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Show Rewind 9-18-26 · South Carolina's Morning News

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  Speaker 1: This is South Carolina's Morning News.
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  Speaker 2: We got more buttons to push. Good morning and welcome
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  Speaker 2: back to it. It's Kelly Nash as we launch into
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  Speaker 2: our Friday edition of South Carolina's Morning News. I am
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  Speaker 2: here with Christopher Thompson as always.
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  Speaker 3: A better rested Kelly Nash?
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  Speaker 2: Yes. So last night According to my sleep tracker, I
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  Speaker 2: fell asleep at 6.30. So I've got about eight and
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  Speaker 2: a half hours in me, and I'm ready to rock
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  Speaker 2: and roll as best I can today. And getting ready
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  Speaker 2: for a big Gamecock Saturday. I know the Tigers got
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  Speaker 2: a huge game there. Somebody was asking the question yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: is this the most important game of Shane Beamer's career? Like,
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  Speaker 2: if he was to lose this game, And I don't
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  Speaker 2: think it is. I mean, because there's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: get-back opportunities for Shane.
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  Speaker 4: Like, if they won next.
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  Speaker 2: Week on the road at Alabama, everybody quickly forgets that
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  Speaker 2: you lost to Mississippi State at home. I feel like
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  Speaker 2: it's the Tigers who need this game more just for
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  Speaker 2: the morale of their fan base.
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  Speaker 3: Anytime you start conference play, it's a tone setter, no doubt.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, there are other opportunities down the road. It's
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  Speaker 3: hard to write off a season after two games or
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  Speaker 3: three games after tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It'd be great because we haven't been 3-0 in many,
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  Speaker 4: many years.
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  Speaker 3: Since 2012.
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  Speaker 4: So best Gamecock coverage starts, is it at 1 tomorrow?
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  Speaker 3: On WVOC here in Columbia and, of course, on our
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  Speaker 3: iHeartRadio app.
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  Speaker 4: That's right. People should tune in.
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  Speaker 2: If you're down in the low country listening to us
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  Speaker 2: on 94.3 WSC and you happen to be a Gamecock fan,
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  Speaker 2: Christopher Thompson puts together a really incredible three hours before
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  Speaker 2: kickoff every Saturday.
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  Speaker 3: And Kelly Nash joins us.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just sitting there just, you know, yucking it up. But,
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  Speaker 2: you know, John Whittle contributes a ton from, what.
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  Speaker 4: Is it, 24-7?
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  Speaker 3: Gamecock 24-7. Or as he called it, 24-7.
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  Speaker 2: But you heard on the top of the hour news
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  Speaker 2: break there from Fox about Maria Salazar. And for those
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  Speaker 2: of you not familiar, she is a Florida Republican. who
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  Speaker 2: has had the same position. I don't think her position
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  Speaker 2: has really changed in, in the decade or so that
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  Speaker 2: I've been aware of her because I thought she was
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  Speaker 2: outside of the norms of the Republican party and the
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  Speaker 2: sense that she has always said that any person who's
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  Speaker 2: basically gotten here should, should get some sort of privilege
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  Speaker 2: and stay.
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  Speaker 4: Um, And she's now made the bold claim. How did
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  Speaker 4: she open her thing?
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  Speaker 2: Mr. President, some of your immigration enforcement efforts have gone
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  Speaker 2: too far. And she went on to say that you're
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  Speaker 2: going to lose the Latino vote. Be careful what your
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  Speaker 2: advisors are telling you. The same Hispanics who helped you
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  Speaker 2: get to the White House in 2024 feel betrayed today.
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  Speaker 2: If she's talking about herself, okay, I understand. But I
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  Speaker 2: think that my... recollection of the 2024 polling and previous
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  Speaker 2: polling was that some of the most adamant, secure the borders,
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  Speaker 2: kick out the illegals, were in fact the Hispanics who
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  Speaker 2: had gotten here legally.
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  Speaker 3: I think one of the travesties of the Trump administration
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  Speaker 3: so far has been the fact that they secured the
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  Speaker 3: borders so quickly and easily. Well, not easily, but They
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  Speaker 3: made it look so easy compared to the previous administration
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  Speaker 3: that you almost forget that was such a big issue
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  Speaker 3: in the last campaign.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, did Trump campaign on we're going to
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  Speaker 2: mass deport the worst of the worst? That is not
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  Speaker 2: his campaign promise. We're going to deport all illegals was
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  Speaker 2: what he ran on. that position was clarified by some
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  Speaker 2: who said, of course, we're going to target the worst
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  Speaker 2: of the worst. To begin, we want to get the
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  Speaker 2: murderers and the sexual offenders and the degenerates out first.
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  Speaker 4: That's the priority. And it still is the priority.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that we've seen a massive drop in
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  Speaker 2: crime across this country because that was the priority or
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  Speaker 2: continues to be the priority. However, when you also throw
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  Speaker 2: in the fact that Sometimes people get caught up. So
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  Speaker 2: about half of the people being deported right now just
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  Speaker 2: shouldn't have been here. They overstayed visas or whatever the
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  Speaker 2: case may be. They bobbed and weaved and then they
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  Speaker 2: got caught in an airport or they got caught somehow
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  Speaker 2: without doing it the right way. Again, I just refer
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  Speaker 2: back to the original position. What he ran on in 2023,
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  Speaker 2: 2024 was we're going to get rid of all of them.
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  Speaker 2: They're all going. How many ever million came across? 12
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  Speaker 2: to 20 million, depending on what numbers people tend to use.
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  Speaker 4: They're all going.
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  Speaker 2: But we are prioritizing the worst of the worst first
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  Speaker 2: because you can't do them all at once. You don't
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  Speaker 2: have a magic button to get them all out. But
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  Speaker 2: they're all going. That was the Trump position. I think
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  Speaker 2: it was popular with the Latinos, the ones that are
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  Speaker 2: in this country legally.
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  Speaker 4: Because they worked so hard to get it.
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  Speaker 2: They recognize that what they fought for is being undermined
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  Speaker 2: by illegal immigrants. And so they don't want that taken
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  Speaker 2: away from them, nor should you want your birthright taken
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  Speaker 2: away from you if you had the good fortune of
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  Speaker 2: being born in America, the people who became citizens. And again,
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  Speaker 2: we've talked about this before. There's about 50 million people
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  Speaker 2: that were born outside of the U.S. that are either
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  Speaker 2: here legally or they have actually gone on and become
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  Speaker 2: full-time citizens, which is, again, by far the most welcoming
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  Speaker 2: nation in the history of the world to have 50
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  Speaker 2: million here, you know, participating in this great experiment called
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  Speaker 2: the United States of America. And we're happy to have them.
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  Speaker 2: We just want everybody to do it legally. And I
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  Speaker 2: think Maria is way out of line on that one. Although,
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  Speaker 2: You know, maybe people have other thoughts. You can use
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  Speaker 2: the talkback feature. Yesterday, we had a lot of great talkbacks, Christopher.
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  Speaker 3: We did.
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  Speaker 2: I hope that the people will use them again today.
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  Speaker 2: And always, if you can remember, give us your name
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  Speaker 2: and town because we'd love to hear that as well. But, man,
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  Speaker 2: we had some guys and gals giving a lot of
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  Speaker 2: passion yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: Bring the passion. It's time for a quick break. 609.
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  Speaker 1: You're listening to South Carolina's Morning News.
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  Speaker 2: And I am Kelly Nash with Christopher Thompson. Hope your
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  Speaker 2: Friday morning is getting off to a great start. I
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  Speaker 2: just noticed that Adam Morgan, one of the... Do we
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  Speaker 2: always have to say far right when we talk about...
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  Speaker 2: Our Freedom Caucus.
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  Speaker 4: The Freedom Caucus.
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  Speaker 2: But usually I notice like in the media, whenever they
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  Speaker 2: talk about anybody who is in the Freedom Caucus, they're
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  Speaker 2: far right.
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  Speaker 5: So.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I almost feel like that's like a default. You have
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  Speaker 2: to say the far-right Freedom Caucus. Is Adam like the
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  Speaker 2: head now of the Freedom Caucus in South Carolina?
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  Speaker 3: I think Jordan Pace still is.
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  Speaker 1: Jordan Pace.
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  Speaker 4: That's right. Jordan Pace. Adam's just a member of it.
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  Speaker 2: He had tweeted out, I guess this was yesterday, a
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  Speaker 2: map that Fox News put out showing H-1B visa workers
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  Speaker 2: in the United States between 2015 and 2025. And then
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  Speaker 2: he circled South Carolina and said we're too red in
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  Speaker 2: this instance because they were using the shades of red,
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  Speaker 2: like actually by counties, to show how many people with
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  Speaker 2: H-1B visas were involved in the United States. So total
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  Speaker 2: for the entire country between 2015 and 2025, it looks
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  Speaker 2: like 6.8 million ballpark were brought in to do what
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  Speaker 2: is supposed to be specialized work, right? If you're getting
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  Speaker 2: an H-1B visa, this is, I'm just reading the description
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  Speaker 2: here from the United States government, the job must need
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  Speaker 2: high-level knowledge and a specific degree. You must have at
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  Speaker 2: least the equivalent of a U.S. bachelor's degree, and the
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  Speaker 2: employer must sponsor and file that application on behalf of
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  Speaker 2: the worker. Federal law limits new visas to 65 thousand
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  Speaker 2: standard spots each year. I think that's a new development.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, I don't have a problem with the H-1B visas. Now,
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  Speaker 2: the H-2 visas, that's the one for agriculture. So if
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  Speaker 2: you're like a peach picker in South Carolina from another country,
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  Speaker 2: I do have a little bit of a problem with
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  Speaker 2: that because that's more in line with the people that
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  Speaker 2: we always hear, these are jobs Americans just aren't going
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  Speaker 2: to do. Well, we have a lot of Americans who
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  Speaker 2: are sitting on their duffs So I think that these
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  Speaker 2: people should take these jobs. Christopher, what about you?
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  Speaker 3: Well, we need them. We need them done. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: we've got a lot of agriculture jobs here in the
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  Speaker 3: state of South Carolina, and farmers are sometimes desperate for
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  Speaker 3: help seasonally.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that would be the H-2 visas. And again,
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  Speaker 2: we're talking about the H-1B visas, which are supposed to, again,
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  Speaker 2: I don't have a problem if these people have some
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  Speaker 2: sort of unique skill sets. Now, I would point to
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  Speaker 2: the universities and say, This is a shame on you, Clemson, University.
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  Speaker 4: Of South Carolina.
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  Speaker 2: Why is it that our state needs to bring in
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  Speaker 2: people who have some sort of unique skill set and
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  Speaker 2: or education that South Carolinians don't currently have?
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  Speaker 3: Good question.
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  Speaker 2: That would be a point of, okay, we need to
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  Speaker 2: refocus curriculums.
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  Speaker 4: We need to do that sort of thing.
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  Speaker 2: Again, the H-1B visas are not supposed to be just
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  Speaker 2: another opportunity to try to figure out how to backdoor
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  Speaker 2: the system. So I'm not sure if that's what Adam
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  Speaker 2: Morgan believes is happening. If Representative Morgan believes that the
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  Speaker 2: reason we're seeing so much red in some of the
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  Speaker 2: bigger cities in Columbia is because it looks like, actually,
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  Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you, just based off the map,
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  Speaker 2: if I was to guess, it looks like Columbia is
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  Speaker 2: the reddest. Columbia-Lexington area looks like it's the reddest. Then
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  Speaker 2: the next one would be way up, like that Rock
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  Speaker 2: Hill going into Charlotte area. And then it would be
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  Speaker 2: down in Charleston and then some in the Greenville area too.
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  Speaker 2: Not so much in the, uh, uh, the rural.
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  Speaker 4: Areas a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Now, if you want to compare us to like the
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  Speaker 2: entire Northeast, there's a swath on I-95 that starts right
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  Speaker 2: around DC and it is like dark red all the
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  Speaker 2: way up through mass, uh, you know, Boston area. So, uh,
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  Speaker 2: but again, these are supposed to be high level people.
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  Speaker 2: But why don't we have them here in America? That
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  Speaker 2: is a question for our colleges that should be answered.
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  Speaker 2: We shouldn't have to bring in all these people to
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  Speaker 2: do high-level jobs. So something to think about. Do you
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  Speaker 2: guys have thoughts on that one? Use the talkback feature.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you've employed somebody with an H-1B visa. What did
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  Speaker 2: you need them for? Why couldn't we find a South
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  Speaker 2: Carolinian to do those jobs? Those thoughts and more will
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  Speaker 1: This is Peggy from Somerville.
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  Speaker 5: The reason there are H-1B visas is because they work
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  Speaker 5: for less. And there are many articles that you can
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  Speaker 5: find written about about workers, American workers, who had to
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  Speaker 5: train their replacements that were foreign workers on H-1B visas
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  Speaker 5: because they were hired in at less, and then the
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  Speaker 5: American worker is let go.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Peggy from Somerville, is that where she said
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  Speaker 2: she was from?
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  Speaker 4: I appreciate the talk back, Peggy.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, that's obviously the fear, is that companies
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  Speaker 2: are abusing the H-1B visas in South Carolina because... We
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  Speaker 2: have a lot of people here apparently on H-1B visas.
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  Speaker 2: And as we were talking, this is supposed to be
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  Speaker 2: a specialty. This is something unique skill sets that some
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  Speaker 2: Americans don't have the availability, which always boggles the mind.
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  Speaker 2: Like what could they possibly possess that we don't have here?
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  Speaker 2: By the way, thank you to everybody who wanted to
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  Speaker 2: hit me up on social media and text messaging to
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  Speaker 2: let me know that Adam Morgan is a former representative
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  Speaker 2: of I forgot that in 2024 he resigned or didn't
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  Speaker 2: run for re-election here in order to challenge William Timmons,
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  Speaker 2: which he lost in the 4th District. So a lot
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  Speaker 2: of you caught my error on that one. And so
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  Speaker 2: thank you for keeping me straight. But back to the
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  Speaker 2: H-1B visas, Christopher. You know, that is a fear, right,
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  Speaker 2: is that this is a way for companies to underpay
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  Speaker 2: for the same results.
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  Speaker 3: It sounds a little bit like the AI argument, too.
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  Speaker 4: Well, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's a different argument, but the same result, you wind
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  Speaker 3: up losing your job.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And to Peggy's point, if you are being forced
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  Speaker 2: to train your replacement, who you know has the exact
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  Speaker 2: same skill set as you, or maybe even less than you,
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  Speaker 2: and they're just bringing these people in from another country
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  Speaker 2: and hiding it under the H-1B visas, I hope that
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  Speaker 2: you're you know, becoming a whistleblower. I hope that you're
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  Speaker 2: reporting that to the state and federal authorities, because that
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  Speaker 2: is not the intent of the program. The intent of
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  Speaker 2: the program was clearly to make sure that America stays
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  Speaker 2: on the forefront of everything, whatever that thing is in
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  Speaker 2: the era that it's happening.
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  Speaker 4: And if you have companies.
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  Speaker 2: That are just trying to figure out how to screw
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  Speaker 2: American workers, if you want to make America great again,
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  Speaker 2: you don't want to do that. So, yeah, I am
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  Speaker 2: a little concerned about these H-1B visas that we're seeing. Apparently,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if they're increasing or not, but for
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  Speaker 2: over the last 10 years, it looks like we've had
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  Speaker 2: a boatload here in South Carolina. And again, these are
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  Speaker 2: not the people that are coming in to pick the peaches.
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  Speaker 2: That's a different visa. So what's going on there? And again,
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  Speaker 2: if you have more thoughts on that, use the talkback feature.
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  Speaker 2: We'll take a break. It's 627.
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  Speaker 6: From the Midlands to the Lowcountry, this is South Carolina's
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  Speaker 6: Morning News.
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  Speaker 2: Hi there. Kelly Nash with Christopher Thompson. And yesterday we
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  Speaker 2: were all issued a warning from King Charles. King Charles
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  Speaker 2: talking about artificial intelligence while at an AI. He was
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  Speaker 2: called to an AI summit in Scotland. And this is
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  Speaker 2: what the king had to say.
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  Speaker 7: There seems urgency in adequately considering the existential dangers of
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  Speaker 7: such technologies falling into the wrong hands and being used
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  Speaker 7: in potentially catastrophic ways.
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  Speaker 2: Does he understand what we're talking about? I don't even
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  Speaker 2: know if King Charles knows what the actual issue is.
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  Speaker 1: We're not.
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  Speaker 2: about it falling into the wrong hands. We're concerned that
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  Speaker 2: it may actually turn against us.
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  Speaker 3: It's falling into its own hands.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: And leaving our hands in the process.
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  Speaker 4: I don't mean.
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  Speaker 2: To upset people from England or whatever, or anyone. Why
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  Speaker 2: is he considered an expert on anything? I don't know
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  Speaker 2: why he's called in to... Now, does he have an amazing...
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  Speaker 2: He should... If King Charles was a book narrator... I'd
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  Speaker 2: probably download every book that he read. You'd feel infinitely
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  Speaker 2: more wise at the end of said readings from the king.
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  Speaker 4: But he's not specifically trained in anything. He's had a
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  Speaker 4: life of leisure.
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  Speaker 2: Remember when that book came out about King Charles a
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  Speaker 2: couple of years ago, and they were talking about how
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  Speaker 2: he refused. One time, my favorite one was the butler said,
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  Speaker 2: He was sitting at his desk writing something, and he
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  Speaker 2: threw something at the waste-based basket, and he missed it.
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  Speaker 2: And he rang his bell and had his butler come
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  Speaker 2: in and pick up the paper off the floor so
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  Speaker 2: he wouldn't have to do that.
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  Speaker 7: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: This is the guy that we're.
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  Speaker 2: Going to— and we don't want it to fall into the
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  Speaker 2: wrong hands.
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  Speaker 3: Well, anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, King, for your contributions. But yeah, the AI
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  Speaker 2: concern is a legit concern, and we're hearing it now.
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  Speaker 2: It seems like in every newscast, this is becoming the
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  Speaker 2: number one story, Christopher. Do you have any, like, the
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  Speaker 2: only perspective that I can offer is that I do
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  Speaker 2: understand that the companies want regulations. I can also say
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  Speaker 2: that I understand that China wants us to stop or
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  Speaker 2: slow down.
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  Speaker 3: Do they want regulations, Kelly, or are they just looking
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  Speaker 3: for somebody to take the blame for them? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: the administration has said over and over again, you're in charge,
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  Speaker 3: set your own safeguards. You're the one who's developing this.
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  Speaker 3: What did J.D. Vance say the other day? Look, if
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  Speaker 3: you're building Frankenstein, the first thing to do is stop
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  Speaker 3: and say, I don't want to build a monster.
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  Speaker 4: And we've had, well, at least one high-profile resignation.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how many other people have said, you
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  Speaker 2: know what, I don't feel comfortable doing this and I'm
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  Speaker 2: getting out.
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  Speaker 3: They're just looking for cover at this point. Well, the
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  Speaker 3: government was in charge. We tried to warn them. You're
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  Speaker 3: the ones doing all the work on this. If you
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  Speaker 3: know something's bad or has the potential to go off
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  Speaker 3: the rails, stop. Go in another direction.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems almost as if.
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  Speaker 2: You're supposed to be the smartest people in the world
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to this stuff, right? Like, I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: that the Californians have attracted the best quote-unquote talent when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to this. From wherever they live on Earth,
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  Speaker 2: you're going to make millions if you come and you
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: can work on this problem and figure it out. And
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: if they can't figure it out, the Chinese are not
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: seemingly as concerned.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: Although there are reports that say that they've been warned, hey,
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: this thing could be the end of the Communist Party,
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: but they don't care.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: But I think one of the dumbest things that I
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: keep hearing over and over again is that we need
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: some sort of global summit where everybody signs on to
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: a charter. And, you know, I'll point out one of
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: the greatest charters of all time. was at the end
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: of World War I. That charter went swimmingly when they
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: said there'll never be another war again.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: It's illegal to.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Have a war.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: And we should see how that lasted almost no time.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: Or the UN Security Council, which, oh, we're going to
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: come down on you. We're going to penalize you because
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: you invaded a foreign country. How does that work out ever?
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: And so this idea that other nations are going to
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: sign on to a charter that says we're putting these
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: certain restrictions in place and we're only going to grow
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: it at this pace.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: File that right next to the nuclear proliferation agreement.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Yes, correct, correct.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: Iran's sticking to that, aren't they?
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: I feel as if, like, I don't want to be
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: overdramatic here. Maybe I do. For ratings, I'll be overdramatic.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: America is our last hope. If Americans do not figure
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: this problem out and then set the standard for the
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: rest of the world and understand the dangers that the
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Chinese and or other nations may be developing at the
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: same time, then we probably will be in humongous trouble.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: But I would encourage the people in the Valley, get
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: to work out there. If you're in California listening on
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app with your big brain, thank you for
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: being up early because it's only like 3.37 in the
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: morning out there. But you got to go and save
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: the world from AI. AI is coming whether we want
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: it to or not. The Chinese are going to usher
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: it in or we're going to usher it in. And it's,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: I think, in beyond important. It's the most important problem
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: that we're facing right now.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: That's my thoughts. What do you think?
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Let us know on the Talk Back feature. Boy, heavy
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: stuff to start a Friday, but we'll try to find
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: something lighter to get to next.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: It's 638.
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: This is South Carolina's Morning News on 103.5 FM and
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: 560 AM, WVOC, Columbia, and.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: 94.3 WSC, Charleston.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: All right, the state newspaper back with another analysis. Maybe
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: it's just a reworking of what we were talking about
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: earlier this week regarding should we suspend the gas.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: Tax for a temporary.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: period campaign stunt or serious proposals is the headline. Will
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: South Carolina lawmakers return for gas pump relief? As we
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: spoke about earlier this week, Alan Wilson back in March,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: I think it was at the debate was talking about
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: having that ability. The state house should give that ability
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: to the governor that when it gets to a certain point,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: the governor would have the ability to suspend the gas
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: tax and It seems like McMaster doesn't want to suspend
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: the gas tax. Oh, no.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: He has said more than once it's not going to happen.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: So I guess that's probably why the statehouse not. Well,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know if the statehouse would have an appetite
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: for it either, but they're not bringing this up. They're
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: not rushing in to have a special session or anything
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: like that. At the same time, we've reworked the fact
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: that Annie Andrews has sided with Russell Fry and calling
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: for suspension of the federal gas tax. Joe Wilson has
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: thrown his support behind that idea. We also have the
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Cody Simpson Republican nominee for commission of agriculture. He's he
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: wants both the federal and the state gas tax suspended.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Kelly, you just mentioned it. Alan Wilson brought this up
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: in March. We weren't we were not in and we
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: were not out of session yet. Why didn't the General
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Assembly take it up then?
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, my thought would be that they believe what
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: it seems that the governor believes, that we need that
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: money in order to build the roads. They don't agree
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: with this temporary relief for the taxpayers.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: At the pump.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: Stop.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Full stop. They don't agree with temporary relief for taxpayers.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Or permanent relief for taxpayers. They're probably, I would imagine,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: all against the ultimate goal of what the Wilson campaign
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: has said is to begin reducing income tax and ultimately
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: eliminate income tax if possible in the future.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Why are Republicans arguing against any tax relief, temporary or permanent?
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: I can't speak for all of them.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: I can only speak for what it seems to be
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: the vibe of the people in the streets, which is
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: that a lot of the Republicans that we have would
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: have been Democrats in previous generations and just recognize that
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: the Republican party made the big shift. It's kind of like, why,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: why are some Democrats, uh, now comfortable calling themselves Democrat socialists?
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: None of nobody was doing it before Bernie Sanders.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: And then more and more are calling themselves Democrat socialists
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: because there's a push In that party to do that
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: here in South Carolina, they were all Democrats.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: We've had Joe Wilson talk about that before.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Like there was literally no Republicans here and then they
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: started winning races. And as they won more and more
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: races and the Republican brand was improved, then former Democrats,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: or at that time, Democrats realized crap. If I don't
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: have an R next to my name, I might not
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: be able to win a state race. So I've got
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: to say, I am a Republican. And a lot of people,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: you know, they became the rhinos, as we call them,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Republicans in name only. Again, Republican base is always going
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: to be about shrinking how much money goes to government.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: That should be a Is that even a litmus test?
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: We should just say we want smaller government. We want
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: less money coming out of the public and going to
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: the government, and we want less government influence on our lives.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: That's pretty much, I think, a Republican standard.
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: Live from the state capitol, this is South Carolina's Morning News.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Kelly Nash here and Christopher Thompson getting into it this
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: morning and looking for your talkbacks. Do you have thoughts, feelings,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: ideas on some of the subjects we've been talking about
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: coming up?
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: And we touched on it yesterday.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: South Carolina lawmakers want to have a voice in the
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: development of AI. What can they actually do? Is there
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: some way that South Carolina could put safeguards in place
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: that would protect us from AI? Is there a way
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: that we can maybe use it smarter in the classrooms?
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking it's more along the
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: limitations on what it can and cannot do.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: But Christopher, any thoughts on that real quick?
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: Well, I think the kids have already figured out a
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: way to use it in the classroom. The trick is
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: going to be for the teachers to stay ahead of
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: them on that front. Yeah.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: And the polling on this is getting worse by the
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: day when it comes to allowing AI into classrooms. The
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: parents don't want it overwhelmingly right now. And it seems
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: to every poll that we come out with seems to
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: get worse and worse in that direction. Although the pushback,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: the argument being... This is their world. This is what
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: they're going to inherit. They need to understand how to
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: use the prompts and those types of things much better
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: than we did. I remember when I was a kid,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: what do you think, you're going to have a calculator
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: in your pocket at all times? For a while I
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: had a calculator on my phone. Now I just say
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: to it, what's six times six? Anyway, we'll be back
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: with more and hopefully some of your talkbacks off the
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app on South Carolina's Morning News.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: This is South Carolina's Morning News.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: All right, 7.03, Kelly Nash with Christopher Thompson. Cancel culture
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: I thought was kind of behind us, but it's rearing.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: Its ugly head again. So if you've.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Been paying attention to the news, you've probably heard, no doubt,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: the story of Ed Sheeran. I think that's how you
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: pronounce his name. I think he might be from Ireland originally.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: I say that because the story references an Irish radio group.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: And what happened with Ed was.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: He had an opening act named Macklemore, and Macklemore did
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: one of his Free Palestine little rants. Not a big deal,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: but the next show was supposed to be taking place
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: at Gillette Stadium, owned by Robert Kraft, who is Jewish,
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: and he found it offensive. And he said, I'm not
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: having him perform on the stage that I own. So
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: either the tour can come without Macklemore, or it can't
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: come at all. And so basically the position of Ed
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Sheeran was, hey, I'm trying to stay politically neutral, and
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry for you, Macklemore, but, you know, I'm not
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: firing you.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: This is the promoters. This is not me. Yeah, it
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: wasn't just Robert Kraft. He teamed up with some other
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: stadium owners who said, you know, we're not going to
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: take it either.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: So then once that happened, then Ed Sheeran's entire band quit.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: And all the other opening acts quit.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Now, I did see a video, and I posted this
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: up on my X account yesterday, Ed, a couple of
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: years ago in Wembley, where he has some sort of
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: ability to record the music in real time. So he'll
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: be like, this is my guitar. Then he'll go ahead
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: and play the keyboards. And then he can do these
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: things with a foot pedal.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: He played a whole... It was like having nine musicians
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: on stage.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: No, he's incredibly talented.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: So it's actually like he doesn't need the band if
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: he wants to try to push on through with this tour.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: But if that wasn't enough that everybody's quitting and trying
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: to cancel him, cancel his tour, because, again, he's not
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: taking a position. He said something to the extent of...
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: There's two different ways to achieve peace. Both Macklemore and
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: I agree that we would like peace. I think for
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: me and my fans, it's easier for us to just say,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: we're not engaging in that. We're praying for peace. We're
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: doing this. We don't want to make anybody angry. I
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: also recognize there's people on both sides of the issues
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: that come to my concerts. I'd like to see them
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: get along with each other. And that's another way of
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: getting to peace. But that is not satisfying the left.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: And so yesterday the Irish radio group canceled him, pulled
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: all of his music and said, we're not passing any
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: judgment on him, but we just think that people need
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: to make a stand on political issues like this.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Sounds like a judgment to me.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: It sounded very judgy.
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Um, I, I am baffled as to why cancel culture
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: is allowed to exist because the It goes both ways.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: And I don't like it when the right does it either. But,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: you know, the right is nowhere near as effective on
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: the cancel culture. I guess I guess the peak of
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: cancel culture for the right was the Bud Light movement.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: The Dylan Mulvaney. Yeah, I think that was that was
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: the best that the right ever did as far as
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: cancel culture goes. And again, I'm not a fan of it.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: If you don't like a brand. Because of their political positions.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: I don't think we need an online statement. Like, I'm
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: no longer supporting so-and-so because they support such-and-such. But even
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: if you were to go to that extreme, this is
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: the opposite. This is, I don't want to be involved
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: in it. And they're canceling him. And so we're now
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: at a position... So his office is the stage. That's what,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: that's where he goes to work every day. Right. Is that,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: so he's saying in my office, I don't want to
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: talk politics, which for ever has been the proper response.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: But now it is, you have.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: To talk politics and you have to come down on
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: the right side of the issue that aligns with us,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: or we will cancel you, which seems lunatic.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, look at the, late night talk shows. I mean,
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: we've talked over and over again about Jimmy Kimmel back
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: in the day, Johnny Carson, and even Jay Leno. I mean,
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: they would make fun of both sides equally. Whereas Kimmel,
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: it's just a bash Trump fest for an hour and
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: people are, baffled as to why he's drawing such low ratings.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: Nobody wants to see that. People want to be entertained.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: People want to see Ed Sheeran get up on stage
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: and play his music, not give a speech about politics.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: And he's being backed into a corner right now where
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: he's not going to get any more concerts unless he
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: and he's not going to get his songs played, at
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: least on Irish radio. I don't know how big of
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: that is to his income, but they are definitely affecting
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: his income right now because he will not come on
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: out and say, I want a free, free Palestine. And,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: you know, look, I have 60 seconds here. Let me
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: just break this down again real quickly. Palestine was not
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: a country, okay? 1988, I believe, is the year it
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: became a country. Previously, it was under the British Empire.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: And before that, they were an enslaved people group under
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: the Ottoman Empire for hundreds of years. So they became
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: a country in the 80s. I'm not debating whether or not,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: you know, Israel was a country previously. I don't want
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: to go all the way back to biblical times and
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: start talking about Judea and all that other stuff.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: Let's just say what the.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: World said in 1948 when the League of Nations established Israel.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: So Israel, for 40-plus years than Palestine, has been a
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: people group, and the Palestinians are the ones who launched
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: the attack on October 7th. It was a brutal comeback
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: from Israel, no question. There was... They were in a
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: hostile mood after having 1,200 of their civilians murdered. It
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: was a murder. They were targeted as civilians. They weren't
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: going after the soldiers. They were going after civilians. And
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: hundreds were kidnapped and tortured and all that sort of stuff. So, yes,
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: there was like 7,000 Palestinians killed in response.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: But this is not a genocide in Palestine.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: What's happening in Palestine, if you just look at the
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: population since 2023, they have grown by over 100,000 people.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: That's the opposite of what's happening in a genocide. They
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: are not being genocided. They have brought a war to
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: their doorstep. And the people who are saying from the
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: river to the sea, free, free Palestine, you are calling
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: for the ending of Israel. You're calling for their extermination.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Israel is not calling for the extermination of Palestine. That's
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: a one-way street. Palestine is calling for the extermination of Israel.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Israel is saying, we just want peace with these people.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: How the heck do we get them to chill out?
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: And apparently the only way for them to get them
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: to chill out is to just stop breathing. So that's
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: the actual facts of the ground. Nobody's being genocided on
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: either side. One side attacked another. The other one responded.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: And they're trying to defend themselves. And now Ed Sheeran's
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: lost his career over not talking about it. It's so crazy.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: All right, maybe you've got thoughts on any of that.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Let us know on the Talkback feature. It is 7-10.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: You're listening to South Carolina's Morning News.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: This is Gene from Lexington. Where can I find Palestine
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: on a map? Is that it from Gene from Lexington?
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Good morning, Gene in Lexington. Appreciate you listening on the
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. I'm sure that you can find, you know,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: they've got... They've got like a city up there, Ramallah
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: and some other things. I don't know if it's specifically
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: identified as Palestine, but it's under Palestinian control, we'll say that.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: It's about six miles north of Jerusalem. Although in their minds,
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Jerusalem is their capital and it's fallen into enemy hands,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: even though, again, they were not a country when it
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: was Jerusalem.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: It's just crazy. It's crazy.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: This is the thing with the left, is that crazy
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: passes as sane today. And speaking of crazy, here in
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: South Carolina, we have a guy named Stephen Bixby. And
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Stephen Bixby, back in 2003, I think it was, ended
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: up killing two Abbeville police officers after he had a
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: standoff at his parents' house and was sentenced to death.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: And he's been sitting on death row, I think, since 2007,
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: something like that. Anyway, he's been coming up with all
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: kinds of appeals. The most recent appeals, which have been
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: brought out, was– how do they word this again? They're
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: basically trying to say he's not competent because he doesn't
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: believe in most American laws. He doesn't believe that they
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: apply to him. He also said at one time that
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: he saw an angel at the crime scene, special significance
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: in numbers, and believes that most laws are unconstitutional, according
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: to– Who cares what he thinks? That's always where I've
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: come down on. If he's crazy or not crazy, why
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: is it incumbent upon the people to continue to pay
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: for the maintenance of Stephen Bixby, whether it's for guards, food, whatever?
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: Medication.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: Medication.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: To make him less crazy so that he knows we're
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: getting ready to kill him.
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: This is crazy.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: So anyway, all of his appeals apparently have been used
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: up at the state level. There's maybe a push going
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: to the federal Supreme Court trying to hope to stop this.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: But they said in the report that I guess they
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: could be signing the death warrant today. So he might
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: be getting lined up. And again, I understand that. corporal punishment.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: This idea that the state puts people to death is
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: still controversial. And I'm just putting that to the side
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: and just saying, craziness can't be an excuse to get
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: out of it. I assumed you were crazy when you
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: started murdering people. That would, to me, that's always triggered
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: a crazy defense.
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: You're crazy.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: But if you're The fact that he doesn't believe that
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: the laws are constitutional or that he wants to claim
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: he saw an angel, and maybe he did see an angel.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: It doesn't matter to me. You still murdered some people.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: Law enforcement.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Law enforcement, to a law enforcement specifically back in 2003.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Do you think that we should stop it just because
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: of that, that he saw an angel and he doesn't
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: believe that the laws are constitutional?
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: No.
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: Do you think that that should be enough to get
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: them off death row? Thoughts on that?
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Use the iHeartRadio talkback feature. It is 718.
• 35:57
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• 36:12
  Speaker 2: We were just talking about the insanity defense here in
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: South Carolina, um, The most famous one as of late
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: is the Lindsay Clancy case.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: And now it's fully in the open.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: The guy who was the lone holdout is a guy
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: named Michael DeSronville, age 48, from Haiti. So you have
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: a black Haitian who has ruined the white liberal women's
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: dreams of freedom. And I would tell you, he's also
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: said that he was being targeted, he felt like, because
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: he's a Republican who supports Trump. And so that Trump
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: yesterday tweets out this American hero, a champion of justice.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: He loves the United States of America. Greatest country in
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: the world. Cherishes our sacred constitution is the pinnacle of
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: human Liberty. He supports our amazing leader.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: President Donald J.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Trump as a fellow defender of common sense, Liberty and sanity.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: I look, I, Trump is happy. I am happy. And I'm,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: I'm amazed that he was able to withstand what I'm
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: sure was a barrage. Apparently, he gave an interview with
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: News Nation yesterday, and he was talking about, I never
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: had any doubts. As I was trying to explain the
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: different possible theories during the deliberation, they kept cutting me off.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: And then kept telling me I had doubts and I'm
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: telling you, I don't have doubts based on all the
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: physical evidence, the key witnesses and what the prosecution presented.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: I thought that's enough that she knew exactly what she
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: was doing and that she planned it, which is she did.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: She did plan it. By the way, there was a woman.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: I don't have the clip available with me right now.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Oprah did that. Is Oprah doing like a TV show
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: again or something? Because she had like a studio audience.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: And they were all talking at the microphone, old school,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: like Phil Donahue style, where somebody's bringing them a mic
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: or whatever.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: And Oprah is sitting on the stage.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: And one of the women described, apparently she went to
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: a mental hospital and she was talking about her postpartum
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: depression and then her psychosis, which is what they're saying
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Lindsay Clancy had. And I'm telling you, Christopher, if you
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: don't believe in spiritual warfare, if you don't believe in demons,
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: I have no other explanation for what happened because it
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: is what she checked herself into the mental hospital for
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: like four years ago is identical to what Lindsay Clancy
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: is claiming. And she said, the first time I heard
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: the voice, I was giving my three month old son
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: a bath at the kitchen sink in a little tub
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: and he was crying and I was annoyed. And I
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: heard a male voice in my right ear say, it'll
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: stop if you push them under the water. And she said,
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: it freaked me out. We kept giving them the bath.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: And a couple of minutes later, I heard that voice again,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: just push them under the water. And she said, I
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: picked up my baby and I ran out of the room.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: And she said, then it started becoming more and more.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: And she had three children. And on one night, all
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: three kids decided they wanted to come into mom and
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: dad's room. And she said, I, after a little while,
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: I was just struggling. And I left the room, left
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: them with their father. And I went into one of
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: their rooms and I saw their toys on the floor.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: And my mind started thinking, you should use one of
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: these toys as a weapon and the children. And then,
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: jump out the window and end yourself. And that's when
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: I said to, I ran back into the room. I said,
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: we have to go to the hospital.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: I am wrong.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: And which is exactly what I always said. If Lindsay
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Clancy had just, if she actually cared about her children
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: and she knew that there was some sort of, I
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: call it a demonic attack. Because that sounds like a
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: demon would say that to you. If you're going to
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: give into it, then you're still responsible.
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: And not only that, but again, she planned it. I mean,
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: it wasn't just something that she instantly snapped. This was
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: a carefully and methodically planned attack on her children. From
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: timing out when her husband would be gone to using
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: the tools at her disposal, which happened to be exercise bands.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: Everything was plotted out.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Well, if you have thoughts on the Clancy case or
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: the one guy who denied her freedom, Michael P. DeSonreville,
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: who's been now completely doxxed, and that's why he's out
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: here giving interviews.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: Good for him.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Maybe you can get paid off these interviews. I
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: don't know. Let us know. Use the Talkback feature on
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app. It is 728.
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: From the Midlands to the Lowcountry, this is South Carolina's
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: Morning News.
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: And good morning to you.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: This is Kelly Nash, Christopher Thompson, getting ready for Gamecock
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: football tomorrow. Best Gamecock coverage starts about 1 o'clock.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: I think, right?
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: Right on the nose at 1 o'clock.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Right on.
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: Kickoffs at 4.15.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you said one of the smartest things you've ever
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: said to me on Monday.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: What was that?
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: When I was celebrating the fact that there was no
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: rain in the forecast for the coming weekend, and you said...
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: Not yet. And hasn't the forecast changed since I was
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: cheering on Monday?
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, and the thing is, it still has
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: room to wiggle.
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: Okay. It could wiggle.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: Let's wiggle. Let's wiggle a lot.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: We can wiggle.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: We got to wiggle.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: All right. So headline, Trump's EPA reforms are a huge
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: boost to manufacturers, but there's a lot more red tape
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: to cut, according to this expert. And when they look
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: at the amount of red tape, the bureaucracy that is
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: currently being implemented on American corporations, the figures are staggering.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: As many as 87% of manufacturers report that they would
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: expand business operations, hire more workers, and or increase wages
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: for those currently working there along with benefits. if the
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: permitting process of the federal government was streamlined, 87% of
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: manufacturers would either expand hiring more workers or increase the
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: wages and benefits for those currently working there if the
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: permitting process was not as restrictive and as costly as
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: it is for them. So This is one of those
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: things you can immediately point to and say, you want
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: more jobs? You want a better economy? You want people
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: making more money? This is what we do. We make
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: it easier for businesses to operate in America.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: Sounds simple enough, and that's the conservative point of view.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and so we've got... a big push going on now.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: I wish that we had the house in session. I
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: wish that Mike Johnson hadn't sent everybody home. We've got
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: to get early, uh, you know, get, get out there
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: on the campaign trail. I, I, the messages would be
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: more powerful if you were actually voting on things like this,
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: but yeah, the federal government cleaning up it's the way
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: it does business, uh, would help not just the business owners.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: I hate it when they call it trickle down and
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: I don't, did they call it that before Ronald Reagan?
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think that phrase was coined
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: back in his day.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: Because obviously it's meant to imply that the rich just
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: hang on to 99% of it, and then they just
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: let the peasants, the rest of us, get a little taste.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: But the JFK.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Position was the actual correct position, that the rising tide
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: rises all boats, and we need to– Look, we're doing great.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: I don't want to say that we're not. We brought
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: in more money last year per capita. Christopher, you were
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: just reading those statistics to us.
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: I think, yesterday.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, household average income grew. I mean, it's $ 87, 000 a year.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: I think the median household income is now.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: And we're outperforming inflation. So you're buying dollars going further.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: So things are moving in the right direction, but they
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: could be so much better. And right now, Americans are
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: not feeling good because, I hate to say it, but
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: you listen to a lot of doom and gloom, then
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: you'll feel doom and gloom. And if you watch most
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: of the mainstream media and even on social media, you're
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: going to see a lot of people saying, everything's too expensive.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: I can't get this. I can't get that.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: And then whether you have empathy for them or you just,
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: kind of re-examine your own life and go, you know what?
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: I think we should be doing better. It is a
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: little bit difficult. Whatever the case may be, there's this
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: onslaught of negativity that goes towards you. And then that's,
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: I believe, a big part of the reason why people
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: can't recognize how much better it is in 2026 compared
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: to 2023. But We're here doing our part. That's all
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: we got. We just got a microphone. We got two microphones,
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Christopher Thompson and mine.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: And a big trumpet.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Yes. And we put it out here on WSC down
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: in the low country and WVOC up here in the Midlands.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: And we hope that people can recognize that things are
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: moving in the right direction. And we hope that they'll
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: continue moving in the right direction. And a huge thing
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: would be for Congress to start cutting red tape. for
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: our EPA and that sort of stuff. So thoughts on that,
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: use the iHeartRadio talkback feature. It's now 738.
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: This is South Carolina's morning news on 103.5 FM and
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: 560 AM, WVOC, Columbia, and 94.3 WSC, Charleston.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: I don't remember what month it was after Donald Trump
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: became the president, but the border security announced they had
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: no But he'd get through. And Trump tweeted, turns out
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: we didn't need better border laws. We just needed a
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: better president. And I'm starting to feel the same way.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: This will be the second week in a row that
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: I think 60 Minutes is back. I mean, when Don
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: Hewitt was the producer of 60 Minutes for all those years.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: It was kind of like must-see TV for Americans. And
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: it has been a disaster for 20 years now. Ratings
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: are in the toilet. Nobody's watching. And then in June,
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: they hired a guy, I don't know anything about this guy,
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: Nick Bilton, to take it over. Now, Barry Weiss is,
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: and Barry's a female, Barry Weiss, who is a leftist,
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: but thought that the New York Times was going too
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: far left and started her own career. She's now the
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: head of the CBS News Department. She hired Nick Bilton.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: And his job, make 60 Minutes watchable.
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: Make it compelling.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: Make it interesting. Don't just make it a biased slam
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: fest against MAGA or whatever. Last week, well, first off,
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: remember Scott Pelley interrupted him. when he was introducing himself
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: to the staff and Scott Pelley's like, you have no
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: credentials and we are true journalists. And what the hell
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: do you know? And then built and took him aside
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: after the meeting and said, I mean, look, bro, you
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: can't just chop me off at the knees like that
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: in front of the staff.
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: I want to work with you.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: And he's like, I have no interest in working with
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: you because I'm a real journalist.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: Well then you're fired.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: Here's the door.
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Scott. We were hoping to work with you,
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: but that's not possible. Last week, I don't know if
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: we talked about it on this show, but the interview
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: that they did with DudeBravo44, the backseater, as he's explained,
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: who was rescued in Iran, that was the best thing
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: they've done in 20 years. And Nora O'Donnell did it, right?
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: In that piece and allow Americans to be very proud
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: of not just Dude Bravo 44, but the apparatus with
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Pete Hegseth at the helm to go and get him
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: and then to actually focus on the families and the
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: sacrifice that all military families make, all of them make.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Whenever you sign up for duty, it's just not you
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: making the sacrifice, although, of course, that is the ultimate
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: sacrifice potentially, but the entire family, moms, kids, everybody's sacrificing.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: And Americans need to be reminded of that. And they
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: were last week, thanks to that 60 Minutes interview. This week,
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: they've got clips coming out already. They're going to be
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: interviewing the husband, the now former husband of Lindsay Clancy.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: And this is just a snippet that they put out.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: When did they put this out? Late last night, I think.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: This is Dr. Rachel Dannis, who is Patrick Clancy's new wife.
• 48:43
  Speaker 8: I don't understand how the story has been so twisted,
• 48:47
  Speaker 8: but I would hope people know that Pat is, as
• 48:55
  Speaker 8: I said before, the most selfless father and supportive partner.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, they are shredding this guy on social media.
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: They're saying he did it.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: The fact that he married this woman shows that she's
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: in on it. I mean, this family is under massive attack.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: And so this is.
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: Going to be a great interview. I can't wait to
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: see it.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking forward to it, too. I mean, apparently
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: they're going to debunk a lot of the conspiracy theories
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: that are out there on social media.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: So it turns out you didn't need a new show.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: You just needed a new producer. So congratulations, 60 Minutes.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: I think you're back on the right track.
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: It is 747.
• 49:29
  Speaker 6: Live from the state capitol, this is South Carolina's Morning News.
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: Well, we have a.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: Little town here in the Midlands that's making some big news.
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: It's Chapin.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: And headline, is it legal for Chapin to shut off
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: the Facebook comments on the town council live streams? I
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: don't see why it wouldn't be. But, of course, we're
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: able to find people who want to sue or potentially sue.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: The state newspaper is interviewing an attorney named Jay Bender.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: who thinks that perhaps there is reason for a lawsuit here,
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: that somehow this is an impediment to your First Amendment rights.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: I would point out that if you went to the
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: town council meeting, if you were sitting there, you would
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: not be allowed to comment in real time. You could
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: like if Christopher Thompson is the council member and he's saying, well.
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: I think we should do that. He's an idiot.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: You would be removed immediately from the hall.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: True, but I'd get the comment off before I got
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: thrown out.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: Look, there's no impediment of your free speech is the
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: way I see this. If you want to take parts
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: of their Facebook video and then put it on, retweet
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: it onto your page and then make comments, you can
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: do that. You could just paraphrase what they said and
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: comment on it. The fact that you're not able to
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: comment in real time so that other people who may
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: be watching it could be distracted or could encourage it.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: As one of the people said, I just came here
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: for the comments. That's all I wanted to say. I'm
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: just here for the comments. So they're disappointed. Now, they
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: did try to have a meeting the other day, I guess,
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: but unfortunately they didn't have enough for a quorum. But
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: the comments were back on in that instance. They had
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: a meeting last night. Bender says citizens who aren't able
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: to comment on a live stream may have the basis
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: for a lawsuit for deprivation of free speech rights.
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: You can say whatever you want. Speak your truth.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: But you don't necessarily have to put it on Facebook.
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's never been a consistent court ruling on this.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, because there have been challenges before, for example—
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: a politician can certainly restrict who says something on their
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: personal page, but can I, can an elected politician do
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: that on their government page?
• 51:54
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: And if you're an elected official, my understanding is that
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: you can't shut down the comment section. But I'll also
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: point out that usually those types of, you know, The
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: comment section gets thousands of comments typically.
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: So nobody sees.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: Am I being deprived because my little free speech comment
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: wasn't in the top 10? I don't know. People are
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: very sensitive about their free speech, which they should be.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: But I don't know that being able to comment, I
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: should say, I don't know.
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: I do know.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: I don't believe that that is an impediment to your
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: free speech. You're more than welcome to comment on anything
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: that the politicians are doing. And if you feel impeded,
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: you should use the talkback feature here. We'd love to
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: put you on the radio. It's off the iHeartRadio app.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: We're back with more in just a minute. It's 7.55.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: This is South Carolina's Morning News.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: You know, when we get our news sources and comment
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: on stories, I like to give credit where credit's due,
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: and I have to congratulate NPR.
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: For coming up with this story.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: And it's talking about predatory lending when it comes to schools.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: And we're looking— I don't want to say it's a crisis,
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: but what we're looking at is pretty obviously predatory. They're
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: finding people to take loans— And then those people get
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: whatever they get. I'm not saying, I'm not saying I'm
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: not passing judgment on the schools per se, but the
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: kids who graduate don't pay back the loans for whatever reason,
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: or they don't even graduate.
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: And then who's left with the tab. It would be you.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: The taxpayer has to pay out that because this is
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: the federal student loan program. As, uh, The Project on
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: Predatory Student Lendings Executive Director Eileen Conner tells NPR, quote,
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: if the federal student loan program didn't exist, none of
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: these schools would exist. Why would any bank in the
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: world give or lend money to someone to go to
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: a school when it's nearly certain that they're never going
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: to repay it?
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: That's a great question. Nearly certain? Nearly certain. So what
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: is the repayment rate? Do we know?
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: Well, I can tell you I was stunned. To find.
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: This is amazing to me.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: The worst school in America is in Columbia, South Carolina.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: The construction training school, according to NPR, only about 12%
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: of the kids paid back their loans. Well over 80%
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: don't pay anything.
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: And if they're training in construction, you would think, I mean,
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: that would be an easy job to get where you
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: would be making a lot of money instantly and be
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: able to pay back those loans.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: 424 of the 500 schools listed are vocational schools.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: That's shocking.
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: That is shocking.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: Public schools accounted for just 15 on the list. 16
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: were private nonprofit schools. The average federal loan non-repayment rate
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: for all schools nationwide is 15%.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's sad.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: So we are, we've got the worst school in America
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: for paying back their student loans. That's incredible. Columbia, South
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: Carolina is top of the list. The second one is
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: something called Legends Barbershop Training School out in Texas.
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: So the legends are also about 80% of the kids
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: are not paying back or whatever. But this is, you know,
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: NPR reached out to the White House for comment. And,
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: you know, I appreciate the fact that they were able
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: to say, well, we have no specific comment on your story.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: We can refer you to the president's earlier comments regarding
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: degrees that don't pay. And so if these people are
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: graduating from the schools or unable to pay back their
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: loans or they're not able to make more money than
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: they would have made in high school, then we are
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: not going to federally guarantee these loans either moving forward.
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: So all these schools are going to be in big
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: trouble moving forward. Which, again, NPR, I'm glad that you
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: did this story. And I'm embarrassed that the worst school
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: happens to be in Columbia, South Carolina, out of the
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: whole flipping country.
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: Dang.
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: We almost.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: Had Legends Barber College in Texas beat us. But no,
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: we take the crown.
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at their Facebook page right now. Construction Training
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: School in Richland County provides training for students interested in
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: rod buster and form carpentry.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: By the way, I looked at it as well. That
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: photo that they use for their cover shot is horrific.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: You have like, it looks like 10 very disinterested people. Unmotivated,
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: disinterested people. just killing time. That's the best photo they
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: could have ran.
• 56:52
  Speaker 7: Wow.
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: All right. So I do have questions now about that school,
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: but maybe these kids aren't getting the skills they need
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: to work out of that school.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: Or it could be, I believe what the NPR story
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: is implying is that people, somebody is reaching out to
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: kids that are not going to go to school and saying, hey,
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: How'd you like to not have to work for another
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: couple of years? You just got to show up at
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: the school for a little while.
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: Meanwhile, we make some money off of you sitting there.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll give you your free lunches and whatnot.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: It gets people off your back because you're able to say,
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: I'm going to school or whatever. So Construction Training Center,
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: South Carolina, number one. Legends Barber College, number two. Diversified
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: Vocational College, California, three. The Networks Barber College in Illinois
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: is at number four. The Houston School of Carpentry, number
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: five in Texas. So, Texas, you got two on the board,
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: but you can't beat Columbia.
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: Well, I'll say this, too. We're setting a terrible example
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: by what we're doing nationally when it comes to debt.
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, everybody knows what, you know, our debt is
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: right now. And we just we laugh. We joke about it.
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: But nobody ever thinks about paying it back. So these
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: kids get that lesson. If they're aware of it.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know that the kids that looked like
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: in that photo weren't paying much attention to.
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: The federal debt.
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: But number two, the parents should be on that. I mean,
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: my parents stayed on me until I paid back every
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: dime of the student loans I took out. And I'm
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: doing the same to my daughter right now.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: Well, to that point, college was, if you were just
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: looking at rate of inflation and stuff, it's a, I
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: don't want to say a fraction, but it was significantly
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: less expensive using the 1980s dollars to the 2026 dollars.
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: Because again, 1990s, we started the federal loan program and.
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: Just said, take as much as you want.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: It's college.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: Does it cost a hundred grand? Does it cost a million?
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: Does it cost 10 million? Take as much as you want.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: Don't worry about it. You're going to be a trillionaire
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: when you graduate from college. And all these people go
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: through and they're like, I'm a barista now, bro. And
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: so we had a whole bunch of people saying, I
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: can't pay back my student loans. You got Joe Biden saying,
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: let's just give him a little break, a little breathing room.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: Why not address the issue that the college degree is
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: not for everybody? It's not for everybody. As a matter
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: of fact, it's probably... not for the majority of Americans.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: Great path to take. Most Americans who have college degrees
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: do not actually use those degrees in their profession now.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: The majority don't. So they could have actually ended up
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: in their career path without using all that debt.
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: But we're steering a lot of kids to vocational schools,
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: and you talked about how many vocational schools are on
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: that list.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: I would probably highly be cautious of barber schools. But, yeah,
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: if you're talking about a vocational school, I mean, we
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: have– go to Trident. That's a fantastic school. Trident Technical
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: College here in Columbia is doing a fantastic job.
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: Midlands Tech.
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: Midlands Tech. Yeah, we got a bunch of them where
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: the kids are, you know, or young men.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: A lot of these people are people who are 29, 30, 35, whatever.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: And they just realized, crap, I'm in the wrong career.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: Let me get over here and try to be a whatever,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: a welder or something to where I can make some money.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: So it is a great career shift for a lot
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: of people. But you also want to research the school
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: that you're going to go to. And again, if the
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: federal government's going to empower these people to rip off
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: the taxpayers, which that's what it looks like. If you're
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: asking me, does it look like, what does this say
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: right here? Percentage of the school revenue from the federal
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: sources at the Legends Barber College right now is at 70%.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: So 30% is supposed to come from the kids. They're
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: not paying any of it. And right now, the federal
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: loans and grants to the students, right now we owe $ 3, 472, 000.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: For a bunch of people who aren't cutting hair. So,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, that is us getting ripped off. That's us
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: getting ripped off. All right. My gosh, we ran long
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: on this break, Christopher.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: It's 8-11.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: You're listening to South Carolina's Morning News.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: All right. The statehouse is trying to get its arms
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: around artificial intelligence. 31 pieces of statehouse legislation proposed around
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: artificial intelligence this past session.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: Two became law.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: And so now we've got a special committee set up
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: to try to discuss, like, can you use it in
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: a political campaign? Can you use it in, like, therapy sessions? And,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: you know, if you needed mental health, can you use
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: AI to help with that? They have all kinds of
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: bills that people are proposing right now, trying to figure
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: out what you can and cannot use. By the way,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: I'll point out that AI campaigns that started this.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: Year, They sucked.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they weren't very good.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: I think Pamela Evett listens, and if she is, good morning.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: I like Pam.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: She's a lovely woman, and sometimes I see her at
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: Gamecock football games and other places. But the ad that
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: they did about Alan Wilson, I don't know who did it.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: It was horrible. It didn't even look like him at
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: some points. And so you didn't get your money's worth
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: on that one. That's what I would say about that one. But,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: and I, and it's AI is still at the point
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: where you can usually tell if it's not.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: Real, but don't you have to make it look a
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: little off in order to legally get it on the air?
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: According to this, we have no law. Okay.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: So there, like one of the proposals is you must
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: have a disclaimer. This ad created with artificial intelligence, um,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: You know, that would, I.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: Guess, mean something.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: Because a lot of people, if you say this came
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: from AI, their kind of alarm bells kind of go up. Or,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: you know, just a little bit more of their guard
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: is up when they see AI used it. And again,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: if you can make it look... Because it's getting better
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: every day.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: If they can make these things look and sound just
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: like the person that's allegedly in there, and you've got
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: them saying things that they didn't say, or you put
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: them out of context, like you take... like you could
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: have a setup question that wasn't the setup question. They're
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: responding to a different question. So it's actually their voice.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: This is what, this is what they said. This is
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: what candidate said. And then, but the question is completely different.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: And then it's looked like they look like a monster,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: but you know, I don't, I don't, I don't know
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: how we're going to stop it.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: That's the problem.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: They're there.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: They've got, they're in scramble mode trying to figure this
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: thing out, but.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: Well, they were in scramble mode last session, trying to
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: figure out data centers and got exactly nothing done on
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: data center. So, Who knows what they'll come up with here,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: if they come up with anything at all.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: Well, if you know your legislators, you ought to reach
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: out to them and maybe give.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: Them some of your insights if you have them.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: Or you know what?
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: You could just share it with Christopher Thompson and myself
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: on the Talkback feature.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: We'll put it out on the air.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: And I know a lot of these guys listen to us,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: gals as well. And so perhaps we can influence them
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: with your talkbacks. On the iHeartRadio app, it is 818.
• 1:03:56
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• 1:04:00
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• 1:04:10
  Speaker 9: Good morning, gentlemen. This is Christy from Mount Pleasant. That
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 9: AI political ad was from ROM Not Yet Ready. And
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 9: I think he made all of the candidates look off
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 9: because he's a very rich man and he didn't want.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 7: To get sued.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 9: So I think he was just protecting himself and doing that.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: Have a great day.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Christy in Mount Pleasant. I guess you could
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: put that Ram Reddy ad up there as one of the...
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: the bad AI ads. The one that I'm thinking of
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: was specifically targeting Alan Wilson from the Evit campaign. And
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: that was a horrible AI. And you know, then there's
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: ones where it's like, these weren't ads. I don't know
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: who came up with this one, but like the, what
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: was it called? It was like Reckham Ralph for Ralph Norman.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: Somebody was a pro Ralph Norman, either it was a
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: pack or just an individual made that Reckham Ralph ad.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: music video where Ralph Norman looks like he's like a
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: superhero and he's knocking things door and they have an
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: AI band playing with it and everything.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: That was pretty funny. I actually enjoyed that one. You
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: know what though?
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: I guess maybe it's, I enjoy more of the positive
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: ads than the negative ads.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: I think we're more influenced by the negative ads, but
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: I think we'd rather see the positive ads.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: And it maybe, maybe we'll start seeing AI candidates just
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: use AI to, put hair on their head or take
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: weight off their waist. I don't know. My gosh, that
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: person looks fit as a fiddle. Now, who would ever
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: thought they're running around doing their thing.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: Kelly, just, sorry, just got another talk back. It's a
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: little difficult to hear. So I'm going to translate here.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: The talk back says, where's darling Graham? All I see
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: is her opponent on TV every day, multiple times a day,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: and not a word from darling Graham. I hope she's
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: not pulling a Biden.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: She, um, Well, when it comes to advertising, that's, I mean,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: the Biden campaign advertised pretty robustly back in 2020. So again,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know if what the Graham campaign's budget is
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: and how they plan on spending their money advertising wise.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: I know that Annie Andrews got a ton of outside
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: money to start advertising. And so they're, you know, the
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: Democrats are hoping that because we don't have a legitimate incumbent,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: and I don't mean to diminish Darlene in any way,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: but a regular incumbent would be somebody who won that seat.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: And then they're like 90% likely to win it again,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: whether people like them or not. That's just the way
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: incumbency works. So they smell blood in the water, so
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: to speak. So I understand why the Andrews campaign is
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: going to advertise very aggressively because they're going to get
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: a lot of outside money to try to help. I
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: imagine though, that as we, you know, we're starting to
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: get on the back half of September. You'll start seeing
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: a lot more Darling Graham ads as we get into October,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: I would imagine.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 4: Oh, sure.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: And a lot more campaign events as well. The Senate
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: is in session right now, so she's busy in D.C.,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: but she will be back here soon, and we'll see
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: a lot both on air and her making her message
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: known around the state.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if the Talkback feature was talking about
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: Darlene Graham, personal appearances at, you know, town halls and stuff.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: Exactly your point. She is working right now up in D.C.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: So that makes it Annie Andrews has an unfair advantage
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: in that instance. And that I don't even know. I
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: know she's a pediatrician. Does she actually practice? I thought
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: I read something the other day where she hasn't practiced
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: in a while.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: She had stepped down, I think, from her job when
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: she started running.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So she's she's free to just, you know, be
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: a campaigner right now, which is, again, it's an advantage.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: but we'll see what happens here in the next few weeks.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: So a lot to be seen. Any more of your talkbacks?
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: We love it.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: Christopher and I do certainly appreciate them. We go through
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: all of them. You can use the microphone that you
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: find on the iHeartRadio app.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: It's 828.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 6: From the Midlands to the Lowcountry, this is South Carolina's
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 6: Morning News.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: Good morning.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: Welcome to Friday, 833. This is Kelly Nash, Christopher Thompson here.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: And, you know, I feel....
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: A little underprepared to talk about this, but I don't
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: know if that's by design, if that is what they
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  Speaker 2: want me to feel like. I'm looking at this story
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  Speaker 2: about Colleton County and Colleton County just passed earlier this
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  Speaker 2: week some rules at their county council regarding data centers.
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  Speaker 2: And it mentions in the story that after that vote,
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  Speaker 2: they were escorted by security and to their vehicles, that
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people were upset with them deciding that
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  Speaker 2: we couldn't have data centers in Colleton County. Now there's
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  Speaker 2: a new story here today from Live 5 News, and
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  Speaker 2: I feel like what we're getting is uninformed opinions dictating...
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  Speaker 2: feelings on both sides of the issue. So here's this
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  Speaker 2: is apparently a farmer in Colleton County who's who's this
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  Speaker 2: is his position.
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  Speaker 1: We ain't going to have no groundwater to suck out
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  Speaker 1: to irrigate. So it's going to be even worse for us.
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  Speaker 1: So what's going to happen then?
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  Speaker 8: The county's.
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  Speaker 2: So we're not going to have any groundwater. And then
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  Speaker 2: he goes on and he explains something about you're going
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  Speaker 2: to have no vegetables. Are you going to eat some
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  Speaker 2: of the vegetables and grow three eyes? I mean, this
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: is just what his mind is running to. And then
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  Speaker 2: on the other side, we have somebody saying the county
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: is so broke right now. If we don't fix it,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: we're not going to have a government because we don't
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  Speaker 2: have enough revenue to even fund a government. Never mind
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  Speaker 2: our children have zero future in Colleton. They can't make
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  Speaker 2: it in Colleton. They're going to have to go somewhere else.
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  Speaker 2: If you want to live, you're going to have to
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  Speaker 2: live outside of Colleton County. So these data centers are
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  Speaker 2: our only hope. So I feel like we have two
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  Speaker 2: extreme positions.
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  Speaker 3: Boy, those are both extremes.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. And then I go and I try to find
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  Speaker 2: the– and Christopher, you read the newspapers and stuff probably
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  Speaker 2: more than I do. But I've been trying to find
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  Speaker 2: what were the rules that Colleton County passed. And I've
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  Speaker 2: read four stories so far. None of them actually give
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  Speaker 2: me the rules that they've passed. So I'm reading WCIV.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: I'm reading the Post and Courier. I'm reading Live 5 News,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: all these outlets covering that story earlier this week. And
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  Speaker 2: they just talk about how outraged people were. There was
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: a six-month moratorium in place, but now that's out of,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they've They've restricted that now, and so it's
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  Speaker 2: opening it up for data centers.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't have a list of all the rules
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  Speaker 4: that they set.
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  Speaker 2: Like, I would think if I was on county council
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  Speaker 2: or city council, whatever you want to call it, you
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  Speaker 2: would have something in there like saying this amount of water, whatever.
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the two main things that Colleton County
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  Speaker 3: came up with is, all right, these are only going
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  Speaker 3: to exist in rural sections of the county, undeveloped areas
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  Speaker 3: where there aren't going to be a lot of residents
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  Speaker 3: to be bothered by it. And number two, yeah, we're
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  Speaker 3: going to monitor your energy and your water usage.
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  Speaker 2: So if that's the case, you know, somebody should be
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  Speaker 2: reminding the farmers, we're looking out for you. We're going
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  Speaker 2: to make sure that you have enough water to irrigate
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: your crops because we understand that people need to eat.
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  Speaker 2: And we also recognize that in Colleton County, agriculture is
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: right now our.
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  Speaker 3: Number one revenue.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And so we're going to do everything we can to
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  Speaker 4: look out for you.
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  Speaker 2: At the same time, to that other lady's concern, we
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  Speaker 2: believe that the data centers are going to bring a lot.
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  Speaker 4: Of tax revenue.
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  Speaker 2: We don't necessarily believe that they're going to hire a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people, although at the beginning they will hire
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  Speaker 2: some people to build it. But once it's built, there's
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  Speaker 2: not going to be a need for a lot of employees. However,
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  Speaker 2: we tax their revenues. So if they do a billion
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: dollars worth of business, we're taken. whatever it is, six,
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  Speaker 2: 7% of that. So we're going to get $ 60 million
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  Speaker 2: for Colleton County.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But to your point about her extreme, you're not going
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  Speaker 3: to be able to, the data centers are not going
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  Speaker 3: to be your whole tax base. If you're worried about
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  Speaker 3: the future existence of Colleton County, it's, you can't just
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  Speaker 3: do it by saying, okay, we're going to allow every
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  Speaker 3: inch of rural land we have to be taken up
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  Speaker 3: by data centers. That's, that's not a good business plan. No.
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  Speaker 4: And I, I'm assuming that you have found some of
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  Speaker 4: the rules.
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  Speaker 2: One of them you just said was it has to
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: be built in a rural area that's designated for this. So, no,
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  Speaker 2: they're not going to just be seizing homes and building
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: data centers on top of them. So, I mean, we
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  Speaker 2: have a lot of fear right now about data centers
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: and AI. And I think a lot of it is
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: just because people don't have the information. And in some instances,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's by design or not. So
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: we're trying to get as much of that information out
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: so that you can have a debate. And, again, everything's
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: worth debating. but understand what the parameters are. If they're
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: saying that we're going to protect the water, how are
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: they going to protect the water? All those types of things.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: You can delve into that, but understand that that is
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: what Colleton County is saying that they're doing and that's
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: what they're approving.
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  Speaker 4: If you don't agree with it, that's fine.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: And we'd love to know why you didn't agree with
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: If you know that they're protecting the water and they
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: are going to be adding to the tax base and
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: You can let us know on the Talk Back feature.
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  Speaker 4: It is 838.
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  Speaker 6: This is South Carolina's morning news on 103.5 FM and
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 6: 560 AM. WVOC, Columbia and 94.3 WSC, Charleston.
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  Speaker 2: All right. So I'm looking here. What is it?
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 4: The Post and Courier's got a story on.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: How we're going to spend $ 610, 000 to try to, well,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: I guess it's free. If you own a pit bull,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: you can bring it in. Should pay for about 2,500 dogs,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: according to the governor's office. If you own a pit bull,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: they'll spay or neuter it for free.
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  Speaker 4: And I just don't know why. I know Beth.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: Bernstein is one of the sponsors of that earmark. And
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: do we have a pit bull problem? I guess we do.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: I'm not arguing with the numbers. But the idea that
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  Speaker 2: the reason that they're not being spayed and neutered is
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: because the people can't afford to spay and neuter them
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: seems ludicrous to me. I will point out that if
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: you were to look at Greenville County last year, they
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: passed basically tighter ordinance regulations. Meaning that if you have
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: a pit bull, you're going to be under much stricter watch.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: They passed their ordinance 5705, May 6, 2025. That was
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: a unanimous vote. And if you look at the, they're
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: already having big effects. So up in Greenville County, why
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: not just copy and paste that? Just copy and paste it.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: We're just enforcing laws. We're just, we're just making sure
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: that if you own a dog, um, that you're going
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: to be watched. You understand that? And if you get
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: out of line, you're going to pay the price. If
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: your dog goes out there on the streets and attacks somebody,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: of course you're going to be in trouble. But also,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: if your dog is not spayed and neutered and goes
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: out there and starts trying to make little puppies, you're
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: going to be held in some big trouble. And again,
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  Speaker 2: I'm looking at, when you look at just beginning at
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: the baseline, 2007, 90% of the dogs that came into
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: Greenville had to be euthanized. Um, right now they've, they're
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: down about 70% on pit bulls one year into it.
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  Speaker 3: That's fantastic.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So Greenville, Greenville already cracked the code. Greenville cracked the
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: code and didn't cost any money.
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  Speaker 3: So why do we need 600, what, $ 10, 000 in taxpayer
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: money to do the same?
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  Speaker 2: In the hopes that the, again, who are the people
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: that are having the problems with the pit bulls? Let's
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: just be honest. I mean, it's not the app. Like
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  Speaker 2: I know people who might have pit bulls and those
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: pit bulls are fine. Pit bulls are not, necessarily aggressive animals.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: If they're trained properly, they can be fantastic dogs. It's
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: the people who are attracted to them because they want
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: to do dangerous things. So those are the people that
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: you're asking to come in and get their dog spayed
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: and neutered. They don't want them spayed and neutered. They
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: want to have more of them so they can have
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: more fights. That's the reality of the situation. So just
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: crack down on that. Don't expect the taxpayers to start
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: funding This is just another, to me, a bloated government program.
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  Speaker 3: And an earmark that's going towards a nonprofit, which I
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: thought we had a rule against that. I guess starting
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: next year, they will say, if you're a nonprofit, you
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: have to have a local government step forward and sponsor
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: you before you can get taxpayer money. But that's a
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: whole other issue. But yeah, I mean, there's so much
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: bloat in these earmarks, which is why so many people,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: including the Senate, were against them. and relented eventually, and
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: the House made a deal with them.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we'll see how many of the folks take us
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: up on the offer to come in with their free
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: spade and neutered pit bulls. That's what we're thinking about it.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: What are you thinking about it? You can let us
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: know on the Talk Back feature. We'll take a break
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: and be back with our final segment.
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  Speaker 4: It's 847.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 6: Live from the state capitol, this is South Carolina's Morning News.
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  Speaker 2: All right, I just checked the gas price averages. If
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: you're in Columbia, it's about $ 4. 11 per gallon. If you're
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: down in the Charleston area, it's $ 4.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 4: 16 per gallon.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: So you people listening to us on 94.3 WSC, you
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: ought to come up here to fill up.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: You ever been with anybody who's like, I'm going to
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: drive five miles to save a dollar or whatever?
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 4: It's crazy, but hey.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: Anyway, I know some of you will be making your
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: trip up here to watch the Mississippi State Bulldogs and
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: the South Carolina Gamecocks make their league play debut. Gamecocks
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: go in. I think it's still three and a half
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: point favorites right now.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: Which, for a home team, is not much. It's about
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: a half a point difference. Yeah, I was going to say,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: they normally give you a three-point favorite. Christopher, I'm looking
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: at the weather. Now, again, this is all the accuracy
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: of whatever my Google Pixel phone is offering. But it
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: says for Saturday... the highest opportunity for rain would be
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: at 4 PM. And it also comes with a high
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: likelihood of thunderstorms. Now it drops to 45% at the
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: five o'clock hour, and then it's back to like 20%
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: for the rest.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: Of the night. So we may end up with a
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: night game because, you know, if you get those lightning strikes,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: it's what is it?
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: The 30 minute delay delay.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: And then maybe another delay if there's another strike in
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: the area. So who knows?
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: One of being over an hour last weekend, but.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: I think we have good weather for the most part for,
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: the pregame show, which will be happening across the street
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: on Bluff Road. It looks like we're going to be
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: in the low 90s, upper 80s for most of that.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: That kicks off at 1 o'clock tomorrow on our home
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: station of WVOC.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: And I'm looking at SC's forecast for the Charleston area.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: Patchy fog, then showers likely tomorrow, so... It sounds like
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: we're all going to be dodging a little bit of
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: rain here and there, and maybe a storm, too, before
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: the day's out.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: But, again, encourage you, if you're a Gamecock fan, to
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: be listening to WVOC before the game, three hours before kickoff.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: Christopher Thompson hosts the best Gamecock coverage with John Whittle,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: and then I'll be there for a little while as well.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: So we always have a lot of fun on Saturdays.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 5: We do.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: Right across the street, in the shadow of Williams-Brice. from
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: the very.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 4: Prestigious gas station.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: The Sharp Shop.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: The Sharp Shop on Bluff Road. We've been doing that
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: for years. We love it over there. And we'd love
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: to meet you. So if you happen to be coming
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: to a home game, come on by and say hi
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: to us.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 4: We won't talk politics, probably.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: We'll talk just Gamecock football with you at that point.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: All right. It's Friday. Have a great weekend. We'll be
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: back Monday morning, 6 o'clock. Hopefully both the Tigers and
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: the Gamecocks can be celebrating wins then.