Latest / The Love Drive with Shaun Galanos / Sex therapist debunks bedroom myths: squirting, pegging, monogamy with Claire Perelman
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- 0:00Being in a monogamous relationship does not guarantee
- 0:03anything. It doesn't guarantee longevity.
- 0:06It doesn't guarantee satisfaction.
- 0:08It doesn't guarantee that someone's not going to leave
- 0:10you. Welcome back to the Love Drive
- 0:27podcast. My name is Sean Galinos.
- 0:29I am very excited about two days episode because it is the very
- 0:35first episode that I have recorded with a live guest.
- 0:40I don't have a studio, so we recorded in bed because I've
- 0:46seen other people do this and it was so fun.
- 0:50We have a couple microphones. We set up the computer and we
- 0:54talked about sex, so very fitting that we did it in bed.
- 0:58My guest is none other than Claire Pearlman, certified sex
- 1:04therapist, working, living and playing in the Bay Area.
- 1:10We've known each other like, we're like Internet friends and
- 1:15now we're going to be in person friends.
- 1:17And this episode is very, very, very fun, very playful, very
- 1:22funny, very explicit. This is not one of those that
- 1:26you listen to without headphones.
- 1:28Also, who's listening to a podcast without headphones?
- 1:32OK, we get deep into squirting, consent, anal play, anal, but
- 1:38hygiene, multiple orgasms, Peter Pan syndrome, whether straight
- 1:43women want more casual sex and what makes that unsafe, how to
- 1:47have more sex, more of the sex you actually want, playfulness
- 1:52and sex, blowjobs versus cunnilingus.
- 1:55It is chock full. Claire and I could have done
- 1:58this for hours. She will be back.
- 2:02I'm so pumped for this episode. I think it's really fun.
- 2:04It's really playful. It's very informative.
- 2:07Enjoy. I bring you Claire Pearlman on
- 2:09the Blood Drive podcast. Hey, you want to hear something
- 2:12funny? I was hanging out with my I
- 2:13guess we've started the podcast. I was hanging out with my friend
- 2:17recently. We we were set up by a friend of
- 2:20ours to. Be friends or to be lovers.
- 2:22To be lovers. But we got, we got connected
- 2:26months before I moved to the Bay Area.
- 2:28And so we we got and we got e-mail connected.
- 2:30And so we decided to keep emailing.
- 2:32Oh, it's like you've got me off. For two months.
- 2:35Holy shit. Yeah, it was.
- 2:36And it was cute, like it was every five days or every week.
- 2:39You know you. Know what she looked like?
- 2:40Yeah, I knew what she looked like.
- 2:42Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hottie somatic therapist.
- 2:44Oh, we. Yeah, we, we.
- 2:45Do right your type. Kind of my, you know, actually
- 2:49my type is more like yoga fairy. Really.
- 2:52Yeah. You're not into like a muscle
- 2:54mommy. A muscle mommy?
- 2:56What's that? Like a like a fully yoked out,
- 3:00like lifts weights, like big muscles.
- 3:03Well, she'll. Just throw you around.
- 3:04She's not that. And no, I want to do the
- 3:08throwing around. Hey, yoga fairy.
- 3:09OK. All right.
- 3:10Harvard educated Ivy Ivy League yoga.
- 3:12She is. Oh no, that's that's your.
- 3:14Type that's like my. We're getting very specific.
- 3:16I mean, you know, shoot for the stars.
- 3:18OK, Yeah. Yeah.
- 3:19Anyways, Long story short, we finally got together and it was
- 3:22really sweet. Fun dates, you know?
- 3:24OK, lots of banter, lots of talking.
- 3:28So is love blind? Is Did you answer the question?
- 3:31Is love blind? Yeah, you know, like love is
- 3:33blind. It's always trying to ask the
- 3:34question, can you get to know someone through the wall?
- 3:37Can you get to know someone? Well, this was.
- 3:40This was via e-mail. It was like I was curious about
- 3:43her, but in in person it was the, you know, the everything
- 3:47was sort of there except for the like sexual charge.
- 3:52Piece, yeah. I didn't want to throw her
- 3:55around. I didn't want to throw her in.
- 3:57So did you try kissing anyway? Oh, we did.
- 4:01That hot? I mean, OK, I was also kind of
- 4:04like I had a sinus infection for half of it, so not hot.
- 4:09OK, all right, that'll, that'll take the hotness.
- 4:11Off but even after that like we did make out and the kisses were
- 4:15good but but it didn't really stir up.
- 4:19Kisses didn't make you want to have more kisses.
- 4:22No, it didn't make me want to take her clothes off.
- 4:24And then I then I, you know, I said, hey, I think we should
- 4:27talk about this because she was like, do you want to make out?
- 4:30And I said, actually, we should talk.
- 4:32Yeah, OK. And I shared all this
- 4:33information with her and then she shared basically the same
- 4:36sentiment. OK, I mean, often people feel
- 4:38the same way. You think so?
- 4:40Yes, well, I think when you're lucky, people feel the same way.
- 4:44Yeah. And then sometimes they don't
- 4:46feel the same way. And that's when you have
- 4:48heartbreak or disappointment or. Right.
- 4:50But I think if the charge isn't there like.
- 4:53It's there. It's not.
- 4:54People know it. It's not there for both.
- 4:56Yeah, like, or at least like even if the charge, like let's
- 4:59say you and I made out, if the charge was there for me but not
- 5:01for you, I would know that it wasn't there for you, right?
- 5:04Like I would pick up on that probably.
- 5:06And so I care for, right? But like, so therefore if the
- 5:10charge, even if it's one sided, it's like less exciting because
- 5:14why would I want to make out with someone who's like not
- 5:16excited about making out with me?
- 5:18Well, unless unless you're a man and you don't care about the
- 5:21woman's pleasure and or desire. Or your own like attunement to
- 5:26someone then yes but. We have a lot to talk about.
- 5:30Yes, we. Do but the OK, we're just
- 5:32finishing the story here at some point.
- 5:35So now we're friends. I I go, I think I think I wonder
- 5:37if we're just supposed to be friends who like I I would love
- 5:39to be friends with you. Like we we have a lot in common.
- 5:42And so we've been hanging out as friends and it's been really,
- 5:45really sweet and she can tell me about her guy and I can tell her
- 5:48about my gal. But then I think the question of
- 5:51kids came up, you know, and I go Beth am IA, Peter Pan.
- 5:58You're 43 and you don't know. I don't know.
- 6:01Yeah, yeah. And she goes a little bit, I
- 6:03think you're a little bit, a little little bit of a Peter Pan
- 6:07and I don't know, I don't know how true that is.
- 6:09I think I've experienced a lot of loss recently which it has
- 6:13made me not interested in partnership up and say quite
- 6:17recently. It's actually very interesting
- 6:19that the loss has made you not interested in partnership.
- 6:21It hasn't made you want to seek partnership and comfort and like
- 6:24a creation of something new in the kind of ashes of.
- 6:28Yes, the the Phoenix. Rising.
- 6:30Yeah, the Phoenix Rising love story.
- 6:32Not, I mean, I think I also struggle relationally in a lot
- 6:36of different ways based on my upbringing where like for me,
- 6:40partnership is hard, but I've had it, you know, I've had
- 6:43relationships that have been like 2 years, four years and
- 6:46I've enjoyed those relationships and I don't have a problem.
- 6:50I don't think I'm, I have a fear of commitment or a fear of
- 6:53intimacy. It's just that it's hard for me
- 6:56to stay in partnership sometimes.
- 6:58Well, they can't all be Harvard educated yoga fairies, you know.
- 7:03I mean, that's that. Don't get you to stay.
- 7:05That does sound kind of Peter Pan ish cause was Peter Pan
- 7:09What? What is?
- 7:10How is sticker about? Doesn't want to grow up, he just
- 7:13wants to stay in his like playing phase.
- 7:15It Neverland. It Neverland.
- 7:17Yeah, yeah, that sounds fun. It does sound fun.
- 7:21I think that the ultimate love story, the ultimate
- 7:24relationship, is to get to stay in your playing face with each
- 7:29other. With each other, each other,
- 7:30that's. What I'm trying to do with all
- 7:31my partners is just play 24/7. That's how great.
- 7:36Yeah, I honestly, I fully believe that sex is an adult
- 7:39playground as well and that we're all under utilizing that
- 7:43because there's so much shit that comes up around sex, right?
- 7:47But I think that if we were all able to access play and sex and
- 7:51access play just over all in our lives, we would all be a lot
- 7:55better off. We could be in Neverland.
- 7:58We could always be in Neverland. And you can have families and
- 8:01commitments and partnership in Neverland, yeah.
- 8:04Whimsy, baby. Yeah, there's a new thing online
- 8:06like Whimsy Maxing. I feel like that's what I've
- 8:09been doing with my whole life anyway.
- 8:11Y'all need more whimsy? Y'all need?
- 8:13More whimsy. You got to be more whimsical.
- 8:16Hey, real quick, yes. Can you introduce yourself?
- 8:19Yes I can. Hi everyone, I'm Claire
- 8:22Pearlman. I am a certified sex therapist
- 8:25living and working and playing in the Bay Area.
- 8:28I am sex clarified at sex clarified on all platforms,
- 8:32spelled normally with AD at the end and I'm just obsessed with
- 8:36relationships of all kinds. It's spelled clarified with AD.
- 8:40Clarified. Yeah, not like my name, which
- 8:43has an I in it, right? Yeah.
- 8:45Sex clarified. Got it.
- 8:46But good, good. Like word play.
- 8:48Thank you thank you I pulled all my friends before I started the
- 8:51account and said what should my account be called and I wanted
- 8:55to include my name and also sex and someone came up with sex
- 8:58clarified so shout out to my friends.
- 9:01To who specifically? Seoul, Seoul came up with it.
- 9:05Good job. How did we get connected?
- 9:08We got connected because I tried to slide into your DM's a couple
- 9:11times and I was like, we can either hook up or we can collab.
- 9:15And I was like excited for for. Either option.
- 9:19And so we ended up collabing. So here we.
- 9:21Are but did I left you on roll? Wish you your shot ladies.
- 9:25You could you shoot your shot, you could end up in my bed.
- 9:28Yes, I I got into your bed. Either way, that's that was the
- 9:31goal. And I have to say it very few
- 9:35people end up in my bed. Oh.
- 9:38Wow, I feel very special. Thank you so much.
- 9:39Contrary to popular belief. Oh, I think we should talk about
- 9:42that. Talk about what?
- 9:44We should talk about does body count matter?
- 9:46One. And two, we should talk about
- 9:48why very few people end up in your bed.
- 9:50OK, so people have ended up in my bed, but they don't not.
- 9:53I'm not saying that this is what's going to happen, but they
- 9:55don't spend the night. Oh, do you kick them out?
- 9:58And when do you let them know that you're going to kick them
- 10:01out? Well, if it's a one night stand,
- 10:03there's no expectation of spending the night, right?
- 10:05I don't, I don't think we should if we're having a one night
- 10:08stand. No, there should never be an
- 10:09expectation. Also, I don't have my contacts
- 10:11case, I don't have my makeup remover.
- 10:12I don't want to spend the night. That said I have had a two night
- 10:17stand where after the first date she had her contacts, her
- 10:23retainer, her toothbrush all in her bag and sunglasses and she
- 10:28said oh I always go out like this because I never know where
- 10:31I'm going to spend the night. Honestly shout out to that
- 10:34queen. I used to do that in my 20s.
- 10:36I would go out always with my contacts case in my purse and
- 10:40like makeup remover because I was like I don't know where I'm
- 10:42going to sleep. I'm just out here being a slut.
- 10:44She slept on my house. Yeah, good for her.
- 10:46Yeah, Queen behavior. Queen behavior for sure, but
- 10:50that that person spending the night.
- 10:51They're just since my last partner I've only had like a
- 10:55handful of sleepovers honestly in years.
- 10:58As I've gotten older, I wanted less and less people to sleep
- 11:02over. I used to be really into just
- 11:04like if I had sex with you, like maybe I would have a sleepover.
- 11:07And then over the past several years, like since my last big
- 11:10breakup, I was like, no, like, no one is interrupting my
- 11:14morning routine. I'd rather just cuddle with my
- 11:16cat like I'm not. I want to sleep, yeah, I also
- 11:19want to sleep and, and the first night is with a new person for
- 11:24me is never good sleep. No, I mean I feel like if you
- 11:26don't know them well, your nervous system is on high alert.
- 11:29It thinks you're going to get killed in your sleep especially.
- 11:33Especially. If you're a woman, I was going
- 11:35to say, but I'm I'm still scared of getting killed in my sleep by
- 11:38some by like a smaller demure woman, you know, yoga fairy by
- 11:43my yoga like a Nikita or something.
- 11:45You know she could be a femme fatale.
- 11:47She could be. You could be a Russian
- 11:48operative. Yeah, I.
- 11:49Think that'd be a fun change for you?
- 11:53So people come and grace the bed, but they they don't spend
- 11:57the night. OK, OK.
- 11:58Unless unless you're a special. Are you letting them know?
- 12:01Like are you on the date or pre date?
- 12:03Just being like, just so you know, I'm not like I'm not
- 12:07having a sleepover tonight. Usually.
- 12:10I mean, do we know we're having sex?
- 12:11Because that's very presumptuous.
- 12:13I think that. We I can't bring that up until
- 12:17we both know we're having sex. That's true.
- 12:19I think if you know you're having sex or even I am
- 12:22overcommunicative and I always encourage my clients and people
- 12:26who follow me on the Internet to be overcommunicative.
- 12:28And so I always encourage a conversation around like, hey,
- 12:33like are you hoping for playtime tonight?
- 12:36Are you hoping to fool around? Like I'd love to fool around
- 12:38later. I don't know what you're
- 12:40thinking. Like to have that conversation,
- 12:41you don't have to do it over a text because that could be
- 12:43pretty awkward, but you can have it in person with your clothes
- 12:47on. As I like to say, you don't have
- 12:49to be doubly naked. Yeah, and you can talk about
- 12:51sexual health at that point as well.
- 12:53Absolutely, yeah. Yeah, I like to have all that
- 12:56information because I want to know if I'm going to bring my
- 12:58contacts. Case that's in for that.
- 13:00That's how you give consent, by giving all the information.
- 13:03Yeah, informed. I don't usually say that I'm not
- 13:07into having a sleepover before we have sex.
- 13:11OK. OK, but I also don't go into the
- 13:13assumption that they're going to want to spend the night.
- 13:15I, I, I do remember kicking somebody out at 2:00 AM in the
- 13:19Mission. Oh, my God, I know.
- 13:21Where did they have to go? She was, well, luckily not that
- 13:24far. She lived in the Mission and she
- 13:27was on her bike. Oh, then she's.
- 13:29Fine, and so did she lived on her bike she did is that what I
- 13:31said she. Was on her bike, that's fine.
- 13:35She was disappointed because I was and I, this was when I
- 13:37wasn't as commutative, but I said something like, oh, I've
- 13:41got a big day tomorrow. Oh yeah.
- 13:43Which is not. That's rough.
- 13:45That's rough, yeah. I like to just let everyone know
- 13:49because I want to know, I want to set expectations, and I think
- 13:52it can help everyone's nervous system if they know what they're
- 13:56bringing in to the date. I also think that potentially
- 13:59I'm thinking about like dating in the Poly world, people are
- 14:03extremely communicative, right? And often people have other
- 14:07partners or whatever. And so we're all trying to like
- 14:11negotiate around that. And so I think that like talking
- 14:14about whether you're going to have a sleepover or not, I mean,
- 14:16I need to know if I'm going to bring a bag etcetera.
- 14:18Yeah, I need to know if I if you need Creamer in your coffee.
- 14:21Exactly. Because I want to be a good
- 14:23host. That's exactly as you should be.
- 14:25And is it oat based or are we past that now?
- 14:27It's like only now we're going back to almond even though it's
- 14:31almond. Bad for the environment, but
- 14:32it's better for my gut. I know for the left almond.
- 14:35The microbiome, okay, so that's we're basically going to talk
- 14:40about sex for the whole hour. My favorite topic.
- 14:43And then I have some questions here that we also have some
- 14:45other questions. Great.
- 14:47Are we pivoting or do you feel like we need to go deeper in?
- 14:51I want to give them that's something they can take away
- 14:53from this conversation of like, OK, if I don't want to have a
- 14:55sleepover, how can I say it nicely to my partner?
- 14:59And I think I would say something like, I'm really
- 15:01excited to see you tonight, really excited to fool around or
- 15:04whatever language you use and then say something like, I don't
- 15:07think I'm up for a sleepover. Just like letting you know, just
- 15:12something like that. You don't even say, I don't
- 15:13think. Yeah, you're right, I'm not.
- 15:16I'm not up for a sleepover and you can also change your mind.
- 15:19That's true. That's why you can say, hey, I
- 15:21said I wasn't up for this, but now I am.
- 15:23Yeah, but like, definitely lead with something you're excited
- 15:25about, about seeing them, about touching their skin, whatever.
- 15:28Shit sandwich. Yes, exactly.
- 15:31That's important. Can't wait.
- 15:34And then and with. I cannot wait to see you.
- 15:36Yeah, I can't wait to see you. Can't wait to see you.
- 15:38When are you coming? Yeah, bring that big whatever.
- 15:40When are you bring those big titties on?
- 15:44Yeah, bring those big whatevers over here.
- 15:47That's a good, that's a good take away.
- 15:49Do you want to do a take away by your Peterman Sidra?
- 15:51Now I feel like I'm still coming to terms.
- 15:55This is a new revelation. My biggest question is like what
- 15:58is going to turn you either way around kids like you're 43, what
- 16:02are you waiting for to make the decision?
- 16:05Well, I'm not just I I don't have ovaries.
- 16:09That's true, but your sperm does make an impact.
- 16:13The age of your sperm. We're not talking about my the
- 16:15age of my sperm right now. No, I'm kidding.
- 16:18It does. It 100% does.
- 16:19I was thinking you're getting my my sperm frozen.
- 16:22You should. Yeah, I'm 43.
- 16:23It's like, at this point it's a geriatric sperm.
- 16:25It. Is a little bit.
- 16:26Yeah, I mean, even even though Mick Jagger and Robert De Niro,
- 16:31you know. I mean, you could definitely
- 16:32still get someone pregnant with it, it just changes some of the
- 16:36outcomes. We don't.
- 16:37We want the best possible outcomes.
- 16:38I should have frozen it at 30. Well, you know, shoulda coulda
- 16:42whata is. I like your attitude.
- 16:44Yeah. What was the question?
- 16:47Oh, well, so first of all, I don't have anybody to have a kid
- 16:49with. So for me, it's more I'm not
- 16:52just going to. I don't have ovaries.
- 16:53So. So I don't, I don't have the
- 16:56baby lust or whatever that desire is that some some people
- 17:01have. I don't have that.
- 17:02I would almost say that I'm baby blind.
- 17:05You're baby blind, Yeah. Like like I just, I met someone
- 17:09recently who really wants to have a baby.
- 17:11She's pet blind. She looks at.
- 17:13She doesn't see pets. Pets are just not in the she
- 17:17only sees. Babies.
- 17:18Oh that's so funny. I see them both.
- 17:19And I'm like kind of baby blind. Like I see babies that I'm just
- 17:22like, cool, you're just like whatever.
- 17:23I'm whatever about. Babies and I'm like, I need to
- 17:26have right of those. I don't have that.
- 17:29Oh, that's. Fine, and I'm more like I would
- 17:31prefer not to hang out with them but the idea of having my own is
- 17:36interesting. But only in relationship.
- 17:39OK, a great person where like we bring love into this like family
- 17:44system. And so for me at 43 without a
- 17:47partner and no prospect, well, it doesn't seem very realistic
- 17:51that it's like I don't even have to think about whether I want to
- 17:54have kids or not. Right.
- 17:55I mean, it's not, it's not front and center.
- 17:57I would definitely encourage you to think about it.
- 17:59Yeah, but I do think about it. I also think about bringing kids
- 18:02into this world. Yes, I think that's a very
- 18:06different and challenging conversation.
- 18:08Financially, Environmentally, water.
- 18:11Are we going to have water? Dude, I texted several people a
- 18:15couple weeks ago and was like, is it so immoral for me to try
- 18:18and bring a kid into the world when I don't have when there's
- 18:20not going to be water? Although I did text one of my
- 18:22close friends who's like an environmental scientist guy and
- 18:26he was like, don't worry, we'll have water, we'll have water.
- 18:29Yeah, I mean, the way people are using, the way people are using
- 18:33water, it doesn't seem like we're going to have water.
- 18:35I agree with. That.
- 18:36So I appreciate the encouragement.
- 18:38It's not that I'm not thinking about it, it's just that like,
- 18:42first, I need a partner and I'm not, I'm not going to like just
- 18:45go get a kid on my own. I don't love them that much.
- 18:48And also I feel like people don't like don't think about
- 18:51having kids as much as maybe I'm thinking about not having a kid.
- 18:55What do you mean? People just kind of like just
- 18:57have them without even feel like it just happened.
- 18:59Many. People do do that.
- 19:00I think especially living in the Bay Area, like most people I
- 19:03know are extremely intentional about it.
- 19:05But I think that that is a very specific subset of people.
- 19:09And also most people in the Bay Area are technically quote UN
- 19:12quote older parents than the rest of America statistically.
- 19:16Because. Because everyone is like career
- 19:19focused and something Peter Pan. Yes, yeah, this is Neverland.
- 19:23It is. It is Neverland.
- 19:27OK, I think we've, we've, we've covered this topic, Yeah.
- 19:31And I hope that people at home now know a little bit more about
- 19:34about Peter Pan syndrome. Yeah.
- 19:37So there's a few topics you wanted to touch on, one of them
- 19:39being monogamy as a false sense of security.
- 19:43And I'm very interested in this. Yes, this is one of my new
- 19:47favorite obsessions. I posted something about this
- 19:50the other day and the Internet went wild and people were very
- 19:55upset with me for implying that monogamy was not a false like is
- 20:01a false sense of security or that monogamy was not something
- 20:04they were choosing intentionally.
- 20:06And they were all saying that like but I don't like why are
- 20:08you throwing this Poly non monogamy agenda down our
- 20:11throats? And the whole point of the post
- 20:14was not. That you should be Poly or non
- 20:16monogamous. The whole point was that being
- 20:19in a monogamous relationship does not guarantee anything.
- 20:23It doesn't guarantee longevity. It doesn't guarantee
- 20:26satisfaction. It doesn't guarantee that
- 20:28someone's not going to leave you.
- 20:30Because that's the thing that I hear most, especially working
- 20:33with people, couples, singles who are deciding to go into an
- 20:38open relationship that they're like.
- 20:40But how do I make sure that this person that I'm going to be with
- 20:43or that I'm currently with isn't going to then leave me because
- 20:46they have met someone else? But The thing is, they could
- 20:49have always left you. Yes.
- 20:51And doesn't it kind of increase the chances because you're
- 20:55opening your heart up to somebody else in a way that you
- 20:58might not, you might be a little bit more cagey.
- 21:00You might be a little bit more cagey, but you might not.
- 21:03Well, plenty of people are cheating in monogamy and then
- 21:07leaving people for the affair partner.
- 21:09My my favorite non ethical non monogamy.
- 21:13Exactly. Exactly.
- 21:15Man. I practice.
- 21:16Oh, yeah. Wow.
- 21:18Just kidding. I'm just kidding.
- 21:20Yeah, no one quote him on that. I.
- 21:21Have never cheated in my life. Wow, neither am I, hey.
- 21:27You know what? It's not that hard.
- 21:30It's not hard not to cheat. Yeah you just have to over
- 21:32communicate but also cheating is like you want to learn something
- 21:37from it. If you have cheated you want to
- 21:39gain information. My therapist.
- 21:41I'm trying to fucking shame cheaters here.
- 21:45Don't do it. Try to make sure cheaters know
- 21:47that they're welcome in my practice.
- 21:49You're welcome in Claire's practice.
- 21:52I think that there's a lot to be gained insight wise about what's
- 21:56not working for you, what's not working in your relationship, if
- 21:59you have the urge to cheat, if you act on that urge to cheat,
- 22:03if you cheat in the past. I definitely don't think once a
- 22:05cheater, always a cheater, no. No, you.
- 22:07Don't think so. No, no, because that
- 22:10relationship is a very specific dynamic, a container that you've
- 22:14created, and maybe that thing was not working and you didn't
- 22:17communicate about it. That's a definite like.
- 22:18You got to work on that, but that doesn't mean that the next
- 22:21relationship is also going to be a container that doesn't work
- 22:23for you. Yeah, I agree.
- 22:25Good. I agree.
- 22:27I don't think I've ever been cheated on either.
- 22:29But. Oh, I've also never been cheated
- 22:31on. We don't know.
- 22:34I trust all my ex partners. Shout out to my ex partners.
- 22:37Shout out to your to Claire's ex partners.
- 22:39Yeah, I I'm pretty sure except for maybe the 1st girl that I
- 22:43dated, but we were, this was like a girl.
- 22:45We were like 15 yeah, in high school.
- 22:47So I don't feel like that that counts.
- 22:50Yeah. So people think that monogamy,
- 22:53you might get a false sense of security.
- 22:55I mean, I've always said like even with like bisexuality,
- 22:59people are like, Oh well, if they're bi then they have a
- 23:01double, double the chance of them leaving because they're
- 23:04also attracted to, they're attracted to all the gender.
- 23:06Right, which is a bullshit stereotype of bisexuals.
- 23:09We are only slutty if we choose to be, and that does not mean we
- 23:14are cheaters. There are a lot of slutty
- 23:16straight people. There are a lot of slutty
- 23:18straight people. I mean, I think.
- 23:20They're slutty people. There should be.
- 23:21There should be more sluts in the world.
- 23:23Although if we were to rank sluts, yeah, gay, gay men.
- 23:28Oh yeah. The sluttiest Well, gay men are
- 23:30leading the way for all of. Us, they are opening, they're
- 23:33like they're they're plowing the field to to leave a big wide
- 23:37open. I am thankful to them for
- 23:40showing us the way. The gay men, It's it's like 2
- 23:45gas pedals. Yeah, no.
- 23:48Breaks. But I also think that that is a
- 23:50stereotype of gay men. Of course, that makes it
- 23:53difficult for them to find lovers who aren't like people
- 23:57who identify as like full gas pedals.
- 23:59Yes, my apologies to gay men everywhere because we are I I am
- 24:04perpetuating that stereotype. And I think you have.
- 24:05A lot of gay male listeners. I have gay male listeners that
- 24:08hi hey and that I get questions from them saying I am a
- 24:15monogamous man and it's hard for me to find a partner who also
- 24:19values monogamy. Yes, yes, and it feels like all
- 24:22gay men want to do is hook up. Well, I think that is largely
- 24:25like the version of gay men that is like stepping forward.
- 24:29But I absolutely don't think that it is like, it has to be
- 24:33what gay men want. I know a lot of gay men who are
- 24:36monogamous. I have a lot of clients I've
- 24:38seen that have been monogamous gay men or seeking monogamous
- 24:41gay men. And I think that more power to
- 24:43you. Like live in your truth.
- 24:45If you want to be monogamous and a gay guy, like fuck yeah.
- 24:48And if you want to be heterosexual and polyamorous,
- 24:53also heck yeah. Also, fuck yeah.
- 24:55I think fuck you to whatever you want to be as long as you are
- 24:58doing it with a consent forward practice and everyone knows what
- 25:03they're signing up for. Everybody's on board.
- 25:05Everyone's on board and everyone's excited about it.
- 25:08Yeah, what if you try something new that you're not super
- 25:12excited about? Like I got pegged recently.
- 25:14Oh my God. Oh my God.
- 25:16Not the first time, OK, yeah, but the first time in a long
- 25:20time. OK, what made you decide to open
- 25:22yourself up both literally, physically and metaphorically?
- 25:27I met somebody on field who love field.
- 25:30We do love field. Who was a queer woman looking to
- 25:35top? Great love that.
- 25:37And I'm a pretty straight dude and I was like into exploring
- 25:41being a bottom because honestly, being sort of like a more
- 25:45dominant man who sleeps with women, like I end up doing most
- 25:49of the like directing and like this is kind of how things go.
- 25:53And it's really nice to not yes, my I was just so nice How it.
- 25:57Is our bottoms. You have to experience what
- 26:01you're giving. I think that's the best way to
- 26:03learn. Well, I did.
- 26:04Good. And did you have a prostate
- 26:06orgasm? Definitely not.
- 26:08Once I gave a guy a prostate orgasm and he told me he saw
- 26:11God. It was like the best fucking
- 26:13thing ever. That sounds great.
- 26:16Here's the thing, this will be a good sag into like achieving
- 26:20orgasm or multiple orgasms. Asking questions about that but
- 26:24I have tried prostate stimulation.
- 26:27OK, since I was like a 13 year old boy.
- 26:30OK, so you're into it or you've just been trying?
- 26:33I've just been trying it OK and it just doesn't feel that great.
- 26:36OK, then why keep doing it? Because I want to see God,
- 26:41obviously. OK, I like this.
- 26:44It's like, you know, it's like women trying to squirt when they
- 26:46can't squirt or whatever. I.
- 26:50You don't need to squirt. Well.
- 26:52You don't want to squirt. They've heard it's good, and
- 26:54I've heard that a prostate orgasm is good too, and so I
- 26:56want to experience the fullness of the sexual smorgasbord.
- 27:02That's true. OK, but not all bodies can do
- 27:05everything. Yeah, well, mine can't.
- 27:07Mine can't do that. Did you feel pleasure though?
- 27:10There was a. There was some pleasure around
- 27:14being dominated, right? Like being at being a bottom was
- 27:17kind of fun. The power play is fun.
- 27:19Yeah. And she smacked me around a
- 27:20little bit. And, you know.
- 27:21Yeah. But the sensation wasn't
- 27:23pleasant. Wasn't pleasant.
- 27:26No, But I But I've done that. I've done that plenty.
- 27:30And it's like, OK, now I'm just jerking off with the prostate
- 27:34simulation here. OK, here's what I will say it.
- 27:36Didn't take it to another. Level We'll we'll get into the
- 27:38nitty gritty every time. If I if I jerk off with
- 27:44something in my ass, the orgasm is not as good.
- 27:48Oh, that's interesting. It's like it's not as powerful.
- 27:51It feels like kind of stilted or like like there's something
- 27:57stopping. I like rimming.
- 27:58I like, I like around. I like maybe.
- 28:02Like maybe. That's how you're going to see
- 28:03God. I just don't think that that's
- 28:06for how I'm going to see God. OK, the other thing is that
- 28:09like, how relaxed and comfortable and like connected
- 28:13did you feel to this woman? Yeah, that gives us all the
- 28:18information. Yeah, I mean, not.
- 28:20No, she's a total freaking stranger.
- 28:22Right. So the dude that I helped see
- 28:24God, like we, we were lovers. They've been seeing each other
- 28:27for a while. Like we had a lot of comfort, a
- 28:29lot of intimacy. I think that is also very
- 28:31important. It's the same with squirting.
- 28:33If you're out here trying to squirt, like don't just get some
- 28:36random person off the Internet who's like, I'm so good at
- 28:38making women squirt, Like, this is my thing.
- 28:41Like that squirt is not going to feel that good.
- 28:44Should I take that off my field profile?
- 28:48I have AI have a personal vendana with the the men who are
- 28:52into making women squirt as like a thing.
- 28:55I had an experience recently with someone who unexpectedly
- 28:59squirted. Oh wow, And it was incredible.
- 29:02Well, I mean unexpected squirting.
- 29:04I think it can be very fun. We we, we soaked the mattress.
- 29:08Unfortunately, Yeah, I really. That's why you have to have one
- 29:11of those blankets. Yeah, I know.
- 29:12I have have we just, we just didn't have it out, you know,
- 29:16and it's like you can't be like, oh, so oh, you're about to
- 29:19squirt. Well, that's why you have like
- 29:21the blanket. You set it down and you're like,
- 29:23this is the sex blanket. Just in case.
- 29:25Whatever. It's easier to clean.
- 29:26Absolutely. And I'm.
- 29:27With you just from the beginning.
- 29:29I'm with you. This was, we were not.
- 29:30This was a new, this is the first time having sex.
- 29:33We didn't have all that. Yeah, she'd never squirted it
- 29:36before. She had, but you know, I don't
- 29:38think reliably OK. Yeah, I mean fun.
- 29:40Super hot, Super hot. Yeah, that actually sags really
- 29:44well into a question that I got on Instagram, which is then we
- 29:49can we can talk about squirting as well.
- 29:52But is super wet a turn off? Oh, do we know if this is a Dick
- 29:57Haber or a vulva? Haber, this is a this is a
- 30:00pussy. Oh.
- 30:01This is a question that I get actually fairly frequently.
- 30:04Really. Yeah, Women are concerned that
- 30:08their pussy's too wet and because they've also heard from
- 30:11their male partners, like kind of shaming them for being too
- 30:15wet. Thumbs down.
- 30:17I don't see the. Thumbs down to being too wet.
- 30:19No thumbs down to those male partners.
- 30:23Wait, this is a podcast? But.
- 30:24But also video. But also video.
- 30:25Yeah. So I so I did my thumbs down,
- 30:27but then I had to say what I was doing.
- 30:29No girl too wet. No, no, it's you are.
- 30:33You are perfect just as you are. And if you are that turned on,
- 30:36like fuck yeah. But also wetness isn't an
- 30:39indicator of turn on. No, it's a pretty it's it can
- 30:44it? Can be, I mean if you're like
- 30:45extremely fucking wet, I would assume that you are a little bit
- 30:49turned on more than usual. Like like I drop those male
- 30:54partners immediately or educate them, send them to my page and
- 31:01educate the fuck out of them about how sex can work and how
- 31:05you can communicate or be curious about what's happening
- 31:08for your partner's body. If it feels different for them
- 31:13then you can just like take a second and do something else,
- 31:16take their Dick out and then it will be a little less wet next
- 31:19time they put their Dick back. In well, I've also heard women
- 31:21saying just grab a towel and go and just slop it out there for
- 31:26a. Yeah, or like use your fucking
- 31:27hand and then lick it off like a good boy, OK?
- 31:33They're definitely not doing that.
- 31:34Definitely not. Yeah, OK as OK, I'll see.
- 31:38From my experience, never have I been like, oh, this is too wet.
- 31:43I'm always like more wet. I have never said that to any
- 31:47vulva having partner I have ever had.
- 31:49I've never been like oh God, I can't believe how turned on you
- 31:52are. And squirting is fun because it
- 31:56makes things extra wet. Yeah, it's a different kind of
- 31:59wet though. It's a definitely a different
- 32:00kind. Of wet it's it's it's you're
- 32:02not. Be prepared.
- 32:03Yeah, it's not as like Slick. Yeah.
- 32:06It's not as luby. No, it's not.
- 32:08It's not as luby. It's more watery, yes.
- 32:10It's more watery. It's like less sticky.
- 32:12So super wet is not a turn off. No, it's great.
- 32:16It's a turn on. Yes, for everybody.
- 32:19Yes, except for people who are shaming you for having an
- 32:22overabundance. Yeah, it's a turn off that they
- 32:24said that to you. That should turn you off.
- 32:27Yes, knowing that squirting in in in quotation is mostly urine.
- 32:35Do men actually enjoy when women do this?
- 32:38Honestly I think it's like each person has a different opinion.
- 32:42No, we want a blanket statement generalizing all men.
- 32:48I I can't do. That is this a not all men
- 32:50situation. Hashtag not all men.
- 32:55I think different people feel different ways about squirting
- 32:57like I, I don't think anyone is like ill gross, but I think some
- 33:00people like sure, it like really turns them on and other people
- 33:02are like, okay, I feel neutral about this and like it happened
- 33:05and I'm excited that you're excited.
- 33:07And some people might be like, yeah, I'm not into it.
- 33:09Yeah, but that, but I think it's also about like some vulva
- 33:14Havers can squirt and it cannot be that orgasmic for them.
- 33:17Like sometimes it can just be kind of like a physical response
- 33:22that is actually not that like great feeling.
- 33:25It could be annoying too. I mean it is.
- 33:27It can be annoying. Yeah, if if they like, don't
- 33:30like the way that it feels in their body when they squirt, but
- 33:34like, please don't stop yourself from squirting because you feel
- 33:37embarrassed that it happens. Like if you are a squirter, fuck
- 33:41yeah. Like just have some stuff ready
- 33:43to go. To you need a lot of sex
- 33:45blankets. You need sex blankets.
- 33:47You can also use puppy pads. The same thing.
- 33:50Yeah, yeah. But I will say from a logistical
- 33:53standpoint, having dated someone long term who was a squirter
- 33:57consistently every time, lots of laundry.
- 34:00Yep, you have to travel with your with your sex blankets and
- 34:05they have travel size. They make things for this like
- 34:10yeah y'all, you can squirt every single time and it can be great.
- 34:15And I like it. Oh, great.
- 34:17Sean loves it You. Drink it up.
- 34:18No I I have heard that you can drink squirt and it's like
- 34:25drugs, like better than just drinking cum.
- 34:31I mean, I won't say no to trying it.
- 34:33I need to try and get back to your.
- 34:35Listeners Well, The thing is that it's like I've never had
- 34:38somebody squirt without my Dick inside of them so.
- 34:41Interesting. Yeah.
- 34:43OK, not to say that I have like a Magic Dick.
- 34:45Oh, it sounds like I'm a Magic Dick.
- 34:48It is. It is apparently a good size.
- 34:50It's a good size. It's not, I mean squirting
- 34:53normally there's no normal, but like often I know happens from
- 34:57hands like because people are very specifically trying to like
- 34:59make them squirt with their hand.
- 35:01Right. A lot of G spot, a lot of
- 35:02pressure, a lot of like pulling on.
- 35:04I've never seen your Dick but I wonder if it's like specifically
- 35:07curved to hit. It's like curved.
- 35:08It's just pretty. It's just a pretty straight
- 35:10Dick, but I think it's are. You doing it at a specific angle
- 35:13that makes people squirt every time?
- 35:14Or is it just like missionary NBD any any position cowgirl OK.
- 35:20Cowgirl or or some, I mean this, this hyper, I could call her a
- 35:25hyper squirter. I guess it didn't really matter
- 35:29which position as long as there was some G spot simulation.
- 35:31It was good. Love it.
- 35:33Yeah. But I think most times I've had
- 35:35it like spontaneously happened. It's only happened like a
- 35:38handful of times in my life. They've been on top living in
- 35:41cowgirl. Well, that's a that's a much
- 35:43easier G spot stem. And the feeling of, like, your
- 35:48crotch being flooded with hot liquid is really hot.
- 35:53Very hot. Yeah.
- 35:55OK, that's squirting. Love it.
- 35:57Everyone should try it. But also, it's not for
- 36:00everybody. It might not.
- 36:02It might not happen. Right.
- 36:03I mean, don't try and force yourself to squirt That I think
- 36:06is like, there's no need unless you are like, really like just
- 36:09trying to be curious about what your body can do.
- 36:12Yeah, but it's not necessary to have hot sex.
- 36:15It's not necessary to have hot sex, no, but it can.
- 36:18Yeah, it can be part of hot sex. Yes, it can be part of hot sex.
- 36:21And are there How do you squirt if you wanted to try?
- 36:25Oh God, well, you're the one who has the school.
- 36:30Come over you're. Going to get so many DMS.
- 36:35I already get so many DMS. About making people squirt.
- 36:38Well, I, I get DM, I get a lot of DMS of like people like
- 36:42shooting their shot, but it's always like come to Des Moines
- 36:45or like, yeah, exactly. That's how I respond.
- 36:47I'm like, why? Like, I'm not coming for coffee,
- 36:52but if it's like, hey, I want to squirt, then I might be more
- 36:55interested, you know? Listen, if you really want to
- 36:58squirt, there are definitely like squirting workshops that
- 37:00you can go to or take. Check out Pleura, they probably
- 37:04have some squirting workshops on there.
- 37:06Online. Yeah, you could also ask Claude.
- 37:12I have no idea what Claude would say about how to make someone
- 37:14squirt. They might tell you it's
- 37:16inappropriate. Or that they can't give you that
- 37:17information. Yes, yeah, but there are there
- 37:19are resources out there. We just don't particularly have
- 37:22them be super turned on. G spy simulation push, that's
- 37:27that's all I got. Pushing, I think, feels like an
- 37:31important part of the the experience.
- 37:34It can be, some people can do it without like pushing often it
- 37:38also it just depends on like if you're going to squirt or not.
- 37:41Not not everyone squirts. That's the name of this episode.
- 37:45Not everyone squirts and it's OK.
- 37:48It was sex clarified and it's OK.
- 37:52Yourself through your non. Squirting.
- 37:54OK, let's see, what else do we got?
- 37:59Snowballing can be so fun, but lots of CIS guys are opposed to
- 38:03making out after blowjob. What gives?
- 38:06Oh. My God, I've never heard the
- 38:09term snowballing. Are you serious?
- 38:11Well, I. Can't believe.
- 38:12That OK, hold on. What she's describing here is
- 38:16not making out after a blowjob is not snowballing.
- 38:19She means having the cum in her mouth.
- 38:20Well, snowballing is when you have cum in your mouth and then
- 38:23you feed it to somebody else. How have I been in the sex
- 38:27space? I never heard this term.
- 38:30That is, that is quite shocking. I am shocked it.
- 38:34Is I'm not to the point where I need to like question your
- 38:37credentials? I am baffled.
- 38:41It's also not like, it's not like a hot Carl or something.
- 38:44It's not like there's like some of them that are like, really,
- 38:47you know, very specific. Alex Snowball's like pretty.
- 38:51She said people aren't into snowballing, so I I got caught
- 38:53up on the back that I didn't even know the phrase.
- 38:55It's so fun, but lots of CIS guys are opposed to making out
- 38:57after a blowjob, right? So it's like CIS guys like don't
- 38:59want to like taste their cum. Yes, that I have known for a
- 39:03long, long time of fucking CIS men.
- 39:06Fucking CIS men. Fucking CIS men.
- 39:11Oh yeah. I mean, what are you going to?
- 39:16I don't think you can force them.
- 39:17No, and I think I think we're that's not I don't think that's
- 39:20where she was heading. She's just saying what gives
- 39:22She's. Saying what gives the patriarchy
- 39:24bro? The patriarchy heteronormativity
- 39:28is gay to taste your own sperm. Probably is is It's not.
- 39:34We're not. We're saying it's I'm saying I'm
- 39:36not saying it's gay to taste your own sperm.
- 39:37That's what that's the message. Well, that's the idea.
- 39:39There's no message. We've gotten, yeah, but.
- 39:42From who? Big sperm.
- 39:44There's no nobody's saying it's gay to taste your own sperm.
- 39:48Honestly, patriarchy says it's gay to do most stuff.
- 39:52Right. Probably it makes sense that it
- 39:55then follows it's gay to taste your own sperm.
- 39:59These are the same dudes who think squirting is gross or that
- 40:04extra wet pussies are gross. Just stop fucking that.
- 40:07Yeah, don't fuck these guys. Don't fuck just.
- 40:09Like on the first date, sit them down and say listen, I need to
- 40:14know your thoughts on these three things.
- 40:16Are we, are we like victim blaming though?
- 40:18If we're saying don't fuck these guys like it's kind of on you
- 40:21like you should. No, I think that you should be
- 40:24assessing for people's approach to sex before you have.
- 40:29Sex with them be discerning. Well, yes, be discerning, but
- 40:33also like do a little bit of assessment, ask some questions
- 40:37about how they think about sex, how they approach sex, how
- 40:40playful they feel like sex can. And, yeah, I think you can do
- 40:45all of this before ever taking clothes off.
- 40:48And then you don't have to straight up say, like, what do
- 40:51you think of a super wet pussy? But you can ask questions
- 40:55around, just, like, the idea of sex or sexuality and then see
- 41:00how someone approaches it. And that will give you an idea
- 41:03of how they might answer the question.
- 41:04What do you think about tasting your own cum after?
- 41:07It's in my mouth, Yeah. I think it's hot.
- 41:10Yeah. Great also.
- 41:11Think you are? Right.
- 41:13I know. OK, never mind.
- 41:14OK. I just won't.
- 41:15I won't chime in then obviously this hot.
- 41:19I just I'll just ask questions. Yeah, Yeah.
- 41:23Sean, stop talking. No, but I but I am also
- 41:29presenting an alternative view. Hey, guys, it's fine.
- 41:34It's like it doesn't taste weird.
- 41:36Also for the I mean, a snowball is different.
- 41:38That's like a whole load that you might not be into that.
- 41:41But like if you come in somebody's mouth and they
- 41:44swallow, there's you very little sperm left.
- 41:48There's like it's like a a mild coating.
- 41:51I think it's NBD. And it's hot.
- 41:53Yeah, she's going to find it really hot.
- 41:55Everyone's finding it hot. You have to stop sex.
- 41:57You can just keep playing around.
- 41:59Yeah, but I'm hungry. I can't.
- 42:02Your own that's not, and she's got a snack for you.
- 42:10Problem solved. You don't have to go.
- 42:12You don't have to go to the kitchen.
- 42:13My main message here, beyond drink your own sperm, is sex
- 42:18does not have to end once the Dick haver comes.
- 42:22Yes, it should keep going. It can.
- 42:25It can. Some people are OK with it
- 42:27ending there some. People are OK.
- 42:29With it, both partners can be OK with it like but also maybe
- 42:32that's. I don't think that has to be the
- 42:34rule though. I think that we have been lulled
- 42:36into this sense of, of OK, the Dick comes and then we're all
- 42:40just done, no matter how satisfied either parties are.
- 42:43And I think that you can keep going.
- 42:45And also for women. Fucking dudes.
- 42:47You can ask for it to keep going.
- 42:49You should if you want. If you wanted to, yeah.
- 42:54I will say in my defense, I should probably stop talking
- 43:04and, and I'm actually really curious about your, your input
- 43:06on this, because my sexual arousal peaks after an orgasm
- 43:11and it, there's a there's a lull, there's it kind of goes
- 43:14down. And so and I, and the way I
- 43:16understand feminine sexuality, it's not necessarily like that,
- 43:20but I actually have heard from a lot of women who are like, after
- 43:23I come, I'm down. I'm like, done.
- 43:25Yeah. So for some women, it also
- 43:28depends if you're like experiencing multiple orgasms as
- 43:31a vulva haver, there might be a specific orgasm that you get to
- 43:35that's like tiered, you know, you might get to like the third
- 43:38tier of orgasm and then feel like you're done.
- 43:41So I know other women or vulva Havers might just have one
- 43:46really big orgasm and then they feel finished.
- 43:48But I think the whole point is that like make sure you're
- 43:50discussing when you actually want to finish, finish sex.
- 43:55Yeah. And if you are with a Dick haver
- 43:57who comes and then feels like they're totally just down for
- 44:00the count, they're they're not going to engage in sex after
- 44:03that because they're just not that into it.
- 44:04One, I say like you can still use your hands and stuff like
- 44:09you don't have to like it's not engaging with your Dick.
- 44:12And two, if you like, if that really is, if they like fall
- 44:16asleep immediately or whatever, then plan your sexual play
- 44:19around that. Like make sure you're super
- 44:22satisfied before we get to that point.
- 44:25I'm happy to keep going after. I would prefer not to.
- 44:29And so I make sure that you're good before I come.
- 44:34I mean, there is that book She Comes First, which I don't know,
- 44:38Ian Kerner. I actually enjoy that because, I
- 44:42mean, some people were like, oh, it's problematic for I don't
- 44:44know what reasons, but like, let's make sure she has an
- 44:47orgasm. Multiple well.
- 44:50If she can't multiple, that's. And so if that means she comes
- 44:53first and that's she comes first, yeah, I'm happy to wait.
- 44:57Yeah, I'm also more turned on. It's like there's like some
- 44:59edging happening, yes. Exactly.
- 45:01Well, I mean, she comes, you know, 8 or 9 or 15 times.
- 45:06That's great, but that's. Also another thing I want Volvo
- 45:12owners to take out of this is that if you are having trouble
- 45:16experiencing orgasm, you potentially can experience
- 45:20multiple of them and you just haven't like figured out how to
- 45:22reach the multiple tiers. And you can also use a toy for
- 45:26that, like with pertinent sex. Yeah, but what about now?
- 45:30I feel emasculated. Sorry, I know you don't, which
- 45:34is why I mean that I mean. Why do you need that if I'm
- 45:38here? Well, because it's a lot for
- 45:41people to focus on to be that. That means that the Dick haver
- 45:45has to be not only directing most of the sex, but using his
- 45:50hands and his Dick to get this chick off.
- 45:52Feels like a one man band. Right, it's a lot, it's a lot
- 45:56and like that's a lot of pressure and to have the
- 45:58pressure to keep his Dick hard and.
- 45:59Stay hard. Yeah, stay.
- 46:00Hard and not come too quickly or whatever.
- 46:03Like don't you want a little bit of support here?
- 46:06This is like your your other Co conspirator.
- 46:09I need the truth. The truth.
- 46:11Yeah, like and. Bring in the backups, yeah.
- 46:13Well it's not backups, it's someone it's like your Co
- 46:16director here. If if you can get off reliably
- 46:19with a toy like I don't see why you would not want your chick to
- 46:23have an orgasm. And then also you can do
- 46:25honestly more positions because if you're fucking or from behind
- 46:29and you don't necessarily have the like.
- 46:31Dexterity or the the outward stability.
- 46:34Or your body sizes are too different or something.
- 46:36It's like too hard to like reach around.
- 46:38Like use a fucking toy there. There is absolutely no shame and
- 46:41I actually think it's way hot if someone doesn't think that it is
- 46:46in competition with them. I'm a big fan of fucking while
- 46:50you're using a toy. I can't vibrate my my hand
- 46:54can't. Yeah.
- 46:55You know a lot. It's a lot to do the DJ.
- 46:57You know, you got to get a lot of forearms.
- 46:59And, like, you're chill, OK? If you're on your back and
- 47:01you're getting penetrated, you're chilling.
- 47:03Yeah, for the most part. Yeah, you can.
- 47:05You got two hands you could do. I'll do my thing.
- 47:07You do your thing. It's honestly, it is a, it is a
- 47:09Co creation here. You're doing it together.
- 47:11There are women who are like, I cannot achieve orgasm with my
- 47:14partner. But can they achieve it alone?
- 47:17All the time. Oh great, I actually made a
- 47:19whole post about this. Great.
- 47:20Very recently. OK, what's the answer?
- 47:22So the answer is there's a lot of different stuff that is
- 47:25happening when you are alone versus with a partner.
- 47:28And honestly, I have lots of men that I work with as well who can
- 47:31achieve orgasm, achieve orgasm alone and not with a partner.
- 47:34And yes, Oh yes, a lot. And so the.
- 47:37Weirdos. No, I'm kidding.
- 47:42The the thing that I tell people is there's a few steps to this
- 47:46one. It's not to shame yourself or
- 47:48your partner. It is not either of y'alls
- 47:50faults. That never helps.
- 47:52Shame. Never.
- 47:52Helps. Shame never helps and it
- 47:53actually makes it so much worse. One thing that I encourage
- 47:56people to do is stop making orgasm the goal.
- 47:59Make pleasure the goal because when we are focused on trying to
- 48:03have an orgasm then the pressure goes up and we are less relaxed
- 48:08and to have an orgasm we actually have to be relaxed.
- 48:11So the thing that I want you to try and do is one try and copy
- 48:16paste as much as you can from your solo play to your partner
- 48:21play with the knowledge that your body is probably going to
- 48:24feel different, right? Like some women orgasm or
- 48:28masturbate like face down, stomach down, and they're like
- 48:33grinding on something, right? And that is not a very easy
- 48:37thing to copy paste into partnered play.
- 48:40And so sometimes when I encourage people to do is simply
- 48:43start by masturbating the way that you do and the way that you
- 48:46like and making yourself come while your partner is also there
- 48:49with you, stimulating you as well.
- 48:52Maybe they're just kissing you. Maybe they're talking to you,
- 48:55you know, just part of the play so that your brain and body can
- 48:58start to learn. Oh, this is possible.
- 49:00I can come. I can come with my mark.
- 49:03With somebody else? Yeah, exactly.
- 49:05And to just to recognize that like you're going to be thinking
- 49:09about a lot of other things when you're doing partner play rather
- 49:12than doing solo play. And another thing is to do
- 49:16mindful masturbation where you are essentially doing like a
- 49:19mindfulness body scan practice when you're masturbating.
- 49:24And if you generally watch porn when you masturbate, then this
- 49:28is going to be slightly more challenging only because you're
- 49:30focusing a little bit on the porn.
- 49:32So I encourage you to try and do like audio only porn for this or
- 49:36like turn the audio off and only do visual so that you can have a
- 49:38little less stimulation, so you can pay a little more attention
- 49:41to your body. But watching porn is not bad,
- 49:44but I want you to pay attention to are the physical sensations
- 49:46that are happening when you're doing solo play so that you can
- 49:49then replicate those physical sensations when you're doing
- 49:52partnered play. Yeah, it requires a little.
- 49:54That requires tires, tuning in and being aware of the
- 49:57sensations. And I think a lot of people have
- 50:00a hard time kind of tuning into what's happening in the body.
- 50:03It's extremely hard and it's also hard when you're doing
- 50:05partner play because you're often then wondering how your
- 50:07partner's doing, like are they getting off?
- 50:09Are they excited? There's a whole other dimension
- 50:12of worrying about the other person instead of focusing on
- 50:17your own physical the the sensations that are happening.
- 50:22There's a book, oh God, so many segways.
- 50:26There's a book by Diana Richardson and not the one taste
- 50:29orgasmic meditation person and she wrote a book called Slow
- 50:33Sex. Oh yes.
- 50:34Do you remember? This yes.
- 50:36I had a lover once who was like obsessed with slow sex.
- 50:38Yeah, yeah, it's a great. I love and and and this kind of
- 50:41segs segues really well into one of the topics that you wanted to
- 50:44talk about, which is like soft penis sex.
- 50:48But I also do want to go back to clitoral desensitization based
- 50:54on vibrator stuff and like having partners, you know,
- 50:58having an orgasm with your partner, but the slow sex, she
- 51:02says. Focus on your own pleasure.
- 51:05Let your partner focus on their own pleasure, but do it
- 51:08together. Yes, which I really love that.
- 51:10And, and it's actually a little counterintuitive because people
- 51:12are like, no, no, but I want to focus on their pleasure.
- 51:15I want to be a good lover. Right, right.
- 51:16But. What if you assumed that they
- 51:18were good and that you're good and then together?
- 51:21Yes. Even better.
- 51:22Yes, I wrote a sub stack called your partner's not responsible
- 51:25for your pleasure or something like that.
- 51:27And it is exactly that idea. And if we are able to come in
- 51:32with like our own agency around our own sexual pleasure,
- 51:37especially for vulva Havers who have been taught that our agency
- 51:41is like given away when we enter into bed, then we are able to
- 51:45reclaim our pleasure. And I think that's really
- 51:47important. Amen.
- 51:49Amen. No notes, thank.
- 51:53You. Thank you.
- 51:56Yeah, a couple different directions that we can go in.
- 51:59I do want to touch on, you know, people who can't get off without
- 52:04using pornography. Yeah, that is hard.
- 52:08I would encourage people not to like pathologize themselves
- 52:12around it. And it kind of like creates A
- 52:16neural pathway in your brain where you're like, I'm going to
- 52:19get off and I'm going to use porn to do it and.
- 52:22The deeper that is, the harder it is to experience to have a
- 52:25different experience. Yes, and so it's the same way.
- 52:28It's the same thing as if you didn't use porn, but you
- 52:30masturbated the exact same way, which you probably do using.
- 52:34Like let's say you have a Dick using your hand and Lube and the
- 52:37exact same sensations every single time since you were
- 52:40fucking 13, right? That's way harder to then come
- 52:44with a partner or to get off with a partner because they're
- 52:46not using their hand in the exact same way since.
- 52:49They have to come behind you, right, right, right.
- 52:52Exactly. Exactly.
- 52:52It's just fine. You could do that, yeah.
- 52:55But I think using porn every single time and then expecting
- 52:58your partner sex to feel the same is like setting yourself up
- 53:02for failure there. And so I would encourage you to
- 53:04just like extend the breadth of the way that you masturbate.
- 53:08Like you don't have to limit porn or you don't have to like
- 53:11change your porn use all together, but you might want to
- 53:13add in other ways of masturbating.
- 53:17Amen. Like try try without porn, yes?
- 53:21Try without porn. Try with just audio porn.
- 53:25Try in the dark. If you normally do with the
- 53:27lights on, try with a different hand position.
- 53:29Do it in the shower and the shower.
- 53:31Maybe you can record. Sometimes I record myself
- 53:33jerking off. Yeah.
- 53:35And then you can look at while it's recording, you can kind of
- 53:37look at yourself masturbating. Oh my God, It's actually kind of
- 53:40like recording your sets at the gym and then seeing like, oh,
- 53:43how is my form? You know, what's great about
- 53:46recording yourself masturbating is you can then show it to your
- 53:49partner and be like, hey, this is how I get off.
- 53:53And then you can replicate that as close as possible.
- 53:56I often encourage people to mutual masturbate so that they
- 54:00can kind of show and tell for them.
- 54:02But it can feel so, so vulnerable and intimate.
- 54:05And so if it feels easier to record yourself and then just be
- 54:08like, here, go watch this in the other room.
- 54:10Like that can also be a way. Too.
- 54:14I've just been putting them on. Only fans.
- 54:15Are you? No.
- 54:17I was going to say, your followers would be really
- 54:20excited. I would be rich, Yeah.
- 54:22I would be rich, Yeah. I mean, maybe you should do it.
- 54:25I could think about it. There's some things are private,
- 54:28you know, some things are private.
- 54:30Everything is public on the pod though.
- 54:32That's true, Yeah. OK, what about women who are
- 54:35used to having an orgasm or using a vibrator?
- 54:40It's actually not going to desensitize your clit.
- 54:43Your clit's not going to like stop feeling pleasure otherwise.
- 54:46It's the same idea though. If you're coming the exact same
- 54:50way every time, your brain and body are going to get used to
- 54:54that. And so it's about just adding in
- 54:56other ways to do it. I will say that like when I
- 55:00don't use pornography and I'm just like kind of vibing with my
- 55:03memories or my fantasies. My spank bank.
- 55:06Love a good spank thing. Extensive.
- 55:08At this point it usually takes a little bit longer.
- 55:13Yeah, which honestly is not a bad thing.
- 55:15It's not and I, it's like, OK, I'm going to like settle in here
- 55:17for the extended session. I also try because there's a lot
- 55:20of tension sometimes. Like you tense up because you
- 55:23want an orgasm, which is kind of counterproductive.
- 55:25Sometimes you want to relax, but I'm sorry, I'm always trying to
- 55:28relax like my pelvic floor and just like not tense up, not
- 55:32tense up. Usually orgasms are better, but
- 55:34it takes longer to like kind of. It's a slower ramp up to the
- 55:38point of no return. I think that's so important.
- 55:40Important though, because I think that's an easy thing for
- 55:43people to add in and also to ship their expectations, right?
- 55:46Like many people masturbate and they just do it kind of as
- 55:49quickly as possible. And I think it's so important to
- 55:52masturbate in different ways so that you when you have partnered
- 55:55sex, which usually takes a slower time, you are able to
- 55:59kind of flow in fat and not feel pressure to come or not feel
- 56:03like, Oh my God, I'm not feeling the same way that I'm
- 56:05masturbating because masturbation and partnered sex
- 56:08are going to feel different and that's OK.
- 56:10Yeah, OK, what about homies who would rather masturbate the
- 56:17pornography than have sex with their partners?
- 56:19I would look into whether it is important to you to have sex
- 56:24with your partner. I think it's important for the
- 56:26partner. It's important for the partner,
- 56:28but not who's. Who's not?
- 56:29Yeah, yeah, who's who's gooning in his, in his vape den and his
- 56:33gamer den, you know. Well, if that is, if it's not
- 56:37important to that dude generally, then I would
- 56:40encourage the partner of that dude to really investigate
- 56:44whether that is the kind of partner that they want to
- 56:46continue to invest in and to continue to work with.
- 56:50Because you just. You can't make someone change if
- 56:52they don't want to change. I think what happens is maybe in
- 56:55this hypothetical scenario is that like they have a good sex
- 56:59life, you know, both of them are into it.
- 57:01And then sort of that becomes less exciting and it gets
- 57:05replaced with pornography because it's like easier, it's
- 57:09quicker. It doesn't require, you know.
- 57:11It is. Yeah, it is easier.
- 57:13It's easier and it doesn't require another person.
- 57:15Yeah, I say that to my clients all the time.
- 57:16Often what I see in this scenario is not actually someone
- 57:20who's like, oh, the sex life has dropped off.
- 57:23It's become more like my partner's sex life has had a lot
- 57:26of pressure put onto it. Or maybe we're trying for a
- 57:29baby. Or maybe there's like, there's
- 57:31this added anxiety around it. And so like, doing masturbation
- 57:36with porn is so much easier and less pressure and less
- 57:39emotionally taxing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 57:41And so in those scenarios, often the person I am talking to wants
- 57:45to have a partner sex life back again.
- 57:48And So what we're working on is how to reintegrate that.
- 57:52It starts with acknowledging that, like, yeah, masturbating
- 57:55to porn on your own is always going to be easier and less
- 57:58emotionally taxing. Like, yeah, we know that, but
- 58:01that and, like, normalize that. And I'm never going to be like,
- 58:04Oh, yeah, actually having sex with your partner is like, so
- 58:07blah, blah, blah. Like, no, dude, yeah, it's
- 58:09always going to be easier to just fuck yourself alone.
- 58:12And if it is important to you to have partnered sex, like you are
- 58:16going to have to move through some of those more difficult
- 58:18moments of emotional labor and all the other good stuff to
- 58:23create that partnered sex life that you've been looking for.
- 58:26There's also the, the idea that like, if things aren't going
- 58:29well in your relationship, it's hard to have sex, right, because
- 58:34there's a lot of intimacy required And it's like you
- 58:36always have to like face the music.
- 58:38Yes. And so I can imagine that it's
- 58:40easier to just like lock yourself in your, in your
- 58:43bedroom until you get, get your needs taken care of rather than
- 58:46addressing all the issues that that might be getting in the way
- 58:49of wanting to connect romantically.
- 58:51And the real question is like, what kind of partnership do you
- 58:54want to have? What kind of partnered sex life
- 58:56do you want to have? And are you willing to do the
- 58:58work to get it? You know it's funny.
- 59:01What? That we we talk a lot when we
- 59:03talk in society there's like there's there's a lot of talk
- 59:07about libido discrepancy and how it's always assumed that it's
- 59:12the male partner who wants to have more sex, right but in my
- 59:16experience or from what I've been seeing or hearing it's
- 59:19usually the woman who wants to have more sex the.
- 59:22Vulva have her wanting to have more sex.
- 59:23I think it's like, but also as people get older, homies are
- 59:28going to, you know, testosterone is going to drop and female
- 59:32desire is going to keep. Yeah.
- 59:34I mean, I think it's also about like what kind of effort goes
- 59:40into a partner in sex life again, like I think that there's
- 59:42going to be some kind of desire discrepancy in whatever
- 59:45relationship you're in. Like even 2 gay men are going to
- 59:49have a desire discrepancy. Like no two people are exactly
- 59:53the same in how much they desire sex.
- 59:55And so it's about how do you work with that in your
- 59:58relationship, whether it's gone up or down for?
- 1:00:01By their person, and it likely will across the entire span of
- 1:00:06your relationship. I guess what I was trying to say
- 1:00:08is also like let's stop blaming women for being the low libido
- 1:00:12harder because it's not always true.
- 1:00:15Well, yeah, yeah, I think there there's no like 1 generalization
- 1:00:18you can make about desire discrepancy, but I people love
- 1:00:21to make them right Yeah and it definitely makes women with high
- 1:00:25desire feel bad. And so, women with high desire,
- 1:00:29there's nothing wrong with you if.
- 1:00:32Amen. Hold on.
- 1:00:33I got to go get water, OK? OK.
- 1:00:41Would you want to go through some of these questions?
- 1:00:42You pick one picture. Dealer's choice.
- 1:00:45OK, let's see, there's so many sweet ones.
- 1:00:50Okay, they were particularly good.
- 1:00:52Yeah, yeah, okay, So what? Some of these are going to be
- 1:00:55quick answers, but this one we kind of went over.
- 1:00:58This is from a vulva. Have our friends have 5 plus
- 1:01:01orgasms per sesh. How not to compare when I'm
- 1:01:04stoked to have one? What the fuck?
- 1:01:07Just be happy you're stoked. Right, if you're stoked to have
- 1:01:11one, fucking great. Like you do not need to have
- 1:01:13multiple orgasms if it's not if that's how your body works.
- 1:01:16Well, it's like, it's also like it's either keeping up with the
- 1:01:19Joneses, you know, or it's like comparison.
- 1:01:22Comparison is the thief of joy. Yes, it's it's all about having
- 1:01:25satisfying sex for you. If you have a great one orgasm.
- 1:01:29Like fuck yeah. Pumped.
- 1:01:32Yeah, that's more than most. Yeah, we love it.
- 1:01:36OK, hetero guy who loves butt stuff.
- 1:01:41How do we get women more comfortable?
- 1:01:44Great. Well, I hate to say you got to
- 1:01:48talk about it. I mean always.
- 1:01:50Got to talk. About it, definitely you don't
- 1:01:52want to go for the booty, any sort of booty play.
- 1:01:54Well, you're not going to get booty play if it's not coming up
- 1:01:58organically. Well, you can bring it up.
- 1:02:00No, no, but like like during like non verbally during sex if
- 1:02:05they're not touching your butt. I would say many straight women
- 1:02:10since they're a straight guy asking.
- 1:02:11Many straight women are not just going to go for some dudes ass.
- 1:02:14They're not going to go for some dudes ass, but also dudes.
- 1:02:18First of all, hygiene. Yes.
- 1:02:21You need the cleanest of. Asses.
- 1:02:23I would suggest, you know, clipping, shaving when you have
- 1:02:28a lot of hair, it's tough for the play.
- 1:02:31Oh, you don't have to, but I think it makes it easier.
- 1:02:35I used to shave my ass for a long time.
- 1:02:38I used to shave balls and ass. OK, because I really liked a lot
- 1:02:43of ass play. Great.
- 1:02:44Yeah. And so it's it's much more
- 1:02:46inviting. I think it is much more
- 1:02:48inviting. It's much more inviting.
- 1:02:49I stopped recently because like I'm, I don't know.
- 1:02:52Because you live in the Bay now. Because so no, I was living in
- 1:02:56the Bay then when when that happened.
- 1:02:57It's just like it's, it's a lot of upkeep.
- 1:02:59It's a lot of upkeep. I think you can do it just like
- 1:03:02before, you know you're going to have sex if you want.
- 1:03:05And I just think that it like it's helpful and it doesn't get
- 1:03:08Lube everywhere. Like Lube really sticks to a lot
- 1:03:12of hair. Well, you also don't need Lube
- 1:03:13if you're just doing it like mild.
- 1:03:15Butt play. Right, right, right.
- 1:03:16OK, so this. Guy loves butt stuff according
- 1:03:19to. This guy loves it, so yeah.
- 1:03:20So you probably use Lube. But this is, we're, we're
- 1:03:22talking about like reggae, regular people, not butt, butt
- 1:03:26sluts. Yeah.
- 1:03:27So trimming is a good idea. You use a Clipper, put a #3 on
- 1:03:31there or something and just kind of like thin the forest.
- 1:03:34Yeah, they make manscapers and they make.
- 1:03:36Manscapers so #1 #2 hygiene, clean, clean, clean.
- 1:03:40I think the fear with some hetero women is that like, it's
- 1:03:45dirty back there. It does not have to be dirty
- 1:03:48back there also like. It shouldn't.
- 1:03:49It shouldn't be dirty if you're. Doing full on like pegging,
- 1:03:54inserting things like there's always a potential that there
- 1:03:58will be yes, some poop yeah, and that's fine you.
- 1:04:01Can't keep knocking on poop's door expecting poop not to be
- 1:04:04home. Exactly.
- 1:04:05But generally if we're just doing like outer butt play or a
- 1:04:08little bit of light finger stuff or like rimming, it shouldn't.
- 1:04:11Yeah, there should not be any. Just wash your ass.
- 1:04:13Just wash your asshole. Number one.
- 1:04:15Number one, one, number two, clip your asshole #3 you're
- 1:04:20going to have to at some point talk about, talk about your
- 1:04:23asshole. Yeah, the three.
- 1:04:25Major. Points.
- 1:04:26I think an entry way is like, hey, can we like how do you feel
- 1:04:30about butt stuff? Yeah, yeah.
- 1:04:32Butt stuff, yes. Just that you could use those
- 1:04:35words exactly. Yeah.
- 1:04:37And I wonder, I mean, usually when someone says it to me, I
- 1:04:39say, like, for you or for me. And I would hope that whoever's
- 1:04:44on the receiving end of that says you can ask that question.
- 1:04:47Because if a man says to a woman, what do you think about
- 1:04:50butt stuff, she might automatically assume he's trying
- 1:04:52to have anal with her. Right, which is kind of probably
- 1:04:55a safe assumption. Yeah, often.
- 1:04:57But I think like, if this dude's trying to get his ass, you know,
- 1:05:01worked, then I think he can be like, you know, how do you feel
- 1:05:04about butt stuff? I'm into it.
- 1:05:07I'm into receiving it. He can just, you know, float
- 1:05:10that. I love, I love getting my ass
- 1:05:12played with. Yeah, I love getting my ass
- 1:05:14played with. I like the rimming.
- 1:05:15I like the outside part. A little finger inside during a
- 1:05:19blowjob or. And you could be like, it's not
- 1:05:21a necessity unless it is, then you should really only be dating
- 1:05:24women who are into it. But you could be like, I'm just,
- 1:05:26I'm just bringing up the conversation and do this with
- 1:05:29your clothes on before you are in bed, please.
- 1:05:33Easier. To way less vulnerable, you
- 1:05:35don't have to be doubly naked. Who's doubly Oh, oh, that's your
- 1:05:38double. Vulnerable.
- 1:05:39I mean that. Got it.
- 1:05:40That's good. Yeah, Yeah, we'll keep using it.
- 1:05:42But also how it's like so awkward if you're naked in bed
- 1:05:46and like your Dick's getting sucked and you're like, how
- 1:05:49about touching my ass? And then she's like.
- 1:05:51Yeah. When I do it before, it's like
- 1:05:53you're like, no, what's happening?
- 1:05:54Yeah, I think there's also a fear that like maybe some hetero
- 1:05:58women will think that that's a gay thing to do or that he might
- 1:06:01he might be like a little fruity.
- 1:06:03Well, I hope that those women understand that that is not what
- 1:06:07it is. And also if he is a little
- 1:06:09fruity, who gives a flying buck? Yeah, well, because then what
- 1:06:12does that mean? Maybe he'll leave me for a.
- 1:06:14Dude, I mean this is the patriarchy and
- 1:06:16heteronormativity. I would encourage then those men
- 1:06:19to not date those women right? And I would hope that they would
- 1:06:22be able to expand their view of what sexuality is.
- 1:06:26Yes, love it. Yeah, that's all I want is for
- 1:06:29people to be able to expand it. It's fun.
- 1:06:31It's playful. You're allowed to want to get
- 1:06:32your ass played with. Yeah, like and it doesn't mean
- 1:06:36you are a specific sexuality. Well, OK, so I've, I've had like
- 1:06:41a couple homosexual encounters in my life.
- 1:06:44I've dated some trans women, but I've had some threesomes with
- 1:06:47dudes. I blew a guy in college and some
- 1:06:52women will say, oh, homie is for sure gay.
- 1:06:55No, yeah, no straight guy would ever do any of those things.
- 1:06:59And I identify as pretty straight.
- 1:07:02Like I'm I'm a little fruity. Well, you're pretty straight
- 1:07:04because you know what the options are and.
- 1:07:07And I've tried them. You know what you like.
- 1:07:08I've tried them, yeah. Just knowing I mean I can be
- 1:07:12vegetarian and have eaten meat, no?
- 1:07:15In the A real vegetarian would not do that.
- 1:07:17Oh my. God, no, because I want to know,
- 1:07:19you know, I want to know what the.
- 1:07:20One that was that was my exact argument.
- 1:07:23Like oh, if I'm a vegetarian and I had meat once, am I no longer
- 1:07:27a vegetarian? You just understood what the
- 1:07:29options are and you're like, oh, actually being a vegetarian
- 1:07:31works for me. No one's fighting the
- 1:07:34vegetarians on that. Most vegans do not start vegan,
- 1:07:37OK, And no one's coming for them.
- 1:07:39Actually, they're all coming for vegans anyway.
- 1:07:41But. Yeah, vegans do your own thing.
- 1:07:43We love you. You're saving.
- 1:07:44You're literally saving the world.
- 1:07:46Yes, yes, thank you. And you're saving the chickpea
- 1:07:51industry. Big, big chickpea big.
- 1:07:55Tempe. Big, big soybean.
- 1:07:57Big soybean is, is alive as well.
- 1:07:59Yeah, I have gotten a little push back there and well.
- 1:08:02I assume then you stopped dating whoever gave you that.
- 1:08:05Push. No, no, I wasn't dating these
- 1:08:06people. Oh, God, yeah.
- 1:08:07No, they're, they're they're, you know, Internet.
- 1:08:09Getting their opinions on your sexuality.
- 1:08:11Yes, people love doing that on my Instagram.
- 1:08:14So dumb. They're allowed to though.
- 1:08:17You're allowed to you're. Right, more engagement.
- 1:08:18You're allowed to be wrong. That engagement is engagement.
- 1:08:24It's funny, I get a lot of like, oh, I thought he was straight.
- 1:08:26Oh, I thought he was gay. Oh, I thought he was bi.
- 1:08:27Oh, I thought he was. We would love you on the BI
- 1:08:30team. You're always welcome.
- 1:08:31I, you know, I've, I've, yeah, I don't know, presentation.
- 1:08:35I just don't want to make out with a guy.
- 1:08:38Yeah, I don't want to be romantic with a dude.
- 1:08:41Yeah, I don't even really want to.
- 1:08:42Think of sucking a Dick. I like sucking a Dick on a trans
- 1:08:46woman, OK? Yeah.
- 1:08:47Yeah, because I like femininity. I like the female form, but I'm
- 1:08:51also turned on by penis, but not when it's attached to a dude.
- 1:08:55Yeah, So it's like pretty, pretty margin.
- 1:08:58Like it's like, you know, it's a, it's a specific niche.
- 1:09:02Yeah, it's a specific niche. It can be.
- 1:09:05Served. It's it, it has been great.
- 1:09:10But yeah, dudes, I don't know. Like I've, I've had that couple
- 1:09:12of threesomes with another guy and, and a woman and like, I
- 1:09:15tried like blowing them or whatever.
- 1:09:17And I'm just like, well, first of all, it's a lot of work.
- 1:09:20It is a lot of. Work.
- 1:09:21It's way more work than eating pussy.
- 1:09:23The jaw. Really.
- 1:09:24Yeah. The jaw the like the it's
- 1:09:26active. It's I, I mean, I think eating
- 1:09:29pussy is pretty active. I thought there's less stuff in
- 1:09:32your mouth. First of all, there's you could.
- 1:09:34Yeah, it's easier. Well, I was going to say it's
- 1:09:36easier to breathe. Not necessarily, but no, it's
- 1:09:39less physical. Both can be very physical.
- 1:09:43Well, if you're incorporating other here's the thing with
- 1:09:48eating pussy. Your your mouth can be your head
- 1:09:51can be static, but your mouth is working.
- 1:09:54Yes, you're not usually doing this moving right, but with a
- 1:09:58blowjob, there's a lot of, you know.
- 1:10:01I just think the jaw like has to be so much bigger with a blowjob
- 1:10:05than it does eating pussy. It depends.
- 1:10:08Yeah, depends on the size of the penis.
- 1:10:10That's that's true. I encourage everyone to try
- 1:10:16both. Yeah, and it doesn't mean
- 1:10:17anything it. Doesn't mean anything.
- 1:10:19It means you tried. It means.
- 1:10:20You tried? Yeah, Just like being a
- 1:10:22vegetarian. Tell people that.
- 1:10:24I did wonder if I was gay for a while there because because I
- 1:10:27had experimented as a younger, as like a teenager.
- 1:10:29Yeah, I mean, I think that that is the messaging that most men
- 1:10:32especially get, yeah, That if you are even experimenting,
- 1:10:36you're gay. Because straight guys don't do
- 1:10:37that. They know.
- 1:10:39Right. I actually think it's so much
- 1:10:40hotter for everyone to have experimented and understand as
- 1:10:45long as you are being clear with the people that you are
- 1:10:47experimenting with that like you are learning something new about
- 1:10:50yourself and they are opting in to that scenario and you're not
- 1:10:53just like using them for your own experiment.
- 1:10:56Yeah, if you're like, bicurious, yeah.
- 1:10:58Well, I hooked up with this woman who was bicurious on
- 1:11:00field, and she said that it was shockingly difficult to find a
- 1:11:04woman to sleep with as a bicurious woman.
- 1:11:06Yeah, I think that. Lesbians are like, less
- 1:11:09interested in like coaching you. There's a lot of lesbian hate
- 1:11:15towards by women who, especially by women who are experimenting.
- 1:11:19By Curious, yeah. It's very unfortunate.
- 1:11:22Yeah, it's too bad. I mean, I like some of my
- 1:11:26favorite sex experiences were with lesbians who were.
- 1:11:30Yeah, I love that. Like so fun.
- 1:11:33I love that so much. So fun.
- 1:11:35It's, I think it's a lot of lesbians have been really burned
- 1:11:38by, by women who or like by curious women who are
- 1:11:42experimenting and then inevitably go back to a man.
- 1:11:45I think that that can feel really, really shitty.
- 1:11:47And so it makes sense that a lot of lesbians who have had this
- 1:11:49experiment experience or have had other women in their lives
- 1:11:55had this experience want to stay away from it.
- 1:11:57But I do think that there should be more emphasis on like, being
- 1:12:02inviting to buy curious women and them presenting people
- 1:12:08because I think otherwise, like, how are we supposed to
- 1:12:11understand what we like, where we fit in?
- 1:12:15And also I think it stops a lot of by women from coming out and
- 1:12:19claiming their queerness. I think it's very sad.
- 1:12:23But by women, you can experiment with each other.
- 1:12:25And and yes, that's true. And I have also, you know,
- 1:12:28that's right. Yeah.
- 1:12:29Two bi curious women together? Yes, that's what you filter for
- 1:12:33on fuel A. Lot of like learning.
- 1:12:35That would be the best scenario. I mean, it could.
- 1:12:38Be a little bit like a little clumsy, but you know what?
- 1:12:41We all got to store somewhere. I will say that when I had sex
- 1:12:44with with someone who had never had sex with a woman who had
- 1:12:47never had sex with a man before, she was a self clip proclaimed
- 1:12:50Gold Star lesbian. Oh.
- 1:12:52And then she gave away her gold. She gave me her Gold Star, I
- 1:12:54guess. Do I get it?
- 1:12:56I don't. I didn't want to assume.
- 1:12:58I don't want to assume that I got it.
- 1:12:59That's like, oh, it's mine now. Yeah, she's like, here you go.
- 1:13:03Not once did I assume that she would just be like Oh my God,
- 1:13:07Sean, you're the best. This is all I've ever wanted.
- 1:13:10I assumed experimental that's she would be going straight back
- 1:13:13to women after me. But there was just a one time
- 1:13:16deal. So you got to opt into it.
- 1:13:19And I think a lot of women especially are like, that's not
- 1:13:23what I'm looking for. It's just like a hookup, right?
- 1:13:25But if you are interested in it, then fucking like, make it
- 1:13:29known. And I hope that other people
- 1:13:31will receive that. She made it known.
- 1:13:33She reached out to me. She said hey, I've got did you?
- 1:13:35DM you on your. No, no, this was way before
- 1:13:37this. This is somebody that I used to
- 1:13:38know in San Francisco I love and she reached out and she she we
- 1:13:43had like friends in common and she goes hey, and we used to
- 1:13:46always flirt, but like it was totally clear.
- 1:13:48Yeah, and you were like this? She's a.
- 1:13:49Lesbian. She's a lesbian and I love for
- 1:13:51lesbians because yeah, exactly. So it's very like.
- 1:13:53Everyone should flirt more often overall, and it doesn't have to
- 1:13:56go anywhere beyond flirting. Except for I get called gay bait
- 1:13:59all the time because I like flirting with gay gay boys too.
- 1:14:03Anyway, she reached out, she goes.
- 1:14:05Hey, weird request but I would love to have sex with a man and
- 1:14:10I've identified you as someone who might a.
- 1:14:13Safe. Guy a safe guy to have sex with.
- 1:14:16Are you interested? I go, I think we should talk
- 1:14:17first. Yeah, let's sit together.
- 1:14:20And we talked and I go I'm super into it.
- 1:14:21But like, what are you looking to experience?
- 1:14:24What are your boundaries? We did like desire spheres and
- 1:14:27boundaries. She was like, OK, I want to like
- 1:14:30penetration and do not want to suck your Dick.
- 1:14:32Great. And I was like, great, thank you
- 1:14:34so much. And then during sex, she was
- 1:14:36like, actually, I really want to suck your Dick.
- 1:14:38I was like, wow, Also great. Are you?
- 1:14:40Flexible. Be clear about your interest.
- 1:14:44Yeah. What do you want to do after?
- 1:14:45Oh, I want like 10 minutes of cuddling and then like a shower
- 1:14:49or something. Yeah.
- 1:14:50That peak excellent sex behavior.
- 1:14:54Talking about aftercare before you have sex.
- 1:14:57Hard to remember to do. Hard to remember to do.
- 1:15:00And if you're having that negotiation, I mean, obviously
- 1:15:03that was a very clear specific negotiation, but it can be a
- 1:15:06great thing to bring it back to the beginning when you're asking
- 1:15:09about sleepover or not. You can also include like, even
- 1:15:13though we're not going to have a sleepover, I'd love to like make
- 1:15:15sure that I give you exactly what you need after we play.
- 1:15:18What would that look like? A.
- 1:15:19Sleepover. Well, that's going to take some
- 1:15:23negotiation, OK. We could, like, nap for 10
- 1:15:27minutes and then yeah, yeah. Shower citrus.
- 1:15:31Yeah, I'm gonna sleep citrus. We can have some some oranges
- 1:15:34together. And slices like after.
- 1:15:36Chocolate, yeah. Orange slices and like an igloo
- 1:15:38like Gatorade thing with a little yeah.
- 1:15:42It could pretty sun. It could be a shower, it could
- 1:15:44be puddling pillow top. I love a sexist survey.
- 1:15:49One of my past lovers gave this to me.
- 1:15:53Shout out to her. This was the best thing ever.
- 1:15:56You can go over. What did you love about the sex
- 1:15:59that you just had? What are you excited about the
- 1:16:02next time that you have sex? If you think there's going to be
- 1:16:05a next time, what do you want more of next time you have sex?
- 1:16:08And what also might not have worked for.
- 1:16:11You. Yeah.
- 1:16:11What do you want less of? Rose Thorn bug on the sex we
- 1:16:15just had. A sexist survey, everyone.
- 1:16:17We should have them. I'm a fan.
- 1:16:19I'm a fan of this exit survey. Love this exit survey Yeah, I've
- 1:16:23done them before. I don't do them all the time,
- 1:16:25but one more question, Yes, and then we'll wrap it up.
- 1:16:28I know you've got a busy day. I.
- 1:16:31Know. Clients.
- 1:16:32Clients. OK, hold on.
- 1:16:34Just a couple real quick. Fire quick.
- 1:16:36Necessary to give a new partner a heads up.
- 1:16:38That's squirting like a fire hose that I squirt like a fire
- 1:16:41hose, yes. Bring your own supply.
- 1:16:46Yeah, bring a freak sheet, bring a splash blanket, bring bring
- 1:16:49what? A puppy pad?
- 1:16:50Like yes, absolutely your fucking.
- 1:16:52Bag of tricks. 100% unless it's at your house.
- 1:16:59Then you should have it all. You've got the blanket all set
- 1:17:01up and you want to surprise them.
- 1:17:06I feel like that would be OK. I feel like you don't have to
- 1:17:09say. Yeah, you should surprise them
- 1:17:11and then be like, Oh my God, it's the first time.
- 1:17:13Oh my God, you so hot. Your Dick is amazing.
- 1:17:15You're amazing. That's hilarious.
- 1:17:19Don't actually do that. That would be funny.
- 1:17:20I mean, I think that's it's like that would be funny also.
- 1:17:23OK, you could also be like, sorry, just kidding.
- 1:17:26Like that happens a lot. Just kidding, your Dick isn't
- 1:17:29not. Good.
- 1:17:29So not necessary but like. I think probably, yeah, people
- 1:17:33probably want a heads up. I would be OK with being
- 1:17:36surprised for sure, but I would be pissed.
- 1:17:39I would be pissed if you were in my bed.
- 1:17:41I I would, yeah. I mean, you're going somewhere.
- 1:17:44You should definitely be clear that you're going to squirt
- 1:17:46because that might shift the bed set up.
- 1:17:48Yeah, because some people spend a lot of money on their bedding,
- 1:17:51yes. I would be very annoyed if
- 1:17:54someone squirted in my bed and I was not prepared for it.
- 1:17:56Yeah. Also, all of you, every single
- 1:17:59goddamn of you listeners, you need this is a requirement.
- 1:18:07A fucking waterproof mattress pad.
- 1:18:09Oh. To protect your investment.
- 1:18:12That's true. Period.
- 1:18:14Blood, Lube, squirt, all sorts of sweat.
- 1:18:18Come on. I mean I use the sex playing it.
- 1:18:21You don't have a waterproof mattress protector.
- 1:18:23No. Wow.
- 1:18:24Oh, OK. Oh, I'm already failing.
- 1:18:27Anyways, I think that's one of my non negotiables.
- 1:18:31It's a deal breaker. Oh shit, yeah, I travel with
- 1:18:35one. No, no, I'm kidding.
- 1:18:38I just think like, OK, one of my pet peeves is like a dirty ass
- 1:18:42stain. No, a stained mattress.
- 1:18:44Who? The fuck is?
- 1:18:45Looking at the actual, it's disgusting.
- 1:18:48Who? Is.
- 1:18:48What are you a name? When I'm changing sheets.
- 1:18:51When I'm changing my sheets and there's a big old wet spot.
- 1:18:55OK. I don't know.
- 1:18:56That's not happening to my mattress.
- 1:18:57Is your mattress pristine? It doesn't have one little spot.
- 1:19:00Pretty pristine. OK, well then we don't have a
- 1:19:02problem. Great.
- 1:19:04I'm back in the good graces everyone.
- 1:19:06I know you're all concerned there.
- 1:19:07We're about two minutes. OK, let's see if we have another
- 1:19:11like yes, no, that we can both agree on.
- 1:19:14My mom listens to all my podcasts.
- 1:19:16This one, I'm going to be going to have to give her a little.
- 1:19:19Why is this one more explicit than?
- 1:19:22No, I feel like it's more specific sex stuff like actual
- 1:19:26sex acts rather than. I'm willing to go there.
- 1:19:29I love it. I love it rather than talking
- 1:19:31about the idea of sex. This is what women talk about
- 1:19:35after sex. They talk about the specifics,
- 1:19:37the nitty gritties. Honestly I I am such a bad like
- 1:19:41biased version of this because I talk about this with literally
- 1:19:44everyone all the time. Do you identify as a woman?
- 1:19:46I do OK but. But not like with it's not only
- 1:19:49with other women like. Right, right.
- 1:19:50But. I'm talking to strangers.
- 1:19:52But generally speaking, what I've heard is the women will get
- 1:19:55into the nitty gritty down to like the degree curve of the
- 1:19:58penis that they have sex with. Guys, don't do that.
- 1:20:01Well, guys are missing out. We don't do that.
- 1:20:05They should be. Yeah, we should be, because
- 1:20:06that's how you all get better at sex is you got to be telling
- 1:20:10each other the tips and tricks. We're all great at it, so why
- 1:20:13would we meet? Perfect at sex.
- 1:20:15What's the point of we have other things to talk about?
- 1:20:18Great. Sports.
- 1:20:19Yeah. Business.
- 1:20:22Finances. Just some insight on men with
- 1:20:26low libido. Feels like all men but my
- 1:20:28boyfriend have high libido. Oh well, all people have
- 1:20:32different libidos. But but it is sort of the
- 1:20:35cultural expectation or the storyline and that's why they
- 1:20:39need to fuck all the women and their cheaters.
- 1:20:42And like, it's just it's, it's in their DNA.
- 1:20:44I think the thing other people need to understand too is that
- 1:20:47like libido is not just this ephemeral like comes from the
- 1:20:52groin type of shit. Like your desire is impacted by
- 1:20:57your stress level, by how connected you feel to your
- 1:20:59partner, by how blow did you feel, by how.
- 1:21:04Yeah, exactly. Like, and if you're in a season
- 1:21:08of like challenge in your life, your libido might go way down
- 1:21:12and that is fucking normal. And in the current state of the
- 1:21:15fucking world, your libido might be way down, which is also
- 1:21:18normal. There are things to do to like
- 1:21:22figure out how to kind of negotiate with your own desire
- 1:21:26and figure out what are some accelerators for your desire,
- 1:21:30and more importantly, what the brakes are for your desire and
- 1:21:33how to take those brakes off as much as possible.
- 1:21:35Shout out Emily Nagowski for making that.
- 1:21:38Come as you are. Yes, I was in my in my head.
- 1:21:41I was like, what's the name of the book?
- 1:21:42What's the book? You got it.
- 1:21:44Go, Emily. OK, a couple quick, quick fire
- 1:21:47because then we got to get you out of here.
- 1:21:49How to address wanting anal as a woman?
- 1:21:53I mean the same way that we had the discussion earlier.
- 1:21:55Hey baby, how do you feel about plowing my ass tonight?
- 1:21:59How do you feel about butt play? How do you feel about putting
- 1:22:04your Dick in my ass? Yeah, but also for everyone
- 1:22:07doing butt play where you're inserting something, please make
- 1:22:09sure that you are using a lot of Lube, that you are going slow to
- 1:22:13begin with, and that you are warming up with your fingers
- 1:22:17probably first. Or a butt plug or a butt plug.
- 1:22:19I love a butt plug because it's like static.
- 1:22:21Yeah. It lets the the butt just like
- 1:22:23relax. Yeah, there you can get like a
- 1:22:25series of butt plugs, small, medium, large, then you know,
- 1:22:30whatever. You can also train on your own
- 1:22:32like. Train on your own solo play.
- 1:22:33You can train while you're out doing grocery.
- 1:22:37Yes you can. Absolutely.
- 1:22:38If you are into that. You can have a little ponytail
- 1:22:41sticking out of it too if you want you.
- 1:22:43Can go to Folsom St. Fair and have a Unicorn tail.
- 1:22:45You can do all sorts of things. Yeah.
- 1:22:47Is that have you done that? Not a Folsom St.
- 1:22:49Fair, OK. There are some women who love
- 1:22:54anal. These are probably not the the
- 1:22:56women who are having a hard time addressing if they want anal.
- 1:23:00But like, also, there's, you know, you can just be like,
- 1:23:01yeah, I love, I love to get fucked.
- 1:23:04I'd love to get my ass fucked. And and just make sure they know
- 1:23:07how to fucking do it. Like it's.
- 1:23:11Not just like, oh, I would love to get my ass fucked.
- 1:23:12Like great. And now I'm just gonna fucking
- 1:23:14plow you. Like you have to do the warm up
- 1:23:17and they have to understand how to use their Dick in your ass
- 1:23:20and that like you might need to stop for a second and breathe
- 1:23:24while their Dick is getting inserted all the way.
- 1:23:27And that's totally normal. It the insertion part, unless
- 1:23:30you're like, you know, used to getting plowed back there is is
- 1:23:35going to take some time. It can take like 20 minutes,
- 1:23:38sure, like 30 minutes. Like it's not just a totally.
- 1:23:40Fine. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:23:41What's the rush? Sure, you use a lot.
- 1:23:43Of what else you doing? It's nothing.
- 1:23:45You have nothing else to do. You are just doing each other.
- 1:23:50Take your time how often is normal to get tested every
- 1:23:53partner. If they want.
- 1:23:55If you want. I think some general guidelines
- 1:23:59could be like every three months if you are having a lot of new
- 1:24:02partners every six months. You could say every three
- 1:24:05partner. Every three partners.
- 1:24:07Every five partner, every I like to get to, you can say I want to
- 1:24:11get tested after every new partner.
- 1:24:12Yeah, you can absolutely do that.
- 1:24:14Whatever you want. Yeah, it's, it's really up to
- 1:24:16you, as long as you understand what your results are and you
- 1:24:19have current results and your partner has current results.
- 1:24:23Great, but they were asking how often is normal.
- 1:24:25There is no normal. Never.
- 1:24:27Never is probably normal. Average is probably.
- 1:24:31Not enough? Yeah.
- 1:24:33Almost never, yeah, but that's not what we're going off of.
- 1:24:35Yeah, I mean, there's nothing hotter than being like, I was
- 1:24:38tested last month. Yeah, I've had two partners
- 1:24:40since then. My tests were whatever, blah,
- 1:24:42blah, blah. Yes, I love when I hear that.
- 1:24:44I also love that. Yeah, throw it on your field and
- 1:24:46you got me. You got me, girl.
- 1:24:47Especially for someone that has multiple sex partners at the
- 1:24:50same time or overlapping or whatever.
- 1:24:52Like get normally tested, get. Also, how risky is the sex?
- 1:24:57Right. If you're having condom sex, if
- 1:24:59you're using, let's say you're using condoms and there isn't,
- 1:25:02then you're not having oral, oral sex.
- 1:25:04Like, OK, you can maybe go longer, you know?
- 1:25:07It depends on your risk tolerance.
- 1:25:08It depends on your partner's risk tolerance.
- 1:25:12It it's really up to you. You can get tested whenever
- 1:25:15you'd like. If you're having sex with no
- 1:25:17condoms, with HI, with IV drug users, sex workers.
- 1:25:22You probably want to get tested a lot more.
- 1:25:24Often, yeah. You just want to know you want
- 1:25:26to have a current status update for people.
- 1:25:29Yeah, OK, one last one. OK, one quickie.
- 1:25:32Yeah. What do you think the breakdown
- 1:25:34is of men wanting casual sex compared to women?
- 1:25:39I think that ideally women actually want more casual sex.
- 1:25:44Like overall not more than men, but just more than they say.
- 1:25:47But I. Or more than they're having.
- 1:25:49More than they're having. But I think that in actuality it
- 1:25:53is so much more dangerous for women to be having casual sex,
- 1:25:57so they are having less of it. Yeah, the risks are the the
- 1:26:00risks and the consequences are so much.
- 1:26:01Higher, right. And so I think that like if
- 1:26:04we're talking about heterosexual people, right?
- 1:26:06And I think that men have less of a danger risk and so they
- 1:26:12have more casual sex. Dan Savage was saying that if
- 1:26:14women felt safer to have more casual sex and they, they, they,
- 1:26:18they would have much more. We we can't say how much more.
- 1:26:22But absolutely. But if there was the the like
- 1:26:24straight equivalent of a bath house.
- 1:26:26We. Women would go.
- 1:26:28Yeah, because we are constantly, we're not just assessing for
- 1:26:31sexual partnership or assessing for safety every single time we
- 1:26:35assess with anyone and. Which I don't have to, right?
- 1:26:39Even when I'm getting pegged, I don't really have.
- 1:26:41Fairy yoga woman, correct. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:26:45It's, it can be a physically dangerous, emotionally
- 1:26:49dangerous, sexually dangerous environment for us.
- 1:26:52And so all of those assessments can be really exhausting.
- 1:26:57And so women are having way less casual sex.
- 1:27:00But I I would encourage you, if you feel safe, to do what you
- 1:27:03want sexually. And that's a shame.
- 1:27:05Yeah, it is a shame. It's a shame.
- 1:27:07It's a shame. Wow, do we end on a high note.
- 1:27:10I don't know. That's OK, the whole thing was a
- 1:27:13high note. Yeah, the whole thing was a high
- 1:27:14note. OK, two questions.
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- 1:27:42OK, last question, what does love mean to you?
- 1:27:43Oh. My God, love means to me, I
- 1:27:47think, understanding, playfulness and consistency.
- 1:27:54Oh yeah. Thank you so much for all of
- 1:27:57your wisdom and your time and your playfulness and your
- 1:27:59consistency. Thank you so much for having me,
- 1:28:02I loved it. You're welcome.
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