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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcomed episode two hundred and sixty six of the Death
- 0:03Speaker 1: of Journalism podcasts. My name is John Zigler. I'm your
- 0:05Speaker 1: host on today's show. The off year election results are
- 0:08Speaker 1: even worse than I expected for Republicans and for the country.
- 0:13Speaker 1: I'll tell you what it all really means. My close friend,
- 0:16Speaker 1: movie director Cyrus n Rosta joins us to discuss his
- 0:19Speaker 1: latest great movie to hit theaters this weekend, called Sarah's Oil.
- 0:24Speaker 1: Elon Musk makes some very disturbing comments about AI, plus
- 0:28Speaker 1: a review of Maybe Our Last Family Halloween and my
- 0:33Speaker 1: reunion trip to Washington, d C. In the last episode
- 0:39Speaker 1: of the podcast, I made several predictions about the off
- 0:42Speaker 1: year elections which transpired last night as we were taping
- 0:46Speaker 1: this on Wednesday morning, and those predictions, unfortunately all turned
- 0:50Speaker 1: out to be true and accurate. I told you it
- 0:53Speaker 1: was going to be a very good day for Democrats
- 0:56Speaker 1: and for progressives and for socialists, in a very bad
- 0:59Speaker 1: day for Republicans in general. I was even correct when
- 1:04Speaker 1: I told you that it did not matter whether or not
- 1:06Speaker 1: the Republican in New York City got out of the race,
- 1:08Speaker 1: because Zorn Mondani would win regardless. He did get over
- 1:13Speaker 1: fifty percent of the vote, not by much, barely, but
- 1:17Speaker 1: it would not have mattered in the end who he
- 1:20Speaker 1: ran against, he would have won. And while there are
- 1:24Speaker 1: a lot of very disturbing results that we'll get to
- 1:28Speaker 1: in this off yr election, I want to begin with
- 1:30Speaker 1: what happened in New York City, because, if only from
- 1:34Speaker 1: a symbolic and maybe from a practical perspective, this is
- 1:38Speaker 1: one of the most disturbing developments in American political history,
- 1:45Speaker 1: and I do think we need to at least take
- 1:47Speaker 1: a moment to comprehend what it all truly means and
- 1:52Speaker 1: just how utterly insane it is that New York City,
- 1:57Speaker 1: you know, the premier city in the world, and the
- 1:59Speaker 1: largest in America, the center of commerce and finance in
- 2:05Speaker 1: the world, and in America, some people believe the greatest
- 2:09Speaker 1: city that's ever been created in the history of man
- 2:13Speaker 1: is now going to be run by a guy who
- 2:16Speaker 1: is foreign born, who is a Muslim, who is a
- 2:21Speaker 1: Marxist socialist, who is an anti Semite, who has almost
- 2:27Speaker 1: no experience, who basically has a fraudulent biography. I mean,
- 2:35Speaker 1: this is all happening twenty four years after nine to eleven.
- 2:40Speaker 1: I mean, if you had created this as some sort
- 2:45Speaker 1: of a fictional account. Even a couple of years ago,
- 2:49Speaker 1: no one would have believed this was possible. He's not
- 2:52Speaker 1: a celebrity. He wasn't a celebrity until basically fifteen minutes ago.
- 2:58Speaker 1: And yet this has all now happened, and it has happened.
- 3:02Speaker 1: I have to at least mention that it happened. Not
- 3:05Speaker 1: that this mattered to the results, but it happened with
- 3:07Speaker 1: the backing of even former conservative commentator Bill Crystal. I
- 3:13Speaker 1: just have to acknowledge the utter insanity of the fact
- 3:17Speaker 1: that Bill Crystal once a leader, a thought leader in
- 3:21Speaker 1: the conservative movement, a guy who I've had some pretty
- 3:24Speaker 1: significant contact with because at one time his funder was
- 3:30Speaker 1: my father's boss, a guy by the name of Roger Hurtog,
- 3:34Speaker 1: And that was that even facilitated the conversation between myself
- 3:39Speaker 1: and Bill Crystal back when Bill Crystal was still pretending
- 3:42Speaker 1: to be a conservative. And he has lost his mind
- 3:45Speaker 1: more than any other alleged conservative commentator in the era
- 3:49Speaker 1: of Trump. He's gone so off the deep end. He's
- 3:52Speaker 1: such an anti Trump quote unquote conservative, but he's not
- 3:57Speaker 1: that he even felt the need to vertue signal by
- 4:01Speaker 1: showing just how anti Trump he is by deciding that
- 4:04Speaker 1: he would endorse or Mommi for the mayor of New
- 4:10Speaker 1: York City. Now he didn't influence any votes, but just symbolically,
- 4:14Speaker 1: I just thought, my god, there it is. In a nutshell.
- 4:18Speaker 1: There's that's where we are. When it comes to the
- 4:20Speaker 1: quote unquote conservative movement or the anti Trump, never Trump
- 4:23Speaker 1: conservative movement, We've got Bill CRYSTALSMI make it stop, somebody please.
- 4:32Speaker 1: What a fucking frauds. Just unbelievable. The entire anti Trump
- 4:38Speaker 1: conservative movement is full of frauds, which is partially why
- 4:42Speaker 1: I'm as in the wilderness as anybody possibly could be
- 4:45Speaker 1: because I'm an anti Trump conservative. But I never sold
- 4:49Speaker 1: out any of my principles, unlike Bill Crystal, who just
- 4:53Speaker 1: completely jumped the shark a long time ago but now
- 4:57Speaker 1: is irredeemable. I mean just comical. Comical is the only
- 5:01Speaker 1: way to describe it, because if you're either gonna laugh
- 5:04Speaker 1: or you're gonna cry, and at least in that situation,
- 5:07Speaker 1: I prefer to laugh. But with regard to the bigger picture,
- 5:10Speaker 1: with Zaramandami winning with just over fifty percent of the vote,
- 5:15Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is startling this is. It's
- 5:19Speaker 1: not shocking because we knew this was going to happen,
- 5:22Speaker 1: but it is. It still shakes you to your core,
- 5:25Speaker 1: especially if you're of a certain age and you believed
- 5:28Speaker 1: in America in the way that I did, and you
- 5:32Speaker 1: spend a lot of time in New York City, as
- 5:34Speaker 1: I did, because that's where my father worked as when
- 5:36Speaker 1: I was a kid, and I meant to many sporting events,
- 5:38Speaker 1: many many sporting events in New York City, spent a
- 5:40Speaker 1: lot of time in New York City. You don't want
- 5:43Speaker 1: to see it burn. And I have really dealt quite
- 5:48Speaker 1: a bit internally and on this podcast with the idea of, okay,
- 5:52Speaker 1: do you'll just let New York City burn? Is this
- 5:55Speaker 1: potentially actually a good thing for the rest of the
- 5:59Speaker 1: country to see New York City burn? Because they now
- 6:02Speaker 1: have a Marxist who's naive and inexperienced and incompetent and
- 6:10Speaker 1: ignorant of basic realities in charge, and if he gets
- 6:14Speaker 1: what he wants, it's going to be a complete and
- 6:16Speaker 1: total disaster. Do you root for that? Well, you know,
- 6:20Speaker 1: a large part of me doesn't want to root for that,
- 6:21Speaker 1: because you don't want to see New York City go down.
- 6:24Speaker 1: In figurative, if not literal flames. But I'm also not
- 6:28Speaker 1: convinced at all that what a lot of Trump Fans
- 6:33Speaker 1: and Republicans think is gonna happen is going to be
- 6:36Speaker 1: the message that the vast majority of the public is
- 6:40Speaker 1: gonna get, partially because it's obvious that the media in
- 6:44Speaker 1: large part is in the tank for Mondannie, although that's
- 6:47Speaker 1: not as important as it used to be. I'm just
- 6:51Speaker 1: not one hundred percent there that even if New York
- 6:54Speaker 1: City burns to the ground because of Mondanie being the mayor,
- 6:59Speaker 1: that that's going to have the impact that we think
- 7:02Speaker 1: that it will. It might. Part of me now hopes
- 7:05Speaker 1: that that's the case, because that's the only good scenario
- 7:09Speaker 1: out of all this, But I'm not sure we still
- 7:12Speaker 1: live in that world. I'm just not sure. And did
- 7:17Speaker 1: we just see what the beginnings of what has already
- 7:21Speaker 1: transpired in Europe happened here in America, even in New
- 7:26Speaker 1: York fricking City. I think that's a scenario that's quite possible.
- 7:31Speaker 1: So is this going to be a situation where the
- 7:35Speaker 1: rest of the country wakes up to the dangers of this,
- 7:39Speaker 1: or is this now a situation where the Mandans of
- 7:45Speaker 1: the world have gotten traction in a very big way
- 7:48Speaker 1: where he is in charge of the largest city in
- 7:51Speaker 1: America and maybe the most important city in America. And
- 7:56Speaker 1: so it was just really quite shocking to watch the
- 8:01Speaker 1: whole thing actually take place, even though you knew it
- 8:04Speaker 1: was going to happen. You knew it was going to happen,
- 8:08Speaker 1: and yet it was still startling to actually see it.
- 8:13Speaker 1: And Mandami gave his speech, which was, you know, the
- 8:17Speaker 1: thing that the media was most eager to see all
- 8:21Speaker 1: night long, because by that point it was very, very
- 8:23Speaker 1: obvious that it was going to be a fantastic night
- 8:25Speaker 1: for Democrats across the country, and everyone wanted to know, Okay,
- 8:30Speaker 1: so which Mondami was going to show up in this speech?
- 8:34Speaker 1: And the Mondamie we got was I think probably the
- 8:39Speaker 1: real Mandami, which is a very angry, very militant, and
- 8:46Speaker 1: almost evangelical socialist, Marxist, Islamisist. I mean this, Everything that
- 8:56Speaker 1: you think that could be bad about came out in
- 9:02Speaker 1: his address, his victory speech to his supporters in New
- 9:06Speaker 1: York City, so much so that even Van Jones, a
- 9:12Speaker 1: black liberal commentator on CNN who I've mentioned many times
- 9:15Speaker 1: on this podcast, seem to be a bit uneasy about it.
- 9:19Speaker 1: David Oxelarod was uneasy about it. They both criticized it
- 9:23Speaker 1: for basically, these are my words with being too militant,
- 9:27Speaker 1: or as the I think the better way to describe
- 9:29Speaker 1: it is. They were basically saying to Mandami, you know
- 9:33Speaker 1: you're supposed to keep this quiet, dude, this is not
- 9:36Speaker 1: the part that's supposed to come out publicly. You're supposed
- 9:41Speaker 1: to be Obama in public, not this, dude, whatever this
- 9:47Speaker 1: character is, you're creating. No. No, you said the quiet
- 9:50Speaker 1: part out loud. You're not supposed to let people see
- 9:53Speaker 1: this kind of stuff, especially not in such a high
- 9:56Speaker 1: profile situation. It's okay that you believe this. They don't
- 9:59Speaker 1: have a the problem with his beliefs. They just don't
- 10:03Speaker 1: like the fact that he's saying it so publicly in
- 10:06Speaker 1: such a prominent situation, because they know that for a
- 10:11Speaker 1: large portion of the population, not nearly as large as
- 10:13Speaker 1: it should be or it used to be, this is
- 10:16Speaker 1: going to cause some problems, at least in theory for Democrats.
- 10:21Speaker 1: And there were many elements of this speech that were
- 10:24Speaker 1: extremely disturbing, Probably the most chilling line that any major
- 10:31Speaker 1: politician has ever said in a victory speech at least
- 10:34Speaker 1: to my knowledge in America, was quote we will prove
- 10:39Speaker 1: that there is no problem too large for government to
- 10:43Speaker 1: solve and no problem too small for government to care about.
- 10:50Speaker 1: I want you to I'm gonna repeat that right because
- 10:55Speaker 1: that is that is chilling right there. I mean, that
- 10:59Speaker 1: is government as HOA and in the era of AI
- 11:04Speaker 1: when they're going to have an increasing ability to crack
- 11:07Speaker 1: down on anything they want to. You should really be
- 11:11Speaker 1: disturbed when the mayor of New York City in his
- 11:14Speaker 1: victory speech says, quote, we will prove that there is
- 11:18Speaker 1: no problem too large for government to solve and no
- 11:22Speaker 1: problem too small for government to care about. In other words,
- 11:25Speaker 1: government runs your life. In other words, COVID on steroids,
- 11:32Speaker 1: COVID panic on steroids. That's what man Donnie is promising here.
- 11:40Speaker 1: But it didn't stop there. I'm going to play one
- 11:44Speaker 1: fairly significantly long clip from this speech where he specifically
- 11:49Speaker 1: addresses Donald Trump and the war that he perceives he
- 11:54Speaker 1: is now in with Donald Trump. And this is the
- 11:59Speaker 1: end of his speech where he attacks Trump, lays out
- 12:03Speaker 1: a litany of all the socialist fantasies that he's intending
- 12:08Speaker 1: to fulfill in New York City and then ends it
- 12:12Speaker 1: by declaring that an immigrant is now in charge of
- 12:17Speaker 1: New York City and that you're going to have to
- 12:19Speaker 1: deal with him and all those like him. And here's
- 12:23Speaker 1: what that sounded like election night in New York City.
- 12:27Speaker 2: If anyone can show a nation betrayed by Donald Trump
- 12:30Speaker 2: how to defeat him, it is the city that gave
- 12:33Speaker 2: rise to him. And if there is any way to
- 12:41Speaker 2: terrify a despot, it is by dismantling the very conditions
- 12:45Speaker 2: that allowed him to accumulate power. This is not only
- 12:52Speaker 2: how we stopped Trump, it's how we stop the next one. So,
- 13:00Speaker 2: Donald Trump, since I know you're watching, I have four
- 13:07Speaker 2: words for you.
- 13:09Speaker 3: Turn the volume up. We will hold bad landlords.
- 13:36Speaker 2: To account because the Donald Trumps.
- 13:38Speaker 1: Of our city have grown.
- 13:40Speaker 2: Far too comfortable taking advantage of their tenants. We will
- 13:46Speaker 2: put an end to the culture of corruption that has
- 13:49Speaker 2: allowed billionaires like Trump to evade taxation and exploit tax breaks.
- 13:58Speaker 2: We will stand alongside union and expand labor protections because
- 14:03Speaker 2: we know, just as Double Trump does, that when working
- 14:09Speaker 2: people have ironclad rights, the bosses who seek to extort
- 14:13Speaker 2: them become very small.
- 14:15Speaker 1: Indeed, New York will remain.
- 14:21Speaker 2: A city of immigrants, a city built by immigrants, powered
- 14:27Speaker 2: by immigrants, and as of tonight Land by an immigrant.
- 14:50Speaker 2: So hear me, President Trump, when I say this, To
- 14:54Speaker 2: get to any of us, you will have to get
- 14:57Speaker 2: through all of us.
- 15:03Speaker 1: Now, that is pretty much a really disturbing synopsis of
- 15:10Speaker 1: his speech in general and what Mandami is intending to do,
- 15:14Speaker 1: and he was not bashful about it. I've already referenced
- 15:17Speaker 1: the Van Jones and David Axelrod on CNN. You know
- 15:21Speaker 1: we're basically saying, hey, dude, keep it quiet. Be more
- 15:24Speaker 1: like Obama. Mandami is a lot like Obama, except Obama
- 15:30Speaker 1: either didn't have the balls or was too willing to
- 15:33Speaker 1: listen to his advisors and never let it come out
- 15:36Speaker 1: quite like that. So maybe Mandani is Obama with balls.
- 15:43Speaker 1: Now with Mondami, it's always trunck to tell what's real
- 15:47Speaker 1: and what's acting, because he absolutely is an actor. But
- 15:50Speaker 1: let's just presume that he really does believe in most
- 15:54Speaker 1: of not all of this stuff that he's promising. If
- 15:58Speaker 1: he gets it, it's going to be a disaster for
- 16:01Speaker 1: New York City. That is as clear as could possibly be. Right,
- 16:06Speaker 1: And I could talk for a very long time about
- 16:08Speaker 1: why that is. He still needs to get approval from
- 16:12Speaker 1: the you know, the governor of the state, you know,
- 16:15Speaker 1: in some cases for what he wants to do. But
- 16:17Speaker 1: let's just presume he gets most of what he wants.
- 16:20Speaker 1: The fundamental problem, and there are many, but the number
- 16:24Speaker 1: one fundamental problem with what he wants to do is
- 16:27Speaker 1: this flaw that liberals. It's so incredibly obvious that this
- 16:32Speaker 1: is a flaw in liberal, progressive, socialist thinking, but they
- 16:35Speaker 1: just either don't understand it or they will not accept it.
- 16:39Speaker 1: I don't know what which it is. Maybe it's a
- 16:40Speaker 1: little bit of both. But when you make something free,
- 16:44Speaker 1: this is a universal truth that literally my young children
- 16:48Speaker 1: can understand. If you make something free, people are going
- 16:55Speaker 1: to use more of it. Right. That's it's the number
- 17:00Speaker 1: one problem with universal healthcare, right because there's a whole
- 17:06Speaker 1: slew of things we don't even bother to go to
- 17:09Speaker 1: the doctors for because we know we're going to have
- 17:11Speaker 1: to pay for it. Well, but if everything's free, that
- 17:14Speaker 1: changes so and that goes for every little thing that
- 17:18Speaker 1: Mondamie wants to do for free, whether it's childcare or bussing,
- 17:23Speaker 1: whatever the hell it is. When it's free, people will
- 17:27Speaker 1: use more of it. You probably saw that on Halloween.
- 17:30Speaker 1: There's every Halloween now there's ring videos of people stealing
- 17:35Speaker 1: buckets of Halloween candy that people leave on their front
- 17:38Speaker 1: porch because they're not home or they don't want to
- 17:40Speaker 1: answer the door. Well, when it's free, people will take
- 17:43Speaker 1: more of it. It's just an obvious human reality. So
- 17:47Speaker 1: it's not going to work. It is not going to work.
- 17:52Speaker 1: But will it fail in time and will that failure
- 17:56Speaker 1: be properly presented to the rest of them Marria, so
- 18:01Speaker 1: that this doesn't spread and maybe actually creates a backlash.
- 18:06Speaker 1: That's the part I don't have an answer for. I
- 18:09Speaker 1: just don't know, And that's going to be the key
- 18:12Speaker 1: question I believe as Mandamie becomes the next mayor of
- 18:17Speaker 1: New York City, But there is no question that in
- 18:20Speaker 1: the history of this country, this is a significant marking point.
- 18:25Speaker 1: To have New York City have a mayor with the
- 18:29Speaker 1: profile in the persona of Zoran Mandani is is incredibly disturbing.
- 18:35Speaker 1: It is very very telling about where we are and
- 18:38Speaker 1: where we are headed. And yes, Donald Trump plays a
- 18:42Speaker 1: role in that, because you know, Donald Trump plays a
- 18:45Speaker 1: role in all of this. His fans don't want to
- 18:47Speaker 1: accept that. But you cannot believe that the results of
- 18:52Speaker 1: last night are completely irrelevant to Donald Trump. When Donald
- 18:56Speaker 1: Trump is the entire brand of the Republican Party and
- 19:00Speaker 1: the most dominant figure in all of our politics. He
- 19:02Speaker 1: has an impact on everything. And I'm going to get
- 19:05Speaker 1: to more of that impact in a moment, but I
- 19:07Speaker 1: want to go through some of the other results from
- 19:10Speaker 1: Tuesday's election. I had told you that I did not
- 19:13Speaker 1: believe my two friends in New Jersey who were telling
- 19:17Speaker 1: me either that the Republican was going to win the
- 19:20Speaker 1: governorship or that it was going to be very very close.
- 19:23Speaker 1: I thought it would be closer than it turned out
- 19:25Speaker 1: to be. But I did predict that the Democrat would
- 19:27Speaker 1: win in New Jersey. I said, maybe, just maybe, if
- 19:31Speaker 1: there was a backlash to the Mandani impending victory, that
- 19:37Speaker 1: who knows, you could pull off some sort of a
- 19:39Speaker 1: massive upset in New Jersey. But I did not predict that.
- 19:42Speaker 1: I predicted that the Democrat would win. The Democrat won,
- 19:46Speaker 1: but the most important part of that was the margins.
- 19:49Speaker 1: And this is one of the many things that maga
- 19:52Speaker 1: Republicans that, based upon my experience online are universally not
- 19:57Speaker 1: accepting or not seeing. They think that this was no
- 20:02Speaker 1: big deal. What happened last night was no big deal
- 20:05Speaker 1: because Democrats won in places they're expected to win. By
- 20:10Speaker 1: the way, I didn't realize that we're now accepting that Virginia,
- 20:13Speaker 1: which are going to get to momentarily, is somehow a
- 20:16Speaker 1: blue state. They have a Republican governor currently who is
- 20:20Speaker 1: actually pretty darn popular. So I don't quite understand that thinking.
- 20:24Speaker 1: But the rationalization here is very very strong, very strong
- 20:30Speaker 1: among the Maga Republican Trump bas But the idea that
- 20:38Speaker 1: this was just about who won is ridiculous. It's the
- 20:42Speaker 1: margin stupid. The margins here were shocking, you know, and frankly,
- 20:50Speaker 1: Mondamie getting barely over fifty percent might have been one
- 20:53Speaker 1: of the better results of the night. That's how bad
- 20:56Speaker 1: it was, because in New Jersey it wasn't even close.
- 20:59Speaker 1: I was wrong about the margins. I actually believed the
- 21:03Speaker 1: polling and my friends and some polling actually had the
- 21:06Speaker 1: margins close to what it turned out to be. And
- 21:10Speaker 1: I always try to be as optimistic as possible. I
- 21:13Speaker 1: did not think the Republican had a real chance of winning,
- 21:16Speaker 1: but they got slaughtered and so now there's a democratic
- 21:21Speaker 1: governor in New Jersey by a large margin, and there's
- 21:24Speaker 1: a democratic governor in Virginia by a very similar margin.
- 21:28Speaker 1: It was also double digits. And so how in the
- 21:32Speaker 1: world a maga Republican can rationalize that, Wow, it's no
- 21:36Speaker 1: big deal that we went from a popular Republican governor
- 21:39Speaker 1: in Virginia to the first female governor in Virginia's history,
- 21:46Speaker 1: winning by double digits over the lieutenant governor of the
- 21:50Speaker 1: current governor. Now I realize people think she was a
- 21:52Speaker 1: bad candidate. I spent most of the weekend in Virginia,
- 21:58Speaker 1: saw a ton of commercials. I frankly thought some of
- 22:01Speaker 1: the commercials being run against the Republican female lieutenant governor
- 22:05Speaker 1: happens to be African American, we're a bit racist. If
- 22:08Speaker 1: they had been running out a Democratic black female, they
- 22:11Speaker 1: would have been considered to be racist. But that's the
- 22:13Speaker 1: world we live in. A lot of people didn't think
- 22:16Speaker 1: she was a good candidate. It doesn't explain the massive
- 22:21Speaker 1: margin of the loss. And you cannot spin that. You
- 22:26Speaker 1: cannot spin that that that has no political significance or
- 22:31Speaker 1: ramifications beyond just those two candidates. There's just no way
- 22:36Speaker 1: to go from a popular youngkin to a Democrat winning
- 22:40Speaker 1: by a massive margin over his lieutenant governor. Not just
- 22:45Speaker 1: that either. That to me actually was the least upsetting
- 22:48Speaker 1: result in Virginia. They elected a Democrat Attorney General by
- 22:55Speaker 1: a fairly safe margin who is all one record in
- 23:01Speaker 1: social media posts saying that he fantasizes about Republicans dying.
- 23:07Speaker 1: That's not an exaggeration, and the media kept that story
- 23:12Speaker 1: under raps to the extent where he actually won the
- 23:15Speaker 1: race fairly comfortably for Attorney General of Virginia. And then
- 23:22Speaker 1: there was the the state legislature races in Virginia, complete
- 23:28Speaker 1: total wipeout by Democrats of Republicans wipeout. I mean, this
- 23:38Speaker 1: could not have been a more clear cut victory. Now,
- 23:42Speaker 1: the government shut down probably played more of a role
- 23:47Speaker 1: than even I thought was likely, because you know, I'm
- 23:51Speaker 1: a logical thinker, and I talk all the time about
- 23:54Speaker 1: how Virginia in national elections and a presidential election is
- 23:59Speaker 1: clearly a bluestone because you have massive numbers of federal
- 24:03Speaker 1: workers in the northern part of the state, but you
- 24:06Speaker 1: can still have in theory a Republican governor because those workers,
- 24:11Speaker 1: while they're Democrats, they're not as deeply invested in someone
- 24:16Speaker 1: being a Democrat or not being a Republican in the
- 24:20Speaker 1: governorship because it doesn't impact their job. Well, you know,
- 24:25Speaker 1: you would think that that would not really matter very
- 24:28Speaker 1: much because the state has nothing to do with the
- 24:31Speaker 1: federal government shutdown. But I think symbolically, people just wanted
- 24:35Speaker 1: a way to express their anger. They're anger at Trump,
- 24:39Speaker 1: they're anger at the shut down, and so they all
- 24:42Speaker 1: showed up. And so the Democratic turnout was extraordinary for
- 24:48Speaker 1: an off year election in Virginia. And so whether it
- 24:52Speaker 1: was conscious or subconscious, maybe even subliminal, the government shutdown
- 24:57Speaker 1: clearly hurt Republicans in Virginia, even though that's totally illogical
- 25:02Speaker 1: because none of the people that were up for election
- 25:06Speaker 1: had anything to do with the shutdown whatsoever, because obviously
- 25:10Speaker 1: that's federal as opposed to state. But you know, people,
- 25:14Speaker 1: when they are angry and they get any sort of
- 25:17Speaker 1: an outlet to express that angry, that anger, they're going
- 25:21Speaker 1: to do it. And that's what happened in Virginia. And
- 25:25Speaker 1: so it was a disaster in New York City. It
- 25:28Speaker 1: was a disaster in New Jersey, especially with regard to
- 25:31Speaker 1: the margins. It was a complete and total disaster in
- 25:34Speaker 1: Virginia up and down the ballot, and here in California
- 25:38Speaker 1: it was also a complete and total disaster with Proposition fifty,
- 25:43Speaker 1: the redistricting proposition that was created by Governor Gavin Newsom.
- 25:49Speaker 1: And it first looked like, you know, it was going
- 25:52Speaker 1: to win by only a couple of points. Except when
- 25:54Speaker 1: I first talked about this, I thought it was going
- 25:56Speaker 1: to be fairly close. I thought two to four points
- 25:59Speaker 1: is what but Proposition fifty would win by then last
- 26:02Speaker 1: week I waved the white flag because it was clear
- 26:06Speaker 1: this was over. But even I did not anticipate the
- 26:10Speaker 1: massive margins by which Proposition fifty would win. Right now
- 26:15Speaker 1: currently has sixty three percent of the vote, which is
- 26:20Speaker 1: just an absolute slaughter, even in a state where about
- 26:24Speaker 1: sixty three percent of the voters are Democrats. But the
- 26:29Speaker 1: exit polling on Proposition fifty presented maybe the most stunning
- 26:37Speaker 1: result in the history of exit polls. And I realize
- 26:39Speaker 1: that sounds like hyperbole. I don't think it is. I
- 26:43Speaker 1: cannot recall a result that is more stupefying and in
- 26:48Speaker 1: some ways more depressing than this one. So if you
- 26:54Speaker 1: are unfamiliar Proposition fifty allows the state constitution to be shit,
- 27:01Speaker 1: and instead of the independent Commissions determining what the congressional
- 27:05Speaker 1: districts are gonna be for the next election in twenty
- 27:08Speaker 1: twenty six, essentially the Democratic Party is gonna be allowed,
- 27:12Speaker 1: in fact, literally to draw their own congressional districts against
- 27:17Speaker 1: the state constitution, allegedly temporarily. But that's in my view
- 27:22Speaker 1: bullshit on every level. I mean, first of all, I
- 27:26Speaker 1: don't believe that they're gonna abide by the temporary element
- 27:30Speaker 1: of this, But it almost doesn't matter because if this
- 27:34Speaker 1: holds up in court, what you're gonna do is you're
- 27:37Speaker 1: gonna wipe out almost every Republican in the States. So
- 27:41Speaker 1: even if you go back to the independent Commission in
- 27:44Speaker 1: twenty thirty, it's not gonna matter because there will be
- 27:49Speaker 1: no Republicans to run because there will be no incumbents
- 27:54Speaker 1: and you're gonna have like fifty Democrat incumbents. So that
- 28:00Speaker 1: and that's a huge advantage, especially in the state that's
- 28:03Speaker 1: overwhelmingly Democrat. So there's so many problems with the proposition itself.
- 28:08Speaker 1: It's in my view on constitutional I believe it's a
- 28:11Speaker 1: moral it's incredibly expensive. I can't believe Gavin Newsom got
- 28:16Speaker 1: away with spending over two hundred million dollars on a
- 28:18Speaker 1: one question ballot initiative that was obviously partisan politics, and
- 28:25Speaker 1: obviously it intended to help his run for the presidential
- 28:29Speaker 1: nomination in twenty twenty eight. I mean, this is as
- 28:32Speaker 1: brazenly political as anything you could possibly get. All less
- 28:36Speaker 1: than a year after a massive wildfire burns most of
- 28:39Speaker 1: Los Angeles to the ground, there's not a sign of
- 28:42Speaker 1: any kind of rebuilding. And Newsom gets away with spending
- 28:46Speaker 1: this kind of money on a politically partisan proposition that
- 28:51Speaker 1: is clearly intended to help prop up and promote his
- 28:56Speaker 1: presidential ambitions, and he gets away with it completely. But anyway,
- 28:59Speaker 1: here's the result of this exit poll that and this
- 29:05Speaker 1: was reported on Fox News. I don't know who did
- 29:07Speaker 1: the exit poll, but this is just amazing. So the
- 29:10Speaker 1: thing passes with sixty three percent support. And what it
- 29:14Speaker 1: does is it takes the power away from the Independent
- 29:19Speaker 1: Redistricting Commission and gives it to the Democratic Party. Okay,
- 29:23Speaker 1: that's what this proposition does. So sixty three percent of
- 29:27Speaker 1: people who voted voted in favor of that. Yet in
- 29:31Speaker 1: the exit polls it indicated that ninety two percent, ninety
- 29:38Speaker 1: two percent of people who voted across the board wanted
- 29:44Speaker 1: the lines to be drawn by the independent commission. Only
- 29:49Speaker 1: seven percent wanted it drawn by the political parties themselves.
- 29:55Speaker 1: So your mind just he gets blown by this insanity.
- 30:03Speaker 1: Ninety two percent of people who voted strongly disagreed with
- 30:09Speaker 1: the what the impact of this was gonna be or
- 30:12Speaker 1: should be, or how this should go, and yet sixty
- 30:16Speaker 1: three percent of the people voted for it. So if
- 30:20Speaker 1: you just do the numbers, well over fifty percent of
- 30:25Speaker 1: the voters voted for something that they philosophically disagree with
- 30:31Speaker 1: based upon their answers in the exit poll. He just
- 30:36Speaker 1: can't make this up. And I don't know how many
- 30:40Speaker 1: of those people even understand what they did. There's probably
- 30:44Speaker 1: a large percentage who just voted for whatever their friends
- 30:49Speaker 1: were doing, whatever the signs told them to do, or
- 30:52Speaker 1: if they're a Democrat, you know what Newsom told them
- 30:55Speaker 1: to do. But even the people that voted for this
- 30:59Speaker 1: boon did not agree philosophically with the way that the
- 31:04Speaker 1: districts ought to be drawn. And it's just incredibly frustrating,
- 31:10Speaker 1: especially as someone who's now lived in California for far
- 31:14Speaker 1: too long, over twenty years, and looks like I'm doomed
- 31:16Speaker 1: to die here hopefully soon's it's just unbelievable, and this
- 31:22Speaker 1: is going to have far reaching implications if it is
- 31:26Speaker 1: not thrown out in court, and it will be challenged,
- 31:30Speaker 1: and I actually I hate whenever i'm a little bit optimistic,
- 31:33Speaker 1: because it always turns almost always turns out that I'm wrong.
- 31:37Speaker 1: But it almost feels like there's got to be a
- 31:42Speaker 1: lot of confidence by Republicans that this is going to
- 31:46Speaker 1: eventually be overturned, probably by the US Supreme Court, because
- 31:51Speaker 1: the level of outrage and the amount of history onics
- 31:56Speaker 1: and the people that are very upset about this on
- 31:59Speaker 1: the national level is pretty small. I'm not seeing anywhere
- 32:04Speaker 1: close to the level of outrage that I should or
- 32:07Speaker 1: people being incensed by this. I mean, first of all,
- 32:12Speaker 1: forget about the fact that it looks like Democrats are
- 32:14Speaker 1: going to pick up at least five new congressional seats,
- 32:18Speaker 1: and I thought at first it would be maybe four,
- 32:21Speaker 1: maybe five. The New York Times thinks they might get
- 32:24Speaker 1: a completely clean sweep, depending on how that goes in
- 32:28Speaker 1: the next midterm election. If these lines that just got
- 32:32Speaker 1: approved by voters are accepted as legitimate by the court system,
- 32:37Speaker 1: which of course would have a massive impact on next
- 32:40Speaker 1: year's midterms and almost ensure that Democrats will take over
- 32:45Speaker 1: the House Representatives, even if yesterday wasn't a disaster for Republicans.
- 32:53Speaker 1: But I gotta believe that there must be some confidence
- 32:56Speaker 1: that this is going to be overturned. I'm just reading
- 32:59Speaker 1: the tea leaves based upon the fact that people are
- 33:02Speaker 1: not nearly as enraged by this result on the national
- 33:06Speaker 1: level and upset by it as they should be. Now,
- 33:10Speaker 1: maybe you know, they're over confident, maybe I'm misreading it,
- 33:14Speaker 1: maybe I'm being too optimistic. But assuming that this holds
- 33:18Speaker 1: and is not overturned by the US Supreme Court, which
- 33:21Speaker 1: I think it should be, I mean, there's so many
- 33:24Speaker 1: problems with the way this was done, but you know
- 33:28Speaker 1: that doesn't often matter anymore in this very strange world
- 33:31Speaker 1: in which we live. But if this holds, it means,
- 33:34Speaker 1: first of all, that Democrats will almost certainly win the
- 33:37Speaker 1: House of Representatives in twenty twenty six. And here in California,
- 33:42Speaker 1: it's now Katie bar the door. The floodgates are open.
- 33:45Speaker 1: I mean, the floodgates have been open for a long
- 33:47Speaker 1: time here, but now there's zero ambiguity about it. Democrats
- 33:51Speaker 1: can do whatever the hell they want with literally zero opposition,
- 33:59Speaker 1: zero position. And you know, you want to talk about
- 34:02Speaker 1: a real world impact of some of this stuff. You know,
- 34:06Speaker 1: you may recall in the clip from Mondami that I
- 34:09Speaker 1: just played, one of the things that he goes into
- 34:12Speaker 1: is how they're going to go after landlords, unfair landlords,
- 34:18Speaker 1: and you know, they're gonna they're gonna fix the rent
- 34:20Speaker 1: and freeze the rent. You know, that actually had a
- 34:24Speaker 1: massive impact on me when I watched that speech, knowing
- 34:29Speaker 1: what was happening with Proposition fifty, and knowing that we
- 34:31Speaker 1: have a gubernatorial election here in California next year, and
- 34:36Speaker 1: how every single one of the candidates on the Democratic
- 34:39Speaker 1: side is going to mimic Mandami. I said to my wife, well,
- 34:44Speaker 1: you know what I think our plan to buy a
- 34:46Speaker 1: rental property here in Ventura County along the shoreline, which
- 34:50Speaker 1: is had been our plan. In fact, we had put
- 34:53Speaker 1: a bid on one a couple of months ago. It
- 34:54Speaker 1: should have been accepted, but stupidly the owners did not
- 34:58Speaker 1: accept it. I think they're going to regret that. But anyway,
- 35:00Speaker 1: the point is We've been in the market for a
- 35:03Speaker 1: condo along the beach, and the point of our doing
- 35:09Speaker 1: that was to rent it out before we eventually use
- 35:13Speaker 1: it as a place to retire to, and so we
- 35:17Speaker 1: would be renting it out for a fairly significant number
- 35:20Speaker 1: of years. And I just don't feel comfortable doing that
- 35:23Speaker 1: anymore because I am convinced that in an effort to
- 35:28Speaker 1: mimic Mandami, these lunatics in California, now knowing they can
- 35:32Speaker 1: get away with anything, are going to do the exact
- 35:35Speaker 1: same thing when it comes to rents. And you know,
- 35:39Speaker 1: the pendulum, which has already swung very much from the
- 35:43Speaker 1: landlord to the tenant in liberal states like California, is
- 35:47Speaker 1: going to go to the extreme and getting a tenant
- 35:51Speaker 1: out of your property or getting them to pay their rent,
- 35:54Speaker 1: or increasing the rent if inflation goes crazy, is going
- 35:56Speaker 1: to be impossible. It's you're basically going to make it
- 36:00Speaker 1: an idiotic idea for someone to be a property owner
- 36:04Speaker 1: and to rent out their property. That's where this is
- 36:08Speaker 1: gonna go. And I mean, it's obvious to me this
- 36:11Speaker 1: is where it's gonna go. And proposition fifty winning by
- 36:14Speaker 1: that larger margin basically told the Democratic Party. Hey, go
- 36:18Speaker 1: go knock yourself out. You can do whatever the fuck
- 36:21Speaker 1: you want now. Haha. Happy days are here, you know it.
- 36:27Speaker 1: And Mandami is gonna show the way. Mandamie is going
- 36:31Speaker 1: to show them that anything is possible. You should not
- 36:34Speaker 1: be limited by your imagination anymore about what you can
- 36:37Speaker 1: do to impose your progressive socialist Marxist will on the
- 36:45Speaker 1: people of your state, or in Manami's case, the people
- 36:49Speaker 1: of your city. And so this is a very very
- 36:55Speaker 1: dark time we're heading into, and it's going to have
- 36:58Speaker 1: real world impact and it's going to happen probably pretty
- 37:02Speaker 1: darn quickly. Now, as far as why this all happened,
- 37:07Speaker 1: I get that as an anti Trump conservative, everyone's going
- 37:11Speaker 1: to expect me to be blaming Donald Trump. Donald Trump
- 37:14Speaker 1: is not the only element to blame for what transpired
- 37:18Speaker 1: last night, but he is absolutely one of the key
- 37:22Speaker 1: elements to blame. And I think it's important to take
- 37:26Speaker 1: a moment to now consider who Donald Trump is as
- 37:30Speaker 1: a political entity. Now, you may recall that one of
- 37:34Speaker 1: the things that happened when Trump won the twenty twenty
- 37:37Speaker 1: four election is that my view of him, at least
- 37:41Speaker 1: temporarily significantly changed because my biggest, not my only by far,
- 37:48Speaker 1: but my biggest objection to Trump has always been he's
- 37:52Speaker 1: a political loser. This is before the twenty twenty four election.
- 37:56Speaker 1: That he's been a political loser that you're going to
- 37:59Speaker 1: sell If you're going to sell out, you got to
- 38:02Speaker 1: at least get something really good in return. And it's
- 38:05Speaker 1: always been my view that Republicans had completely sold out
- 38:09Speaker 1: their soul and their long term credibility and all their
- 38:12Speaker 1: principles in exchange for what. Well, prior to twenty twenty
- 38:17Speaker 1: four's election, it was in exchange for very little. Three
- 38:23Speaker 1: Supreme Court justices, two of which have turned out to
- 38:26Speaker 1: be one's turned out to be good, but by and
- 38:30Speaker 1: large it's not been a tremendous result on the Supreme
- 38:34Speaker 1: Court side. Yes, there's been some some cases that have
- 38:37Speaker 1: gone in directions that were good that wouldn't have happened
- 38:40Speaker 1: if Trump had not gotten those justices on the Supreme Court.
- 38:44Speaker 1: And yes, Hillary Clinton was prevented from being president. And yes,
- 38:49Speaker 1: there was a tax cut, so there was a few
- 38:51Speaker 1: things good that had happened. But on the negative side
- 38:56Speaker 1: of the leisure prior to twenty twenty four, there was
- 38:59Speaker 1: all sorts of terrible things. There was a mid term
- 39:03Speaker 1: loss that was very significant in twenty eighteen. There was
- 39:07Speaker 1: the COVID panic that was facilitated and embraced by Donald Trump.
- 39:13Speaker 1: The fauci the Fauciization of America, if you will, facilitated
- 39:18Speaker 1: by Donald Trump. You had after he lost that twenty
- 39:23Speaker 1: twenty general election, you had him then effectively costing two
- 39:27Speaker 1: losses in Senate seats in Georgia. You had a significant
- 39:32Speaker 1: situation that was similar in twenty twenty two, where most
- 39:37Speaker 1: of the candidates that Trump endorsed lost and other than
- 39:40Speaker 1: Ron DeSantis winning in twenty twenty two, it was a
- 39:44Speaker 1: very disappointing night for Republicans because the Trump brand so
- 39:50Speaker 1: dominated Republican politics, and Trump is and has been the
- 39:55Speaker 1: GOP brand since twenty sixteen. You got to take the
- 40:00Speaker 1: good with the bad on that, and there was bad
- 40:02Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. But then in twenty twenty four
- 40:06Speaker 1: he won. And I said, you know what, Now he's
- 40:10Speaker 1: won two out of three presidential elections. He's prevented Hillary
- 40:14Speaker 1: Clinton and Kamala Harris from being president. He's prevented a
- 40:19Speaker 1: second Joe Biden term. There's positives to that, and at
- 40:23Speaker 1: least now I can see a scenario where, while the
- 40:26Speaker 1: sellout is still probably not going to work out in
- 40:29Speaker 1: the long run, at least it wasn't as bad a
- 40:32Speaker 1: deal as I thought it was before Trump won the
- 40:36Speaker 1: twenty twenty four election. But now here we are a
- 40:40Speaker 1: year after winning the twenty twenty four election, and I
- 40:43Speaker 1: think we have to start to reevaluate that again because
- 40:47Speaker 1: now we have a complete disaster in this off year election.
- 40:52Speaker 1: Now we still don't know how it's all going to
- 40:53Speaker 1: turn out with Mondami. Is it still possible that maybe
- 40:57Speaker 1: down the road that turns out to be a great
- 40:59Speaker 1: thing for America because he's seen as a disaster and
- 41:02Speaker 1: the experiment fails. Yeah, that's possible, But you cannot argue that,
- 41:06Speaker 1: at least as of right now, this was not a
- 41:09Speaker 1: terrible result for America and for any semblance of conservatism,
- 41:16Speaker 1: not just in New York but throughout the country. That
- 41:18Speaker 1: the results in New Jersey, in Virginia, and what's going
- 41:21Speaker 1: to happen in California, and what's gonna happen with the
- 41:23Speaker 1: midterm elections, because if it holds a proposition fifty, that
- 41:27Speaker 1: there's almost no chance for Republicans to hold the House
- 41:33Speaker 1: of Representatives, and without the House, effectively, Trump's presidency is over.
- 41:38Speaker 1: From a legislative perspective, of course, he hasn't really given
- 41:41Speaker 1: it damn about passing actual legislation. But I got to
- 41:45Speaker 1: tell you, folks, reading the margins, and that's the part
- 41:49Speaker 1: that Maggie is really not understanding. Reading the margins. Especially
- 41:53Speaker 1: in Virginia, it is not difficult to see that the
- 41:58Speaker 1: mood of the country is such that the Senate majority
- 42:03Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six is also in jeopardy. Based upon
- 42:07Speaker 1: last night's results, you can see easily a world where
- 42:10Speaker 1: Republicans lose Senate seats in North Carolina, in Ohio, in
- 42:16Speaker 1: Iowa where the tariffs are not playing well at all,
- 42:20Speaker 1: and you may lose a very moderate Republican in Maine
- 42:24Speaker 1: and Collins. But when it comes to Supreme Court battles,
- 42:29Speaker 1: you know, Collins and Murkowski are already useless. So you
- 42:32Speaker 1: really only have fifty one votes plus jd vance as
- 42:35Speaker 1: a tiebreaker if you want to, you know, convince Clarence
- 42:39Speaker 1: Thomas and Sam Alito to retire, which I'm all in
- 42:41Speaker 1: favor of now. I mean that to me is one
- 42:43Speaker 1: of the subheadlines of last night's results, Clarence Thomas and
- 42:48Speaker 1: sam Alito need to retire now. And I have no
- 42:52Speaker 1: expectation that's going to happen, but they need to retire
- 42:55Speaker 1: now because, based upon what we saw last night, the
- 42:59Speaker 1: midterm elections at twenty twenty six could be as big
- 43:03Speaker 1: a disaster. And under that scenario, you lose the House,
- 43:07Speaker 1: you lose the Senate, and now there is no ability
- 43:11Speaker 1: to replace Clarence Thomas and sam Alito, and the Supreme
- 43:15Speaker 1: Court might be the last bashion of defense against this
- 43:19Speaker 1: onslaught of progressive socialist Marxist insanity that we're going to
- 43:24Speaker 1: be facing potentially with a goddamn Gavin Knewso presidency in
- 43:28Speaker 1: twenty twenty nine. And that is not an exaggeration. And
- 43:34Speaker 1: so I actually think we start to reevaluate in the
- 43:38Speaker 1: rational world, we start to reevaluate what the twenty twenty
- 43:41Speaker 1: four election really was about, because look, I gave Trump
- 43:48Speaker 1: all sorts of credit for that, but he has greatly
- 43:51Speaker 1: exaggerated the nature of his victory. He did not get
- 43:55Speaker 1: fifty percent of the vote. He did win the popular vote,
- 43:58Speaker 1: which is signific and amazing, but he won the electoral
- 44:03Speaker 1: college because he won three states by less than two
- 44:07Speaker 1: percent of the vote. The so called you know Midwestern
- 44:12Speaker 1: firewall that never turned out to be a firewall for
- 44:16Speaker 1: Democrats Wisconsin and Michigan, Pennsylvania, and so you know, if
- 44:24Speaker 1: those states go a point in the other direction or
- 44:28Speaker 1: point and a half in the other direction, Harris actually
- 44:30Speaker 1: wins the election, which I mean, which is, you know,
- 44:35Speaker 1: similar to what happened. The last three elections have all
- 44:38Speaker 1: been very very similar. Three states go the other direction
- 44:41Speaker 1: and the losing candidate actually wins, and so yes on
- 44:46Speaker 1: paper to someone who doesn't really understand the way this works,
- 44:49Speaker 1: Trump's victory looked tremendous. It really wasn't that tremendous. It
- 44:55Speaker 1: was impressive historically, but you also have to remember what
- 45:00Speaker 1: the circumstances were. Trump ran against a geriatric Joe Biden
- 45:06Speaker 1: who shit the bed in the first debate. Then Trump
- 45:10Speaker 1: got shot and survived in incredibly dramatic fashion. Then Democrats,
- 45:19Speaker 1: in an incredibly undemocratic and hypocritical fashion, installed Kamala Harris,
- 45:26Speaker 1: a terrible candidate, in at the last second. So all
- 45:32Speaker 1: three of those events are basically unprecedented in American modern
- 45:37Speaker 1: political history. You're running against somebody who physically can't do
- 45:42Speaker 1: the job, and that gets exposed in a national debate.
- 45:45Speaker 1: You get shot, and with blood dripping down your face,
- 45:50Speaker 1: you pump your fists and say fight, fight, fight, live
- 45:53Speaker 1: on national television. You can't get any better than that
- 45:57Speaker 1: from a political theater perspective. And then you have a
- 46:01Speaker 1: terrible candidate installed at the last second to run against you.
- 46:05Speaker 1: And even under those circumstances, Trump didn't get fifty percent
- 46:11Speaker 1: of the vote. And as I've already said, if he
- 46:14Speaker 1: loses those three states where's he only won by a
- 46:19Speaker 1: point and a half each, he loses the election. So
- 46:23Speaker 1: I think, while I'm not changing my opinion that okay,
- 46:27Speaker 1: you can't call Trump a loser on the presidential side,
- 46:31Speaker 1: I do think that in retrospect now we need to reevaluate.
- 46:36Speaker 1: And I think one of the ways where we should
- 46:38Speaker 1: be reevaluating this is what does it mean to be
- 46:42Speaker 1: a Trump voter, to be a Maga voter. It is
- 46:46Speaker 1: abundantly clear now that we have enough data that there
- 46:50Speaker 1: is a large group of people who will vote for
- 46:54Speaker 1: Donald Trump in a presidential election but will never vote
- 46:59Speaker 1: for a Repubt publican in any sort of state or
- 47:02Speaker 1: local election. Now, what's driving these people, I don't fully know.
- 47:08Speaker 1: I'm sure that there are some people who are just
- 47:11Speaker 1: live and die with Donald Trump. They love him to death,
- 47:14Speaker 1: and either they just don't care that much about the
- 47:16Speaker 1: other elections, or they're philosophically not motivated to actually vote,
- 47:20Speaker 1: or whatever it is. Maybe they're actually voting Democrat. Who
- 47:23Speaker 1: knows that's possible too, So I'm sure that there are
- 47:27Speaker 1: some people in that category. However, I'm now convinced, and
- 47:31Speaker 1: I'm theorized about this before on the podcast. I'm now
- 47:35Speaker 1: convinced that some of these Trump only voters have just
- 47:38Speaker 1: been voting for the laughs and the chaos. I truly
- 47:42Speaker 1: believe that. I don't know what the number is. I
- 47:45Speaker 1: don't think it's possible to know what the number is.
- 47:47Speaker 1: But now that we have enough data and enough elections
- 47:51Speaker 1: under our belt to be able to perceive what's really
- 47:54Speaker 1: transpired here, it is clear to me that there must
- 47:58Speaker 1: be a not insignificant number of people who voted for
- 48:04Speaker 1: Trump for president in sixteen and in twenty and in
- 48:07Speaker 1: twenty four simply because he's funny and they love the chaos.
- 48:14Speaker 1: These are the arsonists of the world. These are the
- 48:17Speaker 1: anarchists of the world. These are the let it burn
- 48:20Speaker 1: to the ground people. I just want entertainment voters, and
- 48:26Speaker 1: those people were never Republicans, they weren't even really Trump fans,
- 48:30Speaker 1: and who knows, they may have been the difference between
- 48:33Speaker 1: him winning and losing in twenty sixteen and twenty twenty four.
- 48:38Speaker 1: By the way, those are exactly the type of people
- 48:41Speaker 1: who would elude polsters. So not only does this make
- 48:45Speaker 1: sense from the perspective of, okay, how do you understand
- 48:49Speaker 1: why these people don't show up in non Trump elections,
- 48:53Speaker 1: it would also explain why pollsters have had such a
- 48:56Speaker 1: difficult time in Trump elections, because the people I just
- 49:02Speaker 1: described are not going to be responding to pollsters, and
- 49:06Speaker 1: they're going to be very easy for posters to miss.
- 49:10Speaker 1: And I don't have proof of this, It's just a theory,
- 49:13Speaker 1: and I think the results from last night certainly promote
- 49:17Speaker 1: that idea to at least be something to consider. Now.
- 49:22Speaker 1: Trump's reaction to this was typically bizarre and narcissistic. Trump
- 49:31Speaker 1: posted on social media that there were two reasons, based
- 49:35Speaker 1: upon what so called experts were saying, two reasons why
- 49:38Speaker 1: Republicans lost. One because Trump wasn't on the ballot. Okay,
- 49:43Speaker 1: I've just explained my perspective on that. And two, because
- 49:47Speaker 1: of the government shutdown, which was quite remarkable for the
- 49:51Speaker 1: President of the United States to effectively, if you use
- 49:54Speaker 1: your brain, essentially take credit or ownership over the shut down,
- 50:01Speaker 1: and to acknowledge that it's been a political loser. Now,
- 50:05Speaker 1: I'm somebody who thought that Republicans were actually holding their
- 50:08Speaker 1: own when it came to the narrative of the shutdown.
- 50:11Speaker 1: And I've already dealt with how I think people underestimated
- 50:16Speaker 1: how significant the shutdown was going to be when it
- 50:18Speaker 1: came to Virginia voters for reasons that don't make sense logically,
- 50:23Speaker 1: but they may make sense psychologically. And so Trump is
- 50:29Speaker 1: trying to claim that if we had just had him
- 50:31Speaker 1: on the ballot, then it might have been different for Republicans.
- 50:35Speaker 1: And I guess if he hadn't approved the government shutdown,
- 50:39Speaker 1: then also it wouldn't have been such a bad night
- 50:42Speaker 1: for Republicans. And so it's just unbelievable that Trump has
- 50:48Speaker 1: this kind of reaction to what's going on. He's also
- 50:51Speaker 1: apparently seemingly thrown down the gauntlet on Mandami, putting out
- 50:56Speaker 1: a social media post overnight late at night saying so
- 51:00Speaker 1: it begins, which you can interpret as almost anything, but
- 51:03Speaker 1: many people have interpreted as it's going to be war
- 51:07Speaker 1: between Trump, obviously a guy who spent most of his
- 51:11Speaker 1: life in New York City, and Zorn Mundani, who is
- 51:14Speaker 1: now the new mayor of New York City. But as
- 51:17Speaker 1: much as I'm concerned about Mondannie, I'm actually more concerned
- 51:21Speaker 1: right now about Gavin Newsom, not just because he's the
- 51:24Speaker 1: governor of my state here in California, but because this
- 51:28Speaker 1: is all breaking absolutely perfectly for him to be the
- 51:32Speaker 1: Democratic nominee in twenty twenty eight and potentially, very potentially
- 51:37Speaker 1: being the president of the United States in twenty twenty nine,
- 51:40Speaker 1: and he's been doing all sorts of interviews. One of
- 51:43Speaker 1: the many boondoggles involving proposition fifty is that I guess
- 51:49Speaker 1: the media decided, because these rules are now nebulous, that
- 51:55Speaker 1: interviewing Gavin Newsom, who clearly could not be more associated
- 52:00Speaker 1: with proposition fifty, is not a situation that requires them
- 52:04Speaker 1: in any way, shape or form to provide you some
- 52:07Speaker 1: sort of fair use or you know, the old doctrine
- 52:13Speaker 1: that used to indicate that he had equal time that
- 52:16Speaker 1: doesn't exist anymore. But there used to be at least
- 52:18Speaker 1: some semblance of fairness that, Okay, if you're gonna have
- 52:22Speaker 1: Newsom on constantly on major media outlets to promote yes
- 52:27Speaker 1: on Proposition fifty, shouldn't you have somebody on the other side. No, no, no,
- 52:33Speaker 1: that that doesn't count anymore. So Newsom was getting two
- 52:36Speaker 1: bites of the apple with all these interviews that he
- 52:39Speaker 1: was doing leading up to election day one. He was
- 52:43Speaker 1: promoting Proposition fifty with no opposition, with nobody there to
- 52:47Speaker 1: mention that the comparison to Texas is utterly bogus. I mean,
- 52:51Speaker 1: that was the biggest lie of Proposition fifty was that
- 52:54Speaker 1: somehow this was in response and this was exactly what
- 52:59Speaker 1: Texas was doing, stealing Republican seats in Texas. So now
- 53:02Speaker 1: we got to steal Democratic seats in California. That is bullshit,
- 53:07Speaker 1: And anybody that's looked at it remotely objectively knows it's
- 53:10Speaker 1: bullshit for a whole host of reasons. I mean, what
- 53:14Speaker 1: Texas did was perfectly legal. What California did was going
- 53:17Speaker 1: against their own state constitution. What Texas did was in
- 53:21Speaker 1: response to the Biden administration, essentially forcing their hand on
- 53:27Speaker 1: what transpired. But Anyway, the point I'm getting at here
- 53:31Speaker 1: is that that Newsom got to not just promote proposition
- 53:35Speaker 1: fifty in all these interviews, but also to promote himself. Obviously,
- 53:40Speaker 1: that's what he cares about most. He's a sociopathic narcissist,
- 53:44Speaker 1: which is why it's interesting that he and Trump have
- 53:47Speaker 1: seemed to have this love hate relationship. And how at
- 53:50Speaker 1: one point Trump probably considered Newsome to be part of
- 53:53Speaker 1: his clan because Newsom used to be married to Kimberly Guilfoyle,
- 53:57Speaker 1: who was once the fiance of Donald Trump Junior. The
- 54:00Speaker 1: mind boggles, and how this whole thing has gone down.
- 54:03Speaker 1: But Newsom and Trump are actually very very similar psychologically,
- 54:08Speaker 1: and so he's been promoting this notion while also pretending
- 54:13Speaker 1: that he's not thirsting after it, that he's going to
- 54:16Speaker 1: be the Democratic front runner in the twenty twenty eight
- 54:20Speaker 1: nominating process. And one of these interviews that he did recently,
- 54:25Speaker 1: and he's all he's been doing has been interviews. I mean,
- 54:27Speaker 1: as if he has nothing else to do. Is governor
- 54:29Speaker 1: of California, where we have this deficit, and this city
- 54:32Speaker 1: of Los Angeles is trying to recover from having burned down.
- 54:36Speaker 1: And here he is spending hundreds of millions of dollars
- 54:39Speaker 1: on this partisan, politically advantageous proposition that really is very
- 54:44Speaker 1: much not just about promoting democratic interest in Congress, but
- 54:48Speaker 1: promoting his campaign to be the Democratic presidential nominee. In
- 54:52Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight, he did an interview with Kristen Welker
- 54:55Speaker 1: on NBC's Meet the Press, and this was really quite amazing.
- 55:00Speaker 1: This got mocked quite a bit on social media, especially
- 55:03Speaker 1: on x and rightfully so, because Welker asks Newsome about
- 55:08Speaker 1: the issue of running for president in twenty twenty eight,
- 55:11Speaker 1: and Newsom lies and claims that he doesn't want to
- 55:14Speaker 1: run for president in twenty twenty eight, and then in
- 55:18Speaker 1: the next breath talks about how he hates when politicians
- 55:22Speaker 1: lie to you. I mean, you just can't make this up.
- 55:25Speaker 1: He's literally condemning lying while lying, and anybody with a
- 55:30Speaker 1: brain can see right through it. And here's what that
- 55:32Speaker 1: sounded like on NBC's Meet the Press.
- 55:36Speaker 4: You've said, as we've discussed, you are considering a run
- 55:39Speaker 4: for president, and you've said you'll make a decision about
- 55:43Speaker 4: whether to run for president after the midterms. Yeah, I mean,
- 55:46Speaker 4: why do governor, Let me ask you why do you
- 55:49Speaker 4: want to be president?
- 55:50Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not suggesting I am.
- 55:52Speaker 5: I'm saying I have in response to someone talked about it.
- 55:54Speaker 5: And I hate when I nothing. I dislike more than
- 55:59Speaker 5: the politician that sits there and lies to you and
- 56:02Speaker 5: we all just sit there, roll in our eyes, going
- 56:04Speaker 5: give me a break. So as it relates to that
- 56:08Speaker 5: there's nothing on the road, I'm focused on Prop fifty.
- 56:10Speaker 5: I'm focusing on fair, free elections and to the extent,
- 56:14Speaker 5: fate the future. There's an alignment. You have a big
- 56:18Speaker 5: enough why, you have a what and how you meet
- 56:21Speaker 5: a moment, and that moment presents itself in a year,
- 56:24Speaker 5: year and a half, we'll see what happens.
- 56:28Speaker 1: Now. While that was rightfully mocked on right wing social media,
- 56:34Speaker 1: the problem I have is that Gavin Newsom is actually
- 56:40Speaker 1: an extremely good liar. He makes Bill Clinton look like
- 56:46Speaker 1: an amateur. Bill Clinton was considered to be a great liar.
- 56:50Speaker 1: Newsom is even better now. Just because a lot of
- 56:54Speaker 1: people can see through it doesn't mean that he's not
- 56:58Speaker 1: a great liar and can't get away with it with
- 57:01Speaker 1: a majority of the American people. And there is way
- 57:05Speaker 1: way too much complacency among right wing maga Republicans about
- 57:12Speaker 1: a Gavin Newsom presidential nomination in twenty twenty eight, just
- 57:17Speaker 1: like there was way too much overconfidence after the twenty
- 57:20Speaker 1: twenty four election. Maga people tend to be delusionally optimistic,
- 57:26Speaker 1: and they overestimated Trump's victory in twenty twenty four, and
- 57:31Speaker 1: they're underestimating the dangers of Gavin Newsom, because just because
- 57:38Speaker 1: conservatives and Republicans can so easily see through Gavenussom does
- 57:43Speaker 1: not mean that the people that are going to determine
- 57:46Speaker 1: who wins the twenty twenty eight presidential election will be
- 57:49Speaker 1: able to see the same thing, especially if the economy
- 57:54Speaker 1: sucks and Trump is causing all sorts of chaos when
- 57:58Speaker 1: it comes to who is success is going to be,
- 58:01Speaker 1: and you have a situation where the country is already
- 58:05Speaker 1: very very divided in presidential politics basically fifty to fifty.
- 58:09Speaker 1: In my view, Newsom is going to be a very
- 58:13Speaker 1: very dangerous man. He is a sociopath, He is evil.
- 58:18Speaker 1: I hate this man more than I have hated any
- 58:21Speaker 1: other politician. I have an OJ Simpson nineteen ninety four
- 58:27Speaker 1: ninety five level of hatred of Gavin Newsom. But you
- 58:32Speaker 1: have to understand how this thing is shaping up right
- 58:36Speaker 1: now in a way that could not be more perfectly
- 58:39Speaker 1: suited for him, and the media is buying right in
- 58:44Speaker 1: the media is lovingness. This is almost a comically parody
- 58:49Speaker 1: like headline that came from ABC News just a couple
- 58:53Speaker 1: of days ago, and this was mocked again on X.
- 58:57Speaker 1: But this is emblematic of where I'm seeing this narrative
- 59:01Speaker 1: going when it comes to the media and how they're
- 59:04Speaker 1: gonna be embracing Gaven Newssom, if not as the clear
- 59:09Speaker 1: favorite to be the Democratic nominee in twenty twenty eight,
- 59:12Speaker 1: clearly a person who is gonna have to be reckoned with.
- 59:15Speaker 1: Here's the actual headline from ABC News ABC News. California
- 59:21Speaker 1: Governor Gaven Neussom is a leader running miles ahead of others,
- 59:28Speaker 1: experts explained to ABC News. What Gavin neussm is a
- 59:35Speaker 1: leader running miles ahead of others, experts explained to ABC News. Boy,
- 59:43Speaker 1: that sounds awfully objective. I wonder who these experts were.
- 59:48Speaker 1: Were these the masks stop COVID experts? Where these the
- 59:56Speaker 1: vaccine is very effective and totally safe experts? Where these
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: are the experts that you know that said that the
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation that you know you can.
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: The list could go on and on forever, this so
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: called expert class that has been completely discredited. But here
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: the bigger and more important picture here is it is
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: obvious that the media is thirsting for a clear cut
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: democratic nominee in twenty twenty eight, and they see Newsome
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: now as potentially the antidote. And at first it seems
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: counterintuitive because he is so far left and he has
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: been such a disaster for California, and in irrational world,
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: he would be incredibly easy to defeat. Interrational world, all
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: you gotta do is show the price of gasoline in
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: California in comparison to the rest of the country, and
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: it's game, set match. That's all you'd have to do.
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: Interrational world, we have to get to homelessness and deficits
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: and the price of living and inflation and the cost
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: of living and the cost of housing and all sorts
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: of all sorts of other problems that California has. But
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: we don't live in that world anymore. Rationality doesn't matter,
- 1:01:21Speaker 1: truth doesn't matter, And so you would think they would
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: be looking for someone who would be a moderate that
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: could appeal to the states that actually determine who wins
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: presidential elections. But we live in a world of perception
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: and persona and celebrity, and I think what they're seeing
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: is we've got a guy who's got enough celebrity, he's
- 1:01:45Speaker 1: well known enough. He's a white male. Right, we didn't
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: do so well with the black female, and we lost
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen with the female. So it's clear that
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: we need to have a male, and we probably need
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: to have a heterosexual male, and we probably need to
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: have a white heterosexual. Now there doesn't seem to be
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: another Obama on the horizon. And he's a good looking guy,
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: and boy is he a good talker, and boy is
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: he a great liar, and most importantly, he's taking the
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: fight to Trump and winning and winning. Newsom is going
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: to be perceived in Democratic ranks as having led this
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: victory in twenty twenty five, that he was the one
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: carrying the flag, he was the lead one leading the charge.
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: So in reality he's a left wing sociopathic lunatic. But
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: in perception, there's enough there for the media to use
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: to sell this. And again you have to understand the
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: difference between a democratic primary voter and a general election
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: voter if he gets the nomination. Now it's Russian Roulette
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: because of the circumstances. I've already mentioned that there's nobody
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: in the Republican side that's gonna have an enormous amount
- 1:03:02Speaker 1: of popularity, a huge amount of celebrity. Trump is going
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: to cause all sorts of problems for that person under
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: the best case scenario. And you've already got a country
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: that at best is divided fifty to fifty. And that's it.
- 1:03:15Speaker 1: That's assuming the economy doesn't go to shit and the
- 1:03:18Speaker 1: Republican brand isn't even worse than it is today after
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: a catastrophic loss last night. So I am actually gonna
- 1:03:28Speaker 1: institute a brand new I guess I would call it
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: a rating on every episode of this podcast where it's relevant,
- 1:03:37Speaker 1: which is probably gonna be almost every single week. I
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: am now instituting the Gavin Newsome Fear Factor rating, which
- 1:03:46Speaker 1: is gonna be on a scale of zero to ten,
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: ten meaning it's over, we're all gonna die. So ten
- 1:03:53Speaker 1: is a very very very high threshold. And so and
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: I don't want to start off too too high because
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: I don't want to have no place to go, and
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: we are still quite a long ways in the twenty
- 1:04:04Speaker 1: twenty eight election. But right now I'm going to institute
- 1:04:07Speaker 1: for the first time our Newsom fear factor rating at
- 1:04:11Speaker 1: six point five. That's where I am. That's my personal
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: Newsome fear factor rating with regard to him being the
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: next president of the United States, a six point five,
- 1:04:23Speaker 1: and I'm actually trying to be as optimistic as possible.
- 1:04:26Speaker 1: By the way, We're also going to be instituting an
- 1:04:28Speaker 1: AI fear factor rating as well whenever relevant. But we
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: start the news fear factor rating at six point five,
- 1:04:36Speaker 1: and I could actually make an argument that it should
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: probably be higher than that, considering how much momentum he's
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: going to have coming out of Proposition fifty winning in
- 1:04:46Speaker 1: a massive landslide and Democrats doing so incredibly well in
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: last night's election. And you know, part of why I'm
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: so fearful of Gavin Newsom and how difficult it would
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: be to defeat him, far more difficult than Republicans understand,
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: should he be the Democratic nominee in twenty twenty eight.
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: And by the way, I actually think it might be
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: easier to defeat him in a Democratic primary than it
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: would be to defeat him in a general election, which
- 1:05:14Speaker 1: is why I'm desperately hoping that Kamala Harris runs, because
- 1:05:17Speaker 1: I think if Kamala Harris runs, I think Newsom has
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: a much more difficult time getting the Democratic nomination. But
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: part of the equation, and why it is that I
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: think Newsom would be so difficult to beat in a
- 1:05:30Speaker 1: general election, is that Trump himself has paved the way
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: for Newsom in many ways, because, and I've said this
- 1:05:41Speaker 1: a million times, you enjoy as a Trump fan. You
- 1:05:44Speaker 1: enjoy him breaking all the rules, breaking all the norms,
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: not giving a shit about principle, not giving a damn
- 1:05:52Speaker 1: about the quorum. You enjoy that when it's your guy
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: in charge. But guess what that also means. It also
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: means that the rules no longer exist. There are no rules.
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: Trump blew up all the rules. And because he blew
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: up all the rules, it opens the path for someone
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: like Gavin Newsomb, who, prior to Trump would have had
- 1:06:18Speaker 1: no chance, no chance to be president of the United States.
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: I mean Newsom from a personal standpoint alone, couldn't possibly
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: be president. He admitted that he had sex with his
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: best friend's wife while she was working for him when
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: he was mayor of San Francisco. That's game set match
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: before Trump, Before Trump, that's game set match. But we
- 1:06:52Speaker 1: gave up when we sold our souls to Trump. We
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: gave up everything. We gave up every possible argument we
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: could ever have against so many people like Gavin Newsom,
- 1:07:06Speaker 1: so many people who are morally corrupt. We decided, oh,
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: that doesn't matter. We sold our soul. Well, the price
- 1:07:13Speaker 1: of selling your soul is you don't have it when
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: you need it. You don't have it when you need
- 1:07:18Speaker 1: to be able to say, well, come on, this guy
- 1:07:20Speaker 1: is morally corrupt. He can't be president. And by the way,
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: that sex schedule is just a tip of the fricking
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: iceberg when it comes to Gavin Newsom. I mean, these
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: are things that are happening all the time. Just recently,
- 1:07:32Speaker 1: he got exposed for lying about his son being a
- 1:07:35Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk fan. He said his son was a Charlie
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: Kirk fan back when he interviewed him on his podcast,
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: and then after Charlie Kirk got assassinated, he got asked
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: a question about how his son reacted to Charlie Kirk's assassination,
- 1:07:51Speaker 1: and he basically said he wasn't ever a fan of
- 1:07:53Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk. What the fuck is that all about? He
- 1:07:57Speaker 1: claims to be a big Tailor Swift fan. What his
- 1:08:00Speaker 1: favorite Taylor Swift song was, He couldn't come up with one.
- 1:08:03Speaker 1: He's a complete, total fraud, a liar. But none of
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: these things matter anymore because Trump blew up all the rules.
- 1:08:16Speaker 1: And I've always said, we're going to pay for that,
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: and we may pay for it far more than I
- 1:08:21Speaker 1: ever imagined, because we may pay for it with a
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: Gavin fucking knwsome presidency in an era where AI is
- 1:08:29Speaker 1: overtaking the world, and we're going to see the COVID
- 1:08:34Speaker 1: panic on steroids, with a guy who has already told
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: us exactly what he's willing and able to do when
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: it comes to tyranny. And in a large way, it'll
- 1:08:44Speaker 1: be because if it happens, it'll be because Donald Trump
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: paved his way, not on purpose, but because of who
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: Trump is and how all principles went out the window,
- 1:08:58Speaker 1: all right and wrong the window. All rules went out
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: the window. And we have another example of this that
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: just happened in the last week. I mentioned briefly, probably
- 1:09:08Speaker 1: far too briefly, in the last episode of the podcast
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: that Donald Trump just did something when it came to
- 1:09:15Speaker 1: his pardon power that was utterly outrageous, maybe the most
- 1:09:20Speaker 1: outrageous pardon in the modern history of America, where he
- 1:09:27Speaker 1: pardoned the founder of this company called Binance, this crypto
- 1:09:31Speaker 1: company where it is obvious that the Trump family has
- 1:09:37Speaker 1: a massive, not even just theoretical, but real world conflict
- 1:09:41Speaker 1: of interest where they have made billions, billions of dollars
- 1:09:46Speaker 1: since retaking office as a direct result of this company, Binance.
- 1:09:54Speaker 1: And then Trump pardons their founder who had pled guilty,
- 1:10:01Speaker 1: pled guilty to very significant crimes, in fact, crimes that
- 1:10:06Speaker 1: most experts believe were the reason why Bidance became as
- 1:10:10Speaker 1: big as it did. These were crimes involving money laundering.
- 1:10:16Speaker 1: And so Trump pardons this dude Binance, then immediately openly
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: promotes the Trump cryptocurrency. These are things that are way
- 1:10:29Speaker 1: bigger than that. You know, the Trump people of the
- 1:10:32Speaker 1: House representatives all upset about the Joe Biden auto pen
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: and the pardons that he gave and maybe didn't approve of.
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: And I'm all in favor of that being investigated. And
- 1:10:41Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised at all if Biden had no
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: idea who he was actually pardoning, and that is absolutely
- 1:10:47Speaker 1: a scandal in interrational world. But that's nowhere big as
- 1:10:53Speaker 1: nowhere near as big as scandal as what the peers
- 1:10:56Speaker 1: happened here. And the scandal got even bigger, if that's possible,
- 1:11:00Speaker 1: when Trump did an interview with Nora O'Donnell on CBS's
- 1:11:04Speaker 1: Sixty Minutes and gave one of the most stupefying answers
- 1:11:09Speaker 1: I could ever remember Trump giving, because she laid out
- 1:11:14Speaker 1: on sixty minutes the facts surrounding the pardon, and then
- 1:11:18Speaker 1: Trump's response was he doesn't even know who this guy is,
- 1:11:24Speaker 1: which is both a lie as well as an indication
- 1:11:29Speaker 1: that what he's doing with his pardons is just as
- 1:11:32Speaker 1: bad and not worse than what Republicans are claiming Joe
- 1:11:35Speaker 1: Biden was doing with the auto pen And if you
- 1:11:38Speaker 1: think I'm making it up, I'm not. Here's what it
- 1:11:41Speaker 1: sounded like on sixty minutes.
- 1:11:44Speaker 6: So far this year, the president has pardoned or shortened
- 1:11:47Speaker 6: the sentences of more than sixteen hundred people. The latest
- 1:11:51Speaker 6: pardon was for a cryptocurrency tycoon who is known as CZ.
- 1:11:57Speaker 6: The company CZ founded Binance, helped to boost the profile
- 1:12:01Speaker 6: of the Trump family's crypto firm, World Liberty Financial. He
- 1:12:05Speaker 6: pled guilty in twenty twenty three to violating anti money
- 1:12:09Speaker 6: laundering laws. The government at the time said that CZ
- 1:12:12Speaker 6: had caused significant harm to US national security, essentially by
- 1:12:17Speaker 6: allowing terrorist groups like Hamas to move millions of dollars around.
- 1:12:21Speaker 6: Why did you pardon him?
- 1:12:22Speaker 7: Okay, are you ready? I don't know who he is.
- 1:12:24Speaker 7: I know he got a four month sentence or something
- 1:12:27Speaker 7: like that, and I heard it was a Biden witch hunt.
- 1:12:30Speaker 6: In twenty twenty five, his crypto exchange Finance helped facilitate
- 1:12:35Speaker 6: a two billion dollar purchase of World Liberty Financial's stable coin,
- 1:12:40Speaker 6: and then you pardoned CZ. How do you address the
- 1:12:45Speaker 6: appearance of pay for play?
- 1:12:47Speaker 7: Well, here's the thing. I know nothing about it because
- 1:12:49Speaker 7: I'm too busy.
- 1:12:49Speaker 1: Doing the other.
- 1:12:50Speaker 6: But he can only tell you that.
- 1:12:52Speaker 7: I can only tell you this. My sons are into it.
- 1:12:56Speaker 7: I'm glad they are because it's probably a great industry crypto.
- 1:12:59Speaker 1: I think it's good.
- 1:13:00Speaker 7: You know they're running a business and not in government.
- 1:13:02Speaker 6: Because World Liberty Financial has denied any involvement in the pardon.
- 1:13:08Speaker 1: Now, how does that happen? How does Donald Trump try
- 1:13:12Speaker 1: to claim on sixty minutes that he doesn't know who
- 1:13:15Speaker 1: this person is, which I don't believe. But even if
- 1:13:19Speaker 1: it's possibly true, I mean, I guess it's theoretically true
- 1:13:22Speaker 1: that he's that out of the loop, he's that clueless,
- 1:13:25Speaker 1: that his sons are just in control of this whole situation.
- 1:13:29Speaker 1: It's actually worse. It's actually worse because he's just going
- 1:13:34Speaker 1: by what his sons, you know, under that scenario, what
- 1:13:37Speaker 1: his sons told him to do. But when you consider
- 1:13:40Speaker 1: that this guy got elected president claiming he was going
- 1:13:43Speaker 1: to drain the swamp, and where we have the Republicans
- 1:13:47Speaker 1: and the House of Representatives with a very significant investigation
- 1:13:51Speaker 1: ongoing into Joe Biden's auto pen pardons, and this one
- 1:13:57Speaker 1: makes all of those pardons in comparison when it comes
- 1:14:01Speaker 1: to scandal and outrage. It's it's really stunning. But it
- 1:14:05Speaker 1: also goes to the issue I just reference when it
- 1:14:08Speaker 1: comes to Trump paving the way for someone as corrupt
- 1:14:14Speaker 1: as Gavin Newsom because there are no rules anymore, there's
- 1:14:17Speaker 1: no credibility that Republican Party and the right wing media
- 1:14:22Speaker 1: has no credibility to go after someone like a gaven
- 1:14:27Speaker 1: Neussom on almost anything, because in almost any situation, they're
- 1:14:32Speaker 1: going to be able to say, well, you are upset
- 1:14:35Speaker 1: about X, but what about when Trump did why? And
- 1:14:40Speaker 1: so it's not going to be effective. The you know,
- 1:14:45Speaker 1: the antidote or the poison will be deluded to the
- 1:14:51Speaker 1: point where it won't work on a Gavin Ussom all
- 1:14:55Speaker 1: because everyone sold their soul to Donald Trump, who has
- 1:15:00Speaker 1: no morality, no principles, no ethics, and is willing to
- 1:15:05Speaker 1: use his own personal power for the enrichment of him
- 1:15:09Speaker 1: and his family, even in a situation that forget about
- 1:15:12Speaker 1: how corrupt it is when it comes to cryptocurrency, maybe
- 1:15:16Speaker 1: undermining our very currency, the dollar, which you know, the
- 1:15:21Speaker 1: long run, may be the biggest element of this whole situation.
- 1:15:25Speaker 1: So now, to be fair, I want to since I've
- 1:15:29Speaker 1: mentioned the autopen circumstance, I have to play this clip
- 1:15:34Speaker 1: from former Biden White House Press secretary Kareem Jean Pierre,
- 1:15:38Speaker 1: who was an absolute idiot and who is in the
- 1:15:41Speaker 1: process of having one of the worst book launches in
- 1:15:45Speaker 1: political history. I mean she, I mean she's getting hit
- 1:15:49Speaker 1: from all sides, and I'm sure the book's doing very
- 1:15:52Speaker 1: poorly and her career is going down in flames because
- 1:15:56Speaker 1: she's now's no one in her audience, I mean, and
- 1:16:00Speaker 1: she's basically pissed off everybody. But she was testifying in
- 1:16:05Speaker 1: front of the House Oversight Committee related to this whole
- 1:16:10Speaker 1: issue of Joe Biden's health and the auto pen pardons,
- 1:16:16Speaker 1: and she said something rather extraordinary and that is obviously
- 1:16:21Speaker 1: something that The Death of Journalism podcasts should cover because
- 1:16:24Speaker 1: it relates to just how closely the legacy media and
- 1:16:30Speaker 1: the Democratic Party worked together as a team. And here
- 1:16:36Speaker 1: is Kareem Jean Pierre talking about the issue that we
- 1:16:40Speaker 1: discussed on the podcast at the time, back in the
- 1:16:43Speaker 1: twenty twenty four election, where there were these videos that
- 1:16:47Speaker 1: were going viral online, mostly on X of Joe Biden
- 1:16:52Speaker 1: appearing to be very confused and out of it and
- 1:16:56Speaker 1: wandering around cluelessly, and Karine Jean Pierre started to refer
- 1:17:03Speaker 1: to these videos as cheap fakes. Now, no one had
- 1:17:07Speaker 1: ever heard the phrase cheap fakes before. I guess it's
- 1:17:13Speaker 1: kind of a play on deep fakes and the concept
- 1:17:17Speaker 1: that in this new world of editing and AI and CGI,
- 1:17:23Speaker 1: you can basically fake almost anything you want. And the
- 1:17:26Speaker 1: implication was that these videos of Biden looking clueless are
- 1:17:30Speaker 1: not real and so Kareene Jean Pierre was asked where
- 1:17:35Speaker 1: did that come from the whole concept of cheap fakes,
- 1:17:40Speaker 1: and she acknowledged that they plagiarized cheap fakes from the
- 1:17:47Speaker 1: media because the legacy media was promoting this narrative and
- 1:17:52Speaker 1: they were just taking advantage of it. And here's what
- 1:17:55Speaker 1: she said to the House Oversight Committee.
- 1:18:00Speaker 8: You use the term cheap fakes. Was that choice of
- 1:18:05Speaker 8: words in the moment or was that something that had
- 1:18:06Speaker 8: been prepared ahead of time as a talk it was prepared,
- 1:18:09Speaker 8: Did you or did anyone ever verify if the videos
- 1:18:12Speaker 8: you were talking about were in fact cheap fakes?
- 1:18:17Speaker 9: I believe So.
- 1:18:19Speaker 1: What is a cheap fake?
- 1:18:21Speaker 3: I really don't know.
- 1:18:22Speaker 9: It was something that we did that coin. It was
- 1:18:24Speaker 9: something that the media coined. They did the work, they
- 1:18:27Speaker 9: did the legwork on coming up with that terminology, and
- 1:18:34Speaker 9: so we were just elevating essentially what.
- 1:18:38Speaker 8: The media was saying, what the press was saying.
- 1:18:40Speaker 1: But you know where it is.
- 1:18:42Speaker 9: I mean, it basically is laid out how you defined
- 1:18:47Speaker 9: it with what President Biden was actually doing, and it
- 1:18:52Speaker 9: took away from what he was actually doing or created
- 1:18:55Speaker 9: an illusion of something that just did not exist.
- 1:18:58Speaker 8: We're all clipped circulated on social media or otherwise showing
- 1:19:03Speaker 8: President Biden being confused or freezing at times? Were those
- 1:19:08Speaker 8: all faces?
- 1:19:09Speaker 9: I can't speak to every everything that was.
- 1:19:13Speaker 8: On social media, sure, but there were instances where videos
- 1:19:18Speaker 8: were circulated of President Biden appearing confused or freezing for
- 1:19:22Speaker 8: a moment that were real, correct.
- 1:19:27Speaker 9: Not that I recall this. What we were trying to
- 1:19:31Speaker 9: lift up was something that was very very clear that
- 1:19:35Speaker 9: what they were showing was not actually what was happening.
- 1:19:40Speaker 1: I mean, right, there is a smoking gun when it
- 1:19:42Speaker 1: comes to the relationship, the incestuous relationship between the legacy
- 1:19:48Speaker 1: liberal media and the Democratic Party at the very highest
- 1:19:52Speaker 1: levels on a topic that's extremely important, especially when it
- 1:19:57Speaker 1: comes to issues related to AI and how we don't
- 1:20:01Speaker 1: know what's real and what's fake. I mean that maybe
- 1:20:03Speaker 1: is the most outrageous part of that story, is that
- 1:20:07Speaker 1: what's real and what's fake needs to be treated as
- 1:20:10Speaker 1: sacred ground going forward, and for the Democratic Party and
- 1:20:17Speaker 1: the White House apparatus to engage in an alliance with
- 1:20:23Speaker 1: the legacy news media to try to trick people into
- 1:20:28Speaker 1: believing that videos that were real were actually fake, all
- 1:20:34Speaker 1: because they didn't like how people were understandably interpreting those
- 1:20:40Speaker 1: videos is really outrageous and incredibly dangerous. I mean, we
- 1:20:45Speaker 1: are living in a very very concerning time when it
- 1:20:49Speaker 1: comes to the entire issue of what's real and what's fake,
- 1:20:54Speaker 1: and so you should not, you know, when someone fakes that,
- 1:20:59Speaker 1: when someone lies about that, that should be taken very
- 1:21:03Speaker 1: very seriously. That should be considered a felony crime when
- 1:21:09Speaker 1: it comes to to, you know, political scandal because you
- 1:21:13Speaker 1: you couldn't you should not be allowed to mess with that.
- 1:21:17Speaker 1: Because once we're in a world where we don't know
- 1:21:21Speaker 1: what's real and what's fake, and we have the presidential
- 1:21:24Speaker 1: Press secretary telling us a video is fake when it's
- 1:21:27Speaker 1: actually real, stick a fork in us. That goes way
- 1:21:31Speaker 1: beyond just trying to get out of a political scandal
- 1:21:35Speaker 1: or win an election. That goes to the essence of
- 1:21:39Speaker 1: everything that matters, because if you don't know what's what
- 1:21:43Speaker 1: is real and what's fake, how can you possibly function.
- 1:21:47Speaker 1: So to my opinion, this is a scandal that is
- 1:21:50Speaker 1: not getting nearly enough attention, even in the right wing media,
- 1:21:55Speaker 1: but I needed to play it here on the Death
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