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Real Health, Real Connection: Holistic Hilda on What We’ve Lost and How to Get It Back · Everyday Ancestral with James Barry

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  we have to do things that lift our hearts, that bring us joy, whether it's music, prayer,
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  connection with others, every community I've been a part of, and I think particularly
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  of the Ecuadorian community, like they had music, they had connection, they shared meals together,
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  like this is a piece that we would do well to revisit, because what good is all the right
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  pieces in place of movement and nutrition and, you know, getting the sun if you're downcast
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  and sad and feeling isolated and lonely.
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  Welcome back to Everyday Ancestral on Rehost James Berry. I am so excited to share our next guest,
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  Hilda, Labrada, Gore, aka Holistic Hilda. Truly the only person I know who has found
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  the fountain of youth. I've known her now, oh I want to say four years, and no joke she's actually
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  reversing an age. She's getting younger. She feels like she's aging backwards as she taps into
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  all these health paradigms and learns and applies these learnings to her life. Let's talk about
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  Hilda. So she's a certified health coach. She's kind of like Dora the Explorer, but 2.0. She's
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  traveled extensively as an experiential anthropologist. She's gone to Mongolia, Peru, Ethiopia,
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  Ecuador, Kenya, Australia, among all the other places she's been, with the objective of exploring
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  traditional practices to improve the energy and vitality of humanity. Hilda is the host and
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  producer of the Wise Traditions podcast on behalf of the West Bay Prize Foundation. That podcast
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  has had over 14.000 million downloads to date. Hilda shares the best of experts, experiences,
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  and epic adventures on the podcast and on her Holistic Hilda YouTube channel and in person
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  at conferences and retreats. Hilda truly does have energy to spare because she keeps her
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  feet on the ground and her face to the sun and that's true. She really does walk a talk. She's
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  always out in the sun, always soaking in the good vibes and sharing them with those around her.
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  Welcome to everyday ancestral. Please enjoy Holistic Hilda. The word on the street
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  is it your change in your name from Holistic Hilda to ice plunge Hilda is that true?
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  That is not true. That's just a rumor. No, I've been loving the scene all your health modalities
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  that you're doing on your Instagram and whatnot. You've been doing fantastic travels. You've been
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  going to Ecuador, Mongolia, Ethiopia, hosting the Wise Traditions podcast. You're learning all
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  these things from amazing influencers and practitioners around the world. What is the best of what
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  you're soaking in and taking? It has been a phenomenal ride. I'm literally just like holding on.
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  I'm feeling like, well, let's do this. Life does that for us. I never would have thought 12, 15
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  years ago what I'm doing today would be my job asking people questions like you as the host
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  of a podcast, but also getting to be with them in their context. I've been happy to report James
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  that everywhere I go, I see people who are still living according to their traditions. I find
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  it so fascinating. Let me just say it's not just dietary traditions or ancestral traditions
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  related to nature and so forth, though I do see those things, but it's also the importance of
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  connection and community. I'll give you an example. I was recently in Mexico in Oaxaca and Oaxaca
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  is the cradle of traditional foods in Mexico. I was so excited to try some of them. I went off
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  the beaten path because I was there for a conference called ferment Oaxaca, but I was like, okay,
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  let me get with the abuela, so there are off the beaten path and see what I can find out and
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  experience. Of course, I had Chapulina, Spitzer Grasshoppers, which they enjoy as a delicacy,
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  and blood and meat tacos and all the things, but what struck me the most was actually when I was
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  leaving this abuela, it's like backyard restaurant kind of thing. It was amazing. My husband and I
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  were kind of stranded to be honest with you. We had taken a taxi there and the taxi guys like,
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  I can't wait around for you. I'm sorry, I have to go. I'll call my friend Jesus to come get you.
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  Well, Jesus never showed up. Honestly, we're like, shoot, he didn't show off. What are we going to do?
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  So we started talking to this man and he's like, yeah, this is my first visit here. I just found out
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  about this place. It's called Maís, Cocina Tradicional that this woman started in her backyard.
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  The next thing we knew, my husband and I were in the car of this random man with his wife and
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  daughter and they were giving us a ride like back to the main drag so we could catch a taxi and I was
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  like, I don't even know you and the lady was giving me her phone number. Like, you've got to visit us
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  next time you're in Wahaka and I was like, this kind of connection and hospitality. You just don't
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  find in the US. This is my experience. Most of us are like looking at our devices. We're too connected
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  virtually to be connected in person. So when I travel, I do have my eyes wide open to see what
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  health traditions are people still keeping. Some of them include like this aspect of connection with
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  each other, which we have to hold on to before we lose it all together.
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  Oh yeah. Isn't it fascinating? We have more technology to connect, but that same technology is
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  resulting in disconnection. I just find that fascinating. It is fascinating and you know,
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  you've probably heard tell of communities or tribal peoples who would say, don't take my picture
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  because it steals my soul. And I've come to realize these devices are doing something to us.
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  They're kind of sucking away and dribbles and drabs at our humanity. We become almost robotic
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  as we're entertained and the word entertain has to do with being held onto. We're being taken
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  captive when the people around us and life around us nature is so much more fascinating, so much
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  more vibrant and full of life. And I have seen the saddest circumstances in my own neighborhood.
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  This was only about a couple of months ago now, but I was walking past a truck. Parents were in
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  the truck with their little girl. She must have been maybe three years old. And she was looking
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  out the window like almost like someone helped me and I looked more closely and both her parents
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  were on their phone. And I thought, here's this little girl desperate for someone to notice her.
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  Now maybe they were looking for directions to where they were going and maybe the wife was texting
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  saying, we'll be late. Sorry, but I was just like, oh my gosh, this is so telling. So I want to
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  invite people back to traditions like connection with one another. And yes, food that truly nourishes
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  and all the things. And I've come to realize on my travels that there are basically what I like to
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  call six ancestral secrets, because I'm big on alleration. But there are six ancestral secrets that
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  we would do well to harken back to that will help us boost our energy and vitality. And so that's
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  kind of what I'm about right now. I'm definitely hosting the wise traditions podcast. I love all the
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  people I get to talk to so they inform my understanding of the world, but then I see it with my own eyes.
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  I know you're creating programs around these, but what are the titles of the six?
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  Okay, thank you so much for asking. I can say them pretty succinctly now because I love them so much.
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  And they're so basic, but let me just say this, just because they're simple doesn't mean they should
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  be overlooked. And you understand this as well as I do because of your work with pluck and so forth
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  that simple nourishing foods can go far. And sometimes it takes a while for the science to catch up
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  to that traditional wisdom, right? So I think people are like, oh yeah, I've heard that before, but
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  are you applying it to your life? And if so, how is it impacting it? So yeah, I have a little
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  course about these secrets, but I'll just tell you right off the bat. Sun is the first one because
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  I consider it like the great multivitamin in the sky. It energizes all of our body's functions,
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  including the hormones and the cognitive function. I like to say sunrise before screen rise,
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  because it's that important. I get out and get the sun first thing. So sleep is another and that's
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  related. What if we honored our sleep and understood that it was a detoxing mechanism? You know,
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  when I was in Ethiopia last summer, I got to meet with some tribes along the Omo Valley and they
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  had no electricity. So they were living according to nature's rhythms. When the sun rises,
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  they got up and they would have like a little tribal ceremony and a lot of the tribes I visited.
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  When the sun goes down, it's either a fire or lights out. And there is nothing artificial that's
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  interfering with the melatonin release and so forth. So their sleep is profound. They're sleeping on
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  goat skins and calf skin. So they're connected to the ground and they sleep in small heads
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  with their nuclear family. So there's connection with each other. I mean, I could go on and on. But
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  so it's sun, sleep shivers as you intimated early on. I think it's important for us to experience
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  the elements, right? We're far too comfortable and so on mitochondria don't have to work. And they
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  kind of get fat and lazy and you want exhilarating and vibrant mitochondria in number and in energy.
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  So they are boosted by experiencing the elements and having your body have to regulate your
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  temperature for lack of a better way of putting it. Then there's sustenance, which you know, I'm a
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  big fan of really looking for the most bang for our buck. Sometimes we go the other way around.
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  We're like, oh, it's an all-you-can-eat buffet. That's great. Let me just see what I can cram in.
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  But just because you're satisfied with your palate doesn't mean your body has been well nourished.
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  So I'm big on sustenance, nutrient density in particular. And then the fifth and the sixth are
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  strength because everywhere I go, people are moving. It is true of languages, but also people,
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  if you don't use it, you will lose it. So you need to move your muscles and be intentional,
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  especially if your work is sedentary. The last secret, which I actually think is the most important,
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  has to do with spirit. We have to do things that lift our hearts, that bring us joy,
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  whether it's music, prayer, connection with others, every community I've been a part of. And I think
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  particularly of the Ecuadorian community, they had music, they had connection, they shared meals
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  together. This is a piece that we would do well to revisit because what could is all the right
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  pieces in place of movement and nutrition and getting the sun if you're downcast and sad and
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  feeling isolated and lonely. I'll tell you, it's no good. So this is why I try to incorporate these
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  into my day every day and then share them with others. And it shows in your spirit because you
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  live in such spiritual abundance and energetic abundance. Now you just mentioned something that I
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  find really fascinating because I think a lot of what informs us of what's working or not is
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  contrast. Let's bring up EMFs, for example. So EMFs are something that a lot of people don't
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  feel. They don't sense because they don't have the contrasts of not living around EMFs. But you do
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  in these tribes where there's no electronics said, what did you notice? What did you feel?
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  It's the same feeling James that people get when they go camping. They're not just happy because
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  they're away from the demands of work, but it's because your body has a time to relax. Your nervous
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  system can kind of reset when you get your feet on the ground at the beach. Again, when people
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  are on vacation, they think, oh, I'm just feeling great because I'm out of the office. That's not the
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  only reason. It's because you're getting the earth's frequency instead of these non-native
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  electromagnetic frequencies that man makes. The problem is, to be honest with you, is sometimes we
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  only measure things by what's visible to our eyes. And we see a very, very narrow band of light
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  and things around us when there's a lot more going on than meets the eye. I think I interviewed
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  a guy, George Carlo, who said, if we could see the frequencies that we're surrounding us right
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  now, this room would be filled with smoke as if it were cigarette smoke like we would be astounded
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  by how much is bombarding us. So we don't see it. So we think it's not affecting us, but it is.
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  It's like a burden that our bodies are carrying and it's like a scientifically they call it a
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  positive charge. That sounds like it's good, but it's a positive charge that kind of is wiring us.
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  If your cortisol feels through the roof, sometimes if you're just like, oh, I just, I've got to get
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  away. I just want to throw this laptop or you know, get out of this kitchen or whatever. It might
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  not be just that things are on your last nerve. It may be that you're literally being kind of fried.
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  So it's important to pay attention. I would say at the very least where your router is in your home
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  and turn it off at night because yes, when I get to these places like by the Omo Valley,
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  people are barefoot. There's no frequencies right in their immediate vicinity and there's a lot more
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  peace and calm and joy. And if you don't believe me, just experience it yourself, experiment with it,
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  go camping, go to the beach, see what it's like to have your phone away from you for a couple of
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  hours, even, and you'll feel the difference because what we don't realize is when we have our
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  devices also, by the way, every time we touch it, we're getting into some mini zap. And so it's
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  not just the light that's interfering with our circadian rhythm and so forth, but it's also the
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  energy that's being emitted from that device. So our devices were meant to serve us. They're good,
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  I use mine too, for sure, but we had to make sure that we own them and they don't own us.
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  Back in the day when I was cooking for celebrity that I had to have, I had one of those motorola,
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  it wasn't a pager, but it was, there's a whole name for it, but it's so old that this one,
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  I don't remember the name of it. It was so fascinating because I wore it on my hip because I had to
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  be always in touch and it wasn't as well known then what kind of resulted from that. And I would feel
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  it in my body before it went off. So I would know a text or whatever was coming in and the machine
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  hadn't even gone off yet. I would feel it. And then maybe 30 seconds later, it would go off. I mean,
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  that just says so much right there. It does say so much. And I'm so glad you're bringing this up
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  because I just think we are sacrificing our health sometimes for these modern conveniences.
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  And I've interviewed people in the Wise Traditions podcast about movement, for example,
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  and I'll never forget. I think it was Rhonda Patrick. She's the found my fitness girl. She's like,
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  even how we don't need to turn a key to start a car anymore, you just push a button. Or you know,
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  we don't have to get up to change the channel on our TV in the old days, people you had to get
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  up and do it. Like those micro movements, the loss of them is affecting us. And so in the same
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  way, we just think, Oh, how convenient I can order a door dash or how convenient I can just
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  text my brother in law. That's great. But what's missing because of that? You know, and what are the
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  effects? There's so many. So I do my best to give parameters or boundaries to my tech. So we turn
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  our Wi-Fi off at night. I think even on my holistic health website, I have a little device you can buy.
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  It's not hard to use, but it just makes it easier. You don't even have to be near the router to
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  click it off at night. That's one thing we do. And then we also charge our phones outside of our
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  bedroom so that we're not getting even that pinging happening back and forth all the time.
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  It's interesting. I have to tell you a story. So I was with this little seven-year-old girl,
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  neighbor girl yesterday. We've become besties. That's so much fun. Because I do have that kid
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  like spirit, right? But anyway, we're working on a little project together. She saw me put my phone
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  on airplane mode after I recorded something we did. And she's like, why'd you put out an airplane
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  mode? And I thought to me, it's second nature. This kid has no idea. Her parents probably have
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  their phones on all the time. I said, well, there are waves. And what's happening is the phone is
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  trying to kind of ping and see where it can get information from. And I want to stop that. She was
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  surprised. And so I think as I'm putting boundaries, that's modeling it for others around me. So
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  even if the people around you were just on their phones all the time, like I just wait till they
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  make eye contact with me to start talking again, because it can be a distraction for that in person
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  connection too, as I was mentioning. Yeah, it's a real testimony that we only know what we know.
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  Right? If you're not introduced to something, then you really don't necessarily understand or
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  know it. And you don't know to look or feel for it. You might feel something, but you don't know
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  what it is. And until you have a label or some awareness of what it could be, you just don't
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  know. You think it's normal. Yes. And so that's why I was saying we did experiment with being
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  away from our phones because we're so used to being electrified all the time. We think this level
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  of agitation is normal. And I did read the invisible rainbow by Arthur Firstenberg. And in there,
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  he said, you know that the diagnosis of anxiety didn't come about until the electrification of
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  our cities. In other words, when cities in the late 1800s and early 1900s, starting putting up
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  lampposts, people started getting anxious and they didn't know why. So they put it in their
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  psychology book that this is a diagnosis anxiety, but he suspects it's linked to this condition
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  of being around. And notice that wasn't even electromagnetic frequencies in terms of unwired.
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  It was all wired at the time, but now we've got wireless stuff around us all the time. So yeah,
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  I want people to test on themselves what it feels like to be like I said away from the phone or
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  getting your feet on the ground, making these small shifts because this is also not just kind of
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  woo-woo information that I'm into it. I do some of that in my life for sure, but fill up the head
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  of LilaQ. I don't know if you've heard of that company, but they've developed these quantum
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  blocks and little quantum capsules that you can wear. I like them a lot because they have been
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  scientifically tested. And so Beverly Rubik, who is someone I've had on the podcast,
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  who's a scientist who's done some studies on these things, she studied what happens if you've
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  got your cell phone in a backpacker in a purse on your body. And she noticed that the blood had
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  a tendency to clump. And as we all know, we don't want clumpy blood, you know, you want it to kind
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  of flow, right? So she tested these blocks and noticed that they de-clumped the blood basically
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  in layman's terms. And I'm like, okay, that's cool. And that's something I want and need. Why?
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  I personally live in a city even though I look like a country girl. And I do fly a lot. And I'm
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  exposed to a lot of radiation. So I'm trying to do what I can to mitigate its effects on my life.
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  I also spend time barefoot outside. I connect with nature a lot. And I do travel a lot to get out of
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  the city, to be honest, to be in these rural places where I know there's not a lot bombarding me
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  so my body has a chance to rest. In many ways, you are on a pursuit very much with this podcast
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  is about, which is why you're such a fantastic guest. But the idea of let's take the best from the
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  past and bring it to the present. We're looking back towards our ancestral roots and we're trying
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  to bring those and reconnect our modern society to those. Yet you are very much here
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  because of modern medical practices. Can you talk about what was discovered when you were
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  young? And then technically you wouldn't be here if that surgery wasn't possible. Those modern
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  techniques, right, at the time. So I'd love to hear your thoughts on that. I'm so glad you brought
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  it up to make a long story short. I was born with a birth defect and my childhood was very shaky
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  because of it. I was born with a ventricular septal defect, which is a hole in the heart between the
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  lower two ventricles. And so the blood was flowing in a direction. It shouldn't flow. It wasn't
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  oxygenating properly. The doctors literally called me a blue baby because any baby born with that
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  condition was labeled blue because their blood wasn't oxygenating, right? And they didn't know
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  how long I would live. So they monitored me for a number of years thinking maybe this will heal
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  on its own. It did not. So when I was nine years old, they performed open heart surgery. And even as I
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  say that, I'm like mind blown, I was so little. And this is before the days they could do it in
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  like fancy ways. They literally like sawed me open, cracked open my ribcage, you know, put my body
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  on ice and sewed up the heart, put it back in and then said, you can do whatever you want. And I was
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  like, well, first, and I think this is where I get some of my spiritual roots, I was like, I want
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  to thank God because I might not have even made it to this planet, you know, and I feel like you
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  used the surgeon's skill to save me. So that was the first thing I wanted to do. But then I started
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  thinking, I want to make sure that my body stays as healthy and as strong for as long as possible.
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  And then as I got older, I realized I want to help other people do the same. Now, interestingly,
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  I didn't enter the medical field. You might have thought I did. But there was something James
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  and I've never said this on a podcast before, but it's true. There was something about being in
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  the hospital as often as I was as a kid for the monitors, for the catheterization and all things
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  that I didn't like. I don't know if I was just, you know, seeing as, oh, that's the little kid,
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  patient, you know, in the room to be or I don't know what it was about the system. But I
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  rebelled against it inside. So for example, I remember on the 14th floor at the National Institutes
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  of Health where I had my surgery, there was a little play area for young children who were patients.
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  I went up there as often as I possibly could because I had to get away from all the monitors
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  and the beeping. Did alopathic or conventional medicine save my life? I would say yes. I would say
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  those surgeons knew what they were doing. They sewed up the heart. I've been problem-free ever
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  since with that heart situation. But I somehow knew also that the best way to care for my body
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  was to stay away as far as possible from hospitals. And so I'm not saying they don't have their
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  place. But what I'm saying is I want to do it and live my life in such a way that I'm preventing
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  a hospital visit or stay. So I am getting outside. I'm exercising every day. I'm eating food
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  at nurses. I'm doing all those secret things. And I am so hail and hearty. I have never felt
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  better in my life to be honest with you. I'm just so thankful. So this is what I would suggest
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  for most people. If you need an alopathic or a conventional medical solution, don't be afraid of
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  it. You can invite it. But why not do the best you can to stack your hacks as I like to say
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  so that you never have to go there in the first place? That is incredible. And I have to testify
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  that you are a Benjamin button. Every time I see you, you seem younger. And even looking at you
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  now, you're glowing and you just have this young, vibrant energy. And of course you can say,
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  well, that's spirit. Or that's just my least on life. But it's got to be also the health
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  modalities that you're practicing daily, wouldn't you say? Yes, I would definitely say that. I am
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  more peaceful, more joyful, more present than I have ever been in my life because James, I've
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  always been a go-getter. I did everything all full out. You know, I taught exercise classes. I was
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  ahead of the PTA. I was a worship leader for years. Like I just was unstoppable. And that's great.
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  But what I did not realize at the time is even though there weren't even that many devices
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  back in the day, I wasn't always present and peaceful. You know, I was very agenda driven.
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  It might be a function of my age now, but I think it's also a function of wisdom that does come
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  with that too, that I've learned to like slow down and really connect with people, with myself,
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  with nature. So I just feel better than ever. And a little insight for your audience too. I am
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  not dying my hair anymore. So even though I might look younger, I know some age is showing there,
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  but I'm like, this feels so good to me too. I'm like, why was I dying my hair? And was that some kind
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  of social morey that I took on? I don't know. But I'm like so happy to be as natural as possible,
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  because I think that is a key to living that joyful, peaceful, present life that I'm enjoying so much
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  today. Well, you mentioned in other articles and podcasts that, you know, when you were growing
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  up, you felt a bit like an outsider that you weren't accepted for who you are. So what I hear
• 23:34
  you saying is that you very much accept who you are now. And if anything, you kind of put it
• 23:39
  front and center of like the badge of honor in a sense. But what do you think was the shift for
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  that? You know, I kind of call it the linchpin or that crossroad. When do you think that was in
• 23:49
  your life? And what do you think caused it? Wow. This is deep. Well, I'll go back to my childhood.
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  So I was raised by a dad from Cuba and a mom from Mexico. And so I was Latina by birth and by
• 24:02
  blood. But born and raised in a very kind of white suburban neighborhood, very homogenous. So
• 24:09
  I think in that sense, I felt different because at home, we spoke Spanish. But then with everyone
• 24:14
  else, I spoke English and I just didn't feel like I fit in. But I've come to now realize that
• 24:20
  here's a little secret. Nobody really fits in. And whether we trying to fit into
• 24:27
  who are we modeling after? Yes. So I had a big aha in middle school, I will say or maybe it was high
• 24:33
  school. I was trying to fit in with this little pom pom squad. This is like dance team I was on.
• 24:38
  And I would go a lunchtime to sit with what I considered like the cool table, you know. And these
• 24:43
  kids were just not nice to me. And after a while, I thought, why am I trying to sit with some people
• 24:49
  who are unkind? And I just made a shift. And I remember a friend of mine saying, I am so proud of you
• 24:54
  for coming to sit with us because I was realizing it's not worth it to try to conform to their
• 24:58
  standards. And so I would say the reinvention or the the release or unveiling of holistic
• 25:05
  hell that as she really is has been a gradual process. There wasn't really one linchpin moment.
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  But I will say that the more I interview people on the wise regions podcast who think outside
• 25:15
  the box, the more I realized, hey, I like this way of thinking. I like having curiosity and not
• 25:23
  accepting everything at face value. I think 2020 was an example of that too. There were a lot of
• 25:27
  things we were told about the sickness that was around us or even the solution to the sickness that
• 25:32
  I was like, I don't think so. My spirit doesn't feel right with that. So ironically, as the world
• 25:38
  became smaller and people were unlocked down and afraid to go anywhere, I feel like I became more
• 25:44
  of who I was meant to be. So those are some of the things that have shaped me and who I am today.
• 25:49
  You're interviewing and you're speaking at events, you're constantly around people that are
• 25:54
  really looked at. And I know you're looked at this way too, but I'm curious how you see them.
• 26:00
  These are people that looked at as the top of their fields as as major influencers, major
• 26:06
  leaders within health. In those environments, do you ever feel imposter syndrome? And if you do,
• 26:13
  how do you care take yourself in those moments? Yes. Oh, thank you so much for asking. You know,
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  it's interesting because I think it's very easy to look at any group and think, why am I not
• 26:26
  a part of that one? So I'll be honest with you as a podcaster. There was a time where I was like
• 26:31
  knocking on other fellow podcasters' doors. People at my same level, I'm not going to mention
• 26:35
  your names, but maybe a smidge bigger, but not a lot. And I'd be like, hey, have me on your show,
• 26:40
  have me on your show. And after a while I realized, oh my gosh, yes, I am reliving my middle school
• 26:45
  years. This is ridiculous. Why am I begging to be on their show? If the time is right,
• 26:51
  they're going to come find me. And I also realized, I don't need to conform, you know, a bunch of
• 26:57
  these guys are just, you know, let's say 30, 40 something, you know, white guys. And I'm like, I'm
• 27:02
  an older woman now. I'm Latina. Like I have my own secret spice and sauce. So why don't I just
• 27:08
  embrace that? So I think one thing is awareness, awareness of attitudes or thought patterns
• 27:15
  that we may have put into play because of our past. And then the second thing is gratitude.
• 27:21
  So if I ever do feel left out and it does happen from time to time or like a little twinge of
• 27:26
  why them and not me, you know, I turn it around to the things I can be grateful for. And I've also
• 27:32
  started doing this practice, which is fun. I think to myself, let's say I see someone that has
• 27:36
  a hundred thousand more followers than me on Instagram, which by the way, that numbers game,
• 27:41
  it's just very easy to get sucked into the comparison. Anyway, when I look at other people and they've
• 27:47
  got more followers than me, I sometimes think, do I want their life? And I realize, no, I don't want
• 27:53
  their life. I don't envy what they have as a whole. And that's when I look at my own life,
• 27:58
  I think, oh my gosh, I'm so happy. And I'm happily married. I've got four children, young adult
• 28:03
  children. And we love them. And I get to travel the world like you said, I've had so many things.
• 28:07
  And even if all of it burned up and smoked tomorrow, it doesn't do my heart any favors to be
• 28:14
  looking out there with envy. So I try to look at what I have with gratitude. So those are some
• 28:20
  ways I refocus and reframe what's happening. Is that where your childhood of faith and religion
• 28:26
  come and you think, or is this something you've just learned over time? Wow, you're good at asking
• 28:31
  questions. I think my faith came in early because my life was so shaky. I have to believe in
• 28:38
  something bigger than me because I can't count on my heart or my body or even my parents divorced
• 28:43
  when I was 11, you know, so things felt very unstable. Before I even knew anything of God as I
• 28:49
  understood him, I was ready to believe. So my best friend was Catholic. And so I would go to church
• 28:54
  with her on Sundays. And I just thought, oh, this feels so good and feels so right to me like
• 28:58
  thanking God and they would have all these rituals. This is the mystery of faith. And I told my friend
• 29:02
  as a mystery to me, I don't understand the mystery of faith. I'm just hanging in there, but I liked
• 29:06
  it. So I was ready to believe. And then after my heart surgery four or five years later, a doctor
• 29:14
  said to me, you know, the cross might not have been like this. It might have been just like a
• 29:18
  T shape. And that's exactly the shape of your scar. And I was like, oh my gosh, I've been marked.
• 29:25
  And I've been marked with like a sign of like my body is not my own. It's a temple of the Holy
• 29:30
  Spirit. And so I was predisposed to believe in the gospel when I heard that God loved me and
• 29:35
  sent a son to die for me. I was like, okay, I'm in because that's the kind of love I needed.
• 29:40
  A kind of love that was bigger than my parents love. A love that was bigger than the the fickle
• 29:44
  love of the middle schoolers. And when let me sit at their table, you know, even in my own love so
• 29:48
  many times, James, we judge ourselves and criticize ourselves. And we're so unkind to ourselves.
• 29:55
  We need to be reminded that we are beautiful and designed to love and to be loved. And I just
• 30:01
  think we just all need so much more grace. So that was the trajectory in my faith. And then
• 30:05
  I became a worship leader, which is so cool also in God's economy that nothing is wasted because
• 30:09
  all those years of playing the guitar in front of crowds of people ready to worship the Lord.
• 30:14
  They weren't worshiping me. But the point I'm making is it taught me how to communicate. And so
• 30:19
  when I became a podcaster, I felt like I was ready and then a speaker and so forth. So I just
• 30:24
  love this about life. Like it's just such a beautiful journey. And I I do want to say
• 30:30
  wherever people are on their faith journey or their health journey, I do think this spirit
• 30:34
  piece really matters. And I think how we see ourselves really matters. When I was in Ecuador,
• 30:40
  I met a healer woman, a bartera, and curandera. She was a midwife and a healer. Mama
• 30:46
  prosita colta. And she said to me, because she had seen so many births, she said,
• 30:50
  no, our cuerpo es sagrado. And if she said it once, she said 100 times in our conversation,
• 30:56
  our body is holy, our body is holy. And I thought later, if we could let that sink in somehow,
• 31:03
  I think it would change how we nourish ourselves, how we spend our time, how we see others.
• 31:09
  Like if we really realized how miraculously beautiful we are, it would change everything.
• 31:14
  So I think that does help my spirit. And it definitely informs everything I do.
• 31:19
  It's a beautiful reminder. I mean, I sometimes joke with people. It's like, isn't it
• 31:24
  miraculous that we can live in such a toxic world for so long? People can actually live with chronic
• 31:30
  illness for so long as a sign of how amazing the body is. I have to imagine that you didn't
• 31:37
  grow up eating like this. So in obviously you went through that miraculous life change of
• 31:44
  having a defect and then that getting fixed. But when did the diet piece come in? And how did it
• 31:49
  look when you were growing up versus when it changed? Yeah. So my parents, when they came to this country,
• 31:56
  got on the treadmill that a lot of immigrants do. They were both working. So it was fast foods and
• 32:02
  frozen dinners and so forth. We had a nanny who would cook now and then. But when my parents
• 32:07
  divorced, that was all over. I wasn't necessarily given the best base of nutrition. And so I didn't
• 32:14
  understand that. As a matter of fact, I remember thinking that cooking was kind of something that the
• 32:18
  the peasants did, if you will. Like my parents kind of looked down their noses at food like we don't
• 32:23
  care about those things. You know, so I was like giving it very little attention. And when I got into
• 32:28
  the health and wellness space, I became a fitness instructor. So I taught group fitness classes
• 32:33
  several times a week. And I loved it. And I thought, okay, it doesn't matter what you fuel your
• 32:36
  body with. Just move it, move it. And so I was big on that. But it didn't really work completely
• 32:42
  for me because I would find in the middle of classes, I was teaching like I would start to get
• 32:47
  really sweaty and shaky. And it wasn't that I like pushed past a certain level, but it was a blood
• 32:52
  sugar dip because all I had had for breakfast was like cereal with some 2% milk and some berries.
• 32:57
  It wasn't enough to sustain the level of activity that I was challenging my body with. So I still
• 33:03
  didn't know where to go. I would just grab a power bar and be like, okay, I'm just one of those
• 33:06
  people that needs to graze all the time until a good friend of mine said, hey, Hilda, you might want
• 33:12
  to check out this West and a price foundation because as I've started to change my diet, my friend
• 33:17
  told me to lean more toward wise traditions. I've started to regain my health. And this is a friend
• 33:23
  who was very chronically ill actually. And so I was like, huh. And I started thinking about it. And
• 33:28
  then again, with my faith background, I was like, wait, what God makes is beautiful and good. And
• 33:33
  what we make often screws stuff up. So of course, this makes sense that the local seasonal organic
• 33:39
  traditional foods, the single ingredient foods are the ones that are going to nourish us best. And
• 33:43
  the stuff in packages is filled with preservatives and additives that are probably not doing our
• 33:49
  bodies any favors. So I started making that shift. And what I did was actually, I just tried to
• 33:54
  make one change a year because I was like, you know what, it's too much to empty the whole cabinet
• 33:58
  of seed oils and you know, start all over and read every single label. So I just literally started
• 34:04
  with butter. I was like, okay, I'm going to put away the country crock, which I now know is a crock.
• 34:09
  You know, I'm like, none of that stuff. We're going to just do butter. It's the year of butter.
• 34:12
  I was almost going to do like the Chinese calendar, the year of the ox, the year of the monkey, the year
• 34:15
  of butter, you know, the year of no processed foods. And so we just gradually made a change. And
• 34:21
  some people say to me, well, did your family complain? No, they were ecstatic because until that
• 34:26
  time I had not paid attention exactly to what we eat. Like I would just literally dinner might be
• 34:32
  I'd put bagels in the toaster oven and actually this isn't a bad idea. Maybe if you get sour dough
• 34:36
  ones, but anyway, a bagels in the toaster oven slathered with some tomato sauce and some cheese on
• 34:40
  top. And it was like bagel pizzas on my there you go kids, you know, but they were often still
• 34:45
  hungry. They would say, you know, can we have something else? And after what I'd say, the kitchen
• 34:50
  is closed because I still hadn't figured out that I needed to lean more into the proteins and the
• 34:53
  fats and the organ meats, right? So it's been a process there too. I would say for the past 15
• 34:58
  years. And now I'm happy to say my young adult kids are like, do you have any raw milk mom? Are they
• 35:04
  come by and raid our freezer for the quarter cow? We got recently and I'm just like this is so good
• 35:11
  because they've also learned that the nourishment piece is really critical. But I do want to say to
• 35:16
  you and to the listener like, don't feel like you have to take it on all at once. I see these people
• 35:20
  on Instagram and I love them. You know, the ones that are making everything from scratch from the
• 35:24
  sourdough to the firmens to, you know, the very fancy meal that there's spouse ones. But I'm like,
• 35:31
  you know what, it doesn't have to be fancy. You can literally just start with getting food from a
• 35:35
  local farmer. I use farm match and I love it. But food from a local farmer like the meat. Max
• 35:40
  came. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, exactly. Just get some good meat, get some raw milk, a little
• 35:45
  firmens and some sweet potatoes and some butter and you've got dinner and it's so satiating. Like,
• 35:50
  if I fed my kids back in the day, what I'm feeding my family now, like they wouldn't have been
• 35:56
  still hungry after dinner, you know, or still hungry after their school. I mean, lunch, I sent
• 36:01
  with them to school. So yeah, I look back now and I'm like, shoot, I could have done some things
• 36:05
  differently, but all we can do is move forward, right? So start to make those gradual shifts and then
• 36:10
  again, see what happens in your family and in your own life. Now, but you also travel a lot though.
• 36:15
  So how are you managing, you know, because as we all know, it's impossible really to be healthy
• 36:21
  when you're eating out. So you really have to, when you're traveling and you are being mindful
• 36:26
  of what you're eating, you have to kind of pre-plan, right? So and sometimes you can't even pre-plan
• 36:33
  if you're gone a long time. So how are you managing that? You have to do the best you can wherever you go.
• 36:39
  I'm careful not to become, as they call it, orthorexic now, where you're so concerned with every
• 36:46
  by being organic or fitting a certain paradigm that you are so obsessed. You can't really relax
• 36:53
  and that's actually anxiety-producing, right? So what I do is I plan ahead a little bit. I'll take some,
• 36:58
  you know, paleo valley beef sticks with me and you know, a few little things to have in the suitcase,
• 37:03
  but mostly I go with the flow. So if I'm out at a restaurant or eating in a different country
• 37:08
  with some people, I don't even know. I just, I receive everything with gratitude and try to focus
• 37:13
  on the real food that's on the table. So I will generally find broths and meat, not so much
• 37:19
  raw milk, but cheese, you know, I'll go with the big guns and avoid the extra little sweet stuff
• 37:24
  that inevitably even in the most remote gurz or yurts in Mongolia, they would have like little
• 37:30
  dishes of candy because they said, well, actually, they were trying to make that a special treat for
• 37:35
  any visitors because they knew how hard it was to get to this city. Like Mongolia is one of the
• 37:39
  most sparsely populated countries on the planet, actually. And they do have such hospitality that
• 37:45
  if I leave my little yurt or gur and I go away for a week or two, like I'll leave food for whoever
• 37:50
  comes by and just needs a place to stop. Like that's how it works. It's amazing. And these little
• 37:54
  remote yurts, they would have these dishes full of single wrapped candies, you know, but I wouldn't
• 38:00
  have that, right? I would just have, oh my gosh, there we just ate so well. It was all animal
• 38:04
  products, you know, either a yak or calf or horse or goat or whatever, like we were just eating meat
• 38:10
  and fat and dairy products like little curdled little cakes of way. And I mean, it was just wild.
• 38:16
  It was wild stuff, but it was all good. So you'd be surprised. I mean, there's always real food
• 38:21
  wherever you go. You just have to keep your eyes open for it. And just know you're not going to be
• 38:25
  asking a quiz like, hey, was this regeneratively raised? They're doing the best they can wherever they
• 38:30
  are. So you have to do the best you can too. And I would say just to correct something you said
• 38:35
  earlier, you said, it's impossible. It's not impossible to eat healthy when you're on the road. You
• 38:38
  simply do the best you can and trust that your body is being nourished as best you can. And then
• 38:43
  you recalibrate when you get home. The one thing that's hard for me actually when I'm on the road
• 38:47
  is movement because I like to work with free weights a lot. And I just, I get a kick out of it. Like
• 38:52
  I've always loved it because I taught the classes years ago, right? I can't get weights when I'm
• 38:57
  in different places. I just have to use my body weight in the walking and just again, trust that I can
• 39:01
  jump back into the system and my little exercise plan when I get home. Yeah, I know that's great.
• 39:07
  Yeah. And I think I'm more think of it when you're eating, if you're stuck eating at restaurants
• 39:11
  all the time because restaurants, you know, they have bottom lines and they're they're how they
• 39:16
  make their money is sometimes choosing cheaper ingredients. And then the ones that don't do that are
• 39:20
  just so expensive. It's not sustainable for most people. I know. It's true. Eating out at restaurants
• 39:26
  is tough. It is tough because generally every fried thing on that menu is going to be done in
• 39:30
  canola oil or some seed oil. And as you know, those are really damaging. They cause oxidative
• 39:36
  stress in the body leading to cancer or joint pain, obesity, like a lot, a lot of conditions. So
• 39:43
  I take what I get with gratitude and try to avoid the fried stuff and just take what I can
• 39:49
  that I see that is real food as close to it as possible. And sometimes you'd be surprised what
• 39:54
  you can ask for. Like if I'm stopping at a hotel, for example, when I got to Mongolia, we went to
• 39:59
  the capital city, Mary Rhettigan, I'm Lulampatar. And so we're in this nice hotel before we go off
• 40:05
  the beaten path into Western Mongolia and just really, really far away. There we would say if they
• 40:10
  had better, hey, can you cook these eggs in butter? Like because they're probably going to do it in
• 40:14
  some random oil, but you just ask. And sometimes they say, yes, they can accommodate you. So do the
• 40:19
  best you can under your circumstances and you have to let the rest go. Now I know you, when you've
• 40:24
  done events, you will lead prayer before eating. Do you do that when you're just alone? Do you
• 40:30
  kind of say grace or do a prayer before eating? And how much does your space, your energy play
• 40:37
  into how your body receives any of the food you're eating? Ah, thank you for asking. You know,
• 40:43
  it's interesting because sometimes we can get so on the go in the US, present company included,
• 40:49
  I will be, you know, scarfing something down in my kitchen standing. And then my body is not
• 40:56
  at all in the rest and digest mode. So I have to catch myself. I guess I'm still a little bit of
• 41:01
  that go, go, go, girl, I mentioned earlier. So I have to pause and I've come to find out
• 41:07
  that actually prayer or pausing before any meal, it's good for all of us. You don't have to be
• 41:13
  a person of faith to do it. I remember being with some friends who just believed in energy. And of
• 41:18
  course, this isn't complicated to think about, but think about the stake that's on your plate.
• 41:25
  So whatever situation that cow was in was the energy it was receiving and the way it was treated
• 41:31
  if it was out in the sunshine and so forth. And that energy is getting communicated to you through
• 41:36
  this stake. And I interviewed, I think it was Will Winter on the subject at one point and some
• 41:40
  people were pushing back like, how do you know when you shouldn't say that because people who
• 41:44
  can't afford that grass-fed, you know, grass-finished stake are going to be sad. Again, remember I said,
• 41:49
  do the best you can in the circumstance that you're in. If your budget doesn't allow you to get
• 41:53
  that, get the meat you need to from Safeway. But I am convinced just as he is and he's a veterinarian
• 41:59
  with a lot of farming experience that the energy flows through that. So when you pause,
• 42:06
  you may be able to affect the energy of that animal and affect the energy of your own body at
• 42:12
  the very least. It shifts you from that high cortisol, that stress place, which is the opposite of
• 42:18
  the rest and digest. It's the sympathetic nervous system instead of the parasympathetic. It gets
• 42:22
  you to relax, to be grateful. And if it doesn't change the energy on your plate of the food on your
• 42:28
  plate, at least changes your energy so that you're more able to absorb what nutrients are there.
• 42:33
  So I think this is important to take into account. So yes, when I'm alone, I'll prayer, prayer,
• 42:38
  or sometimes I even just put my hands like over the food to almost like rakey style.
• 42:45
  Kind of blessing it. I guess it's a mix of prayer and blessing it. I'm asking God to shift things
• 42:52
  and make it work for my body. And even when I'm drinking water, actually, that sometimes we'll
• 42:56
  say thank you because I know that the energy I'm putting out there is going to affect what I'm
• 43:01
  taking in. And I think that's really important to keep in mind. As we've kind of encapsulated, I mean,
• 43:06
  it is anyone listening can tell you have a lot of energy and beautiful energy and you're constantly
• 43:13
  putting energy out. You're either learning or giving. And just for the sake of anyone out there
• 43:21
  that's listening that, you know, just has those days where they have fallen off the wagon or they
• 43:26
  aren't feeling positive or the energy isn't there. I have to imagine you have those days,
• 43:31
  do you not? Yes, yes. Yeah. So can you kind of just share what is a hard day for Hilda look like
• 43:37
  in a sense where she's not living her purpose, not living her mission, she's not in that kind of
• 43:43
  curiosity and hungry space, but she's really kind of more than I'm spent or you feeling the gaps.
• 43:48
  What does that look like? And then on the flip side of that, how do you self-care in those moments?
• 43:54
  So I think the days when I'm off-kilter have less to do with my external circumstances
• 44:02
  than they have to do with what's going inside in my mind. It's all about my perspective.
• 44:09
  I have read so many books and had so many experiences that helped me understand
• 44:14
  I'm as free as I choose to be. So I can look at something and grumble this person, this email,
• 44:23
  they sent me and start my day like that. And then my tone is set for the whole day. I'm
• 44:29
  begrudging or annoyed and that will set me off and then maybe I'm not feeling well nourished.
• 44:35
  So yes, I have days like that to answer the question. So what I do is I do my best to have these
• 44:43
  habits, these happy habits that recalibrate me and I literally, this is a great place for anyone
• 44:50
  to start, I think. I bookend my days with positivity and starting and ending the day on my own
• 44:56
  terms. This is what I mean. I'm not in a reactive mode when I start my day. I'm not like, oh shoot,
• 45:03
  you know, this email came in or this text or there's this demand and keep in mind I don't have a
• 45:08
  little baby that's crying to wake me up. I know there are times when you have to be responsive and
• 45:12
  it's not necessarily a bad thing, but I get outside first thing and I basically go on a 30 to 45
• 45:21
  minute prayer and connection walk. So I'm connecting with nature. I'm not reactive. I'm active,
• 45:28
  physically. I literally put on a little weighted vest too because I'm into all this stuff. I'm
• 45:32
  lifting up my day. I'm, you know, lifting up the people I love. I have certain prayers and
• 45:38
  scriptures that I repeat even affirmations because I want to set the tone. I don't know if you've
• 45:44
  ever seen certain runners before they have a race, they have a pregame ritual. This is my pre day
• 45:51
  ritual that really sets the tone for my day of gratitude, of movement, of getting the sun.
• 45:56
  And that's not to say I'm not going to come inside, turn my phone on and find I have, you know,
• 46:00
  five messages that I have to reply to immediately that might not get that cortisol rising,
• 46:04
  but I still started the day on my terms. Before I put my head on the pillow,
• 46:08
  I've already been wearing my blue blockers. So I'm not getting a lot of light that's overly
• 46:11
  stimulating as my body's trying to wind down. And then I wind down my spirit too by reading.
• 46:18
  I'm not on my device. I'm not one more email. No, I used to do that. I used to and it was
• 46:23
  to my detriment really. That's the one area as a health coach that I short-changed was my sleep.
• 46:28
  I was one of those, oh, I'll sleep when I'm dead. And now I'm like, oh, no. If I say that,
• 46:32
  the truth is I'm going to be dead sooner because you need that time to detox your body,
• 46:37
  really needs to rest. So right when I put my head on the pillow or before I do, like I said,
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  I read, I unwind. And then when I put my head on the pillow, I think of what I'm thankful for.
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  Some people talk about like reviewing the day and doing this kind of self-examine practice,
• 46:50
  but that's too much for me. I just think of what I'm thankful for and just kind of review things
• 46:54
  a little bit and try to end and begin the day with a smile on my face because no matter what happens
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  in between, like that's kind of taking ownership. And that's what I always try to invite people to
• 47:04
  do too. Like there may be people listening to this podcast where like, I'm so sick and I wish I
• 47:09
  could do a 45 minute walk. But by the way, I've got this demanding job or I've got four kids under
• 47:14
  five. I mean, I was at that place. I actually had my four kids in a row. I didn't know anything about
• 47:18
  spacing. So I four kids in five years. Yes, I was like a little accordion with my womb. I was crazy
• 47:23
  in and out and in and out. But it was crazy. But even then, this is what I would invite those young moms
• 47:30
  or the people struggling to do is you can make choices that are healing for you and helpful for
• 47:35
  your family. So you can say to them, Hey, before breakfast, we always get outside. Before breakfast,
• 47:40
  kids will start any routine and follow your lead. We always put our feet on the ground for five
• 47:44
  minutes. Let's see how long we can last today because it's really cold out there. You know,
• 47:47
  when you make it a game. And then at the end of the day, we would read with our kids every night too.
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  And so you're helping them come up with a happy, healthy routine. And so you can actually model
• 47:57
  it yourself as well. But wherever you are, implementing some of the basics can get you back up to
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  that starting line. And you can always return to those to recalibrate on the hardest days.
• 48:08
  These are such great tips and shares. Thank you for those. I find it interesting. And this is not
• 48:14
  always the case. But so in many ways, you know, Western price and ancestral very much connect.
• 48:22
  But then you're also a biohacker. You talk a lot about different biohacking tools and tips.
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  Do you see those as different? I mean, clearly you see them as being able to co-exist. But can you
• 48:37
  share a talk a little bit about that? Because I don't think everyone connects those dots. They don't
• 48:41
  think of biohacking as also ancestral, but clearly you're connecting the dots.
• 48:47
  Well, I guess I straddle both worlds, but I must say I lean more ancestral. So maybe I'm more of
• 48:52
  an ancestral biohacker. And this is what I mean by that. The biohacker is trying to
• 48:59
  make his environment both internal and external conform with the health that he wants. So he or she,
• 49:05
  so let's say you want to experience the elements as I was saying about shivers.
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  An ancestral person would go outside without a jacket, which I totally do all the time,
• 49:14
  even when it's 35 degrees or whatever I like to challenge myself. But the biohacker might not
• 49:19
  want to do that, but they might jump in a nice bath. So so happens I do have a plunge in my backyard.
• 49:23
  So I'm willing to take the shortcuts, some of them, for that kind of effect that I would get
• 49:31
  if I were living more ancestral. But I don't do everything. I'm not big on things like
• 49:36
  methylene blue or some of them more unusual things. Because I'm like, why should I do that to detox,
• 49:44
  for example, when I could have some black walnut tincture or I lean more ancestral or get my
• 49:51
  feet on the ground to get rid of the EMFs. Do I have a little quantum block in my bedroom? Yes,
• 49:56
  but I'm also putting my feet on the ground and I see those as just as valuable. So I think those
• 50:01
  biohacking shortcuts are great, but sometimes they're pricey too. And I'm like, shoot, the sun is
• 50:06
  free. We don't need a sauna. You know, again, I do have a sauna. But so I have the things,
• 50:12
  but I know that they're accessible for everyone. Even I'm going to say the sustenance piece,
• 50:17
  which people can say can be the most expensive. Like, why should I get organic? Or do I need
• 50:21
  grass fed grass finished as I was saying earlier? Do the best you can to get real food on your
• 50:26
  table and on your plate and it's going to do you good. You don't need to get super fancy. You don't
• 50:31
  need to get the the high and different meats and so forth that are like really pricey. A lot of
• 50:37
  my meat comes from an Amish farmer in Pennsylvania through farm match. So there are ways to live
• 50:42
  ancestral with all the fancy gadgets. Because I'm really not big on the gadgets. Are they helpful
• 50:46
  now and then yes. But I think this kind of lifestyle is more ancestral than biohacking and it's
• 50:53
  very accessible. Where do you get your information? Is it mostly from your connections and
• 51:02
  conversations with people? Or are you like specifically like, oh, I go to this resource because
• 51:08
  this is the tried and true source. You're mentioning farm match of course for food resource. But where
• 51:14
  can people in your judgment go to kind of discern like what should we be focused on? Because as you
• 51:21
  know, there's constantly noise. There's constantly reference to some new trend or some new
• 51:30
  modality and everyone thinks, should I do this? Should I not do this? And then 10 years later,
• 51:35
  we learn, oh, that's actually misinformation. Coca-Cola actually was holding back the truth
• 51:40
  because they wanted you to think that you could just walk off their sodas. You know what I mean?
• 51:45
  Things like that. So where are you going to kind of discern truth from fiction? I love to look at
• 51:52
  two things. One is truth that has stood the test of time. I think there's a verse in Jeremiah that says
• 52:02
  stand at the crossroads and look, ask for the ancient path and walk in them and you will find
• 52:08
  rest for your souls. So I feel like this is one reason I do have faith because there are people
• 52:15
  who walk this earth in such wisdom that I can learn from. I read books about saints of old who
• 52:21
  knew how to levitate, you know, I haven't gotten that far yet, but I'm so impressed with their
• 52:27
  perseverance, with their diligence, with their confidence. I used to end every podcast on the
• 52:32
  Wise Regions podcast till they told me, please stop. With a quote from St. Julian of Norwich,
• 52:38
  this wonderful saint from like the 15th century who would say, all shall be well and all shall be
• 52:44
  well in all manner of things shall be well. I'm like, what was this woman thinking? I don't know if
• 52:49
  that was a prayer or a mantra or a hope, but she clung to it when the people in her town and
• 52:55
  England were going through the black plague. So I look for spiritual and physical things that
• 53:02
  have stood the test of time. That's one. But the second thing is, James, I don't outsource as much
• 53:07
  as you think. I have a friend that used to whip herself into a tizzy with, oh my gosh,
• 53:13
  children's health defense is saying this and highwire is saying that and this person saying that
• 53:17
  and she was more anxious than people who were watching the regular news. This is during the pandemic.
• 53:23
  And I was like, okay, wait, maybe we're not helping ourselves. Maybe there's fear on both sides.
• 53:29
  And there were some real words of wisdom imparted to me by an aboriginal woman in Australia.
• 53:36
  And she said, in our tribe, we have the custom of the dairy, which is deep listening.
• 53:42
  It means being still. It means not outsourcing my thinking. It means looking within and seeing
• 53:49
  if there's a deep knowing within me that will help me, whether it's within immediate decision
• 53:55
  or with what I need to do for my body. If I'm still enough, I might hear the voice of God or my
• 54:00
  ancestors. I mean, who knows what that's going to come in, but I need to be willing to learn
• 54:05
  from the deepest places of me and willing to stop outsourcing my health, whether it's to conventional
• 54:12
  or natural methods. You know, I just feel like we're too quick to give up our thinking really.
• 54:17
  And our decision making and just saying, well, that person saying this, I guess I'll try it too.
• 54:21
  No, like really give yourself a chance to be still and know if this is for you.
• 54:26
  So I do look for what stood the test of time, but I also look within.
• 54:30
  That's beautiful. And I think your story and your life is a testimony of that we are
• 54:37
  vessels. And you're very much living your life like that. You are valuing your uniqueness and letting
• 54:46
  the world sift through that unique vessel that you are and come out through you and in your
• 54:52
  unique way. And so I think there's just not only so much beauty, but so much that we can all
• 54:58
  learn from, you know, of our own unique beauty and that we shouldn't quite our voices.
• 55:05
  It's very important for people to know if you don't know, if you've ever listened to the Y
• 55:09
  traditions podcast, that wasn't a podcast that existed before Hilda suggested it. So she made
• 55:16
  that happen. And when she did that, she had never podcast ever. So this was like truly following
• 55:23
  your instinct in your divine vision. And you co-created that. You created that path. And it's just
• 55:30
  very inspiring. So thank you for all that you do. I want to just share a quote. And then I'm
• 55:35
  going to ask you something. And of course, you can say no, but we'll just see if you say yes.
• 55:40
  I took this quote from some other source and you said, you know, that you look for potential,
• 55:45
  you get excited about it. And then you believe that it can become reality. And I just, I really love
• 55:52
  that, you know, we have to be seekers and get excited about what we see. But then we have to believe
• 56:00
  that is possible. So thank you for modeling that. So my ask is that you have sang worship.
• 56:09
  And I'm just wondering if you might take two minutes to share your voice with us on this podcast,
• 56:15
  where you just sing a very, could be two sentences, could be some, some piece of worship
• 56:21
  they used to sing back in a day. But I was just wondering if I could put you on this spot and
• 56:25
  have you do a little singing. Oh my gosh. That feels so special to me. Thank you so much.
• 56:32
  Trying to think. Oh gosh, it's hard for me to think except I can sing a song that's never been
• 56:38
  published that I kind of wrote with a kid in mind. So I will share that. So that's great.
• 56:44
  That feels good to me. And it's actually cute because it goes along with our stories. It goes
• 56:47
  like this. Like before I was born, God saw me inside my mom. He for me. He kept me safe.
• 56:58
  And one before I was born. That's all I remember right now. Oh, I love it. Thank you so much,
• 57:07
  Hilda. Oh my pleasure. Beautiful conversation. We met many years ago. Not many, but I guess a few
• 57:13
  years ago. I've just loved our interactions. And I so appreciate you being on our podcast.
• 57:18
  Where can people find you? I know your website. I don't know. Is it been fully
• 57:23
  transitioned to the new site yet? Because I went on it prior and it looks fantastic. Is that the
• 57:28
  new website? I guess. I don't know. But it looks great if it is. Yeah. So yeah, my website is
• 57:34
  holistichilda.com. I do have my six secrets course which releases a couple times a year.
• 57:40
  And I'm also building a holistic hub, a community where we can connect. And we're
• 57:45
  going to have a private podcast, by the way, where I'm just going to do a solo cast and tell
• 57:49
  everybody what I'm thinking because I don't always have opportunities like this James. So I'm
• 57:53
  really, really grateful. And then I've got my Instagram, holistichilda, and of course the
• 57:56
  Wise Traditions podcast. And I'm also on YouTube where I try to put longer forum content.
• 58:02
  But I just want to say along the lines of what you're saying about me and fulfilling my purpose,
• 58:07
  I see this in you. I see this even in a listener I haven't met yet right now who's like,
• 58:12
  you know, I've got three kids, you know, below my knees, like Togganami all day, you are fulfilling
• 58:18
  your purpose. And you are here for a reason. I'm so thankful. And just know that life is a long time.
• 58:24
  I had that season too. And you never know what's around the corner. So enjoy every moment
• 58:29
  until it's time for something new that you can dream about and see come about.
• 58:34
  Thank you so much, Hilda. And thank you everyone for participating in the everyday ancestral
• 58:40
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• 58:45
  team. You know, we rising tides. Let's get the word out there that these ancestral
• 58:50
  ways are important to bring into our modern and present day. So thank you all. And just stay
• 58:58
  curious. Love it. Thanks James. Thank you so much for joining me on everyday ancestral.
• 59:06
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• 59:28
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