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to them before applying it to you?
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Never make the Bible say what you wanted to say and surrender
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your way, at least the paragraph.
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The complete train of don't build your belief on a second
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you. God's word is not a weapon for
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defending a pride. It is living and acting, letting
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deep inside. Let it correct you, train you
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what is wrong. The context becomes clear, your
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foundation Beloved Sons, Aloha.
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Good afternoon. Thank you for joining us again
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here on the Men Helping Men radio show.
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I'm your host, Kevin Anderson, joined by our executive
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producer, Mr. Brandon Ortiz and Pastor Doug Chong, founder of
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Christ Built Ministries and Men Helping Men, and also our
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songwriter for all the amazing music we get to listen to today.
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We listen to the song Bible Basics.
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Doug That's one of the things I love about Christ Built
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Ministries is that we have a very practical application about
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how to approach God's Word, not in a Mystic sense, but in a very
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practical application in our life.
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And what was the inspiration of that, Doug?
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Why, why? Why did you create the Bible
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basics kind of the format of how to approach God's Word?
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What was your inspiration for that, Doug?
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It's getting it right. It's and and just The thing is
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when, when in in in spiritual does our spiritual walk when we
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stumble or we fail, we burn bridges, we hurt people.
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And that's the the problem. Hurt people, hurt people.
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So that voice in my head, be it Satan, be it in my own
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conscience, whatever it is, whoever it is downs me so much.
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And I think people cutting me off or or people being rude,
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they're looking down on me. That's in my own head.
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That's my own issues. And even if they were, if I
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didn't have that heart inside, I'd be able to overcome that
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God. So it's learning the house how
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now God says consider a purge when you face trials of many
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kinds. Come to me, all you who were in
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burden, and I'll give you rest. How He doesn't tell you how
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directly. And that comes with our daily
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reading or journaling or asking him.
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Lord, tell me, tell me what I have to do so I can't keep in
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step with your Holy Spirit so I don't fail.
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I don't hurt people. So it's very important to take
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the proper steps. Problem is when you skip steps
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that's when Satan comes and and remember his biggest weapon is
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what Kevin? Deception, Doug, deception.
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If we don't know God's Word, then we have nothing to fight
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against that deception. And, you know, applying the the
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Bible basics to understanding God's word, but it also it gives
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us a better understanding about who our God is that we serve.
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You know, going in the Old Testament, finding out his
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character through the Old Testament showing, finding out
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what he loves, what he hates, why he disciplines, you know,
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why he leads his people in the promised lands, why he does all
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these things. That's a character of God going
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back in the Old Testament and then moving forward from there
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into the promise of the covenant of Jesus coming for us here to
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make way to restore relationship with him.
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Doug, Right. Yes, yes.
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And and it's learning that there are 66 books in the Bible and
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they're not written directly to us.
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You know, they're written to the Israelites, his people.
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And they're different genres, different types.
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It's like if you're watching a a drama home, you're watching The
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Walking Dead. You're not taking it as fast
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comparing you watching the news now that's fact depending what
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news you're watching, but you know the different genres you
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know how much effort or or thinking you you used to put
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into it. See narrative.
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They're just telling you a story.
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So not every single detail is of divine knowledge and there's
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Nuggets of wisdom in every word that they say.
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Some people think that they read into it see and the problem is
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Kev years I was searching for the Lord and searching to of how
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to to to find him to what do I do?
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What is my part because we have a part and people say or Oh
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yeah, I hear interpreters say pastors say Jesus did it all.
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We do nothing. Even the new living translation.
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I was having a battle with with ChatGPT because the NLT new
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living translation says free gift.
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That's not in the original text. It's not free because when we
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humans today, locals today, especially if somebody says it's
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something is free and I have to give up my life.
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That's the farthest thing from free in the world.
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You don't give up anything for freedom, you know.
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So it's not free, not in the the definition of what we think free
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is and works. If you use the word works, what
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does that mean? That means we don't have to do
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anything. See, And it's they're talking
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about works of the Old Testament law.
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But we don't, we don't even know the Old Testament law.
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There's 600 laws. We don't follow it.
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We're Gentiles. We're not.
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We're not the Jews. So we're led by the spirits.
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But Satan likes to use the word works.
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He likes to use the word free. So what?
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We don't do anything. Exactly, Duggan.
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You know, it's just thinking about this as we're talking
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here. You know, if you were to build a
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house, you know, would you start off with, you can't start
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building a roof, can't start by putting up the walls, You can't
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start by putting an electrician. Electrician, you know, the
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electrical HVAC, You got to start with what the foundation,
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right, Doug? You got to build a foundation.
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And that is how the word of God needs to be read.
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Building a solid foundation, understanding on how to read and
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how to apply that every single day.
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Not just once a week when you show up to church and sit in
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that Pew and you know, clap and get excited and get your
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emotions stirred, but every single day coming to God,
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understanding who He is, his character, and everything about
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him. So we can build the house that's
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not built on shifting sand, but built on the rock.
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Yes, Kevin, when I, when I went into Bible College in my 30s and
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when when I was on Oahu for Bible college, I remember when
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we had we had graduation and some of the kids was yelling
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when I was receiving my degree. He's not he's too old to be in
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Bible. The kids are in their 20s.
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That's one of the jokers in there.
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I'm like. Reminds me of Rodney
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Dangerfield. Going back to school, but, but
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when I, when I was when I was there, I asked the the
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professors before I went into Bible college, what should I,
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what should I prepare for, you know, thinking that I have no
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clue the Bible college is different from regular college.
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They said take English and I said what?
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Because you have to write paper after paper after paper referral
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letters. And if you can't put a sentence
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together, then it's embarrassing and people don't understand what
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you're writing. So when I went back into
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college, up here, you take the placement exam I place for
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English 100, but I forgot all the basics.
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I wanted to relearn the basics. When you put what is a comma
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splice? What is a run on sentence?
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What is a fragment? So I went down to English 22 and
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he was humbling because you know you're in the lower numbers,
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you're not up to the standards of everybody else.
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But it's not about the world following the standards of the
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world. It's about learning the right
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way. So when I went up to English 100
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and you do peer reviews, meaning people trade their papers in and
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then that your neighbor, you know, corrects it.
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And it's also only be a little little corrections.
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Oh, you missed a comma here. But this is a run on sentence.
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No, a lot of the papers you have to rewrite the whole thing
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because they didn't master the basics.
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And as we get older, we know you, you take shortcuts, you'll
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feel it. People have back injuries, knee
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injuries, because they went heavy in the gym too soon.
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Yeah, I'm not building a foundation, right, Doug?
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And, you know, just talking about anything or anybody who
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does any things with, with excellence, Michael Jordan, you
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know, with all these amazing athletes, they, they practice
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the basics over and over and, and they mastered that.
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So when they mastered that, then they will protect and, and go
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into the next steps. And that's what we do at Christ
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Built Ministries. We master the basics, you know,
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and, and I had, you know, I had to dumb myself down a lot
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because, you know, I went to church for, you know, 20 plus
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years of my life and I thought I knew God's word.
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But oh boy, the revealing of that when I sat and started, you
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know, sitting learning, how about the, the daily, you know,
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the Bible basics, the daily spiritual routine, how to apply
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that, how to interpret God's Word, you know, and that that
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was a tough one for me, Doug, because you know, that voice
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coming back to that voice, right?
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You're never going to get this, you know, you know, no, that's
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too difficult, Bob. And of course, the enemy wants
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to make sure that you stay stuck and you know.
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Well, you got it. No.
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What did I ask you this morning first thing in the morning?
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Oh, you asked me just as I'm getting my day going, Kev, tell
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me your scriptures and what did I name off about 30 scriptures
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right in a row? And man, that was mind blowing
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to me because I, and I reflected on that the other day and my,
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and my journaling, just, you know, doing my daily start and
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stuff like that. I was like, wow, I'm hiding the
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word of God in my heart. Psalms 1/19/11 that I might not
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sin against you. Proverbs 423, Matthew 713 and 14
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on and on. And you know, I haven't heard
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you say much, but I may always build me up to of course, but
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and especially when it comes to God's word, you know, this
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morning was a real good validation.
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And I want to thank you for that, for recognizing that, you
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know what, I'm, I'm making that sacrifice.
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And that's what it takes, right? To show up and make that
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sacrifice then to master the basics.
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And that's what you've taught me.
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And lo and behold, you know, here we sit on this radio here,
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you know, six months later and I'll do our 27th, 28th episode
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here, man, I tell you what, what a blessing, Doug, to to be here
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so. Yeah, and good job, Kevin.
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And that's the thing people don't realize, like you were
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saying about the Michael Jordan's and the Kobe Bryant's
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and the all the great athletes, you know, Larry Birds, they,
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they, it's what they do after practice.
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See people practice and they're at a high level already.
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It's they go the extra 10 miles. So it's always memorizing
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Scripture people when they watch me train in anything that I
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meant, but especially in God with God, I, my mom is too much.
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That's too much. It can never be.
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It can be too much if I neglect everyone else.
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But I mean, usually it's not enough.
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God has to be on our mind all the time.
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And because I've stumbled and fell so many times, I got to
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literally hug the vine, you know, cling to the vine.
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I have to keep him on my mind all the time because it's so
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easy to drift into the negative thoughts and because I'm a first
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born. We read this birth order book
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and the birth order book says the first borns, male or female,
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oldest male or female, are usually the leaders.
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Now, 70% of all the presidents of the United States are first
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borns. And it doesn't mean that other
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levels or other positioning, the youngest is not leaders.
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It's just you got to work harder.
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And the youngest usually are the people person.
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They're the jokers. Most comedians in Hollywood are
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youngest and easy going path is paying for them, you know, so,
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so it's just annoying when you when you're a first born, your
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brain never turns off at times and that can be a negative.
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So that's the hard. Doug, it's so funny and the
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reason why I'm laughing here is because here's a guy who's a
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first born working with two youngest and and you know, Doug
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is so passionate and he's so on fire.
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He's so lit for God every single day.
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It's like all day long and it's like, you know, us, Brandon and
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I is being, you know, you know, the youngest.
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It's like, you know, come on, Doug, slow down and he's like,
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Nope, we're not taking our foot off the gas man.
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We are in this to win this and that's the heart of Christ built
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men. Here is we're in that where this
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is no joke to us. This is our life.
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This is eternity for us, Doug and man, we have to like and
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master the basics so we can then begin to come off of the milk,
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as it were, get into the meat. And that's the transition of
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growing and building a relationship with God every
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single day. Yeah, and, and on Kevin and
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Brandon's side, they taught me a lot because I can't exasperate
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people. I can just push, push, push,
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push, push, push. And like I said, they're,
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they're the youngest. So they're people, people they
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can talk and they hang out and I'm like, come on, we're on a
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time schedule. So it's, it's the balance of me,
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not always me learning from them and relaxing.
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Sometimes it's not all about business.
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At times it's, it's relaxing and we still can get it done.
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Focus on the main things. Like I told you, the little
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things we can adjust here and there, but it's the main your
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relationship with God is what I'm concerned about.
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You study, not Did you Polish the cars?
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Is it covered? You know all the little things.
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We can work as we go, but looking at perfection too soon.
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Parents out there, you want to look at the main goals, the main
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goal, the goal that you have. The strategy to get to that goal
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and the steps in the strategy, don't focus on all of them
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because what will happen is, you know, you overwhelm the kids.
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See, with Kevin and Brandon, the main thing I have been focused
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on is relationship. The relationship with God is #1
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the obedience to God comes after the relationship.
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I mean, they'll walk it out. They won't majorly sin, but the
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heart won't comply until there's a connection to God.
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Exactly, And that's what's happened with me and Brandon, of
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course, as we've sat with you, Doug, and, and learned, you
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know, a key element of, of actually building a relationship
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through understanding on word, God's word is that art of
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submission. And, you know, as a 62 year old
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guy here, you know, having to submit to somebody who's younger
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than me, you know, it's kind of humbling at first, but I tell
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you what, there's a, there's a real blessing in that.
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There's a real freedom in that to be able to do that.
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And I wouldn't be able to do that unless my heart's changed.
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And what's changed? My heart, Doug is spending time
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with God every day and getting you to know him, coming before
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him every day, learning the basics and then starting, like I
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said, to begin to crawl and then start to walk.
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And then, you know, coming to, you know, you know, fulfillment
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of having you as our leader, our guide to make sure that you're
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watching over as just as Paul said, he's watching over his
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sheep feeding us every single day.
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And that's what Christ both is about is making sure that we are
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equipped for eternity. Yeah.
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And that's that's exactly it, Kevin.
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And I just was thinking when you were saying about, you know,
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watching over you, I used to growing up in K and I, we had
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chickens fighting chickens, you know, so the Mongoose, everybody
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knows they're, they're good hunters.
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And so in the chicken coop, once they can dig underneath the coop
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and they can get their head under, their whole body can
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slide right on there. And although the chickens have a
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perch, they'll jump close to the, the chicken and the chicken
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will freak out, jump off the perch and fly.
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They can't fly long. And once they hit the ground,
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it's over. So I would have to get the
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metal, metal roofing, right, the tin roofing.
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Dig, dig, dig, dig, dig. So they can't dig under it.
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But point I'm making is if you don't keep an eye on those
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chickens and protect them, they'll be snatched right from
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out from under you. Just like my, my family, we
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think parents, we think we have a long time with our children.
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We don't. And you know, when they move
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out, they can be living 2 miles away from you.
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You won't see them. So it's it's because of
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technology today, it doesn't benefit fit us.
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It's a burden. I see people that tasty crust
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eating and they're looking on their phones.
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They don't converse See growing up in Canada, we had no cable.
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And when we first moved on when we were growing up, we had we
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had the party line phone with the neighbors on the line
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talking about talking about ancient.
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So you have to actually talk to each other back then and that's
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the old Hawaiian days. They sat on one plot of land out
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who was from birth to death. I mean, they, they had
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relationships. That's that's wearing thin.
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Exactly, Doug and we talked about a story this morning
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whereby I bought my daughter a phone for her 13th birthday and
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she gave it back to me because one of the things she said that
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she hated me with this screen time, it consumed my life.
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We have so many distractions here to get us away from the
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basics of staying connected to God every single day and
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building that heart relationship with Him.
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That's why we're here. That's the 5th of main sin was
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that Adam and Eve separated that relationship from God and now we
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are are. The rest of our life should be
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spent pursuing that relationship and that connection back to Him.
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And we can only do that when we understand who God is through
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His Word. Yes and and the 2 greatest
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commands is loving God and loving others.
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So it's it's relationship with God, relationships with each
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other. So as we spend time with God, he
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says don't be anxious about anything but in everything by
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prayer and petition with Thanksgiving present your
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request to God and the peace of God, which transcends all
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understanding will guard your heart and your mind in Christ
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Jesus. Philippians 46 so transcends all
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understanding. He's looking for the sacrifice.
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When you seek me, you will find all the time, no, when you seek
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me with all your heart. So it's not the feeling of of
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doing it, it's the commitment. It's when you don't feel like
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spending time with God and you do.
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That's the act of love. Absolutely.
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here this afternoon, Wednesday afternoon.
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Joining us again is Brandon, our executive producer and pastor.
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Doug sitting here actually fellowshipping and just haven't
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got in our heart all day long. Top of the hour we talked about
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the Bible basics. Next song was our start in our
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daily spiritual routine where we start our day in the morning and
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we finish our day at night with God in our heart all the time.
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Just as if you were building a relationship with somebody that
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you wanted to potentially get married to.
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You'd want to spend your entire day waking up, getting to know
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them, talking to them, listening to them.
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In fact, they'll you always say, if you had the opportunity to
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sit with somebody who you admire and look up to, what would you
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do more talking or listening? And of course, our days are
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filled with conversation and listening to God throughout the
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day, starting your day off, getting before God and then all
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the way throughout the day. You know, just reflecting on
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yesterday and I'm getting up in the morning, sitting by the
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pool, doing my start, getting out the door to work, listening
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to the word on the way into my do my pickups.
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And then at my stops, I got my journal there.
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I'm going and I'm reflecting, I'm memorizing scripture, I'm
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talking. I got God in my heart all the
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time every day. And then when I go to bed at
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night, I do my clothes having that conversation with God,
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reflecting on my day, how could have, what could have done
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better, what could have done different.
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So that is the spiritual routine that Christ built ministry we
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follow. And it's about building
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relationships, spending time just like we want to spend time
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getting to know somebody to have part of our life as a husband or
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a wife dog. Yeah, and that's our.
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Part that is the covenant Testament means covenant or
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agreement. Jesus died on the cross for us
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to what to re to introduce us to God that his grace because of
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his love for us. Now his God's grace covers us.
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Now we have an opportunity to get to know God the father.
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Now if we don't want to we don't have to.
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That's why he didn't wire it in us like dogs they they
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reproduce. They breed my male dog you got
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to you got to grab it. You got to cage him and he
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whimpers because my female dog Milios in he he's wired that
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way. God didn't wire us to love him.
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He could have, but love has to be a choice.
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And that's why it's hard because we have to sacrifice our time,
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TV, phone, talking to other people, sports, family for God
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and that is a challenge. It's easier for a camera to
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enter the I have a needle than a rich person to enter the Kingdom
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of heaven and rich in deeds. Now we have a lot of things that
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can consume our time. We may not consider ourselves
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rich. We're not like Bezos or
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Zuckerberg, but we're a rich nation.
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We got $1000 phones. We got nice cars.
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We don't go, we don't we don't go hungry.
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And we have more than we deserve.
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We have things that take away from our time.
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We got just imagine if we were in prison.
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Prison was a blessing. And I would tell them that when
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I was a chaplain, I said, you know, you guys are blessed me
37:32
here. They look at me like, are you
37:33
crazy? The only reason why I could say
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that without getting mobbed is because I was in prison, so I
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had prison credit. But I took it.
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I took advantage of that time when I was away from my family.
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It broke my heart, but I wanted to make that time count.
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I had the keyword time. You got to make the time.
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And Doug, you always say? That, you know, love is an
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action. It's not a feeling.
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It's not an emotion that drives us and there's, you know, when,
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especially speaking, seeking God, a relationship with God
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because we're so geared in our life to go by emotion.
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And it's again, when we don't have that emotion, like you
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said, it's not wired into us. But when we make that sacrifice,
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that's the act of love, to show up and seek God even when we
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don't feel like it. Exactly.
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Especially when you don't feel like, see, when we feel like it,
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anybody can do it. You don't need God to do things
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that you feel like doing it. It's loving our enemy.
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When do we feel like loving our enemy?
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You know, never. But God can remove that
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bitterness and that hurt that that wound he can heal in our
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hearts. So we don't have diesel in our
38:48
engine, so to speak. Like I said, diesel will make
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our, no matter how big your truck is, how big the tires are,
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it'll make your, your vehicle malfunction.
38:56
Diesel, although it's a fuel, not the fuel for the engine of
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our regular cars here. Anger.
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Hate, bitterness, unforgiveness isn't has no place in my heart.
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He doesn't tell me to love my enemy because my enemy deserves
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it. He tells me to love my enemy
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because he doesn't want me to hurt again.
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It's like drinking poison and wishing somebody was dead.
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I'm killing myself. My enemy is, is, is having a
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time of their life. They're living their own life.
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I'm in my own bitter bubble. Right?
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Right. Exactly.
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Doug And you know, we can really only love like that.
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And I've experienced and you've taught me through building that
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daily relationship, starting off in our in our routine, going
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throughout the day. And what's the what's the
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byproduct of that is our hearts get healed.
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So then we want more of God and more of a relationship.
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And I witnessed this last week in my life where I had, you
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know, a personal testimony where something came up in my life.
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And normally it would bring me to my knees.
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And it was an that was the the fingerprint of God validating
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saying Kev. This is working because Doug,
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when I sat with him, hey, I promise you, I guarantee boom,
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do this and God will heal your heart and you'll start to having
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a deeper relationship with God and understanding why, why it's
40:13
important to make that sacrifice.
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So I just wanted to say, you know, grand.
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I always give you credit, Doug, because I'm in my place in my
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life, because I, number one, made the choice to make the
40:25
sacrifice, to step all in. Not halfway.
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I didn't feel like it a lot of time, but I didn't go by my
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feelings. I went by what I knew was the
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process of getting my heart healed, to build that daily
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relationship. Yeah, Kevin.
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God says in his word, Proverbs 1320.
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He who walks with the wise, the wise.
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So because you walk with me? No, I'm just joking.
40:47
Because I push you to. God, you become wise when you
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listen to Him now in the morning when you start your day, that is
40:54
admitting your sins. So we fall short when we at at
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the end of the day that L is to to to grade ourselves.
41:02
Look back at our day. What grade would I give myself?
41:04
I never got hired in a seat yet, You know, it's just I I should
41:08
be more grateful. I should be more loving, you
41:10
know, and I pray for my heart to change every day.
41:13
And the the the. Important part is the reflection
41:17
reflecting on my walk, you know, and when I the more I love the
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Lord, the more love I have to give to others, the more love I
41:25
have to overflow on to other people.
41:27
It's when the hurt is there or the negativity is there, that's
41:32
when the challenge comes. That's but that's the true test.
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It's applying his word in these storms.
41:39
And that's why if you don't spend time with God, you don't
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We don't just memorize his word so we we can say it, say it in
41:46
in in order or say it and impress people.
41:49
No, it's that's the sword to get through the storms.
41:52
When everything in US is telling drink, take pain pills, you
41:56
know, whatever our little emotional cocktail is to cope
42:00
with the problems of life, that voice is telling us to do it.
42:05
Drugs, you know, other other women, other men, whatever it
42:08
is, you know, another partner, adultery.
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So anything but God. And God is saying stay the
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course, apply my word to your life, Philippians, lift it up to
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me. Think of the blessings you have
42:23
and stay on the path. And after we get through that
42:27
storm, you feel the you feel the presence of the Lord, we're
42:31
going to feel scared. Where does the peace come from?
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It comes from our knowledge of walking with Him every day.
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We know He's with us. It doesn't matter how we feel
42:41
intellectually and in our hearts, we know He's with us.
42:45
We don't go by feeling like Kevin said, Love is an action A2
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a baby, an infant is crying at 2O clock in the morning.
42:53
How many parents want to get up and change the baby and feed
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them? They do it because they love
42:58
them and that's. The that's the action and that's
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the discipline of love. You know, Doug and I was just
43:03
thinking about something. You know, when the storms of
43:05
life do come and we do get distracted, it's most important
43:09
at that moment, just like when the storms are raging around the
43:12
boat and and you know, got the disciples are in the boat and
43:17
Jesus sound asleep and come on, wake up, you don't come.
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What's going on? And and what did he do?
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He calmed the storm. But it's important for us that
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we can only calm the storms in life.
43:27
And we know how to do that. It's not, it's not hoping.
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It's not, you know, that Mystic idea that God's going to calm
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the storm. When we have that intimate
43:36
relationship with Him, we understand that He's there for
43:39
us in the midst of those most challenging times of our life.
43:42
Yes, and. There's going to be signs.
43:45
He's going to give you signs. We call it altars, that you know
43:49
He's there where things that cannot be explained.
43:52
What is a miracle? A miracle is something that
43:54
science cannot explain. Jesus being risen from the dead
43:58
three days after three days of death, Lazarus, 4 days.
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Science cannot explain that. That's called a miracle.
44:04
How do you know it's spiritual when lot when it doesn't make
44:07
sense logically? This doesn't doesn't make sense.
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Why is this happening in my life?
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I'm saying cuz Kev, this is a training.
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This is not where you walk on the yellow brick road.
44:18
This is when you cling to God, you know, and it's not major
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events happening in your life like death, but it feels like
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it. And that's how you know it's
44:30
spiritual And that's the test and that's the the blessing.
44:33
That's why he says, consider pure joy when we face trials or
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problems of any kind And we have a song.
44:39
Thank you for the problems in our lives.
44:41
Those problems are there. For the very strategic reason to
44:45
build our hope and our faith in Jesus keeping eyes on him every
44:51
single day and you know for those of you listening out there
44:54
that it may sound like well, you know there's so much God so yeah
44:57
you know what absolutely so much God.
44:59
We have to have that in our lives.
45:00
So we're going to, you know, make that to make that goal in
45:03
our life to it for eternity. We and when we don't live our
45:07
lives from seeing this world that we're living in from that
45:10
eternal perspective, yeah, this becomes a job, as it were.
45:13
But you know what the reward is a relationship with God for
45:16
eternity, right? Doug and I got I.
45:19
I got one of my cars when I was younger I'm in high school.
45:21
I I lifted my Jeep from K and I we had mud bombs back then.
45:25
So I lifted one of my vehicles today with big tires on it.
45:28
It doesn't it doesn't function like it did when it had the
45:31
regular size tires on it. I have to go slower.
45:35
It weaves, you know, I mean, it's top heavy now.
45:37
So it's it's different. I change it from its original,
45:42
the original way the manufacturer manufactured it.
45:46
We engineered it and that's Oscar.
45:48
If we don't focus or we don't function in the area that we
45:54
were created to function in, we will malfunction.
45:57
We think we're functioning right.
45:58
But that's like when I used to drink a lot.
46:01
I mean, I, I quit drinking about four years ago, but back in the
46:04
day, like in my 20s, I woke up with a hangover every morning
46:07
and it was like normal. That's the normal way of
46:09
feeling. I didn't know how to feel
46:12
regular because normally I wake up with a hangover until I stop
46:16
drinking and then I'm like, wow. The point I'm making is when we
46:20
start walking in alignment with God, we'll see how much easier.
46:25
In the beginning, it's going to be hard because we're changing
46:27
and we don't like change. After we change, however, you'll
46:30
see the love. We'll see how we can forgive.
46:34
We can read God's Word and we're able to do what he wants us to
46:39
do. And it's not because it's
46:40
commands. It's because this is how we're
46:43
supposed to be from the beginning.
46:45
But sin came in and our parents didn't teach us this.
46:50
Exactly, Doug and. You know, you made a comment,
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you make this comment often to Doug talking about commands
46:55
working out. Once you have that relationship
46:58
with God, the commands are not burdensome.
47:02
There you, you want to please God because you know what he's
47:06
done for you. You know what had the sacrifice
47:08
that he made for you. So men, step it up, step it up,
47:12
step it up, be willing to make that sacrifice show up every
47:16
day. And that's what our coming back
47:18
to the top of the hour Bible basics, not understanding God in
47:21
his word, coming to our daily spiritual routine.
47:23
And that's the daily application of getting to build that daily
47:28
loving relationship with God. Yeah, and that's a.
47:30
Routine to keep us on track and that's all biblically based
47:35
where we hide our word in in his word in our hearts so we will
47:39
not sin against him. That's our sword.
47:41
When Satan is trying to deceive us, we know know what to do.
47:44
That's like going to the gym and not having a plan.
47:48
And you see people in the gym, they just wander around and they
47:51
look the same year after year after year.
47:53
There is no change with us. It has to be strategic according
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to God's word. Don't go on trusting in your
48:02
heart. Jeremiah 17/9 The heart is
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deceitful above all things. It's beyond cure.
48:08
We cannot cure it. In other words, only God can.
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Matthew 721 through 23. The heart is wicked, it's evil,
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it's self-centered and selfish. So you cannot trust your heart
48:21
unless it's transformed by the Holy Spirit using His Word.
48:25
No, His word will be what comes out of our heart.
48:29
Lovejoy, peace, patience, kindness, faithfulness,
48:32
gentleness and self-control will be overflowing when the Holy
48:35
Spirit is in US and He unclogs those hardened arteries.
48:40
Yeah. And that can only come, Doug,
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just as we said, if we want to get to know somebody, we want to
48:45
spend time every day with them. And spending time with God ends
48:49
up bringing that healing to our hearts.
48:51
So then we have that hunger in our hearts to actually want to
48:54
spend time with him, but we can't do that unless we have the
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word hidden in it. And it becomes a light into our
49:01
path and a light into our our Rd. that we walk.
49:04
And so so vital for us as as Christ built Christians, Christ
49:08
built men. And for those of you that are
49:09
listening out there, those of you that have that hurt in your
49:11
heart, how are you going to do that?
49:13
You know, counseling, medication, psychology,
49:16
whatever. Those are the band aids that we
49:18
put on over top of us. But the true way to heal and
49:23
live a life for God is to get in His Word, get your heart healed
49:27
and build that daily relationship.
49:29
Yes, and that's. When his, his divine power will
49:33
come and guarantee. And when I was the chaplain of
49:35
the prison here, that was the best training ground because
49:39
nothing majorly changes in their life.
49:41
They do the same thing every day pretty much.
49:45
So when the spiritual routine is implemented into their life, you
49:48
see change. When it's removed, you see the
49:53
not even the drift back. You see it in fall back.
49:55
Come on. I mean like clockwork.
49:59
And everyone. Else sees the change in them,
50:01
including the guards they see the change in.
50:04
And for some reason, God gave me the worst inmates, the most
50:07
challenging ones, put it that way.
50:10
And I didn't go and recruit. I just went in there.
50:13
The Holy Spirit said, just just be present.
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I'm going to bring people that I want you to train to lead.
50:18
And sure enough, he brought people to me.
50:21
And they, I see them out here now and they're, they're still,
50:24
they still know the Lord Hard part is now when you're in the
50:27
current of the world, if your roots aren't deep to make the
50:30
time to spend with him. Even if I've been walking with
50:33
the Lord 20 plus years is a struggle to read still, because
50:39
remember, we're not just doing this alone.
50:41
What does that mean? Satan is our enemy.
50:43
He's prowling around like a roaring lion looking for someone
50:46
to devour first Peter 589. He's looking to steal, kill and
50:51
destroy. He's trying to talk me into not
50:54
reading, not. Spending.
50:55
Time with God. I got it already.
50:58
You know already you don't have to do it.
50:59
Come on down. Doug and I, and I witness that
51:01
myself, you know, as easy as it may sound, you know, to, you
51:05
know, to adhere to this, you know, spiritual routine.
51:09
I noticed just even one day, if I don't do my start, if I don't
51:13
at least read some scripture, man, we drift away really
51:17
quickly again, because that's not wired in us.
51:20
Like you said, Doug, we have to make that sacrifice every day,
51:24
correct? And it's no.
51:25
Remember, it's not a religion. It's not religious.
51:29
Come on. What does that mean?
51:30
Come on, that means when we read and we pray for the Holy Spirit
51:34
to change our hearts. Help me to want to Father, help
51:37
me to love you. And we continuously make the
51:41
effort denying ourselves. Paul says I punish my body like
51:45
an athlete, treating it roughly, training it to do what it should
51:48
not what it wants to. Otherwise, I fear after
51:51
enlisting others for the race, so to speak, race to heaven.
51:54
I myself may be declared unfit in order to stand the sign.
51:59
So the main part is our relationship.
52:01
We got not the works now, not the good deeds, not going out
52:06
and paying homes or or helping the, the, the line of fire
52:10
victims, which is great, but what, what, how do we, how do we
52:13
want to help? But what is the core because we
52:15
love the Lord, we love them, so we want to help.
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Come on, Doug. And that's what we're here for.
52:21
Men helping men to build. Christ built strong men.
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Thank you again for joining us here this Wednesday afternoon.
52:27
We look forward to seeing you next week.
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