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- 0:05Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Three teens including brothers behind
- 0:18Speaker 1: bars right now for homicide. Now, typically when I read
- 0:23Speaker 1: a headline that says teens boys too, team mails behind
- 0:28Speaker 1: bars for murder for homicide, I think, oh, junior predators,
- 0:35Speaker 1: baby killers. They're going to even be worse when they
- 0:38Speaker 1: grow up. But believe it or not, these three teams
- 0:42Speaker 1: have signatures demanding they be released from jail. Now. Have
- 0:49Speaker 1: you ever heard me say I want a killer release
- 0:55Speaker 1: from behind bars? Because I don't think I have ever
- 0:57Speaker 1: said that before you judge me. I want you to
- 1:01Speaker 1: hear the whole story. Why are three teen boys behind
- 1:07Speaker 1: bars for homicide? I mean, I see Grace. This is
- 1:11Speaker 1: Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here at
- 1:13Speaker 1: Fox Nation and series XM one eleven. First of all,
- 1:17Speaker 1: take a listen our cut one, our Frenzy k r
- 1:20Speaker 1: GV Channel five. Homicide investigation underway in Far. That's video
- 1:25Speaker 1: from the scene in McAllen yesterday. Far police say the
- 1:28Speaker 1: body of forty two year old Gabriel Kindania was dumped
- 1:31Speaker 1: there after he was killed. Eighteen year old Alejandro Trevino,
- 1:35Speaker 1: already in custody in connection with Anthania's death. Charges against
- 1:39Speaker 1: him pending Police now looking for seventeen year old Christian Santos.
- 1:44Speaker 1: They're also looking for a third guy believed to be
- 1:47Speaker 1: driving a red Dodge Charger. We're told the investigation stems
- 1:51Speaker 1: from a family situation. If you know where to find
- 1:54Speaker 1: Santos or have any other information related to this case,
- 1:57Speaker 1: contact for our crime Stoppers at seven eight eight four
- 2:01Speaker 1: seven seven with me an all star panel to make
- 2:04Speaker 1: sense of what we know right now. First of all,
- 2:06Speaker 1: Katherine March, special Victims Liaison Sate Attorney's Office joining us.
- 2:12Speaker 1: You can find her at right Response Consulting dot com.
- 2:17Speaker 1: Karen start RightNow. Psychologists joining us out of Manhattan, Karen
- 2:21Speaker 1: start dot com. Starting with a C. Greg Scheffer, former
- 2:25Speaker 1: Phoenix Police Department detect twenty two years and specializing doctor
- 2:32Speaker 1: Kendall Crowns with us, the Chief Medical Examiner Tarrant County.
- 2:36Speaker 1: That's Fort Worth, Texas lecturer University Texas and Texas A
- 2:41Speaker 1: and M also faculty University Texas Medical. And first let's
- 2:46Speaker 1: go to Mark Reagan, staff reporter the Monitor that's in
- 2:50Speaker 1: the Rio Grand Valley. You can find him at my
- 2:54Speaker 1: RGV dot com. Mark, thank you so much for being
- 2:57Speaker 1: with us. I want to start first of all, with
- 2:59Speaker 1: the discovery of forty two year old Gabriel Ka. Tell
- 3:06Speaker 1: me where was his body found and in what condition?
- 3:11Speaker 1: Mister Keithania's body was found by a farmer in a
- 3:15Speaker 1: kind of a small agricultural area on the southern part
- 3:19Speaker 1: of McAllen. Which are you saying, McCallan, McAllen, McAllen, Yes,
- 3:24Speaker 1: go ahead, because I have Far, Texas right So McCallen
- 3:30Speaker 1: and Far are right next to each other. We're the
- 3:32Speaker 1: seventh largest county and in the state of Texas. And
- 3:35Speaker 1: hold on, wait a minute, wait, wait, wait, Mark, Texas
- 3:40Speaker 1: is like its own country. God blessed Texas. Who doesn't
- 3:46Speaker 1: love Texas? Nobody that I know. So if you're telling
- 3:49Speaker 1: me McAllen and Far are the two biggest counties in Texas,
- 3:55Speaker 1: that must be pretty big. Tell me tell me about it.
- 3:58Speaker 1: We've got about a million people here, lots of international commerce.
- 4:02Speaker 1: And then we also are kind of surrounded by world areas,
- 4:05Speaker 1: and in those royal areas are kind of along the
- 4:07Speaker 1: edges to the south and to the north. And it's
- 4:09Speaker 1: one of them in these world areas that they found
- 4:12Speaker 1: Keeth in his body. Hold no, I want to get
- 4:14Speaker 1: back to McCallen and Far. Okay, when you say there's
- 4:17Speaker 1: a lot of international commerce, what do you mean by that? Exactly?
- 4:21Speaker 1: Chances are if you eat tomatoes, they go through Far
- 4:25Speaker 1: really produce, yes, car parts, stuff of that nature. Can
- 4:30Speaker 1: you keep talking because I don't know any of this.
- 4:33Speaker 1: I mean, I know how to try a murder case.
- 4:36Speaker 1: I know how to talk about trajectory of bullets and
- 4:41Speaker 1: bleeding out and the law felony murder. I know how
- 4:45Speaker 1: to crime scene tape around the house, but I don't
- 4:48Speaker 1: know anything about what you're saying. So this dead body
- 4:53Speaker 1: is found out in a rural area. You said McAllen County.
- 4:59Speaker 1: Is that what you said? No, McAllen is a city
- 5:01Speaker 1: in the county? Is Hidagbell County? Okay? I'm going to
- 5:04Speaker 1: go with the city of McCallen, Okay, city mccollun and
- 5:07Speaker 1: in a rural area, correct, right, right? And so the
- 5:10Speaker 1: case first originated with that police department, Mark Reagan with
- 5:14Speaker 1: me from the monitor, uh and Rio Grand Valley, Mark,
- 5:20Speaker 1: that is a huge area there in Texas, huge rural area.
- 5:26Speaker 1: Like you just schooled me, if you eat a tomato,
- 5:29Speaker 1: it probably came through uh McAllen where exactly in this
- 5:35Speaker 1: huge rural area was Gabriel can Tee his body found
- 5:40Speaker 1: on a small little plot of farmland south of the
- 5:45Speaker 1: city of McCallen. A small plot of farmland south of McCallen.
- 5:50Speaker 1: Was he buried? No, who's just laying there in front
- 5:54Speaker 1: of God? And everybody's laying there in some in some
- 5:57Speaker 1: tall grass, laying in tall grass. I'm just curious. Did
- 6:04Speaker 1: they look for drag marks? Had he been dragged there? Dump?
- 6:08Speaker 1: There were their car or tire tracks in tall grass?
- 6:14Speaker 1: I mean, you know what you're making me think of everybody?
- 6:17Speaker 1: We all went through the Karina Vatronto murder case, a
- 6:21Speaker 1: long own jogger case together and in the journey oh,
- 6:27Speaker 1: I hate using that word, but in the journey finding
- 6:30Speaker 1: her killer, finding her body started with her dad, Phil Vatrono,
- 6:37Speaker 1: out looking for his daughter who went jogging without him,
- 6:41Speaker 1: who was supposed to go that day. And he saw
- 6:43Speaker 1: one who's praying to God to find his daughter. He
- 6:49Speaker 1: saw one blade of tall grass bent over, and he
- 6:55Speaker 1: was told to go that way. He went that way.
- 6:58Speaker 1: He saw another blade in another blade, and he followed
- 7:01Speaker 1: it and he found his daughter's body. Mark Reagan were
- 7:08Speaker 1: there drag marks, do we know. I don't know if
- 7:11Speaker 1: they were drag marks, but they were definitely tire marks. Ah, well,
- 7:15Speaker 1: there you go. You trumped me, you big foot of me.
- 7:18Speaker 1: So there were tire marks, which tells me, oh so
- 7:23Speaker 1: much with me, Greg Cheffer, former Phoenix Police Department to
- 7:26Speaker 1: take to twenty two years, Greg, obviously that means the
- 7:32Speaker 1: same with stage. He was not killed there, he was
- 7:35Speaker 1: taken there, and his body was dumped there. Why why
- 7:38Speaker 1: do you believe that? If you do believe that, I
- 7:41Speaker 1: think it does look like they dumped the body or
- 7:44Speaker 1: whoever dumped the body, and obviously to do that to
- 7:47Speaker 1: try to hide the crime or hide the body, take
- 7:50Speaker 1: it to a different location and hopefully give them time
- 7:53Speaker 1: to either get away or to hide the body for
- 7:58Speaker 1: a period of time. You know, so very curious, Katherine Marsh.
- 8:02Speaker 1: They didn't bother to bury the body if they wanted
- 8:05Speaker 1: it hidden, but they dumped it. What does that tell
- 8:08Speaker 1: you about the killer? They were probably inexperienced and I
- 8:14Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of prior time of destroying evidence
- 8:19Speaker 1: or anything like that. It could also show that it
- 8:21Speaker 1: may have been pretty spontaneous or pretty quick because it
- 8:24Speaker 1: was just a dump. You know, Karen's dark the staging
- 8:30Speaker 1: of a scene, the hiding of a body. You and
- 8:34Speaker 1: I have talked many many times, all the way back
- 8:37Speaker 1: to court TV and would set. You and I would
- 8:40Speaker 1: sit on a dark set talking about the trial as
- 8:43Speaker 1: it unfolded in front of us. Staging the scene means
- 8:48Speaker 1: something very significant, and staging could be as simple as
- 8:52Speaker 1: moving the body. It could be as simple as putting
- 8:55Speaker 1: a blanket over the face. You and I've talked about
- 8:58Speaker 1: a case where mother was found naked in her bedroom
- 9:03Speaker 1: and the killer had put a put a weaker trash
- 9:09Speaker 1: basket over the mom's head. I mean, we see all
- 9:12Speaker 1: sorts of staging, staging to make a murder look like
- 9:15Speaker 1: a suicide. But what does staging tell you about the
- 9:19Speaker 1: identity of the killer? Karen start Well, it tells you
- 9:22Speaker 1: how the killer feels about the victim. You know, for instance,
- 9:27Speaker 1: the examples you were giving Nancy. When someone's face is
- 9:30Speaker 1: being covered, then you assume that there was concern about
- 9:37Speaker 1: them being taken care of to some extent, as absurd
- 9:42Speaker 1: as that may sound. And when I think about this
- 9:45Speaker 1: particular example, there is no staging. They just dump him
- 9:51Speaker 1: and leave him, and that tells me that they could
- 9:54Speaker 1: care less that here's a person that they disregard, feel
- 9:59Speaker 1: like he's trashed, Let him just be there, and they're
- 10:02Speaker 1: fine with that. Angry You're saying that very often seen
- 10:06Speaker 1: your stage because the killer cares about the victim. In
- 10:09Speaker 1: this case, I don't think they cared about the victim
- 10:11Speaker 1: at all. They dumped him out in a rural area,
- 10:13Speaker 1: hoping nobody would ever find his body. What do you
- 10:16Speaker 1: make of that? I agree, that's exactly what I'm saying.
- 10:19Speaker 1: The fact that they just dumped in and made no
- 10:22Speaker 1: attempt to cover him up or even to hide their
- 10:26Speaker 1: crime tells me that they were enraged. Furious spring breakers
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- 10:57Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace. To Mark Reagan joining us from
- 11:04Speaker 1: the Monitor there in the Rio Grand Valley. You can
- 11:07Speaker 1: find him at Monitor News. Hey, Mark, could you tell
- 11:11Speaker 1: me about the cod cause of death? The cause of
- 11:14Speaker 1: death is blunt force trauma. Okay, that takes them doing
- 11:19Speaker 1: Doctor Kendall Crowns. It's not always like you see in
- 11:22Speaker 1: the movies, one walked to the back of the head
- 11:25Speaker 1: the person kills over dead. Very often you find the
- 11:28Speaker 1: victim of blunt force trauma death beaten from head to toe.
- 11:34Speaker 1: Explain what it takes to kill somebody with blunt force
- 11:37Speaker 1: trauma as in this case. Well, so when you're using
- 11:40Speaker 1: blunt force trauma and just using your fists and not
- 11:43Speaker 1: a bat or a boar or something like that, you
- 11:46Speaker 1: have to hit the individual numerous times to try and
- 11:51Speaker 1: cause enough damage to kill them. Sometimes you can punch
- 11:54Speaker 1: him in the face and they fall back and they
- 11:56Speaker 1: break their skull on the sidewalk, But if that doesn't happen,
- 12:00Speaker 1: and you just have to continually hit them until you're
- 12:02Speaker 1: causing enough injury internally generally in the neck or the
- 12:06Speaker 1: skull region that it causes injury to the brain or
- 12:10Speaker 1: vital structures in the neck until they die. Also, you
- 12:14Speaker 1: can hit an individual in the abdomen as well and
- 12:16Speaker 1: cause the rupture of the liver and intestines. But again
- 12:20Speaker 1: that takes a fair amount of forest and a lot
- 12:22Speaker 1: of repetitive hitting. So Martin Reagan, what a police do
- 12:26Speaker 1: when they find Gabriel Continia there on this isolated farm.
- 12:31Speaker 1: And you said it was a small family farm plot
- 12:36Speaker 1: to whom did the plot belong or do we know
- 12:39Speaker 1: that yet? Oh, we don't know. We don't know who
- 12:41Speaker 1: it belonged to. These little splatches of farmland are pretty
- 12:46Speaker 1: pretty common in the area. So, Martin Reagan, did anyone
- 12:50Speaker 1: live on the plot? Was their home there? No, you know,
- 12:53Speaker 1: nobody lived there. Nobody lived there. What about any video surveillance?
- 12:59Speaker 1: I guess in that area, very rural area, the closest
- 13:02Speaker 1: thing you'd have to any video surveillance is going to
- 13:04Speaker 1: be maybe maybe, and probably not a red light cam. Um. Well,
- 13:10Speaker 1: actually you'd be surprised. It is rural, but it's right
- 13:14Speaker 1: up next to an urban area as you get down
- 13:16Speaker 1: close to the border, and being the nature of the border,
- 13:20Speaker 1: there are cameras everywhere. But they were able to obtain
- 13:24Speaker 1: that video surveillance. Why are three teams behind bars for
- 13:30Speaker 1: the homicide of this man, a forty two year old
- 13:33Speaker 1: Gabriel Kintania. Take a listen now to far Police Chief
- 13:39Speaker 1: Andy Harvey. The second part of this, and I want
- 13:42Speaker 1: to make sure it's clear, is that there's some questions
- 13:47Speaker 1: about why is it a capital murder versus just a murder.
- 13:52Speaker 1: And it's a capital murder because Kintania was kidnapped right
- 13:56Speaker 1: when he was taken in in the everyone fifteen dropped
- 14:01Speaker 1: off somewhere else, so he was kidnapped, and then at
- 14:03Speaker 1: the scene where they dropped him off, they think the
- 14:09Speaker 1: Vinos they got some property that they removed, some property still,
- 14:14Speaker 1: some property from Anthenia, So that makes it a capital murder.
- 14:19Speaker 1: So I understand what they're saying to you, Katherine marsh
- 14:23Speaker 1: is that it is a capital murder because it was
- 14:26Speaker 1: what in conjunction with another felonies such as kidnapper, robbery.
- 14:32Speaker 1: That's right, So in Texas you can have a capital
- 14:34Speaker 1: murder crime when you have an intentional killing that goes
- 14:37Speaker 1: along with either a kidnapping or a robbery. And as
- 14:42Speaker 1: we heard from the police chief, he's saying, we've got
- 14:45Speaker 1: the elements here of a kidnapping, taking him from one
- 14:48Speaker 1: location to the other the field where he was found,
- 14:51Speaker 1: and then also some of his personal property was removed.
- 14:54Speaker 1: Mark Reagan, I'm very curious what is the property that
- 14:59Speaker 1: was still because that makes it sounds sound like the
- 15:03Speaker 1: three the two brothers and the friend were after the
- 15:08Speaker 1: alleged victim, Gabriel kent Quantinea to rob him the bri
- 15:14Speaker 1: The piece of property that was stolen was actually very personal.
- 15:17Speaker 1: It was a watch. I believe it was a gold
- 15:19Speaker 1: watch that Christian gave his stepfather for a birthday or
- 15:23Speaker 1: a Christmas And the last thing Christian does after dumping
- 15:26Speaker 1: his stepdad in the field and he takes that watch back,
- 15:30Speaker 1: and that's the piece of property that was stolen. What
- 15:33Speaker 1: does that tell you, Karen Stark, so symbolist, Nancy, I mean,
- 15:36Speaker 1: if you think about what we're talking about with them
- 15:40Speaker 1: just dumping the body, he's saying, absolutely made a mistake
- 15:45Speaker 1: in giving you this watch. You don't deserve anything, and
- 15:48Speaker 1: I'm taking no one else. It tells me, Karen Stark.
- 15:51Speaker 1: It tells me that at some point this teen boy
- 15:55Speaker 1: has now just turned seventeen, cared about out the stepfather,
- 16:01Speaker 1: Gabriel Kntonia enough for a young boy who doesn't have
- 16:06Speaker 1: much to get the money to buy the stepfather a
- 16:10Speaker 1: gold watch. And then I mean, when you have a
- 16:15Speaker 1: breakup or something like that, Karen Starr, you want I
- 16:17Speaker 1: want my stuff back, you want your stuff back, because
- 16:21Speaker 1: it means something because you were, let's just say, in
- 16:24Speaker 1: love and you feel betrayed and you want your stuff
- 16:27Speaker 1: back to me. I can just see this teen boy
- 16:32Speaker 1: taking that gold watch that he had given his stepfather
- 16:36Speaker 1: back after he had beat him so badly, because at
- 16:39Speaker 1: one time he cared for the stepfather. That's the picture
- 16:43Speaker 1: that is so clear, Nancy. That betrayal is the word
- 16:48Speaker 1: you use that comes to mind. That he loved him
- 16:51Speaker 1: and cared about him and got a gold not just
- 16:54Speaker 1: a regular watch, but a gold watch. And it was
- 16:57Speaker 1: so hurt, betrayed, angry that he grabbed that back. He
- 17:02Speaker 1: made sure after killing him, he took the time to
- 17:06Speaker 1: take that mutch from finding out more about how the
- 17:09Speaker 1: murder unfold, to take a listen to for a police
- 17:12Speaker 1: chief Andy Harvey cut Ten. They found him on veteran's
- 17:16Speaker 1: road walking and so a third assault happened. So this
- 17:20Speaker 1: continues and it's the third time that they meet. Well
- 17:25Speaker 1: of what we learned now that during the second assault,
- 17:28Speaker 1: I believe Christian had some brass knuckles, So brass knuckles
- 17:32Speaker 1: were using these assaults. So they continued to assault Ya,
- 17:38Speaker 1: and they this time they severely beat him to the
- 17:42Speaker 1: point where he's either unconscious or close to it. They
- 17:47Speaker 1: then decided to pick him up, kidnap him, put him
- 17:51Speaker 1: in back of the F one fifty in the bed,
- 17:54Speaker 1: and drive off to somewhere in South McCallen. He was
- 17:57Speaker 1: dropped off somewhere in the Whalen and McCall area. That's
- 18:01Speaker 1: where the McCallan Police Department was called and that's where
- 18:05Speaker 1: they found him later that day. We understand that he
- 18:09Speaker 1: was unconscious but breathing at the time, but nonetheless Kidania
- 18:13Speaker 1: died there at the in the open field. M You know,
- 18:18Speaker 1: I haven't seen a lot of people crying over this murder.
- 18:22Speaker 1: Think about it a murder with the use of brass knuckles.
- 18:27Speaker 1: To doctor Kinnell, Crown's chief medical examiner joining us out
- 18:31Speaker 1: of Tarrant County, that's for worth explain what brass knuckles
- 18:36Speaker 1: do and why that's different from punching somebody with your fist.
- 18:40Speaker 1: So what brass knuckles are is they go over your
- 18:43Speaker 1: fingers and they are standardly metal. They can be shaped
- 18:48Speaker 1: in a way that they can have edges or even
- 18:51Speaker 1: points on them. And what they make you're punching more efficient,
- 18:56Speaker 1: So they cause more tissue damage with each punch because
- 18:59Speaker 1: the metal can cause more damage. And then again, if
- 19:03Speaker 1: they're shaped, it can also cause paring or punctures or
- 19:07Speaker 1: things like that. So breass knuckles make your punches better
- 19:13Speaker 1: or harder. Doctor Kennel Crown spoken like a true MD,
- 19:17Speaker 1: a medical doctor, a medical examer. Greg Shepherd break it
- 19:21Speaker 1: down for me. What do brass knuckles do? Because great damage.
- 19:26Speaker 1: It's gonna increase your damage. You punch somebody in the
- 19:29Speaker 1: face with brass knuckles, it's gonna be lights out. And
- 19:32Speaker 1: if you hit them multiple times, you could crush the skull,
- 19:36Speaker 1: cause hemorrhaging to the brain. And also it protects the hand.
- 19:41Speaker 1: It doesn't cause the person using them. They don't worry
- 19:45Speaker 1: about breaking their knuckles when they're breaking the facestating. It's
- 19:51Speaker 1: devastating to whoever is taking those punches. So why again, people,
- 19:58Speaker 1: what these three from behind bars? Take a listen to
- 20:02Speaker 1: our cut two Carina Vargas CBS four. Three teens were
- 20:08Speaker 1: charged today for the murder of a forty three year
- 20:10Speaker 1: old man. We first brought you this story Thursday when
- 20:13Speaker 1: far police were searching for suspects after the death of
- 20:16Speaker 1: Gabriel Quintanilla, and then on Friday, investigators linked three teens
- 20:20Speaker 1: you can see on your screen. On the left is
- 20:22Speaker 1: seventeen year old Christian Trevigno, in the center eighteen year
- 20:26Speaker 1: old Alejandro Travigno, and on the right is nineteen year
- 20:28Speaker 1: old Juan Eduardo Melendez. Ythania was found in a McCallen
- 20:32Speaker 1: fields and police say that several fights broke out at
- 20:35Speaker 1: different locations after Gintania was accused of touching his nine
- 20:39Speaker 1: year old daughter, who was also the half sibling two brothers.
- 20:44Speaker 1: Kitania was left in a field severely beaten. Investigation revealed
- 20:48Speaker 1: that the victim was heard beaten with the brass knuckles
- 20:53Speaker 1: and suffered severe hittram. At that point, all of the
- 20:57Speaker 1: victim was ever written beaten. The victim I still have
- 21:00Speaker 1: been alive when he was there. And McCallan we don't
- 21:04Speaker 1: know for how long. Obon has been set at five
- 21:06Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars for all suspects. Crime stories with Nancy
- 21:24Speaker 1: Grace straight out to Mark Reagan joining us from the monitor.
- 21:33Speaker 1: So bottom line, these three teams, two of them brothers,
- 21:37Speaker 1: were convinced the stepfather, Gabriel Kiddania, had been molesting the
- 21:42Speaker 1: nine year old little sister. Is that right? Oh yeah,
- 21:45Speaker 1: that's that's right. On that day, the child had made
- 21:49Speaker 1: an outcry to the mother, and the and the and
- 21:52Speaker 1: the boys found out about it. But that's just part
- 21:56Speaker 1: of the story. Take a listen to our cut six again.
- 22:00Speaker 1: For Police Chief Andy Harvey, this warrant was for a
- 22:04Speaker 1: separate offense, not the nine year old. We were not
- 22:07Speaker 1: aware and we were not aware of any history. Mark Reagan,
- 22:12Speaker 1: another child molestation victim. There's a warrant for a separate offense.
- 22:18Speaker 1: What that's correct? And we know very little about the
- 22:21Speaker 1: details of that warrant. Well, what do you know what
- 22:24Speaker 1: the warrant was for, Yes, continuous sexual abuse of a child,
- 22:28Speaker 1: and not this nine year old little girl, a different
- 22:31Speaker 1: little girls, nine year old girl. Can I just ask, theoretically,
- 22:37Speaker 1: what was he doing out and in the home with
- 22:41Speaker 1: a nine year old little girl? Why was he there?
- 22:46Speaker 1: Shouldn't that be have been a condition for if you
- 22:50Speaker 1: got a warrant for you, I mean, why was he
- 22:53Speaker 1: allowed to be in the home with a nine year
- 22:55Speaker 1: old girl. It's really hard for me to understand why
- 22:58Speaker 1: the girl's mother would let him in the home unless
- 23:02Speaker 1: she didn't know about it. Those are just a few
- 23:05Speaker 1: questions running through my mind. Let's take a listen to
- 23:07Speaker 1: cut six again the police chief Andy Harmy, start from
- 23:11Speaker 1: the top. Police, this warrant was for a separate offense,
- 23:15Speaker 1: not the nine year old. We were not aware and
- 23:18Speaker 1: we were not aware of any history between Kinthania and
- 23:21Speaker 1: his nine year old girl, which allegually happen on Wednesday night.
- 23:25Speaker 1: So we just don't have enough information about that because
- 23:28Speaker 1: that's still an ongoing investigation. So those are two separate incidents.
- 23:34Speaker 1: We had not heard from Kentthania. Obviously, he's been running
- 23:37Speaker 1: from us and we didn't know of him until he
- 23:40Speaker 1: was found deceased in McAllen and ongoing investigation and other words,
- 23:47Speaker 1: this guy's walking free after he's accused molesting one little girl.
- 23:52Speaker 1: He's walking free because of an ongoing investigation. They don't
- 23:58Speaker 1: even know where he is. Take a listen to our
- 24:01Speaker 1: cut number four kr gvs. Monica Danda. That warrant for
- 24:06Speaker 1: gay rookie Danija for continuous sexual abuse of a child
- 24:10Speaker 1: was from another incident and that involved another minor, not
- 24:13Speaker 1: the miner currently involved in this case. We're also learning
- 24:16Speaker 1: tonight the mother of the Travino brothers may face charges.
- 24:20Speaker 1: The detectives went out to look for Kintania at that
- 24:23Speaker 1: time and were unable to find him. They searched, They
- 24:27Speaker 1: went to his last known residence. They went to his
- 24:30Speaker 1: mother's residence multiple times. Far Police first learned about gay
- 24:35Speaker 1: rookie Danija in twenty nineteen when a miner claimed King
- 24:38Speaker 1: Danija sexually assaulted her between twenty fourteen and twenty sixteen.
- 24:42Speaker 1: He was being elusive, obviously and hiding from US Chief
- 24:47Speaker 1: Harvey telling us. King Danija's name was then entered in
- 24:50Speaker 1: a national database and he'd been on the run ever since.
- 24:53Speaker 1: So the ongoing three years of Chamla station alleged going
- 25:00Speaker 1: back to two thousand and sixteen. There was a warrant
- 25:04Speaker 1: taken out in two thousand nineteen. Now you know what
- 25:08Speaker 1: straight back out to you, Mark Reagan, I'm just ad
- 25:12Speaker 1: JD A Juris doctorate. I'm not good at math. But
- 25:15Speaker 1: let's see two thousand nineteen, two thousand and twenty, two
- 25:19Speaker 1: thousand and twenty one, two thousand twenty two. There's been
- 25:24Speaker 1: an ongoing investigation for four years on molestation that started
- 25:29Speaker 1: back in two thousand and sixteen. Are my numbers correct? Mark?
- 25:33Speaker 1: Your numbers are correct, But from twenty nineteen to twenty two,
- 25:37Speaker 1: it's been find the fugitives, you know, find the fugitive? Well,
- 25:41Speaker 1: did he live there? Did he live in either mccallend
- 25:45Speaker 1: or far? From what I understand, he lived in fart
- 25:48Speaker 1: And what's the population of Far Texas? Oh? You know,
- 25:53Speaker 1: it's it's best just to lunk the whole area. And
- 25:55Speaker 1: it's about it. It's about a million growsing. This guy's
- 26:01Speaker 1: living right under their noses and they couldn't find him.
- 26:04Speaker 1: So he's out walking free. So we can molest another
- 26:06Speaker 1: little girl that we know of. I mean, Karen Stark,
- 26:10Speaker 1: our friendly shrink from Manhattan, Karen Stark. How many times
- 26:15Speaker 1: have we talked about the fact that once somebody's caught
- 26:17Speaker 1: molest it's like DOUI. Once you catch a DOUI, they
- 26:21Speaker 1: have already driven drunk. I've forgotten how many a hundred
- 26:24Speaker 1: x times they've already driven drunk. Same thing with child molestation,
- 26:28Speaker 1: once you catch one, they've already molested what seventy times
- 26:32Speaker 1: and they've never been caught? Is that the right number?
- 26:35Speaker 1: I would say, so, Nancy Dave, they have been doing
- 26:38Speaker 1: this for many, many years. They can't stop them. I'm
- 26:42Speaker 1: so mad right now, I could chew a nail in
- 26:45Speaker 1: half Karen Stark. When children aren't molested, they go on.
- 26:51Speaker 1: From the outside looking in, it seems like they're having
- 26:54Speaker 1: a normal life. They're not. What are some of the
- 26:57Speaker 1: side effects of child molestation on the but it influences everything, Nancy.
- 27:03Speaker 1: They're not able to perform well in school. Sometime it's trauma,
- 27:08Speaker 1: so they can't sleep at night. They relive the incident.
- 27:12Speaker 1: They don't feel comfortable around adults or people in general.
- 27:17Speaker 1: Sometimes they develop a lot of phobias. It's a terrible,
- 27:21Speaker 1: terrible thing, as you know, to do that to a child.
- 27:26Speaker 1: Their life is never the same, that feeling of helplessness.
- 27:30Speaker 1: To Greg Sheffer, former Phoenix PD detective twenty two years
- 27:35Speaker 1: specializing and child sex exploitation crimes against children, jump in, Greg,
- 27:41Speaker 1: this is not a tea party over at high Growth,
- 27:45Speaker 1: all right. We're talking about a child molester that has
- 27:49Speaker 1: now been murdered. The sons had to take the law
- 27:52Speaker 1: into their own hands. Well, when I heard about it,
- 27:56Speaker 1: it sounds like they walked at warrant through, so I
- 27:59Speaker 1: don't think he was ever in custody for that prior.
- 28:03Speaker 1: Explain what you just said walking through, Well, it sounds
- 28:06Speaker 1: like they never arrested him for that prior case, but
- 28:09Speaker 1: they wanted to, and then he was in the wind,
- 28:12Speaker 1: and so they walked that warrant through, which means they
- 28:15Speaker 1: went through either a grand jury to get an indictment
- 28:18Speaker 1: so they could get a warrant to issue it and
- 28:21Speaker 1: put it in the system so they could try to
- 28:23Speaker 1: pick him up. So I don't know the details of
- 28:27Speaker 1: that prior case, but obviously it was extensive. It was
- 28:29Speaker 1: a two year crime of continuous sexual abuse. And obviously,
- 28:37Speaker 1: if he lived in that town, his family knew about
- 28:40Speaker 1: that as well, so that that was not a secret crime.
- 28:44Speaker 1: I'm sure mom knew about it, and anybody associated with
- 28:48Speaker 1: knew about that. But then when he did the repeat
- 28:52Speaker 1: and he actually harmed someone closer to home, I think
- 28:55Speaker 1: that's what enraged the brothers and cause, Okay, I'm getting
- 29:00Speaker 1: a limb here, Katherine Mars. Just based on what we
- 29:03Speaker 1: know right now, if there had been ongoing sex molestation
- 29:06Speaker 1: in the last case where he was walking free, that
- 29:11Speaker 1: tells me ongoing a couple of years at least, a
- 29:14Speaker 1: molesting a little girl. He had access to her like
- 29:18Speaker 1: a parent, a stepfather, and uncle, a piano teacher something
- 29:22Speaker 1: like that where he had access to a child alone.
- 29:27Speaker 1: Now doesn't that sound a lot like a similar transaction
- 29:31Speaker 1: to you, because here you got a nine year old
- 29:34Speaker 1: girl allegedly being molested by Gabriel Kintania same thing absolutely
- 29:42Speaker 1: seconds the first How long, how loudly do we have
- 29:46Speaker 1: to sing? This is a man who has been in
- 29:48Speaker 1: a position of trust and care for at least two
- 29:52Speaker 1: young people that we know, he abused that trust and
- 29:56Speaker 1: sexually molested them. And what we know is there was
- 29:59Speaker 1: enough evidence for the first incident, the court or a
- 30:05Speaker 1: commissioner from probable cause for that crime and issued a warrant.
- 30:09Speaker 1: And the real travesty is from two thousand and nineteen,
- 30:13Speaker 1: that warrant was not served and this little nine year
- 30:15Speaker 1: old girl was also molested, and I'd bet you bottom
- 30:19Speaker 1: dollar other girls were molested as well. Guys, take a
- 30:24Speaker 1: listen to our cut five from KRGV. Police have arrested
- 30:29Speaker 1: three teens, including Kintanija's stepsons Alejandro and Christian Trevigno, and
- 30:34Speaker 1: a third male, Mediz. According to police, they beat Kindanija
- 30:39Speaker 1: after hearing he had allegedly sexually abused another miner who
- 30:43Speaker 1: was also a family member. Now two of the teams
- 30:46Speaker 1: facing capital murder charges. Capital murder because Kintania was kidnapped
- 30:52Speaker 1: right when there. He was taken in in the back
- 30:55Speaker 1: of the everyone fifteen dropped off somewhere else, so he
- 30:58Speaker 1: was kidnapped, and then at the scene where they dropped
- 31:00Speaker 1: him off, the thinking the Vinos they got some property
- 31:08Speaker 1: that they removed some property or still some property from Kingthenia.
- 31:12Speaker 1: We also asked Chief Harvey, if there's a possibility the
- 31:15Speaker 1: boy's mother could face charges, Mark, why would the teen
- 31:19Speaker 1: boys mother be arrested? What's the reasoning there? If she
- 31:24Speaker 1: knew that Kingtania had diswarned and she didn't turn him in,
- 31:30Speaker 1: that would be hindering apprehension or prosecution. Wait a minute,
- 31:34Speaker 1: the law would expect her to turn in her own husband. Yes, okay,
- 31:39Speaker 1: that's probably not going to happen. But what I'm more
- 31:43Speaker 1: concerned about, Mark Reagan, and of course you're absolutely right,
- 31:47Speaker 1: But what I'm more concerned about if the mom knew
- 31:50Speaker 1: about the alleged prior sex melitation molestation they went on
- 31:54Speaker 1: for allegedly years on another little girl, why would she
- 31:58Speaker 1: have him around the nine year old daughter? And Mark
- 32:02Speaker 1: Reagan also the nine year old alleged child molestation victim
- 32:09Speaker 1: at the hands of now dead Gabriel Kintania. That's her daughter, right,
- 32:14Speaker 1: that's correct. And her half brothers, her step brothers, are
- 32:20Speaker 1: Christian and Alejandro. Correct, that's right. So from what I understand,
- 32:25Speaker 1: the little girl admits that the dad, Gabriel Kintania, is
- 32:33Speaker 1: molesting her, and the boys go and they go look
- 32:36Speaker 1: for him, and they find them. Right, that's right, and
- 32:39Speaker 1: they kill him. Right, that's right, they kill him. I
- 32:43Speaker 1: think one thing you can note though, is Alejandro owing
- 32:46Speaker 1: participated in the first meeting, then Christian and his friend
- 32:51Speaker 1: one go track him down the second time, then the
- 32:54Speaker 1: third time. Take a listen to our cut three k
- 32:57Speaker 1: R g V. The three teens on screen now arraigned
- 33:01Speaker 1: for the murder of a man in McCallen of our
- 33:03Speaker 1: Police say the trio severely beat forty two year old
- 33:06Speaker 1: Gabriel King Dania and dumped his body in a McCallen field.
- 33:09Speaker 1: We first told you about this story on Thursday when
- 33:12Speaker 1: police discovered the body. Officials tell us the incident started
- 33:16Speaker 1: when a child alerted someone that Keith Dania had touched
- 33:19Speaker 1: them inappropriately. After the teams confronted Kentthania. A fight broke
- 33:23Speaker 1: out and continued at several locations before he was dumped
- 33:26Speaker 1: in McCallen. Police believed Keith Dania may have been alive
- 33:29Speaker 1: when he was dropped off. Keithania was already wanted by
- 33:33Speaker 1: police for ongoing abuse of a child. All three teens
- 33:36Speaker 1: have been charged with aggravated assault and engaging and in
- 33:39Speaker 1: criminal activity. Christian Travino and Juan and Guado Melendez also
- 33:43Speaker 1: charged with capital murder and a lot of questions we're
- 33:47Speaker 1: finding the answers to them. Now take a listen to
- 33:50Speaker 1: our cut eight police Chaef again. January twenty first, our
- 33:54Speaker 1: detectives met with Alejandro, the eighteen year old and he
- 34:00Speaker 1: talked about a fight that took place at twelve to
- 34:04Speaker 1: one piece more trailer. It's a trailer Part one forty
- 34:09Speaker 1: in Boby Alejandr and Christian his brother and what they
- 34:14Speaker 1: have what they heard was to be in alleged touched
- 34:20Speaker 1: by their stepdad, Kintania with their sister nine year old sister.
- 34:25Speaker 1: They learned that their stepdad had inappropriately touched her his
- 34:29Speaker 1: nine year old which is their stepsister half half sister.
- 34:34Speaker 1: Which is also important to note that the nine year
- 34:37Speaker 1: old that was the victim. This is her biological dad.
- 34:41Speaker 1: Kintani has her biological father. It has a lot of
- 34:44Speaker 1: different legs here, So I'm trying to keep everybody kind
- 34:47Speaker 1: of up to date here. So here's a guy that's
- 34:51Speaker 1: been charged with chamla station on a little girl. Before.
- 34:55Speaker 1: I would wager somebody he's related to, because he had
- 35:00Speaker 1: access to the child to molest them over a period
- 35:04Speaker 1: of years. Nobody stopped him, get a warrant on him,
- 35:09Speaker 1: he gets walked through. In other words, they get the warrant,
- 35:14Speaker 1: he's charged, and then he's As was said earlier in
- 35:18Speaker 1: the Wind on the Loose, cops don't do their job.
- 35:22Speaker 1: They don't find him until he turns up half dead
- 35:27Speaker 1: out in a field. Because they didn't do their job,
- 35:32Speaker 1: he's free to molest again this little girl that we
- 35:38Speaker 1: know of, how many others don't know. Now, I'm not
- 35:41Speaker 1: suggesting police are responsible for the death the homicide, but
- 35:46Speaker 1: I am saying they dropped the ball and didn't put
- 35:49Speaker 1: this guy behind bars. Of course, on the other hand,
- 35:52Speaker 1: Mark Reagan, you and I were talking off camera about
- 35:55Speaker 1: jail crowding, and it was my belief that in Texas
- 36:00Speaker 1: they don't just let you out because the jail is crowded.
- 36:03Speaker 1: But am I wrong? You know, they don't just let
- 36:06Speaker 1: you out because the jail is overcrowded in like they
- 36:10Speaker 1: do in New York City and City of Atlanta and
- 36:13Speaker 1: many other big jurisdictions. They just here, give me your fingerprint, boo.
- 36:18Speaker 1: You know in New York they were actually then giving
- 36:22Speaker 1: arrestes gift cards. Mark Reagan, you know that right in
- 36:26Speaker 1: New York City, Deblasia was handing out gift cards to
- 36:29Speaker 1: people after they got I'm not aware of it. Yeah,
- 36:32Speaker 1: well now you are. Hmm. It's like you get a
- 36:36Speaker 1: prize for getting arrested. Mark Reagan joining me from the
- 36:39Speaker 1: monitor at Rio Grand Valley. Mark, the fight, let me say,
- 36:46Speaker 1: went to multiple locations. Tell me about that. I'm sure
- 36:51Speaker 1: it was kind of They caught him outside the initial
- 36:55Speaker 1: apartment complex. They beat him, he ran away on foot,
- 37:00Speaker 1: tracked him down, they beat him again. He was able
- 37:02Speaker 1: to get away one more time, and they went and
- 37:05Speaker 1: they found him a final time, and he didn't get
- 37:07Speaker 1: away that time. What is the mother saying about all
- 37:11Speaker 1: of this, Mart Reagan? Right now? Nothing publicly. All they've
- 37:15Speaker 1: been tained is we need we need money to get
- 37:19Speaker 1: a lawyer, a lawyer for the three boys, the tains
- 37:22Speaker 1: for the boys. That's right, this is what we are
- 37:26Speaker 1: learning about the way that the homicide unfold. To take
- 37:29Speaker 1: a list of our cut nine is the police chief
- 37:31Speaker 1: Andy Harvey. Again, this is what happened they found out
- 37:35Speaker 1: about this. There was a fight that ensued there inside
- 37:38Speaker 1: the trailer between the two brothers and their stepdad. There
- 37:43Speaker 1: was a fight stepdad. Kintania leaves the trailer. He walks out,
- 37:48Speaker 1: and shortly right down the road, Christian that the older
- 37:53Speaker 1: brother leaves, catches up to Kintania and there's a fight
- 37:59Speaker 1: that ensues. Well around the same time, Christian and Juan Melendez,
- 38:04Speaker 1: a friend, catch up to them. They get involved in
- 38:08Speaker 1: the fight, and so there's three against one. So the
- 38:11Speaker 1: second assault happened right down the road on more. A
- 38:14Speaker 1: few minutes later, they leave him there. He's beaten up,
- 38:18Speaker 1: but he's still conscious and walking. The three leaves drop
- 38:23Speaker 1: off Alejandro back at the house. They go to Juan's
- 38:27Speaker 1: house pick up a different car. They picked up a
- 38:30Speaker 1: white fe fifty and they decide to go back and
- 38:35Speaker 1: look for Quintania to see if they can find him again. Well,
- 38:39Speaker 1: it wouldn't be the first time that vigilante justice was
- 38:44Speaker 1: carried out. Take a listen now to our cut eighteen
- 38:49Speaker 1: from ABC. A frantic father called nine one after finding
- 38:54Speaker 1: a farmhand, he sues Floraz allegedly sexually assaulting his little girl.
- 38:58Speaker 1: The Lavaca County Histric Attorney's office released the dramatic call, Okay,
- 39:10Speaker 1: I'm glad in that case the defendant who attacked his
- 39:22Speaker 1: daughter's molester was let free. So explain to me right now.
- 39:27Speaker 1: Straight back out to our friend Mark Reagan from the
- 39:30Speaker 1: Monitor in Rio Grand Valley, Where does the case stand now?
- 39:34Speaker 1: You've got at least a two time sex offender on
- 39:38Speaker 1: children allegedly walking free, and the brothers of the little
- 39:45Speaker 1: girl find him and beat him and he dies. They're
- 39:48Speaker 1: the ones behind bars. Where does the case stand right now? Mark? Well,
- 39:52Speaker 1: right now? Which the boys are going to get bondid
- 39:56Speaker 1: If you want to help in any way or find
- 39:59Speaker 1: out more, go to change dot org Justice for Alhandro
- 40:04Speaker 1: Christian and Juan. Repeat Change dot org Justice for Alejandro,
- 40:10Speaker 1: Christian and Juan. If you know of someone that is
- 40:14Speaker 1: being sex assaulted, don't just stand by and do nothing.
- 40:19Speaker 1: If you need help yourself, Toll free eight hundred six
- 40:24Speaker 1: five six, four six seven three repeat eight hundred six
- 40:29Speaker 1: five six, four six seven three Let justice be done.
- 40:35Speaker 1: Goodbye friend,