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- 0:00SPEAKER_00: The Star Witness discusses real cases using publicly available information and astrological interpretation.
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- 0:29SPEAKER_01: In the middle of the night, on February 14th, 2000, nine-year-old Aisha Degree disappeared from her home in Shelby, North Carolina.
- 0:39SPEAKER_01: It was cold, dark, and storming out, and at some point before dawn, Aisha packed a backpack, she left her house, and she began walking alone on Highway 18.
- 0:51SPEAKER_01: Several drivers later reported seeing a young girl matching her description on the road that night.
- 0:57SPEAKER_01: One driver even turned around to check on her, but by the time he came back, she disappeared from view.
- 1:03SPEAKER_01: She was unfortunately never seen again.
- 1:07SPEAKER_01: Now more than twenty five years later, no one knows for certain where Aisha was trying to go.
- 1:12SPEAKER_01: What could have convinced a nine year old girl to leave her home in the middle of a storm and what happened to her after she was last seen on that highway?
- 1:21SPEAKER_01: This case has grown into one of the most haunting missing child mysteries in this country.
- 1:27SPEAKER_01: It's filled with strange clues, conflicting timelines, unusual evidence, and countless theories.
- 1:34SPEAKER_01: Tonight I want to look at two questions.
- 1:37SPEAKER_01: Why did Aisha leave her house that night?
- 1:40SPEAKER_01: And what happened to her after?
- 1:42SPEAKER_01: Let's ask the stars.
- 1:44SPEAKER_01: Every moment has a chart, every chart has a story.
- 1:49SPEAKER_01: This is the Star Witness.
- 2:07SPEAKER_01: Hello everybody.
- 2:09SPEAKER_01: Welcome to episode 2, where we will look into the strange disappearance of Aisha Degree.
- 2:15SPEAKER_01: I am your host, Macy Murdoch, and first I have something really quick to say.
- 2:21SPEAKER_01: I just want to say how grateful I am that so many of you listened to the first episode.
- 2:26SPEAKER_01: I am truly blown away by all the feedback and how many of you are interested in this astrology and true crime fusion.
- 2:34SPEAKER_01: And as always, I want to make each episode better and easy to understand.
- 2:38SPEAKER_01: So please always feel free to comment or send me feedback on what's working and what needs attention.
- 2:45SPEAKER_01: And I'm always up for suggestions on future cases to look at.
- 2:49SPEAKER_01: One of my goals here is to explain the astrology in a way where anyone can follow.
- 2:54SPEAKER_01: And I took your feedback and I think I was able to improve on that in this episode.
- 2:59SPEAKER_01: Now on with the show.
- 3:34SPEAKER_01: I originally learned about Aisha's case from Crime Weekly.
- 3:38SPEAKER_01: It's a podcast and YouTube show hosted by Stephanie Harlow and Derek Levasser.
- 3:45SPEAKER_01: They did a massive several part deep dive into the case.
- 3:49SPEAKER_01: They went through the timeline, all the evidence, and the different rabbit holes that people have gone down over the years.
- 3:55SPEAKER_01: They also discussed many theories surrounding her disappearance.
- 3:59SPEAKER_01: So I strongly recommend if you want all of the details on the case to listen to that series.
- 4:04SPEAKER_01: And that's what really pulled me into this mystery.
- 4:07SPEAKER_01: The more you learn about this case, the more questions seem to appear.
- 4:11SPEAKER_01: There are so many details that feel important, but more than 26 years later, we still do not know why she left her house and what happened to her after she disappeared.
- 4:22SPEAKER_01: Now let's talk about the case.
- 4:24SPEAKER_01: Aisha Degree was born on August 5th, 1990, in Shelby, North Carolina.
- 4:30SPEAKER_01: So she was a Leo.
- 4:32SPEAKER_01: By February of 2000, she was nine years old and in the fourth grade at Falston Elementary School.
- 4:39SPEAKER_01: Aisha lived in Shelby with her mom, Aquila, and her dad, Harold, and she also had an older brother named O'Brien.
- 4:48SPEAKER_01: He was only about 11 months older than Aisha, so the two of them were really close.
- 4:54SPEAKER_01: They grew up almost like twins.
- 4:56SPEAKER_01: They always played together and they played basketball together in a hoop in their driveway.
- 5:02SPEAKER_01: One of the things that Aisha's classmates really remembered about her was her hair, which is so Leo coated.
- 5:08SPEAKER_01: She was almost always wearing pigtails.
- 5:10SPEAKER_01: They remembered her as happy and lighthearted.
- 5:13SPEAKER_01: She liked making people laugh, and she made friends easily.
- 5:16SPEAKER_01: Although she was described as shy, she seems to be one of those kids who became more outgoing once she knew you.
- 5:23SPEAKER_01: And her world was centered around the people closest to her.
- 5:27SPEAKER_01: She went to school, she played basketball, she attended church with her family, and of course she spent a lot of time with her brother.
- 5:34SPEAKER_01: So the degrees were a close family, and Aisha's parents were also very protective of their kids.
- 5:41SPEAKER_01: I think this is really important to note if you remember exactly when this happened.
- 5:46SPEAKER_01: This was February of 2000, right as the internet was beginning to change everyone's childhoods around that time.
- 5:53SPEAKER_01: If you grew up around the 2000s, you probably remember AOL Instant Messenger, or as we called it, Ian.
- 6:01SPEAKER_01: You would sit down at the family computer, you would connect through a phone line and pick your screen name, and suddenly your friends could all talk to you without calling the house, which was huge then.
- 6:11SPEAKER_01: You also had a buddy list showing who was online with little chat windows popping up on the screen and away messages that were basically an early version of a social media status.
- 6:22SPEAKER_01: There was also chat rooms where people using screen names could talk to complete strangers about almost anything.
- 6:29SPEAKER_01: But the point is that Aisha did not have any of this at home.
- 6:33SPEAKER_01: There was no computer in the degree household and there were no cell phones either.
- 6:38SPEAKER_01: So while other children were beginning to experience this completely new way of communicating, Aisha's world was still largely made up of the people she actually knew.
- 6:48SPEAKER_01: And that became important after she disappeared because investigators did not have private messages to search.
- 6:55SPEAKER_01: They did not have a location history or a home computer that would show what she was looking at or talking to before she disappeared.
- 7:02SPEAKER_01: So whatever was happening in Aisha's life was much more likely to have come to the people and the places immediately around her.
- 7:10SPEAKER_01: Now let's go through the weekend before she vanished.
- 7:14SPEAKER_01: On Friday, February 11th, there was no school, so Aisha and O'Brien spent part of the day with relatives who lived nearby.
- 7:22SPEAKER_01: There was also cousins visiting in town, and Ais had basketball practice later that afternoon.
- 7:28SPEAKER_01: Basketball was a huge part of her life.
- 7:31SPEAKER_01: She played point guard for the Falston Elementary Bulldogs.
- 7:35SPEAKER_01: People who knew the team described her as one of their strongest players.
- 7:39SPEAKER_01: She was pretty competitive and she took the game seriously.
- 7:42SPEAKER_01: Then the next day, Saturday, on February 12th, Aisha and O'Brien both had basketball games at Burns Middle School.
- 7:50SPEAKER_01: Aisha's team had been undefeated until that day.
- 7:54SPEAKER_01: Late in the game, Aisha felled out.
- 7:56SPEAKER_01: She had to sit down while her teammates finished off without her, and the Bulldogs eventually lost by one point.
- 8:03SPEAKER_01: It was their first loss to the season, and Aisha was really upset about it.
- 8:08SPEAKER_01: Her mother and some of her teammates had to calm her down.
- 8:11SPEAKER_01: And this was much more than just like the casual disappointment of losing a game.
- 8:17SPEAKER_01: This loss really affected her, especially because she had been taken out of the game before it ended, so she felt really responsible for it.
- 8:25SPEAKER_01: By the time she watched her brother play after, people around her thought she seemed better.
- 8:30SPEAKER_01: Her family believed that by Sunday she had moved past the loss.
- 8:34SPEAKER_01: But we don't really know what was going on in her head.
- 8:37SPEAKER_01: We just know that she seemed better on the outside.
- 8:40SPEAKER_01: Then Saturday night, Aisha went to a sleepover at the home of her 15-year-old cousin.
- 8:46SPEAKER_01: Around a dozen cousins were there, and the kids stayed up late laughing and dancing.
- 8:51SPEAKER_01: They watched Soultrine and Showtime at the Apollo and copied the performers they saw on television.
- 8:57SPEAKER_01: By every account we have, Aisha seemed happy at the sleepover.
- 9:02SPEAKER_01: Nobody reported seeing her frightened or withdrawn or even upset, and really nothing obvious happened that made the adults around her think that something was wrong.
- 9:11SPEAKER_01: Aisha grew up in a very protected household, and now she was around older kids and a large group of cousins.
- 9:19SPEAKER_01: She was hearing their conversations and being exposed to whatever they were talking about.
- 9:24SPEAKER_01: And that doesn't mean anything sinister happened there.
- 9:27SPEAKER_01: I'm just saying that if something Aisha heard that weekend eventually gave her an idea that this is one of the places where her world became really big and she might have gotten some outside information.
- 9:39SPEAKER_01: The next morning was Sunday, February 13th.
- 9:42SPEAKER_01: Aisha went to church and Sunday school with her family and spent time there with her relatives after.
- 9:48SPEAKER_01: Nothing about the day apparently alarmed her parents.
- 9:51SPEAKER_01: By that evening, Aisha was exhausted.
- 9:54SPEAKER_01: I mean she stayed up late the night before at the sleepover, she was playing basketball, and spent Sunday with family.
- 10:01SPEAKER_01: According to accounts from her family, she went to sleep like really early, around 6 30 in the evening.
- 10:07SPEAKER_01: Then the weather got really bad.
- 10:09SPEAKER_01: A storm moved through the area with strong wind and lightning.
- 10:13SPEAKER_01: Now Aisha was afraid of the storms, and at one point she woke up and came out of bed to sit with her family while they watched television.
- 10:21SPEAKER_01: Then the power went out.
- 10:22SPEAKER_01: Aisha went back to her bedroom that she shared with her brother O'Brien.
- 10:26SPEAKER_01: At around 2 30 AM, her father went upstairs to check on his kids.
- 10:31SPEAKER_01: Aisha was still there, and she appeared to be asleep in her bed.
- 10:35SPEAKER_01: Four hours later, her mother entered the bedroom to wake the children for school, and Aisha's bed was empty.
- 10:42SPEAKER_01: Her backpack was gone.
- 10:44SPEAKER_01: So somewhere between her father's check at 2.30 and her mother entering the room around 6 30 AM, this cautious nine year old girl had gotten out of bed and left the house without waking her family.
- 10:57SPEAKER_01: She walked out in the same dark, stormy night that frightened her only hours earlier.
- 11:03SPEAKER_01: Her father called 911 and reported his daughter missing.
- 11:08SPEAKER_01: Officers arrived within minutes.
- 11:10SPEAKER_01: They searched the house and the surrounding area.
- 11:12SPEAKER_01: There were no signs of force entry, and nothing immediately suggesting that somebody had entered the home and taken Aisha.
- 11:20SPEAKER_01: Several dogs were brought in, but investigators were unable to establish a useful scent trail from her house.
- 11:27SPEAKER_01: I mean it was raining out, so it probably washed out that evidence.
- 11:31SPEAKER_01: The search quickly spread through the neighborhood.
- 11:33SPEAKER_01: Family members and police officers, firefighters and volunteers began looking through the surrounding area.
- 11:40SPEAKER_01: Then investigators started hearing something that completely changed the case.
- 11:45SPEAKER_01: Drivers have said that they saw a little girl walking alone along Highway 18 hours earlier.
- 11:52SPEAKER_01: One of the sightings was around 3 30 in the morning, and another one happened closer to 4 AM.
- 11:59SPEAKER_01: She was more than a mile from her house and she was carrying a backpack.
- 12:03SPEAKER_01: One of the drivers became concerned enough that he turned the vehicle around several times to check on her.
- 12:09SPEAKER_01: When he approached again, she left the road and headed toward the trees.
- 12:14SPEAKER_01: This is becoming a really big mystery.
- 12:16SPEAKER_01: Where was she trying to go?
- 12:18SPEAKER_01: And this is important because only a few hundred feet from the stretch of the highway where she was seen, there was a property around there that would soon become one of the strangest locations in this entire case.
- 12:31SPEAKER_01: That property belonged to the Turner family who operated an upholstery business there.
- 12:36SPEAKER_01: Behind the business was an old shed where furniture and equipment were stored.
- 12:41SPEAKER_01: When the Turners checked the property during the search, several small objects were discovered around the shed.
- 12:47SPEAKER_01: There was a green marker, there was a pencil from the 1996 Atlanta Olympics, there was a small yellow hairbow.
- 12:57SPEAKER_01: There were some candy wrappers of candy that we know that she liked.
- 13:01SPEAKER_01: And there was also a wallet-sized photograph of another little girl.
- 13:05SPEAKER_01: Aisha's family recognized some of these objects that were found, but the photograph was different because they did not recognize the girl in this photograph.
- 13:14SPEAKER_01: And that's another mystery inside the mystery, another rabbit hole.
- 13:18SPEAKER_01: Who was this child and why was her picture there?
- 13:21SPEAKER_01: Did it have anything to do with Aisha at all?
- 13:24SPEAKER_01: Searches continued through the surrounding countryside.
- 13:28SPEAKER_01: People walked through the fields, woods, and ditches and abandoned areas.
- 13:32SPEAKER_01: Investigators followed a lot of tips, but Aisha was not found.
- 13:37SPEAKER_01: The police determined that her book bag and some of her belongings were missing from the house.
- 13:43SPEAKER_01: This led investigators to believe that she packed before she left.
- 13:47SPEAKER_01: But some point Aisha decided that she wanted to bring some things with her and put them in a bag.
- 13:53SPEAKER_01: So wherever she disappeared to, there appeared to be some preparation behind it.
- 13:58SPEAKER_01: Then the case went quiet.
- 14:00SPEAKER_01: Months passed.
- 14:01SPEAKER_01: Aisha's family kept looking.
- 14:03SPEAKER_01: Her photographs appeared on billboards and television programs, and investigators continued following leads.
- 14:10SPEAKER_01: Then almost 18 months after Aisha disappeared, something belonging to her suddenly appeared twenty six miles away.
- 14:18SPEAKER_01: On august third, two thousand one, a construction worker was clearing land along Highway 18 when he uncovered a backpack, which was Aisha's.
- 14:28SPEAKER_01: The backpack had been wrapped inside two black trash bags before it ended up there.
- 14:34SPEAKER_01: Inside the backpack were belongings connected to Aisha, including her basketball uniform.
- 14:40SPEAKER_01: There was also a new kids on the block shirt in the bag that Aisha's family said was not hers.
- 14:46SPEAKER_01: There was also a copy of the Dr.
- 14:47SPEAKER_01: Seuss's book, McAligat's Pool.
- 14:50SPEAKER_01: This book belonged to a library at Aisha's elementary school, but investigators could not establish that Aisha herself had checked it out.
- 14:59SPEAKER_01: So Aisha's backpack had disappeared with her in February 2000.
- 15:03SPEAKER_01: Almost a year and a half later, it turns up miles away from Shelby, wrapped up twice in plastic and containing objects that apparently did not belong to her.
- 15:13SPEAKER_01: Investigators searched the area where the backpack was found.
- 15:16SPEAKER_01: Aisha was not there, and we still don't know what happened to her after she reached that area along Highway 18.
- 15:24SPEAKER_01: How did her backpack end up 26 miles away?
- 15:27SPEAKER_01: Who wrapped it?
- 15:29SPEAKER_01: And this is where the known story stops.
- 15:31SPEAKER_01: And that is where I'm gonna start looking at the charts.
- 15:35SPEAKER_01: Part two Acia Decree Astrology Reading.
- 15:39SPEAKER_01: Now let's learn more about Aisha.
- 15:42SPEAKER_01: We're gonna look deeper into her energy and read her birth chart.
- 15:47SPEAKER_01: So right now I'm logging in to Astro-Seek.com and I'm putting in Aisha's birthday, which is August 5th, 1990, in Shelby, North Carolina.
- 15:59SPEAKER_01: If you want to see the chart as I'm speaking, you can go on YouTube where the charts are available.
- 16:04SPEAKER_01: We don't have a birth time, but we can still get a lot of information from her birthday alone.
- 16:10SPEAKER_01: But immediately jumps out to me that Aisha has a Leo sun at 12 degrees and it is conjunctor south node.
- 16:19SPEAKER_01: So let's break all of this down and what it means.
- 16:22SPEAKER_01: First off, when someone's a Leo, I consider Leo to be a spotlight.
- 16:27SPEAKER_01: That doesn't mean that all eyes are on them, although in many cases it does.
- 16:32SPEAKER_01: But when someone is a Leo, it's like they're holding a spotlight that is naturally on them, but they do have the ability to pass it around.
- 16:40SPEAKER_01: Either way, there's something really natural about them being seen.
- 16:45SPEAKER_01: They have an ego, and it's not in a bad way.
- 16:48SPEAKER_01: They just know who they are.
- 16:50SPEAKER_01: They have a strong sense of who they are, and they want to contribute something to the world that's very uniquely them.
- 16:57SPEAKER_01: There's often like a real sense of pride attached to doing something well.
- 17:01SPEAKER_01: Leos really, really hate letting people down, I would say.
- 17:05SPEAKER_01: And this is immediately making me think about basketball.
- 17:09SPEAKER_01: Aisha was one of the star players, which is very Leo, and she was also extremely competitive.
- 17:15SPEAKER_01: When she felled out of the game and her team eventually lost, she got really upset where her mother and teammates had to calm her down.
- 17:24SPEAKER_01: And that's very, very Leo, where you can be completely shy and sweet and happy and funny, but when you feel like you did something that let people down, your ego gets hurt and you can get really, really upset.
- 17:38SPEAKER_01: I mean, someone who's shy isn't going to be the kind of person who cries and has a meltdown in public.
- 17:44SPEAKER_01: But for a Leo, they're more likely to if they feel like their ego was struck.
- 17:49SPEAKER_01: If Aisha felt like she left her team down, I could see it hitting her much harder than the adults around her realize.
- 17:57SPEAKER_01: Because it was something that she really cared about and something she wanted to be good at.
- 18:02SPEAKER_01: And her classmates describe her as happy and funny, that she was likable and she made friends easily, that she's warm and she had a presence that people noticed even though she was described as shy.
- 18:14SPEAKER_01: Leo isn't always about being the star of the show, but it's about being noticed even if you are quiet and shy.
- 18:21SPEAKER_01: Remember that Leo is represented by the lion, so everyone in the jungle knows that the lion is there, even if the lion is just laying down sleeping.
- 18:30SPEAKER_01: Or what if the lion is sitting in the cave for two days being by itself?
- 18:34SPEAKER_01: Everyone in the jungle still knows the lion's there because the lion holds a spotlight.
- 18:39SPEAKER_01: And the same thing goes for Leo energy.
- 18:41SPEAKER_01: And with Aisha being shy, she probably did shine that spotlight on other people when they approached her and made friends really easily.
- 18:50SPEAKER_01: Now, also let's bring up the fact that her Leo sun is at 12 degrees.
- 18:55SPEAKER_01: So when any placement is at 12 degrees, it's gonna put a Pisces edge to it.
- 19:00SPEAKER_01: And Pisces is very different than Leo.
- 19:03SPEAKER_01: So with Aisha, we don't really know all the time where she would shine this bright spotlight that she had.
- 19:09SPEAKER_01: It could be on herself at times, it could be on whatever she felt was important, could have been on her friends, and at 12 degrees, it really could have gone anywhere or anything.
- 19:18SPEAKER_01: It's gonna put a way more intuitive and imaginative quality to how she presents herself and where she wants her energy to go.
- 19:27SPEAKER_01: So I think Isha wanted to express herself fully and be recognized for who she was, but there is definitely a much stronger layer of sensitivity underneath it all that people would realize.
- 19:40SPEAKER_01: And there's also a very thoughtful and observant quality to her personality.
- 19:45SPEAKER_01: Even though she was just a little child, I think she spent a lot of time processing experiences in her head and replaying things in her mind and forming like her own little understanding of everything happening around her.
- 19:57SPEAKER_01: There's also something that feels a little self-contained about her son.
- 20:01SPEAKER_01: She's someone who learns by watching, remembering, and reflecting things.
- 20:06SPEAKER_01: Usually when you hear a Leo's son, the stereotype is they're loud or they talk a lot.
- 20:13SPEAKER_01: But with Aisha, it's very reflective, intuitive, and watching with the spotlight.
- 20:19SPEAKER_01: Of course, it would go on her at times, but she would also shine it on other people.
- 20:24SPEAKER_01: Now let's talk about the fact that her south node is sitting with her son.
- 20:29SPEAKER_01: The south node describes the part of someone that feels really developed already and really easy, something that's familiar.
- 20:38SPEAKER_01: So since Aisher's was in Leo and sitting with her son, she was born already mastering Leo energy.
- 20:46SPEAKER_01: So probably in a past life, she learned how to be a star.
- 20:50SPEAKER_01: She knew what it felt like to be noticed, celebrated, and special and talented, and in the center of attention.
- 20:57SPEAKER_01: There's this feeling where her being seen and recognized was tied very closely to who she was.
- 21:04SPEAKER_01: But in this life, she was meant to step away from that.
- 21:07SPEAKER_01: Her north node, which is kind of like what you're picking up in this life, sits in Aquarius.
- 21:13SPEAKER_01: And that becomes the direction of the growth she's supposed to make in this lifetime.
- 21:18SPEAKER_01: Her path was about gradually moving away from needing to be the central figure and towards something larger than herself.
- 21:26SPEAKER_01: Aquarius is about the group, community, friendships, and teams and contributing to something without always needing to be recognized for it.
- 21:35SPEAKER_01: Aisha was born with strong Leo energy already inside her, but her life purpose was pointing her towards learning how to be part of a group while still remaining fully herself.
- 21:46SPEAKER_01: But it's like she already knew how to shine, but she was learning what it meant to shine as part of something bigger than her.
- 21:54SPEAKER_01: The second thing that really stands out to me about Asia's chart is her moon.
- 22:00SPEAKER_01: Now, because we don't have a confirmed birth time, her moon is either going to be in Capricorn or Aquarius.
- 22:07SPEAKER_01: But what's really interesting here is that both Capricorn and Aquarius is ruled by the planet of Saturn.
- 22:13SPEAKER_01: So either way, there's going to be a Saturn quality underneath everything you see and ruling her emotional life.
- 22:20SPEAKER_01: Because that's what your moon sign is.
- 22:22SPEAKER_01: Your moon sign is going to rule who you really are deep down, underneath the spotlight, underneath your team.
- 22:30SPEAKER_01: What does she need to be happy?
- 22:32SPEAKER_01: And since Saturn is ruling her moon, the qualities of Saturn become important to what she needed to be happy.
- 22:40SPEAKER_01: And Saturn is all about responsibility and making things harder to get you to work harder.
- 22:46SPEAKER_01: That's very different from her Leo Sun.
- 22:49SPEAKER_01: Her Leo son gave us the child people remembered as funny and likable and warm, and there's that desire to do well and feel proud of herself.
- 22:57SPEAKER_01: But underneath that, her Saturn rolled moon shows that she was way more serious deep down.
- 23:03SPEAKER_01: She probably felt responsible for her own emotions very early in life.
- 23:09SPEAKER_01: If she ever disappointed someone, she noticed and took it personally.
- 23:13SPEAKER_01: If she made a mistake, even when she was little, she noticed and really felt it.
- 23:19SPEAKER_01: I feel like she's the kind of girl who tried to put things together and to make things right instead of making her problems everybody else's problems.
- 23:29SPEAKER_01: There's something very mature emotionally about her as a child.
- 23:33SPEAKER_01: There's something that Aisha's mother said that really made this placement click for me.
- 23:37SPEAKER_01: She said Aisha never wanted anybody mad at her, and she always wanted everybody to be happy.
- 23:44SPEAKER_01: That is so Saturn moon.
- 23:46SPEAKER_01: It tells me that Aisha was a lot harder on herself than people realized.
- 23:51SPEAKER_01: When something went wrong, she probably just didn't feel like this is a bad moment and this too would pass.
- 23:57SPEAKER_01: She would have immediately wondered if she disappointed someone and what she needed to do to make things better.
- 24:03SPEAKER_01: Children with Saturn ruled moons have an emotional makeup that makes them seem older than they really are.
- 24:10SPEAKER_01: Adults tend to trust them earlier because they seem sensible and responsible, and the child gets praise for being mature, and they eventually become the one who holds it all together.
- 24:22SPEAKER_01: And that's what they're known for, the person who can hold it all together when they grow up.
- 24:26SPEAKER_01: Aisha genuinely was happy and funny and playful, but underneath that she had these feelings that she needed to protect people from her own feelings.
- 24:36SPEAKER_01: So if she felt something that was bugging her, she's the kind of person who would put it aside and deal with it later so she didn't burden other people with her problems.
- 24:46SPEAKER_01: I think that's really revealing about her because the version of Aisha that we saw didn't necessarily tell you everything that she was feeling deep down.
- 24:55SPEAKER_01: I think she understood very young how to look like things were okay before she actually felt okay.
- 25:01SPEAKER_01: The third big thing I'm noticing from her chart is I think Aisha felt very different than other millennials when it came to just the pop culture and everything of life and technology.
- 25:12SPEAKER_01: Because what I'm seeing here is a cluster of three planets, Uranus, Neptune, and Saturn, all in Capricorn together.
- 25:21SPEAKER_01: This little cluster is describing something very specific about the time Acia was growing up.
- 25:27SPEAKER_01: Even though we know Aisha as forever a nine-year-old girl, she was a millennial.
- 25:32SPEAKER_01: Her generation was growing up at the exact moment that the world started to open up through technology.
- 25:39SPEAKER_01: Home computers were a thing by then.
- 25:41SPEAKER_01: The internet was in everyone's homes.
- 25:44SPEAKER_01: Kids were discovering email and chat rooms, and popular culture felt much more accessible because there were even more ways to see what other kids were watching and doing.
- 25:54SPEAKER_01: So when you see Uranus and Neptune and Capricorn cluster together, that's a generational marker of kids who grew up watching the old structure of everyday life get upgraded right in front of them.
- 26:07SPEAKER_01: But what makes Aisha a little different from many other millennials is that her Saturn placement was sitting in Capricorn in this same section of her chart, and all three planets were in retrograde when she was born.
- 26:20SPEAKER_01: Seeing this, I'm feeling like Aisha experienced the changing world differently than some of the other kids around her.
- 26:28SPEAKER_01: We know her family didn't have a computer at home, she wasn't in the chat rooms, and her parents were deliberately protective about outside influences.
- 26:38SPEAKER_01: And that doesn't mean she was unhappy about it or anything, but what interests me is the possibility is that she was very aware that there was a larger world outside of the boundaries she lived within, and she might have felt limited by it in a way.
- 26:53SPEAKER_01: But also I think that really sharpened her for who she was.
- 26:57SPEAKER_01: Other kids were having access to things that she didn't have at home, like someone could have been online or watched a music video that she hasn't seen, or there were trends going on that she wasn't able to fully grasp.
- 27:09SPEAKER_01: And when you're nine years old, those differences really feel enormous.
- 27:14SPEAKER_01: Acia was born into a generation whose world was expanding at incredible speed while her own world still had very firm boundaries around it.
- 27:23SPEAKER_01: I feel like over all of that, she really learned how to get really good at the things around her.
- 27:30SPEAKER_01: That's also making me think that the new kids on the block shirt that they found in her backpack was not hers.
- 27:36SPEAKER_01: Honestly, I don't think she probably was allowed to even listen to them, let alone wear their merchandise.
- 27:43SPEAKER_01: Because at the time in the 2000s, they were like this really hot boy band from the late 80s, early 90s, I think.
- 27:52SPEAKER_01: They were edgy, like an edgy boy band shaking their hips.
- 27:55SPEAKER_01: I can't imagine a strict household allowing a young girl to listen to music like that.
- 28:01SPEAKER_01: I could be wrong, but I believe Aisha's parents when they said that that shirt wasn't hers.
- 28:06SPEAKER_01: The next thing I'm really noticing about her chart, she has something called a grand earth shrine.
- 28:12SPEAKER_01: What I'm seeing as I'm looking at her chart here is that there is this perfectly equilateral triangle in her chart connecting three different planets.
- 28:22SPEAKER_01: In astrology, we call it a grand shrine, and Acia has all three of these placements in Earth Science.
- 28:29SPEAKER_01: When someone has a grand earth shrine, this is gonna make them a very practical person, highly intelligent, and knows how to get things done, meaning they're very street smart.
- 28:41SPEAKER_01: I feel like Aisha had the ability to understand how things worked really well.
- 28:46SPEAKER_01: She could just master things anything she wanted to.
- 28:49SPEAKER_01: She could figure out anything that she needed to.
- 28:52SPEAKER_01: And I think the fact that she was limited in her technology didn't stop her from learning what she needed to do.
- 29:00SPEAKER_01: As she grew, this sense of figuring things out would get stronger and stronger.
- 29:05SPEAKER_01: If she needed to make money in the future, she would have been able to without a problem.
- 29:09SPEAKER_01: She could figure out the steps to anything and remember what's needed and follow through.
- 29:14SPEAKER_01: There was probably also this strong independence streak because once she decided that something made sense, she's gonna trust her own judgment and put a plan into motion.
- 29:24SPEAKER_01: This is making me think that she put a lot of care into getting ready to do things.
- 29:29SPEAKER_01: This is making me think about what the investigators discovered after Aisha disappeared.
- 29:34SPEAKER_01: Her backpack was gone, and investigators believed that she packed it before she left.
- 29:40SPEAKER_01: They even said that the contents looked like something a child would pack for herself.
- 29:44SPEAKER_01: Now that I see that she has this grand earth shrine, I'm looking at it even closer.
- 29:50SPEAKER_01: Because even though she was only nine, she was super organized when she decided she needed to do something.
- 29:57SPEAKER_01: Her Mercury placement, which represents how she thinks and speaks, that's in Virgo.
- 30:04SPEAKER_01: So she's thinking through the details of everything and not missing a beat.
- 30:08SPEAKER_01: Then she has her Mars and Taurus, which shows that when she wants to do something, she does it slow, steady, and right.
- 30:16SPEAKER_01: Then she has that cluster of Capricorn placements, which really makes her understand preparation and structure.
- 30:23SPEAKER_01: I feel like Isha was actually really stubborn.
- 30:26SPEAKER_01: When you have a lot of Earth energy in your chart, you don't just change direction easily once you became committed to something.
- 30:33SPEAKER_01: If Aisha believed that she had a reason to do something, she would have been much more determined about it than the adults around her would have guessed.
- 30:42SPEAKER_01: That makes me think that if she was last seen by her dad at 2 30 a.m., but she was spotted on the highway at 4, she left probably closer to 4 than 2.30 because once she woke up from her sleep, she probably packed really slowly and carefully.
- 31:00SPEAKER_01: When your Mars is in Taurus, especially at zero degrees, you move slow and steady.
- 31:06SPEAKER_01: You don't rush things and you are really thorough.
- 31:11SPEAKER_01: And Aisha was definitely street smart and very book smart.
- 31:15SPEAKER_01: She was the girl who wasn't in the chat rooms and she wasn't corrupted by Nickelodeon, and she was really able to reap the benefits from that.
- 31:23SPEAKER_01: Another thing that really stands out to me about Aisha's chart is she has her Mars placement opposing Pluto.
- 31:31SPEAKER_01: Let's talk about what this means.
- 31:33SPEAKER_01: Because Mars is gonna describe how somebody takes action and does things.
- 31:37SPEAKER_01: And as we established, her Mars is in Taurus, which means that she does not rush through things.
- 31:43SPEAKER_01: She moves carefully and deliberately.
- 31:46SPEAKER_01: Once someone with this placement decides they're gonna do something, they keep going even when it becomes uncomfortable or difficult.
- 31:54SPEAKER_01: That tells me that Aisha was the type to really stay composed before becoming suddenly determined.
- 32:01SPEAKER_01: Someone with this aspect of Mars opposing Pluto might seem calm for a really long time, but when something matters enough to them, their entire energy changes.
- 32:12SPEAKER_01: They stop becoming passive, like a Mars and Taurus would, and get really focused on what they believe they need to do.
- 32:20SPEAKER_01: And also with this aspect, losing something will hit them really badly.
- 32:24SPEAKER_01: A setback can feel like something needs to be corrected rather than simply accepted.
- 32:29SPEAKER_01: For Aisha, that tells me that she took winning, succeeding, and proving herself way more seriously than people realized.
- 32:38SPEAKER_01: Another thing that says about Aisha is how much emotion can stay underneath the surface.
- 32:43SPEAKER_01: She probably held in anger and frustration rather than showing it immediately.
- 32:49SPEAKER_01: She had the ability to look perfectly controlled, but while feeling something really strongly inside, I would not assume that what people saw on the outside always matched the intensity of what was going on in her head.
- 33:01SPEAKER_01: She had crisis endurance.
- 33:03SPEAKER_01: She was able to keep functioning when circumstances became difficult.
- 33:08SPEAKER_01: And once something serious is happening, she would get really focused and really composed.
- 33:13SPEAKER_01: Also, I bet that Aisha had sheer determination.
- 33:17SPEAKER_01: Mars opposite Pluto is one of those aspects that can make someone incredibly hard to stop once they decided on a goal.
- 33:24SPEAKER_01: They can keep going, even if the situation becomes like really uncomfortable or complicated or frightening.
- 33:31SPEAKER_01: And with Aisha, that seems to fit the picture of a child who has committed herself into doing something and continued forward much longer than most people would expect for someone her age.
- 33:43SPEAKER_01: And that feels really irrelevant.
- 33:45SPEAKER_01: Let me look at what Aisha actually did the night she disappeared.
- 33:48SPEAKER_01: She was scared of the rain.
- 33:50SPEAKER_01: But wherever she was going, the rain did not stop her.
- 33:54SPEAKER_01: One person even stopped to help her, but when she noticed that she was spotted, she disappeared into the woods.
- 34:00SPEAKER_01: And this is all in the middle of the night, close to early morning, in a storm that she was afraid of.
- 34:06SPEAKER_01: And that is a lot of determination for a nine-year-old.
- 34:09SPEAKER_01: Being outside in the middle of the night, she had already traveled a significant distance.
- 34:14SPEAKER_01: A stranger turning around toward her did not apparently make her abandon whatever she was doing and go home.
- 34:21SPEAKER_01: Instead, she moved away from the road, kept herself out of sight, and maybe even kept going.
- 34:26SPEAKER_01: This is also making me think that when Aisha left the house that night for whatever reason, she was capable of escaping and getting away with things.
- 34:35SPEAKER_01: The thing is is when you have a grander of trine, you're very street smart.
- 34:40SPEAKER_01: You know how to get to where you're going to go.
- 34:42SPEAKER_01: You can master your plan.
- 34:44SPEAKER_01: You can do what you need to do, and even if something comes out to block you, you can get around it.
- 34:51SPEAKER_01: And that's how I see Asia from her chart.
- 34:54SPEAKER_01: She was a well-liked, warm and funny little girl who carried this natural spotlight and used her intuition on where to shine it.
- 35:02SPEAKER_01: Deep down she was really structured and she had her own way of handling her emotions.
- 35:07SPEAKER_01: She cared very much about the people around her.
- 35:10SPEAKER_01: Her life purpose was learning about how to belong to a team and taking that natural spotlight she holds and shining it on the bigger picture.
- 35:19SPEAKER_01: She was very smart and street smart.
- 35:22SPEAKER_01: She was fiercely determined, and once she made a decision, nothing, and I mean nothing, would stop her.
- 35:29SPEAKER_01: The needle chart only tells us about Aisha.
- 35:32SPEAKER_01: Now I want to move into the chart of the night that she disappeared.
- 35:36SPEAKER_01: Part three.
- 35:38SPEAKER_01: The forensic event chart.
- 35:41SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 35:42SPEAKER_01: Now as we are speaking, I'm putting into AstroSeq a chart for Jebruary 14th, 2000 at 6 39 AM.
- 35:52SPEAKER_01: All of the other timestamps associated with this case were a bit vague.
- 35:57SPEAKER_01: I do like using a last scene chart, which in this case it's 2.30 a.m.
- 36:03SPEAKER_01: when Harold checked on Aisha and saw her sleeping in the bed.
- 36:06SPEAKER_01: But the problem is that this time is approximate.
- 36:09SPEAKER_01: It could have been 2.20 a.m.
- 36:11SPEAKER_01: or 2.40 a.m.
- 36:13SPEAKER_01: And in astrology, even a minute or two can change the way the charts are divided.
- 36:18SPEAKER_01: Also, I use degrees in the chart to analyze events, so it's really important that we have accurate degrees in this chart.
- 36:26SPEAKER_01: I'm going to use the 911 chart because that's our strongest exact event timestamp.
- 36:32SPEAKER_01: The published transcript says this call was placed at 6.39 a.m.
- 36:37SPEAKER_01: and it lasted approximately 2 minutes and 40 seconds.
- 36:41SPEAKER_01: It's loading now, and I'm going to put this into YouTube in case if you want to see it in real time as I talk about it.
- 36:48SPEAKER_01: It's still just an audio show there, but the charts are in the background if you want to follow along visually.
- 36:54SPEAKER_01: Alright, I got this chart up and it has an Aquarius rising, an Aquarius sun, and a Gemini moon.
- 37:02SPEAKER_01: Right away I'm seeing a lot of clues.
- 37:05SPEAKER_01: But first I want to talk about a few things that are standing out to me right now before I even deep dive.
- 37:11SPEAKER_01: First, let's talk about how this chart has an Aquarius rising at 11 degrees.
- 37:16SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you're gonna find this in astrology textbooks.
- 37:20SPEAKER_01: It's more like lore from people who read a lot of charts in general, but 11 degrees of any sign, especially those in crime charts, show an element of doing something that you might think is the right thing to do, but it's actually harmful to yourselves.
- 37:36SPEAKER_01: And in degree theory, 11 degrees puts Aquarius themes on whatever sign it represents.
- 37:43SPEAKER_01: Since this sign is already an Aquarius, it's really highlighting these themes.
- 37:48SPEAKER_01: Aquarius in crime charts usually points to something sudden, unusual, rebellious, or outside of the expected pattern.
- 37:57SPEAKER_01: It describes like a break from the routine, maybe a shocking decision, involvement with groups or communities, or a situation where someone's going to act very differently than what people would normally expect from them.
- 38:11SPEAKER_01: And that's the energy that's ruling Asia.
- 38:13SPEAKER_01: She did something rebellious and unexpected.
- 38:16SPEAKER_01: So we know that right off the bat.
- 38:18SPEAKER_01: Also, there are two planets that rule Aquarius.
- 38:21SPEAKER_01: These two planets are really going to tell the Aquarius energy what to do.
- 38:25SPEAKER_01: It's like they're the boss.
- 38:26SPEAKER_01: And these planets are Uranus and Saturn.
- 38:29SPEAKER_01: These planets location in the charts will tell me a lot more about the story, but for now, what's really standing out is Uranus is in the first section of the chart that represents Aisha herself.
- 38:41SPEAKER_01: Forensic astrology rules is that when the ruling planet with a rising sign is in the first section, that the victim made all the shocking decisions themselves.
- 38:52SPEAKER_01: So what I can confidently say about this immediately is that Aisha made the decision to leave the house on her own.
- 39:00SPEAKER_01: I don't think she was abducted.
- 39:02SPEAKER_01: I don't think she was kidnapped from her house.
- 39:04SPEAKER_01: I think she woke up in the middle of the night or super early in the morning and made a shocking and maybe even unplanned decision to leave her house.
- 39:13SPEAKER_01: Since this is in Aquarius and Aquarius themes are highlighted over and over, we could say that the reason she left was for a very Aquarius themed reason, for the purpose to benefit a group of people or some friends.
- 39:28SPEAKER_01: So that's really the first thing that stands out to me before I deep dive.
- 39:32SPEAKER_01: Oh wait, there's some more things I want to point out immediately.
- 39:35SPEAKER_01: The next thing that's really standing out for me in this chart is that we have Pluto all the way on the top in the 10th section, and it's conjunct or really close to the asteroid Chiron.
- 39:45SPEAKER_01: Pluto is the planet that's gonna represent what about this case was controlled.
- 39:50SPEAKER_01: It's the highest planet on the chart, and it's in the 10th section, which is really gonna tell us the public narrative of the case.
- 39:58SPEAKER_01: This is the story that everyone sees, the official version.
- 40:02SPEAKER_01: It's what gets repeated in the media by investigators and eventually by the public.
- 40:07SPEAKER_01: What I'm seeing immediately by looking at the event chart is that the public narrative of this case was controlled.
- 40:14SPEAKER_01: Acia's disappearance is one of those cases where the public story has always felt very fixed.
- 40:21SPEAKER_01: She packed a bag, she left, she was seen walking alone, and then she vanished.
- 40:26SPEAKER_01: Pluto right here in the tenth is making me question how complete that story really is.
- 40:33SPEAKER_01: So immediately I'm looking at this and I'm thinking that the public narrative of this case was controlled.
- 40:39SPEAKER_01: It could mean that important information was withheld, that maybe certain details were emphasized while others were minimized, or that the version of events that the public know were shaped by people who had more information than everyone else.
- 40:54SPEAKER_01: I also mentioned that Pluto is connected to the asteroid Chiron.
- 40:58SPEAKER_01: The asteroid Chiron represents a wound.
- 41:01SPEAKER_01: So this case was controlled because it would wound someone if the truth was revealed.
- 41:08SPEAKER_01: Because this conjunction is in Sagittarius, I think that this wound is connected to beliefs or the way someone wanted to be seen as a good and respectable person.
- 41:19SPEAKER_01: Sagittarius is very concerned with the truth, but it is also concerned with the story we build around what is right and wrong.
- 41:27SPEAKER_01: I immediately think that the truth really threatened someone's moral image, their standing in their community, and their reputation.
- 41:38SPEAKER_01: It just looks like here that the truth of what happened to Aisha had some consequences for another person.
- 41:45SPEAKER_01: To get more information on that, I'm gonna look at the planet Jupiter because the planet Jupiter is what rules Sagittarius.
- 41:52SPEAKER_01: And I'm looking down, I see Jupiter in Aries at 29 degrees in the second section of the chart.
- 42:01SPEAKER_01: Now, whenever you see 29 degrees of any planet, you're gonna stop for a second and be like, whoa, this is critical.
- 42:09SPEAKER_01: It's the very end of a sign, and there's pressure here.
- 42:13SPEAKER_01: Something has reached a point where it cannot keep going the same way.
- 42:17SPEAKER_01: It feels urgent, and it feels like there is very little room left to correct the situation before something changes completely.
- 42:26SPEAKER_01: Jupiter here is also an Aries.
- 42:28SPEAKER_01: So whatever was going on about the controlling of the narrative of what happened was a very quick decision.
- 42:35SPEAKER_01: Aries reacts first, protects first, it acts very quick, and it does something before there's really time to sit around and think through all the consequences.
- 42:46SPEAKER_01: I'm thinking right now about Aries at the 29th degree, and this is really interesting because the image associated with this degree is a bunch of ducks.
- 42:56SPEAKER_01: You have a mother duck with her chick saw swimming behind her, and that's kind of the symbolism we're getting behind why was this controlled?
- 43:04SPEAKER_01: And I'm immediately with this image thinking about protection, keeping the kids together, making sure that nobody gets separated from the group.
- 43:12SPEAKER_01: There's this instinct of circling around the vulnerable ones and keeping them inside the family unit.
- 43:19SPEAKER_01: This could be a pretty big clue here.
- 43:21SPEAKER_01: Like, was the narrative controlled to protect a family?
- 43:24SPEAKER_01: Was a parent protecting their child?
- 43:26SPEAKER_01: Let's keep note of that and let's keep looking.
- 43:30SPEAKER_01: What I'm wondering next is what did someone else want to gain, protect, keep, recover, or avoid losing?
- 43:38SPEAKER_01: To answer this question, we're gonna look at the second section of this chart, which is really gonna be the house of the motive.
- 43:46SPEAKER_01: In natal chart readings, when I read someone's personal chart, the second section is gonna talk about their money and their belongings and what they value.
- 43:55SPEAKER_01: But when we look at this in crime charts, it's really gonna show the motive.
- 44:00SPEAKER_01: Motive usually comes back to value in some form.
- 44:04SPEAKER_01: Sometimes the motive of the crime is money, property, status, or self-preservation.
- 44:09SPEAKER_01: Sometimes it's somebody protecting the way they see themselves or other people see them.
- 44:14SPEAKER_01: What's really interesting about this chart is that even though the second section is active, at the same time it's buried.
- 44:23SPEAKER_01: In astrology, we consider this term to be called intercepted, meaning this section starts in Pisces and it ends in Taurus, meaning that the entire sign of Aries is kind of buried inside this section.
- 44:38SPEAKER_01: I think that this section of the chart was weak.
- 44:41SPEAKER_01: The motive of this crime was weak.
- 44:44SPEAKER_01: What I'm saying is I don't think that there was a motive for this crime.
- 44:48SPEAKER_01: I am actually thinking that the crime was not nefarious in action.
- 44:53SPEAKER_01: I think what happened to Aisha was actually an accident.
- 44:57SPEAKER_01: So I think that she left on her own, then an accident happened after she left her house, and I suspect that the accident was covered up.
- 45:07SPEAKER_01: Let's look into this even deeper.
- 45:10SPEAKER_01: I have two big questions about the case.
- 45:13SPEAKER_01: One, I want to know why Isha left her house, and two, I want to know what happened to her after she left the house.
- 45:22SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna take this crime chart from the 911 call and I'm gonna read it in two different ways.
- 45:28SPEAKER_01: First, we're gonna use it to answer the question, why did Aisha leave her house?
- 45:33SPEAKER_01: Then I'm gonna reset all of our notes from this after we get our answer.
- 45:38SPEAKER_01: Look at the chart with a clean slate, and I'm gonna ask the chart, what happened to her that night?
- 45:44SPEAKER_01: Let's start by asking why did Isha leave her house that night?
- 45:48SPEAKER_01: We are gonna look at the rising sign and the whole section of the chart it sits in, which we call the first house, or in crime astrology, I call it the first section.
- 45:57SPEAKER_01: In forensic astrology, this section almost always is gonna represent the victim or the person who disappeared or the main subject of the event.
- 46:07SPEAKER_01: As we see here, the sign that's rising is in Aquarius.
- 46:11SPEAKER_01: Now, for those of you who listened to the first episode of the show, the Mora Murray case, we talked about how Aquarius in general means a break, like a relationship ending, or a divorce from our last episode.
- 46:25SPEAKER_01: It can also mean something surprising and shocking.
- 46:29SPEAKER_01: It's something that wasn't exactly planned.
- 46:32SPEAKER_01: One just got a boost of motivation to do something very out of character for them.
- 46:37SPEAKER_01: And usually they do it because they believe it's the best thing that could be done for a group that they are part of.
- 46:43SPEAKER_01: It's like, let's say, for example, you're looking at a group of people, like a tight-knit club or something, and you say something really rude to them.
- 46:52SPEAKER_01: Suddenly the most quiet or shy person is the one that stands up and speaks back to you.
- 46:58SPEAKER_01: That's not something they would usually do, but since they are part of that group, that person gets that shocking urge to do something rebellious for them because it will benefit a group.
- 47:09SPEAKER_01: And that is what I think happened to Aisha when she left her house for that very reason.
- 47:14SPEAKER_01: She wanted to do something shocking and rebellious so she could benefit a group she was part of.
- 47:20SPEAKER_01: And that's the first major thing I'm writing down here.
- 47:23SPEAKER_01: And what's really strengthening my argument is that the chart is rising at 11 degrees, which is an Aquarius astrology degree.
- 47:32SPEAKER_01: It's strengthening the Aquariousness of it all.
- 47:34SPEAKER_01: And it also tends to make the person we are talking about slightly more self-sacrificial than usual.
- 47:41SPEAKER_01: Like they are mad at themselves too, which is what motivates them to do whatever rebellious thing that they did.
- 47:47SPEAKER_01: Remember when I mentioned that Aisha's North Node in Aquarius pointed that her life path is about really becoming part of a team and the group and learning how to find her place within something that's larger than herself.
- 48:01SPEAKER_01: That's why I think anything connected to her teammates would have made a really strong pull on her.
- 48:08SPEAKER_01: If she believed there was something she could do to help her team, like fix something after a major loss, maybe retrieve something important, or somehow make things right, that that idea may have felt way bigger to her than it felt to someone else.
- 48:23SPEAKER_01: It would have touched directly on that part of her life that was becoming so important to her.
- 48:29SPEAKER_01: Whatever she thought she was setting out to do that night, I think the connection to the team may have been part of what made this mission feel so urgent, important, very meaningful.
- 48:40SPEAKER_01: The next thing I'm gonna do is look for the location of the two rulers of Aquarius.
- 48:45SPEAKER_01: That's gonna be Saturn and Uranus, because these are the two planets that really tell Aquarius energy what to do.
- 48:52SPEAKER_01: They're gonna tell us more of the story.
- 48:55SPEAKER_01: Uranus is gonna tell us the shocking side, and Saturn is gonna tell us the part where Acia felt limited.
- 49:02SPEAKER_01: Uranus, which is the modern ruler of Aquarius, happens to be in Aquarius also, which is rising up with Acia, which confirms again that I don't think she planned this.
- 49:13SPEAKER_01: She more than likely woke up and felt the urge to do this.
- 49:16SPEAKER_01: A rule of forensic astrology is that when the ruler of the first house is in the first, like it is here, Aisha was on her own turf the whole time.
- 49:26SPEAKER_01: Nobody persuaded her, nobody spoke to her, nobody in her house chased her out.
- 49:32SPEAKER_01: She woke up and made this surprising decision to do something out of the house because she thought it would do something good for her team or a group she was part of.
- 49:42SPEAKER_01: And since Uranus was at 17 degrees, she felt like it was her duty to do whatever she was gonna do to really help this group.
- 49:51SPEAKER_01: Now let's look at Saturn, which is the other ruler of Asi, and that's gonna show what made her feel limited.
- 49:58SPEAKER_01: So Saturn is in Taurus in the third house.
- 50:01SPEAKER_01: Saturn is what was making her feel limited in this mission.
- 50:04SPEAKER_01: So since this is in the third section, this probably made her feel like she was disconnected from this group of people she was part of, or maybe the friends or teammates that she left to do something helpful for, or maybe to prove something to them.
- 50:19SPEAKER_01: Like, for example, she lost the basketball game, she blamed it on herself, but I think that she felt like there was a mission that she could do that would make up for her loss.
- 50:29SPEAKER_01: So I'm also gonna say that Saturn in the third house is going to also represent this horrible weather that was outside.
- 50:37SPEAKER_01: It was dark, snowy, and thunderstorming, and Aisha was normally scared of that.
- 50:42SPEAKER_01: So her leaving the house, especially on her own, and the climate and darkness would normally freak her out.
- 50:49SPEAKER_01: But that night it seemed to be the thing that was actually limiting her from her journey.
- 50:54SPEAKER_01: I'm also seeing two more planets here in the first section where it's gonna tell us even more about why Aisha left.
- 51:00SPEAKER_01: This was in February, so we have the sun and Aquarius here rising in the first section.
- 51:06SPEAKER_01: Now let me be honest about something.
- 51:08SPEAKER_01: There are certain signs that the sun really likes to be in.
- 51:12SPEAKER_01: Like when I'm doing natal chart readings, if you have your sun in Aries or in Leo, it's generally gonna be a pretty happily sun, especially if it's very well aspected, you're gonna have more of a brightness and optimism coming through in your personality.
- 51:28SPEAKER_01: But if your sun is in, let's say, Libra or Aquarius, it's gonna be a little harder to always be optimistic and it might even make you grumpier at times.
- 51:37SPEAKER_01: In Libra, it's probably because you're too busy worrying about other people to shine.
- 51:42SPEAKER_01: And the sun in Aquarius is because you're too busy being a rebel or fighting an idea, and you don't need rainbows and sunshine.
- 51:50SPEAKER_01: So the sun being in Aquarius is not really a good position to have in Ace's first house.
- 51:56SPEAKER_01: Seeing the sun here in the first section is telling me that there's something or someone who was involved with Aisha, and it became so important to her that she put away her own needs in order for this something.
- 52:10SPEAKER_01: And that is the reason why she left.
- 52:12SPEAKER_01: Now we're gonna look for the sign of Leo in this chart because the sun is telling Leo what to do.
- 52:18SPEAKER_01: And I'm seeing Leo here in the seventh section, which means that another person or whatever it is, an object or something that she wanted was so bright, it's completely the reason why she leaved the house.
- 52:30SPEAKER_01: So far, I am reading this as Aisha made a quick decision to leave that night unexpectedly to do something that would impact a group or a team that she was part of.
- 52:40SPEAKER_01: The rain would normally hold her back, but that night she fought past it.
- 52:45SPEAKER_01: She is also connected to something or someone Leo related, which motivated her to do this mission.
- 52:52SPEAKER_01: It's Leo, so it could be something bright or shiny.
- 52:55SPEAKER_01: It could be another person who's a star of the team.
- 52:59SPEAKER_01: It could be the ringleader of this team that would benefit if she did something to help, something she didn't normally do.
- 53:06SPEAKER_01: It also could be something that really meant a lot to her, like a basketball, a trophy.
- 53:12SPEAKER_01: Maybe it was a prank to get a trophy, maybe it was to retrieve an object that was important to the game, but it was something that was shining to her and got her to leave this house.
- 53:22SPEAKER_01: I'm really wondering at this point if it was her losing the basketball game that caused her to lose the house.
- 53:28SPEAKER_01: I do know that she felt really disappointed and blamed herself for losing the school's basketball game.
- 53:34SPEAKER_01: She really did feel like she let her team down, and I'm starting to strongly consider that she left for that reason, to rectify her loss.
- 53:43SPEAKER_01: To confirm this, I'm looking for the asteroid Nike.
- 53:47SPEAKER_01: Yes, like the shoe company.
- 53:49SPEAKER_01: Nike is named after the Greek goddess of victory, which is exactly where the brand gets its name from.
- 53:55SPEAKER_01: So when you think Nike, I think winning, achievement, going for it and crossing the finishing line.
- 54:01SPEAKER_01: Honestly, the slogan almost writes that part for us.
- 54:05SPEAKER_01: Just do it.
- 54:06SPEAKER_01: That is exactly how this placement feels to me.
- 54:09SPEAKER_01: Aisha had a goal in her head and she acted on it.
- 54:13SPEAKER_01: She wasn't sitting there debating it forever.
- 54:15SPEAKER_01: She started moving towards something that she believed she needed to do, and that's very Nike.
- 54:21SPEAKER_01: I'm seeing Nike in Leo directly conjunct the descendant, meaning something related to the themes of Nike is what made her leave the house.
- 54:32SPEAKER_01: The asteroid being here directly opposite from her in the chart makes me believe that she was doing something that she thought mattered and that she wanted to prove herself.
- 54:41SPEAKER_01: The important part was that she left with a purpose.
- 54:44SPEAKER_01: She is moving towards a finish line that she believes that is there.
- 54:48SPEAKER_01: That's what makes what happened next even more heartbreaking, because in her mind, she thought she was setting out to accomplish something.
- 54:55SPEAKER_01: She thought she was going to win.
- 54:58SPEAKER_01: We could still get more details here from this chart of what happened to Aisha and why she left.
- 55:03SPEAKER_01: We have another planet in the first section.
- 55:05SPEAKER_01: It's Mercury, it's in Pisces, and that was definitely another factor that got her to leave the house that night.
- 55:12SPEAKER_01: Mercury, which represents thinking in Pisces, showed that Aisha got an idea or a thought from a third party that inspired her to do this.
- 55:22SPEAKER_01: And since this is in Pisces, not in Aquarius, I'm gonna say that the person who gave her this idea was not on the team, but it was someone really close to her in her everyday life.
- 55:34SPEAKER_01: Mercury is usually giving someone about the same age as you or younger.
- 55:39SPEAKER_01: Mercury also represents a sibling, a cousin, or someone from the extended family.
- 55:44SPEAKER_01: So what this placement is saying here is that someone not from this team or not from the group Aisha was with said something to her that put an outside thought into her head.
- 55:55SPEAKER_01: Now I do know that she had cousins visiting before she left, but the person who put this idea in her head could have been anyone in the neighborhood.
- 56:04SPEAKER_01: Someone told her something or maybe made a joke that may give her an idea that she could do something to rectify her loss of the team.
- 56:12SPEAKER_01: Then the night of February 14th, 2000, she woke up early in the morning and shockingly decided to do it.
- 56:20SPEAKER_01: The moon's location in the chart will tell us more about the victim and their mood.
- 56:25SPEAKER_01: In this chart, the moon is in Gemini in the fourth section.
- 56:29SPEAKER_01: That immediately tells me that she was going somewhere kind of more private, most likely to someone else's house.
- 56:36SPEAKER_01: Gemini is all about information.
- 56:39SPEAKER_01: So it looks like an idea entered her head through another person through a casual conversation, and she took that idea and shockingly went onto a little mission.
- 56:50SPEAKER_01: There's something very childlike about Gemini energy.
- 56:54SPEAKER_01: It doesn't feel to me like an adult style plan with a long-term objective.
- 56:59SPEAKER_01: Gemini thinks in smaller steps, like I have to go there, I have to do this, I have to get this done.
- 57:06SPEAKER_01: I know where it is, I'm just gonna go and come right back.
- 57:09SPEAKER_01: And that last thing is the most important.
- 57:12SPEAKER_01: Gemini is not a sign I would associate with someone thinking they're gonna run away or leave the house.
- 57:19SPEAKER_01: Gemini is much more consistent with a short trip, an errand, retrieving something or delivering something, meeting somebody briefly, or accomplishing a very specific task and then returning.
- 57:33SPEAKER_01: I don't think Aisha was running away.
- 57:35SPEAKER_01: She left on her own and she was probably planning on being back home before anyone else noticed she was gone.
- 57:42SPEAKER_01: She was likely doing a quick mission to do something for her, probably her basketball team or a group of friends, based on an idea that someone else, like a neighbor, a sibling, a cousin gave her that would make her feel better about whatever happened and make up for something.
- 57:59SPEAKER_01: And since it was a tourist degree, it was likely a physical thing she was going to get to protect, to return, or possess.
- 58:08SPEAKER_01: And with the sun in the first section, it would have made her a hero.
- 58:12SPEAKER_01: Something like that.
- 58:13SPEAKER_01: It's giving like stealing the trophy from the actual winning team or getting a special basketball or something like that.
- 58:20SPEAKER_01: She braved the rain to do it, and she ran into trouble on the way.
- 58:25SPEAKER_01: Mercury being in her first house means I can look for two signs that Mercury rules to find out what this mission caused to happen.
- 58:34SPEAKER_01: Was she successful?
- 58:36SPEAKER_01: Mercury rules both Virgo and Gemini.
- 58:39SPEAKER_01: Unfortunately, Virgo rules the eighth section of this chart, which is a strong death indicator.
- 58:45SPEAKER_01: Gemini rules the fifth house, meaning it was either caused by someone under the influence, two different people, or a child, actually, under 18.
- 58:56SPEAKER_01: So that's what it's saying.
- 58:57SPEAKER_01: It's saying that she went on this mission and got hurt on this mission, got killed, and it was caused by either someone under the influence, by more than one person, or maybe even someone under the age of 18 years old.
- 59:11SPEAKER_01: Remember, Pluto is on the very top of the chart, which we talked about earlier, saying that this narrative was controlled or evidence was hidden.
- 59:19SPEAKER_01: That combined with the other death indicator is making me think that she was killed by someone and then it was covered up.
- 59:27SPEAKER_01: Now we have a good idea of why Aisha left her house, and now I'm gonna clear all of my notes and I'm gonna ask a new question to this chart.
- 59:38SPEAKER_01: I want to know who killed Aisha.
- 59:40SPEAKER_01: As we determined before, it really looks like there was no motive to this crime, which means it was very likely an accident.
- 59:48SPEAKER_01: Uranus right there on the ascendant means that whatever happened to her came out of nowhere.
- 59:55SPEAKER_01: It wasn't planned or expected on anyone's end.
- 59:58SPEAKER_01: There was no motive.
- 1:00:00SPEAKER_01: Let's look at Saturn, which is the other ruler of Asia, and we're getting Saturn and Taurus in the third house, which we talked about before that the weather condition was bad, which made her feel limited, and she felt limited by a group of people that she was in, which caused her to want to go out and rectify something.
- 1:00:19SPEAKER_01: When I'm looking at Saturn from the perspective of who killed her, it's making a sextile, which is a supportive aspect, to Mercury in the first house in Pisces.
- 1:00:31SPEAKER_01: And what that's really telling me was that it was a car that hit her accidentally.
- 1:00:36SPEAKER_01: But who was this person driving the car?
- 1:00:39SPEAKER_01: Let's look at Leo, because that's the sign right now ruling the other person, or in this case, the perpetrator of the crime.
- 1:00:47SPEAKER_01: The descendant here in Leo is at 11 degrees, which says that at the time the perpetrator committed this crime, they were feeling brave and bold, but at the same time, they were doing something really bad for themselves with the whole 11 degrees of it all.
- 1:01:04SPEAKER_01: The sun's placement is going to tell us more, and the sun is here right under Aisha in Aquarius.
- 1:01:11SPEAKER_01: The sun in Aquarius in a crime chart is usually not a happy sun.
- 1:01:15SPEAKER_01: Symbolically, it's saying that this person's actions cause them to hit Aisha and unfortunately take her life.
- 1:01:22SPEAKER_01: What's really standing out to me next is that this Saturn square, aka the car accident, the darkness, and the stormy weather, is making a square to a few placements in the 12th section.
- 1:01:35SPEAKER_01: The 12th section in a crime chart is the part that's right behind the victim.
- 1:01:40SPEAKER_01: It's pretty much everything very hidden and behind the scenes that's going on.
- 1:01:46SPEAKER_01: In this section, we have Venus here.
- 1:01:48SPEAKER_01: Venus is usually going to refer to a woman, sometimes a feminine man, but usually a woman, or something really sweet.
- 1:01:56SPEAKER_01: It's connected here to Neptune, which usually means delusional or intoxicated, and it's also with the South Node, aka secrets.
- 1:02:06SPEAKER_01: All of this going on is telling me that behind this whole story is an intoxicated young woman, and that's the secret behind the case.
- 1:02:14SPEAKER_01: The south note here in the 12th section shows a hidden secret with this case, and the north note in Leo in the sixth section is saying that a lot of cleanup and work has been done to cover up this secret and to save someone's pride.
- 1:02:29SPEAKER_01: Let's take a look here again at Mercury in the first section, because that's showing that another person was near Isha around the time of the crime.
- 1:02:38SPEAKER_01: Not someone who killed her, but a sibling of the killer, maybe, a cousin or a neighbor.
- 1:02:44SPEAKER_01: So since this Mercury is in Pisces, it's representing another person who is very behind the scenes but stepped in to help cover everything up.
- 1:02:54SPEAKER_01: And let me explain how.
- 1:03:13SPEAKER_01: What I'm seeing is Asia's mission that we spoke about is going in a battle back and forth by the public narrative of the car accident.
- 1:03:22SPEAKER_01: So what this is saying is that a third person stepped in, controlled the narrative to protect the reputation and self-worth of the person that caused this accident.
- 1:03:32SPEAKER_01: And since it's in Mercury, it's really going to denote a sibling of the person who caused the accident, a cousin, a neighbor, or an extended family member.
- 1:03:41SPEAKER_01: Maybe they made a phone call, maybe they contacted someone for help.
- 1:03:46SPEAKER_01: They could have decided who needed to know and who needed to stay out of these things.
- 1:03:50SPEAKER_01: They could have moved something connecting to the accident or covered everything up, but they may have helped create an explanation for where the driver had been and what they were doing.
- 1:04:00SPEAKER_01: But here's what really gets to me is that Mercury rules Gemini.
- 1:04:05SPEAKER_01: Gemini is the sign of doubles.
- 1:04:08SPEAKER_01: We're seeing two stories, two versions of events, and two explanations existing at the same time.
- 1:04:14SPEAKER_01: Instead of making the original event disappear, a person came in and created another story for everyone to follow.
- 1:04:22SPEAKER_01: Now I want to show you one of the craziest asteroid connections in this entire chart.
- 1:04:27SPEAKER_01: There's an asteroid named Rumpel Stilt, and it's sitting really close to Murphy.
- 1:04:32SPEAKER_01: And yes, I mean like Rumpel Stiltskin.
- 1:04:35SPEAKER_01: It's saying that the story of Rumpel Stiltskin has come into this case in a way.
- 1:04:40SPEAKER_01: The story about Rumpel Stiltskin is about someone who gets trapped in an impossible situation and has no idea how to get out of it.
- 1:04:49SPEAKER_01: Then another person appears and offers the solution.
- 1:04:52SPEAKER_01: The problem is that the help comes with a secret agreement, and that's exactly why this asteroid gets my attention here.
- 1:04:59SPEAKER_01: Mercury is already the person in this chart who looks like they stepped in after something went wrong.
- 1:05:05SPEAKER_01: Mercury rules information, phone calls and messages and explanations, and the person who knows what to say while everyone is panicking.
- 1:05:14SPEAKER_01: But this Mercury is in Pisces.
- 1:05:16SPEAKER_01: Pisces doesn't make things clearer.
- 1:05:19SPEAKER_01: Pisces makes things harder to see.
- 1:05:21SPEAKER_01: It blurs the truth and it creates confusion.
- 1:05:24SPEAKER_01: It mixes facts with emotion and leaves people unsure of what really happened.
- 1:05:30SPEAKER_01: So I don't picture this person who stepped in to help creating some master plan.
- 1:05:35SPEAKER_01: I think this person created enough confusion to keep the truth from being obvious.
- 1:05:40SPEAKER_01: Once that happened, this person was no longer helping the crime.
- 1:05:44SPEAKER_01: They became part of the crime.
- 1:05:46SPEAKER_01: In this story, the person with the solution also becomes the person holding the secret.
- 1:05:52SPEAKER_01: And there's one final detail I just cannot get past.
- 1:05:56SPEAKER_01: Rumble Stiltskin loses his power when his name.
- 1:06:00SPEAKER_01: Is discovered.
- 1:06:01SPEAKER_01: And that is how this whole thing starts to fall apart.
- 1:06:04SPEAKER_01: Because when I see this asteroid sitting behind Mercury and Pisces, I keep coming back to this one question.
- 1:06:11SPEAKER_01: Who's Mercury in this case?
- 1:06:13SPEAKER_01: Because if one person really did step up and help the perpetrator of this crime, identifying them is the one thing that's going to cause this whole story to unravel.
- 1:06:23SPEAKER_01: Remember something important about the Rumpel Stiltskin story.
- 1:06:27SPEAKER_01: His help was never free.
- 1:06:29SPEAKER_01: At first, the woman gives him her necklace.
- 1:06:32SPEAKER_01: Then she gives him her ring.
- 1:06:34SPEAKER_01: Finally, when she has nothing else to give, she's promising her whole life story.
- 1:06:39SPEAKER_01: So every time he solves the problem, the price gets bigger and bigger.
- 1:06:42SPEAKER_01: So if Mercury is a person who helped solve the problem after the accident, I have to ask what the price of that help was.
- 1:06:50SPEAKER_01: Maybe that price was silence.
- 1:06:52SPEAKER_01: Maybe the biggest sacrifice was the truth itself.
- 1:06:55SPEAKER_01: Someone gets to keep their reputation.
- 1:06:57SPEAKER_01: Someone gets to keep their future.
- 1:06:59SPEAKER_01: Someone gets to go home and continue their life.
- 1:07:02SPEAKER_01: But Acia's real story disappears in exchange.
- 1:07:05SPEAKER_01: I would be very surprised if this is the kind of secret that stays buried forever.
- 1:07:10SPEAKER_01: Secrets shared between two people rarely stay completely still.
- 1:07:15SPEAKER_01: They create that constant awareness that somebody else is walking around carrying that one piece of information that can destroy everything.
- 1:07:24SPEAKER_01: Because once two people are carrying the same secret, the secret is no longer buried in one place.
- 1:07:31SPEAKER_01: It's alive in both of them, and all it takes is one person to stop protecting it.
- 1:07:36SPEAKER_01: Now I want to look at Lilith because I often use Lilith as another indicator of the person responsible for what happened.
- 1:07:42SPEAKER_01: Lilith here is in Sagittarius in the 11th section of the chart.
- 1:07:46SPEAKER_01: The 11th section immediately makes me wonder if the person that accidentally killed Aisha was connected to her wider community.
- 1:07:54SPEAKER_01: I don't mean that the perpetrator was someone close to Aisha, but it's someone who might have known who she was.
- 1:08:01SPEAKER_01: Maybe they saw her before.
- 1:08:02SPEAKER_01: Maybe they went to the same school or church or something like that.
- 1:08:06SPEAKER_01: But feels different than a completely random person passing through who had never seen Aisha in their life.
- 1:08:12SPEAKER_01: Sagittarius makes me think that this person came from a different world than Aisha in some noticeable way.
- 1:08:18SPEAKER_01: That could mean that the perpetrator of this crime was a different religion, culture, race, or social circle.
- 1:08:25SPEAKER_01: It could also describe someone who traveled more than her, drove more distances, or was on the road for a reason that night.
- 1:08:32SPEAKER_01: It probably already existed somewhere on the edge of her world.
- 1:08:35SPEAKER_01: Now this is where the case starts getting really wild.
- 1:08:38SPEAKER_01: We have the photograph of the unidentified little girl found in Ace's Things, who was not Aisha.
- 1:08:44SPEAKER_01: Then later we have the new kids on the block shirt.
- 1:08:47SPEAKER_01: We have those objects that become enormous rabbit holes in this case because nobody knows exactly where they fit.
- 1:08:54SPEAKER_01: But looking at this chart, I do not think they fit where people think they do.
- 1:08:59SPEAKER_01: All of this is happening on the intercepted second section of this chart.
- 1:09:03SPEAKER_01: So to me, this separates the clues from Aisha leaving the house from the accident herself.
- 1:09:09SPEAKER_01: It feels like a different chapter to the story.
- 1:09:12SPEAKER_01: What if these clues were never meant to explain what happened to Aisha?
- 1:09:17SPEAKER_01: What if they were meant to make this case bigger, more confusing, more complicated, and more full of possibilities?
- 1:09:23SPEAKER_01: Instead of one clean trail, investigators end up with an unidentified girl, a shirt that does not seem to belong to Aisha, a book, a buried backpack, and years of people trying to figure out which clue really matters the most.
- 1:09:38SPEAKER_01: That's Jupiter.
- 1:09:39SPEAKER_01: It multiplies the story, and at 29 degrees, it feels just like the energy is pushed all the way to the edge.
- 1:09:46SPEAKER_01: But I keep coming back to the idea that the strangest evidence in this case probably doesn't point to why Aisha left her home.
- 1:09:53SPEAKER_01: It points to what somebody wanted everyone to believe afterwards.
- 1:09:58SPEAKER_01: One thing I want to say is that all of these Aquarius placements could be really meaningful in uncovering what happened in this case.
- 1:10:07SPEAKER_01: So Pluto currently, right now, today as I record this, is moving through Aquarius.
- 1:10:13SPEAKER_01: It moves really, really slowly, but when it touches a personal planet involved in any crime case, it's gonna uncover a few things.
- 1:10:22SPEAKER_01: Maybe some truth that's been buried.
- 1:10:24SPEAKER_01: When it gets to 2030, Pluto is gonna be moving very close to the ascendant in this case.
- 1:10:31SPEAKER_01: If the case is still unresolved by 2030, I would be watching that period very closely because when Pluto does cross the ascendant of this case, I feel like we're gonna learn so much more and possibly the case could be solved.
- 1:10:46SPEAKER_01: After putting this whole thing together, I think the story started with the basketball game.
- 1:10:52SPEAKER_01: Aisha was very upset about the loss, and I think that disappointment made her especially open to the idea of fixing something or proving something afterwards.
- 1:11:02SPEAKER_01: I don't think anyone directly told her to leave her house, but I do think someone around her said something that gave her an idea.
- 1:11:10SPEAKER_01: It could have been another child, a sibling, someone from the neighborhood, or someone connected to the people she regularly saw.
- 1:11:18SPEAKER_01: Maybe they mentioned an object she could retrieve.
- 1:11:21SPEAKER_01: Maybe they are offering her something to help her with her game.
- 1:11:24SPEAKER_01: Maybe there was a prank involved.
- 1:11:26SPEAKER_01: Maybe somebody told her about a trophy, a gift, or something connected to basketball in general that could make her think she could do things right.
- 1:11:36SPEAKER_01: It could have been a completely casual comment to the person who said it, or even a joke, but Aisha took it seriously.
- 1:11:43SPEAKER_01: Once the idea was in her head, I think she turned it into a mission.
- 1:11:48SPEAKER_01: She believed that she was going somewhere to accomplish something.
- 1:11:51SPEAKER_01: She may have thought she was going to surprise someone, prove herself, get something important, or correct something that's been bothering her since the game.
- 1:12:00SPEAKER_01: I don't think she left because she wanted to disappear.
- 1:12:03SPEAKER_01: I think this was a short mission that she expected to come home.
- 1:12:06SPEAKER_01: But then something happened that had nothing to do with her original plan.
- 1:12:10SPEAKER_01: I think she was struck by a vehicle, and I think the person driving that vehicle panicked.
- 1:12:17SPEAKER_01: I also think another person became involved very quickly.
- 1:12:20SPEAKER_01: And that second person seems important to me because I don't think that they caused the accident, but I think they helped decide what would happen next.
- 1:12:29SPEAKER_01: And a cover up started.
- 1:12:31SPEAKER_01: Someone had to decide who should be called, someone had to decide what should be said.
- 1:12:36SPEAKER_01: Someone had to decide what needed to disappear.
- 1:12:39SPEAKER_01: I think the second person that helped created enough confusion that the original event became harder and harder to see.
- 1:12:47SPEAKER_01: And that's why I think there's so much strange evidence in this case.
- 1:12:51SPEAKER_01: Some of those clues may belong to what happened afterward.
- 1:12:54SPEAKER_01: They may have added more stories and more directions for investigators to follow until the original chain of events became buried underneath everything else.
- 1:13:03SPEAKER_01: I think the person who helped became trapped by the decision they made.
- 1:13:07SPEAKER_01: One person lives with the guilt by what they did.
- 1:13:11SPEAKER_01: The other person lives with the guilt that they helped hide.
- 1:13:14SPEAKER_01: This creates pressure.
- 1:13:15SPEAKER_01: Both people know exactly what the other person could reveal, and that's why I don't think that this is gonna stay hidden forever.
- 1:13:23SPEAKER_01: Secrets change over time.
- 1:13:25SPEAKER_01: Someone reaches a point where carrying the guilt becomes harder than telling the truth.
- 1:13:31SPEAKER_01: Do any of you read charts too?
- 1:13:33SPEAKER_01: I would love to hear what you see in this one, especially if there are clues that I missed or theories you think fit the story.
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- 1:13:59SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much for listening.
- 1:14:01SPEAKER_01: My name is Macy Murda.
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