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ITB: Eagles 2026 Training Camp Primer: Burning Questions On Defense/Special Teams · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Inside the Birds is back. What's going on?
• 0:14
  Speaker 2: Everybody?
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  Speaker 3: It's Jeff Mosher and Adam Kaplan here to finish part
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  Speaker 3: two of our two part podcast. This is our twenty
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  Speaker 3: and twenty six Eagles training camp primer. We're gonna focus
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  Speaker 3: on the storylines, the questions, the things to monitor on defense,
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  Speaker 3: and some special teams for the Eagles.
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  Speaker 1: We did offense on Monday. Defense.
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  Speaker 3: Adam, I think we've said this quite a bit throughout
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  Speaker 3: the off season. Even though they lost some significant pieces,
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  Speaker 3: they gained some they made how he made some good trades.
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  Speaker 3: This is a defense that, especially in the third year,
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  Speaker 3: with so many players already familiar with Vic Fangrio's scheme,
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  Speaker 3: should really comfortably be able to just kind of come
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  Speaker 3: into its own here and really rise. As long as
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  Speaker 3: everybody stays healthy and produces the way they're expected to produce,
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  Speaker 3: this could be an elite defense this year.
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  Speaker 2: Now, as we've talked about in passing over the last
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  Speaker 2: six weeks, there's certainly more questions than you think, and
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  Speaker 2: it's just further development health. We'll get into contractual issue
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  Speaker 2: big one, which we'll get into, and then they've had
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  Speaker 2: a one position that's really bad on paper, we'll see
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  Speaker 2: how it plays out and development of players and development
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  Speaker 2: of backups because depth that's certain positions on defense, it's
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  Speaker 2: just not good enough going in. But these will be
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  Speaker 2: situations that will sort of resolve themselves, not totally, but
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  Speaker 2: a lot through training camp of the preseason. But as
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  Speaker 2: we've seen, Howie will make trades if he's not happy.
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  Speaker 2: Ronald Darby in twenty seventeen, okay, c J Gardan Johnson
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty two home run, home run. He J was
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  Speaker 2: a more of a home run. He was really really good.
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  Speaker 2: The other stuff you deal with with this at whatever
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  Speaker 2: you want to call it, attitude, you know, craziness, whatever,
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  Speaker 2: it is. Terrific player, though there's a reason why he
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  Speaker 2: keeps moving on and on and on and on and on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, where is he not Buffalo again or something.
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  Speaker 2: Buffalo and he's in Chicago Detroit twice Eagle Houston of
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  Speaker 2: the they had enough. They actually cut him. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 2: just it's it's crazy. But we'll see how it plays out.
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  Speaker 2: But they have a little bit more questions as we'll
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  Speaker 2: get into than you think.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. They do. They do.
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  Speaker 3: And of course the position you were referring to that
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  Speaker 3: that has the most questions of safety and and the
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  Speaker 3: depth at it. But when we start up front, really
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  Speaker 3: you go in and the biggest the two biggest things
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  Speaker 3: that jump out to you are one is a health
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  Speaker 3: one is a contract. Obviously Jai Well, you can actually
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  Speaker 3: say contract slash health with Jill and Carter because they
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  Speaker 3: can announce a new contract for him at any moment.
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  Speaker 1: But we're always going to wonder, but are those shoulders repaired?
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  Speaker 3: Like, are those is going to stand the test of
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  Speaker 3: seventeen games, playoffs, you know, deep playoff run because he
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  Speaker 3: didn't have a surgery.
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  Speaker 1: He had issues with them last year, and they go
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  Speaker 1: back to college and.
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  Speaker 3: You wonder how much of an impediment they will be
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  Speaker 3: for him going forward.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's gonna make less than four million, just
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  Speaker 2: over three point seven million, fully guaranteed. That's I can't imagine. Well,
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  Speaker 2: let's put it this way. I'd be stunned if he
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  Speaker 2: plays on that number without it being some sort of
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  Speaker 2: adjustment to make Joe Rosenhausen Jaalen Carter least happy for true,
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  Speaker 2: of course, his agent make them happy for one season.
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  Speaker 2: But here's the problem. He's coming off a down season
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  Speaker 2: shoulder problems, wet. We've been talking about this since he
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  Speaker 2: was drafted. The shoulder problems. We know about this. We're
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  Speaker 2: probably the first ones to talk about it. There's goodcern
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  Speaker 2: for clubs that would be nagging. Not sure in his career,
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  Speaker 2: but it'd be nagging. Right, And here we go. He
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  Speaker 2: had the procedures near the end of last season, wasn't
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  Speaker 2: himself and who knows? I mean, it's as someone of
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  Speaker 2: another team told me, and I've been using this line
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  Speaker 2: a lot and I'm going to still use it. How
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  Speaker 2: in the world do you come up with an extent,
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  Speaker 2: a long term extension for a guy who's coming off
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  Speaker 2: of this type of problem calf of down season. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Dexter Lawrence that out the hard way. He has to
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  Speaker 2: be traded. Why because he came off of a down season.
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  Speaker 2: The Giants were willing to do his deal, but nowhere
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  Speaker 2: near what he wanted he asked out. As much as
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  Speaker 2: they didn't want to do it, they knew they couldn't
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  Speaker 2: get there right. Well, you gotta be careful, like we'll
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  Speaker 2: see what happens here.
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  Speaker 1: I think the turn when scouts are somebody anyone right
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  Speaker 1: could be coached. Whatever.
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  Speaker 3: If someone tells us that a player has a nagging
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  Speaker 3: injury and they're a shoulder injury, right, but they're a
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  Speaker 3: defensive tackle and playing in the NFL right where you're
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  Speaker 3: constantly in collision mode every single snap that you're on
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  Speaker 3: the field. Nagging is more is to me more serious
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  Speaker 3: than if you have a nagging shoulder injury and you're
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  Speaker 3: a wide receiver right where you may not absorb much
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  Speaker 3: contact comparatively detackle.
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  Speaker 1: There's no lightning the load on those shoulders.
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  Speaker 3: So nagging to me is still you know, high alert
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  Speaker 3: because there's just a lot of wear and tear at
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  Speaker 3: that position.
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  Speaker 1: It's physically demanding. There's no letting up.
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  Speaker 3: You can't masquerade arm and shoulder usage as a defensive tackle.
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  Speaker 3: You can't shield yourself away from it, right like you
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  Speaker 3: have to have upper bodies strength of course stranged down.
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  Speaker 3: There's very few, I think injuries you can masquerade when
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  Speaker 3: you're playing that kind of a position.
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  Speaker 1: So nagging is big for that YEP.
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  Speaker 2: Shoulder, pectoral and arm injuries are the most common YEP
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  Speaker 2: for interior defensive linemen. And this it's concerning that he
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  Speaker 2: wanted himself, he was not himself last season. Could he
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  Speaker 2: get to be where he was in twenty four and
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  Speaker 2: twenty three, don't know. So as I was talking to
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  Speaker 2: this personal guy months ago, as I was saying, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: what do you think the Generant Carter contract will look like?
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  Speaker 2: And he goes, well, didn't he have didn't he down
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  Speaker 2: have a good year? Did he have some shoulder problem?
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  Speaker 2: Go yeah, he goes, there's not gonna be comparable contract
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna be able to find. And then I was like, wow,
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  Speaker 2: I never thought of it that way. That's true, it's obvious,
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  Speaker 2: but I never would have thought like that. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you have to try to think like NFL people to
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  Speaker 2: understand why they do what they do right and why
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  Speaker 2: they're not always right. But that that encapsulated the entire
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  Speaker 2: situation how it's gonna be very hard to get a
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  Speaker 2: real extent. We're talking about a long term extension at
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  Speaker 2: thirty three to thirty five million a year. Get up
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  Speaker 2: to Jeffrey Simmons, good luck, right, don't I don't know what.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what Rosenhals would use that that would
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  Speaker 2: placate him and the Eagles be except I just I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. It's it's good me hard, good me hard.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know it reminds me of when, like
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  Speaker 3: Jordan Milota signed his first extension. He had only played
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  Speaker 3: left tackle for that year right and he played at
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  Speaker 3: a pretty high level, so you could tell he was
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  Speaker 3: really becoming a really good left tackle. He hadn't shown
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  Speaker 3: enough to be a top five left tackle, but you
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  Speaker 3: could tell he was gonna be the starting left tackle
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  Speaker 3: as long as he signed that cock track for years
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  Speaker 3: to come.
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  Speaker 1: But he also had two years of a back injury.
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  Speaker 3: That the team had to have in the back of
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  Speaker 3: its mind and the player had to know and understand
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  Speaker 3: as they were negotiating. So the Eagles have been down
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  Speaker 3: the road before they understand what it is. It's just
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  Speaker 3: getting both sides to kind of commonly understand that there's
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  Speaker 3: there's a risk involved here that involves both injury. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: obviously there's been some off the field stuff with Jillen
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  Speaker 3: going back to college, but he's been generally fine as
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  Speaker 3: an NFL player. You know, he did have the spitting thing.
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  Speaker 3: He does have to grow up a little bit more.
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  Speaker 3: I think he had the yelling at the crowd and
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  Speaker 3: saying in the New Orleans thing. So there's little things
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  Speaker 3: that all have to factor into this. But for the
• 7:43
  Speaker 3: purposes of training camp, what you don't want, and what
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  Speaker 3: the Eagles haven't had in a while, maybe since Hassan Reddick,
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  Speaker 3: which wasn't even that big of a deal. Was a
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  Speaker 3: guy not either holding in or not showing up. And
• 7:54
  Speaker 3: then you know, questions for the head coach, questions for
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  Speaker 3: the teammates action element of it all.
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  Speaker 1: You just it could happen if he holds in, if
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  Speaker 1: that's a route that.
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  Speaker 3: He chooses to take it, it'll probably get a few
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  Speaker 3: days worth of coverage and you'll see what it does
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  Speaker 3: to the whole vibe of camp.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's.
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  Speaker 2: It's gonna be it's gonna be fascinating to see what
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  Speaker 2: happens here because it's gonna be hard to find a
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  Speaker 2: common ground with my lotta he had, he had back concerns,
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  Speaker 2: and now Eagles found a common ground. He didn't get
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  Speaker 2: a market deal his first one because they were taking risk.
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  Speaker 2: They absolutely were taking a risk. They were right, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: how he is right m h. And then you know,
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  Speaker 2: got a better deal the second time. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: you're always worried about so on six foot eight, three
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  Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five pounds, it's anster, Yeah, it's and
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  Speaker 2: by the way, he was over four hundred pounds at
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  Speaker 2: one point during the school understand it.
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  Speaker 1: So that's right, it's.
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  Speaker 2: A little different, yeah, in the in the same area,
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  Speaker 2: but that's something will be obviously, that's a number. That's
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  Speaker 2: a number one issue with seeing how it's handled. By
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  Speaker 2: the way, holdens are almost always agreed upon from with
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  Speaker 2: the club, like you okay, but it's generally because you're
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  Speaker 2: trying to negotiate an extension or a new or a
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  Speaker 2: revised contract. H I was there for one many years ago.
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  Speaker 1: It was.
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  Speaker 2: It was the charger safety Derwin James, and he was
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  Speaker 2: working out with the trainer. But what is not practicing
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  Speaker 2: And I remember talking the front office. Oh yeah, we
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  Speaker 2: agreed on this. We're fine with it. We know we're
• 9:27
  Speaker 2: going to get a deal done. It may take all camp,
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  Speaker 2: but we're getting a deal done. And that's you know,
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  Speaker 2: that was it was agreed upon. That was fine. There
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  Speaker 2: was no it was not contentious at all this one.
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  Speaker 2: We've Drew's done a good job for a long time
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  Speaker 2: of not making things contentious where he used to as
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  Speaker 2: you know it. Lito Shepherd, Yeah, yoh, yoh, yeah. I
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  Speaker 2: mean you could go through a lot. But anyway that
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  Speaker 2: that's that to me is number one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely number one.
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  Speaker 3: All right, another big thing we're looking I want to
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  Speaker 3: get into a little bit of conversation about accountability, but
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  Speaker 3: so that it's going to happen here with Greek Wollan
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  Speaker 3: is now an Eagle. People are very excited. His teammates
• 10:04
  Speaker 3: are excited about him. He really showed some elements of
• 10:08
  Speaker 3: his game or the positives and OTAs because he was sticky, got.
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  Speaker 1: His hands on on passes.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the upside for Rik Woollen is tremendous and
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  Speaker 3: that could be one of those things that takes this
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  Speaker 3: Eagles defense from being really good to like elite as
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  Speaker 3: long as he is dead set on being as good
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  Speaker 3: of a player as he's been, if not better. All right,
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  Speaker 3: But at the same time, we talked about his discipline, right,
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  Speaker 3: the fact that he was the leader of the he
• 10:34
  Speaker 3: led the Seahawks and penalty the artich last year, and
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  Speaker 3: a lot of it was.
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  Speaker 1: Was taunting personal fouls.
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  Speaker 3: He came to Philadelphia and his press conference, he said
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  Speaker 3: he understood that was an issue that he had to
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  Speaker 3: work on. Nick Sirianni said, it's something that they're going
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  Speaker 3: to discuss and make sure he's working on But how
• 10:51
  Speaker 3: how do you have a player? How do you work
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  Speaker 3: on that, Adam? And you know, part of me wonders
• 10:56
  Speaker 3: if because we know how Syrianni thinks outside the box, right,
• 10:59
  Speaker 3: he does these basketball games with people who are draft
• 11:02
  Speaker 3: you know, draft prospects. Part of me wonders if he
• 11:05
  Speaker 3: doesn't tell the receivers, you know, try to get under
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  Speaker 3: his skin in practice, see how he reacts.
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  Speaker 1: Like you have to. You have to put him in
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  Speaker 1: the pressure cooker. You can't just.
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  Speaker 3: Say I'm gonna be a different guy or we're gonna
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  Speaker 3: coach him hard and not do anything about it. I'm
• 11:18
  Speaker 3: very curious to see how they resolve this issue that
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  Speaker 3: he's had for not just last year, I think even
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  Speaker 3: the year before.
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  Speaker 1: He was known for doing that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, on your point about the discipline, the Patriots, I
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: remember talking to them. They were absolutely aware of everything
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  Speaker 2: that he'd It's because of the tape. They're looking at
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: the tape. They they have the penalty numbers, they know
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: he plays without discipline, they know what happened before they
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  Speaker 2: played him, played against the Seahawks. So yeah, you're right,
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  Speaker 2: absolutely is a factor.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hm.
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  Speaker 2: And it basically otis or flag football. It's super light.
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  Speaker 2: It's just it's passing camps. Look great, look great. But
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  Speaker 2: now that that's what I've called double A baseball at
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: we're at triple A now now now, now you're actually
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: running your stuff. Now. I don't know if he's even
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: going to play in the preseason, so this is really
• 12:06
  Speaker 2: big for him. And he doesn't have ag Brown to
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: go up against, though he's got He'll see DeVante right
• 12:11
  Speaker 2: if anyone could beat him, and look, he's Joe Banner
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  Speaker 2: would always say this for me. Egal's president. They absolutely
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: loved veteran players who felt came in, felt disrespected or
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: wanted They wanted a multiple year deal, didn't get what
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: they wanted, or maybe they got a multiple year offer
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: but the second year was terrible mm hmm. And they
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  Speaker 2: coming with a chip and this he's make a good coin.
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  Speaker 2: Twelve million fully guaranteed, so he's going to be the
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  Speaker 2: roster even if he's terrible. But the thing is they
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: have nowhere else to go. They are so thin a corner.
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  Speaker 2: Like their last thing they want to do. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: saying it can't happen. They absolutely could happen, but they
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  Speaker 2: don't want to do it. They don't want to move
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: Cooper to gen back to the corner. That's not what
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  Speaker 2: they want to do.
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  Speaker 3: No, they can at this point, right, because that would
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  Speaker 3: really weaken them as safety even further.
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: They would have they're gonna what they're gonna do. Jonathan
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  Speaker 2: Jones would be the first choice. Yeah, at thirty three
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: years old, which he turned to September. We've talked about
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  Speaker 2: many times. Who the hell knows? See what he looks
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  Speaker 2: like in training camp.
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  Speaker 3: Wouldn't you consider Jonathan Jones one of the biggest wild
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  Speaker 3: cards of camp. I mean if he's if he's looks
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  Speaker 3: any bit like a thirty Look how fast.
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  Speaker 1: It went down for for Bradbury, right, Like if at
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  Speaker 1: thirty three is like that, Yeah, it was like a fingerstanding.
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  Speaker 3: If at thirty three Jonathan Jones just doesn't have it,
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  Speaker 3: then they're back to just no answers at that position
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  Speaker 3: as far as hello, right, yeah, Yeah, they rely on
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  Speaker 3: a thirty three year old to have that kind of
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  Speaker 3: like an impact on your team.
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  Speaker 2: Ringo went from no defensive steps of the season two.
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  Speaker 2: He's gonna have to get in the rotation. Yeah, that's
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: how bad it would be if Will and got hurt
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: or his bench. He's probably gonna have to take corner snaps.
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  Speaker 2: They don't want that. I would, you know, we we've
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  Speaker 2: said this. Vic tells you what he thinks of you
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  Speaker 2: at a position. He doesn't play what he doesn't think
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  Speaker 2: you could help them. And he took he took Rinkle
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  Speaker 2: out of the rotation. But yet he's got he knows
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  Speaker 2: the defense right, but they don't. I mean Mac McWilliams.
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  Speaker 2: That's not an answer. Ambry Thomas is not an answer. Though
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  Speaker 2: he's got starting experienced caster field is certainly not an answer.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that's why he's the biggest X factor in
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  Speaker 3: camp to me, Like what is Jonathan Jones at thirty
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  Speaker 3: three years old?
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  Speaker 1: You just need to know.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, and to your point on Vic, remember Vic
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  Speaker 3: has already told told you that Riek Wollen is a
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: full time corner. He is a three down, four down corner,
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: which means because he wasn't that in Seattle, his workload's
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: about to get bigger, which means on the field, in
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: running downs right when he's not the most physical. He's
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: a tall, thin, long legged corner who doesn't necessarily play
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  Speaker 3: the run as well as you'd like run a corner
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  Speaker 3: to well, any player too. I mean he's he's gonna
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: have to be asked to do that. So to your
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: point on injury and the probability of it, well, he's
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: gonna see more snaps now, and those snaps that he's
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: going to see that are more of are going to
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: be running snaps because he was always in on passing downs.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he actually until last year, first year was a
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  Speaker 2: full time corner all three downs. Well, first year, yep,
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  Speaker 2: oh yeah, all right, ninety eight percent of the snaps
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  Speaker 2: twenty three. Now, he did missed a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: time in twenty three, not eighty five percent of snaps,
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  Speaker 2: ninety percent in twenty four. I did miss some time.
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  Speaker 2: And then last year he was bench temporarily so and
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: he played just seventy eight percent of the snaps his
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: special teams. It's interesting the special team's numbers were way
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  Speaker 2: down in steps only thirteen overall thirteen special team snaps
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  Speaker 2: only three percent. So yeah, it's corner.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see how much special team snaps did he play
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  Speaker 1: his rookie year.
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  Speaker 2: A lot one hundred and eighteen he had twenty five
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  Speaker 2: percent a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Well, no, but that's not a big percentage of it.
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  Speaker 2: Though, twenty five percent. I mean he's what over one
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  Speaker 2: hundred snaps?
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, usually your fourth cour Well, he started as a rookie, ye.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: Just starting started every yew that was he was wow
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: good mm hmm, like.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: Typically surprise a sixth round pick, rightith round pick?
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he was a singer by guy. But my god,
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: it was like John Schneider and Pete Carl must have
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: absolutely loved it. I mean, when you find a guy
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: like this, what a value of UTSA? I remember him
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: Texas San Antonio. But then he just regressed and to
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: the point you just why is it? One of our
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: training camp questions, which is obvious, but it's the question
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: is what the hell is he? Is he going to
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: be great? Average? Bad? Nobody knows. You can't base anything
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: of ots. It doesn't mean anything. The only thing that
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: he got out of it is he now sees the
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: way the coach, what the what Vic wants h the
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: cornerbacks coach Roy Anderson. Once Joe Casper oversees the defense
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: of the secondary, you know, it's what they want. But
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: until you get real competition, which is gonna come and training, kid,
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: we're gonna we're just certainly gonna learn a lot. We'll
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: learn way more than we did in O t E. Right.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: I it's hard to reconcile in my head that the Seahawks.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: Won a Super Bowl with him playing a prominent role
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: but also tried to trade him. So yeah, it's it's
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: just a really it's it's an interesting dynamic. Yep, yep,
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: all right, as we say in the second stick in
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: the secondary. I don't know if I this is a
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: concern for me. This is just a curious I think
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: he's gonna be fine. But obviously Cooper de Jean's going
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: to play safety for the first time. I think you
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: saw the OTAs if you watch any videos he was
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: putting on weight, he did look more muscular up top.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: I mean he's ready for that position. Yeah, yeah, he
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: looks like a big dude, strong dude. I should say, yeah.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: But it is different angles, different responsibilities.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: And again the big X factor is are the Eagles
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: going to be more base defense because of what their
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: opponents do this year? Meaning he'll play more safety than
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: he did outside corner, or you know, if the team's
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: really good and gets out the big leads and teams
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: have to pass, he can wind up being in the
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: in the slot just as much as last year, so
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: that that's sort of and then when that happens, who
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: is going to be that other safety?
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Then that becomes a real.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: And Nickel does he ask him to do more things
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: because that's sort of what we call it dynamic Nickel.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: He's just not a slot corner. That's really not He's
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: not been that only since he was drafted. Date if
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: I has to do different things, but how far can
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: they take his learning and talent because he's such a
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: super athlete. Yep, he's so talented. And yeah, there were
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: questions what was his position? Why did he not go
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: in the first round? It's real simple. Nobody knew for
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: sure what his best position would be. That's a problem. Yep, Okay,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: that's a problem. He was a good not great corner.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: He's an elite Nickel. Elite okay mm hm, you know
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: everybody could have unless who the best Nickels are and
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: starts with him and ends with him. There's number one
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: but he but now at safety, I think we share
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: this information. When he was drafted, most teams saw him
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: as a safety long term, yes, and we we believed
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: as we talked about a year ago. Don't be surprised
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: that Victmisom is safety. We didn't know, now, okay, I
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: didn't know that if he was going to do it
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: when he when he leave him Nickel two, I didn't
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: know that. I thought would just be full time safety,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: no more nickel. Nope, he's gonna split it. That's a
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: lot of mental gymnastics.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: So we'll see and then we you may. I don't
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: know if we'll see it because he hasn't he has
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: he did in previous training camps, only be returning punts.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Oh no, not a VIC fan.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: I know. I'm just saying I know because I heard
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: him say that. But I'm just just putting out there.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: We'll we'll keep obviously you'll know on day one. Although
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: warning people, I'm crazy with weather. I have a tour
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: coming up, and you know, I got to know what
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: the weather looks like every day sometimes hour by hour,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: looks like rain on Wednesday and looks like they could
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: be inside, which is the worst.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Yes, no doubt about it. You can't.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Coaches can't do everything that they want right, and it's
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: it's it's like a line dance. It's awful. You know
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: it's hard, man. What were you there? And you've been
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: in in recent years though, have you been inside in
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: their in their practice facility yet still hard as hell?
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, now it's better than when they were at
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: Lehigh and then they would go practice in the basketball
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: That was terrible.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: That was absolutely There are two things that.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Stick out to me during those days that I can't
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: believe like an NFL team would have to do. One
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: is having a training camp practice in the basketball gymnasium.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: The other is when Washington used to practice at an airport.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Remember that, No, no, that the practice on that at
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: airport hangar whenever the I think when the weather was
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: bad or something like that.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: That I mean that would make some sense. But anyway,
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: and also want safe d before we move on. It's
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: just the same. The safety position is so bad overall.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say yet.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, I have a lot of questions, quality of depth,
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: the talent level. Apps is a journeyman, he's in his thirties,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: had an AC injury three years ago.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: He's yeah, I mean, I agree, there's certainly a potential
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: to really be disappointing.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: I would agree.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Macouba's talented. He got hurt talking about the overall quality position.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: He got one guy who's talent who could also play
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: nickel if you need him to in Macoba. Yeah, Apps
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: on the backside of his career, right, Michael Carter was
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: once one of the better nickels the national football he's
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: fallen off. We have to see Andre sam is a
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: for safety. That's that's what he is. Right, We've talked
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: about our guy, Maximus Pulley. He's our he's our, he's
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: our training camp Darling where we're looking forward to seeing
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: if he could be that guy. But it's it's a
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: long shot.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: This guy, this guy, to your point, he is known
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: for being a plant, reading eyes, getting breaks at five
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: in Think about it. Every time he's on the field
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: with a third string he's probably going up against Cole
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: Peyton with the third string offense. So if Cole Peyton,
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: who needs a lot of technical work and developer, wants
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: to try to drive the ball and Maximus can read
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: his eyes and take advantage, I could see him. I
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: could see him creating turnovers left and right and camp well,
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: we'll see.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: We'll see. But overall, it's the quality of the group
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: other than a guy who's coming off injury in Macoba
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: is really questionable. It's it's really not good.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: And you would agree right though that like when you're
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: no matter how talented of an overall team you are.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: I'm not talking about the Eagles, just in the NFL.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: Every team's got one spot that you just can't have,
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: I know, but really great, Yeah.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: You don't want you never.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: Offensive line. Seattle's offensive line is not. They have one
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: of the worst guards in football, the right guard. I
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: can't remember his name right now, but I know he
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: was not good at all. But they won a Super Bowl.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: They have really bad interior offensive line and they won
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: a Super Bowl.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: I remember having this argument with a coach many years
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: ago about, oh, it's okay, you guys aren't great guard
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: and I guess you you know, you always you could
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: cover it up, get away with the goose. Dude, you
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: never go in. You don't you know, you're you're thinking
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: like a fan, or you never want to accept that
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: you can't be good. Now the reality is, yes, you're right,
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: you're probably not gonna good at all twenty two, but
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: you never as a coach, well you know what he's
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: kind of saying. I know, what the limitations are. But
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: I'm not thinking like I can't get this guy to
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: play like a good starter, right, you know, but right
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: safety is a problem. I'll teams take expose it. We'll
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: see we're gonna. This is one where no no position
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: on the Eagles has more questions by far than safety.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: It is just a total question.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Mark, without a doubt.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: And that's why how how now how he said he's
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: still gonna even though you know they have enough guys
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: and they drafted Wiznowski, he said they're still gona add someone.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: He didn't give it the timeline, and I they have
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: to add a veteran. They need to do that before
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: the season starts. But you don't need to do it
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: day one. You could do it day one if you want,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: but you want to what you have first. Right now,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: there's gonna be real competition.
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• 25:04
  Speaker 1: All right, what else? So the edge group, the edge
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: group is uh, looks not to me.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: It's just about what we talk about sometimes it's not
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: about performance, about health. And Grenard is coming off his
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: shoulder surgery and as long as he's fine, he should
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: be good. But you know, we got to see it,
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: got to make sure he's okay.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: So the questions on this position are the development of
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: Smith and Hunt. Sounds like a law firm, but Smith
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: Hunting Grenard, Yeah, Smith, Nolan Smith junior. He just does
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: not being able to put it together for a season.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: This is a big year for him, Yeah, it is.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: This he's actually eligible for a contract extension. And then
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Hunt was just so good last season, particularly in the
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: second half of the season. You're looking for him to
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: take that next step. I mean, I put my money
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: on him starting over Smith. I'd be very surprised if
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Smith started over him.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: But their questions would be very only because Nolan Smith's
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: a really good run to the one content about he's
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: a really good run defender.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: I know, but in your to to take your words
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: into true context, if we're talking about who plays the
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: most snaps, I would agree with you for talking about
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: who's out there on first, first second down, it might
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: be Nolan Smith and then.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't he's yeah, but that makes situational pressure. Sure,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: that's not gonna happen. Hunts actually not bad against the run,
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: but I would agree. I would agree with you where
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: they could split snaps on Bass downs, true and Bass
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: I could see that because Jas got much better against
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: the run. Smith is better. I don't. We talked about it,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: how one of the teams so in the Eagles UH
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: schedule recent years. He basically said, Smith is so good
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: against the run. We look out for offensive linman's knees
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: try to cut him. Yeah, and that's how much how
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: good he is. He's so instinctive with it. But sure.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Go ask Elton Jenkins.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah, right, that's another one. But so that's one.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: And then could j Ex not Jameson, could could you
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Hot Campbell stay healthy because he's had injury prompts throout
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: his football playing career going back to Alabama and there's
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: no turning back there. There is no to Kobe Dean here.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: It's his job. They're not handing there, there's no competition.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: He's the guy, right. He missed a lot of time
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: last season, so let's see what happens a lot of
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: live offseason. He took metal reps. Only where's he at
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: full time job? You know, Vic likes him, don't like him.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: It's a first round pick. How he traded up for him.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: There's a lot there's a lot of pressure on him
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: this season.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Listen just to hear you us talk this through. The
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: one constant that really could.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Threaten this defense if it's not deep enough, is that
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: guys were talking about coming fro An injury or an
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: injury concern. Grenard injury concern coming off the shoulder surgery,
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Jay and Karp talked about the shoulders, Genti hot Camp
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: talk about tens left mm hmm, I think a hamstring
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: and something else. Mccouba did so mc quite a bit.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: That's five guys right there. No, it's Smith junior injury concerns.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: He's we've seen it for the first two or three
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: years of his career.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: So if there's one thing that really threatens the ability
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: of this defense to reach its peak, it said, it's
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: got some guys who have major injury concerns.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Health, You're right, not that Coop come in had some
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: injury concerns, but after after the hamstering injury which he
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: came in with, he's you know, he's stayed healthy. And
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: then finally we talked about it. But just to finish
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: it off, what's the plant if if Woolan or Quitney
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: on Mitchell can't play for a little bit, m are
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: they happy with Jonathan Jones there or just does Vick
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: will tell you what he thinks by what he does. Yeah,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: it's real simple.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Is he he's actually really curious to see who the
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: who the the non first team, like the pecking order
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: of corners, like we know Mitchell and and Wollen. Right,
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: so we'll see that first day of training camp. First team,
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: all right, second team comes on? Is it Ringo and Bennett?
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Is it Jonathan Jones and Ringo? Is it Jones and Bennett?
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Is it Matt McWilliams and Jones.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Well, just wait to see what they make a difference
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: to win. Ringo to be nice Joan, But my god,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: by the end of camp, Ringo is part of the
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: second team. Means Bennett stinks?
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Is what it means?
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Jones can't play anymore? That like that, that would not
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: be good. Right last year training camps, it was Ringo
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: looked like he looked like a guy and I played
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Quaudit corner in like ten years.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: He just right.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: But he's I'll say this about Ringo, He's stayed very healthy.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: He's basically an emergency player. Remember the point you made
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: like five years ago with the offensive line. It's not
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: a good Who is it they're going against Baltimore? Was it?
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Was it?
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Jack has to play right, Yeah, it's not a good thing.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Art This is both too had the great start last season.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Jeff said, uh, like four or five years ago, Brett
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: to If Brett Toath, what is it?
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: If he's what was the story has to play in
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: this game, then the Eagles are in a whole lot
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: of trouble. Raise And I think they were already down
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: the right guard right because I think Jamon Brown started
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: a right guard, so I knew they had no depth
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: at that point. And uh, yeah, this is the dismal
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty season. If I'm not mistaken, then I said, man,
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: if Brett Toath has to play any long extended period
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: of this game, it's going to be bad.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: It's your Yeah, I mean, that's it.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: So yeah, again to finish us off, to sum it up,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: they have more questions than you think. On defense. Yes,
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: I agree, it has a chance to be elite. It
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: could also be very average depending on health and player development.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: There's a little bit of pressure on these coaches to
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: bring this thing to the next level. And that's uh,
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: pretty much what it looks like.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: And Maximus Pulley is going to be our our candidate
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: for ty Kem Darling.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mentioned it when they sign him. He's a
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: guy that we're we we we like he could suck. Yeah,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: that was what Look, guys don't get drafted for a
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: reason doesn't mean the team's right.
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Sometimes he's like the Kit, the tall safety from Toledo
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: never made it. It's not Max and hook. Good call,
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: great name. Bo Yeah, I was told to stuff. Mm
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: hmm okay, well again the pull is a way better athlete,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: more fluid. But again he wasn't drafted, right, so let's
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: be careful.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Yes, I agree, I agree? All right, that is it.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: We have the last two oh specially real quick, real quick.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: This is a huge camp for Jake Elliott. Like he
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: he can't struggle in camp and the Eagles one can't
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: feel good about it. If he's struggling in camps. Alrighty
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: taking the pay cut, there's no competition right now. But
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: if two weeks into camp they're signing a kicker and
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: saying it's a competition, that's when it starts to starting
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: to bite on the fingernails and be like, oh, things
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: are not good.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: You can't convinced me. This is not a huge, huge
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  Speaker 1: camp for Jake ellen It is.
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  Speaker 2: What I do if I'm Jake Gelliant based on what
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: the the readjustment to his contract was. He took a
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: million dollar pay cup. But they fully guaranteed it all
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: I know, I would be the kicker telling you they've
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: lost a little bit of confidence in him, but fully
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: guaranteed that means he's not getting cut.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: You may have to carry him and still carry another kicker.
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  Speaker 2: Don't They fully guaranteed five million was going to make
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: six million in total?
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: I was like, man, on your point, why even forget
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: about that? Why would you not push him? I don't
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: get that now. Again, they were not a technically or
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: not to Wednesday when they were the first practice. So
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: they still can do it. You can still do it
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: in training camp.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Punter's great though Brandon Man was a hell of a
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: fine by Howie. But Jack Elliott has got to get
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: himself together. And this is also on their coaches, Tyler
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Brown in that group they got to Tyler and his
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: group did a great job when they got there in
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  Speaker 2: twenty one of of correcting and fixed and getting Jake
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: realigned man last year, but he what was the number
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: we had fifteen miss field goals of two seasons something
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: He was going to seventy he was his accuracy was
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: down to like seventy six percent. I mean this is
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  Speaker 3: a guy who was at ninety six two years ago.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: That's a huge drop. I mean, seventy one for seven
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: from fifty and beyond I believe last year. I mean,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: just listen.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: If you see a kicker in camp at any time,
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: doesn't mean that guy's going to make the team. But
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: then if he's on the practice squad come week one,
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: week two, then you know, yeah, they.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Are really really concerned.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: And by the way, rookie long snapper, undrafted rookie long.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Snapper rock now yeah, yeah for now Florida. Yep, all right, cool.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: Definitely had to end it on that. That's a big
• 33:45
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