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#168 - Did Jurassic Park (1993) age well? (w/ JD Lopez and Paul Karolyi) · Did That Age Well?

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  Hi everybody, Welcome to Did That Age Well, the podcast that
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  suffers from an excess of personality today, Hold On to
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  Your Butts because we've got a couple of guys who are amped to
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  talk about Jurassic Park. They've been yapping about it on
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  their own podcast called Hold On to Your Butts.
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  A couple of friends of mine, Paul and JD, welcome to the pod.
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  Hi. Thanks for having us.
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  Oh my God, I'm so glad to have you guys here.
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  And welcome everybody to the most popular episode that this
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  podcast will do. Oh.
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  Wow. OK, Jurassic Park, Very popular.
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  Movie The highest grossing episode that this may may ever
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  have until we do. What was the one that the
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  Titanic? Yeah.
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  Oh, we did that one already. Maybe we did revisit.
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  Yeah. Just terrific just to like
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  follow up at the right cadence, you guys, what's going on?
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  Tell the people about the show that you're doing.
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  That's you, Mommy. OK, Well, oh you, Mr. Hammond.
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  Also, yeah, for those who are listening and not watching,
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  you're missing, you probably are missing out big time because
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  we're going full method here, JD.
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  Gotti playing as John Hammond right now.
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  You know, this is not something I do every day.
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  But, you know, when I get to, you know, did this age well, I
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  want to dress up like the character of the movie we're
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  talking about. So, and thank you for that this
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  morning. I actually did.
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  Sorry, I asked you a question and then immediately started
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  interrupting you with my own thoughts but.
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  We're in it. He likes it.
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  Yeah, we're, I think he does. You know, he's been on this
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  podcast before. He knows how this goes.
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  I this morning as I was deciding what am I going to wear, I did,
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  I got out a couple of options. I said OK, here's a normal
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  outfit. And then I got out kind of like
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  my Laura Dern nice bit and I said, am I going to wear this?
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  She's our queen. She is our queen.
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  But I went into, I went into it. First, Dallas Howard is my
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  queen. OK.
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  Yeah, hey. I'm the big Howard fans.
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  He is. That's what I learned through
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  the rewatch. Yeah, She's the unsung, unsung
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  hero of the franchise. You know who I think is the
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  unsung hero? The T Rex.
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  Say what? Rexy baby Rexy legacy character.
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  A real legacy character. Anyway, all that to say, I was,
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  I was on the on the verge of coming in here looking like a
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  camp counselor, but I, I didn't. I'm wearing my normal clothes.
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  I like that you think about what you're going to wear on the
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  podcast, though. I mean, I think it's a big part
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  of it. Some people don't seem to care
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  about it too much, but you know. I mean, this is Malcolm.
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  I'm doing Malcolm. You're wearing a blue thing with
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  your. Hands, you're wearing a blue, so
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  I don't know if I can say this, but you're going to have to
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  unbutton those buttons about 5. More Hey Malcolm wearing leather
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  laser. So warm out, this is summer
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  mount. Transition lenses, you know, his
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  lenses are always kind of in between glasses and sunny
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  they're. Tinted.
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  I don't think that they're transitions.
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  I don't think those were invented yet.
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  Maybe. Maybe.
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  Have you seen the 6th? The 6th Jurassic Park film?
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  Jurassic World Dominion. I have seen it, yes.
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  Do you remember the part where Malcolm's like, going to take
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  off an extra button and Bryce Dallis, Howard's like?
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  No, it's not Bryce Dallis, Howard.
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  It's the other. It's the pilot character who
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  looks at it. Is that true?
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  Yeah, it is true, all right. I only shot it once.
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  I saw it in during COVID when I think it was Jurassic World
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  Dominion. It was in the theaters but it
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  wasn't during the time when like you could just like rent out a
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  theater with your friends because they you know, like
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  nobody could go to the movie theater.
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  So for my friends birthday we rented out the theater and
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  watched Jurassic World Dominion. Pretty sure that was the one it.
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  Was. I I liked it.
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  I mean, it was fun because it was like a field trip because
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  leaving the house was fun. So I think that if I watched it
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  today, maybe I wouldn't say that, but I was like, wow, this
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  is so fun. This is so much bigger than my
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  regular regular TV at home. Well, we're always debating
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  whether you go to Jurassic Park for Dino action or the big
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  thoughts. What do you when you think about
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  it, what do you want from a Jurassic Park movie?
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  I want big Dinos. You want the Dinos.
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  But I like that the first one really gives you both.
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  I like that the first one gives you both.
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  I got to be honest, the first one and Jurassic World Dominion,
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  At least I'm pretty sure that's the Jurassic World that it was.
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  Again, another part of the podcast, you know.
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  Was there a city chase with velociraptors?
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  It was probably that one. It came out during the pandemic,
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  OK. Yeah, Dominion.
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  Those are the only two I've seen.
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  You haven't seen any of the in between ones?
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  JP 3. JP 4.
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  No. LW Colon.
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  JP stingy and I'm going to keep saying no.
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  JP, JW 2 following. Following along with your pods.
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  So I feel like it's going to be a big summer for me watching all
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  those movies. Let me circle back to what I
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  asked 5 minutes ago and then interrupted myself.
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  Tell us about the podcast. Hold on to your buds.
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  Well, it's about how the biggest show on Earth lost his bite,
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  which was my thesis going into this whole project, which was
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  Jurassic Park. It was the biggest thing in the
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  90s, dinosaurs were everywhere and then they made 6 movies and
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  most people couldn't tell you anything about the five after
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  the first one. They probably people think that
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  they've seen them, but they haven't seen all of them.
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  That was me. I was pretty sure I had seen
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  some of most of the movies. So that was the idea was like
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  what happened here? Yeah, I did this.
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  What happened? And what happened to us, we use
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  these Chinese, What happened? What happened?
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  They're they're not extinct because they keep pumping those
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  movies out. They do.
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  Another one coming. Arguably, I think it's bigger
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  than ever. I mean, like I said, you can go
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  into Walmart right now, get some a Jurassic Park T-shirt, big
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  time. You could buy Dino cookies.
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  You can get Jurassic Park. Think Mother's Circus cookies.
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  Yes, which we ate on one of the podcasts.
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  Oh, that's so fun. Yeah, I mean, it's all over the
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  place. You know what you guys should
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  do? You guys should do like a
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  bracket of like Jurassic Park merch and like try to really
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  narrow down what is like the best, most quintessential
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  Jurassic Park merch. I'd like to see that.
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  I like that's a request. I got my niece a Raptor like
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  helmet that when you open the mouth it does the you know the
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  Raptor voice. That's sick.
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  I was like that. But that's more of a JP three.
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  You wouldn't know that, sure. And I don't get it at all.
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  I could obviously understand the noise that a Raptor can make.
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  It sounds more like a seal. Yeah, in that one.
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  But not in this. There were Raptors in this one.
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  They didn't sound like. It was Raptors in all of them.
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  They're all basically. The same RV it's Raptors and T
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  Rex. Raptors and T Rex the.
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  Raptors communicating is a big thing in JP 3.
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  Yeah, they did communicate in this one as well.
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  They're like the same movie, I swear to God.
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  There is the some bullshit excuse where people go to an
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  island. It doesn't mean to anything.
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  There's some kind of changing alliances.
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  Dino action in the jungle, Yeah, kills and they escape.
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  That's all of them. And then and then they go back
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  from the next one. They never learn.
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  They never learn. What else are you guys up to?
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  What other What other things are you doing?
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  Well, I do stand up comedy around town constantly doing
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  that. I have a music video comedy mash
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  up show that I'm doing at Meeting Information Cafe.
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  Now. It's supposed to be third
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  Thursdays, or excuse me, third Fridays of the month here,
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  starting soon. So I need to look at a show
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  comedy mash up show. Yeah.
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  And angle weird. You know what I'm saying?
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  Nice. I don't.
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  Know what are you talking? About what do you mean?
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  Angle weird. It's never been.
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  What, are you sorry? I mean, never mind.
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  Forget him. His show's great.
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  I went last Time is better than ever.
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  I've been over the years, Better.
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  It's only getting better. No, thank you.
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  Great to hear comedians keep picking different Creed music
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  videos every time. For some reason Creed is there.
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  Also picked up just like Jurassic Park.
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  Never. That's a fight from the 90s.
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  Ever lost it? Creed's great.
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  Creed's great. It's great.
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  What about you? What are you up to?
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  What else am I doing? I mean I got other podcast
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  stuff. You're at the beautiful did
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  dude. IDK studios we record City cast,
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  Denver daily local news and culture podcast.
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  Also very good. We talked mayor about stuff and.
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  Every day. Wow.
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  Best burgers? And I support my friends.
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  JD sometimes leaves voicemails and complaints about stuff that
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  we said and. I mean, that's kind of how the
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  pod came about. Paul messed up a Jurassic Park
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  quote and I called in, and then he decided he needs to correct
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  it by doing a whole series where he still couldn't tell you what
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  the name of the game warden of Jurassic Park is.
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  Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's Robert Muldoon.
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  There it is. There.
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  You go. Do you know the actor's name?
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  No, I don't like quizzes. Robert back OK anyway, spared no
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  expense. Spared no expense.
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  You know what? I'm you.
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  Hate this man. OK, Channeling Hammond.
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  Yeah, you're. Welcome.
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  See right back at you. Yeah, he is.
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  What's your most memorable line? My I think that the most
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  memorable line to me would be let's see if of course I wrote
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  well, OK, look it up. Here's the thing, the the first
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  line that I did start with, when they say he suffers from an
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  excess of personality, I think that's probably my favorite
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  line. But I did already say that my
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  second favorite line would be the one where Laura Dern says,
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  like, she's like, we'll discuss sexism in survival situations
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  when I get back. I liked that.
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  That's funny. We're totally picking up on
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  different things. Yeah, it's crazy.
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  Totally, totally. Three people can watch a movie
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  and pick completely different things.
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  That's crazy. Yeah, yeah.
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  Interesting. Are we going to talk about the
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  line? Can we talk about the line?
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  JD owes me an apology. OK.
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  JD, would you like to take if? You want to take this moment to
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  apologize to my friend Paul Karoli, who I've mercilessly
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  tortured about this. He insisted that the signature
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  line, you know, the namesake of this podcast, Hold on to your
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  butts, has been said twice in the movie.
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  He claims that it had been said twice.
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  And you said that wouldn't be stupid.
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  I didn't why? Did he say it?
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  Twice. You thought.
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  You thought it was only said once.
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  I thought it was only said once. I thought it was when they were
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  going on the tour and they were, you know, leaving.
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  I thought that was the only time that wow, Samuel L Jackson, yes,
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  he's in this movie, said hold on to your butts.
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  But in the can't believe that probably the 4th rewatch I've
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  done within the last month of it.
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  I did pick up the second hold on to your butts.
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  This is big for which is when they reboot.
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  The whole system, it's kind of the end of the Hold on to Your
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  Butts podcast arc. Is this apology.
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  It's special that it's happening, yeah.
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  And I am so honored that you would choose to do it on this
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  podcast. Did that age?
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  Yeah. We won't speak of it on ours
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  because all the episodes have been recorded well.
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  We're going to do 1 to the new one.
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  We'll we'll talk about it. Again, you can apologize.
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  Again I. Won't you know what?
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  Let's collaborate on this reel so that you're so that your
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  followers know the real apology that needed to take because
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  today. I'm the bigger man and I can
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  admit when I'm wrong just so this.
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  Cheapens it a little bit. Right.
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  All right, we're gonna, we're gonna go ahead and wrap that up.
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  Thank you so much for your time. Tiny Rex size man if you will.
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  Do you really? OK.
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  Do you identify more as AT Rex or a Raptor?
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  T Rex, I'm kind of clumsy, you know?
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  I'm a big guy. Yeah, totally clomping around.
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  Making water shake when you walk into a.
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  Well, I would like to think I don't go that far muscular.
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  Muscular. Yeah, muscular.
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  Yeah, I feel like I'm fast and fierce, like a rap.
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  He does hold his arms like this sometimes so.
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  It's crazy. Let's pull his arms right here.
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  He's got a very big, long, big toenail.
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  Did you hear me upstairs looking for you all and I was just
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  hooting, Hooting for you? I'm like good, where the fucks
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  don't they make? Yeah, but I wouldn't understand
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  that because I haven't seen JP 3, of course so.
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  It's someday. Well, one day, yeah, totally.
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  Well, I love that you guys. It sounds like it sounds like
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  maybe the original is your favorite.
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  Would you agree with that? Yeah, I mean, that's the one.
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  I kicked it all off. I think it's got to be, there's
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  no other movies without that one.
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  I mean, it's, it's got a place, it's true always #1.
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  The special thing about the original is you're right, it has
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  the combination, the perfect combination of the big near
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  future sci-fi ideas that come from Michael Crichton, which is
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  brilliant. Like reengineering bringing back
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  dinosaurs. So fucking mind blowing and
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  interesting that. Spectacle. 40 years ago.
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  Hand doesn't mean you should. That concept that we've simply
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  not learned. And then he layers on top of
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  that the theme park, which is an idea that came about six years
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  later in his life. And then a couple years later
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  after the book still wasn't working when he introduced the
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  character of Ian Malcolm to to lay over this whole thing, the
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  chaos theory element that creates A dramatic irony for the
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  viewer as you're watching and you're not sure who's right, is
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  Malcolm right, is Hammond right? What's going to happen with the
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  Dinos? And you have that extra layer of
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  uncertainty in the film. It's just very well crafted.
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  It's classic Spielberg. It is my third favorite of the
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  series. Your third favorite series?
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  OK. Well if I'm rewatching them I'm
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  not going to JP one. I find the special effects kind
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  of flimsy. I find it all kind of like it.
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  Was 1993. It holds up though.
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  I mean that did age well. The CG in Jurassic Park 1 from
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  1993 still. Or 1993 it's.
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  Because they used it sparingly. He knew what worked, what
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  didn't. The masterful direction of
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  Spielberg. Yeah.
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  I know this is the consensus opinion.
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  It's not my opinion. I think seeing the I think
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  seeing the animatronic Raptors, I think he uses it a little too
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  much. The look the like the head of
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  the one Raptor puppet that he has.
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  And there's like the, the snorting against a window and
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  there's like the, the mean lip curl, like I just, it gets a
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  little bit old on a rewatch. Like it doesn't do it for me.
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  Whereas the later ones when the effects get better, I think the
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  Howard trilogy is like way underappreciated.
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  I think Jurassic World won. I, I would rewatch that any day.
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  And then especially Fallen Kingdom, the Dino action is,
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  it's not my favorite part of the franchise, but the Dino action
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  and fallen Kingdom combined with the big ideas of the cloning and
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  the great climactic moment with the little girl, it's, it's
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  really quite good. Those two I would rank higher
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  than. The Angel is the name of the
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  Little Mercy. I wouldn't remember that.
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  That's what JD look at. That's what.
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  That's why we got him. Yeah, one of many.
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  Why is that a nerd on the 1st? Well, I don't get it.
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  I don't understand. OK, interesting.
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  I I didn't expect that. You really are you really are
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  contrarian, aren't you? I'm.
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  My own man. OK, he says.
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  I'm not like the other guys, OK? I'm a hot mathematician, is what
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  he said. He said I'm a rock star.
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  OK, How do you guys feel like his character ages?
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  I was going to ask you this. We talked about this.
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  I want I'd want to know what you think.
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  Actually, the raw sexuality of Jeff Gold.
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  So here's the thing. I think that Jeff Goldblum is
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  kind of especially in this role, he's a classic hot.
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  That's a timeless hot. He could wear the same thing
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  today. He's.
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  Wearing jade ring? Yes, he's got a big necklace.
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  I mean, his shirt is unbuttoned more buttons throughout the
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  whole movie. It's so good.
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  It's so good. Yeah.
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  She never sits straight up. You know, he's always kind of
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  talking a little bit weird, like, and by that I just mean
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  like, he kind of pronounces his words unlike anyone else that
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  has no, there's no like linguistic consistency.
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  And I love that about him. It's so special what he brings
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  to the line. Reads like finds a way or like
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  what struck me on this rewatch was in the in the helicopter on
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  the way to the island where he's laughing and he's just like
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  horror horror. He's like growling almost.
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  He's like, you guys so weird. Dig up dinosaurs and like.
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  And that's how you know that he's like a mathematician,
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  because you're like, you're not. That's how you know you don't
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  math. Yeah, because he, because he has
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  these like weird nerdy guy quirks and you're like, I don't
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  really get this. Exactly.
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  He's on the spectrum. He's.
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  Certainly, certainly one thing my wife brought up is they
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  objectify Goldblum more than they do during in this movie.
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  Jeff Goldblum showing way more chest.
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  Oh, that's so true. But you know, one thing that
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  really that really was perplexing about Dern's
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  character is that at the end of the film, like, I mean, she's
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  been through hell, everyone else just looking busted.
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  She had her arm. She was armed deep in a pile of
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  shit the day before and on the helicopter ride home.
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  Hair perfect, makeup perfect. She looks as though she just.
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  She's the queen, Yeah. You mean you wouldn't look like
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  that? I'm sure you would, is what I'm
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  getting. At Oh my God and thank you so
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  much so. Wow, these guys what about so
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  the sexuality when you know Goldblum is flirting with Laura
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  Dern's character that how did that age?
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  OK, that I feel so conflicted because on the one hand I'm
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  like, well, he is hot so there's so it's OK.
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  But they are colleagues, sort of, I mean.
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  They just met. They're in a work setting.
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  OK, They're in a work setting. So it's a little bit weird to be
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  like flirting in the work setting.
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  I will say, I think that it establishes that his character
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  is a little slimy, but ultimately he means well.
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  You know, like he's a little bit like, you know, he's a flirt,
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  but he's not really going to steal your girl.
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  Would have stolen the way he was like having her hair.
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  He's hanging her hair. Yeah.
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  He was doing the hand thing. Yeah.
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  And then she's like, hey, Grant, come and look at this, Alan.
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  Look at what? Look how he's flirting with me.
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  And then he runs. That you ever.
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  Why don't you ever do that? Yeah.
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  Basically, she's like, hey, this is how you flirt.
• 19:05
  And then he jumps out of the vehicle.
• 19:07
  Yeah. He truly ejects himself from the
• 19:11
  default. You know what, though?
• 19:13
  I I'm really glad that they didn't lean too much into that
• 19:17
  like romantic subplot or like a love triangle conflict.
• 19:22
  Like they're just using that scene to show us like he's kind
• 19:26
  of a flirt. He's like a little bit smarmy.
• 19:30
  He's maybe going to steal your girl.
• 19:32
  Like watch out. He's probably not going to steal
• 19:35
  your girl, but he's that's just kind of, he's just a an
• 19:39
  effortlessly cool guy who, I mean, women are just going to
• 19:44
  swoon. So I think that really was what
• 19:47
  it accomplished, and I'm glad that they didn't make it like a,
• 19:51
  oh, who's going to fall in love at the end of this?
• 19:53
  Just have that moment in the car with Grant where he's like, are
• 19:56
  you guys together? Yeah, He's like, I'm always
• 19:58
  looking for the new X Miss Malcolm, which is not a good
• 20:01
  line. I mean, that's like a, you know,
• 20:03
  not a good guy line. But Goldblum gets a lot of You
• 20:06
  forgive him a lot because you like him so much.
• 20:08
  Exactly and. He's a hunk and he's hot.
• 20:10
  That's the line between creep and not creep as.
• 20:12
  If you're hot as if you're hot, I know that sucks.
• 20:15
  He's got hot privilege. Yeah, it sucks for some.
• 20:19
  Pretty privilege, yeah. Yeah, but we all understand
• 20:21
  that, you know? Paul yeah, we all had it almost
• 20:26
  move a little closer over here. It's just good over what do you
• 20:29
  meant reach your hair at that what it says what is it I want
• 20:32
  to explain to as theory by dropping things on your hand so
• 20:35
  Molly will know I. Did I?
• 20:36
  I heard this Ted talk about chaos theory and it actually is
• 20:40
  not really at all I think. What that character?
• 20:44
  Put Gray in the movie. Yeah.
• 20:46
  What is your understanding of that?
• 20:48
  Oh God, that's not even go there, OK.
• 20:50
  Fair enough. I really you asked me the same
• 20:52
  question. I'll give you the same answer.
• 20:53
  Don't talk to me about this. Was there butterfly?
• 20:57
  Yeah, butterfly effect, couldn't tell you.
• 21:00
  It's an interdisciplinary study which is a branch of mathematics
• 21:05
  stating that within apparent random chaotic slash complex
• 21:08
  systems there are underlying patterns.
• 21:11
  OK. And I didn't read that.
• 21:13
  That's great. And thank you for that.
• 21:15
  I took notes. Good.
• 21:17
  He took notes. It's you.
• 21:18
  Did then to the Malcolm effect. Do you remember that?
• 21:20
  Well, this is more in the book. Sorry.
• 21:22
  It's the Malcolm effect. You wanna talk?
• 21:24
  About OK, that's my thing so I. Believe your big implications,
• 21:28
  OK, Yeah. Good.
• 21:31
  OK, good, good. You wanna know, one thing that
• 21:34
  really doesn't age well about Jurassic Park is the way that
• 21:38
  people say life finds a way when it doesn't make sense.
• 21:42
  Like not in the movie, but in life where people, like,
• 21:45
  culturally, where people are like, well, life finds a way.
• 21:48
  It's like there are very few times where someone has said
• 21:53
  that and I've been like, yeah, you're right.
• 21:55
  What do you mean? Well, I feel like, OK, maybe
• 21:58
  this isn't getting a little bit too specific, but there's
• 22:01
  actually one person I know who I have in mind who says this.
• 22:05
  Like kind of often when it this is great when it really when I
• 22:10
  was. Blast this person he like got
• 22:12
  off a charging. Spot.
• 22:13
  And he's like. Life like finds a way.
• 22:15
  It really is. I got to be honest with you, it
• 22:19
  is. Exactly.
• 22:20
  Yeah, it is exactly like that. So I don't know if I don't know
• 22:23
  actually how they do. This now this is.
• 22:26
  Great, and something worse out in your favor.
• 22:28
  You're like, well, wife finds a way.
• 22:29
  Paul finds a way. That's what I'm all for.
• 22:32
  My own spoon on it. How about that, Paul?
• 22:35
  Hey, wait, you made it. How about yourself?
• 22:36
  Where you go? Yeah, You know, I'm my own man.
• 22:39
  Yeah, he's not. This is great, though.
• 22:41
  I've never heard this before. Really.
• 22:43
  Yeah. I don't know.
• 22:44
  I've not heard someone use it colloquially.
• 22:46
  I once made a mistake at a party.
• 22:47
  I said nature finds a way. I was trying to quote Jurassic
• 22:50
  Park and this very group of nerds I was with, myself
• 22:52
  included. They just pilloried me.
• 22:54
  They laughed at me. They said you fool.
• 22:57
  And you didn't learn from that because clearly you misquoted
• 23:02
  the music. Yeah, I did.
• 23:04
  And but it LED us to where we are today, so thank goodness.
• 23:07
  Life finds a way. And Paul finds a way.
• 23:11
  Pod finds a way. I love that.
• 23:14
  Life finds a pod. Which do you prefer?
• 23:17
  Pod finds a way, yeah. Can I, we ask, did rich old guys
• 23:22
  throwing money at problems age well?
• 23:24
  You know what? I think that this is one of the
• 23:26
  things that really ages best about this movie is that they
• 23:31
  really tried to warn us about what happens when billionaires
• 23:35
  get too involved in science, when they think, oh, that seems
• 23:39
  cool. And then they fund a thing
• 23:41
  without thinking about, I don't know, consequences.
• 23:45
  I think a thing that Michael Crichton does that bothers me is
• 23:49
  that he often really villainizes scientists and is like, oh, oh,
• 23:55
  if scientists had their way, we'd all be scorching the earth
• 24:00
  and we don't know our power. But really, to me, the enemy of
• 24:04
  this movie, The reason that everything went wrong is because
• 24:09
  a super rich guy was like, well, I think dinosaurs are cool.
• 24:13
  And he had the money. And he had the money to make a
• 24:15
  problem for the world. Yeah, exactly.
• 24:17
  Yeah, I mean. Just like Tesla and electric
• 24:20
  cars. I mean Elon Musk and.
• 24:23
  Electric cars are the dinosaurs in.
• 24:24
  The city. We'll see.
• 24:25
  Time will tell. I feel like an electric.
• 24:27
  Heart. OK, there's something about the
• 24:33
  the depiction of the rich villain, because that that's
• 24:36
  also the same in all of the Jurassic Park movies.
• 24:38
  There's always a rich guy I. Feel like he's not really
• 24:41
  portrayed as a villain in this movie.
• 24:42
  Hammond Yeah. Well, he has his moment of
• 24:45
  redemption right at the end. Yeah, But he, I don't know, I
• 24:48
  think he's a villain. Who else is is?
• 24:51
  What do you think? The Raptors of the villain.
• 24:52
  OK, yeah, JD's all. JD's got Dino brain.
• 24:55
  It's all about the Dinos for you.
• 24:57
  Humans are incident. Oh, yeah, sorry.
• 24:59
  At Jurassic Park. It's not a picture of hand in
• 25:01
  that skull. It's not it's not an old guy
• 25:03
  skull right there, all right. It's a dinosaur.
• 25:05
  That's. Great.
• 25:06
  You know, I do feel like Nedry could kind of be considered the
• 25:11
  villain. Nedry's definitely human.
• 25:13
  Breed may be the real villain Hubris was.
• 25:18
  Really. The villain all.
• 25:19
  Along, I mean, you get, I mean, that's also very true.
• 25:21
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 25:23
  Well, yeah. Because you think Hammond kind
• 25:25
  of, I mean, very is the villain. I don't know about the main
• 25:27
  villain because he gets all these people come to this island
• 25:30
  because people are dying from what he's doing, right.
• 25:33
  And so the whole premise of it is that they're this guy's
• 25:35
  coming, the lawyers there because they want to, you know,
• 25:38
  check and make sure if it's safe because the investors don't want
• 25:40
  to keep investing in something that's killing people.
• 25:43
  And so he he gets Laura Dern and Sam Neil's character to come be
• 25:47
  on his side. He's like, hey, I have, you
• 25:49
  know, specialists in the field that he thinks we're just going
• 25:52
  to be overwhelmed by seeing the dinosaurs.
• 25:54
  And they're going to be on his side no matter what he thinks
• 25:56
  they'll be. You know, the wool will be
• 25:58
  pulled over their eyes and they won't be able to see the
• 26:00
  reality. He's going to fund their dig.
• 26:02
  Yeah, he throws money at it. Yeah.
• 26:04
  He's like, hey, it's OK, because guess what?
• 26:06
  I'm going to pay for this for three years.
• 26:07
  So that's why they. So he lures these people onto
• 26:10
  this island under false pretenses.
• 26:11
  And yeah, he is a villain. He is.
• 26:14
  I absolutely agree that he is a villain, but I don't think that
• 26:18
  he is portrayed as the villain. I think that Spielberg sees
• 26:22
  himself in Hammond and he doesn't want to be the villain.
• 26:25
  Well, Spielberg, it's This is why it's a good movie, because
• 26:28
  he's a complicated character. Like he recognizes that he made
• 26:31
  mistakes at the end of the film. That's an interesting arc.
• 26:34
  That's a. That's a.
• 26:35
  That's a compelling arc. They're like you could see your.
• 26:37
  Something I've made a mistake and you realized?
• 26:40
  It I mean he lets his grandchildren go out there and
• 26:44
  then when they're like your grandchildren are dying, are
• 26:46
  like in danger. He's like, let's not kill the
• 26:48
  don't get the lysine protocol, though, don't shoot them.
• 26:51
  He, I mean, he may have been, you know, more well served if
• 26:55
  one of his grandchildren died. Like, lesson learned.
• 26:57
  Yeah. That one of those kids should.
• 26:58
  Have died. I agree that one of those kids
• 27:00
  should have died. Absolutely.
• 27:01
  Which one would have raised the stakes?
• 27:02
  Oh my God, which one? I Timmy, I want Tim.
• 27:07
  I would rather. Like you want it?
• 27:09
  You want to get rid of Timmy Daydream?
• 27:11
  I think her Lex is better because she's the hacker.
• 27:13
  Yeah. I'm a hacker.
• 27:15
  She's a. Hacker great line.
• 27:16
  I remember oh iconic line. She.
• 27:19
  One of so many. I'm a hacker.
• 27:22
  I'm a hacker girls. Blinds I don't.
• 27:27
  Yeah. We all fall asleep.
• 27:30
  We all agree. Don't worry, we're all on the
• 27:32
  same team, everybody. If I could have found a purple
• 27:34
  hat, I would have come as her Lex.
• 27:36
  You think so? Yes, OK.
• 27:40
  I don't know about that, but yeah, I think that probably
• 27:42
  probably would have been best if we killed off Timmy because he's
• 27:46
  the youngest. He's the one that's most
• 27:48
  vulnerable. Don't love?
• 27:49
  Him as much. You don't love him as much.
• 27:52
  We have as much time. As he's hurt, I think he's more
• 27:54
  fun. They make him more fun.
• 27:56
  He's got a he's, you know, he's got a little sense of humor.
• 27:58
  The night goggles. The night goggles.
• 28:01
  He loves Dino facts. Yeah, and we did kind of need
• 28:04
  that too. Like, even though Lex is, you
• 28:08
  know, she's a hacker, famously, we still needed some of those
• 28:12
  dyno facts throughout the movie to really keep things running.
• 28:15
  For sure. Yeah, for sure.
• 28:17
  Couldn't have just given those to us.
• 28:19
  Because he's quoting facts from Grant's book, right?
• 28:21
  He's like, I read your book. It's like, it's different.
• 28:23
  Not that. So we could have quoting facts.
• 28:26
  Ever since we've done the dinosaur the the Jurassic Park
• 28:28
  rewatch, I've noticed it. Like basically everything anyone
• 28:32
  knows about dinosaurs if you talk to them is from Jurassic
• 28:35
  Jurassic. You know, I actually.
• 28:37
  Got dinosaurs or descended from birds?
• 28:40
  Thank you not. Distinctive from birds, they
• 28:42
  evolve in case of birds. I too have seen it's like the
• 28:46
  1993 Jurassic Park. You know, I actually, I listened
• 28:50
  to this All Things Considered story about how basically
• 28:55
  there's this like Jurassic Park generation of paleontologists
• 28:59
  that like paleontology is booming, that there's a bunch of
• 29:04
  scientists that enter the field being like, I loved Jurassic
• 29:07
  Park. I know one of these people,
• 29:10
  someone at the at Morrison out at the Dinosaur Ridge.
• 29:13
  I, we did an interview for the For City cast.
• 29:15
  That's so cool. And I was like, what's up with
• 29:17
  that paleontology these days? And she was like, there's too
• 29:19
  many, too many. Yeah.
• 29:21
  It's like nothing of super. Yeah.
• 29:23
  Yeah, it's super competitive, but they are discovering new
• 29:27
  dinosaur species. You know, it is like it's
• 29:31
  advancing the field, so that's cool.
• 29:35
  I heard some new Dinos are dropping in a couple of weeks in
• 29:37
  theaters. 2 headed Raptors is the is what the trailer is
• 29:41
  alluding to. Jurassic World Rebirth, JP 7A,
• 29:45
  KAJ, W4 we're all excited. And and we all.
• 29:50
  Winged Raptors, Scarlett Johansson, Scarlet.
• 29:54
  Also there How? What about fat guy equals bad
• 29:58
  guy? I let's talk about that.
• 30:00
  Didn't age well. Didn't age well because OK, I
• 30:03
  feel like maybe I'm wrong for this and if I am then sue me.
• 30:09
  You're wrong for this one, Molly.
• 30:14
  Yeah, what? The I.
• 30:16
  I really need my. Jay ZI.
• 30:19
  Like when villains are skinny. Like sinewy, weird looking.
• 30:25
  Like a Rami Malek. Yeah, I need them to be kind of
• 30:28
  like, I like a, a really cartoonish, like, skinny
• 30:32
  villain. I don't like, I don't like when
• 30:35
  they make the villains fat. And that's not even just from
• 30:38
  like a perspective of like, you know, I don't want us to be
• 30:41
  making fun of fat people. It's like, that's just really
• 30:44
  what I prefer. It's like skinny.
• 30:45
  People are gross. It's because skinny people are
• 30:48
  gross. It's not so true and I've always
• 30:50
  been saying that. Wayne Knight is jolly in his,
• 30:54
  you know, his physique. I, I don't think he has A and I
• 30:57
  like him as a villain. Yeah, because there's, you know,
• 31:00
  he really takes a lot of joy in doing bad.
• 31:03
  Anti hero I'd say more than villain.
• 31:05
  You think Nitri's an anti hero because he's stealing?
• 31:08
  What a villain is too harsh. But he doesn't.
• 31:11
  Really do anything that bad? Are you kidding?
• 31:14
  Stealing the Dino embryos to take it to some other company,
• 31:16
  Yeah. Because Hammond isn't paying him
• 31:18
  enough. OK, you know what's crazy is
• 31:19
  that he said a million times that movie spared no expense,
• 31:22
  but he did not. Yeah, he was way like, yeah.
• 31:26
  But you could, you couldn't just like give him another 10 grand,
• 31:30
  Yeah. And do an allery.
• 31:32
  I thought that was crazy. And he's like, your money
• 31:34
  problems are actually your. Fault.
• 31:35
  You're right. Yeah, pay workers what they're
• 31:37
  worth. Billionaire so I felt like even
• 31:42
  though there were no explicit fat jokes, they did play on some
• 31:47
  some stereotypes like he's a slob, he's going to spend 20
• 31:52
  minutes at the vending machine. You know, he moved fat guy falls
• 31:57
  don't love that. I felt like for the 90s, it
• 32:02
  could have been so much worse, you know?
• 32:04
  Sure, Yeah, yeah, it could have been a lot worse.
• 32:05
  And I mean, we were talking off Mike about how he is really,
• 32:08
  he's moving. He's not capable.
• 32:11
  He's capable. He's like, you know, he's
• 32:14
  running. He crashes the Jeep and then he
• 32:16
  puts the winch around the stump and he's he's going up and down.
• 32:20
  Yeah, he's he's doing they. Do they do the physical gag of
• 32:23
  like fat guy falls? But up until that point, it's
• 32:26
  like he wasn't just a stumbling idiot, yeah.
• 32:30
  Yeah, yeah. I think you're right though, it
• 32:31
  could have been worse. There's no trans panic in
• 32:34
  Jurassic. Park no gay panic no gay That's
• 32:36
  also a big 90s thing. That's good.
• 32:39
  Watch a friend's episode, guys. Gay panic is.
• 32:43
  Yeah, totally. Yeah, but it could have as far
• 32:46
  as like the fat jokes go, no one, no one like outwardly was
• 32:52
  like, hey fatty, you know which for a 90s movie.
• 32:57
  I think Hammond at one point teases him about eating or like
• 33:00
  eating candy. Oh.
• 33:02
  So am I remembering that wrong as usually?
• 33:05
  He was like, look at your desk. It's like he said something
• 33:07
  about him having butterfingers. Actually, they would have been.
• 33:11
  OK. And he was like, you know,
• 33:13
  Dumble on Conned. A dumble on tond.
• 33:16
  Yeah, about because it was the first time they go into the park
• 33:19
  and all of his stuff has to be working right?
• 33:20
  And it's not so. And then also he's doing a fat
• 33:23
  joke. And also he.
• 33:24
  Yeah. You get it, Paul.
• 33:26
  Should I explain it more skinny to?
• 33:29
  Understand what? Is a candy bar that you can buy?
• 33:32
  No. You stopped me dead in my tracks
• 33:36
  with double entendre. Never really would say it like
• 33:41
  that before. It's funny.
• 33:42
  Yeah, OK, what about what about hot chicks as screensavers?
• 33:46
  Did that age well? Because on his computer there's
• 33:48
  a yeah, there's a bikini clad woman just on there.
• 33:52
  It's like a screensaver. It's just a picture he's got on
• 33:54
  the. Screen It seems like really the
• 33:56
  only woman who we meet is. Turn around like a computer.
• 34:00
  There's not if there's a bikini person on there.
• 34:03
  Yeah. Look, it's age well.
• 34:05
  You know what this is? You did.
• 34:06
  Go ahead, you don't have to. No, no, I'm going to show you
• 34:09
  what it is. It's a really nice picture of
• 34:11
  me. Simple.
• 34:14
  This case isn't that nice. It's a Apple default kind of,
• 34:21
  you know, blue. Very water.
• 34:24
  Yeah, yeah, could. Be the Royal Gorge right there.
• 34:26
  That could be the Royal Gorge. It could be could be the Grand
• 34:30
  Canyon. Anyway, so it's not, it's not a
• 34:34
  hot girl. But I do think that that perhaps
• 34:40
  he isn't. He hasn't seen a woman in
• 34:42
  months. You know, I mean, they're on
• 34:44
  that island by themselves. I mean, this is a secluded
• 34:46
  island, yeah. You're right.
• 34:47
  You're right. So I mean so you forgive.
• 34:49
  Him. Yeah.
• 34:51
  I do. I'm kind of like, yeah, I get
• 34:55
  it. I mean, in a workplace.
• 34:58
  Thank you. That's really, that's really
• 35:00
  like not good. If I had a Co worker who had
• 35:02
  like a hot woman as a screensaver, I'd say I don't
• 35:07
  like that that's inappropriate. He had, I seen it wasn't for
• 35:11
  months. I'll see that it's OK.
• 35:13
  I don't know, maybe. Jeeps.
• 35:19
  Jeeps did that age well. The Jeep design.
• 35:21
  I think so they're. Pretty cool looking jeeps.
• 35:23
  I mean, I would, I would think somebody who had a Jurassic Park
• 35:27
  Jeep, I would judge them for that.
• 35:29
  There is that person around Denver that has one that drives.
• 35:31
  Around that, that is true and I judge them.
• 35:34
  He gets the people talking. It's true.
• 35:36
  I mean, whenever we talk about Jurassic Park to any civilians
• 35:40
  out there, they want to talk about it.
• 35:42
  You know, it's weird that the Jeep has lingered as a thing
• 35:45
  from the movie. There's something about that
• 35:46
  design and the color scheme. Yeah, especially because it's
• 35:49
  not the only car in the movie. There's a lot of Explorers.
• 35:55
  Yeah. No one's talking about Ford
• 35:57
  Explorers like they're talking about the Jeeps in Jurassic
• 35:59
  Park. Yeah, you don't see them
• 36:01
  explored, you know, Jurassic parked up.
• 36:04
  No, you don't. So smoking indoors, huh?
• 36:10
  At that age, Sam Sam Jackson had that.
• 36:12
  He's so cool. Cigar wagon the whole time he
• 36:15
  did he. He worked.
• 36:16
  It it is surprising to see people smoking inside sometimes.
• 36:19
  It's also surprising in movies to see people like when smoking
• 36:23
  was so ubiquitous that people, like, talk with cigarettes in
• 36:27
  their mouths. No hands, just just talking, you
• 36:31
  know? Yeah, yeah, that seems so
• 36:33
  addicted. Cigarettes are bad, OK.
• 36:37
  They can't stop getting that nicotine hint.
• 36:39
  No, but it is. It is definitely a marker of him
• 36:43
  being very cool or bad. I mean, I thought that was
• 36:46
  shorthand for smoking is a bad guy thing.
• 36:49
  I absolutely did not see it that way, no.
• 36:51
  I don't. Yeah, he was a.
• 36:52
  Good guy it. Would be today if they made a
• 36:54
  movie today and they made a character smoke, that would be a
• 36:57
  signal for. Sam Neill famously said in one
• 37:00
  of these interviews that he when he read that that character was
• 37:04
  smoking a cigarette in the script, he knew that character
• 37:07
  was going to die because that's like shorthand.
• 37:10
  Well. Interesting.
• 37:11
  Yeah, because he was too cool to live.
• 37:13
  I can't. Yeah.
• 37:14
  Yeah. Sam Jackson, too cool to live.
• 37:17
  Although we haven't seen a body. You know, they famously say, you
• 37:19
  know, you don't see no, but you don't see a body.
• 37:21
  They could be alive. I like to bring him.
• 37:23
  Sam Jackson might come back and rebirth.
• 37:25
  That's my prediction. That would rule Sam.
• 37:27
  Jackson not. Going to.
• 37:28
  He's not going to. That man was dead.
• 37:31
  OK, he only saw an arm. Arm.
• 37:32
  He only saw an arm. Yeah, he's gonna have a cool
• 37:34
  robot arm. That that would be safe the arm,
• 37:38
  the. Remaining arm suggests that the
• 37:41
  rest of him is inside the belly of there's.
• 37:44
  There is a strong suggestions that he was eating, but what if
• 37:48
  he wasn't? The what?
• 37:50
  I like this conspiracy a little bit.
• 37:52
  All right, let's keep that. Going what if, yeah, what if
• 37:55
  he's alive and he's orchestrating some saw like
• 38:00
  thing? That's why he keeps bringing all
• 38:01
  of them back to the island to kill them out of revenge.
• 38:04
  And he's really been the one, yeah.
• 38:06
  He's been public mastering them all behind the the whole thing.
• 38:09
  I think that would be disappointing to me if that was
• 38:11
  what the new movie was about. I think that would be a shame.
• 38:15
  I'd be bummed. Yeah, I'd be bummed.
• 38:17
  That's like that's why we be we keep coming back here, not
• 38:21
  because of like the constant trap and loop of hubris and
• 38:27
  where it gets us, you know? OK, let's talk about let's talk
• 38:34
  about woman inherits the Earth. OK, so, so I like that Lex is a
• 38:41
  hacker. I like that that we don't have
• 38:45
  to have a romantic subplot for Sattler to be an important
• 38:49
  character in this plot. I like that she is actually very
• 38:54
  smart and capable. You don't.
• 38:57
  Do you not think that they were an item Sattler and Grant had?
• 39:01
  No, but just because they just because they are together
• 39:04
  doesn't mean it's a romantic subplot.
• 39:06
  It wasn't like, will they won't they or like throughout the
• 39:09
  movie, they're getting together. It seemed like when they
• 39:12
  arrived, they were already a couple, you know?
• 39:14
  Yeah, So. And she was there not because
• 39:18
  she was just tagging along with him, but because of her
• 39:22
  knowledge of Paleobot. Yeah, equal expert.
• 39:26
  Equal expert. Yeah, so that's cool.
• 39:29
  There's still a couple things where I'm like, it was the 90s
• 39:32
  mostly, that she continued to look perfect and beautiful
• 39:37
  throughout the whole thing. Yeah, that's mostly.
• 39:42
  And also like that there were a couple parts where they were
• 39:44
  like, it's feminism, am I right? Like the woman inherits the
• 39:48
  Earth thing where it's like. I thought that was a strange
• 39:50
  beat. Do you know the whole line?
• 39:52
  Do you remember this? Yeah, God creates dinosaurs, God
• 39:54
  destroys dinosaurs, God creates man, man brings back dinosaurs,
• 39:58
  and then dinosaurs destroy man and woman inherits the earth.
• 40:02
  Yeah, interesting line. When I went and saw this, I saw
• 40:05
  this at Film on the Rocks and there and when she said that
• 40:09
  line, everyone went. So I think that's kind of, I
• 40:14
  don't know, I think that speaks for itself that people really,
• 40:17
  people really like it. I like it, it's great.
• 40:20
  I think it's cool. It feels good.
• 40:22
  It feels good, but it's also kind of like, OK, so.
• 40:26
  So what are we? Doing now what are we doing?
• 40:28
  Yeah, exactly. He's a little performative.
• 40:30
  I mean, it's not like there's any outcomes from it.
• 40:34
  No, it's just a statement. It's not.
• 40:36
  Yeah, she's not taking control of anything at any point.
• 40:39
  She's not. Running the electricity going, I
• 40:42
  mean, she does go out and do that, does that, Yeah, she does
• 40:45
  get the. Intricity going, she does
• 40:48
  diagnose the triceratops. Is that what it is?
• 40:53
  I mean, Jay, investigate, there's no conclusion.
• 40:55
  There's no diagnosing. She gets her arm deep in that
• 40:59
  pilot. Glyceral scene, yes.
• 41:02
  I read an oral history of the movie and one of Lauren Dern's
• 41:05
  quotes was she was just telling a story about how people on the
• 41:08
  street when they recognize her, they stay asked to smell her
• 41:12
  hands. Oh wow.
• 41:14
  Because they have imagined her. It's so distinctive the way she
• 41:18
  plunges her hand. So when you remember, you not
• 41:20
  remember that she has a like an elbow long well.
• 41:24
  This is what she. Said I guess she's got an arm
• 41:26
  condom on. Yeah, yeah, I'm.
• 41:28
  Not speaking for the people on the street.
• 41:30
  I'm different, yeah. Thought maybe it was like a kind
• 41:33
  of a Berenstain Bear, things that they don't recall the
• 41:36
  glove. Or something like we all just
• 41:38
  imagined that. It would have been even cooler
• 41:40
  if there was no glove. Will they bring back the imagine
• 41:43
  scene if she. Rebirth she did have like, I
• 41:46
  mean, it was she had the glove on, but like there were there
• 41:50
  were little bits getting on her leg.
• 41:52
  Like she was like kind of, she was hunched down in a weird way
• 41:55
  and then she was like putting her arm on her knee like some
• 41:57
  like. There's definitely, there was
• 41:58
  definitely contamination, yeah. Did you do a poop scene in JP
• 42:04
  Three? Also something to look forward
• 42:06
  to for you, Molly. Thank you very much and I do
• 42:09
  look forward to that do. You remember what they were
• 42:10
  digging before, OK. You can skip that one, no?
• 42:13
  It worse one. A good one.
• 42:14
  JP 3 suck. Worst of watch did not age well.
• 42:18
  Do you, can you commit to us right now that you're going to
• 42:20
  watch the rest of the beast? Molly, can you do this for us?
• 42:24
  What do what? What's my timeline?
• 42:26
  What's you know? Within the year.
• 42:28
  Within the year, yeah. OK, I can do that.
• 42:30
  Nice. You can you can have that and I
• 42:32
  want a whole friend. I'm not in bed weekend us we.
• 42:35
  Got a fan? Yeah.
• 42:37
  Thank you, enjoy. It.
• 42:38
  I'll promise to JD. I'm not going to promise to you
• 42:41
  because you know he doesn't. Care because you don't care
• 42:44
  whether you don't care at all. And thank you for that.
• 42:47
  OK, Can we talk about the visuals for a minute?
• 42:49
  I know that we have we're a little split on what we think
• 42:52
  about the CGI, but I want to talk specifically about how the
• 42:58
  dinosaurs appear. So I guess there were some
• 43:02
  scientific advisors that were like, hey, this is what
• 43:05
  dinosaurs actually look like. And Spielberg was like, thanks,
• 43:08
  but no thanks. I'm just going to make them kind
• 43:11
  of how I think they would look good cinematically and I'm cool
• 43:15
  with that. I don't care if it really looks
• 43:17
  like what a real dinosaur looked like.
• 43:19
  Sorry nerds, but that I actually I really thought that they're
• 43:24
  like herky jerky puppet movements were they seemed like
• 43:29
  dinosaurs to me. I don't imagine a dinosaur
• 43:32
  moving with like fluidity. I imagine a dinosaur being kind
• 43:37
  of herky jerky. I don't.
• 43:38
  I don't get the herky jerky part, I thought.
• 43:42
  I know what you mean. Raptors are like looking for the
• 43:45
  kids and they're like. They kind of move like birds.
• 43:48
  That's the bird thing. Yeah, that's bird influence.
• 43:51
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 43:52
  In the special features for Jurassic World, they have guys
• 43:56
  dressed up in blue suits and they have, like a Raptor helmet.
• 44:00
  And so they're running around and the director keeps telling
• 44:04
  him to think more like birds, not like a lizard, not like a
• 44:06
  dog. When you're moving, you want to
• 44:08
  do the jerky motions like a bird.
• 44:10
  OK, so, but let me let me just. Direction.
• 44:13
  Let me just remind you that 2 minutes ago you said I don't get
• 44:17
  the herky jerky. Well, because I didn't think
• 44:19
  they moved herky. I thought you were saying like
• 44:20
  animatronics were herky jerky. Oh, I see.
• 44:23
  So that's what I was thinking. OK, OK, OK, so.
• 44:27
  Can I come in on the the Spielberg?
• 44:28
  You may no the the visuals that is such a key decision by him.
• 44:34
  Yeah, to be like, fuck what you think they actually look like.
• 44:38
  I'm making them how I think I'm. Making a history movie.
• 44:41
  I'm making Jurassic. Park.
• 44:43
  It's a movie about a theme park. It's a movie about genetically
• 44:47
  modified dinosaurs. Yeah.
• 44:50
  Maybe they didn't design them exactly the way that dinosaurs
• 44:54
  were back then. Maybe they're the frog DNA make
• 44:57
  some kind of, you know. Exactly, this is the cool part
• 45:00
  about the whole story is it's not real.
• 45:02
  It's what our idea is, what Hammond's idea of what a
• 45:06
  dinosaur was at the time or as the one good part of JP 3 is.
• 45:11
  Alan Grant is giving a speech. He's a professor and he's
• 45:14
  talking about his latest book about his terrible experience on
• 45:18
  Isla Nublar, and to some students that he's like John
• 45:20
  Hammond's D Extincted monsters are not dinosaurs.
• 45:24
  That's like, yeah, that's a good point.
• 45:26
  They're not dinosaurs. They're just like weird bio bio.
• 45:29
  And that gets brought up with the direwolf whole situation
• 45:34
  that happened earlier this year. Yeah.
• 45:36
  Don't mean to date the podcast, but, you know, they're not
• 45:40
  actual direwolfs, you know? Yeah.
• 45:42
  Yeah, it's interesting. Interesting shit.
• 45:45
  Big ideas. It's the best part of this shit.
• 45:47
  Wait, Speaking of theme parks, have either of you guys been on
• 45:50
  any of like the Jurassic Park rides at theme parks?
• 45:53
  Any of the attractions. I think I went to Universal a
• 45:57
  couple years ago and like five years ago and the Jurassic Park
• 46:01
  ride had been turned into a King Kong ride because the King Kong
• 46:05
  movie had just gone or something.
• 46:07
  So yeah, it didn't get a Jurassic Park at that.
• 46:10
  Sorry to hear that. I would just go back to the
• 46:13
  Spielberg making up his own. No, no, I just what because I
• 46:16
  was saying that he kept wanting to make up dinosaurs.
• 46:19
  I heard was reading somewhere or listening to something.
• 46:21
  He kept wanting to just make him up at a whole cloth.
• 46:22
  And they kept having to be like, no, no, let's actually just have
• 46:25
  real dinosaurs. But the the dinosaur that spits
• 46:29
  the venom and has the thing that's that's the only fully
• 46:32
  just made-up dinosaur. Oh, OK.
• 46:34
  For Jurassic Park, the that's based it on the name right now,
• 46:39
  the Brachios. No, not Brachiosaurus.
• 46:41
  Salivosaurus. It's gonna kill me.
• 46:44
  That's not it. That's not it.
• 46:45
  But that would be. Listeners, that's not it.
• 46:47
  OK, just I love that. Could have been it.
• 46:49
  We could have all been like, yeah, that was it.
• 46:51
  Yeah, no, it didn't have. I could have.
• 46:55
  I did the dinosaur right at Water World.
• 46:58
  That's like kind of Jurassic, probably.
• 47:00
  Yeah, that's right. It's Jurassic Park adjacent for
• 47:02
  sure. Yeah.
• 47:03
  They're supposed to. Be center Mersevic games else in
• 47:05
  the 90s. Yeah, there's that riot age.
• 47:07
  Well, no. No, those really.
• 47:10
  That one. I remember going on it when I
• 47:12
  was 10 years old and I was so scared, I cried the whole time.
• 47:18
  That's a Molly problem, everybody.
• 47:20
  That's not a, it's not an overall, it's experience of the
• 47:23
  rifle. Waterworld.
• 47:24
  It's part of it. It's fun.
• 47:25
  Awesome. It's really have you ever been
• 47:27
  on that that toilet bowl thing at Waterworld?
• 47:30
  OK, that too. Haven't cried, thank God.
• 47:35
  Waterworld's kids are scared can be traumatic though.
• 47:37
  Because I was scared? No.
• 47:39
  No. Because it was so beautiful.
• 47:40
  I got scared of drowning or like what's the fear?
• 47:43
  Yeah, it was like scared of drowning, scared of small
• 47:45
  spaces, you know, I feel like it's pretty.
• 47:49
  I mean, this is a scary movie. To recreate something like that,
• 47:54
  it should be scary. A 10 year old should cry, right?
• 47:58
  You know. Spielberg walk to fine light
• 48:00
  because it is a scary movie, it's a horror movie, it's.
• 48:04
  An action movie. I I think Spielberg would argue
• 48:07
  it's a horror. And he says the fifth one is
• 48:09
  like the most horror movie. And I watch it and I'm like.
• 48:12
  This is, Yeah. What if I was listening to the
• 48:14
  director talking? Yeah, it's.
• 48:15
  It is maybe a thriller. Maybe they have all.
• 48:19
  These Dino deaths, I mean, these are monster kills, but Spielberg
• 48:23
  walks that line. So finally you don't get scared.
• 48:26
  I was scared I had. Yeah, as a child you might be
• 48:28
  scared yet. Nightmare or last night way?
• 48:30
  8 nightmare is that it was like a chasing I I think it's because
• 48:35
  like the did you say I'm a child at heart yeah and thank you so
• 48:38
  much for that. I I had AI had a dream that I
• 48:42
  was like being chased through the airport.
• 48:44
  And I think that it's because of like, you know, all the chasing
• 48:48
  and from this movie. Was it Raptors or T rex's?
• 48:50
  Don't remember all, I remember Raptors.
• 48:53
  Are running probably Raptors, Yeah, they're famously fast.
• 48:56
  Fast, fast. That'd be a good scene in a
• 49:00
  Jurassic Park movie, going into an airport and you're running to
• 49:03
  get on the plane. I mean, that was kind of
• 49:06
  anxious. Grabs, grabs your plane and
• 49:08
  goes. Yeah, just like Tom Cruise and
• 49:13
  Mission Impossible, it's holding on to the side of the plane.
• 49:16
  Just like that. But it's a Raptor.
• 49:17
  But it could be a Raptor anyway, so don't want to give Hollywood
• 49:22
  any free ideas, am I right? I see you looking at your notes,
• 49:26
  JD. What do you got on your mind?
• 49:28
  I mean, I, you know, I just had some thoughts.
• 49:30
  I didn't want to make sure I didn't leave anything out.
• 49:32
  Well, I love that Buster Keaton esque scene where the the
• 49:38
  explorers falling down from the tree and Timmy and Grant are
• 49:43
  trying to get down and it's so when it falls over, you know,
• 49:46
  they dodge it or that whatever they don't get hurt by going
• 49:49
  into where the sunroof would have been.
• 49:52
  Yeah, and they make it out alive.
• 49:55
  I don't know how a better way to explain that scene to anybody.
• 49:58
  I don't think there's a more elegant.
• 50:00
  Way you guys. Yeah, it's classic Spielberg.
• 50:04
  Paul doesn't. Remember that scene?
• 50:06
  I could see his face. He's like, I'm just going to
• 50:09
  change the subject. No, I know what you're talking
• 50:13
  about. I've seen Jurassic Park.
• 50:15
  He's. Seen it?
• 50:17
  I thought that was a great scene and it was an homage to, you
• 50:19
  know, film classics, which is something Spielberg does quite a
• 50:23
  bit and a lot of Indiana Jones stuff.
• 50:25
  You know what I wish that he did kind of give a little homage to
• 50:30
  is, you know, in John Hughes movies where like if someone
• 50:33
  gets electrocuted, they it's like a skeleton, you know what I
• 50:37
  mean? I wish that when when little
• 50:40
  Timmy is electrocuted that we would have just got a little
• 50:45
  flash of his skeleton. I thought would have been so
• 50:48
  funny. It's not very Spielberg, but it
• 50:51
  would have been funny. Getting that home alone.
• 50:54
  Yeah, home alone, too. Lost in New York.
• 50:56
  They do a scene where that happens.
• 50:57
  It's very funny. It's very funny.
• 50:59
  Paul, can you check it out with Sattler that into Grant, do you
• 51:04
  think? I think that they were, you
• 51:06
  know, partners in science, partners in life.
• 51:08
  I felt like they were. Partners in life.
• 51:11
  Yeah. Spoiler they don't stay
• 51:12
  together. Oh, and I guess partners for
• 51:16
  now. Partners.
• 51:17
  For now, I feel like they've been together in the film like
• 51:20
  probably a couple of years. Oh, I think longer.
• 51:22
  I think a decade, yeah. Decade.
• 51:24
  Yeah. Wow.
• 51:26
  People who are very established in their, you know, there wasn't
• 51:29
  a lot of romance, which is why she got so hot for that moment
• 51:33
  of the chaos theory. You know, she's like, no one's
• 51:36
  touched my hair like that in years.
• 51:39
  But I do think that they were like they were in love.
• 51:43
  I do think that they, well, maybe not in I think they loved
• 51:45
  each other. But maybe not in love, huh?
• 51:48
  Maybe. Well, now that I know.
• 51:50
  Now that I know that they did end up.
• 51:53
  Another why you have to watch JP three if they establish where
• 51:56
  they all are and why they're not together.
• 51:59
  Sure goes off and she has kids with another man.
• 52:01
  Wow. And then once.
• 52:03
  He didn't want kids, yeah, but he had that he can't give up to
• 52:07
  do. It's like the one arc.
• 52:08
  Those kids that he liked him, I don't think he liked kids.
• 52:12
  He went he trauma bonded with these kids specifically.
• 52:15
  I don't know. I think that we were supposed to
• 52:17
  see it as an arc for him. You know I.
• 52:19
  Think so because I'm sorry, am I boring?
• 52:23
  Huge yon by apologist to the listeners.
• 52:26
  It was very subtle and I am so sorry.
• 52:29
  That was a dinosaur roar that was roaring like AT Rex.
• 52:32
  Yeah, put that in in post. Yeah, we'll put that in post.
• 52:38
  Nick Jacob put that in. So what was I saying?
• 52:43
  I'm we're talking about the love of Sattler and Grella.
• 52:46
  Love that. Died Shoot.
• 52:50
  There's a great love story in the Hughes, or I mean the Howard
• 52:53
  trilogy. Oh yeah, the Howard Pratt love
• 52:55
  story. That's part of why I like JW.
• 52:58
  One Jurassic World is there's kissing at the end.
• 53:00
  Oh. I see why he's kissing like in
• 53:02
  the middle, yeah. It's good.
• 53:04
  It's good. This.
• 53:05
  Is in the middle just for the listener?
• 53:07
  What? They don't kiss at the end, they
• 53:08
  kiss in the middle. There's kissing in the, there's
• 53:10
  kissing in it. There's folks, there's kissing
• 53:13
  in the movie. It's good.
• 53:14
  Yeah. And it's nice to have romance.
• 53:17
  I I felt like the first movie, that's maybe the one thing that
• 53:19
  it was missing. I, I like that it didn't have
• 53:21
  romance. I like that it was about, you
• 53:25
  know, making sure that the kids were OK, that it was about, you
• 53:30
  know, friendship, respect. I don't know.
• 53:33
  I just, I'm glad that I didn't really need a romantic subplot.
• 53:37
  Thank God they have so many other Jurassic Park movies to
• 53:41
  get to give us that. But in this one, I think
• 53:43
  especially because we had, like, a token woman, I'm glad that her
• 53:47
  purpose was not just like, the hour.
• 53:49
  This is a romantic subplot. If there was a romantic
• 53:55
  storyline, I do think it might be between Robert Muldoon, the
• 53:58
  game warden of Jurassic Park, and the Velociraptor. 100%,
• 54:05
  absolutely OK. What does that look like, JD?
• 54:08
  What is that relationship like? OK, you saw shape of.
• 54:10
  Wire whack. We'll just say that, yes.
• 54:13
  So, well, Dune lying in the forest, they're spooning.
• 54:17
  They're in. The yeah, when we didn't see a
• 54:19
  body. Yeah, you did.
• 54:24
  You did. No, because that's what the fuck
• 54:27
  Spielberg does so good. He like, covers it up with like
• 54:29
  a leaf or like some kind of branch so you don't see them
• 54:32
  actually killing. You see it shaking, but you
• 54:35
  don't see the death. And that's why he rides that
• 54:36
  line. It can be PG13, but these crazy
• 54:40
  deaths are happening. Yeah, monsters are eating people
• 54:43
  alive. That's not horrifying to you
• 54:45
  guys. OK, yeah, but the fact that it's
• 54:48
  not really shown explicitly makes it not a horror movie.
• 54:53
  It's an action thriller. OK.
• 54:55
  All right. Don't you think there's an
• 54:57
  action thriller? What genre would you say this
• 54:59
  movie is? Science fiction sci-fi thriller.
• 55:03
  Sci-fi thriller? Yeah.
• 55:06
  OK, OK. It was scary to me.
• 55:09
  Look I also just because you're scared in a movie doesn't make
• 55:13
  it horror. Oh, oh what?
• 55:16
  About that brought. Out.
• 55:18
  This is freaking Hedy. What?
• 55:19
  Is it next to you then? A thriller.
• 55:23
  OK, OK. You're, you're thinking about
• 55:25
  what section you go to at the Blockbuster.
• 55:28
  Yeah, not how you feel internally about it.
• 55:31
  Yeah, yeah. I don't think that like How I'm
• 55:34
  feeling defines the genre of the movie.
• 55:38
  Well, I agree to disagree, you know.
• 55:41
  OK, no no comment on this is between you 2 all.
• 55:45
  Right. Whatever.
• 55:46
  Enjoy. No idea.
• 55:49
  That's funny. You really agey.
• 55:50
  Ask a philosopher. I don't know.
• 55:52
  It doesn't matter to me what the genre is.
• 55:54
  Dino Action. Dino Action.
• 55:56
  Which is not what he comes for. He comes for the sci-fi nerd
• 55:59
  stuff. Yeah, it's been in our last
• 56:01
  episode and I'll say to the listeners here say.
• 56:03
  It again. I'll, I'll say it loud and proud
• 56:05
  from the tallest mountaintops. Yeah, the dinosaurs are the
• 56:09
  worst part of Jurassic Park. What?
• 56:15
  What? Enjoy.
• 56:16
  That's my take. All of.
• 56:18
  The yeah, typing to the worst. There's those one scene at the
• 56:21
  end of JW 6, AKA JW 3 Dominion, where there's some fucking
• 56:28
  dinosaurs that are fighting and then Grant and like this, the
• 56:32
  whole cast from the whole series, they're all back
• 56:34
  together. They run away from the Dinos and
• 56:36
  then Grant's like, it's not about us.
• 56:39
  And I'm like, yeah, the fucking dinosaur fighting each other.
• 56:43
  That's not about the humans. That which is what I care about.
• 56:46
  That's what I can relate to. Yeah, I don't it doesn't it?
• 56:49
  The dinosaurs are just there to be a threat.
• 56:52
  So although you identify more as a Raptor than AT Rex, you you
• 56:57
  really would say you're more of a of a people guy.
• 57:03
  Yeah, I mean it's nailed it. T Rex Raptor above that and then
• 57:07
  human. Yeah, that's what I would
• 57:09
  identify as it relate to. Yeah, it for sure.
• 57:11
  When you see this movie, you say, I see myself in, you would
• 57:15
  say a human. One of the one of the humans.
• 57:17
  Yeah, and that's interesting. What about you?
• 57:20
  I What do I see? Myself, yeah.
• 57:21
  Do you see yourself more as a human or dinosaur when you watch
• 57:25
  this movie? No.
• 57:27
  And it's got to go, you know, as a human.
• 57:29
  OK, Identify with the human jam OK, but I'm hungry a lot, you
• 57:33
  know, sometimes I'm just out there looking for my next meal
• 57:36
  and for. A.
• 57:37
  Snack. Yeah, I do love sometimes I go
• 57:39
  shark eyes when I see, you know, ice cream in the water.
• 57:42
  Yeah. But I was something we ask on
• 57:45
  the podcast, Would you go to Jurassic Park?
• 57:46
  If it was a real thing and you could go there?
• 57:48
  Would you go there? No.
• 57:50
  No, of course not. None of none of the people are
• 57:52
  dying. Got out.
• 57:54
  No, I would not go OK, I would say that.
• 57:57
  Yeah, you're crying at water parks so.
• 57:59
  You're already, you're already scared.
• 58:01
  I'm a wimp. OK, That was I want to remind
• 58:04
  the listeners I was 10. OK, you haven't gone back.
• 58:08
  So water? No, I've been back since then.
• 58:11
  OK, that didn't cry. But you didn't enjoy it?
• 58:12
  Yeah, OK. You enjoyed it more now.
• 58:14
  Of course. Yeah, Cool.
• 58:15
  I really love theme parks. I love roller coasters.
• 58:18
  I like the thrill of being scared at a theme park.
• 58:22
  Now. When I was a kid, I was big old
• 58:25
  wimp. Yeah, I hated roller coasters as
• 58:27
  well. Can I drop a little truth bomb
• 58:29
  on the group here? How many people die in Jurassic
• 58:32
  Park? The first one.
• 58:34
  Yeah. How many?
• 58:35
  We got one in the beginning. Are we assuming Sam Jackson?
• 58:37
  'S dense. Yeah, we have to assume that all
• 58:40
  the people who are presumed dead or dead.
• 58:43
  OK, OK, We're not gonna get into this.
• 58:45
  Oh, I didn't see the body so it doesn't count.
• 58:47
  OK, but what I the guy at the beginning he counts the.
• 58:51
  Worker. Yeah, yeah, there's the worker,
• 58:52
  There's the lawyer. Samuel Jackson Muldoon.
• 58:56
  Muldoon. Did we say it's a lawyer
• 58:58
  already? Yeah, OK.
• 59:00
  There's. That might be it.
• 59:03
  No, because I didn't count Nedri.
• 59:07
  Nedri. Yeah.
• 59:08
  Oh, Nedri, yeah, for sure. So it's like 5.
• 59:12
  I think it's. Ten, 5:00-ish.
• 59:14
  Five that you see on screen. The number of people that have
• 59:16
  died at Disney World is 64. Well, yeah, because Disney
• 59:21
  World's been around a long time. That was 5 people in one day.
• 59:24
  OK, all right. Disney World, also 3.
• 59:27
  People die on rise? Or did they die just of natural
• 59:31
  causes and they happened to be a Disney?
• 59:33
  World, that's a different podcast.
• 59:34
  You know, and I feel like someone got a heat stroke and
• 59:37
  they happened to be a Disney World.
• 59:38
  Does that count toward the death toll of Disney World?
• 59:40
  Should but. They're all in the spinning
• 59:42
  teacups, actually. All 64.
• 59:45
  Those things are killers, yeah. That'd be a crazy podcast to do
• 59:49
  to researching all the deaths that have happened at
• 59:51
  Disneyland. I'm sure someone's doing it.
• 59:53
  That's crazy. I'm curious, what do we call?
• 59:55
  It how it happened. You call it.
• 59:57
  It's a small world after. All.
• 59:58
  There you go, Call it. Finds a way.
• 1:00:02
  Mickey Mickey's murder house. The happiest place on Earth
• 1:00:05
  question mark. Yeah, these are all good.
• 1:00:07
  These are all going. You got you got the touch right
• 1:00:10
  now. These are good.
• 1:00:11
  I love it. Thank you.
• 1:00:13
  Thank you. What else?
• 1:00:14
  What else do you have on on your lips?
• 1:00:17
  That's pretty much all them. I think it's, I think we hit all
• 1:00:20
  the the big ones. I wanted to hit, yeah.
• 1:00:24
  What about that brand of ice cream that that's melting, that
• 1:00:28
  Hammond is eating in that case? Like the shake?
• 1:00:30
  Jugs, this is oh, what's that? Because in the book he's always
• 1:00:35
  talking about his chef that he's got on the island and the chef
• 1:00:38
  has made a ginger ice cream that he keeps trying to get everybody
• 1:00:41
  to eat. And so I think that was a little
• 1:00:44
  nod to it because he's, you know, the the electricity is
• 1:00:46
  down at this point. So he takes healthy ice cream
• 1:00:49
  out of the freezer and he's just like eating tubs of it.
• 1:00:51
  Totally. And then Laura Dern even says
• 1:00:53
  it's good. He was.
• 1:00:54
  So he was. He was.
• 1:00:55
  So annoying about the Chilean sea bass.
• 1:00:57
  And he's like, let's go have lunch.
• 1:00:58
  We're going to have Chilean sea bass.
• 1:00:59
  I was like, shut up, grandpa, we know what's for lunch, OK?
• 1:01:05
  A Nosh fan, yeah. In general.
• 1:01:08
  In general, yeah. You don't like eating fish from
• 1:01:10
  Colorado Landlocked Say, baby I've known Michaela for.
• 1:01:13
  Years. I've never known this about you.
• 1:01:15
  Have you ever made ginger ice cream?
• 1:01:17
  No no, I have been making a bunch of ice cream recently and.
• 1:01:20
  This is a great topic for JD, yeah.
• 1:01:23
  This is Bay for Jimmy. I mean, I love it again, but no,
• 1:01:26
  ginger ginger's not wouldn't be my go to.
• 1:01:29
  Not a big ginger fan. And then it's like, did you make
• 1:01:31
  a spicy ginger or how do you just?
• 1:01:33
  Add well. Ginger is spicy.
• 1:01:36
  I don't know how you can make. I don't know how white you are,
• 1:01:39
  but Ginger's spicy, Yeah. Sometimes you eat like a ginger
• 1:01:46
  candy or something and you get like more of a spice to it.
• 1:01:49
  So if you have like a, you know, pickled ginger on your on your
• 1:01:54
  sushi, well, you certainly on your Walmart sushi.
• 1:01:56
  Pickled ginger or your ice cream?
• 1:01:58
  I don't know if you know about that, but.
• 1:02:01
  You know about that? About pickled ginger I.
• 1:02:04
  Think in ice. You know that you should.
• 1:02:05
  I don't want to go too crazy with that.
• 1:02:07
  I'm not going for these artisanal flavors.
• 1:02:09
  OK, OK. I want to.
• 1:02:10
  I'm not waiting. You know, I'm not Hammond.
• 1:02:12
  Only the richest people can come to this.
• 1:02:15
  You get this ice cream. You said when you're eating JD's
• 1:02:18
  ice cream, it's coupon day. Hello.
• 1:02:22
  I want everybody to be able to experience and have a good time,
• 1:02:24
  yeah. You give us a tease.
• 1:02:26
  What's the signature flavor that you're cooking up?
• 1:02:29
  I was just saying I've got perfected this custard base,
• 1:02:32
  vanilla custard base that takes 7 egg yolks in it and it's the
• 1:02:36
  caviar, yeah. So yeah, yeah, it's a so not
• 1:02:42
  Paul. You had some.
• 1:02:43
  You liked it. I did like it.
• 1:02:45
  Paulser only liked the trash flavors.
• 1:02:47
  He just like put cookies in there.
• 1:02:49
  OK, what's going to happen to your ice cream ingredients with
• 1:02:52
  the tariffs? I mean, that's what I may tell,
• 1:02:55
  you know, again, I didn't vote for him.
• 1:02:57
  So, you know, wow. You did.
• 1:03:01
  Paul did twice. Oh yeah.
• 1:03:04
  I think I'm about four or five times I voted for a man, I keep
• 1:03:07
  voting for him. The egg prices have been really
• 1:03:12
  affecting my ice cream intake, my homemade ice cream.
• 1:03:16
  So that's just how politics have affected me, guys, yeah.
• 1:03:20
  Wow, yeah, wow stuff. So vanilla custard base.
• 1:03:26
  It's delicious. Yeah.
• 1:03:28
  Basic ingredients You know the best of creams.
• 1:03:32
  What was the? Question.
• 1:03:33
  It was just that was the shit scene.
• 1:03:34
  That was another scene that struck me on this rewatch.
• 1:03:36
  Was like, he's sitting across from Laura Dern.
• 1:03:39
  He's eating the ice cream. He's clearly eating his feelings
• 1:03:42
  around the anxiety about your like, feeling kind of fade in,
• 1:03:45
  failing. You know, like the world is
• 1:03:48
  ending, I can't do anything but eat ice cream kind of thing, you
• 1:03:51
  know? And I was thinking about it, I
• 1:03:53
  was watching this and I was like, you don't have to eat the
• 1:03:56
  ice cream though. Like it's OK if let it out.
• 1:03:59
  It's it's OK. Well, yeah, it's like it would
• 1:04:01
  go to waste. Yeah, you could also enjoy it
• 1:04:03
  before it melts. He's like, he's like, look.
• 1:04:07
  His grandkids are dead either way.
• 1:04:09
  This could be the last day of my life.
• 1:04:12
  On the book it. Was he?
• 1:04:14
  Oh oh. Really.
• 1:04:15
  He dies in the book. You don't need to read the
• 1:04:16
  spoilers. You don't need to read it OK.
• 1:04:18
  Do you like that he dies in the book?
• 1:04:20
  Yes, because I feel like he gets what's coming to him.
• 1:04:23
  Yeah, because he is a villain. I prefer the movie ending for
• 1:04:27
  him. You prefer him being a complex,
• 1:04:30
  Yeah, character that he gets redeemed?
• 1:04:32
  Yeah. OK, yeah, yeah, sure.
• 1:04:36
  But that brand of ice cream, I never eat that brand anymore.
• 1:04:38
  That was always like a a school brand to me, exactly like very
• 1:04:42
  90s ginger. It was like plain tubs.
• 1:04:44
  No, like the the the brand, well, the flavor there's.
• 1:04:47
  No brand, isn't it. It was just.
• 1:04:49
  Associated as kind of like a generic with no cost, low
• 1:04:52
  quality tub. Bear no expense, baby.
• 1:04:54
  That's a good quality ice cream just in a container.
• 1:04:57
  It's a resort. They got a store in a different
• 1:04:59
  way. It's not little.
• 1:05:00
  It's not little pints of fucking Ben and Jerry's.
• 1:05:02
  So he's got 80 million pints of banana, no?
• 1:05:06
  Expense. Yeah, I'm just saying, I thought
• 1:05:09
  that everyone should have had their own personal English.
• 1:05:12
  Just putting your own judgments on these tubs of ice.
• 1:05:14
  Cream. Great quality ice cream in the
• 1:05:16
  tubs that normally shitty ice cream comes in.
• 1:05:20
  That's what I think. Ice cream plays OK.
• 1:05:22
  That's how you make it. You have to store it somehow.
• 1:05:24
  Yeah, OK. But it wasn't like ice cream
• 1:05:27
  store sized tubs. It was, it was elementary school
• 1:05:30
  field trip. It was like tub, Yeah, that's
• 1:05:32
  what I'm saying. It's like a gallon tank.
• 1:05:34
  It's. Different it's a specific type
• 1:05:37
  of tub. I'm on you.
• 1:05:38
  I'm what we're. We know the tubs.
• 1:05:41
  We got it as when you go into any artisanal ice cream place,
• 1:05:44
  they have tubs of ice creams in the display case.
• 1:05:46
  They're just you don't see it. We know.
• 1:05:49
  That's the basic tub, I'm just saying.
• 1:05:51
  That you're saying it's cheap ice?
• 1:05:53
  Cream. It looks like a good type of.
• 1:05:59
  It looks like they went to Costco.
• 1:06:01
  OK, that's all I'm saying. Or like even like.
• 1:06:05
  I don't even know where you get the tubs but it looks like
• 1:06:07
  restaurants. Industrial like fucking
• 1:06:10
  restaurant places, yeah. All right, all right.
• 1:06:13
  Sorry, it's not stainless steel tub.
• 1:06:16
  I don't need it to. Be it's like that wouldn't look
• 1:06:18
  like what the bear would look like if it was on the bear it'd
• 1:06:20
  be different yeah it's a famous cooking show on the bear takes
• 1:06:24
  place the bear I've. Heard about the bear?
• 1:06:27
  I've heard about the bear. Yeah, guys.
• 1:06:32
  Wow. Wow, you guys, some people, I
• 1:06:34
  think these these these things don't matter, but I think they
• 1:06:40
  do yeah, the details, the. Details.
• 1:06:43
  It's all in the details. For sure that's and Spielberg
• 1:06:46
  would have wanted us to be arguing about this today.
• 1:06:49
  He wouldn't have put it in on screen if he didn't think it
• 1:06:51
  mattered. Yep.
• 1:06:53
  This was his intention. Let's go back to your idea that
• 1:06:56
  he didn't actually have to eat the ice cream.
• 1:06:59
  I don't think he was trying to finish the ice cream.
• 1:07:02
  I don't think that he was like, no drop can go this way is a
• 1:07:05
  great thing. I think it was more like he is
• 1:07:07
  so helpless all he can. Yeah, you're looking for
• 1:07:09
  comfort. We're.
• 1:07:10
  Yeah. I'm sorry you only find comfort
• 1:07:12
  in ice cream it. Would make me sick to eat that
• 1:07:14
  much ice cream? He's not going to eat the whole.
• 1:07:16
  Thing I don't have nobody got help doing.
• 1:07:18
  The whole thing, sampling each one.
• 1:07:19
  I don't think that we're meant to believe that this elderly man
• 1:07:23
  is eating to the bottom of a gallon tub.
• 1:07:26
  Of that's what you think if you're opening it, you got to
• 1:07:28
  eat all of it. That's just.
• 1:07:29
  Like, not even going to be good if you take them all out,
• 1:07:31
  they're all going to get melty at the same rate you're going to
• 1:07:34
  get if you wanted to enjoy the ice cream.
• 1:07:37
  Well, yeah, but if you keep it in the fridge even if the fridge
• 1:07:39
  doesn't. Get powder not going.
• 1:07:42
  If it's not about it, I don't know.
• 1:07:44
  He doesn't have any advice to show us the futility of the
• 1:07:48
  situation. He's like.
• 1:07:50
  It's a metaphor. Imminent I just what am I to do
• 1:07:55
  except try to enjoy this thing that will inevitably melt and
• 1:08:01
  become bad, you know? I guess I see, such is life.
• 1:08:04
  I guess I see and life. Wow, Oh my fucking God.
• 1:08:09
  Free and Lord during grabs A whipped cream container, blast
• 1:08:12
  it in her mouth, walks away, tricks it on the wall and she's
• 1:08:15
  getting high. We gotta go.
• 1:08:16
  I love it. Blast these guy.
• 1:08:18
  Really. Should have done is whippets.
• 1:08:20
  That was a cutscene. Yeah.
• 1:08:21
  She did a couple whippets before she went on.
• 1:08:23
  Yeah, You know, electricity battle.
• 1:08:24
  On 90s party drugs, we just. We missed them all.
• 1:08:27
  Life finds a way. Hammond finds a pint.
• 1:08:30
  Come on. More like a gallon, am I right?
• 1:08:34
  Yeah. OK.
• 1:08:35
  Well, we didn't really cover what each like for each of you.
• 1:08:39
  Like, what is your history with Jurassic Park?
• 1:08:42
  Like what impression did this movie make on you as a kid?
• 1:08:46
  What role does it play in your life now other than content for
• 1:08:48
  a podcast? Everything's content, baby.
• 1:08:52
  All right? We got to mine every experience
• 1:08:54
  we've ever had in life. You.
• 1:08:55
  Recently read a book about the. Sequel I was I was trying to
• 1:08:59
  give you some tips to Gin. Now you just keep throwing it in
• 1:09:01
  my face. I'm not making fun of you, I'm
• 1:09:03
  saying you read. Thank you, I listen to it in
• 1:09:07
  audio. Yeah, that's reading.
• 1:09:08
  OK, thanks reading. I appreciate it.
• 1:09:12
  Yeah, I listen to this book called YouTube Secrets and what
• 1:09:16
  were we also were saying? What's your relationship?
• 1:09:19
  Yeah. What's your relationship to this
• 1:09:20
  movie? And we're so we're in.
• 1:09:22
  We were like four or five when it came out.
• 1:09:25
  I saw in a VHS tape, probably rented in a blockbuster.
• 1:09:29
  Got it from the sci-fi thriller section.
• 1:09:32
  Not from the horror section. No, I didn't go in the horror
• 1:09:34
  section too. Scary.
• 1:09:35
  It lived in the horror section in my mind.
• 1:09:38
  The blockbuster of your mind? Yeah.
• 1:09:40
  I loved. It, I loved it so much, loved
• 1:09:43
  it, loved dinosaurs, wanted to be a paleontologist when I was a
• 1:09:45
  kid, of course, and then completely forgot about it and
• 1:09:48
  like, saw some of most of the movies.
• 1:09:50
  Yeah. And it didn't matter to me at
• 1:09:52
  all as an adult. I really like JP three growing
• 1:09:54
  up I had the VHSI remember watching him being like this is
• 1:09:56
  good. I don't know why people are
• 1:09:58
  shooting on it. There's a much more capable
• 1:10:00
  child in there, you know, and good story.
• 1:10:04
  He likes to see capable children.
• 1:10:06
  Oh yeah, when you're. A child you identify, you're
• 1:10:08
  like, could I survive on this island like this kid?
• 1:10:11
  Do you think that you could have?
• 1:10:13
  Yes, OK, I would have found a water tank just like that kid
• 1:10:17
  did with JP. Three life finds.
• 1:10:19
  Yeah, way I. Remember all that ice?
• 1:10:22
  Cream JD. He is a black belt and karate.
• 1:10:24
  That is true and that would help with Raptors I think.
• 1:10:27
  What would your move be? Raptors coming at you?
• 1:10:29
  You're going down your stance. Raptors like.
• 1:10:32
  All right, I have thought about. This.
• 1:10:34
  I've heard that it was like a seal, isn't it?
• 1:10:36
  Isn't it a seal? I saw all the movies recently, I
• 1:10:40
  don't remember at all this. Sorry, my cane fell.
• 1:10:43
  I don't remember. Do I have the cane?
• 1:10:45
  No, yeah, not. Amit, Yeah.
• 1:10:48
  So what's your move? You're going.
• 1:10:50
  You're certainly a Raptors coming after me, OK, it's coming
• 1:10:53
  in close. It's coming in all right at me.
• 1:10:55
  All right. So what I'm going to do is I'm
• 1:10:58
  going to assume my. You.
• 1:11:01
  Got to dance. Yeah.
• 1:11:02
  So it's I'm going to come in close.
• 1:11:04
  I've got to wrap my arms around it because it's definitely, you
• 1:11:06
  know, it's coming after me. You're I'm going to do a.
• 1:11:08
  Judo throw to get your arms around.
• 1:11:10
  It well, it's, it's already in, you know, I'm inside, I'm
• 1:11:13
  inside. It's, it's, you know, it's reach
• 1:11:14
  here. Oh, OK.
• 1:11:16
  OK, get around the. Clock trying to you're not going
• 1:11:18
  to be able to get a full connection around it.
• 1:11:20
  I don't too big. Because I don't need to.
• 1:11:21
  Because what I need to do is get under its center of gravity at
• 1:11:24
  this point. OK, I'm going to use my hips,
• 1:11:26
  all right? I'm coming around.
• 1:11:27
  Should I get up to do a visual thing for this or yeah, I don't
• 1:11:30
  know if it's. Going to be caught in the frame
• 1:11:32
  but OK. Well, I mean, so you guys have
• 1:11:34
  to picture this. OK, I'm getting in for a judo
• 1:11:36
  throw called Osoto gadi. OK, I'm I get on, it's under of
• 1:11:41
  gravity, all right? I push up with my hips because
• 1:11:43
  you don't need a lot, you just need to get a little.
• 1:11:46
  I like to think at this point I do have a good wrestling grip on
• 1:11:50
  one of its arms, so I can throw off its center of gravity.
• 1:11:53
  OK, And that's all you need, all right, to get its leg up.
• 1:11:56
  And I sweep the leg, take around OK, all right, I got to make
• 1:12:00
  sure I clear these claw legs, OK?
• 1:12:02
  So I I got to throw hard, OK, putting my body weight into it,
• 1:12:06
  OK. And I, I know a lot of people be
• 1:12:08
  like, you go to the ground with it, OK?
• 1:12:10
  No, I'm letting go at a certain point, OK, But I'm keeping hold
• 1:12:13
  with my other arm. What are you holding onto at
• 1:12:15
  this point? I'm holding onto its arm.
• 1:12:17
  I got, I got an under the pig grip.
• 1:12:18
  I'm like right here. OK, OK, OK.
• 1:12:21
  I got a good grip or I try and get away.
• 1:12:23
  I'm I'm struggling for his life right now.
• 1:12:25
  Everybody just so to lift my Raptor frame here.
• 1:12:30
  Yeah, hopefully, you know, you get get it done before it Maybe
• 1:12:33
  you get a get a good, you know, Panther pod to the the throat to
• 1:12:38
  get it, you know, keep it from it's a move.
• 1:12:43
  It's a specific type of this is a Panther pod, right?
• 1:12:48
  OK, OK, anyway, I'm a I'm a martial arts expert.
• 1:12:51
  Just so you can, I have my black belt in American Kempo and so
• 1:12:55
  OK, so I got it on the ground. I didn't follow it down.
• 1:12:58
  OK, I got it off the ground. All right.
• 1:13:00
  And then I go in for an arm bar. Boom, God, break the arm.
• 1:13:05
  OK, but most people think you lay down with it.
• 1:13:07
  You know you fall that. That is the common way to go.
• 1:13:09
  About holding the arm still all right the the Raptors on the
• 1:13:12
  ground at. This point.
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  Still. And I just push my hips through,
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  break the arm, walk away. All right.
• 1:13:19
  Classic. So you're saying it with a
• 1:13:21
  broken a broken arm is really going to take it down?
• 1:13:24
  I mean, enough for me to get away.
• 1:13:25
  A lot of it's just trying to get away.
• 1:13:26
  You're not trying to engage with self-defense, OK?
• 1:13:28
  A lot of it's just doing what you need to do to get away.
• 1:13:30
  Yeah. All right.
• 1:13:32
  I don't want to mansplain self-defense to you part.
• 1:13:37
  Was a pretty good man. That was awesome when you
• 1:13:39
  freaked out on that Raptor. I'll show you how.
• 1:13:40
  I'll show you guys on Paul when we're done here.
• 1:13:43
  OK, guys, you. Have to get Patreon.
• 1:13:45
  That's for the Patreon. I know that's gated con joy.
• 1:13:47
  Great. Wow, you guys wow.
• 1:13:53
  So. So Needless to say, it made an
• 1:13:55
  impression. How would you do it?
• 1:13:59
  What defend against a Raptor? Oh no, I'd be dead.
• 1:14:02
  OK. Yeah, I'd take the Raptor's
• 1:14:04
  claw, and I'd say if a butterfly flapped its ear, do.
• 1:14:08
  You punch in space really gently.
• 1:14:10
  Oh yeah, you bought its air. Yeah, you start growling at it.
• 1:14:13
  Yeah, I learned recently that dinosaurs actually have lips,
• 1:14:16
  and I might want to do a little. Research might want to do an old
• 1:14:19
  racer, he said. He likes when they kiss.
• 1:14:22
  You know he likes the kiss thing.
• 1:14:24
  Just a little bit of kiss. You know, what is actually
• 1:14:26
  pretty funny is that Malcolm talks about his kids like,
• 1:14:30
  they're just like, I don't know, friends or pets who's like,
• 1:14:33
  yeah, I love kids. Got a couple, got some of my
• 1:14:35
  own. Yeah, he does.
• 1:14:37
  Yeah. See one of them in our next
• 1:14:38
  movie. He's just kind of like, the way
• 1:14:40
  that he talks about them is like, oh, I'm so fond of kids,
• 1:14:43
  you know, rather than like, I have.
• 1:14:46
  Like the? Reality, they are like reality
• 1:14:48
  of kids. He's like, yeah, yeah, they're
• 1:14:49
  so cool. How much do you think this
• 1:14:52
  Rockstar mathematician is in his kids lives?
• 1:14:56
  He's got multiple ex wives. Yeah.
• 1:14:59
  He's not sticking around. No, he's like chaos theory baby.
• 1:15:02
  I got to go. He said.
• 1:15:05
  I live with the chaos. Like what does chaos theory
• 1:15:08
  mean? He's like, I think you or I
• 1:15:10
  can't explain it. No one can.
• 1:15:11
  He's like, you know how you never see me?
• 1:15:13
  It's kind of like that. Yeah, I mean he stick around for
• 1:15:16
  a couple days, whatever, you're impregnated, I'm out.
• 1:15:19
  Yeah, chaos theory, Eric, Chaos theory.
• 1:15:23
  Because life does find a way. You guys, thank you so much for
• 1:15:26
  coming on the pod. Is there anything else that we
• 1:15:28
  didn't discuss that we really need to?
• 1:15:31
  Well, JD can tell you where to find Hold on to your butts.
• 1:15:33
  JD tell us where to find. Wherever.
• 1:15:35
  Get your pods. It's everywhere.
• 1:15:36
  YouTube. Apple Podcast.
• 1:15:38
  Spotify. I recommend the YouTube version,
• 1:15:41
  it's good. Yeah, I mean, I put a lot of a
• 1:15:44
  lot of work into those videos, OK.
• 1:15:45
  I do all the editing. I'm, you know, the one man
• 1:15:47
  producer over here. Paul shows up and does the pods
• 1:15:50
  and. Paul shows up.
• 1:15:52
  He does he. Does a great job.
• 1:15:54
  Yeah, thank you. No, believe it.
• 1:15:55
  And I believe, and I know that that is actually what happens,
• 1:15:58
  but it did sound a little bit shady when you said Paul shows
• 1:16:00
  up. Yeah, I get a little, I get a
• 1:16:02
  little. You know, it's hard the way you
• 1:16:04
  smash that like button, everybody.
• 1:16:07
  The way he took down that Raptor a minute ago, that's how he
• 1:16:09
  takes down all that raw audio. Oh my God, so true.
• 1:16:13
  She's like, yeah, yeah, get some error control submission.
• 1:16:16
  Well. I'll put I'll put the link links
• 1:16:19
  to all of this stuff in the show notes.
• 1:16:21
  Yeah, yeah. Appreciate it.
• 1:16:22
  Show description. Thanks for having us.
• 1:16:24
  Oh. My God you guys, this was such a
• 1:16:27
  blast and I can't wait to circle back in approximately a year
• 1:16:32
  after I've finished watching the rest of this franchise.
• 1:16:36
  Yeah, I can't wait to see how it's changed you.
• 1:16:38
  You're on deal. Deal.
• 1:16:40
  All right, see you later. Hold on to your butts.