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BONUS EP: Pat McAfee joins Blackjack and Chad · The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites the podcast. This is a very
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  Speaker 1: special bonus episode coming out today Thursday. It's me Chad
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  Speaker 1: Milner from the Action Network, my beautiful brother black Jack
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  Speaker 1: Fletcher and and on the phone from America's Heartland, host
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  Speaker 1: of the Pat McAfee show. Two point Oh, Mr Pat McAfee.
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  Speaker 1: What's going on, brother Chad? Thank you so much for
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  Speaker 1: having me, black Jack Fletch can't wait to join you.
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  Speaker 1: And also congratulations on sunny Darren Rovell to the Action Network.
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  Speaker 1: Big things happening over there to honor to join you boys.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you excited black Jack? Uh? Pat, you're having a
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  Speaker 1: massive week. You got your podcast, You've been on ESPN,
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  Speaker 1: you're broadcasting games. How's all this shapen up for you?
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  Speaker 1: How are you feeling about all the game? Just one game? Pat?
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  Speaker 1: How was it having a live mike in front of
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  Speaker 1: you for three hours? It was a wild scene. Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: it was like a dream, you know it was. I
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  Speaker 1: thought when I left the NFL UM I honestly thought
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  Speaker 1: that I could bring a little something to the game
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  Speaker 1: of football, whether it be covering the game, however, I
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  Speaker 1: would do it. Anything like that. And the Sundays if
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  Speaker 1: you watch all My social media has become like a
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  Speaker 1: four the brand Sunday basically where I cover fourth downs
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  Speaker 1: trying to give a little love, you know, s the
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  Speaker 1: d of my fellow peers, punters and kickers. And I
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  Speaker 1: always wanted to call like an actual game with a network.
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  Speaker 1: But I was rejected from the broadcast boot camp twice,
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  Speaker 1: which is what all NFL players get to go to basically,
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  Speaker 1: and that's how all these guys get these jobs. They
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  Speaker 1: get to shake hands with the people at Fox and
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  Speaker 1: ESPN and CBS and NFL network. I was rejected twice
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  Speaker 1: from going to that, so I never knew if it
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  Speaker 1: was gonna happen. And then finally I got the incredible
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  Speaker 1: opportunity through Fox Sports One and I had a last
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  Speaker 1: doing it. I enjoyed it a lot. Shawn Kelly and
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  Speaker 1: a Jhawk tocare me. The Baylor Bears beat the Texas
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  Speaker 1: Tech in the Texas Shootout way in Cliff King's very
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  Speaker 1: last game. It was just a blast. I just had
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  Speaker 1: an absolute blast with it. So hold on, tell me
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more about this boot camp, because this
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  Speaker 1: is this is news to me. Here. Why did they
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  Speaker 1: reject you? You're you're you're a magnetic, electric human being.
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  Speaker 1: Why would they not want you? That means a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Everything you just said made me feel very good deep
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  Speaker 1: down in my loins. I don't know, honestly, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's because my Twitter. I would swear on
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  Speaker 1: my Twitter and I was just I was just stand
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  Speaker 1: up to Median. It was just I have no idea why.
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  Speaker 1: And also I was a punter, right I'm not a quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not. If I was a quarterback right now, I
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  Speaker 1: think I'd probably be calling Monday Night Football if I
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  Speaker 1: had a guest. But I was a punter. So it's
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  Speaker 1: just the way it goes, and I I just kind
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  Speaker 1: of had to fall in line almost in the way
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  Speaker 1: they viewed my position and me as uh. I just
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I got rejected twice though, and it
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  Speaker 1: was I've never been really I never replied for colleges
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  Speaker 1: because I got a scholarship to West Virginia to kick
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  Speaker 1: and that education level very low to get in there,
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  Speaker 1: so I was accepted there. I've never got like two
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  Speaker 1: rejection letters in my life from anything. And then broadcast
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  Speaker 1: boot Camp the NFL, I got two of them. So
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  Speaker 1: it's it's a nearly unprecedented for a punter to come
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  Speaker 1: out of the NFL and develop a media career. How
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  Speaker 1: did you ever think, How did you even think, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this is what I can get into. How does a
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  Speaker 1: punter break out as a personality. I don't know, to
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  Speaker 1: be honest, I have no idea. I think social media
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  Speaker 1: helps out a lot. I think it's it doesn't matter
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  Speaker 1: the position. It's it's not the it's not the arrow,
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  Speaker 1: it's the Native American, you know what I mean. It's
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  Speaker 1: not the position, it's the human, the human behind it.
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  Speaker 1: And um, I was finding a lot of success whenever
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  Speaker 1: I was on the Twitter or on social media. I
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  Speaker 1: got a chance to be on the Bob and Thom's Show,
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  Speaker 1: which was a morning show that syndicated across the country
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  Speaker 1: based out of here in Indianapolis. Have been done for
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  Speaker 1: like thirty years. I sold like ten thousand tickets for
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  Speaker 1: a comedy tour and I think thirty eight seconds. I
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  Speaker 1: was just I was having a lot of success off
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  Speaker 1: the field, but with my foundation and with trying to
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  Speaker 1: make the world laugh a little bit. So I don't
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  Speaker 1: know how it all happened. I just know that it
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  Speaker 1: eventually did happen, and I had enough confidence in myself
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  Speaker 1: that I decided to leave the NFL whenever I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: enjoying it anymore, and I've been having a blast with it.
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  Speaker 1: It could all come crashing down, it could, and maybe
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  Speaker 1: I end up in the Alcoholics Anonymous Football League. Whatever
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  Speaker 1: you're not. You're not an alcoholic. Alcoholics A quitters you.
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  Speaker 1: You and I prefer the same term. I think that's drunk.
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  Speaker 1: I uh, I only do the vitamins now, to be
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  Speaker 1: honest with you, every once in a while, I'll chug
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  Speaker 1: a Bruhi every once in a while, like the good
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  Speaker 1: old days, maybe slam Sym vodka. But I'm all on
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  Speaker 1: the vitamins now. I like the long, I like the vape,
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  Speaker 1: and I like the stuff cones full of vitamins and
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  Speaker 1: just smoke them. Rory to my face on a very
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  Speaker 1: regular pace. Very nice. All right, let's see if we
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  Speaker 1: can break some news on this podcast. Yes or no,
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  Speaker 1: Levian Bell is going to the cults, So it wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: be breaking news on this podcast. It would have been
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  Speaker 1: on my show, like four months ago. I said that
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  Speaker 1: to other people. I have no idea. He does seem
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  Speaker 1: to be very active on all the cold stuff on
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  Speaker 1: social media. He's been doing it since before training camp,
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  Speaker 1: so he's been every post that the NFL would post
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  Speaker 1: on their Instagram, he would comment with like fire or
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  Speaker 1: eyes or something. If it was t Y Hill and
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  Speaker 1: Andrew luck Lin, Terry anything. It was very obvious that
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  Speaker 1: he had his eyes set on the coats since before
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  Speaker 1: this entire missed the entire season drama happened to be honest.
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  Speaker 1: So I think he knows that the cults are a
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  Speaker 1: good situation. There's a hundred and some million dollars in
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  Speaker 1: space in the cap. They got a young quarterball. Oh
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  Speaker 1: not really. I got Andrew luck pe In like the
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  Speaker 1: six year really good quarterback, a good offense like young culture.
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  Speaker 1: I think Glavyon bell Is is calculated and he's been
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  Speaker 1: doing this on purpose. But I as a cult span
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  Speaker 1: now would love to see him in the backfield. I think, uh,
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  Speaker 1: it might be like a one year deal, maybe a
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  Speaker 1: two year deal where they pay him a handsome amount
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  Speaker 1: like Darrell Rivas was treated back in the day, and
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  Speaker 1: just kind of bring him in like a mercenary and
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  Speaker 1: see what he's got, because the rapper doesn't look great
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  Speaker 1: right now. But if he gets back into shape like
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  Speaker 1: he was when he was running back. I think I
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  Speaker 1: could help our team e mentally. Okay, all right, I
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  Speaker 1: have a question, Pat. I want to ask you, because
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  Speaker 1: you obviously spent a long time in the NFL locker rooms,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, as people that sit here, we talk
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  Speaker 1: about gambling all the time. Do the guys in the
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  Speaker 1: locker room pay attention to point spreads? Because you'll hear
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  Speaker 1: people talk about it like this team is a seven
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  Speaker 1: point dog, or you know they're they're only favored by
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  Speaker 1: three against this opponent, and you know that's motivation for them.
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  Speaker 1: Does anyone in the locker room give a shit about
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  Speaker 1: the point spread? Do they know what it is that
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  Speaker 1: they care about it? And I mean this when I
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  Speaker 1: say it. Whenever you get in the NFL, it is
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  Speaker 1: and he it in college too. It is drummed in
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  Speaker 1: your head so hard, pounded there, like don't be the
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  Speaker 1: pete rose, don't gamble on it. It's big and now granted,
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  Speaker 1: now that it's becoming legal nationally, I don't know what's
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  Speaker 1: gonna happen federally. I guess it's becoming legal. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if it will change, but it was really pounded
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  Speaker 1: in our heads, especially I was a kicker in college.
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  Speaker 1: So I mean I had a position where if somebody
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  Speaker 1: really wanted to come funk with me, they had They
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  Speaker 1: had old mafia guys come and speak to us about
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  Speaker 1: how they were cooking games and spreads and stuff. It's
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  Speaker 1: really a scare tactic used and it worked for every
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  Speaker 1: guy I've been around. I mean the NFL, you never
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  Speaker 1: hear a top there. There's so much other stuff to
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  Speaker 1: worry about, the spreads on games or not even talked about.
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  Speaker 1: And to be honest, I didn't even really understand why
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  Speaker 1: people enjoyed gambling whatever I was playing. Oh, all my
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  Speaker 1: friends are degenerates. I grew up around a lot of Italians.
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  Speaker 1: They gamble on games. I didn't really understand, Like, why
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  Speaker 1: are you betting on a game where we don't even
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  Speaker 1: know if we're gonna fucking win, Like we don't even
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  Speaker 1: have a cool who's gonna show up? I have no
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  Speaker 1: idea if I'm gonna have a good game and you're
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  Speaker 1: gambling that I'm going to I think it's stupid, But
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  Speaker 1: then once I retired, boy, I fucking love it. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how anybody wants in the game without I
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  Speaker 1: don't have anybody watching this game without money on anything.
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  Speaker 1: It's the best, the greatest thing on earth. What do
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  Speaker 1: you love about it? It's just you have a horse
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  Speaker 1: in the race, and every single fucking race it's like
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  Speaker 1: I'm watching some no game in the middle of nowhere,
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  Speaker 1: you know, all of a sudden, I'm just pulling really
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  Speaker 1: hard for a quarterback to get hot because we need points, bro,
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  Speaker 1: we need some points with the quickness. It's just it
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  Speaker 1: makes every game interesting. You you have a horse in
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  Speaker 1: the race, and it feels and this sounds crazy, but
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  Speaker 1: when I was a putter in the league, like I
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  Speaker 1: had like I felt like, okay, I have like I'm watching.
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  Speaker 1: I had a front row seat to the Indianapolis Colts
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  Speaker 1: for eight years straight, Super Bowl, the undefeated year until
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  Speaker 1: we decided to lose. I was watching games and it
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  Speaker 1: was like I had a front row seat. I was
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  Speaker 1: the biggest fan of the Cults in history. Now Grant,
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  Speaker 1: every once in a while, I have to go out there,
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  Speaker 1: send the ball to the other team, kind of walk
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  Speaker 1: back off the field, do my But it feels as
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  Speaker 1: if I have like an actual you know, I have
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  Speaker 1: skin in the game. And that's what gambling is. And
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  Speaker 1: I very much understand why everybody loves it. I understand
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  Speaker 1: why it's a huge business and right now, to be honest,
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  Speaker 1: it's my favorite. It's one of my favorite things to do.
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  Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite things to do. That's awesome
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  Speaker 1: that I want to play a little word association with you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say a name and you just tell me
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  Speaker 1: the first thing that comes to mind. Okay, do I
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  Speaker 1: have to say like one word or can it be
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  Speaker 1: whatever pops in your head? Ryan, I think he was
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  Speaker 1: just an unwarranted, arrogant human. That's where I think I
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  Speaker 1: think he he was. He just I think he had
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  Speaker 1: in his head what he had to act like to
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  Speaker 1: be a good GM, and then he just kind of
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  Speaker 1: took it too far. Now do I think he maybe
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  Speaker 1: learned from it? I have no idea. But I did
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  Speaker 1: not enjoy him, and I don't think a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people did. As the GM of the Colts, Bruce Arians,
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  Speaker 1: Oh gee, dog, that guy's the best. That guy is
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  Speaker 1: the absolute best. I I was very lucky to be
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  Speaker 1: there for the year that he finally got to be well.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean it happened because Chuck was battling leukemia.
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  Speaker 1: But Bruce Arians has never given like a head coach,
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  Speaker 1: really opportunity before that. The guy has been touching since
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  Speaker 1: like with Bear Bryant, he was coaching, and that year,
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  Speaker 1: whenever Chuck was battling leukemia, Bruce Arians kind of just
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  Speaker 1: got handed the reins of the team there and watching
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  Speaker 1: him kind of adapt and adjust and find his way
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  Speaker 1: was really cool in a in a very very difficult
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  Speaker 1: circumstance because one of his best friends was going through
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  Speaker 1: leukemia battle too at the same time. I I love
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  Speaker 1: Bruce Arians. I don't think he's great on the mic, though.
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  Speaker 1: I think they need either get him a new booth
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  Speaker 1: to be in or they need to let him just
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  Speaker 1: be wide open a little bit more. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: he's he's enjoying it, but he is one of the
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  Speaker 1: coolest dudes I've ever played for. Bart Scott Louk, Who
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  Speaker 1: the fuck it is? That is the last thing Bart
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  Speaker 1: Scott said to me in person. Uh. And the coach
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  Speaker 1: Jets game at the Indianapolis when I think the Jets
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  Speaker 1: hit a game winning field goal against US and why
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  Speaker 1: old card or playoffs, I almost got my ass met
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  Speaker 1: by Bart Scott and that's Uh. I think he's I
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  Speaker 1: think he was a good leader for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: I just I almost got my ass kicked by him.
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  Speaker 1: Why what what did you do that? Mom? Kick yours
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  Speaker 1: long story chat? I mean there was after a field
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  Speaker 1: goal minitary or an extra point? Is a field goal
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  Speaker 1: or an extra point? Minitary kicks extra point. Bart Scott's
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  Speaker 1: walking act like from he was playing defensive end, I
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  Speaker 1: believe at the time for the field goal block. He's
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  Speaker 1: walking back to his sideline after the field goes goes through,
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  Speaker 1: and he's about to just walk directly through Adam Vinitary
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  Speaker 1: like he's about to hit Adam Vinyitary, and I'm standing
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  Speaker 1: there watching it. So I push him right out of
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  Speaker 1: the way, and obviously that's causes him to turn around
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  Speaker 1: for a second. So he turns around and looks at me,
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  Speaker 1: and there's an altercation there between he and I where
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  Speaker 1: I can't back down because all this is on film,
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  Speaker 1: so we're gonna be watching this in the meeting room
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  Speaker 1: the next day. I kind of did something out of
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  Speaker 1: the ordinary. I pushed him so he wouldn't hit Minitary
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  Speaker 1: because Vinny's a legend, He's All of Famer. We had
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  Speaker 1: a back and forth. Ryan Dean, one of our offensive lineman,
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  Speaker 1: had to be like, what the fun does that have about?
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  Speaker 1: I have no idea. And then literally the following kickoff
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  Speaker 1: there I think it was Antonio Crimarti brings it out
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  Speaker 1: of the end zone all the way down their sideline.
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  Speaker 1: I make a tackle, I spall out on their sideline
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  Speaker 1: and I'm literally laying at the feet of Bart Scott
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  Speaker 1: and it's He's like, well, who the fuck it is?
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  Speaker 1: And I just kind of like, I like on all fours,
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  Speaker 1: I sturry off of their sideline, basically, it felt like,
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  Speaker 1: and get back into the onto the field over to
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  Speaker 1: the sideline. I told video, I'm like, you're never gonna
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  Speaker 1: guess who I layered it in front of on the
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  Speaker 1: other sid I'm gonna shop my pants. I almost have
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  Speaker 1: shipped my pants right now. Vinny almost gonna ask Arts
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  Speaker 1: Carter with there. That is fucking classic. I didn't realize
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  Speaker 1: the second half of that story. That is too funny.
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  Speaker 1: Oh thanks, Jed. I appreciate that. It's just I end
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  Speaker 1: up in uh, I end up been very ridiculous situations, Jed.
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  Speaker 1: I mean we're talking my life is littered with just
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  Speaker 1: ridiculous mention. Now, I think that's now. You mentioned ridiculous
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  Speaker 1: events and and I want to I want to mention
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  Speaker 1: one story that I've heard you tell before. Among the
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  Speaker 1: many things you do, stand up comedy, the Pat McAfee show,
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  Speaker 1: all the stuff you've got going on, you're also part
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  Speaker 1: of w W E, S n x T pre shows.
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  Speaker 1: And I believe, if I'm not mistaken, you've got a
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  Speaker 1: wrestling ring out in your barn, right, Yeah, can you
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  Speaker 1: tell us a story about how you got that ring? Thanks,
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  Speaker 1: fletch Um. I was Chad. You probably don't know anything
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  Speaker 1: about this, and I'm excited for you to really learn
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  Speaker 1: a lot about me here. So I wasn't supposed to
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  Speaker 1: have money, Chad. Okay, I wasn't supposed to be the Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I was not supposed to have money. It was people,
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  Speaker 1: and I think I was probably one of them when
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  Speaker 1: I was growing up or in college, and you hear
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  Speaker 1: about these athletes who just make ridiculous purchases and ship
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  Speaker 1: like that, and you're like, oh, you know, act like
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  Speaker 1: you've been there before. It's hard to act like you've
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: been there before if you've never been there before. If
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  Speaker 1: you look at your bank account and you see like
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  Speaker 1: six figures in there, whatever you and your family have
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  Speaker 1: had like three figures in there for your entire life.
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  Speaker 1: It's really hard not to just be like, yo, I
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  Speaker 1: would like that, that and that and I Apparently one
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  Speaker 1: evening when I was very blacked out, I made a
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  Speaker 1: a childhood and nostalgia purchase because I walked up to
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  Speaker 1: my get my mail one time. It was year I
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  Speaker 1: forget what year in the league. It was early in
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  Speaker 1: my career. I walked out to give my mail, classic,
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  Speaker 1: just wearing a robe, and I had a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of a long driveway because I got a little house
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  Speaker 1: with some land out here in Indiana. And I go
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  Speaker 1: to open the mailbox and an eighteen wheler shows up
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  Speaker 1: out front, and guy pops out of the truck and
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  Speaker 1: he's got like a sweat band on jeans that are
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  Speaker 1: kind of like, uh, what's that called whitewah, but whitewash,
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  Speaker 1: white wash, stone washing like stone washing jeans on like
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  Speaker 1: just classic. And he goes out, where do you want
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  Speaker 1: me to put this thing? Is this question? And I
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  Speaker 1: go like, this is an eighteen wheeler stopped in front
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  Speaker 1: of my house. I live in a residential area. This
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  Speaker 1: is a weird situation. The neighbors have to be looking at,
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  Speaker 1: like what the fox is going on here, So I say,
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  Speaker 1: what is it? He goes a professional wrestling ring. I've
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  Speaker 1: never delivered one to a home before. Only is where
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  Speaker 1: do you want me to put this thing? I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I think you're at the wrong house, buddy, And he
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  Speaker 1: pulls out the receipt for the wrestling ring and it's
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  Speaker 1: his small business. He votes like one wrestling ring every
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  Speaker 1: five months and then he delivers it. It's kind of
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  Speaker 1: his boat, you know, you Pat motherfucking McAfee. And I
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  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, that's me. He said, well, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: know if this order was real or not, but we
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: don't get a lot of orders, so I definitely took
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: your money and made this. Uh where do you want
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: to put? I was like, I guess, just put it
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: in the barn. And I found out that day, um
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: that yeah, I bought a wrestling ring. I guess one
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: latent when I had more clue and just on the internet. Somehow,
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: in the annals of the Internet, I found this guy
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: who's a one man off oration building wrestling rings in
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: Kentucky and he drove that thing four hours to my
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: house and I had no clue. He said the order
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: was like like five months ago. I'm like, how the
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: funk am I supposed to remember this? It was fine?
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: So I have no idea that wrestling ring is still there.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: In my ring, it's provided about minutes of entertainment to
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: me and my friends. It's things like falling on concrete.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: It's a very I think I should have upgraded a
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: little bit. That's on me. I went a little cheap
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: on the ring. So if I come out to Indianapolis,
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: can we sunk around the ring? Yeah? You can, for sure.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: I'm a little bit older. The ring is. It was
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: a bad ring, and I think if I if I
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: had to judge Pat motherfucking McAfee for one thing, it
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: was that he definitely cheaped out on the purchase. I
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: think there could have been an upgrade with a little
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: bit more padding, hopefully, because that thing hurt like hell.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: But you come out to Indie Fletch, you can go
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: off the top rope if you want. You can do
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: whatever that god damn pleases you. What you are getting
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: into rest sling, tell me about what you're doing and wrestling.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know so right now. It's just it's one
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: of those things where I've been a fan forever, you know,
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: I grew up in the attitude there, which was the
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: greatest era of wrestling and history, and I've just followed
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: along with it. I enjoyed the fact that it's a
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: male soap opera with comedy entertainment some action in their
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: drama too. I mean, it's it's everything, and I've just
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: I've been a fan for so long and Triple H
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: and Michael Cole reach out to me to to kind
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: of come do some work on an NXT pre show,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: which is their panel basically, it's their pre show. I
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: did some of that. The conversations have continued to evolve
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: and now we're just kind of seeing where it goes.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: They they've they've created such an incredible business and uh,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to learn from it. Kind of get
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: in there and we'll see what happens. I would like
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: to be the United States Champion, though basically the president
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: at some point US Champion. Amazing. So so now that
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: you're involved with w you a little bit and you're
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: involved in gambling. Now having that insight into the company,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: you're gonna a bet heavy on Wrestling Ania this year.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: They wouldn't tell me anyways. By the way, the w
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: W E is very impressive at keeping things inside. The
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: only things that get out are the things that they
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: want out. It's such a small group of people making
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: all the decisions that anything that it's it's really a
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: family operation there. I mean I man a couple of times,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: but it's legitimately a fiperation. The people making the decisions
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: and all that stuff. It's a tight group in there,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: and it's it's really an impressive model. In two thousand eighteen,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: when everything seems to get leaked, they can figure it
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: all out. So will I gamble on w W E No,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: But I also wouldn't know. I have some follow ups here. First,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: how is Vince McMahon in person? It was, it was
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: it was a very wild, surreal moment, you know, because
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: you see him on the TV and you you you
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: know that this man has created this monster enterprise publicly
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: traded two million subscribers a month pan. That's just the
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: beginning of their business. Just shook my inn incident Hello,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: and then walked away. It was I was like one
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: point five seconds I think it was. I think it
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: was maybe a two second interaction Hello, and then he
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: just walked away, And I was like, oh ship, that
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: just happened he had a great suit on, and then
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: always a great suit. And then this last time he
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: was in the same restaurant as me, and it was
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: another one second interaction a loop. So I I think
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: maybe at some point I'll be able to uh to
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: really chat with the man. I doubt it. You know.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: The really interesting note about Innseentt Man. His neighbor is
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Chad Newman in Grenni's Connecticut. Actually like me, I'm surprised
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: he doesn't. He treats me the same way he treats you.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: But I'm surprised that, like you're a brand name who's
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: coming into to their brand, I'm surprised he wasn't like,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: great to see you. Were so excited. You're a board.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: We think we can do big things together. Like I
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: think there'd be some wining and dining there. So I'm
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Triple H is the guy who's my boss. Triple H
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: my boss because he runs an XT, he runs the
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Orlando Performance Center. I'm pretty sure he's that I directly
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: report to, and he is very nice. There's a guy
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: that people have said I looked like for a long time,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: but a man who I've looked up to forever is
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: now I get to chat with him every time a
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: guy get text messages from him. It's a very interesting thing.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: But he and Michael Cole are the people I directly
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: uh communicate with. I'm not even sure and those I exist.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I think he probably asked one time, who's the guy
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: of the orts? So, so, what do you what do
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: you call Triple as? You call him Triple H Hunter, Paul?
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: What do you what do you call him? Sir? He
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: has nicknames. He has fort or five nicknames, and you
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: just have to keep up with it because they'll be
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: telling a story about him saying something and they'll call
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: him by like trips another name. He has forty five
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: different names. I just you just because he has his
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: all of his w W E names. Then he has
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: his actual his actual name, and then there's other nicknames
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: that have just been garnered through like thirty years now,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: traveling on the road with people. It's he does have
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: forty five different names. I call him Mr Rah That's
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: what I Hey, there's another name. There's another name we
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: should have we should have asked about for your name association.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: This might be the most interesting guy in the cult franchise.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Jim rcy Hey brother. He's the best man. I love
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Jim Rcy, Jim Mercy. And now granted this happens with
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: every particular job. Like the owner of the company is
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: the one giving you the money, so like that guy
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: is affording you or girl that guy or girl, that's
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: very That was terrible at me. I was directly referencing
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Jim Mercy there. That guy was huge in my life. Obviously,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: whenever I got arrested. Um, I think he was one
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: of the reasons why Wolpen cuts. I think whenever my
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: contract was up, Ryan Grigson definitely wanted to get rid
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: of me, and he said, I, no, actively he's not leaving.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: He is just Uh. He's a guy who was a
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: fan of mine and I got a chance to chat
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: with when not a lot of people did. He would
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: come to practices and kind of hang out with the
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: scouting side of things or with his little his little
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: team of people around him. He would come up and
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: talk to me in Vinitary every single time, and I
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: I grew quite a relationship with that man who has
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: lived him and John Mellencamp of wrote a hundred songs.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: They got mccaym just waiting to release one day I uh,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: I feel like with gambling becoming more and more prevalent
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: in the NFL, eventually figuring out what it's gonna do,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Jim Murs will be a guy. And I say, there's
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: only not knowing anything about him other than sort of
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: what I've read is a guy who would be full
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: on proponent of figuring out a way to make gambling
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: in the NFL. So it's I think Jerry Jones is
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: gonna be the guy. He's already invested in Draft kings
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: pretty heavily. I think Jerry Jones is probably the guy
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: he's gonna really push forward hard. But I think I
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: think Jim Mersey's I mean, this guy is like a Rocks.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: You talk to him as if you're talking to like
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: a creative rock star. So like if you would listen
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: to like Tom Petty interviews or anything like that, like
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: that's who you're talking to whenever you're talking to Jim Marcy.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: So I think Jim Rcy will definitely embrace the gambling thing,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: but I think he'll do it in his own way.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be like, uh, the first team
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: out doing something. I think it'll be something where they'll
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: sit back and figure out how to do it. He's
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: he's got a creative mind. The dude is. I'm telling you,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: you have a five minute conversation with him. It's a
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: it's an hour long conversation with him because he's rolling
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: and it's just it is. It's an impressive little mind.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: He's got up there. Now. Patty, you're you're as close
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: to the Colts as as any former player. You were
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: there a couple of weeks ago, dressed up as an
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: old man kicking field goals. It's an awesome video. Um,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: I think the cults right now plus three hundred to
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: win that division this year? Are you taking those odds?
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: The Houston Texans are so good right now. The Houston Texans.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: This is the this is the interesting thing here, Frank Raich.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Early in the season they were one in two. The
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Houston Texans were oh and three. I believe throwaway decision
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: over time fourth in two forty seconds, left own side
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: throwaway decision by Frank Raig. Fuck it, we're not gonna
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: We're not gonna go for a tie. We're gonna go
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: for a winner of loss. They end up losing right there.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: That starts to Houston Texans eight game win streak. That
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: turns around the Colts season as well. Pretty much. They
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: start getting on board with Frank, they start buying in
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: a little bit more. That throwaway decision right there could
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: be something that's big in the end, because I mean
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: it's a collision course with the Texans to see if
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: they can stumble and if the Colts can stay hot.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: I would not take the plus three and right now,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, I like, I will put money on there,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: because like I said, I'm not supposed to have money.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: That seems like a bet I should put us, but
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: I'm not hot. I think in the I think next year,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: I think culture gonna be very good. Darius Leonard is
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: a maniac and it's his nickname, and he actually is
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: on the defense. They got a lot of money to
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: spend with and they've got a young culture, so I
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: think yet next year maybe, but that throwaway decision is
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: gonna be one that we look back upon. I think
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: later in the season is gonna be like this was
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: an interesting This was a very interesting decision because it's
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: spurred the Houston Texans wind streak and it also could
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: have motivated the Poet's locker room to get behind Frank
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: reikmore so, I think that throwaway decisions would be a
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: big deal later settle a settle debate for me and
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: black Jack. So this will be on the podcast. This
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: this podcast coming out Thursday. Then black Jack and I
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: do our favorite podcast on Friday, and we have been
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: debating the Cults as four point favorites on the road
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: at Jacksonville. He loves the Colts. I want to pass.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: We have a million reasons why Jacksonville just seems like
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: there's so much drama happening. There's so much, and drama
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: is never good. I mean, the teams that win seemed
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: to keep everything inside the locker room. That's why I like,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: I think the Steelers are a really good team. I
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: think they're I think they'll never get back to the
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Big One because all the drama that just seems to
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: emulate from Big Ben in that offense drama. It's hard
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: enough to win games in the NFL without any of it,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: especially when there's a lot of emotion too. That defense
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: down there in jackson has got a lot of emotion.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Blake Portals getting bench might lead them to maybe play
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: a little better because I think that Blake Portal is
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: getting a huge contract was kind of uh, maybe a
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: wedge in that team. It might be something that started
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: to drive them apart after them potentially being like a
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: really big team in the a f C. I just
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: I think the cults are so hot right now. It's
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: a division game. I took the money line Montitute twelve.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Uh four and a half seems to be like that's
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: something they could think. Yeah, I mean, to me, the
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Jaguars look like they've quit. I mean they look like
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: they're done. And and yeah, I mean Bortles is bench
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: this week, but it's Cody Kessler man like, it's I'm sorry,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: no way a lock. Actually to me, now that I
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: think about it, the minus four is it four and
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: a half or four four four? That seems like a luck?
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Pat. That's just interesting to me. Do you
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: feel like there's a handicap for emotion, like you know,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: as a player, you look at that and see that
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: that's all I bet on. By the way, I picked
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: the most wild reasons to like. For instance, of both
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: last game, Reggie Wayne was going into the Ring of honor.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: There was no way in fucking hell that t Y
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Hilton wasn't gonna ball out Andrew Muck wasn't gonna ball out.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: There was no way in hell that wasn't gonna happen
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: with all the O G s. That's all I bet on,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: to be honest, And I don't know how because this
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: is the difference everybody because fantasy football, everybody thinks that
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: the NFL is maddened. Everybody thinks there's these these these
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: people aren't humans that they don't give more effort without
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: even knowing it, or give less effort without even knowing
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: it for certain reasons. You look at that Raiders even
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: looks like they've completely fucking quit. Have no idea how
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: anybody could bet on them for the rest of the
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: year because you have no idea who's showing up. They
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: want people literally just quitting and leaving. They don't even
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: want to play there anymore good players. Interesting about the
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Raiders and the Jaguars, that is fucking bullshit. I did
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: not want to bet the Raider. I didn't want to
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: bet the Raiders. I didn't want to bet the Jaguars.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: I just didn't want to bet on the favorites in
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: those games. But here's my much, here's my point. When
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: you're playing in the NFL, and you're saying, you know,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Reggie Wayne is there and all the o g s
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: for the culture there, and they're gonna play great. After
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: the first quarter, you've been hitting each other for fifteen minutes.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Doesn't that sort of extra kick of emotion wear away
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: and you're just playing the game and executing a game plan. No, see,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: I think I think it's all about the week in advance.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Everything is dialed in a little bit more. Not Granted,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I never hit anybody for a quarter, so I mean
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: I never had that moment where I was like, yeah,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: hit but yeah, well no, no I pushed them. It
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: wasn't really, but but it is, Mike Tyson sai. Everybody
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: has a plan until you get punched in the face.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Luckily for me happened. So, but it's the whole week
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: leading up to it. It's just the culture, the environment
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: of the practice, the meetings, everything is like, Yo, the
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: o g s are coming in this weekend. They probably
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: stopped by practice earlier. And those are guys that Andrew
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: luck and t Y Hilton leaned upon earlier in their career.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: They're really tight with them. That just seemed like for me,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: that type of emotion, I don't think you can, you
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: can second guess. And I think that was something I
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: realized too when when I was playing in the league,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: when things were happening either at other stadiums or our stadiums,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: when we tended to do better or worse. I just
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: I feel like I bet on the humans playing more
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: so than the team's playing. And and that's I don't
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: know if it's good or not. I've seemed to win,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if it'll wear off. But
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: I think emotion is a is a huge part of
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: all of it. I agree with you, Pat. I always
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: tell this nerd over here that when I bet, I
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: bet based on feel. That's how I live my life
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: based on feel. Because you could sit here with your spreadsheets,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: you're analyst, tikes all you want, you can crumple them up,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: shove them up your ass. At the end of the day,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: it's people doing people things, and that's how you got
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: a bet. Am I right. That's will tell you what
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: have happened. They won't tell you what will happen. And
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: I think that is unless something is center, I don't
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: want to hear about it because that means it's happened
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: differently in the past, and that's honestly how I filled
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: with the old status thing. I love it, Patty, alright,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: so I'm basically against you both, but that's cool. Hey,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: uh pat magazine Listen, you're killing it, brother. Thank you
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: for coming on the podcast. I know we're gonna be
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: doing a lot more with you in the new year,
• 30:36
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• 30:41
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• 30:46
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