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#308: House of 1000 Corpses (2003) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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Hello, what's your least favorite scary movie?
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Run Rabbit welcome to What's your least favorite scary movie?
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The podcast where we talk about the good, the bad, the ugly and
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the absurd and all of our. Favorite and least favorite
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scary movies Because we believe every horror movie rifle has is
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fanbase. Even if we don't always get it.
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My name is Travis, my name is Jesse, and welcome to November,
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everybody. Yeah, it's no longer Halloween
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time, unfortunately. But but, but we do have the last
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of our Halloween movies to discuss.
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We do, yeah. That's a quick fire review.
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We have several at once because of the way our scheduling, our
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recording schedule got messed up.
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Yeah. So we'll go through these kind
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of rapid fire on the 24th. You picked a familiar Dubra
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Party Massacre 3. Hey, I thought we already talked
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about that one. That's OK, I didn't leave a gap.
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I'll. Talk about it again.
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Hey, yeah, I love that movie. We love that movie.
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It's good. We watched it after Autohands.
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Yes, Autohans. Autohans.
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Then on the 25th we picked Midsummer.
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That was me. Familiar.
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Yeah. Always a classic.
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Oh yeah, on the 26th we went out.
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We saw a new movie together. That was the black phone, too.
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Yeah, it was a fun time. I really enjoyed it.
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I think I liked it better than the first.
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I did not enjoy the first, but I enjoyed the second, so take that
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for whatever you want it to be. On the 27th, Travis picked a new
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one for us, Silent Hill Revelation.
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Yeah, we wanted to finish the story and it left some to be
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desired. Jesse hated it more than I did.
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I thought it was OK I. Just imagine if I was somebody
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that had seen the first Silent Hill in 2006 and I had to wait
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till 2017 for that follow up. I would be furious.
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I was. I only had to wait two weeks and
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I was furious. Just pretty mad.
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Yeah, we got another one coming from the original guy.
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So we're on. We're a little bit optimistic.
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On the 28th I picked a new one for us, The Blackening.
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It's my favorite subgenre of horror, which is friends trapped
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in a single location playing an evil game.
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It's always a good one. Yes, and it was really funny on
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top of it, Yeah. It was a good time.
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On the 29th we had Halloween 4. I mean, obviously, obviously we
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were getting close to the end of the month.
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I had to pull it out eventually. We watch it every year.
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The 30th was Halloween 3 and that was just because we'd I had
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some stuff going on and just needed some familiar comfort
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food. And on the 31st, of course we
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just had a whole host of different movies we watched
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throughout the day. The ones I noted down were Hocus
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Pocus, Scream, Trick or Treat in Halloween.
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That was it, yeah. That's a good time.
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It's a good lineup for Halloween Day right there.
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Yeah, it was fun. The cats were like so drawn in
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by Binks and hocus pocus. They came running when they
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heard him meowing. That makes me happy.
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Yeah, I'm glad. One more announcement is that
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earlier this week on the 4th, I was on a guest episode of Ugg, I
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guess the new podcast by Lex Priscilla Price.
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We'll link that in the show notes, but go ahead.
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Wherever you listen to your podcast, go listen to that.
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We were talking about TV shows, theme songs.
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Yeah, I'm excited because I didn't.
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I wasn't in on that. It was just a just you guest.
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But yeah, that sounds like it's going to be a good time.
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Yeah, it was. It was a really fun recording.
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The show itself is a really good time and Lex is obviously a
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friend of our show. They were on here with JW Crump
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a couple years ago to talk about Halloween resurrection.
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Yeah, that's a great episode. Go check it out.
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God damn it, we didn't do palsy. Listen, it's I I barely know
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what day it is so. We're not even trying to make
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excuses at this point. It just is what it is man.
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Like it, shit happens. It is what it is.
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It's Halloween. It's been really busy, like
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obviously all October long. Our stuff is messed up and I'm
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not even going to try and pretend that it's not going to
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be better in November because I've got a shit ton of Dockers
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appointments that are about to. There's a lot going on with
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everything. This month, yeah.
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So maybe, maybe, maybe we'll have some.
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Maybe we won't. Can't make any promises, but
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what I can promise is we're still going to be covering
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movies like today, yes, which we start November with a bang,
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which is House of 1000 Corpses. We are doing a little theme this
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month. Jesse came up with it.
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It is kind of travel based horror movies that we're going
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to be doing for November. Yeah, yeah, kind of loosely,
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yeah. You know, like I mean this one
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right here, not a lot of traveling going on, but it is
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started from people traveling. They are Rd. tripping a little
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bit, yeah. So that's, you know it.
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Listen, there's only so many Thanksgiving themed horror
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films. So this is how we're staying in
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the spirit of the season. Yeah, we haven't released the
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schedule as of recording, but we'll have that out soon and
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you'll, you'll be the judge. We're still hoping to have time
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to record our announcement for our next franchise, which is why
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the schedule isn't out yet, at least as of the day that we're
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recording. Who knows how things will be by
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the time this episode's released.
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Yeah, I don't know. We don't know, but what we do
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know is that we're going to be talking about House of 1000
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Corpses right now. Yes.
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So it's happening. So we're getting into it.
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House of 1000 Corpses released or premiered, I should say,
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March 13th, 2003 at the Mar del Plata Film Fest with a wide
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release. April 11th, 2003.
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We watched the Honor Blu-ray, and if you want to watch it, as
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of November, you can watch it on HBO, Canopy and Fossum and
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through Hulu and Google and Amazon if you are subscribed to
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HBO from there. OK yeah.
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Renting. You have to do it through Apple,
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Amazon or Fandango. Written and directed by Rob
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Zombie, Music by Scott Humphrey and Rob Zombie.
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Special effects make up by Wayne Toth.
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Starring Aaron Daniels as Denise, Chris Hardwick as Jerry,
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Jennifer Johnson as Mary, Rainn Wilson as Bill, Bill Mosley as
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Otis, Sherry Moon Zombie as baby Karen Black as mother Firefly,
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Sid Haig as Captain Spaulding, Walton Goggins as Steve Nash,
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and Tom Taos as Detective George Waddell.
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Jesse, time to play our favorite game on the show Budget.
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Or bugdead. Oh, this is bugdead, Yeah.
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This is bugdead, but you would be surprised.
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It's $7,000,000. Wow.
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Yeah, not too bad. It had an opening box office of
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3.4 million and a worldwide gross of 16 point. 8 Those are
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decent numbers for a zombie. Yeah, for his very first movie,
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yeah, for sure. You know, he did pretty good.
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It's a six point or it's actually a six even on IMDb
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right now. So not a bad score either.
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Kind of happy for him. Yeah.
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All right, so I have three other movies from 2003 to compare it
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to. The theme I came up with is
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Hitchhikers. Just fuck it all up.
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OK. So starting off, we have Texas
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Chainsaw Massacre. Oh yeah.
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You know, like. We just spent like most of 2025
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talking about this. Yeah, well, this is a Rob Zombie
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movie, so this is kind of like a Texas Chainsaw movie anyways.
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Yeah. But yeah, I mean, obviously you
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know how the movie goes. It starts with the hitchhiker
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and it does not go well from there.
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That released October 17th, 2003 with a 9.5 million budget, 107
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million gross, 6.2 out of 10 IMDb second movie Dead End.
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We haven't watched this, but. Or maybe we have.
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Actually. I think we did a long time ago.
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Yeah. It's like a ghost thing with
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these people driving around and they come across somebody and
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they kind of give them a ride. It's kind of a hitchhiker.
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I'm using some of this a little bit loosely here.
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Like I literally pulled this the last time I had a 2003 movie.
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Did you? Yeah, I think I remember.
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I feel like we never really fully remember what happened in
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the movie, but we know enough that we watched it.
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I know enough to know that you saying we never fully remember
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what happen is actually a really funny way to describe that
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maybe. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's the
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truth. Unfortunately, it came out
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September 26th, 2003. 900,000 budgets Don't have the gross,
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but it's a 6.4 out of 10 on IMDb.
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Final movie House of the Dead. OK, that came out October 10th,
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2312 Million budgets, $13 million gross. 2.1 IMDb.
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Wow. Yeah, I want.
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That's one of the movies I've been telling you I want to show
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you for a long time now, because it is just so notoriously bad.
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It's directed by UU Bowl, I think is his name.
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It's the guy that like, if he, he's challenged many critics
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that have given his movies bad reviews to boxing matches, well,
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that's fun. And he's actually had a few of
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them. Yeah, he gets mad.
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He takes it personally. Just like you and John Carpenter
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someday. It's happening.
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Don't think I forgot, John. All right, so I've got some tag
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lines. The one on the poster.
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The most shocking tale of carnage ever seen.
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OK, yeah, OK. That's a pretty big guarantee.
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You're right there, Rob Zombie. That's, I mean, that's a lot of
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confidence. Yeah, slapped it right there.
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The movie some never wanted you to see.
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That's pretty good actually, because there is like story to
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that right there. Yeah, absolutely.
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There's no turning back. I mean, yeah, in the literal
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sense, that's true, yeah. True horror is back.
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OK, again, those are like big words, big, big words.
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Robert Zomberg. Robert Zomberg, you'll never get
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out alive. I think somebody did, actually.
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She she's going back, but she made it out alive.
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All right, you're technically correct, which we all know is
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the best kind of. Correct.
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God bless this house. I like that one.
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Yeah, I I hear that in Mother Firefly's voice.
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Yeah, dare you enter dot dot dot.
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That's it. OK.
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And finally, life and death are meaningless, and pain is God.
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That feels like the most. That's Otis right there for
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sure. Yeah, that's like one of his
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rantses doing to the cheerleaders.
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Yeah, oh man. OK, so let's do some fun facts.
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So this idea came to Rob Zombie while he was designing a haunted
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house attraction for Universal. Oh, mm.
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Hmm. That's fun.
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Funny thing. Also, Bill Mosley presented the
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award for it. So originally in 1999, Rob
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Zombie and Madonna of all people were originally working together
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to make a movie called The Legend of the 13 Graves, which
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is basically what this movie was.
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It was a bunch of teens travelling, they make it to some
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villains and then boom, it's what it is.
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You know, it's basically this movie, but apparently it must
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have fallen apart. I don't have any details on why
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that was no longer a thing, but Madonna was out of the picture.
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OK, Zombie actually made the pitch up on the spot because he
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just happened to be in the office of head of production at
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Universal, I'm assuming because of this house, and he just
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pitched it on the spot right there.
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He just made everything up. They liked it.
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So he decided to go home and he did a 12 page treatment.
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And then within two months they were already filming.
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Wow. Yeah, it was pretty impressive.
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May 2000 is when it started. They finished by Halloween and
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they they had the attraction which was going to be House of
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1000 Corpses, but they ended up having to change the name of it
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because Universal would go to shelf the film because they were
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afraid that it was going to get an NC 17 rating.
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Well, yeah, that's kind of Fair. Yeah, so they end up changing it
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to American Nightmare, which I guess is Cody Rhodes themed.
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So yeah, Universal shelved it. Zombie eventually would buy the
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rights back and then he shopped it around.
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He almost had to deal with MGM, but it fell apart because Rob
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Zombie stated that they had no morals for releasing it.
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So they got mad at him saying that they're like, fuck it,
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we're not going to do it then Yep.
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So he had to take it again. Eventually he was going to be at
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a point where he was just going to release it on his own.
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But then Lionsgate entered, they had to make some cuts to get an
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R rating and most of it was some stuff with baby.
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But eventually they many, they made it happen.
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They got it to work. The budget started at 3 to 4
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million. It grew to 7 to 14,000,000,
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according to them. They knew they didn't have
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enough funds to make a good ending, is what they said.
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But they figured we'll film as much as we can.
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He's like, I know it's shitty, it's a terrible ending, but I'm
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going to show them that it's not that great and I'm going to need
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a little bit more money. So that's what he did.
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He filmed as much as he could, showed it to them.
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They're like, all right, fuck it, we'll give you some more
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money. So he ended up getting some more
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money to do that. There was originally going to be
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more footage of the teens travelling, but Rob Zombie
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figured nobody cared about him, so he got rid of it.
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And actually it was more of the studio that was wanting them to
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include the teens more. Yeah, he ended up just cutting
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it. They also had a skunk ape
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apparently that was going to be in it, which if you don't know
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what that is like, I didn't. It's apparently another mythical
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creature considered Bigfoot's cousin of some sorts.
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It's like a Yeti type thing in the South of America basically.
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I've never heard of it being somebody from the South.
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Yeah. Where?
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Where is this meant to be set? Where is Rugsville?
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You know, that's a good question.
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Because they all have like real thick accents.
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Yeah, I would imagine Texas, just because that seems like Rob
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Zombie and it feels very Texas. To me, it felt almost a little
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like Louisiana. It could be, yeah.
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This creature is mostly known around Florida, so I guess there
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could be an argument for Florida to be one of them.
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Florida would make a lot of sense, too.
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Yeah. Along with that though, there
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was other cut things like fish boys procedure, which apparently
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there was a lot more to that. And also there was a scene of
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baby masturbating with the skeleton.
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OK. Yeah, that was probably one of
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the things that got cut. Yeah, I'd assume so.
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Yeah. I mean, you just.
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I mean, for the R rating, I should say.
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Yeah. OK.
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Yeah. And originally it was gonna be
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Grandpa Hugo that was gonna be Doctor Satan, but they ended up
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scrapping that idea and it ended up just really reducing that
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character's role in the movie. So he's just kind of around if
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you were ever wondering why he's even there.
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I'm OK with that because I didn't really like Grandpa's
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character anyway. It's kind of I didn't care.
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What are you doing here? I like the Doctor Satan.
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We end up getting a lot better, better than what that would have
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been. And the final bit is they did
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additional scenes after production was wrapped in Rob
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Zombie's basement. This is where we're getting a
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lot of those like transition shots where it just like cuts to
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something completely unrelated like Sherry Moon and Bill
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Mosley, like doing the rants in the basements, basically all
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that stuff that Rob Zombie made himself afterwards.
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OK. So yeah, that's pretty much all
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the stuff I got there. It's pretty interesting little
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read. There's a lot of stuff that went
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on with the making of this, and yeah, there's a lot more out
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there. We watched the special features
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and it was surprisingly not very informative considering all of
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the features that we had on it. The special features was like
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50% sig Bill and Sherry just having.
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It's fucking around. Yeah.
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There's also a video game on there.
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You can play a game where you play as Sheriff Wydell or
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Detective Wydell and like, you are gathering food and pumpkins
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and you're getting chased by zombies.
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It's I gotta like admire the the amount of detail that went into
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this release. This is clearly an early 2000s
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DVD release right here. Yeah, absolutely.
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Yeah, OK, so that's it for the fun Facts.
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Let's get into our discussion. Goodbye, ugly and absurd.
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Jesse, what do you like about this one?
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Well, I did want to go ahead and touch on the fun menu because
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that's something that we talked about a lot.
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And I know this is more in relation to the copy that we
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have and not necessarily the movie just itself, but we talk a
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lot about how much we love a fun menu, an interactive menu
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screen, and I'm glad that we got that with this.
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There's a different one. This is unique to the Blu-ray
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that we have, but I remember the DVD one because I rented it a
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long time ago and it is, it's more like Captain Spaulding
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involved. It is another interactive menu.
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I can't remember exactly what it is though.
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But yeah, they they put love into it.
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OK, I you could tell Rob took a lot of big creative swings with
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it, like he was trying stuff and I appreciate the the amount of
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effort that went into it. I also think the cast is great,
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like everybody is selling the shit out of everything they're
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given to to put on screen. And I think that's just great.
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And even though Rob definitely refines later on his style, this
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still feels very much like classic Rob Zombie.
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Yeah, you could tell. Like he has that sense of style
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that's unique to him. Yes, absolutely.
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And I think that this does a good job of kind of portraying
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that. And there was, there's not a lot
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of story to it, but watching it again last night, there was more
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story than I remembered. So there's at least that.
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Yeah, it's, it's not strong, but it's there.
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Yeah, I it's also just really hard because I love Devil's
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Rejects about 300% more than I love House of 1000 Corpses.
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So it's just really it's hard not to compare the 2.
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Yeah, one. I mean, it's the same series.
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Yeah, it's it's the sequel and I think that is Rob's best movie.
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Yeah, it is. It's a fantastic.
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By and large, yeah. Well, I almost wanted to do that
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movie, but then I wanted to cover these chronologically, so
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I want to get House of 1000 Corpses knocked out for us
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because it's still a good movie, but it really, like Devil's
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Rejects, takes the cake for that entire franchise right there.
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This feels very directorial debut, like he didn't come out
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the gates like just, you know, a savant.
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He has a lot of technical know how being a musician and having
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done, you know, music videos and what not, like he's got some of
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that technical experience. You see the raw goods here.
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It's, it's not yet refined, like I said, but it's there.
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It's all there. And you can definitely see that
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he's got a twisted mind behind everything that knows what it's
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going to be doing so. Yeah, he had a vision.
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Yeah. Yeah, what about you?
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I like the one of the same things.
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The fun characters is one of the things that makes this movie for
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me because there isn't a lot of plot to really keep you around,
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you know, like, if it weren't for the characters, this
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wouldn't be a good movie. Yeah, but Rob Zombie, he did a
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good job with these also. So all the actors that he got
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for this, like, I know that these are Rob's guys, but I
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mean, this is where it started. So like, he may have been
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friends with them previously. But like, Captain Spaulding is
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such an iconic character. Everybody knows who that is at
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this point, even if you don't really know who it is.
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Like they're familiar with the the Wog.
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Like my sister is dressed up as in before, and I don't think
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she's seen this movie. You.
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Know. But I mean, that's like a huge
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thing. He's got a lot of style.
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I love Rob Zombie's movies. I know that he is a very
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divisive figure in horror, but like, for me, it works well.
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I like his dialogue. Like I he, he's one of those
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people that can make like, entertaining dialogue.
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Like two people having a conversation can be
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entertaining. Fun stuff in there like just the
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Uber. Yeah, the Uber thing.
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Store Yeah, stuff like that is real fun.
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Obviously, all of Captain Salting's dialogue.
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And I wonder how much of that is him and how much of that is Sid
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Hague, because I feel like there's a lot of Sid Hague
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coming through right there. And a cool thing that I was
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reading about this that I feel like speaks to it is he let the
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movie dictate the style itself. He didn't want this to be a
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campy movie at first. He wanted it to be like, very
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serious. But he said as he was directing
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it, things were getting bigger and like, you know, more wacky.
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And he's like, you know what? This is what the movie is like.
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This is how it is. I'm going to roll with it.
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Let's let it do its thing. And I think that that was the
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right call. OK, That's it for my my good
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stuff. What about bats?
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Bad I I don't love those little vignettes from his basement.
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Yeah, no, I'm not like a huge fan of it either.
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That's where the whole music video background stuff really
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like this is where he's got the experience from.
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Like if you didn't even know like you'd be like this seems
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like somebody who's done music videos before and maybe not a
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future link. Yeah.
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It just, I mean, yeah, it gives us a little bit about the
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characters. I see the purpose of it.
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I just personally don't like it because it's distracting.
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So is it just the parts where they're in the basement, like
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doing like old monologues, or do you like, what about the like
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snippets of like the cheerleaders and stuff that
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we're seeing throughout? I think when we're cutting to
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the snippets of the cheerleaders, like that's
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happening in real time, you see what Otis is actually up to and
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what Baby's actually up to. That makes sense.
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As opposed to like this weird, like, who were they talking to?
20:59
Yeah, like it makes it almost feel like it's part
21:01
mockumentary, like that one to be movie that we almost did,
21:04
that we decided we. Manson Family.
21:06
Yeah, that we decided we couldn't do just because it was
21:09
such a loose yeah narrative. Yeah, like that's kind of
21:12
teetering on that for me. I think it could have made more
21:15
sense if we had seen them kill somebody with a camcorder.
21:19
Yeah, like there there are ways that could have made it make
21:22
sense. And I get like it's a stylistic
21:24
thing and probably also just trying to make sure that it's
21:26
feature length. But yeah, all together that was
21:29
like what, 5 minutes of footage? We could have cut it and it
21:31
wouldn't have been a big deal. True, it's a pretty short movie,
21:34
but yeah, I don't think it would have like made or break it or
21:36
anything. You got anything else?
21:39
Those are probably the big things.
21:41
OK, for me it's a lot of just random events happening for no
21:46
reason. That's part of it right there.
21:48
But I also feel like a lot of this movie is just like, there's
21:51
no explanation. Like, hey, we're doing this now.
21:53
You know, like when we get to the house, we're getting like
21:55
fucking stage shows, which is. Halloween.
21:58
That's their Halloween tradition.
21:59
Do they just do that for everybody?
22:01
I think so, she said. I understand y'all don't like to
22:06
participate in Halloween traditions, but you're in our
22:08
house. We're gonna make you love it.
22:10
OK, it's a lot of that. And then it's just like, even
22:13
things as Captain Spaulding's like it is that place is
22:16
whatever you want it to be. He could have had anything at
22:18
that fucking gas station. Like it starts off as a gas
22:22
station. It's also a chicken place.
22:24
Then it's also a museum. Then they have a fucking ride
22:27
where he's like, he's also like given story time, who's running
22:31
the gas station when he's doing that because the other guy's
22:33
pushing. I just assume that anybody who
22:37
pulls up for gas can get fucked while they're waiting for him to
22:40
come out. That actually seems kind of
22:42
accurate for his attitude. You're right either way, I'm
22:45
just saying there's a lot of randomness happening with a.
22:48
It's not like it's we like one of the things that we've talked
22:51
about before. It's like A and this happened
22:52
and then this like instead of this because of this and then
22:55
this type thing. And I am just not really a huge
22:59
fan of the ending of this movie. I feel like it kind of goes for
23:02
a little bit and it's just it's, it doesn't keep my interest with
23:06
her just roaming the tunnels down there.
23:08
Yeah, I'm a little bit confused about the people that that are
23:11
down in the tunnels. That's another random thing that
23:13
I'm talking about. It doesn't make any sense.
23:15
It almost reminds me of what the fucking Australian Problem
23:21
movie. The the loved ones.
23:23
Yes. Yeah, that's what I'm.
23:25
Thinking how they have like the lobotomized people in there.
23:27
That's what I was thinking too. I I was thinking they probably
23:29
took inspiration from, I guess Dahmer, right?
23:33
That was the guy that was trying to make zombies.
23:35
Yes, I think so. I could see him taking
23:38
inspiration from like, real serial killers for this.
23:43
Yeah. OK, what about ugly?
23:45
Well, while we're on that, we've talked a little bit about this
23:48
on the show. There is a fine line with true
23:50
crime between like, here's something informative that's
23:54
good to know in terms of like there's still girl historical
23:58
events that have happened, things to be looking out for as
24:01
a human in the world that could potentially be prey to a serial
24:05
killer. Honoring the victims versus
24:10
we're going to glorify these serial killers because we find
24:13
them fascinating and turn a profit off of that.
24:16
And that line I feel like tends to get crossed a lot.
24:19
Yeah, I always like, I think Captain Spaulding is pretty
24:22
upfront with it. It's like I'm not a good person.
24:24
Yeah, like I'm actually a killer myself.
24:27
Yeah. So there's that.
24:29
There's obviously like the everything.
24:32
That's the the everything. Yeah, just just all of it.
24:36
Well, that's actually my Ugly is like, I mean everything about
24:38
Rob Zombie's films, like he basically just shows you the
24:42
like the ugliest parts of humanity.
24:44
Yeah, like the worst things you can think of.
24:46
I mean, that's his style. I like it.
24:49
It's ugly, but you know, I enjoy it.
24:51
OK, very absurd. This is the least of the
24:56
problems here, but babies jeans like what?
24:59
The entire ass out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
25:02
I wonder who who decided that? Was it wrong?
25:05
Like, hey, can you show your butt?
25:07
Or did Sherry be like, hey, can I show my butt?
25:11
You know. We don't need the answer, yeah.
25:15
Yeah, it is what it is, but. I wonder sometimes, man, For me,
25:22
part of it was Captain Spaulding's place just being
25:24
what it is. I've already went over that.
25:26
But also Fish boy. Fish boy is fucking crazy.
25:30
The fact that it's also Rain Wilson.
25:32
It's so weird. Yeah, like this is pretty The
25:34
Office. So like we nobody had any idea
25:37
that this was going to be Dwight at the time.
25:39
But like, it's like in like today, watching it, it's just so
25:44
strange. It's so funny because he looks
25:45
so much like Dwight. Yeah, I know.
25:48
And he kind of acts like him too, still.
25:50
Yeah. Rain, Rain Wilson, kind of.
25:52
I mean, that's just him. But he did well enough to where
25:55
I didn't like I could separate him from the Dwight.
25:58
Absolutely, Which I kind of feel bad for him because I know he
26:02
he's Dwight to everybody now. But like, you know, I was happy
26:05
to actually see him in a movie and be like, hey, man, I'm happy
26:08
that you're not playing the same guy.
26:10
Yeah, no, his character, I think it's definitely different.
26:13
It's just more like the way he looked.
26:15
Yeah, partially the glasses, partially when he gets to the
26:17
Firefly house and he puts on the overalls cuz that's shrewd
26:20
farms, Dwight. I mean, the face whenever, like
26:23
we're seeing the recording of him being tortured and like he's
26:27
like got his like face looking in and he's got like 5 chins.
26:30
Like I mean, that's a classic Dwight look.
26:34
OK. What do you rate this?
26:36
I'm gonna give it a 6 1/2. OK, I'm giving A7.
26:39
OK, yeah, this is a solid movie. I like it a lot.
26:42
All right, it's a 6.75 starting average.
26:44
They're close to the pulse of IMDb.
26:47
Close, but pretty usual, a little bit over.
26:50
OK. All right, let's get into it.
26:52
We started off with the commercial for Doctor
26:54
Wolfenstein's creature feature show, and then we get an ad for
26:57
Captus Balding's Museum of Monsters and Madmen and Chicken
27:01
and Gas. And chicken.
27:03
Yeah, and gas. There's just so many things I'm
27:06
telling. You it's a one stop.
27:07
Shop it. Really is, Yeah.
27:08
It's like it was Bucky's before Bucky's.
27:11
You know what? Yeah, it's.
27:12
Yeah. It's what Bucky's is afraid to
27:15
be. I.
27:15
Guarantee you the person that made Bucky's watched House of
27:17
1000 Corpses like I fucking got it.
27:20
We will have roast beef and jerky and T-shirts and popcorn
27:25
and also gas but no trucks. No trucks, so we now see them
27:32
well outside Captain Spaulding's place.
27:35
We see some people are just kind of like camping out outside.
27:39
When we're inside, we see the camp counselor from Sleep away
27:42
Camp three. You know, the really horny old
27:45
dude. And he is still playing a horny
27:46
old dude, but he's a horny old dude on a mission because he's
27:50
got this signed photo and he wanted to resell it but he can't
27:53
because it was personalized with his name.
27:54
Fun fact, you will see it some cons that some artists, some
27:59
celebrities will not sign just their name.
28:02
They will always do it with name or if they do it without name
28:05
they will charge a premium for it and it's because of this.
28:08
Yeah, which I'm happy with because I want my stuff for me.
28:11
I'm not buying this shit to resell.
28:13
Yeah, I got the spike right in front of me, says to Jesse.
28:17
Right next to Cordelia. Yeah, right next to Cordelia,
28:19
also to Jesse. Yeah, like those are for me.
28:22
Yeah, so we see he's going to the bathroom.
28:26
When he goes to the bathroom, the two robbers just bust in and
28:30
they hold him up at gunpoint. And you know what?
28:32
Captain Spalding is not the one. He is not.
28:35
Yeah, he will not step down. He's actually just pointing a
28:38
chicken at them instead. Yeah, he's giving them a lot of
28:44
back sass. And the one that's got the gun
28:47
on him is not taken, is not taken kindly to it.
28:50
The one that's got the gun on the camp owner, he's upset
28:55
because he's. He remembers it.
28:57
He's like an. Olympic.
28:59
Brick or something like that. Yeah, something like that, yeah.
29:02
Just like sings just like Jingle about him.
29:04
Yeah, apparently that he works at the hardware store.
29:08
That he knows, everybody knows that he's Rick's got Dick
29:10
issues. Yeah, so he gets really upset
29:14
about that, whizzes his composure, drops his mask.
29:17
And when this happens, I don't know who the fuck this guy is,
29:20
but he comes in, he works with Captain Spaulding, He's got like
29:23
a big head on and he just like attacks, ambushes, they get the
29:27
upper hand, they kill the people.
29:28
Yep, it is what it is. It is what it is.
29:31
We got two kids in a car. Jerry won't drive because he
29:35
says he can't drive this late at night.
29:37
He's got night vision. It's just a bad issue.
29:41
And Bill's like, well, you could have at least filled the tank up
29:45
with gas. He's like, I put 2 to $3.00 in
29:47
there. Look, there's a gas station
29:49
right there. I guess we should also say this
29:51
is October 30th, 1977, so $2.00 of gas is different than
29:56
today's. I'm glad that you wrote that
29:59
down because I missed that. And I was like, oh, that's not a
30:02
lot of gas. That's to know.
30:04
Yeah, it it puts some things in the context here.
30:06
They stop at Captain Spaulding Zone because they see the sign
30:09
when they're driving down there and they also see that it's a
30:11
roadside attraction, which these people are working on a little
30:15
book for roadside attraction. So what are?
30:17
You writing a book about roadside attraction?
30:19
So Bill is asking Captain Spaulding how long he's had it.
30:21
He's like, well, I took over right after the Duke won his
30:25
first Oscar, and so they talk about John Wayne for a minute.
30:29
Bill, of course, prefers sci-fi because Rainn Wilson just is
30:32
right. Sure.
30:33
Yep, yeah. And then Captain Spaulding
30:36
starts taking offense to him writing this book.
30:40
He's good, man. He's asking so many questions.
30:42
Yeah, and he's like, I'm just fucking with you.
30:46
Dude, I would be intimidated by you.
30:48
I would. See my pants?
30:49
Yeah, he is a he's a scary person.
30:51
Yes. But they also see that there is
30:55
a murder tour and it's a. Murder Ride.
30:58
Yeah, this gets Jerry super fucking excited, so he goes to
31:01
wake up the two girlfriends out in the car.
31:04
Yeah, Mary and Denise. So they're getting in a little
31:07
cart that is going to be pushed by the same person who helps
31:11
kill the robbers. That's.
31:12
A big head. I don't know what his name is.
31:14
It's basically an oral history on notorious serial murderers.
31:19
We've got Albert, Fish, Egg Gain and S Quentin, otherwise known
31:23
as Doctor Satan. Albert Fish is probably one of
31:26
the most fucked up ones ever. Yeah, like just, it's
31:30
disgusting, like reading his shit.
31:32
Yes, all of, and this is, you know kind of what I'm talking
31:34
about, like it's stuff like that turning a profit off is like.
31:38
That. Yeah, some.
31:40
Of the most heinous shit ever, yeah.
31:42
And then that, yeah, yeah. It's really upsetting.
31:46
But Jerry comes out of that energized, and he wants to know
31:49
more about Doctor Satan because supposedly he was hanged in a
31:53
bout of vigilante justice, and the hanging tree is not far from
31:58
where they're at, and he pesters Captain Spaulding into giving
32:01
him directions to it. Yeah, while all that's
32:04
happening, Denise goes out to the phone booth and gives her
32:07
dad a call. I guess they're driving to his
32:08
place too, and he's expecting them.
32:11
So she's like, hey, we're going to be a little bit late.
32:12
We're going to make this a little detour, but we'll be
32:14
there. So he knows.
32:16
He knows that where they are. We do cut to hear some news that
32:20
five cheerleaders went missing from Riggsville.
32:24
Riggsville. I kept switching back and forth
32:27
between Riggsville and Riggsville in my notes, but
32:30
they're they've been missing since a football game four days
32:33
ago. Yeah, so they're driving.
32:35
They come across a hit tracker. It's a little baby Firefly, and
32:39
they pick her up and she's like, hey, I know exactly where the
32:41
tree is. It's right next to our house.
32:43
I'll show you where it's at. So they're they're driving there
32:47
and the tire gets shot out and Bill says Jerry, and please tell
32:52
me you at least filled the spare.
32:54
And he was like I did. I just jumped it back in the
32:56
truck. What a fucking idiot I.
32:59
I could not be in business with Jerry.
33:01
No, I would not be able to handle this.
33:04
Guy no, I like who tolerates this honestly, it's just.
33:09
Like what does like, what leverage does he have on Bill?
33:12
Is he like just the only person that's motivated enough to write
33:15
this book with him? It What if it's his car?
33:17
It's probably his car. He's the only one that's got a
33:19
car. That's why Bill is extra like
33:21
upset about having to buy so much gas because it's.
33:24
His car, yeah. So, yeah, their baby's like,
33:29
it's OK My brother's got a tow truck.
33:32
He can give you guys a tow back to our place.
33:34
Just. I need somebody to come with me.
33:36
So Bill volunteers. He's going to go with her.
33:38
Yeah, and they get there, and this is red flag #1 because
33:42
there are just baby dolls nailed all over the front porch of this
33:46
house. But Halloween time could be a
33:49
really cool decoration. See.
33:50
It's plausible enough. Maybe if they weren't nailed in.
33:56
That's dedication, OK. It's disturbing is what.
34:00
It is. It is disturbing, I'm not going
34:02
to lie, but it's Halloween time. It's supposed to be disturbing.
34:05
She surprises him, and she says, hey, RJ went on ahead to go tow
34:10
the car back. Come on inside, we'll get you
34:12
warmed up. And they're just making awkward
34:14
small talk in the living room. And she takes his glasses, and
34:18
he's like, I need those to see. And she just sits really close
34:20
to the TV with his glasses on. Yeah.
34:24
I was surprised how long she kept those on for and how long
34:27
he actually allowed it that happened.
34:28
Especially because I have to assume those are bring Wilson's
34:30
actual glasses. I'm sure they are.
34:32
Yeah. So the others are still in the
34:36
car. It's raining now and they are
34:39
surprised by RJ who just instead of saying hi, goes over and
34:42
pounds on the car hood. Yeah, I'm I They're correct to
34:45
be scared in that moment. This man does not.
34:47
He doesn't say a single word. No, he just bangs on shit and
34:50
shoots car tires basically. Yep.
34:53
Yeah, that's his thing. Yeah, and he gets them towed and
34:55
they head back to the house. So the three of them come in,
35:00
Denise is asking to use the phone, but mother says that they
35:02
don't have one. And they're asking how long
35:06
it'll take for RJ to fix their car.
35:08
And they said, well, he went out to go get a wheel.
35:10
He should be back in two to three hours.
35:13
They're very frustrated about this.
35:16
Mother Firefly wants to celebrate Halloween.
35:19
These people are not into celebrating the Halloween.
35:22
I get the discomfort at being in a stranger's house.
35:25
There is just some piece of me that I think was just, it was
35:29
too ingrained to me to be polite.
35:32
I'm like, Oh my God, they're being so rude to these people
35:35
that are helping them with their car.
35:36
I understand that it was a setup.
35:39
Yeah. As a movie viewer, I understand
35:42
that, but I'm also putting myself in their shoes.
35:44
I'm like don't be this fucking rude.
35:46
Especially Denise of all people. Like she's like, oh, it'll be
35:49
like an hour before they can, you know, get your tired.
35:51
She's like, what the fuck is wrong with you?
35:52
I'm like, dude, they're helping you.
35:54
Like they could have just left you guys stranded out there.
35:56
Yeah, like they don't know yet that they're gonna be murdered.
35:59
Yeah, at that point, yes, be as rude as you want, but right now
36:02
they're just kind of eccentric folks.
36:04
They really love Halloween that are fixing your car.
36:06
Exactly. It's also dinner time.
36:10
There's a lot of candles on the table.
36:11
There is a what how that always that always catches your eye,
36:15
like the amount of candles in the scene.
36:18
Because first of all, it represents a real hazard, like
36:22
because those candles, who, who lit them?
36:24
How long have they been lit? How long have they been lit
36:26
unsupervised? Yeah, that's a huge problem.
36:29
Second of all, it looks like they're trying to serve a meal,
36:33
maybe family style. And how do you do that?
36:35
If you've got 37 candles, it's in the middle of this table.
36:40
I think they just like being dangerous with it.
36:42
Like you reach for the mashed potatoes, but you accidentally
36:44
start a house fire. You know, like.
36:46
I don't like that. It's just dinner with risks, you
36:49
know? I don't know.
36:51
That's not, that's not a good risk.
36:52
You know what Smokey the Bear says?
36:54
Only you can prevent forest fires.
36:56
Well, they don't get that Channel.
36:58
They they never saw that ad. Man, no, wait, hold on, I'm
37:02
gonna look it up on Smokey the Bear first premiered.
37:04
Oh, you know what? That actually could be true.
37:06
Like they may. The message may not have gotten
37:08
now yet. The fire's bad.
37:10
First appearance August 9th, 1944.
37:13
Oh, y'all should know better. Yeah.
37:16
Yeah. OK, I can't excuse you guys.
37:18
You guys are fireflies too. Come on.
37:20
Yeah, it's tiny showing up. Which tiny?
37:24
If you were thinking the name means anything.
37:25
It just means it's really, really big.
37:28
His father Earl burned him when he was a child and it caused him
37:34
a lot of damage but most notably burnt his ears and ruined his
37:38
hearing so you can't hear super well.
37:39
I just like how they tell this story like it's like, oh, I got,
37:43
you know, this old thing, you know, like the dad, his dad went
37:47
crazy, wanted to burn the whole house down, started in Tiny's
37:50
room. He got badly burned.
37:52
You know it is what it. Is, yeah.
37:55
She she hands him a message though, and it's to go get
37:58
Grandpa. So he goes to get Grandpa.
38:00
So they're all eating. They have to wear their masks
38:02
for desserts. Denise, again, doesn't want to.
38:06
And grandpa's like she won't let us eat dessert if you don't put
38:08
the mask on. Put the mask on.
38:10
I like his priorities in this moment.
38:12
Yeah. Listen, this man wants to eat
38:15
his dessert, practice his stand up routine.
38:18
That's all great. That's why he can't be Doctor
38:21
Satan. He's got different goals.
38:23
What's going on? Yeah, yeah, he's better as he
38:26
is. But enter Otis with a jar with a
38:29
baby. I don't know what's happening
38:32
here. Where did he get that?
38:33
That's probably a question that you don't want answered
38:35
honestly. I don't think so, because Mama
38:37
Firefox was like, oh, that was a great night.
38:39
She kisses the jar like what the fuck happened?
38:41
Much like how Jerry probably didn't really realize that he
38:44
wanted his questions about Doctor Satan answered and Otis
38:48
is telling him he's like, no that shit that they're selling
38:50
you at Captain's balding. So it's not the truth.
38:54
Yeah, but he like kind of tells the truth, but I don't even know
38:56
how much is actually true at the end of this movie.
38:59
I don't know what all is real. Yeah, and I don't know if we're
39:02
supposed to, but you know what is real?
39:05
The clock is chiming and that means it's Showtime.
39:08
Showtime. They got a stage in their house.
39:11
I guess they got fucking stage. Why, it's even and it is, I
39:15
think, Mama Firefly. No, no, it's the other dude.
39:17
It's Grandpa. He's up there doing his stand
39:19
up. Stand up and then baby does the
39:20
lip sync. Yeah, which she takes it a
39:23
little bit too far for Denise's liking because she sits on
39:26
Bill's lap and tries to, you know, flirt with him, and she
39:29
shoves him off of Bill. And then they're shouting at
39:33
each other and eventually RJ comes in and is like, hey, car's
39:35
done, I. Forgot that's the one thing he
39:37
said. Car's done, yeah?
39:39
They leave and they're trying to drive away.
39:41
Baby jumps on the car, they're freaking out.
39:43
They're like, we got to get going, stop the car.
39:46
And Bill gets out there like what the fuck are you doing?
39:48
He goes, I have to open the gate.
39:50
And you know what? All of these creepy ass
39:52
scarecrows that are around here are actually members of the
39:54
Firefly family. How did they ever have time to
39:57
go set up? Like they got in the car and
39:59
went immediately but over this must have like like ran all the
40:03
way out to there like put on like this outfit and everything.
40:05
Same thing with tiny and tiny does not move fast.
40:08
But they're both wiry. They got you can't runners
40:12
bodies. I guess, well, Tiny does.
40:14
Are you kidding me? He's like, you're that big.
40:16
It's hard. Otis does.
40:17
Otis. Otis and baby.
40:18
Sorry, that's what I was thinking of.
40:20
Yeah, and I like, we've seen another movie.
40:22
So like you do have to open the gate like Texas Chainsaw 3D
40:26
trying to drive through that gate, you're going to ruin your
40:27
car. Doesn't work.
40:28
Yeah, so Bill is attacked and he is dragged away.
40:32
Jerry gets out and he's attacked too.
40:35
Tiny pulls Mary out and then Otis attacks the car with Denise
40:40
inside. Yeah.
40:42
Then it's Halloween. I see RJ towin the destroyed
40:46
car. Don Willis.
40:49
That's Denise's dad. He calls the sheriff and he's
40:51
like, hey, Denise and her friends are supposed to be here
40:54
about 11:00 last night. They called me from this Captain
40:57
Spalding's gas station. And the sheriff's like, I'll
41:00
send some boys out to look around.
41:02
Yeah. It's like it was raining real
41:03
bad last night, probably just due to that.
41:06
Yeah, which the we got Juan Goggins here as one of the cops
41:10
and also George Wydell, who I think funny enough is the guy
41:14
that played Otis in Henry. So I know he didn't get the name
41:19
Otis from that. But like, I think it's just
41:21
funny that we got 2 Otis's in this movie here.
41:24
Yeah, no, we discover in the Devil's Rejects that they're all
41:27
like. Scratch O marks.
41:28
Yeah, yeah. So we cut to Otis.
41:31
He's got. It's Denise.
41:34
It's Denise. She's tied up in the corner with
41:36
a dunce cap. These actresses needed to look
41:39
different. Hey, you want to know something
41:41
funny? And the special features they
41:43
got the names mixed up on there too.
41:45
OK, like I said, Denise and then the the woman was like, so my
41:49
character Mary, he's like, like, they didn't even know
41:52
themselves. So like, don't feel bad if you
41:54
can't tell these two apart. At one point one of them had a
41:57
braid. The braid is gone.
41:59
I don't know who is who. I think it's Denise that lives
42:03
until the end. Yeah, she's the one that gets
42:05
fucked up from seeing her dad's face.
42:07
Yeah, yeah, and that's who we're with here.
42:09
She's got the dunce cap on in Otis's room and he's just
42:12
lecturing her own shit. That's just kind of Otis's deal.
42:15
Man, he is deep in the throes of some delusions of grandeur type
42:22
shit. He also reveals his masterpiece
42:25
because apparently he was having some kind of creative block this
42:27
entire time until he suddenly got inspired.
42:30
And it's fish boy. Yeah, Rainn Wilson, just as like
42:32
a fish. Man, he said Bill was very
42:34
inspirational to him. I mean, whenever I look at Rainn
42:37
Wilson, I think fish too, you know, I think most people would
42:41
say that. I can't say that I would say
42:43
that. All right, that's our poll right
42:44
there. Do you?
42:45
If you look at Rainn Wilson, do you think fish?
42:49
Well, you decide. So we now cut to the cops.
42:53
They're checking in over at Spalding's there.
42:56
He is really not working with them too well.
42:58
They're getting kind of actually the cops are kind of aggressive.
43:01
Dragons. Yeah, he's coming in hot.
43:03
He's full of piss and vinegar. He's trying to do, yeah, the
43:06
good, bad or a good cop? Bad cop here.
43:09
It's like a medal or a condemnation, a condom
43:12
commendation. He wants that, yeah.
43:17
He like he wants something and he's like nobody better slow me
43:22
down from getting these assholes.
43:24
The thing is, Captain Spaulding's actually being
43:26
honest and upfront about everything.
43:27
Like he gave them directions to Doctor Satan's tree because they
43:31
were curious about Doctor Satan's tree.
43:33
Yeah. So I mean, like, I, I like how
43:35
the movie doesn't tell you that Captain Spaulding's a bad guy
43:39
right away, you know? Yeah, I forget that.
43:41
It's like a reveal at the end that he's part of the family.
43:44
And even then it's questionable, like he could have just snuck in
43:47
the back of his car, you know? Yeah.
43:50
So they they know where to go now they're gonna go check shit
43:53
out over there. So we cut to Mary.
43:56
Yeah, she's, she's tied up in Tawny's room.
43:58
And he comes in, he's eating his, he's eating his Agatha
44:02
Krispies. Yeah, You know the cool thing
44:06
about Tiny, I like, you don't get a lot of screen time with
44:09
him in the entire series, but I just like that he is his own,
44:12
like, slasher villain and he's just kind of living his own
44:15
movie. Yeah, He's like completely not
44:17
involved in any of this stuff for the most part.
44:19
He had talked to them, but that's about it.
44:20
Like he comes in and he, he'll, he unties Mary.
44:23
She has to be untied. She's.
44:25
Like, OK, yeah, all you had to do was ask.
44:26
Yeah, can't help the fact that Otis is going to grab her, but.
44:30
Yeah, she was. She was set up for failure
44:32
there. Let's see.
44:35
Throws her into like a It kind of reminds me of the book Cage
44:41
that Oz has his werewolf time. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
44:45
And like, what happens there? Like, people tackle her.
44:47
Are there like zombies in there too?
44:49
It kind of feels like that. It's such a like a glimpse.
44:52
Fine, yeah. Like I don't know what the fuck
44:54
happened there. I mean, relatively fine, but I
44:56
mean, yeah. But she's not dead.
44:59
What you would assume is probably what's going to happen
45:01
here if zombies attack you. Yeah, baby is cutting Jerry's
45:05
hair and then his scalp. Yeah.
45:07
So we're going to cut to the cops.
45:09
Yeah, the cops found the missing car.
45:11
They pop the trunk and there's a dead body in the trunk.
45:16
It felt like they wanted to be found right?
45:18
Like he put it on the open. Absolutely, absolutely.
45:20
This was intentional and the Nash and Wydell are supposed to
45:25
be meeting Don. They find out he's an ex cop so
45:28
that's why he's allowed to come along and they're going to head
45:32
to Deadwood together to talk to the Fireflies.
45:34
Wydell goes around front to talk to Mother Firefly and Nation
45:38
Dawn go around back to see what they can see out there.
45:42
Yeah, but what is this? Like these pigs, they travel and
45:44
pack. So I'm going to go around back.
45:46
You deal with the guy up front and they're around back and they
45:49
hear some screaming in a shed. So they go back there and bust
45:53
open and it's like a little torture chamber.
45:55
And Nage for all of his posture and is really like Wydell.
46:00
He's the one, and that just completely falls apart here.
46:02
Yeah, and because Mother Flyer, Mother Firefly knows what that
46:06
call means, She shoots Waddell, Otis shoots Dan, and then he
46:12
makes Nash get on his knees and we get the longest drone shot of
46:18
all time. I love it man like the first
46:22
time I watched this I thought my disc froze because like it
46:26
pauses on there for so long but. I was like, are we, are we just
46:30
holding on to Walton Goggins for a minute?
46:32
Yeah, What's happening? I love it.
46:35
It's actually really effective. Like the thing one of the things
46:38
that Rob Zombie's good at is he's good at like, music cues.
46:41
So I'm gonna ask you a question, OK, If we can think back to when
46:44
we covered Joyride, Yeah. And I remember the alternate
46:47
ending, which was an alternate Walton Goggins second-half of
46:50
the movie was that Walton Goggins?
46:51
That was the cop that just got completely cut out.
46:53
Same universe. Same universe, same year.
46:56
Same year. This is what happened.
46:58
Like in order for half of 1000 Corpses to exist, his story had
47:03
to be cut out of joyride. Man, they're like, we don't
47:06
like, we can't have that. Yeah.
47:08
Like people are going to associate that movie with this
47:11
movie and I just ain't have. It it's just there's too much.
47:14
There's too much to to pick a part here.
47:16
Yeah, Baby goes to Red Hot Pussy Liquors to get booze for their
47:21
Halloween party. Yes, it's $184.
47:24
That's a lot of liquor. That they're gonna give that,
47:28
and Goober's allowed to keep the change.
47:31
Yeah. I just love that.
47:33
And I'm like how she keeps calling him Goober.
47:35
It very much gives the same feeling as Lynnea Cligley in.
47:42
House or fuck up? Night of the Demons.
47:44
Night of the Demons. Yeah.
47:45
Yeah, I could. Yep, for sure.
47:47
I could see that. The whole you have sour balls.
47:51
Too bad, but you don't get many blowjobs.
47:55
So Otis comes downstairs wearing Dawn's face, and he's chanting.
47:59
Not just that, his whole skin. He's got his chest on too.
48:02
Yeah. He's got the the rest of them
48:04
all dressed as rabbits also. Yeah, well, no, I think Jerry is
48:07
dressed as a Jackass. No, really.
48:10
Yeah. Fitting.
48:10
It looks like an ewer like pajama suit.
48:14
This has got, like, the yarn. OK, yeah.
48:18
So I think that was like metaphorical meant because he
48:20
was a Jackass. He is a Jackass, Yeah.
48:22
Good costume, I think. I mean, he didn't.
48:24
Deserve this he. Didn't deserve to be.
48:26
But he also didn't deserve his friends.
48:28
Yeah. I mean, they, yeah, yeah.
48:31
All right. So they're going to do their
48:33
whole ritual, I guess, is they take the victims out to the
48:37
graveyard and they just like bury them alive in a puddle of a
48:43
puddle of zombies, I guess. Yeah, that's.
48:47
That's the best way I could describe.
48:49
It gist. Yeah.
48:50
That's all you're getting from us on how this movie ends, is
48:53
the gist, because we don't know what it's.
48:55
On I could not explain half this shit.
48:57
I can tell you Mary escapes momentarily.
49:01
This is where we get the run Rabbit run from Bill Mosley here
49:04
and Sherry. Her baby catches up to her and
49:07
stabs her to death so she doesn't make it.
49:09
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's one of ours around here somewhere.
49:13
We've got assigned. Obviously, yeah, we do.
49:17
I don't know where it is. Yeah, it's, it's one of these,
49:21
Yeah, she runs, baby says she wants to chase her this time, so
49:25
Otis lets her and Mary gets scared about the tale of bred
49:33
rabbit. Essentially he.
49:35
Is yeah, the one running right. Yeah, yeah.
49:38
Yeah, and baby is just kind of like, I got to go out in the
49:42
garden and yeah, she stabs. Mary Yeah.
49:45
Meanwhile, Jerry and Denise are in a coffin together and some
49:49
zombies just come out and attack the casket.
49:53
But just Jerry. Just Jerry.
49:55
Yeah, Denise. Is allowed to wander down the
49:57
tunnel. Yeah, I have no fucking idea
50:00
what's happening here. Well, the gist.
50:03
The gist? Denise goes through essentially
50:08
A catacomb and winds up in a cathedral.
50:14
She first she encounters another guy, which we assume was a
50:18
previous victim because he's also dressed as a rabbit or a
50:21
Jackass, and him and another guy just walk over to her, RIP her
50:26
costume off and walk away. Yeah.
50:29
So. So she continues to walk, ends
50:32
up finding this room where people are eating what looked to
50:36
me like cereal. Probably.
50:38
And we get some voice over that reminder of the tale of Doctor
50:43
Satan, and we see Jerry is being experimented on.
50:46
And I think we're meant to take it as this is Doctor Satan.
50:49
That is Doctor Satan, yes, over there, just completely ripping
50:52
him to shreds. And then we get this mercenary
50:56
guy. I have no idea what the fuck it
50:58
is, but he comes out with the big axe and decides to chase
51:02
Denise. And she runs, and he follows
51:05
her. And once again, Bill Mosley is
51:09
in a movie where the climax involves the antagonist cutting
51:14
down their own tunnel support. This guy is not very good at his
51:17
job. He swings and misses, gets the
51:19
door open for her to leave, and then swings and misses enough to
51:23
like hit the the pole and cause the thing to collapse on
51:26
himself, killing himself. He's just, yeah, he was
51:29
terrible. In the morning, Denise comes
51:31
too, because she was not crushed.
51:35
There's an opening created, so she climbs out.
51:37
It's daylight. She walks out to the road and
51:40
Spalding drives by and she just climbs in.
51:42
She's like, I know this guy. Yeah.
51:45
And he's like, good guy, girl. We'll get you some help.
51:48
You know who's in his backseat? Oldest.
51:51
Oldest driftwood. Yep.
51:52
Any steps and then we get out of the end question.
51:58
For some reason, Devil's Rejects is supposed to pick up
52:01
immediately and that continuity does not track, but it's fine
52:04
it's. Fine, because the movie is so
52:06
good, we allow. Yeah, the movie is so good.
52:09
And how 1000 corpses is so gisty that we just we accept it.
52:15
This is basically a dream. At this point like.
52:17
It was a reality, I guess, yeah. Which is weird because if this
52:21
is the dream, why does Otis have the worst hair in this than he
52:24
does in Devils? Yeah, yeah, it doesn't look as
52:29
good. And this one is pretty bad,
52:30
Yeah. He's about the most terrifying
52:32
sideburns or mutton chops. Ever.
52:35
That's like a staple of Rob Zombie movies.
52:37
Like there's somebody with disappointing side chops.
52:40
Lamb chops. Mutton chops.
52:42
Mutton chops? I don't know man.
52:46
I but I literally just said it I thought.
52:49
Lamb chops is like another style, isn't it?
52:52
Lamb chops is a meat, yeah, or so is mutton a puppet.
52:57
OK, well, Mutton's also on me. I don't know about the
52:59
puppetness of. It you don't know mutton.
53:04
All right, What are you writing this?
53:06
I'm keeping S7. I'm keeping it at 6:25.
53:09
Yeah, I mean, I like this movie. It's good.
53:12
It's a good like you can tell it's it's a Rob Zombie movie.
53:17
Yeah, if I have more than a gist to talk about with it, I might
53:21
have more of a rating for it. I, I, I just the ending is kind
53:25
of a wet down for me a little bit like Doctor Satan is cool.
53:28
I like that revealed, but they do nothing with it.
53:30
It's just kind of like a, oh, like like she accidentally
53:34
stumbled into a different movie and say, oh, what are you doing
53:36
here? And then it's just like, I don't
53:38
know what the fuck is happening. Talia, she was sleepy, Sleepy
53:43
girl. She's on a lot of medicines
53:44
right now, so she was sleepy. She was running and barking and
53:49
she likes to chase rabbits. She does, yeah.
53:52
So I think she she was a fan. Let's say a 7/7.
53:56
She Evan. She Evan, who's always Ultimate
53:59
warrior. Oh.
54:01
That's a tough one because I wanted to pay people for her to
54:04
relate to in this movie I'm. Going to say baby because we see
54:10
her tackle and kill Mary and also Zoe is a cat and cats like
54:15
shoving their butt holes in people's faces.
54:17
Oh my God, that's a strong argument.
54:18
I have another argument and it's just, it's tiny because tiny.
54:24
Arguably the most brutal in the house, but he's also the most
54:28
chill and just like fucks around by himself and just eats, eats
54:32
his own food. Zoe is the most chill cat.
54:36
Like she won't lose her shit a lot of times, but she'll like
54:38
let you pick her up and like I can like sit her on like, you
54:42
know, on the couch, like, you know, like a person just like
54:45
watch TV like a person with me. She's like the most easygoing,
54:50
tiniest easygoing. But I think you're right with
54:53
baby. Honestly, I I think that's the
54:55
right call for sure. OK, OK.
54:57
Who did you relate to? Who it's a.
55:01
Tough question. It is a tough question.
55:04
I think I related to Bill. Bill.
55:06
Yeah, just just his Billness. What does that mean?
55:12
I got. AI got some billness to me too.
55:15
What does that mean? What's the billness?
55:19
The essence of Bill to be Bill I Bill, therefore I am.
55:24
OK. What about you?
55:33
Aside from the murdering, I think I would relate to Mother
55:36
Firefly because I love Halloween and you're gonna be in my house.
55:39
You're gonna participate in my Halloween traditions.
55:41
OK, They're not gonna be murder, but we're gonna have some fun
55:45
not. This year, maybe next year,
55:48
yeah, I can see that. OK, OK.
55:51
Dream sequel? Hard to say because the one we
55:54
got pretty awesome. Yeah, yeah.
55:57
But if we were to come up with something different, I would
56:00
like to see more Doctor Satan's stuff, actually, because they
56:02
hit him so much and we get such a small amount of Doctor Satan.
56:06
I feel like having Doctor Satan play a role in the sequel would
56:09
be kind of cool. OK, I don't know necessarily
56:14
what we would have him do. Maybe the fireflies are like a
56:17
product of him after he's done his, like, manipulations, his
56:21
operations or whatever. So there's something like not
56:26
quite right about them. They're kind of genetic freaks
56:28
in a way because of that. So do you want kind of like a
56:30
prequel situation then? Yeah, let's do a prequel for
56:33
that. Yeah, like how they are who they
56:35
are. Maybe let's see the whole
56:36
cheerleader thing. No, it ends with the
56:39
cheerleaders. I.
56:39
Couldn't live without the. Yeah, like, that's just like a
56:41
nod. Like, ha ha.
56:42
This is actually happening right before the movie.
56:46
OK, I can see that. OK, cool.
56:50
New tagline. New tagline.
56:55
You get the gist. Yep, OK, I like that.
56:59
All right, cool, I. Like that, you get the gist and
57:02
then you just listen to all of Rob Zombie's House of 1000
57:05
Corpses the song, and then you're like, that's the gist.
57:08
That is the. Gist What if we just instead of
57:10
releasing this episode at first, we just put that song.
57:14
Man, you know. Copyrights.
57:16
Yeah, yeah. I don't think I'd fly,
57:18
unfortunately. All right.
57:20
Well, I think that means it's time for reviews.
57:23
OK. Yeah.
57:24
All right. What reviews do we have?
57:26
Well let's start off with an IMDb review.
57:29
So I I figured we were both kind of positive on this.
57:33
So I got a one out of 10. OK, this is when it got
57:37
released. So April 15th, 2003 is when this
57:39
review is. This film, written and directed
57:42
by Rob Zombie, has been sitting on the shelf for years while one
57:45
studio after another dropped it and refused to release it.
57:48
Well, Lionsgate finally picked it up and dumped it on our
57:51
unspecting cineplexes and after first feeling it is obvious why
57:55
the film had such a hard time getting a release.
57:57
It is a mess. The entire film is made-up of
58:00
gruesome gore images and sadistic torture scenes cut as
58:03
if it were a hardcore music video.
58:06
I still can't figure out what the plot was and the cast of
58:09
people playing the hapless victims is so anonymous.
58:12
I often couldn't figure out which of the two dingbat
58:14
actresses I was watching getting tortured in this scene or that
58:18
scene. If you want to watch a film for
58:20
gore FX or to see creative new ways to torture someone on
58:24
camera, then this is the film for you.
58:26
If you want to see at least some small semblance of a storyline
58:29
with at least one likable character, then avoid this
58:31
begotten travesty at all costs. A lot of the things that they
58:37
said are things that we also said, but apparently they are
58:40
not deal Breakers for us. No, they are for that person.
58:43
We might be fucked up. Jesse I I like movies like this
58:46
right here, you know, like quiet.
58:49
I like it's nice when it like it's a good one, but it's not
58:54
always necessary for me. Like sometimes I just am cool
58:56
watching shit go down for like an hour and a half, you know.
58:59
And I mean, this movie has like a very loose plot, but like it's
59:02
enough one for me to be invested and everything else.
59:06
Like the characters, they didn't like the characters.
59:08
I loved the characters in this and that was what kept me going
59:11
throughout the entire movie. OK.
59:13
I mean, like, I guess the the protagonists are really like
59:18
that great. Like they don't, they don't
59:20
stand out that much. Rob wasn't trying to write
59:23
endearing protagonists, he was trying to write interesting
59:25
antagonists. Yeah, like his whole focus is on
59:28
them and they still the show, obviously.
59:30
I think, you know, like it makes sense.
59:31
It works. Yeah, right.
59:33
Do we have any listener reviews? We do OK.
59:36
All right, so over on Instagram we have cube saves, who says
59:42
feels like a proof of concept for zombies career not as best,
59:45
but an impressive debut. That is such a good way to
59:48
explain it. That is, that's actually a
59:50
really perfect description of this movie.
59:53
Yeah, it is. And yeah, I mean, I agree.
59:56
Like it. It's a good first go.
59:57
I, you know, I think it's a pretty strong debut for sure.
1:00:02
Over on Blue Sky, we have word Zombie who says it was a pretty
1:00:05
OK remake slash homage to Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
1:00:09
Real standard Rob Zombie stuff. Not a big fan of how the family
1:00:12
became the heroes of the story. OK movie.
1:00:14
If you want a movie that looks like a heavy metal music video,
1:00:18
all that subtracts too. You know, like it's all.
1:00:22
It's very much influenced by Texas Chainsaw Massacre in
1:00:25
style. I mean, yeah, the family, I
1:00:29
wouldn't call them the heroes, but they're definitely the
1:00:31
people that he wants you to root for.
1:00:33
Yeah. Like that's who we're falling
1:00:35
for the most part. And.
1:00:38
Yeah, that's really who we're gonna be following in the next
1:00:40
one. Yeah.
1:00:41
Exactly. Yeah.
1:00:43
And then yeah, that's about it. Not We had a few other comments,
1:00:47
not necessarily like reviews, but like, you know, people
1:00:50
either not liking it or not haven't watched it or loving it,
1:00:55
but you know, like. Listen y'all, we love to read
1:00:57
the reviews on this, but if you're not giving us reasons
1:01:01
why, there's not that for us to talk about.
1:01:03
Yeah, which, you know, it's so cool that you like it.
1:01:05
Yeah, yeah, I like, I like knowing that you like it.
1:01:08
Yeah, absolutely. So don't feel, don't feel bad
1:01:10
commenting. Yeah, just know that we probably
1:01:12
won't. Read that.
1:01:13
Yeah. All right.
1:01:15
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1:01:19
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1:01:22
Because we haven't put together November schedule yet, I'm not
1:01:26
entirely sure which one we're doing next, so.
1:01:28
OK, yeah, we don't. It'll be there.
1:01:31
It might already be there by the time this episode comes out.
1:01:33
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1:01:36
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1:01:38
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It helps us keep on trucking. And if you want to be a patron,
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you can go to our Patreon. We got it.
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LinkedIn, the show notes there, you know, we got episodes,
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stickers, all shout outs, shout outs, all kinds of content,
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voting privileges. Voting privileges, yes, it's all
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there. So yeah, we thank you guys and
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we're looking forward to seeing you guys the rest of this month.
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All right, until next. Time bye.
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Just. Dropped my phone.