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Capítulo 061: Live at Cardinal Stritch · Locatora Radio [A Radiophonic Novela]

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Speaker 1: Radio, radio Radio Commies, a myth and bullshit. A radio
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Speaker 1: phonic novella Look Radio hosted by Man Welcome. Can you
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Speaker 1: hear me? Yeah? Okay, so welcome bueno noche. Can you
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Speaker 1: hear me? I'm very self spoken. UM, So before we
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Speaker 1: get started, we wanted to ask of you guys to
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Speaker 1: please silence your phone since it is a live recording.
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Speaker 1: So before we get started, like really started, we'd like
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Speaker 1: to just thank you all for being here, for sharing
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Speaker 1: this space with us. I'm spending your Thursday evening with us.
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Speaker 1: UM we are well to introduce ourselves. I'm and we
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Speaker 1: are the leaders of Dreamer's Welcome, a student org that
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Speaker 1: was founded to fight for and provide resources for the
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Speaker 1: undocumented and documented students on campus as well as in Milwaukee. UM,
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Speaker 1: we are so happy to have had this opportunity to
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Speaker 1: bring Look to Milwaukee to campus is Stritch. And with
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Speaker 1: that being said, Look at the Radio is a radio
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Speaker 1: funding novella that celebrates the experiences and um brilliances of
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Speaker 1: women in firms of color. So with that, without further ado,
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Speaker 1: please help us welcome Look at a Radio. Thank you
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Speaker 1: for that introduction. Thank you, Hi, Milwaukee, how are you doing? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming out tonight, for inviting us.
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Speaker 1: This is our first time in the Midwest, the first
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Speaker 1: time in Milwa, Milwaukee, in Wisconsin, everything, And when they
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Speaker 1: picked us up from the airport, we were like, so
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Speaker 1: where are we? Exactly this the Midwest is the North?
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Speaker 1: I was like, where are the Great Lakes? Are we
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Speaker 1: close to that? You know, we're for l A. So
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Speaker 1: you know, everything in between l A and New York
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Speaker 1: is Chicago. You know, we really don't know any other geography.
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Speaker 1: The US education system it's flawed, it's it's flot um.
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Speaker 1: But so we're local thought our radio. We are a
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Speaker 1: radiophonic novella archiving the legacies and brilliance of women in
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Speaker 1: firms of color. I'm Fosa and I'm Mala, and we
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Speaker 1: are a radiophonic novella. And a radiophonic novella is really
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Speaker 1: just a very extra way of saying a podcast. We're
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Speaker 1: a podcast, and maybe you were expecting a different image
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Speaker 1: of podcasters, like uh, little anemic looking white guys. So
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Speaker 1: I'm very sorry if we're disappointing tonight, that's no, no, no, no,
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Speaker 1: We're not sorry. We're not sorry. So thank you all
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Speaker 1: for inviting us to Cardinal Stritch. It's really exciting for
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Speaker 1: us to be here. We talked about the fact that
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Speaker 1: we went to Catholic school. You want to talk a
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Speaker 1: little bit about Catholic school, guest okay um. So I
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Speaker 1: went to Catholic school K through twelve. So my first
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Speaker 1: time at a public institution was actually at the university
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Speaker 1: that I went to. So I went to UC Santa Barbara.
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Speaker 1: And that was, like I said, my first time, no uniform,
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Speaker 1: got to like, you know, actually went to all girls
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Speaker 1: school for Catholic school for high school. So very much
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Speaker 1: culture shock when I went to UC Santa Barbara. And
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Speaker 1: if you know anything about Santa Barbara, you know that
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Speaker 1: it's a predominantly white school. So it was in experience
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Speaker 1: to say the least. I mean not only that, but
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Speaker 1: you went to a convent. I did. I went to
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Speaker 1: a convent. The also escaped the convent I had. I
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Speaker 1: had nuns as teachers. Like I'm like, kid, you not
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Speaker 1: I graduated in two thousand elevens. I wasn't that long ago, right,
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Speaker 1: It wasn't that long ago. We're not We're not that
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Speaker 1: you know what? You know what? Also, I haven't shared
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Speaker 1: this detail with you. I don't know if you know,
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Speaker 1: but um, my uniforms were actually pink. I had pink
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Speaker 1: polos stopping on polos and knee high socks on Branson's
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Speaker 1: Day one. She still dresses that way. I still do
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Speaker 1: little mini skirts. Yes, you know. I went to Catholic
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Speaker 1: school to um kindergarten through eighth grade and my mother
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Speaker 1: was the librarian at the Catholic school that I attended,
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Speaker 1: And we talk about on the podcast, among other things.
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Speaker 1: We have a capito that's called multidimensional Ho. And when
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Speaker 1: we say Ho, we we take it to mean heaven
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Speaker 1: on Earth. Right, Yes, you can use that, take that,
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Speaker 1: use that, use that hashtag it um heaven on Earth.
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Speaker 1: So we talk about multidimensional Ho, right, And a lot
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Speaker 1: of that comes from our experiences in Catholic household and
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Speaker 1: being latinas being Catholics, And what we learned is that
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Speaker 1: Catholic school they try and suppress your sexuality, but what
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Speaker 1: they end up doing is they just make you a
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Speaker 1: sneakier ho. You know uh, to be honest, and so um,
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Speaker 1: we carry a lot of that with us into our
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Speaker 1: current content and what we talk about as far as
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Speaker 1: women's sexuality, and so we're happy to be back in
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Speaker 1: a Catholic space talking about ho ship once again. So
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Speaker 1: thank you for having us once again in our natural element,
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Speaker 1: in our natural element, our poor mothers. Does UM I
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Speaker 1: have this story where um, when I was about to
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Speaker 1: get confirmed, Um, I didn't want to get confirmed because
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Speaker 1: I knew that I was queer when my parents didn't know.
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Speaker 1: So I didn't want to get confirmed because well, you know,
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Speaker 1: as Catholics, you know, supposedly nobody's supposed to be gay,
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Speaker 1: rightly going to go to Hell allegedly. So I didn't
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Speaker 1: want to get confirmed, so I kept like, you know,
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Speaker 1: not going, and my mom finally was like, you need
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Speaker 1: to go. So I went, and I missed the retreat.
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Speaker 1: And the reason that I missed the retreat was because
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Speaker 1: I went to my first pride in l A. Worth it.
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Speaker 1: It was worth worth it. Yes, yes, So I'm technically
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Speaker 1: not confirmed because I never went to the retreat, but
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Speaker 1: I had the ceremony so at least at the party,
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Speaker 1: and that's what matters most exactly. I was blessed by
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Speaker 1: the bishop or whomever did that whenever, Yes, truly, I
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Speaker 1: mean that's one piece of our story, right escaping the
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Speaker 1: convents um. You know, the policing of our body, the
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Speaker 1: policing of our body forms, the uniforms. We were recovering Catholics, right,
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Speaker 1: We're not going to dwell on that though, but it's
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Speaker 1: a process or any other recovering Catholics in the room,
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Speaker 1: is that a process for any of us? And we
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Speaker 1: are we are at a Catholic university, So I mean,
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Speaker 1: you know, no shame, this is our experience. This is
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Speaker 1: our experience. So anyway, so tonight, you know we're gonna
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Speaker 1: be talking about our origin story. And you know, in
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Speaker 1: true local fashion, our origin stories actually that of a
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Speaker 1: millennial love story because we met on the internet. Right,
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Speaker 1: How many of you chap hands have Internet friends. You've
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Speaker 1: never met them, but you follow them, you comment on
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Speaker 1: all their pictures, you send them d ms, you send
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Speaker 1: them memes. Right, yeah, exactly, So in true true millennial fashion,
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Speaker 1: that's how we met, Mala, Can you tell them how
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Speaker 1: we met in person for the first time? Yes? So, Um,
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Speaker 1: if you were at our femtech workshop earlier, some of
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Speaker 1: this might sound a little bit familiar. If you're an
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Speaker 1: avid look on mode and have heard every beat the low,
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Speaker 1: this also might sound a little bit familiar, but since
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Speaker 1: we're new to Milwaukee and Milwaukee is new to us,
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Speaker 1: we want to introduce ourselves, right. So we were following
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Speaker 1: each other online for several years. We're both from l A,
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Speaker 1: l A Natives, but we had never met in real life.
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Speaker 1: Like Diosa said, she went to UC Santa Barbara, I
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Speaker 1: went to Tufts in Massachusetts. I studied abroad in London.
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Speaker 1: We were still following each other. We graduate, we moved
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Speaker 1: back to l A. And we're online and we're on
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Speaker 1: Facebook and we see that an event has been announced
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Speaker 1: and there are these two collectives, Uh, Latina Rebels. Who's
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Speaker 1: ever heard of Latina Rebels the Instagram account? Yes, so
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Speaker 1: Latina Rebels and then Shechin Going off Fire? If anybody
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Speaker 1: has heard of Chin Going off Fire? Yes, the Poetry collective.
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Speaker 1: So we're on Facebook separately because we haven't met yet,
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Speaker 1: and we see that Chin Going on Fire and Latina
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Speaker 1: Rebels are having a meet up in downtown l A
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Speaker 1: and right synergy and so I remember seeing that and thinking,
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Speaker 1: oh my g like every Latino woman of color who
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Speaker 1: hasn't on Instagram account is going to be there, and
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Speaker 1: I need to go meet these women. You know that
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Speaker 1: was like, really, my impetus. So I got cute, I
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Speaker 1: got dressed. I remember what you were wearing. You tell
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Speaker 1: them you were wearing a full nude like two piece set,
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Speaker 1: and you had a burgundy lip and you still had
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Speaker 1: a long bob. That's exactly what I was wearing, remember,
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Speaker 1: And you were wearing You were wearing this blue and
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Speaker 1: white short, like this little mini dress and I had
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Speaker 1: like a floral pattern to it, and with your hair
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Speaker 1: purple then and your hair was purple. Then she was
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Speaker 1: a vision, right like I saw her and I was like, Yosa,
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Speaker 1: is that you? And that's how we met in real
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Speaker 1: life again, the internet just being this character, right, this
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Speaker 1: ongoing character in our story, it brought us together. We
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Speaker 1: met in real life. We start hanging out. Yeah, we
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Speaker 1: start hanging out. We start partying a lot, a lot,
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Speaker 1: a lot, a lot, a lot too much because we had,
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Speaker 1: you know, in similar ways, had just moved back home
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Speaker 1: from being away and we were figuring out our new
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Speaker 1: life in l a. Right, how how do we function
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Speaker 1: now as adults? Right? How do we function now with
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Speaker 1: our degrees and our jobs, living back at home, dating,
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Speaker 1: having sex lives, you know, while still living under mom's
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Speaker 1: roof trying to have sex lives. So what do we do?
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Speaker 1: So we were going out a lot, right, and that's
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Speaker 1: you know, Mala was someone that I followed, like she said,
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Speaker 1: followed for many years, and I loved her photos. She
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Speaker 1: always posted the most amazing looks. You were always very stylized,
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Speaker 1: and your ex boyfriend was always taking your pictures. He's
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Speaker 1: another recurring character who will come up later. Right, So,
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Speaker 1: and I had the idea to start a podcast. Mala
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Speaker 1: was the first and only person that I thought of, right,
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Speaker 1: So we were meant to meet that night. Um even
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Speaker 1: that night, there were I kid you not like seventy
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Speaker 1: girls at the bar. Seventy girls. It was an actual
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Speaker 1: Latina night, like takeover. There were so many of us,
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Speaker 1: were all I G girls like I had all followed
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Speaker 1: each other, so it's like we all knew each other.
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Speaker 1: But we were meeting for the first time. And for
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Speaker 1: whatever reason, you know, MoMA and I both end up
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Speaker 1: at the bathroom and you know, all the girls are
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Speaker 1: always in the bathroom and we were taking pictures and
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Speaker 1: Mala I I look at Mom and I'm like, I
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Speaker 1: don't know, we should do something, and she was, yeah,
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Speaker 1: we should start, like a collective or something, and then
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Speaker 1: we exchange numbers and she tells me about how you
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Speaker 1: were a you went on a date with it with
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Speaker 1: a rich man. I remember that story. Yeah, And I
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Speaker 1: knew then that the one for me when you told
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Speaker 1: me this story. Oh my god. Okay, listen. So after college,
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm at home, I'm broke on board, I'm
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Speaker 1: a little sad um and feeling a little adventurous. Right,
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Speaker 1: So me and my friend we were like, fuck it, Like,
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Speaker 1: let's go on seeking arrangement and set up profiles. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and we did. And I went on one date and
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Speaker 1: this fool wanted to go to a restaurant called b
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Speaker 1: J's First of all um, and so we go and
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Speaker 1: he was like a much older white man and I
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Speaker 1: had like set up. I was smart though, because I
11:18
Speaker 1: did my research. The Internet is your friend. I went
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Speaker 1: on all the sugaring blogs, all the sugar baby websites.
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Speaker 1: I was taking notes. I was learning the tricks of
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Speaker 1: the trade. And I set up a fit take notes ladies.
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Speaker 1: I set up ladies and gents whoever right. I set
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Speaker 1: up a fake Google Voice number, uh, fake email for
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Speaker 1: the Google Voice number. I was like, I will not
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Speaker 1: be traced um and so I give this guy my
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Speaker 1: fake Google voice number, and I sent him a list
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Speaker 1: like parameters, like rules to engage with me. And I
11:48
Speaker 1: was like, number one, when we get there and you call,
11:51
Speaker 1: you call the monetary item that they give you a gift. Right,
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Speaker 1: I'm like, you were to give you my gift at
11:58
Speaker 1: the beginning of the date in the first five minutes,
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Speaker 1: or I will leave. You are to sit across from me,
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Speaker 1: not next to me. Or I will leave, you will
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Speaker 1: not hug me, or I will leave. I will leave
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Speaker 1: the restaurant first, and you are to wait ten minutes.
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Speaker 1: Or I don't know what else. I took a knife
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Speaker 1: from my grandma's kitchen, put it in my purse. Um,
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Speaker 1: I went and I was given a thousand dollars in
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Speaker 1: cash that night. Yes, yes, that's when I knew that
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Speaker 1: this girl was gonna be my home girl. That was
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Speaker 1: that's when she knew. I knew it in that moment.
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Speaker 1: So where where were we? I don't know, Oh yeah,
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Speaker 1: so podcasting, we're hanging out. Oh yeah, so we're hanging out.
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Speaker 1: We're becoming friends. Were getting to know l A again
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Speaker 1: as adults now because when we left for college, we
12:45
Speaker 1: were eighteen. We were teens, we were babies, right. So
12:49
Speaker 1: now we're back, we're getting to know the city. There's
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Speaker 1: all these like women of color collectives creating culture and
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Speaker 1: creating nightlife and whether that's now going positivity Pride. Has
13:01
Speaker 1: anybody ever heard of MPP right now going to positivity
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Speaker 1: Pride later? Like the Selena Techno Cumbia parties that are
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Speaker 1: that are thrown the parties, like all these collectives of
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Speaker 1: women of color, of queer people of color organizing online
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Speaker 1: and then bringing their organizing into nightlife and into the
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Speaker 1: cultural space in l A. So we're engaging in that space.
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Speaker 1: And then one day THEOSA texts me and what did
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Speaker 1: you say? I said, um, hey, mama, do you want
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Speaker 1: to start a podcast with me? And that was it.
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Speaker 1: She said I'm down. I said I do, and and
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Speaker 1: it was over from there. And so then we talked
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Speaker 1: about it. We talked about it. So we sat down
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Speaker 1: at a local coffee shop in l A. It's pretty popular.
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Speaker 1: It's called Monica, and so we sat down there and
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Speaker 1: that's when we conceptualized our baby. When we win. Look
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Speaker 1: at that, our radio was born. And you want to
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Speaker 1: tell them a little bit about how we started what
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Speaker 1: was the process like of naming look at the radio,
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Speaker 1: of naming our child? Naming our child, Yeah, selecting the name,
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Speaker 1: selecting the name. So we had to choose a name
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Speaker 1: for our baby for our podcast, and we hadn't told
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Speaker 1: We didn't tell anybody we were going to do this.
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Speaker 1: No friends, no family, There was no teaser, there was
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Speaker 1: no sneak peak, there was no announcement. We sat down
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Speaker 1: and we thought to ourselves, what is already out there
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Speaker 1: in the Latin X space, especially online, because that's where
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Speaker 1: the innovation and the creativity and the underground work is happening,
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Speaker 1: is on the internet because it's a free platform, you know,
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Speaker 1: and everybody has a phone. So we noticed that there's
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Speaker 1: a lot of chingana and breu ha and a lot
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Speaker 1: of identifying words that were being kind of used a
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Speaker 1: lot over and over and over again. And those are
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Speaker 1: great identities and great words. But our question was what
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Speaker 1: does not exist? What can we contribute that is not there?
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Speaker 1: What lane can we build If someone does a search
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Speaker 1: of our project, do they have to score roll all
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Speaker 1: the way down twenty hits before they find us? Or
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Speaker 1: we're going to create something that's going to be completely original.
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Speaker 1: The first hit on anybody's search, no matter the platform.
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Speaker 1: So we're trying to think, what is maybe a phrase
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Speaker 1: that is cultural that people can recognize and cling to.
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Speaker 1: What is a word or a meaning that we can
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Speaker 1: flip and change up. So we were just doing word searches,
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Speaker 1: word searches, and then we came upon the word and
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Speaker 1: what is a local radio host? Yes, so when women
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Speaker 1: are talking a lot and we're speaking our truth and
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Speaker 1: maybe we're saying something unpopular, but it's still true. What
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Speaker 1: are we called look us? We're crazy? And even if
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Speaker 1: we're not saying anything, you know, unpopular, maybe we're just
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Speaker 1: living our lives as the way we want to do it.
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Speaker 1: Maybe we're living our lives different from how our parents
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Speaker 1: want us to live it. Maybe we're staying out late.
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Speaker 1: We're still called what look us? Exactly? So we're look
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Speaker 1: because we're gonna have a podcast. We're gonna be too
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Speaker 1: locals on the internet talking ship. So we're look at
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Speaker 1: that our radio very fitting. So, uh, the name was
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Speaker 1: born it's a completely original name. We love our name. Um,
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Speaker 1: it's really doesn't exist to anywhere else. And we share
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Speaker 1: that story when we come to universities and when we
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Speaker 1: talk to students um really too. You know, there's this
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Speaker 1: kind of notion like you don't have to reinvent the wheel,
16:29
Speaker 1: but but you also can if you want to. You know,
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Speaker 1: you can take something that's never been done before and
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Speaker 1: make it yours and put your name on it and
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Speaker 1: put your original idea out there, right, and it just
16:38
Speaker 1: might be fabulous, right, I mean, And that also, that
16:42
Speaker 1: process didn't come out of thin air. We had a
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Speaker 1: lot of experience when we were undergrads and we were
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Speaker 1: working at the university, right. So when I was at
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Speaker 1: UC Santa Barbara, I worked at the Women's Center, the
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Speaker 1: Multicultural Center, and the LGBT Center, So I was involved
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Speaker 1: with a lot of the programming. So I had gained
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Speaker 1: that experience to book people to come, to follow through
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Speaker 1: with contracts, to invite people to the events. So all
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Speaker 1: of that that y'all are doing already is transferable to
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Speaker 1: the to the real world, right. And that's also why
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Speaker 1: we're able to do this project now because of what
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Speaker 1: we learned. Yeah, and we were talking about this at dinner,
17:19
Speaker 1: um that you know, and me too. In college, I
17:23
Speaker 1: was heavily involved with the Latino Center on campus. I
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Speaker 1: worked at the Women's Center, I lived in Lacasa, Latina
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Speaker 1: like heavily involved with people of color organizing and activism,
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Speaker 1: and often on our campuses there is like negative down
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Speaker 1: talk on the multicultural work and the multicultural centers and
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Speaker 1: Black studies and Native studies and um, you know, Latino studies,
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Speaker 1: Chicano studies. There is still today, um this sort of
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Speaker 1: assumption that it's extra or it's fluff, or it's you know,
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Speaker 1: adjacent to the core study instead of being the core study.
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Speaker 1: And what we want to impart is that whatever multicultural
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Speaker 1: um ethnic studies type work you're doing, it is of
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Speaker 1: extreme value. It is of extreme importance. It is scholarship,
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Speaker 1: It is meaningful, it is transferable skills you can build,
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Speaker 1: you can create. Keep doing it right, keep putting on
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Speaker 1: events like this and bringing in creatives and folks that
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Speaker 1: are pushing boundaries and doing things that are not being
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Speaker 1: offered in the mainstream curriculum. It is of value. So
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Speaker 1: we want to make sure that students here that wherever
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Speaker 1: it is that you are in your journey, don't be afraid,
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Speaker 1: you know, to embrace yourself in the space that you occupy.
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Speaker 1: So that was our naming process, yes, but we have
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Speaker 1: multiple names for the pras. So our second name that
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Speaker 1: we have is radiophonic novella, and a radiophonic novella, like
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Speaker 1: we said in the beginning, is an extra way of
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Speaker 1: saying a podcast. But why did we choose a radiophonic novella? Well,
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Speaker 1: Mala likes to invent a lot of words, first of all,
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Speaker 1: So radiophonic is not necessarily it's actually not a word, right,
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Speaker 1: but we made it a word. So why did we
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Speaker 1: choose radio phonic NOVELA? Well, I mean, part of I
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Speaker 1: think is like inventing new language. Is like how many
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Speaker 1: of us speak some type of spanglish or slang, right,
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Speaker 1: hybrid languages, whatever the combination is. I think it's already
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Speaker 1: part of like our experience and our culture is to
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Speaker 1: speak hybrid languages and speak new language. So it kind
19:23
Speaker 1: of just came naturally. Well, we'll just it doesn't exist,
19:25
Speaker 1: We'll just invent it. Right. So the radiophonic novella, the
19:27
Speaker 1: way that we define it is, this is a vehicle
19:29
Speaker 1: for storytelling. Um it is following a storyline, a plot line,
19:34
Speaker 1: a narrative arc. It exists, and that narrative arc is
19:38
Speaker 1: our lived experiences and our lives, whether our professional experiences,
19:43
Speaker 1: our personal ones, romantic ones, academic struggles, um, and it's
19:48
Speaker 1: an archive of those things. So we're Latinas and we
19:52
Speaker 1: had to name the podcast multiple times because we have
19:55
Speaker 1: many names, and that's just what we do. That's what
19:57
Speaker 1: we do. And you know, I think something else about
20:00
Speaker 1: the radio part novella Mala is that because as latin as,
20:04
Speaker 1: a novella is such a big part of our households, right,
20:07
Speaker 1: we wanted the podcast to be away for not only
20:11
Speaker 1: for our listeners to engage with us, but for our
20:13
Speaker 1: listeners to engage with each other. So what we found
20:16
Speaker 1: with the Instagram, which we call our listeners by the way,
20:19
Speaker 1: locomotives if if you're not a localmode now you know,
20:22
Speaker 1: is that we call them locomotives, right, and they engage
20:25
Speaker 1: with each other online. So the way that we met
20:28
Speaker 1: online is the way we hope our locomotives are also
20:30
Speaker 1: meeting online and becoming friends. So the way a novella
20:34
Speaker 1: can be a central role in our household as Latinos
20:37
Speaker 1: or Latino X folks, we want the podcast to be
20:40
Speaker 1: a way for folks to build community with each other,
20:43
Speaker 1: whether that be online or in person. At events. That's
20:47
Speaker 1: something really important that we can take the podcast outside
20:51
Speaker 1: of the studio space and outside of the Internet and
20:53
Speaker 1: actually in real life. Do you want to share, um,
20:56
Speaker 1: what some of our listeners are locomotives are doing while
20:59
Speaker 1: they're listening to the podcast. Yes. So one of my
21:02
Speaker 1: favorite things about our listeners is that they'll tweet at
21:05
Speaker 1: us and tell us what they're doing. One of my
21:07
Speaker 1: favorite ones is when they say, oh, it's oyes soa
21:14
Speaker 1: I'm going to clean my house, so I'm gonna put
21:15
Speaker 1: on right. Um. We've had people say that they're like
21:19
Speaker 1: grading papers because their teachers or their coding. Um, I'm
21:24
Speaker 1: listening to the Multidimensional Home episode. One of my favorites. Yeah,
21:28
Speaker 1: one of my favorites is that we have a mother
21:31
Speaker 1: that listens to the podcast with her eighteen year old daughter,
21:35
Speaker 1: and that's probably like one of my favorite stories that
21:39
Speaker 1: we've heard. Yeah. I think one of my favorites is
21:41
Speaker 1: there was a local Moore who this movehead works I
21:45
Speaker 1: believe in a juvenile detention center. Yeah, this this look
21:50
Speaker 1: I'm more shared with us that she works in a
21:51
Speaker 1: juvenile detention center for young boys, for for young men
21:55
Speaker 1: who are predominantly um, boys of color, and that whatever
22:02
Speaker 1: traumas and life situations funneled them right school to prison
22:07
Speaker 1: pipeline into that system. Uh. She has them listening to
22:12
Speaker 1: our podcasts so that they can learn about inequality, learn
22:16
Speaker 1: about oppression, but also learn about toxic masculinity, and also
22:21
Speaker 1: learn about violence against women, and also learn about machi
22:25
Speaker 1: small right, and how even in communities of color, we
22:29
Speaker 1: see this perpetuation of machista behavior and violence against women, right,
22:37
Speaker 1: And that when we talk about violence against women, the
22:40
Speaker 1: only perpetrators are not white men, right. That these things
22:45
Speaker 1: happen in our households and in our neighborhoods, and in
22:47
Speaker 1: our schools and in our communities. And so for me,
22:49
Speaker 1: it was really important to hear that for boys of
22:52
Speaker 1: color to hear these things and process them and talk
22:55
Speaker 1: about them and think about them, right, and learn from
22:58
Speaker 1: women's voices. The thing I like to about the podcast
23:01
Speaker 1: is you're listening to the podcast is you can't interrupt us,
23:03
Speaker 1: and you can't talk back. You have to listen. Ye yes, Um,
23:08
Speaker 1: I was gonna add. I love when our listeners come
23:10
Speaker 1: with their husbands and their usbins listen to the podcast
23:12
Speaker 1: and they learn and they hopefully treat their wives the
23:16
Speaker 1: way they should be treated, you know, like if we
23:18
Speaker 1: can impart any wisdom on the men, it's that treat
23:21
Speaker 1: your partner with respect, you know, give her space, let
23:25
Speaker 1: her have full autonomy over not let her but you
23:27
Speaker 1: know what I mean, support her dream or her autonomy,
23:30
Speaker 1: report her agency. Uh. It's interesting because we do have
23:36
Speaker 1: a number, a good number of listeners who are men
23:39
Speaker 1: and who are straight men right, and whether they've been
23:41
Speaker 1: turned onto the work because of a woman in their
23:44
Speaker 1: life where they somehow stumbled upon a thirst trap and
23:47
Speaker 1: then figured out, Oh, we also have interesting things to say.
23:51
Speaker 1: Whatever the process is, we're we we enjoy that, we
23:55
Speaker 1: are like happy about that. We make it very clear
23:57
Speaker 1: that we do not create for straight men at all
24:01
Speaker 1: or ever. That's not our intention and not our goal.
24:03
Speaker 1: This is not the space, but if you would like
24:06
Speaker 1: to enter humbly and learn right, welcome. We have a
24:12
Speaker 1: few of our like consistent stands. There was one where
24:17
Speaker 1: do you I can never remember his name, but I
24:20
Speaker 1: know it's like which what I'm talking about the way
24:21
Speaker 1: that he was like you should have a look at
24:23
Speaker 1: the automobile. Yes, that one. So we have like consistent
24:27
Speaker 1: stands men that are like respectful, don't send anything creepy
24:31
Speaker 1: or weird, but are like consistently like rooting for us. Yeah,
24:37
Speaker 1: it is really important and we appreciate that. I think
24:40
Speaker 1: this is a good segue into like more about us
24:43
Speaker 1: obviously who we are, who we are. So, um, you
24:47
Speaker 1: know when we started that we we work full time.
24:50
Speaker 1: We have our day jobs, right, we do this podcast.
24:53
Speaker 1: It's our passion. This is like our second, third, and
24:55
Speaker 1: fourth shift is what we call it. And when we're
24:59
Speaker 1: not pot casting, we're doing a whole lot of other stuff.
25:02
Speaker 1: So do you want to talk about like what you
25:03
Speaker 1: were doing when we when we first started. Yeah, So
25:06
Speaker 1: when we first started, I was actually a community organizer,
25:09
Speaker 1: so I was working with undocumented women, immigrant women and
25:13
Speaker 1: facilitating projects, assisting them and facilitating projects in their community.
25:18
Speaker 1: So a lot of them because of the community that
25:20
Speaker 1: they lived, and they were very, very interested in advocating
25:24
Speaker 1: for safety in the parks because they wanted their kids
25:28
Speaker 1: to be able to just be in the park and
25:30
Speaker 1: be kids right and play. And also, um, we know
25:33
Speaker 1: that in communities of color, there is a higher rate
25:36
Speaker 1: of pedestrian deaths, so fatal crashes, So that was Another
25:41
Speaker 1: thing that they were they were advocating for was safe streets,
25:44
Speaker 1: safe parks, and also healthy communities, so making fresh food
25:49
Speaker 1: and fruits accessible to their community. So that's something that
25:53
Speaker 1: I was working on, and you know, it allowed me
25:56
Speaker 1: to learn from these women, right to see the they
26:00
Speaker 1: were very innovative in their community and how they were
26:02
Speaker 1: making changes. And that also, you know, inspired me to
26:07
Speaker 1: do something other than my than my job. Right, I
26:09
Speaker 1: want to do something else. I can have my day
26:12
Speaker 1: job and I can also have a passion project. So
26:14
Speaker 1: that is when I when I reached out to Mala
26:17
Speaker 1: and I'm no longer you know, as a community organizer,
26:19
Speaker 1: and now I work in the private sector. So I
26:22
Speaker 1: have really good health insurance now, thank God, have PPO honestly,
26:27
Speaker 1: and I don't have to pay for it, so dream
26:30
Speaker 1: that's amazing. Um, So I really good health insurance, and
26:34
Speaker 1: um I work at nine to five, And that was
26:36
Speaker 1: when I left that job. That was my biggest goal
26:40
Speaker 1: was not that I want to find my career job,
26:42
Speaker 1: because well this is my career, right, but I need
26:44
Speaker 1: something to sustain me. So I wanted a nine to
26:47
Speaker 1: five that I can clock in, clock out, um and
26:50
Speaker 1: be able to work on the podcast, you know, after
26:53
Speaker 1: for our second and third fourth shift, like you said,
26:56
Speaker 1: And well, now I work with individuals with developmental disabilities
27:00
Speaker 1: and we provide living assistance and services for their community.
27:03
Speaker 1: And we're all over l A. So it's still social
27:06
Speaker 1: justice oriented, you know, it's we're still I'm still providing
27:09
Speaker 1: a service, um, and I get to do the podcast,
27:12
Speaker 1: So that's exciting. Yeah, when we first met. This is
27:16
Speaker 1: a survivor centered podcast as well. And when we say survivor,
27:20
Speaker 1: we're talking about survivors of assault and abuse, right. Um.
27:25
Speaker 1: You maybe the word survivor has become much more popular
27:30
Speaker 1: and mainstream over the past few years with the me
27:33
Speaker 1: too and the times Up movement. Um, but these types
27:36
Speaker 1: of interactions, assault of interactions have been going on, like
27:40
Speaker 1: for Time immortem right, so Time Immortal. So I was
27:44
Speaker 1: working as a first responder at a rape crisis center
27:47
Speaker 1: when we first met. So. I was working the hotline,
27:51
Speaker 1: the l A Rape and Battery Hotline, answering crisis calls,
27:54
Speaker 1: UM seven emergency response, responding out to the intensive care unit,
27:59
Speaker 1: to the Emerging see room, to the start center for
28:01
Speaker 1: rape kits, the police stations, going to criminal court with
28:05
Speaker 1: my clients, um helping my clients to get restraining orders,
28:09
Speaker 1: to confidentially change their names and relocate. And what I
28:14
Speaker 1: saw in the city of Los Angeles was that the
28:16
Speaker 1: vast majority of the survivors that came to work with
28:18
Speaker 1: us were women of color, the vast, vast, vast majority, right.
28:23
Speaker 1: And it was very illuminating to me because I knew
28:25
Speaker 1: that we had issues in our community. We've been experiencing
28:28
Speaker 1: street harassment since we were little girls, you know. And
28:31
Speaker 1: I live in a Latino community, and my goal is
28:34
Speaker 1: not to specifically bashed Latino men, but I would like
28:37
Speaker 1: for Latino men to be nicer to me, to leave
28:41
Speaker 1: me alone sometimes, right, and doing that work, and just
28:45
Speaker 1: being in the trenches and in the gutter and seeing
28:48
Speaker 1: the types of violences that women like us right are
28:52
Speaker 1: are exposed to, often with very little support, very little resources,
28:57
Speaker 1: fighting with police to even take a crime rep work,
29:00
Speaker 1: the district attorney's office never filing cases. Right, it was
29:04
Speaker 1: like a miracle if the city attorney or district attorney
29:07
Speaker 1: wanted to file charges um and just and and teaching
29:11
Speaker 1: self defense classes, again predominantly to women of color, and
29:15
Speaker 1: just really learning that in our communities to stay safe.
29:19
Speaker 1: We cannot rely on the police. Sometimes we cannot rely
29:22
Speaker 1: on the men in our lives. We end up relying
29:25
Speaker 1: on each other ashes and as survivors and sharing information
29:28
Speaker 1: with one another. So in starting the podcast as a
29:31
Speaker 1: vehicle for storytelling, these stories were at the forefront. And
29:36
Speaker 1: I identify as a survivor right of sexual assault as
29:39
Speaker 1: well and of relationship violence. And that's part of both
29:42
Speaker 1: of our narratives. So when we talk about things like
29:46
Speaker 1: fem defense, it's coming from a personal experience, professional, sociological, historical,
29:54
Speaker 1: and we try and ground all of our episodes in
29:56
Speaker 1: those types of elements when we talk about these things. Yes, yes,
30:03
Speaker 1: so where are we gonna? So that's what we're doing
30:08
Speaker 1: when we first are we continuing with our names? We
30:11
Speaker 1: have another name because we have many names. We do
30:15
Speaker 1: because this is a part of the storytelling, right, And
30:19
Speaker 1: we also go by last Mommies of myth and Bullshit.
30:21
Speaker 1: Does that line sound familiar to anyone? Last mommy Mommies
30:24
Speaker 1: of myth and bullshit? Where's that from? Where's that line from? Yes?
30:32
Speaker 1: Loose women right right? So she has a poem and
30:35
Speaker 1: she says, I am the woman of myth and Bullshit, true,
30:38
Speaker 1: I authored some of it. And for us, we're creating
30:42
Speaker 1: our own narratives, right, and storytelling has been a part
30:46
Speaker 1: of our communities, you know, for centuries essentially, um. But
30:51
Speaker 1: as the podcast, we're actually archiving it. So we're archiving
30:55
Speaker 1: the geniuses and brilliance and legacies of women in firms
30:57
Speaker 1: of colors. So not only our own stories, but the
31:00
Speaker 1: stories of all the women and the fems that we interview, right,
31:02
Speaker 1: the artist, the poets, the creators, the chefs, all these
31:07
Speaker 1: different women that come on the show and talk about
31:10
Speaker 1: the work that they're doing. Right. So that's that's what
31:13
Speaker 1: we're authoring, that's what we're creating, and that's what we're archiving. Yeah. Um,
31:17
Speaker 1: we talk about the podcast is being, um a work
31:21
Speaker 1: in counter narrative. And when we say that, we like
31:25
Speaker 1: to take like old thoughts and adages and opinions and
31:32
Speaker 1: flip them and find the other side. So our very
31:34
Speaker 1: first CuPy below we called it looka epistemologies. Do you
31:38
Speaker 1: want to talk a little bit about like the content
31:39
Speaker 1: of that first episode? So in epistemology, Um, what is
31:43
Speaker 1: an epistemology? Y'aller college students, I know that you know,
31:47
Speaker 1: I know that we have Socich students in here. You
31:49
Speaker 1: read yes, the study of religion, UM, so close close?
31:57
Speaker 1: Did you want to answer? We guy? I saw you nodding. Okay.
32:00
Speaker 1: So epistemology is the study, uh and knowing of of something, right,
32:05
Speaker 1: So the way that we examine something. So that's what
32:07
Speaker 1: an epistemology is. It's the point of view of something.
32:10
Speaker 1: So for loca pistemologies, we're examining UM all our content
32:16
Speaker 1: from a loca lens essentially, So that's the lens that
32:19
Speaker 1: we're examining. The narratives, So the counter culture that we're
32:23
Speaker 1: talking about are the counter narratives that we're talking about um.
32:26
Speaker 1: For one, Well, for our very first episode, we talked
32:27
Speaker 1: about La Malinche. So who's familiar with right and so
32:35
Speaker 1: generally in our oral histories and our understandings of La Malinche,
32:39
Speaker 1: is she a positive, celebrated woman in our histories? No?
32:44
Speaker 1: What is she in our histories? To the trader? So
32:48
Speaker 1: the story of La malin you want to go? So
32:51
Speaker 1: the sorry la right is that when the Spanish conquises
32:56
Speaker 1: ended up in the land that we now know is Mexico. Right,
33:00
Speaker 1: that the way that the story is told is that
33:03
Speaker 1: an indigenous woman, uh Malina, that as she has now known,
33:08
Speaker 1: that she was a tridora, that she betrayed her people,
33:12
Speaker 1: and she helped the conquis right um in their conquest
33:19
Speaker 1: of native lands, and that she led them and she
33:22
Speaker 1: but she betrayed her people. And so much of the
33:26
Speaker 1: history of Mexico and the colonization project has been placed
33:30
Speaker 1: the blame squarely on this one indigenous woman's shoulders. Right,
33:35
Speaker 1: And if we think about the dynamics of colonization, the
33:39
Speaker 1: power dynamics, the violence, the genocide, and we begin to
33:43
Speaker 1: unravel this story, it makes less and less sense that
33:47
Speaker 1: an indigenous woman had that kind of power in this
33:49
Speaker 1: context because who was she really? She was actually a
33:52
Speaker 1: young girl, she wasn't a grown woman, and she was
33:55
Speaker 1: also an indigenous woman, meaning then has had add the
34:00
Speaker 1: actual power. Right, Yeah, she was a survivor. She was
34:05
Speaker 1: a survivor of colonization, of sexual violence, of gendered violence. Right,
34:11
Speaker 1: these are contemporary words that we used to describe what
34:14
Speaker 1: she was experiencing. But it's interesting how the scapegoating happens, right,
34:20
Speaker 1: that the entire downfall, right of this of these civilizations
34:24
Speaker 1: can be blamed on one under age indigenous girl somehow.
34:30
Speaker 1: So we took that story and we we we told
34:32
Speaker 1: it from the counter narrative, and we said, wait a second,
34:36
Speaker 1: she's not a trader, she's a victim. Right, how can
34:39
Speaker 1: we reimagine La Malinche and reclaim her as one of
34:43
Speaker 1: our own in our histories? How can we reframe this narrative? Right?
34:47
Speaker 1: The same can be said of a pocahonas right, the
34:51
Speaker 1: Disney Channel and interpretations of pocahonas being in love with
34:54
Speaker 1: her colonizer are false. Right. We could think of a
34:58
Speaker 1: Saka Joeya, Right, These indigenous women who their relationships with
35:03
Speaker 1: white male colonizers, how they've been romanticized our stories of
35:08
Speaker 1: conquest and of violence. So this is what we would
35:11
Speaker 1: call a local pistemology, is finding the flip side of
35:14
Speaker 1: what we of what's been shared with us. Right, and
35:17
Speaker 1: more recently we had our capital where we talk about Laotra. Yes,
35:24
Speaker 1: that's a good one, a counter narrative, right, So let's
35:29
Speaker 1: get into it. Let's talk about it. We're all, we're
35:32
Speaker 1: all from familiar with what is La. If you hear
35:35
Speaker 1: that a woman is referred to as l what might
35:38
Speaker 1: that mean? Who is she? She's the lover. She's the
35:41
Speaker 1: side piece, the mistress, the mistress. Right, there's right, so
35:48
Speaker 1: right is always villainized in every single like every single
35:53
Speaker 1: thing that we can think of, a film, so many songs, right,
35:57
Speaker 1: TV shows, in our personal life, was right in our family, right,
36:01
Speaker 1: there's always la and the downfall of a marriage right
36:06
Speaker 1: is put on the woman, right, but not on the
36:08
Speaker 1: actual man that broke his vows and was cheating. Right.
36:11
Speaker 1: So again it's all. So that is one example of
36:16
Speaker 1: a local pistemology where we think about laodra in a
36:19
Speaker 1: different sense. Maybe you know, there's there are people that
36:23
Speaker 1: enter into uh relationships where they are la utra and
36:28
Speaker 1: what if their mama, what if they're actually benefiting from
36:31
Speaker 1: being laud because they don't have to do any emotional labor.
36:34
Speaker 1: They don't have to do wife work, wifely duties, don't
36:37
Speaker 1: have to like wash anyone's laundry, have to cook for anyone,
36:40
Speaker 1: They don't have to care for another being. Right, So
36:43
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, I don't know. I'm just saying,
36:47
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. Yeah, maybe food for thought,
36:50
Speaker 1: just just the thought, you know. But part of it
36:52
Speaker 1: too is again flipping the script, because when you all
36:58
Speaker 1: you all know who Monica Lewinsky is. Monica. I love
37:02
Speaker 1: Monica Lewinsky. I love Monica le Monica. Where team Jordan
37:05
Speaker 1: would where team Jordan. I follow Monica Lewinsky on Twitter,
37:10
Speaker 1: like Monica Lewinsky for a very long time. And even
37:13
Speaker 1: you know, there's residuals of her experience, like the most
37:16
Speaker 1: hated person in America, the most hated person in America
37:20
Speaker 1: because of her quote unquote affair with then President of
37:24
Speaker 1: the United States, arguably the most powerful man in the world, right,
37:29
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton. Now Bill Clinton was the married one. Bill
37:33
Speaker 1: Clinton was the president, her boss, her boss. She was
37:37
Speaker 1: what three two year old in turn in the White House.
37:41
Speaker 1: And yet somehow, slick willie Bill Clinton is loved and
37:46
Speaker 1: revered by all, no matter what right and that was,
37:50
Speaker 1: and and Monica Lewinsky was like three or four five
37:53
Speaker 1: affairs down the line, right, um. But Monica Lewinsky shouldered
37:59
Speaker 1: all of it, all of the burden, all of the
38:02
Speaker 1: blame for a choice that a married man in public
38:07
Speaker 1: office made repeatedly. But somehow it was her fault. So
38:11
Speaker 1: when we talk about counter narrative and flipping the script
38:13
Speaker 1: when it comes to Laotra, if we're talking about a
38:15
Speaker 1: married man, a man with children, who is making a
38:19
Speaker 1: very intentional choice to step out on his family. Why
38:24
Speaker 1: is the blame always placed on lat Why we want
38:29
Speaker 1: to relocate where the blame really should lie, right and
38:33
Speaker 1: where those power dynamics they actually exist to redirect the
38:37
Speaker 1: anger back to the man, redirect the anger to where
38:39
Speaker 1: it belongs to his full as absolutely right. Well, you
38:43
Speaker 1: know what, and I think the idea of la especially
38:47
Speaker 1: in our community, is very taboo because a lot of
38:50
Speaker 1: our theo's, our fathers will have you know, other families
38:54
Speaker 1: living down the street. Right, So Laotra is very much
38:59
Speaker 1: a part of our community, whether or not we want
39:00
Speaker 1: to talk about it. I'm hot, right, I mean same, no, truly,
39:08
Speaker 1: So like this is an example right of like the
39:10
Speaker 1: type of work that we aim to do with the
39:13
Speaker 1: podcast because we can, because again it's a space that
39:16
Speaker 1: we created for ourselves to explore themes that are relevant
39:20
Speaker 1: to us. Right. Something that we also talked about is sometimes,
39:25
Speaker 1: knowingly or not, you end up being right. Oh my god,
39:33
Speaker 1: the number of men in this world enjoy hiding their
39:39
Speaker 1: girlfriends and their wives and their many children, their pregnant
39:45
Speaker 1: partner and their newborn baby. Is incredible. I see some
39:50
Speaker 1: heads nodding because we know because we've been there, snaps
39:54
Speaker 1: in the back, snaps in the front, exactly. So it's
39:59
Speaker 1: that's part of it to it's real, it's cute, it's okay.
40:02
Speaker 1: It's fun to bash the hoe and the slut and
40:07
Speaker 1: the whore until it becomes you, right, right, because it's
40:12
Speaker 1: not always a choice. Unknowingly, you can enter into some partnership.
40:16
Speaker 1: And this fool has a full last wives, let me
40:19
Speaker 1: count the baby hidden pictures like hidden pictures their public
40:26
Speaker 1: Facebook page. Kine girl, You know what I noticed when
40:30
Speaker 1: I was, you know, single and dating a while ago.
40:34
Speaker 1: Um I realized that we got to a point where
40:37
Speaker 1: men were no longer asking for numbers. They were asking
40:41
Speaker 1: for your snapchat. And you want to know why, because
40:44
Speaker 1: they're shady as hell, and they know that the messages
40:47
Speaker 1: will delete and there's no trace of them actually chatting
40:50
Speaker 1: with you, and they can send you all kinds of pictures,
40:53
Speaker 1: unsolicited pictures. Autely, there was a time where folks were men,
40:58
Speaker 1: not folks. Men were asking for snapchats. Horrible. I don't
41:02
Speaker 1: have a snapchat. I had one, but they don't even
41:04
Speaker 1: know that. They don't need to know that. Yeah, No,
41:08
Speaker 1: I walk into lots of dating situations. Now, I just
41:11
Speaker 1: assume that you have a secret family proed with caution
41:16
Speaker 1: all that way, I can't be disappointed, you know what
41:19
Speaker 1: I mean? The news can only get better from there,
41:22
Speaker 1: Like when it turns out you don't honestly honestly pro
41:26
Speaker 1: tipo tip. Yeah, assume at all times that he's lying
41:32
Speaker 1: wrong probably is, unless he's not. Then pleasant surprise, pleasant surprise.
41:36
Speaker 1: Then we all walk away happy, right right? Right? So yeah,
41:39
Speaker 1: that's a fun that's a fun conversation. What's another favorite
41:44
Speaker 1: of yours that we've done. We've talked a little bit
41:45
Speaker 1: about multi dimensional home. Look on penology, we have not
41:48
Speaker 1: talked about multi dimensional home. Right, you're right, you're right. However,
41:52
Speaker 1: multi dimension of home. We talk about being safe when
41:56
Speaker 1: you're out and about so one thing that we talk
41:58
Speaker 1: about is having a hok. So, a hok hok is
42:05
Speaker 1: your little bag, your purse, your giant bag, your duffel bag,
42:09
Speaker 1: whatever it is that you take with you when you
42:11
Speaker 1: go out to you know, have a little fun. Right,
42:15
Speaker 1: what do you pack to make yourself comfortable? Right, Malla,
42:18
Speaker 1: what do you keep in your hok? It? You know
42:20
Speaker 1: my hok it is retired right now? Right? Well, you
42:23
Speaker 1: know what I should I say that my ho k
42:27
Speaker 1: it is a drawer since I'm in a committed relationship.
42:30
Speaker 1: Now I have my little drawer, so I have my
42:32
Speaker 1: things in there drawer. So you know, the kid is retired,
42:38
Speaker 1: but it's in a drawer now. I love it. Yeah,
42:40
Speaker 1: it's official. Well, um, when I when I was actively
42:45
Speaker 1: utilizing a hoky, I mean, take your own condoms. Always
42:50
Speaker 1: take your own condoms. Check the expiration date, check your
42:53
Speaker 1: own condoms. Yes, because number one, like those of us
42:58
Speaker 1: that you know, for better or for worse, have sex
43:02
Speaker 1: with men. I can't tell you how many grown ass men.
43:08
Speaker 1: While it happened to you back to back, it happens
43:10
Speaker 1: to me many times. And I don't know what I know.
43:13
Speaker 1: It's not me, it's it's not you. It's not you,
43:14
Speaker 1: it's not what am I thinking? It's not me. I'm
43:16
Speaker 1: not the problem. No, but there were a couple of times,
43:19
Speaker 1: like consecutively. Yeah, okay, so the number of adult grown
43:25
Speaker 1: as sucking men that you know, we're on the precipice
43:28
Speaker 1: of something, and they refused to wear condoms, Like I
43:32
Speaker 1: don't wear condoms. I don't dare them. I don't use them.
43:37
Speaker 1: I don't use them. And I'm like what what And i'
43:43
Speaker 1: must I teach sex education? So for me, I'm like
43:48
Speaker 1: run high, you know, like lose my number, like whatever.
43:53
Speaker 1: It's wild. So take your own condoms because you might
43:56
Speaker 1: not get it in if you don't, because they don't
43:58
Speaker 1: always have their own. So there's that. Or they'll pretend
44:01
Speaker 1: that they don't have it. They'll pretend that they don't
44:03
Speaker 1: have one. The store is far, it'll be the store
44:05
Speaker 1: is far, it'll be expired. They'll be holes in it.
44:09
Speaker 1: Oh girls, sneaky. Take your own, Take your own, okay,
44:12
Speaker 1: So what else? What's kid? So if you're gonna be
44:15
Speaker 1: spending the night, you know what I mean? Um, some
44:18
Speaker 1: baby wipes to clean clean up and clean up your
44:21
Speaker 1: makeup so you can be fresh and happy in the morning,
44:23
Speaker 1: so that when you go back home to the house
44:26
Speaker 1: that you share with your entire family. Um, you're not
44:29
Speaker 1: doing the walk of shame. You're not the walk of shames.
44:31
Speaker 1: A little less shameful. There's no shame to this game
44:33
Speaker 1: at all. Have no shame, have no shame. We're adults.
44:35
Speaker 1: We're adults. But when you're walking back into your mom's
44:38
Speaker 1: house and you're wearing the clothes from last night. I'm
44:43
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like, I was at theosa's house. So
44:46
Speaker 1: we're working on the podcast all night, honestly, Fellestlee Podcasting.
44:52
Speaker 1: Um My, we we asked our listeners to submit, you know,
44:56
Speaker 1: um suggestions or what they carry in their home kid,
44:59
Speaker 1: because hop kids are like snowflakes, like every hoek it's
45:01
Speaker 1: a little different, you know. Yes, And so my favorite,
45:05
Speaker 1: my absolute favorite, one listener was like, I always take
45:08
Speaker 1: a piece of paper and a pencil and I'm like,
45:11
Speaker 1: for what for notes? I mean, you never know, you
45:16
Speaker 1: never know, poetry tree, you have to write a poem
45:19
Speaker 1: after bullet journal fired? Who knows, really knows? So yeah,
45:24
Speaker 1: how kids are fun? Are funny? You have ho kids? Okay? What?
45:31
Speaker 1: Oh I don't know. I was asking about ho ho kids.
45:34
Speaker 1: Did anybody have a hoe kid item that they would
45:37
Speaker 1: like to share that we have not mentioned thus far?
45:40
Speaker 1: Some lubricant, lubricant, dental damns. UM dental dams are important.
45:46
Speaker 1: They're important. If you don't know what they are, look
45:48
Speaker 1: them up. They're important. Um hair ties, yes, hair ties,
45:54
Speaker 1: contact solutions that hair back for me, for you know,
45:57
Speaker 1: my eyes get dry, your guys get dry. If you're
46:00
Speaker 1: wearing heels, you know, maybe you want to take your
46:03
Speaker 1: chunk glass. You could be comfortable after. Yes, there's a
46:07
Speaker 1: lot of things, a lot to make your experience more comfortable, right, yeah, question,
46:14
Speaker 1: I was going to transition us right now. Okay, So
46:16
Speaker 1: we're coming to somewhat of a close. So one thing
46:20
Speaker 1: that we do on our podcast is we have a
46:21
Speaker 1: segment called oy Lokas and Oya Lokas is where we
46:25
Speaker 1: answer listener questions. So we wanted to open up the
46:28
Speaker 1: floor to y'all. So y'all can ask us some questions
46:31
Speaker 1: for oyelcas. I think there's gonna be a mic going around,
46:35
Speaker 1: perhaps not your head, Matt, Yes, okay, got it. And
46:40
Speaker 1: we're pretty open, you know, if you're curious about something
46:43
Speaker 1: we've talked about today an element of the podcast, there's
46:47
Speaker 1: so much more that we haven't shared. If we don't
46:49
Speaker 1: want to answer your question, we will gently let you know,
46:51
Speaker 1: but go ahead and feel free to ask. We're pretty
46:54
Speaker 1: open as you can tell. Hi, guys, I just want
47:01
Speaker 1: to say, you guys are badass. You guys are I
47:04
Speaker 1: want to be you when I grow up like you
47:05
Speaker 1: guys are a badass. UM. But yeah, So my name
47:08
Speaker 1: is no Um, born and raised in Milwaukee. And one
47:11
Speaker 1: of the questions I have so right now, I'm a
47:13
Speaker 1: public relation so I'm really into corporate American stuff like that.
47:18
Speaker 1: But me and one of my amazing, beautiful talented friends,
47:23
Speaker 1: UM want to start a podcast. And I guess, like
47:26
Speaker 1: one of my main worries is UM that maybe you
47:29
Speaker 1: guys can relate to or have advice for me. UM.
47:33
Speaker 1: Has there ever been, UM, like, are you ever like
47:38
Speaker 1: worried or or has there ever been conflict between the
47:41
Speaker 1: content you are podcasting about and your credibility in your
47:47
Speaker 1: professional workforce or getting ahead in your professional work because
47:51
Speaker 1: of the content? Has ever been like any type of
47:54
Speaker 1: conflict with that with getting a job with people? Because
47:57
Speaker 1: you guys are pretty well known. So is there any
47:59
Speaker 1: conflict that well? We kept we keep it really separate. UM.
48:05
Speaker 1: There have been times where I have put it on
48:07
Speaker 1: my resume, UM, and people will ask questions. But you know,
48:11
Speaker 1: your job doesn't want to you to be so distracted
48:16
Speaker 1: or invested in something that's not the job, so I
48:20
Speaker 1: have had to keep it really separate. UM. Like my boss,
48:24
Speaker 1: My boss does not know that I'm here today. I
48:26
Speaker 1: didn't want that to be on the recording. So I'm like, so,
48:30
Speaker 1: you know, I've had to keep it really separate. I
48:31
Speaker 1: will edit that out later. UM. Yeah, so I've I
48:36
Speaker 1: have had to keep it really separate. UM. So for
48:38
Speaker 1: that reason, I haven't experienced anything like what you're talking about. UM,
48:43
Speaker 1: but I will say that if you're not allowed to
48:46
Speaker 1: be your full authentic self or your place of employment,
48:49
Speaker 1: is that really the job for you? That's something that
48:52
Speaker 1: I would think about. Yeah, thank you for that question.
48:56
Speaker 1: It's a very complicated one because we need our jobs.
48:59
Speaker 1: We need our jobs. We just do you know. UM,
49:02
Speaker 1: our parents don't support us. We support ourselves, who pay
49:06
Speaker 1: our own bills. UM. Oftentimes are the money that we
49:09
Speaker 1: make is going back into our families and back into
49:11
Speaker 1: our communities, and we're supporting others. And that's just how
49:14
Speaker 1: it is, right, UM, So we need our jobs. It's important.
49:19
Speaker 1: It's also interesting because so much of the podcast work
49:22
Speaker 1: is on the Internet, right It's on the internet space,
49:25
Speaker 1: it's on Instagram, and it is incredible how racially segregated
49:29
Speaker 1: even the Internet is. There is a white Internet, there
49:34
Speaker 1: is a Latin X Internet. There's a black Internet. There
49:36
Speaker 1: is an Asian Internet, right and then and then depending
49:40
Speaker 1: on your age, if you're older, you're probably gonna be
49:43
Speaker 1: on Facebook. If you're younger, you're gonna be on Instagram.
49:46
Speaker 1: And I don't know, they're on like TikTok and house
49:48
Speaker 1: party and I don't even know what else. Now you're
49:51
Speaker 1: a teacher. Now, I'm a teacher. Now it's horrifying. I'm
49:54
Speaker 1: a teacher now, so like I know, um, but no, truly,
49:58
Speaker 1: I work at a very very predominantly white school and institution. Um,
50:04
Speaker 1: and when I got the job, I was like, oh,
50:07
Speaker 1: this is like reverse stand and deliver right now, Like
50:11
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go teach these white kids how to like
50:14
Speaker 1: be better people and stuff and like, you know, how
50:16
Speaker 1: to protect themselves from chlamydia. It's gonna be great. But
50:20
Speaker 1: what I realized is on that campus, and like you're saying,
50:23
Speaker 1: we're very public with what we do, you know, like
50:25
Speaker 1: almost like almost eighteen thousand followers on the Instagram alone,
50:30
Speaker 1: like eleven thousand on my personal, almost ten thousand on yours.
50:34
Speaker 1: We have the Facebook two Forbes features, three l a
50:38
Speaker 1: Maag features like we're out there. However, at my predominantly
50:43
Speaker 1: white place of employment. The only people on campus who
50:48
Speaker 1: have seen my stuff online are the Latina that works
50:53
Speaker 1: in dining services, the Latina that works in campus safety,
50:57
Speaker 1: the Latina that works as an assistant. Literally, because the
51:02
Speaker 1: Internet is racially segregated and we use stage names and
51:07
Speaker 1: the name of the podcast is in Spanish, is in Spanglish,
51:11
Speaker 1: you know, So we've kind of built these firewalls so
51:14
Speaker 1: that like they're really not going to find me, they
51:16
Speaker 1: wouldn't know where to look. I mean, I work with
51:19
Speaker 1: all Latinas and I have had the woman in accounting
51:23
Speaker 1: asked me, do you have a podcast? Multiple people have
51:25
Speaker 1: asked me if I have a podcast? Can I say no? No,
51:30
Speaker 1: I do not. Yeah, no, thank you for that question.
51:38
Speaker 1: Thank you for that question. Yeah, any other question? Hello? Hi,
51:43
Speaker 1: my name is Cecelnia. Um. I'm a new listener and
51:47
Speaker 1: I like Fell in Love with you Guys podcast. But
51:50
Speaker 1: my question is what is your definition of self care
51:53
Speaker 1: and how do you stay consistent with loving yourself? Oh
51:57
Speaker 1: that's a good one. Do you want to start? Sure? Um? Okay,
52:04
Speaker 1: I would say I I like to think of self
52:06
Speaker 1: care as something that future you will think yesterday you
52:11
Speaker 1: four so something and self care can also be really boring.
52:16
Speaker 1: So you have to do like the things, like the
52:18
Speaker 1: little things that you do not want to do, but
52:20
Speaker 1: that will make you happy in the long run. Right.
52:22
Speaker 1: And for me, something that I struggle with is um
52:26
Speaker 1: putting my laundry away. And it sounds really silly, like, well,
52:29
Speaker 1: why don't you just put your laundry away? Right? But
52:32
Speaker 1: I just can't do it. I cannot bring myself to
52:34
Speaker 1: do it, and then I'm dreading it and dreading it,
52:36
Speaker 1: and then I feel bad about it, and then I
52:38
Speaker 1: feel messy, and then I feel all these different kinds
52:41
Speaker 1: of things, and then my room is giving me anxiety.
52:43
Speaker 1: So why didn't I just put my laundry away? You
52:45
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And it sounds silly, but it's
52:47
Speaker 1: actually like it has become a really big thing for me. Um.
52:51
Speaker 1: So I think that self care can be the really
52:54
Speaker 1: boring things that are going to make you feel good
52:56
Speaker 1: in the long run. And I also think it's important
52:59
Speaker 1: to practice said daily, whether that be it can be
53:02
Speaker 1: something small so that you're not burnt out, because when
53:05
Speaker 1: you do self care when you're already depleted, you're starting
53:09
Speaker 1: from zero, right as opposed to maybe being at eight.
53:12
Speaker 1: So then you get back up to nine Z. Hopefully
53:14
Speaker 1: you're at a hundred. You know what I mean. That's
53:16
Speaker 1: how I feel. Um, So self care is really difficult
53:21
Speaker 1: for me. I have a really hard time with it,
53:23
Speaker 1: um And and it's part of it is the consistent
53:26
Speaker 1: The second part of your question is the consistency question,
53:29
Speaker 1: and that's where it becomes tricky. So, um, I posted
53:32
Speaker 1: this to my story yesterday, But bitch, go get your
53:36
Speaker 1: car serviced. Take it in. You know it's time. You
53:42
Speaker 1: know it's your do for an oil change. The light
53:45
Speaker 1: on your dash has been on for a week. Take
53:47
Speaker 1: your car in. You know what I mean. Putting air
53:50
Speaker 1: in your tire. Put your air, Put air in your tires,
53:53
Speaker 1: get your tires rotated, get your alignment checked. Put gas
53:56
Speaker 1: in your car. Do not drive on empty, do not
53:59
Speaker 1: drive on m D. And we're saying this because we
54:02
Speaker 1: do all of these all. We do it all. You know.
54:04
Speaker 1: Another thing Moll and I say to each other all
54:06
Speaker 1: the time, it's like, Okay, don't over caffine as we're
54:08
Speaker 1: drinking like our second and third cup of coffee. You know, yeah, no, truly,
54:13
Speaker 1: it's it's rough, um, because I don't know, like there's
54:17
Speaker 1: so many things in life that you have to do.
54:20
Speaker 1: You have to do your texts, and you have to
54:21
Speaker 1: take care of your car, and you have to pay
54:23
Speaker 1: your rent, and you have to do this, and you
54:24
Speaker 1: have to do that, and it can get overwhelming, especially
54:26
Speaker 1: if you deal with any kind of anxiety or like
54:29
Speaker 1: undiagnosed a d H d UM. And so I would say,
54:33
Speaker 1: like again, do the boring things that you don't want
54:37
Speaker 1: to do, don't avoid them, make the time, just do it.
54:40
Speaker 1: You know you will feel better. Um. Not everybody has
54:44
Speaker 1: like an amazing mom, but if you have an amazing mom,
54:47
Speaker 1: I have an amazing mom. Listen to your mother. She
54:50
Speaker 1: knows what she's talking about. She knows what she's talking about.
54:54
Speaker 1: And sometimes you have to learn the hard way, right
54:56
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, funk, I should have listened to
54:58
Speaker 1: my mom always allways. She told me about this when
55:02
Speaker 1: I was five years old. I already knew this, and
55:06
Speaker 1: I refused to listen right right right. You know what,
55:09
Speaker 1: whenever I mess up and I have to tell my mom,
55:10
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, I already know I know what you
55:12
Speaker 1: have to say. I know what you told me, but
55:15
Speaker 1: I did it anyway. It's true. Listen to your mom
55:18
Speaker 1: and she loves you. And it might sound corny, but
55:22
Speaker 1: it is helpful sometimes to follow like those inspirational pages
55:26
Speaker 1: you know that are sharing affirmations and tips and you know,
55:31
Speaker 1: inspiring words and images. It can help. All of that
55:35
Speaker 1: is a type of stimulus that can encourage you right
55:38
Speaker 1: to take steps in that direction. Go outside, go for
55:42
Speaker 1: a walk, get some fresh air. It sounds counterintuitive because
55:47
Speaker 1: of everything that we do, but put your phone down,
55:50
Speaker 1: get off social media, do not keep scrolling, do not
55:53
Speaker 1: keep scrolling. Scroll with intention. Scroll with intention has started
55:58
Speaker 1: to set because I'm really bad about social media, about
56:00
Speaker 1: not putting my phone away. So I've started setting a timer.
56:04
Speaker 1: So Instagram now has a new feature where you can
56:06
Speaker 1: set a timer. So I have a timer now and
56:08
Speaker 1: I'm so now I'm very cognizant of like, okay, well
56:10
Speaker 1: if I have to do something for look, I thought
56:11
Speaker 1: I have to do it now right, and I can't
56:13
Speaker 1: keep scrolling. So that has been helpful for me thus far. Yeah,
56:18
Speaker 1: thank you, great question over here. Yeah, my name, my
56:28
Speaker 1: name is Brandon, and I just wanted to know how
56:31
Speaker 1: do you know when you're in a toxic friendship and
56:33
Speaker 1: how do you actually end it, especially if you were
56:36
Speaker 1: like really good friends. That's hard to asked that recently. Yeah,
56:42
Speaker 1: who Um, Well, I would say one sign of a
56:45
Speaker 1: toxic friendship is if it's one sided. You know, if
56:49
Speaker 1: you find yourself reaching out all the time, and whether
56:52
Speaker 1: this person you know agrees to hang out with you
56:55
Speaker 1: or not, you're still doing all of the reaching out
56:57
Speaker 1: and you're doing all of the labor of like maybe
57:00
Speaker 1: then venting, and then they don't really listen to you
57:02
Speaker 1: and what you're going through, or they're not sharing space
57:05
Speaker 1: with you. It's very one sided. Yeah. I would also
57:09
Speaker 1: say to like more than we recognize friendships, friendships are relationships, right, Um,
57:15
Speaker 1: they're often platonic relationships, and some of the exact same
57:21
Speaker 1: dynamics that you see in a romantic relationship you see
57:26
Speaker 1: them play out in platonic friendships, right. And so sometimes
57:30
Speaker 1: a friendship can be toxic because there is jealousy of
57:34
Speaker 1: you hanging out with other people, or there is an
57:37
Speaker 1: element of control, or there is an element of um
57:41
Speaker 1: sabotaging you before something big in your life is happening,
57:45
Speaker 1: or downplaying your accomplishments. So I would say that ending
57:49
Speaker 1: a toxic friendship is gonna be pretty similar to ending
57:53
Speaker 1: a romantic relationship. It's a type of breakup. Um, it's
57:57
Speaker 1: really important to name aim and identify what the issue
58:02
Speaker 1: is and market. Uh. We use the word call out
58:05
Speaker 1: a lot, and that's not so much what I'm talking about.
58:07
Speaker 1: I'm talking about like a very plain observation. You know,
58:12
Speaker 1: when you do this, it makes me feel like this,
58:16
Speaker 1: when you've talked to me like this, it makes me
58:18
Speaker 1: feel like this setting a boundary. I need more time
58:23
Speaker 1: to myself, I need to like hang out with other people.
58:26
Speaker 1: It sounds like a relationship breakup because it is, you know,
58:30
Speaker 1: and the way that someone responds to those healthy boundaries
58:34
Speaker 1: and to those observations is going to tell you a
58:36
Speaker 1: lot about whether or not that friendship is healthy for you.
58:41
Speaker 1: Other questions over here, Hello, Hello, And my question is
58:53
Speaker 1: so you two had talked about how the podcast came
58:55
Speaker 1: to be. My question is what moment in your life
58:59
Speaker 1: did you realize you had to be the change in
59:01
Speaker 1: the world that you want to see. It's like a
59:04
Speaker 1: series of moments. It's like many moments and many reminders.
59:09
Speaker 1: Is there anything in particular that comes to mind for you.
59:13
Speaker 1: I'm processing that question. Um, well, I think you know,
59:19
Speaker 1: when we entered the podcast space, we entered it when
59:22
Speaker 1: there were not very many fem centered podcast There weren't
59:27
Speaker 1: very many in the Latino space, the Latino X space.
59:30
Speaker 1: There weren't very many survivors centered, if any at all.
59:34
Speaker 1: There weren't any survivors centered podcast. Um, we didn't see
59:38
Speaker 1: very many podcasts where it was like two home girls talking,
59:43
Speaker 1: you know. Um, we've seen a lot of news cycle
59:46
Speaker 1: podcast you know, so I think when we entered the space,
59:49
Speaker 1: it was a time where none of that was there.
59:52
Speaker 1: You know, now we're we're in when here are we in?
59:56
Speaker 1: We're in twenty nine and there's definitely a lot more
59:59
Speaker 1: podcast but at the time, what we weren't seeing is
1:00:02
Speaker 1: what we wanted to create. So I think that that
1:00:04
Speaker 1: was one of those moments where we saw what was
1:00:07
Speaker 1: lacking and what we felt was needed. And when we
1:00:10
Speaker 1: launched our first episode, seeing the community response is how
1:00:13
Speaker 1: we knew we we were onto something. There was a
1:00:16
Speaker 1: space there for us, and there was this and it
1:00:18
Speaker 1: was needed because folks were responding. Yeah. I also think, like, um,
1:00:23
Speaker 1: I feel like sometimes we get overwhelmed with the bigness
1:00:27
Speaker 1: of problems, right, Like we understand that a lot of
1:00:31
Speaker 1: the personal issues that we deal with are the familiar
1:00:34
Speaker 1: issues we deal with can be traced back to a
1:00:36
Speaker 1: much larger institutional problem. Institutional racism, institutional sexism, white supremacy, capitalism.
1:00:46
Speaker 1: These are huge global problems, right, and so sometimes in
1:00:51
Speaker 1: understanding the bigness of an issue, we get overwhelmed and
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Speaker 1: where do we start? Where do we start to tackle
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Speaker 1: something so huge and really um I think for me
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Speaker 1: it was kind of recognizing that it really is about
1:01:08
Speaker 1: your immediate circle and your immediate community and starting there,
1:01:13
Speaker 1: that's where you have the most access, That's where you
1:01:15
Speaker 1: have the most knowledge and insight and background, That's where
1:01:19
Speaker 1: you have the most influence and opportunity for impact. So
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Speaker 1: I think that that was helpful, Like we can start
1:01:26
Speaker 1: starting small, is actually starting really big? You know? Um
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Speaker 1: So that would be for me, Like there were a
1:01:32
Speaker 1: series of life events probably that led me to that realization.
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Speaker 1: Any other questions, Okay, you have time for one more? Okay, Okay, Hi,
1:01:52
Speaker 1: my name's Edica actually mentioned me and your story the
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Speaker 1: other day. Um So, I know that you guys have
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Speaker 1: that partnership with the l A Libraries and you do
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Speaker 1: workshops around um l A. Have you guys thought about
1:02:07
Speaker 1: maybe monetizing that and making them available online. Um. So
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Speaker 1: the workshops that were there, we're doing our paid workshops,
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Speaker 1: but they're free for the community. We have talked about
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Speaker 1: monetizing it so that it's available to folks online because
1:02:24
Speaker 1: we do have listeners like y'all that are out of state. Um,
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Speaker 1: that just takes a little bit more time than I
1:02:30
Speaker 1: don't think we're there quite yet. Yeah, we're so the
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Speaker 1: question of monetizing the podcast is a really big one,
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Speaker 1: and I think this is like a broader conversation for
1:02:39
Speaker 1: anybody who is interested in starting a small business, starting
1:02:43
Speaker 1: your own project, whatever that might be. Um. In the
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Speaker 1: Femtech workshop, we touched upon this that in our communities,
1:02:50
Speaker 1: we do not often talk about money. It's like still
1:02:53
Speaker 1: kind of a dirty word or it's embarrassing or shameful
1:02:56
Speaker 1: to talk about, especially when you don't have a whole
1:02:58
Speaker 1: lot of it. We don't tend to come from communities
1:03:02
Speaker 1: where we have angel investors and seed money and trust
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Speaker 1: funds and and and humongous loans, right, Um, so we
1:03:13
Speaker 1: kind of have to grind and find it in other places.
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Speaker 1: So for us, we're in that process right now. How
1:03:20
Speaker 1: can we take this project that clearly like people are
1:03:23
Speaker 1: into it. The response as well, how can we now
1:03:27
Speaker 1: be self sustaining and really get paid to do what
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Speaker 1: we do so we can do it full time? And
1:03:32
Speaker 1: that's a question that I would like everybody to to
1:03:35
Speaker 1: ask themselves with regards to your own projects. We're reading
1:03:39
Speaker 1: Nielsen reports, we're doing research about product development, we're you know, screening,
1:03:46
Speaker 1: doing phone calls with trademark attorneys and entertainment attorneys, and
1:03:50
Speaker 1: we're thinking about a manager and these sorts of things
1:03:54
Speaker 1: that maybe are not common language for us in our
1:03:57
Speaker 1: everyday lives, that may seem out of reach or may
1:04:01
Speaker 1: seem like, well, that's like a something for somebody else. No,
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Speaker 1: we have to ask. We have to ask, right, We
1:04:08
Speaker 1: have to make big asks and so um things like that.
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Speaker 1: Even we've been kind of hesitant to put too much
1:04:16
Speaker 1: of a dollar sign on our content because we want
1:04:19
Speaker 1: this to be accessible. We were talking the other day
1:04:22
Speaker 1: that when we graduated from college there we were amongst
1:04:26
Speaker 1: the era or the time when everything was sliding scale.
1:04:30
Speaker 1: So everything was like, okay, if you want to come
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Speaker 1: to this you know, community event, you know, five to
1:04:35
Speaker 1: ten dollars if you can't pay, let us know and
1:04:38
Speaker 1: you know we'll get you in. And now we're seeing
1:04:41
Speaker 1: um a type of development right where now we're saying, no,
1:04:45
Speaker 1: you're gonna pay for our art and for what we
1:04:47
Speaker 1: do because we're full time artists and we deserve to
1:04:52
Speaker 1: get paid because we're also reinvesting it into our own community. Right.
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Speaker 1: So we're seeing the conversation change and we're seeing it switched.
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Speaker 1: So as those convers stations switch, we have to also
1:05:01
Speaker 1: keep up with it and see how we're we are
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Speaker 1: going to sustain ourselves with our projects. Yeah, so thank
1:05:07
Speaker 1: you for that question. We're working on it. I think
1:05:12
Speaker 1: I think that's it all right, Okay, yeah, okay, Well,
1:05:15
Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming. UM. This was amazing.
1:05:19
Speaker 1: This was actually our first live podcast at a university,
1:05:22
Speaker 1: so we're really happy that we got to do it
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Speaker 1: with you all today. Yes, thank you for having us. UM.
1:05:27
Speaker 1: We're gonna stick around for a little while. Yeah, thank you. Thanks.
1:05:38
Speaker 1: We just want to thank Man and Andy for working
1:05:40
Speaker 1: with us so closely and getting this done, and of
1:05:42
Speaker 1: course many for coming and visiting all of us. And
1:05:47
Speaker 1: we also wanted to thank sorry, and we also wanted
1:05:50
Speaker 1: to thank all of you were actually showing up and
1:05:53
Speaker 1: coming and seeing these wonderful move do their things. So um,
1:05:58
Speaker 1: thank you and also we hope to see you guys
1:06:01
Speaker 1: swoon in future projects. Thank you, thank you, M. Thank Yeah.
1:06:16
Speaker 1: Well we're gonna hang out up here. We'll be up
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Speaker 1: here for a little while. M.