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The O-Zone Podcast | Campanile on Shaping Defense's Identity in Year Two · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Soon.
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome into this week's ozone podcast. I'm here
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  Speaker 2: with Kanani Stevens again and uh. Our guest later on
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  Speaker 2: to other people know is Jaguars defensive coordinator Anthony Campaneely.
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  Speaker 2: And I think we would both, you know, uh, skip
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  Speaker 2: us and get to camp.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you can forward very quick now, and we won't.
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  Speaker 3: Our feelings won't be hurt.
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  Speaker 4: We understand, not at all.
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  Speaker 2: And uh, but you know, for obligatory purposes, we have
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  Speaker 2: our six hot minutes, three cold takes. We're gonna call
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  Speaker 2: it at the top. Uh, And I think the first
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  Speaker 2: one I want to get to, I'm calling it calming
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  Speaker 2: of the waters because it feels like this time last
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  Speaker 2: week when we were talking the NFL draft, fans were
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  Speaker 2: blowing up with it. But what happens in the ozone
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  Speaker 2: mail bag when people right to me, it's usually the
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  Speaker 2: angry people right first, and then the people with perspective
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  Speaker 2: see the angry people, and then they write in and say, hey,
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  Speaker 2: it's not that you know, chill out.
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  Speaker 4: Let's just calm down.
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  Speaker 2: And I think people would really feel good about this
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  Speaker 2: draft and understand it. Some of the coverage we've had
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  Speaker 2: here on the website in Jaguars media, particularly the Huddle
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  Speaker 2: Up podcast last week with Bucky Brooks and I do
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  Speaker 2: a piece called Final Analysis on Monday after the draft,
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  Speaker 2: and Mark Duffner, who is.
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  Speaker 4: On our shows.
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  Speaker 2: They oughted a great job of explaining why the tight
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  Speaker 2: end approach was so important. I think people are starting
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  Speaker 2: to get it. I think people will see it on
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  Speaker 2: the field, but I really think this is a draft
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  Speaker 2: where once people see what the direction was, I think
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  Speaker 2: they'll be a greater understanding of it.
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  Speaker 3: Guy, it's just too soon to know about anything soon.
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  Speaker 3: Too soon we talk about, you know, grading a draft,
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  Speaker 3: can't do that immediately. We don't even know about last
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  Speaker 3: year's draft yet, right Think about Brenton Strange, how many
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  Speaker 3: people were mad about that and now he's like most
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  Speaker 3: people's favorite player that follows.
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  Speaker 4: This team closely.
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  Speaker 3: So it's going to take some time. These guys haven't
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  Speaker 3: even gotten in the building yet. They're coming this weekend.
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  Speaker 3: So for me, it's just let's let's wait this out
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  Speaker 3: a little bit before we have an immediate reaction.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting on Huddle Up last week. Sometimes with the draft again,
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  Speaker 2: you get so caught up in the reaction to it,
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  Speaker 2: and as you let it sit and marinate you realize
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  Speaker 2: there's different storylines about it. I was impressed with how
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  Speaker 2: much Bucky thinks this twelve and thirteen approach. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the personnel is really going to allow Britain Strange to shine.
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  Speaker 4: And he was good last.
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  Speaker 2: Year, but being able to get him some different matchups
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  Speaker 2: could be the part that's getting lost in the move.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, I'm not.
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  Speaker 2: Sure how he gets that much better because I thought
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  Speaker 2: he was one of the best three or four players
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  Speaker 2: on the team.
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  Speaker 4: But that's something to watch. What are you watching for
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  Speaker 4: rookie minni caamp athleticism.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to see anybody thrown up, which would
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  Speaker 3: be me if I was running in the Jacksonville heat.
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  Speaker 3: So kind of just being able to keep up. I
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  Speaker 3: think we discussed a little bit. We're not, you know,
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  Speaker 3: football coaches, position coaches. I'm not getting a little look
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  Speaker 3: at that stuff because I think they kind of go
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  Speaker 3: a little lighter in Regy minicamp. But you can tell
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  Speaker 3: when something's really off, is what I would say stands out.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes it's hard to tell who's great who's good, but
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  Speaker 3: when something doesn't look right, you can see it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Rocky muniicamp by the way Friday, Saturday and
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  Speaker 2: Sunday of this week at the middle of Electric Center.
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  Speaker 2: Not open to fans, but media will be there and
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  Speaker 2: we'll be trying to give you the best perspective on
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  Speaker 2: that as we can.
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  Speaker 4: Rickymuni. Camp's funny, it's.
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  Speaker 2: You want to see athleticism and you don't want to
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  Speaker 2: be shaking your head. You can come back from a
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  Speaker 2: bad start at Rookie Mini Camp, but a lot of
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  Speaker 2: times if they if they don't. Usually the draft picks
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  Speaker 2: look fine, but there's usually a couple of u DFAs
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  Speaker 2: that you realize why they were udfas. And you do
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  Speaker 2: hear times where even the rookies, even the kids involved,
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  Speaker 2: they sort of realize that, oh, this is a different thing,
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  Speaker 2: and if it's if it's a different thing here at
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  Speaker 2: Rookie Mini Camp, Josh hens Allen and Trayvon aren't here yet,
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  Speaker 2: so you want to make sure you at least come
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  Speaker 2: close to fitting athletically. Uh So, we'll see on that
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  Speaker 2: this weekend. The other sort of subtle news that we'll
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  Speaker 2: get to before we get to camp. The numbers change
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  Speaker 2: last week. I don't know if you're a numbers person,
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  Speaker 2: change their numbers.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yes, So First of all, I'm very upset about this,
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  Speaker 3: by the way, because I am so bad at remembering
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  Speaker 3: and now they're changing.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I'm going to be terrible. I am not.
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  Speaker 2: You know, people read the Ozone know that I'm not
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  Speaker 2: obsessed with numbers. We're doing a thing right now in
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  Speaker 2: the Ozone where we're going over the each the best
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  Speaker 2: player to wear a certain number in Jaguar's history, which
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  Speaker 2: is interesting, but I'm not. There's some people who really
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  Speaker 2: get into numbers. I'm not one of those people. But
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting. Monteric Brown changing to number one.
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  Speaker 4: I like that. I'm fine with that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Jarian changing to number four, so I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if he's a good number.
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  Speaker 3: I just he's very much twenty two in my heads though.
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  Speaker 4: If he's putting two and two together and getting.
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  Speaker 3: Four addition, yes, mathematic thing.
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  Speaker 4: You're impressed with how quickly I knew that because math
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  Speaker 4: is not my thing. I know I can do.
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  Speaker 2: I can do two plus two now. Mcquin allen number
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  Speaker 2: five kind of cool, I think. I guess the one
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  Speaker 2: that I think could be coolest is Antonio wearing six.
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  Speaker 3: I think he was wearing single numbers or I like that,
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  Speaker 3: so I can. You can get on board with that.
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  Speaker 2: And it is funny, how popular and not surprising. But
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  Speaker 2: anytime those single digits open up, oh yeah, there's a
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  Speaker 2: flood into it.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't know if that's uh.
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  Speaker 3: They got to be like slim enough to have a
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  Speaker 3: single number because we talked about this with Jeff. You
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  Speaker 3: don't want to be a big boy with a small
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  Speaker 3: mom because that doesn't look good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't want to see Hainesy wearing zero, right?
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  Speaker 4: Is that's it? Okay? Zero curse? That could be so
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  Speaker 4: final thing. I had cataract surgery Friday, Kai so and.
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  Speaker 3: You're still with us.
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  Speaker 4: Look at this batting see very clearly.
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  Speaker 2: For any people listening who are about to undergo cataract surgery,
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  Speaker 2: I would tell you it is not a big deal.
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  Speaker 2: Don't stress about it. I'm the ultimate stress guy. Before anything.
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  Speaker 2: I lost sleep, I worried.
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  Speaker 4: H They put me under and when I woke up,
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  Speaker 4: it was done. But you're feeling good when you woke up.
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  Speaker 4: Modern medicine is impressive.
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  Speaker 1: I was.
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  Speaker 4: My wife was driving me home.
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  Speaker 2: For about fifteen minutes and she says I thanked her
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  Speaker 2: like twenty five times for taking me.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what we appreciate about you, John.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you. So she was finally like.
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  Speaker 3: All right, let's put you to bed.
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  Speaker 2: I got home and said, hey, you want to watch
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  Speaker 2: a movie, And she's like, just.
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  Speaker 4: Just go up stairs and get to bed. So I
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  Speaker 4: did so.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, all well and good, and without further ado, we'll
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  Speaker 2: now be joined by Jaguars defensive coordinator Anthony Campanialy.
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  Speaker 4: I appreciate you doing.
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  Speaker 1: This, first of all, appreciate having me.
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  Speaker 4: It's been about a.
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  Speaker 2: Year since we did this and a lot has gone
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  Speaker 2: on during that year. What is it like being back
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  Speaker 2: for a second year after last year had to have
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  Speaker 2: been such a compressed, urgent feeling.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that that's been nice, and I think the best
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  Speaker 5: part of that is the continuity, the amount of guys
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  Speaker 5: that are back, and you kind of feel like you're
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  Speaker 5: working with the same unit. A couple guys aren't back
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  Speaker 5: with us, but the majority of the defenses back. So
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  Speaker 5: just getting being able to hit the ground running, you know,
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  Speaker 5: and having a foundation underneath so many of these guys.
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  Speaker 5: It's been really really fun because you're kind of getting
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  Speaker 5: into much more of the specifics at this point.
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  Speaker 1: You know, at this point in the even in phase one.
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  Speaker 2: How does that wait during January, right January February, when
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  Speaker 2: you're starting to put things back together. How much of
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  Speaker 2: an advantage is it to have the time to have
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  Speaker 2: the fact that you've got seventeen games.
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  Speaker 4: And all this time on task of players.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you're able to do a deep dive,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I mean? You do that usually during
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  Speaker 5: your bye week in the season. You're always kind of
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  Speaker 5: quality controlling everything.
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  Speaker 4: Looking at that that's not that deep.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's you know, you really have to die. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: you have the time to more of a shallow die,
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  Speaker 5: no question. But you have the time to go through everything,
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  Speaker 5: kind of go through all the specifics what you did well,
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  Speaker 5: what you didn't do well, you know, And really the
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  Speaker 5: points of emphasis going into phase one are really from
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  Speaker 5: your offseason studies, you know. And then you get the
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  Speaker 5: opportunity to look at other teams in the league, and
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  Speaker 5: then you kind of compare and contrast where you were
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  Speaker 5: in some of those categories, where they were, who's.
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  Speaker 1: Doing certain things that fit.
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  Speaker 5: So it gives you the chance to kind of be
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  Speaker 5: malleable and add to the system.
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  Speaker 2: How do you do that in terms of there's such
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  Speaker 2: an emphasis now on keeping up with trends. Yeah, do
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  Speaker 2: you catalog those during the season and say, hey, I
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  Speaker 2: saw these guys doing this.
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  Speaker 4: I want to take more a look at that.
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  Speaker 2: Is it broad where you try to hit every team
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  Speaker 2: and figure it out or I.
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  Speaker 1: Think everybody's got a different way of doing it.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, our coaches did a great job. We
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  Speaker 5: kind of from my position and my vantage point, I
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  Speaker 5: gave out certain studies, you know, situations and different field
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  Speaker 5: zones and things like that, personnel groupings. Our coaches did
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  Speaker 5: a deep dive on that. Our analytics department.
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  Speaker 1: Here is incredible. So they do an incredible job with that.
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  Speaker 4: Just to sort of gauge, heyre doing this here, let's
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  Speaker 4: look at.
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely, you know, here's how we look in this scenario,
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  Speaker 5: maybe in this situation, and here's some of the teams
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  Speaker 5: that are doing some things and that that may fit
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  Speaker 5: what we do some things a little bit better. And
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  Speaker 5: you look at that and you really are able to
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  Speaker 5: kind of pull it all apart, rip it down to
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  Speaker 5: the studs, and say, all right, well, where can we
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  Speaker 5: improve this? You know, And I think most of the
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  Speaker 5: time it never leads to wholesale change, but it definitely
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  Speaker 5: puts you out a pass some great ideas.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it makes you feel like you're in the right part.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, ballpark too. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Without giving too much away, maybe one or two takeaways
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  Speaker 2: from the dive that you can share that might make
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  Speaker 2: sense to football one on one guy.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you always go back and you look
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  Speaker 5: at you know, one of the things that over the years,
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  Speaker 5: just at every level of football I've been in, one
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  Speaker 5: of the things I learned was if you're doing something well,
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  Speaker 5: don't ever concede that you know that's going to happen again.
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  Speaker 1: You got to really look at what got you there.
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  Speaker 1: You know, why did you do that well?
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  Speaker 5: And you really need to continue down that path in
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  Speaker 5: phase one, phase two, phase three in the spring, so
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  Speaker 5: we looked at some of those things that we were
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  Speaker 5: doing well, you know, why were we doing them well? Usually,
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  Speaker 5: and it's certainly the case here. The drill work and
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  Speaker 5: some of the stuff that the coach is implemented an
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  Speaker 5: individual that made a.
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  Speaker 1: Huge different difference for us, because there are.
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  Speaker 5: Fundamental things about football that will never go away, you know,
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  Speaker 5: just physiologically or how the human body moves, and really
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  Speaker 5: dialing it down in all those little categories and mediosyncrasies
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  Speaker 5: for the players.
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  Speaker 1: I thought our coaches did a very good job of that.
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  Speaker 5: But there are some things that you look at schematically
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  Speaker 5: and fundamentally they're like, hey, we got to get better there.
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  Speaker 5: And you know, some of those things in terms of
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  Speaker 5: being tighter on some stuff and within some of the
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  Speaker 5: calls and how you get to that point and how
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  Speaker 5: you do that I progression. That was stuff that I
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  Speaker 5: feel like those are some of the things we took away.
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  Speaker 2: How much it's kind of self evident on offense that
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  Speaker 2: if Trevor's in a system for a second year, that's
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  Speaker 2: going to raise comfort. Yeah, with defensive players, I'm assuming
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  Speaker 2: the same phenomenon happens. But how do you see, like
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  Speaker 2: where does that comfort level help for defensive gap?
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  Speaker 1: I say this to our guys all the time.
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  Speaker 5: You know, our muscles are dumb, you know, and they
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  Speaker 5: take a lot of repetition, and you know, having continuity
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  Speaker 5: is a great thing. It gives you the opportunity to
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  Speaker 5: create more muscle memory, you know, and this game is
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  Speaker 5: very much like that.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 5: We want guys with you know, a black belt skill
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  Speaker 5: set and a white belt mindset, always looking to learn,
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  Speaker 5: always looking.
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  Speaker 1: To get better.
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  Speaker 5: We say that a lot in the room, and I
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  Speaker 5: feel like we have a lot of guys like that.
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  Speaker 5: They're really looking at a lot of their individual and
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  Speaker 5: their technique and now they're able to see themselves doing it,
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  Speaker 5: you know, going back looking at the seas and see, hey,
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  Speaker 5: look that's where that helped me. This is where I
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  Speaker 5: can be better. We're doing that stuff in the droll
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  Speaker 5: work and I really got to dial it down there.
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  Speaker 5: But I think to answer your question, confidence comes from
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  Speaker 5: having success, and when you do have success in certain areas,
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  Speaker 5: guys are excited, they're kind of chomping at the bit
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  Speaker 5: to get back to work.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody wants to know about pass rush, So I'll ask
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  Speaker 2: you about pass rush. Is that the area that you
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  Speaker 2: feel like you need to get more out of?
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  Speaker 4: Is that a theme? Is that one of the themes.
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  Speaker 5: Or yeah, I think that's that's always a theme in
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  Speaker 5: this league because you know, it's a passing league and
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  Speaker 5: you got to get to the quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: You know, pressure and affecting the quarterback. That's great.
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  Speaker 5: You know, we want to finish some of those and
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  Speaker 5: I think that that's really a double sided coin, right,
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  Speaker 5: Like some of that is getting tighter on the coverage
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  Speaker 5: where if the ball's coming out in too too, it's
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  Speaker 5: gonna be hard to get to the quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: Now, some of that stuff is we may be up.
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  Speaker 5: There and sending the house at people at times, you know,
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  Speaker 5: so all better come out quick. But yeah, I think
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  Speaker 5: that's something where our coaches did a great job in
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  Speaker 5: the off season with some of the off season studies,
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  Speaker 5: you know, and bouncing around and doing some different things.
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  Speaker 5: And we watched a ton of stuff with our players
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  Speaker 5: and then around the league, and I thought it was
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  Speaker 5: super helpful for our guys.
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  Speaker 2: What did interviewing if the two or three teams were
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  Speaker 2: head coaching jobs, what did you learn?
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  Speaker 4: I can labor that today.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean, I think one thing you learned
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  Speaker 5: there's a lot of a lot of great people in
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  Speaker 5: this league.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you meet some great people in that process.
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  Speaker 1: Everywhere is different.
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  Speaker 5: Everybody's got different questions, you know what I mean, and
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  Speaker 5: every organization has different things that they are looking for.
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  Speaker 1: So there was a great.
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  Speaker 4: Experience that way be fascinating seeing it is. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 4: see a few teams Green Bay, Miami here, but see more.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, you just kind of get, you know, look
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  Speaker 5: at the inner workings and the people you know who
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  Speaker 5: do those jobs. And obviously there's a lot of elite people, uh,
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  Speaker 5: you know, at the at the highest level in this game.
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  Speaker 5: So it was cool, you know, to get an opportunity
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  Speaker 5: to speak about some of those things. And what you
• 14:54
  Speaker 5: get the opportunity to do is really convey your philosophy,
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  Speaker 5: you know, and you get time to really sit and
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  Speaker 5: think about that and deep thought and what you want
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  Speaker 5: to be and what you want to do. And I
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  Speaker 5: think defensively here are players have done an unbelievable job
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  Speaker 5: of creating their own environment, a great philosophy that we
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  Speaker 5: believe in here as a unit, and I think they're
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  Speaker 5: they're always trying to do that every day, which is awesome.
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  Speaker 5: You know, they have a really good culture amongst themselves.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure if we got into this deep last
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  Speaker 2: year when we spoke in this forum, but you're a
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  Speaker 2: kid coaching at fair Lawn, right coach there five six
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  Speaker 2: seven years?
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  Speaker 5: Right, I coached their coach there went two years, and
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  Speaker 5: then I coached that Don Bosco Prep in New Jersey
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  Speaker 5: for six years.
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  Speaker 1: I want to say, at high schoo level for eight years.
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  Speaker 1: I think was.
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  Speaker 2: You're sitting talking to NFL owners about a head coaching
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  Speaker 2: job in January. That's a long way from six years
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  Speaker 2: of high school, you know, sure was that a goal
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  Speaker 2: or was it just Hey, I'm going to work each
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  Speaker 2: job and whatever it takes me.
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  Speaker 5: I think I think it's more like I was super
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: fortunate along the way to be around a lot of
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: great people.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: I don't think any of that.
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: I don't think I would have been in that environment
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: had I not worked for some of the people I
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: worked for.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: And one of the.
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: Guys that I work for, Greg Tole, who's a legendary
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: coach in New Jersey. You know, he's he's had he
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: had or has had as being an effect on me
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: as anybody you know outside my father and he just
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: I really feel like the time I spent coaching for him,
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: our players here are probably the recipient of a lot
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: of the coaching points and the things I learned from him, which.
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: Goes to show you it's it's a lot of the
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: stuff's the same.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's people. Yeah.
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: I think I think high school football, college football, and
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: pro football they're a lot more similar than they are different.
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: Like you said, it's a it's a people game. Who
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: win with people, and at the end of the day,
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: it's gonna come down to who plays hard or who's
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: more discipline, who does their job, and really, at the
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: end of the day, who loves each other enough to
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: do that? And if you can force that environment and
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: you're lucky enough that players who believe in that at
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: every level, you can win.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: We spoke right when you got the job, and.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: I was doing the obligatory asking about scheme, right, and
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: you were sort of like, look, I get we got
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: to talk about scheme, but coaching is about.
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: Do these guys know that I love them? And probably
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: not surprised that that exchange took place. That's kind of
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: what you're about, right.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, My father was like that. You know.
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: I obviously grew up around him and grew up around
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: him coaching his teams, and that was probably the number
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: one thing I took from him. He was always able
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: to coach his guys hard and be honest with him
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: because the guys knew he cared about right. And I
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: think this is a really hard business to be in
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: if you don't love helping people, you know, And I
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: think you're always judged on you judged on your actions,
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: not your intentions. Not what you say. I think people
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: see that in all of us as coaches every day.
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: You know, we're going to be judged by what we
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: do every day, not necessarily what we say.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: And I think it's reciprocal.
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: The players feel that way about the players, the coaches
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: feel that way about the coaches. You know, the players
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: feel that way about the coaches, and coaches feel out
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: way about the players.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: What's the challenge of doing that? And as I was
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: sort of thinking about what we talk about today, you're
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: about relationships and you got to build those. And yet
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: in the NFL right now, it is such a year
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: to year thing, right Like you had to come in
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: last January and in a very short period of time
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: convinced thirty forty guys on defense that you had their back,
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: show them who you were, build that world if you will. Sure,
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: how difficult is that? And what's the art to do
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: in that as quickly as you do? I guess just
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: being yourself Like.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the most work things you have the
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: right people in the room.
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: You gotta have players who are selfless people, they enjoy
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: being around each other. We were talking the other day,
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: me and one of the coaches were talking I'm like, man,
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: it's an amazing room to go in because, you know,
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: old people, we all have energy, and you walk in there,
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: you walk in that room and the energy is so good.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: It's so positive. Meaning that like people just like to
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: see each other, you know what I mean.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: They're like, it's a it's just such a great feeling
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: that the guys are back in there. We're all kind
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: of hanging around together talking football again. You miss each other,
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean. You spend so much time
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: around each other, and you value the effort and the
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: sacrifice that everybody makes for each other. So I think
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: the number one thing that that is I was super
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: fortunate and lucky that I came into a situation where
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: those a lot of great people in the room, Like
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: it has much more to do with that, in my
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: opinion than anything else, you know, really honestly, God Like,
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: they're great guys, So they got super lucky.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: What did this, Uh, I'm drawing a blank on exactly
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: what was on them, but the shirts they made last year, it.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Was like some ugly Italian guy from it.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: But when that sort of thing happens, Uh, it's part
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: of it. It's part of the story of the season,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: but it's got to be a cool moment and like
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: it shows something right.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: That, Yeah, there are they're they're great guys.
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: I just appreciated they didn't put some of my phrases
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: on there, which I was in trouble, but uh no,
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: they're there. Yeah, that was awesome, and they're just they
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: got a great culture, you know, just amongst themselves, the
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: dbs and and the linebackers, the d line, uh, those
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: those pods in general, and when they come together, they
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: gotta they gotta want some spirit culture about them.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: Can you name?
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: I'm sure you can, but uh, the the current Campanelli
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: coaching tree and where they are.
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: Now, gosh, all my brothers, you mean, well, there's a
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: lot of guys in that tree.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: It's crazy as tight as you can get it. But
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: there's Yeah for coaching. Is your dad still coaching?
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: My dad is still coaching. He was coaching the freshman
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: at Burton Cathock. He is right now currently he's yeah,
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: he's eighty years old. He's currently coaching, uh seven on
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: seven spring team with my my nephew's on it. And
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: he's gonna be coaching again in the fall. And then
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: my brother knows he is the offense coordinator Yukon. My
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: brother Bevidos the head coach at Burton Cathoic. My brother
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: Nick is the head coach at The Paul, and then
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: my sister's the head volleyball coach at Mount Saint Dominic. Yeah,
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: I mean everybody's everybody's coaching, and then I mean throughout
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: New Jersey there's so many guys that I played for
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: my dad or or you know, coach with him, coached
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: under him.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: There's just a lot of guys and now you see
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: it like kind of going in. The guys are going
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: on going to college and.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: What you know, there's so much to go into that
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: because it's such a cool story and people can read.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: There's several stories in the New York.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Times about the family, what kind of pride and I
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: guess how much of a foundation for you. I mean,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: I'm sure it's everything, but uh, that's who you are, right.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: I just felt like like when I grew up, the
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: coolest thing was like my dad's you know, professional life
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: was also like our family life and his social life.
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: So like the guys who hung out with were the
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: guys on the staff. Of those guys we grew up around, right,
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: you know, my uncles were kind of in the coaching you.
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: Know, just what it was.
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, right, I mean my dad met my mother from
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: coaching her brother. So it was like, you know, everybody
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: was everybody was.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Just around sports and around football all the time.
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: And uh, the community I grew up and it was
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: cool because it was most of the football team was
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: the wrestling team, and you were just kind.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Of around each other all year round. That's what everybody did.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: And uh just had a tremendous impact on my life
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: and uh, really everything it had had it's the most
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: important thing, you know, Yeah, just everything you know culturally, professionally, Yeah, everything,
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: I mean, everything I do and believe in professionally comes
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: from that. And you played for your dad, yeah, absolutely,
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: Uh Yeah, he was super tough. You know, he was
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: hard on us about wrestling, which he didn't coach, but
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: he was you know, probably more hard on us about that,
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: but but football, he was super hard on us. And
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: that was a good thing because I think that that's important.
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: You know, you got to be honest, and I learned
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: a lot and I definitely you know, have a lot
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: of friends who we talk about it all the time.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: You know, had such an impact on them.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming they were probably kids who grew up dreaming
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: of playing for your dad.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: You grew up knowing there was no choice.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was no choice, no doubt, no doubt.
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: But uh, you know it was funny though, Like when
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: I grew up, it was just those guys were always
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: over the house. You know, a lot of my brother's
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: friends or you know, uh, some guys you're just staying
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: with us, all kinds of stuff, and and you just
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: grew up and you met so many different people, you know,
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: from different places, and that was probably that probably the
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: biggest effect on you know, how much he genuinely cared
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: about all those guys. He's still to this day to
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: see how many of those guys are still involved in
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: his life, you know, now that he's older and there.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: It's incredible, it really is. Does he ever get to games?
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, No, He got down here for the for the
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: Titans game the last week of the season, and that
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: was really really special for me.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: You know, when I was in Green Bay, he got
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: to come out to a game at Lambeau. He always
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: wanted to do that.
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: He was a huge coach Lit party fan and he
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: got to do that and then coming down here, Uh
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: we're able to win the division last week.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Of the season.
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: That was just a a really cool moment and experience, uh,
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: for both of us, for our family, and I was
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: just happy to for him to have the opportunity to
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: watch these guys play, because they're great guys.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: That that's probably the coolest part about it.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: Does he question play call?
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm sure, Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean, you know,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: but I'm just sad. My wife usually getting on me
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: about my call. So that's it. You know, I'm prepped
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: for that.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: I got you, I got you.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: If I may, let me throw out a couple of
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: names players and just kind of give me quick thoughts.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: A first one's kind of obvious. Trayvon Walker just resigned him.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: I think the world of him. I'm biased. He's just
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: you can't get a better guy to be around. He's
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: one of those guys. I was just talking about the
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: energy in the room and he's you know, there's like
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: no task too small for that guy. I got to
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: spend some time with his family after he had signed
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: and everything.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: We were talking just a few weeks ago, and you.
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: Get a really good idea of why he is how
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: he is, you know what I mean. Yeah, his mother's father,
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: they're just they're great people.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: And he's a really proud guy, you know what I mean.
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: He wants to get I mean, I think he had
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: surgery and was back I don't know, less than a
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: week later or whatever doing whatever he can and played
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: hurt the whole year. So he's a legitimate tough guy,
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean, And the team knows that.
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: The team knows he's a team guy and do anything
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: for those guys, which is awesome.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: What can healthy Trayvon do in this offense?
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: I mean, in his defense, I think a whole lot,
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: you know for him, just going back and watching obviously
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: in the offseason, you get a chance to watch the summer, uh,
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: you know where he was at, right and then obviously
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: battling through the injury and everything, because you know, he
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: had a wrist and a knee at one point in
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: the season, so he played through a lot. But he
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: is an exceptionally talented guy and great leadership qualities, and
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: you know, I mean, he's a hard guy to block.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: As you see. So I'm really really excited for him.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: And I said this before, Like, he's probably the guy
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: that he's so important.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: To what we do because you know, he carries a
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: lot of bricks.
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: He's we asked him to do a lot of jobs,
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: you know, so he's he's an exceptionally talented.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: You assume that he's going to do it. So he
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: put a lot on his plate.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, yeah, if you look
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: at him, I mean he kind of does everything from
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: playing three technique to four eye, to five technique to
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: nine technique, to drop it out.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: To rush in the passer to like, you know, he
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: does a whole lot.
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: There's not many guys that I think you could ask, hey,
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: two gap to tackle and then you know, dropped to
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: the flat and rush pass. You know that that's a
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: that's a pretty unique skill set that he has.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: He's a he's an unbelievable guy. Great dude.
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: When you go back and watch the UH, I will
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: say this, like so much of our early down defense
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: and any success that you have in the run game,
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: everything starts.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: You know, you want to be strong from the middle.
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: Out, you know, when you build a defense and and uh,
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: you know, you want to be a physical team in
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: the middle. And I think a lot of people. Probably
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: maybe some of that goes by uh, you know, people's
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: perspective because he has a kind of dirty work.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: You know, he's a three tackles. He impacted every run.
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it's it's pretty impressive to watch a guy,
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: you know, he gets double team, then he comes up
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: with a TfL like that's that's hard to do, it's
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: hard to move, but really that is it speaks more
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: so to one. He is uniquely strong. He's got a
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: great center of gravity and contact balance. But he is
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: really really schooled up and drilled up as a technician
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: in there in terms of block reaction and playing blocks.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: When a guy makes the kind of progress that Antonio
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: did last Antonio Johnson, Yeah, nobody really expected the season
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: out of him, and by season's end he's core guy.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah did you expect that? And what did he do
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: to make that happen?
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: I think it's so much of him, you know, I
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: think Anthony Perkins did a great job with Antonio. But
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: Antonio he's a really really hard working guy. And if
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: you could, you know, pick a guy to play that
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: position and have a multiple skill.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Set, he'd probably be the guy I'd picked.
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: Because when you look at him like bigger, longer guys.
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: So he can play near the line of scrimmage, you know,
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: so he can do other jobs aside from just being safety.
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: He's got coverage skills. You know, he's got reach and range.
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: He can play back in the half because of that range.
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: And he's got ball skills. So for me, he really
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: worked hard on his technique, you know, and just learning football.
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: Like his football IQ I think is exceptional and it's
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: getting better.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: That's the cool part about this phase.
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: Right now, you know, you're in the meeting rooms and
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: he's kind of answering the questions so quickly. Whereas last year,
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: you know, they're building a foundation, they're learning it, you know,
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: and right now there's recall and hopefully, like I said,
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: as you go back into doing the drill work, build
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: your skill set again, there's muscle memory and you can
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: play faster.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: Seventeen games with Travis Hunter this year, Yeah, what would
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: that mean?
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: That would be fantastic. I mean, he's got as you know,
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: he's incredible athlete. But Travis is another guy, is like
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: a really really bright guy, but he's got tremendous balance
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: and stop start. You know, he's gifted with that elite
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: at an elite level, and obviously the ball skills, his
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: ability to take the ball out of the air and
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: cover people up. So I think that's going to be
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: a huge shot in the arm for us defensively.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: And I thought, like, like the.
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: Job he had to do last year, that wasn't easy,
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: and I thought he did a great job with it
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: while he was healthy.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: We usually closed this thing out with somebody called the
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Ozone five. You did it last year, so we'll switched
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: up a bit.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: Three quick questions.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Sure you're give me.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: A high school player that you loved coaching and why?
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Oh man, who dude, I had a lot of them.
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: I coached a guy, Well, here's ago when I when
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: I was coaching linebackers, I coach a guy named Nick
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: betterline he played. Uh, he was a he wrestled at
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: Virginia Tech. Just super tough guy. I mean like, uh
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: played hurt all that time. Like it was one of
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: the toughest kids I was ever around, you know. Uh,
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: his father was a super tough guy.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Was hard. I was just you know, man's man, old
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: school guy.
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: Uh, but a really tough kid and genuinely like loved
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: his teammates got everything out of himself.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: That's a question right there.
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: I swear I could go on probably about ten hours
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: with that one, because there's so many guys. I feel
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: like you're leaving out literally like two hundred guys.
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: But what's your best football memory overall?
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: Man?
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: To take one? Because you've been at all levels, you've
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: been and you've lived it.
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: Man, that's that's a great one too, because there's so
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  Speaker 5: much of my I feel like my youth and everything
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  Speaker 5: has been tied to that too. I don't know I
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  Speaker 5: would say this. I just I love watching my brother's
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  Speaker 5: teams win. I love watching them have success. And some
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  Speaker 5: of my some of my favorite memories are that. Some
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  Speaker 5: of my favorite memories are you know, even in high
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  Speaker 5: school winning state championships, coach with my brother, or you know,
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: watching my brother's teams win, my dad's teams win win
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  Speaker 5: that those are some great memories. And obviously, honestly, like here,
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  Speaker 5: some of the things and last year, I think I'll
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  Speaker 5: carry those with me forever in retrospect, and it just
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  Speaker 5: makes you passionate to try and improve it and help
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  Speaker 5: the guys here.
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  Speaker 1: Win.
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  Speaker 4: Got you final question?
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  Speaker 2: Because I believe this will be the last time we
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: do this, we do in the off season. And I
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: believe you'll have a head coaching job next year when
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: you're an NFL head coach. What's the biggest thing you'll
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: take from having worked with Liam oh Man.
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  Speaker 5: I think the biggest thing I'll take from Liam uh
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  Speaker 5: is challenging your guys, you know, And I think he'd
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  Speaker 5: done an unbelievable job of challenging the guys, you know,
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  Speaker 5: to practice physical and be tough every day.
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  Speaker 4: It's hard.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, practice around here is hard.
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  Speaker 5: It's and and be the same guy every day, but
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: like he comes in with juice every day. Yeah it
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: is because it's a long season and let's be honest,
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: you probably not sleeping that much and all that, like
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  Speaker 5: he uh, he does. He's been the same guy every day.
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  Speaker 5: And I think that these guys uh have followed that lead,
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  Speaker 5: you know, the the path that he's set out for. Uh,
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  Speaker 5: they're following it because they're practicing hard, they're practicing physical.
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  Speaker 1: And I felt like as the season.
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: Went on, that was really important for us because we
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: had that culture and he just kept pushing the guys,
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: you know, he didn't he didn't. I I thought also
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: what he did was even in making sure that guys
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: were healthy, we still challenged them. We got a ton
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: of reps as a team. I thought that was unbelievable,
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  Speaker 5: Like what he did, how our practices were structured, how
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: many reps we got on a Wednesday.
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  Speaker 1: It was incredible.
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  Speaker 5: That was like one of the coolest things I ever
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: been around, because you felt like you were having two practices,
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: but it was just an up tempo. Guys weren't banging
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: their body up on a Wednesday. But it was like
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: it was incredible because you got so much repetition. You
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: got so many of those reps in over the course
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  Speaker 5: of the week, and that was super advantageous.
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  Speaker 2: Among other things, Camp, I could talk to you forever.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: You've already given same and more than time than you anticipated.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it, and thank you for joining the ozone podcast.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Again. Appreciate you so much, man, I.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Probably told Camp at the end there I could have
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: talked to him for three hours. I mean, there's nothing
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: more fun than talking football with him. It's also really
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: interesting to hear about his family and just how much
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: being where he's from and his background, it didn't just
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: shape him, it is him. He is Jersey football coach
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: through and through.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: We're biased about certain people around here. I won't lie.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Camps one of those people. I just love him. Would
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: run through a brick wall for him. I don't think
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: I could do that, but I would try.
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: He would hit a brick wall.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he has very Jersey. He reminds me of another
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: coach I covered, Dan Hurley, who's the head coach of
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: men's basketball coach at Ukon's from Jersey as well. And
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: I love them both so dearly. They're so intense about
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: their sport, but at when it's they're not on the field,
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: they care so much about their players, and it's not
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: always that way unfortunately. So when you are a player
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: and you're experiencing that, you'll do anything for that coach
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: because of how they're treat them as a person, but
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: then also coach them trying to get the best out
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: of them.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think we got into that a little
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: bit when I was talking to Camp, and it was
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: that's a fascinating thing to me because that's a new
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: dynamic in coaching in the last maybe fifteen twenty or
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying there were never guys who took that
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: approach before, but It's almost become the blueprint for how
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: you have to do it. I think in this day
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: and age, I think it's much harder to be the
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: i'll say, the Tom Coughlin style coach, where it's my
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: way or no way. I'm not saying it would never
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: work now, but there is this art of you know,
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: you've got to get buy in quickly. In the NFL,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: coach has changed jobs so fast and players change. You
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: have to rebuild this family in micro's second time, if
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: you will. And Liam and Camp maybe different personalities, but
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: seem like they are on the cutting edge of guys
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: who can do that, and you have to be able
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: to go in because there's no five year plans anymore
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: now or never. So I think when Camp becomes a
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: head coach, to me, that buy in and player belief
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: is ninety five percent of coaching in the NFL. He'll
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: obviously I don't worry about him passing that test.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: You can be tough, but you have to have some
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: care as well. You can't just it can't be a dictatorship.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: You have to care about them as well to.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: Get that buy in. So anyway, I hope people enjoy that.
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: Let's do some.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Ozon mailbag questions from the fans. First, we got Western Panavidra,
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: who says, what makes a player at this level non tough?
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: Why is toughness a favorite attribute of the regime for
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: draft picks when it is arguably the most ubiquitous trait
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: throughout the field of prospects.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what abiguous means, so I had
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: to look it up and I still don't, but I
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: do know.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: It's subjective, certainly, but I think with what we've been
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: around with, it's Yeah, it's almost hard to quantify in words,
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: but you know it.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: It's easy to say all NFL players are tough, and
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: all NFL players are tougher than me, but they're they're
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: most But within the context of NFL toughness, there are differences.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: And you can watch tape and see if a guy
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: plays a certain style every play, if he brings an attitude.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: All I can say is this team last year made
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: a concerted effort to be a tougher, more physical team.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if everybody saw it, because it's
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: easy watching on TV to see Trevor running and throwing
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: for touchdowns and thinking that that's the that's the defining
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: character characteristic of the Jaguars, and Trevor and the offense
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: matter very much. Everything matters, but the toughness that they
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: brought by the end of the season was what was
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: defining this team. And I think that's what they're going
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: to lean into going forward. And they can certainly tell
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: the difference.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: All right, Let's go to Brendan for Muley asking, is
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: Caleb Bransaw still going to play safety? With the turnover
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: at cornerback in time I'm away, do you think Gladstone
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: puts him back at cornerback where he played in college
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: to get comfortable again.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: First, no, and I can't understand the question, but yes,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: they've had turnover at corner. But I hate using the
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: word set because you're never set, but they're as close
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: to set as you can be at corner when you
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: have Travis and with health and Monteric starting on the outside,
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: you have Jordan Lewis, j and Jones coming back, so
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: and I'm leaving somebody out Christian braswell, so you feel
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: like you've got your corners. Ransaw to me is going
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: to be one of three safeties played. Antonio Johnson, Eric Murray,
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Ransaw and we'll see how I'm drawing a blank on
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: the rookie Jalen Jalen Husky, I think you will fit
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: in and pushed very quickly. So to me, not only
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: do they think he'll play safety, but there's a good
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: chance he'll are and be a very important piece of
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: the secondary.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: All right, and our final question is Chris from Mandarin,
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: who says there's a slight drop off at linebacker. In
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, when Devin Lloyd missed time due to injury,
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: it was simply more important to re sign DEFENSI ven
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: Trayvon Walker than to resign Lloyd. How do you think
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: Ventrell will fare this season?
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know, yeah, I don't know who knows
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: on the first part, Trayvon were versus Devin isn't even.
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: That's not a first person. I don't think one's a
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: core piece of a course.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: One was happening regardless. I don't think it was an
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: either or situation.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so not really the same conversation, but I get
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: why the reader went that direction.
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: I think even tre will be fine.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: I think the team believes that vent Trell will be fine.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: He was co starting going into last year.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: I think the key.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: So yeah, in training camp we thought he might be
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: this Devon was playing.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: In preseason he was, and if if there was a
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: leader among the cos, VN Treill was probably leading among
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: the codes going into the season. So, uh, here's the
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: important distinction to remember. I don't know that Ventrel Miller
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: is gonna have five picks with two fumble recoveries, whatever
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Devin's numbers were last year. But I do think that
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: there's no worry about the level of that position dropping
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: with Vintrel Miller. Will Will the level be the same
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: in terms of turnovers and takeaways? Maybe not overall. I've
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: had no impression that they were worried and and the
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: proof is in the action. Right If they were Trail
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Miller Miller, you would have probably seen him move up
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: to get a second round linebacker or sign a guy
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: in free agency.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: They didn't. Ben Treiler.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Miller is the guy, and I don't think you will see.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: I think people are gonna look because it's the hot
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: button issue for ways that they're not as good without
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Devin Lloyd. I don't think the facts on the field
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: and the play on the field is going to show
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: any drop off with Devon to vinrel Meller at all.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: I think obviously Devin had a career year last year,
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: and I think a lot of it was, you know,
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: turnovers or plays in primetime games like against the Chiefs
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: is pick six. So obviously a lot of those things
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: stick out in our mind. But when you think about
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: what you want from a linebacker's just not a premium position.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: So I don't think that was a focus point for them,
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: and they feel they can get by with Ventrel or
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: combination of other players that they have on this roster
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: already and still have success on defense and get the
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: turnovers and play play the way they want to play.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Very hard to replicate interceptions that would be hard to
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: duplicate from the line right position.
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: But it would have been hard for Devin.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: That's what I mean for Devin, even in his new role,
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: to replicate what he was able to do. He's very
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: opportunistic in the right place, right time. He's very athletic
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: and took advantage of that. But that's not a position
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: where you expect that every year necessary.
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: Right, very hard, you can expect it.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: You're going to be disappointed probably, So uh Kai, again,
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: thanks for doing this.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: I feel like we're getting better.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Improvement is improvement, every day, one day. Thank you and
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: I hope everybody enjoyed listening to Camp. We can't have
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: them on every week although we would have been good,
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: absolutely no doubt, and thank you for joining the ozone
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  Speaker 2: podcast