Latest / The Magic Guys / Gig stories from our listeners! #223
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- 0:00Guys, they do magic. They are the Magic Guys.
- 0:08Ladies and gentlemen, let me start that again. Ladies and gentlemen,
- 0:13boys and girls, welcome to the Magic Guys.
- 0:16I'm Josh Norbedo, but to my left we have... I'm Nick Kay, and below me is the effervescent...
- 0:24Hey, I'm Doug Conn, and self-working magic is my kryptonite. What's happening?
- 0:33Nice. Nice. Self-working magic is... I did it wrong. Is it a problem?
- 0:38Give me a pass. Give me a side steal.
- 0:41I'm good. Give me a button to push. I'll screw it up every time.
- 0:45Yeah. Well, technology is bad. I hate relying on tech, like,
- 0:50you know, an electronic gimmick or something to work. That'll mess me up most times.
- 0:57Yeah look i think that electronics
- 1:00should be more like an icing on the cake as opposed to the entire
- 1:03method like for me one of the most terrifying routines is a color match i mean
- 1:08when that doesn't work totally there is no there is no safety net no parachute
- 1:13you just plow into the earth and it is over and that's what happens when you
- 1:18perform live like this show Magic Guys Live.
- 1:21Yeah, like us right now. Like my laptop crashing last week and luckily Nick
- 1:27and Doug saved the day and ended the episode.
- 1:29So if you were listening to that on Spotify and were like, why did that end
- 1:34so abruptly? That's why.
- 1:36It's because it's live and the audio is gone. But because we do it live,
- 1:40we have friends live watching in the chat. I can see we've got Scott Link,
- 1:47Thomas Conger, Dragoteer, Gary Davis.
- 1:51These are the OGs. Scotty P.
- 1:54We go back even further OG than that. We also got Caden. Look,
- 1:58this is great. Everyone's showing up. Adonis.
- 2:00Ah, I love it. So today I put out a call, a prompt for voice messages,
- 2:06your speak pipes to bring in.
- 2:08Tell us some gig stories. You know, you're out there in the trenches we want
- 2:11to hear how it's going and because also sometimes we're able to like save some
- 2:17of the best stories and relive them through telling them telling them on the pod right because.
- 2:22Oh, shit. Well, they...
- 2:27How did that even happen? It's live. What were you saying about it being live?
- 2:33They started a coup and they took me off the podcast for a second.
- 2:36But we're back. Enough out of you, Josh Nibito. Gone.
- 2:40I'm going to shut up. That's right. So, guys, gig stories is a segment of the
- 2:44show we kind of used to do on a regular basis in which we like to share stories
- 2:47either while performing or just our day-to-day life.
- 2:49And it's been a while since we've done them. And we have basically so many cool stories to tell.
- 2:54And so we put the call out to you guys on our socials going,
- 2:56hey, if you guys have cool gig stories, we want to hear all about it as well.
- 3:00And we have a whole bunch which you guys sent in.
- 3:03Hopefully there's enough time to get through all of them as well as sharing
- 3:06the ones that we've been up to this week.
- 3:08So Josh, should we line up our first speak pipe and gig story?
- 3:12Hell yeah. And can I also just set a prompt for the next weeks?
- 3:16Don't wait until I put a prompt out. Just send us in a speak pipe.
- 3:19We love hearing from you, and you can do that through the link below where you're
- 3:22listening to this, or just go
- 3:24to themagicguysshow.com, and you'll see the button to leave a recording.
- 3:28Our first speak pipe comes from Tim Raymond.
- 3:32Now, I haven't heard the full story, but I've heard the prompt,
- 3:36and I'm excited already.
- 3:39So let's hear what Tim got up to at his gig.
- 3:42So basically, I had a gig at Retirement Village on the weekend.
- 3:47And through email, we'd agreed it would be an hour of roving.
- 3:51So I assumed they would have tables set up and I would just move around between
- 3:56different groups and do some close-up effects with all of the residents.
- 4:01But upon arriving, they had it set up with rows of chairs and a space at the
- 4:07front, and I only had my close-up stuff with me, so I quickly had to figure
- 4:13out how I could make some of that play for a larger audience.
- 4:16So I did that, and then just spent 20 minutes at the end just kind of going
- 4:20from row to row, doing some different close-up stuff.
- 4:24All in all, it did go quite well, just threw me for a bit of a loop,
- 4:29but they said they'd have me back again. So, had a happy ending,
- 4:33albeit a bit of a stressful beginning.
- 4:35All right. Love the podcast, guys.
- 4:38Well, Tim. That was even in his recording. That wasn't me. Yeah.
- 4:43What happens with assumptions, Tim, is that assumptions make an ass out of you and me.
- 4:47And when we assume they're going to be doing things a certain way,
- 4:50it does turn out like that. That's why it's always important that when you ask
- 4:54about the location of it, you say, are you looking for a walk around?
- 5:01Is it going to be table seating?
- 5:03Ask those sorts of questions when you do that next inquiry. I do it all the
- 5:06time because I can't tell you how many times I've rocked up to gigs and they've
- 5:11gone like, oh, no, it's going to be like a seated thing. It's like,
- 5:14okay, well, you don't want roving.
- 5:15You want this. you know so it's like make sure that
- 5:18in the future that you find out all the details with regards
- 5:21locations i can't tell you how many times people have gone oh i
- 5:23got this gig yeah it's like 600 bucks blah blah can you do it for me i i can't
- 5:28do it i'm like sure and they go oh it's three hours out of town i'm like the
- 5:31fuck yeah it happens it's yeah yeah it's earlier on in your career you know
- 5:37yeah that's that's how you learn later i actually i have a relatable gig story a Vegas gig story.
- 5:43For me, I was going to work as a Las Vegas magic open mic.
- 5:49And my goal here was to film a performance for a Sponge Bunny release,
- 5:55which we had with Trick Supply.
- 5:56This was about two months ago or a month ago.
- 5:59So I made an agreement with the producer. They do a close-up set before the
- 6:03stage set, which is open mic, but the close-up set is formal.
- 6:07And that's what we agreed that I would be working and filming the Sponge Bunnies.
- 6:11Well, first of all, I get to the gig and realize I forgot the Sponge Bunnies at the house.
- 6:16So I send the wife back to get the purpose of being at this venue.
- 6:22Of course, see all the magic is fun.
- 6:24But then I get there and the guy's like, oh no, man, it's not close up.
- 6:28That's just for this guy. He's doing 30 minutes.
- 6:30You're going to need to put your name in the hat and be on stage.
- 6:34So boy, talk about flipping the tables. And especially when I'd planned to do
- 6:38a professional shoot of this product.
- 6:41But yeah, you learn as time goes on how to adapt your close-up routines to play bigger, right?
- 6:47So as opposed to, you know, having that formal close-up stage with everyone
- 6:52close, I brought a committee on stage with me and we performed our close-up
- 6:57magic for them and let the audience, you know, enjoy the magic.
- 7:01And it turned out pretty good, you know? We had some great audience reactions
- 7:05and everything worked out, but yeah. Yeah.
- 7:08And that's what I want to commend Tim for as well. The fact that you were able
- 7:11to pivot and work through that, that's the workings of a pro, man.
- 7:16And the fact that you were able to do that on the fly, you got to give yourself
- 7:19a pat on the back, brother, man.
- 7:21Take a lesson from this, everyone listening. If you do close up magic,
- 7:24think about at least a couple of routines that you can make play bigger than you generally do.
- 7:30If you're not sure how to go about that, let me recommend Stage by Stage by John Graham.
- 7:35This is one of my favorite books of the last decade he explains the
- 7:38process quite clearly there's some other
- 7:40good ones but uh yeah try and think how you can make your
- 7:43small tricks play this way if nothing else for when you find yourself in that
- 7:49situation i mean talking about small tricks playing big did you guys watch wilman's
- 7:56new special like we don't have to make an episode about it but wilman put out
- 8:01a magic lover, Netflix special.
- 8:03And it's very much shot like a standup special.
- 8:08And the thing that's most notable is almost all of the magic is super small
- 8:14magic, but just his delivery and writing gets all the laughs from the audience.
- 8:20But it's very much like a camera on him and he's borrowing someone's bill.
- 8:24You know, it's a lot of stuff like that throughout the whole thing.
- 8:27There's no illusions On stage Like.
- 8:31Well, that zip code routine is just verbiage, right?
- 8:34The whole zip code segment, which is a lot, and freaking unbelievable, is just words.
- 8:41And that's the thing. Yeah, when it comes to, like, the good thing about mentalism
- 8:46is that you don't have to be seen on a projector screen or whatever.
- 8:51Like, you can do that on a stage.
- 8:53And so yeah i encourage not that to say
- 8:56you're going to have a camera projecting you on screen at every gig that
- 8:59asks you to randomly get on stage but
- 9:02it's good to think in the way that you
- 9:05don't have to have these massive props if the client says at the very end oh
- 9:09do you mind doing one thing on stage to say goodbye to everyone or whatever
- 9:13these are common things that they'll throw in there you know okay right willman's
- 9:18out there killing it filling up these high-end theaters with this one-man low-tech
- 9:22show let me tell you i think he's not thankful,
- 9:25he's so good for magic he really is yeah yeah
- 9:29yeah yeah yeah that's gonna be good
- 9:32for magic what's the next speak pipe friends all right
- 9:36speak pipe speaking of speak pipe our next one is from adonis who's in the chat
- 9:40shout out the live chat let's go adonis now i gotta bring the volume down because
- 9:46his voice is so deep i love it here we go too low josh too low josh nope.
- 9:55Welcome to magic guys live that's right
- 9:59live on the internet that's that's actually
- 10:02my fault because i had him on mute the whole time so i've
- 10:05been listening to his sweet sweet nectar of a voice that
- 10:08whole time so i'm just gonna reopen up
- 10:12that speak pipe this is what i'm talking about
- 10:14tech okay imagine we're doing this live or
- 10:17something with people watching this to be horrible all right
- 10:20here we go hey guys
- 10:23adonis here a little a story about a gig that i had a couple weeks ago it was
- 10:31a community event i decided to test a couple new routines i've been working
- 10:35on one of them was a half-dye color-changing silk. Two things happened.
- 10:43First, the first transformation, the first color change, I messed up.
- 10:49Let the silk hanging before revealing the whole thing. So.
- 10:56There is more. Why is it not? After that, I'm explaining, I'm using the concept
- 11:02of I'm going to teach the trick.
- 11:04I'm teaching, I said I hide the red handkerchief in the hand and reveal there's
- 11:10nothing on it. It's vanished.
- 11:12Probably 10, 20 seconds later, one of the kids just have the reaction,
- 11:18the realization that the handkerchief was missing.
- 11:21I had to point it out. I basically look at the kid and say, I guess somebody's
- 11:26catching up. Thank you for the opportunity.
- 11:30Kids, huh? Kids, huh? They're the worst type of humans.
- 11:36Those mini humans? Yeah.
- 11:40They're like short guy syndrome, but worse. So he was doing the effect and he
- 11:46did the effect and the kids just didn't register that magic had happened.
- 11:49That's what I'm reading from this.
- 11:51You know what? depending on the age of the kid yeah well you
- 11:54know what it's like for me when it comes to kids the
- 11:57six-year-old brain is is like
- 12:00the perfect age and i
- 12:03think that anything below that can be a bit of a oh that's just how things work
- 12:08you know what i mean like everything's that's the issue right there yeah like
- 12:13everything's magical when you're a kid like you use a remote control whoa doing
- 12:16the tv on without having to get up and push a button you know what i mean like that sort of thing,
- 12:21that's where I feel it can kind of happen so there is a probably a level of
- 12:24conditioning and call and response that could combat that but hey like you made
- 12:29it through Adonis power to you yeah man what about adults like I'm sure we do
- 12:33stuff and every now and then you're like,
- 12:36Just so you know, that is impossible.
- 12:39It reminds me of the Ben Seidman opener, how he does the silk through microphone stand.
- 12:44And he's like, hello, this should not be able to go through this. Let me do it again.
- 12:50It's a funny bit, but in real life that can happen. Well, just further to your
- 12:54point, it says here that she was at least 10.
- 12:56And strangely, I think kids get dumber as they go towards their teens.
- 13:02And not because they are dumb, but because they become apathetic.
- 13:06By nature they get this attitude that like
- 13:09i'm a queen i'm a boss bitch i'm
- 13:12a this or that you know what i mean and it's sort of like what like and
- 13:15and i see it so regularly as i'm performing for for younger girls like it's
- 13:21insane and this happens and i'm just going to share this i know this sounds
- 13:24like really kind of awful but this is purely a report of what i experienced
- 13:28but it's like if i'm having someone choose a playing card if i say red or black
- 13:32no problem if i say let's So they say red.
- 13:35If I say heart or diamond, two options, no problem.
- 13:38I turn to the third person and say, there's 13 values. Choose a value,
- 13:43ace through 10, jack, queen, or king. They go, what?
- 13:48Like if it's too many options, they just go, ugh, and their brain shuts off.
- 13:54It is one of those things that is happening. So when what? When the brain shuts off?
- 13:58I make fun. And then I make it very simple and go, choose a number between one and 13.
- 14:03And they go that's what i do as well just pick a number just you know yeah and
- 14:09so yeah and i can't say many times i've said choosing between 10 and 35 7 10
- 14:13and 35 clever kid let's try it again,
- 14:16You know, like I've, I've, I've had moments like that with, with,
- 14:19with adult, man, adults do it too.
- 14:22Like, especially when you put them on the spot, I'll be like,
- 14:25yeah, I mean, the worst is like, name a number up to 10, 16.
- 14:30Great. Now let's try again where you think about it or like,
- 14:33you know, like it, it's everyone, but definitely the age younger and younger
- 14:39don't play with cars that much.
- 14:42Right. When we're young, I've mentioned this before. i'm sure i like
- 14:45to ask the child how old they are and use that as the number to represent the
- 14:49card if we're doing something like that any trick any card trick that involves
- 14:54a child you can use their age to represent the child themselves have them write
- 14:59on it it's now super uh you know identifiable.
- 15:04Yeah i would say what when um when the pandemic hit
- 15:08and school formals in australia started
- 15:11booking magicians or at least in queensland because they were
- 15:14allowed to have their formal but they couldn't have a dance floor
- 15:17so they booked magicians for almost every formal
- 15:20to fill that time and my
- 15:23god if there is a harder audience than 17 year olds that are dressed up which
- 15:29they've never been dressed up like before and they're trying to impress the
- 15:32date they're with and everything is about them and the whole time the girls
- 15:35and guys are taking selfies of themselves and then you're thrown in there to try and impress them.
- 15:41That, my friends, was the hardest lesson to learn back in 2020.
- 15:46I very quickly realized not a single thing can be about me or skill or watch this.
- 15:52It has to be, let's use your phone. Oh, should I know your pin code?
- 15:57Think of the first person you dated or it had to all purely be about them or
- 16:03you got like zero attention.
- 16:06And that's just what's going to happen when you meet certain audiences.
- 16:10But like, it's the same reason why it's so important to be dynamic because the
- 16:13way you talk to a six-year-old kid is going to be totally different to the way
- 16:16you talk to a 33-year-old person and everything in between.
- 16:20So it's so important to be dynamic in that sense and trying to get the focus
- 16:24of kids nowadays as well.
- 16:26You know what I mean? Like, I can't tell you how many folks are sitting there
- 16:28with whatever sensory overload things, they're chewing stuff.
- 16:32It's, it does become an issue, you know, and finding a way, a medium to connect
- 16:36to them and make sure that there is a communication transpiring between the
- 16:40two of you, you've got to be dynamic, man. It's a tough one.
- 16:42But I think that you handled it pretty well, Adonis, and you made your way out.
- 16:45But it is kind of fun when sometimes it doesn't hit.
- 16:48And it's not always going to be on you. Not always, but you've got to take some
- 16:53responsibility and do the best you can to make sure it lands.
- 16:56Yeah. All right. Our next one is from Aziz Magic.
- 17:00I'm not sure if he's in the chat, but he's definitely on the speak pipes.
- 17:03So let's hear what Adonis, Aziz Magic.
- 17:07Has gone in store for us. Okay, so I have to record this again. Hi, everyone.
- 17:11It's too long to record, like one minute. So, hi, my name is Aziz. I do magic.
- 17:17Since I was 14, I am in Saudi Arabia Riyadh.
- 17:21So, the long story short, I did a gig. Not a gig, actually. I do state magic,
- 17:25regardless of if it's paid or not.
- 17:28Just for fun. So, this was a big convention on our week.
- 17:33We had a lot of visitors coming from all over the country. Here
- 17:36in Saudi Arabia So I did the double cross You
- 17:39know double cross You are familiar with the principle Amazing amazing trick And
- 17:43this is the best time I build this trick I already
- 17:46mark the hand Everyone is anticipating The X moving from my hand Disappear in
- 17:51the thin air It will appear in her hand I build it up for five minutes I've
- 17:56been building this trick up At the end Everyone is silent Everyone is waiting
- 18:01For this to happen And when she opened her hand,
- 18:06Her hand was so clean, like a baby ass.
- 18:10I swear to God, I don't know what happened. After I went back home,
- 18:15I figured out that the mark or the stamp has been broken or dropped or whatever.
- 18:22Like I have the cover, I have the lid, but not the stamp.
- 18:27This is like a really fucked up situation, and how do you cover from it,
- 18:31guys? Tell me, how do you cover from this?
- 18:37Oh wow that is going to be hard to beat in terms of speed pipes because that
- 18:44was a very well told story the speed pipe ever,
- 18:54and i can have you guys done that
- 18:57yet because i have the the stamper has fallen out
- 19:00of the cap i managed to do
- 19:03it to myself i bought double cross and broke it
- 19:05immediately and never replaced it and so
- 19:08that that was my experience with it similar to
- 19:11this gentleman's what's the what the what the
- 19:14fuck yeah i mean i've done it on on live tv like i had i was on was it studio
- 19:2110 or something and and i thought i'd be fancy and i would i would do i would
- 19:27do the stamping as pre-show so that in real time it just looked like real magic
- 19:32and I was very excited for that to happen,
- 19:34and then but the reveal there was still some ink like thank god there was some
- 19:38ink so there was like a little bit but it just hadn't worked or her hands had
- 19:44been cleaned in between sets or whatever.
- 19:48And the only thing I could do was like point at it and like just long enough
- 19:52for her to go, oh, that's weird.
- 19:53And I'll go, no, let's keep going with the ink. I'm going to get you to actually
- 19:56sign a whole card this time.
- 19:57And I brought out the blank deck and you just, you have to keep like moving
- 20:01through it. And then they forget that it happens.
- 20:03Except for magicians. I had like three magicians message me being like,
- 20:07oh, that's stuffed up, didn't it? I'm like, thanks, mate.
- 20:09But yeah, that's, that's tricky. You have to have something to go into if that happens, right?
- 20:15So like, Nick, what comes to mind if you are him, if you're Aziz,
- 20:20you've built up this thing for five minutes and the X has gone somewhere,
- 20:24but it's not in the hand. What do you do?
- 20:27Okay, this is, I just thought of this. Awesome. Purely for redundancy purposes,
- 20:32put an X somewhere on your person.
- 20:35My thought was this. I would probably just pull back my ear and I would put an X behind my ear.
- 20:42And if it ever didn't work i would
- 20:45do a thing where i would go like open your hand and
- 20:49it leaves and it goes behind your ear have a look is it
- 20:51is it not there crap is it let me check yours
- 20:54wait and then you go like it should and you and you show
- 20:57it should it should have been behind your ear just there and then
- 21:00it's behind your ear and you
- 21:03wouldn't use that as a reveal but i
- 21:06think an effect versus no effect works
- 21:10a bit better well if you're doing double cross you need to go get that tat
- 21:13go get that x tat right here you're ready to go commit maybe maybe what about
- 21:21what about what about a coin i used to for a while back in the day i used to
- 21:26i used to with sharpie write a reveal like a six and a heart or something and
- 21:30then i would sit the coin so if it's written here,
- 21:33I would put it in their hand this way, so when they close it now,
- 21:37it'll reveal when they open their hand.
- 21:40But maybe there's a way on the fly. On the fly, you could even do it, but I guess...
- 21:45What if you had a coin with an X on it? So you say, oh, it's not in your hand
- 21:48yet. Okay, let's put something in your hand.
- 21:50And you do like a little fake kind of a display, close your hand, and then try again.
- 21:57Is that going to maybe provoke some kind of magical?
- 22:02Yeah. I don't know. It's tough. It's a tough move when you build it up that much.
- 22:08Scott Link says, I've seen a Waldo tattooed behind an ear.
- 22:12Maybe that'll be fun, holding an X, you know? that's yeah i'm
- 22:16just i'm just half thinking like what would be
- 22:19your backup situation where it's like you go
- 22:22for the miracle miracle fails but you still have
- 22:25an effect and that is the best i can kind of think of where
- 22:28it just it appears somewhere maybe
- 22:31under your watch or like you know like i'm
- 22:33just trying to think where you could put it that would be i actually love
- 22:36that idea any random x ready to go in case
- 22:39of emergency if you're doing a high-end situation or
- 22:42any gig where you need to look smart every time that's
- 22:46a smart out takes one second to make
- 22:48a little x somewhere and if you need it there and
- 22:52for me the type of thing where it's like oh so i go
- 22:55i messed that one up that was supposed to go behind your ear not my
- 22:58ear you know like my bad okay and then they
- 23:01go whoops okay let's move on to the next one and they go that's funny
- 23:04i didn't even see that there and move on yeah
- 23:07yeah it's also a good point to mention that
- 23:10we maybe shouldn't rely on double cross that heavily
- 23:13but what have we got oh look it's
- 23:16behind you run yeah you know what i'm thinking about right now
- 23:19is watching bob sheets perform the hiba haba
- 23:22al sugar trick you guys know what the sugar trick is no what's that as in like
- 23:27sugar cube the one where you rub it comes up here's the deal you take a sugar
- 23:31cube you get someone's initials you ask them what their initials are you write
- 23:35it on the sugar cube you drop the sugar cube in a glass of water and have them
- 23:39put their your hand on top.
- 23:40When they lift their hand, their initials are now in their hand.
- 23:46And then you say, look at the back of your hand and the initials are there.
- 23:49Look at the back of your other hand and the initials are there.
- 23:53Sir, you think that's funny? Look at your hand. You got them too.
- 23:56And so now you, so I don't want to give the whole thing, but you're able to
- 24:01take the impression from the sugar cube.
- 24:03You use a lead pencil and with some moisture, you can
- 24:06dab it onto your finger and start tagging people
- 24:09in different places i saw bob sheets perform this routine slayed with it when
- 24:15you say one he finishes the routine by saying you think that's funny lady you
- 24:19got one on your leg come with me and he runs with her to the bathroom and she
- 24:23starts screaming from the bathroom and,
- 24:27That's great version of, yeah, you, you would have to do it in reverse because
- 24:32it's a stamp as well, which is really quite a, quite a skill set to practice.
- 24:35That is very impressive. And I don't know if you've seen Bob sheets perform,
- 24:40but let me tell you, he is powerhouse.
- 24:43Yeah. And this routine, I don't know, it can get much stronger than that.
- 24:48You know, you have six or seven people have these random initials appear upon them.
- 24:55Damn yeah so that's the hibahaba al sugar trick it's a killer well i'll tell you what guys we,
- 25:02like aziz we've offered a solution with regards to an
- 25:05out if anyone else listening has a better idea we do
- 25:08have a discord where we do share magic and we share ideas there is
- 25:11a hashtag called the the podcast and you just say
- 25:14hey idea for aziz share your thoughts we
- 25:17are a community we do take care of each other so if you have any ideas please
- 25:20scope out our discord share your thoughts in there as well i'm saying
- 25:23we've on to the next one absolutely because no doubt after
- 25:26the pod the three of us will be like oh yeah that's what
- 25:29we should do in that situation it's so hard to
- 25:32think about anything when we're trying to think of this machine not blowing
- 25:36up midstream so let's carry on our next speak pipe is from nicholas aka dragoteer
- 25:43who's in the chat dragoteer let's hear what you've been up to my friend here
- 25:48we go this is more of a gig that never happens story,
- 25:51Me and a couple of other magician friends were wanting to get together and put
- 25:54on a show for the community.
- 25:55And I noticed on my local city website that they had outside stage that you can rent out.
- 26:04It was like a $500 security deposit. So I went up to my parks and rec after
- 26:09my day job and cash in hand.
- 26:12They started to take my information and they said, okay, so what's your band's
- 26:15name? And I'm like, oh, we're not a band. We're just some magicians wanting to put on a magic show.
- 26:20And they go oh well this stage is concerts only so we had to go back to the
- 26:26drawing board for that one yeah and i was just wondering if anything like that
- 26:29has ever happened to you guys that is crazy,
- 26:34you know what that's never happened to me but i've had situations where they
- 26:37go what do you do for a living i go magician and they go oh what instrument
- 26:40do you play i'm just like banjo.
- 26:44And you just go with it yeah yeah
- 26:47yeah the age-old confusion
- 26:50i would just pull out my nose flute and get busy
- 26:53wow that's a tough one nick
- 26:56yeah you're not alone we all get mixed confused with
- 27:00with magicians and musicians but yeah
- 27:02you know that's unfortunate that they because you would
- 27:05think that a magician using the stage is way
- 27:08less of an issue or you know
- 27:11risk than a band how many
- 27:15times have you done a corporate where there's been a band and they're like
- 27:17oh you're gonna do your stage portion up there and you're like the amount
- 27:20of equipment tables microphones foldback
- 27:24speakers drum kit amplifiers there is
- 27:28zero real estate for a magic show here like what the
- 27:31how how did you think it's a good idea and
- 27:34why did you make what did you order the world's shortest stage you
- 27:37know when yeah normally a corporate
- 27:40stage show i always plan to do
- 27:43my routine where i do a backflip on stage and stuff but it always depends on
- 27:48actually when i get there is there a low ceiling compared to the stage i can't
- 27:54do it and has the band freaking taken over the stage if they have i can't do
- 27:58it and i never know until i get there And sometimes,
- 28:02like you're saying, Nick, they're like, oh, yeah, we've left you like a one
- 28:06meter by one meter spot for you to stand. Like, is that enough?
- 28:10I'm like, sure. You know, by that stage, it's too late. And you're like, sure.
- 28:15But yeah, it's crazy how much room and also how much like rehearsal time before
- 28:22the show starts bands will take, which I get it.
- 28:25And it's just, you know, our lives.
- 28:28Every time I do a stage show, which I've done just in the past few months,
- 28:32I'll say for most recent purposes, I'm there.
- 28:36I've done my tech. I've done everything I need to.
- 28:39Doors, normally when I do an event of this nature, it's like a very large scale
- 28:43ballroom with several hundred seats.
- 28:45And there's a foyer in which everyone sits out there. What I tend to do is once
- 28:49I've done my bit, I'll go into the foyer and I'll rock everyone's world.
- 28:53I can't tell you how many times I've gone like, oh, people are starting to arrive.
- 28:56I'm going to go in the foyer.
- 28:57Band isn't even done setting up, nor have they done soundcheck.
- 29:01Yeah. And I'm treating myself like. True.
- 29:05You know what I want to know? I want to hear from musicians out there that get
- 29:09confused as magicians. Are there any of them out there?
- 29:15Is there a dude with like long hair and like, you know, a clean cut beard?
- 29:20And when he's like, oh, I'm a musician. They're like, oh, like,
- 29:23you should go and follow us.
- 29:26He puts his guitar down. That's never happened in the history of man.
- 29:30I'll put my guitar down and grab a Sharpie marker and be like,
- 29:33what's this X on my hand? Yes.
- 29:37Nick, you saying you never got confused as a magician when you were in a band?
- 29:44Never when I was in a band.
- 29:48Fair enough no no thankfully not but yeah
- 29:51i think the way you pivot that i mean you know what i would do i would talk it
- 29:55like so what i'm curious is like the outcome of the gig did they just
- 29:58say like you're not doing the gig or get the hell out of here or what
- 30:00are we supposed to do now like was it like hey man let us
- 30:03do the gig i promise you it's going to be an absolute banger like how
- 30:06did it work out in the end like what was the outcome yeah i
- 30:10think they just tried to book the space and they couldn't book it
- 30:12that's what i got like they couldn't even book it
- 30:15because they're magic dorks yeah learning
- 30:19magic jeez jeez i'm
- 30:23you know my first ever stage show that i put on myself
- 30:26was at a scout hall famously for any
- 30:28of my friends who i made come and watch me it was at the nanda scout
- 30:32hall and it was like you know this dingy two-story what probably used to be
- 30:37a house that they converted into a scout hall i went up there and it kind of
- 30:41looked like a church setup They cleared all the big long chairs away for me
- 30:46and put out normal seats for people to sit on.
- 30:49It was like a dingy wooden stage and some curtains we had to manually pull back and stuff.
- 30:55But sometimes that's just what you do. You just find somewhere else.
- 31:00You make it work. And then the next time you do a show, you just try and find
- 31:03a little bit of a better place.
- 31:06But in the beginning, you just want to do magic, right? So you almost don't care where you do it.
- 31:10You're just whatever. I remember doing letterbox drops for that show,
- 31:14like in, in the surrounding neighborhood.
- 31:16I would never do that now, but, um, in the beginning, you just do find where
- 31:22you can to perform. So you gotta.
- 31:25Yep. I agree with that. And so.
- 31:28Yeah. So we have one more speak pipe from Alex Lam, who just made it in the chat. Shout out, Alex.
- 31:36Alex is only, I feel like he's really ramped up his gigging ability,
- 31:42him and Scotty P, sort of since January this year. And so in the last couple of months.
- 31:46So really interested to hear what conundrums he's getting himself into.
- 31:51Alex Lam, let's hear what you got, buddy.
- 31:54Alright so not the craziest gig story but something just happened at my last
- 31:58one and it's one of those things where just the stars align and you're just
- 32:02like yes something that wouldn't happen.
- 32:05Naturally and it just totally works out so I say pick a card to this guy and
- 32:12I've got two duplicates on top ready for the two card transpo,
- 32:15he's not trying to be a jerk he's just trying to be a bit cheeky and he
- 32:18says I want this one and he takes the second card from
- 32:20the top which is a duplicate and I'm like are you sure you want that
- 32:23one he's like yeah yeah yeah i want this one so i'm
- 32:26like yes in my mind i'm like yes yes yes so he
- 32:29shows his card is one of the jack of diamonds he
- 32:31shows it to his friend i palm the other jack i just
- 32:34do card to pocket right there and i palm palm it pull it out of my pocket and
- 32:38he's like what the hell and he starts freaking out and i say look i'll show
- 32:42you how i do it and i pick up a double and i palm the double and i show him
- 32:46my hands and i've got two cards as one in my hand. I say, look,
- 32:50your Jack of Diamonds gets palmed off.
- 32:52I pull it out of my pocket, and then I've ditched the second duplicate.
- 32:56And I say, look, here, take it back, shuffle, shuffle, shuffle. And I say, look, watch.
- 33:02Empty hand, reach into the pocket, pull out his card again.
- 33:06And he just goes dead silent for like 30 seconds. So it's one of those things
- 33:10where people freak out, and they're like, oh my god, how you do that?
- 33:13And then they go silent, and you just know that their brain is not computing what they just saw.
- 33:19And yeah, it was just one of those fun things that just works out for you.
- 33:23That's great. A duplicate card to pocket sequence.
- 33:29I wonder if you could make that happen on purpose where you have a second one
- 33:34in your pocket already and it is signed enough within like a 10 of clubs that
- 33:40when you flash it, it could be the same one.
- 33:43Let me speak on the original Carlisle homing card routine, which used a pocket
- 33:49switch for that ruse to get one ahead.
- 33:51He would force the three of diamonds, and then after doing the pocket switch,
- 33:56switch it for an ace of diamonds, so that as he inserts the card,
- 34:00he could use this ruse as the card goes in,
- 34:04creating an impromptu duplicate from a force.
- 34:09That's great. And that was the original homing card routine.
- 34:12Stars of magic is your reference.
- 34:14Ooh, that's awesome. I think.
- 34:18I learned my homing card from Michael Vincent's work, and I imagine he probably
- 34:23learned it from there, from Stars of Magic. No doubt.
- 34:27That's a great idea to show the Ace of Diamonds as a three.
- 34:30Or any pseudo-duplicate. Maybe it's better with more pips on the card.
- 34:36But Carlisle's original, he might not have had that touch in Stars of Magic.
- 34:40It might be in the Magic of Francis Carlisle, but I'm pretty sure it's in there.
- 34:45For sure, homing cards in Stars of Magic, though. Wow.
- 34:48There's there's one other duplicate story that comes to mind from pasha our buddy pasha magic,
- 34:54he was doing an ambitious card routine and he
- 34:58would actually sign his duplicates so it
- 35:00looked like a real duplicate like a real
- 35:03exact so he would pretend like it was signed from
- 35:06someone else and he got the guy to pick one out he picks it
- 35:09he's like oh i don't want that one it's already signed and the guy throws
- 35:12it away and pasha's like
- 35:15all right and just by chance he goes right
- 35:17take another one he just so happens to grab the exact same duplicate that looks
- 35:22signed looks at it and goes what the f and it was for him the like the best
- 35:27miracle ever because it was so fair like shuffle shuffle shuffle just take one
- 35:33you gotta you gotta save those moments they're the best.
- 35:37Yeah the best is like when you tell someone
- 35:41to name a card okay i'll share one little quick gig story
- 35:44that only magicians will appreciate but so i'm doing
- 35:47my my normal shtick of mnemonicosis right so
- 35:50the deck's in their hand i'm like the groups crowded around like name any card
- 35:54and in this case it was the eight of hearts so i'm like all right spell your
- 35:59name out she spells her name out boom eight of hearts right amazing miracle
- 36:03great then the group's like holy crap And they're trying to dissect it because they're med students.
- 36:09They're like, what would have happened if she had said a different card?
- 36:13Like, would her name have spelt to a different card?
- 36:15Or like, what if her name was a different spelling? Like, I just can't,
- 36:19like, you just let her do all that.
- 36:21How would that have played out in another reality? I'm like, that's the question.
- 36:25And I don't know why. I don't know why I decided to do it again,
- 36:30but they were just a fun group. And I was like, would you like to see it again, though?
- 36:33Normally I wouldn't. And they're like, yeah. So we give the deck to a different person.
- 36:38And I'm like, all right, name a card. And she just so happens to name the card
- 36:43that's the next one in the deck, the six of spades.
- 36:47So now they themselves have lined up that her card is sitting right underneath her new names card.
- 36:54So when she spells her name out, she spells it out to the eight of hearts.
- 36:59And I'm like, that's so weird that you did that because I thought this might
- 37:03happen. And that's why I put one card right beneath it, check it out,
- 37:07which just solidified that I'd done that on purpose, if that makes sense.
- 37:11And it was like, it was actually too much for them. And it was fantastic.
- 37:17Yeah, that's literally too perfect. Like, oh man.
- 37:21Yeah. And sometimes you just gotta, you just gotta go with it.
- 37:27You're pretty remarkable when you get challenged a lot while you're performing. that
- 37:31happens more times than not especially with the
- 37:33ego that comes along with performing for high-end events
- 37:37you know i'm the rich guy i've got all this ego
- 37:40vibrato it becomes a very much a thing i remember i
- 37:43was performing in a high-end nightclub in our sort
- 37:46of fancier part of town and i'm doing
- 37:49my thing in the club i was on the rooftop because that's where
- 37:52the all the smokers were and everyone's having a great time
- 37:55and this and this i don't know i'm going to do my best to describe it
- 37:58but just imagine like the alpha of the group is then addressed that's like you've
- 38:01got to get blah and then he sees mr alpha and goes you gotta see this guy's
- 38:07amazing and as he walks over he just goes he can't be that good i've still got
- 38:11my watch and i'm like this motherfucker so so naturally i stole the watch.
- 38:22And then i give it back to him being like i guess i'm not good day that and
- 38:25i gave him a business card. I think I did one event for him in the future,
- 38:28but it was just one of those things where you do get challenged and it's like,
- 38:31what are you thinking? You know, like, yeah,
- 38:35And it's funny because sometimes there's always like one, it's either,
- 38:38it's remarkable, either like the alpha or the shit kicker of the company,
- 38:41the guy who like sweeps the floors and cleans the toilets and is like,
- 38:44well, no, no, come on, mate, you can't let that go. Oh, you can't fool me.
- 38:48It's like, bro, you can barely string together a sentence. You're challenging me.
- 38:51I'm like, I'm blowing sleight of hand. Sure. Let's do this.
- 38:55It's, it's a fun thing. It's a fun place to dance where people come at you with challenging.
- 39:00Well, if you could do this, I was performing another event just a couple of weeks ago.
- 39:05Go and this there was a
- 39:08group of guys they were part of this company and every
- 39:12and it was just remarkable because every time they said something it
- 39:15was literally the next phase of the routine i was going to do anyway yes
- 39:19it will do something with
- 39:22three do something with with one coin all right
- 39:25i'll put these two away look at this one here do something
- 39:28with a pen oh and i changed the into a pen
- 39:31boom do something with the balloon fuck this
- 39:35is too good what's that behind your ear boom balloon
- 39:38put a phone in a balloon break the balloon but you can't fix
- 39:41the balloon but you fucking can fix the
- 39:44balloon do the thing hold the balloon but you can't put a card in there i'm
- 39:48like are you have you seen my act have you seen my act like the guy just called
- 39:52out every phase of my thing and then i had the ceo come across sign a card put
- 39:57that card inside the balloon i And I was just like, and then he was like,
- 40:00do something with a knife.
- 40:02And I was like, I left my knife in my bag.
- 40:05And that was it. I go, but I can. But he just, everything he said,
- 40:09I was just like, I got this.
- 40:10Like, it was so fun to just be walked down this garden path.
- 40:15You know? That's so good.
- 40:17Yeah yeah and the reactions are so much higher too because they they feel like
- 40:23it's unprepared because they they're the ones that have said it yeah so it's
- 40:28like just so much stronger one time,
- 40:31one time i was doing a show and i was doing my cups and balls and the cups and
- 40:36balls is entirely reminiscent of gazo's cups and balls but the difference between
- 40:40my cups and balls is i would i bring the table out my three cups and i explain
- 40:45this is like the oldest trick in the book blah blah, blah, blah. And I explained that.
- 40:48I go, so the story of this is quite unique. You see, my real name isn't Nick K.
- 40:53It's Cassidus. It's a Greek name.
- 40:56And I'm first generation born in this country. Now, many years ago,
- 41:02my grandfather migrated here and we had a family business, a fruit shop.
- 41:06And we all used to work in a fruit shop.
- 41:08And people would come from all around to see me do this routine because I didn't
- 41:13want to be like a fruiterer.
- 41:15I wanted to be a magician. and so i used to have to tell my audience hey
- 41:18if my granddad is that a thing
- 41:20yeah yeah it's here it's it's
- 41:23a it's a common thing in fact there was a very popular comedian
- 41:26called con the fruiterer okay which was a
- 41:29greek yeah it's a in australian culture just so
- 41:32you're aware melbourne especially it's the largest greek settlement outside
- 41:35of greece which my background is harden
- 41:38my interruption fruiter not at all not at all but i'm happy
- 41:41to educate but what i would do is i would i would do this
- 41:43bit where i'd say like i used to people would come
- 41:46from all around and see me perform this very routine and i
- 41:49just have to say hey if my granddad comes this isn't a magic show it's a fruit
- 41:54shop okay and everyone goes okay so i do my cups and balls routine and then
- 42:00i start producing all the fruits from underneath the cups and i do six pieces
- 42:04of fruit and two coconuts that's that's Those are my loads on this big table. Right?
- 42:10So I do the whole routine with the six. Now, what I like to do is...
- 42:15I always do this. You shouldn't feel, I go, don't feel bad. You should have
- 42:19been paying attention over here under this cup. Cause you know what,
- 42:21you know, what's under there.
- 42:22And they go orange and I go orange and they go, you should be paying attention
- 42:26over here. And do you know why?
- 42:27And they go, apple. I go, absolutely. Apple, every single fruit they called
- 42:32fruit, veg, you name it was revealed except for the last two.
- 42:38It's because I'm doing six of them. Right. And so I go like,
- 42:40you should be paying attention over here.
- 42:41And do you know why? He goes, onion. I go, no, no, no. The onions on this side. and
- 42:44then I reveal the onion on that side and then I go but what's on this side
- 42:47and he was like potato and I went potato it is he called
- 42:51all six of the fruit so
- 42:54it was like he just named so so for everyone watching my show it was like the
- 42:57guy just named a fruit and it was under the cup he just named the fruit and
- 43:01it was under the cup like it was the best thing I've ever seen and that was
- 43:04such a fun fun thing to do and then I finished the show where I produce a coconut
- 43:09I got I was like you should be paying attention as to what's under the hat.
- 43:12And everyone yells out things like this and that, the three bowls.
- 43:16And I go, no one ever says coconut. And I drop a coconut and then a second one.
- 43:20And then I say, oh, by the way, this wasn't a magic show.
- 43:23And then I hit a kabuki drop and from the front of the table unravels a thing
- 43:27that says Nick's fruit shop.
- 43:28And I go, it wasn't a magic show. It's a fruit shop. And so you've got this
- 43:32table covered in fruit and a sign that says Nick's fruit shop.
- 43:35So it leans back into that thing where if anyone, my granddad comes,
- 43:39this isn't a magic show, I'm just selling fruit.
- 43:41I'm just selling fruit. Man, what a great premise for a magic show to have happen in a fruit shop.
- 43:46Like you got cuffs and balls, you got card to orange, you got the vanishing bandana.
- 43:52Like you could have so much.
- 43:55Multiplying bananas yeah i i did
- 43:58a lot of stuff for woolworth's which is our supermarkets on
- 44:01this side of the planet and yeah i did stuff all over
- 44:04the country for these guys like i was driving all the way i was like
- 44:07five hours away in the middle of nowhere and i was doing shows
- 44:10out there i was working in their bakery even you know what i mean like i
- 44:12was doing stuff in their bakery with bread and like just performing these
- 44:16these shows like it was great it was a great little life
- 44:18and so i really had fun creating that sort of
- 44:21thing but it's such a rarity coconuts what do you have the world's largest pouch
- 44:26that thing are you wearing a pouch when you do this routine or what i have it
- 44:30here if you give me half a sec yeah i want to see this thing how the hell do
- 44:34you hide six oranges and two coconuts that's heavy that's a lot a lot of it's
- 44:40a lot of business going on,
- 44:41so that's a lot of strain on your back if it is going into
- 44:44the pouch this is a custom made pouch oh
- 44:48as per the way i do things this is my one this was actually a gift from my mentor
- 44:55doc andrews made from a beautiful red gum like this will never ever break which
- 45:00i absolutely love and it's beautifully weighted as well you can see like it's
- 45:03yeah and it's proper like with a handle like
- 45:06yeah i used to just use a stick like a tombali stick because i could use that
- 45:09joke where it's like it's a stick it's not a wand i'm not a fairy you would
- 45:12make those jokes but it's got a good sound to it as well you know what i mean
- 45:15like it's really it's really good this is my pouch.
- 45:19Man that's pretty unassuming to hold all that stuff yep
- 45:23uh this is this is a pouch to keep all
- 45:25your money in oh i love
- 45:29that there's a zippered compartment on the
- 45:32back of this pouch i don't think i've ever seen this before yeah
- 45:35money money in
- 45:40it there's a few hundred bucks in there i didn't realize
- 45:43yeah so
- 45:46you just you know i usually put your weaver belt through it
- 45:49put the belt around your waist i
- 45:53have these rings and things street cups
- 45:56absolutely enormous there's a beautiful dent in this one from a guy who doesn't
- 46:00know how to throw um yeah but you know the these these paid off my first house
- 46:07like these are amazing so wow but inside you can see like i've In this very
- 46:12moment, I've got one, two, three...
- 46:15All six yeah is that
- 46:18narrow enough to wear your side pockets
- 46:22when wearing that pouch i have
- 46:25side pockets here okay yeah for
- 46:28the viewers he actually nick actually has two
- 46:31coconuts just chilling in there right now with with four four
- 46:34to six oranges yeah just on the whim who
- 46:39made that thing ah god i
- 46:42wish i could remember i did it online with all
- 46:45my custom colors there's so so i've got i've got
- 46:48stuff here on the sides i've got like thumb a couple of thumb tips in
- 46:50there and what if it's for bill change whatever else i got a
- 46:53couple of bits here i got some stuff on the design then
- 46:57for the pouch did you design did you design
- 47:00the pouch no no it's it's based off an existing design
- 47:03but i wanted to custom colors and stuff they make
- 47:06them out of like brown and i was like i'm not doing that so
- 47:09yeah you know squeakers for doing
- 47:12the gag with the ball you know you get a lot of stuff out
- 47:15of that there's another one yeah the the
- 47:18of the the there's a pouch inside of this
- 47:21couch so i could go my three balls with it you know what i mean like three wink
- 47:25wink balls with it yeah and there's even a little portion on top of that in
- 47:30front of it where like individual little pockets just for the balls just for
- 47:33the ball so yeah but that and this is this is what a fruiter i would ordinarily
- 47:37have like when you go to a fruit market But especially where I grew up,
- 47:41this is what a fruiter I would have. Yeah, all right. That makes sense, actually.
- 47:45Yeah. And so I would wear this fruiter a bag, if you will. Yeah.
- 47:49And just exchange money and this and that and change things and load things.
- 47:53And, you know, so, yeah. No, I don't wear it over the neck. I was just doing
- 47:57it so I can hold it in frame for the camera.
- 47:59But this goes around my waist. Are the oranges real oranges or do you have fake oranges?
- 48:05No, these are 100% real oranges. I had to buy a whole bag of them for like three
- 48:09bucks. I ate four of them last night.
- 48:11Why do you have part of your repertoire then organic fruit in your bag? Cause that shit.
- 48:17Yeah. I got these, I was doing a public show and I just wanted something robust.
- 48:22The, the oranges, naval oranges specifically have a thicker skin and they,
- 48:25they can take a bit of a beating. Yeah. That's good.
- 48:29Yeah. Whereas otherwise what I do is I literally go to the fruit shop to the
- 48:32point that like I go to the fruit shop with this and they look at me like show
- 48:36tonight. I'm like, yeah, show tonight. I've been there.
- 48:39Yeah. And then I just, I just try to find the biggest, like,
- 48:43I guess I'll find the biggest capsicum and I'll be like, yeah.
- 48:47Yeah. And if it goes and it stays for a sec, I'm like, even better.
- 48:51If I have to like, if I have to like.
- 48:54Bang the cup out like to get they're just like oh my
- 48:56god it's like it was growing out of there yeah and so
- 49:02and that's what i do i just go there i find individual pieces you know so typically
- 49:06it's always like the two types of apples you know red and green i always try
- 49:10to get a big size onion try get a big ass orange i love to get a capsicum if
- 49:14i can you know like a bell pepper if you will.
- 49:17Yeah so try to use something like that and then i'll turn up
- 49:20with that micah mar line you never know what might turn up
- 49:23yeah yeah turnips there yeah and
- 49:27so yeah and that's it's a
- 49:29good little back and it's a good little routine yep that's cool
- 49:33are you bringing that to brisbane this
- 49:36weekend is that happening by the way it is
- 49:39i will be in brisbane in in
- 49:42towumba i don't even know where that is but
- 49:45i'm coming and yeah it's i
- 49:49was gonna do the like the close-up
- 49:52set if you will i know we don't really do close-up sets anymore but i was gonna
- 49:54focus on doing close-up and then allowing carrie to the
- 49:58amazing nigel rather to do his larger scale thing so i've got some really gnarly
- 50:04stuff that i'm bringing nice pretty cool like magic theater yeah yeah the theater
- 50:11of magic We once a month also have an extended version of the show that happens in Toowoomba,
- 50:16which is about an hour away from Brisbane City.
- 50:18There's a beautiful theatre there, which has, yeah, hired the show every month
- 50:24for this year, like once a month.
- 50:26And yeah, this time Nick will be going up there with the amazing Nigel.
- 50:31And yeah, the Empire Theatre is beautiful. But the actual room we use is not
- 50:34the theatre. It's like a side venue function room.
- 50:38But it turns out really nice. So, yeah, Toowoomba is not going to know what
- 50:42hits you, man, because Toowoomba is like a pretty chilled sort of like retirement styled town.
- 50:50And yeah, that's going to be good. They get a lot of great acts going through
- 50:53there, but they'll love you.
- 50:56Yeah. Like, should I keep away from the close up stuff because they're old and
- 50:59can't see? Is that what you're sort of leaning into?
- 51:02Oh, no. I mean, I would plan. This is funny.
- 51:05We're just saying this on the air because, I mean, this is good advice for anyone, I guess.
- 51:08But I would definitely plan to do close up but still standing so almost like
- 51:14parlor close up if that makes sense so like you know your car to box work you
- 51:19just I mean I've seen you do it standing up anyway so like,
- 51:22sitting down on a chair seems to not work as well with this audience is what
- 51:27I'm getting at but you can do whatever you want but that would be my advice
- 51:31I kind of pack the chairs in like
- 51:33pretty tight there's a few rows so like anything standing up is perfect,
- 51:37and Yeah, you'll have fun. Yeah.
- 51:40I was performing last week. We had a jam session on our Discord,
- 51:43and I was showing the guys the routines that I've been working on with my coin
- 51:46stuff. And yeah, they were...
- 51:49Impressed i hope i don't want to be self-proclaimed but yeah
- 51:52it was just some pretty pretty cool stuff i'd love to show you guys because
- 51:55i was actually going to jam this with one of our previous guests called tim
- 51:58ellis who's the you know the the president
- 52:01of the what's it called melbourne magic festival that's going to be
- 52:04starting up in a couple of weeks where eric leclerc is going to be coming
- 52:07down along with tobias dostell here in melbourne for the
- 52:09magic festival and yeah he was been sweating me for
- 52:12a while to be like come on let's go work on this routine of yours and uh
- 52:15we're supposed to hang out today but due to some meetings and.
- 52:18Whatever else and he's got to do stuff with visas to get people to
- 52:21come yeah but i would love to share this routine with
- 52:24with you guys so you get your thoughts maybe
- 52:28i'll do it on the show but i've got i got a quick um doctor's appointment
- 52:31when we wrap up in five minutes so nice well
- 52:34let me think let me think quickly so the the
- 52:37gigs that i did on the weekend i'm just thinking of any notable stories i
- 52:40mean a video i just put up yesterday was because it
- 52:43was a casino event they had these giant jumbo cards
- 52:46in the room like giant like one story
- 52:50tall playing cards so the obvious thing for
- 52:52me to do was to to force the two cards that
- 52:55were directly behind the spectators i was performing for
- 52:58so that was a bit of fun so every time i'd go to a different corner of
- 53:01the room i just look at oh what are the two cards leaning against
- 53:05the wall great that's that effect and look
- 53:07i'll share something i'll share a stuff up with you guys well
- 53:10not a stuff up just i'm learning since we're there's no
- 53:14way a layman's listening 56 minutes into this i bought the latest henry harry's
- 53:20tobias dostell vanishing phone you know what do we call it optic yeah something
- 53:26like that i've got one as well oh my god why am i not someone will put it in
- 53:29the chat anyway great setup great methods fantastic.
- 53:34I got caught I got caught in the first sequence I'm like alright I'm going to
- 53:38turn the light on they're like,
- 53:40you're holding two phones. I'm like, God damn it. And I just vanished the extra
- 53:45piece. And then they were like, no, no, it's just your phone. They're like, what?
- 53:48And then that weirdly became the effect was what they thought the extra thing
- 53:54I was holding is now gone because you can just instantly make it vanish.
- 53:58Optics Pro. Thank you, Caden.
- 53:59So I thought I had done enough practicing to give it a try.
- 54:04And I waited till like the end of the gig when I'd shown this group a bunch
- 54:09of stuff and they seem pretty chill.
- 54:10And I was like, can I show you one more that I'm kind of working on?
- 54:13It's like, yeah. Like, all right, let me borrow your phone.
- 54:16Oh, there's two phones. Great.
- 54:20So I got to practice that more. I feel like it's also because I didn't take
- 54:25off their phone cover, but I thought with my hand being there,
- 54:29it wouldn't be a thing to notice.
- 54:31But anyway, just to let you know, we're not all, we're not perfect and, uh,
- 54:36learning new stuff still, still takes time well when
- 54:39you got you know when you borrow someone's phone the heat's going
- 54:42to be on double time so you gotta really get
- 54:45get that misdirection working strong yeah so there's certain things i feel that
- 54:51hold a lot of value that we that we use as borrowed objects i think the finger
- 54:55rings can be one of them depending on which fingering you get some of them are
- 54:58just like a little two dollar thing that somebody bought while they're away
- 55:02in the caribbean or whatever it might be.
- 55:04But phones are like your life. You've got entire photo albums in there.
- 55:08Everything that you hold dear is in there.
- 55:10And it's also now your credit card in a sense. So that's also a very scary thing.
- 55:14And I've had situations where I've been performing where I vanish a phone, as you know.
- 55:21And I had people put police reports on me because they believe that I skimmed
- 55:25the credit card off their phone.
- 55:27And I've had to deal with police reports in that fashion.
- 55:30I've just been like prove it and how much is it they're like oh it was like
- 55:34$43.74 I'm like I would steal that much money from you $43 absolutely and what
- 55:40was it charged to you know.
- 55:43And I missed out on three weeks worth of work because this guy who's an absolute
- 55:46tool just assumed or forgot that he was too pissed to remember that he like
- 55:51bought a round of drinks or whatever the hell it might be.
- 55:54It's just the dumbest things can happen in that sense. I have an effect,
- 55:57which I'm working on, a good friend, David Regal, who we had on the show not too long ago.
- 56:03I've been going through his book, Interpreting Magic, and he's got an amazing
- 56:06routine called Fiscal Waste where credit cards appear in a nest of bins and so forth.
- 56:12I have a whole premise with, with a, I want to use someone's ID instead of,
- 56:17because there was a thing for a while, and this is for me customizing it for
- 56:22a client who specializes in security.
- 56:25And we're talking about how security, like, you know, the security and ID and
- 56:28identity theft can be a thing.
- 56:30And there was for a time people were going through your trash,
- 56:34stealing, you know, let's say you had like some bank statements,
- 56:36for example, you read them and put them in the bin.
- 56:38If someone goes through your trash they can then take those bank
- 56:41statements and basically falsify along with
- 56:44a few other documents and falsify that like no i'm josh
- 56:47nabito you know what i mean so yeah so i
- 56:50had this whole premise of like people going through
- 56:53your trash and people stealing your identity and the idea would be
- 56:56that like your identity is gone your identity must be in the trash let's go through the
- 56:58trash and then we would find your id in there
- 57:01and i feel like the id is a very good thing to use because if
- 57:04they ever go like it's probably a duplicate credit card it's probably a made up one
- 57:07it's probably not even a real one you can't really fake your id man you know
- 57:11what i mean it's just your id and everyone should help you know yeah it might
- 57:16have something to do with you like the the time you've served in jail or your
- 57:19criminal record or your house arrest anklet that's making them seem like maybe you did something dodgy.
- 57:26To the credit card but you know that's how you learn the best sleight of hand
- 57:29in jail so much downtime it is look guys we've pretty much hit an hour this
- 57:35is this has been a very enlightening,
- 57:38episode to hear what you're up to in the trenches keep them coming because the
- 57:41we'll sort of bank them up and then when we hit you know a certain amount of
- 57:45speak pipes we'll unleash more gig stories doug and what's up for you this week
- 57:50in vegas what is happening in vegas right now.
- 57:54Yikes thanks for bringing this up like when would podcast is over oh well you
- 57:59know what no no well don't say that bit.
- 58:01We can say that bit next week, but like, you know, we're busy building the magic empire over here.
- 58:06Had a good time seeing some Vegas luminaries in the shop. Nick defod hung out
- 58:10with Alan new this week. That was cool.
- 58:12Some of the buskers were in last weekend, Victor diamond.
- 58:16He's a hot cat. And Jeremy Jackson, and,
- 58:20Man, I mean, so many magicians in Vegas. Caleb Alexander, he's opening a new
- 58:24show at the Griffin here, taking over Dan Sperry's spot.
- 58:28Oh, wow. Like, cool shit. Like, Nick Defaut's in the shop and needs a ride over to the Mandalay Bay.
- 58:33So, you know, I get to, like, chill with the Vegas hotshots on the down low.
- 58:39I do like seeing your photos show up from Trick Supply of just the...
- 58:44Yeah, and I don't take half of them because I'm self-conscious about asking these
- 58:47pros if i can like blast them out on social media so
- 58:50really you know like well ken axel he
- 58:53does ghost stories at the mandalay bay he was in last week
- 58:56he is a banger let me tell you go see that show you'll
- 58:59be happy we should get him on here actually ken would
- 59:02be we have we've had ken axel on here before oh that's right that's right yeah
- 59:07but it was so long ago that that would be why you don't remember but he is such
- 59:12a strong performer right anyway yeah shit like that You didn't see Ken Axtell
- 59:16on the webpage because I can't ask everybody.
- 59:20Yeah. Well, when Josh and I come to visit, we'll be cool about it.
- 59:24And you can take a photo with us. It's not a big deal. Nice.
- 59:27And that's it for the Magic Guys. We'll see you next week with a guest. So stay tuned for more.
- 59:35Thanks for listening. It's time for us to disappear now. Disappear now.
- 59:41But we'll see you again on the next episode of the Magic Guys. You.