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SHOCK CLAIM: Acclaimed surgeon, repulsive teen girl 'WEAPONIZE COVID19?' · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: crime in the time of coronavirus. At a time when
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  Speaker 1: we expect each other to pull together, pitch in to
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  Speaker 1: get through the crisis gripping not only our country but
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  Speaker 1: our world, seemingly, it's the time when for many people
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  Speaker 1: it brings out the worst in US. Corona virus crimes.
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  Speaker 1: I Meancy Grace. This is crime Stories. Thank you for
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  Speaker 1: being with us. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Let's just
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  Speaker 1: kick it off with a woman who attacks a Walmart cashier?
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  Speaker 1: Why is everything happening at Walmart? Take a listen to
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  Speaker 1: our friends at Daily Mail listener. Wow, Wow, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: have yet from Figin. I'm all you use this to
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  Speaker 1: the backroom manager. It's called please get your flam out,
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  Speaker 1: because that's where you're getting the fat out and the
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  Speaker 1: fat holds the toxins at viruss. You think I'm not
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  Speaker 1: just having fun being a stupid blonde. I just decided
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  Speaker 1: that I just wanted to be born to be a
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  Speaker 1: stupid blond. Yeah, like like five on Wow at Walmart,
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  Speaker 1: in front of all the employees, in front of children,
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  Speaker 1: showing them how not to act with me an all
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  Speaker 1: star panel. What may have been coughing three months ago
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  Speaker 1: can now be considered an aggravated assault. That's a felony
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  Speaker 1: with me. Percy Pitzer forty years correctional management expertise, founder
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  Speaker 1: of Creative Corrections Ashe Wilcott, judge and trial lawyer, anchor
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  Speaker 1: Court TV. You can find her at Ashley Wilcott dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Cortezi, former special agent with the FBI, Doctor Chris Sperry,
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  Speaker 1: chief Medical Examiner, State of Georgia, former and now renowned
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  Speaker 1: medical examiner and expert New York psychologist, joining us from Manhattan.
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  Speaker 1: You can find her at Karen Stark dot com. But
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  Speaker 1: first to crime online dot com investigative reporter Nicole Parton. Nicole,
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  Speaker 1: thank you so much for being with us. Did you
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  Speaker 1: hear the chaos and the drama that called? Who was
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  Speaker 1: that screaming out? I wanted to grow up to be
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  Speaker 1: a dumb blonde? Somebody, oh, excuse me, a stupid blonde,
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  Speaker 1: and someone else saying, get your flegm out? Never heard
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  Speaker 1: that one before? What happened, Nicole? Yeah, Nancy, this is
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  Speaker 1: a very very crazy story. The lady that you can
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  Speaker 1: hear ranting about not wanting to grow up to be
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  Speaker 1: a blind is indeed a stupid blond. Go ahead, a
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  Speaker 1: stupid blind. She finishes her shopping, she's checking out of
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  Speaker 1: Lamart and apparently she felt she was being overcharged for
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  Speaker 1: some items, so she begins to verbally attacks the cashier.
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  Speaker 1: The manager comes over to try to calm things down,
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  Speaker 1: resolve the issue, and that is when this lady goes
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  Speaker 1: into a rant, complete meltdown. Shoppers pull out their phones.
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  Speaker 1: They begin to film this. She begins to spit on
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  Speaker 1: the manager and begins to go into this complete, complete
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  Speaker 1: belligerent attack about the coronavirus, coughing, spitting everything. There's something
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  Speaker 1: about it. Let me go to Jeff Cortes, former special
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  Speaker 1: Agent FBI. Jeff, the fact that she spit on the cashier,
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  Speaker 1: that is a whole another level of disrespect. Yeah. Absolutely, Nancy.
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  Speaker 1: I mean to your point with the law enforcement, if
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  Speaker 1: you want to fight with me, let's fight. This is
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  Speaker 1: part of the job. You spit on me, and now
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  Speaker 1: you are really showing lack of respect, not to me,
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  Speaker 1: but to everybody who wears this uniform. And I take
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  Speaker 1: that far more personal. I'm telling you. I byge Nicole
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  Speaker 1: parton Crime Online dot Com Investigative Reporter, where we have
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  Speaker 1: this and all other breaking crime and justice news. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the woman thought she's being overcharged. She gets escorted out
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  Speaker 1: of the store after police was called. Was she arrested.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know that at this point, but we do
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  Speaker 1: know that when the police showed up suddenly, she was
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  Speaker 1: very calm as they escorted her out of the store. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: let me ask you this to Karen Starts, psychologist joining
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  Speaker 1: us from New York. She suddenly got calm as soon
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  Speaker 1: as the cops show up. What does that tell you
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  Speaker 1: about her about of anger, Well, it tells me that
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  Speaker 1: her bout was for show. Nancy Dad. She was all
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  Speaker 1: upset and carrying on because she would get attention. People
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  Speaker 1: were noticing, and all of a sudden, the cups show
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  Speaker 1: up and she decides that she doesn't have to put
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  Speaker 1: on this display anymore, all for show. The reality is
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  Speaker 1: joining me is the former chief medical examiner for the
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  Speaker 1: State of Georgia. I put him on the stand many
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  Speaker 1: a time, doctor Chris Sperry. Doctor Sperry questioned you regarding coronavirus,
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  Speaker 1: I just can't imagine what could be worse if you
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  Speaker 1: are COVID nineteen positive spinning in somebody's face. Well, you're
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  Speaker 1: absolutely right. I mean this honestly harkens back to the
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  Speaker 1: early days of the AIDS epidemic, when identical situations occurred
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  Speaker 1: that people that were mayor may not have been HIV positive.
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  Speaker 1: But we're still you know, spitting on police who are
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  Speaker 1: trying to arrest them, or spitting on others that they
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  Speaker 1: you know, that they're angry at and the fact that
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  Speaker 1: the coronavirus, as we know as much as we know
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  Speaker 1: about it, we definitely know it's transmitted from person to
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  Speaker 1: person by respiratory droplets, you know, by the fluid and
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  Speaker 1: that comes out of your mouth and your lungs. That
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  Speaker 1: is a it's not a small thing. Um. Realistically, that
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  Speaker 1: could be the coronavirus could be easily transmitted to another
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  Speaker 1: person and unfortunately could end up being a death sentence
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  Speaker 1: because you know it is it is lethal to older
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  Speaker 1: people and people with heart and lung diseases, others, different
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  Speaker 1: types of problems, and that the at the least will
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  Speaker 1: make someone someone very sick. So I you know, this
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  Speaker 1: is a serious threat and I think should be addressed
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  Speaker 1: appropriately because it's not only a threat, it reads fear
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  Speaker 1: among the person, the people around there, people getting spit on.
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  Speaker 1: It's just it's a very horrible way because it conjures
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  Speaker 1: up a very very bad outcome. Really, it really does,
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  Speaker 1: doctor Sperry. And the reality is it's called weaponizing COVID nineteen,
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  Speaker 1: weaponizing using the virus as a weapon. You've all heard
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  Speaker 1: of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, like a knife
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  Speaker 1: or a gun. Well, a deadly weapon can be a car,
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  Speaker 1: it can be a rock, It can be when you're
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  Speaker 1: HIV positive and you intentionally infect or COVID nineteen. Time
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  Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, we are talking about coronavirus crimes.
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  Speaker 1: I want you to take a listen now to our
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  Speaker 1: friends at NBC DFW five. This is Sophia Bisdel. It's
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  Speaker 1: a video that's circling around social media and Carrolton Police
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  Speaker 1: aren't taking it lightly. Eighteen year old Loria married Diaga
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  Speaker 1: is accused of making a terroristic threat. Carrolton Police allegs
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  Speaker 1: she claims to have COVID nineteen and a snapchat video
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  Speaker 1: which shows her getting tested for the disease. In the recording,
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  Speaker 1: you hear nurse saying that she has to contact health
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  Speaker 1: officials about giving the test. Afterwards, the eighteen year old
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  Speaker 1: claims she was out of Walmart spreading the virus according
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  Speaker 1: to the video. Carrolton Police say they have no confirmation
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  Speaker 1: that Matta Diaga actually has COVID nineteen or if she's
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  Speaker 1: a threat to public health, but they are taking the
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  Speaker 1: social media posts very seriously and that's why they're currently
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  Speaker 1: looking for her. The police department says, even if this
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  Speaker 1: turns out to be a prank, they say, there's nothing
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  Speaker 1: a joke about when it comes to COVID nineteen, and
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  Speaker 1: that is why they are taking this very seriously. Apparently
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  Speaker 1: an eighteen year old girl one of my police in Carrollton, Texas.
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  Speaker 1: She posts a video on Snapchat claiming she's infected with
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  Speaker 1: coronavirus and then says, I will shorten your life. Take
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  Speaker 1: a listen to our friends at Fox seven. This is
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  Speaker 1: Austin reporter Alex Boyer Carrollton police putting a residence picture
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  Speaker 1: on blast after investigators say she made a terroristic threat
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  Speaker 1: on social media. They say that's eighteen year old Lorraine
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  Speaker 1: Mada Diaga. Over the weekend, police say Mata Diaga posted
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  Speaker 1: several Snapchat videos saying she had tested positive for COVID nineteen.
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  Speaker 1: Mada Diaga said she intended to spread the virus's coronavirus
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  Speaker 1: over Carrollton. Police don't know if she's indeed positive, her
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  Speaker 1: whereabouts unknown right now. The priority is finding her and
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  Speaker 1: getting her in custody and a whole lot of questions
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  Speaker 1: to answer after that. Not only are local police looking
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  Speaker 1: for her, the FBI is in on it. Take a
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  Speaker 1: listen to our friends, Alex Boyer Fox seven. Carrolton Police
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  Speaker 1: spokeswoman Joline DeVito says the FBI Dallas Field office is
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  Speaker 1: working in conjunction with Carrolton PD, offering detectives any resources
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  Speaker 1: they may need in this criminal investigation. This young woman's actions,
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  Speaker 1: we just we're not going to tolerate it. In mid March,
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  Speaker 1: a DPS employee who worked at the Carrollton Driver's License
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  Speaker 1: office claimed they tested positive for the coronavirus. The location
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  Speaker 1: was shut down. DPS said. An investigation later determined the
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  Speaker 1: employee lied. They were disciplined for providing false information. DPS
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  Speaker 1: did not provide additional details. Joline DeVito says, whether or
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  Speaker 1: not Manta Diaga turns out to be positive for COVID nineteen,
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  Speaker 1: she's already committed a third degree felony making a terroristic threat. Specifically,
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  Speaker 1: in the law, it's subsection five place the public or
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  Speaker 1: substantial group of the public in fear of serious bodily injury.
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  Speaker 1: To Nicole Parton, joining us Crime online dot Com investigatory
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  Speaker 1: reporter Nicole, what's the latest on this brat? I'm just
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  Speaker 1: learning Nancy that she has been arrested. Local authorities did
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  Speaker 1: find her and she has been arrested, and she is
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  Speaker 1: now looking at charges of making a terroristic threat. What
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  Speaker 1: a brat, But the reality is, actually will Coat judge
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  Speaker 1: and trial lawyer, court TV anchor, it's more than being
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  Speaker 1: a brat. Now, a terroristic threat is a serious felony.
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  Speaker 1: It's not just idle chat like you're Jackie I just
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  Speaker 1: want to kill him. No, it's not that. It's when
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  Speaker 1: you make another overt at such as posting a video,
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  Speaker 1: such as sending an email or a threatening phone call
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  Speaker 1: or text that puts your talk. You're boasting your big
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  Speaker 1: talk into another realm because you're actually acting on it.
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  Speaker 1: And another comparison, Ashley's when you go into a bank
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  Speaker 1: with a fake gun. That's still on robbery robbery because
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  Speaker 1: it's robbery with a gun or replica of a gun,
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  Speaker 1: because it causes the same fear. Why is this a
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  Speaker 1: terroristic threat Ashley Wilcott, Well, first of all, it's idiotic
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  Speaker 1: behavior by an eighteen year old, but it rises to
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  Speaker 1: the level of a crime because she was clear in
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  Speaker 1: her intent. He specifically said this is what I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to do, So the intent was there. The threat was
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  Speaker 1: there to cause the serious bodily harm, so it is
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  Speaker 1: clearly a terroristic threat. Now the good news is from
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  Speaker 1: my perspective, is that yes, she is being investigated and
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  Speaker 1: prosecuted for the crime because Nancy. The reality is, not
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  Speaker 1: only is it necessary to prosecute to punish her, but
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  Speaker 1: also to discourage others from engaging in this idiotic behavior
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  Speaker 1: that amounts to a crime. Let me understand something, Nicole
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  Speaker 1: Parton Crime Online investigative reporter Lorraine Mariaga was one of
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  Speaker 1: my police. She's just been arrested because she posted a
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  Speaker 1: snapchat video of herself claiming to be coronavirus positive and
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  Speaker 1: claiming to deliberately spread the deadly virus. Is that correct?
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  Speaker 1: Do I understand what she did? That's correct? Even in
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  Speaker 1: one of her snapchat posts, she says, if you want
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  Speaker 1: the virus, come see me and I'll cough all over you.
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  Speaker 1: She posts another snapchat where she's shopping in a store
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  Speaker 1: and she's coughing out loud, spreading the droplets, spreading the germ, coughing, laughing,
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  Speaker 1: making a big joke of it. I'll give everyone the virus,
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  Speaker 1: she says in her snapchat post. You know to Karen started,
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  Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't get it at all.
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  Speaker 1: People are dropping dead at this moment. They are in
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  Speaker 1: hospitals all across our country, gasping for breath and dying.
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  Speaker 1: It just hurt me so much. Yesterday I read about
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  Speaker 1: a story where a son his mother was holding his
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  Speaker 1: head in her lap and he goes, Mom, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: gonna make it. I don't think i'm gonna make it.
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  Speaker 1: And he dies right there, right there in his mother's hands.
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  Speaker 1: And now this, well, Nancy, when you think about things
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  Speaker 1: that we've talked about, where groups of kids have been
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  Speaker 1: gathering and in some places still not paying attention to
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  Speaker 1: social distancing, you could see that they don't really get
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  Speaker 1: how serious this is until it's something in front of them.
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  Speaker 1: They see that their own relatives are getting sick or dying.
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  Speaker 1: They just believe that they have eternal life. It's not
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  Speaker 1: quite real to them. So here's a girl who's very
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  Speaker 1: troubled and decides that, yeah, I'm gonna just broadcast that
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this type of people. Hold on, I'm
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  Speaker 1: getting an update. Hold on a second, you're telling me Lorraine.
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  Speaker 1: Lorraine Madiaga has now gotten out on bonden, and I
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  Speaker 1: also want to find out about the first woman. That's
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  Speaker 1: what I'm trying to find out that cost and sneeze,
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  Speaker 1: Oh just escorted out of Walmart. That is an Aga
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  Speaker 1: Sault right there, the woman that coughed and sneezed on
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  Speaker 1: the Walmart cashier, Madiaga. Karen Stark has now made a
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  Speaker 1: bond Now, we don't know if she's in fact infected,
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  Speaker 1: But what more do we know about it, Nicole Parton.
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  Speaker 1: We do know that she posted a video where she
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  Speaker 1: appeared to be in line taking a test for the
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  Speaker 1: COVID nineteen virus in one of these remote locations where
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  Speaker 1: you drive through and take the test, and you can
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  Speaker 1: hear medical worker on the video telling her to now
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  Speaker 1: go home and wait for the results of the tests. So,
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  Speaker 1: while we don't know if she tested positive, we do
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  Speaker 1: know that at some point she must have had the
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  Speaker 1: symptoms enough for a medical doctor to feel that she
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  Speaker 1: needed to be tested. So there's the snapchat she posts herself,
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  Speaker 1: Then she posts herself the video of her going through
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  Speaker 1: a drive through coronavirus test site. Then there's video of
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  Speaker 1: her at Walmart coughing, threatening to infect everyone. That's a
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  Speaker 1: terroristic threat. We know that she has made bond. This
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  Speaker 1: is just the tip of the iceberg. We're still waiting
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  Speaker 1: to find out if she's COVID nineteen positive crime stories
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  Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace guys coronavirus crimes. Why is this happening
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  Speaker 1: at such a horrible time in our country's history. Take
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  Speaker 1: a listen to this disturbing allegations. A physician here at
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  Speaker 1: Yukon Health accused of intentionally coughing on other workers during
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  Speaker 1: this coronavirus pandemic. Yukon Police issued a misdemeanor breach of
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  Speaker 1: peace summons yesterday morning for doctor Corey Edgar. They say
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  Speaker 1: witnesses saw him intentionally coughing on two medical employees at
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  Speaker 1: the health center in close proximity, and that the witnesses
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  Speaker 1: and medical workers believed he was purposely disregarding space and
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  Speaker 1: safety concerns involving the coronavirus. We are learning that a
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  Speaker 1: doctor did a thing like this to Nicole Parton Crime
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  Speaker 1: Online dot Com investigative reporter, I've got to hear this.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me about the doctor. This Connecticut doctor was a risk, said,
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  Speaker 1: because he was deliberately coughing on coworkers. Apparently ignoring social distancing,
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  Speaker 1: threatening his co workers, making light of the situation, and
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  Speaker 1: in a joking manner coughing on coworkers as if it
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  Speaker 1: were no big deal too, Ashley Willcott, Judge and Trial
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  Speaker 1: while your anchor at Court TV, how many times have
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  Speaker 1: you seen an aggravated assault where the person that says, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I was joking, Who cares you know whether you're joking
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  Speaker 1: or not? As no defense, as you well know, because
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  Speaker 1: if you attempt to cause serious bodily harm, which he
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  Speaker 1: is by coughing during the coronavirus and with disregard for
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  Speaker 1: human life, that's agg assault. So it doesn't matter if
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  Speaker 1: you say, oh, I didn't mean to oh I was joking,
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  Speaker 1: Oh it was no big deal. Those are not defenses
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  Speaker 1: to the crime you've committed. It's doctor Corey Edgar, an
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  Speaker 1: assistant professor of orthopedic surgery at Yukon Help. He was
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  Speaker 1: arrested and charged with breach of peace. Back to you,
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  Speaker 1: ash what is breach of peace? Now? This is for
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  Speaker 1: allegedly coughing on two co workers at the health center,
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  Speaker 1: very close to them, in close proximity, and the witnesses
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  Speaker 1: say that they believe he was intentionally disregarding space and
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  Speaker 1: safety concerns. Right now, there are thousands and thousands of
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  Speaker 1: coronavirus cases in our country. And while he says he's joking,
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  Speaker 1: what about it, Ashley? Yeah, So back with the breach
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  Speaker 1: of pieces, the fact that he disregarded and was doing that.
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  Speaker 1: And so every state, as you well known, Nancy, has
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  Speaker 1: different charges for different crimes, but that one amounts to
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  Speaker 1: the fact he was completely disregarding and was coughing and
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  Speaker 1: doing that action. That's the breach of peace. Now, it
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  Speaker 1: may not amount to an abbreviated assault because it may
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  Speaker 1: be that there was no intent. They could prove that
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  Speaker 1: he was trying to cause the serious bodily harm, but
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  Speaker 1: it's still a crime. And the thing I want to
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  Speaker 1: say is that to me, doctor has even a higher
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  Speaker 1: standard right than a naive eighteen year old, for instance,
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  Speaker 1: because he knows better, he knows the risks, he knows
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  Speaker 1: what's going on. He knows better, and you can't even
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  Speaker 1: do this to joke. It's not okay. We're talking about
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  Speaker 1: a Connecticut doctor who allegedly coughed on coworkers. And again,
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  Speaker 1: Ashi Will, this sounds like a misdemeanor or a local ordinance.
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  Speaker 1: What exactly is breach of peace? Well, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, I don't know exactly what it
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  Speaker 1: is in this state, but I can tell you in
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  Speaker 1: just a moment, because the reality is it's disturbing the peace.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it's called in a lot of states, right
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  Speaker 1: when you do anything to disturb the peace. And what
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  Speaker 1: this means Sancy is, think about it. Even if he's joking,
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  Speaker 1: when he says, oh, I'm going to do this, it
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  Speaker 1: causes a reaction and all the medical professionals and all
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  Speaker 1: the people around them, it causes fear and it can
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  Speaker 1: cause action by them. So it can go from thinking
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  Speaker 1: ash breach of peace. For instance, if somebody shoots a
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  Speaker 1: gun in the air, that's not only discharging a weapon
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  Speaker 1: within city limits, it's also a breach of peace. If
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  Speaker 1: you have a party that's too loud and it disturbs
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  Speaker 1: all the nature neighbors, you can be charged with breach
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  Speaker 1: of peace. Let's take a listen now to our friend
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Elliott Polakoff, WFSB news reporter, talking with a spokeswoman from
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: mukon health. She has said that doctor Kreyeger he is
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: not COVID nineteen positive and he is considered to be
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: an excellent physical health, but the question remains, why did
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: this happen? The answer may have something to do with
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: mental health. You know, we talk about the virus being unseen,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: but stresses as well, and as Middletown based clinical psychologist
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: doctor Robert Reynolds explains, it can happen to anyone, especially
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: healthcare professionals. In the middle of the coronavirus pandemic. I
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: think that there are going to be more and more
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: people who are struggling with the psychological impacts, and the
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: ones on the front line right now are healthcare providers
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: on Health and Farmington Sports Medicine. Doctor Corey Edgar faces
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: an uncertain future after being arrested on Thursday morning for
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: breach of peace after intentionally coughing onto other medical employees.
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  Speaker 1: While the hospital says those co workers are not considered
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: at risk because the doctor is not COVID nineteen positive,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: this pandemic is creating stress that is causing another troubling
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  Speaker 1: new development. I think that we're going to start to
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: see more of the psychological aspects of the emotional reactions
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: to all of this. That's really going to start overwhelming
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: our mental health systems joining me right now. Psychologists out
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: of Manhattan DODG Karen Start Karen explain what they just said.
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  Speaker 1: What they're saying is that this is having a huge
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: impact on people emotionally, which we know nanswers, and so
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: they're suggesting that we're going to see more of this,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: which doesn't surprise me. People who react to this kind
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: of pressure, especially people in the front line, and they're
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: not making sound judgment or they are that angry where
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: they're spreading. It's really creates mass destruction as we know.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: So it's a powerful, powerful weapon, and someone who has
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: this can use it without going out and buying a
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: gun or having a knife. What they're actually doing is
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: taking their distress and spreading it. To doctor Chris Sperry,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: the former medical examiner for the entire state Georgia. Doctor Sperry,
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  Speaker 1: when you are arrested as a doctor like this in
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: this scenario, is he going to lose his license and
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: not be able to practice anymore? What can he expect? Well, you, actually,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: you are stealing the thoughts from my mind. Just simply
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: the fact that he's arrested makes mandates that he must
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: report that to the state Medical Board. Every state in
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: the country has that provision as one of the requirements
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: for being a doctor. If you are arrested or anything,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: you have to report that to the medical board yourself. Now,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: the likelihood is pretty high that his actions would cause others,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: you know, superiors, hospital administrators, I mean, even the people involved.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: I mean they could also report it to the state
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: medical board. But all of those things put together means
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: that there's a really high likelihood he could get his
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: license suspended or frankly, just get it revoked, because that
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: type of intentionally dangerous and potentially life threatening action by
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: someone as highly trained as a physician just is not
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  Speaker 1: acceptable and can't be waved it waved away, can't be
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: shoved under the rug. He's going to have more problems
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: out of this than I think what he realized at
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: the moment when he did this behavior. Guys, typically we
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: report on crimes against the Jewish population, who has been
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: plagued with hate crimes and anti semitism for centuries. But
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: in an odd reversal, a Muslim New York firefighter has
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: now contracted coronavirus just days after a Jewish team deliberately
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: sneezes in his face. Okay too, Nicole parton what happened?
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: So apparently, Nancy, three teams were out of their targeted
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: this firefighter. They saw him out, they began to taunt
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: him and say, are you afraid of the virus? Do
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: you have the virus? Are you afraid of the virus?
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: The firefighter tried to distance himself from the teams, but
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: they continued to get closer and closer. Again, he distanced himself,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: they got closer, taunting him. What would happen if you
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: got the virus? Are you afraid of the virus? At
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: this point, one of the teams got physically close enough
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: to the firefighter and intentionally sneezed on him and then
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: ran away. What's happened to the teams, Nicole? Have they
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: been charged? We don't know that they've been charged because
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: there is no video evidence of what took place, and
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: to my knowledge, they have not been charged with anything.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace distress, the anger and the
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: confusion now caused by Corona virus is leading to a
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: spate of crimes. But why take a listen and a
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: heart breaking story to Jason Hargrove, a Detroit bus driver.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: This coronavirus is for real and we all hear as
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: public workers doing our job, trying to make an honest living,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: to take care of our families. But for you to
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: get on the bus and stand on the bus and
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: cough several times without covering up your mouth, and you
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: know that we're in the middle of a pandemic. That
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: that that lets me know that some folks don't care utterly,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: don't give a excuse my language, but that's how I
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: feel right about now. For a grown person and her
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: late fifties, early sixties to stand on the bus and
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: cough four and five times without covering up your mouth,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: and you know we're in the midst of a mother
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: crisis with this coronavirus. I am the off I'm just
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: so sad to report mister Hargrove has passed away. He
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: passed away. He died from coronavirus. To Nicole, pardon what
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: happened with mister Hargrave. He makes this video, Nancy, and
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: in the video he tells the story of exactly what happened.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: A lady gets on the bus and she coughs while
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: refusing to cover her mouth. In one portion of his video,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: it's heartbreaking. He explains that he is a father, a husband,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: and that he's driving that bus to provide for his family.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: But this lady, apparently infected with the virus cough refuses
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: to follow social distancing, refuses to take precautions. We can't
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: know if he contracted COVID nineteen from her, but we
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: do know sadly that he did contract a virus and
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: he passed away. Nicole. Did the woman make any indication
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: that she was doing it on purpose or that she
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: thought she had COVID nineteen. She did not make any
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: remarks to him in that manner, but he did ask
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: her to please cover your mouth, please take precautions. We're
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: in the midst of a crisis. There's a pandemic. People
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: are dying. Can you please be careful, and she refused
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: to listen to him. You know, Jeff Cortesi, former special
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: agent with the FBI, cops, bus drivers, prosecutors, judges, hospital workers, Everybody,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: as a nature of their job, is out there on
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: the front lines, and unless they want to lose their
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: job equit working, they have to be there. It's just
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: so unfair that this bus driver begged the woman to
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: quit coughing on him, she wouldn't stop. Now he has
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: coronavirus and he passed away. Yeah, I mean, you know,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: there are only a handful of people, it seems, that
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: are even out there able to work, and not just
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: able to work, but are working so that others can
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: can live. As you mentioned, doctor's law enforcement, even public transportation.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: It's unconscionable to think that, you know, those who are
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: out there focusing on more important things, right, saving lives,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: have to look over their shoulder and try to account
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: for those who are just completely discrediting this whole thing
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: and ignoring it and disregarding the help them moping of others,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: and the reality is they're trapped there that they can't
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: get away. This bus driver, unless he wants to lose
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: his livelihood and not be able to support his children,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: has to keep driving that bus and put up with
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: this woman. And now he has passed away. Nicole, what
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: can you tell me about Anthony Ponzy? The twenty one
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: year old man Anthony Ponzy was arrested after he was
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: going the wrong way on the street crashed into another car.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Police of course got on the scene began to arrest him,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: and that's when he was very aggressive speech, was slurred,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: foaming at the mouth, and he allegedly attacks the police
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: officer and begins again to try to read this virus,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: coughing on them, spitting on them, and attacking the officers.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: We're talking about a twenty one year old Chicago man
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: arrested for coughing in Chicago CoP's face, claiming yet coronavirus
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: after he gets into a car crash at twenty one
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: years old. You know, Karen Stark, A lot of people
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: will say, like somebody said earlier, I think it was you,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Ashley Walcott. The person was eighteen. I did call her
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: a brat, but I want her treat it as an adult.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: At twenty one, Karen start, you know better, absolutely, Nancy,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: at twenty one. I mean it's still you're younger, but
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: you do know better. And I think in this, for instance,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: this is what's actually a purposeful act that he was
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: really angry. You're talking. I mean, we have people out
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: there who are killers, right, who don't have a conscience,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: and here is somebody who actually used the fact that
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: he might be sick as a weapon against the police.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: This was an early morning call, around eight o'clock in
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: the morning. Police say, Ponsy drove his great jeep the
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: wrong way and collided into another car, exited his vehicle,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: and allegedly attacked the other driver. That's who we're dealing with.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, the mindset of someone like this and then
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: to taunt the cops. I mean, Bratt fits him perfectly.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: But he is much old, much older than a kid.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: He knows better, and I'm wondering, bottom line, what the
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: charges against him will be. What do you make of it,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Nicole part and any word on that. We don't have
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: word of the charges, but of course we do know
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: that he was arrested. To you asked you will call
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: what charges do you anticipate? Well, you know, you've got
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: all kinds of potential charges in this. You've got assault.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: In my opinion, you've got the aggravated assault, because then
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: again you're attempting, by the threats you're making and attacking
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: and what you're doing, you're attempting, in my opinion, to
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: cause serious bodily harm without regard for human life. Guys,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: a sixty five year old man has just been tackled
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: by other shoppers. I want you to take a listen
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: to our friends at Boston wb Z four NIS reporter
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Jim Smith, well, a bizarre story here at this stopping
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: shopping Kingston, and it really created anxious moments for customers
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: and workers. The wild scene erupted just before noon Saturday
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: in front of shocked shoppers this cell phone video showing
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: two or three men subduing another man. Kingston Police were
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: told a sixty five year old man from Duxbury was
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: coughing and spitting and became confrontational with staff and witnesses.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: The man who took this video posted that the man
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: was coughing and spitting on the produce, but the police
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: news release doesn't say what he was targeting. Hours later,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: other shoppers could only shake their collective heads. Odd behavior
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: with people maybe who have a that has other problems,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: but something like that should not occur a period that
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: somebody would even think to do that. It's just it
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: blows my mind right now, especially with what's going on,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: and everybody should be binding together and be respectful of
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: each other and try to stop the spread of this
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: awful thing that's going on right now. Bottom line, wash
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: your produce to doctor Chris Sperry joining us, the former
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: chief medical examiner for the entire state of Georgia, Doctor Sperry,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: speak to me about I mean, you're the MD. I'm
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: just a JD. What's the likelihood that COVID nineteen could
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: be spread from produce that somebody coughed or spin on
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: or sneezed on at the grocery store if they're COVID
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: nineteen positive and you get that produce at home, well,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: likelihood really is small. But for produce especially, and this,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is one of the things many of
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: us started doing years ago. It is really proper, and
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: it's almost required that if you buy produce at a store,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: yet you don't know who has touched it, you don't
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: know where it's been, and it's routine to wash your produce, uh,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: you know, underwater, and you know, clean it before you
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: put in the fridge. So with soap, Chris, Oh, with soap? No,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: I mean otherwise, especially with lettuce, you'd end up with
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: soapy tasting lettuce. Okay, wait a minute, how about washing
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: the out I always take the outside leaves off the lettuce, Okay,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: just the outside, and then I washed the rest of you.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking about an apple. Don't you wash that with soap?
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: You don't really need to because the virus the what
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: you go ahead and eat all the pesticide and all
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: the COVID nineteen doctor Chris Berry. But I'm washing mine
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: with hand soap, rinsing it and drawing it. That work.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: I'm not washing any of art. I mean we were
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: our produce regularly, just that we buy, but you know boxes,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: regular food things like that that uh you know, we don't.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: We don't wipe that down. Okay, Barry, you have coffee,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: I'll have tea. I'm not going to tell somebody not
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: to do it, because if it makes them feel better
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: than that's great. But um, going overboard is not. It's
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: taking something that's almost impossible, a risk that is almost impossible,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: and uh, you know who knows how you're changing it?
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: So well, I'm glad to hear that. But I'm going
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: to continue watching with So guys, the COVID nineteen crimes
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: continue on. We're bringing them to you to make you
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: aware of them so you can avoid situations just like this.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Keep the faith. Nancy Grace Crime Story signing off, Goodbye
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: friend