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Our Makeup Artist Tells ALL! | Capítulo 277 · Locatora Radio [A Radiophonic Novela]

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  Speaker 1: When it comes to your art and your career as
• 0:02
  Speaker 1: a makeup artist, Like when did it start for you
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: this inspiration to go into hair and makeup.
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  Speaker 2: I always loved drawing and art and stuff like that,
• 0:11
  Speaker 2: and I am also growing up always dress Emily up,
• 0:14
  Speaker 2: like I'd like to dress her up and.
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  Speaker 3: Like outfits and your sisters.
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  Speaker 2: Younger than me, and I would do her hair and
• 0:20
  Speaker 2: I would just like pick out her clothes things like that.
• 0:24
  Speaker 2: And then but one day I was like, I think
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  Speaker 2: that my art skills could transfer into like makeup skills,
• 0:30
  Speaker 2: and I think I wanted to do like magazine editorial,
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  Speaker 2: like you know, we grew up watching Top Model and
• 0:39
  Speaker 2: all those things. So I was like, I know, I
• 0:41
  Speaker 2: know what I'm doing.
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  Speaker 3: I could do that.
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  Speaker 1: J Menwell, I'm j Manwell all the j's, all the
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  Speaker 1: j's combined.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I took a.
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  Speaker 2: Course at eLAC. It was like a certificated course.
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  Speaker 3: And then that's all I needed.
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  Speaker 2: And then I started like bullying friends and family to
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  Speaker 2: let me do their makeup.
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  Speaker 5: Radiola, I'm the Osa and I'm Ala.
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  Speaker 4: You're listening to Lokata Radio.
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  Speaker 5: A radiophonic novella, which is just an extra way of
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  Speaker 5: saying a podcast, and today we have a third Loka.
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  Speaker 4: We are starting something new.
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  Speaker 5: We are bringing some of our favorite past guests, our friends,
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  Speaker 5: to join us and host an episode of look At Radio.
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  Speaker 4: So today we have.
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  Speaker 5: The illustrious, my longtime friend and our makeup artist, Roberto Rios.
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  Speaker 3: That's me, Hi, Hi, thank you for having.
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  Speaker 5: Me, Thank you for joining. We love your look today,
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  Speaker 5: Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: It has been a long.
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  Speaker 5: Time coming, and it has been We've known each other
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  Speaker 5: practically our whole lives and then you have been doing
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  Speaker 5: our makeup.
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  Speaker 4: Or quite some time since twenty nineteen.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, sounds very eighteen.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, some of our most iconic look, some of our
• 2:00
  Speaker 1: most beautiful days are thanks to Robert.
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  Speaker 3: It's true.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to talk about all of it, but
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  Speaker 1: I want to go back to like the fact that
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  Speaker 1: it's a long time coming. When you got the invitation
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  Speaker 1: Robert to come and be our third look at Dora,
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  Speaker 1: what went through your head? Were you like, finally.
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  Speaker 3: Say which time? And I'm just like no, I was
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  Speaker 3: really excited.
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  Speaker 2: Like when you guys ask like would you be interested,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, well, of course I'll be there.
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  Speaker 5: I have to admit I am so scared to tell
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  Speaker 5: our best friend Jackie that I.
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  Speaker 4: Was giving you a guest before she is.
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  Speaker 5: I have not told her, Okay, I will tell her
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  Speaker 5: before it drops. But she has been asking to guest
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  Speaker 5: star on look At for years now, and so she
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  Speaker 5: will get an episode eventually. We actually tried last season
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  Speaker 5: and scheduling didn't work out.
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  Speaker 3: But there you go.
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  Speaker 4: Now they will come. But here you are today, little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Then we're so happy.
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  Speaker 1: He was true. And when we were talking about we
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  Speaker 1: were in our production meeting, who's going to be our
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  Speaker 1: third loc Who's going to be a guest host? Did
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  Speaker 1: I not say Robert?
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  Speaker 4: Immediately?
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  Speaker 1: Immediately? Imiately, I said Robert. Because every time we're in
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  Speaker 1: your chair, every time we sit down with you and
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  Speaker 1: you beat our faces, we have the best conversations.
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  Speaker 2: Good, I'm glad you know what Those times are some
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  Speaker 2: of my favorite times, like ever really And it's so
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  Speaker 2: fun to see like the the behind the scenes or
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  Speaker 2: be a part of it and then see like the
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  Speaker 2: spectacle and show that it is and to know that
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  Speaker 2: like I helped create it, even if it's in just
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  Speaker 2: a small way. You guys give me a lot of
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  Speaker 2: leeway with the looks, Like sometimes I get little to
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  Speaker 2: know direction or instruction, and they're like you sometimes I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what you're wearing till the day of, So
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  Speaker 2: I do plan them out. I do like put them
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  Speaker 2: on myself before I put them on you. Yes, and
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  Speaker 2: then I'm always like, what's look better on them?
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  Speaker 3: What's going to look better on that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: If I remember correctly, You've told me that you do
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  Speaker 4: like one side me.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm lazy because I don't want to do it all. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I feel like this eye is the osa and
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  Speaker 2: this eye is malat and I like think about like
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  Speaker 2: your eye shapes and all that and the colors.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and artists, Yeah no.
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  Speaker 1: A true ARTI is a true professional. And I just
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  Speaker 1: have such vivid memories of sitting in your bedroom in
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  Speaker 1: your director's chair, Oh yes, up against the window, the
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  Speaker 1: natural yes, dogs around, oh yes, sleeping, barking, gallivanting, you're
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  Speaker 1: beating our faces, and on your TV. Maybe it's a
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  Speaker 1: Jalo music video, maybe it's Kylie Mino, yeah yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: it's always a fucking vibe.
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  Speaker 3: I love it.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, I love that you guys like that too,
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  Speaker 2: because I don't know you guys could like put your
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  Speaker 2: own music or do whatever. I just like there to
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  Speaker 2: be something, and then I need something to keep my rhythm,
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  Speaker 2: my timing, and I'll be like, oh, every song is
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  Speaker 2: about three minutes. And then I'll be like, Okay, this
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  Speaker 2: is taken forever or whatever the case is. Yes, And
• 5:01
  Speaker 2: then hair always takes the longest. It always always does,
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  Speaker 2: no matter what it is, even if it's simple, forever.
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  Speaker 4: Because you have so much hair, so much.
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  Speaker 5: I'm in and I'm like done in life.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, and it's Robert. Robert does our hair and
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  Speaker 1: our makeup.
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  Speaker 3: Not today, Yeah, no, not today, not today.
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  Speaker 1: I did my hair in my and he looks amazing,
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  Speaker 1: looks fab But for our most like our Spotify campaign,
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  Speaker 1: our Times Square billboard, you know, like the Current show
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  Speaker 1: art for our iHeart show, like Robert did her hair,
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  Speaker 1: Robert did our makeup, and very creative each time with
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  Speaker 1: each look, and like, really, you really took your time
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  Speaker 1: on each of us. And sometimes you're like, okay, give
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  Speaker 1: me a time check because we have so much time.
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  Speaker 3: How much is left? Yeah, And I'm like, well, there's
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  Speaker 3: I haven't put the lashes on yet or whatever. Right.
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  Speaker 3: I think my favorite.
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  Speaker 2: One was the La Times one that's such a good spread,
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  Speaker 2: good photos, the makeup.
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  Speaker 3: I just love it so much.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that was you know, pandemic days. It was twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 5: So you did our makeup in the backyard, in my backyard.
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  Speaker 3: Outside it was only US three US three.
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  Speaker 4: You were messed up.
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  Speaker 5: We were messed up until we were getting our faces done. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: we like were doing. We were doing, taking as much
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  Speaker 5: precautions as we could, like during considering the circumstances, right
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  Speaker 5: and so, and then the shoot was in my backyard.
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  Speaker 1: Fabulous.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, in the La Times, we've.
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  Speaker 1: Done a couple of fun shoots in your backyard, including
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  Speaker 1: our lemonade stand shoot. What season was it?
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  Speaker 4: That was season six?
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  Speaker 1: Season six, and Robert makes a cameo though.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, you did her hair and makeup, and you also
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  Speaker 5: made a camera and.
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  Speaker 3: I was in the video.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, we had you working like criple oversh. We're like
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  Speaker 1: do our hair, door makeup and star in the video.
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  Speaker 3: I think you guys did tell me in advance I
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  Speaker 3: would be in it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah we did, we did it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You were not that bad.
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  Speaker 1: Please no, but you were working hard.
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  Speaker 4: You were working hard.
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  Speaker 1: And I think like one of the comps was like
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  Speaker 1: give us like a Priscilla Pressley.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of like, okay, like when people ask for
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  Speaker 2: that look, I'm like, this is extra work. It's more work,
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  Speaker 2: like yeah, but it looks good. It speaks for itself.
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  Speaker 2: Look at the photos, look at the hair. It was
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  Speaker 2: very like sleek, sleek sixties, like not as big, not
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  Speaker 2: as like frazzle, but like also very like within your
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  Speaker 2: like pop like colorful.
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  Speaker 1: Yes exactly, no vibe yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I love the setup.
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  Speaker 4: Who made that, Red Jessica Redheart Media.
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  Speaker 5: Really she designed the set, she she took photos.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was gorgeous, photo video, audio, lighting, set design,
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  Speaker 1: she did everything, very lean crew. It was really always
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  Speaker 1: it's truly impressive.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The talent, the talent, your talent, it's truly very talented.
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  Speaker 1: And your talent. I'm very curious about your origins when
• 7:55
  Speaker 1: it comes to your art and your career as a
• 7:57
  Speaker 1: makeup artist, Like when did it's start for you? This
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: this this inspiration to go into hair and makeup.
• 8:06
  Speaker 2: I always loved drawing and art and stuff like that.
• 8:11
  Speaker 2: And I am also growing up, I would I was
• 8:15
  Speaker 2: always dress Emily up like I'd like to dress her
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  Speaker 2: up and like outfits. And your sister she's fs younger
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  Speaker 2: than me, and I would do her hair and I
• 8:23
  Speaker 2: would just like pick out her clothes things like that.
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  Speaker 2: And then one day I don't think I wasn't putting
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  Speaker 2: her a makeup. I not, not for not till like
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  Speaker 2: twenty fourteen or later later. But one day I was like,
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  Speaker 2: I think that my art skills could transfer into like
• 8:38
  Speaker 2: makeup skills, and I think I wanted to do like
• 8:45
  Speaker 2: like magazine editorial, like you know, we grew up watching
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  Speaker 2: Top Model, yeah and all those things.
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  Speaker 3: So I was like, I know, I know what I'm doing.
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  Speaker 1: I could do that J Manwell I'm j Manwell all
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  Speaker 1: the j's, all the the j's combined.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I took a course at eLAC.
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  Speaker 2: It was like a certificated course, and then that's all
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  Speaker 2: I needed. Like I I think I took like an
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  Speaker 2: entire paycheck, which back then I was a teacher's assistant.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was like five hundred dollars, and I
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  Speaker 2: spent it all at Mac, Like I just I spent
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  Speaker 2: it all at Mac.
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  Speaker 3: And I remember the salesperson was so happy.
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  Speaker 2: And then they gave me like all these extra things
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  Speaker 2: and I was like, well, I did just spend five
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  Speaker 2: hundred dollars.
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  Speaker 3: But I had a list that I had compiled.
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  Speaker 2: From like YouTube videos of like this, they're saying to
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  Speaker 2: buy this, They're saying to buy this. And this was
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  Speaker 2: like the still the olden days. It was like pre
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  Speaker 2: the twenty sixteen makeup, so it wasn't like as out
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  Speaker 2: there yet.
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  Speaker 3: It was still like.
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  Speaker 2: Real people making real tutorials of like this is what
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  Speaker 2: works versus like influencers or whatever. Yeah, and then I
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  Speaker 2: started like bullying friends and family to let me do
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  Speaker 2: their makeup. I think one day I did, I did
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  Speaker 2: yours in your room.
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  Speaker 1: It was that was very early day, very early day.
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  Speaker 2: I tried to do this like Gaga Lott I remember,
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  Speaker 2: I remember it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what was the event.
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  Speaker 5: It was just practicing, Like he just came over to
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  Speaker 5: my house like Friday night.
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  Speaker 3: With all those all.
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  Speaker 4: The mat bags, did my makeup and then spend the night.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so yeah, fun.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, it's been like serious, serious, since you
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  Speaker 2: guys asked me to do the film, I think, and.
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: Since Lookitha's anonymous, Yes we have a short film. Robert
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  Speaker 1: did all of the hair and makeup for the entire.
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  Speaker 3: Also one of my faves.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, yes, and that one was so fun because
• 10:36
  Speaker 5: it got to be like funky and like futuristic, you know, it's.
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  Speaker 3: Like built another world.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, well, what would these girls, what would
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  Speaker 2: these women look like in this world where they're like
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: have to be hyper feminine but also like want to
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: be individuals. And I think that's why it was like
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  Speaker 2: the hyper femme was like blush everywhere, blush everywhere in
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  Speaker 2: the matching lips, and then the individuality was like in
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: the stones and like different patterns and different stones and
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  Speaker 2: like also the colors that were chosen were like for you, I.
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  Speaker 1: Guess, yeah, absolutely, it was like a drunk blush, yes, yes,
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  Speaker 1: and then you did sort of a because it's a
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  Speaker 1: science fiction movie, and so the face gems like I
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: remember the us as almost looks like a Wi Fi signal.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like a like a star spiral thing out. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and I think I did, like everything blown out, like eyeshadow,
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  Speaker 2: just blown out, like you just put it on, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and put on your blush like that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's on YouTube. You can watch Lokitha's anonymous makeup.
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: Look at the makeup. That's all Robert and so you
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  Speaker 1: you do have known each other since middle school. Yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: take us back.
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  Speaker 5: I don't want to go back, but yes, we have
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  Speaker 5: known each other for that long.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like those times, like what I mostly remember
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: is like hanging out at your house? Would we me
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  Speaker 2: and Jackie were always at your house, like twenty four
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  Speaker 2: to seven. It feels like like you said, but just
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  Speaker 2: spend the night.
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  Speaker 3: Like I don't even know what we didn't do.
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  Speaker 4: We didn't do anything. It's like you were just hanging out.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 4: It's pre like everything that.
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  Speaker 5: We have today, right, but it's like, yeah, we were
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  Speaker 5: just talk and laugh and watch things.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of like How to Lose Your Mantendes.
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  Speaker 5: We watched a little queer films. I feel high school.
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  Speaker 5: This is in high school.
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  Speaker 2: Once we got to high school, we started like well
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: I was, I think you were too, were like looking
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  Speaker 2: up movies and then we would buy that search for them.
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  Speaker 5: And we would find them at like the stores that
• 12:37
  Speaker 5: used to exist what do they call blogbusters Blockbuster They
• 12:40
  Speaker 5: would buy them.
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  Speaker 4: Remember when that mall the.
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  Speaker 2: Off brand blockbusters kind of thing where you could rent videos.
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  Speaker 2: I think like it was the end of the videos time,
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: I think where we did vice and we would buy
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: them and it was like bad like BC gay movie vs.
• 13:00
  Speaker 3: That, Like yeah you know that, but.
• 13:03
  Speaker 5: They were like cannon you know, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: absolutely yeah. But we met in the sixth grade. We
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  Speaker 5: went to a Catholic school, Catholic middle school, and then
• 13:13
  Speaker 5: maintained our friendship, like through high school. Robert I was
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  Speaker 5: Robert's prom date.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I love me and Jackie.
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  Speaker 4: Two girls prom. We had two dates.
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  Speaker 2: Someone texted someone who was that It was to Jackie
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  Speaker 2: that was like you were part of that trio, and
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: that was like that was.
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  Speaker 4: Us, that was us. We were the trio.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have a prom photo?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we do, I'll send it to you.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and it's you with both of your prom dates.
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  Speaker 3: Yea, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Photo from the photographer. And then like I have that
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  Speaker 2: one that we framed.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that one.
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  Speaker 1: Did this raise eyebrows at the prom?
• 13:52
  Speaker 3: I think it was stunty on my part? I did?
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  Speaker 3: I had I made prompt core I was top five.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Can I ask where did you at high school?
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  Speaker 3: It was called St. Paul High School?
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yes, Catholic high school, co ed high school, one
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  Speaker 5: of the only like coed Catholic were you.
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  Speaker 1: Can I ask were you openly gay in high school.
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  Speaker 6: Towards the end, yes, like I would say maybe like
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  Speaker 6: at prom, yes, yeah, definitely, we're like I think I
• 14:19
  Speaker 6: got to junior year and there was still people that
• 14:21
  Speaker 6: would be like like this guy next to me and
• 14:25
  Speaker 6: I forget which course was like hey, you like guys
• 14:29
  Speaker 6: and I was like that day, I was like yeah, and.
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  Speaker 2: Then and then he didn't say anything like like that
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  Speaker 2: was the end of it.
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  Speaker 3: So I think from then on I was just like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it is what it is.
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  Speaker 2: But I remember us because that was after the tenth grade. Yes, yes,
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  Speaker 2: when we went Okay, that school, that school used to
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: do something called March for Hunger and it's like a charity.
• 14:53
  Speaker 5: Was even thinking of that, but okay, I was thinking
• 14:56
  Speaker 5: about we who pride we went to?
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: We went to.
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: The first pride that we went to was together.
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  Speaker 3: Your dad or your mom know, your dad didn't want
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  Speaker 3: us to.
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  Speaker 5: Go or I don't remember that I really there was
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: my mom dropped us off because.
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: Your mom was defending us.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: She was like, it's a festival, They're just gonna go
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: and be it's a parade. And she kept telling you
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: they're going to a parade.
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: It's a parade.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: And then we were like you were like the American
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: apparel AM yes, tube tube top, it's mostly why with
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  Speaker 2: rainbow stripes.
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  Speaker 3: I don't remember what I was.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry.
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  Speaker 5: I was wearing little like tiny shorts and a little
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  Speaker 5: tube top.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, fun, yes, And we went and we were
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: both like, we're not gay.
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  Speaker 4: No no, no, that's not how I read.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: So we went to who Pride. I took my then
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: like you know, high school girl friends.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: That was the drama, really, because didn't you I remember
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: your dad did was upset, don't go.
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: Anywhere, locomotive, We'll be right back, because.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: Because she was going because they like maybe.
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: But the reason that I we went to Pride was
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: because I, you know context sophomore year of high school. Okay,
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: I don't know what I know now, but I remember thinking, well,
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: I was out to myself and I had a girlfriend,
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: and I remember thinking like, I think Robert is also queer.
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: But Robert hasn't said anything. Yes, and so.
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: Robert hasn't told me yes, Cla, Robert hasn't told me anything.
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: I want him to know that, like he can tell
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: me anything, and that I'm supportive and like it's fine,
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: you know, And so I like planned a weeho Pride
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: and my mom dropped us off because again.
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: We didn't have a license.
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: Yes, and we're like walking through the little fest and
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: I remember like holding Roberts hand and saying like you
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: can tell me, like it's okay. In retrospect, like I
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: should have just waited for Robert to tell me when
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: he was ready, right, But at the time that felt
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: like what a friend should do, Like a friend should
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: let you know, like it's okay to tell me, you know,
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: And that was that was.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: That very sweet.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: It was you like took him to the Macy's Day
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Parade of yes queer event.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: I love that you went all that. We went big,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: We went big.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: I remember we did talk about it that date.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: I was going to tell the story about March for
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Hunger and then you were with We we found each other,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: right because we went to different schools, but all these
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: schools did the march together. It's like this charity thing
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: where you want twenty six.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: Months, you do a marathon, but you're walking.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: It starts in East La and ends in Santa.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah okay, and there's like a trail marked and then
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: they have like volunteers that like can pick you up
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: and drop you off a little bit further ahead or whatever.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: But there was this party where it was just you,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: me and your then partner, I think, and I wasn't
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: with anyone from my school, and we were like under
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: a freeway overpass and you're like you should scream out
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: loud that you came out or that you're getting You
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: told me to say something, and I was like, I'm
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: not going to do that, and I did it. I
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: don't remember that that was after I did because Musphroger
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: is at the end of the whatever, it doesn't matter.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think after we talked that day, it
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: was just we were new.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: We just knew.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it was we ho pride, But there was
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: not a coming out.
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: That was like that was like the coming out like
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: for like him, yeah, like him telling me or affirming.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Like did you did you have like a formal coming
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: out or was it just.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Like I, like she said, like, it's not like I
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: could hide it or you know that I wasn't very obvious.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: My overplucked eyebrows.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: But beautiful eyebrows and.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: I perfectly blowed up hair.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I told my parents not till I was
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: nineteen where I was like, hey, I just want to
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: make sure you guys like no, like I don't know
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: if I did have to tell you, but I'm telling
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: you now, and my mom like cried a little, I think,
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: and like hugged me, and then my dad was like, yeah,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: I knew.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: And it was just that because you've always been yourself, yes, yes.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've tried to be other people, so it didn't
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: work out.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Like I'm just I can't imagine you like putting on
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: a facade or trying to be someone you're not.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: No, it's always been this, but it would be like
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: if there would be like, hey, you like boys, right,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: and I would be like no. And that was like
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: literally like I don't know seventh, eighth, and ninth grade.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: You know, it's like when my child child. Yeah, but
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: I was lingering in the underwear aisle looking at the
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: the pictures.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: And then okay, so when was like your first real
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: like out and about open gay love, I don't know.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, So for a lot of gay people, because like
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: if you didn't come out early, you're like in high.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: School, you don't have like all those like early.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Things, so like kind of when you do start and
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: then and you're older, you throw yourself into things. I
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: would say that, like at the beginning, I slept.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Around a lot.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: What does dating look like for you? Now?
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: I'm seeing someone right now. His name is Jared. I
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: really like him.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: We love Jared.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's lovely.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: It's been it's been maybe to I don't even know.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Jared, I don't know.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: It's been like two years. It's going really well.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: He's met my friends, he's met my family, and it
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: took me a long time to start seeing someone.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Full disclosure, Jason passed away, so.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: After that it was quite a few years until this
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: is my first relationship after that, and Jared is aware
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: of that too.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: I'm really happy where I am right now and like
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: what I've found and I want to continue on that path.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: I think it's really difficult to date in general, like
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: for anyone. But I don't know if you guys know
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: how men are. But it's even worse when there's two
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: of them in the relationship. So it's like all the
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: same stuff, but also like you understand it, so it's
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: really weird.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: Where like I.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Don't know, sometimes from your point of view, you might
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: be like why did you do that? Where I'm like
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: I think, I think I know why.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Does that almost make it worse? Or like you know
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: exactly why?
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: They're also why people like a lot of like gay
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: relationships are famously like you get together and you're like
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: moved in in two weeks and then like break up
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: three months from then or whatever. I think queer people
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: have like a lot of shorthand, and I think it
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: is easy to jump steps just because you're like, oh,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: you both you want this, you want this, Yes, I
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: want that too, and it like you just sort of
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: leap ahead.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: I've been trying to not do that.
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: Sounds really healthy, like you're self aware and like you
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: you know you want and how you're going to move.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Yes, exactly.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: And I'm just sort of treading with caution because I mean,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: miscommunications are so easy, like when it's something like as
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: simple as like what you want to get to eat
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: or whatever, So why wouldn't it apply to like when
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: you're talking about relationships stuff or what you want or
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: or sometimes you don't know what you want.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, even even the tone that you use to answer
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: a very simple question, oh yeah, can like yeah change
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: an entire mood an entire day, an entire evening.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: Not what you said, it's how you said it.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: It's how you said it.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: I'm guilty of that.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough. I am too. I think sometimes I'm
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: very matter of fact. I don't know if you notice,
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: and it just.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Comes out or comes up monotone and yes, sounds like
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: I'm being sarcastic or something, but.
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: I try to present myself as genuine.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: I've always found you to be extremely genuine. Like I
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: know that, like if I'm sitting in your chair, Robert
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: is either going to say nothing or everything, which I
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: love and appreciate.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, you know what. That does depend on
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: my mood.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: But I'm like, I don't like when I get in an
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: uber or something, I don't don't talk to me, like
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: don't look at me. But also things like when I
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: get my nose done, please don't talk to me. If
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: you're cutting my hair, please don't talk. I really love
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: the guy that cuts my hair.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: He doesn't talk to me. It's great.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: You do you say this at the onset?
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: No, okay, I catch the vibe.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: We're like, you know, when they try to make small
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: talk's because some people want to sit in the chair
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: and like spill their guts or talk about their day,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: and and that's like an outlet for them.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: That's not the case for me.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think they realize eventually because it's.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Your, it's it's your, you're in transit, you're doing self care,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: you're thinking, you're not socializing. I need to learn how
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: to present myself this way because every time I get waxed,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: it's like where have you been? Where are you going?
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: What are you doing? That's to distract them, to distract
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: me and them from all of us from what's going on.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: They're like getting butterfly, put your knees, your jass, blah
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: blah blah. But sometimes I just want the whole thing
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: to happen in silence. But that might be worse.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: It might be maybe it m might be worse.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah if they played like.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Just a little and yeah, which okay brings me too.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Every time we're in your chair, you always not only
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: have a playlist, but if we're at your house, you
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: put up music videos on your TV, which I've always
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: I love that touch. It's a great time.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Do you guys know that that gay people are famous
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: for this?
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, good for music videos.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Like like music video parties, like playing when we just
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: sit around watching.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Oh sure, yes, because music videos are artistry and incredible
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: and like I think about you and I think about
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: slo music videos. I think about Britney again, Kylie.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: I mean all the icons.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I think queer people.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Really appreciate the like all the work that went into it,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: and also the visual like does provide a lot of.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Like meaning and context.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Sometimes I always think of I always think of the
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: VM A Beyonce Drunk in Love. She's like she's on
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: stage like soaking wet, and I'm like, that's what the
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: song is about, and that's why she like visually had
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: to present herself as like like her was her hair
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: was wet, her hair, And I think that another artist
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: wouldn't have cared about that or not put as much thought.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: But it always stuck with me that like to her
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: that that's what is the song is about, and that's
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: what the visual is.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: I love it. It's a lost to art. The girls
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: just are not doing music videos like so many other
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: things that have been lost.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: They don't make any money.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: No, they don't make money.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and like people like I mean it depends on
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: the genre. But I feel like artists like will release
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: a single, like the build up of an album is
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: not the same.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: Right before it was like in.
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: The olden days, it was like you release your single
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: on the radio and that gets played out and then
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: it's like album release and then if you're like a
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: super fan, you're gonna buy the album and you're like
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: you're gonna learn like the album front to cover, right,
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: But now it's like a single.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: Maybe you get an album.
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: Hopefully you get an album, but like you don't always
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: get an album, and so the resource says to make
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: a music video. I just feel like it's not allocated
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: in that way. It's not given that it's due. It's
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: like the artistry for the artistry that it is.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: We're not going to get another era of Gaga, Bad
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Romance or Judas or Alejandro Oh Good. I mean the
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: production value, yeah, exactly, the set, the actors, the costumes,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: it's just not happening anymore.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And like I said, I think it provides context
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: to like the grandness of those songs. Like each song
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: you just stated, some people might think, like, oh Gaga,
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: it's just like pop or.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: That doesn't mean anything.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: But I think that those are like really big songs
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: of like a lot of meaning, and I think that
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: her visual is like just as grand. She's saying, like
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: this is how big the song is. It's like this world.
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, like the if you maybe aren't catching the
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: symbolism or the metaphor and the song, you're visually going
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: to see it on the music video.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Exactly exactly speaking because you brought up j Lo I do.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: I play that video a lot the waiting for Tonight one.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: Oh yes you do, ye yes. It's so good. It's great.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: The makeup is good.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: The makeup was by Kevin Nakuan, who is like world famous,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: like kind of everything we do nowadays is like from him,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: as we like. He made up the like highlighting, contouring
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: and cut priases like like everything. And then that video
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: I love the like when she has like all the
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: glitter on her face and all the rhinestones like each
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: one was individually placed on. Oh wow, I'm sure some
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: people have seen the behind the scenes of that.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: It's really good.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: Oh I love that.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: So when you're watching, so we're talking about all these
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: music videos of course, and like the big picture of
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: them and the grandness and how it relates to the music,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: but you're breaking down, like the makeup, looks, the glan Oh.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I look at everything, and that's like what
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: I said about queer people appreciating appreciating everything. It's like
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: the outfit and the hair and the makeup. Like I
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: always go back to the to Brittany Hit Me Baby
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: One More time. It's like, yeah, how many looks is
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: she in in that? Like each cheek is different, and
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: like the make the makeup is so good. It's like
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: that frosty pink lip and like just white on her eyelid,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: and and that like all her hair is pulled back
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: and they put that wig just on the back of.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: It hem to make to make it look like it's
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: a bumpet almost. It's not.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: It's a wig.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: It's not a bumpet. Yeah.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And you you might look at that look and
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: this is I think, what's so beautiful about like putting
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: together a production like this. You might look at Brittany
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Hit Me Baby One More time and think like, oh,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: it's so simple.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but a simple look.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: But it's anything but simple exactly. It's like such high
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: production value and it's really very high glam. Yeah, but
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: it's not like, you know, twenty millimeters lashes exactly. It's
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: it's the one hair piece. It's the straight hair. It's
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: like you're saying, like the white on.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: The Yeah, the like architecture, the design of it.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: The design of it, like it takes a lot to
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: look that sleek and simple.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Dolly Parton says, takes a lot of money.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: So it's cheap.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, we just talked about on the last episode.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Robert, were you listening, Yes, I love thank you,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: thank you listening to our maxing episode. Yes, speaking of
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: maxing now that you're here, Yes, what's your take on
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: like the beauty maxing, the style maxing? Like where is
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: it going? What are we doing with it? Are we
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: doing it well? Are we doing it wrong? Like how
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: should we be working this?
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: I think I think you guys touched on that, like
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: it's a new label. That's like we're like that, but
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: nothing about it is new. It's like, well, what have
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: we been doing this whole time? And then also like
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: I always.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: Take it back to like.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: Don't go anywhere, lokomotives, We'll be right back, Like, well.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: If you get regularly, is that looks maxing? Or like
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: if you brush your teeth, is that looks max hygiene?
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: Is it? I don't think so, because.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: We might we might maybe underestimate how little people are doing.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: Is that what it is?
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: I think sometimes we underestimate like actually, like we may
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: be doing our we're maybe doing a lot, and maybe
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: like most people are not even doing you know what,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: that's a fair point.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: You know something you know, like when well and what
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: I do in work. It's like some people like they're like,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: no I don't use sound screen, or no I don't
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: wear face.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: Cream or like that. I'm like, well, then I'm doing
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: a lot more than you, I guess. But I think
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: the maxing thing.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Is specifically about trying to attain something you don't have,
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: versus like taking.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: Care of yourself.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like to answer my own question earlier, I was
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: being facetious about brushing your teeth.
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: But but there are people that don't brush their teeth.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I see, I see it.
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: I've seen it online.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I think it's just about marketing, and but
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: I think maxing is about something you don't have, Like
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: like those guys wouldn't need to hammer their.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Faces if they had a chisel.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Jael already, like they would just be chiseled, right, So
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: at the end, it's about maxing is about going to
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: an extreme to get it versus like getting your haircut.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Again, I was joking.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: I remember once we were I don't remember where we
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: were coming from or where we were going, but we
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: were in a car with you, Robert, and we were
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: talking about plastic surgery, cosmetic surgery, and you were like,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: plastic surgery is about taking an eight to a tent.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: It's not about like taking like a two to a ten.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: That's not what it's about exactly.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: And that's like a like a terrible way to put it,
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: like rating people one to ten. But but what I
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: meant is that, like you can make small changes, like
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: you can change your hair, and you can I don't
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: know where high heels are put the for the men
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: they put the things in the shoe.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Right, yes, yes, an insert whatever.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: But will you ever be taller?
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: No?
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: And like can you get surgery to do that? I
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: think there's one that exists, But like why that? To me,
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: that doesn't make any sense. It's like you're trying to
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: get from point A to point Z. But like maybe
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: if you I don't know, we're.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: More accepting of yourself. You could get from point A
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: to point B.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So I feel like this to me is
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: tying into the idea of maxing or like you don't
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: have it. Maybe you're not going under the knife, but
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: here's like little ways that you might get closer to
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: this thing, this ideal, this next level.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: I don't like the whole concept of it, because I mean,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: it's just like you I think you talked about, like
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: the capitalism of it all. It's just like something that's
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: being repackaged. And at the end of the day, like
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: anything that is a trend or something new, it's like
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: usually they're trying to sell you something it's and that's
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: why trends change, Like that's why skinny pants went out
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: so that they could make you buy baggy ones, and
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: then baggy ones will go out and they'll make you
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: buy skinny ones, right.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: And so on and so forth.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: I always think about I don't know if I have
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: all the dates right, but I think that I read
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: in the nineteen twenties they started marketing razors to women
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: because they weren't selling enough razors because only men used
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: razors to shave their faces.
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: Okay, so they.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Started a marketing campaign to tell women that they should
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: shave their arms and legs and to look whatever, more beautiful,
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: more youthful, whatever the case was.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: And since then that's what we do.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, And so I think the maxing thing is
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: just to get you to buy more stuff to like,
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: someone is like, we need to sell more hammers. So
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: we need to tell guys to go build a house.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: Are building?
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: We're not building houses.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: We need another reason for hammers. We need to recreate the.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: Ham big hammer. Doing this, it's.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: The big hammer industrial complex.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: And who doesn't love a big hammer?
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, so this this leads me to my next question, Robert,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: what are some because you work you work in beauty
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: not only as a makeup artist, but you also work retail.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: So what are some tips from you for the audience
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: about like what they should not be spending their money
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: on that is just like being pushed on them visa
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: v sales and maxing and trends versus. What are some
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: real sustainable essentials that people should be investing in for beauty.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: I think I'll start off by saying that if you're
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: gonna do nothing at all, you should have a face
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: wash and you should wear sunscreen, and that's kind of
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: like all you really need for makeup. It's like so
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: dependent on each individual person.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: I like to tell people that.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: They should spend money on what's important to them. So
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: like someone that like never wears eye shuttle, you shouldn't
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: be buying expensive eye shuttle or big palettes, like there's no,
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: you're not gonna use it. Don't do that. But like
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: if you always wear like a signature red lip, then
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: that's when I would be like, maybe you should get
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: the Door nine nine nine most famous red lip or
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: the mac Ruby wou or you know, like that's where
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: you should spend your money, and that's where you'll you
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: won't regret that you spent it and you'll actually use it.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: And I think in terms of like the retail space,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: and like when you help people.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Just know know.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: More about your it's like what do you want to
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: achieve and what do you feel about it throughout the day.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Like a lot of people don't know if they're oily
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: or dry or normal, and they.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Don't know what they want to achieve. They just know
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: they want to look better.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: And that really makes it difficult because I'm like, I
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: there's so many things here, and a lot of them
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: do work, But I don't know how to direct you
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: if you don't know like what your desired outcome is.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I would say just wear sunscreen and you'll
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: be fine.
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: Yes, where sunscreen.
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: When I have a question about a shade, I like
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: will text Robert. I'm like, Robert, do I get this
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: shade or that shade? And Robert will text me back
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: like this is your shade? Yeah, this is not your shade.
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: Don't do that one.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: How do you determine what your shade is?
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: They do train us a lot at work, but it's
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: a lot of it's visual. And then like once you know,
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: like I've been looking at stuff for a long time,
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: so like I know where I fall in each range
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: because like essentially you know, like in shoes where like
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: you're like I could fit in this size all the
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: way up to this side. Oh absolutely, and you like
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: know which brand is which and so on and so forth.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: It's kind of like that scale in like foundations where
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: it's like I know that I'm in like usually the
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: first four colors, and I know that I'm un neutral,
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: so I'm usually around three or four neutral or whatever
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: variation of that sometimes it's a four hundred neutral or
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: it's a number four neutral or whatever the case is.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: And then I know where she falls as after me,
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: and she's leads neutral but slightly all of and.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: Then yeah, I don't know, I just know it.
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: Yes, it's amazing. It's very helpful.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And then sometimes with certain things where it's like, you.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Know, there's like only four colors in the powders and
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: I'm like, well you're number two. Then like cause you're
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: not three and you're not one.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: So there you go.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: If you know a little color theory, Yeah, yeah, you
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: can apply it here, which comes from.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Like the artistry from the beginning where it was a
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: lot of like shading highlight in terms of like graphite
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: on paper.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Like it's from painting and drawing, painting, drawing.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just the color wheel and so on.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Apply apply to the skin. So yeah, it really is
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: has its founding. Makeup has its foundations, and like the
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: classical visual arts.
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well people have also been like in their variation,
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: like painting their faces since the beginning of time.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the eyeliner, the lip like makeup is also not.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: Use they were.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: I hate that they were and now and like the
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: little like stars and like the stickers that the girlies
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: are putting on their faces, like they were doing that
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: in like the Victorian era, but to cover up like
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: small pops.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. Yeah.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: So like the beauty trend comes from a practical necessity
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: that's like tied to the historical moment, which I find
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: very fascinating. And how like what we consider like a
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: beautiful makeup look today is so different than a beautiful
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: makeup look at any other time period, or like powdering
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: their face is white, you know, and then like super
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: super pigmented blush, yeah exactly, and that's like that.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Was the height of beauty, the standard, Yeah exactly. It
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: is really interesting, especially because well, like I said about
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: the pants, where like things go the pendulum swings the
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: other way because you know, they want you to buy stuff.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: But also like our idea and our vision of like
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: what is beautiful evolves, and I think nowadays I like
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: where it is. I feel like, like I know a
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: lot of people are like over the clean girl thing,
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: but there's something that's so like that I really like
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: about like, well, I'm wearing a lot less. It's just
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: it's just what I look like. And maybe maybe that's
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: why it's boring.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: I was going to say it.
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: I thought you didn't I like the cleaner because it
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: was boring. You came around to it.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But the thing is like everything's all jumbled together,
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: like you know, like people are still walking around with
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: like the sixties cut preest'size or like eighties blush everywhere.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: I think there's no definable beauty trend at.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: This I think it was. For a moment it was
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: like I don't know if you hear my stomach.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: I heard it, but I don't know, can you hear
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: it listener?
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: For a while it was like wet skin? Yes, really
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: are doing? Are you doing?
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: I read somewhere that like humans like the look of
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: like that sweaty look, and that's why it's so attractive
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: to us because.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: It's like you're working, you're laboring, you're in labor.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they used to say that, like that's what blush was.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: It was like the flush of like after you've had sex.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: And what why people find it attractive?
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: The post coitus glow fascinating, isn't it? Yeah? You know
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: what when it comes to for me, like a minimalist
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: or like clean girl, look like I in my life
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: have embraced it because I had this moment where my mom,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: she is a teacher at a Catholic school, and so
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: they take a different photo every year. And she's been
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: at her Catholic school for like almost twenty years, so
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: she has twenty years worth of photos, and she like
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: at one point was like looking at some of them,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: not all of them, and she like pointed out to me, like,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: look how each year, like my face just changed just
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: a little bit, just a little bit, just a little bit,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: just a little bit, just a little bit. And like
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: in her own words, right, she's like the skin is
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: just like slightly less firm, Like the glow is just
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: slightly different.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: You know, that's what she's singh, that's what she's.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Seeing in her own vision of herself documented and she
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: and because she's a performer and has worn like stage
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: makeup and false slashes and the hair like to perform
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: for so many years, she always emphasized to me, like
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: it's for the performance because what you're performing with will
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: take away from what you naturally have. So you have
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: to protect your natural lashes, you have to protect your
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: natural skin, you have to protect your hair, and like
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: don't take away from what you naturally have for the performance,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: like give it its time, but like let your natural
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: beauty live because every year it's gonna fade just or
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: change ever so slightly, like this is her own wisdom,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: you know. And so for me, I like took that
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: and said like, well, yeah, it's and she always was
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: very very much with me, like don't cover it because
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: then you're gonna lose it and then you're gonna miss it.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: It's gonna go anyways, So like why are you taking
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: from it actively? Why are you actively covering it in
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: your everyday life. So when I think of like a
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: clean girl thing, like I feel like that was her version,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: but she never used that term. It was more like
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: embrace what you have when you have it, because when
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: it's gone, it's gone.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I love that.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: I think also, like you know, like how in the twenties,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: like not everybody was a flapper.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, it's always been that.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Like there's definitely a large group of people that like
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: don't subscribe to like weary makeup ever at all, like
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: throughout time period, right, And I guess the clean girl
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: thing is like a repackaged makeup thing to get you
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: to buy stuff.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: It's still makes up.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: I think that the idea of you, like what you're
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: saying is like, well, this is just me, and like
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: I don't have to put a lot on. That's nice
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: to just like be able to like walk out your
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: front door and not not care so much about it
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: because I mean, I don't know who who you're worried about, I.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Guess, but ourselves. We are our greatest enemy.
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: Is literally well I think too.
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: There's so many like cultural things at play there, right,
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: Like my mom grew up in the era where it's
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: like it doesn't if you went to the grocery store,
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: it didn't matter if you were going to go buy
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: one little thing, like you shower at the Brenavas de Machiavas,
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: you dress nice, and you would be on your way
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: like none of this like running out in ath leisure
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: wear and your workout clothes like she's and she still
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: does it right. And so for my mom there's just
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: like and I think her era there's so much of
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: like pride and like how like you can be quote
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: like presentable or like put yourself together. And my mom
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: still says this about her own mother, like she will
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: like in admiration.
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: Be Like my mom used.
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: To wear these like beautiful suits and we would walk
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: down the street and like all the men would just
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: like turn and look at her, and I just thought
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: she was so beautiful and like she always had her
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: hair done.
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: She was like and so that was her.
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: I feel like for my beauty lesson, it was like
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: you have to leave the hose like put right. And
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: I've like learned to like take what works and leave
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: what doesn't and like make it my own. But I
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: think that that's also like another way, like women have
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: also used like different.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: Beauty tools to like feel better.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: Power or yes, Like.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what's interesting too is now at leisure can be
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: so high end. You're at leisure. It can cost you
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: five hundred dollars.
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah you're still in sweats, but you're.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Still in sweats. But it's it's it's it's brand name.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: I think there's nothing wrong with either path.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: I think that like it would just be nice to
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: like alleviate the expectation of that and being like, I,
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: you know what I do want to be presentable, Like
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: when I want to maybe I'll put more effort.
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: That is what I do.
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: I'm like, Mom, I'm running to the store and my
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: workout clothes. It is what it is, you know, And
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: I'm like, can you hurry up? Like you're going to
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: go by like chicken, like you know when you're taking
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: forever because you're getting ready and I respect it.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: But I'm like, girl, yeah, because I think also today,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: like you just said, Robert, like I work out, like
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: looking like you work out and like you go to
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: the gym and shop at Arawan is a status symbol
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: as it's a way of looking like, look at my calves,
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: look at my calves and veryle yeah, you know, and
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's going back to the idea that with
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: the times, like style and beauty standards change and what's
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: important to others and to us like evolved.
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: Absolutely yeah, yeah, oh my, I love that.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: I like guys in these Nike socks.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: You look so good, Robert, And look at your super
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: clean sneakers.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. I've been really into I just bought them.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: I've been really into like the men's fashion shows lately,
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: and like ussle, short shorts are back. Short shorts are in,
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: thank you, not just the gay people wearing them. You'll
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: see the ciss gender straight guys wearing short shorts. Yeah, everywhere,
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: And I ye, butter yellows out, Butter yellows out.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be what is tell us? Red purple and
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: red for fall, like I don't know, like a plum.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: I believe like a plum and like a vibrant red.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: That's like gonna be the new thing.
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: Red is always in In our opinion, red is a neutral.
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: Red is a neutral, as is leopard. I wore this
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: in your honor is a new Leopard is a neutral.
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: And denim is a neutral too.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Of course, Well, Robert, this has been so fabulous is that?
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: It Isn't that? No, I mean, it's this has been lovely.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: It's it has been a long time coming. I mean,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: if you ever thought we were fabulous and beautiful as Lok,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: like in our shoots, in our videos, in our campaigns historically, like,
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: it's very likely Robert was there putting the looks together,
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: the hair, the makeup, setting the tone, creating vibes, giving
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: us confident. And so I'm just like so thrilled that
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: you were here with us today on Mike.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I'm so glad. I'm so happy to
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: be here.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: I've been wanting to do this for a well, and
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: it does feel like we're just talking to each other.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: I always say when people, people always say stuff like, oh,
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: the makeup is so good or the campaign is so good,
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: and I always say, you guys do make it really easy, like.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: Like so beautiful.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: It's you know, I know your face is now too,
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: so that makes it a lot easier.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, I'm like, there's a mala. Look, there's
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: a deal a little.
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: It's true.
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I do want to I do want to tell
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: the story of like the Spotify campaign before we leave.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: That was because our Times Square moment.
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: Our Time Square moment. Robert did our makeup. He did
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: a beautiful purple cut crease.
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: On me, and I think it was green on you.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: You asked me for big and colorful?
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: What we asked for big and colorful? I don't remember
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: what we asked for. They said, come as yourselves. They
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: come as yourselves.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: You know you're jumping.
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: That's basically the story story wine.
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: You guys sent me a mood board. Probably you guys
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: send mood boards.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: And I think you guys, I don't remember the words
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: you used, but you did us for like bright, colorful, big,
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: makeup like ultra glam.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, you were wearing pinks.
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: Yes, you're wearing pinks.
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: So you did like a really beautiful purple no blue.
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: Oh, you did a blue cut crease on me.
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: Yes, it was like colorful like blue and purple. And
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: you had.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Because I was wearing these bright green drops green, so
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: I was wearing like a pink like a matching sat
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: and then you gave me a green cut crease put there.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Yes, So I did like a lot of makeup and
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: we did a cut crease and we did like big everything,
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: like like full on, like you know the rules of
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: like you just do eyes and the natural lip, or
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: you just do bright lip and natural eyes.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: No, we did everything.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Yes, And then I just was following the prompt what
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: you gave me, what the moon board was, and then
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: I like, I literally finished, you guys are about to leave,
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: and I was like, I think I asked you guys,
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: like what did they ask you guys to come as?
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: Like what did they tell you?
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: And then that's when you told me that they were like, oh,
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: they said to come as ourselves And I was like, what.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Was that.
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: Told me different?
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: Look, just come as yourself.
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: That would have been boring.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I.
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: Naturally have a blue cut creeze. What are you talking about?
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah? And then to be fair, you guys are really glamorous.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: So you yeah, it looked great.
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: It looked me great.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: It photographs so well, it was beautiful on our times
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: for Billboard. It was huge, it was fabulous.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a great moment and that was fun.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: We got ready at my house.
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: And your sister went and took photos for us because
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: we couldn't.
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: In sure.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: And then she went to Times Square and took photos.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: And if you ask the New Yorker to go to
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: Time Square, they will tell you no.
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: But she went, she went for it.
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: She bought the photo.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: That was a beautiful time.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: It's a fabulous time. So, Robert, if you could now
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, if there was a look that you
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: would love to see us try, what would it be?
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: Girls, there's so many feel like I don't know something
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: something different. I feel like I have I have some ideas.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: I want to give it away.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: Give me one, give me one, like just one little one.
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: What do I mean?
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: Did like like a bleached brows?
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: Like to say that no eyebrow?
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know I've considered it like a whoopie, like
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: a whoopy old situation.
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: When you had your pixie, you sent me photos of
• 52:53
  Speaker 5: a woman who had a pixie and she had bleached brows,
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: and you were thinking about it.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that trans kind of over, but there's no I
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: don't care.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: There's no trends anymore.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: I also I thought about you, remember when I painted
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: you purple, Like I thought like, if like you were
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: blue and you were teel or something like like, that
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: would be fun paintings.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: If we do something very high fashion and avant garde.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: Like HALLOWEENI yeah, okay, I was not expecting these, but
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: You're giving us things to play with, and you're.
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: Like, I'm not doing that.
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: Like I'm not bleaching my brother.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: I might not even, but I might. I might do
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: like a lighter shade I'm dead like I would do
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: like he.
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: Doesn't mean really bleach, he means look.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah.
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: I know he doesn't mean bleach that I could play with. Yeah,
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: it's like concealer that I could exactly.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: Okay, Our next shoot, Robert our next shoot, I love.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll be like bald aliens.
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: With bleached eyebrows. And I love that.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: Well, this has been fabulous, Robert, thank you so much
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: for joining.
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: Thank you for joining. You're welcome anytime.
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: I'll be back.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: Subscribe the whole thing and follow Robert. Where can people
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: follow you and hire you for your makeup, looks and services?
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: I got locked out of that other Instagram. I just
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: have my main Instagram. It's going to be Robert Carlos
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: and yeah, that's all.
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: That's all I do. I don't even post.
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: No more because you're DMU for if they want to
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: be yes.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: Message me. Oh I'm always here.
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: Fabulous, amazing. We love you, we love you.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: I love you, we love you, we love you.
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: All right, thank you for listening to another Capital Radio.
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: We'll catch you next time.
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