I am a pop sensation.
• 1:08:11
  It's kind of like, all right. Doesn't don't really see a
• 1:08:13
  downside there. And it seems like a win win.
• 1:08:16
  Yeah. And it seems like again, Taryn
• 1:08:18
  the actor, when facing that decision from a character
• 1:08:23
  perspective, the actor himself, seemingly Taryn chose the path
• 1:08:27
  of integrity. He really did.
• 1:08:29
  He didn't become a pops and he didn't really.
• 1:08:30
  I don't feel like he sold out, like he pursued art his whole
• 1:08:35
  life long, built a thriving career like.
• 1:08:38
  Who among us will want that? Right.
• 1:08:42
  Yeah, Yeah. Well, I really think, I think
• 1:08:44
  it's a beautiful movie, beautiful message, easy to
• 1:08:47
  watch. The even the, I mean, yeah, it's
• 1:08:51
  like even the sort of like auteur version of his pop songs
• 1:08:58
  are perfect pop songs. It's entertaining as hell.
• 1:09:03
  And I just think that everyone should watch Stuck in the
• 1:09:06
  Suburbs tonight. It's golden.
• 1:09:08
  It's golden, yeah. And I know that we're supposed
• 1:09:12
  to not endorse Disney or Disney Plus, but this whole month we
• 1:09:16
  have been watching Disney Channel original movies and it
• 1:09:19
  is because of nostalgia and not because I love CBS.
• 1:09:22
  You don't make them like they used to.
• 1:09:24
  Girl, that is so true. And until we start making them
• 1:09:27
  again, and then we're going to make them just like they used.
• 1:09:29
  To resurgence that is the resurgence.
• 1:09:33
  Well, if you continue down this path of watching D coms, you
• 1:09:39
  should try to figure out when they like.
• 1:09:41
  What was the last great Disney Channel original movie?
• 1:09:45
  I don't know the answer to that question.
• 1:09:47
  That is. That's a question bigger than
• 1:09:51
  all of us, really. Listeners, write in with what
• 1:09:54
  you think was the last rate. Great.
• 1:09:57
  Yeah. I think it.
• 1:09:58
  Probably my guess is gonna be it was High School Musical, but I
• 1:10:03
  also I think that there were some some Disney Channel
• 1:10:07
  original movies that came out after that I just frankly did
• 1:10:11
  not see. Yeah, well, because the other
• 1:10:14
  thing I'll admit is is stuck in the suburbs, capital G Great.
• 1:10:19
  Like you know it. It's perhaps not it.
• 1:10:23
  It's that it belongs in this larger collection and genre and
• 1:10:29
  time of just like easy, awesome, simple, fun, relatable films.
• 1:10:36
  Yeah, low budget, Yeah. But it's like, I love that it
• 1:10:40
  was low, but you know. It's fun.
• 1:10:41
  Too. And so, I don't know, maybe with
• 1:10:43
  High School Musical like 3 or whatever, they got so high, but
• 1:10:47
  or seemingly, yeah. And that's where they lost some
• 1:10:50
  of their greatness, because they lost simplicity.
• 1:10:52
  I know, I know. That's why they can't.
• 1:10:55
  You can't have like, you can't turn your Disney Channel stars
• 1:10:59
  into real stars because then they want real grown up money.
• 1:11:04
  Oh no, we've become the manager. Oh no.
• 1:11:06
  Oh, no, That's what happens, folks, when you age.
• 1:11:10
  I'm looking. OK, I'm looking at a Wikipedia
• 1:11:12
  page with a list of all of the Disney Channel original movies,
• 1:11:15
  and I never saw Camp Rock, but I know that a lot of people love.
• 1:11:18
  It I mean another movie that I would say is like fantastic, but
• 1:11:25
  then you rewatch it and you're like, sorry, wait, what can you
• 1:11:28
  explain this to me? Sure, so she can't go to camp,
• 1:11:32
  but she there's again a lot of plot holes.
• 1:11:34
  Sure, sure, sure. And just, you know, wild, wild
• 1:11:36
  things, yeah, happen. But that's kind of what makes
• 1:11:39
  them great, right? He said.
• 1:11:41
  That was so. That was 2008.
• 1:11:42
  The Camp Rock came out and a lot of the rest of these.
• 1:11:46
  I mean, I hate to say it, I do not.
• 1:11:49
  I've never met them. Sorry to this man.
• 1:11:51
  I've never met these movies. Yeah, you know, so I cannot say
• 1:11:58
  objectively what the best the last great Disney Channel
• 1:12:02
  original movie was, but I am going to say for me it's High
• 1:12:06
  School Musical probably. Wait, that's 2006?
• 1:12:10
  So that's 2000. 6 jump in was good, Corbin blue was in there.
• 1:12:14
  Oh yeah, I forgot which is 2. Never saw that.
• 1:12:17
  Minutemen. Oh freak, I forget what that's
• 1:12:19
  about. This one is a science fiction
• 1:12:22
  movie. Interesting.
• 1:12:30
  It's about a couple of best friends.
• 1:12:31
  Classic. I mean, that is the beginning of
• 1:12:33
  every Disney Channel. Movie look.
• 1:12:34
  And that's all I need. I'm in, I'm in.
• 1:12:37
  But I do wonder. Like I wonder, do do kids today
• 1:12:43
  watch Disney Channel original movies?
• 1:12:45
  I don't know. I don't know either.
• 1:12:49
  I'll have to. I'll have to ask my niece.
• 1:12:51
  I'm. Like who to ask?
• 1:12:52
  Do you know? I know.
• 1:12:53
  I don't know any kids. I know it's tough.
• 1:12:55
  I don't know. I don't know a ton of kids.
• 1:12:57
  You know what? I'll ask my friend Annie's kids.
• 1:13:00
  They're like, they're like 7 and 10.
• 1:13:03
  I feel like that's the perfect, perfect ages.
• 1:13:05
  OK, I'll ask them and I'll get back to all of you.
• 1:13:07
  Don't worry. Is there anything else that we
• 1:13:09
  didn't discuss today that we must discuss about stuck in the
• 1:13:12
  suburbs or really anything that's.
• 1:13:14
  On the line. Anything you've been lying
• 1:13:16
  about? Sam, I wish that I I wish that I
• 1:13:19
  lied. Maybe I should lie.
• 1:13:20
  More I know I really wish that I lied more too yeah, I don't do
• 1:13:24
  I? This will shock you, but I don't
• 1:13:26
  really do it anymore. And you know, for better or
• 1:13:30
  worse, Yeah, for better or worse, I kind of grew out of
• 1:13:33
  lying or. Not, you know.
• 1:13:35
  Maybe. Yeah, that could be fun.
• 1:13:37
  Could be fun. No, I feel like we we touched on
• 1:13:40
  the movie. I really think we did too.
• 1:13:42
  Touched on everything, yeah. Yeah, I mean, look, we've been
• 1:13:46
  here for the runtime of the movie, So what else could be
• 1:13:49
  said? But everybody, please follow the
• 1:13:53
  podcast on social media. Please subscribe to the YouTube
• 1:13:56
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• 1:14:00
  Engagement, please. You love me.
• 1:14:04
  Give me the engagement. It will make me feel better
• 1:14:06
  about myself. And we need that now more than
• 1:14:10
  ever. Make my day.
• 1:14:13
  Give Molly a glimmer of hope and a sea of sameness.
• 1:14:15
  Sea of sameness and remind me that my podcast is not like
• 1:14:19
  every other millennial podcast out there.
• 1:14:22
  OK, I need this. I really need this.
• 1:14:25
  Mary, thank you so much for being here.
• 1:14:27
  Oh, thanks for having me. Anywhere that you want to direct
• 1:14:30
  the listeners? Anything you want to shout out?
• 1:14:32
  Oh, like to another movie? Or I mean, sure, yeah.
• 1:14:38
  I mean, I'll go ahead and say watch the pit, OK?
• 1:14:42
  But I know nobody's been saying. It what I'm about to shout out
• 1:14:45
  is going to be way more low brow than that.
• 1:14:48
  I'm going to shout out Ice Princess.
• 1:14:50
  I love, love that. I haven't seen it in a long
• 1:14:52
  time, but I am going to watch it tonight after this with my
• 1:14:56
  friends. Been dying to watch it and I'm
• 1:14:58
  like wow, that can be a whole other conversation.
• 1:15:01
  Probably incredible. Was that a Disney Channel or a
• 1:15:04
  Channel movie? Or no, it was Disney, but not a
• 1:15:08
  not a calm. OK, I believe.
• 1:15:11
  OK, gotcha. So not the last great one.
• 1:15:13
  No, but but a great one, a great one, a great one nonetheless.
• 1:15:19
  Well, everybody, thank you so much for being here.
• 1:15:21
  Mary, thank you for being here and I hope that you've all
• 1:15:25
  enjoyed going back through the Disney Channel Original Movies.
• 1:15:30
  There's if you or if you're new here, go back through the last
• 1:15:34
  few episodes. We've also got a playlist on the
• 1:15:36
  YouTube channel of Disney Channel Original Movies.
• 1:15:39
  So, so please enjoy and go watch all of them.
• 1:15:44
  OK? All right, love you.
• 1:15:46
  It's your homework.