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More on the Columbus statue and your calls · Chuck Douglas

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  Speaker 1: Chuck Douglas in the Power Hour on six ten WTV
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  Speaker 1: and talking about the Columbus statue, the Christopher Columbus statue
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  Speaker 1: that was I say, arbitrarily removed in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: that I ate, under the direction of our current mayor,
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  Speaker 1: because he didn't think that the statue reflected the values
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  Speaker 1: of the people the city of Columbus, the city of Columbus,
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  Speaker 1: which continues to be named after him even without the
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  Speaker 1: statue down there, doesn't make sense to me. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know the process for putting this on the ballot, but
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  Speaker 1: I think it should be put on the ballot. The
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  Speaker 1: people should be allowed to speak in the city of
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  Speaker 1: Columbus about whether or not they want that statue down
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  Speaker 1: there in front of city Hall where it's been for
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  Speaker 1: so many years. And yesterday, you know, it was in
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  Speaker 1: the news at for Columbus Day. There were some protesters
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  Speaker 1: down there saying exactly the same thing. I agree with them.
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  Speaker 1: A two one nine eight eighty six. My number A
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  Speaker 1: two one WTV. And let's take him in order here,
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  Speaker 1: Denny or on six ten DOUAUTVN.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Chuck, I'm very much in favor of that. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's a great idea. I think all these states and
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  Speaker 2: cities that's got all these statues toured down should take
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  Speaker 2: that idea and run with it. As a matter of fact,
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  Speaker 2: I get a statue, you have put an ash tray
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  Speaker 2: on it. Just to get that thing on ice tray back.
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  Speaker 1: I would love to have a statue of me with
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  Speaker 1: an ash tray. And maybe it's got to be attached, Denny,
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  Speaker 1: so nobody can steal it.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: My wife would want one too, so I'm still play well.
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  Speaker 1: She'd want to fancy one, though. I just want to
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  Speaker 1: I want to cheat dollar tree when attached to my statue.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but no, I think that's a great idea.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, let's show them where the people are the
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  Speaker 2: merit of make the final book. That people make the
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  Speaker 2: final book.
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  Speaker 1: There, that's exactly how it's supposed to work, Denny. They
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  Speaker 1: just have a tendency to forget that when they want
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  Speaker 1: something that they know we don't want to happen, especially
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  Speaker 1: at four o'clock in the morning. Barbara on the Legacy
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  Speaker 1: Retirement Groove dot Com phone line. Hi, you and me, Barbara.
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  Speaker 1: I got no Barbara, all right, I'll put Barbara back
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  Speaker 1: on hold. See we can get her back, Tim, you're
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  Speaker 1: on sixthen WUTVN.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, thanks for taking my call.
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  Speaker 1: How are you fine, sir?
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  Speaker 5: Good?
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  Speaker 6: Hey.
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  Speaker 5: I believe when the VIC becomes governor, we'll get our
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  Speaker 5: statues back.
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  Speaker 7: I you know, taking down without a vote.
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  Speaker 2: It can be put back up without a vote.
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  Speaker 1: That from the state level or not. I think I
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  Speaker 1: think Columbus needs to stand on its own two feet
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  Speaker 1: for something like this.
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  Speaker 6: I hope so so God willing, well we'll get something.
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  Speaker 2: So thank you all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, I appreciate the call, Tim, Thanks very much. Interesting
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  Speaker 1: interesting though about Vivek Ramaswami is there are those who
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  Speaker 1: would say that that same process didn't apply to him
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  Speaker 1: as he was essentially, you know, named our GOP gubernatorial
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  Speaker 1: candidate without the people going to a primary. And there's
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that are going to support
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  Speaker 1: him simply because we we we definitely can't have a
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  Speaker 1: governor acting. But I think they would have been happier
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  Speaker 1: had they been allowed to go to a primary and
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  Speaker 1: choose between mister Ramaswami and anybody else that was interested
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  Speaker 1: in being the Republican nominee. Just the way I'm seeing things,
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  Speaker 1: A two one nine eight eight six month number eight
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  Speaker 1: two one WTV, and we need that statue back. I
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  Speaker 1: think it should go on the ballot. I think the
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  Speaker 1: people should be heard and their decision should be obeyed
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  Speaker 1: by the people that are supposed to be the servants
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  Speaker 1: of the public. Bottom of the hour, final check of
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  Speaker 1: the traffic situation from day and night, heating and cooling
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  Speaker 1: products and dial mechanical. How's it in Johnny twenty three?
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  Speaker 1: Way from the top of the hour, I'm Chuck Douglas.
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  Speaker 1: This is the Power Hour on six to ten WUTV,
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  Speaker 1: and talking about the Christopher Columbus statue. And people went
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  Speaker 1: down to protest in downtown Columbus a city hall, you know,
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  Speaker 1: in observance of Columbus Day, which then became Indigenous People's Day,
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  Speaker 1: which is now Columbus Day again. And they were largely
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  Speaker 1: Italian American and they want the statue back. And I
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  Speaker 1: am on their side, absolutely on their side, not because
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  Speaker 1: I have any Italian roots, but because this is Columbus, Ohio.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't think you can take down a monument
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  Speaker 1: like that from the people's house saying that Columbus's values
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  Speaker 1: do not reflect the values. First of all, it was
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  Speaker 1: fourteen ninety two for gosh sakes, the values were different.
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  Speaker 1: Don't be an idiot. Secondly, if we're going to continue
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  Speaker 1: to be called to Columbus, Ohio, it doesn't make sense
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  Speaker 1: for us to be upset about a statue of our
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  Speaker 1: namesake in front of our city hall. So I think
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  Speaker 1: there should how, whatever the process is, there should be
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  Speaker 1: a reference and put on the ballot. Let the people
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  Speaker 1: of the city decide. This was done in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of the night with no public input because the mayor
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  Speaker 1: just didn't think Christopher Columbus represented the values of the
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  Speaker 1: people of Columbus, Ohio. Ridiculous A two one nine eight
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  Speaker 1: six A two one, Barbara, I think we got you back?
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  Speaker 1: Is that so?
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  Speaker 6: I hope?
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  Speaker 1: So there you are. Yes, I hear you. You're on
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  Speaker 1: sixthen WUTV and.
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  Speaker 7: I just want to say, we need that statue back.
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  Speaker 7: I was born and raised in Columbus. Cumbas is my city,
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  Speaker 7: I think, and I'm trying to remember back fifty three
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  Speaker 7: or fifty four, I was actually one of the people
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  Speaker 7: on the court more than this Columbus whatever it was
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  Speaker 7: that the Italian Club had. My ancestry is an Italian,
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  Speaker 7: but a beautiful girl named Beverly became the queen. We
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  Speaker 7: had our pictures taken and the paper and all that,
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  Speaker 7: but I really I was really upset when it was
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  Speaker 7: taken down, and I much really have the statue back
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  Speaker 7: and have a different mayor.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you can remove him in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of the night though. That wouldn't be right.
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  Speaker 6: You're sure, oh wow.
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  Speaker 7: The other thing is is we need the ship back.
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  Speaker 7: I remember going down there and looking at the ship,
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  Speaker 7: and it was very educational. The kids in the elementary
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  Speaker 7: school would have a great time and learn a lot
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  Speaker 7: because they don't understand how small those ships were.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I walked through it. It was a very
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  Speaker 1: small they say it was I think a scale replica.
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  Speaker 1: So I mean it was very small inside. It's surprising
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  Speaker 1: you could make it across.
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  Speaker 2: The ocean exactly.
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  Speaker 7: And I was thinking maybe because I would be a
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  Speaker 7: place for it. But yet, I don't want people to
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  Speaker 7: have to pay to see it. I mean, you can
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  Speaker 7: see it and then you pay extra money to go
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  Speaker 7: through it. We did, Yeah, and one of the elementary
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  Speaker 7: school teachers, as she retired, she was the guy through
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  Speaker 7: the ship and explained it all to us. So that
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  Speaker 7: needs to be replaced. Columbus is Columbus. I think there's
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  Speaker 7: like maybe nine Columbuses in the United States, but we're
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  Speaker 7: the biggest one where the capital. We need our stagy
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  Speaker 7: back where it belongs. Don't waste money on the stupid
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  Speaker 7: park that nobody's going to go to where.
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  Speaker 2: It might not be safe.
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  Speaker 1: Barbara, you set a mouthful. I appreciate the call, and
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  Speaker 1: thanks for calling back and getting on there. I would
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  Speaker 1: we somehow before old Lookie, here we got Brian Steele
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  Speaker 1: on SIXTHTV and a Brian, Hey, how are you Chuck? Fine?
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  Speaker 1: Are you calling about the Columbus statue?
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  Speaker 7: You know I am.
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  Speaker 8: I'm listening to show as I do every day coming
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  Speaker 8: on from work, and I had to call in. This
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  Speaker 8: never had anything to do with a statue. This is
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  Speaker 8: just when when when you were a leader and you
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  Speaker 8: have people yelling at you, disagreeing with you, you can't just
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  Speaker 8: need your reaction. You gotta take a breath to your point.
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  Speaker 8: If you're going to get rid of a statue, then
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  Speaker 8: get rid of the name, take the take the patch
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  Speaker 8: off the Columbus police uniform. It was to quiet a
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  Speaker 8: very small but very.
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  Speaker 5: Loud majority, and this is a very minority. This is
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  Speaker 5: where leaders have to stand their ground, put it out
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  Speaker 5: to the people they serve. What does the community want
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  Speaker 5: us to do? Overwhelmingly nobody cared about a statue. Every
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  Speaker 5: single nation, society, anything in this world. What was settled
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  Speaker 5: by Conkers just just read a book, right So, and
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  Speaker 5: that's just all I wanted to say about it. I
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  Speaker 5: felt compelled to call.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate the call, and you are exactly spot on, Brian.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks very much, be safe out there, and thank you
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  Speaker 1: for serving and protecting this city called Columbus, Ohio. Because again,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like Brian said, it's on, it's on everything,
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  Speaker 1: on everything, but you pose for the cameras, you want
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  Speaker 1: the SoundBite, and you know, a very vocal minority is
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  Speaker 1: Brian put it. He's right said, Oh it's just it's offensive.
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  Speaker 1: It's offensive telling me when I see the statue, I
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  Speaker 1: just I feel frightened. I needed God. Those aren't the
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  Speaker 1: people you cater to, you know, the the left minded
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  Speaker 1: people love to throw around that word democracy. Well then
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  Speaker 1: make it a democracy. Let's let the people of Columbus
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  Speaker 1: have a say. It's that simple. A two one nine
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  Speaker 1: eight eighty six A two one WTV and Steve, you're
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  Speaker 1: on six tenu wutv and Hi, Hi Chuck, thank you.
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  Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I'm not really for statues to start with, Like,
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  Speaker 4: I really don't. I don't think anybody should really be
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  Speaker 4: put on a pedestal like that. I really don't. But
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  Speaker 4: besides that, though, I'd get the historical significance and everything.
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  Speaker 4: You're so right about all that and everything, But I
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  Speaker 4: just feel like our money can be spent on other
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  Speaker 4: things as far as city money. Now, if a sponsor
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  Speaker 4: wanted to put it up, or if we could get
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  Speaker 4: like a a I don't know, you know, a cookout
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  Speaker 4: together or something and get you know, raise the money
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  Speaker 4: for it or what, you know what I mean, I
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  Speaker 4: would be all for it, But I just I don't.
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  Speaker 4: Once they took it down, I don't. I don't see
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  Speaker 4: the point in it.
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  Speaker 1: It's just an a warehouse. To deal with me anyway, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's just an a warehouse somewhere. So it's not like,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we already paid to have it taken down.
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  Speaker 1: But if it took it, you know what, I'd bring
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  Speaker 1: back the Corby tradition of the world's largest yard sale
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  Speaker 1: out here in the parking lot. I'd raise the money
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  Speaker 1: to have it put back. Up. If the people wanted
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  Speaker 1: it up in the city wouldn't do it, I'd.
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  Speaker 4: Be all for that. I'd be all for that. I just, man,
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  Speaker 4: they take too much of our money. Do you know
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  Speaker 4: how I feel about taxes, Chuck. I mean, I just
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  Speaker 4: you know, it's just when is it going to stop?
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  Speaker 4: You know? Yes, and we just kind of draw the
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  Speaker 4: line somewhere and somehow, And I don't know, it's not
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  Speaker 4: gonna hurt my feelings if it gets put back put
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  Speaker 4: back up, and I probably would vote yes for it,
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  Speaker 4: but I just saint four statues.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's don't I don't think really for me, Steve,
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  Speaker 1: it's not so much that oh I want to have
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  Speaker 1: the statue. I have to have the statue. It's it's
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  Speaker 1: that in the middle of the night, at four am,
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  Speaker 1: this mayor made the decision, without asking anybody, without any
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  Speaker 1: public input, just decided he didn't want it there because
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  Speaker 1: he didn't think it reflected our values, and had it removed.
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  Speaker 1: That's just that's not right.
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  Speaker 4: I totally agree, and maybe he should be the one
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  Speaker 4: to pay for it to put it back up.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's a plan.
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  Speaker 4: I like that, you know now you say it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that all right. I appreciate it, Steve,
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  Speaker 1: thanks very much. That's you know, there's that I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: There's a case to be made. Are you giving carte
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  Speaker 1: blanche to UH to act arbitrarily on behalf of your
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  Speaker 1: stituents when you're the mayor or is there is there
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  Speaker 1: something that says, you know, you you didn't go through
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  Speaker 1: appropriate channels here, you didn't go through the process. You're
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  Speaker 1: you're liable for this. I don't know. I have no idea,
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  Speaker 1: but it's it's worth exploring. And if we put the
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  Speaker 1: Columbus statue back, then you know, of course we can
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  Speaker 1: finally get them to put the the the Zach statue back,
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  Speaker 1: which you know they took down because it was scaring kids,
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  Speaker 1: but that was next to the Lion's enclosure up at
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  Speaker 1: the Columbus Zoo.
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  Speaker 6: They're putting them back.
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  Speaker 1: It's just a beard. It's just the beard this time,
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  Speaker 1: so if they don't see you behind the beard, it
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  Speaker 1: won't be nearly as frightening. And and my statue will
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  Speaker 1: have an ash tray on it. Yes, it's sad that
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  Speaker 1: we even have to have have the conversation, it really is.
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  Speaker 1: But again, you know, some people turned out, they they
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  Speaker 1: made some noise they wanted back, and I agree. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna just just for the heck of it,
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  Speaker 1: for something in grins as they say, I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: see if I can check out what is the process
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  Speaker 1: for creating a referendum like that and having it put
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  Speaker 1: on the ballot. It can't be too too difficult to
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  Speaker 1: do it, and you really don't even need to go
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  Speaker 1: into a lot of detail as far as you know,
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  Speaker 1: explaining the ballot issue or whatever. Pretty simple. Should the
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  Speaker 1: City of Columbus government be compelled to return the Christopher
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  Speaker 1: Columbus statue to nighty West Broad Street in its original position?
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  Speaker 1: That's it. There's no lengthy explanation, no translation needed. A
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  Speaker 1: very simple question, and of course again my answer is yes.
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  Speaker 1: A two one nine eight eighty six A two one
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  Speaker 1: WTV and ed. You're on the Legacy Retirement Group dot
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  Speaker 1: com phone lines.
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  Speaker 6: Hi, Hey, Chuck, Hey, when you had Brian on the phone,
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  Speaker 6: you should ask him if he could have sent down
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  Speaker 6: a sketch artist for your ash tray.
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  Speaker 1: You know what, I didn't even think about that they
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  Speaker 1: could have taken some fingerprints in my car.
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  Speaker 6: I thought nobody cares about your ashtray.
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  Speaker 8: Look at the.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought thought Zach was going to set up
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  Speaker 6: and GoFundMe account. I was ready to give you ten
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  Speaker 6: bucks for one.
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  Speaker 1: He actually did that. I can't believe he did it
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  Speaker 1: and put it up on Facebook. I told him to
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  Speaker 1: take that thing. I couldn't believe that.
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  Speaker 6: Well, hey, look, go on to bright Side, you'll get
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  Speaker 6: a new one.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well I stopping it one tonight. I just
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  Speaker 1: of all the things they could have done. And then
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  Speaker 1: did you hear the one guy call and say his
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  Speaker 1: neighbor over here Marble Cliffs you had somebody camp out in.
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  Speaker 6: Their car phone? Yeah? What Why in the world is
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  Speaker 6: going on with these people nowadays?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I just leaving your cell phone is
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  Speaker 1: one thing. Leaving your pants behind that's something else.
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  Speaker 6: Well, they probably took that chuck because they couldn't find
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  Speaker 6: nothing in your car. That's probably one.
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  Speaker 1: They had probably said something, Well you got anything on
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  Speaker 1: the stats?
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  Speaker 4: You ed?
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  Speaker 1: Because I want to get a couple more calls in
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  Speaker 1: here before I now everybody. Well, you have a great
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  Speaker 1: appreciate I appreciate you making me smile. Thanks very much.
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  Speaker 1: A two one w TV And is the number time
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  Speaker 1: you're on the Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone lines.
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  Speaker 3: Hi, yes, sir, how are you. I appreciate you're taking
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  Speaker 3: me call my call. I just wanted to chime in
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  Speaker 3: on the statue. Absolutely put it back and absolutely get
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  Speaker 3: rid of that Mayor.
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  Speaker 1: You don't sound like you you had to think about
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  Speaker 1: that very hard time.
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  Speaker 3: No, sir, I have been totally disappointed with him, and
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  Speaker 3: I don't know all in hell he has stayed in there,
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  Speaker 3: but he needs to get gone. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, his staying in there has a lot to do
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  Speaker 1: with the other side of the political fence. Until they mobilize,
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  Speaker 1: organize and decide that they're going to start fielding some candidates,
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  Speaker 1: backing some candidates, and getting some candidates elected, it will
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  Speaker 1: be continually of a Democrat run county.
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  Speaker 3: YEP. I agree with that, And I don't know why
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  Speaker 3: the Republicans haven't took this opportunity with Trump being back
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  Speaker 3: in office, to stand up at say less, ripe this ship,
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  Speaker 3: and get it selling down the right path, because look
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  Speaker 3: at Columbus since he's been mayor, look at look at
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  Speaker 3: at what's happened.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's a simple question what's better? What's better?
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  Speaker 1: Even comparing Democrats to Democrats between Michael Coleman as mayor
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  Speaker 1: and Andy ginthers mayor? What's better?
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  Speaker 3: So I would take Michael Bowman every day of the week,
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  Speaker 3: ran together.
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  Speaker 1: There there you go. I think a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: feel that way. Tom, thanks very much for the call. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if was it Reagan that said are you
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  Speaker 1: better off today than you were four years ago? The
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  Speaker 1: same thing applies. What's better? Crime better, streets better, what's been?
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  Speaker 1: If people honestly answered that question, I don't know that
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  Speaker 1: mister ginther would be running again in twenty twenty seven,
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  Speaker 1: but unfortunately he will likely run unopposed. Oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 1: it makes me ill just to say that.