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Steinbrenner Blames Dodgers · The 3-0 Take

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take where we talk
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all things Major League Baseball.
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Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate Reyes.
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It all starts right now. Welcome back to the Three O Take
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presented by Sea Geek. This is episode 507.
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I'll be your host, Kyle Corden. I'm here with my Co host Nate
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Reyes Night. Let's loosen up.
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Let's loosen up. Let's talk some ball.
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It's Monday .2 is what I like to call Wednesday Monday .22 Point
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O. What do you think you.
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Don't think so. I thought today was Thursday, so
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thanks for that. Well.
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Do you go now? You got to go in the office on
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Thursdays, right? Now I'm home Thursdays, which is
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real nice. You're home Thursdays, so you
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thought you were you Just remember that episode where
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Dwight thinks it's Friday and they fool him all day and he
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doesn't show up until like noon? I'm here, I'm here.
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Oh Yep. How about?
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Today was Thursday so I would have gone into the office today.
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My boss have been awfully confused.
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Casual Friday, Is that a thing? It's casual everyday dude.
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I'm Gene's in a sweatshirt everyday.
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It's. Glorious.
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Speaking of casual, yeah, real casual.
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Can we talk about this Junior Caminero home run trot?
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One of the most casual things I've ever seen in my life.
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Buckle up, I don't know what's longer our our quote theme song
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or this home run trot. This home run trot, I believe,
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I, I think I got the, I think we got the clock on it.
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I think it comes in at 56 seconds.
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I love it. I love it.
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I don't love it, but it's not MLB so like whatever who cares.
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Why not? So if you you don't know, this
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is game seven of the Dominican Republic Professional Baseball
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League Winter Ball, their championship series.
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Yes, Winter ball. Junior Caminaro Caminero
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Caminaro. Caminaro Raise, raise.
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Carbonara Carrabba's Junior Olive Garden.
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They still got those. Junior Olive Garden.
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No, he he blasted a ball in the ninth.
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It wasn't even a walk off mind. You tight?
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Yeah, tight up, right. No, no, they they went ahead.
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I think they went ahead, but it wasn't a walk off, which was
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kind of funny. But all like you said, it's not
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Major League Baseball, so it it's not as surprising.
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No rules when you when you put that into consideration.
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But let's let's just take a look here.
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Let's take a look see what happened.
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Aero Ascencio, a leader in Wego Salvado at all of Tiempos guru
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for a centrefit. No, no, no, no.
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I can't believe it. That breaks the scoreboard.
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I. Mean look at this.
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Junior Caminero. And that's not even the craziest
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part of this video. That's the insane.
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I'm like, what are we? What are we doing?
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This is. Oh he freaking heated his helmet
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for like 5 steps before home too.
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He pulled the wing. I mean, I'm not going to I'm not
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going to give Jesse Winker credit for it.
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But you know, the move that Jesse Winker pulled where full
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stop before he gets to first base, rips the uniform.
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I don't know, Chucks, the helmet did that and then another full
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stop at at third base. Just insanity.
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But yeah, you're you're right. I mean, chaos just and, and we
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saw it at the World Baseball Classic.
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We got, we got a little taste of that.
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I mean, a, a substantial taste actually.
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Like we were we were in the thick of it there like that.
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It's a whole another ball game. It's a whole another ball game.
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It's so different. Like there's, it's just so
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different. And for anybody, 'cause like if
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there, if there's anybody for who would be difficult to shift
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to this side of the spectrum, it'd be you and me.
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You and me have we were last on the last on the train for let
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the kids play. We're we're I'm not going to say
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anti bat flip, but like we think there's.
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Swag, by the way. There's swag in no celebration
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in my mind. So for us to be able to do that,
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but we're talking MLB compared to international baseball,
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International baseball is something so different, dude.
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Like being at the WBC, there's there's fans that don't sit
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down, that don't stop making noise.
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The chants are. The chants are.
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Constant and that's like that's that's what winter ball looks
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like to me. That's what that looked like to
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me. Like it.
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It's just like, let's go, let's go.
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We go Pudge in the chat. How about?
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That. Shout out Pudge.
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Welcome, Pudge. Welcome, Pudge.
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Yeah, I just wanted to cover that before we got into in the
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in the things because I did not I did not want to go this
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episode without without showing that clip because I mean.
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Unbelievable. And anytime I'll I'll last thing
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before we move on. I anytime I see a clip like
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this, it reminds me of what I said, which I stand by.
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I, I'm waiting for the day that it happens.
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You've probably heard me say this a dozen times at this point
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in our lifetime. We will see somebody.
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You, you know, you see the full stop before you get to first
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base and you like ripping the jersey out.
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We will see. Mark my words, I'm you think I'm
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joking. I'm dead serious.
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We will see pants drop following a a a significant late inning,
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possibly walk off home run before the the guy gets to first
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base. Mark my words, pants will drop
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and take that. Take that out of context.
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Clip it if you want. Pants will drop in our lifetime.
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What do you mean how does it work?
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RIP the jersey. They don't rock the baggy pants
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no more, so they're not going to slide over the cleats very well.
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They got those tweeners now. Those tweeners are snug.
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Intentional. I'm not saying they're going to
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fall by accident. This is very much going to be
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like, I'm letting it all hang. I'm I'm putting it on the table.
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I'm that guy that you watch. We're going to.
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We're going to see it. I'll see it.
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Yeah, believe me, I'm not saying I want to see it.
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You're saying it will happen in a lifetime.
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Speaking of seeing things in our lifetime, I never thought I
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never thought I'd see the Yankees turn into, I mean, well
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known as one of the richest and most valuable sports franchises
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in the. World but also fourth most
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valuable 4th yes 4th to to according to Forbes if we're
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going to. Valued at $7.55 billion.
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Well known one of the most valuable franchises, but
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learning very quickly. Also one of the softest,
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apparently. How Steinbrenner, what are we
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doing, guy? What are we doing?
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This is this is embarrassing. I don't.
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Like can you like lose a last name?
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Can you be like removed? Legally I think it should be
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allowed in this scenario because this is I mean.
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It's awful. George has got to be rolling
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over in his grave. Man, this.
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Is kind of easy man. Just do your job, man.
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Yeah. Don't be.
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Don't be. Make it like fans.
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Fans are are in a different world here.
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Fans have the right to complain about what the Dodgers are doing
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if they so choose. I don't necessarily fall into
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that camp. I think what they're doing is
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wild. I I think it's unprecedented.
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Sure. But everything they're doing is
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legal. We've we've, we've covered that
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point multiple times. Everything they're doing is
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legal. So complain about it as much as
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you want, but they're not breaking any rules.
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But as the owner of the Yankees, to come out and and and make the
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Dodgers your boogeyman and really on behalf, which I
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thought was the richest part of all of this, no pun intended,
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almost coming out on behalf of the rest of baseball being
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ultimately what he said, the quote, the quote was, well,
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look, it's difficult for most of us owners to be able to do the
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kind of things that they're doing now.
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We'll see if it pays off. They still have they still have
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to have a season relatively injury free for to work out for
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them. And it's a long season, as you
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know. And once you get to the
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postseason, anything can happen. We've seen that time and time
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again. It's difficult for most of us
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owners to be able to do the kind of things that.
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They're doing, that's what. Like, he's not wrong.
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What's crazy is that, like, the whole statement is correct,
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except grouping him in the US category is the most ridiculous
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thing. The most ridiculous thing.
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This is the worst quote I've I've, I think I've ever heard
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out of his mouth. This is bad.
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This is bad. It's it's not.
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It sucks for the other organizations to just be like,
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like, why is this guy speaking for us?
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You know what I mean? Yeah, it's true.
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It's true, man. He just, he just has like,
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there's something out of YY land that just makes you scratch your
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head every offseason now. And I mean, his dad was in
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headlines all the time, but it was never for being like a poor
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me situation, you know what I mean?
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Like there were he was famous for, you know, kind of outing
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contract negotiations with players and, you know,
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declining, you know, trade requests and things like that
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and making it, you know, like villain villainizing.
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The the player is villainizing a word.
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Let's roll with it, You know, just making the the the player
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the bad guy in scenarios. And like that, that's just what
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he did. And he he was constantly in the
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headlines. And when it was followed up with
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winning in the late 90s, like it all was forgiven.
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But let's not forget that like, fanbase hated him in the 80s and
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early 90s, you know, like he was a mess.
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So it's it's difficult to sit here and say like George was the
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standard, but at the same time, he never cried.
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Poor me. I got a little All he did was
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flex. Well, I've got a little exercise
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for us, so let's do a little compare and contrast between how
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and and Father George. Let's, let's let's revisit Hal's
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quote. Well, look, it's difficult for
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most of us owners to be able to do the kind of things that
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they're doing. Let's go over to dad George
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Steinbrenner. Winning is the most important
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thing in my life after breathing, breathing first,
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winning next. I think Hal's adopted.
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Father of the year for sure, yeah.
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I think Hal's adopted because those two schools of thought do
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not mesh whatsoever. And you can't in, in the
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Steinbrenner family line, You can't have one.
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You can't have the father saying, I will literally after
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breathing, I will do whatever it takes to win.
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And then that you, you can't have the sun being like, well,
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guys, look, I like winning as much as the next person.
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But you know, I, I draw a line in the sand when, when I feel
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like other teams, namely the Dodgers are, are sort of playing
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a little unfairly at which again, everything they're doing
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is legal. But you know, it these, these
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two, like I said, these two schools of thought just don't
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match or they just don't mesh. They don't line up.
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Yeah, look, man, like I think what they're doing is, is like
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you said, it's uncharted territory.
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And I think there will be a point where more players take
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the selfless route. Is it hard to keep up when the
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Dodgers have the best player in the world on a deferred contract
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like that, only making 2 million a year?
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That's that's going against your cap hit.
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Yeah, like it, it is hard to keep up because he's the best
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player in the world, you know what I'm saying?
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Like anywhere. He he and he offered that
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contract and offered that structure to multiple
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organizations. He made that known wherever he
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was going that that was the structure he had in mind.
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So I mean, like, is it rare that a team has the best player in
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the world who is basically free and they're still able to do so
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much more to build around him? Yeah, I mean, that's rare.
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It's not necessarily unfair. I think that aspect to it is
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hard to keep up with because you can't go get another Otani and
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and have him for a bag of chips. So I understand that ideology.
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Sure. But like at the same time, no
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Yankee fan cares about you spending another 60 or 70 mil.
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Like nobody cares that that hurts.
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It doesn't hurt you. You have so much money.
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The Yankees have so much money. And again, there's nothing
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stopping the New York Yankees from structuring contracts the
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way that the Los Angeles Dodgers do.
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How just needs to have a little bit more self-awareness.
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And look, I know I I recognize the hat I'm wearing.
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So you're probably taken taken what I'm saying with a grain of
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salt, but I I think most people would probably agree that Howe
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just needs to have some self-awareness and understanding
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that the Yankees are not the preferred destination anymore.
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That's the reality of it. They used to be because you
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could throw whatever amount of money you wanted at at at any
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given player and they were going to take it because what better
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honor in in in all of Major League Baseball than to Don the
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pinstripes? That's just not the way things
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work anymore. Los Angeles is clearly a far
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better destination in terms of your career, in terms of your
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marketability, in terms of your opportunity to win.
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That's that's that's fact. Yeah, well, I mean, you're also
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talking about like, think of the age everyone that everyone that
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you know grew up watching the Yankees dynasty years, probably
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hated them. And now they're at that age,
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we're like, I don't want to choose that place.
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So that's OK. I don't know.
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There's so many different factors to this.
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And it is what it is It I don't really care if players want to
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play there or not. Like I'd I'd be thrilled if the
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best players in baseball said, yeah, that's the that's my place
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no matter what. But like, that's just not how it
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goes. They have they have other
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factors in their decision and whatever.
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But like I definitely don't want the owner of the team coming out
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and saying poor me when it's literally look it up.
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Forbes list is fourth most valuable franchise in all of
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sports. And if we take money out of it,
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like, I don't know, the Yankee emblem is up there with like
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Nike. It's got, it's got to stand for
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something like. People in the world wearing it
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that have no idea, they don't even watch games, you know what
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I mean? Like, that's what that emblem
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represents. And, and that's, that's what is
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out there. And it's just, it's sad, dude.
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It really is sad. And so I, I think it's, it's
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time to, it's time to move on. You know, like we got to see,
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we're going to see things shaking up soon.
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Maybe House sells it at some point or, I don't know, some
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desperate, angry Yankee fan poisons his food or something.
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OK. On that note, Speaking of
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selling the the Padres are are looking to shop Dylan CS and
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Michael King. I think, I think we knew CS was
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a possibility. I think we've known that for a
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little while. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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I don't think that was news with the Michael King edition, but I,
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I feel like lately or as of yesterday, the day before,
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Michael King's name has been floated out as a possible trade
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option for the Padres looking to move on from from that contract
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as he enters. Well, both of them are going
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into their final season of of ARB control.
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So, you know, I would have thought that the pod maybe, I
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mean, certainly maybe they're just testing the waters, but I
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would have thought that maybe with the way that King had
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pitched, and I think the way a lot of people had at least close
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to that franchise, would have hoped that he would have pitched
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as a as coming back as part of that return for Soto.
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Why, why wouldn't you try to find a way to make that work?
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I mean, that's a that's a piece that you're and I understand
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your log jam with some some pretty ugly contracts right now.
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I get that, but I can't imagine that contract, should it come
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time to to pay the man I I can't imagine that being an albatross
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of a contract. Trying to figure out what the
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like, is there like another play here?
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Is there like another another thing they're trying to like
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manipulate the market in a way I'm looking at like I'm looking
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at who's left on the free agent list.
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And outside of like Flaherty, it's not really any other
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pictures that I would say this is worth it for Alonzo, which
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would be the strangest fit in the world in my mind, and Alex
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Bregman, which they don't need. So like I'm trying to figure out
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what is there anything else to this?
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Because I'm super tired of the Dylan sees back and forth thing.
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Like, are you in or out? Like, what's the point of making
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these moves and being out a year later?
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Like, I don't know. We've said this multiple times
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during the offseason. Like, you had so many different
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Dodgers saying that that was the hardest series they played and
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that was the team they were most worried about in the postseason.
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And you've got a lot of you've got a lot of people asking if
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the Dodgers broke the Padres. Like the Padres are so good.
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You're so good. They were.
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You have everything right there. They're losing pieces, man.
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You've lost Profar. You've lost Kim.
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Replaceable pieces in my mind. Sure, but if the.
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Core is still there. I I understand, but like that
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core is not getting any younger. And if you if, if you're talking
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about shedding these pieces, potentially you're only you're
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only declining. And who's to say that they even
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replaced the guys that they lost?
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There were yes, all at the end of the day, on paper replaceable
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players. But if, if, if you're shedding
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further names and you don't replace those guys, where does
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that leave you In a worse place than you were last year when,
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like you said, Dodgers were very clear as to the the challenges
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that that series in the post season provided them.
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You were close. You like you were knocking on
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the door being a legitimate threat to what has become the
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beast of of Major League Baseball.
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And then you're just you're on doing it all.
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You're walking it all back. You say what?
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Let's step back. Let's retreat back to HQ, figure
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this out and then we'll go at it again.
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Why you didn't need to do that? You're nothing.
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They have nothing to work with. Their farm is shot and it's
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strange to me that like, so you look at like a Dave Dombrowski
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and you you get it. Like he's going to clean out
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your farm. He's going to Max out your
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credit cards, but he's going to double down on it.
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You know what I'm saying? Like that's, that's what he
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does. That's the route we're going.
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That's that's the type of roster we're going to build.
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And we're going to do it until we until we, you know, find a
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ring. Now it's been a weird situation
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in Philly, but like AJ Preller, I don't know.
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I can't, I don't know what's going on.
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I don't understand. You trade for superstars, you
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get rid of the superstar next year, you give up all your
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prospects to get superstar. Then you reverse it.
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You're getting really close to being the top dog in the NL
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multiple times and then you like to it's like every, every step
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they take forward, it's 2 steps back and it's their own doing
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and I can't figure out why they're doing it.
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I don't figure out why they're like, I have nothing against
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Xander Bogart's, but like, that was a dumb contract, you know
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what I mean? Like 2.
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Things on that, two things on that.
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It was a dumb contract. No, three things.
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It was a dumb contract. You'd be dumb not to take that
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if you're Xander Bogart's. And three, I said it when it,
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when the deal happened or I I said it when he started to
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decline. I said that his level of output
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would not have plummeted to the level that it did had he stayed
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in Boston. I believe he I actually do.
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Yeah, man. But to your point about the farm
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system, you weren't wrong, dude. They're the the list that I'm
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looking at has them 28th this yeah they've they've just been
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gutted and it does this this article goes into talking about
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the potential impact of being able to offload CS to to
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replenish that a little bit so it makes sense why they're doing
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it but. I mean, it is, I, I think it is
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tough because they had obviously their owner passed away.
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So like their ownership change in the middle of this era that
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you're in, then maybe the philosophy changes and trailers,
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you know, forced, you know, to make do and figure things out.
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And here's his limitations that you have to follow moving
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forward. Like maybe that's the scenario,
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but at the same time, I feel like, you know, you're, you're
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already this far in, might as well keep going.
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You know what I mean? Might as well go for it and like
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the very least you can potentially have a ring to show
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for it. That's what I'm.
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Saying I feel like that's the Phillies, that's why I use that
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comp 'cause it's like that's the Dombrowski mentality is like,
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we're going all in, I'm going to burn everything.
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Exactly, I'm going to leave every last bit you can before
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the wheels fall off and then and then hit the reset button and go
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at it again. And and you know what, like
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whether you agree with that or not, and there's probably Philly
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fans in the chat that are like, actually, I hate this right now,
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but at least you could say they went for it.
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At least you could say they tried everything they could,
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which majority of organizations aren't doing.
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So it's like if you're the Padres, you've committed this
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much money to your core. You've gone this far in with
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Xander and Manny and Tatis and Cronenworth, all long term deals
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like fill in the gaps and go for it.
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Now's not the time to like get rid of.
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It's not even freaking frontline talent.
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We're talking, we're talking ace Cy Young talent.
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And Michael King was the return for Soto.
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So it's like I don't understand. I feel like he's like, I mean,
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call me crazy or it's not, it's not crazy to say, but I
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understand there's a, a business side to these discussions.
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But I feel like Michael King's a great fit in San Diego.
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I don't know why, he just seems like, I don't know.
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It just seems like one of those. Guys, he'll be a household.
26:55
I, I understand you've been a lot of people knew about him
26:59
after the Soto trade because that was like the premier name.
27:03
He, he will be a household name within a year or two.
27:05
I can promise you. He's he's insanely good.
27:08
I will credit you for that. Yeah.
27:09
I mean you. This isn't new.
27:11
This isn't a new take. You've been you've been saying
27:13
this for. A while when he was still a set
27:14
up man. Like he's got it.
27:16
So that's common. But yeah man, I'm just, I'm
27:19
confused with all of it. Well, Speaking of the Padres for
27:23
now, former Padre, how Song Kim signed with the Rays today, Two
27:28
year, $29 million deal that includes an opt out after the
27:32
first season. You know, I was talking about
27:38
it. I was talking about this with
27:40
somebody at work yesterday. They were talking about the
27:43
American League East and talking about what the bottom of that
27:47
division is going to look like. And this person I was talking
27:50
with was like, you know, I just, I don't see how the Rays don't
27:57
finish last. And I said what I've been saying
27:59
for the last handful of years, the Rays, whether or not they do
28:03
it, it just seems like they find a way to manage 90 wins every
28:09
year, year in and year out. I mean, you'd have to go back
28:11
and look at what the actual win totals were to confirm whether
28:14
or not that's true, relatively speaking.
28:16
But it just feels like that because it's constantly a system
28:21
of next man up. Like who is this guy?
28:23
Oh my goodness, this is one of the best players in base or
28:25
could be one of the best players in baseball in the next within
28:29
the next 10 years, Stuff like that.
28:30
It's like, where do where do they where do they manufacture
28:33
these guys? And this is just one of those.
28:37
I don't, I'm not even I'm I'm not going to put any slander on
28:40
house on Kim's name. I love house on Kim.
28:44
I've been a Hassan Kim believer going, I mean, even before last
28:48
year. Some fantasy bias there, but
28:50
whatever. For sure.
28:53
But the for all intents and purposes here, for the sake of
28:56
this discussion, this is not a a blockbuster move.
28:59
This is not a a major splash in my opinion, but this is one of
29:03
those moves that contributes to the narrative that I subscribe
29:07
to that they just they make the moves necessary.
29:10
They bring in the right people. They they slot people into the
29:14
right roles, into the right positions to put themselves in a
29:18
position to win 90 games. And Hassan Kim is certainly
29:21
going to help your chances in that respect because Hassan Kim
29:24
is a good baseball player. And I, he could have, he could
29:29
have wound up anywhere and I would have said, I love this fit
29:31
and for the Rays, for his athleticism, for the way that
29:34
that slots into their style of play.
29:38
I think this is I, I think this is a great signing.
29:43
I don't think, I don't think they're getting enough respect
29:50
to be honest. And as I'm scrolling through
29:52
this roster, I think everyone's forgetting the names that are
29:57
coming back, then Mcclanahan coming back, Shane Baz coming
30:05
back, Rasmussen coming back, not to mention Peppio.
30:10
Taj Bradley had a run last year worth talking about.
30:15
You go around the lineup, I mean, they did bring in Danny
30:18
Jansen to to catch, so you got a little juice there.
30:21
The infield talked about him at the beginning of the show.
30:27
Kim and Arrow. Yandi Diaz is always going to
30:29
hit Brandon Lau. I feel like I'm curious to see
30:34
what's what's real there. So it feels like it's getting
30:39
somewhat questionable, but I don't know.
30:41
Maybe that was just a fluke last year.
30:43
You got to remember they traded for Christopher Morale with the
30:47
Cubs in that Esock Pereides deal.
30:50
Tyler Walls is still going to play defense.
30:52
Like there's enough there. Taylor Walls say, did I say
30:57
Tyler? There's enough there that they
31:01
can, they can string together dubs, they can get some dubs.
31:07
I was looking at their payroll and I'm like, I wonder if
31:09
they're in like a similar A's territory a little bit when I
31:16
projected to have a $70 million payroll.
31:19
And so again, like there's that target number that they got to
31:22
get to for revenue sharing just to be eligible.
31:25
And I know it's like consecutive years.
31:27
There's a lot of rules around that stuff, but.
31:31
They're just not, I mean, sure, on paper, maybe like in terms of
31:35
legality and and needing to reach certain thresholds, sure.
31:38
But I think in terms of the public perception, they're not
31:41
even, they're not mentioned in the same breath as the as the
31:44
A's. Because while they do it
31:47
unconventionally, they figure out ways to win and they have
31:50
adopted it as their own style. And that's what that's how they
31:53
do it. They have they have an
31:54
incredible scouting and analytical department and and
31:59
development department like and great coaching.
32:02
So like they do it in their own way.
32:04
And I think they still at least try to compete where it feels
32:07
like the A's just kind of punt. And it's like obvious to
32:10
everybody, but I don't know, man, like you got to remember
32:15
those those names specifically in the starting staff that are
32:17
coming back next year that are detrimental to to their success.
32:23
So will they finish last and they'll east?
32:28
I don't know. I mean, we got a hot takes and
32:30
predictions episode coming down the line here pretty soon.
32:32
But I think they're going to be better than what people are
32:38
predicting. And I wouldn't use last year too
32:42
much as a as a measurement. You know what I mean?
32:50
That's just me, but I do like Hassan Kim.
32:54
I keep seeing that his return date is getting closer and
32:57
closer. Opening day.
32:58
I think he's like May is what they're projecting.
33:03
Yeah, I think he said. Taylor Wallace is going to be
33:05
holding it down there at short the time being so.
33:08
Yeah. So it's a good piece.
33:13
You can potentially move it. Weird that there's an opt out,
33:19
but I guess I don't know like not seeing, not playing for a
33:26
while, being hurt for a while, missing the beginning of the
33:28
year, not having a spring training.
33:31
Maybe those are factors where you probably won't see a super,
33:36
super hot Hassan Kim right away. You know, maybe he's not finding
33:39
himself until summer finally getting, you know, 2-3 hundred
33:45
ABS under his belt before really settling in.
33:49
But I don't know, I I like it. I was, I think there's plenty of
33:54
good fits for him around the league, so I was I was anxious
33:58
to see where he landed. This surprised me a little.
34:03
Bit the Astros have moved on from Ryan Presley, the Cubs have
34:08
acquired the closer and the trade Cubs are sending over Juan
34:14
Baio to the Astros. Thanks for your service.
34:23
A little bit brought in hater made you take a back seat.
34:28
Yeah, there that I was reading an article today it talked about
34:32
how that was that. I mean that factored into it
34:40
that you know, that move of bringing in hater, which from a
34:43
business side of things you have to understand like what you're
34:46
what you're trying to do there. If you're if you're Houston or
34:49
if you're if you're Ryan Presley, of course, But I can
34:55
still see how you that that would rub you the wrong way.
34:58
Like man, I've. I wouldn't be thrilled about it.
35:00
I've given you what I've given you and like I, I've left it out
35:03
there for you and you still feel the need to move on.
35:07
And again, albeit a better arm on paper, but it's still got
35:14
still got to rub you the wrong way.
35:16
And so I, I, I could understand waving your no trade clause in
35:21
order to make something happen to where maybe you can get AI
35:24
don't want to say a fresh start because he's what is he, he's
35:27
like 36. So I mean, you're, you're coming
35:29
up on the tail end of your career anyway, but a fresh start
35:34
in terms of the remaining years you, you have left here in the
35:39
game. So, you know, good for Presley
35:42
going to a what's what I think is going to be a a competitive
35:45
Cubs team to where you're going to be the guy like you were in
35:49
Houston there for for some time. And I think this is a good move
35:54
for the Cubs. I think it's I think it's a win
35:56
win. I don't, I have no idea who the
36:00
Astros got back or I'm not familiar at all.
36:02
But like just looking at their bullpen stacked to their
36:09
pitching is stacked. They're always so stacked and
36:14
there could have been some something they notice or you
36:17
know, something that some reluctancy of fully stepping
36:22
into that, that setup role. And then I know nowadays like
36:27
the there's only so many typical closer formulas that are
36:34
followed, but that's Josh Hader, you know what I mean?
36:38
Like he's he's got to be able to have those opportunities and
36:42
splitting those or even having the conversation of like, if he
36:46
has a couple blown saves, you know, do we give him a break and
36:50
put Ryan Presley in and have that like controversy?
36:52
I think it's just it's easier to just avoid that overall.
36:55
They have a they have an incredible depth in the bullpen.
36:58
You know, get something for him, let him go, have an opportunity
37:02
to close games elsewhere. So, yeah, I think it's kind of a
37:05
win win. But yeah, 36, it's winding down.
37:12
I know I'd feel we're pretty much like years away from it at
37:14
this point, but I can't help but remember the the scenario in
37:19
which the White Sox created for themselves by bringing in
37:22
Kimbrel and keeping Hendrix around.
37:26
Or it was yeah, who did they? But who did they bring in after,
37:31
though? Was was Hendrix was already in
37:33
house at that point and they brought in Kimbrel.
37:35
Is that how it went down? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
37:38
It's just like a. That's one of those situations
37:40
where, you know, you can knock traditional styles of strategy
37:46
in baseball all you want, but there's some that I I firmly
37:50
believe that you just don't mess with.
37:51
And if you're going to be a team that wants a a traditional
37:56
closer, you want a guy to be the guy.
37:59
Fit the mold. You you fit that, you don't mess
38:02
with it, you make it you you find your guy and you don't mess
38:05
with it. And for for the Astros, maybe
38:08
they tried to make it work by having sort of a 1B guy, but you
38:13
know, it's. It's which on paper, like it
38:14
makes sense and there are plenty of organizations that I that
38:17
succeed in that rotating closer role.
38:21
And like there, I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
38:23
I think I think being a dominant long term closer is one of the
38:30
hardest things to do in baseball.
38:32
I think it's one of the hardest positions in baseball.
38:35
So like there's a reason why there's only so many.
38:38
There's a reason why, no offense, but like a Kenley
38:40
Jansen continues to get opportunities and a Craig
38:44
Kimbrel continues to get opportunities because like
38:47
there's only so many guys that are good at that.
38:50
There's only so many guys that are going to go down in record
38:52
books with that amount of saves. So it's like, yeah, the recency
38:57
you can take him through and be like, oh, we see a ton of blown
38:59
saves from these guys. It's like, yeah dude, but like
39:02
nobody can really. Everybody's going to blow this
39:04
role, like everybody's going to blow these saves.
39:07
So why not try your luck with a guy like what for the Orioles,
39:10
for example, bringing Kimberly in a while back?
39:13
It's like just try your luck with a guy that's done it
39:16
because again, everybody, you're not going to have a guy to
39:20
unless you're the guardians. You got Emmanuel Class A who
39:23
seemingly just ran the table well up until the post season,
39:25
of course. But it's like if you're going
39:28
to, if you're going to have, if you're going to adopt A guy for
39:32
your 9th inning or you're going to bring in a guy for your 9th
39:35
inning, why not try your luck with somebody that's that's been
39:37
doing it and, and put it in it. But I digress.
39:42
Let's let's move into a little bit of it's not draft time just
39:48
yet. We'll call it the, we'll call it
39:50
the appetizer to the draft. Who's corpuses?
39:54
Who's corpuses? Who said it, Whether it is like
40:01
milk, whether it is like wine, we have to find out.
40:21
Whose quote was this? Whose quote was this?
40:24
Dude when I when I created an AIII, don't even remember what
40:29
time I I think I said like 15 second Max.
40:32
Here's what I want and it turns out this like a minute and a
40:36
half long song. That's not even the full clip,
40:39
by the way. It's not I I went in and trimmed
40:41
it and like blended it in in all this other nonsense.
40:45
That's like that natural, like that natural song, like the way
40:50
you hear it sort of progress and and change.
40:52
It's that wasn't how it came out.
40:54
I had to sort of shorten it anyway.
40:58
I was like, you're not holding me down.
40:59
You're going to let. You're going to let.
41:01
This out, I'm going to let these drums breathe.
41:04
Whose quote was this? Let's talk Braves because like,
41:11
what's going on with the world? Why does everyone think the
41:13
Braves are like not going to do their thing?
41:16
I mean, we've talked about how I think Austin Riley is finally
41:19
getting his true full on chance. Like third base.
41:22
Third base is yours bro, Let's just get after this thing.
41:26
We'll see if the Magic is still with Darnell offensively, but
41:30
you have two MVP candidates as soon as you wake up in the
41:33
morning with Freddie Freeman and Acuna.
41:35
Ozuna is also going to be in that conversation also.
41:39
This just doesn't add up to me. Albie's I think is an underrated
41:42
spark plug that doesn't get enough love.
41:45
Young rotation you added in Charlie Morton.
41:47
How do they only win one game above 5?
41:50
Go one game above 500? That was in reference to the the
41:53
Pakoda rankings. I don't get it.
41:56
I think this is their division. This I, I, I know we usually say
42:03
this, this was in 2021. This was our hot takes and
42:09
Predictions episode Episode 190, making our predictions for the
42:17
season to follow 2021. Based on hints I feel like I was
42:24
early to the Alby's train and there's a bro in there so I'm
42:28
going to go. With me, Yeah.
42:34
Well done. Well done.
42:36
Well done. I What happened in 2021?
42:39
Yeah, they went on to win the World Series, which is what I
42:41
was just going to say. I, I, you know, like we talked
42:44
about last episode, kind of was getting the context clues from
42:47
like the, the, the bits of the episode before that and sort of
42:50
after. And we were, we were just going
42:52
in on, you know, the Pakoda ranking or the, the projections,
42:56
I should say. Yeah.
42:57
We're just so off the mark and like what, Like what is
43:00
happening that like that, even if they don't go on to win the
43:03
World Series, which they ultimately did, it's like you
43:05
got to you got to have them doing a little bit better than
43:08
they had them in the towards or at the bottom of the division
43:11
that year. So I'm glad to see that was one
43:14
thing that we we we nailed that year.
43:16
We ultimately nailed. We landed the biggest fish.
43:19
Like if the team that wins the World Series, we were we were
43:21
high on them apparently to start the year.
43:23
So good on us. It's good that we're reviewing
43:26
them after the season now. Like that's that's a new thing
43:29
that we're going to be doing. Yeah, for sure.
43:31
Because yeah, that's I love when hot takes pan out.
43:37
Makes me feel good. You know what makes me feel
43:40
good? What you got, pal?
43:43
Doing the drafts, it is our latest drafts.
43:49
I hope you guys, I hope you guys enjoy the drafts 'cause even if
43:52
you didn't, I wouldn't even care because I love doing them and I
43:56
think Nate. I think we would do this if the
43:58
record button was not on. That's a fact.
44:00
We would just sit here and, you know, just dudes talking ball.
44:05
But the latest drafts idea that we came up with is birthplace
44:14
slash birth state draft. OK?
44:18
So we've got it pulled up where players, and this is going to be
44:22
all time where players were born, what state they're born
44:26
in. We're going to follow the same
44:27
structure. We're going to fill out a full
44:31
lineup, one through 9 traditional lineup, you know,
44:36
pitcher, catcher, so on and so forth.
44:37
And we're going to add ADH. So we're going to have, what, 10
44:41
picks? Right.
44:43
Was it, this is what I was going to ask you, is that like are we,
44:47
are we going to go back to the to the two pitcher thing as we
44:51
used to, We initially did starter and reliever.
44:57
I mean, we can. What do you want to do?
44:58
Pitcher Pitcher. Like 2 pitcher spots whether you
45:02
want a starter or reliever. Which tank?
45:07
I like keeping it consistent so maybe we just pick one or the
45:10
other. Because it's in.
45:14
My opinion, it's hard to grade or it's, it's, it's hard to pick
45:18
a winner if you, if you, if you're presenting two different
45:21
products. So like if somebody had enough,
45:23
if you went with two relievers and I went with two starters and
45:26
it's like, well, how do you, how do you really judge that, you
45:28
know? So it's only a starting pitcher,
45:35
no reliever. If you want.
45:37
OK, wait, how did we do the last draft?
45:39
It was the numbers. What did we do?
45:40
Just a pitcher. Just a pitcher.
45:43
Yeah. I don't know.
45:46
It's your call. What?
45:47
What do you want to do? I'll defer to you.
45:50
I mean, because if I get freaking Panama, I'm going MO,
45:55
but if we're only starting, this is I'm.
45:57
Pretty sure it's the only it's only the 50 U.S. states.
46:00
Oh, we're only doing we're. Not going to US territories.
46:04
All right. That would possibly an oversight
46:06
on my part. But that is a little bit because
46:08
I was looking at the birthplace on the link you sent me through
46:11
Bleacher Report. But I've seriously the
46:15
randomizer. The randomizer.
46:17
Did I say Bleacher Report? I'm losing it baseball
46:20
reference. But you're saying the
46:22
randomizer, we can't necessarily add these other countries in.
46:26
I get it correct. I get it correct.
46:30
So MO was out, correct. Too bad.
46:33
All right. And then what about the top
46:35
three war thing? Did you like that little?
46:40
Which I don't know if you noticed by the way, you didn't
46:43
use all three. Well, it didn't matter.
46:47
I got to the end of the draft and I'm picking like peanuts,
46:49
Lowry. Like that's the only eligible.
46:52
Player. That's what makes it cool.
46:54
Is that like stupid? You got to decide when you use
46:57
it. Stupid.
46:59
All right? I mean, I'm down.
47:00
If you are, I'm down. I'm down.
47:03
Shit out, I've got my. I got my brand new whiteboard
47:06
here. Look at those pizza slices.
47:08
Look at those pizza slices. My, my, my lineup and Nate's
47:12
lineup ready to be ready to be completed.
47:14
Here US what? What did we decide on?
47:17
One pitcher. One pitcher.
47:20
Whatever. Starter, reliever.
47:22
What everyone? Knew that's fair.
47:23
OK. One show for those new to the
47:26
draft. It's pitcher, catcher, 4
47:28
infielders, 3 outfielders and ADH.
47:30
Oh, we're sticking to that. OK.
47:31
Yeah. And ADH and are we?
47:33
Are we? You want to explain if for those
47:36
who are nude? You want to explain the three
47:38
war thing again? So we felt filter it by WAR and
47:43
you only get three top three WAR guys on your roster.
47:49
Utilize that however you want. Kyle backed himself into a
47:52
corner last week and didn't get to use the third guy.
47:55
That's on him. He has a major ever said on my
47:58
part, OK? Who?
48:00
I mean, did we like decide a winner last last time did Was it
48:06
up? I went back and read the.
48:07
I went back and and read the comments.
48:10
It was closer this last time around, which I agreed with the
48:14
first one the IT. Was a landslide.
48:17
What was the first? What was the first topic we did?
48:21
Oh, alphabetical, that's what it was.
48:24
Yeah, that was a landslide. The the jersey numbers doing it
48:27
based on jersey numbers that guys wore throughout their
48:30
career. This most recent one that was
48:32
closer, but the consensus was that you won with it again.
48:37
So you will take first pick and to maintain consistency we will
48:42
keep it a snake draft. All right, you Are you ready?
48:46
Hit that randomizer. First date up West Virginia.
48:51
Tough one to start with. Yeah, that's tough.
48:54
West Virginia 133 names. Oh no.
49:01
Can you filter by? Oh, you can.
49:03
Yeah, you can. Whoa, whoa.
49:10
OK, Some names in here? Not really.
49:20
Yeah, let's not get. Carried away here, it's top
49:21
heavy. It's real top heavy, Real top
49:23
heavy. Wow, real top heavy some of
49:28
these guys. No, I'm there's no way that some
49:32
of these guys are real. Like, come on.
49:34
Wow. Oh my gosh.
49:39
Like, you're not going to pick this guy.
49:40
So I'm going to go ahead and say it.
49:42
Walt Craddock? Who is that?
49:48
Like, no offense to the Craddock family, but what?
49:52
What are we? Doing well.
49:54
I mean, I'm just going to burn 1 right away.
49:56
Give me George Brett at third base.
49:58
That's fair. Oh no, I'm sorry, 4 infield
50:00
spots. So just I'm just going to George
50:02
Brett. Oh true, I didn't even need the
50:05
well. Pizza slice.
50:07
Yeah, whatever. Put an asterisk there for you,
50:13
I'm going to go ahead and see. A problem is is I don't.
50:19
Come on, there's only one other name on here.
50:23
What are you talking? About you're not doing any of
50:25
these other randos. Let's go, Bill Mazeroski.
50:37
Really. Really ten time All Star All
50:44
Star Hall of Famer, What are we talking about?
50:46
And didn't have to burn one of my one of my picks.
50:51
I feel like. I feel like.
50:53
What was the other name you were talking about?
50:54
Oh, I feel like John Crook would have gotten you a little more
50:57
votes. That's all.
50:57
I didn't see John Crook on here. Where's?
51:01
Oh, sure enough. 9th. No, I'm going.
51:03
What? I'm going with the Hall of
51:04
Famer. What are we talking about?
51:05
I wouldn't want to change it. I don't care.
51:07
All right, That's that's one of my infielders.
51:12
All right, spin that wheel, sucka.
51:14
Next state up. You got to be kidding me.
51:23
North Dakota, bro, these these generators.
51:27
Hate us 20 people 20. Players 20.
51:35
Oh man. What?
51:41
Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and take this sucks because I.
51:50
Don't want to? I don't want to have to blow one
51:53
of my picks on this. I know.
51:58
Did you say 1 pitcher? Yeah.
52:02
Oh my God, this this sucks. Well, I guess.
52:10
It's down for a respin but. No, that's that's against the.
52:15
Rules of the game. It's just cheap, yeah.
52:17
It's not cheap. Can I question, can I?
52:23
Oh, no, I can't. Never mind.
52:26
I'm going to go. I'm going to go.
52:33
Travis Hafner is my DH. Damn it.
52:44
Asterisk, technically. Oh, I know, I know.
52:48
But you're going to have to use one too.
52:51
Sure I am. Unless you're an idiot.
52:57
Oh, man, I think, I think we could be in for a doozy.
53:06
Yeah, I can't get too crazy here.
53:08
Give me Darren Urstadt in the outfield.
53:12
Sucks, yeah. It does.
53:14
No offense to Darren Arsad, big big Darren Arsad guy, Not
53:18
really. But for the sake of the draft,
53:22
bigger big Darren Arsad guy. Dude N freaking Dakota, what are
53:25
we doing? Let me.
53:27
Guess the next state is going to be Alaska.
53:33
All right, next state your pick right?
53:36
Yeah, my pick. Come on randomizer, don't bang
53:42
us here. Oh, you're getting banged?
53:44
Come. On banged Vermont bro, what are
53:49
we doing? These aren't even states.
53:51
They're states, but barely come on.
53:54
No offense if you live in those states, but come on.
53:59
And this is. Unbelievable.
54:00
And to answer the question, no, this draft, this, this white
54:04
board was not less than three. I got it at 5 below.
54:06
Shout out Five Below and it was in fact $5.00, but I could have
54:12
gotten one for $2.00 at Walmart but I wanted to have it for
54:16
tonight's draft so I I made an impulse buy and just spent $5 on
54:21
it. So mission failed unfortunately.
54:24
Well, scrolling down, making sure there isn't some young buck
54:31
in here that we didn't know about and there's not, so that's
54:36
sick. You mean Carlton Fisk, My last
54:40
war? Guy that's a great, that's a
54:42
great catcher pick that's. A good That's a good one to.
54:45
I mean, for a position that you often throw away in drafts, like
54:48
that's what do we say Vermont? I mean this again, this is a
54:54
situation where it's like, I don't even know who to go with
54:57
because none of these names are even recognizable.
55:00
So this kind of bones me for. That's why I was scrolling down
55:05
a little bit, just to see Scroll down.
55:07
There's nobody here. Nothing tough, man.
55:17
We want to go. We want to roll out Ed Doheny.
55:21
I think an elder Bowman or maybe Heine Stafford there.
55:27
Seemed like Hazleton. There seemed like some good
55:30
picks. I mean, come on.
55:31
Born in 1876. Was Vermont even rocking?
55:36
Was there even anything happening in Vermont in 1876?
55:43
Dude, I there's not a, there is not a recognizable name after
55:49
Carlton Fisk, what do I do? I don't know, you got to suck it
55:52
up. Many apologies to anybody in the
55:57
chat that's from Vermont. No, no apologies to anybody in
56:02
Vermont. Produce better baseball.
56:03
Talent. This is ridiculous.
56:05
Dakota or West Virginia? No, West Virginia.
56:08
There's shots fired there. No West Virginia produces fine
56:11
talent. Same with you could make the
56:13
argument for North Dakota comparatively, but Vermont be
56:16
better. Vermont.
56:17
This is a joke. I'm just, I'm a throw it out
56:20
there, 'cause Nate's already picked #2 #2 you want to know
56:24
who number 2IN war is on on Baseball Reference, according to
56:28
Baseball Reference from Vermont in war #2 Larry Gardner.
56:34
Larry Gardner was 58165. Does that name sound familiar?
56:38
No, it probably doesn't. You know why?
56:39
Because he played from 19 O 8 to 1924.
56:43
So I don't know what to, I don't know what to do.
56:46
Ernie Johnson could be interpreted as the backyard
56:49
baseball character. Maybe I'd go with him.
56:55
All right, well, I'm going to pick.
56:57
Harry Houlihan. Where's Harry?
57:01
Yeah. Walt Land Franconi.
57:04
Yeah, I saw Walt Land, Frank Land.
57:06
Land Franconi. What do we think?
57:08
Harry Houl. Oh, yeah.
57:10
No, I'm going. Harry Houlihan.
57:13
Harry Houlihan played from 1922 to 1922.
57:18
So. Played seven games.
57:19
Played seven games. What even is he?
57:21
I don't know actually. I I need to finalize my.
57:24
No, I can't do that. Either he's a pitcher, yeah, I
57:26
can't do. That What's Walt Lane?
57:29
Oh, also a pitcher. I mean, come on.
57:32
You roll out Chris Duffy who is tough man.
57:41
Who is Heine Stafford? OK, so Heine Stafford is listed
57:44
as a pinch hitter. What does that mean?
57:45
What do I do with that? Genuinely asking, what do I what
57:49
do I do with that birdie tebbits?
57:52
How are we just scrolling past that name?
57:55
Where's birdie? What is Birdie Tebbits?
57:57
He's a catcher, born in 1912. Burlington for sure.
58:03
Good, good, fine. Hey, thanks.
58:05
Tip of the cap. Thanks for helping me out there.
58:07
Birdie Tebbits is my catcher. Birdie tebbits Excellent.
58:14
How about that? And this is Vermont, never to be
58:18
spoken of again. Seriously.
58:22
All right, my first pick. There's something good, dude,
58:26
something deep, next states is. Pennsylvania.
58:43
Much better, much better 1500 names compared.
58:48
To 30 years, baby. Oh, bait.
58:49
Well, that's not good for me because that means you get a lot
58:52
to pull from Oh wait, I already know who I'm.
58:54
I already know who I'm going with.
58:55
What am I talking about actually?
58:57
Crap, dude. Oh boy.
59:00
Freaking all right, I got to anything out I got to.
59:06
I'm going to play this smart here.
59:08
I'm going to play this smart. I'm you know what I'm going to
59:15
go wow, I did not realize there was I mean that two of these I
59:21
knew for sure because I've I've posted about it before very wild
59:25
story if you if you know what I'm talking about, but wow, that
59:31
is a lot Pennsylvania's deep, deep.
59:35
All right, you know, I want to play this I'm going to play this
59:37
strategically here. OK, that's fair.
59:40
I'm going to go I've. Used.
59:41
I've used all three of mine so. No, you haven't.
59:44
I have I had to Darren Urstadt. Oh, he was top three, you're
59:50
right. Burned.
59:52
Me, Oh, then I'm sitting pretty. Then I'm going to no, I'm going
1:00:03
to save it. I'm I'm going to save it because
1:00:05
there's, there's some depth here.
1:00:06
And this isn't even a. This isn't even a.
1:00:08
Lot, a lot of depth. It's not an L here, I'm going
1:00:10
Kangaroo P Junior in my outfield.
1:00:13
You had to. You had to.
1:00:15
And for those wondering, he's not a top three guy as as far.
1:00:18
As crazy as that dude, he's not even top four.
1:00:21
Yeah, shout out Eddie Plank. That's funny.
1:00:34
I think I'm going to. I think I'm going to roll out.
1:00:44
I think, I think give me Mike Piazza in my DH spot.
1:00:50
All right. Do you like that?
1:00:53
Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't have done that.
1:00:56
I well, actually no, you. Yeah, Yeah, you kind of have to
1:00:59
because. I would have gone Griffey for
1:01:02
for the record if you didn't. Yeah.
1:01:06
So but big names up there. Honus Wagner Stand musical, left
1:01:11
alone, not taken. Reggie Jackson in this group as
1:01:15
well. All right, next states Hawaii.
1:01:25
Oh, that's not going to be as good as you think it is 49 guys.
1:01:31
What was Vermont 20? 3838 Oh I think I already know
1:01:36
one name I can go with. He's a top three.
1:01:40
That sucks. I was going to go Shane
1:01:43
Victorino. I can't.
1:01:50
That sucks bro. Ron Darling entered the chat.
1:02:02
Josh in the chat said if Griffey is not top three, the stats
1:02:05
broken junior is number one all time and not the.
1:02:10
We hit the war calculator, we hit the war police, you know.
1:02:14
I'm just going with what Baseball Reference is showing me
1:02:17
and he wasn't even. What did I say?
1:02:18
He's not even top 4. Kirby Yates is from Hawaii.
1:02:24
Oh yeah. Big Hawaii guy.
1:02:26
Did not know that. Well, no, no worth.
1:02:31
Not really worth spending too much time here.
1:02:34
Give me Colton Wong in the infield.
1:02:39
I'm even though we're doing like 4 infielders and three
1:02:43
outfielders, I'm still putting guys where they play just for
1:02:46
whatever overachiever Peace of Mind let.
1:02:48
Me do hear it. That's so funny that you blew.
1:02:52
You had to blow. I had to.
1:02:54
Like you didn't have a choice. Like I was not blowing the first
1:02:57
one, I had to then blow the next two.
1:03:00
Darren Urstadt was the only other name outside of Travis
1:03:05
Hafner, and Carlton Fisk was the only name from Vermont.
1:03:11
I'm pulling actually that I'm not even pulling.
1:03:14
I'm like I'm this is this is awfully close here.
1:03:18
I'm going to go you went Colton Wong.
1:03:22
I'm going to go see. This is where the it's these
1:03:28
pics is where. It's where winters are made.
1:03:33
Jordan Yamamoto. Why does that sound familiar?
1:03:36
Not the ocean. Nobu.
1:03:38
I'm not, but I I feel like I've heard that name before.
1:03:41
Kennicoa Toshera. Kian Wong.
1:03:46
That's Colton's brother, right? He Who did he play for?
1:03:52
Tyler Yates. We got Kurt Suzuki, but I
1:03:58
already have a catcher, Ron, Darlene.
1:04:02
It's a tough name to nothing against Ron Darling.
1:04:06
That's a tough name to bring pitcher spot, you know.
1:04:08
No, no, I know. But I'm just talking about names
1:04:10
that I I would consider. Yeah, I'm going to have to go.
1:04:14
I hate that I'm doing this, but I'm going to go.
1:04:17
Shane Victorino. Yeah, got you.
1:04:24
Hawaii. This is my 5th pick.
1:04:27
That is your second top three guy.
1:04:31
Oh, true. Yeah, Asterisk.
1:04:33
All right, so I need a first, two infielders, 2 out fillers
1:04:37
and a pitcher. We got no repeats on this
1:04:40
randomizer, correct? It if we do, I'll just I'll oh,
1:04:45
oh, actually, no, that is a valid point.
1:04:47
I was thinking about that earlier today.
1:04:48
I'm like. Do we go great if like
1:04:51
California came up twice, but. But I'm saying like before we
1:04:54
encounter that, do we want to agree to a re spin or do we want
1:04:57
to stick with the repeats because you technically there's
1:04:59
no reason you couldn't. I don't know what we'll do if we
1:05:05
give Vermont again. We just pray that we don't land
1:05:09
on Vermont. I think it's funnier if we if we
1:05:11
keep it. So we keep it.
1:05:13
Keep keep keep repeats, no re spins.
1:05:17
Fair enough. All right, Whose pick is it?
1:05:20
Is it me? It's you.
1:05:22
Because you went Colton, I went Shane Victorino, Maine, who is
1:05:28
from Maine. 78 names, that's a little better.
1:05:31
That's that. That means nothing.
1:05:33
What if they're just a bunch of Joe Blows?
1:05:38
It's only Joe Blows. It's only Joe Blows.
1:05:41
What is this even me? Who are these people?
1:05:45
Oh, chummy Gray Chadbourne, These Lewis Socka Lexus.
1:05:52
That's not a real guy. That's not a real guy.
1:05:56
Bro this is like when you're scouting and like MLB The Show
1:06:00
just fake names rolling through Pop Williams.
1:06:08
Is this him? Hold on, hold on.
1:06:15
This might be him. This is his.
1:06:20
This is him. This is my guy.
1:06:23
This is who I'm going with. Please tell me he, oh, he's a
1:06:26
pitcher. I'm going with the greatest name
1:06:33
to have ever existed in Major League Baseball.
1:06:38
My pitcher. I'm going with Cannonball
1:06:43
Titcomb. That's nice.
1:06:49
That's nice. Cannonball Titcomb.
1:06:54
How far down is he? He's literally at the like the
1:06:57
bottom of the list. Oh, it's Liddell.
1:07:01
Liddell. But I saw Titcombe and I knew
1:07:03
that that was him. I had to look it up to confirm.
1:07:06
Cannonball. Titcombe is my pitcher.
1:07:08
Talk about winning votes on a name I've.
1:07:12
I feel like you got to put Liddell.
1:07:13
First off, I think it's cheating if you throw nicknames in.
1:07:16
No this. If you've been following this
1:07:18
podcast for any length of time, you've seen my post on multiple
1:07:21
occasions because I love sharing it from from time to time.
1:07:24
Cannonball Titcombe is the best name in baseball history.
1:07:28
Argue with the wall. Do I roll out Jack Robinson?
1:07:31
Just hoping someone flies through that when they're
1:07:33
reading it like. Pudge in the chat said -3.4 war
1:07:38
for cannonball, tick comb solid. I'm not worried about that in
1:07:42
this, in this, in this draft. Clyde Suckaforth.
1:07:48
Man, I legitimately don't recognize a single name.
1:07:53
I am so glad I, I mean, if, if we're going to be stuck with Joe
1:07:58
blows, no offense to Cuke Barrows.
1:08:04
I'm glad I got cannibal Titcomb like that.
1:08:06
That is the best pick of the, of any of the drafts we've done
1:08:11
thus far. That that is my favorite pick
1:08:13
that I've I've had pinned up against the wall that is Maine
1:08:18
and not having any names to choose from.
1:08:21
I mean, that's a. Steal to keep it, to keep it
1:08:24
fair. Because I feel like, you know
1:08:26
what, if you're going to burn a pitcher spot, I'm going to burn
1:08:29
a pitcher spot. I'm going to go chummy Gray.
1:08:34
All right. I mean, that's a, that's a great
1:08:37
name, but I really feel like you would have been better suited to
1:08:40
go with what was the guy's name. Now it's not loading.
1:08:50
Pam Allen. So who are you going with?
1:08:58
I'm going chummy Gray, oh semi murch.
1:09:02
Nope, you already went chummy Gray.
1:09:03
That's nice. Semi Murch, born in 18862220.
1:09:11
Freaking giant back in the day. Yeah, wasn't the average height
1:09:16
of a man like 5/2? Got to plug in this Ethernet.
1:09:24
Cuke cuke barrows. Sure.
1:09:26
My Internet works. This is crazy.
1:09:31
Cuke Barrows. Yeah, what a name.
1:09:33
Yeah, there we go. All right.
1:09:35
Oh, the Coombs brothers, I cannot.
1:09:39
Believe that's I'm what a steal. What an absolute steal.
1:09:46
I hope if you're making your, if you're voting once, I put the
1:09:50
graphic up and I asked. For for, we don't need.
1:09:54
We don't need to cook this up that much, guy.
1:09:57
I can cook it up as much as I want.
1:09:59
You better remember this pick, all right?
1:10:03
Who's got first? You've got first pick, correct?
1:10:07
Random state is Kentucky. Give me something good in
1:10:14
Kentucky. Kentucky.
1:10:19
Kentucky's got some names. Kentucky's got some names, don't
1:10:22
they? Am I crazy?
1:10:31
Chicken Wolf. That's not a I'm convinced half
1:10:38
the guys that are listed having played Major League Baseball
1:10:40
didn't actually play Major League Baseball.
1:10:42
This is crazy. Don't talk noise on my boy
1:10:44
chicken. Chicken Wolf.
1:10:51
Oh, oh, you already blew your your spot.
1:10:54
You could have went Walker Bueller here.
1:10:57
And I could have, but I got, unfortunately, I got Chummy
1:11:00
Gray. Wait, what state are you on?
1:11:05
I'm on Kentucky. Dude, so you just have no war?
1:11:11
Where is he at? I don't even see him.
1:11:13
We still playing, he's still accumulating and he hasn't had a
1:11:18
bang up career. 46th WAR of 12.24 Lexington, KY Shout out.
1:11:28
Phil Roof. These are some ridiculous names.
1:11:33
Ay yo-yo dude, give me. That's back when they gave you
1:11:39
names based on your profession. Big time.
1:11:43
Phil Roof, Yeah. That's a red eret.
1:11:49
Chicken wolf is just it's standing out to me.
1:11:56
I don't know, man. None of this is none of this is
1:12:01
great. This is good for me.
1:12:03
This is great for me. I think I'm going to go.
1:12:08
Where'd he go? I just need to confirm position.
1:12:11
There he is. Yeah.
1:12:20
Yeah, I'm going to do it. Nah, give me Dan Ugla.
1:12:33
There we go. Good pick.
1:12:34
Good pick considering. Yeah, infield is looking a
1:12:46
little thin. And I'm going to go Pee Wee
1:12:49
Reese. And that's that finishes off my
1:12:52
top three ward names. So my top three ward names as it
1:12:57
stands right now, Pee Wee Reese, Shane Victorino and Travis
1:12:59
Hafner for Kentucky, Hawaii and North Dakota, respectively.
1:13:03
Your top three are Brett George Brett, Carlton Fisk and Darren
1:13:09
Urstadt for West Virginia, Vermont and North Dakota,
1:13:11
respectively. Next state up.
1:13:15
By the way, Jay Buhner was in the conversation in my head.
1:13:19
Another good pick again considering.
1:13:21
Yeah next state Wisconsin. Have we picked every non
1:13:28
baseball? We have like a warm freaking
1:13:30
state. Outside of Pennsylvania, which
1:13:32
rolls deep, we have not had a baseball state yet.
1:13:37
Oh no, guy. Oh no.
1:13:42
What city? What did I say?
1:13:43
What state? Wisconsin.
1:13:46
Wisconsin. There's 256 names.
1:13:48
Let me guess, Joe Blows. Bro what are we?
1:13:53
Kid Nichols, Who is that? Pink, holly, pink.
1:13:59
Holly, who is that? It's.
1:14:02
High up on this list. I'm like, I'm just going to have
1:14:05
to find oh, this sucks. Yeah, it does.
1:14:13
I'm going to go, man, you learn a lot doing these drafts.
1:14:16
Like some of these guys. I'm like, I had no idea you
1:14:19
played. You were from there.
1:14:24
Chat labs. Nice.
1:14:30
All right, I'm going to go. I won't get too far down the
1:14:33
list here. I'm going to.
1:14:46
Go Jeez, man, what's going on in Wisconsin?
1:14:52
Not baseball, I can tell you that much.
1:14:54
That's for sure. I'm going to go, we said.
1:14:58
One pitcher. Yeah.
1:15:01
I'm going to go. Man, this draft is, I mean.
1:15:14
This is a wild ride. I mean, it's pretty I.
1:15:17
Never want to do this one again. No, this is great.
1:15:20
I love this. This is great.
1:15:28
Who? Nobody was born in Wisconsin
1:15:31
that ever played baseball. Otto Schomburg was all right.
1:15:39
I'm going to put. What I'm going to play this
1:15:42
smart here and I'm going to, I'm going to use some flexibility
1:15:50
here and I'm going to go no, can I do that?
1:16:04
What do you got? OK.
1:16:05
I'm choosing between two names here, and I think I'm going to
1:16:10
go with, yeah, I think, OK, yeah, I'm going to do this.
1:16:14
I'm going to go, I'm going to go Gavin Lux in my outfield.
1:16:24
Whoa. He's listed as a left fielder in
1:16:26
Baseball Reference. Relax Wisconsin.
1:16:33
This is my 8th pick. Give me Dalton var show.
1:16:39
Yeah, that was the other name I was going with, where you put
1:16:41
them infield or outfield, Not infield.
1:16:44
You already got your catcher. You already got my catcher.
1:16:51
I I actually think I'm going to win this draft, I'm not going to
1:16:53
lie. I think you will too, unless
1:16:58
Mookie comes in late I. Swear if you get if if we land
1:17:02
on Tennessee I that will be. Mookie has saved the day.
1:17:09
That'll be one of the better that'll be one of the better
1:17:11
bits of this podcast. If you get Mookie bets if if we
1:17:15
land on Tennessee for the, what, 10th and final pick.
1:17:19
All right, You got first pick, right?
1:17:22
Yeah. This this coming one?
1:17:24
Yeah. Utah, dude, this.
1:17:29
I'm never using this generator again.
1:17:31
Never using this generator again.
1:17:33
You doing to me? Utah 48 names.
1:17:38
Just just give me Texas. Just once, just Texas.
1:17:42
Come on, I don't know a single name on here.
1:17:48
This blows. Drew Thorpe is way higher on
1:17:55
this list than he needs to be. For those curious, Bruce Hurst,
1:18:02
number one on the list according to WAR.
1:18:06
This is awful. This might be the worst state.
1:18:12
I don't know, do Vermont. I've actually, Yeah, this.
1:18:16
Yikes. This who?
1:18:18
Couldn't even tell you who any of these people are.
1:18:22
I don't these I don't. These aren't.
1:18:25
These aren't real people. I don't know what to do.
1:18:29
These aren't real people. I need an out.
1:18:31
I need an outfielder and an infielder.
1:18:36
You got to be kidding me. No, you need you put Gavin Lux
1:18:39
in your outfield. You need an.
1:18:40
You need 2 infielders. No, I need.
1:18:44
Yeah, no. You have Griffey, Victorino and
1:18:47
Lux in your outer. Victorino is is on my infield.
1:18:51
Why? What am I saying That was, I'm
1:18:55
sorry. That was a brain, brain fart for
1:18:59
sure. Victoria is in my infield.
1:19:02
Why? Yeah, that's stupid.
1:19:05
Crap, I'm sorry man. I'm trying.
1:19:09
I'm trying to find. Yeah, that was dumb.
1:19:13
Wow dude, what would have happened if my outfield was
1:19:16
full? Like before I realized that I
1:19:18
had written down Victorino by accent.
1:19:22
There's not even fun names on here.
1:19:25
No, there's not even fun names. The most white Wonder Bread
1:19:29
names you could Dave Gray, Kelly Downs, Billy Mitchell, Billy
1:19:37
Cook, Bro Porter Hodge. What are we doing?
1:19:42
Oh, Porter Hodge is a 2024 guy? Who?
1:19:44
Who the heck does Porter Hodge play for?
1:19:46
The Cubs? How about that?
1:19:48
Herman. Herman Franks, come on, catcher,
1:19:51
catcher and pinch hitter. So that that's not going to
1:19:54
work. I think we need to make a rule
1:19:57
moving forward any player that's listed.
1:20:00
I mean, hitter, you just do whatever you.
1:20:01
Want you can do whatever you want with them.
1:20:03
Yeah, a bad idea. Ultimately, that's what would
1:20:06
happen should he get slotted into the.
1:20:08
I'm just trying to find someone that isn't a pitcher.
1:20:15
Fred Sanford, everybody is a is a freaking OK this this.
1:20:26
I owe you Tall. This win, this is, this is going
1:20:29
to be what jams you up. Yeah, because the rest didn't.
1:20:33
Because. You needed a bounce back pick
1:20:34
here because I feel like as it stands right now, I've got the,
1:20:38
I've got the draft. If.
1:20:43
People know ball. Like if people know ball, but if
1:20:45
they don't know ball, they go, oh, I recognize more names on
1:20:48
Nate's, Nate's lineup. Oh, that's that's a you problem.
1:20:55
Oh my gosh, everyone freaking pitches.
1:20:58
Yep. Outfielder and 1st baseman, See.
1:20:59
They know in the chat, they know what you need.
1:21:03
I think I had him, but I would kept looking.
1:21:06
Where'd he go? Oh, there he is, Chris Shelton.
1:21:12
There's a shut on field. You are.
1:21:18
This is over. This is over.
1:21:21
It's over. I'm never doing this draft
1:21:24
again. I love this draft and not
1:21:26
because I think I'm going to win, but because of how insane
1:21:28
it is. Like the I'm seeing names, I'll
1:21:32
say again, I'm convinced have never seen a baseball field,
1:21:36
much less like forget that exists.
1:21:38
I don't think these people are real.
1:21:39
I don't think they are either. This is Utah, this is your 9th
1:21:45
pick, no? What am I missing here?
1:21:51
What was before Utah? Was that Wisconsin?
1:21:56
I thought we had one. Kentucky was 7.
1:22:00
Kentucky. This is 9th, your 10th pick will
1:22:03
be your 10th and final pick will be an outfielder.
1:22:06
I'm going to go. I should have been looking at
1:22:08
who I'm going to. Go with should have gone Gordon,
1:22:18
Slade, Newt, Kimball, George Theodore So many pictures on.
1:22:26
This Brandon Duckworth. I know I wanted that one too.
1:22:29
Herman Franks, OH. Did you say Duckworth is a
1:22:33
pitcher? Yep.
1:22:35
Wow, he's a 2001 to 2008. Guy that's.
1:22:39
I think I would have remembered that.
1:22:43
Joe Barlow, Gordon Slade, Kelly Downs.
1:22:50
Why does that sound familiar? Pitcher.
1:22:52
Pitcher, Come on, Dave Downs. Is that a brother?
1:22:57
Father. Is it a father?
1:23:00
No. His brother, brother of Kelly
1:23:01
Downs, also pitcher Billy Cook. Yeah, I'm, I'm seeing in the
1:23:10
chat. Billy Cook.
1:23:12
Throw him in the outfield. Oh, you can't.
1:23:15
Is he an infielder? He has an infielder.
1:23:20
So what does that mean? I have left 01 infielder.
1:23:25
Get Me Out of here. Kye Bush.
1:23:32
Just go, Billy Cook. Why?
1:23:34
At this point I'm looking at the second round of the 2021 draft.
1:23:40
Billy Cook was tenth round of the 2021 draft.
1:23:46
We're really doing this. Relax.
1:23:51
I wish. I wish you could sort it by.
1:23:59
By draft stock here. OK, I've spent way too much time
1:24:06
like this, so I'm going to go. I'm going to go.
1:24:14
Wait a minute. Bobby Mitchell.
1:24:19
Why does that sound familiar? Bobby Mitchell, why does that?
1:24:27
I'm looking at him right now. Why does that sound familiar?
1:24:37
Doesn't matter. He's just in her fielder.
1:24:38
All right. What did I say?
1:24:39
Billy Cook. All right.
1:24:43
William Monroe Cook. Send it.
1:24:49
So give me a decent state here. This is insane.
1:24:55
What state did we just do? Utah.
1:24:58
Utah. That was my 10th pick.
1:25:01
All right, here we go. You roll out Idaho, I'm breaking
1:25:03
this thing. Don't do it.
1:25:11
Random state and I I saw in the chat I think somebody asked what
1:25:16
what generator I'm using. This is gigacalculator.com.
1:25:20
Trash. Never again.
1:25:21
Never again. Here we go, random state.
1:25:25
Who's got first pick? I do, you do.
1:25:28
I do. Give me Tennessee.
1:25:30
Give me Tennessee, Illinois. What a joke of a.
1:25:37
Generator. I mean that's better, but like
1:25:39
it's sure but worst generator. Illinois over 1000 guys.
1:25:44
Wow, a lot of Hall of Farmers. Really.
1:25:48
Yeah. Let me see here.
1:25:50
War 111. Ricky Henderson.
1:25:54
No kidding. Robin, you out, Jim?
1:25:56
Tell me. Robin Roberts, Lou Boudreaux,
1:26:01
Kirby Puckett, Freddie Lynn I. Know rolling deep.
1:26:07
Jesse Barfield, I got that baseball card.
1:26:11
Yeah, but what about Fritz Ostermueller?
1:26:15
Forget him. I'm.
1:26:16
Going Oh baby, what a slam dunk of a final pick just outside the
1:26:23
top three. I'm putting Jim, Tommy and look
1:26:28
at that, wouldn't you know it? I've look at that.
1:26:30
I've got my I've got my first base spot waveform.
1:26:35
I knew. I just I I knew.
1:26:37
Did you write with your non dominant hand?
1:26:39
What? Are you talking about?
1:26:41
That's brutal. What's brutal?
1:26:44
My writing. So read that.
1:26:45
Yeah. What?
1:26:47
It's awful. Whatever.
1:26:49
You're just. You're just upset you lost the
1:26:50
draft. I'm pissed.
1:26:52
I hate this. I would do any other draft
1:26:55
before I did this one again. Never again.
1:27:02
Well. This is great.
1:27:06
I love this. I love this.
1:27:10
Just I'm scrolling down to make sure there's not like any like
1:27:12
young freaking phenom that's on here just doesn't have a ton of
1:27:18
war. Just take the owl.
1:27:20
Shut. Up, take the owl.
1:27:23
Yeah, but Chuck dressing could save me.
1:27:30
Emil Gross. Dude, what an insane draft.
1:27:35
How was Charlie Comiskey in the Hall of Fame with A7 War as a
1:27:44
as? Is that what the?
1:27:45
Is that what the field was named after?
1:27:48
Comiskey. Comiskey Park.
1:27:50
It's named after him. Yeah, probably.
1:27:52
Safe bet. Buzz Capra.
1:27:54
Egyptian Healy. These are not real people.
1:28:00
They're not real people. All right, let's go back up
1:28:05
here. Who was your Who was your 10th
1:28:08
pick? I don't know Chris Shelton.
1:28:14
I have him at 912. 3-4 trash. 56789.
1:28:22
Give me Kirby Puckett in the outfield.
1:28:28
Oh wait, we only had 10 picks, that's why.
1:28:32
From Illinois. Awful, awful draft.
1:28:40
Absolutely terrible. To recap and thanks shout out to
1:28:44
everyone who's who's stuck around to recap in in order just
1:28:50
to show you that we're not crazy.
1:28:51
This has been an insane selection of states random state
1:28:55
generator. Again, this was the draft by
1:28:58
birth state random generator in order gave us West Virginia,
1:29:03
North Dakota, Vermont, Pennsylvania, Hawaii, Maine,
1:29:08
Kentucky, Wisconsin, Utah, Illinois outside of
1:29:12
Pennsylvania, not a baseball state on there, but you know
1:29:15
what? We made it work recapping
1:29:18
Nate's, Nate's team here. Chummy Gray on the bump, Carlton
1:29:23
Fisk behind the disk. There's a real, real, real
1:29:28
freaking Wheeler and dealer out there on the bump.
1:29:30
Chummy Gray on the bump. Carlton Fisk behind the dish.
1:29:33
George Brett on the infield, Chris Shelton on the infield,
1:29:36
Colton Wong on the infield, Dan Ogla on the infield.
1:29:39
In the outfield, you got Kirby Puckett, Dalton VAR Show, Darren
1:29:42
Urstadt and his DHS, Mike Piazza for yours truly.
1:29:46
On the bump, you've got the greatest name in all of baseball
1:29:49
history. Cannonball Titcomb on the bump,
1:29:51
number behind a dish you've got. I don't even remember what his
1:29:55
first name was. B Tebbits.
1:29:57
Birdie, tebbits, cannonball and birdie.
1:30:00
Just the battery that you didn't know you needed.
1:30:05
Didn't know I needed that That battery.
1:30:07
Now it's the only thing I want. Cannonball Titcomb on a bump.
1:30:10
Birdie tebbits behind a dish around the around the horn, Pee
1:30:15
Wee Reese, Billy Cook, Bill Mazeroski and Jim Tomy.
1:30:19
In the outfield, Gavin Lux, Shane Victorino, Ken Griffey
1:30:22
Junior and my DH is Travis Hafner.
1:30:25
Your 3 war top three war picks were Brett, George Brett, Darren
1:30:30
Urstadt and Carlton Fisk and mine were Travis Hafner, Pee Wee
1:30:34
Reese and Shane Victorino. Nah.
1:30:38
I got burned. I'm.
1:30:39
Just going to go ahead and circle my name.
1:30:42
I mean, let's see, like maybe the chat feels there's a little
1:30:46
different. There's no seeing anything.
1:30:48
It's game over. I don't see anything about your
1:30:57
name in here. Josh said my baseball field
1:31:00
looks like a piece of piece. I know Josh, I got to draw
1:31:03
better fields next time you. Need to you need to figure out
1:31:07
that penmanship, my man. The pens are I'm I might see if
1:31:11
I can return this the pens like running out.
1:31:13
I bought this tonight, the pens basically running out.
1:31:15
So I you know what? Maybe it's my lucky board
1:31:20
though, because this will be my first dub of the drafts we've
1:31:22
done thus far. So I'm going to, I don't know
1:31:24
where I mean, it's we got to throw it out there.
1:31:26
I'm not seeing either way. I'm going to throw it out there,
1:31:29
but but I mean. I.
1:31:34
Feel like Chummy Grey could have really sent me over but but.
1:31:40
Cannonball tit, Coleman, Birdie, Tebbits.
1:31:43
Shut up. That battery alone, I get the
1:31:46
rest of the field could be blank.
1:31:47
And that battery alone would win me the win me the draft.
1:31:50
All right, That's that's plenty deep.
1:31:52
A little bit of. Give you a little bit of extra
1:31:55
content there to get you through the end of the week.
1:31:57
So enjoy it. Shout out to you guys, shout out
1:32:01
to those who stick around in the chat.
1:32:03
Shout out if you've been listening, shout out if you're
1:32:05
watching. We love all of you guys.
1:32:07
Have a great rest of your week. If anything big happens, we
1:32:11
might try to get to an emergency pod, but otherwise we will catch
1:32:14
you guys early next week. That's all I got.
1:32:18
In the meantime, don't you dare go chasing curveballs we love.
1:32:23
You all and as always, looking forward to talking more baseball
1:32:25
with you guys soon. Until next time, stay filthy.