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- 0:00Speaker 1: But let's face it, the college football season gets going
- 0:02Speaker 1: this week, right? Tomorrow there will be games. I don't
- 0:06Speaker 1: know what it is about Rutgers. Rutgers always plays like
- 0:09Speaker 1: the first game of the year. I don't know if
- 0:11Speaker 1: that's a thing that they worked out with the networks,
- 0:14Speaker 1: but they play the first game of the first week
- 0:18Speaker 1: of the college football season tomorrow. There will be, I think,
- 0:22Speaker 1: a couple Friday games and then full slate on Saturday. And,
- 0:26Speaker 1: of course, the Huskies will play on Sunday. the first
- 0:30Speaker 1: game of the season, the Apple.
- 0:32Speaker 2: Cup, which does continue to be weird for everyone.
- 0:37Speaker 1: Everybody's having the conversation this week about just how much
- 0:41Speaker 1: longer will this game last.
- 0:43Speaker 2: I don't think it will last much longer. I really don't.
- 0:46Speaker 1: Rick Neuheisel had a different opinion of that yesterday at
- 0:49Speaker 1: 9 o'clock. He thinks that there's a will, there's a way,
- 0:53Speaker 1: but I don't know if there's really a will. I
- 0:56Speaker 1: think that There are downsides for both programs. I don't
- 1:00Speaker 1: see Coug Nation being all that fired up for the
- 1:03Speaker 1: game anymore with the way that the sport has changed
- 1:06Speaker 1: with NIL and Transfer Portal. I mean, the moment you
- 1:09Speaker 1: get a Ryan Leaf to come to Pullman and he
- 1:13Speaker 1: shows he's one of the best quarterbacks in the nation,
- 1:15Speaker 1: how are you going to keep Ryan Leaf if you're
- 1:17Speaker 1: Washington State to help you beat the Huskies that year.
- 1:22Speaker 1: Things like that might not even exist anymore in the
- 1:26Speaker 1: sport for programs like Washington State. So certainly the future
- 1:32Speaker 1: looks a little bit grim in terms of whether or
- 1:34Speaker 1: not we're going to have many more beyond the 118th
- 1:38Speaker 1: playing of the Apple Cup. But we have it right now.
- 1:43Speaker 1: And as I've repeated numerous times on this show, maybe
- 1:46Speaker 1: this is the slot. Maybe this is where you can
- 1:50Speaker 1: save it. Um, maybe giving it the texture of being
- 1:54Speaker 1: on a Sunday night before the NFL gets underway. Um, being,
- 1:59Speaker 1: having a national platform, which let's face it, you always
- 2:03Speaker 1: had to compete with other rivalry games, uh, in the past.
- 2:06Speaker 1: So for it to be the only show in town,
- 2:08Speaker 1: maybe it gives it a spark. Um, we shall see. Um,
- 2:12Speaker 1: but it sounds like, like, uh, From a financial standpoint,
- 2:16Speaker 1: it's going to be difficult for this to continue for Washington.
- 2:20Speaker 1: And then from a competitive standpoint, it feels like it's
- 2:22Speaker 1: going to be difficult to continue for the Cougs. And
- 2:26Speaker 1: so we have Sunday that we probably should hold precious
- 2:29Speaker 1: because who knows how many more of these we.
- 2:31Speaker 2: Are going to get.
- 2:32Speaker 1: Joining us now, somebody that has played in an Apple
- 2:34Speaker 1: Cup or four. It is former Washington Huskies tight end
- 2:38Speaker 1: and current voice of the Dogs, Cam Cleland, is with
- 2:42Speaker 1: us for another college football season.
- 2:44Speaker 2: Happy football to you, sir.
- 2:47Speaker 3: Uh, happy week one. Um, I got to experience zero
- 2:51Speaker 3: week last week, which is weird in its own right
- 2:53Speaker 3: when they call it zero week, but happy week. Well,
- 2:55Speaker 3: happy apple cup.
- 2:56Speaker 4: Yes.
- 2:57Speaker 5: Chuck.
- 2:57Speaker 3: What does that mean for apple cup for you? Who's never,
- 3:00Speaker 3: I mean, how does the apple cup feel for you? Well,
- 3:02Speaker 3: you're long enough to taste it.
- 3:04Speaker 2: Well, yeah.
- 3:04Speaker 1: I mean, it's a, I mean, I, I knew from afar.
- 3:07Speaker 1: I mean, it's a great game. It's a great rivalry. And,
- 3:11Speaker 1: Different from other rivalries, but certainly once I moved here
- 3:14Speaker 1: 11 years ago, I did understand and appreciate what made
- 3:19Speaker 1: it so special. But Cam, obviously we're having that special
- 3:24Speaker 1: aspect of it get kind of have bites taken out
- 3:26Speaker 1: of the apple here.
- 3:28Speaker 2: And what makes it special.
- 3:30Speaker 1: I would ask you, as somebody that obviously played in
- 3:32Speaker 1: this numerous times and has called many Apple Cups as
- 3:36Speaker 1: a broadcaster, can we hold on to it? Can we
- 3:39Speaker 1: keep what's special about it at all?
- 3:43Speaker 5: Truthfully, I really hope so.
- 3:46Speaker 3: I don't have any faith in a lot of college
- 3:50Speaker 3: football right now when it comes to decision-making. There's a
- 3:54Speaker 3: lot of stuff out there. There's a lot of things
- 3:56Speaker 3: with with just disorganization. I know there needs to be,
- 4:00Speaker 3: there needs to be a bottom. And before we get
- 4:02Speaker 3: back on track, I believe we've reached the bottom in
- 4:04Speaker 3: college football and how things, but when we talk about
- 4:07Speaker 3: just how much the Apple cup met for years, I mean,
- 4:10Speaker 3: I mean, how long this rivalry has been around families, regions,
- 4:15Speaker 3: one half of the state versus the other kids that went,
- 4:18Speaker 3: went from the other side of the state and became
- 4:21Speaker 3: Huskies and vice versa.
- 4:22Speaker 5: And so it does, it means a lot.
- 4:24Speaker 3: There's, I don't know if you would call it as
- 4:28Speaker 3: much as there's pure hatred anymore, but there's just a
- 4:31Speaker 3: respectfulness of the importance of each school and how important
- 4:34Speaker 3: these schools mean for football in this state. So, yeah,
- 4:38Speaker 3: I do value this rivalry, and I hope we find
- 4:40Speaker 3: a way to make it happen. It's strange enough, it's
- 4:43Speaker 3: on a Sunday this year, which... You know, I'm a traditionalist.
- 4:47Speaker 3: I hold sacred Fridays for high school, Saturday for college football,
- 4:50Speaker 3: and Sundays for the NFL.
- 4:52Speaker 5: But what do I know?
- 4:53Speaker 3: I'm just an old, decrepit man now. I guess we've
- 4:55Speaker 3: got to deviate. Now it's the only day we don't
- 4:58Speaker 3: have it is Tuesdays and Wednesdays. So, okay, I guess
- 5:02Speaker 3: we'll deal with it. Yeah, don't hold your breath. That
- 5:04Speaker 3: might change, too.
- 5:05Speaker 5: Yeah, I know. I guess, yeah, that's a good point.
- 5:08Speaker 5: Very good point.
- 5:11Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about the game itself on Sunday. I'm
- 5:15Speaker 1: sure you've done some homework on the Cougs, and I'm
- 5:18Speaker 1: sure you're caught up to speed with what you're expecting
- 5:21Speaker 1: out of the Dogs this year. A lot of people
- 5:25Speaker 1: on the Cougs side fearing a blowout, and I think
- 5:29Speaker 1: a lot of people on the Huskies side hoping for
- 5:31Speaker 1: a blowout. Do we get a competitive game on Sunday,
- 5:35Speaker 1: or do fears and hopes come true?
- 5:40Speaker 3: I don't like, man, the predictions of this stuff because
- 5:42Speaker 3: it just always is, you know, talent, talent-wise. If you
- 5:47Speaker 3: want to break down a roster and go guy for guy, yeah.
- 5:51Speaker 3: I mean, but I've been on teams, Chuck, where the
- 5:53Speaker 3: talent has been swung one way or the other. And
- 5:57Speaker 3: then you have to throw out records, the cliches of
- 5:59Speaker 3: throw out records in a rivalry game. And what does
- 6:02Speaker 3: it mean for the Cougs coming out for their first time?
- 6:05Speaker 3: You've got a brand-new football coach. I mean, this is
- 6:07Speaker 3: three coaches. In three years for the Cougs. I mean,
- 6:11Speaker 3: some stability, that would be great. I mean, it's hard
- 6:14Speaker 3: enough to be able to manage a whole program, and
- 6:16Speaker 3: then you're changing over coaches, and you're looking at, you're
- 6:18Speaker 3: starting a new quarterback, who I got to see very
- 6:21Speaker 3: personally and got to know very, very well with Caden Pinnock.
- 6:25Speaker 3: He played at UC Davis where both my boys played,
- 6:27Speaker 3: so I got to know him, watch him play. An
- 6:29Speaker 3: incredible athlete. a freshman All-American. He was a big sky
- 6:34Speaker 3: player of the year, I think twice during the year,
- 6:36Speaker 3: threw for over 3,000 yards. He's a big-time talent, man.
- 6:39Speaker 3: And he came in and has taken over this offense.
- 6:43Speaker 3: And so he's been in Husky Stadium before. That was
- 6:47Speaker 3: last year. That was a tough game for everybody and
- 6:49Speaker 3: for himself. But, look, you mean to tell me that
- 6:53Speaker 3: the Cougs aren't going to come in and they're going
- 6:54Speaker 3: to be massively fired up to win this football game?
- 6:57Speaker 5: Of course not.
- 6:58Speaker 3: You know, Washington is– we hold what I would call–
- 7:01Speaker 3: you would call the pressure. This team is year three
- 7:04Speaker 3: in Jed Fish. He's got young players on the roster.
- 7:07Speaker 3: He's got four freshmen that are going to start on
- 7:10Speaker 3: the offense and defense. He's got his guys that are
- 7:13Speaker 3: in there that are now– new wide receiver core.
- 7:20Speaker 5: There's just a lot of things that we're going to see.
- 7:22Speaker 3: And this is why when I watch college football, everyone
- 7:25Speaker 3: always asks for predictions and say, what's this player going
- 7:28Speaker 3: to look like? What's this guy going to look like? Chuck,
- 7:30Speaker 3: I can't tell you that. And the reason why is
- 7:32Speaker 3: I haven't watched him play yet. And I need to
- 7:34Speaker 3: see what it looks like when the lights are on,
- 7:37Speaker 3: the pressure's on, the TV camera's on, and everybody's cheering.
- 7:40Speaker 3: I want to know what that kid looks like under that.
- 7:43Speaker 3: Practice can look great. But like Allen Iverson always said, we.
- 7:47Speaker 5: Talk in practice, man. No, not the game. We got
- 7:51Speaker 5: to play the games.
- 7:51Speaker 1: Yeah, got to play the games. And let's face it,
- 7:53Speaker 1: there's an element here. I mean, nobody has any film
- 7:56Speaker 1: on what Kirby Moore likes to do as a head coach.
- 7:59Speaker 1: I mean, you've got plenty of film on what Jed
- 8:01Speaker 1: Fish likes to do as a head coach. So that's
- 8:03Speaker 1: an unknown.
- 8:05Speaker 2: Going into this game.
- 8:05Speaker 1: Who knows if he's going to be a young Chris
- 8:07Speaker 1: Peterson with all the trick plays in the world at
- 8:10Speaker 1: his disposal. I mean, you've got an idea of what
- 8:11Speaker 1: kind of system he's going to run. but you never
- 8:14Speaker 1: know what kind of flavor he's going to bring to
- 8:17Speaker 1: the field in his first game as head coach of
- 8:20Speaker 1: the Cougs. So let's talk about the dogs, and it
- 8:23Speaker 1: must be music to your ears in the Jed Fish
- 8:26Speaker 1: era that when we start evaluating the 2026 Huskies for
- 8:32Speaker 1: the first time in three years, we're talking about the
- 8:34Speaker 1: strength being up front on both the offense and defensive lines.
- 8:37Speaker 4: Yes.
- 8:39Speaker 3: Yes, and I'm super excited about the offensive line and
- 8:44Speaker 3: the defensive line. I can just slightly digress and look
- 8:47Speaker 3: at the linebacker room. It might be the strongest room
- 8:50Speaker 3: in all of them, on all positions in this entire roster.
- 8:54Speaker 3: They are extremely deep. When we talk about guys up front,
- 8:58Speaker 3: if you go back to the first year of Jed Fish,
- 9:00Speaker 3: you see when he hit spring, he only had 10
- 9:03Speaker 3: healthy offensive linemen. Um, I mean, it might've been less
- 9:06Speaker 3: than that. It might've been eight when spring ball hit.
- 9:08Speaker 3: And now you're getting to see, I mean, not only
- 9:12Speaker 3: young talent, and we're going to talk a lot about
- 9:14Speaker 3: Cody green throughout the year. He's a, he's a true
- 9:16Speaker 3: freshman at left tackle. We're going to see what he does.
- 9:19Speaker 3: I'm excited to do it.
- 9:20Speaker 6: I'd.
- 9:21Speaker 3: I think that when you're 18 and you get a
- 9:23Speaker 3: chance to fight up against some guys that are 22, 23,
- 9:27Speaker 3: some of these players are going to be out there.
- 9:28Speaker 3: It's going to be awakening a little bit. And I
- 9:30Speaker 3: know he welcomes the challenge. John Mills did it last year.
- 9:33Speaker 3: I mean, he's tricky. Here's taking over for center for
- 9:37Speaker 3: hopefully a healing Landon Hatchett. But I've watched him play
- 9:40Speaker 3: in practices. I've watched him play in the mock game
- 9:42Speaker 3: and the scrimmage.
- 9:43Speaker 5: He's wonderful.
- 9:45Speaker 3: He's excellent. He's got great size, great feet. And then,
- 9:48Speaker 3: of course, Champ takes over at right guard. And then
- 9:50Speaker 3: you have a Solworth with Drew as a party. So
- 9:54Speaker 3: this offensive line is massive. This is the kind of
- 9:56Speaker 3: offensive line when you build something in the Big Ten
- 9:59Speaker 3: to be able to run the football, and that's what
- 10:01Speaker 3: we're going to have to do is run the football
- 10:03Speaker 3: in certain situations, and a lot of it. It may
- 10:06Speaker 3: not be as exciting sometimes, but you've seen what the
- 10:11Speaker 3: Big Ten has done in the three straight national championships.
- 10:14Speaker 3: They have been physical offensive line play and massive pass
- 10:18Speaker 3: rush and just run stuffing defensive linemen.
- 10:22Speaker 5: And that starts with all the big guys up front.
- 10:24Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm, I think you win football in the
- 10:26Speaker 3: line of scrimmage. Anybody that says different doesn't know football.
- 10:30Speaker 3: They don't, they haven't received that logic yet.
- 10:34Speaker 2: And you would like to inject.
- 10:35Speaker 1: It in them.
- 10:36Speaker 3: I would like to make a small injection. It's not
- 10:39Speaker 3: fun to watch the offensive. It's not fun to watch
- 10:41Speaker 3: the defensive line, right? Everybody wants to see the stuff
- 10:43Speaker 3: on the outside. But you can't throw the ball unless
- 10:46Speaker 3: you have protection. You can't stop the run unless you
- 10:49Speaker 3: have eyes up front. Everything starts at the point of
- 10:53Speaker 3: attack with the line of scrimmage. I don't care how
- 10:55Speaker 3: fast you think your edge guys are.
- 10:56Speaker 5: It doesn't matter.
- 10:57Speaker 1: Cam Cleland is with us, voice of the Dawgs' former
- 11:00Speaker 1: Husky tight end, of course, in his segment this season. Again,
- 11:03Speaker 1: brought to you by Warrior Injury Law, battle-tested. DeMond Williams Jr.
- 11:09Speaker 1: enters his third year with the Huskies, barely. His second
- 11:14Speaker 1: year as a full-time starter. He physically looks different. He's
- 11:18Speaker 1: put on some really good weight heading into this year.
- 11:22Speaker 1: What do you want to see out of DeMond Williams Jr.
- 11:26Speaker 1: this year to take his game to another level?
- 11:29Speaker 3: Okay, so there's a couple things I'd love to see
- 11:32Speaker 3: from him this year, and I think I've mentioned it before,
- 11:34Speaker 3: but I'll regurgitate that because I'll start to watch it
- 11:38Speaker 3: throughout the season. Number one is accuracy. So high percentage accuracy.
- 11:44Speaker 3: To ask a quarterback at the college level to get
- 11:49Speaker 3: in the upper 70s, that's a lot to ask.
- 11:50Speaker 5: 75%, 78%. The last time we saw somebody like that was.
- 11:56Speaker 3: Bo Nix, but that was in an Oregon offense, which
- 11:58Speaker 3: had a lot of quick throws and strikes and stuff
- 12:01Speaker 3: like that. That's not what Jed Fish runs. He runs
- 12:03Speaker 3: a professional offense. It is an NFL offense, NFL verbiage,
- 12:07Speaker 3: all of that. But his percentages need to be elevated.
- 12:12Speaker 3: He needs to be close to.
- 12:15Speaker 5: 68, 72% in that range.
- 12:16Speaker 3: I know I'm putting a benchmark number, but down the
- 12:19Speaker 3: field throws, accuracy, drives, extending third and sixes, accuracy.
- 12:25Speaker 5: We know what he can do outside the pocket. All
- 12:27Speaker 5: of us have seen it. His threat.
- 12:30Speaker 3: That is terrifying for defenses. But when you go back
- 12:32Speaker 3: and you watch Tate versus Ohio State, you watch Tate
- 12:34Speaker 3: versus Michigan, you can see in those losses and those situations,
- 12:38Speaker 3: they made him try to beat you from the pocket.
- 12:41Speaker 3: They said, we're going to have a spy. We're going
- 12:43Speaker 3: to have guys that carousel around you to the outside.
- 12:45Speaker 3: We're not going to create mid-pressure up the middle and
- 12:49Speaker 3: allow you to escape. We're certainly not going to draw
- 12:52Speaker 3: six and seven guys, rush four, and then let you
- 12:56Speaker 3: delay and then get out and make constant scrambles. he
- 12:59Speaker 3: created a shell defense and they tried to say, all right,
- 13:03Speaker 3: we'll stop run a little bit, but we want them
- 13:05Speaker 3: on to beat you. So this is, this is his
- 13:07Speaker 3: chance to elevate not only the intelligence of the throws,
- 13:10Speaker 3: because the grasp of the offense, by the time you're
- 13:12Speaker 3: in third year, you're, You're at an elite level of knowledge.
- 13:17Speaker 3: You should be. It shouldn't be about what you don't know.
- 13:21Speaker 3: Now it's about the execution in spots that you have
- 13:24Speaker 3: to get better at. So I think that's what elevates
- 13:26Speaker 3: him this year is those accuracy, those win-from-the-pocket moments for
- 13:31Speaker 3: this offense.
- 13:31Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd just like to see him have a really
- 13:35Speaker 1: great feel for when to run.
- 13:37Speaker 2: I think he struggled with that.
- 13:39Speaker 1: He knows he can run, but that's what I'd like
- 13:42Speaker 1: to see in this second full year of a starter,
- 13:44Speaker 1: to have just a command of when it's time to
- 13:47Speaker 1: use your legs as the weapon they can be.
- 13:51Speaker 5: Yes.
- 13:52Speaker 3: And that's also, too, that's also a decision when you
- 13:54Speaker 3: look at it, it's important to understand this because his health,
- 13:58Speaker 3: the best ability of all talent is availability. When to
- 14:02Speaker 3: take a shot. There were some big hits last year.
- 14:04Speaker 3: There were some downfield shoulder shots. There were some hits
- 14:06Speaker 3: you're like, man, you cannot take that week in and
- 14:09Speaker 3: week out and expect to be able to maintain it.
- 14:11Speaker 3: So it's a good point by yourself is selective runs.
- 14:15Speaker 3: But a check down to a back, that's a three
- 14:19Speaker 3: yard throw that turns into an eight, nine yard game.
- 14:21Speaker 3: That's a phenomenal play. And that's an easy, easy thing
- 14:24Speaker 3: to do sometimes. And you don't have to get too
- 14:26Speaker 3: scared about it.
- 14:27Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 14:28Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 14:28Speaker 2: Don't be scared. Cam Cleland, never scared.
- 14:31Speaker 5: All right.
- 14:32Speaker 1: So your favorite personal Apple cup memory, whether it was
- 14:36Speaker 1: on the field or off the field, what, what, what
- 14:40Speaker 1: do you, where does your brain go through your own scrapbook.
- 14:44Speaker 2: In your mind?
- 14:46Speaker 3: Well, we had some battles in my day back in– actually,
- 14:48Speaker 3: we had horses and carriages there, and everybody brought.
- 14:51Speaker 5: Torches to be able to light the field. So it was.
- 14:54Speaker 3: Amazing we were able to see through our leather helmets,
- 14:56Speaker 3: but they did give me one bar so I could
- 14:59Speaker 3: see through it.
- 15:00Speaker 5: No, I mean, we had some great runs, man.
- 15:03Speaker 3: We had a battle of overtime over there in Pullman
- 15:08Speaker 3: on a crappy– Omni turf that they used to think
- 15:11Speaker 3: that was actual turf, but to win the first and
- 15:14Speaker 3: get a chance to have a pack 10 championship game
- 15:17Speaker 3: in 1990, that was 96.
- 15:20Speaker 5: That was pretty important. I'm sorry. That was 95 that
- 15:23Speaker 5: we did that. And it'll walk off field goal.
- 15:25Speaker 3: So then, I mean, I think it's more about when
- 15:27Speaker 3: you go out on the field and you see those
- 15:29Speaker 3: other colors, it's like when the coots come out, they just,
- 15:33Speaker 3: that's coming down the tunnel. And I can't wait for
- 15:37Speaker 3: the say who, say what, and I'm going to keep
- 15:39Speaker 3: the PG version because, you.
- 15:41Speaker 5: Know, I'm a football guy. I might go to the
- 15:43Speaker 5: bad rate.
- 15:44Speaker 3: But the say who, say what chant in the tunnel
- 15:46Speaker 3: with the Cougs behind us, hearing that, seeing the color
- 15:50Speaker 3: of their jerseys, watching that, smelling that musty, football funk
- 15:57Speaker 3: that's in that tunnel when you're getting ready to come
- 15:59Speaker 3: out during the apple cup that's i can still like
- 16:02Speaker 3: i'm getting a little twitch in my head sometimes and
- 16:04Speaker 3: like i could still hit somebody but i'm going to
- 16:06Speaker 3: need an ambulance those are the memories that i miss
- 16:09Speaker 3: the most and i loved about that game.
- 16:10Speaker 2: Yeah you're breaking in a brand new partner this year
- 16:13Speaker 2: you're the you're the veteran in the booth uh so
- 16:16Speaker 2: what how you feeling about uh elise joining you this year.
- 16:21Speaker 5: Look, she's been 21 years on that side. 22? Gosh, man,
- 16:25Speaker 5: don't ask me to recite numbers. That's a little struggle.
- 16:28Speaker 5: She's phenomenal. And crazy story. I've known Elise.
- 16:32Speaker 3: We were both freshmen together. We came in in 1993 together.
- 16:36Speaker 5: She was basketball. I was football.
- 16:38Speaker 3: Her and my wife, Mindy, were college roommates. Of course,
- 16:42Speaker 3: my wife played both softball and basketball. We've known Elise
- 16:45Speaker 3: and Troy and their family and their two boys.
- 16:48Speaker 5: We've known them forever.
- 16:49Speaker 3: And What an amazing opportunity for her. She's, she's an incredible,
- 16:54Speaker 3: I mean, I don't want to say the consummate professional,
- 16:56Speaker 3: but you don't want to talk about somebody that's as
- 16:58Speaker 3: skilled as anybody. So I'm excited for her. And we're
- 17:01Speaker 3: just going to be, let me think about this. We're
- 17:03Speaker 3: two old dogs.
- 17:05Speaker 5: Now I'm old. She's women age gracefully. There's no numbers, guys.
- 17:09Speaker 5: I'm old. but we're up there.
- 17:11Speaker 3: We're just going to be two former athletes, two former
- 17:13Speaker 3: real Huskies, where if you prick this open and be some.
- 17:16Speaker 5: Purple and that's what we're doing. Yeah.
- 17:19Speaker 3: And then we're going to throw some crazy dude that
- 17:21Speaker 3: you work with on the sidelines. He's going to be
- 17:23Speaker 3: down there too. So it's going to be, it's going
- 17:25Speaker 3: to be a gong show.
- 17:27Speaker 5: I'm just going to tell you, just bear with us, everybody.
- 17:29Speaker 5: We're going to try our best.
- 17:31Speaker 2: Well, what did you do?
- 17:32Speaker 1: I hopefully you worked on your game, you know, um,
- 17:34Speaker 1: coming into the best broadcasting shape of your life. Uh,
- 17:38Speaker 1: I hope you did your part this offseason to make
- 17:40Speaker 1: sure that you're a top voice.
- 17:43Speaker 5: Yeah, I did. I gargled with salt water. I recited
- 17:47Speaker 5: red leather, yellow leather. What is that? I don't know.
- 17:51Speaker 5: My voice. Whatever.
- 17:53Speaker 2: The arsonist had webbed feet.
- 17:57Speaker 5: Yes. Deep pronunciations of the bases.
- 18:01Speaker 3: That's what at least he's like, you can just talk
- 18:03Speaker 3: like that sometimes. I'm like, no, I'm going to scare everybody.
- 18:06Speaker 3: They're going to think I'm off in left field. No, man,
- 18:10Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to it. When football season is back,
- 18:13Speaker 3: it's just, I mean, every day I just think about it.
- 18:16Speaker 5: It's spectacular.
- 18:17Speaker 1: Well, we're excited to have you back every Wednesday this year.
- 18:20Speaker 1: That's going to be good for us. and excited to
- 18:23Speaker 1: hear you on the call on Sunday. So thank you
- 18:25Speaker 1: very much, sir. Have a fun, great football season, and
- 18:29Speaker 1: we'll talk to you real soon.
- 18:31Speaker 5: I appreciate it. We'll talk soon. Thanks, man. All right.
- 18:33Speaker 1: There he is, Cam Cleland, joining us right here on
- 18:37Speaker 1: the radio program. And of course, this segment this year
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- 18:58Speaker 1: now it feels like Husky season can begin.
- 19:00Speaker 6: Yeah, let's go.
- 19:01Speaker 1: Yeah, we've talked to Cam. We'll talk to Softie tomorrow
- 19:04Speaker 1: on the show. And yes, here we go. Football season
- 19:07Speaker 1: is here. But we're not quite done with baseball season.
- 19:12Speaker 1: And that means ABC's and the M's.
- 19:14Speaker 5: Next on KJR. How good?
- 19:16Speaker 6: We're all good.
- 19:17Speaker 5: Very good.
- 19:18Speaker 2: Did he leave a little lingering? sent a ball in
- 19:21Speaker 2: the air.
- 19:22Speaker 1: Yeah, it hangs.
- 19:23Speaker 5: Oh, good.
- 19:23Speaker 1: It hangs. Well, it's time for the ABCs of the M's,
- 19:29Speaker 1: our Daily Mariner segment, and we left off with the
- 19:32Speaker 1: letter P, and P is for personality. I do wonder,
- 19:36Speaker 1: at this late stage in the process, Ashley Ryan, if
- 19:41Speaker 1: a player's personality can lift a team that obviously is
- 19:47Speaker 1: baseball depressed and has behaved that way as of late
- 19:52Speaker 1: i don't want to put too much actually i don't
- 19:55Speaker 1: want to put any pressure on the shoulders of laz
- 19:58Speaker 1: montes not sure he'd feel it anyway um I'm certainly
- 20:02Speaker 1: not expecting him to hit a home run every night.
- 20:05Speaker 3: Oh, I am.
- 20:05Speaker 1: To take Major League Baseball by storm. I mean, they're
- 20:09Speaker 1: going to figure him out, and they're going to make
- 20:11Speaker 1: him look bad on certain nights. Last night, he looked great.
- 20:14Speaker 1: But I don't think there's any tarnishing the joy that
- 20:18Speaker 1: this guy carries himself with. I met him three spring
- 20:22Speaker 1: trainings ago, spent a little time with him last spring training,
- 20:25Speaker 1: a little bit more time with him this spring training.
- 20:28Speaker 1: And I told you on the air three years ago,
- 20:31Speaker 1: that's the nicest person I've ever met. And he just
- 20:34Speaker 1: kind of... That morose-ass dugout suddenly... Now, you won, and
- 20:40Speaker 1: you were winning the entire game, which certainly helps. But
- 20:45Speaker 1: that guy brought something that we haven't seen in the
- 20:49Speaker 1: dugout in quite some time. And Randy Rosarino, I've never
- 20:53Speaker 1: seen smile more. So I do wonder... What a personality,
- 20:58Speaker 1: 22 years old, can inject into a veteran baseball team
- 21:04Speaker 1: that has failed at their craft for the last five months.
- 21:07Speaker 6: I mean, I think it could inject a lot because
- 21:08Speaker 6: it's a fresh attitude. It's not somebody who has gone
- 21:12Speaker 6: through this rough season that the rest of that dugout
- 21:14Speaker 6: has gone through. And people have struggled individually. The team
- 21:17Speaker 6: has struggled as a whole. And anything, I mean, we
- 21:21Speaker 6: talked about it at the trade deadline. Just injecting something
- 21:24Speaker 6: new can always help. And obviously at the trade deadline,
- 21:27Speaker 6: injecting Taylor Ward hasn't helped a ton.
- 21:30Speaker 2: No.
- 21:31Speaker 5: Or at all.
- 21:31Speaker 2: Yeah, or at all.
- 21:32Speaker 6: But he doesn't have the same sparkle that Laz has.
- 21:37Speaker 2: He does have a sparkle.
- 21:38Speaker 6: He does. And there's something about it. And it kind
- 21:41Speaker 6: of lightened everybody. And that's what they need. They need
- 21:43Speaker 6: to be a little lighter. They've been carrying this hard
- 21:45Speaker 6: season with them. And it's showing. They look heavy.
- 21:49Speaker 2: And I don't mean weight-wise.
- 21:50Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 21:52Speaker 2: And I'll say that.
- 21:53Speaker 1: I think fans carry that heaviness with them more so
- 21:56Speaker 1: than even the players. Players still get done, and their
- 21:59Speaker 1: appetites aren't hurt by a tough loss. They go out,
- 22:02Speaker 1: they have a steak and a beer, and they don't
- 22:07Speaker 1: wear it like fans do when we sit there and
- 22:10Speaker 1: we're just angry and tweeting and everything else during the
- 22:14Speaker 1: course of a game.
- 22:14Speaker 6: Emotional about it.
- 22:16Speaker 2: So to see.
- 22:17Speaker 1: Las Montes kind of distract us, I mean, you went
- 22:22Speaker 1: from The season's over.
- 22:25Speaker 2: The night before to... All right, I'm going to tune
- 22:28Speaker 2: in again because I'm a sucker.
- 22:30Speaker 1: And then the next thing you know, you're having a ball,
- 22:32Speaker 1: watching your favorite baseball team primarily because of.
- 22:36Speaker 2: This guy last night.
- 22:38Speaker 1: And Ashley said it earlier in the show, can't wait
- 22:40Speaker 1: to watch today to see what he can do on
- 22:43Speaker 1: day number two.
- 22:44Speaker 2: So, yeah, he's not going to homer every night, but I.
- 22:48Speaker 1: Tell you what, that personality did do something for us
- 22:52Speaker 1: last night and did something for them last night as well.
- 22:54Speaker 6: Yeah, and I don't think that's going to go anywhere.
- 22:57Speaker 2: Now, I will say this, because Q is for quit.
- 23:00Speaker 4: Uh-oh.
- 23:00Speaker 2: What we do need to quit on, though, is looking
- 23:02Speaker 2: for a spark. Yeah.
- 23:05Speaker 6: I will agree.
- 23:05Speaker 5: You know, we have.
- 23:07Speaker 2: We're trying.
- 23:07Speaker 6: To make too much out of things that we see, too.
- 23:09Speaker 4: Right.
- 23:10Speaker 2: We've run through every possible spark that there is. There
- 23:14Speaker 2: it is. That's what we needed.
- 23:16Speaker 5: Yep.
- 23:17Speaker 2: Three on Omer from Cole Young saves the day. Here
- 23:21Speaker 2: we go.
- 23:21Speaker 6: That's going to be the moment we're going to look
- 23:23Speaker 6: back on at the end of the season and say,
- 23:24Speaker 6: that's what turned it all.
- 23:27Speaker 1: Circle that Dom can zone home run circle, Brendan Donovan
- 23:31Speaker 1: coming off the injury list circle cow rallies out.
- 23:35Speaker 2: Of his slot.
- 23:36Speaker 1: Uh, none of it, none of it has provided the spark. And, uh,
- 23:40Speaker 1: I going to go ahead and say that last Montez
- 23:43Speaker 1: isn't either, but he might melt some of the Hardened hearts.
- 23:50Speaker 1: Hardened hearts that we saw just two nights ago.
- 23:54Speaker 2: Can't hurt.
- 23:55Speaker 4: Nope.
- 23:55Speaker 2: I'm not going to put Spark label on him.
- 23:58Speaker 1: I've failed at that all season long trying to figure
- 24:01Speaker 1: out if that's the turning point.
- 24:03Speaker 2: But it can't hurt.
- 24:05Speaker 1: To have somebody that can hit the long ball and
- 24:07Speaker 1: put a smile on people's faces.
- 24:09Speaker 6: Well, and here's the difference too, right? Those other things
- 24:11Speaker 6: that we were looking at, those were moments. And we
- 24:14Speaker 6: were hoping that moment would be the thing that would
- 24:16Speaker 6: carry him over to the next game. He's not a moment.
- 24:19Speaker 2: He's here.
- 24:20Speaker 6: So he's bringing that same personality to the dugout today.
- 24:23Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 24:24Speaker 2: And that's the one difference.
- 24:24Speaker 5: Can he manage? Yeah, right?
- 24:27Speaker 6: But that's the difference. We're not relying on the moment
- 24:29Speaker 6: from last night to carry over to today to help
- 24:32Speaker 6: us with the spark. We're saying, hey, here he is,
- 24:35Speaker 6: and he's got a fresh outlook on this thing, and
- 24:38Speaker 6: he's excited to be here, so let's see.
- 24:40Speaker 1: Yeah, there was no wiping the smile off his face
- 24:42Speaker 1: last night. And then when you go out and get
- 24:44Speaker 1: a walk and an RBI single and a home run
- 24:47Speaker 1: over the center field.
- 24:48Speaker 2: Wall at Fenway.
- 24:49Speaker 6: It's a pretty good first outing.
- 24:51Speaker 1: Pretty, pretty good. And you got to see that power
- 24:53Speaker 1: on display. I mentioned it once. It's worth mentioning again.
- 24:56Speaker 1: He didn't even get his arms extended on that, people. Like,
- 24:59Speaker 1: that was a pitch inside that he kind of fought
- 25:03Speaker 1: off and lifted and still hit it over 10 feet,
- 25:06Speaker 1: 10 rows up over the wall and the furthest fence
- 25:10Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball and highest fence, second highest fence,
- 25:14Speaker 1: the left field fence is higher, and 106 miles per
- 25:18Speaker 1: hour off the bat.
- 25:19Speaker 2: Now, that is some power. It was impressive.
- 25:22Speaker 6: Very impressive.
- 25:23Speaker 2: Very impressive. Finally, R is for ratio.
- 25:28Speaker 1: This conversation about what to do and whose heads should roll,
- 25:34Speaker 1: this is going to be our life probably for the
- 25:36Speaker 1: next two months, unless this team does somehow magically put
- 25:41Speaker 1: together a run. We're going to spend a lot of
- 25:45Speaker 1: time talking more about Dan Wilson needs to go and
- 25:49Speaker 1: Jerry DiPoto needs to go, and I wish we had
- 25:52Speaker 1: an owner who's like, Stan Kroenke that bought us. I mean,
- 25:55Speaker 1: all of this stuff, this is just going to be
- 25:58Speaker 1: our lives when talking about baseball for the next month
- 26:01Speaker 1: and a half, two months of our lives, unless the
- 26:04Speaker 1: players can figure out a way to put together a
- 26:07Speaker 1: streak here down the stretch.
- 26:10Speaker 2: But I do want to, I brought this up yesterday in.
- 26:13Speaker 1: Our show meeting, and I hope that maybe that it
- 26:15Speaker 1: resonates because this is where I stand on the ratio
- 26:18Speaker 1: of the blame pie.
- 26:20Speaker 2: That I pass along.
- 26:21Speaker 6: Okay.
- 26:21Speaker 2: Because the example of.
- 26:23Speaker 1: Julio playing a single into a triple and costing us
- 26:28Speaker 1: the game two nights ago was again used as, you know,
- 26:33Speaker 1: that kind of leadership starts from the top kind of
- 26:36Speaker 1: argument that took place yesterday.
- 26:38Speaker 2: And I'm just not on board with that.
- 26:43Speaker 1: I mean, I just, I think that that, that play
- 26:46Speaker 1: in and of itself, like, The general manager's job in
- 26:52Speaker 1: that moment is, that's the kind of player that we want,
- 26:56Speaker 1: and that's the type of player that we extend.
- 26:58Speaker 2: And then he goes to the owner.
- 27:00Speaker 1: And says, you really do need to crack out the
- 27:04Speaker 1: wallet for this guy.
- 27:05Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 27:05Speaker 1: So if Julio's the wrong player to have chosen to extend,
- 27:10Speaker 1: then I'm going to blame Pi.
- 27:13Speaker 5: Jerry.
- 27:14Speaker 1: Right.
- 27:15Speaker 2: If we spent....
- 27:18Speaker 1: John finally did open up the pocketbook and pay for
- 27:22Speaker 1: a player since so many people think he never does.
- 27:26Speaker 1: And he rubber-stamped, this is the guy that I'm going
- 27:28Speaker 1: to invest in, and it doesn't turn out to be
- 27:31Speaker 1: the right player.
- 27:32Speaker 2: Again, that's on Jerry.
- 27:34Speaker 5: Yep.
- 27:34Speaker 4: Okay?
- 27:35Speaker 1: So, but that play in of itself, that to me...
- 27:42Speaker 1: is representative of not being aware of the situation, that's
- 27:48Speaker 1: on the player.
- 27:50Speaker 5: Yes.
- 27:50Speaker 1: But if you see a repeated performance of that particular
- 27:55Speaker 1: player making the same type of mistake, that's on the coaches.
- 28:01Speaker 2: Correct.
- 28:02Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're allowing them to do the same thing.
- 28:03Speaker 1: And specifically the manager. So that's how, to me, that's it.
- 28:10Speaker 1: If Jerry's chosen the wrong guy to invest in, then
- 28:13Speaker 1: that's Jerry's job. It's the player's job to give us
- 28:19Speaker 1: an honest and smart effort every single day. But if
- 28:23Speaker 1: we have a player with all the talent in the world,
- 28:27Speaker 1: if we've all agreed when we were all excited about
- 28:30Speaker 1: extending Julio, oh my gosh, we did it.
- 28:32Speaker 2: We locked him up.
- 28:33Speaker 1: We don't have to worry about Julio Rodriguez being in
- 28:35Speaker 1: another uniform and hitting 50 home runs for the Mets.
- 28:42Speaker 1: So if we were excited about that and excited about
- 28:44Speaker 1: the talent, it's hard for me to blame the people
- 28:47Speaker 1: that decided he was worth investing in. And if I
- 28:52Speaker 1: have a guy that's repeatedly coming off as not making
- 28:56Speaker 1: good decisions or not constantly focused like he should be
- 29:00Speaker 1: as a professional athlete, there's a pattern of behavior. I'm
- 29:04Speaker 1: blaming the coaches and the manager for that. Starts with
- 29:07Speaker 1: the player, but obviously Mike McDonald hard knocks. If that's
- 29:14Speaker 1: happening on his field, that stops or Mike McDonald's not
- 29:19Speaker 1: going to deal with him anymore. So that to me
- 29:22Speaker 1: is how I'm going to parcel up the blame because
- 29:27Speaker 1: Julio Rodriguez played a single into a triple it's hard
- 29:31Speaker 1: for me to blame the owner after that It's hard
- 29:35Speaker 1: for me to blame the organizational philosophy because Julio Rodriguez
- 29:40Speaker 1: played a single into a triple. If I'm going to
- 29:42Speaker 1: blame anybody, it's going to be Julio. And the second
- 29:44Speaker 1: person I'm going to blame is the coaches that allow
- 29:46Speaker 1: Julio to do these stupid things every once in a while.
- 29:49Speaker 6: And that's where it gets frustrating is because I think
- 29:51Speaker 6: people want to just blanket blame it's just well I'm
- 29:55Speaker 6: mad at Jerry and I'm mad at the ownership so
- 29:57Speaker 6: it's just their fault for everything and I mean there
- 29:59Speaker 6: was a point brought up yesterday I heard Anders and
- 30:02Speaker 6: Ian and you know so many people are mad at
- 30:03Speaker 6: Jerry for hiring Dan well that was an ownership hire
- 30:06Speaker 6: that wasn't it wasn't Jerry 100% I mean Jerry agreed
- 30:10Speaker 6: to it but it wasn't like Jerry was I blame
- 30:12Speaker 6: Jerry for that well but it was a combination it
- 30:16Speaker 6: wasn't just Jerry just saying no no no this is
- 30:18Speaker 6: our guy this is our guy this is our guy
- 30:20Speaker 6: it was he's in the organization ownership likes him this
- 30:23Speaker 6: is how it's going down. So, but in that situation
- 30:25Speaker 6: for the hiring of someone, there you go. That's where
- 30:28Speaker 6: you blame things, but everybody wants to then blame everybody,
- 30:32Speaker 6: you know, Jerry and Justin and ownership for everything. And
- 30:35Speaker 6: I don't know how you can sit there and consistently
- 30:37Speaker 6: do that when it's an on-field thing. That's the problem
- 30:41Speaker 6: right now.
- 30:41Speaker 5: I agree.
- 30:42Speaker 1: But what happens is that what happens is you choose
- 30:45Speaker 1: your side and you go out on a limb and
- 30:47Speaker 1: then You are absolutely convinced and you are waiting for
- 30:51Speaker 1: the next opportunity for the team to fail so that
- 30:53Speaker 1: you can go back to the point you made six
- 30:55Speaker 1: years ago that that guy is wrong for the job.
- 30:58Speaker 1: And that's kind of the way it works. People kind
- 31:00Speaker 1: of tune in for their own narrative to be supported.
- 31:05Speaker 1: That's most people. I like to think that I'm not
- 31:09Speaker 1: one of those. But nonetheless, we're going to be discussing
- 31:13Speaker 1: this for.
- 31:15Speaker 2: The next month and a half, like I said.
- 31:17Speaker 1: And I think everything's on the table, just so you know,
- 31:20Speaker 1: even though I've been more pro-Jerry and anti-Dan, I think
- 31:23Speaker 1: everything's on the table. I think everybody is under the knife,
- 31:27Speaker 1: under the microscope on why this has been a failure
- 31:31Speaker 1: to this point in the season. And so get ready,
- 31:36Speaker 1: buckle up, because I would rather be talking about a
- 31:39Speaker 1: playoff rotation right now and who makes the roster.
- 31:43Speaker 2: That sounds fun. versus who to blame for a disastrous year.
- 31:48Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 31:49Speaker 1: But that's what we're going to do for the next
- 31:50Speaker 1: year and a half, so get ready. All right, one
- 31:52Speaker 1: last thing to close out the show next on KJR.
- 32:05Speaker 1: I want to remind you, we are a week away
- 32:07Speaker 1: from the start of the Seahawks season.
- 32:10Speaker 2: It will be on a Wednesday this year.
- 32:12Speaker 1: College football, the Apple Cup's on a Sunday, and the
- 32:15Speaker 1: NFL starts on a Wednesday.
- 32:18Speaker 6: Weird.
- 32:18Speaker 2: Just like we drew it up. Right, exactly.
- 32:21Speaker 1: If you aren't going to the game, but you still
- 32:24Speaker 1: want to be around a bunch of 12s and watch
- 32:27Speaker 1: the game outdoors, how about joining Ashley Ryan at the
- 32:31Speaker 1: Tulalip Resort casino. She's going to be out at the
- 32:34Speaker 1: amphitheater where I was just a couple of weeks ago.
- 32:37Speaker 1: 3,000 seats out there. Hopefully we get a beautiful, already
- 32:42Speaker 1: fall day.
- 32:43Speaker 2: That would be awesome.
- 32:44Speaker 1: Next Wednesday, big screen. You're going to have an amazing
- 32:48Speaker 1: sound system out there. So if you want to show up,
- 32:51Speaker 1: there's going to be food, drink, obviously, available out there.
- 32:55Speaker 1: And then you've got a playground, an adult playground right
- 32:58Speaker 1: next door with the casino. So To me, it sounds
- 33:01Speaker 1: like a perfect script for the perfect Wednesday to start
- 33:04Speaker 1: the NFL season.
- 33:06Speaker 5: Head on out.
- 33:07Speaker 1: Join Ashley at Tulalip Resort Casino for a watch party
- 33:11Speaker 1: next Wednesday.
- 33:13Speaker 2: Everything Tulalip.com.
- 33:15Speaker 6: Let's have some fun.
- 33:16Speaker 1: Have some fun, Ashley. Make sure that you have fun
- 33:18Speaker 1: out there. Don't throw a party talking about the Mariners.
- 33:23Speaker 6: Well, I can still have fun talking about the Mariners sometimes.
- 33:27Speaker 2: All right. What's your one last thing?
- 33:30Speaker 6: That's a really great question. I've really only had one
- 33:32Speaker 6: thing on my mind, as I told you. It was
- 33:33Speaker 6: about the middle school starting today. But I am surprised
- 33:39Speaker 6: just kind of how nervous it has made me. I
- 33:45Speaker 6: expect it to be a little emotional because it feels
- 33:47Speaker 6: like my kid is growing up so much.
- 33:49Speaker 2: You didn't watch Mean Girls last night or anything, did you?
- 33:52Speaker 6: No, I didn't, but we have watched it. Yeah, that
- 33:54Speaker 6: would have been, then I would have been. Really like, okay, oh,
- 33:57Speaker 6: it's Wednesday. Wear pink. Don't forget to wear pink.
- 34:02Speaker 2: But no, I don't know.
- 34:04Speaker 6: It's just surprised me a little bit because I think
- 34:07Speaker 6: because it's been so long since she went to kindergarten.
- 34:10Speaker 6: And when she went to kindergarten, that was different because
- 34:12Speaker 6: we were in COVID. So this is her first real
- 34:16Speaker 6: first day. Oh. Because in kindergarten, she sat at a
- 34:21Speaker 6: computer in our dining room for her first day of school.
- 34:24Speaker 6: And so now this is her first, like she's had
- 34:26Speaker 6: her first days, you know, in other grades. But like
- 34:29Speaker 6: to go to a new school and be starting it
- 34:31Speaker 6: and actually be there, I think it's just, I don't.
- 34:33Speaker 2: Know, strange.
- 34:35Speaker 6: Strange feeling.
- 34:35Speaker 2: Strange. Yeah. It's all working out, it sounds like.
- 34:39Speaker 6: It is, it is.
- 34:39Speaker 2: You're going to get a full review tonight. I can't wait.
- 34:43Speaker 6: I'm probably going to hear more than I want to.
- 34:44Speaker 6: At one point I'll be like, all right, that's just
- 34:46Speaker 6: too much detail to this story. Let's move on.
- 34:49Speaker 2: Let's speed it along here.
- 34:50Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 34:50Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 34:50Speaker 2: Let's get to the end. Yeah, please. Skip ahead.
- 34:53Speaker 1: I'm going to close out my one last thing by
- 34:56Speaker 1: talking about the Angels sale yesterday. Stan Kroenke buys them.
- 35:02Speaker 1: I'll say this, that he's hated in a lot of
- 35:05Speaker 1: different places for being kind of a shyster.
- 35:09Speaker 2: But he wins.
- 35:12Speaker 1: He wins where he goes. His Avalanche won. His Nuggets won.
- 35:15Speaker 1: His Rams have won. And now he's in on the
- 35:19Speaker 1: baseball business. And so, yeah, we've got a guy in
- 35:24Speaker 1: our division that's going to move and shake.
- 35:28Speaker 2: I don't have any doubt about that going forward.
- 35:31Speaker 1: And he spent $ 4 billion on a franchise that can't
- 35:35Speaker 1: get out of its own way in the last decade
- 35:37Speaker 1: or more.
- 35:38Speaker 2: So, yeah, the competition just got a little stiffer.
- 35:42Speaker 1: But I'm going to pull a silver lining from this,
- 35:44Speaker 1: and that is if Stan Kroenke's getting in the baseball business, Apparently,
- 35:48Speaker 1: Stan Kroenke's been a baseball fan primarily most of his life,
- 35:52Speaker 1: and he's gotten into the hockey business, the basketball business,
- 35:56Speaker 1: and the.
- 35:56Speaker 2: Football business over the years.
- 35:58Speaker 1: If he's getting into the baseball business, when they're on
- 36:01Speaker 1: the verge of a collective bargaining agreement where he might
- 36:04Speaker 1: start his ownership in a lockout, for goodness sake, maybe
- 36:08Speaker 1: he knows something. Guarantee he's done his due diligence, he's
- 36:12Speaker 1: done his homework. And if he's buying into baseball now,
- 36:16Speaker 1: this might actually be the most positive sign that we've
- 36:19Speaker 1: seen in quite some time.
- 36:20Speaker 2: I haven't thought about it at all.
- 36:22Speaker 1: If Stan Kroenke thinks that now's a good time to
- 36:25Speaker 1: invest in baseball, maybe.
- 36:28Speaker 2: It's a good time to invest in baseball. We'll see.
- 36:31Speaker 6: That'd be great.
- 36:32Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 36:32Speaker 6: I mean, I'll take that as a positive sign if
- 36:34Speaker 6: we can.
- 36:34Speaker 5: Sure.
- 36:35Speaker 2: I mean, he's not just a billionaire. He's a.
- 36:38Speaker 1: sports owner billionaire like if this guy didn't think baseball
- 36:43Speaker 1: was a good investment right now he wouldn't spend four
- 36:48Speaker 1: billion dollars on a stadium issue led franchise right i.
- 36:54Speaker 6: Don't think he'd be as rich as he is if
- 36:55Speaker 6: he made decisions like that.
- 36:57Speaker 1: Well so i'm gonna look at that as maybe a
- 36:59Speaker 1: really good sign that stan kronke's gotten into the baseball
- 37:02Speaker 1: business And then we won't have an ugly lockout next year. Okay.
- 37:05Speaker 4: All right.
- 37:06Speaker 1: We'll talk to you tomorrow at 6 a.m.
- 37:07Speaker 2: Greg Bell, Jessamyn McIntyre.
- 37:09Speaker 1: It's the captain and Jess next on Sports Radio 93.3
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