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NFL DFS Week 9 Takedown Breakdown | Winning DraftKings Lineups & Strategy Review · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All systems going clear, the lift up?
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  Speaker 2: What's up?
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  Speaker 1: Everyone? Tyler Tambaline here aka TOTEG and Tambo back for
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  Speaker 1: another edition of the Takedown Breakdown. Here on the ship
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  Speaker 1: a Nation YouTube station, gonna be breaking downs all things.
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  Speaker 1: Week nine g PP review, got the perfect lineup, gonna
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  Speaker 1: look at the Millie Maker winners, gonna look at some portfolios,
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  Speaker 1: and got a big boy booth today. I'm excited for
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  Speaker 1: this one. Our Mannaids is back in the saddle off
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  Speaker 1: his cruise. Got Naids with me and then we got Bellman,
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  Speaker 1: my guy Matt here with us as well. So you
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  Speaker 1: boys in Aids. I'll start with you man, welcome back,
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  Speaker 1: Appreciate you, and we talk about the process so much
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  Speaker 1: as shipping nation. Part of the process is going back
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  Speaker 1: and seeing what happened over the weekend. What can we
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  Speaker 1: glean from that to maybe bring forward to the next
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  Speaker 1: few slates, et cetera. What's going on man, man?
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  Speaker 3: How you doing doing?
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  Speaker 2: Good? Man?
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  Speaker 3: Excited to be back with with you two here in
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  Speaker 3: the booth. That's one of my favorite shows we do here.
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  Speaker 3: Just looking back, and you always talk about too right,
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  Speaker 3: reviewing your process before going in. It's just as important
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  Speaker 3: if not more important to review after the fact, right
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  Speaker 3: once you have kind of the picture of the puzzle
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  Speaker 3: that you're trying to create right in front of you,
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  Speaker 3: and kind of reverse engineer how the thought process could
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  Speaker 3: have went into. Obviously we don't know the direct thought
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  Speaker 3: process right that goes into these lineups and optimizer sets
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  Speaker 3: right when these people are running their self. But how
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  Speaker 3: can we kind of reverse engineer that out into a
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  Speaker 3: smaller scale to our portfolio, to our members' portfolios. Watching
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  Speaker 3: the show, so looking forward to to breaking it down
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  Speaker 3: crazy crazy day. Yesterday Hoop said it was high scoring.
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  Speaker 3: Who runs better than Hoop? Nobody? He nailed it again,
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  Speaker 3: But looking forward to breaking it all down.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's when we get there. There was like
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  Speaker 1: amost two hundred and sixty five points or something like
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  Speaker 1: that for twenty dollars million maker winner. Ess say, Matt,
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  Speaker 1: what's going on man? Back in the booth you were
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  Speaker 1: filling in for Naid's. We said, this makes sense, let's
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  Speaker 1: just get three people in here. I love what Nate
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  Speaker 1: just said is you don't always know what other people
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  Speaker 1: are thinking. Where I originally sort of got connected with
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  Speaker 1: mattam Medham was in the DFS Mastermind Project where we
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  Speaker 1: are going behind the scenes and behind the mind and
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  Speaker 1: starting to learn what others are doing. We have that
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  Speaker 1: over a ship a nation. You could check it out.
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  Speaker 1: But just to note, you know, you and I and
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  Speaker 1: Naid's obviously now all the three of us together are
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  Speaker 1: able to give at least our thoughts on how we
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  Speaker 1: see things. And it is important because people say, oh,
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  Speaker 1: you've already got the puzzle. Of course it's easy now
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  Speaker 1: you know the answers, but it's what what did others
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  Speaker 1: do with the same puzzle pieces? And how, like Nate said,
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  Speaker 1: can we reverse engineer that to be able to use
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  Speaker 1: that moving forward? What's going on? Man, how was your
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  Speaker 1: weekend so far?
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  Speaker 2: Weekend was good? Man, excited for Monday and night football.
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  Speaker 2: The night got a nice MBA slate Romo Donza with
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  Speaker 2: the killer zero in a game with one hundred plus points,
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  Speaker 2: it seems. So that was a shocker, you know, or
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  Speaker 2: I know at least how much I love being on
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  Speaker 2: this show. Oftentimes, you know, my weekend in DFS was
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  Speaker 2: just okay, nothing great. Oftentimes when you're not doing great
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  Speaker 2: in DFS shows or a struggle, but even after a
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  Speaker 2: non great weekend, at DFS. I couldn't wait to do
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  Speaker 2: this show with you guys. So excited to talk over
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  Speaker 2: the slate. I think we can take some notes and
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  Speaker 2: learn some stuff. Yeah, we already have the pieces to
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  Speaker 2: the puzzle, but that just makes it easier to talk
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  Speaker 2: it over.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can also go back and see all
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  Speaker 1: others built it. That's what I love. It's like, that's
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  Speaker 1: what you pick up the same people winning, the consistency
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  Speaker 1: of it. We're all trying to do the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody wants to achieve that highest level, whatever that is
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  Speaker 1: for you, whatever your goals are. Of course, winning the
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  Speaker 1: most money possible is a key one, but there's stepping
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  Speaker 1: stones to get there if you're turning seventy five dollars
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  Speaker 1: into eight thousand plus. Had a nice A member hit
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  Speaker 1: me up in a DM yesterday. I just posted on
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  Speaker 1: our ship a nation and he was saying, I love
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  Speaker 1: the new Leverage Lane show. Finally had a good week.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, didn't even win the Mini Max, but it
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  Speaker 1: was what is it, seventy five dollars into eight thousand
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  Speaker 1: dollars plus, Like talk about ROI that is phenomenal. However,
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  Speaker 1: you look at well, somebody say Oh, but I'd like
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  Speaker 1: to win one hundred k Well, I mean that's the
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  Speaker 1: old I'd like to win a million. We'd like to
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  Speaker 1: win everything, but it's freaking hard to win. Yeah, those
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  Speaker 1: are so hard to win when you can turn eight
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  Speaker 1: thousand into that and you know you don't need to
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  Speaker 1: do this. Man, we really appreciate you, though. Kendal says,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for being a huge part of my process. Got there,
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  Speaker 1: there he is there, there's Kendall, my man. I was
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  Speaker 1: just bringing it up. That's so I didn't see the
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  Speaker 1: comment doesn't pop up right away, but the little fifty bucks,
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  Speaker 1: like the setup of it does the amount that pops up.
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  Speaker 1: So again, thank you for the fifty dollars Kendle. You
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  Speaker 1: did not have to do that. Really just love seeing
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  Speaker 1: the success.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 1: That's awesome, third, sixth, and seventh. Talk about a process,
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  Speaker 1: you know, tighter player pool goes into that. How you
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  Speaker 1: build all of that? Man, really appreciate you any Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there was thanks for the show. We're already going there,
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  Speaker 1: so congrats to you.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 1: That's amazing. That's what we love to see. So that's
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  Speaker 1: that's some awesome stuff. What were Matt, I'll stay with you.
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  Speaker 1: Just some of your big takeaways on the slate, you
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  Speaker 1: did mention Rome odoonsay. You always have to wonder when
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  Speaker 1: a guy has two o's in his name. Remember those
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  Speaker 1: can convert to zeros on the social media sites and
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  Speaker 1: in the marketing stuff. So that's always a the worst,
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  Speaker 1: like you get a Cooper or something like that. But
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  Speaker 1: with rom Odunsay, crazy they put up that many points
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  Speaker 1: and wasn't a part of it at all.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was pretty wild. I played a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: kleb had Roman and all my Bengal stacks. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: play t Higgins after came out with the Flacco shoulder stuff. Thought, really,
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  Speaker 2: the only guy from that passing game I wanted was Chase.
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  Speaker 2: Turns out Higgins was the guy you needed for me.
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  Speaker 2: My biggest takeaway was going right there the Bengals. This
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  Speaker 2: is a team that we're gonna want to have pieces
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  Speaker 2: of and pick on every single week. You look at
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  Speaker 2: the past two weeks the Jets and now the Bears.
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  Speaker 2: Both games stacks basically have been optimal on main slates. Disappointing.
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  Speaker 2: We don't have the Bengals on this upcoming Sunday slate.
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  Speaker 2: I think they're on the bye, but yeah, man, like
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  Speaker 2: they they're reminiscent of last year's Bengals, a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of the Cowboys this year, but even more extreme, like
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  Speaker 2: especially with Flack on now. Their offense is not great
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  Speaker 2: but really good, and their defense is trash. So this
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  Speaker 2: is a team I think we're gonna want pieces of
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  Speaker 2: and against every slate they're on.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The other thing too, is you know just how condensed
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  Speaker 1: it is. And also, you know, that's what we're always
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  Speaker 1: talking about on here. When people a trying to figure out, like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I think Pittsburgh's gonna show up today and beat the Colts,
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  Speaker 1: which they did, it's like that's gonna happen, and it's
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  Speaker 1: the setup of Okay, well I know what I'm gonna do.
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  Speaker 1: Then I'm gonna get involved in that game. But then
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  Speaker 1: people look at it like, wait a minute, it's Aaron
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  Speaker 1: Rodgers with all these dudes, I could just pick DK Metcalf,
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  Speaker 1: But what if it's Friar Mooth, what if it's Roman Wilson,
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  Speaker 1: what if it's John new Smith, Darnell Washington. There's literally
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  Speaker 1: three tight ends that could be let alone. You got
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  Speaker 1: your receivers, your running backs, all that stuff. So that's
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  Speaker 1: definitely a pinpointed piece there needs what was your thoughts
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  Speaker 1: on the Week nine slate sort of grand scheme overview
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  Speaker 1: before we hop in and start reviewing it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. The biggest thing too that I take away is
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  Speaker 3: number one, the Bengals just target them always because they
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  Speaker 3: finally have a capable quarterback, right even in his old age,
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  Speaker 3: to be able to chuck the ball. And they have
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  Speaker 3: really good offensive weapons like Matt talked about, right, So
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  Speaker 3: that's naturally a game environment, right, It's not just a
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  Speaker 3: bad defense, it's also an offense that can push the
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  Speaker 3: game environments. Dallas is another one that comes to mind, right,
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  Speaker 3: So between Dallas and the Bengals, I think if you
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  Speaker 3: just stacked against them the rest of the year, probably
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  Speaker 3: more time than not, you're gonna be pretty profitable. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: you got to get all the pieces right. But going
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  Speaker 3: into yesterday, another takeaway too is everybody so it myself included, right,
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure many of us fell into this trap of Okay,
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  Speaker 3: Caleb looked amazing on paper, but how can I play
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  Speaker 3: Caleb and not play Rome? Right, So everybody was tied
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  Speaker 3: to Rome, and that just goes to show you that
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  Speaker 3: you kind of got to open the box up a
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  Speaker 3: little bit. Everybody knows when they're going to Caleb, Rome's
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  Speaker 3: the best stacking partner. But you're trying to beat three
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  Speaker 3: hundred thousand people in a contest like the Mani Max
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  Speaker 3: Shelvi It's Kendo. That's probably the hardest tournament on the
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  Speaker 3: site to win because there's three hundred and seventy thousand
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  Speaker 3: entrants in that contest. There. When you're trying to beat
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  Speaker 3: a field like these GPPs, even the Million Maker, right,
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  Speaker 3: when you're trying to beat one hundred and forty some
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  Speaker 3: thousand people. I mean, everybody knows Rome is the number
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  Speaker 3: one stacking partner, right, So how can you go within
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  Speaker 3: these expensive or within these target game environments like the
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  Speaker 3: Stone outlines and like all the shows and content across
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  Speaker 3: the industry, I'm sure talked about this game environment due
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  Speaker 3: to that Bengals defense. How can you play that differently
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  Speaker 3: without getting off the wall and a diamond in the
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  Speaker 3: rough like a wide receiver four right, that's his ceiling
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  Speaker 3: seems like fifteen points, right, you do it differently. So
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  Speaker 3: that's one of the takeaways for me is just trying
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  Speaker 3: to think outside the box, right, And yeah, Rome is
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  Speaker 3: the best stacking partner. But everybody knows that. What if
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  Speaker 3: Rome doesn't have a good game, Well, guess what now,
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  Speaker 3: you just lapped all of the field in that expense
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  Speaker 3: or in that target game environment that everybody is playing,
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  Speaker 3: and you played it differently.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't have the final scores in front
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  Speaker 1: of me for like Yoshi vas versus Zakias, but just
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  Speaker 1: noting it. And if you're not going to Rome in
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  Speaker 1: this spot, guess why I think the stone is so powerful.
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  Speaker 1: I was trying to show this office is it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: even have everything in there. Like we also got the
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  Speaker 1: official news on Trey Henderson at the Coast to the
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  Speaker 1: lock where it's like, if he's not even gonna have
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  Speaker 1: that guy in there for going against him, we already
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  Speaker 1: had an F rush defense and a D plus pass defense.
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  Speaker 1: You already have Caleb showing at a high optimal number.
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  Speaker 1: You can easily play them with the none guy, as
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  Speaker 1: we're going to see people did. I hated that because
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  Speaker 1: the fact that Comet was in I kind of like
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  Speaker 1: g Lovelin. You can always still go there, but it's
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  Speaker 1: not like he was popping. So if you that, congrats
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  Speaker 1: to you. But it's not like in a condescending way.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like that's awesome. I just I didn't make
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  Speaker 1: it to my portfolio, but just noting it needs and
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  Speaker 1: you and I have done this a ton for the
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  Speaker 1: last couple of years now with the Stone. If you
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  Speaker 1: weren't going to Rome, the Stone would tell you where
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  Speaker 1: to go. Like it doesn't mean it fully worked out,
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  Speaker 1: but I mean DJ Moore didn't have a bad game
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  Speaker 1: and Olamedia this spot here with nine point seven, even
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  Speaker 1: with the ownership at thirty three, I'd still rather have
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  Speaker 1: almost ten percent to be optimal tied to this whole stack,
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  Speaker 1: in this matchup spot with everything else going for it.
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  Speaker 1: I talked about this team total over and over again yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: like them having almost a twenty seven and a half
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  Speaker 1: point team total. Twenty eight point team total is so
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  Speaker 1: unique that you don't see it. You have to take
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  Speaker 1: that into consideration. And then it would have got you
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  Speaker 1: to one of Jamar Chase most likely or Higgins and
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  Speaker 1: Jamar got there with the bonus late a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: but not what you fully needed. It was Higgins who
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  Speaker 1: you wanted to have, but still you would have at
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  Speaker 1: least landed on this starting point as a way to
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  Speaker 1: get different there. So Matt, I'll let you hop in
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  Speaker 1: there if you have any quick thoughts on this one,
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  Speaker 1: because I know you're already talking about it earlier.
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  Speaker 2: But anything else, Dad, Yeah, I got two quick thoughts
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  Speaker 2: based on what both you guys said. So first off, Cambo,
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  Speaker 2: based on what you said the thing about DJ Moore
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  Speaker 2: and Zakias. Both those guys were good. They weren't like
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  Speaker 2: brock Bauers good. But if you stacked Caleb with those
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  Speaker 2: guys and without Rome, their scores were even better than
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  Speaker 2: it seems because the communicative ownership of teams with Caleb,
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  Speaker 2: most of them had Rome. So if you didn't have
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  Speaker 2: Rome and you had one or both of those other guys,
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  Speaker 2: you had a huge lag up. Second all, just to
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  Speaker 2: touch on what Nate said, I definitely fell fell into
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  Speaker 2: that trap. I wasn't handbuilding a Caleb line without playing
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  Speaker 2: Rome in it. It just didn't seem like something I
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  Speaker 2: wanted to do. In smaller field tournaments. My best lineups
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  Speaker 2: in the twenty dollars Millie were Caleb stacks without Rome.
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  Speaker 2: So sometimes when you're seeing Sim's push out that stuff,
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  Speaker 2: trust it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll say, you know, someone just mentioned here I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna go back to back here, but someone said, Andrew said,
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  Speaker 1: Saber Scorer gave me Caleb Manungui and Zakiah Stack, which
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  Speaker 1: happened to work out quite well. Coach tav this is
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  Speaker 1: what I was trying to get. I knew it was
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  Speaker 1: very close, and that's why I wanted to bring this up.
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  Speaker 1: It's not even about the point too. It's not about
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  Speaker 1: the if you didn't have the hundred bucks to get
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  Speaker 1: to Yoshi vas it's the point of the tools and
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  Speaker 1: the stone and everything breaking it down. If you were
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  Speaker 1: interested in this, the way to do it was like
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  Speaker 1: Andrew just talked about, is like, even with this ownership
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  Speaker 1: and this ownership, how many people are playing Williams manung
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  Speaker 1: Guy Zakias And maybe it's it forces you to chase
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  Speaker 1: and you still don't get Higgins. But it's not like
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  Speaker 1: there wasn't other running backs and guys that got there
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  Speaker 1: in these spots, or other receivers that you would have
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  Speaker 1: plugged in instead. So there was definitely ways to still
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  Speaker 1: get there with that as your starting point. But when
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  Speaker 1: Yoshi gets there in this bay, yead since you can
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  Speaker 1: just laugh and move on. But the point more so
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  Speaker 1: being if you weren't on Rome and you'll see it.
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  Speaker 1: There was definite ways to go differently, but we kept
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  Speaker 1: talking about using Manung Guy and I think, honestly, Yester,
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  Speaker 1: I know it didn't make it at the top of
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  Speaker 1: the millies, but even the quad stacks of Caleb, Manung Guy, more,
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  Speaker 1: Zakias or Zakias Loveland whatever. Again, you worn't getting to
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  Speaker 1: a lot of those, but those quad stacks worked. And
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  Speaker 1: if you overlooked, as some said, like Gie Mercier Hare says,
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  Speaker 1: my mistake was not having Caleb. If you only have
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  Speaker 1: one lineup, maybe I get it, But if you had
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  Speaker 1: any type of portfolio yesterday and you overlooked it, you
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  Speaker 1: need to have something that can tell you a full story.
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  Speaker 1: It was literally one of the best matchups on paper.
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  Speaker 1: There was defensive injuries to the Bengals, there was a
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  Speaker 1: huge team total you don't often see, and if you
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  Speaker 1: had the tools that can show you this stuff, you
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  Speaker 1: would be able to see. This should have definitely been
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  Speaker 1: in the mix within your portfolio. So I think that's
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  Speaker 1: important to remember. Anything else needs you want to add
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  Speaker 1: on this. If not, I'm going to get to the
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  Speaker 1: perfect lineup. We'll come back and forth throughout.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure we're going to talk about it more,
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  Speaker 3: but I just looked more into it. Obviously, this is
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  Speaker 3: a it's important to spend some time on it because
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  Speaker 3: obviously all the winning lineups are going to revolve around
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  Speaker 3: Caleb in this game. So how people were stacking Caleb yesterday?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Everybody knew they want to Chase? What's the number one
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  Speaker 3: stacking partner with Rome? So Rome and Chase is fifteen
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  Speaker 3: grand combined those two plus Caleb throwing that salary, right,
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  Speaker 3: DJ moore zykis t Higgins is fourteen to four six
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  Speaker 3: hundred dollars deeper the exact same game leverages everything within
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  Speaker 3: the game, and you're not going off the board, right,
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  Speaker 3: Zikias is going to get an increased role. His projection
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  Speaker 3: was good, right, so throw it? Yeah, no, Luther Burden.
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  Speaker 3: So you're saving six hundred dollars in a fraction of
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  Speaker 3: the ownership without getting crazy, right. So just looking through
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  Speaker 3: little things like that, and you're using up all three
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  Speaker 3: wide receiver spots within the same game environment when you
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  Speaker 3: know people want to go three running backs this week, right,
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  Speaker 3: So now you have to make a choice. Are you
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  Speaker 3: going to use another wide receiver? Right?
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  Speaker 2: Uh?
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  Speaker 3: Are you going to go to a double tight end
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  Speaker 3: right in the flex? So didn't want to call that up.
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  Speaker 3: Looking at the perfect lineup here. A lot of these
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  Speaker 3: players are going to show up everywhere. Obviously, the Rico
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  Speaker 3: Daludo stuff, you could have got to him, but really
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: throw him out, throwing manung guy there and you leave
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: more money on the table and you're still probably dog
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: walking every field that you play. It's just good plays
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: in general, right, the t Higgins leverage off of the
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: chase within the same game environment. The thing I want
• 13:59
  Speaker 3: to talk about is how you could get to something
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: like this. Right, Drake London, I want to talk about him.
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: He's two hundred dollars cheaper than Roma Dunza, right, not
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: results oriented, but everybody Drake London has been chalk since
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: the start of the season. This is the first week
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: he hasn't been chalk. You look at the stone A.
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: I think it was an a rush defense for New England.
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: So you can't run on them, right. Obviously you can
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: Bejon's involved in the passing game, but their pass defense
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: is a d How are they going to score points
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: in a forty five and a half point total as
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: a five and a half point underdog on the road
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: in New England, They're probably going to throw to their
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: number one wide receiver who's finally back in that offense
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: with PENI with Pennex. So little things like that, jumping
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: on these plays that are still good plays that everybody
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: wanted for weeks weeks before and now due to the
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: nature of one game environment on the slate, the Bengals
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: and Chicago people can't click that name over a guy
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: like Roma Dunze, So I didn't want to call it that.
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: Other than that brock Bauers, I mean five K people
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: were talking about If Brott Byrals was five K week one,
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: he would have been sixty percent owned, right. He came
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: in at like seventeen percent owned in a week where
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: people were playing double tight ends. So things like that.
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: Outside of that, I mean, overall, really good, really good
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: plays and throw the Rico Dallas stuff out. You could
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: have plugged in any of these other running backs in
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: that in that mid tier range and then just.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: Fine, yeah, just to you know, we always do this.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: But funny enough, going back to the stack rankings too,
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: didn't you have to go to the top ten this week? Nis?
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: It was?
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: It was right here, you know, here's Caleb. It's actually
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: with Zakias and Moore, no Rome. You could even put
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: Jamar Chase instead of Higgins, but he's in there. You
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: get brock Bauers, you pick up whatever you want from
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: the other spots. If you're not playing Mac Jones or
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: any of these guys, maybe you play CMC, who fits
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: the builds. You can obviously mix Manung Guy in with that.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: Like the lineup almost builds itself if you just focus
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: on this. But when I see this, my takeaways are
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: always like what games are involved, and if Cincy in
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: Chicago is up here like it is, if the other stuff,
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: I mean that that's where your starting point sort of becomes.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: That the chats talk a little bit about some of
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: this stuff. So first of all, just so you guys
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: know when we get there shortly, the twenty dollars million
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: Maker was one with almost a I think it was
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: an eight point win, and even then it was two
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: sixty four point seven. This is a forty nine to
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: one line. You can move some things around, Bowers up
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: into here, change somebody else, and lose twenty and still
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: be at two eighty seven instead of three oh seven.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: I'm just giving like random, but a three oh seven.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: This is like a mass score because it's it's obviously
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: the optimal. You're putting the best that you can put together.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: But just of noting when people are like, oh, you
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: didn't technically need this, you didn't need that whatever, Yeah,
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: you didn't, but it's just we're looking at it from
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: this perspective. We'll see what people had that won. But
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: what you did need is this. This is the optimal lineup.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: Just nobody hits that.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: But you would want to have this if you if
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: you needed anything, you would need this. You just didn't
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: need this to win all the tournaments yesterday, which is
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: always the focus. So Matt, I'll kick it over to you.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: You know, if you kick out Doubtle, you kick out
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Loveland and Titans D and even put in like Manungui,
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: you put in a you know whatever X flex you
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: want to put in and move Bowers up and then
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: pick like a more popular D, you'll win the Millie Maker.
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: Like.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: That's the facts. You've got so much room to work
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: with here that it is just not even close. So I'm
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: just curious your thoughts on what you're seeing here. I
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: think this is a definite optimal that still sort of
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: fits the slate for places you might have want you
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: might have wanted to be on with, like Christian McCaffrey.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: If you're not on Jonathan Taylor, maybe you're on Pittman.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: If you want a piece of that Jacksonville game with
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: the Raiders, it's Brock Bowers's back. So what's your thoughts,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: mattal kick it over to you.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: So definitely fits the slate. My first takeaway is kind
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: of what we talked about last week, or I was
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: harping on that on any given slate, even on a
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: ten game slate, not a twelve or thirteen games slate,
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: there's gonna be a lot of really really good plays.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: So this lineup looks like it fits the slate. I
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: think that were and when I say were, I mean
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: basically everyone in the DFS community these days is so
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: used to stacking. That's seeing the Kleb with just Lovelin
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: and Just Higgins seems a little bit odd. But again,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: that goes kind of with what needs was talking about,
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: how there were other really really good plays on the
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: slate that just weren't getting love. Drake London is one
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: of them. Obviously, Brock Bauers you could replace Dowdell with Manungai,
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: but even Dowdell himself like there was reason to like
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: him in big tournaments. I heard him mentioned a little
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: bit across the industry, but not enough, especially with the
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: coach speak that Hubbard was gonna be phased out a
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: little bit. Dowdell has been really really good and it
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: wasn't a good play on paper. Thirteen and a half
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: point dogs on the road. You expect Green Bay to
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: kind of dominate that game, but he came in so
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: low owned that I think it was an interesting play,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: if nothing else in tournament. So again, this lineup to
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: me looks like a bunch of just really good individual
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: plays piece together. You've got the Kleb Lovelyn Higgins mini stack,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: but after that, just really good individual plays that happened
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: to work out.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll see when we get to the Million Maker.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: There's some just crazy lineups up there that you know,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: seemed to make a ton of sense and we get there.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: I don't have too much else to add. I just
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: think it's interesting. Like we said, with Drake Glenden coming back,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: everyone wants something doesn't want him when they get the
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: full full Monty the five and a half point underdogs,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: like it makes sense. It's a good pass defense spot
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: for them to be able to go up against. And
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: so I think that if you're not playing Jonathan Taylor
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: landing on Pittman, you know. The Jacksonville game was definitely
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: an interesting one, and Bowers came in way under what
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: people thought he was gonna be, so he was a
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: smash spot there and then Higgins, but the more balanced
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: A couple things that stood up to me. And we
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: mentioned all this stuff last week between the shows and
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Leverage Lane and all the different things that we do
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: was really roster construction. You could see something like two
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: tight end be able to get there in this case.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: People probably weren't on Loveland, but there was other opportunities,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: but certainly Bowers being one big one. These prices are,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: you know, way less than your wide receiver ones on
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: all these other teams, and they can put up forty
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: six is not all of them did? And Craft got
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: injured and Warren didn't have a game and all this stuff.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: But it felt like I teased earlier, like the clocks
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: went back an hour for those that do have daylight savings.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: I was aving a little party at my sister. So
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: she does every year an annual NFL like it's usually Christmas,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: but we were doing in November this year anyway, it
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: was we said that the clocks move back a week.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: It started, the slate started like it was National tight
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: end week, and so we were right back to it
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: and you could see that. But really the thing that
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: stood out is the more balanced built five K five K,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: five K sixty four five K, five K. These you're
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: gonna have some mixes the eighty eight, the thirty three,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: but that's at like a couple odds, that's at a
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: onesie a onesie, and you know the running back that's
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: kind of the highest price on the slate, I think,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: outside of Jonathan Taylor, which you weren't on in this lineup.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: So just noting that the balance build is kind of
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: what came through. But let's kick it over. Let's look
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: at the twenty dollars million maker and I Keyser twenty
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: one was the million dollar winner to sixty four point
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: seven over two fifty seven point six, and it was
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: a Caleb williams Olemedes, Akias Manung guy with Jamar Chase
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: on the run back. No Higgins. It had McCaffrey, Warren,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: it had Drake London, Brock Bauers, of course, and then
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: it landed on the Tennessee defense. So Naid's I'll kick
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: it to you first man. This is a Caleb triple stack,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: a Jamar Chase runback, sort of filled it in with
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: the value like other good plays across the board, and
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: then landed on a defense that not many got to
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: this week, which was the cheaper Tennessee defense. But going
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: up against the Chargers where you know, it wasn't like
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: there was a ton of chalk there or anything, but
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: it was just it's the cheap D that got there
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: this week.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah. No, The thing I'll say about that is that
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: the opposite side of the Chargers D who everybody wanted
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: to play right and pair up with Camani Vidal. How
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: many times have we seen that? It feels like almost
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: every week we review this stuff, Tambell, I've been doing
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: this for two years with you now I feel like
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: more times than not, anything we come is the opposite
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: defense of the chalk defense. Everybody wants to play right.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Defense is such a variable position. Everybody thinks they know
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: what they know and they don't right. That bears game
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: opened up with a pick six to the house, right,
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: or or fumble recovery to the house. Just little things
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: like that, that's all it takes. And at twenty three
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: hundred on the opposite side, right, you could definitely get there.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Thing I want to talk about is Jalen Warren. Right,
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: he didn't have a good game, but he was projected
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: to be one of the highest own running backs on
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: the slate, and then we got all that news. Not
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: all of them, right. You can at max play three
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: running backs in the lineup, so not everybody can be
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: forty percent owned.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: You knew McCaffrey was going to keep his ownership at
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: the top because people weren't really spinning up to Jonathan Taylor.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: They would much rather just play a thousand dollars cheaper
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: for McCaffrey when people were playing Danny Dimes in those
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: stacks with Tyler Warren and Pittman and all these other guys. Right,
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: So Jalen Warren getting steamed and held in check, you
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: knew you kind of got to figure that out looking
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: at the slate and looking at ownership and running teams,
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: and you can kind of understand who's going to get
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: held in check who's not the most comfortable run back
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: in that game environment was DK metcalf right. So more
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: people are willing to click DK metcalf than Jalen Warren.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: When you got Munn guy, you got McCaffrey, you got
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: Trevon Henderson, you got all of these guys in the
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: running back position. Not everybody can play play Gibbs.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Literally the only options that people wanted to play, yeah.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Many, And when people were playing a Steeler, they were
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: playing DK metcalf right. So just keeping things like that
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: in your mind. When Jalen Warren, yeah he I mean
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: he didn't really get there, but he could have absolutely
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: new the slate like you could always could, right, and
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: eight percent I think he was projected to be like
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: twenty five thirty percent, right, So that's one of those
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: moonwalk plays. We've seen that with Jonathan Taylor early on
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: in the year. So just looking through little things like that,
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: how could you get to a roster construction like this?
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: That's where using an optimizer to your friend, right, even
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: if you're not playing one hundred and fifty lineups, running
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: as many lineups as you can run, look at the
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: different constructions, right, I know you run the optimizer tons
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: of times. I run it probably fifty sixty times just
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: to look at the different team combinations that are coming up,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: and then how can I put that back into my
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: process to build more competitive lineups hopefully that can get there.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Outside of that, I mean we pretty much hit on
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: this exact lineup. There are a lot of pieces right
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: from the optimal give or take right, a couple of
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: the lovelin stuff, but overall, I think thinking outside the
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: box and stacking Kale with two cheap stack partners Zakias
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: in my Nungui and just saying that hey, Caleb can
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: spread it out, Rome, Dj Moore, whoever else. Two tight
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: ends right which we knew that tight end's going in.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: I know you, You and Alex talked about it on Saturday.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: I mean Cincinnati, there are two worst positions that are
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: running back and tight end. It's just I know you
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: wanted to go in on the tight end, but then
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: the comment news kind of took you off. It is
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: still I think they're averaging six points more than their
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: medium projection ten points more from their running back possession
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: against Cincinnati, and nobody stacking Cale Williams with Zakias and
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Manunguy and then running back on the other side would chase.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: But overall, really good play opposite defense of the chalk
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: defense is the biggest thing I take away from this.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and just a couple of notes and I'll kick
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: it to you, Matt One. I want to give Alex
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: props on this. I know he really monitors the ownership
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: he does and looking at it like Warren ended up.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: He said, Warren's gonna moon walk. It just can't happen
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: with the mnung guy. And you start with macnunguy and
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: McCaffrey and just walk it back from there. Well, when
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: mcnung guy gets to fifty five percent, fifty four point
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: seven in the millie, sorry excuse me, it ends up
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: being that this number has to come back. Now, people
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: that have the stone got to read this and think
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: about these things when you're looking at the stone. Because
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: now if he somehow again, I would never have expected eight.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I would have thought like ten to twelve, and so
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: like whatever. It's a few points here and there, but
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: if you put an eight here, the leverage is through
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: the roof that you're getting on this spot. For a
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Jalen Warren versus the DK Metcalf number is not going
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: to moon walk back that much. So you're like, Okay,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: that's a spot that I could get leverage on. The
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: stack ranking is not that great. They don't they have
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: a better opportunity against the past defense. But you know
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: this guy could catch passes as well. Things like that.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: The other note was the Titans D for the cheap d's.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: I went back and looked at the stone. It's still out.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Members can go check it out too. It's not like
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: it's huge, but it had a lot more. It had
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: a lot higher optimal percentage and a higher leverage. And
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: that was at two point three and I'm coming at
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: one point eight or something. So if you were landing
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: on a cheap defense, there was a possibility you could
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: have landed there if you were checking it all out
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: and putting it together for your own player pool. Matt,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I'll kick this lineup back to you. Let me go
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: away from the perfect back to this anything you want
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: to add on this one. I'm gonna check out a
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: few more up top here, though, but I'll let you
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: go ahead.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, real quick. Touching on what Nate said, I think
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: he's spot on with the defense opposite the chalk defense,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: because everyone thinks they know, but we really don't know. NFL.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: The NFL is such a week to week entity that,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: you know, using the leverage like that, especially when you're
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: saving so much salary, makes a ton of sense. The
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: biggest takeaway from me from this lineup, and it kind
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: of goes into what I was talking about earlier with
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: the perfect lineup. It's rare we see this oftentimes. We
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: see must plays, guys you had to have, and we
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: had a couple of those yesterday. Manung guy obviously was
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Chalky and really did really well, and Bowers was the
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: other guy you needed. But this was a slate where
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: you had to not have Rome. The ownership of teams
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: that had Caleb. You know, most of those teams had Rome,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: and because you needed Caleb, you got such a big
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: leg up on the field by playing Caleb without Rome.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: I'd love to see that broken down, like the ownership
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: of just Caleb teams and the ownership of Caleb teams
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: with Rome, because I would venture to say that the
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: majority of Caleb teams, even in the twenty dollars MILLI,
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: had Rome. So it was one of those weird slates
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: where you had such a big lag up by not
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: playing Rome.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Trying to see if I can track it here real
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: quick while we're live, gonna pull that up. I want
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: to pull up one of the comments in the chat too.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: I'll talk about it while I'm doing this. Is just
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: you know, American Wolf says, I think we all overthink
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: the runback. We really do not need runbacks, just need
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: to play teams where teams will push if playing Thosetuds
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: nailed the point, because one thing I'll say is it's
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: a runback can help it make it all work, and
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: sometimes you know what it is and feel good about it.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: But if you're not going to use a run back,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: as the contest sims and things like that have got
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: better and better and continue to show us, if you're
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: not going to use that, then I don't think it's
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: a bad idea. It's more of knowing can the other
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: teams still push them, which is your second point that
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: I love, because it's like, if they can't do that,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: then the other stack may not have a way to
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: get there. But if you think the other team can
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: push them, that's that's where it makes a ton of sense.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: And that's where I think people got to do a
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: better job of just recognizing that. So let me pull
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: this up. If I go Rome and Caleb, I have
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: it here. I'll pull it up live on the show.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: It's the cool thing. It's called stack seeker, and so
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: you'll see it's right here. Eight and ten lineups in
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: the twenty dollars million maker yesterday, So five point seven
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: six percent had Caleb and Rome. I checked him off.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I think he's, uh, where's he at on here? What
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: am I sorting? By?
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Man?
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: Sorry?
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Doing this live?
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Right here?
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Rome is checked on anyway, you can see right here
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: players in stack those two. So what did you want
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: me to check it against?
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: So check it against just Caleb lineups without Rome.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: So if I just click onto Kleb, I think you
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: have to put two people though, So like, so you
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: want to check them with versus DJ Moore for example?
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, yeah, how much was it? But that won't
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: but that this will also include lineups that had Rome.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Is the problem, like, cause some lineups might DJ Moore
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: and Rome.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Well that's right here, I think right now it's saying
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: of the thirty five ninety five seventy five also had Manungui,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: but it's it's two point three percent without Rome, and
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: even within this, only twelve hundred had Rome and DJ right.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: So you see how it's working. So if I go
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: to Manunguy, let's just see Caleb with Manungui, because a
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: lot of people where is he at forty six right,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: so five point four to two percent, but four six
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: hundred and eighty seven, so fifty six percent of those
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: still went with Rome right, versus only twenty one percent
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: went with DJ Moore. And then there's the over stacks.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: But anyway, just point point being to show your point.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: You could sort of see how these stacks come together.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: It was very clear the Caleb lineups were heavily favored
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: towards towards Rome right. So anything else you want to
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: see with this, Matt.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: No, I think that was a nice way to break
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: it down. Pretty easy to see you with the numbers.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Just going back to the top. Then I want to
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: a couple of these others, like this was where Meyers
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: eight ninety four. This is a great line. I mean,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: this is just look at this, it's Caleb, DJ Moore, Zakias,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Manung Guy. There's no run back. But then you just
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: plug in good options. You've got San Francisco, you got
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Williams off a by You've got Brock Bauers and Drake
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: London and then you got Chargers defense, which didn't work out.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: You end up needing the opposite side, but just noting it, like,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: that's a quad stack that looks pretty good. I think
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: it was this one off free. This is our specialty,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Matt right here. When Nays was away, we were talking
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: about these, and look at this one again. Didn't work
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: in the full million maker, but this two fifty just
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: dominates everywhere else. If you put a lineup like this
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: together and look at it, Flacco, Chase Brown, Jamar, Chase Higgins, Manung,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Guy Moore, Loveland, gimme McCaffrey and the opposite defense from
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: the one A lot of people are on there. It's like,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: just you'll plug that lineup together. You need that game
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: to go off, you need McCaffrey to do his job,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: and you need a random defense to who knows, like
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: all defenses could score eight to ten some week or
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: you know one outlier that nobody has, so it doesn't
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: really matter as much in this case though, that's a
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: pretty good lineup that just gets put together that way.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: If we flip over to the five point fifty five
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: million maker. I know Udicao won that yesterday. And you
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: know every of the all your classics ofthing got mucklovin
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: fantas sin, you got bk ryder like just a bunch
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: of the who's who up at the top there. But
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: here's Judikao's winning lineup neids and it was point zero eight.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Gotta sweat the stack correction over his old friend Macklove
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: and battling plenty over the years, those two. And you
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: see here Caleb Manung Guy, DJ Moore, Loveland. So it
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: was what we talked about. You're gonna need these these quads.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: You put those together, you end up on McCaffrey, Puka Nakua,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Romeo Dobbs, double tight end and Detroit d. I will
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: say that's the leverage lane that I called out, was
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: the four man stack with the double tight end. Happy
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: to see at least get the job done somewhere. But
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: your thoughts on this one, aids, it's a pretty solid lineup.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Your boy Romeo Dobbs in the mix too, Packers and
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: all the Homers like dads. We love it.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, No, Romeo Dobbs, I mean that wide receiver ones
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: against Carolina is number one matchup on the board for anyone,
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: and I mean say what you want about Green Bay,
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Romeo Dobbs has been the only consistent outside of obviously
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: Tucker Kraft for Rest and Peace, Tucker Craft tor An
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: acl likely so that sucks, But this build really really good.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: Most people that are playing Detroit Defense, I would likely
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: say they were probably pairing up Jamiir Gibbs. So doing
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: that differently I think is a way to get different there. Obviously,
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: if you played Jamiir Gibbs, you were not at the
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: top of the leader boards. You were at the probably
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: towards the bottom and trying to trying to catch on
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: to a min cash there that Pook and Dakua play.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: That's another one that you knew just couldn't get played
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: because people in that range were clicking Jamar Chase, especially
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: in a game environment or a lineup stack with Caleb Williams. Right,
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: they were in that price range if you had eighty
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: four hundred eighty five hundred left, they were clicking Jamar Chase.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: So clicking Poupkua in a Kaleb Williams stack, that's what
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: you talk about a differentiator, right, All Puka Nikua has
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: to do in a lineup like this and this setup
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: is outscore Jamar Chase. Well, guess what he did, and
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: Udical won the Millionmaker by point oh eight. Right, if
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: he plays Jamar Chase there, he does not win, right
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: the five poin fifty five. So little things like that,
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: you have to be able to understand when you're fading someone,
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: what are you fading and what do you need your
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: guy to do to beat the guy that you're fading. Right,
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: in this case, any given Sunday, could Puku Nakua outscore
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: Jamar Chase absolutely right, rams one of the highest implied
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: team totals on the slate. They're playing literally New Orleans
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: who can't stop a nosebleed they have. It's just it
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: was one of the best spots on the slate, and
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: you knew people in that range were playing Jamar Chase.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: So I think that's a really really sharp play. In general,
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: you're not spinning up to a guy like Josh Jacobs,
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: who everybody or or Tucker Craft, right, You're going to
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: a fifty two hundred dollars leverage from the same team
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: off of Tucker Craft where people wanted to go to
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: when they were going at tight end. So you're not
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: playing Tucker Kraft, You're playing Romeo Dolls. But then that
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: gives you the opportunity to play rock Powers. They're in
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: the flex when you could have played both. So overall
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: a really really good team and just the little things.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: The biggest takeaway is is Pukinnakula, where most people are
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: running Jamar Chase in this lineup.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Look at this one hundred. I mean, this is no different.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: People should suspect this. It's not a big deal, but
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: just to note it, like, you know, playing one hundred
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: fifty lineups in the five to fifty five MILLI but
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: committing seventy percent of them to Nikua with you know,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: fifty percent leverage, you know, getting the leverage in on Warren,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: getting the leverage in on McCaffrey, taking about the field
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: on Manungai, which you know seems to be sort of
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: the method there, taking about the field on Jamar Chase,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: and then getting some leverage on Tracy as well. I
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: don't feel as bad about my Tracy call now seeing
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: this and looking back, but yeah, it's interesting. Underweight on DK,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: overweight heavily on Warren. I don't know, like looking at
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: this stuff. If you've see anything that stands out, Matt.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: But I want to go back real quick before I
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: kick it to you, just to show Nad's point off.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: So a couple of things. I got Caleb's elected Caleb
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: in this the twenty dollars million maker, just for bigger
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: numbers to see it. I know we're talking the five
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: fifty five, but and I can go there in a second.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. Just kind of showing the point is
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: all that matters. That's why something is know better this way.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: But Jamar Chase with Caleb six five hundred lineups four
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: point two to three percent, change that to Nakua down
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: to seventeen hundred and change one point one percent. Here's
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: the big one though, And I can never understand this.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: You know how the slate's playing out. You definitely know
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: based on leverage, lane ownership, the common build, everything is
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: going more of a stars and scrubs. We talked about
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: the balance being possible. You're stacking the shit out a
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Caleb Williams zero point six nine percent. Run it back
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: with t Higgins when you can get a different type
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: of bill, a balance build. What if Jonathan Taylor did
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: have a big day yesterday, what a bejeon bounce back
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: in there was so many different way what do you
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: need a pooka in there? Instead? You could have had
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: a Puka with Higgins and double leveraged it and really
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: got a combination that nobody has. But only a thousand
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: lineups out of one hundred and sixty one thousand when
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: you think about how many played Caleb as a whole,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: and now only a thousand total lineups played Caleb with
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: T Higgins. Who's the run Who's one of the runbacks
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: that can make it all work. So I don't even
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: have anything to add their map. But just going back
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: to it too, talking through this five P fifty five
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: million maker. We'll look at Macklove and Fantasy and a
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: couple others in a minute on this leaderboard. But anything
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: else you want to add for this stuff or anything
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: else we talked about.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Here, Yeah, for me, it all goes back to that
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: not having Rome, and the smaller field you get, the
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: more pertinent that's gonna because there's gonna be more handbuilt
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: lineups and contests like this, and the smaller you go,
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: and people who are handbuilding lineups are not gonna play
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Caleb without Rome, which is not gonna happen. So when
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: you get you know, five hundred and fifty five dollars contests,
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: I would venture to say that the majority of Caleb
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: lineups at Rome, you know, unlike the twenty dollars where
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be split. In a contest like this and
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: smaller field stuff, you're gonna find that, you know, you're
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: really set apart by playing Caleb without Rome.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I went up to almost seven percent in this tournament,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: so five thousand five almost timer, I mean you can
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: round it up. It's almost percent of the lineups played
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Caleb and and Rome together. And that's you know, the
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: starting point there. So it's just one way to look
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: at it. But you can also do it this way
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: because I know what you were saying earlier, you just
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: have to reverse engineer. The math is if you go.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Caleb is only like ten percent owned? Is the point?
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: So like, if he's ten percent owned and seven percent
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: of the lineups played him with Rome three only, you
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: know there's only three percent that didn't.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, where's uh what was Caleb's price skin? So Caleb
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: was eleven percent owned, right, and so you know, give her,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: give her take five hundred and sixty or whatever it is.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Six hundred lineups called let's get the round up, seven
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: hundred lineups, even half of them had had Rome in
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: it at three hundred and fifty three hundred fifty on
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: seven hundred dish we'll use basic math. So yeah, half
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: of those lineups had Rome in it, and that already
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: killed you. So that's the point.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: And the other half had Jamar Chase, whereas it drops
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: down in this contest to sub one percent had Higgins
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: and not Chase. So you're talking like almost the entire
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: allotment of Caleb Williams team had either Chase or Rome
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: or both or both.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, And I mean, like I said, I
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: know Chase helped some people get there late because he
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: obviously got the bonus the OT all that different stuff.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Or it wasn't OT. I don't think it went to
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: which one went to OT yesterday? It was Raiders Raiders. Yeah,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: so that's saying so they ended up going for it
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: late in the back and forth and then seeking that one.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: And that was a crazy game. This this Chicago Cincinnati
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: after the defensive TV got called back, that would have
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: just sealed it and gets them back out there like
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: just in say we were saying this game is drunk
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: just watching it back and forth. But yeah, look at
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: this this ownership overall. Now this is muck Lovin's portfolio.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: We'll go look at his second place lineup in a second.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: But it's interesting. He was really heavy on the giant stuff, right,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: You've got Robinson, you got Tracy, THEO Dart and then McCaffrey,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: all that goes together. On the Chicago side, it was
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: very heavy on anung guy. But if you go down
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: the board for him, Caleb's you know down here, he
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: had him a little bit fourteen versus ten. He had
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Zakia's twelve versus seven. So yeah, interesting stuff just when
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: comparing the two his lineup, Matt was a Caleb lineup,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: of course, but just it was a much different setup.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: It was Caleb Manungui with Jamar Chase had a couple
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: secondary stacks in there where It's interesting because he had
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: the Atlanta D but he was and with Drake London,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: but it looked like a secondary stack of Henderson versus Drake,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: but he was willing to play Henderson versus the Atlanta D.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Who cares had the secondary of Parker and Bowers, And
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: then it just lands on CMC a lot of really
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: good plays, you know, leveraged in a different way, like
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: a four percent Drake London ten percent Atlanta D. I
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: guess is up there a bit, but not how much
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: for a D still ninety percent didn't have it, but
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: playing the Atlanta player against his D. So what's your
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: thoughts on this build?
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, really really good lineup. Uh, you know, just put
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: together really really well. I don't mind the Atlanta D
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: with Traveon because of their price tags, especially Travion's tag
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: and the fact that you'd expect him to really work
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: into the passing game. I think that's kind of a
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: you know, I wouldn't go out of my way to
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: do it, but I wouldn't be changing lineups that had that.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: You look at this lineup compared to the top lineup,
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: almost feel like this lineup should have won it. As
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: you mentioned, Ned's like you to Kyle using Puka over
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Chase in that lineup was the difference. Without that, he
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: doesn't win it. And yeah, Chase was fine, he got
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: there in the end twenty plus d K points, but
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: he wasn't as good as Puka to your point. So yeah,
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: really really similar lineups as shown by their scores sometimes
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: you know them was just the breaks. The Loveland call,
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: you know, set you to a part there by having
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: Loveland and Bauers and I'm with you, Tambo. Like at
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: the beginning of the week with Comet questionable, I really
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: liked the idea of getting to Loveland. He was hard
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: to get to though later in the week with Comet back,
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: how many good tight ends there were, how much just
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: overall good value there was, so, you know, props to
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: him forgetting to him.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, made says to put it all together like this,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: I will say, I definitely like seeing a line up
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: up like this with this leverage built in, which still
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: is a thing about it. McCaffrey, Mononguy, Bowers, Pooka kleb Like,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: it's all amazing plays getting a piece of the depot game. Still,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: if you're leaving out Kansas City and Buffalo, you're still
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: picking up on a Jacksonville spot, on a Green Bay
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: spot where they're expected to win. By the way, that's
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: when people talk about like the Chargers d versus the
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Tennessee one, which I think is interesting is like think
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: about that Carolina whips Atlanta thirty to nothing. Then we
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: go on and talk about Atlanta versus Buffalo. The number
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: seems weird, like how is this possible? And Carolina just
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: whipped this team. Okay, Atlanta upsets Buffalo and now you're
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: looking at it like, okay, Buffalo comes back and whips Carolina,
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Like okay, it was just a fluke Da da da
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: da da. Now Buffalo's beating Kansas City and Carolina is
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: beating Green Bay. It's just like, again, not that that crazy,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: that Buffalo and like that's a hot take what I'm saying,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Like Carolina beating Green Bay, that to me is nuts.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: It's just one of those things. And it's the way
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: the NFL works so on it's nuts. It bounces around
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: so so much. So I love this build. When you
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: see this build, though, this is a to me again,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with who the player is.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking about two of the best in
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: the whole world, my Glove and Udicao. But I'm saying
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: it's not really about that. It's just it shows the
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: different styles that can get there. I like seeing more
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: leverage because this is how I build. I'm naturally gonna
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: have a few of these lower owned options in there
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: and hope that that's what helps get me to the
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: top with a nice build. It's not who you play,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: it's how you play them, et cetera. But really this
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: speaks more highly to it's not who you play, it's
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: how you play them, because there is almost no leverage
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: outside of Drake, no player leverage, particularly where you're getting
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: a lower owned play. There's a tonnel leverage in the
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: way this is built. Like people said, but I think
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: it's just it still has the secondary stacks. It's saying,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: you know what people are gonna try and figure out
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Rome versus o Z, versus More versus Higgins, et cetera.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Let me just take Chase Menunga and Caleb and wrap
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: that up right there. Let me get a nice secondary stack.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: If Henderson actually does something, maybe it's London that benefits.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: On the way back, he's got a good defense he's
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: up against. If Parker and Bowers have a little bit
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: of a back and forth, that works and helps me
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: get to the top and best running back. He had
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: the same projection at one thousand bucks less as Jonathan Taylor,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: and magically it worked out that way like he smashed
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor did not the thousand bucks saved was good,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: the ownership was valid, et cetera, et cetera. So my
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: point being this, there is a thing of beauty to
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: being able to blend all these plays at ten percent
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: and above. Besides, Drake London still make it make a
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: ton of sense and be able to find its way
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: to literally a one v one or whatever. He didn't
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: have the one hundred bucks to get to Nikua. But
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: maybe it's the Tennessee defense and don't play a defense
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: against your guy. An upgrade to that and just get
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: different that way and you win the millie that way.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Who knows between these guys are using optimizers for everything.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: But just to note it, it's interesting, Mad, it looks
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: like you want to chime in there a little bit,
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: you want to add anything else. And then I want
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: to look at my boy Fanta Sin. He won the
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: million just a couple of weeks ago again for however
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: many times it's been now, But I want to look
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: at his lineup because I thought it made a ton
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: of sense as well.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: But go ahead, yeah, just the you're not playing Rome,
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: so you're playing London. You're not playing the keys within
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: your Kalb stack. You're playing Parker Washington correlating him to
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: brock Bauers right where most people are playing Tyler Warren
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: in that spot, right at least in this contest. So
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: just there is leverage built in even though these guys
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: you talk about combined ownership right in rosters, the way
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: he used this ownership is different than anybody else in
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: this turn of or majority of the ownership of those bills. Right,
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: So it's not X player is X percent owned? How
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: is he owned in a way that it makes sense?
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: And how is that different than what the field's playing him?
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: And I think the London over rome, but then Parker
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: Washington over as a Kias and Akil Williams stack where
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: projections were popping in it's a kias. I'm sure I
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: didn't look at the ownership, but I'm sure the Kias
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: is pretty close to that tend to se sixteen percent
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: range in this contest due to what is Yeah, so
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: what his projection was, but overall his ownership is I
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: would be willing to bat almost one hundred percent tied
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: to Cale Williams.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think I'll be able to find a
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: rome anywhere near the top. I was just seeing if
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: I could find it like a dead lineup where Rome
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: heard it, and that would be the case, so I
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: could at least find one all right here. I just
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: had it somewhere here. So Rome was almost ten percent
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: in this one. But yeah, going back, I think this
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: is why I love having you guys on the show
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: with me, kind of picking out the little extras there.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: This is the most common credit. Oh, I better cat
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: my ownership at X number? Do you have to You
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: definitely don't. Two hundred and thirty three percent total versus
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy six. The difference are two points,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: and we found it in five places. But to Naed's point,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: and this is important, is the anti tying into Matt's
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: point of the whole show and the theme of this
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: show with the Rome stuff is most people have Rome
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: and do a little bit something different here instead he
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: goes to London and then instead a z A Kias
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: or something like Dad, he ties a Parker, even at
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: a higher ownership. It's just how many people have the
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: combo of this type of setup. And then one way
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: to set it apart is just have your defense against
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: a guy and then you can get away with even
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: more So the more you build leverage in through your
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: roster construction, not just the plays that's the product of it.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: The more you're able to find ways to get different
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: and not have to focus on this type of stuff, Matt,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: you want to add anything else on that one?
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one thing that we you know, when we do
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: these shows and when all shows are done talking about
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: like the week before, there's so many good plays and
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: so many guys that had good weeks. You kind of
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: the guys that were popular that didn't do well. Obviously
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: we're talking about Rome a lot, but another guy that
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: we haven't mentioned once throughout this entire show is Kamani Vaidal.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: So that was the other leverage with Tennessee's defense and
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: part of you know, for me, I was way under
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: the field on the doll in the twenty dollars and
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: the five fifty five. But just because you're under a
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: guy who doesn't do well, it doesn't mean that week's made.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: You gotta get everything else right. So was still not
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: a good week for me. But that's a guy that
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: kind of gets you know, falls under the radar for
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: lack of another term, and he was really really popular
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: in the twenty dollars million in the twenty dollars and
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: five fifty five. So all these lineups that we're looking
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: at and we're talking about how they didn't have Rome,
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: they also didn't have a popular by Dow.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, And that's another thing you got to look at.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: And that's where also too, what was before I go
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: to fencea SINS lineup? I just want to see the
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: field exposure Vidal twenty three percent? And that's where some
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: people that don't follow it, or you know, wonder about
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: how did people land on the Tennessee defense and what
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: were they in this I'm trying to see if I
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: can find anyway. We'll probably find it because on the
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: leader board, right, what was the Someone's got to have
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: them up here two percent? So it's a two percenter
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: versus twenty percent. Or if you're not landing on Vidal,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: why not have the defense on the opposite side of them.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: That's just another prime example again all but tendancy sucks.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Doesn't matter. We're literally all I care about is today,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: and it matters because one of the pieces in the
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: game call it a chess game, one of the chess
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: pieces is this, in this case, the DFS game of chess.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: There's people with this piece, very high owned. We're trying
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: to beat that and leverage it. It doesn't matter what happens.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: It's a product of if everything else works and makes
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: sense and you land there. You're not on the other piece.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: It's just another piece of leverage you can insert into
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: your lineup, all the stuff and anybody who's watching this.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: You made some great points there too, of like we
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: barely talk about the plays themselves, just like when we're
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: talking about the actual shows. It's like it's this goes
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: together and becomes this. We're all we're talking about all
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: concepts and theories. How not who That might be a
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: new freaking three word on the shirt or a motto,
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: because it's just the whole point. It's it's all about how.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: It's not about who. The who is the after effect. Yes,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: you do see them, you can go buy the jersey,
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: you can go. I know you're a big memorabilia guy, Matt,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: I love that shit. Go get the memorabilia when they
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: make it happen for you because they had an outlier,
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: but the lineup you built wasn't prefaced off of them.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: It's not just that one thing. It's you still need
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: eight other pieces in NFL to go your way, or
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: five other pieces in a showdown slate to your sixth
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: piece that goes off. So you need a ton of
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: things to happen. But let's look at one more here.
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: That's like DFS gospel though the how not who? Yeah,
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: it's just so many things. Focus on the picks. We
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: got the picks, come here, we got the winners. We
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: got this like, hopefully you got people that actually play
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: and win. That would be awesome to start with. But
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: then secondary, hopefully they know how to play. And the
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: thing I'll say, and so I think it's so true.
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: We'd spend a ton of time on this stuff. But
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: it's the best players are not always the best coaches.
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: That's another thing.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: There's not people that eat, sleep, and breathe teaching, mentoring,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: going through helping others and actually teach them to get
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: better at the game, versus people that just are the
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: best at the game. Tiger Woods is one of the
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: best golfers of all time, if not the to most people.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: But you know, and he does a little few classes
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: and courses and things like that here or there, but
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: he's not out teaching. If you was teaching golf, he'd
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: be amazing at it, I'm sure, but you're not always
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: also going to get access to the best people that
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: are the best teachers as well, So there's there's so
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: many points to go off of just to make that known.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: I think it's important, but fant to send one of
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: the best players in the world, my guy that I
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: love talking to me. I've met him a bunch of times,
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: went up for dinner him and his wife and different
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: things like that. He's an awesome, awesome person and an
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: even better DFS player. So if you look at it,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: it's like, look at this Joe Flacco, I should have
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: flipped that. By the way, shut up to my guy, Gio.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: I'm awesome DFS player, even better person. I was trying
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: to say, my guy, but just look at this Joe Flacco, Jamar,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Chase Higgins, Manung, Guy Zakias. You get your game stack
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: in there, you get Christian McCaffrey in there, like this
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: lineup's beautiful. Just didn't get all the way to the top.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Warren we talked about earlier, and you see steamed up
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: in the higher stake stuff. So the sharp the sharper
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: high the more expensive tournaments not always the sharper players,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: but it typically is that are playing more lineups. So
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: this did steam up and in this one, but it
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: made sense. And then you have Brock Bowers that fills
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: it out with the Houston d Nate's this lineup to me,
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: max is up the salary. It's it's got a fair amount.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: This is what I like building, like we talk about it.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: Look here is again it's our favorite one even without
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: our old friend Joe Burrow. Jamar Chase is gonna be
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: thirty six percent. But you can't play Flacco or can
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: you right? Thirty six points here? And I know, look
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: it didn't win the tournament. I'm just saying this is
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: a classic thing we see so often. If this guy's
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: gonna break the slate and get to a ceiling score,
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: you'd think this would be part of it. Now he didn't,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: but you got to other pieces because of it. So
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: Nate's I'll kick it to you first. But I love
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: this build and it's got leverage built in stacks, et cetera,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: et cetera. This just makes a ton of sense to me.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: Give me your thoughts.
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, first thing I say is everybody wanted Flacco doubles.
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: Last two weeks right, the Jets and the Steelers when
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: he kind of took over center. But now nobody wants
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: Flacco doubles in the second highest total on the slate
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: against the Bears defense. When you know everybody's playing Jamar Chase,
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: it's just the slice and dice factor within the same
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: team still playing good plays. You're not playing Yoshi Foss.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: You're not playing trying to figure out who the wide
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: receiver three or who's gonna set this game over the top.
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: You're playing Chase and Hick Right, two good football players
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: with a quarterback who's throwing for three hundred plus in
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: like three straight games. Right, So I think that's really good.
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: But not only that too, the over a correlation in
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: a field like this and a contest like this, especially
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: for handbuilders, Right, this is a contest that a lot
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: of people win tickets into right outside of your obviously
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: your pros like the Udos, the Mucklove and the Fanta Sins,
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: all of these mme right, one hundred and fifty max ers.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: Most people that are playing this, or at least the
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: casuals that are playing this, are winning their way in
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: on tickets. Right. Maybe they have one to five entries
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: right in a contest like this, and they're probably handbuilding
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: or virtual handbuilding with an optimizer, and they're going correlation
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: right because they want to get right. The correlation I
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: see here is McCaffrey up. Instead of warrant to the
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: running back position, you run it back with a Wandale
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: Robinson right. You could have who was projecting well still
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: in that good game environment because you weren't playing Tracy,
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: you weren't playing Jackson Dart, you weren't playing that. You
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: tie it to McCaffrey is a different way, and then
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: you go double tight end like many people were doing. Right,
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: you move back powers down to the fax that would
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: have costed him fourth place right in this just by
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: over correlating there. So I think that's one of the
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: call outs there. But just flipping the script right. The
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: opposite side, right, Mac Jones was a prime example, opposite
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: side of Jackson Dart. Right. Everybody wanted Jackson Dart. Nobody
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: wanted to play the mac Jones side. You compare him
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: with McCaffrey, much like this game environment on opposite side
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: of the kel William stuff. Still using the two good
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: plays or two value plays right as a combo pack.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: An young guy forty six hundred is a kiss thirty
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: three hundred for less than eight k. You have them
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: both right, you're not playing Rome. That allows you to
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: get to chase in a different way.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just I love seeing this like za kias people
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: complain about like the cheap chalk, It's like, again, ninety
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: two percent of the field not on them. You have
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: a room with one hundred people in ninety two exit.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: I'll keep using this one. It's my favorite lately. Like
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: that's a lot of people just left the room. One
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: hundred people are standing in a room, ninety two walk out.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: You're literally now you're staring at eight people. You're like,
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: oh shit, there's like nobody here. But oh he's chalk.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: When people oh the chalk smash, they're like at the
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: chalk value, it's eight percent, Like it literally doesn't matter.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: So there's that T Higgins three point six percent. Like
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: these are the things that I'm talking about that you
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: can just find and just people get so caught up
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: in the mix. Hopefully this shows you today when we're
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: looking at literally some of the best players in the
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: entire world that I've been doing this for a very
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: long time just proving this stuff again and again, like
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: people complaining and winding over it. It's like figure out
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: how to get different with it. That's what this is
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: all about, and look for different angles of attack. There's
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: a ton of leverage still in this lineup. Eighty five
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: people walk out of a room, fifteen stand by with
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: the brock Bowers ticket in their hand, and then there's
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: other pieces that need to get right. But they built accordingly.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: You know, one hundred people in a room and this,
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: you know, twelve twelve are left over after the room
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: exits for the Houston d but all chalk and they
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: got a zero. I'm just showing you, like, that's the
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: only thing he got fourth with a zero down here.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: So it just shows the builds and how you can
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: get there differently. And I think a lot of people
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: are overthinking a lot of things and that's what we
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: want to learn from and take away from it. So nay,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: any any other final thoughts from you on just the
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: overall as a slate or anything think we missed or
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: anybody any of the questions you saw in the chat
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: or anything that people had do you want to talk about?
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah? No, I think this is a fun game that
• 55:11
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• 55:14
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• 55:16
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• 55:19
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• 55:22
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• 55:26
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• 55:29
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• 55:52
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• 55:58
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• 56:00
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• 56:10
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• 56:12
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• 56:16
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  Speaker 1: How is our guy titled there's levels to this? This
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  Speaker 1: is it Knaves just showed Matt him and I did.
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  Speaker 1: It's on here somewhere an hour and five minutes of
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  Speaker 1: our exact process of using the stone, taking it to
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  Speaker 1: the stack, rankings, which you'll see here in a second
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  Speaker 1: and showing you our exact process on how we build.
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  Speaker 1: This is behind the scenes, totally different than like a tutorial.
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  Speaker 1: This is not how it works, this is how we
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  Speaker 2: No great show with you guys. Just one thing you
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  Speaker 2: said that kind of stuck with me and struck a
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  Speaker 2: chord is you know, just because someone is the absolute
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  Speaker 2: best at something doesn't make them the best teacher. You
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  Speaker 2: kind of have to know who you're dealing with. And
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: look at managers in Major League Baseball, for instance, Steven
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  Speaker 2: Vote just an average MLB player, really really good manager. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 2: guy like Ted Williams, who was one of the top
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  Speaker 2: ten hitters ever one of the top twenty five worst
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  Speaker 2: like you got to deal with each individual person individually.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you want the tools, you want to get
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  Speaker 1: access to me. And there's definitely a ton of coaching teaching.
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  Speaker 1: That's the thing. We don't have any ask me anything.
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  Speaker 1: One hour segments or Q and A like. Matt will
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: be in there at seven o'clock, eight o'clock at night
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  Speaker 1: with you, with you know, putting the NBA stuff in,
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: just like you are up to lock helping you out.
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  Speaker 1: So there is no you know, you only get access
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• 58:37
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• 58:39
  Speaker 1: just had the the winner in the minimax, says, does
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: Mastermind go over bankroll management? Not just for NFL? I
• 58:44
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• 58:46
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• 58:48
  Speaker 1: this one? So forty minutes going over? We're I'm breaking
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• 58:54
  Speaker 1: DraftKings and it talks about tournaments versus standard offerings, prize payouts, structures, satellites, qualifiers,
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• 59:06
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• 59:08
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  Speaker 1: An NBA process is back now because we've got NBA back,
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  Speaker 1: so there's tons of stuff there. Go ahead, Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's also this that it gets talked about. I
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: know Tamla and I talked about it too. Just using
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: an optimizer, right, even without sims, right, even if you
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: don't have sims. Saber sim has their own SIMS built
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: in to rosters, right, So just playing with an optimizer
• 59:38
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• 59:41
  Speaker 3: or looking at what your lineups are going to look
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: like to give you an idea of what these sims
• 59:46
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• 59:48
  Speaker 3: there's levels to the sims. You know, sims are very
• 59:50
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• 59:54
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• 59:57
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• 1:00:00
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