Latest / Aussie Bourbon Lovers / Penelope Barrel Strength a Full Proof Four Grain Bourbon Named After a Baby Girl
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- 0:00Incredible flavours, even better stories.
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- 0:07Aussie bourbon lovers, sharing bourbon with Australia.
- 0:14That was more of a hit the mic with a bottle than a pop, Dave.
- 0:17All right. Thank you very much.
- 0:19What are we drinking? Well, thanks for asking.
- 0:21Tonight, we've got a Penalope Barrelstrength.
- 0:24It's the one with the red label.
- 0:26The Penalipi bottles make such a nice lineup.
- 0:30This is such a good display. They're tall and thin and pretty.
- 0:34And then every label is a different colour, so you can't get confused
- 0:37as to which one you're drinking. 115.
- 0:382 proof, barrel strength.
- 0:43So it's not a single barrel, it's barrel strength.
- 0:46So it's like a batch of that.
- 0:50It's the red Penelope. Cheers.
- 0:53We do get a good sound from our Glen Canes.
- 0:57You do.
- 0:59Rido, H.
- 1:00We've once before spoken about Penelope, and I went
- 1:04with a broad brush that probably wasn't fair about all Penelope expressions,
- 1:08which I don't stand by, actually. No.
- 1:11Because I really didn't have a good understanding of all the
- 1:13Penelope expressions. But tell me what we know about Penelope.
- 1:16It's delicious.
- 1:18It was named after the people who made it named after their
- 1:21daughter, which I think is so cool. Yeah.
- 1:24That makes me a little bit jealous.
- 1:27We didn't start a permanent label after our It would be such a
- 1:32good act of parenthood.
- 1:33Yeah, but they are sourced, although originally were they still sourced.
- 1:39Still are, yeah.
- 1:39So they're sourced, which I think gives it a great edge in the sense
- 1:43that they Obviously, you don't have that same story of generational and
- 1:49everything that a lot of bourbons have.
- 1:50But I think the fact that they've flipped that story and gone the other way,
- 1:56like they've named it after their daughter, so it's the future.
- 1:59But they're mixing good bourbons together, so they can
- 2:02be really fussy and picky with what flavours and tastes and expressions they
- 2:06get, which I think is really fascinating. Great.
- 2:09This is a 4-6-year-old, and it's four grains.
- 2:14I don't know if it's infamous, but in the bourbon world, Penalope was a brand that
- 2:20came from Mjp, Indiana's big distillery that makes a distil for
- 2:27lots and lots of different labels.
- 2:29Penalope Penelope made it, and then the Mjp group, brought it back.
- 2:33I don't know if it's exactly the MGB company, but they now own it.
- 2:36So Penelope is now owned by the company who had originally been
- 2:40selling the whiskey to them.
- 2:41Because the brand has been so successful, and it's been huge here
- 2:43in Australia, actually. I find it more as an easier drink to me.
- 2:48When I was getting into bourbon, some of them were a bit much, and you were
- 2:53like, Whoa, that didn't feel like you could…
- 2:56Whereas Penelope was just an easy drink.
- 2:58It was delicious and easy to drink, like lighter is probably the word I'd use.
- 3:03But this has given me really good dessert. It's interesting.
- 3:07While you were putting the kids to bed, I did a thing where I went…
- 3:11Did a little bit of reading about it because…
- 3:13Because Penelope has so many different expressions, and because they choose from
- 3:17so many different barrels and so many different mash bills and
- 3:21stuff, they can do a huge different number of variations in the
- 3:24expressions and stuff. They can do a lot of different stuff.
- 3:26And somewhere I'd read that barrel strength is just stronger version
- 3:30of their foregrain, which is the white one.
- 3:33But it's not because the- gives us actual facts.
- 3:37The mash bill is actually a bit different.
- 3:39It's not exactly the same.
- 3:40It still has four grains.
- 3:41But the barrel strength bourbon has 82% corn, 8% wheat, 7% rye,
- 3:46and 3% malted barley.
- 3:47And that mash bill percentage, the ranges and stuff are
- 3:50actually different in that foregrain, the white level one, which I think of as the
- 3:54entry level one, which we have spoken about in the past.
- 3:57This one is more, and I'm not What's the corn?
- 4:01There's some podcasters who call it a proof whore, but I'm not a proof whore.
- 4:04But I do like more- You like a stronger-you know,
- 4:08a little bit-high proof. Something more punchy.
- 4:10Say how much corn is in this one?
- 4:1282% corn.
- 4:13There we go.
- 4:14Because I do like the ones with more corn for whatever reason that
- 4:18I've come to learn. Yeah, well, it's the sweetness, isn't it?
- 4:20That you get from that. It's like a bit more syrupy.
- 4:23While I'm sitting here spilling out facts from memory that I can try and
- 4:27remember you've done your research.
- 4:29Putting the kids to bed.
- 4:30You've been doing the worthy thing.
- 4:31I'm just wing it.
- 4:32And you're just like, I actually do the facts tonight.
- 4:35Because otherwise, what would happen is this would be a very dry podcast and
- 4:39you and I would be both sitting here. I had some good information.
- 4:42No, I know. We both know a little bit.
- 4:43I didn't do any research.
- 4:44I'm trying to bring some knowledge to the good Australians.
- 4:48Come on.
- 4:50Thank you for doing your research.
- 4:51Because if I don't have anything to say, I need someone who's done their research.
- 4:55But there's this question that's coming up more recently, right?
- 4:59So the bourbon bubble is busted.
- 5:02There's people saying that the big producers and stuff are in trouble because
- 5:06they can't move enough stock and stuff like that.
- 5:08And then JPM is one of these ones who come back and said that they're
- 5:11returned, what they're able to...
- 5:13The reporting on how much they're selling is coming down.
- 5:17But one of the great things I think about, in particular,
- 5:21Penelope, is that it has so many expressions, and some that
- 5:25are really controversial.
- 5:26Some people really don't like some of their expressions, but they
- 5:29have something for everybody.
- 5:30Yeah, I was going to say they've got something for everyone and every flavour.
- 5:34This one, particularly, I'd say.
- 5:37Halfway through a sentence, you're drinking now.
- 5:39This is interesting.
- 5:40I was just checking that it was the one that I was going to say
- 5:43because it smelt like it.
- 5:44And then I I was like, Oh, I better check it.
- 5:45But it's very desserty to me.
- 5:48I was just double checking because I was like, I'm about to say desserty.
- 5:51If this is the smoky one, I'll have to correct myself.
- 5:54But no, it's the desserty one. It's desserty?
- 5:56Yeah.
- 5:56I'm getting a little bit like- Like burnt, like Like creme brûlé or like
- 6:01something with a burnt top.
- 6:03I was going to sound like a burnt pineapple dessert or something.
- 6:05I don't even know if I've had a burnt pineapple dessert.
- 6:08It's always like that caramelization.
- 6:10Yeah, that caramel top.
- 6:12I'm going to stick with creme brûlé.
- 6:14I actually don't think it's too different to the Penelope white label.
- 6:17I like it because it's bigger, full of flavour.
- 6:19And the mouth feels better as well.
- 6:23It's got that-Are these easily available in Australia, Penelope?
- 6:26The Penelope, you can get in Australia.
- 6:27You got to find them.
- 6:28It's not like you're going to walk into a bottle shop and find it.
- 6:31You've got to go online.
- 6:33But the Penelope expressions are readily available.
- 6:35Yeah.
- 6:35And they've got quite a few now, which I love.
- 6:39Yeah, absolutely.
- 6:40Pick your favourite Penelope, and you can follow your bourbon trail from there.
- 6:44A hundred %.
- 6:46If I said to you, I was going to give you...
- 6:49You could choose. You can only have one pour.
- 6:51One is barrel strength. So it's like a...
- 6:55Actually, you can choose from three. Here we go.
- 6:56You can choose from a barrel strength.
- 6:58So it's a vatted at the It's the full proof.
- 7:00So it's the full proof that it was in the barrel.
- 7:02These are all Penelope's.
- 7:03I'm saying across any whiskey.
- 7:05Oh, that's too hard.
- 7:06No, let's try it.
- 7:08You can have it barrel proof, or barrel strength.
- 7:13You can have a single barrel.
- 7:14So it's like a lucky dip, but theoretically, I picked a good one.
- 7:18Or you can have a central expression.
- 7:20So like something that's down at 45 % or 40 %, that the distal has gone,
- 7:26this is our best, this is the one.
- 7:28We're going to make it consistently or them forever.
- 7:31The last one would be make his mark.
- 7:33Well, no, that could be anything. It could be a Michter's bourbon.
- 7:35It could be an Old Forest, or it could be Buffalo Trace.
- 7:38It could be an Eagler. It could be any of these, right?
- 7:41I don't know, Dave.
- 7:44I'm not saying it's completely agnostic.
- 7:47You can get single barrels, and you can get barrel strength of
- 7:49almost all of these. But in terms of a strength.
- 7:53A strength?
- 7:55Barrel strength, I suppose, in single barrel, it's going to be roughly the same.
- 7:59I I do like a good single barrel, but that's
- 8:04contradictory to the fact that I enjoy drinking Penelope because
- 8:06there's a lower strength.
- 8:10Yeah, I suppose- That's why it's tricky to answer.
- 8:12Because if I was to have one last pour of bourbon, I'd go a single-
- 8:15That's not death row.
- 8:16We haven't made a sentence.
- 8:18I'd go a single barrel of something delicious because you know
- 8:22it's good when they've made a single barrel.
- 8:25But having said that, Penelope, it's like you can't fail.
- 8:30Find the expression of it you like because they've got a nice range and they've
- 8:37really picked and worked out the flavours they want to bring through in each one.
- 8:41Okay, let's go to the big ones.
- 8:44You can choose a Buffalo Trace, a Michters, a Maker's Mark, an Old
- 8:49Forrester, and an Elijah Craig, or a Penelope.
- 8:52To me, Penelope is the most crafty of these expressions.
- 8:56I could have listed a whole bunch of others.
- 8:58It depends on the moment.
- 9:00You're not going to get a straight answer.
- 9:01You're not going to- No, because if it's not too
- 9:07cold an evening, if it's a cold evening, I'm sitting in front of the fire, I want
- 9:11a Michters or a Do you want to make this because Andrea
- 9:17and Dan said they weren't going to be in our cat.
- 9:18Andrea and Dan will come and join us. Yes.
- 9:21Or a maker's or I don't know.
- 9:26If I feel like a dessert, I want an old Forrester or a a Blanton's Gold, like
- 9:31something that's really delicious.
- 9:34But if I'm just, I don't know, weekend, Penelope is like
- 9:41my, What do I have tonight?
- 9:42I'll always start on a Penelope because it's always going to be delicious
- 9:45and it's light enough to start on.
- 9:48I need to get more bottles of Penelope for this selection because I feel
- 9:52like I don't have enough for you.
- 9:53Well, I feel like I start on a Penelope and then I'm like, Now I feel like dessert
- 9:57and go to an Old Forrester or go to a a Bluntons or an Egl Rare or
- 10:02many of the other ones that I like.
- 10:04It's one of the things we love about Bourbon, right?
- 10:05Because I enjoy Penelope, but I love how much you love it so that you can
- 10:10have that and I can have others.
- 10:12When I'm drinking the Penalip, I always make you drink the ones
- 10:14that I really don't like.
- 10:15Which I really do like.
- 10:17Here's to that.
- 10:18Enjoy Bourbon, how you like it. Cheers.
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