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The MAGA Civil War: How Israel & Iran Are Being Used in a Deep-State Psyop · Man in America Podcast

• 0:15
  Speaker 1: Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. So tonight's show, I had set out to make it more of a weekly news recap. And just so you know, that's actually part of my plan is I'm gonna start doing a weekly show, probably Fridays, where it it's just a a look at the week, the the previous week, and just look at things just through my lens of what do I think is important to talk about. It may not be what's popular or what's trending, but, you know, I'm coming through the news constantly, and there's oftentimes, there's things happening that I thought, gosh, that is incredibly important, yet no one's talking about it.
• 0:53
  So that will be the opportunity, the time for me to just go over, you know, what am I following? Why do I think certain things are very important? And as I was preparing for tonight's show, and kinda looking, okay, what are the big stories? There's really this one big story right now, and that's Israel and Iran. And there's a lot of sub stories to it, including this, like, massive and insane civil war happening among MAGA.
• 1:22
  I mean, it's gotten kinda crazy, and I think there's a lot behind it, which I'll be I'll be getting into. But as I was looking at this potential stories for tonight's show, I think, you know, I was telling myself, okay. You know what, Seth? Let's just focus on Israel, Iran. Okay?
• 1:36
  So I'm gonna be, you know, basically, the whole show tonight. I'm gonna just be walking you through how I understand what's happening over there. I will be the first to admit that I find The Middle East extremely confusing. I mean, I think it's probably designed that way, but the complexity of what's happening in The Middle East is just it's hard to wrap your head around, and it is also extremely divisive. Now I'm not coming to this with some strong agenda as you'll probably see in the show tonight.
• 2:09
  I'm just coming to ask questions. It's like, okay. Israel is attacking Iran. Iran retaliates. There's a claim that Israel has nuclear weapons or the potential to build nuclear weapons and that they have been threatening and chanting death to America, and there's been potential assassination attempts on Trump.
• 2:30
  So there's a lot that kinda points to Iran as being the bad guys. Yet, there's also the the kind of large perspective that is, okay. Well, this is Israel's war, and, yes, they're threatening our our president and yelling at him. Does that mean that we're gonna go bomb them and, like, destroy their their entire society? And should we even be fighting Israel's wars?
• 2:53
  And why are you know, why is it that congress and the senate and so many politicians and Trump's entire cabinet, basically, why are they all either dual citizen with Israel, heavily funded by APEC, you know, very open about the fact that they're very, very, like, strong, like, almost Israel first instead of America first? These are questions that we should be asking ourselves just objectively. And so that's what I'm gonna do in tonight's show. Now maybe there's certain things I'm gonna say that you're gonna disagree with, and, hey. Great.
• 3:24
  Right? We we still have free speech here in America, and so I'm freely speaking about what I think, and I look forward to seeing the comments and seeing all the hate mail of the people telling me what they think. And, also, actually, there's a lot of really good positive comments. But either way, positive or negative, I I do enjoy them. But yeah.
• 3:42
  So that's my intention is just in tonight's show, just to walk you through where I'm at in understanding this entire situation. And and also, there's some part of this that's actually one of the most concerning aspects of that, which I'll be getting into, which is this whole MAGA divide. And, yeah, we'll we'll get into that because I think there's there's much more complicated things happening there. So first, I wanna start off with just the foundation of this entire war, what seems to be that Iran has weapons of mass destruction, basically. I mean, this is kind of Bush two point o.
• 4:16
  Actually, I'll play a little reminder video for you. Like, oh, yeah. Why do we get into all these Middle Eastern wars? This guy right here.
• 4:29
  Speaker 2: I
• 4:32
  Speaker 3: take the threat very seriously. I take the fact that he develops weapons of mass destruction very seriously. I remember the fact that he has invaded two countries before. I know for a fact that he's poisoned his own people. He doesn't believe in the worth of each individual.
• 4:59
  He doesn't
• 5:00
  Speaker 1: So okay. There you go. We've been through this whole storyline before of weapons of mass destruction, and we later realized that that was kind of a lie to justify getting into a Middle Eastern war and making Dick Cheney and Halliburton, you know, probably billions and billions of dollars and seizing oil rights and seizing probably some ancient artifacts that were over there that we wanna get our hands on. So, you know, United States doing regime changes is not uncommon. I think I'd saved map, which I I can may try to reference.
• 5:36
  Actually, let me try to pull this up for you quickly, actually. Because I United States has done an insane amount of regime changes. And actually, me pull this up. Let me search my bookmark right here. Okay.
• 5:52
  Here we go. So here is one map. This is US backed regime change operations. They're saying there's been a 101 campaigns from 1949 to 02/2014. Now, especially what we've looked at since the Doge revealed what was happening with USAID, you know, or even going back into reading the economic hitman, you know, John Perkins.
• 6:19
  If you've read that before, you know, highly recommend it. It's not some sort of conspiracy theory to say that The United States has done massive amounts of regime changes. Right? If you look what's happening in Ukraine right now, it's happening across South America, Africa, The Middle East, you know, all all tons of places. Okay?
• 6:41
  So it's very easy justification for these regime regime changes and say, oh, look. This leader is really, really bad. They're a great threat, and this is just the ones that are kind of more public about. I think, actually, a lot of times the regime changes, they're not public about it at all. They're very hidden.
• 7:00
  And all you'll notice is that, oh, wow. There's riots in this country, and there's these uproar arrests, and there's a revolution, and now they've replaced the the leader. And oftentimes, those, replacements of leaders are at the hands of the CIA and probably Mossad and MI six and other special intelligence agencies and whatnot. So it's not uncommon to look at that. And so we look at what's happening right now with Iran.
• 7:23
  That's one of the questions is like, okay. Is this some sort of justification for a regime change? Is that what's behind this? Because the idea of whether Iran has nuclear weapons, which really that seems to be the entire justification for this current war, is that Iran has capabilities to produce nuclear weapons. Well, let's look historically.
• 7:48
  Okay. So, you know, if you look at old Bush there, you know, forgive me for being a little jaded when when our leaders tell us that these bad people across the world have these really bad weapons, and we have to go take over their country. Okay? I'm a little jaded on that, but let's just go see. Okay?
• 8:05
  Here's a post that Owen Schroyer put out, who's been very vocal about what's happening. So this is just a short history of Netanyahu talking about Iran having nuclear weapons. Now this ball plays for you real quickly. It's forty seven seconds.
• 8:19
  Speaker 4: If not stopped, Iran could produce a nuclear weapon in a very
• 8:23
  Speaker 1: short It
• 8:24
  Speaker 4: could be a year. It could be within a few months. They have
• 8:28
  Speaker 1: Twenty eighteen.
• 8:29
  Speaker 5: Wherewithal, the stored up preserved knowledge to make a bomb very quickly if they wanted to do it. Iran
• 8:35
  Speaker 1: Twenty fifteen.
• 8:36
  Speaker 5: Dangerous. Weeks away from having the fissile material for an entire arsenal of nuclear bombs. They're very close
• 8:44
  Speaker 1: to Twenty twelve.
• 8:45
  Speaker 5: Away from being about 90% of having the rich uranium for an atom bomb. Iran is gearing up
• 8:50
  Speaker 1: 02/2006.
• 8:51
  Speaker 5: To produce 25 bombs, atomic bombs a year, 250 bombs in a decade. Ladies and gentlemen
• 8:57
  Speaker 1: '96.
• 8:58
  Speaker 5: Time is running out. Iran will be capable
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: '95.
• 9:01
  Speaker 5: Of producing alone without importing anything nuclear bombs within three to five years.
• 9:06
  Speaker 4: If not stopped So at every short time.
• 9:08
  Speaker 1: There we just have a a timeline literally going back thirty years of Netanyahu claiming that Iran either, I think, either had nuclear bombs or was was had a potential to produce it. It would be producing them within six months or so, again, you know, I you know, don't blame me for not believing these leaders when they say that we must go to war because they have nuclear capabilities. Now what's interesting is that a lot of people were were quoting, a recent report, I think it was put out a month or two ago by Tulsi Gabbard, in which they said that they did not find evidence of, this nuclear program that these leaders have been talking about. Now Trump was just speaking to media today, and he's saying that that's wrong. Okay?
• 9:55
  So let let's go and play this really quickly here. This is a a sixteen second clip.
• 9:59
  Speaker 2: What intelligence do you have that Iran is building a nuclear weapon? Your intelligence community had said they have no evidence that they are at this point.
• 10:06
  Speaker 6: Well, then my intelligence community is wrong. Who in the intelligence community said that?
• 10:11
  Speaker 2: Your director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard. She's wrong. So
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: and, again, I just I find this strange. Right? Just kind of strange that this reporter says, people in your intelligence community are saying that there's no evidence of this nuclear program in Iran. And I would have thought that Trump would have known exactly who had said that where it was coming from, but his first question is, who said that? And the guy says, oh, it's it's your your director of DNI, your head of DNI.
• 10:46
  He says, well, she's wrong. So, again, this just leaves me confused. Right? I mean, because I remember back when, you know, Trump got in, and he's picking his his his you know, he's putting everyone in place, and everyone was cheering on Tulsi Gabbard, and you you know, it felt like there was this, like, Avengers, this superhero assembly of Cash Patel and Dan Bongino and RFK and Tulsi Gabbard and all these people coming together. And that whole energy and movement just seems very shattered and and split up right now.
• 11:18
  And I just wanna take a quick step back and just share some overall thoughts on Trump is, you know, my thought with Trump is not necessarily that he's straight lying to us or he's, like, doing just this absolute terrible job, but it's just thinking, okay. Well, how much control does he really have? I think that there's a lot of people that believe that Trump could just get into office and just, you know, just make these massive sweeping changes. But, know, one thing that I've come to recently in my own understanding of trying to just see how all these pieces fit together is that the if you're looking at the pyramid of kinda what entities or groups or individuals are ruling this world, there's this belief that the US president has all this power. But, actually, I I honestly, if I had to if I had, like, an org chart of who runs the world, like, there's probably layers that we don't even know about.
• 12:14
  And and Trump, as much as we think he's, like, the one of those powerful figures in the world, which he does he does wield a lot of power, like, he could be five or 10 rungs down from the top of this structure. Like, what we're up against is is is not just the deep state of bureaucracy in Washington DC. Like, we're literally up against a thousands, you know, multi thousands of years old lineage of bloodline of evil families. I think that originally came from the Nephilim and got into, like, the fallen angels, and, you know, this is getting, like, Satan, and, you know, that's a whole different story. But I I think that what we're up against is some very, very evil maybe not even people, entities, demons, whatever they are, they have been ruling this world for a very, very, very long time and have a lot of power, unfortunately.
• 13:06
  And I I really do believe that that evil will fall, but at the hand of God. Like, I don't I don't think that Trump can somehow magically take down the entire deep state. I mean, deep state, what's that even mean? Maybe the the bureaucratic deep state in in DC, but the 13 families, the cabal, like this whatever's ruling the world, I mean, I don't think that Trump stands a chance up against that on his own. Like, I really think that he can help create the right kind of momentum and, you know, encourage, you know, returning back to faith and positivity and virtue for for mankind, and hopefully swing things in a positive direction where the you know, God can then look down upon this earth and say, okay.
• 13:45
  Now it's time to remove this evil because the humans have stood up against it, and there's been enough people that have shown that, that we are deserving of of our lives, and we're deserving to have blessings, upon this nation and upon this Earth. But I I just think that it's such a complicated system that, you know, it's easy for us to look at Trump in a very black and white manner even with this war. I mean, I I haven't been very vocal about either side saying it's just so complicated. And while I'm, like, extremely anti war, like, I don't think we should be going and fighting wars on behalf of Israel or on behalf of any foreign nation for that matter. However, there's probably a lot that I have no idea about, and there's probably a lot that, like, never even reaches the public sphere of discussion.
• 14:28
  Like, we have no idea what's happening behind the scenes. However, I do know that they have used the justification of the weapons of mass destruction to get us into wars before, that false flag attacks and events like, you know, Pearl Harbor or, you know, you know, nine eleven, that there's been tons of these different events that have been used as a means to, you know, get us into war. And I think that fundamentally, which I'll get into towards the end of the show, that all wars are bankers' wars. And so we we can't look at the situation without taking a step back and, okay, say, how does this war tie into the global financial system? Because that is where you can trace the origin of a lot of what happens on this earth.
• 15:04
  So continuing, what's been concerning to me, though, with this is I've as we've seen this situation unfold and the potential of going to war, and we have seen a lot of individuals coming out saying, hey. I am they're either pro war or against war. I'm seeing an interesting divide happen. And what I'm seeing is that there's a lot of these bigger personalities that are basically saying, I stand by Trump no matter what. Right?
• 15:41
  So if Trump says war, I'm I'm I'm not gonna question it. It's go to war. And so there's there's that aspect of it, which is like people are saying, look, I've never turned my back on Trump, and I I'm I'm truly Trump, which I'll talk about that in a second here. But then the other thing is that there's been a lot of people that have also saying, basically, that if you are quote, unquote, MAGA, and you don't instantly support Trump going to war, that you're a turncoat. You're you're a backstabber.
• 16:06
  You're not true. Like, you're, like, you're you're they're you're basically, that you're kind of, like, worthless. Right? And, actually, I'll share this one post. This is from Laura Loomer, who is very pro Israel.
• 16:19
  I think she I'm pretty sure she's yeah. She's Jewish, which is okay. That's fine. It doesn't bother me. But she's very pro Israel.
• 16:26
  But what's interesting, though, he look at this post she put out. So many grifters turning on president Trump. I hope he punishes all of them. So this is crossing into a different territory. Right?
• 16:39
  So looking at what what is what what Laura is saying here, basically, is that there's a lot of people that don't agree with a geopolitical decision that president Trump may make, right, by potentially attacking Iran. So anybody that voices their opinions what Laura is saying, basically, anybody who is voicing their opinion and not going along and not just blindly supporting Trump, that she hope hopes that Trump punishes all of them. So, I mean, she's basically calling for a dictatorship where and what you know, look at, like, what happens in China. If you if you are online complaining about what Xi Jinping is doing, you're gonna have agents showing up at your front door with a black bag over your head the next morning. That's just how it works.
• 17:27
  So it's just concerning to me, and and you see even Graham Allen Graham Allen down there agreed. Right? It's just this is a this is kind of a, like, a kind of a concerning trend that is emerging out of this that it's like if people, you know, don't support Trump or saying, hey. Look, Trump. I I didn't support I didn't, you know, I didn't vote for this.
• 17:46
  Like, I I wanted the the peace president. I wanted you to come in and and and not take us into war. Because if you look at how things are escalating, and now, China, in many ways, is saying that they're backing Iran. Russia is backing Iran. I mean, so if if, say, United States is openly dropping bombs on Iran, this might open up a real World War three.
• 18:08
  I mean, because right now, what what we're looking at is we're looking at this kind of Western alliance of The US and Israel and NATO, against what's looking like the the BRICS alliance. Right? China, Russia, a lot of the Middle Eastern countries. I mean, this is this is serious. This isn't some small matter.
• 18:26
  But, anyway, this is this rubs me the wrong way. I mean, now look. Laura's done a lot of great reporting, and and she's, you know, very intelligent. But what I'm seeing in her behavior right now, especially towards as because Israel is center to this, it makes me question a lot of things about, you know, what what is the real motive behind these, these kinds of tweets? Because I I would, you know, never say that I hope that Trump punishes you for having the wrong opinion.
• 18:53
  Like, now maybe, yes, if you're, like, threatening people and you're, you're doing really evil things that are causing harm. It's like, okay. Yeah. Like, there's there should be laws. But, anyway, I just there's something off with that.
• 19:05
  But I I I I'll read a post that I put out because I I had I've been thinking about this, and I've been watching this kinda develop. And so I put this post out. This this is me and my thoughts. So I'll put this out here. It says, we were never meant to follow any man blindly.
• 19:19
  When people declare, I'll stand by Trump no matter what, they're stepping into dangerous territory. It's not patriotism. It's idolatry. No politician, no matter how influential, is above accountability. Every man sins.
• 19:32
  Every leader makes mistakes, which includes Trump. Many of us voted for Trump because he promised to stop the endless wars. Saying, I won't die for Israel or no more foreign wars isn't betrayal. It's holding to him to his word. It's saying, supported you because you said America first.
• 19:49
  I won't support dragging us into another Middle Eastern bloodbath. But when someone says, I'll never turn my back on Trump, I have to ask, would you still stand by if he told you to take another mRNA shot, to put your mask on again, to give up your guns? Now he he probably wouldn't say those things, but that's not the point. The point is our loyalty belongs to truth, not to men. We're commanded not to worship idols, not celebrities, not politicians, not even heroes.
• 20:19
  So if we don't question those in power, we're not citizens. We're followers. And that is how tyranny takes root, not from the bad leaders, but when the good people stop asking questions. And that's my belief. I think that it's really, really important that whether it's Trump or any other leader that we have, we have to scrutinize what they're doing.
• 20:40
  When anybody just says blindly trust the plan or like, I'm seeing that too. I'm seeing a lot of people that are just saying, look, whatever Trump does, I trust it. That's dangerous territory. Like, like, it's just dangerous territory. We have to be eternally vigilant.
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• 22:03
  So what's also been interesting with this in this whole discussion is actually, I think that let me pull up one more. I had another tweet I wanna pull up here that I had saved. Let me find here something that Jordan Peterson had shared, which I think is important for us to get into talking about this report that came out. Let's see. I don't have it immediately to pull up.
• 22:31
  That's okay. Basic or so I I have it to reference. Oh, here we go. Great. This is it right here.
• 22:37
  Well, for one actually, okay. Let me take a step back. So there was this report that was done by this think tank or group that basically was talking about how this this there's this massive divide in in MAGA, but how this divide in MAGA was tied to all of these bots that were tied to Iran and Muslim groups. So, basically so you look at, like, what people like Lori Loomer are saying, like, in her public spats with Tucker Carlson, which I have a little clip from Tucker's interview with Ted Cruz. I'll be showing in a little bit here.
• 23:10
  But, basically, what what she's saying is that she because, Tucker is coming out, and he's questioning the motives of supporting Israel the way that we are. He's questioning, okay. Do we really have our do we really wanna go back into a war? Which I think are relatively rational questions to be asking. What she's saying is that Tucker is being funded by Muslims, and and and she had a report that she, kinda released that it seemed to be not that accurate, talking about how Tucker was being funded by, I think it's pronounced Cutter, like, Q yeah.
• 23:42
  Qatar, if you would call it Qatar. Think it's called Cutter. And and it seemed like that that and there's some community notes. It's like it wasn't actually that accurate. However, what's happening though is that we were seeing is that it's like the people that are pro, war, the people they're supporting and falling in line saying, look.
• 23:59
  We'll support Israel to the death. I absolutely support, you know, kind of bombing Iran or whatever it takes to for them to get rid of nuclear weapons. It's like those people are becoming part of, like, the approved group, but then people that are are not a not a kind of part of that group, they're being accused of being, pro Muslim, you know, kind of taking money from The Middle East. There's been a lot of accusations or, you know, being thrown around about people, you know, taking money from foreign countries. And I do have to I mean, I'm curious, like, what kind of, you know, journalists and influencers that Israel is paying.
• 24:30
  Because if we're talking about people that are being paid potentially by other foreign nations, like, we can't forget Israel. So, like, are they paying? Because it seems like there's a lot of influencers, very prominent, that, like, don't dare question anything about Israel. And it's it's it's a little bit strange. When you look at Daily Wire, you know, they won't really say anything negative about Israel, but then you also look and you see, oh, wait.
• 24:51
  Here's a picture of Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro having dinner with Benjamin Netanyahu. Or if you look at, Tim Pool on his show, where, you know, again, they they he's very careful about anything as it relates to Israel, whether you're talking about the the the ship that was the the false flag with the naval ship that was blown up or any other number of things. Yet, Tim Pool was also recently at some sort of closed meeting with I think I forget what it was, whether it was I'm not sure if it was with anyway, he was with the you know, with with Israel, basically. It was kind of like a closed media meeting where they're trying to help kinda guide what's being said about Israel. So there's a lot that makes me think that there's that basically, there's two sides playing this here.
• 25:30
  Right? I'm not gonna say that anybody that supports Israel is paid by Israel. There's lot of people that that support Israel for very just reasons, and and I agree with some of the reasons. Likewise, I'm not gonna say that anybody who is anti Israel is is paid by the communist or the Muslims. Right?
• 25:46
  It's like, well, maybe some of them are. I think there's a lot of people that are just trying to figure out what's what's kinda left, what's right, what's up and down. And granted, I do think that there are lots of people, especially a lot of podcasters, social media influencers that are being paid by nefarious agencies, whether they're countries or groups or whatever. But I wanna kinda I wanna kinda pull in this this report that came out because so Jordan Peterson had shared this, and kind of like, oh, this is a groundbreaking report. Here's the report.
• 26:16
  Was put up by the NCR, the Network Contagion Research Institute. Basically saying, it says false flags and fake may fake MAGA, how foreign and inauthentic networks use fake speech to destabilize the right from within. Now I'm not it's it's a pretty big report to me, a 22 page report. I'm not gonna go into all of the specific details, but what they're identifying here is that there is this bot army. They're saying is like a pro Russia, pro Iran, kind of pro Muslim bot army that is, really kind of working to create this division.
• 26:56
  So, again, the division that I've mentioned so far, especially with Laura Loomer being at the center of a lot of that because she's very vocal about what she thinks, and she's been attacking a lot of people unapologetically, which, you know, look. I I I commend people for going against the the the grain and for saying what they really think. But the you look at the divisions being created by that, it's basically, it's like it's like you're either with it's like you're either with Israel, and you support the kind of unconditional destruction of Iran on behalf of Israel and on behalf of protecting America from potential nukes in Iran, which, again, we talked about that. I'm suspicious about whether that's even true or So there's there's been this division that's kinda started here, but simultaneously, you have this other report that just so happens to come out at this exact time saying that a lot of these big voices that are opposing the war, that are opposing Israel are bots or are paid actors, or there's all kinds of suspicious behavior around them. And so my first question with this is like, okay.
• 27:57
  Well, this network contagion research institute, who's behind it? Right? Who's paying for this? Because ain't that you know, you've probably seen this too that a lot times, like, oh, this report comes out about, you know, racism in America. It's like, okay.
• 28:12
  Who funded the report? It's like, oh, it's a report funded by George Soros. Okay. Yeah. I know where to file that report.
• 28:18
  So looking at, okay, who the leadership team is. Right? So the top person on leadership team is Joel Finkelstein or Finkelstein. He is the chief science officer and cofounder. Okay.
• 28:30
  That's fine. So Finkelstein, probably a Jewish name. It's not a problem. Right? I mean, but maybe it's is it a coincidence or not?
• 28:37
  Well, it just so happens to be that this guy was also one of the prominent people at the ADL ADL. Right? The anti def definition definition Anti Defamation League, which is a extremely pro Israel, organization. So there's a so, again, look at the timing of this. You've got this huge divide happening.
• 28:58
  It's basically within MAGA. Now keep in mind, over the last, I'd probably say, six months, the whole kinda questioning of Israel and and people kinda questioning, do they support Israel, or who's behind Israel, or are the Jews involved? Like, this whole dialogue has really become very, very mainstream, and you're seeing a lot of people being very vocal about this. I mean, you're even having, like, AI translated speeches from Hitler going viral on TikTok and stuff. So, like, people are questioning narratives or questioning things that haven't been questioned for quite some time.
• 29:34
  You've got a lot more people publicly talking about World War two and and what they call revisionist history. And so people are asking some questions that I think are very, very fundamental. And I think that the people that don't want those questions to be asked are uncomfortable. And so part of if you look at what's happening right now and you look at a lot of the recent antisemitism laws that have been pushed for in America, it just seems like that there is some sort of initiative to make sure that this growing, I think, more populist movement that is saying, look. We're not just gonna go fight whatever war Israel says, or we're not just gonna stand by them like I'm I'm truly America first, and I don't care what other country you know, what their problems are.
• 30:15
  Those are their problems. It just seems like that there is some sort of, inorganic kind of movement to make sure that that populist movement of questioning Israel does not gain too much traction. And so if you look at what's currently happening now, even Laura Loomer calling for Trump to punish the people who are second guessing what he's doing in relationship to Israel and Iran. You look at those report coming out saying that, oh, all these people, these prominent influencers that are questioning Israel, they've got, you know, Iranian and Russian bots behind them. It's just kind of an odd scenario.
• 30:51
  Just it feels like there's some sort of social engineering operation happening right here. Now I'll go to, champagne Joshi over on Twitter, who actually does a great breakdown of the people that are actually behind this report. He says, I'd like to take you to take a wild guess about who funds the Network Contagion Research Institute, the organization who made this report, who made the report this article, and professor Peterson is referencing. Because again, Jordan Peterson was was referencing this. He says, you know your boy wasn't going to just take it at face value given the peculiar timing of its release and the very convenient findings.
• 31:26
  Again, he's seeing the same thing I'm seeing. You'll never guess. So this these are the different organizations that have ties to it. The Anti Defamation League, George Soros' Open Society Foundations, the Charles Koch Foundation, Hetz, an Israeli organization that has privately raised funds for NCRI, the Israel on campus coalition. It see it said in 02/2021, the ICC donated 335,000 to the NCRI for a grant to build social media analysis.
• 31:53
  Oh, that's not all. According to a 2021 PBS article, it says a dinner meeting in October 2019 at Princeton University would change the NCRI's orbit. There, Finkelstein, the founder of NCRI, found himself sitting across from general John r Allen, president of the Brookings Institute and a retired four star general and former commander of the NATO and US forces in Afghanistan. He told Alan what he was doing, and he was instantly intrigued, Finkelstein said. It would turn out that it was Alan who opened all the doors for me going forward.
• 32:26
  So now we have NATO and Pentagon involvement. Oh, but that's not all. Let's take a look at the strategic advisers. So this guy these are different advisers in CRI, the director of research at Google, a psychiatrist and retired US army brigadier general. Know, basically, the list goes on.
• 32:45
  Right? These are pretty serious people. So, again, if we look at this, the timing of all this happening, then you have this report that comes out that says, oh, this is why there's this huge divide in MAGA because we have all these these Russian and, Iranian and all these bots that are kinda amplifying. And, actually, the the the real Americans this also what they're saying is that there's a study that Mark Levin was kinda hammering on the the study. Supposedly, there's this polling that said, think it was upwards of, like, 80% of conservatives actually were pro bombing Iran.
• 33:19
  And that does also doesn't make sense. Right? And you know that they can use they can use polls and surveys and all these things to manipulate public opinion. So it just seems like most Americans actually, I'll show you. Let's see right here.
• 33:31
  Charlie Kirk, who is very, very, very pro Israel. Like, don't you dare ask, you know, question Israel at one of his kind of, you know, ask me anything type of questions. He gets pretty moved if you do. But he put a put a a poll out there saying, should the US government get involved in Israel's war against Iran? 90% of the people said no.
• 33:53
  Now keep in mind, this is almost half a million votes with, you know, almost 7,000,000 views. I would say that, you know, a lot of the followers of Charlie Kirk are probably gonna be more pro Israel than, say, followers of Jake Shields. Right? There's nothing inherently wrong with that and just saying that, like, you know, like, I like prepping. I'd say that a lot of my followers are probably more into prepping than someone who's watching a channel on sports.
• 34:19
  Right? It just the kind of basic extrapolation of information there. So my guess is that based upon this, it's like at least 90% of the American people are probably not interested in in going to a war with Iran. Yet, they're also quoting this poll, and Mark Levin's quoting a poll claiming that 80% of Americans do want that. So I I tend to trust this.
• 34:42
  I tend to trust the actual votes on Charlie Kirk's post there. But getting back into this, though, you know, as I mentioned that, you know, this guy, Joshi, he kind of opened the door and and and showed us this that, this report has a lot of suspicious characters funding it. People that you would typically say have a particular agenda. And so I think that that's what this kinda ties into. Now, I wanna then kinda take a step back now and go to a recent Greg Reese, video.
• 35:18
  So Greg Reese, who I from my kind of position in watching the work he does, he seems to be very objective, especially now that he's not even working for Alex Jones network. I mean, my take on him is he's actually pretty he's just looking for the truth. And when he does his little videos, he presents facts. He's not saying they're just giving a bunch of opinions on things. He's just kinda walking you through historical documents and everything.
• 35:41
  And so he put together a recent, video, one of his recent reports, which is highlighting just kind of like the history between Iran and Israel. So I'll play this for you. It's about five it's five minutes long. I'm gonna play this for you though, because this is really helpful for just for understanding this entire situation. Again, and this is the point of this show today is to try to walk you through the process that I'm going through in trying to make sense of what's happening over there.
• 36:08
  So I'll play this for you, and this should hopefully be, insightful for you.
• 36:18
  Speaker 7: An Arab Palestine is a threat to Great Britain and a menace to the world. A Jewish Palestine is an asset to Great Britain and a blessing to the world.
• 36:34
  Speaker 8: From its inception, Israel began the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians living on the land given to them by the British crown. The new Israelis used biological warfare by poisoning village wells, which was considered a war crime but ignored. In the early nineteen seventies, Israel supplied weapons and intelligence to aid South Africa's apartheid movement in return for weapons grade uranium. In 1982, thousands of Palestinians were executed in Israeli run refugee camps, and the UN General Assembly labeled it an act of genocide. In 1994, Israel supplied weapons to support the Rwanda genocide, which murdered about 800,000 people.
• 37:20
  In 02/2006, Israel was accused of war crimes after deploying cluster bombs in civilian areas. Israel supplied weapons and training to South Sudanese forces during their civil war where war crimes were rampant. Israel sold weapons to Myanmar's military during its two thousand seventeen Rohingya genocide. Meanwhile, British imperialism has been infiltrating Persia for over a century. In 1891, the Gujar dynasty sold Persia's entire tobacco industry to Britain for £15,000.
• 37:57
  In nineteen o two, they sold exclusive oil rights to Britain, who then formed the Anglo Persian Oil Company. In 1935, when Persia was renamed Iran, the name was changed to the Anglo Iranian Oil Company. Iranian leadership had all the appearances of being vassals to the British crown until 1951 when Iran elected Mohammed Mosaddegh as prime minister and voted to nationalize their oil. Time magazine called him the Iranian George Washington and man of the year, but the British view was that Iran had just stolen their biggest oil source. They organized an international boycott and began seizing tankers carrying Iranian oil.
• 38:44
  With the help of Alan Dulles and the CIA, British intelligence ran Operation Ajax. Mohammed Reza Shah was taken into protective custody by British intelligence and received cash from the CIA. After Mosaddegh was overthrown in 1953, Mohammed Reza Shah was returned to Iran and put back in power, where he began forming alliances with Israeli businesses and the US military. In 1954, the Anglo Iranian oil company became British Petroleum Company or BP, and Mohammed Reza Shah was seen as a puppet of the crown. But things changed.
• 39:24
  The Shah became critical of Israel after their 1967 war crimes. And by the nineteen seventies, the shah had initiated the formation of the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries, OPEC, and openly planned to terminate the 1954 consortium agreement, which provided Western oil companies 50% ownership of Iranian oil. The shah officially gave an ultimatum that the consortium agreement would be terminated in 1979. But by 1979, the Iranian revolution was led by the Ayatollah Khomeini, who was accused a year prior of being a British agent. And the 1954 consortium agreement was nullified by the Islamic Republic.
• 40:10
  This marked the end of Western control over Iran's oil and the beginning of Iran becoming public enemy number one in the West. After 09/11, Iran became the final target in the US military's long series of destabilizing governments. They are now in the crosshairs, and Reza Pallavi, the crown prince of the Pallavi dynasty, puppet to the British crown, and Zionist is being sold to the people as a new leader. Greg Reiss reporting.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: So, again, helpful report. Everything he's showing there, he he I like how he shows the actual articles where you can go read this information for yourself. But the bigger picture here, and this is what I want I wanna kinda get to in conclusion of this, is that all wars are bankers' wars. And I think that a lot of what's happening is that. I think that the if you look at if you take a step back and you look at the global banking system, and you look at how this this debt based system is really, really ending.
• 41:25
  Like, it's it's kinda nearing the end. And I've done so many shows on this, and you just kinda go back and you'll see a lot of them. But the financial system that our world is run on, especially with the dollar being the world reserve currency as a fiat currency, they have completely overprinted. This whole system is, like, on the on the verge of collapsing. And there's been a lot of people like, you know, Martin Arndestrog, for instance, who's who said this over and over again is they they need a war.
• 41:50
  Right? They need a war to reset the global financial system. And so that's why you see so many people calling for war. And so whereas a lot of people are saying, look. I think it's you know, blame Israel.
• 42:03
  It's it's Israel. It's APAC. They control that. They control The United States politician. Israel is just another puppet.
• 42:08
  Right? You have to remember, like, go back the origins of Israel, the Balfour Declaration. I mean, Israel goes straight back into the Rothschild's banking dynasty. I mean, if you look at what's happening, we can't just look at the individual countries, individual leaders, even Netanyahu. Netanyahu is just a puppet.
• 42:25
  Right? Like, he's just a puppet. Like, he's you know, to to think that really any world leader you see has this complete autonomy, well, sometimes it happens, but then those world leaders, they last a year or two before they get overthrown by a CIA coup, and they get hung out the dry. They get mutilated and and and murdered. Right?
• 42:41
  And they they bring somebody else in. And so I do think that a lot of this goes back to the British crown. It goes back to the banking families, and it goes it's well beyond just Israel. And, actually, I think in a lot of ways, even if you look at the two different kind of opposing forces of this this more Western alliance, you could say, you know, Israel, NATO, the crown, The United States up against these, you know, these BRICS countries in this kind of global, tug of war for control over the world. Like, in many ways, I think the same hands are controlling both sides of that.
• 43:11
  And and they're just and that's what it is. Like, at every level. Right? So you come down to the basic level in America, it's left black versus white. You go up a little bit higher.
• 43:20
  It's this state versus that state. It's this country versus that country. Right? And and even even higher level, it's just, you know, multiple global factions, global cabals that are really kind of fighting back and forth for control over the world. But I think if you keep tracing those things up, you find it's the same evil banking families and and and kind of bloodlines that are controlling all of this and making sure that our world always has perpetual war.
• 43:43
  They're using these wars to redraw property lines, to seize different natural resources, to make sure they've got control of the oil, etcetera. And that's really what this is. Like, in a much higher level, there's something much bigger going on here that is is bigger than Israel. It's bigger than America. There's a much larger tug of war happening right now.
• 44:01
  But one thing I did mention that I wanted to cover was just this interview with, Tucker Carlson and and Ted Cruz. And this again highlights something that I think is just is worth mentioning. So I'll play just a short clip. So this is Ted Cruz in this discussion with Tucker. Okay?
• 44:19
  I'll play it the first, like, thirty, forty seconds of it. Watch this.
• 44:23
  Speaker 9: I've never taken money from the Israel lobby. Have you?
• 44:27
  Speaker 10: Taken money from the Israel
• 44:28
  Speaker 9: From APAC.
• 44:29
  Speaker 10: So APAC raises a lot of money for me, but it's actually a misnomer because the people who raise money are individuals. So it's not the pack itself, but they're individual members who believe in the American Israeli friendship and Is it
• 44:42
  Speaker 9: a pact of foreign lobby?
• 44:43
  Speaker 10: No. It's an American lobby. It's the APAC stands for the America Israeli political action. What is
• 44:48
  Speaker 9: it lobby for?
• 44:49
  Speaker 10: So to be honest, not a whole lot effectively. Listen, I came into to Congress thirteen years ago Yes. With the stated intention of being the leading defender of Israel in the United States Senate. Great. I've worked
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: So so I'll play that again real quickly. I'm not sure if if you wanted to say this so publicly, but he said that I came into this position, political position, with the stated intention of becoming, what, the number one defender of Israel? Let me play this again. Guys, listen.
• 45:18
  Speaker 10: So to be honest, not a whole lot effectively. Listen. I came into to congress thirteen years ago with the stated intention of being the leading defender of Israel in the United States Senate.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Great.
• 45:31
  Speaker 10: I've worked every day to do that. APAC a lot of times
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: So, anyway, I where are our loyalties? Like, you would think that our elected politicians would say, I came into this role to be to do everything I could possibly do to improve the American empire, to make life better for Americans, to make our country safer and more successful. But when he comes in his state state, his intention, right, as he says it very clearly, was to defend Israel. To me, it it just it rubs me the wrong way. It just does.
• 46:13
  And so when you see people like that, like Ted Cruz, that are, or say, like, Mark Levin, you see these people that are so like, they're war hawks. Right? They're what you call the neocons. Right? That it's like, they want war.
• 46:28
  They want war. To me, it seems that there's something else pulling the strings here, whether it's ties into, say, Epstein and blackmail operations or any number of things. It just doesn't seem like these are people that are, like, just acting out of their own goodwill for America. Like, there are so many agendas happening here. But I I will I will kinda finish up with one short video from, Putin.
• 46:51
  And look, I'm not saying I'm I'm pro Putin. I'm just like, you know, he's he's a world leader. I listen to what the world leaders say. So let me just play this little quick video here. I mean, it's a minute fifty long.
• 47:02
  I'm play the whole thing, but I wanna just play this for you because it's helpful to understand what happens at the upper levels of politics. Things that we never see, we never know about. I think he reveals a little bit here. Now he's speaking I'm not sure if the, for the podcast listeners, I might read over what he's saying, because I I think that it's not translated in English, so you can listen to it. It's just the, captions in the video.
• 47:27
  So, I will give the audio, translation for this. I've already spoken to three US presidents. They come and go, but politics stay the same at all times. Do you know why? Because of the powerful bureaucracy.
• 47:46
  When a person is elected, they may have some ideas. Then people with briefcases arrived well dressed wearing dark suits just like mine except for the red tie since they wear black or dark blue ones. These people start explaining how things are instantly, everything changes. This is what happens with every administration. Changing things is not easy, and I say this without any irony.
• 48:12
  It's not that someone does not want to, but because it is a hard thing to do. Take Obama, a forward thinking man, a liberal Democrat. Did he not pledge to shut down Guantanamo before his election? But did he do it? No, he did not.
• 48:33
  And may I ask why not? Did he not want to do it? He wanted to, I'm sure he did, but it did not work out. He sincerely wanted to do it, but not succeed since it turned out to be very complicated. This is not the main issue, however, even though it is important, since it is hard to fathom that people have been walking there in chains for decades without trial or investigation.
• 48:54
  Can you imagine France or Russia acting this way? This world would have been a disaster, But it is possible in The United States and continues to this day. This refers to the question of democracy, by the way. I refer this example just to show you that it's not as simple as it may seem. That said, I'm cautiously optimistic.
• 49:14
  I think that we can and should be able to reach agreements on key issues. So I can stop there with that. But, basically, what and what he's saying is that it's like these elected officials, they walk in. They think that they can do certain things. But on day one, they get taken into a backroom.
• 49:30
  They get sat down, people with suits and dark ties, and they're told how things are going to be. And so did Trump have that same experience? Did he have all these campaign promises, to Kash Patel, Dan Bongino, Pam Bondi? Did a lot of these people have the greatest of intentions until they entered into this beastly system, and they're told how things are going to be? I don't know.
• 49:54
  Like, I would like to believe that these people all have the best of intentions for our country, and maybe they're working within their current current restraints. Like, look at RFK junior. I think that he hasn't had these secret meetings with big pharma where they explain things how how things really work. Like, the system that we're up against is not it's not easy. And so, like, when I look at people this, they they now, like, they're anti Trump now.
• 50:15
  So, look, he's he's he's completely turned his back on us and everything. Like, well, okay. Yeah. There are certain things I do feel like, okay. That's not what I was wanting.
• 50:22
  But I also I'm not gonna be so naive to think that he has his full power. Like, who's who's commanding what he is doing? Because he's up against, again, like, this multi thousand year old death cult that wants to exterminate mankind. Like, I have no idea what those closed meetings are looking like for him, but we still have to hold our leaders to, what what they promised us. And so that's why I'm I'm very vocal.
• 50:49
  Like, I'm, you know, I'm glad that Trump got in. I as opposed to Harris. Like, maybe you're the same. I'd assume so if you're watching this show, but I'm still gonna be second guessing what he's doing and saying, hey. Like, it's it's my responsibility, like, as a citizen in this country to keep my our leaders in check, and so I'm going to do that.
• 51:06
  But I think it's just really complicated, and that's that's kind of what I was showing you with this show today is I think that there's a lot of hidden hands that are controlling the charade or the the kabuki theater that we're seeing. And the arguments on Twitter, these reports that are coming out, like, all I can sense is that right now, there's some sort of very significant psychological operation going on, and it's hitting, like, all areas. It's hitting all segments of the population. It doesn't matter whether you're, like, alt alt right or center right or center left or far left. It's like there's there's an operation going on, like, with all of us, and that's just my sense with this.
• 51:43
  There's so much bigger that's happening here. And so, hopefully, this was helpful, like the the what I pulled together for you. In closing, I do have something kinda fun to show you. Yeah. This I think it's this might be an AI video that was generated, but, there's some funny stuff coming out.
• 51:58
  I think that we have to kind of end this on some laughs. So and I there's nothing I love more to laugh at than just good sarcasm. So I'm gonna show you this. This is a a video that was produced. I'll just play it for you.
• 52:10
  You're you're gonna enjoy this. It's obviously it is it is a tongue in cheek video. It's a parody video. It's not real.
• 52:20
  Speaker 9: Come back to Jake Geek TV news. The average American can't figure out why they feel like absolute trash.
• 52:24
  Speaker 11: We go live to a triple boosted science trustor who says
• 52:26
  Speaker 9: It's just her genetics.
• 52:28
  Speaker 11: It's just genetic? Yeah. Literally. I never eat red meat. I switch to seed oils only because, duh, health.
• 52:33
  And here I am. We're here with a man who's just glowing from head to toe. Sir, what's your secret to your health?
• 52:38
  Speaker 9: Statins and blood pressure meds. Hold up. I'm about to have a heart attack.
• 52:42
  Speaker 11: What's your secret? Just avoid the sun. I have skin cancer. That's why I do this.
• 52:47
  Speaker 9: Good thing they listen to their doctors. Not much more they can actually do.
• 52:50
  Speaker 11: True. Let's thank big pharma for being the main source of funding of all of our propaganda.
• 52:55
  Speaker 10: Sponsored by Pfizer, the largest criminal organization to ever do it.
• 53:01
  Speaker 9: We promise to take the red dye out of the skittles. Skittles. Oh, thank God. Red dye was the real emergency. Let's not talk about the other colors, the fluoride, the chemtrails, and the deadly mRNA altering our DNA.
• 53:11
  Back to you, Jenny.
• 53:12
  Speaker 11: Thanks, John. We're here at the Local seven Eleven and want you focusing on what's in the candy. And this way, you won't notice the rising autism and heart disease in children.
• 53:20
  Speaker 9: Well, autism in child heart disease isn't that big of a deal. It's not like the jab causes turbo cancer or anything. Jessica goes live to find out how to prevent it.
• 53:28
  Speaker 11: How are we going to prevent cancer?
• 53:31
  Speaker 8: Do you know how much commission I make off chemo treatment? Next question.
• 53:35
  Speaker 11: What's the best way to stay healthy in today's world?
• 53:38
  Speaker 9: The key to getting healthy
• 53:39
  Speaker 10: is lowering your cholesterol. Trust me. I'm a doctor.
• 53:42
  Speaker 8: Look. Just trust your fat doctor. He once watched a one hour lecture on nutrition.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: I think that some of it's kinda sad. I mean, but it's actually pretty funny, unfortunately. So anyway, as we're concluding today, I appreciate you sticking with me for the show. Thank you for watching. I'm gonna gonna be trying to do more of these, you know, one on one things and start doing some more, q and a's, and just kind of conversation with you.
• 54:09
  And my one of my goals is to actually have a call in portion. So we're not there yet, but I I wanna actually have a call in portion of the phone of the show where you can call in. I can talk to you. And like, you know, I get lonely just staring at a teleprompter. I'd love to talk to some real people like you.
• 54:22
  So, anyway, thank you for being here. If you've watched the show, if you enjoyed it, please share. Make sure you're subscribing to wherever you're watching. And I'll be back again, I think, tomorrow night with another show coming out. So, yeah, just thank you.
• 54:36
  Let me know in the comments what you think. Whether you like it, this show or not, like, whether you agree with me or disagree with me. Now, of course, there's, the trolls that come on there, they just call me names and stuff, and I smile because it's like, okay. I'm not I'm not really that bothered by you. Some random name calling me names on online.
• 54:52
  But I I love hearing your feedback. I love when you say, hey, Seth. You missed something here, or this point really helped me, because I I I read most of what you tell me, and I really appreciate that. So thank you for this, and I will see you next time. Do you keep hearing more cases of your friends and family getting a life threatening diagnosis of cancer, or perhaps it's even happened to you?
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