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Chuck & Buck 1-20 Hour 3: Gene Steratore, Everett Fitzhugh and Kupp's wisdom... · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Here's Checking Buck.
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Speaker 2: Good morning, see you Wednesday. Excuse me a Tuesday here
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Speaker 2: chalking back? Didn't mean to skip ahead.
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Speaker 3: Maybe we're just that excited about Seahawks rams coming up
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Speaker 3: that I tried to get us.
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Speaker 2: A day ahead. But it is a Tuesday.
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Speaker 3: And of course Jeane Stertor has been joining us every
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Speaker 3: Tuesday all football season long. He is the greatest NFL
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Speaker 3: official of all time. CBS rules analyst right now. You
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Speaker 3: hear him every weekend. He's part of your football lives
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Speaker 3: every weekend, and we get him every Tuesday at eight o'clock.
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Speaker 4: Good morning, Jake, Good morning, Chucking Buck. How are you, fellows?
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Speaker 2: We're doing all right? You survive, You survive the weekend
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Speaker 2: of cotton Man.
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Speaker 4: It's just kind of a rather uneventful weekend. I mean
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Speaker 4: it slept like a baby. Yeah, nothing to see here, exactly.
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Speaker 3: Well, I do want to get into, particularly your game,
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Speaker 3: the Broncos Bills game on Saturday, because that's the most
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Speaker 3: interesting thing from the weekend. But I want to get
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Speaker 3: your thoughts first though on the National Championship game last night.
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Speaker 3: We were just discussing in our previous segment. Man, did
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Speaker 3: they let him play last night? I mean, that's the
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Speaker 3: most pass interference that I've ever seen go uncalled, maybe
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Speaker 3: in any game I've ever watched, And yet I was
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Speaker 3: okay with it because they didn't change the way they
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Speaker 3: were calling it. Geene, they clearly were letting them play
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Speaker 3: last night. Did you think that that was fair or
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Speaker 3: do you think that was a mistake.
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Speaker 4: You know, I'm with you on the consistency aspect, right,
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Speaker 4: I get that, and quite frankly, you know, I always
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Speaker 4: tried to have that feeling with the crew, not in
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Speaker 4: the playoffs different than the regular season, but really try
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Speaker 4: to get that philosophy of let's make these files big,
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Speaker 4: let players play and make plays, and try to really
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Speaker 4: try to inject that philosophy in your crew as early
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Speaker 4: as you can, and then hope that the crew itself
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Speaker 4: starts to buy into that. It's difficult in an officiating
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Speaker 4: football scenario a lot different from me than basketball. Basketball,
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Speaker 4: you could mold games because you were in proximity as
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Speaker 4: one of the three officials that if you felt a
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Speaker 4: play wasn't being ruled consistent to what happened maybe three
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Speaker 4: minutes before, you can have that little later whistling come
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Speaker 4: from a distance to get a play that you quite
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Speaker 4: humbly felt fit the play that happened two minutes earlier.
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Speaker 4: The football field is too wide, quite frankly, a lot
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Speaker 4: of officials don't even see what kind of ruling was
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Speaker 4: made on a play because of the distances. So it
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Speaker 4: is more challenging than maybe some of the other sports,
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Speaker 4: like a baseball umpire staying consistent with his person stripe
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Speaker 4: zone for the day. So there are more challenges in
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Speaker 4: football to be consistent. But that's where the training and
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Speaker 4: the elite level occurs. I did think last night, yes
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Speaker 4: they did let them play. However, I did think there
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Speaker 4: has to be a line as well. I thought coach
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Speaker 4: Signetty at halftime really worded it in a really good way.
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Speaker 4: I thought there was a target on the hit on
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Speaker 4: Mendoza after the handoffs. That was targeting. That's all has
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Speaker 4: to be called, right, So now you miss it regardless
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Speaker 4: of the physicality here, we can't let those go. So
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Speaker 4: and I do think there were more than likely maybe
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Speaker 4: one or two of those pis that sell in the
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Speaker 4: category of Look, we are allowing you guys to play
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Speaker 4: a man's game tonight, but this is taking it. We've
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Speaker 4: taken two bits out of the apple, like we went
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Speaker 4: too far here, get that one. So you know you
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Speaker 4: live in that world, and hey, it's so much easier
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Speaker 4: guys to sit on the couch and do this. It's hard.
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Speaker 4: It's a hard business. There are different tentacles to plays.
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Speaker 4: There were a couple of times when Indiana receivers were
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Speaker 4: putting their hands out and kind of initiating not separation,
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Speaker 4: but initiating what we would call the beginnings of what
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Speaker 4: hand fighting would be. Right, So, now I've got a
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Speaker 4: receiver that voluntarily put his hands on a defensive back's chest,
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Speaker 4: and now that defensive back is trying to fight and
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Speaker 4: pull that arm off of his chest. And now we
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Speaker 4: look at the isolated play and go, dude, he's grabbing
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Speaker 4: his arm and pulling a time. I know, but how
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Speaker 4: did his arm get there?
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Speaker 5: Oh?
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Speaker 4: Well, two frames before the receiver put his arm in
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Speaker 4: his chest. Okay, well then I want to let him
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Speaker 4: grab his arm and get it off of his chest.
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Speaker 4: It just so happened the Bault might have been getting there.
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Speaker 4: So there are so many layers to that. And then
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Speaker 4: when you watch these plays, I can tell you from
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Speaker 4: an analyst viewpoint, and I you know, I hear the vitriol,
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Speaker 4: especially after Now you know Sarator agrees with an eighty
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Speaker 4: five ninety percent of time. That's because quite frankly, I
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Speaker 4: think they're probably right eighty five or ninety percent of
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Speaker 4: the time. Whether you like that or not is your
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Speaker 4: own personal opinion. But there are also layers to play.
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Speaker 4: But you guys hit it in the earlier block.
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Speaker 5: It's it's a.
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Speaker 4: Consistency thing within a parameter where we don't want to
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Speaker 4: see it go too far right. And that's that's that window.
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Speaker 4: And it's hard, it's really hard. This is not an
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Speaker 4: easy business. And we know that scrutiny and social media
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Speaker 4: has allowed everyone to be the voice of reason and
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Speaker 4: you know such just educational like tweeting. You know, it's
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Speaker 4: it becomes such a hate field space. Yeah, we all
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Speaker 4: have this ability to do this from the comfort of
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Speaker 4: our homes and it's part of the business. You embrace it.
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Speaker 3: Are you saying that my life wasn't as stressful sitting
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Speaker 3: there with my beer, am I nachos on my comfy
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Speaker 3: chair as it was for officials this weekends.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but yet you'll have these millions of human beings
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Speaker 4: that consider on their accounts and go, dude, that's easy.
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Speaker 4: That's a foul.
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Speaker 6: I know.
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Speaker 4: Let's go work the seventh grade basketball this afternoon at
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Speaker 4: three o'clock and then we'll sit after the game and
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Speaker 4: we can talk about how easy it was, you know.
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Speaker 4: But again, it's part of the business. You live with it.
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Speaker 3: I know, Bucky, we want to got to get to
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Speaker 3: the Broncos game. But you had said something and I
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Speaker 3: think it does need to be brought up here about
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Speaker 3: that roughing where the call that where he got hitting
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Speaker 3: a chin and they didn't call it. Isn't it in
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Speaker 3: college football though, that if you have a play like that,
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Speaker 3: not only even if you missed it, you can stop
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Speaker 3: it and review targeting.
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Speaker 2: Can't you review targeting in college football?
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Speaker 7: Or?
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Speaker 2: Am I just way off base on this?
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Speaker 6: No?
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Speaker 4: You're a hundred percent right, which was protecting to me?
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Speaker 2: Okay?
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Speaker 4: For that reason, Yes, there also is a window and
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Speaker 4: RG three created this window in the NFL level when
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Speaker 4: the RPO started to become the flavor of the year, right,
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Speaker 4: and it's grown, and we did have some challenges to
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Speaker 4: adapt to that style, kind of like the old Belly series.
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Speaker 4: Playfake and then I pulled the ball out and have
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Speaker 4: it or I may not have it right, and just
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Speaker 4: decision is being made not on a design play, but
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Speaker 4: on the feel from the quarterback exchange of the back
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Speaker 4: and now you have a defensive player coming untouched to
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Speaker 4: that mesh point and now the quarterback let's go of
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Speaker 4: the football and gets completely blasted right after he lets
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Speaker 4: go and looking like I don't have the ball. Well,
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Speaker 4: we did develop mechanically and spoke to teams during that
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Speaker 4: and it was Robert Griffith that really kind of dictated
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Speaker 4: that conversation in the preseason that year after we saw
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Speaker 4: it her that after that mesh point, if you let
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Speaker 4: the ball go in your quarterback, you better step away
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Speaker 4: and let that defensive player know as quickly as you
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Speaker 4: can that you don't have it. But if he's already
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Speaker 4: committed to you when you went through the mesh point,
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Speaker 4: your fair game. Now, last night's play, there was a
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Speaker 4: window of space there that defensive player, in my opinion,
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Speaker 4: took the moment, not that he was defenseless either. If
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Speaker 4: Mendoza is not defenseless in that play, that play fell
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Speaker 4: into a crown of the helmet hit, I thought, So
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Speaker 4: it's irrelevant about the mesh point on that play. But
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Speaker 4: there's tentacles into that. How you define who the player
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Speaker 4: that got hit was. Was he defenseless or was he
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Speaker 4: part of a running play? We're still fair game. And
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Speaker 4: even if Mendoz was fair game last night after he
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Speaker 4: let the ball go and it was a very quick
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Speaker 4: hit afterward where the contact occurred with the crown of
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Speaker 4: the helmet of the defensive player to Mendoz's body and
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Speaker 4: it didn't even have to be in this head neck area.
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Speaker 4: That's the crown of the helmet targeting, which you're corrected
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Speaker 4: saying replace these that on a review replay review, it
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Speaker 4: stopped the game. Yeah, bring the ref over. It's targeting. Unfortunately,
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Speaker 4: it's the National Championship. I get it, but that's that's
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Speaker 4: the rule and you knew it, so you got to go.
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Speaker 4: So yeah, I think they missed that, all.
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Speaker 8: Right, Gean Well, in the Broncos Bills game that you
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Speaker 8: were working. I mean we you know, I heard what
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Speaker 8: you had said, and yet I think some more clarification.
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Speaker 8: You don't have enough time during the broadcast to really
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Speaker 8: clarify why you think or how you come to the
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Speaker 8: point of the brand Cooks McMillan. The interception that was
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Speaker 8: in overtime, it seems like the right call in my opinion,
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Speaker 8: not just because I'm a Bronco fan, but it does
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Speaker 8: seem like it's the right call. And yet maybe you
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Speaker 8: can explain why they called that an interception.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Bucky, And you're right, I didn't get a lot
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Speaker 4: of time and looked to be critical in some ways
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Speaker 4: in that regard, I think the play in real time
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Speaker 4: doesn't look like that heart of a play that back
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Speaker 4: Judge Scott Elberson has been in that the league twenty
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Speaker 4: five plus years. He didn't hesitate, it was a tight play.
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Speaker 4: He ruled on it like you would expect the championship
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Speaker 4: official to rule on it, and really was confident as hell.
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Speaker 4: And I thought he got it right. And I think
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Speaker 4: in real time, I think, to me, it doesn't look
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Speaker 4: that difficult. We now have transferred into this whole world
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Speaker 4: of frame by frames of pruder film I can show
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Speaker 4: you a still shot where his knees on the ground,
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Speaker 4: he has the football. What's going on with you people?
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Speaker 4: And this distortion of reality? A frame by frame reviewing
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Speaker 4: which I've been on the pulpit about for five years now,
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Speaker 4: in how subjectivity in a play that requires time to
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Speaker 4: make a final assessment could not be slowed down below
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Speaker 4: a certain percentage. That should be a percentage that officials
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Speaker 4: can digest and be accurate in real time. But reviewing
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Speaker 4: should fall in that category as well. I think we
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Speaker 4: need to have that discussion. I also think that a
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Speaker 4: play of that magnitude for a referee to understand that
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Speaker 4: play ends in real time. Right, it's forty five years
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Speaker 4: away from the ref the white hat who doesn't see it.
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Speaker 4: He hears a whistle, he sees his stampionship back judge
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Speaker 4: go both it's an interception. He's running down the field
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Speaker 4: because the change of possession's taking place of looking at
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Speaker 4: that back judge, because you know that he's given the signal.
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Speaker 4: Now that back judge shows that referee, Hey, Carl, I've
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Speaker 4: got an interception. It's tight, and we know it's a turnover,
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Speaker 4: and we know it's tight, and we know the world
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Speaker 4: we live in now, the chatter starts in your ear,
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Speaker 4: it's replaced saying slow down, it's a turnover. We're looking
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Speaker 4: at it. Just take your time down, slow down, don't
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Speaker 4: start the next snap. We're looking at it because we can.
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Speaker 4: I think production, presentation, credibility, trust, and the things that
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Speaker 4: should apply at that point that play in that game,
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Speaker 4: on that stage, and what it meant you stop that game.
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Speaker 4: If you're the white hat, you press your button and
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Speaker 4: you tell New York I get it. We're looking and
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Speaker 4: I want to look too. Because Carl Scheffer's never saw
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Speaker 4: that play. He hasn't seen that play and gave a
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Speaker 4: pool report after the game more than likely and never
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Speaker 4: saw the play. He's the referee of the game. You're
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Speaker 4: the referee of the game. I have skin in this game.
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Speaker 4: I did that in Super Bowl fifty two with the
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Speaker 4: zach Ertz touchdown that went over, and had an extended
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Speaker 4: conversation during that particular play and weighed in, you know,
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Speaker 4: and at some point when the book comes out, I
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Speaker 4: weighed in, right. I mean, but I do think for
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Speaker 4: the rhythm of the game, the magnitude of the play,
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Speaker 4: the trusts, the things that should happen and the fact
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Speaker 4: that you are the referee of this game. I want
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Speaker 4: you looking at the iPad. I want you collaborating with
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Speaker 4: New York. I don't think the play was ruled incorrectly whatsoever.
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Speaker 4: I thought the optics of it. I thought the fact
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Speaker 4: that we stood there for thirty seconds in limbo and
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Speaker 4: then just moved on like it was just another quick play.
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Speaker 4: It wasn't to the point that Sean McDermott knew they
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Speaker 4: did review it. I get it. I get the way
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Speaker 4: the rhythm goes. But I'm calling one of my time
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Speaker 4: outs here because I want you to come and talk
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Speaker 4: to me, referee, right, I mean, I get it. So
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Speaker 4: I don't think the play was produced the right way,
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Speaker 4: if that makes sense, And that's my yeah. So I
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Speaker 4: do think there was a misstep there. And as you said, Bucky,
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Speaker 4: it put me in a heck of a box kind
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Speaker 4: of from the analyst's chair, because now you are getting
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Speaker 4: to see this play maybe twice, maybe twice, and Tony
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Speaker 4: or Jimmer looking like Gino. What do they have here? Man?
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Speaker 4: You want to talk about like fifteen seconds of some
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Speaker 4: anxiety because you've gotten two quick peaks of this and
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Speaker 4: you know what starts to come out of your mouth
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Speaker 4: now is living for forever and you do want to
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Speaker 4: be right, So it didn't. It made my position a
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Speaker 4: little more challenging there to try to get as much
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Speaker 4: info as I could in a fifteen second window, But
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Speaker 4: there just wasn't a pond to do that right. And
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Speaker 4: so what you would hope in this beautiful world of
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Speaker 4: social media we live in, because you couldn't do it
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Speaker 4: on air for the right reasons, that maybe at the
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Speaker 4: end of the game, to educate all of these amazing
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Speaker 4: fans that love the game and really do want to
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Speaker 4: know why it was ruled that way that you put
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Speaker 4: a sweet out. Now you know it gets seven million views,
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Speaker 4: six million, seven hundred thousand of them. Are you know,
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Speaker 4: where do you live? What's your address? We want to
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Speaker 4: come and visit you, you know, and all that good stuff.
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Speaker 4: But it's part of the business. But I do think
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Speaker 4: they got to play correct. I don't think they presented
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Speaker 4: to play in a way that we should expect that
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Speaker 4: play to be presented.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you on both those fronts, but
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Speaker 3: I will ask this because this is the way life works.
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Speaker 3: I mean, you're already as the NFL living with that
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Speaker 3: play and you got half the football fans angry at
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Speaker 3: you for how the play was was called and then
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Speaker 3: sure enough to make your lives more difficult as official
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Speaker 3: Sunday Night Davante Adams. Yeah, he goes down, has it
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Speaker 3: taken away? And I see the difference between the two,
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Speaker 3: and I think they got them both right. But I
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Speaker 3: do understand how it's difficult for people fans out there
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Speaker 3: to see the difference between the two.
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Speaker 2: So explain it to us.
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Speaker 4: That's what we need to do. That's in that I
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Speaker 4: quite frankly will take on as somewhat of a challenge
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Speaker 4: here for my role now as it sits. I don't
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Speaker 4: know that we've educated the country enough in this crazy
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Speaker 4: frame by frame nuance as to how we're getting these
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Speaker 4: decisions constantly, because they are twelve second hits, right, and
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Speaker 4: everybody's sick of here in possession two feet a third step,
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Speaker 4: we're time to make a football. I get worried about
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Speaker 4: being redundant on air saying that all the time, so
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Speaker 4: people were thinking on their couch. Well, he shut up.
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Speaker 4: We know what the three steps are. Within all of that, though,
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Speaker 4: we have to show these differences when Cooks possesses the
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Speaker 4: football he's airborne. When Cooks comes back to earth, he's falling.
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Speaker 4: He is never a runner. He is a falling, airborne
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Speaker 4: possessed pass receiver who is falling. He has to show
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Speaker 4: the referee the football at the end of the play,
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Speaker 4: get up and give him the ball. I ruled Calvin
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Speaker 4: Johnson's catch. I ruled Dez Bryant's catch. I ruled Zach
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Speaker 4: Ertz's touchdown. You got to hand me the football, okay,
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Speaker 4: Like you got to survive the ground. You were landing
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Speaker 4: and never ran. So there are parts of that play
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Speaker 4: by the rule and the delicate and detailed way it
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Speaker 4: has to be written for these reasons that you have
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Speaker 4: to do that. And Cook's play, he's falling to the ground.
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Speaker 4: That wasn't ripped out from him after he laid on
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Speaker 4: the ground for the sended period of time with possession,
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Speaker 4: which would have been much shown and been like, no, dude,
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Speaker 4: you ripped the ball out of it after he was
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Speaker 4: laying there for three seconds. It's over. It wasn't. It
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Speaker 4: didn't happen that way. You didn't survive the ground, and
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Speaker 4: he did. He stole it from you and survived the ground.
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Speaker 4: That's your play. DeVante Adams is possessing that football while
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Speaker 4: he's standing. So now he possesses the football on two
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Speaker 4: feet on the ground, gets two feet down immediately on possession,
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Speaker 4: gets smashed and sandwiched, and now starts to get tackled.
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Speaker 4: In that little piece of the third element, he does
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Speaker 4: start to be tackled to the ground. There is subjectivity
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Speaker 4: in was there enough time for the third element there
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Speaker 4: or was him falling to the ground on his knee
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Speaker 4: with possession? Does that count as this whole football piece
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Speaker 4: of move that we digest and say no, that puts
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Speaker 4: him down by contact. Look, I was sitting there quietly
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Speaker 4: digestic Saturday's game when I finally got home, and when
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Speaker 4: that play hit, my phone exploded almost equally as it
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Speaker 4: did the night before because of that. So you are
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Speaker 4: looking at them and trying to get some clarity and
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Speaker 4: something that will define it so that people don't just say, dude,
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Speaker 4: you're just spinning stuff.
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Speaker 5: You're a shill.
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Speaker 4: That's where I saw the difference, and I think there
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Speaker 4: is a difference there. It's close as heck, though, right,
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Speaker 4: I think the third element's really close. I feel okay
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Speaker 4: with the way that Adams possessed the football starting to
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Speaker 4: get tackled knees down. He's fighting for a piece of
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Speaker 4: that within this fraction of a second and you rip
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Speaker 4: it out after his knees down. But he caught the
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Speaker 4: ball on his steet and you're tackling him. Now, okay,
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Speaker 4: that's a catch, and you're down by contact, right, So
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Speaker 4: I think there are distinct differences. I do think it's
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Speaker 4: incumbent upon us to try to elaborate this to the
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Speaker 4: two hundred level the three hundred level football fan that
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Speaker 4: gets it but needs to dodge. I don't make these rules,
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Speaker 4: but you do want to try to put them in
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Speaker 4: a box that allows people to look and maybe have
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Speaker 4: that cool conversation in a living room with a group
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Speaker 4: of people like, oh, well that back again, let's talk
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Speaker 4: about that, and then maybe the game becomes acceptable, or
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Speaker 4: these rules become something that helped the game, or the
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Speaker 4: technology does as opposed to what we're seeing now, which
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Speaker 4: is just you know, a million officials that screened at
18:26
Speaker 4: me in all these stadiums now have the platform to
18:28
Speaker 4: put it on your phone all the time. You know,
18:31
Speaker 4: on Tuesday at noon. It's just that world. But yeah,
18:34
Speaker 4: you know it is what it is.
18:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I would love to have the conversation with
18:38
Speaker 3: you about PI calls late in games, but I don't
18:41
Speaker 3: think that we have time to get into that because
18:44
Speaker 3: that's probably a lengthy discussion, so we'll go ahead and
18:49
Speaker 3: save that for another time. But I understand it better.
18:53
Speaker 3: I think that you explained it perfectly.
18:55
Speaker 2: I really do.
18:56
Speaker 3: And I think that whoever was listening and was a
19:00
Speaker 3: little you know, tossed up over you know, how that
19:03
Speaker 3: went that way and how that didn't go that way, should,
19:07
Speaker 3: I think.
19:08
Speaker 2: Have a better understanding of why it went did go down.
19:10
Speaker 3: So those things that those those two calls, I'm with you.
19:14
Speaker 2: I think that, and you explained it very well. For
19:16
Speaker 2: everybody out there.
19:18
Speaker 4: I appreciate that, Fellaws. We're trying to do the best
19:21
Speaker 4: we can. And for the next ten or fifteen voice
19:24
Speaker 4: bills that I get, chuck off forward a couple two
19:26
Speaker 4: you my man, and I'll let you guys answer them.
19:29
Speaker 4: How's that? Yeah?
19:30
Speaker 5: Yeah?
19:31
Speaker 3: And as a public service announcement for the good of humanity, please,
19:36
Speaker 3: it's not blowing up jeans Twitter with your nonsense.
19:44
Speaker 4: As my late father used to say, publicity, publicity, kid,
19:48
Speaker 4: if they know your name, just relaxed. That's how he
19:51
Speaker 4: got me into officiating because I was a ten year
19:53
Speaker 4: old go into his college basketball games and crying in
19:56
Speaker 4: the corner of the way home like that they hate you.
19:58
Speaker 4: I can see him looking at the rearview mirror my
20:01
Speaker 4: little face, like, listen, did they know your name? I said, yeah,
20:04
Speaker 4: it's the same as yours. He goes, if they know
20:06
Speaker 4: your name, everything's okay. Why that sounded like it was
20:09
Speaker 4: okay when I was said, I don't know, but look
20:12
Speaker 4: what it's done to me fifty years later.
20:14
Speaker 2: Yes, you know, yeah, exactly. I get your dad was
20:17
Speaker 2: already in it. You had a chance to avoid.
20:19
Speaker 4: It, exactly. Every time he tried to get out, they
20:23
Speaker 4: pulled him back in. I didn't realize he was part
20:25
Speaker 4: of the Godfather one and two and I just ended
20:28
Speaker 4: up with three and four. That was it.
20:30
Speaker 2: But that's his life, all right.
20:33
Speaker 3: Well, we'll talk to you again next week and hopefully
20:36
Speaker 3: a smoother weekend for you, sir.
20:39
Speaker 4: Yes, well, as it listens, huge shout out to the
20:42
Speaker 4: to the twelfth person in Seattle, to that team, to
20:46
Speaker 4: the way they performed last week. I mean, if you're
20:49
Speaker 4: not fully blown excited right now for that product right
20:52
Speaker 4: now and the way that team is playing. What a
20:56
Speaker 4: great time. I am sure you all are happening in
20:58
Speaker 4: the upper and the great northwester now for the right reasons,
21:01
Speaker 4: and you know why. It'll be a great NFC West
21:03
Speaker 4: showdown the way it should be this season. So good
21:06
Speaker 4: luck to everybody out that way, and we'll talk to
21:09
Speaker 4: you next Tuesday.
21:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, it should be a great game on Sunday. As
21:12
Speaker 2: long as Clay Martin doesn't blow.
21:14
Speaker 4: It, he'll be fine. Don't worry, he'll be fine.
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Speaker 2: You, who joins us again here today? Hello, su, Good morning.
22:43
Speaker 5: How are you doing today?
22:44
Speaker 2: We're doing all right.
22:45
Speaker 3: I mean, we got a really hot football team that's
22:48
Speaker 3: getting ready for some really big football games here in
22:52
Speaker 3: the next few weeks.
22:54
Speaker 2: Are you switched on like the plural Yeah?
22:56
Speaker 5: I like the plural Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Useul plural pluralism, pluralization.
23:00
Speaker 5: Yep.
23:02
Speaker 3: But in the meantime, our hockey team has gone ice
23:06
Speaker 3: cold again, fourth consecutive loss last night. They've lost six
23:11
Speaker 3: of our last seven. Everett, what on earth has gone
23:13
Speaker 3: wrong this time?
23:16
Speaker 4: Yeah?
23:16
Speaker 5: I think dark politification again. He had to go get
23:20
Speaker 5: some family time you know what, man, It's funny because
23:26
Speaker 5: I was talking to Alan Jat about this. Lane the
23:29
Speaker 5: other day. We were talking and he said that with
23:33
Speaker 5: everyone being healthy, the crack of them only played four
23:35
Speaker 5: games this year, and they've been the last four games
23:38
Speaker 5: that they've all been one hundred percent healthy, that all
23:42
Speaker 5: skaters have been one hundred percent healthy. So Lane made
23:48
Speaker 5: a comment that it's almost kind of like going back
23:51
Speaker 5: to training camp a little bit because you're trying to
23:53
Speaker 5: build that chemistry. And you've heard some of Lane's comments
23:57
Speaker 5: postgame the last couple of games where it's been you know,
24:00
Speaker 5: there there needs to be a tougher mentality and the
24:03
Speaker 5: starts haven't been as good. I need guys to start
24:07
Speaker 5: shooting the puck more. These are things that we were
24:09
Speaker 5: talking about beginning of the year when the Cracket were
24:12
Speaker 5: going on that uh, that slump before they went on
24:15
Speaker 5: that team game points streak. We're seeing a lot of
24:18
Speaker 5: those same issues, you know, rearing their ugly heads once again.
24:21
Speaker 5: So I think that there's just a lot of small
24:25
Speaker 5: areas that the Cracking had been falling victim to. They
24:28
Speaker 5: have allowed a short handed goal in the last three games.
24:31
Speaker 5: There have been some I mean if I can be honest,
24:34
Speaker 5: egregious turnovers at at inopportune times. I mean, you go
24:39
Speaker 5: back to at least three of those games on the
24:43
Speaker 5: road trip, there were some turnovers that led directly to goals.
24:47
Speaker 5: And and it's the frustrating part of if the Kraken
24:51
Speaker 5: cannot make that one mistake, that those two mistakes that
24:56
Speaker 5: end up in the back of your net, you're at
24:58
Speaker 5: least getting new overtime. So you're seeing that pattern of
25:02
Speaker 5: some frustrating little mistakes, you know, dictating the results for
25:09
Speaker 5: the cracking and recent.
25:10
Speaker 8: Games Fitzy to me, I mean, when I'm watching, it
25:13
Speaker 8: feels like it's a it's a it's a culmination of
25:16
Speaker 8: a lot of things. Obviously when you're you know, during
25:18
Speaker 8: this four game little skid here, you're averaging almost five
25:21
Speaker 8: goals given up. And yet it's not like, well, Decord
25:23
Speaker 8: and group they just have to be better. No, it's
25:25
Speaker 8: it's the turnovers or the shorthanded goals. But I mean,
25:29
Speaker 8: to me, they feel like bigger mistakes. Is that would
25:32
Speaker 8: you classify it as you just you can't be turning
25:34
Speaker 8: it over with some of those egregious ones like you're
25:36
Speaker 8: talking about or giving up goals when you've got a
25:38
Speaker 8: man advantage. Those to me seem like big ones where
25:42
Speaker 8: you might start getting your butt shewed a little bit
25:44
Speaker 8: if you keep doing.
25:45
Speaker 2: That type of thing.
25:46
Speaker 8: Or is it a lot of little things like you
25:48
Speaker 8: were just saying, you.
25:50
Speaker 5: Know what, Bucky column A column B I mean, I'll
25:54
Speaker 5: go I'll go back to the short handed goals that
25:59
Speaker 5: have been scored. I mean two of the three were
26:02
Speaker 5: off of just stick plays that that shouldn't have been made.
26:06
Speaker 5: You know, you're you're trying to break the puck out
26:08
Speaker 5: of the zone. You can't hold the blue line in
26:11
Speaker 5: your own end, and the puck bounces over your stick,
26:13
Speaker 5: and you know, you know, these teams are active, Len
26:16
Speaker 5: Lambert said the other day, he goes, we knew what
26:20
Speaker 5: they were, what they wanted to try and do on
26:22
Speaker 5: their PK. We watched it on film. We saw what
26:25
Speaker 5: they were trying to do, and then they went and
26:27
Speaker 5: scored on the Serana goal anyway, so you know it's
26:30
Speaker 5: it's it's a bit of the preparation, but it's also
26:33
Speaker 5: maybe a mental lapse. It's a couple of those of
26:35
Speaker 5: those mental lapses. Again, those are his words. We knew
26:38
Speaker 5: what they were gonna do and they still found a
26:40
Speaker 5: way to get it done. So I think it's the
26:43
Speaker 5: little mistakes, the turnovers. But I do think it's the
26:46
Speaker 5: big mistakes. It's it's the the the not keeping pucks
26:50
Speaker 5: in the zone and when they're on your power play,
26:52
Speaker 5: it's the you know, the slower breakouts. It's not getting
26:55
Speaker 5: to the puck quick enough and having to rush to
26:58
Speaker 5: make the split second decision which ultimately gets your stick
27:01
Speaker 5: lifted and into in the back of your net. So,
27:04
Speaker 5: you know, again, I can't point to any one factor
27:10
Speaker 5: as to why this is. If anything, this team should be,
27:13
Speaker 5: you know, playing a lot better than they are because
27:16
Speaker 5: they have everyone back and because they have everyone healthy.
27:20
Speaker 5: But you know, Ley Lambert the last two games has
27:23
Speaker 5: mixed up the lines in the third period. We saw
27:25
Speaker 5: him jumble the lines against Utah in the third period
27:28
Speaker 5: last night. I guess yesterday afternoon in the third period
27:32
Speaker 5: James Schwartz got dropped down of the fourth f line yesterday.
27:34
Speaker 5: So you're trying to find these combinations that work again
27:39
Speaker 5: because for the first time in forty five games, which
27:42
Speaker 5: is insane to think about, you're finally back to healthy.
27:47
Speaker 2: It's ever fits you.
27:48
Speaker 3: The great ever fits you voice of your Seattle cracking
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Speaker 3: three KJRFM. It'll be back on the call tomorrow night
27:56
Speaker 3: in some capacity. More on that in a moment. But
28:00
Speaker 3: I got to ask about the goaltending. I mean, I
28:03
Speaker 3: realized that some things are out of goalie's hands, and
28:06
Speaker 3: yet I mean a year ago it just felt like
28:08
Speaker 3: Grubauer couldn't save a shot, and Joey to Cord had
28:12
Speaker 3: taken over the starting goaltending job. And now one year later,
28:16
Speaker 3: you win more often with Grubauer and goal and Decord
28:19
Speaker 3: is thirty second and the National Hockey League in save percentage.
28:24
Speaker 3: I think, I don't think there are thirty two teams
28:26
Speaker 3: in the NHL.
28:27
Speaker 2: Or are there thirty two teams in the ndaah? Yeah,
28:30
Speaker 2: so thirty two exactly in the NHL. And so you know,
28:34
Speaker 2: twelve twelve and five record.
28:36
Speaker 3: I mean, what what is behind this reversal of Decord
28:41
Speaker 3: and Grubauer this year?
28:43
Speaker 5: You know that that's a that's an interesting question. I
28:47
Speaker 5: think for Grubauer the last two years, he'll tell you,
28:51
Speaker 5: and no one's harder, no one expects more out of
28:55
Speaker 5: Philip Grubauer than Philip Grubauer and the it wasn't the
29:00
Speaker 5: that he he wanted. He gets sent down to Coachella
29:04
Speaker 5: Valley last year. A lot of people may say that's
29:07
Speaker 5: rock bottom, but I think for him it was an
29:09
Speaker 5: opportunity just to go and play hockey again. I also
29:13
Speaker 5: didn't view it as a bad thing. And he goes
29:15
Speaker 5: down there, he does some great work, excuse me with
29:18
Speaker 5: Colin Julianello who Laane Lambert will heap all the praise
29:22
Speaker 5: onto for helping them manage this this three goalie system
29:27
Speaker 5: once Matt Murray against back. So I think Grubauer had
29:31
Speaker 5: a lot to prove this year. Factor in that's also
29:33
Speaker 5: an Olympic year for him. He's Team Germany's starting goaltender,
29:37
Speaker 5: so I mean that's always going to give you a
29:39
Speaker 5: little bit of extra burr in your saddle to go
29:41
Speaker 5: out there and want to prove things. So you're watching
29:44
Speaker 5: Grubauer this year, getting back to the goaltender that you
29:48
Speaker 5: know we remember from from years one and two has
29:50
Speaker 5: been nice. But as far as Joey the cord goes,
29:53
Speaker 5: you know, I don't think there's anything inherently wrong or
29:57
Speaker 5: systematically wrong or bad with how he's been playing I
30:03
Speaker 5: do think that last year, when you're the number one
30:06
Speaker 5: goalie and you're playing upwards of fifty five games, that's
30:08
Speaker 5: a lot. That's a lot. And again, very much like
30:11
Speaker 5: Philip Rubauer, Joey de coord puts a lot of pressure
30:13
Speaker 5: on himself and he expects a lot from him. Lane
30:17
Speaker 5: will tell you that no matter who's in goal, they've
30:20
Speaker 5: been our best players all year. They give us chances
30:23
Speaker 5: to win every single night. And there have been times
30:26
Speaker 5: that defensively, you know, we need to play better in
30:29
Speaker 5: front of them. Offensively, we need to give them more
30:32
Speaker 5: than two or three goals a night. You know, as
30:35
Speaker 5: we've all seen, when Joey Decord is on, he's on,
30:38
Speaker 5: and when Philip Rubauer this season, more often than not,
30:41
Speaker 5: he's been your best player on the guys. So you know,
30:43
Speaker 5: it's it's interesting. I can't endpoint an exact reason why
30:48
Speaker 5: the stats have flipped, but you know, if you're doing
30:53
Speaker 5: that that eye test that we all love in sports, right,
30:56
Speaker 5: Joey de Cord is still giving your team a chance
31:00
Speaker 5: to win on a nightly basis. I think yesterday, and
31:03
Speaker 5: I said it on the postgame show last night, was
31:06
Speaker 5: probably the first time that I can remember with as
31:09
Speaker 5: Joey Decourt being a starter for this team, that there's
31:13
Speaker 5: a couple there's more than one goal that he would
31:15
Speaker 5: have liked to have hat back. I think he fell
31:17
Speaker 5: victim to some pretty some screens yesterday. But he'll tell
31:21
Speaker 5: you man, I should have made those saves. And I
31:24
Speaker 5: think you know that was probably his first quote unquote
31:27
Speaker 5: bad game. If you want to say that that I
31:29
Speaker 5: can remember. So the next outing watch out because he
31:33
Speaker 5: doesn't have to in a row.
31:35
Speaker 3: All right, So Islanders tomorrow, I mean I'm seeing T
31:39
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31:43
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31:47
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31:51
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31:54
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31:56
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32:46
Speaker 3: Uh, you know when when the I mean the super
32:49
Speaker 3: Bowl is not going to align with the crack and
32:51
Speaker 3: schedule in Santa Clair. Is that you're not going to
32:53
Speaker 3: be in San Jose in a few weeks now?
32:55
Speaker 6: No, No, weirdly enough, I will be in San Diego,
33:01
Speaker 6: Lego Land when the super Bowl. I see, Yeah, that
33:06
Speaker 6: that is that is that's gonna be day four of
33:09
Speaker 6: the Olympic break.
33:10
Speaker 5: So we we our last game is what the fourth,
33:14
Speaker 5: which is a Wednesday, and then my wife and my
33:16
Speaker 5: son and I are gonna leave on Saturday to go
33:19
Speaker 5: down there. We're doing a week they we're gonna go
33:20
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33:22
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33:24
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33:30
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33:33
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, if you're gonna you're gonna miss the
33:35
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33:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what you do. Leg lands Land.
33:45
Speaker 6: Oh come on, I would love to go to a
33:47
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33:49
Speaker 2: Come on now, Abraham Lincoln, Pride of Illinois. All right, man,
33:52
Speaker 2: we'll talk to you next week. Try to get this
33:54
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33:55
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33:59
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34:22
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34:26
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34:30
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34:44
Speaker 3: Cooper Cup is getting ready to take on his former team,
34:47
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34:52
Speaker 3: everything on the line your trip to the super Bowl.
34:56
Speaker 3: Of course, it's going to come down to Cooper Cup
34:59
Speaker 3: and his brand new Seahawk uniform getting ready to take
35:02
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35:06
Speaker 3: goes on to the Super Bowl. And so much respect
35:09
Speaker 3: for this guy that Pooka Nakoula was asked about having
35:13
Speaker 3: to face the Seahawks again, and the first thing that
35:17
Speaker 3: came to the Great Poka Nakoula's mind was, Oh, Yeah,
35:20
Speaker 3: can't wait get to see the All Father, the All Father,
35:24
Speaker 3: he calls them Odin for goodness sake, I mean, I
35:28
Speaker 3: mean you want to talk about putting some respect on
35:30
Speaker 3: a name. Uh, Pooka Nakula thinks of getting to be
35:36
Speaker 3: getting the opportunity to face Odin, the god of the Norseman.
35:44
Speaker 2: If you will, or is it the Norseman r?
35:46
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, Yeah, that's that's where that's where he puts him.
35:50
Speaker 2: Right for's father. Yeah, that's what Cooper Cup.
35:55
Speaker 3: Has earned from Pooka Nakua and his former teammates.
35:58
Speaker 8: They really don't get a whole heck of a lot
36:00
Speaker 8: more of a compliment from anybody. I mean to call
36:03
Speaker 8: you the all father, and yet I can totally see it.
36:06
Speaker 8: I mean I could see it from the standpoint of one,
36:08
Speaker 8: how great he was as a receiver. But then you
36:11
Speaker 8: just you think of Cooper Cup and I think of
36:15
Speaker 8: a guy that just never really looked at life in
36:18
Speaker 8: a way of like I deserve this. It was like,
36:20
Speaker 8: I'm gonna just go take whatever I whatever I think
36:24
Speaker 8: I can take, whatever I can earn, I'm gonna go
36:26
Speaker 8: get it. I mean to be an Eastern Washington guy
36:29
Speaker 8: to rise all of a sudden to an NFL Super
36:32
Speaker 8: Bowl MVP, to have one of the most outstanding seasons
36:37
Speaker 8: ever for a wide receiver, and then you think of
36:39
Speaker 8: it as he still doesn't change how he goes about
36:42
Speaker 8: his business. To me, it's I'd be willing to bet
36:45
Speaker 8: that everybody that's ever been a teammate of him has
36:48
Speaker 8: learned something. Now, if you're a receiver a form a
36:51
Speaker 8: fellow receiver, you would have to and I to be honest,
36:55
Speaker 8: it's like a little asterisk thing I've written down on
36:57
Speaker 8: my notes of a third time you're playing somebody you
37:02
Speaker 8: know that Mike McDonald's learned some stuff about what Sean
37:04
Speaker 8: McVay wants to do. And I'm sure they've already picked
37:07
Speaker 8: h Cooper Cup's brain to some extent. But I bet
37:10
Speaker 8: you there he's given them even more now the third
37:13
Speaker 8: time this season that he's faced him like, he's definitely
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Speaker 8: gonna go back to that again. Guarantee. I was coached
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Speaker 8: by him for what eight years?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Is there another level you can go?
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Speaker 3: Because I think he's been pretty integral in helping them
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Speaker 3: the first two times. I mean, is there a playoff
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Speaker 3: level that Cooper Cup can go to? I joke with
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Speaker 3: Greig this morning, I'm like, if I were the Seahawks,
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Speaker 3: I'd have Cooper Cup in on my coaches meetings before
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Speaker 3: the players even came.
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Speaker 2: But I don't know. Maybe Cooper's like, Hey, I've given
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Speaker 2: you everything I got. What do you want me to do?
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Speaker 3: Read Sean mcvay's you know, email, his dire me to
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Speaker 3: open his letters for Yeah, you want me to read
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Speaker 3: his thoughts? I mean, I don't know what more to
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Speaker 3: tell you. I'll help in whatever way that I can,
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Speaker 3: But do I have a book on what Sean McVeigh
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Speaker 3: wants to do in the playoffs.
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Speaker 2: Maybe he does.
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Speaker 4: I don't know.
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Speaker 8: Well, I mean it's I think it's just like everything else.
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Speaker 8: You're always you could never know enough about something, right,
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Speaker 8: I mean, there's always something to learn about something. And
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Speaker 8: you know that Cooper Cup's been watching every single game
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Speaker 8: that the Rams are playing down the stretch here in
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Speaker 8: the playoffs. I mean when they had a week off,
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Speaker 8: the Rams most certainly weren't. And you know that he
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Speaker 8: still has watched the stuff like, oh, I remember that play.
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Speaker 8: Oh I remember how much Sean loves that play. And
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Speaker 8: if it's working, hey, don't free. It's just one of
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Speaker 8: those it'll be it'll be re referencing certain things that
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Speaker 8: they probably have already went over, and a couple of
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Speaker 8: different things like, hey, we hadn't seen this play all year, right,
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Speaker 8: we've been looking. We've played these guys twice already. You
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Speaker 8: haven't seen this play. But I can tell you right
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Speaker 8: now that he set up this play with that play
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Speaker 8: back in twenty seventeen when we were playing.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think Sean McVay so smart and so
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Speaker 3: has got everything so covered.
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Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 3: I think mcveigh's like, I want to run this play, guys,
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Speaker 3: But Cooper's gonna read my mind.
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Speaker 2: I can't do it. Yeah, I can't do that.
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Speaker 7: One that I do like the Cooper cut being the
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Speaker 7: all father though, because I do think of him like that,
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Speaker 7: even though he's so much younger than me. I think
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Speaker 7: of him like living on a mountaintop and he's got
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Speaker 7: a large staff. Yeah, and you go up there to
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Speaker 7: get insight into your life, right and just into the world,
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Speaker 7: and he just spreads his knowledge. Yeah yeah, from his
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Speaker 7: mountaintop peak.
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Speaker 2: That's the off season for him. Yeah, that's what That's
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Speaker 2: where I picture him. Staff, no undergarments, rope, Yeah, because
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Speaker 2: you've got to get make it breezy.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying yeah, I'm not saying he's naked up
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Speaker 2: on that mountain.
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Speaker 3: No, I'm just saying that he's just letting you know,
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Speaker 3: he's letting nature take its course.
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Speaker 8: We're doing up in there, Why wouldn't exactly.
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Speaker 2: You're alone on a peak, hanging with sheep. Yeah, there
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Speaker 2: are sheep in my vision for sure.
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Speaker 7: Yeah right yeah, Well yeah, because he's a shepherd of knowledge,
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Speaker 7: like a.
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Speaker 8: Shepherd, a warlike shepherd that writes poetry as well.
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Speaker 2: Yes, all of that very busy
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