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39: Learning how to navigate social media with two students...and a teacher · Beyond The Beacon

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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to Beyond the Beacon with Bishop Kevin Sweeney, a podcast of the Diocese of Patterson in the great state of New Jersey.
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  SPEAKER_01: We need those questions.
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  SPEAKER_00: Looking forward to that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: I am Cecile Pagliarulo, Patterson Diocese's Digital Media Specialist, filling in for Jay Agnis.
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  SPEAKER_01: And with me is Bishop Kevin Sweeney.
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  SPEAKER_01: How are you, Bishop?
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm good, Cecile.
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  SPEAKER_00: How are you?
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  SPEAKER_01: Good.
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  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to uh Beyond the Beacon.
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  SPEAKER_00: You've been in the background for a while, but uh uh and as we begin, people say to me, Oh, you have a great social media, Instagram, Facebook.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh that's Cecile.
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  SPEAKER_00: This I'm giving away the secret now in full transparency.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'll send some comments.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh we have a great photographer, Joe Geeley, uh, but um uh Jay is um uh heading up the efforts, but uh uh but Cecile, thank you for all that's over three three years uh so um uh a little more that um we started uh the Instagram account.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you were even before that, um maybe say a word about that uh um uh in during the pandemic, and uh maybe just right before the pandemic with Caitlin um Ferrari and um Chris Brancado, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: The three of you, the beacon, uh St.
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  SPEAKER_00: Paul Inside the Walls, and Catholic charities started the Dowson Facebook page, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Around the It did come out uh because of the as a result of the pandemic.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh I actually remember the birthday of our Facebook page, which was March 17, 2020.
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  SPEAKER_00: St.
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  SPEAKER_00: Patrick's Day.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, and I think the world quote unquote shut down like uh maybe the day after.
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  SPEAKER_01: And uh so it did um so Diocesa Patterson is actually late in the game of social media.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so yes, here we are.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, three years later.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh so yeah, thank you for all our followers.
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  SPEAKER_01: Great support.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh an interesting thing though, it was your birthday yesterday, and we had a record number of comments wishing you happy birthday.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think we're about up to 175 comments.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna get a message out later today.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I was uh really humbled by all of the love and uh messages and uh family, friends, and so many throughout the diocese, and that's one of the uh our our guests can tell us a little bit about uh the good things that are there in social media, and one of those is to hear from family and friends, uh, maybe especially on a birthday, and I had that experience certainly yesterday.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, Cecile, maybe you could introduce our guests.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh so today we have two students from Mary Help, a Christian's academy in North Halden, a Catholic preparatory school in the Salesian tradition.
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  SPEAKER_01: We have Caitlin Farley, who is a senior, and Emily Dimkowski, a junior.
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  SPEAKER_01: With them is also Sister Christina Chung, Marketing and Communications at Mary Help.
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  SPEAKER_01: She'll be on in a second, but first we will talk to these lovely young ladies.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh our topic is actually youth and social media.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh within the last two decades, um, an interesting fun fact Facebook will celebrate its 20th birthday on the renaming it Facebook for old people.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: So uh Facebook started uh with college in Harvard University at Harvard University on February 4th, 2020.
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  SPEAKER_01: And um so it's come a long way since that time.
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  SPEAKER_01: And uh with that, you see how Facebook was created by the youth.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was uh by Mark Zuckerberg.
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  SPEAKER_00: College student.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, college student.
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  SPEAKER_01: So uh these two students will share insights with us on social media and how it affects teens today.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, something interesting about social media, you always see the word follow.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh and in the Bible, Jesus said 22 times, follow me.
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  SPEAKER_01: So there's like a kind of a connection there.
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  SPEAKER_01: The original post.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: The original post, yes, on a tree, palm tree, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Follow me, he said.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: But anyway, so uh ladies, welcome.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome, thank you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I guess we're gonna do that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Maybe we'll start with a prayer.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh and certainly appropriate um the beautiful name of your school and title of our blessed mother who helps us in all of our needs, whether that be when we have a test or uh when we're doing a show or um when we want to uh ask the Lord to guide us, and so um let us place ourselves in God's presence in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.
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  SPEAKER_00: Amen.
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  SPEAKER_00: Remembering that Jesus has told us wherever two or three are gathered together in his name, he's there in the midst of them.
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  SPEAKER_00: As we gather now in the name of Jesus and we thank him for his presence and the gifts and blessings of each day, we thank him for and ask the help of Mary, our blessed mother, as together we pray.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
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  SPEAKER_00: Blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
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  SPEAKER_00: Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death.
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  SPEAKER_00: Amen.
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  SPEAKER_00: Mary, help of Christians, praise.
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  SPEAKER_00: Pray for us, St.
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  SPEAKER_00: Dombosco, pray for you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Pray for us, St.
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  SPEAKER_00: Mary Masarella, praise for us.
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  SPEAKER_00: Pray for us, name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.
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  SPEAKER_00: Amen.
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  SPEAKER_00: And maybe Saint Francis de Sales, uh, I think the patron of communications.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh so St.
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  SPEAKER_00: Claire, I think, is the patron of television.
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  SPEAKER_00: Television.
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  SPEAKER_00: Television.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's my middle name, actually.
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  SPEAKER_00: Is that right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, great, great.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, so Caitlin and Emily, thank you so much for being with us, and Sister Christina, who we'll talk to in a little bit.
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  SPEAKER_00: But um, so uh Caitlin, I believe you're a senior and Emily a junior.
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe tell us your your parish and where you're from and uh where you grew up and uh how are things going at uh Mary Help in general, and then we'll start talking maybe a little bit about social media.
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  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe the senior will go first.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
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  SPEAKER_04: So yeah, I'm Caitlin.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um I go to the Church of the Guardian Angel in Allendale, New Jersey, which is a very small town, but it's by it's in Bergen County by like Ramsey and Mawa.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um what was that else?
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  SPEAKER_04: Um Grammar School.
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  SPEAKER_04: Grammar School.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um so I originally went to St.
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  SPEAKER_04: Elizabeth's and Wyckoff, and then I switched to it's a very small school in Pekwanic called Colby Immaculata.
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  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um, and I graduated there.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's what made you choose Mary Help?
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  SPEAKER_04: Okay, so it was kind of just a feeling that I felt.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um I had toured other all girl Catholic high schools before, but Mary Help was just a different feeling.
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  SPEAKER_04: I remember walking in during an open house actually, and I just had like this feeling.
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  SPEAKER_04: I knew it was like it was God telling me I was ready to go to Mary Help.
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  SPEAKER_00: So Did you start Mary Help in the fall of 2020?
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  SPEAKER_04: Yes, I did.
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  SPEAKER_00: So coming out of the pandemic, huh?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: You graduated from eighth grade virtually, is that right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, those were interesting days, huh?
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  SPEAKER_04: Very interesting times.
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  SPEAKER_00: And Emily, uh where you grew up in grammar school, maybe?
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  SPEAKER_03: Um Well I went my church is St.
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  SPEAKER_03: Aloysius uh in uh Caldwell, and I live the town over in Verona.
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  SPEAKER_03: And um the school I went to is called Forest Avenue.
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  SPEAKER_03: It was public, um, just in my town.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um and and then I went to my middle school at public school my whole life until Mary Help.
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  SPEAKER_00: And what made you choose Mary Help?
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  SPEAKER_03: Um similar to Caitlin, honestly, just you know, when I first um for the open house and I toured the school with my parents, there was just a feeling because I was looking at other all-girl school too.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um and I was in public school my whole life, so I really wanted, you know, a Catholic experience, um, a private school, and Mary Help was just different than every other school I looked at, and I continued with the process, and I just I knew that my the decision was the right way.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so far, so good?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: So maybe uh, and you can decide who's gonna answer first.
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  SPEAKER_00: When you hear the word social media, what comes to mind?
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  SPEAKER_04: Many connotations to that.
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  SPEAKER_04: There's a lot of things that come with that.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um I think of there's a lot of funny stuff, there's a lot of good stuff, but there's also so much overwhelming negativity with social media.
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  SPEAKER_04: So that's kind of what first.
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  SPEAKER_00: It can remind us to those words at the end of the our father, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Lead us not into temptation.
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  SPEAKER_00: Temptation.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um first words, what thoughts come to your mind when you hear social media.
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  SPEAKER_03: I think as we mentioned before, the word follow, and um, I think of like all the different apps and just the positive and negatives as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell Give me a few positive or things that you find either enjoyable or helpful.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um favorite things about I think just being able to connect like with your friends and to see, you know, their post and and to share in that and like, you know, it um I think also to follow like um helpful helpful um people.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, sure.
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  SPEAKER_00: Anything comes to mind with a particular that you learned on YouTube or how to do or um uh I mean there's everything on YouTube, right?
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  SPEAKER_04: Like I could look up anything and I'd probably find a YouTube video on it.
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  SPEAKER_04: And the same thing with social media.
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  SPEAKER_04: I think it's a big creative outlet that can have really bad um repercussions with it, but I think there's so much on social media that's really good, at least.
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  SPEAKER_04: Like they have recipes and and people playing music.
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  SPEAKER_04: Like there's so many good things, but then there's the not so good things.
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  SPEAKER_00: Did I heal in some of what Cecile had shared before?
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, did one of you a fan of Father Mike Schmidt's.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, yes, me.
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  SPEAKER_04: We both are.
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  SPEAKER_04: We love Father Mike Schmidt.
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  SPEAKER_00: Did you do Bible in a year?
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  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Wasn't it great?
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  SPEAKER_04: It's so good.
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  SPEAKER_04: I love him.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_00: He's but he's um he's too low-key, right?
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_00: He's got to get uh Oh guys, okay.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_00: Here we go.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's a little slow for me, if you ask me.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh but maybe uh before I turn it over to Cecile, uh some positive things, uh favorite things, good things uh about social media that you like.
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  SPEAKER_04: Like I said, I just think it's a really great creative outlet.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um I think there's so many positive things that come along with it.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um, also not only connecting with people, but just learning a lot.
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  SPEAKER_04: Like I feel I see recipes and thinking and stuff.
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  SPEAKER_04: I'm like, I'm gonna try that.
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  SPEAKER_04: And then I also see really good things such as Father Mike Schmidt's or any other Catholic speakers or Christian speakers, and that's also very helpful too.
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  SPEAKER_04: So there's a lot of helpful things with social media.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_00: Cecile, take it away.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_01: So uh I guess what some are some of the platforms you're using, or what are because I we were talking about Facebook and the bishop joked about it should be Facebook for old people now.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um again, it's interesting because it's history started with uh college students.
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  SPEAKER_01: In order to be a Facebook member, you had to have a EDU at the end of your email.
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  SPEAKER_01: And uh now not so much.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think by 2006 it became more everyone could join.
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  SPEAKER_01: But uh, what are some platforms you're using today, the teens of 2023?
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  SPEAKER_03: Um I say definitely Instagram and Snapchat mostly for myself, I think.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, personally, yes, but TikTok is extremely popular.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: It's very, very, very popular.
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  SPEAKER_04: But yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So what would be a a difference between Instagram and Snapchat?
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  SPEAKER_00: What would you use one for or the other?
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  SPEAKER_00: What do you like about one or the other?
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  SPEAKER_03: Um Snapchat, I feel like it's more it's very more personal just with like almost your group of friends.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_03: Um Instagram I think is a little bit broader and there's more to it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like I feel like you can see a lot more of other people and maybe celebrities in Instagram than you can in Snapchat.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_00: And is is Snapchat I can't even say that.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_00: Snapchat, is that more pictures and videos as opposed to words or not necessarily mostly pictures.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean between your friends, like you'll snap a picture and and just send it basically.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_00: Usually with a comment or without?
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_04: It can be.
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  SPEAKER_04: It can be with, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um it depends.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's very one-on-one.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um, very like you were saying, very personal Snapchat.
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  SPEAKER_04: You send a picture to one specific person.
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  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_04: And you can write something as well.
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  SPEAKER_04: But yeah, very one-on-one Snapchat.
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  SPEAKER_00: Tell me, um, you you said it uh the difference between um TikTok, what would be uh as opposed to Snapchat or Instagram, what's uh the advantage of TikTok?
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_04: Instagram, you can post pictures as well as there's like a reels section, which is videos and stuff like that.
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  SPEAKER_04: So that's very similar to TikTok, but there's more to Instagram, whereas you can post pictures and stuff like that.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_04: TikTok is specifically and exclusively videos.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_04: Um and then Snapchat is definitely very different than Instagram and TikTok.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_04: Like Instagram and TikTok are kind of similar.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, they're similar.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um and then Snapchat, it's its own thing, I would say.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_01: I I mean I think even with IG Instagram stories, that kind of is a Snapchat.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but that's similar to Snapchat.
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  SPEAKER_01: So um basically uh what Snapchat is it 24 hours?
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  SPEAKER_01: You could uh pictures.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it goes away in 24 hours.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Something I know about Snapchat is the filters.
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  SPEAKER_01: Very cute and very funny.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um my daughter, she likes to see herself like the dog filter.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's a very popular filter on uh Snapchat.
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  SPEAKER_01: So uh I uh we're talking about a lot of that negativity.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um when I did a pre-interview with both of you uh uh ladies, you s you spoke about um something that made sense to me is um people tend to think social media, you you gotta kinda think of social media that it's not sometimes always real.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh yes.
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  SPEAKER_04: Very filtered.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_04: Social media is very filtered.
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  SPEAKER_04: You hear a lot of people say that they just kind of post their highlights and stuff.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_04: And it's I mean, it's very human because who would want to post if the negative stuff.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we would want to be like on the test.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_00: Uh like I would not want to post that.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_04: Um so it is kind of just it's very filtered, as Emily was saying, it's you just post the highlights and what you want people to see.
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  SPEAKER_00: So And uh if it looks like when you're on social media that everybody's beautiful and has a wonderful life, it could make someone feel, well, how come my life is a good idea?
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, definitely.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, definitely.
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  SPEAKER_04: It brings a lot of comparison because you look at other people's highs and their highlights and everything, and you're like, wow, I'm not doing well.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_00: And that's where uh we need to um be able to have real conversations, right, with one another and and know that um, you know, you uh one of the things I learned early on as a priest, I think, is uh in getting to know, it's a blessing to get to know families, but there's no perfect family.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_00: Uh uh thank God for good parents and good families.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_00: But but um but there's the there's gonna be struggles.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_00: It's not easy to love each other and be patient with each other and put up with each other, right?
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh but sometimes it looks like, right, oh, and everybody has got uh any um particular challenges maybe that friends or siblings or um have have run into in terms of uh maybe some of the more negative um impacts that social media have um I don't think I can think of anything really specifically, but I just think the whole idea of comparison and how how negative and how like detrimental that can be to someone and like on social media it's really I think the easiest way to compare because it's off a screen and it's just a picture or a video and you just see a second of into somebody's life, and of course, as Caitlin said, they're posting a a really great thing.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_03: And um I think it's it's a really easy gateway just to compare yourself and yeah, and that that like comparison is the thief of joy, and you know it's it's uh a down room.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_00: Comparison is the thief of joy, is that right?
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_00: Amen.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_00: That's really good, Emily.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_00: That sounds like uh something.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_00: Is it St.
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  SPEAKER_00: Don Vosco or the Solutions?
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_04: Well, I know Sister Colleen, who's the provincial.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_04: She's she told me once comparison is the mother of sorrow.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, there you go.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_04: Which is very poetic.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_00: Uh how about screen time?
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um do you sometimes find it a challenge?
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_00: Do you know others who um find themselves finding it difficult to get off, or um if there's a test that you should be studying for at home, like you should be doing it?
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_05: I can't think of any of that.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_05: I definitely don't do that.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_05: No, okay.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I definitely, even for me, it can be social media can be so addictive, but I know it's it's designed to be addictive.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_04: Um but yeah, it definitely can be hard trying to prioritize things that matter more.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_04: But it's just it can just be so addictive, I think.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_00: Uh how much have you learned in terms of it's being that phrase, it's it's designed to be addictive?
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_04: Well, I know that the way that even with the algorithms and how that works, the way that they design the apps, even with Reels and TikTok, is that they're designed to, if you like something and you interact with that post so you like it, or you comment, you save it, it'll show you more of that.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_00: Do you feel either from parents or in school or other places that have kind of helped you to say, you know, this if if you were aware of this, i it could be helpful to say they're just drawing me in, right?
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_00: And and you've heard that from others?
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, yeah.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_03: I know I have too.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_03: And it's so true that it's so addictive.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_03: And I think like screen time, I personally don't have it, but I think not even just screen time, but like healthy habits like that are very beneficial.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_03: Because you need a break.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_03: And it is addictive and it's hard to come away from it.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_03: Um and I think just knowing that in your yourself personally, um, taking breaks and not always being so uh you know enveloped in it is really helpful.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_00: And sometimes easier to say than do, right?
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um Cecile.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I think with social media too, this is me.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um someone in my 40s.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_01: Uh there's a sense of like if if I me at my age too, if I don't get a like, sometimes you know, you lose that sense of validation in yourself.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um I know too, there's like a um Father uh Bishop Joe S P Lia.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yes.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, he's uh he had a whole week on mental health and on his uh social media.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um and uh and now talking about mental health is so mainstream.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_01: And I think there is a correlation with why mental health is on the rise.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_01: And I think a lot of it has to do with social media, the comparison of comparing yourself with others and uh losing that sense of validation.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_01: And uh I for me too, I post a picture and if sometimes I'll be like down on myself if I don't see get those likes.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_01: But then I'm like, well, I know, like artistic merit-wise, it's a pretty good post, but then and then it's a popularity contest, it turns like so it's like high school all over again, I guess.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_01: But uh but at the end of the day, no, yeah, pretty confident in the work I do.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_01: And um, but I this is something I always say, me and my me my uh peers, my um my friends, we are grateful that we did not grow up in a time where social media existed.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_01: And um and we want to be there for you because um because I I can't imagine what it's like.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_01: I do youth ministry at my parish, uh St.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_01: Anthony's or home parish, St.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_01: Anthony's in Passake, and uh and I see what those young people struggle with a lot of times too.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_01: And and I I just my heart I guess goes out to them seeing what they struggle with.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um and maybe it is because of social media.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um I'm sure it's a big factor.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_00: But um It sounds like both of you have support in terms of family and your school community and friends that um uh you're kind of not in it alone, being sucked into the more negative parts, right?
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_00: Would that be the case?
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_04: Very grateful for my family and my school that it doesn't always have to my world doesn't always have to revolve around social media.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_00: And that we can um, you know, that there's good and bad in in in really everything, um, or so much in in our lives and in ourselves and um and we want to focus on on the good and trust in God's mercy when we when we fail.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and I think when we just I think before we uh started the episode, uh two um groups that uh are have a positive presence, I think, on social media are um Mary, your school, Mary Mary Help of Christians, and the Silesian sisters, right?
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_00: Uh maybe talk a little bit about what you see or hear or how the school or the community use social media in a positive way.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_04: Um I think, especially with the Salesian Sisters, that Instagram page, they're really good with staying current with a lot of the TikTok trends and stuff like that.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_04: So I really love seeing that they do that because it's so cool seeing sisters from all ages participating in a trend or whatever.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_04: So I I love that.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_03: Um I I like just a simple like post that has like a meaningful Bible quote or something too.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_03: Um and a night like a video, like Caitlin was saying, too.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_03: That that speaks wonders to me, and I think I really love seeing that.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_00: And um there's uh social media and then there's wider media.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I believe um your school has a a morning program that uh morning show.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_00: A show?
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_00: Uh what is that like and how does that uh impact the community, would you say?
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_03: Um I think it's I think it's nice just to see um I feel like it's a way for the school kind of to come together.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_03: There are usually like a couple students who you know will lead us in prayer, and um our head of school, Sister Kelly, will give some insight, um, just you know, talk to us before the school day begins.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_03: And every time, every morning.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's just really nice to hear from our head of school and to have a sense of community with the other peers and in our grade, not in our grade.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell And we saw um during the pandemic certainly that um uh the social media and and media can uh help us with that sense of community when we can't be physically present that we can pray together through live stream or uh being connected.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_04: And that's what's really good.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, on our morning show we do it's live streams, so it's all on YouTube.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_04: Oh wow.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_04: Um and so the whole entire school tunes in and we do morning prayers and then there's a funny joke that somebody wants to.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_04: And then there's just kind of updates on what's going on in the school too.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_04: So it is a really good it is really good because it keeps us updated on okay, we're doing this this week or make sure you build community, right?
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_04: And then we have like you were saying, Sister Kelly or some other sisters as well.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_04: They'll do like a good morning thought, and that's really great because sometimes they'll talk most of the time Sister Kelly talks about the daily gospel and how that can relate into our lives.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_04: And so I really like hearing that because it it can just be so inspiring before the day.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_00: So we're gonna bring uh Sister Christina in, but um and I'll give Cecile a chance to ask a final question.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_00: But um I think we're gonna be on the road together uh heading to Washington, right?
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_00: Are you both going to the March for Life?
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_00: So uh there'll be certainly plenty of posting there.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_00: Uh as as the similar to the uh Salesian sisters, uh the Sisters for Life, I come to mind, uh the uh the CFRs, uh there's some of the communities that do have a great presence on uh on on social media.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_00: Um and Cecile mentioned uh Bishop J, Bishop Espayon.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_00: Have you heard of Bishop Espion?
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_00: You have to check him out.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_00: He's got a great art auxiliary bishop in um in uh the arch ties in New York in the Bronx.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_00: He's uh he's a he's a great um uh I think role model.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_00: So uh we'll have to introduce you to Bishop J.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_00: But um uh thanks so much for being on.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_00: But before we bring Cis Christina, I don't want to see if Cecil had um a final question.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I guess basically help us out.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_01: What what kind of content would you like to see more on our social media?
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_03: Um I know something for myself that I really like seeing are like, you know, like just like quick, like um a few second long videos, like there's YouTube shorts, Instagram reels, TikTok even.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_03: But just a quick um video I think is really impactful, or just a post, um, as I said before, like with a Bible verse or something.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_03: Um and I think though they can um they can like having videos like that that are speaking to young people um can definitely like console and like coach you um in your faith.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_03: I think that that would really help.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_00: I gotta do a few more videos and get uh uh maybe some of our younger religious and and priests as well to um get out there and give some encouragement to uh our young people.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um Caitlin?
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_04: I would definitely say um obviously keeping it relevant, you know, staying with trends and everything, but also um I know we were saying this before in the pre-interview, um that a lot of the times explaining from a bishop's perspective or a priest's perspective of things going on in the world and how we can look at it in a Catholic viewpoint.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_04: I know that there were a lot of Catholic speakers and priests talking about, you know, when Pope Francis did the same-sex blessings, like explaining what that meant.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_04: So obviously I think when things happen in the world, just giving encouragement as well as explaining, okay, as Catholics, this is what we can do.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_04: Um, and then yeah, staying relevant and current with whatever trends are going on.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um thank you for that very much.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, we the blessing uh document is a uh a a challenge.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_00: But uh I think um uh Pope Francis uh has that wonderful sense of um encouraging us to um really look deeply into what the Lord is asking of us and and as we think about you know what we can and can't do in terms of what God is asking of us.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_00: Uh but uh we can always um uh encounter the person as a child of God, right?
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_00: Because we're and maybe we we should social media, we're all God's beloved children, right?
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_00: And we're all beautiful in God's eyes, and uh and maybe that message doesn't get out there enough.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, definitely.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_00: Well, thank you so much.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_00: Uh you're I guess thinking about college now, huh?
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, yeah.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_00: And you're probably not far behind if we're not there already.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_00: Well, uh, thanks so much so much for for being with us today.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you for having us.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_00: God bless you.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for care.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_01: And here we now have uh Sister Christina Chung, a marketing and communications at Mary Hill.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_01: Can you tell us a little bit about yourself, sister?
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome, sister.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_02: Um so I've been a Salesian sister for I guess it is nine years now.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_02: Um I grew up in New Jersey in a very vibrant Korean Catholic community.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_02: And I studied English and professional writing in my undergrad, actually.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_02: Did not go to Catholic school for most of my life.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_02: Actually, my whole life.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_02: The only time I my first time wearing a uniform was when I entered the convent.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_02: Um and I asked before I entered, I also received my master's in graphic design.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_02: So my background is in editorial and graphic design.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_02: Where did you study undergrad?
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_02: Undergrad, I went to Carnegie Mellon University.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, and then yes.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_02: And then for my graduate um Pratt Institute, which was in the school.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, Brooklyn.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_02: Well, actually, I was working in the city at the time, and my company was very graciously paid for part of my grad school degree.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_00: Nice, nice.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_02: Um so it was actually in New York City.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_00: And we're gonna talk a little bit about social media and your role at the school, but uh um what um where did you hear the Lord's call or how'd you hear the Lord's call to uh religious consecrated life?
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_02: Um so I would say uh I guess I can give the shorter version.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_02: Um I grew up in a very devout family, but um it wasn't until about maybe college and once I started working that my faith really became my own.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_02: Um I would say for me, uh everyone has their own journey.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_02: For me, some of it was kind of an intellectual journey.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_02: I joined a Bible study group and then I also just started reading some of the Vatican II documents on my own.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't know that they existed, and once I started to get into them, the beauty of our faith, how it was articulated, it just really moved me and opened my mind and opened my heart.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and sort of through that process, I came to have more of a personal um relationship with God and also this deep understanding that He loved me.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_02: For a while, that hadn't really come about until I was a young young adult or so.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_02: Um and then I was working in New York City, and um it's a long story, but I had this sort of dramatic encounter where I felt that the Lord was inviting me to pray about my vocation.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_02: So I worked in Midtown and there was a church called St.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_02: Francis of Assisi.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_05: 31st Street.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, and they have like six daily masses and an adoration chapel in the basement.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_02: So I made a commitment to pray about my vocation very specifically.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_02: So I went to Mass during my lunch break, and then I would go to Adoration and ask, you know, Lord, what is my vocation?
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_02: And for me it was very surprising and shocking.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_02: I I really didn't know any young people who were thinking about religious life.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_02: Um and I didn't really consider myself as someone who would be a candidate.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_02: Like no one really told me growing up that I should be a sister.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_02: I was sort of chatty and little boy crazy and not really the type that you might think would be, you know, sister material.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_02: Um but over the course of like a year of very intensely praying about my vocation and slowly, really slowly opening up my heart, um, I began to feel more certain that that was what the Lord was asking of me.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_02: Um so at some point I just felt like it has to be now if I'm gonna do it.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_02: You know, Lord help me, the courage, give me the courage to say yes.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_02: And I sort of just leapt into it and here I am.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_00: Same Pope John Paul II.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_00: Don't be afraid, right?
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_00: So maybe we can fast forward.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_00: Uh when did you start your uh work at um Mary Help?
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_02: Sure.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_02: Um this is my second time actually at Mary Help of Christians Academy.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_02: We um are missioned wherever we're needed.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_02: So my first three years as a sister, I taught theology, scripture, primarily scripture.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and then I was missioned to a couple other places, and then I've come back again this time to do the marketing for the school.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_02: Um I also assist with the province in some of our communications, our social media team, and that sort of thing as well.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_00: And you heard that uh Caitlin and Emily are fans of uh the communities uh We're always checking, you're following us, right?
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_00: Uh maybe uh and I'll let Cecile come in, but uh just um when you interact with the students um and their use of social media and interest in it, and um can you use it as a as a means of um getting to know each other and um maybe offering some advice to them?
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_00: How has that experience been working with the students uh in those areas?
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_02: Um so you know it's really interesting with social media as Salesians, we really want to be where the young people are present.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_02: So some of the thinking behind the sisters being part of social media as well is to know the youth culture and like what is the environment that our young people are living in, swimming in, what are they ingesting?
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_02: So that's sort of the impetus for why we want to be on social media to also experience what are some of those challenges, temptations, what are some of the joys and the good uses of social media.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_02: Um I think our goal always is to make sure that we're accompanying into real relationships.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_02: So social media is a tool that can help in accompaniment, but really the goal and where we know the most success and kind of the real relationship happens off of the internet and off of social media.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_02: So it's a tool.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_02: And it's so it helps, especially in accompanying some of our alumni once they move out of our schools, um, that they can still kind of keep in touch with us, or if the sisters move locations and we'll sometimes get DMs, you know, direct messages from our past pupils and stay in touch that way.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_02: Um but really our goal is to work on the real face-to-face person-to-person relationship.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_02: Are you yourself a personal social media user?
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_02: So it's funny.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_02: I I do have my own account, but ever since I've been doing the school social media account as well as helping with the sister social media account, I'm a little bit social media out for myself personally.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I'm always thinking, okay, what can we show on the sisters account?
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_02: What can we show on the school account?
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_02: So my account has sort of fallen to the background, um, which is okay.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_01: It's funny because uh um assistant a bishop and then even our diocesan one.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_01: You can see a lot of Salesian sisters have their accounts, their personal accounts, and uh and it's it's it's nice to see.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_01: I think that kind of humanizes religious and and priests when they themselves are involved in uh social media.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_02: And we also know the young people are on social media so much.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_02: I think the stat now is between four to five hours a day.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_02: So we want to be where the young people are.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_02: So we want to be where the young people are.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, Don Bosco's preventive system, you want to be with the young people, you want to be with them even before they arrive.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, at the playground, be present at the playground before they even arrive to help create a healthy environment for them to grow and to be holy.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_02: So, in the same way with the social media, the world of social media, we want to be present there to help them navigate, to process, to understand and use the tool well.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_01: So I do youth ministry at my uh at my parish or home parish.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_01: And uh I noticed that our followers tend to be alumni more than the current youth.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I mean I mean, do you see that similar at Mary Help?
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, we we have all different types.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_02: We've had for sure our alumni are present, and they're sort of different depending on Facebook and Instagram, um, generationally and um demographically, which who, you know, which group follows us on one platform versus the other.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_02: Um we also have a very small TikTok account that we've been trying to work on a little bit with the school.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_02: Um but we do have quite a few alumni.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_02: Um and we also have present students.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_02: I'd say there are a lot of present students who follow us as well.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_02: And they like to see themselves.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, I'm usually walking around.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_02: If something's happening at the school, I'll be walking around with my camera and I'll just check with them.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_02: Do you want to, do you want to be on the gram?
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_02: This is for the gram.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_02: And they're like, no, no, my hair's not good, I'm not ready.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_02: Or they're like, yes, yes, I want to be on the gram.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_02: So um, yeah, they like to see themselves and you know, the activities going on and and share the photos on their own accounts.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_00: So sister, I presume yourself and well, I know yourself and the other sisters at the school and the teachers would have plenty of react in interaction with um uh parents um of the students.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um do you yourself um uh have conversations with the parents or or do the parents sometimes raise concerns about the their their daughter's use of social media?
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_00: And maybe if there are parents out there who um are not sure about um their child their children and and their use of social media, maybe some advice that you might give to parents to who to work with their their young people who are on social media and maybe are struggling with it or in terms of your interpretation.
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so so I really feel for the parents because there are so many things out there and it's you know it's constantly changing and moving.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_02: Um I know for the school, each of our students is given an iPad for their learning, but we actually have certain restrictions on it that after a certain time, you know, certain apps go away or appear.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_02: As well as parents are allowed to set um different restrictions on it.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_02: They, I think I believe they can contact the school and have restrictions set on the iPad itself.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um I also know that we have some students where their parents are very involved in their social media use, so they'll be allowed, let's say, half an hour on TikTok a day and they're present there, you know, in the same room as the young person while they're using it or Snapchat.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_02: Um so we have some parents sometimes commenting on our social media, always usually positive things.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but there are different tools available.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's a moving target though, because you know, social media is always changing very quickly.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_02: And also at times, um if if a young person also has ways to sort of get around some of the restrictions.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_02: Um so just to be aware of that, you know, there there can be times there might be another account or another phone entirely, like a burner phone or a phone that they, you know, we've encountered that.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_02: So Finstagram or you know, if they have to turn in their phone, they'll also have a backup phone that they use.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, I I it is Am I right?
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_02: I'm right, right?
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_02: You're like surprised that I know that, but I'm right.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_02: Um so yeah, to be involved, I would say to ask questions, even so are you guys friends with your parents on your social media accounts?
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_02: So that's so for the parents to also be followers, or although there is also the Finsta, the fake Instagram accounts, but for the parents to to be on social media themselves too.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_02: I have to say, you know, it was really an enlightening experience for me where you know, we help manage the sisters account as well as a school account.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_02: And occasionally you'll have a comment that's maybe not so nice or not positive or um, you know, a little a little mean.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_02: But you know, it was it's a great experience because you see psychologically too, there, you know, the effect of why are they writing that?
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_02: That's so mean.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, you can see like, I mean, I had the experience of, oh my gosh, should I say something?
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_02: I don't want to start like a a war on social media.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_02: I don't want to get into the comments and you know, how it can kind of invade the rest of your life as well, right?
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_02: Without those boundaries in place.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_02: And also how, you know, people might say things on social media that they wouldn't necessarily say in person.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_02: So that helped me really with an understanding of what some of our young people have to face with some of the drama that follows them.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, back in the day, any drama you had in school would be at the school itself, and then when you went home, maybe there was some sort of protection with your family, and then you see the people the next day at school.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_02: Whereas now your phone is with you always.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_02: So there can be drama with you, you know, at 3 p.m., 10 p.m., 2 a.m.
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_02: Like it's always there.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_02: Present to you.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_02: Um so that's definitely a drama.
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_00: Do young people realize that they could just turn off the phone?
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, but it's hard, right?
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_02: FOMO.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_02: We're talking about like that missing out side of things and um Yeah, especially navigating relationships, um being authentic online, um having the courage.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_00: I was I've been wondering what FOMO is.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_00: Fear of missing out.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_00: Fear of missing out, right?
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_00: Fear of missing out, yes.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_00: It only took me how long to learn that.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_00: But I new word for today, uh Finsta fake Instagram.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_00: I'm learning.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_00: We're all learning.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_00: So but sister, thank you so much.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, want to give Cecile an opportunity if you had one more uh question that you want to take a look at.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_01: I guess uh it's Catholic Schools week coming up.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_01: Any plans at Mary Helps uh that you could have a lot of things.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_01: We have lots of plans.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_02: Sure.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_02: Um it also usually coincides with the feast day of St.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_02: John Bosco on January 31st.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_02: So we will have a mass then.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_02: We also have we're gonna have a big, I don't know if you guys know this already, a tournament, uh Silesion Jeopardy.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_02: We also have Are You Smarter Than a Teacher, where some very um kind and generous teachers have volunteered themselves to be quizzed by the students and they go head to head with with the students on some topics.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_02: Um and then they also dress up as their teachers on that day.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_02: Oh boy.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_02: Which is, you know, if you never thought that you had a particular personal style, you will discover that you do when all the young people come dressed as you, right?
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_00: The Lord teaches us humility in many ways.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, we'll also write some thank you cards to faculty as well as first responders, and we'll have a bunch of events.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_02: Very nice.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_00: Well, um, thanks so much, Sister Christina, and thanks to Caitlin and Emily and uh to the school and Sister Teresa Lee, our uh um the uh chancellor in the diocese and delegate for religious who helped making the connections today.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_00: So thank you, Sister Teresa.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_00: She's watching the background over there.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, you know, hopefully uh maybe Mary Help will be the first of a number of our high schools that can uh help us out and have these conversations because I think they're important to have.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_00: And uh thank you for uh uh blazing the trail, hopefully.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_00: Uh uh but uh but but thanks so much for your time and and for all that you've shared.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for having us Emily and Caitlin.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_00: And I think Cecile's gonna give us it out.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I understand you're going on March for Life.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_00: Looking forward Yeah, please pray for uh the cold is okay, but let's hope for not too much snow in Washington.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_00: But uh please God it'll be a good day.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_00: And um it's uh wonderful to see the young church at uh come together from all over the country on behalf of life and um with love and um and prayers for moms in need and um difficult situations, and uh but praying for a greater respect for the dignity and value of every human life for the moment of conception, and and so we ask the Lord to bless our country and and bless those who will be um participating in the march.
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_00: And please keep us in your prayers.
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, amen.
• 42:34
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• 43:10
  SPEAKER_00: And thank you to Cecile and congratulations on hosting for the first time.
• 43:14
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• 43:15
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• 43:16
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• 43:19
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• 43:20
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