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- 0:31Speaker 1: Hello, live from not quite Austin, Texas, but near Austin, Texas.
- 0:37Speaker 1: where the Ohio State Buckeyes have landed or about to
- 0:40Speaker 1: land at the airport, and they're going to be here
- 0:42Speaker 1: at their team hotel in roughly 15 to 30 minutes,
- 0:47Speaker 1: the Lord be a willing and the traffic permit. I'm
- 0:50Speaker 1: Tom Moore of Buckeye Insiders, joined by Chuck Mulledy, Tony Gerderman.
- 0:54Speaker 1: We got a chance to go over. I know everyone's
- 0:56Speaker 1: immediate question is going to be, how hot is it?
- 0:58Speaker 1: Which feels like the start of a joke, but it's
- 1:01Speaker 1: not a joke. We were over at the stadium earlier, Chuck,
- 1:05Speaker 1: and walking around on the turf there, It's cooled off
- 1:08Speaker 1: a lot since then because this rain has come, but
- 1:11Speaker 1: it was toasty down on the field at DKR today.
- 1:15Speaker 2: When we were walking around the stadium, it was hot.
- 1:18Speaker 3: We got down on the field, and after being on
- 1:20Speaker 3: the field for about 10, 15 minutes, I was sweating
- 1:24Speaker 3: through my shirt.
- 1:25Speaker 2: I'm not an easy sweater, so it was very, very hot.
- 1:28Speaker 2: We'll put it that way.
- 1:30Speaker 4: Tony, your thoughts?
- 1:31Speaker 2: I tried to stay undercover. You guys are out on
- 1:33Speaker 2: the field. I got some pictures, and it's enough for me.
- 1:37Speaker 2: I'm going to go find some shade. But it's nice now.
- 1:40Speaker 2: It feels like it's, you know, my watch still says
- 1:42Speaker 2: it's 96, but there's no way. It's dropped probably a
- 1:44Speaker 2: good 10 degrees. Almost comfortable.
- 1:47Speaker 4: Almost comfortable.
- 1:48Speaker 2: Now the heat is going to start bubbling up that humidity.
- 1:50Speaker 2: And we'll see how comfortable it is in 20 minutes.
- 1:53Speaker 1: And we were there this afternoon, sort of early afternoon time.
- 1:57Speaker 1: It's going to get hotter as the game gets closer.
- 1:59Speaker 1: But then, obviously, as the sun sets, the sun sets
- 2:02Speaker 1: about an hour into the game tomorrow night.
- 2:04Speaker 4: Then it'll start cooling off again.
- 2:06Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:06Speaker 1: We'll see how toasty it really is at DKR. It
- 2:10Speaker 1: is not what it was last week, though. Last week,
- 2:13Speaker 1: it was in the hundreds. Tomorrow, it's supposed to be
- 2:15Speaker 1: in the sort of high 90s. It's not going to
- 2:17Speaker 1: be 150 degrees on the field, probably.
- 2:20Speaker 4: So we'll see that.
- 2:21Speaker 2: 138 tops.
- 2:23Speaker 1: Yeah, not a degree over 135. So, yeah, we'll see
- 2:28Speaker 1: how that goes. But, you know, the weather's only a
- 2:30Speaker 1: small portion of the game story this week. It's... There's
- 2:34Speaker 1: so many elements of this game, Chuck, that I think
- 2:37Speaker 1: we can start with. But I think I want to
- 2:39Speaker 1: start with the Ohio State offensive line because I think,
- 2:43Speaker 1: to me, how many points they score and whether they
- 2:46Speaker 1: can win this game comes an awful lot down to
- 2:49Speaker 1: how much time does Julian Zane have?
- 2:51Speaker 2: No doubt about that.
- 2:53Speaker 3: And not just that, but how does he react to
- 2:55Speaker 3: pressure when he hits it? Last year, towards the end
- 2:58Speaker 3: of the year, it wasn't so great. We know that
- 3:00Speaker 3: he's worked on that a lot. potentially that X factor
- 3:03Speaker 3: coming out, getting out scrambling. And we saw last week
- 3:06Speaker 3: with his first Russian touchdown, there was no hesitation. He
- 3:10Speaker 3: was ready to go out and get it. We know
- 3:12Speaker 3: we'll see Arch do that on the other side. If
- 3:14Speaker 3: we see Julian do that when pressure comes, that'd be
- 3:17Speaker 3: a great thing. But when we look at the games
- 3:19Speaker 3: last year where the offensive line didn't do so hot,
- 3:22Speaker 3: they allowed about 10 pressures against Penn State, Wisconsin, and then,
- 3:26Speaker 3: you know, further on against the better teams, But if
- 3:29Speaker 3: they can keep it under about 10 pressures, three sacks,
- 3:33Speaker 3: I mean, I think they can do some real damage
- 3:36Speaker 3: on the offensive side of the ball.
- 3:38Speaker 2: I'm wondering if this is going to be, if there
- 3:39Speaker 2: is a bunch of pressure, and I wrote this, I think,
- 3:42Speaker 2: on the message board or somewhere today, this could be
- 3:45Speaker 2: Julian Sands' C.J. Stroud against Georgia game, where he's making
- 3:49Speaker 2: plays with his legs and still finding people downfield, and
- 3:52Speaker 2: he can show, like, why doesn't he run more? And
- 3:54Speaker 2: they said all that about C.J. Stroud as well, and
- 3:56Speaker 2: then he finally does it. like opens up the entire
- 3:59Speaker 2: offense and just like, where was this the other years?
- 4:02Speaker 2: And I think I'm not saying he's going to be
- 4:04Speaker 2: running like that, but he's going to have the opportunity
- 4:06Speaker 2: to make plays after things break down. And I'll be
- 4:09Speaker 2: interested to see how he does, because it's not something
- 4:11Speaker 2: that he's had to do. And how does he do
- 4:13Speaker 2: off schedule? Cause he's going to be off schedule at times.
- 4:17Speaker 4: Absolutely.
- 4:17Speaker 1: And then the other half of the question with the
- 4:19Speaker 1: offensive line is how does everyone else run? Cause they,
- 4:22Speaker 1: in the first half last week against ball state and
- 4:24Speaker 1: ball state is not a good team. really struggled to
- 4:27Speaker 1: run the ball almost at all. And it felt like
- 4:29Speaker 1: they sort of got some things on track in the
- 4:31Speaker 1: second half. And I did a show with our, one
- 4:33Speaker 1: of our scheme guys, Ross Fulton earlier in the week,
- 4:34Speaker 1: talking about some of the whys behind that. It involved
- 4:37Speaker 1: zone tracks and that kind of stuff that is worth
- 4:39Speaker 1: your time. If you've not watched that one, but also
- 4:41Speaker 1: I do always kind of wonder when you're playing a
- 4:43Speaker 1: really overmatched team on a hot day, how much of
- 4:46Speaker 1: that is also you sort of wear them down because
- 4:48Speaker 1: they don't have the second teamers and the third teamers
- 4:50Speaker 1: that they can kind.
- 4:51Speaker 4: Of roll in there. So, What to you, Chuck, is
- 4:55Speaker 4: a winning number?
- 4:56Speaker 1: Assuming they do give up three sacks, sort of factor
- 4:59Speaker 1: that into their yards per carry, what's a winning number
- 5:02Speaker 1: for Ohio State? If Ohio State runs for X yards
- 5:05Speaker 1: per carry, obviously if they run for nine yards per carry,
- 5:06Speaker 1: they're going to win the game.
- 5:07Speaker 4: But how low does that.
- 5:08Speaker 1: Number go where you still go, you're feeling pretty good
- 5:11Speaker 1: about Ohio State's chances?
- 5:12Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, four and a half, five yards a
- 5:15Speaker 3: carry would be plenty to get it done. And if
- 5:17Speaker 3: they can get a total of 100, well, that's something
- 5:19Speaker 3: they haven't done in two previous wins against Texas.
- 5:21Speaker 2: And that's a pretty low bar.
- 5:23Speaker 5: It doesn't feel– you pop off one or two explosives,
- 5:28Speaker 5: and those explosives, not just the 10-15 version, but we
- 5:32Speaker 5: can get those out for 30-35 like they've been working on,
- 5:35Speaker 5: like we saw Bowie and Jacoby do last week.
- 5:38Speaker 4: And all of a sudden, you're well over that 100-yard mark.
- 5:41Speaker 3: You're well over five yards of carry, like last week
- 5:44Speaker 3: with a really poor first-half average. They end up at 6.8
- 5:47Speaker 3: yards of carry when it's all said and done by
- 5:49Speaker 3: busting a couple.
- 5:50Speaker 2: I'm interested to see how many yards or how many
- 5:53Speaker 2: carries go for like two or fewer yards. A third
- 5:56Speaker 2: of their carries went for two or fewer yards last
- 5:58Speaker 2: week against Ball State. You would expect, I'm not expecting
- 6:01Speaker 2: that number to be vastly improved in terms of those
- 6:05Speaker 2: where you get stopped towards the line of scrimmage, but
- 6:07Speaker 2: I think you just need more eight to 12 as
- 6:10Speaker 2: well to punch up those numbers and really get the
- 6:14Speaker 2: past the line of scrimmage. And then somebody brings you down,
- 6:17Speaker 2: but staying on schedule as much as you can and
- 6:20Speaker 2: going beyond the schedule moving the chains if they can
- 6:22Speaker 2: do that on first and second down a few times
- 6:25Speaker 2: and just reset things that way you're not battling from
- 6:27Speaker 2: behind on second and nine after one yard game and
- 6:30Speaker 2: now it's like well and then you take a sack
- 6:32Speaker 2: and the drive is over on third and long or
- 6:34Speaker 2: whatever so it's be interesting to see how they try
- 6:36Speaker 2: to avoid that and stay ahead of the chains.
- 6:38Speaker 1: One of the real x factors on offense and especially
- 6:40Speaker 1: in the ground game to me and this might not
- 6:42Speaker 1: just be the ground game but the ground game and
- 6:44Speaker 1: maybe the short to intermediate passing game is legend bay
- 6:47Speaker 1: and it's We have now seen him. You have seen
- 6:51Speaker 1: what was promised. You have seen him sort of deliver
- 6:53Speaker 1: on that last week. But it still was like he
- 6:57Speaker 1: was on the field for 10 plays. He touched the
- 6:59Speaker 1: ball on eight of them. Like, obviously, that is not
- 7:01Speaker 1: representative of what's going to happen against Texas. So the
- 7:03Speaker 1: question is, if they want to get him eight, you know,
- 7:05Speaker 1: do they want to get him eight touches and he's
- 7:07Speaker 1: got to play 25 snaps? Or do they want to
- 7:09Speaker 1: get him 10 snaps and that means he's only going
- 7:11Speaker 1: to have three touches? What's your expectation for how they're
- 7:15Speaker 1: going to, how and how much they're going to try.
- 7:17Speaker 2: And use him on Saturday?
- 7:18Speaker 3: So I think that they're going to try to keep
- 7:20Speaker 3: the touches close to eight, but that's going to mean,
- 7:23Speaker 3: you know, 15 to 20 snaps, I think is what
- 7:27Speaker 3: we're going to see. An increased snap volume, but maybe
- 7:30Speaker 3: a couple more decoy plays with Legend because, you know,
- 7:34Speaker 3: eight out of 10 is not going to work or
- 7:36Speaker 3: he's going to get totally shut down. But I think
- 7:38Speaker 3: in a game like this, they're really looking for those
- 7:41Speaker 3: explosive plays, being on the road. And a guy like
- 7:44Speaker 3: that just gives you one of the best shots on
- 7:45Speaker 3: the team. And when you add him to the attention
- 7:49Speaker 3: that he can bring now after seeing him on film
- 7:51Speaker 3: with Jeremiah, you put the defense in some turmoil there
- 7:55Speaker 3: as to what they're going to do and how they're
- 7:56Speaker 3: going to go about that. And I think that's just really,
- 7:59Speaker 3: really valuable. They can trust him there. We'll talk about
- 8:02Speaker 3: kick returns.
- 8:02Speaker 2: Who knows? But they think they can trust him. I'm
- 8:05Speaker 2: ready to see a lot of them on the field. Well,
- 8:07Speaker 2: and if you're saying 15 to 20 snaps, which I
- 8:10Speaker 2: don't disagree with, you're talking a third of the game,
- 8:13Speaker 2: fourth of the game that he's going to be out there,
- 8:15Speaker 2: which is a lot for any of the running backs,
- 8:18Speaker 2: not named Bojax. So that's where we're talking to last night.
- 8:22Speaker 2: Do we see two running backs out there together so
- 8:24Speaker 2: that you can get some of that stuff? And then
- 8:27Speaker 2: you're removing Brandon Ennis or Devin McEwen to do that.
- 8:30Speaker 2: Cause I assume we're going to keep the tight ends
- 8:31Speaker 2: out there, but yeah, it, Even if it's not even
- 8:35Speaker 2: just a decoy, it's to occupy the defense because they
- 8:38Speaker 2: have to pay attention to him. And if they don't, great.
- 8:41Speaker 2: Then you've won that round if you get in the ball.
- 8:46Speaker 2: But it will be interesting to see how much they
- 8:47Speaker 2: target him in the passing game because it clearly worked.
- 8:50Speaker 2: And then play action off of him as well.
- 8:54Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and I think you could use him in
- 8:56Speaker 1: the passing game by having him be the guy who
- 8:59Speaker 1: you're doing play action with that's setting up other people.
- 9:02Speaker 1: I also look at him and, you know, Texas has,
- 9:06Speaker 1: Texas outside corners are solid and nickel solid. But if
- 9:11Speaker 1: you've got three running back, three wide receivers out there, okay,
- 9:13Speaker 1: that ties up the corners. You've probably got a safety
- 9:16Speaker 1: who's paying a little bit of attention to Jeremiah Smith.
- 9:18Speaker 1: So you're running out of defensive backs. So then you
- 9:20Speaker 1: probably are getting yourself into a situation where it's legend
- 9:23Speaker 1: Bay against the linebacker. I don't think that's going to
- 9:26Speaker 1: be a consistently winning formula for Texas.
- 9:28Speaker 2: No. In fact, you know, The whole secondary, they've got
- 9:33Speaker 2: a very good safety. Co-master comes over from Rutgers, and
- 9:37Speaker 2: he's the good corner. I really like the nickel. We
- 9:40Speaker 2: saw him last year, Grayson Middleton. Very good game. But, yeah,
- 9:45Speaker 2: like the linebackers, hey, if they want to use Raheem
- 9:49Speaker 2: Biles on Legend and take him out of the play, great.
- 9:52Speaker 2: But I don't think that's how they're going to use him.
- 9:54Speaker 2: I think they're going to attack with that guy. So,
- 9:56Speaker 2: um yeah i mean there could be some room for
- 9:59Speaker 2: legends who operate in any number of.
- 10:01Speaker 1: Ways and then the big question to me is okay
- 10:06Speaker 1: one of the big questions can they protect julian saying
- 10:08Speaker 1: one of the big questions how much they need to
- 10:09Speaker 1: run for seven catches 46 yards for jeremiah smith in
- 10:13Speaker 1: two previous games against texas you didn't do a game
- 10:16Speaker 1: We've seen Ohio State beat Texas without Jeremiah Smith. The defense,
- 10:21Speaker 1: I had many fewer questions about the defense last year
- 10:23Speaker 1: than I do this year on the Ohio State side.
- 10:25Speaker 1: So I think they're going to have to do more
- 10:27Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball. It feels to
- 10:29Speaker 1: me like you probably need Jeremiah Smith to do more
- 10:33Speaker 1: in this game than he has. Even 6-43 last year,
- 10:36Speaker 1: you've got to get more than that out of Jeremiah
- 10:38Speaker 1: Smith on Saturday night.
- 10:39Speaker 4: I totally agree.
- 10:40Speaker 2: I felt that all week.
- 10:42Speaker 3: Just going down into Texas at night, just the mean time,
- 10:46Speaker 3: You've got to have him hit some explosives. You've got
- 10:48Speaker 3: to have him involved in more than six receptions. I mean,
- 10:52Speaker 3: what he had at halftime last week was seven, right?
- 10:55Speaker 2: For 151? Yeah.
- 10:56Speaker 3: And the connection between he and Julie and the chemistry
- 10:59Speaker 3: just felt different than last year. And it's always been good, right?
- 11:03Speaker 3: But it just felt different. And I do think that
- 11:05Speaker 3: you're going to see quite a bit more. I think
- 11:08Speaker 3: the biggest line is five and a half receptions for
- 11:11Speaker 3: Jeremiah Smith. That seems ridiculous to me.
- 11:13Speaker 2: Way over.
- 11:14Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean.
- 11:16Speaker 2: how much are they going to essentially force him to
- 11:18Speaker 2: ball and not force it in a bad way, but
- 11:20Speaker 2: design things for him. Like this is for him, like
- 11:23Speaker 2: legend Bay last week, those plays were for him. This
- 11:26Speaker 2: play is for Jeremiah.
- 11:27Speaker 4: Sure.
- 11:27Speaker 2: There's a progression, but the first read is Jeremiah, you know,
- 11:31Speaker 2: most of the time it's some of those plays that
- 11:34Speaker 2: they're designing for him all of the time. But yeah,
- 11:36Speaker 2: it's almost like you can't use them too much, but
- 11:40Speaker 2: what Julian saying can do is focus on him too much.
- 11:42Speaker 2: If that's not part of the actual plan.
- 11:45Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 11:46Speaker 1: Um, It seems to me like you have an opportunity
- 11:49Speaker 1: there to, he should, I always feel like you can
- 11:53Speaker 1: oversimplify things and say, Jeremiah should be the first to
- 11:55Speaker 1: read the passing game every single time, which I understand
- 11:59Speaker 1: why you can't do that. But also, you feel like
- 12:04Speaker 1: the way he's talked about Arthur Smith talking about how
- 12:06Speaker 1: he wants to use him, and the way that I
- 12:08Speaker 1: think Arthur Smith has come up with ways to use
- 12:11Speaker 1: his talent in the NFL is, I get the sense
- 12:15Speaker 1: that getting him involved early, getting him involved in lots
- 12:19Speaker 1: of different ways. I go back to the Rose Bowl
- 12:21Speaker 1: against Oregon, where the first touchdown, I think probably his
- 12:25Speaker 1: first touch of the game, was also his first touchdown
- 12:27Speaker 1: of the game. And it was, he just ran kind
- 12:29Speaker 1: of behind the line of scrimmage. It was kind of
- 12:30Speaker 1: one of those little touch passes. And then you make
- 12:33Speaker 1: a couple guys miss, and bing, bang, boom, six points.
- 12:36Speaker 1: And you can't take away a guy behind the line
- 12:39Speaker 1: of scrimmage. You can take away what he does after that,
- 12:41Speaker 1: if you can get him down off the ground. But
- 12:42Speaker 1: you can't... If you're coming, you know, either you have
- 12:46Speaker 1: major offensive line problems or you're really off sides if
- 12:48Speaker 1: you're taking away a guy on a jet sweep. So, yeah,
- 12:51Speaker 1: I think they're going to try and come up with
- 12:53Speaker 1: new and creative ways to get him the ball. Just
- 12:55Speaker 1: to give everyone a quick update, we are waiting on
- 12:57Speaker 1: the team arrival. Generally, the first sign of that is
- 13:01Speaker 1: we will hear police sirens, which is the police escort
- 13:03Speaker 1: with the buses coming from the airport. We're on the
- 13:06Speaker 1: north side of Austin. The airport is on the south
- 13:09Speaker 1: side of Austin. We have not seen an update yet
- 13:11Speaker 1: on exactly when they landed.
- 13:12Speaker 2: Yeah, not heard anything.
- 13:14Speaker 1: They were planning to get to the hotel around 6.45 p.m.
- 13:18Speaker 1: Central Time to 7 p.m.
- 13:21Speaker 4: Central Time. So it could be any time now. We
- 13:24Speaker 4: are sort of standing by.
- 13:25Speaker 1: As soon as that happens, as soon as they show up,
- 13:27Speaker 1: we'll have Chuck run over, get his camera, get set
- 13:30Speaker 1: up to give you guys a shot and to see
- 13:32Speaker 1: everyone walking in. Tony will have his camera. He'll go
- 13:35Speaker 1: get the interview with Brian Day. So that is our
- 13:38Speaker 1: game plan. Now you guys are all in the loop.
- 13:40Speaker 1: Insiders on three, ready, break.
- 13:42Speaker 2: That is the plan.
- 13:43Speaker 4: That's the plan, yes. How will the plan go?
- 13:45Speaker 1: Well, it started pouring five minutes before we were planning
- 13:48Speaker 1: to start the show. So, yeah, football season is generally
- 13:53Speaker 1: a have a couple audibles ready time of year, especially
- 13:57Speaker 1: these kind of events. So let's talk a little bit
- 13:59Speaker 1: about the other side of the ball because we've talked
- 14:01Speaker 1: a lot about the Ohio State offense. The Ohio State defense,
- 14:04Speaker 1: there's a lot of new faces. Eight starters gone from
- 14:06Speaker 1: last year's team. And this is a pretty good Texas offense.
- 14:10Speaker 1: I think Ohio State fans, the last time they saw
- 14:12Speaker 1: Arch Manning play against their team, he looked like a
- 14:14Speaker 1: very overwhelmed first-time starter.
- 14:17Speaker 4: And guess what? He was a very overwhelmed first-time starter.
- 14:20Speaker 4: Now you have a year of film of what Matt.
- 14:22Speaker 1: Patricia is trying to do with this defense. Now Arch
- 14:24Speaker 1: Manning has a year of experience under his belt. Juck,
- 14:27Speaker 1: I think it is very important for Ohio State fans
- 14:29Speaker 1: to not go, the guy that I saw in Ohio Stadium, yep,
- 14:32Speaker 1: that's going to be exactly who they see on Saturday
- 14:35Speaker 1: night in DKR, and they'll be absolutely fine.
- 14:37Speaker 4: No concern.
- 14:38Speaker 3: Yeah, Arch was not just bad that game, but he
- 14:41Speaker 3: was bad maybe four or five games after that. It
- 14:44Speaker 3: kind of became a bit of the butt of the joke,
- 14:47Speaker 3: but things really changed in the latter half of the season.
- 14:51Speaker 3: He obviously came around and got way better in all
- 14:53Speaker 3: the things that he always does. everybody thought he was
- 14:55Speaker 3: going to be because of the pedigree, because of the
- 14:57Speaker 3: physical tools, because of the way he's wired, and now
- 15:00Speaker 3: because he's in his fourth year in the program, you know,
- 15:03Speaker 3: it's all coming together.
- 15:04Speaker 2: So we're talking about a guy who is going.
- 15:07Speaker 3: To be a seasoned vet coming out here. This is
- 15:09Speaker 3: his third year starting games, right? Not third year as
- 15:12Speaker 3: a starter, but starting games his second year. And, you know,
- 15:16Speaker 3: I think he's definitely going to be a handful, and
- 15:19Speaker 3: they're going to have to get some heat on him
- 15:21Speaker 3: for sure. I wonder if this is– more of a
- 15:24Speaker 3: skilled offense than a very good offense at this point.
- 15:27Speaker 3: Because I think the pieces are really good, but the
- 15:30Speaker 3: running game struggled against Texas State. We'll see what the
- 15:34Speaker 3: connection looks like with Cam Coleman and Ryan Wingo and Arch,
- 15:38Speaker 3: because they looked pretty good that first game, but I
- 15:41Speaker 3: wouldn't see the entirety of it.
- 15:42Speaker 2: Because if they're not able to run the ball, then
- 15:44Speaker 2: that makes stopping the pass a little bit easier. And
- 15:47Speaker 2: I'm wondering if this, because I've been told people tell
- 15:48Speaker 2: me this is the most talented team in the nation,
- 15:50Speaker 2: and it may be. What is it? you know, is
- 15:53Speaker 2: the sum as good as the parks?
- 15:56Speaker 1: Well, and part of the question with the offense, because
- 15:59Speaker 1: I think I believe much more in the Texas offense
- 16:01Speaker 1: than I do in the defense. I think I look
- 16:03Speaker 1: at Ohio State and Texas as very, very similar teams
- 16:07Speaker 1: this year, where I like the offense better than the defense,
- 16:10Speaker 1: but I have some questions about the offensive line. And
- 16:12Speaker 1: when you have questions about the offensive line, that can
- 16:14Speaker 1: sort of be a little bit of a parking brake
- 16:16Speaker 1: that you're driving the offense with. And, you know, at
- 16:19Speaker 1: Ohio State, there were questions about the tackles last week.
- 16:22Speaker 1: with Texas, there's still sort of a positional battle at
- 16:25Speaker 1: left guard for them. And, and Steve Sartesian said earlier
- 16:28Speaker 1: in the week, they're probably going to play two guys
- 16:30Speaker 1: at left guard and it's, you know, it's not to
- 16:32Speaker 1: avoid the heat.
- 16:33Speaker 4: It's, I don't think they know which the better option
- 16:34Speaker 4: is there.
- 16:35Speaker 1: And it's not, you know, you watch them run the
- 16:37Speaker 1: ball last week, Holly and Smothers popped a what 40
- 16:39Speaker 1: yard or something like that at his first carry of
- 16:41Speaker 1: the game. And then after that, it was just kind of,
- 16:43Speaker 1: I think they had 10 carries for no gain or
- 16:45Speaker 1: negative yardage out of 30 or 35 carries, something like that. That's,
- 16:50Speaker 1: that's like officially capital a capital P a problem. And
- 16:55Speaker 1: it certainly had questions about the Ohio state run game
- 16:57Speaker 1: as well. But I look at these two teams, you know, Okay.
- 17:04Speaker 1: Not a, not a police, not a police siren.
- 17:09Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 17:10Speaker 1: To me, that's another great question is can Texas run
- 17:14Speaker 1: the ball? Cause if Texas can run the ball, if
- 17:15Speaker 1: Texas can, be multiple on offense and not get one-dimensional
- 17:20Speaker 1: like they have the last couple of years, that feels
- 17:22Speaker 1: like that would make an enormous difference in what the
- 17:24Speaker 1: ceiling for their offense could be Saturday.
- 17:26Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going over the Ohio State rushing numbers,
- 17:30Speaker 3: pardon me, in their yards per carry, which ended up
- 17:32Speaker 3: being 6.8.
- 17:34Speaker 2: And everybody was saying, well, that's because they busted a
- 17:36Speaker 2: couple of explosives.
- 17:37Speaker 4: Okay, let's go over the rest of the country.
- 17:39Speaker 3: And Ohio State, amongst the top-tier teams that didn't play
- 17:42Speaker 3: an FCS opponent, was number one.
- 17:45Speaker 2: And I looked at Texas.
- 17:47Speaker 3: Relique Brown had 10 rushes for 13 yards and then
- 17:52Speaker 3: one 21-yarder. And then you had Hollywood Smothers with his 45-yarder.
- 17:55Speaker 3: Without that, he was under three yards per carry. So
- 17:58Speaker 3: they got.
- 17:59Speaker 7: Bottled up by Texas State, really bottled up, hit a
- 18:01Speaker 7: couple of explosives.
- 18:02Speaker 4: Hollywood was right at the beginning of the game and
- 18:05Speaker 4: kind of just caught them off guard.
- 18:07Speaker 3: You know, they're going to be relying on explosives here
- 18:10Speaker 3: because I don't think they're going to consistently pick up
- 18:12Speaker 3: three and four yards a chunk.
- 18:13Speaker 2: But they've got two guys that can do that. They
- 18:16Speaker 2: can go at any point. So this is where the
- 18:19Speaker 2: tackling comes in. We don't know how well this team,
- 18:21Speaker 2: the Buckeyes, tackle yet. Certainly not as good as last year.
- 18:24Speaker 2: They may be very good, but they won't be as
- 18:26Speaker 2: good as last year. So you still have the last
- 18:28Speaker 2: line of defense with Jalen McClain. But the first line
- 18:30Speaker 2: of defense, or the second line of defense with Earl Little,
- 18:34Speaker 2: Caleb Downs shut a lot of stuff down. Can Earl
- 18:37Speaker 2: Little do that? Can Peyton Pierce do some of what?
- 18:41Speaker 2: Sonny Stiles did. I'm not asking him for no missed
- 18:44Speaker 2: tackles until the playoffs. But just being that consistent guy
- 18:47Speaker 2: that once he touches somebody, they're done. And not just
- 18:52Speaker 2: tackling them, but keeping them from picking up two or
- 18:54Speaker 2: three yards after contact. Because Sonny was in the right
- 18:57Speaker 2: place an awful lot. And Peyton Pierce knows where to be.
- 19:01Speaker 2: It's just a matter of will he get there? Will
- 19:02Speaker 2: he bring the guy down? Because if you don't, then
- 19:05Speaker 2: that guy can go the distance.
- 19:06Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 19:07Speaker 1: Yeah, Texas has some potential home run hitters, and Ohio
- 19:10Speaker 1: State's tackling last week was certainly a concern. Okay, team
- 19:14Speaker 1: just landed. All right, so they're running a little late.
- 19:16Speaker 1: So great news, friends. You're going to get a little
- 19:18Speaker 1: bit of extra live show today if they just landed.
- 19:21Speaker 1: They are running a little bit late because, again, the
- 19:24Speaker 1: airport is on the other side of town.
- 19:25Speaker 4: So now we're probably looking at about 30 minutes, give
- 19:27Speaker 4: or take.
- 19:28Speaker 2: It's starting to get a little warmer.
- 19:29Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah.
- 19:30Speaker 4: That's all right. It's not raining, he said, jinxingly. Said
- 19:33Speaker 4: that out loud, didn't I? Yeah. The other piece of
- 19:37Speaker 4: the Texas offense.
- 19:39Speaker 1: The running game was inconsistent last week, but they hit
- 19:42Speaker 1: some big plays. The passing game, they had Brian Wingo
- 19:46Speaker 1: last year. The Ohio State fans have seen him. from
- 19:50Speaker 1: the Cotton Bowl two years ago, the game in Ohio
- 19:52Speaker 1: Stadium last year, and then now obviously this year.
- 19:55Speaker 4: But they also added Cam Coleman. And Cam Coleman is–
- 19:58Speaker 4: Brian Wingo is fast. Cam Coleman has the catch radius.
- 20:02Speaker 1: He feels like he's someone who could present kind of
- 20:05Speaker 1: a– between the two outside corners for Ohio State, I think, Chuck,
- 20:08Speaker 1: they're going to present some– I don't know if it's
- 20:11Speaker 1: matchup issues, but, man, it's going to be must-see TV.
- 20:14Speaker 4: Absolutely.
- 20:15Speaker 2: This right here is something.
- 20:16Speaker 3: Kim Coleman was wasting away over on the Auburn roster,
- 20:21Speaker 3: and it was kind of like out of sight, out
- 20:23Speaker 3: of mind.
- 20:23Speaker 2: But this is going to be a story all year
- 20:26Speaker 2: at Texas.
- 20:26Speaker 4: This dude's the real deal.
- 20:29Speaker 3: Crazy ball skills when the ball's in the air, along
- 20:31Speaker 3: with that crazy catch radius. And I think rivals Jeremiah
- 20:35Speaker 3: in the amount of issues.
- 20:38Speaker 4: That he's going to present the average corner.
- 20:40Speaker 2: Because of his size because.
- 20:41Speaker 7: Of that catch radius the speed and are arching him
- 20:45Speaker 7: in good enough saying it really takes full advantage that
- 20:48Speaker 7: would be one thing you know when we saw last
- 20:51Speaker 7: week just Julian working with really both McEwen and uh
- 20:56Speaker 7: Jeremiah the way they were in such good sync that
- 20:59Speaker 7: rhythm I don't know that that arch is going to
- 21:02Speaker 7: be in the same kind of rhythm with either of
- 21:04Speaker 7: them because Wingo I mean he's not a great catcher
- 21:06Speaker 7: of the ball guy drops a lot of footballs can
- 21:08Speaker 7: a great guy with the ball after the catch.
- 21:11Speaker 3: But with Coleman, he could certainly hit some big ones.
- 21:15Speaker 3: It's going to be a heck of a battle. Devin
- 21:16Speaker 3: Sanchez called him.
- 21:17Speaker 4: Out by.
- 21:20Speaker 2: Name. He wanted it.
- 21:21Speaker 4: He wants it.
- 21:22Speaker 2: He knows he's getting it. And he gets to get
- 21:24Speaker 2: it coming back home.
- 21:25Speaker 3: So it's going to be one heck of a battle,
- 21:27Speaker 3: one that I'm sure we'll be talking about for the
- 21:28Speaker 3: rest of the year after it happens.
- 21:31Speaker 2: Well, and we've seen first-round corners in Ohio State history
- 21:34Speaker 2: have some rough games against certain opponents. Antoine Winfield against
- 21:38Speaker 2: Plaxico Burris, Nate Clements against Ron Johnson, Bradley Roby against
- 21:43Speaker 2: Jared Aberderis. There have been some games where guys just
- 21:47Speaker 2: went off and stuff happens. And it's just one of
- 21:49Speaker 2: those games. So here, like, yeah, you want to make
- 21:53Speaker 2: sure that that doesn't happen. And I'm fascinated to see,
- 21:57Speaker 2: this is going to be our first big time game
- 21:59Speaker 2: for Devin Sanchez to see what he does as that
- 22:02Speaker 2: lockdown guy. So this is also an opportunity for Jermaine
- 22:05Speaker 2: Matthews to shed some of the things that people will
- 22:07Speaker 2: say about him. But also, both of these guys are
- 22:10Speaker 2: going to give up catches.
- 22:11Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 22:11Speaker 2: Because the receivers are too good. Quarterback is too good.
- 22:14Speaker 2: There may be too much time to throw here and there. So, like,
- 22:17Speaker 2: that's just what happens. Sometimes heavyweights get punched in the face.
- 22:20Speaker 2: And I think you're going to see that from both teams. But, yeah,
- 22:22Speaker 2: I mean, I'm expecting both of those guys to give
- 22:25Speaker 2: up catches, not because they're bad, but because they're playing
- 22:27Speaker 2: NFL receivers and an NFL quarterback.
- 22:30Speaker 1: And Texas' third receiver, Emmitt Mosley, he's no slouch either.
- 22:34Speaker 1: And that could be an area where Texas... I know Ohio.
- 22:38Speaker 4: State coaches and within the program, they are super high
- 22:42Speaker 4: on Jay Timmons.
- 22:43Speaker 1: Still a true freshman. I think you certainly can move
- 22:47Speaker 1: your receivers around. Mosley tends to play in the slot,
- 22:49Speaker 1: but you can certainly move guys around to set up
- 22:51Speaker 1: different matchups.
- 22:52Speaker 4: I am expecting them to.
- 22:55Speaker 1: find out what the young man is made of on
- 22:57Speaker 1: Saturday night before they, you know, before they explore other things,
- 23:00Speaker 1: I think they're, they're going to probably take it, take
- 23:02Speaker 1: some shots at Jay Timmons and see if he is
- 23:04Speaker 1: everything that he has been built to be.
- 23:06Speaker 3: There's a big target on 25 as there should be.
- 23:10Speaker 8: Right.
- 23:11Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 23:12Speaker 3: It's a matter of how he responds, how often that
- 23:14Speaker 3: keeps coming towards him. And you know, there's chance, maybe
- 23:19Speaker 3: he makes a big mistake and gets himself out of position.
- 23:22Speaker 3: And that results in an explosive and, That happens a
- 23:25Speaker 3: couple of times. Where do you go from there? Not
- 23:27Speaker 3: really a conversation I think is needed because I think
- 23:30Speaker 3: he's going to handle it good enough because of his makeup.
- 23:33Speaker 4: Because of everything that we have seen from him so far.
- 23:35Speaker 3: And the praise that he gets from the individuals that
- 23:38Speaker 3: he gets that praise from, it's as good as you
- 23:40Speaker 3: can get.
- 23:42Speaker 2: I'm interested to see how they use him in terms
- 23:44Speaker 2: of not just coverage, but the attacking aspect of it,
- 23:47Speaker 2: because we've seen him blitz in practice and things like that,
- 23:50Speaker 2: but he's a good tackler. We'll see if he's a
- 23:53Speaker 2: great tackler. Cause you're going to have some opportunities, but
- 23:55Speaker 2: I just want to see him do some things. Everybody
- 23:58Speaker 2: raves about him. The way they talk about him is
- 23:59Speaker 2: the way Alabama talked about Caleb downs. It's just, some
- 24:02Speaker 2: guys are different. So how different, how different do they
- 24:06Speaker 2: use them in this game? Cause I think we talked
- 24:09Speaker 2: about this. Like, I don't view this as being too
- 24:11Speaker 2: big for him. Just his mentality is different. Maybe we're
- 24:14Speaker 2: wrong about that. And freshmen are still freshmen, even in
- 24:16Speaker 2: games like this. This is the same guy that said,
- 24:18Speaker 2: I'm coming here to start as a freshman. Like that's,
- 24:22Speaker 2: It sounds crazy to say, but he's serious about that.
- 24:25Speaker 2: It's not just some, it's not a Bryce Underwood thing.
- 24:28Speaker 5: You know, it's.
- 24:30Speaker 2: It's different.
- 24:32Speaker 6: It is.
- 24:32Speaker 4: It is different.
- 24:33Speaker 1: And since you brought up Bryce Underwood, let's talk a
- 24:35Speaker 1: little bit about another guy who may be able to
- 24:37Speaker 1: run the ball a little bit on Saturday. Probably better
- 24:39Speaker 1: thrower of the football, but Arch Manning, we talked about
- 24:42Speaker 1: him as a passer. I think Arch Manning as a
- 24:45Speaker 1: runner might be one of the real X factors here
- 24:47Speaker 1: where if he can just use his legs to, sometimes
- 24:50Speaker 1: it's going to be picking up a first down. Sometimes
- 24:52Speaker 1: it's going to be getting out of the pocket to
- 24:53Speaker 1: buy some time and run that scramble drill, buy some
- 24:57Speaker 1: extra time for your receivers to get open, whatever it is.
- 25:00Speaker 1: It feels like, you know, last year it felt like
- 25:03Speaker 1: Ohio state was happy to just sort of cage him,
- 25:05Speaker 1: like say, okay, beat us with your arm. I don't
- 25:08Speaker 1: know that that's purely the game plan this year because
- 25:11Speaker 1: he's a much better thrower with the football than he
- 25:13Speaker 1: was this time last year. So, I don't know how
- 25:15Speaker 1: you balance that. Cause you know, everyone's going to say, well, well,
- 25:17Speaker 1: who are you going to spy him with? And who's
- 25:18Speaker 1: going to be the guy who.
- 25:19Speaker 4: Spies on every play?
- 25:20Speaker 1: And the answer is you can't just have one guy
- 25:21Speaker 1: because that makes you way too predictable.
- 25:23Speaker 4: But how do you defend that? How do you, how
- 25:26Speaker 4: do you balance?
- 25:27Speaker 1: You want to keep him from running the ball, but
- 25:29Speaker 1: also you can't just say, well, We're going to do
- 25:32Speaker 1: everything we can to keep him in the pocket and
- 25:33Speaker 1: then make him beat you with your.
- 25:34Speaker 4: Arm because this is a guy who can probably beat
- 25:36Speaker 4: you with his arm.
- 25:37Speaker 2: You get a TRO and bring Arbel Reese back.
- 25:39Speaker 4: But anyway, go ahead and jump. That's your solution for everything.
- 25:42Speaker 4: You'll win the court to bring back football players.
- 25:44Speaker 3: He was certainly a cheat code for a spy when
- 25:46Speaker 3: you needed one. Is Christian Allegro in that role quite
- 25:50Speaker 3: a bit? Can he handle that role? You know, I
- 25:53Speaker 3: think he can. I don't think you could against DeMond
- 25:56Speaker 3: Williams like you saw Aravel, but I think you can
- 25:58Speaker 3: against Arch, but he's going to get his, and I'm
- 26:00Speaker 3: pretty certain of that. Arch is a guy that is
- 26:03Speaker 3: a big, strong, physical running quarterback.
- 26:06Speaker 2: His thighs are massive. He's a tough dude to bring down.
- 26:10Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody will point to the big hit he took
- 26:13Speaker 3: against Ohio State and laugh about it, but he is
- 26:16Speaker 3: one heck of a football runner, and I think that'll
- 26:19Speaker 3: be a decent part of their game plan. particularly if
- 26:22Speaker 3: things aren't going great through the air or with the
- 26:24Speaker 3: running game. One of the two, we're going to activate
- 26:26Speaker 3: Arch in that run game. And it could potentially be
- 26:29Speaker 3: the difference in the game.
- 26:31Speaker 2: I think it would be better for Ohio State if
- 26:33Speaker 2: those runs that he picks up a first down, it
- 26:34Speaker 2: happened on first down instead of third down. Then he's
- 26:36Speaker 2: like so frustrating. He reset the chains. Because that was
- 26:40Speaker 2: the Miami game last year. Are you kidding? You picked
- 26:44Speaker 2: up by three inches again.
- 26:46Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 26:46Speaker 2: And it's a frustrating thing. And this one, it's like, well,
- 26:49Speaker 2: you know, first and ten, he picks up 11 yards.
- 26:51Speaker 2: It is what it is. Just stop him on third
- 26:53Speaker 2: down once you get there. I think he's a weapon
- 26:59Speaker 2: in the running game, and that might be how they
- 27:01Speaker 2: get their running game. It's like with Bryce Underwood. They
- 27:03Speaker 2: need to run him this week to get the offense moving.
- 27:07Speaker 2: I think you're putting an awful lot of Arch Manning
- 27:10Speaker 2: on Arch Manning, though, if you're asking him to be.
- 27:13Speaker 2: a guy that's going to carry the line, I don't know,
- 27:14Speaker 2: 10 times. Is this one of those JT Barrett games
- 27:16Speaker 2: where it's 16, 18 carries Will Howard against Notre Dame
- 27:21Speaker 2: or whatever, when he had like 16 carries or whatever,
- 27:23Speaker 2: where it's just by any means necessary. Let's get this one.
- 27:26Speaker 2: Take a break after this. Arch Manning has to give
- 27:29Speaker 2: it his all in this one. And I think he's
- 27:31Speaker 2: willing to do that.
- 27:32Speaker 1: Well, and there's been a lot of commentary in the
- 27:34Speaker 1: chat about there's, we've got a nice lively back and
- 27:36Speaker 1: forth between Ohio state fans and Texas fans watching you.
- 27:39Speaker 4: I'm watching you. It's been respectful so far.
- 27:43Speaker 2: Here as well.
- 27:44Speaker 4: Let's keep it. Yeah.
- 27:45Speaker 2: Yes.
- 27:46Speaker 1: Yes. But it's, it's a, now I forget where I
- 27:50Speaker 1: was going. I lectured the, I lectured the audience.
- 27:52Speaker 2: Arch Manning.
- 27:53Speaker 4: Arch Manning.
- 27:53Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 27:54Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 27:54Speaker 2: You were saying he's no good.
- 27:55Speaker 1: It's not, I don't think exactly what I was, what
- 27:58Speaker 1: I was saying, but what's on the line. Cause there
- 28:02Speaker 1: was some talk that, you know, if, if Texas doesn't win,
- 28:04Speaker 1: then oh boy, Sark's going to have some heat.
- 28:07Speaker 4: I think if Texas misses the playoff this year, Sark's
- 28:10Speaker 4: going to probably face some heat.
- 28:11Speaker 1: I don't know if he's getting fired or not, but,
- 28:13Speaker 1: They have given him all of the resources, you know,
- 28:15Speaker 1: the old Bill Parcells, you want.
- 28:18Speaker 4: Me to cook dinner, you don't want to let me
- 28:19Speaker 4: shop for the groceries. They went to Whole Foods, and
- 28:22Speaker 4: they got the good stuff this offseason.
- 28:25Speaker 1: And, you know, that's not, this is not to say
- 28:27Speaker 1: Ohio State did not also shop at Whole Foods. Don't worry,
- 28:30Speaker 1: these are two very well-stocked rosters and two well-compensated rosters.
- 28:34Speaker 1: But this is, you're kind of running out of excuses
- 28:37Speaker 1: for Sark, where he got to the college football playoff
- 28:39Speaker 1: semifinals back to back years.
- 28:41Speaker 4: That's impressive. That's really impressive. Lost both of those games.
- 28:44Speaker 1: But fan bases also get impatient where it feels like, oh,
- 28:47Speaker 1: you've kind of hit the ceiling. And the expectations in
- 28:50Speaker 1: Texas are not, well, you have a good season every
- 28:52Speaker 1: few years. No, the expectation in Texas is win the
- 28:55Speaker 1: national championship. Now, they don't win the national championship very often,
- 28:58Speaker 1: but that's one of the places where that doesn't really
- 29:01Speaker 1: change the expectation at all.
- 29:02Speaker 2: Yeah, this is not Texas A & M where they're
- 29:04Speaker 2: happy with eight wins.
- 29:05Speaker 4: This is Texas.
- 29:06Speaker 2: Where it's real, real football.
- 29:08Speaker 4: Look at Tony playing both sides here. Austin, Texas.
- 29:13Speaker 2: Cheap hop. But, yeah, with the expectations on Sark and
- 29:19Speaker 2: the expectations on Ryan Day, it's not going to go
- 29:21Speaker 2: well for Ryan Day if they don't make the playoffs. Yeah.
- 29:25Speaker 2: And for that to happen, for Ohio State to not
- 29:27Speaker 2: make it, you're talking three losses.
- 29:28Speaker 4: At least.
- 29:30Speaker 2: Yes. I don't even know. It's been a while since
- 29:33Speaker 2: Ohio State had three losses in the regular season. to
- 29:36Speaker 2: lose something, would that be– 2011, I think. Yeah, Luke Fickle, 2011,
- 29:41Speaker 2: to give you an idea. So this is not something
- 29:42Speaker 2: that happens.
- 29:43Speaker 1: And before that, it was 2004. I mean, so it's
- 29:47Speaker 1: twice in 21 years.
- 29:49Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a thing that people are accustomed to.
- 29:52Speaker 2: So then there's certainly some worry and some consternation. But, again,
- 29:57Speaker 2: the loser of this game has not lost three games.
- 29:59Speaker 2: They've lost one game, and the winner might be number
- 30:03Speaker 2: one at the end of this.
- 30:05Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this is– what's interesting is last year
- 30:08Speaker 1: we had the talk that the team that won was
- 30:11Speaker 1: functionally in the college football playoff. Because you looked at
- 30:13Speaker 1: the rest of their schedule, it's like you're going to
- 30:14Speaker 1: lose– you might lose a game or two, but when
- 30:16Speaker 1: you have a win this big, you're probably in. And
- 30:18Speaker 1: I think that's probably true here as well, where the
- 30:20Speaker 1: winner of this game would have to really work pretty
- 30:23Speaker 1: hard to not make the playoff. I mean, they have
- 30:26Speaker 1: lots of losable games, but if you have this as
- 30:28Speaker 1: a win– and you just go three and three on
- 30:31Speaker 1: your next six best games, you're probably still in the
- 30:34Speaker 1: playoff based on this win.
- 30:35Speaker 2: And I said the winner of this game might be
- 30:37Speaker 2: ranked number one. I understand Ohio State is still ranked
- 30:39Speaker 2: number one.
- 30:40Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 30:40Speaker 2: And if they win, they're not going to drop, unless
- 30:42Speaker 2: this is Kirk Herbstreit's ballot from 2010 when they beat
- 30:45Speaker 2: Arkansas and he dropped them six spots. But if Texas,
- 30:50Speaker 2: what are they ranked, fourth?
- 30:51Speaker 4: Fourth, yeah.
- 30:52Speaker 2: If they beat the number one team at home?
- 30:54Speaker 4: That's the best win anyone's had in the country. So
- 30:57Speaker 4: you move them.
- 30:57Speaker 2: You think it's better than what Indiana's gotten? Indiana. Chuck,
- 31:01Speaker 2: you think that's better than what Indiana's gotten?
- 31:03Speaker 4: Miami had a pretty big win Thursday night or Friday,
- 31:05Speaker 4: Thursday night.
- 31:05Speaker 2: So, yeah. Yeah, fam, you.
- 31:08Speaker 3: You know, I got to say, while I agree that, well,
- 31:13Speaker 3: number one, Ohio State, no, it's been forever and a
- 31:15Speaker 3: day since they lost three games. But I think there
- 31:17Speaker 3: has to be something that starts entering– The mind here
- 31:20Speaker 3: is we look at the new expanded Big Ten and
- 31:22Speaker 3: not just the expanded Big Ten, but the number of
- 31:24Speaker 3: teams that are now jumping in on football and investing
- 31:27Speaker 3: on football. The schedules just look much more daunting now.
- 31:31Speaker 3: We might be talking about three losses as the new
- 31:35Speaker 3: two losses in a couple of years from now. But
- 31:39Speaker 3: this team right now, if Ohio State goes down here,
- 31:41Speaker 3: wins this game, massive win. And I think there are
- 31:44Speaker 3: a couple different avenues where with three losses, you still
- 31:47Speaker 3: get in. And Texas, of course, beating number one. That
- 31:51Speaker 3: would be huge. Losing to number one in a close game,
- 31:54Speaker 3: not so bad. But Sark losing three in a row
- 31:57Speaker 3: to Ohio State is going to infuriate this fan base.
- 32:01Speaker 3: When you look at his big wins, 2023 at Alabama,
- 32:02Speaker 3: and then Clemson in the playoffs, Arizona State in the playoffs,
- 32:04Speaker 3: that's kind of it. They're looking for a big top-tier win.
- 32:17Speaker 3: That Alabama-wise one, they haven't really seen one since then.
- 32:21Speaker 3: They want to see him knock off one of the
- 32:22Speaker 3: big dogs. This is his third opportunity with Ohio State.
- 32:26Speaker 3: He is currently 0-5 against Ohio State and Georgia. Hasn't
- 32:29Speaker 3: scored a touchdown in the first quarter of any of
- 32:31Speaker 3: those games. And they want to see it from him.
- 32:33Speaker 3: So I think it is going to be a pretty
- 32:35Speaker 3: big deal if they lose again to Ohio State and
- 32:37Speaker 3: fall to 0-6 to what were the two pre-end programs.
- 32:42Speaker 2: Not so sure if you can say that right now
- 32:43Speaker 2: about Georgia.
- 32:44Speaker 3: But tough break, man, if that happens.
- 32:47Speaker 2: But then imagine Ohio State and Texas playing in the
- 32:49Speaker 2: playoffs and you're facing down four losses in a row
- 32:53Speaker 2: to Ohio State. The pressure that would be on you there.
- 32:57Speaker 2: You make the playoffs and you still get in trouble
- 32:58Speaker 2: for doing that. But in terms of the Ohio State
- 33:02Speaker 2: schedule being much more difficult, you're talking about an Ohio
- 33:04Speaker 2: State that just in conference play has played, what, three
- 33:08Speaker 2: teams that have played for a national championship before. in
- 33:11Speaker 2: the last four years, and that's not including Oregon. You're
- 33:15Speaker 2: talking Washington, Michigan, Indiana. Did Urban Meyer ever have to
- 33:19Speaker 2: do that in the Big Ten? No, he never had
- 33:20Speaker 2: to play single, not even one. Jim Trestle, not even one.
- 33:24Speaker 2: And this is the norm now, and this is a
- 33:28Speaker 2: much different Big Ten. And then, you know, Ohio State
- 33:32Speaker 2: plays that extra game. You've got a nine-game schedule as well. So, yeah, like,
- 33:38Speaker 2: you're right. Three losses now is two losses back then,
- 33:45Speaker 2: and maybe sometimes, depending on the schedule, one loss.
- 33:47Speaker 1: Yeah, and you go back to 2018, Ohio State missed
- 33:50Speaker 1: a four-team playoff with one loss. But when you lose
- 33:54Speaker 1: to a six-and-six Purdue team by four touchdowns, give or take,
- 33:59Speaker 1: that'll do it.
- 34:00Speaker 4: You have the right one loss, that'll do it.
- 34:02Speaker 1: 2017, they had two losses.
- 34:05Speaker 4: One of them was to Oklahoma, who made the playoffs.
- 34:07Speaker 1: But then they lost by 20-something points at Iowa. And
- 34:11Speaker 1: that was kind of Texas last year where, you know,
- 34:15Speaker 1: all the Texas fans are saying, well, if they hadn't
- 34:17Speaker 1: scheduled Ohio State, the answer is if you hadn't lost
- 34:19Speaker 1: to a four-win Florida team.
- 34:21Speaker 4: That would have changed a whole lot of things around
- 34:23Speaker 4: that conversation.
- 34:24Speaker 2: Or even looked good in that loss. And maybe there's
- 34:26Speaker 2: a discussion.
- 34:27Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. So we're going to get to some of
- 34:29Speaker 1: our start about eight or 10 of the comments and
- 34:33Speaker 1: questions here. If you want to stretch it out, they
- 34:35Speaker 1: want to jump to the front of the line.
- 34:36Speaker 4: You can throw us a super chat and they can,
- 34:38Speaker 4: that jumps you to the front of the line.
- 34:40Speaker 1: Our good friend Sue wants to know what percentage of
- 34:42Speaker 1: the crowd will be Buckeyes. I saw that Ohio state
- 34:44Speaker 1: got between 3,500 and 4,000 tickets, which is they got
- 34:49Speaker 1: the same number this year that Texas got in Ohio
- 34:51Speaker 1: stadium last year. There will be more Buckeyes in the
- 34:54Speaker 1: stadium than that. But, If it's, what is it, seat 90,000,
- 34:58Speaker 1: give or take, something like that?
- 34:59Speaker 4: Oh, is it 103? Okay. How many Buckeye fans are
- 35:03Speaker 4: there Saturday night? Is it 10%? Is it 15%? Is
- 35:08Speaker 4: it more than that?
- 35:09Speaker 2: 10%, right? I was thinking 10,000. I don't know what
- 35:12Speaker 2: that is percentage-wise for 100,000.
- 35:15Speaker 3: So from the Ohio State point of view, I don't
- 35:17Speaker 3: feel this is like a must-go-see, must-go-travel-to.
- 35:20Speaker 2: When you look at the schedule, there's quite a few
- 35:22Speaker 2: of them. One of them is a lot closer to home.
- 35:25Speaker 3: Indiana and then you got the Oregon game you could
- 35:26Speaker 3: also I just don't know if this one is drawing
- 35:29Speaker 3: that kind of interest to want to travel from Ohio
- 35:31Speaker 3: down to Texas so I will say I saw quite
- 35:33Speaker 3: a few today yeah which is pretty cool yeah and
- 35:37Speaker 3: but and the other thing that might there's a couple other.
- 35:38Speaker 1: Things that might be working against a huge Ohio State
- 35:41Speaker 1: turnout one is the forecast there's been a lot of
- 35:43Speaker 1: conversation about the fact that it's probably not going to
- 35:45Speaker 1: be the most pleasant day to be outside tomorrow in
- 35:47Speaker 1: Austin and the other thing is it ain't cheap this
- 35:51Speaker 1: is This is a, you know, there's a lot of
- 35:53Speaker 1: games that are going to be on this Ohio State
- 35:54Speaker 1: schedule that people are going to want to see. There are,
- 35:57Speaker 1: you know, there was a point this week when I
- 35:59Speaker 1: think the get-in price was around $ 600, something like that. And,
- 36:02Speaker 1: you know, if you want a seat that is better
- 36:04Speaker 1: than the get-in price seat, you're looking at something in
- 36:07Speaker 1: the four digits. And, you know, Ohio State's traveling to
- 36:10Speaker 1: USC this year. Ohio State's traveling to Indiana this year.
- 36:12Speaker 1: Ohio State's got Oregon coming to town. Ohio State's got
- 36:14Speaker 1: Michigan coming to town.
- 36:15Speaker 2: You've got the postseason as well that people are thinking about.
- 36:17Speaker 1: Yeah, and... As we've seen in the last few years,
- 36:20Speaker 1: that can be you buy a ticket for a home game,
- 36:23Speaker 1: and then you have to fly across the country to
- 36:24Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl. Then you have to fly back across
- 36:26Speaker 1: the country to the Cotton Bowl. And then you have
- 36:28Speaker 1: to fly across the country to the National Championship game.
- 36:31Speaker 2: So even if you had a ticket for this, you
- 36:32Speaker 2: might be like, you know what? I'm going to sell
- 36:33Speaker 2: that so that I can fund something else. Yeah, and
- 36:36Speaker 2: we had members on our site. We should plug our site,
- 36:39Speaker 2: by the way, BuckeyeInsiders.com. You can find us there, have
- 36:41Speaker 2: a really fun community. We actually have a live event
- 36:44Speaker 2: happening right after this. If you are in Austin and
- 36:47Speaker 2: want to come hang out with us tonight, You have
- 36:49Speaker 2: to sign up at BuckeyeInsiders.com and then find the Texas
- 36:53Speaker 2: roll call thread on our message board, our member message board,
- 36:56Speaker 2: and all the information about.
- 36:57Speaker 4: Tonight's live event in Austin.
- 36:59Speaker 1: But this is a, you know, this is a, we
- 37:02Speaker 1: saw people on the board talking about the fact that, like,
- 37:05Speaker 1: even people who had tickets were saying, well, I'm going
- 37:07Speaker 1: to go down there, but I only am going to
- 37:10Speaker 1: spend so much money because there are so many other
- 37:13Speaker 1: big games. Unless you you know, unless you happen to be,
- 37:17Speaker 1: you know, Rockefeller of some sort.
- 37:20Speaker 2: Dynamite reference.
- 37:22Speaker 4: It is a, from the Adobe.
- 37:24Speaker 1: For those of us whose last name is, it doesn't
- 37:26Speaker 1: happen to be Rockefeller from the Adobe, the little car
- 37:28Speaker 1: made out of clay.
- 37:29Speaker 2: Another timely reference.
- 37:30Speaker 4: The most timely.
- 37:31Speaker 8: Yes.
- 37:31Speaker 1: Uh, I do think there is a limit to how
- 37:37Speaker 1: many people are really good. There's plenty of Buckeyes down here,
- 37:40Speaker 1: but even they have to figure out what they're going
- 37:42Speaker 1: to spend the money on.
- 37:44Speaker 2: It's not 2006.
- 37:45Speaker 3: There are a lot of options for a massive game
- 37:47Speaker 3: to see your Buckeyes play. But for the fellas up north,
- 37:52Speaker 3: $ 60 tickets for the Oklahoma.
- 37:53Speaker 4: Game or something.
- 37:55Speaker 1: Yeah, boy, the bandwagon has emptied quickly, even at 1-0 asterisk.
- 38:00Speaker 4: The bandwagon has.
- 38:04Speaker 1: Well, and the 100,000-seat streak, which is another asterisk, because
- 38:11Speaker 1: if you remember the 2014 Maryland game, uh-huh, sure, uh-huh,
- 38:15Speaker 1: that's probably in mortal danger this year.
- 38:18Speaker 2: Do you think if Michigan loses to Ugly some point
- 38:20Speaker 2: next week, it's buy two Diet Cokes, get a ticket?
- 38:23Speaker 1: You might be back in the battle days of Brady
- 38:27Speaker 1: Hoke and Dave Brandon pretty soon.
- 38:30Speaker 4: Yeah, that could get real gross.
- 38:33Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 38:34Speaker 1: But the line for that game is only what five
- 38:37Speaker 1: and a half, six points, which we were saying.
- 38:38Speaker 2: Earlier, six and a half, six.
- 38:40Speaker 9: Okay.
- 38:40Speaker 4: So it's moved.
- 38:41Speaker 1: It's moved to full point. It's still not a touchdown.
- 38:45Speaker 1: That is, that is a, somebody knows something.
- 38:47Speaker 4: Line to me. Yeah.
- 38:48Speaker 2: Cause everybody's going, what's going on.
- 38:50Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 38:50Speaker 2: Pound of Michigan.
- 38:51Speaker 4: It's all I'm hearing.
- 38:55Speaker 2: It's not moving much.
- 38:57Speaker 1: Uh, B official super chat says, it seems like people
- 38:59Speaker 1: think that since Arch Manning has Cam Coleman, that their
- 39:01Speaker 1: chemistry will be better than Julian and JJ.
- 39:04Speaker 4: What do you guys think?
- 39:05Speaker 3: No way. No way. The chemistry we saw between JJ and,
- 39:09Speaker 3: And saying last week was different than we've seen.
- 39:12Speaker 2: I mean, it was so automatic. Right out of his brain.
- 39:16Speaker 2: Every time, it just looked like, how do you stop that?
- 39:19Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know how Texas stops that.
- 39:22Speaker 3: Some of the shorter stuff, it's just like, that's unstoppable
- 39:24Speaker 3: right there.
- 39:25Speaker 2: It's three yards. And now he's got the ball in
- 39:26Speaker 2: his hands, and now what's he going to do?
- 39:28Speaker 3: And no, I don't.
- 39:30Speaker 2: Think that that's going to be anywhere close between arch
- 39:33Speaker 2: and pullman and i don't.
- 39:35Speaker 3: Think they utilize in that way i don't think that's
- 39:37Speaker 3: how we see him utilize i think that'll be more
- 39:38Speaker 3: of a a wingo kind of you might see him
- 39:41Speaker 3: with wingo on that shorter automatic stuff that that jj
- 39:45Speaker 3: and san seems so in sync with to me but
- 39:48Speaker 3: uh No, I definitely think that that advantage is to
- 39:51Speaker 3: the Buckeyes there.
- 39:54Speaker 2: You know, we saw in camp the first three days
- 39:56Speaker 2: we were there, where anytime there's a miscommunication between Sayan
- 39:59Speaker 2: and Jeremiah, Ryan Day pulled them aside, and they talked,
- 40:03Speaker 2: and they got together, and they talked. What did you see?
- 40:04Speaker 2: What did you see? Because they want this stuff precise,
- 40:07Speaker 2: and you saw something outside of that first pass of
- 40:10Speaker 2: the game to Jeremiah. Like, there was precision there, and
- 40:13Speaker 2: they've worked on that, and they've been around longer now.
- 40:16Speaker 2: Cam Coleman... Now, how precise do you need to be?
- 40:18Speaker 4: Not as, but still. He's not an area code receiver,
- 40:22Speaker 4: but he's a zip code receiver.
- 40:23Speaker 2: But still, all of this stuff is still, like, you
- 40:25Speaker 2: need to be on this yard line because somebody else
- 40:28Speaker 2: is over here. And if you're too far this way
- 40:30Speaker 2: and you bring a defender into this, now you've got
- 40:32Speaker 2: too many guys that could get the ball. So there's
- 40:34Speaker 2: still angles and things like that that they have to
- 40:37Speaker 2: be precise on.
- 40:39Speaker 1: Really?
- 40:40Speaker 4: 45 minutes?
- 40:40Speaker 8: Friends?
- 40:44Speaker 4: Let's settle in for a nice long.
- 40:46Speaker 2: Settle in? How about we come back?
- 40:48Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll be back.
- 40:50Speaker 4: Yeah, so apparently they're running late. We've been told 45 minutes.
- 40:53Speaker 2: Did they stop at Whataburger?
- 40:54Speaker 4: Yeah, they did stop. So great news. We have more
- 40:59Speaker 4: time to talk to you about college football, which is
- 41:01Speaker 4: our very favorite thing to talk to you about.
- 41:04Speaker 2: Throw some questions in the chat.
- 41:05Speaker 1: Yeah, throw some questions in the chat. Like questions, not comments,
- 41:08Speaker 1: not arguing. Throw questions in there. We got lots of
- 41:10Speaker 1: time for you to talk to you. Here's a question
- 41:12Speaker 1: from our buddy Murphy. one of the newest members at
- 41:14Speaker 1: Buckeye insiders.com. Thank you for your support. He wants to
- 41:17Speaker 1: know if the sub zero uniforms are confirmed for this game.
- 41:21Speaker 1: I have not seen any confirmation and they put out
- 41:24Speaker 1: a graphic earlier in the week that had Peyton Pierce
- 41:27Speaker 1: wearing what sure looked like the traditional gray pants.
- 41:31Speaker 2: But it's black and white. So you can't really tell.
- 41:34Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't really tell, but it sure looked like
- 41:38Speaker 1: he was in the, in the sort of, traditional uniform.
- 41:42Speaker 2: I would prefer to see traditional uniforms in this game
- 41:44Speaker 2: for both teams because I like Texas. I like all
- 41:47Speaker 2: of their uniforms. So I don't know. What do you think?
- 41:49Speaker 2: You look like you've got something to say. I don't
- 41:51Speaker 2: think it's happening.
- 41:52Speaker 4: No, I don't. I don't.
- 41:53Speaker 3: That's my opinion. Definitely not confirmed. That's for sure. But
- 41:57Speaker 3: I am with you when there's a big time matchup.
- 42:01Speaker 3: I do like to see traditional sets. I'm not a
- 42:04Speaker 3: curmudgeon when it comes to alts. And certainly when they
- 42:08Speaker 3: went out to Oregon wearing the wearing all whites i
- 42:11Speaker 3: thought was awesome but when you talk about two classic
- 42:15Speaker 3: blue bloods like that's that's a matchup i like to
- 42:17Speaker 3: see the traditional yeah we're talking texas not oregon right
- 42:20Speaker 3: like real football i don't even know what oregon's uniforms
- 42:22Speaker 3: are you said pick one which is it yeah what
- 42:25Speaker 3: is it green or is it yellow is that what
- 42:27Speaker 3: is the typical the standard they're just green on white
- 42:30Speaker 3: i don't know what it's like if they're if you're
- 42:32Speaker 3: to say like which is their one uniform like what's
- 42:34Speaker 3: their major i.
- 42:35Speaker 2: Don't know no um I don't mind the alts either.
- 42:40Speaker 2: I've even liked all of the– I'd say most of
- 42:43Speaker 2: the ones against Michigan back in the day. They eventually
- 42:46Speaker 2: grow on you. I like some of the colors and
- 42:48Speaker 2: some of the helmets I thought also can pop. But
- 42:51Speaker 2: I'm still waiting for home uniforms against Ohio State and Michigan,
- 42:55Speaker 2: both teams wearing home uniforms.
- 42:56Speaker 4: You've got to go color on color.
- 42:58Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the one thing I'm waiting on. I liked
- 43:01Speaker 2: a little bit of what Notre Dame and Wisconsin did,
- 43:03Speaker 2: but it was just– it was also too much because
- 43:07Speaker 2: you can't see the numbers and it's terrible, especially from
- 43:09Speaker 2: the press box. You're going to, you're going to hate
- 43:11Speaker 2: it when you see stuff like that. Like the black uniforms,
- 43:13Speaker 2: you can't see the numbers. There's just little things like that,
- 43:16Speaker 2: that annoy me that people don't care about. And it's,
- 43:19Speaker 2: you know, is that right? No, it's not right.
- 43:21Speaker 3: They should care what I think with these latest set
- 43:23Speaker 3: of all uniforms. What I love about them is it's really,
- 43:26Speaker 3: it's the same uniform. It's just, we're changing the color and,
- 43:29Speaker 3: you know, to be able to mix those up. Kind
- 43:31Speaker 3: of like when I look at the Browns uniforms, you know,
- 43:32Speaker 3: they have the three different colored pants.
- 43:35Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 43:35Speaker 1: Right. Right.
- 43:36Speaker 2: It doesn't bother me one bit.
- 43:40Speaker 3: Going off the reservation to those one-off alts, sometimes at
- 43:44Speaker 3: times they aggravated me when they were a little too.
- 43:46Speaker 2: They were a tribute.
- 43:48Speaker 6: Yes.
- 43:49Speaker 2: But sometimes they were just a little too, I don't.
- 43:51Speaker 3: Know, for a lot of people who are kind of
- 43:53Speaker 3: like uniformed traditionals like me.
- 43:55Speaker 2: But these ones don't bother me at all as a
- 43:57Speaker 2: guy who's kind of a uniformed traditionals. I love it
- 43:59Speaker 2: when they kind of mix it up.
- 44:01Speaker 4: But not for Texans. However.
- 44:03Speaker 3: going color on color in the Ohio state Michigan game
- 44:05Speaker 3: is something that happened long ago. So that is tradition
- 44:08Speaker 3: to go ahead and do that again. And I would
- 44:10Speaker 3: love to see it. Obviously USC, UCLA is beautiful. I
- 44:14Speaker 3: think Ohio state Michigan would be just as good looking.
- 44:17Speaker 2: I will also add, Gene Smith said that was just
- 44:20Speaker 2: a one-time thing with the all uniforms against Michigan.
- 44:23Speaker 4: So, and then what happened?
- 44:25Speaker 2: Well, then they did it another one time and then
- 44:27Speaker 2: like three other one-time things, but it's not like they
- 44:29Speaker 2: were doing two uniforms at the same time. So it
- 44:31Speaker 2: was a one time thing. of this particular uniform. They've
- 44:35Speaker 2: never worn those uniforms since. So who's laughing now? Yes.
- 44:39Speaker 1: My, my general opinion on all of this has reached
- 44:42Speaker 1: the point of, I've reached the point of acceptance on
- 44:44Speaker 1: these stages of grief with the Ohio state alternate uniforms,
- 44:46Speaker 1: where as long as they don't blight the Michigan game
- 44:48Speaker 1: with them, like that's fine.
- 44:50Speaker 4: You want to, whatever you want to want. Oh no. Well,
- 44:52Speaker 4: it looks stupid. If you're wearing a stupid uniform against Oregon. Wow.
- 44:55Speaker 1: What, what would that look like? Crazy uniforms on the
- 44:57Speaker 1: field with Oregon, like wearing.
- 44:59Speaker 2: A crazy uniform against Oregon is like, going to a
- 45:01Speaker 2: karaoke bar and singing karaoke. That's what I'm here for.
- 45:06Speaker 2: Everybody's singing. I'm going to get up to sing Islands
- 45:07Speaker 2: on the stream.
- 45:09Speaker 4: You see what I look like. They start playing Sweet Caroline.
- 45:12Speaker 4: What am I going to do?
- 45:13Speaker 2: Stop.
- 45:14Speaker 4: Can't stop.
- 45:15Speaker 2: Won't stop.
- 45:16Speaker 4: Won't stop.
- 45:17Speaker 1: Terry says Texas gave up 12 tackles for loss against
- 45:19Speaker 1: Texas State.
- 45:20Speaker 4: Buckeyes gave up six to Ball State. Can we glean
- 45:23Speaker 4: anything from that?
- 45:24Speaker 2: I remember it being eight tackles for loss. For Ball State?
- 45:28Speaker 2: For Texas State. Which is still a lot.
- 45:30Speaker 1: They had 10 rushing plays that were no gain or loss,
- 45:35Speaker 1: I believe.
- 45:36Speaker 4: And I don't think they have any sacks. I mean,
- 45:38Speaker 4: it's probably whether, whatever it.
- 45:41Speaker 2: Is, it may have been eight in the first three quarters.
- 45:44Speaker 4: Maybe. Yeah. Which then at that point, it's still a lot.
- 45:47Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 45:47Speaker 4: It's still, it's still a lot. What do you, what
- 45:50Speaker 4: do you make of that?
- 45:51Speaker 1: Other than I have questions about offensive lines on both
- 45:53Speaker 1: sides of this game.
- 45:55Speaker 2: Which I think is kind of, we started the show
- 45:57Speaker 2: a little bit with that. Yeah.
- 45:59Speaker 3: I do have questions, particularly about the interior of the
- 46:01Speaker 3: Texas offensive line. And I think that there's a chance
- 46:05Speaker 3: we could see what I gleaned from it. We could
- 46:07Speaker 3: see James Smith and Andrew Houston and John Walker do
- 46:11Speaker 3: some damage is what I think.
- 46:12Speaker 1: Well, especially Texas's biggest question. Ohio state has questions at
- 46:16Speaker 1: the tackle spots. Texas's biggest question in the offensive line
- 46:18Speaker 1: by a mile, I think is that left guard spot.
- 46:20Speaker 1: And that feels like, you see a lot of James
- 46:25Speaker 1: Smith and Edward Houston over there. That tends to be
- 46:27Speaker 1: where those guys line up. This could be a really
- 46:30Speaker 1: big game for the three-tech spot for Ohio State. But
- 46:32Speaker 1: if it's not, is that a problem?
- 46:35Speaker 8: Well, no.
- 46:36Speaker 2: I mean, it just depends on what everybody else does.
- 46:40Speaker 2: But if it is, like if James Smith or Edward
- 46:42Speaker 2: Houston have a big game, and I'm still waiting, are
- 46:44Speaker 2: we going to see the penny front with both of
- 46:45Speaker 2: those guys in there maybe? And John Walker, the wrecker,
- 46:48Speaker 2: that nose tackle, then whether that's Kwe Russo and Kenyatta
- 46:52Speaker 2: Jackson out on the edges. I don't know that we
- 46:54Speaker 2: saw much of the penny front in that regard, but
- 46:58Speaker 2: can then Peyton Pierce be Sonny Stiles in that and
- 47:02Speaker 2: fill the one gap that is freed from that or
- 47:05Speaker 2: stop the running back coming through there? The reason that
- 47:08Speaker 2: was able to work was because Sonny Stiles cleaned stuff up.
- 47:11Speaker 2: If it got to him, it didn't always get to him,
- 47:14Speaker 2: but I think you have the opportunity to play some
- 47:16Speaker 2: of these defensive linemen, and we know they're going to
- 47:20Speaker 2: play more But, yeah, it'll be interesting to see. Can
- 47:23Speaker 2: James Smith and Edgar Houston and John Walker and Will
- 47:26Speaker 2: Smith as well. But we saw John Walker, like, really
- 47:29Speaker 2: collapsing things a few times. We saw James Smith getting
- 47:32Speaker 2: into the backfield a few times. Still waiting for Edgar
- 47:34Speaker 2: Houston to have one of those games where it's like, okay,
- 47:36Speaker 2: he has arrived. But if they can get something out
- 47:39Speaker 2: of one of those guys, it's one of the things
- 47:40Speaker 2: we've talked about, both of us have talked about, in
- 47:44Speaker 2: terms of does Ohio State need a defensive tackle to
- 47:46Speaker 2: be a star this year? Do they need a defensive
- 47:49Speaker 2: tackle to be a star in this game?
- 47:50Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
- 47:51Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 47:51Speaker 1: And one of the X factors in this game is
- 47:55Speaker 1: Quay Rousseau, who did not play last week.
- 47:57Speaker 4: He came over.
- 47:57Speaker 1: He was one of the transfers like James Smith came
- 47:59Speaker 1: up from Alabama this offseason. James Smith, we have seen,
- 48:02Speaker 1: you know, we've been hearing about both of those guys
- 48:05Speaker 1: all offseason. James Smith, you started to see it last week.
- 48:08Speaker 1: Quay Rousseau, he feels like he's not like the traditional
- 48:12Speaker 1: defensive end, but he's also not a linebacker. He's kind
- 48:15Speaker 1: of sort of an in-between guy. And my assumption has
- 48:19Speaker 1: always been he'll be in that third down, third and
- 48:22Speaker 1: long rush man package, and you'll see him in those
- 48:25Speaker 1: kinds of situations. But would it surprise you if it's
- 48:29Speaker 1: first and 10 and you saw Quay Rousseau out.
- 48:31Speaker 4: There on Saturday night?
- 48:33Speaker 2: No, no.
- 48:33Speaker 3: I think that there's a lot of different things that
- 48:36Speaker 3: we could see that would be like, well, we wouldn't
- 48:37Speaker 3: have thought of that.
- 48:38Speaker 2: But I guess it works, right?
- 48:40Speaker 3: And I think we could see something interesting work like
- 48:42Speaker 3: that with Quay Rousseau, who Texas hasn't seen since he
- 48:46Speaker 3: was at Bama.
- 48:48Speaker 2: But a bit of a different role here for him
- 48:50Speaker 2: than he was with Bama.
- 48:52Speaker 3: Playing that, what the heck is the wolf position that
- 48:55Speaker 3: they have over there, which is a bit different than
- 48:57Speaker 3: what he's supposedly going to be doing with Ohio State. And,
- 49:01Speaker 3: you know, we saw the third down packages with Kari
- 49:04Speaker 3: Wilder coming in. And you get Kari and a guy
- 49:06Speaker 3: like Quay in there together. I mean, that's some serious speed.
- 49:10Speaker 3: Quay's got some real power. speed combo. Not going to
- 49:14Speaker 3: be a great guy in the run game setting the edge.
- 49:17Speaker 4: That's not what he's going to be for, but to
- 49:19Speaker 4: bring him in.
- 49:20Speaker 3: On some pass rush situations, to try to manufacture some
- 49:24Speaker 3: pressure on arch, if you're not getting it, or even
- 49:27Speaker 3: if you start right off the rip with it, either way,
- 49:30Speaker 3: you've got to find a way to bring that pressure somehow.
- 49:32Speaker 2: And I'm wondering if there's any thought that, well, if
- 49:35Speaker 2: Texas State can contain the run, Quay Russo should be
- 49:38Speaker 2: able to play and contain the run. But I don't
- 49:40Speaker 2: know that he's done a lot of that. He himself says,
- 49:44Speaker 2: I'm a pass rush specialist, and I'm the Jack linebacker
- 49:48Speaker 2: in the Oki front, which is the five-man front with
- 49:51Speaker 2: the linebackers out there. But how much of this has
- 49:54Speaker 2: he done in terms of, I am a run-first defender
- 49:58Speaker 2: on this. And if he's not, if he's immediately just
- 50:02Speaker 2: still going after the pass, or does that leave something
- 50:05Speaker 2: open in terms of, well, there goes that long run
- 50:07Speaker 2: that we were talking about because he lost leverage or
- 50:09Speaker 2: he didn't set the edge or he went too wide
- 50:12Speaker 2: and left room for a cutback. So I'm interested to
- 50:15Speaker 2: see what he does. I think it's going to be
- 50:20Speaker 2: pass rushing for him, but also if it's not, what
- 50:23Speaker 2: does that say about Bo Atkinson and Zion Grady?
- 50:25Speaker 4: Yeah, it's, it'd be interesting.
- 50:28Speaker 1: Cause yeah, that's been a spot where we've thought we
- 50:30Speaker 1: had a good grip on what was happening. And then it,
- 50:33Speaker 1: you know, Just when you think I have the answer,
- 50:35Speaker 1: they keep changing the questions. That feels like that's been
- 50:37Speaker 1: the defensive ends for a little bit this season.
- 50:43Speaker 4: Lou says, to be honest, Texas is supposed to win.
- 50:46Speaker 4: Spent a lot of money in the portal at all positions.
- 50:48Speaker 4: OSU is young.
- 50:49Speaker 1: If not now, then when? We officially put the Sark
- 50:51Speaker 1: on the hot seat tomorrow. We talk about the Sark
- 50:54Speaker 1: piece of this, but I understand that. Ohio State's number
- 50:58Speaker 1: one in the nation, so it's not like this is
- 51:00Speaker 1: a team that's coming in here that's got aspirations of
- 51:02Speaker 1: playing in.
- 51:03Speaker 4: The bad boy mowers bowl.
- 51:04Speaker 1: But this does feel a little bit like everything's sort
- 51:09Speaker 1: of aligned for Texas this year. In the same way
- 51:11Speaker 1: that you sort of feel like it's aligned for Oregon
- 51:13Speaker 1: this year, where I think it is fair to ask
- 51:16Speaker 1: the if-not-now-when question.
- 51:17Speaker 3: Well, the only reason Ohio State's number one and not
- 51:20Speaker 3: Texas is the trust factor for Ryan Nitt.
- 51:23Speaker 4: That's it.
- 51:24Speaker 3: Other than that, we're just looking at all the.
- 51:27Speaker 2: Advantages that Texas has this year.
- 51:29Speaker 3: They got the high-end, the pile of guys that could
- 51:32Speaker 3: be drafted in the top 15. They got the experienced
- 51:36Speaker 3: veteran quarterback. They've got all the toys that they wanted
- 51:39Speaker 3: that they brought in. And the fact that they have
- 51:42Speaker 3: a coach that's voters, people in general, the public, that
- 51:46Speaker 3: represents the general public, don't trust him as much, that's
- 51:50Speaker 3: the reason they're not number one, in my opinion.
- 51:52Speaker 2: Who's two and three? Is Georgia in there? So Georgia's
- 51:57Speaker 2: just moved up to number two, Notre Dame number three.
- 51:59Speaker 2: And so....
- 52:01Speaker 4: Oh yeah, because Oregon took a tumble last week.
- 52:04Speaker 2: But at Oregon, were they number two to start out
- 52:06Speaker 2: in the preseason?
- 52:07Speaker 4: I think they were, and I think they went drop
- 52:08Speaker 4: to five or six.
- 52:10Speaker 2: And I think that's as much a Dante Moore over
- 52:14Speaker 2: Arch Manning and Steve Sarkeesian thing, but it's interesting, like,
- 52:17Speaker 2: Even Dan Lanning gets the benefit of the doubt more
- 52:19Speaker 2: than Steve Sarkeesian. But also, with Oregon, I don't think
- 52:23Speaker 2: enough people pay attention. And so they just, you know,
- 52:25Speaker 2: it is what it is. Right. There's no stakes for losing.
- 52:29Speaker 2: They're shiny, so they're fine. I'm distracted by the shininess
- 52:34Speaker 2: of Dan Lanning. And so, of course, he's great. I mean,
- 52:38Speaker 2: how many national championships has he won? Like six?
- 52:40Speaker 4: Well, he won a couple at did he win any
- 52:43Speaker 4: at Georgia?
- 52:44Speaker 2: He did, right?
- 52:45Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 52:45Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 52:45Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 52:46Speaker 4: He won it. He won it. He won it.
- 52:47Speaker 1: He won it as a DC at Georgia, but yeah, not, not,
- 52:50Speaker 1: not yet.
- 52:51Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 52:52Speaker 6: Sorry.
- 52:54Speaker 4: We regret the error.
- 52:56Speaker 1: Speaking of DCs, let's talk for a minute about Will
- 52:58Speaker 1: Muschamp because Ohio state has a new offensive coordinator. Texas
- 53:01Speaker 1: has a new defensive coordinator in Will Muschamp. And, you know,
- 53:04Speaker 1: we've talked about how Texas has defended Jeremiah Smith the
- 53:07Speaker 1: last couple of years, and it's worked in terms of
- 53:09Speaker 1: limiting Jeremiah Smith, but they haven't won either of the
- 53:11Speaker 1: games yet.
- 53:12Speaker 4: But neither of those is really on the defense either.
- 53:15Speaker 1: So does Will Muschamp kind of continue the Pete Butkowski approach?
- 53:20Speaker 1: Because it seems like that would sort of go against
- 53:23Speaker 1: what he's traditionally done. And if you made a change,
- 53:26Speaker 1: it feels like that might be indicative of you want
- 53:28Speaker 1: to do something different.
- 53:30Speaker 3: I'm leaning towards this does not look like what they
- 53:33Speaker 3: did with Butkowski.
- 53:36Speaker 2: It's not Muschamp. He's an agent of chaos. He's a
- 53:38Speaker 2: man guy.
- 53:40Speaker 3: And it just doesn't feel to me like he's going
- 53:42Speaker 3: to switch things up because of this one guy. He's very, boy,
- 53:45Speaker 3: I'm deep, deep diving here, but a really prideful guy
- 53:48Speaker 3: like Coach Boom.
- 53:49Speaker 2: Like, this is how we do it. We're going to
- 53:51Speaker 2: do it our way. And I just I just don't
- 53:54Speaker 2: think that we're going to see that. And Steve Sarkeesian
- 53:56Speaker 2: has brought him in to be that.
- 53:58Speaker 8: Right.
- 53:58Speaker 2: He's going to bring him in to be somebody else.
- 54:00Speaker 2: So it's like, do what you do. Come on in.
- 54:03Speaker 2: And it's been a while since that has worked for him, though.
- 54:06Speaker 3: Yes.
- 54:07Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 54:07Speaker 2: I don't have a great deal of confidence. It was surprising.
- 54:10Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and what's interesting is you get really high
- 54:13Speaker 1: variance when you get into, you want to get a
- 54:15Speaker 1: little more aggressive, like the George Costanza, you want to
- 54:18Speaker 1: get crazy.
- 54:19Speaker 4: Let's get crazy.
- 54:19Speaker 1: Like that's, you get real high variance there because you
- 54:22Speaker 1: can hit big plays on offense. You can have a
- 54:25Speaker 1: turnover for a time. I mean, they had a scoop
- 54:27Speaker 1: and score touchdown last week against Texas state. They had
- 54:30Speaker 1: an interception against Texas state. You can get, that's, that's
- 54:33Speaker 1: where games swing hugely. I mean, go back two years
- 54:36Speaker 1: to the cotton bowl. Ohio state forces a stupid score
- 54:39Speaker 1: touchdown with Jack Sawyer and boom, all of a sudden
- 54:41Speaker 1: you go from Texas about to tie the game to
- 54:43Speaker 1: Ohio state has a two touchdown lead.
- 54:44Speaker 2: But I also think Ryan Biles is a guy who
- 54:46Speaker 2: was a chaos agent. So he is a shark in
- 54:49Speaker 2: those waters and he operates just fine. Football finds him.
- 54:52Speaker 2: He finds the football and he's like, he likes a
- 54:55Speaker 2: party and Texas defense maybe, maybe as a party for him.
- 54:58Speaker 2: And of course he's got some emotions going into this
- 55:01Speaker 2: game because he's from central Ohio and, Ohio State offers,
- 55:04Speaker 2: so I'm sure he's fired up about this one. He's
- 55:07Speaker 2: a guy that they can attack with. If they don't,
- 55:12Speaker 2: then they're not using him correctly.
- 55:13Speaker 4: Do we need to take one step that way?
- 55:15Speaker 1: We're going to take one step that way.
- 55:18Speaker 2: I was getting dry.
- 55:23Speaker 4: How about that? Does that work?
- 55:26Speaker 3: Rasheem Miles has no reason to be irritated about being
- 55:29Speaker 3: recruited by Ohio State.
- 55:30Speaker 2: Texas didn't recruit him either. No.
- 55:32Speaker 1: Right.
- 55:32Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 55:33Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 55:33Speaker 1: I mean, he ended up at Pitt because he had
- 55:35Speaker 1: offers from, because he was a tweener and a guy
- 55:37Speaker 1: that had a ceiling and that's not, I mean, Ohio
- 55:39Speaker 1: State can't take all those guys.
- 55:41Speaker 4: There's way more of them than Ohio State can take.
- 55:43Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And now he has had a heck of
- 55:46Speaker 1: a career at Pitt and earned a bigger role and
- 55:50Speaker 1: a bigger, you know, a bigger spot in the college
- 55:52Speaker 1: football pecking order.
- 55:53Speaker 2: Who was the last tweener that actually like worked out
- 55:56Speaker 2: for like Brendan White had some good moments and don't
- 55:59Speaker 2: say Sonny Stiles.
- 56:01Speaker 4: Is that because it goes against your point?
- 56:04Speaker 2: We all knew what he was going to be.
- 56:06Speaker 4: That's true. He didn't feel like he always knew what
- 56:08Speaker 4: he was going to be.
- 56:09Speaker 2: He said, I know I'll be eventually a linebacker once
- 56:12Speaker 2: Jim Knowles gets done playing me at safety. But who
- 56:15Speaker 2: was the guy that signed with Northwestern and then transferred
- 56:19Speaker 2: to Ohio State and then like went back to Northwestern?
- 56:21Speaker 4: Another guy.
- 56:22Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 56:22Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 56:22Speaker 2: Nigel Glover.
- 56:24Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 56:24Speaker 2: You know, you take a flyer because now you've got
- 56:26Speaker 2: more room and it's like, it didn't work.
- 56:29Speaker 8: So.
- 56:32Speaker 1: And just for those of you who are just joining us,
- 56:34Speaker 1: because I see our numbers picking up again, we are
- 56:36Speaker 1: waiting on the Buckeyes.
- 56:37Speaker 4: They should be here in just a little bit.
- 56:39Speaker 1: We are just kind of standing by, I'm guessing, 10
- 56:41Speaker 1: minutes or so at this point. I have lost track.
- 56:44Speaker 1: I lost track of when we were told 45 minutes,
- 56:46Speaker 1: but it was quite a while ago.
- 56:47Speaker 2: Yeah, the original 45 minutes, we'd be hitting like in
- 56:50Speaker 2: four minutes. But then 15 minutes after that, we were
- 56:53Speaker 2: told another 45. Well, yeah.
- 56:54Speaker 3: OK, so.
- 56:56Speaker 2: We're standing by 15 to 45.
- 56:58Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say within within 10 to 30 minutes
- 57:02Speaker 1: or so, give or take. Yeah, this is college football season.
- 57:06Speaker 1: Welcome to welcome to the unpredictably unpredictability.
- 57:09Speaker 4: You're regretting your decision.
- 57:11Speaker 1: How are you enjoying your life? Life standing outside hotels?
- 57:14Speaker 1: Is it as glamorous as you dreamed it would be?
- 57:16Speaker 2: I wouldn't trade it for the world, man. Who would
- 57:18Speaker 2: pass up this opportunity?
- 57:20Speaker 1: Well, you know, one of the things that makes it
- 57:22Speaker 1: nice is you know it's coming tomorrow and you're not
- 57:24Speaker 1: standing outside a hotel tomorrow. Unless something goes terribly wrong,
- 57:26Speaker 1: you're not standing outside a hotel tomorrow afternoon.
- 57:28Speaker 2: Fire alarm at three in the morning.
- 57:31Speaker 3: We got on Tony's charm, got us on the field
- 57:34Speaker 3: at DKR. That wasn't like, everybody's allowed to come in
- 57:37Speaker 3: or if you have a credential, you can come in.
- 57:39Speaker 3: That was Tony Gurman schmoozing the guy.
- 57:42Speaker 2: At the gate. Now, if this is not legal, please
- 57:44Speaker 2: don't put me out.
- 57:45Speaker 4: We did have our credentials. And I asked. Yeah.
- 57:51Speaker 1: Kyle wants to say, Kyle says nothing is truly known
- 57:53Speaker 1: about either team. They both kept it vanilla on purpose.
- 57:55Speaker 1: We will know tomorrow. That's, I think that's a perfectly
- 57:58Speaker 1: reasonable take. That is in, in the, uh, Have they
- 58:01Speaker 1: taken don't suck world? That is not going to get
- 58:06Speaker 1: people real excited, but that might be the most honest
- 58:08Speaker 1: take about tomorrow's game that you could have. Because we
- 58:12Speaker 1: did score predictions, and I went back and forth four
- 58:14Speaker 1: or five times this week about which team I thought
- 58:16Speaker 1: was going to win.
- 58:17Speaker 2: Same. And earlier in the week, even leading up from
- 58:20Speaker 2: last week, I was expecting myself to take Texas just
- 58:22Speaker 2: because they should win. They're favored. It's at home. I
- 58:26Speaker 2: am a person who gives so much weight to the
- 58:28Speaker 2: home field advantage. Ohio State has Julian Sands, and that's
- 58:33Speaker 2: where I am right now. Julian Sands, Jeremiah Smith. Whether
- 58:36Speaker 2: they can run the ball or not, they haven't needed
- 58:38Speaker 2: to run the ball the last two times to beat Texas. Now,
- 58:40Speaker 2: I think they'll have to score more than they did
- 58:42Speaker 2: in the previous two games against Texas because I think
- 58:44Speaker 2: Texas will score more. I don't think 14 points is
- 58:48Speaker 2: going to get this done. 28 should get it done.
- 58:56Speaker 2: But that was only 21 from the offense. So 21
- 58:58Speaker 2: from the offense may or may not get it done.
- 59:00Speaker 2: But if you want to throw a scoop and score
- 59:01Speaker 2: in there, I will go ahead and whoever gets the
- 59:04Speaker 2: scoop and score in this one, maybe go ahead and
- 59:06Speaker 2: chop them up as a winner. It might be the
- 59:08Speaker 2: same kind of percentage as the punt block, the 90%
- 59:10Speaker 2: win rate.
- 59:13Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the old Urban Meyer stat.
- 59:14Speaker 1: If you block a punt, you win the game 90%
- 59:16Speaker 1: of the time.
- 59:17Speaker 2: So this is going to be a Chris Henry game,
- 59:18Speaker 2: blocking that punt. It could be.
- 59:20Speaker 1: I mean, he's someone that you feel like Chris Henry's
- 59:23Speaker 1: going to have an impact on this game one way
- 59:25Speaker 1: or another.
- 59:26Speaker 2: I feel that way. I was looking at some of
- 59:28Speaker 2: the prop bets, and his His expectations were higher than
- 59:31Speaker 2: Brandon Ennis's in terms of, like, touchdown catch and things
- 59:34Speaker 2: like that. He's going to make an impact at some point,
- 59:38Speaker 2: and it wouldn't shock me if it's tonight. It won't
- 59:41Speaker 2: be tonight. It may be tomorrow night.
- 59:43Speaker 3: Does it feel like specials of some sort might make
- 59:46Speaker 3: an impact? This will be our first big game since
- 59:50Speaker 3: Robbie Disher has entered into the full year. I think
- 59:54Speaker 3: he's been tasked with, you know, We're no longer going
- 59:57Speaker 3: to give away these special teams, these.
- 59:59Speaker 2: Yards, these good yards. We're going to go ahead and
- 1:00:02Speaker 2: get after it.
- 1:00:03Speaker 4: We're going to get after it in the return game
- 1:00:05Speaker 4: and get after it.
- 1:00:06Speaker 2: All right. Awesome field goal kicker.
- 1:00:08Speaker 4: Good luck, guys.
- 1:00:10Speaker 2: How about this? Can I call my shot? You know
- 1:00:11Speaker 2: how Brandon Innes is back here on kickoff returns with
- 1:00:13Speaker 2: Legend Bay? Brandon Innes can throw the ball. If one
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: of those kicks goes Brandon Innes' way or it's over
- 1:00:22Speaker 2: one side, he's going to go over there, and they've
- 1:00:24Speaker 2: got this call. They've got it ready. Texas, if you're watching,
- 1:00:26Speaker 2: turn off and mute yourself. But Brandon Innes is going
- 1:00:29Speaker 2: to throw the ball back across the field to legend.
- 1:00:33Speaker 2: We'll have some blocking set up for him.
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: I'm glad the bold prediction show is over.
- 1:00:38Speaker 4: I'm glad we're in the books. I like that one
- 1:00:40Speaker 4: a lot.
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: And that requires a very specific set of circumstances and
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: the right point of the game. And you don't need
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: to do that if you're up 10 points. But if
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: you're down and it's late, yeah, maybe you're looking to
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: do something a little creative. Yeah, that's certainly an interesting suggestion.
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: As much as we've talked about Legend Bay throwing the football.
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: Brandon Innes was a high school quarterback.
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: People keep wondering why Jock is staring off into the
- 1:01:04Speaker 1: middle distance. That's where the team is going to be
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: coming from. So we're keeping an eye on... There's a
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: big bus. There's a big bus. They're going to come
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: more buses.
- 1:01:13Speaker 6: Yes.
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: If you see us looking off that way... That's why
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: we're keeping an eye on where the team is going
- 1:01:18Speaker 1: to be coming from. Doreen says, love being underdogs. And
- 1:01:21Speaker 1: that's something, Jeff, they don't get to do very often.
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: It is fun.
- 1:01:25Speaker 4: I love it.
- 1:01:26Speaker 3: It's just not ever part of the discussion. But, yeah,
- 1:01:30Speaker 3: being an underdog, what is it, the first time since
- 1:01:32Speaker 3: 23 or something? I think since the Michigan game in 2023.
- 1:01:36Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah. It never happens.
- 1:01:38Speaker 3: It's a lot more fun because it is so rare.
- 1:01:41Speaker 3: Maybe the Missouri game because there's no pal McCord in
- 1:01:43Speaker 3: the team.
- 1:01:44Speaker 4: I think they were still favored in that. I think
- 1:01:46Speaker 4: it was close.
- 1:01:47Speaker 2: Please don't interrupt, John.
- 1:01:49Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:01:52Speaker 2: Lincoln Cain Hall is playing tonight, guys.
- 1:01:53Speaker 4: Matter of fact. Playing tonight.
- 1:01:55Speaker 2: We're going to get everybody to watch Lincoln tonight. Villanova.
- 1:01:58Speaker 2: Louisville Villanova. But I lost my train of thought.
- 1:02:01Speaker 8: I'm sorry.
- 1:02:02Speaker 4: He does that to me, too.
- 1:02:03Speaker 2: What were we talking about?
- 1:02:04Speaker 8: Oh, Doreen.
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: Doreen, yes. Underdogs.
- 1:02:07Speaker 2: Being an underdog. Yeah.
- 1:02:08Speaker 3: Underdog.
- 1:02:09Speaker 8: Yes.
- 1:02:09Speaker 4: It's fun.
- 1:02:10Speaker 3: I think the team likes it, too. You get that
- 1:02:13Speaker 3: level of disrespect, fires everybody up. But honestly, this game
- 1:02:18Speaker 3: to me is a coin flip game. Either way, whatever,
- 1:02:23Speaker 3: the line doesn't really matter. It's a pick-em with one
- 1:02:26Speaker 3: and a half points, which is not even home field advantage.
- 1:02:28Speaker 3: So essentially, they still think Ohio State's the better team,
- 1:02:32Speaker 3: as do I. I think the Buckeyes are going to
- 1:02:34Speaker 3: win the game.
- 1:02:35Speaker 4: Doreen also wants to know, is Juck on Bucs merch
- 1:02:38Speaker 4: vintage now?
- 1:02:39Speaker 2: No, no, no. Well, vintage is at least 25 years old.
- 1:02:43Speaker 4: Got the right sleeve right there. Show him the right sleeve.
- 1:02:47Speaker 2: Yeah, it's still there.
- 1:02:47Speaker 4: He's still repping. Don't worry. Don't worry. He can multitask.
- 1:02:52Speaker 2: Doreen made her own Juck on Bucks merch.
- 1:02:54Speaker 4: Before there were any, but it still exists.
- 1:02:56Speaker 3: Bootlegging.
- 1:02:56Speaker 2: You should sue her.
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: Sitting outside the Juck concert selling bootleg t-shirts.
- 1:03:03Speaker 4: I love it. I love it. New business bottle just dropped.
- 1:03:08Speaker 2: I don't know. I remember I was at the first
- 1:03:12Speaker 2: three-peat parade at the for the chicago bowls and um
- 1:03:17Speaker 2: you know the the super fans were up there like
- 1:03:19Speaker 2: uh george went and whatever was up on stage and
- 1:03:21Speaker 2: they were saying make sure you buy the the three-peat
- 1:03:24Speaker 2: stuff from the bootleggers because pat riley had trademarked three-peat
- 1:03:29Speaker 2: so anything that was bought from the official shop was
- 1:03:31Speaker 2: he was going to get paid for it so make
- 1:03:33Speaker 2: sure you buy from the bootleggers and um make sure
- 1:03:36Speaker 2: you buy no don't make sure you buy from the
- 1:03:39Speaker 2: bootleggers buy from anybody But for Doreen, just to Venmo
- 1:03:44Speaker 2: him a little bit.
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm going through the questions. Les says it's going
- 1:03:53Speaker 1: to be 118 degrees on the field tomorrow. You guys
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: are going to be gassed before halftime.
- 1:03:57Speaker 2: I'll be fine. I'll be in the press box.
- 1:03:58Speaker 4: Yeah, these guys will be in the press box.
- 1:04:00Speaker 2: Tom, we're talking to. Tony and I will be in
- 1:04:02Speaker 2: the AC.
- 1:04:03Speaker 3: Matter of fact, brand-new press box has only been used
- 1:04:05Speaker 3: one time last week at the Texas State game. So
- 1:04:08Speaker 3: they broke it in, and now we get to experience
- 1:04:11Speaker 3: this plush, New press box, not a sideline view. It's
- 1:04:15Speaker 3: a catty corner view, which I'm told they're doing at
- 1:04:18Speaker 3: a lot of new stadiums now to keep those primo
- 1:04:21Speaker 3: seats for paying customers, which makes sense, but it gives
- 1:04:24Speaker 3: us a different view of the game, which is fine
- 1:04:27Speaker 3: because we've also got our computers to see the side view.
- 1:04:29Speaker 2: And then we're looking out here. I kind of like it.
- 1:04:31Speaker 4: We get multiple views. Yeah.
- 1:04:33Speaker 2: But, yes, hydrates?
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: Yes, and you guys have seen me drinking lots of
- 1:04:38Speaker 1: electrolytes today. I have a big cup of water right
- 1:04:41Speaker 1: down there. We hit, I saw people talking about all
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: the different places we should go. We hit, we hit taco.
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: We did not have our plan. A did not come
- 1:04:48Speaker 1: to fruition today.
- 1:04:49Speaker 4: We're going to give that a shot tomorrow or B
- 1:04:52Speaker 4: or B plan.
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: BBQ did not come to fruition today. We hit up
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: one of my favorite places, and this is a little
- 1:04:57Speaker 1: bit off radar. The, the South Texas folks will know
- 1:05:00Speaker 1: about taco Palenque. It is not a, it is not
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: a place that most people will have heard of. Cause
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: it is not in DFW at all. I think they
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: just got one in Houston. They had one star painted
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: on the wall. around Houston at the place we went to.
- 1:05:13Speaker 4: But yes, it is.
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: It's, it's fast food Mexican, but it is extremely good.
- 1:05:19Speaker 1: So that is worth a worth exploring while you're here.
- 1:05:22Speaker 2: We're hoping, planning to do barbecue tomorrow.
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: Yes. Yes.
- 1:05:26Speaker 4: That was, that was the plan today. And then it
- 1:05:30Speaker 4: pulled up to one place and went, well, we're not
- 1:05:31Speaker 4: waiting in that line and went to a different place. Well,
- 1:05:33Speaker 4: we're not waiting in that line. This is ridiculous.
- 1:05:36Speaker 2: The lights are on the block.
- 1:05:37Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:05:37Speaker 2: Yeah. But, I guess that tells you it's good or
- 1:05:40Speaker 2: it's trendy or it's just a good slow service.
- 1:05:44Speaker 1: Yes.
- 1:05:45Speaker 2: Are you going to be like on the sideline tomorrow?
- 1:05:48Speaker 2: You're going to have like the IV, you're just going
- 1:05:49Speaker 2: to be taking it around with you.
- 1:05:51Speaker 4: The meat sweats and the actual sweats all at the
- 1:05:54Speaker 4: same time.
- 1:05:55Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:05:55Speaker 4: I'm going to, I really have to.
- 1:05:57Speaker 2: Hide the shoulder belts with the water bottles in there.
- 1:06:01Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, like a Rambo belt, but instead of grenades,
- 1:06:03Speaker 1: it's just going to be those little bottles of water.
- 1:06:05Speaker 4: Yeah. I, We actually have to stop somewhere on our
- 1:06:08Speaker 4: way back to the hotel. I have something I need
- 1:06:10Speaker 4: to buy for tomorrow. Terry wants to know, is Texas
- 1:06:13Speaker 4: heat as humid as Ohio? It's not hot right now,
- 1:06:17Speaker 4: and it was not as humid. It was hot, but
- 1:06:19Speaker 4: it was not as humid as it was at home.
- 1:06:22Speaker 2: It's not super bad.
- 1:06:23Speaker 3: First trip to Texas, I was expecting much drier heat.
- 1:06:28Speaker 3: It was humid, not as humid as it is in
- 1:06:31Speaker 3: Ohio when it's this many degrees.
- 1:06:33Speaker 2: But certainly it was a little sticky in the air, yeah.
- 1:06:36Speaker 2: And it's like when you open the oven and you
- 1:06:39Speaker 2: just like, when you come out, like even if you're
- 1:06:42Speaker 2: in the car and somebody opens the door, it just
- 1:06:45Speaker 2: runs right in door.
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: And then the wind picks up and it's like, Oh,
- 1:06:49Speaker 1: now we're in a convection oven. Okay.
- 1:06:51Speaker 4: That's good.
- 1:06:52Speaker 2: It's 84 right now. The rain pulled some things down.
- 1:06:55Speaker 2: The sun is down ish or behind some clouds.
- 1:06:57Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:06:58Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:06:58Speaker 4: It is.
- 1:06:59Speaker 1: It is generally pretty pleasant out here. I'm not sure
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: we would have made it to an hour and a
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: half or an hour if it was what we what
- 1:07:07Speaker 1: we experienced if it was better planned well if we
- 1:07:09Speaker 1: had eight i don't fly the plane tony i don't
- 1:07:13Speaker 1: fly the planes uh with that attitude they the uh
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: we were on the field at dkr earlier and eight
- 1:07:20Speaker 1: minutes in i shot an eight minute video like a
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: behind the scenes walk around the field kind of video
- 1:07:25Speaker 1: and by the time that was eight and a half
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: minutes and by the time it was done it said
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: uh iphone needs to cool down it's like all right
- 1:07:31Speaker 1: well Guess the video is not going to go nine
- 1:07:34Speaker 1: and a half minutes. I think we're going to wrap
- 1:07:35Speaker 1: it up right now. So, yeah, it was toasty here earlier.
- 1:07:40Speaker 1: Pleasant now.
- 1:07:41Speaker 4: It's supposed to be pretty warm again tomorrow.
- 1:07:43Speaker 2: Your iPhone turned into a hot apple pie?
- 1:07:45Speaker 1: Yes, yes. Lou says, Arch is an anomaly. Throws a
- 1:07:48Speaker 1: great deep ball, but struggles with the short and medium throws.
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: And that's really interesting because the stuff that you think
- 1:07:53Speaker 1: of is like, oh, well, you hit the easy things.
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: You hit the crossers, that kind of stuff. He's like
- 1:07:58Speaker 1: 50% on crossing routes. What?
- 1:08:02Speaker 2: Last year, he would just throw some stuff into the ground.
- 1:08:04Speaker 2: I thought it was okay against Texas State. We'll see
- 1:08:06Speaker 2: more when there's more pressure. Last year, you couldn't trust
- 1:08:10Speaker 2: him to hit anybody, even with time. He just was off.
- 1:08:14Speaker 2: I don't know what you've seen lately.
- 1:08:16Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't really have a beat on what I
- 1:08:20Speaker 3: think he's going to be this year. I think it's
- 1:08:22Speaker 3: going to be a different arch than we've seen before.
- 1:08:25Speaker 3: But he's right to his point. That's kind of what
- 1:08:27Speaker 3: we saw towards the end of last year. where there
- 1:08:29Speaker 3: was certainly some good stuff. He's a great thrower of
- 1:08:31Speaker 3: the deep ball, which doesn't really put my mind at ease.
- 1:08:34Speaker 3: But yeah, the shorter stuff, yeah, he has struggled with
- 1:08:37Speaker 3: for sure. The touch passes, he's not been great with.
- 1:08:40Speaker 3: But all in all, when you add it all up
- 1:08:42Speaker 3: with the running and everything else, he's a really good quarterback.
- 1:08:45Speaker 2: I think he's going to be even better this year. Yeah,
- 1:08:47Speaker 2: there's no reason to think he's not going to progress
- 1:08:48Speaker 2: and be better this year. Still waiting to see that
- 1:08:51Speaker 2: number one pick. But quarterbacks get, and not even overhyped,
- 1:08:54Speaker 2: they just get pushed up the rankings because they are quarterbacks.
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: And I think The fact that he's a great draw
- 1:09:00Speaker 1: of the default and the fact that he can use
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: his legs and be a little bit of an agent
- 1:09:03Speaker 1: of chaos on the edge, extending plays or picking up
- 1:09:06Speaker 1: a first down, scramble drills, that's a lot to me
- 1:09:10Speaker 1: like the Will Muschamp, you know, boy, you're going to
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: have big plays one way or another.
- 1:09:15Speaker 4: All of this increases the variance in this.
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: Game where you know, if it's just, well, you're going
- 1:09:19Speaker 1: to have to run the ball and you're going to
- 1:09:20Speaker 1: run the ball for four and a half yards to carry.
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: Like I can tell you what's going to happen if
- 1:09:23Speaker 1: you're able to run the ball consistently, but not get
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: a bunch of huge plays when you're hitting potentially huge
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: plays on offense and also either hitting or giving up
- 1:09:31Speaker 1: huge plays on defense. That, that means you get, you
- 1:09:35Speaker 1: could have any number with, with the same basic teams,
- 1:09:39Speaker 1: you could get a huge spectrum, broad spectrum of outcomes
- 1:09:43Speaker 1: in terms of, Oh, Texas wins by 10 Ohio state
- 1:09:45Speaker 1: wins by 14. It's a field goal at the gun.
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: Like it, That, to me, makes this a really exciting
- 1:09:51Speaker 1: and interesting game.
- 1:09:53Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:09:53Speaker 4: Are we giving scores yet? Well, we have time. We're
- 1:09:56Speaker 4: monitoring the situation. All right. We got a little more time.
- 1:09:59Speaker 4: When the team is getting here, we'll start turning towards
- 1:10:02Speaker 4: the scores.
- 1:10:02Speaker 3: No, I'm going to take your point because my score
- 1:10:05Speaker 3: is a little off the beaten path.
- 1:10:06Speaker 1: All right.
- 1:10:06Speaker 4: Well, why don't you give your score right now? 45.
- 1:10:10Speaker 2: So, I think the Buckeyes are going to win this
- 1:10:12Speaker 2: game 28-17.
- 1:10:13Speaker 4: Okay.
- 1:10:14Speaker 3: More than a 10-point win for Ohio State for a
- 1:10:17Speaker 3: lot of that reason. I think we're looking at some turnovers.
- 1:10:19Speaker 3: I think we're looking at some variance. We're looking at
- 1:10:21Speaker 3: Ohio State clicking on all cylinders on the offensive side
- 1:10:25Speaker 3: of the ball for as much as you are going
- 1:10:27Speaker 3: to against the defense that's this good. And I think
- 1:10:30Speaker 3: the Buckeyes get it done handily in a game that
- 1:10:33Speaker 3: maybe Texas might even have to come up.
- 1:10:37Speaker 2: To get to that 17. I was going to ask,
- 1:10:39Speaker 2: is this a 28-10 or is this a 21-17 where
- 1:10:40Speaker 2: Ohio State puts the nail in the coffin? I think
- 1:10:43Speaker 2: this is a secretive.
- 1:10:44Speaker 4: Texas fan base watching this game. Ooh.
- 1:10:47Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 1:10:49Speaker 2: Not good. We're at the fight getting out of there.
- 1:10:51Speaker 2: The good news is the fans will be gone long
- 1:10:53Speaker 2: before we will.
- 1:10:55Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll be around.
- 1:10:56Speaker 1: And just so before we get into this next question,
- 1:10:58Speaker 1: we'll give you a little bit of a heads up
- 1:10:59Speaker 1: on what's coming on Saturday. We're planning to drop a
- 1:11:04Speaker 1: segment we did at Whataburger. That will be coming out
- 1:11:06Speaker 1: on Saturday morning on our YouTube channel. Trying the famous
- 1:11:10Speaker 1: Texas hamburger chain. We're going to be at DKR.com. At
- 1:11:15Speaker 1: some point relatively early on Saturday afternoon. I cannot give
- 1:11:18Speaker 1: you a specific time yet, not because I'm being cagey.
- 1:11:21Speaker 1: We don't know exactly when we're going to be able
- 1:11:22Speaker 1: to get into the stadium. As soon as we can
- 1:11:24Speaker 1: get into the stadium, we're going to be in the stadium,
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: and we'll try and give you sort of an extended
- 1:11:28Speaker 1: run at a pregame show.
- 1:11:29Speaker 2: I'll talk our way.
- 1:11:31Speaker 1: Tony, we'll schmooze our way in. You heard it here first,
- 1:11:34Speaker 1: or I guess second. First there and then second now.
- 1:11:36Speaker 4: So, yeah, we'll see.
- 1:11:38Speaker 1: Plan on– this would be a great time to remind you,
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- 1:11:56Speaker 4: Because you do not want to miss the pregame show tomorrow.
- 1:11:59Speaker 4: We'll be in DKR.
- 1:12:00Speaker 1: You'll be a good sense for... what's going on there.
- 1:12:02Speaker 1: I may try and shoot another behind the scenes video there.
- 1:12:05Speaker 1: Cause there are people who said, well, why didn't you
- 1:12:07Speaker 1: show us this? It's like, well, I didn't know that now. I,
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: now I know what I'm looking for. Now I've been there.
- 1:12:11Speaker 1: So I may do another one tomorrow. Maybe we'll drop
- 1:12:13Speaker 1: that in the pregame show tomorrow. We'll see how that goes.
- 1:12:15Speaker 1: But yeah, so we'd make, that will be early Saturday
- 1:12:18Speaker 1: afternoon and then we'll probably go hour or two.
- 1:12:23Speaker 4: We'll see. We'll see how the day goes.
- 1:12:25Speaker 1: We'll see what our access is like as Chuck is
- 1:12:28Speaker 1: learning everything on the road and covering the.
- 1:12:31Speaker 4: Teams is, well, it depends. We have a plan. As
- 1:12:35Speaker 4: they say, college football media has plans and then God, God,
- 1:12:38Speaker 4: you make plans and then God laughs.
- 1:12:39Speaker 1: That's how the, that's how the old saying goes. Shane
- 1:12:41Speaker 1: Falco says, will Matty P earn his money in this one?
- 1:12:44Speaker 1: This does feel just like a game where Matt Patricia
- 1:12:47Speaker 1: is going to have to be a little more creative
- 1:12:51Speaker 1: last year. You could kind of push the Arbel Reese
- 1:12:53Speaker 1: button and the sunny style button and the Caleb Downs
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: button this year.
- 1:12:56Speaker 4: It feels like this is one where Matt Patricia is
- 1:12:58Speaker 4: going to have to be a little more creative.
- 1:13:00Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, the whole season feels like this is a
- 1:13:03Speaker 3: Matt Patricia earn your money season.
- 1:13:06Speaker 2: When we talk about the talent that you.
- 1:13:08Speaker 3: Had last year, it was kind of just set it
- 1:13:11Speaker 3: and forget it with the lineup and then smother you
- 1:13:14Speaker 3: because everybody was in the right place every time and
- 1:13:16Speaker 3: good enough to get everything done with relative, you know,
- 1:13:19Speaker 3: basic fronts. And now when we look at all the
- 1:13:23Speaker 3: different packages that we're going to have to see to
- 1:13:25Speaker 3: kind of keep this defense elite, all the different looks
- 1:13:28Speaker 3: that he's going to have to give, We're going to
- 1:13:30Speaker 3: see more simulated pressure. It's just going to be a
- 1:13:33Speaker 3: lot more new stuff that we're not used to seeing.
- 1:13:37Speaker 3: I think we just might see that right.
- 1:13:38Speaker 4: Off the rip.
- 1:13:40Speaker 2: It is going to be interesting because he has all
- 1:13:41Speaker 2: of these parts that he wants to utilize. It's a
- 1:13:45Speaker 2: different skill set. He spent all of these months figuring
- 1:13:48Speaker 2: out what these guys do, what they do best, how
- 1:13:51Speaker 2: he can make them part of the defense. If somebody
- 1:13:54Speaker 2: is good at something, That's what they did at New England.
- 1:13:58Speaker 2: Let's get them to do that. And it's Ohio State's athletes,
- 1:14:03Speaker 2: so they can do something. Now, how effective, we'll find out.
- 1:14:07Speaker 2: Texas is still going to be blocking and all that
- 1:14:09Speaker 2: good stuff. But I'm looking forward to seeing a different–
- 1:14:14Speaker 2: it's going to be a different kind of defense. We'll
- 1:14:17Speaker 2: see if it's more attacking or whatever because you can
- 1:14:19Speaker 2: just play so much base and not be crazy with
- 1:14:22Speaker 2: the attacking defense. Last year. Here, I think they have
- 1:14:24Speaker 2: to do some more attacking and see what happens after that.
- 1:14:28Speaker 2: And then maybe you call it back a little bit.
- 1:14:30Speaker 2: But I think you have to be a little bit aggressive.
- 1:14:32Speaker 1: Josh wants to know if the team has arrived yet. No,
- 1:14:36Speaker 1: that will be probably the end of the show when
- 1:14:38Speaker 1: the team arrives. We'll let you see the team arrive,
- 1:14:40Speaker 1: let you hear from Ryan Day, and then we'll kind
- 1:14:41Speaker 1: of wrap it up at that point.
- 1:14:43Speaker 2: You'll know the team is arriving by the smile on
- 1:14:45Speaker 2: Chuck's face that this show is almost done.
- 1:14:51Speaker 1: They are going to be here probably in the next
- 1:14:53Speaker 1: 10 to 15 minutes. We got a text from the
- 1:14:56Speaker 1: OSU SIP that it probably sounds like they're about 10
- 1:14:59Speaker 1: minutes out now.
- 1:15:00Speaker 4: So we are in the homestretch. Don't worry.
- 1:15:03Speaker 1: Geiger Lee wants to know if the Texas backup quarterback
- 1:15:05Speaker 1: has been tested. He played a little bit last week
- 1:15:07Speaker 1: and looked good, but not. He's been tested in the
- 1:15:10Speaker 1: same way Ohio State's backup quarterbacks have been tested, which
- 1:15:13Speaker 1: is no, not really interesting.
- 1:15:16Speaker 4: Okay, so yeah.
- 1:15:17Speaker 1: And RKA91 says, Ohio State's social media just posted white
- 1:15:21Speaker 1: jerseys and gray pants for tomorrow. So what we were
- 1:15:23Speaker 1: expecting is what's going to happen. There you go.
- 1:15:27Speaker 2: Best away uniform in college football. Yeah, it's great.
- 1:15:30Speaker 1: And I think once you get a couple Buckeye stickers
- 1:15:36Speaker 1: on the helmets, the helmets look a lot better.
- 1:15:38Speaker 2: I think these are the two best away uniforms, Ohio
- 1:15:40Speaker 2: State and Texas.
- 1:15:41Speaker 4: Yeah, Texas has them. I like Texas' home uniforms.
- 1:15:45Speaker 2: I like Texas.
- 1:15:46Speaker 1: This is a good uniform matchup, just the classic uniforms
- 1:15:51Speaker 1: for both of these guys. Shane Falco wants to know,
- 1:15:53Speaker 1: if this comes down to special teams, how screwed is
- 1:15:56Speaker 1: Ohio State?
- 1:15:58Speaker 2: You know, they went and got Robbie Disher to clean
- 1:16:00Speaker 2: things up. They've got a kicker. They've got a consistent punter.
- 1:16:04Speaker 2: It doesn't do anything special, but he does what they expect,
- 1:16:07Speaker 2: so that's good. Not necessarily going to pin anybody back.
- 1:16:10Speaker 2: with a 60-yarder or anything like that. He's not going
- 1:16:12Speaker 2: to flip the field. He's just going to get to
- 1:16:15Speaker 2: 40 yards with a fair catch, and you go from there.
- 1:16:18Speaker 2: I'm interested to see what happens in the return game.
- 1:16:20Speaker 2: I know nobody likes Brandon in his returning punts, but
- 1:16:23Speaker 2: as long as he catches the ball, though he put
- 1:16:24Speaker 2: it on the ground again with the return last week,
- 1:16:27Speaker 2: but he's the most effective punt returner Iowa State has
- 1:16:30Speaker 2: had since Jalen Marshall in 2015. Now, when I say
- 1:16:33Speaker 2: most effective, we're still talking like 11 yards of return,
- 1:16:36Speaker 2: but that tells you how The bar's not high. Things
- 1:16:41Speaker 2: have been. But are you going to put anybody back
- 1:16:43Speaker 2: there that you don't trust to catch the ball? Catching
- 1:16:45Speaker 2: the ball with the punts this week is the most
- 1:16:48Speaker 2: important thing. Returns, I don't really care about right now.
- 1:16:51Speaker 3: This has been conversation on the board today over at
- 1:16:53Speaker 3: Buckeye Insiders where you can join us and get in
- 1:16:56Speaker 3: on that conversation. We have got this debate going on
- 1:17:00Speaker 3: with Brandon Innes. Should he be the guy returning punts?
- 1:17:04Speaker 3: And no, not the most dynamic guy. And I did
- 1:17:07Speaker 3: find it And I brought up how last year Ryan
- 1:17:10Speaker 3: Day was kind of getting pressed about, you know, three,
- 1:17:12Speaker 3: four games into the season. Why is this Brandon's role?
- 1:17:16Speaker 3: Not a super dynamic athlete. Isn't really busted anything. Why
- 1:17:19Speaker 3: not give someone else a shot?
- 1:17:21Speaker 2: And Ryan Day.
- 1:17:22Speaker 3: Talked about the trust factor. And then Washington was that
- 1:17:25Speaker 3: following Saturday. And he ended up with just three possessions
- 1:17:29Speaker 3: in the first half because B, I gave one up,
- 1:17:32Speaker 3: which I don't know.
- 1:17:34Speaker 2: If we've seen him lose one since to the other team.
- 1:17:38Speaker 2: And he catches it. It's just the fumble when you're
- 1:17:40Speaker 2: returning is the issue.
- 1:17:41Speaker 1: We'll just run through a couple questions here, talking about
- 1:17:46Speaker 1: the amount of fan support that Ohio State has on
- 1:17:49Speaker 1: any road game. Ohio State has the most bar and restaurants,
- 1:17:51Speaker 1: you know, like game-wide bar and restaurants outside of Ohio
- 1:17:54Speaker 1: than any college, which is true. And I know the Austin,
- 1:17:56Speaker 1: Texas Alumni Club has a weekend full of events planned.
- 1:18:01Speaker 1: Daniel says, just sold my tickets to some Buckeyes. Hope
- 1:18:04Speaker 1: they enjoy the game because they paid very well. Yeah.
- 1:18:06Speaker 4: I mean, that is, that is, it is the price
- 1:18:08Speaker 4: to get in. The price of the brick is the
- 1:18:09Speaker 4: price of the brick.
- 1:18:11Speaker 1: And so you are not, you are not going to
- 1:18:13Speaker 1: get in cheap, but if you want to get in,
- 1:18:16Speaker 1: you want to get in. Sue wants to know, are
- 1:18:18Speaker 1: all the guys healthy? So we have bits and pieces
- 1:18:22Speaker 1: of information, but we don't have, they're not next two
- 1:18:26Speaker 1: weeks from now when they're, when they're playing a big
- 1:18:28Speaker 1: 10 game, They will release an availability report on Wednesday,
- 1:18:31Speaker 1: an availability report on Thursday, an availability report on Friday,
- 1:18:33Speaker 1: and another one on Saturday. When they're not playing Big
- 1:18:36Speaker 1: Ten teams, they're not going to release. They do not
- 1:18:39Speaker 1: have to release, and they will not release any kind
- 1:18:41Speaker 1: of availability report. And we have already been told Ryan
- 1:18:44Speaker 1: Day is not going to talk about guys who are available,
- 1:18:46Speaker 1: guys who are hurt, guys who are like, don't bother asking.
- 1:18:49Speaker 1: So you're going to say, why didn't you ask about that?
- 1:18:51Speaker 1: We were specifically told he's not going to ask. So,
- 1:18:54Speaker 1: you know, what was the, the Nick Saban line?
- 1:18:58Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell you to stop asking.
- 1:19:00Speaker 1: That's, that's essentially what we've been told on injuries, which
- 1:19:03Speaker 1: is fine. If that's the policy, that's the policy. that's
- 1:19:06Speaker 1: going to be, that's going to obviously change quite a
- 1:19:08Speaker 1: bit as you get into big 10 season, but that's
- 1:19:10Speaker 1: still a couple of weeks away. The Dooley fam says,
- 1:19:17Speaker 1: I think Texas has better talent this year at almost
- 1:19:18Speaker 1: every position and OSU lost so much proven talent.
- 1:19:21Speaker 4: Does this matter?
- 1:19:23Speaker 3: Does that matter?
- 1:19:23Speaker 2: That Ohio state has lost so much talent?
- 1:19:26Speaker 1: Yes.
- 1:19:26Speaker 2: I mean, we've talked about this a little bit on
- 1:19:28Speaker 2: a podcast from yesterday that It does matter. You can
- 1:19:32Speaker 2: understand why the expectations are that Ohio State's defensively going
- 1:19:35Speaker 2: to struggle. Also, Ohio State has been recruiting very well.
- 1:19:38Speaker 2: They've coached well. They've got two NFL head coaches, basically,
- 1:19:43Speaker 2: as coordinators. Matt Patricia defensively, of course. These guys have
- 1:19:47Speaker 2: been learning from the guys that were here or have
- 1:19:51Speaker 2: been at Alabama and Florida State, big-time football. And then
- 1:19:54Speaker 2: you still have the returners, Jermaine Matthews, Devin Sanchez, Jalen McClain,
- 1:19:58Speaker 2: Peyton Pierce, guys who have been out there playing. So, like,
- 1:20:03Speaker 2: there's enough remnants there to still recognize everything as an
- 1:20:07Speaker 2: Ohio State defense. But, yeah, I mean, this is going
- 1:20:09Speaker 2: to be a step up in competition all over the
- 1:20:12Speaker 2: place for them. So I'm not expecting nine points per
- 1:20:15Speaker 2: game from the Buckeyes this year.
- 1:20:17Speaker 3: No, no, no.
- 1:20:17Speaker 2: I think there will be a step back. Does that
- 1:20:20Speaker 2: mean Texas can score twice as many points as they
- 1:20:23Speaker 2: did last week, last year against Ohio State? I mean,
- 1:20:26Speaker 2: that's what they've done the last two games, 14 points.
- 1:20:29Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:20:31Speaker 1: I'm just letting people know that the team is here
- 1:20:36Speaker 1: in just a minute. Just a minute. And you will
- 1:20:45Speaker 1: have to pull your microphone out.
- 1:20:47Speaker 4: There you go.
- 1:20:48Speaker 1: All right, so let's hop back into the live stream
- 1:20:51Speaker 1: real quick.
- 1:20:52Speaker 4: How's it going?
- 1:20:55Speaker 1: Murphy wants to know what percent chance that Bryce Underwood
- 1:20:58Speaker 1: gets pulled in tomorrow's game? That's a fascinating question.
- 1:21:01Speaker 2: Non-zero.
- 1:21:02Speaker 4: Non-zero for sure.
- 1:21:03Speaker 1: What percentage chance that Bryce Underwood gets pulled from the
- 1:21:07Speaker 1: Michigan game on Saturday against Oklahoma?
- 1:21:10Speaker 3: I don't think it's very high because I think if
- 1:21:13Speaker 3: you put Tommy Carr in in that situation, it means
- 1:21:16Speaker 3: things aren't going good and it could potentially.
- 1:21:20Speaker 2: Do more damage.
- 1:21:20Speaker 3: I think it might just take the L if you're
- 1:21:23Speaker 3: outwitting him in that circumstance. But what are the odds
- 1:21:26Speaker 3: that Bryce Underwood might play bad enough to get pulled?
- 1:21:29Speaker 3: I think they're about 75%.
- 1:21:32Speaker 2: That's a good point. And also, like, what kind of
- 1:21:33Speaker 2: practice week has he had?
- 1:21:34Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:21:34Speaker 2: What kind of practice week has Tommy Carr had? Because
- 1:21:37Speaker 2: if Carr has not had a good week, you're not
- 1:21:38Speaker 2: going to put him out there.
- 1:21:39Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:21:39Speaker 3: No.
- 1:21:40Speaker 1: And he's a true freshman, and you're asking him to
- 1:21:43Speaker 1: go out there and try and figure out a Brent
- 1:21:44Speaker 1: Venables defense. That's not– that's probably not a winning formula
- 1:21:48Speaker 1: for you. Akron Kid says, I'm so happy we have
- 1:21:51Speaker 1: speedy Devin McEwen. That is– Of all the additions that
- 1:21:55Speaker 1: they've made to the portal this year, there are a
- 1:21:57Speaker 1: few that you could say that's the biggest one. But
- 1:21:59Speaker 1: I think he's certainly in that conversation.
- 1:22:02Speaker 4: Now, I'm wondering if you guys are just going to.
- 1:22:06Speaker 1: Not if you keep talking real loudly.
- 1:22:08Speaker 2: No, I think Devin McKeown, been super impressed with him
- 1:22:11Speaker 2: in camp, wanted to see more from him following the
- 1:22:14Speaker 2: spring and into spring because we didn't see much from him.
- 1:22:16Speaker 2: But then once we saw him in camp, it was like, okay,
- 1:22:18Speaker 2: this guy's a legit dude. And then you see what
- 1:22:21Speaker 2: he does in one game as a Buckeye. Looks very good.
- 1:22:24Speaker 2: catches the ball all over the place, can run any
- 1:22:26Speaker 2: kind of route that you want, is a viable receiver.
- 1:22:30Speaker 2: Looks like an Ohio State receiver that we've seen playing
- 1:22:32Speaker 2: the position over the years.
- 1:22:34Speaker 1: Yep.
- 1:22:34Speaker 4: All right.
- 1:22:35Speaker 1: So I am feeling like a team is close enough
- 1:22:38Speaker 1: that I'm going to punch Juck's shot in here now.
- 1:22:41Speaker 4: So we have a couple different angles here for you.
- 1:22:43Speaker 4: I'm going to punch him in right there. So there
- 1:22:45Speaker 4: you go.
- 1:22:46Speaker 1: You see on the right, that is what we're looking at.
- 1:22:48Speaker 1: So when you see us staring off into the distance,
- 1:22:50Speaker 1: that is now what we're staring at.
- 1:22:51Speaker 4: Team should be coming in this way. In a matter
- 1:22:55Speaker 4: of minutes.
- 1:22:55Speaker 1: So we're sort of standing by for that. Gerald Happiness says,
- 1:22:59Speaker 1: Jock is the man, a great addition with Tony and.
- 1:23:05Speaker 4: Tom. Well done. Well done there. Okay, I got that.
- 1:23:10Speaker 1: Uh, Geiger Lee says, I like the bold prediction that
- 1:23:12Speaker 1: Tom made for a 50 plus yard field goal.
- 1:23:13Speaker 4: Even if it's missed, but long enough, I will be happy.
- 1:23:16Speaker 1: Ohio state has not made a 50 yard field goal
- 1:23:19Speaker 1: since 2019 against Northwestern, which is, I think a combination
- 1:23:23Speaker 1: of their kicking game has not been quite what it
- 1:23:25Speaker 1: probably should be, but also Ryan days as an offensive
- 1:23:29Speaker 1: guy tends to lean towards.
- 1:23:32Speaker 4: I'd rather go for it on fourth and three.
- 1:23:34Speaker 1: Uh, If I think the percentage chances of making it
- 1:23:38Speaker 1: are low enough, and he generally feels like you've got
- 1:23:42Speaker 1: better odds picking up on the first down, but they
- 1:23:46Speaker 1: have a couple legit kickers this year. Connor Hawkins, who
- 1:23:49Speaker 1: they brought over as a transfer from Baylor. Marcello Di Amiti,
- 1:23:52Speaker 1: who they brought over as a transfer from Notre Dame.
- 1:23:55Speaker 1: Di Amiti is the kickoff guy, but he also is the,
- 1:23:58Speaker 1: if they have a real long field goal, which, you know,
- 1:24:01Speaker 1: I don't think that's 50, but that might be 55, 58,
- 1:24:04Speaker 1: something like that.
- 1:24:06Speaker 4: You might see Marcello Di Amiti there.
- 1:24:09Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah. I heard, I heard a siren. Now this
- 1:24:12Speaker 1: is always, this is kind of the version of fireworks
- 1:24:15Speaker 1: or gunshots. Is that our siren or is that a
- 1:24:17Speaker 1: different siren? There is a siren coming in the background there.
- 1:24:20Speaker 4: So we'll see.
- 1:24:21Speaker 1: If that is, if that's, if that is our siren.
- 1:24:25Speaker 1: Dresher Dragon says, Devin Sanchez is going to have a
- 1:24:27Speaker 1: breakout game. He's highly motivated for this one.
- 1:24:29Speaker 2: Yeah. He's been, this has been circled on the calendar. Yep.
- 1:24:33Speaker 2: He's facing some NFL dudes and he's, he's talked it all.
- 1:24:38Speaker 2: So now you've got to back it up. I mean,
- 1:24:40Speaker 2: cornerbacks can talk all they want, but if you want
- 1:24:42Speaker 2: to be respected and appreciated as one of those guys,
- 1:24:44Speaker 2: one of those dudes, you got to back it up.
- 1:24:46Speaker 2: And he certainly believes he can do it. And, Until
- 1:24:50Speaker 2: we see him not do it, I'm going to believe
- 1:24:51Speaker 2: him too.
- 1:24:51Speaker 1: Yep. So we're going to punch the– Tony and I
- 1:24:55Speaker 1: really quickly need to give our score predictions, and we
- 1:24:57Speaker 1: can save time because for the second week in a row,
- 1:24:59Speaker 1: we predicted exactly the same score. Ohio State 27, Texas 24.
- 1:25:02Speaker 1: There you go.
- 1:25:04Speaker 4: I agree. Coach, you're here.
- 1:25:08Speaker 8: How have you talked to the team? You used that
- 1:25:09Speaker 8: word villain a lot in the past. They love to
- 1:25:11Speaker 8: be the kind of enemy territory. How do you lead
- 1:25:13Speaker 8: up to this game and let them embrace that over
- 1:25:15Speaker 8: the next 24 hours?
- 1:25:16Speaker 6: A lot of guys here have played in some big
- 1:25:18Speaker 6: games like this. That's good. Some new guys going through
- 1:25:20Speaker 6: the process. It was a good flight here. We'll kind
- 1:25:24Speaker 6: of build up tomorrow. We've got a long day ahead
- 1:25:26Speaker 6: of us.
- 1:25:27Speaker 7: What's the intrigue like when you play a big game
- 1:25:29Speaker 7: early in the season and you can think about it
- 1:25:32Speaker 7: for months and now you're here the night before?
- 1:25:34Speaker 6: It's a lot of preparation and now we've just got
- 1:25:35Speaker 6: to go play and trust our training. That's why you
- 1:25:38Speaker 6: get to play with confidence is because of all the
- 1:25:39Speaker 6: work that we put in. That's why we train the
- 1:25:42Speaker 6: way we do. That's why our preseason was physical the
- 1:25:44Speaker 6: way it was so that we can come down here
- 1:25:46Speaker 6: and go play. We got to play some depth in
- 1:25:48Speaker 6: the game, but we just got to keep swinging for
- 1:25:50Speaker 6: four quarters in this thing and come home with a victory.
- 1:25:53Speaker 6: That's what I just said. We got to get back
- 1:25:54Speaker 6: on the plane with a victory. That's the number one
- 1:25:56Speaker 6: goal here.
- 1:25:57Speaker 8: You have Arthur and Matt Patricia both on the sideline here.
- 1:26:00Speaker 8: What was that like in game one to have both coordinators?
- 1:26:02Speaker 1: Not normal.
- 1:26:03Speaker 8: How was that relationship?
- 1:26:04Speaker 9: It was good.
- 1:26:05Speaker 6: It was really good just as a start, but like
- 1:26:07Speaker 6: I told all these guys, players, coaches, we're here to
- 1:26:10Speaker 6: win games like this when you come to Ohio State,
- 1:26:11Speaker 6: so they're fired up to coaching this one. You've got
- 1:26:14Speaker 6: some true freshmen that got to play a lot, could
- 1:26:17Speaker 6: play big roles in this game.
- 1:26:18Speaker 2: What do you think is going through their mind tonight,
- 1:26:20Speaker 2: their first huge, huge college game?
- 1:26:22Speaker 4: Excited, fired up.
- 1:26:23Speaker 6: Yeah, you can see the bounce in their step. So
- 1:26:26Speaker 6: can't play the game tonight, so we'll continue to prepare
- 1:26:28Speaker 6: and get ready and build up to tomorrow because, you know,
- 1:26:31Speaker 6: you can't play the game in the morning either, you know,
- 1:26:33Speaker 6: so it'll be 6.30 local time. But we're going to
- 1:26:34Speaker 6: keep Buckeye time, so we're going to play at 7.30
- 1:26:36Speaker 6: tomorrow night. So thanks, guys.
- 1:26:37Speaker 4: Appreciate it. Appreciate it, Coach.
- 1:26:39Speaker 8: Well, that was.
- 1:26:47Speaker 9: Make it my love Love This time Can what I
- 1:27:02Speaker 9: feel Be real Well she threw away the motel key
- 1:27:10Speaker 9: I wish it never meant We could steal a car
- 1:27:26Speaker 9: and leave tonight.