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Kill Bill Vol 1 and 2 (2003, 2004) · Left of the Projector

• 0:00
  Evan: Uh yeah so i you know you've been on before i i i'm gonna record like the little
• 0:04
  Evan: intro thing later so i'm just gonna be just pretend like i just said all those
• 0:08
  Evan: things and i'll be like thanks for joining me libby and that's it cool.
• 0:12
  Libby: Thanks for having me oh.
• 0:14
  Evan: I guess i i was that was just my friend that
• 0:17
  Evan: was just my uh my uh telling you that but i i should just do it i swear to god
• 0:22
  Evan: the beginning of the every i've done this like over 100 times and like the first
• 0:26
  Evan: minute and the the last minute are always just very much like i don't know what
• 0:30
  Evan: to do now sit back in your seats get something to eat watch this movie don't look like you can see,
• 0:42
  Evan: thank you,
• 0:46
  Evan: all right well thank you for joining me today libby thank.
• 0:49
  Libby: You for having me.
• 0:50
  Evan: Yes of course so as i mentioned in the intro we're talking about the Kill Bill Volume 1 and Volume 2,
• 0:59
  Evan: single movie that was technically two movies, and I just learned today that
• 1:03
  Evan: the reason they split it up is because of Harvey Weinstein.
• 1:06
  Evan: What? Yeah, he said that the movie was too long, so he said,
• 1:10
  Evan: oh, why don't we just do two movies?
• 1:12
  Libby: I mean, it is like four hours.
• 1:15
  Evan: I know. It would have been ridiculous as one movie. I mean, let's face it.
• 1:18
  Libby: Imagine sitting in the theater for that whole thing. I mean,
• 1:20
  Libby: I fucking love the movie, but I don't know if I could sit in the theater about it.
• 1:24
  Evan: Yeah the first one is 111 minutes to an hour and 40 and the second one is 140
• 1:31
  Evan: minutes so two and a half yeah that'd be that's a big commitment i don't know
• 1:35
  Evan: if i'm committed enough titanic i've never seen titanic actually i think at this point i just either.
• 1:43
  Libby: I don't i don't know what you're talking about.
• 1:45
  Evan: Well at this point i'd say it's too late it's too late to see titanic but it's
• 1:51
  Evan: never too late. I guess that's true.
• 1:53
  Libby: But I mean, that's like one of the things in the movie. Anyway,
• 1:57
  Libby: you don't have to talk about Titanic.
• 1:58
  Evan: No, no. Yeah, no. But when I, when I, you, so we were talking about doing Kill
• 2:04
  Evan: Bill like a long time ago.
• 2:05
  Evan: You said it was like a, one of your favorites. I mean, what's your,
• 2:09
  Evan: did you see them in the theater? Did you have like a.
• 2:13
  Libby: So yeah, no, it just kind of like creeped into my life.
• 2:16
  Libby: Like I saw it in chunks, like when I, when it first came out,
• 2:19
  Libby: you know, and then I don't know what it was, but I just, it's like every time
• 2:25
  Libby: a man disappoints me, I watch the fucking movie.
• 2:29
  Libby: It is, it really, it really scratches that itch.
• 2:33
  Evan: Well, I mean.
• 2:34
  Libby: So that means I watch it like quarterly.
• 2:38
  Evan: Yeah well i mean it's uh it does definitely have that ultimate it's like the
• 2:43
  Evan: ultimate revenge movie i mean i can't think of the.
• 2:48
  Libby: Thing i love about it most is every female character is a strong female character
• 2:54
  Libby: like there's i i think there's one
• 2:56
  Libby: like sophie she's a little damsel and distressing like ish but otherwise.
• 3:03
  Evan: The lawyer you're talking about uh.
• 3:05
  Libby: Like sophie the one that gets like her arms and stuff chopped off.
• 3:09
  Evan: Yeah yeah she's like the lawyer or something like that i don't remember her yeah.
• 3:13
  Libby: I think like the assistant.
• 3:14
  Evan: Assistant yeah something like that.
• 3:16
  Libby: But she was like in with the crew like she was at the like the wedding massacre.
• 3:21
  Evan: Yeah you're right though every but otherwise.
• 3:23
  Libby: All all strong female characters they all kick ass i love that about the movie.
• 3:29
  Evan: Yeah it is true i mean even aside from with
• 3:31
  Evan: thurman you have for the people who may not have seen a
• 3:34
  Evan: while you have lucy lu who hadn't been in something
• 3:37
  Evan: in a while apparently it's like i was watching a something with
• 3:40
  Evan: tarantino how he ended up picking all the people apparently he picked
• 3:43
  Evan: vivica a fox because he was at a video
• 3:46
  Evan: store and saw a movie that she had been in a few years before and goes why haven't
• 3:50
  Evan: i seen her in anything she should be in in my movie and that was how she got
• 3:53
  Evan: pick to be in in this random yeah and the same thing with a bunch of the other
• 3:57
  Evan: ones like daryl hannah was randomly selected i don't remember the story for
• 4:02
  Evan: her she's brilliant yeah she is great i.
• 4:04
  Libby: Love her character in that.
• 4:05
  Evan: And michael madsen the guy who plays bud he sort
• 4:09
  Evan: of now i now i need to
• 4:12
  Evan: cut that whole part out because i'm like oh i have the story about all of them and i just forgot
• 4:15
  Evan: all of them but oh the the best one though is david caradine who plays you know
• 4:19
  Evan: the title character director bill yeah he they couldn't find anyone that would
• 4:24
  Evan: do it they wanted to get a bunch of different actors none of them wanted to
• 4:27
  Evan: learn how to do like martial arts but he already did know how to do martial
• 4:30
  Evan: arts from being in a bunch of you know movies in the 80s he.
• 4:33
  Libby: Doesn't really do anything martial like he.
• 4:36
  Evan: Doesn't really that's true he's like does he even have a fight at all well.
• 4:40
  Libby: Like at the end but it's like a quick little.
• 4:42
  Evan: Yeah he doesn't really do a whole lot it's more like him throwing some knives
• 4:45
  Evan: and shooting a gun a few times and yeah i guess that's true i don't know why
• 4:49
  Evan: they needed well anyway but he's great in it i mean everyone from top to bottom
• 4:53
  Evan: is pretty pretty awesome but i mean the the for anyone again who hasn't seen it the,
• 4:58
  Evan: First part of this, volume one, essentially, is you kind of get a very limited
• 5:04
  Evan: kind of backstory about Uma Thurman.
• 5:06
  Evan: You learn that she was just referred to as the bride.
• 5:09
  Evan: She gets shot, you know, during her wedding.
• 5:12
  Evan: And she begins her revenge tour. It kind of takes you back to when she was originally,
• 5:18
  Evan: you know, in the hospital after getting shot.
• 5:21
  Evan: And then you pretty much have about 30 to 40 minutes of this movie of the hour
• 5:25
  Evan: and 40 minutes of just a ridiculous fight scene where she kills, what, 88 people?
• 5:30
  Libby: Fuck yeah.
• 5:31
  Evan: Just murders people left and right.
• 5:36
  Libby: I heard during when she's massacring the crazy 88 or whatever,
• 5:42
  Libby: I heard that they had to put it in black and white because it was so much blood
• 5:46
  Libby: that it would have made the rating high.
• 5:47
  Evan: That's true. True.
• 5:48
  Libby: Yep.
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  Evan: I just saw that today too. They said there was too much gore that with the color
• 5:53
  Evan: would have just been too over the top.
• 5:56
  Libby: I would have been here for it, but that's whatever. Yeah.
• 5:59
  Evan: And the other thing I learned today too is so in that fight scene,
• 6:02
  Evan: there is no special effects at all.
• 6:05
  Evan: And to do the blood, which is crazy, it took them two months to film that one scene.
• 6:09
  Evan: And the blood was all packed inside of condoms, which is like the way they would
• 6:15
  Evan: do it in old Japanese samurai films, things like that.
• 6:19
  Evan: So that's how they got the use. I don't know. I saw the thing,
• 6:23
  Evan: something like 3,000 gallons of blood or something in the movie.
• 6:26
  Libby: Yeah i like when i like how if there becomes a
• 6:29
  Libby: swimming pool of blood that like somebody like
• 6:32
  Libby: falls in and it's like just blood mixed
• 6:35
  Libby: into like the fountain that was there but it looks like it's
• 6:38
  Libby: a swimming pool of blood uh it's just the the whole i love the whole movie and
• 6:43
  Libby: like i love the like the spray blood that like is pretty consistent through
• 6:49
  Libby: tarantino movies a lot of times because I know I've seen it in another one, or in Django Unchained.
• 6:56
  Evan: Yeah, there was that one. I think also in what's the one with all the Nazis?
• 7:01
  Evan: Inglourious Basterds, I think that has a couple scenes like that too. He loves the...
• 7:05
  Libby: Yeah, I like that blood spray, the way they do it.
• 7:09
  Libby: Like when Lucy Liu, she runs across the table and you don't even see her do
• 7:14
  Libby: it but all of a sudden, poof, the head is gone and then there's just blood spraying and,
• 7:20
  Libby: the line when she's like if any of you sons
• 7:23
  Libby: of bitches have anything else you want
• 7:26
  Libby: to say now's the fucking time and like the like the empowerment behind that
• 7:32
  Libby: statement like she's like standing on a conference table with a bunch of men
• 7:37
  Libby: and they're like at her feet and she's saying like now's the fucking and ready
• 7:42
  Libby: to cut their head off like i love it i love it.
• 7:44
  Evan: Yeah there is lots of yeah that goes back to all the like
• 7:47
  Evan: powerful you know women so but as far as like aside from like the plot of the
• 7:52
  Evan: movie i mean as i said you know the the first you learn that how she dies or
• 7:57
  Evan: how she gets shot you know with thurman's character the bride for the whole
• 8:01
  Evan: first movie they also don't say what her name is they just like bleep it out
• 8:04
  Evan: i don't know what was the reason for that even.
• 8:05
  Libby: Like halfway through the second.
• 8:06
  Evan: Yeah i guess that's true i don't know what the reason for keeping her name out
• 8:11
  Evan: of it i i guess well no i guess they do say it though right he just.
• 8:14
  Libby: Maybe he just wanted to get Uma Thurman into a schoolgirl.
• 8:16
  Evan: Costume.
• 8:17
  Libby: Just because he's Quentin Tarantino.
• 8:21
  Evan: Yeah, yeah. Well, I'll definitely get to the problematic Tarantino,
• 8:26
  Evan: which everyone from other, I've talked about a few other of his films,
• 8:31
  Evan: and he's got some issues.
• 8:33
  Evan: But the, so yeah, so they, you find out that she is shot, she's in the hospital,
• 8:37
  Evan: and she goes to Vivica Fox's house.
• 8:41
  Evan: house i think her name is the vernita green i think is they're all part of this
• 8:45
  Evan: sort of green they're all part of this sort of like you know basically a hit squad under bill yeah.
• 8:50
  Libby: And everybody's got like a snake
• 8:52
  Libby: name and she's mad that um b has black mamba she's like i should have.
• 8:58
  Evan: Been black mamba and she's just copperhead that's right that's right yeah copperhead
• 9:02
  Evan: and so she basically you know they do this kick-ass fight scene like the one
• 9:05
  Evan: sad thing is like the that Vivica
• 9:08
  Evan: Fox's kid is in the house when she does this, and it's sort of weird.
• 9:13
  Libby: Do you know...
• 9:14
  Libby: there's a lot of speculation and tarantino has
• 9:17
  Libby: said no a lot of times but like imagine a sequel
• 9:21
  Libby: to this where like the kids end up
• 9:24
  Libby: like they grow up and like you know b's older does l actually survive like like
• 9:30
  Libby: there's and like with uh bb she grows up you know like they get older so it
• 9:36
  Libby: could be a sequel later on but there was speculation that could happen but But
• 9:40
  Libby: Quentin Tarantino keeps saying like, that'll never happen. But it's so interesting.
• 9:44
  Evan: I've heard that where he joked, or maybe he in passing said,
• 9:47
  Evan: someone was like, oh, what if you did volume three?
• 9:49
  Evan: And it was, you know, your 10th film.
• 9:52
  Evan: And he said, oh, you know, maybe, but I doubt he'd do it. I doubt he would.
• 9:55
  Evan: He's not the kind of guy that would redo his shit.
• 9:58
  Libby: Didn't he say that like, he only had a certain number of movies that he ever
• 10:03
  Libby: wanted to do. And then he's hit that number. So he's not doing any more movies.
• 10:07
  Evan: Yeah, he has one left and he wants, and he was going to do one.
• 10:10
  Evan: It was all planned out and then he canceled it.
• 10:12
  Evan: And I think he should just stop doing that and just make movies and stop being such a bitch.
• 10:16
  Evan: It's like, you like making movies. Why do you have to, I guess his theory is,
• 10:20
  Evan: you know, eventually you start making crappy movies at the end of your career.
• 10:23
  Evan: So he just goes out on top. I don't know.
• 10:26
  Libby: Yeah.
• 10:27
  Evan: Tarantino's a weird guy.
• 10:28
  Libby: He's a weird guy. That's a good way to say it.
• 10:31
  Evan: Yeah. Yeah, and I guess I'll just at the top to talk about one of the two things
• 10:37
  Evan: that kind of cloud the movie is in the second film,
• 10:41
  Evan: volume two, there is a scene where Uma's driving down a road fast in a car and
• 10:47
  Evan: they wouldn't give her a stunt double.
• 10:50
  Evan: Apparently, they gave the stunt double the day off. The head of the stunt department wasn't there.
• 10:54
  Evan: Quentin Tarantino convinced her to do the stunt anyway, and she crashed the
• 10:58
  Evan: car into a tree and messed up her knee and some other things,
• 11:03
  Evan: and then didn't come out until...
• 11:06
  Evan: 10 years or 15 years later and he apologized released the footage and all this
• 11:09
  Evan: and she also was abused by harvey weinstein so she definitely she deserves some revenge,
• 11:19
  Evan: revenge in the movie yeah and she was like choked too.
• 11:22
  Libby: With a chain right like that was for real choking.
• 11:24
  Evan: Yes i don't know if she got as hurt as from doing that but i do know the the
• 11:29
  Evan: whole i mean crashing your car because they wouldn't get the stunt double like
• 11:32
  Evan: just so i don't so you're we We were talking about like the.
• 11:36
  Libby: Scene with Vivica A. Fox and like the daughter and stuff. Yeah, that is sad.
• 11:42
  Libby: But like, and one thing that bothered me is like, they say that she's four and
• 11:47
  Libby: she gets off the bus by herself.
• 11:49
  Libby: Like, I don't know. I guess it's hard to like nitpick consistency in this movie
• 11:56
  Libby: because there's a lot that's like you gotta, you know, just roll with. But yeah.
• 12:00
  Evan: Suspend her. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. That's true. I don't remember them saying
• 12:02
  Evan: she was four, but you think that she would be at minimum kindergarten, right?
• 12:05
  Libby: Well, four is like preschool age still.
• 12:07
  Evan: Five?
• 12:08
  Libby: And like, yeah.
• 12:09
  Evan: Yeah, that's pretty young.
• 12:10
  Libby: And they say she's four because that's the same age as Bebe.
• 12:14
  Evan: Right, right. Yeah, for anyone who doesn't know, Bebe is Uma Thurman's daughter
• 12:20
  Evan: who she was pregnant with when she's shot.
• 12:22
  Evan: And you think she believes that she dies, but we learn later that she's not dead.
• 12:29
  Evan: So I just spoiled it for everyone. But it's been 20 years.
• 12:32
  Libby: You should have seen it by now. Yeah, this is, like, there's...
• 12:35
  Evan: Sorry, everyone.
• 12:35
  Libby: There really shouldn't be spoiler warnings, because it's old enough.
• 12:41
  Evan: No, no. At this point, on this point, like, people have... Actually,
• 12:45
  Evan: someone once got mad at me because a guest spoiled a movie that wasn't the one we were talking about.
• 12:50
  Evan: He just randomly was like, oh, it's like this movie where this happened.
• 12:52
  Evan: And someone goes, oh, you shouldn't have kept that in.
• 12:55
  Evan: And I just didn't, I just forgot to cut it out. But I don't know.
• 12:58
  Evan: we're that whatever who gives a shit anyway but
• 13:01
  Evan: yeah the the um like yeah so you have
• 13:04
  Evan: the that's kind of the middle of the movie and then you have her is this when
• 13:10
  Evan: is it in the first is it the first movie where she's in she's in the hospital
• 13:14
  Evan: right and they show that like the guy with the pussy wagon who's basically bringing
• 13:17
  Evan: people into labor while she's in a coma for four years it's so fucked up one.
• 13:21
  Libby: Thing about that is like so she's being like raped the whole time that she's like in a coma, right?
• 13:27
  Libby: The way that they do not touch on any sort of trauma that she would have gotten
• 13:33
  Libby: during that, I mean, maybe she just, like, jammed it all in until the end and used it as fuel,
• 13:39
  Libby: but, like, how little that is addressed is very fucked up to me.
• 13:44
  Evan: I don't know why they needed... I don't know, I mean...
• 13:47
  Libby: I guess another layer of revenge.
• 13:49
  Evan: Because the way that.
• 13:51
  Libby: Like, she, like, kills him by, like, biting his face off, like, went you know.
• 13:57
  Evan: That's right and then the way.
• 13:58
  Libby: That like she kills the other guy like she like jams his head in the door he's
• 14:02
  Libby: like please stop hitting me.
• 14:07
  Evan: Yeah the and so and the other thing too that's pretty cool i mean i can't even
• 14:12
  Evan: i'm not even going to bother listing them all but there's probably something
• 14:14
  Evan: like 20 25 different movies that he references in different you know scenes
• 14:20
  Evan: and the way they're doing it but one the one that
• 14:22
  Evan: I was going to mention is when Uma Thurman wakes up from her coma is the same,
• 14:27
  Evan: uh thing that she did in pulp fiction when she gets the shroud of.
• 14:30
  Libby: Adrenaline from her overdose she like flies up so it's yeah so.
• 14:34
  Evan: That was a little.
• 14:34
  Libby: Homage to.
• 14:35
  Evan: That but there's so many clips from from you know shots from.
• 14:39
  Libby: It's so many again there's probably 20 or 25 different
• 14:42
  Libby: any original thoughts for like how scenes
• 14:45
  Libby: should like play out because it's so
• 14:48
  Libby: many references like i was watching on like
• 14:51
  Libby: one of the apps that like tells you all
• 14:53
  Libby: of like every little detail behind the the scenes or whatever and yeah and it
• 14:58
  Libby: was just every single one was this movie this and i shut it off because like
• 15:02
  Libby: i can't sit and read every single reference to the 800 different movies that
• 15:08
  Libby: he bit off to make this movie yeah.
• 15:11
  Evan: Like there's like the the scene too where um where what is uh daryl ellie driver
• 15:17
  Evan: her name's uh mountain snake i think was her no.
• 15:19
  Libby: I don't know which you know You know what? I don't know what snake, but yeah, L.
• 15:23
  Evan: Yeah, L. Driver. When she's dressed up in the nurse's outfit and she's walking
• 15:28
  Evan: down the hall whistling that very catchy tune, that's basically lifted from
• 15:33
  Evan: the movie Twisted Nerve.
• 15:35
  Evan: And then the needle part is from another movie I can't remember.
• 15:38
  Evan: Again, there's so many movies that are referenced.
• 15:40
  Libby: You remember in the early aughts how you had ringtones, like you would buy ringtones.
• 15:45
  Libby: The whistle was my ringtone.
• 15:48
  Libby: Even to this day, I have all Kill Bill sounds on my phone that it makes it.
• 15:54
  Evan: That that that whistle is such a i mean when i think of the the music or the
• 15:59
  Evan: soundtrack it's really good it's all done by rza too when but the uh sound that it makes.
• 16:04
  Libby: When b sees somebody that she's gonna fucking kill like one of the people on her revenge list.
• 16:10
  Evan: Oh i love.
• 16:11
  Libby: That like the siren sound it's awesome.
• 16:13
  Evan: That's also well it makes you.
• 16:15
  Libby: Like really revved like oh fuck yeah it's on like.
• 16:18
  Evan: Well the music is different i think it's like the the weird like where it kind
• 16:21
  Evan: of zooms in and out and it's got like a weird red tint to it or something.
• 16:25
  Evan: I think that happens when she walks into the club in the first movie.
• 16:28
  Evan: No? Or maybe it happens a few times.
• 16:31
  Libby: Every time she sees one of her intended targets.
• 16:34
  Evan: Got it. Okay. Yeah, that's right. Right. Yeah. That part is...
• 16:37
  Evan: That's such a cool... I mean, even if Quentin Tarantino is ripping off of 50
• 16:42
  Evan: other movies, at least it looks good Yeah, it comes together and it's fucking awesome.
• 16:45
  Libby: It's my favorite movie. Absolutely my favorite movie.
• 16:48
  Evan: And then so after she's in the hospital, we find out she's getting raped constantly.
• 16:54
  Evan: She kills them, she leave so it's it's like
• 16:57
  Evan: this whole shit with quentin tarantino the non-linear first you
• 17:00
  Evan: see how she gets shot and then you go to where
• 17:03
  Evan: she kills one of you know vivica fox and then it goes back again how she got
• 17:06
  Evan: the pussy wagon because i think she gets into the car and people like what the
• 17:10
  Evan: fuck why is she driving this ridiculous car and then you see the dudes uh you
• 17:15
  Evan: know the guy who's yeah and then and then they go to the then i think she goes
• 17:20
  Evan: to japan right she goes to get the
• 17:22
  Evan: hanzo sword which is first but they.
• 17:25
  Libby: Don't show it until second.
• 17:27
  Evan: That's right yep that's right she because they show the list and
• 17:30
  Evan: she's already crossed off but you don't know until i guess
• 17:33
  Evan: the end of the first movie that's when she kills yeah after
• 17:36
  Evan: the long drawn-out scene but the but what's crazy
• 17:39
  Evan: is the guy who plays uh hattori hanzo that he he is a the actor was like a legend
• 17:46
  Evan: in japanese movies and he actually did make like swords on the side so that
• 17:51
  Evan: was you know it wasn't and just oh they're just gonna throw throw this guy in
• 17:54
  Evan: here yeah he's uh like the the actor is um,
• 17:58
  Evan: uh sony chiba and also in true romance which is a movie i just did on the podcast
• 18:04
  Evan: in the very first scene they go to a movie theater and they're watching a sony
• 18:07
  Evan: chiba movie so he loves these he loves japanese well i guess he got to flex that muscle.
• 18:13
  Libby: A lot for this movie then you know like the,
• 18:17
  Libby: The scene with Bea and Oren when they're like facing off with like the,
• 18:22
  Libby: I mean, I don't understand how they have this winter scene behind that whole
• 18:27
  Libby: club, but that's besides the point.
• 18:29
  Libby: It's still so cool with like the fountain that like the water goes down and it's like,
• 18:33
  Libby: and then it like makes like a repetitive sound and the snow being so serene
• 18:40
  Libby: and they're like just like splattering blood across it. It's so cool.
• 18:45
  Evan: Yeah there's um yeah that scene is real i mean
• 18:47
  Evan: it's so crazy because you go from that black and white to like the white snow
• 18:53
  Evan: outside i mean maybe that was just the it looked cool i mean i don't know i
• 18:57
  Evan: don't know how much it snows in japan i don't know why they i mean again it
• 19:00
  Evan: looks pretty damn uh cool and then the guy too the guy who plays the head of
• 19:05
  Evan: the security gordon lau he also
• 19:07
  Evan: plays the um like the who's the name of their elite like the the master who
• 19:14
  Evan: teaches them in the second movie i'm blanking on his name right now yeah so
• 19:18
  Evan: he's played this it's the same actor oh wow.
• 19:20
  Libby: I didn't know that damn.
• 19:22
  Evan: Yeah he's also like a legend as far as um you
• 19:25
  Evan: know i think he did he was also in you
• 19:28
  Evan: know like the shaolin which is what you know the wu-tang clan used
• 19:31
  Evan: their thing after the 36 chamber he was
• 19:34
  Evan: in all those movies in the 80s so he's he like all the stuff he
• 19:37
  Evan: was doing was probably just straight up just he could do it he
• 19:39
  Evan: didn't have to no you have to teach him shit can you
• 19:42
  Evan: can you hear the thunder behind me oh it's it just started
• 19:45
  Evan: storming it's so loud i'm surprised you can't hear it maybe i
• 19:48
  Evan: maybe it'll be on my end but yeah the yeah so then they go to japan and he he
• 19:53
  Evan: you know she gets the sword which essentially is you know her murder weapon
• 19:57
  Evan: like that whole part too i mean i at first the first time i saw the movie i'm
• 20:00
  Evan: like why is she sitting in this random like sushi restaurant getting sushi and
• 20:04
  Evan: then the the owner is like arguing with,
• 20:07
  Evan: Hattori Hanzo like that part's also really funny he's like get him get him the
• 20:12
  Evan: water and all this shit and I don't know just every little scene of going up
• 20:16
  Evan: to the room seeing the swords convincing him to make the sword again and so
• 20:21
  Evan: this actually leads me to one of my questions like a couple of the like sort of,
• 20:25
  Evan: I don't want to call them philosophical questions but like the whole story is
• 20:29
  Evan: about revenge and do you think that like does Uma Thurman even though that That
• 20:33
  Evan: she's received all of this trauma.
• 20:35
  Evan: She was raped while in a coma. She was shot while she was pregnant in the head.
• 20:38
  Evan: All this fucked up stuff happens. But does she bear any responsibility for becoming
• 20:44
  Evan: basically a trained killer?
• 20:47
  Libby: You know, I think that... So at the end, right, with Bill, he's like,
• 20:53
  Libby: why didn't you ever tell me that Pai Mei taught you that five point...
• 20:59
  Libby: exploding heart trick or whatever um she's
• 21:03
  Libby: like because i'm a bad person so she like
• 21:06
  Libby: i think she knew and like before she was
• 21:10
  Libby: pregnant and she says like if this had if this
• 21:12
  Libby: was any other time when she's facing karen at the like hotel that she's staying
• 21:18
  Libby: in that she was gonna go and kill yeah whoever whatever um she's like any other
• 21:24
  Libby: time you would be right and she ran away she That was the whole point of her
• 21:28
  Libby: getting away, was to get out of the killer life.
• 21:31
  Libby: So she knew it was wrong. She knew it was shitty. But then when they shot her
• 21:36
  Libby: in the fucking head, she's like, well, now I got to go kill everybody.
• 21:38
  Evan: Yeah, that's true. I mean, she does openly admit, you know, you don't really
• 21:43
  Evan: get any information, I don't think, of her childhood.
• 21:47
  Evan: You do get some for some of the other, I think it's, what is it?
• 21:51
  Libby: O-Ren, they say her whole backstory.
• 21:54
  Evan: Yeah, for her, that was the cartoon, the anime they do for that is also pretty damn awesome, too.
• 22:02
  Evan: I guess, so for her, she knows what she's doing. She's also a person who's built
• 22:08
  Evan: on revenge, but again, it would be interesting to know what Uma Thurman's backstory
• 22:13
  Evan: is, which you never really...
• 22:15
  Evan: How does she end up getting mixed up with Bill? There's no real...
• 22:19
  Libby: So I have a theory of how she got mixed up with
• 22:22
  Libby: bill this is this is a big theory though okay and
• 22:26
  Libby: i tried looking that up on the internet no one else is talking
• 22:28
  Libby: about this but no no theory is too big no theories i think that this movie is
• 22:33
  Libby: actually about a polycule becoming unraveled okay so like it can draw a parallel
• 22:40
  Libby: to everything that would happen with everybody breaking up all right so i think
• 22:44
  Libby: that bill Bill and Bea were like,
• 22:47
  Libby: they had a hierarchy relationship and she was his primary partner and Elle didn't
• 22:55
  Libby: like that and Elle wanted to be the primary partner, so that's why they were rivals.
• 23:01
  Libby: I think Elle and Bill's brother, Bud,
• 23:05
  Libby: I think they were together and I say this
• 23:10
  Libby: with no evidence whatsoever all on
• 23:12
  Libby: vibes of what i think that like people like who
• 23:15
  Libby: they would be like i think that b and vivica a fox i think that they got together
• 23:21
  Libby: sometimes i think that um oren and bud got together and they're like an odd
• 23:30
  Libby: couple but i think that that makes sense um for.
• 23:34
  Libby: Only in my mind does it make sense but the
• 23:37
  Libby: way everybody breaks up no i mean it's bill bill
• 23:40
  Libby: is like the head guy right and then bill
• 23:44
  Libby: the bud the brother any like so
• 23:46
  Libby: it gets so complicated the way any polycule would and when um b like extricates
• 23:53
  Libby: herself from it everybody's mad at her so So everybody wants to make her a pariah
• 24:00
  Libby: if that was a polycule and not like a assassin gang.
• 24:04
  Libby: So like, yeah, that's just my theory that I've come up with.
• 24:10
  Libby: And Bill being like, I think he's like a Daddy Dom kink guy. Like, absolutely.
• 24:19
  Libby: Because that's how he comes across.
• 24:21
  Evan: I can see that.
• 24:21
  Libby: And even at the like, it ends up it's not a wedding.
• 24:26
  Libby: it's a wedding rehearsal and she's like this
• 24:28
  Libby: is my daddy like it like i it you know like there's a lot of that that was creepy
• 24:35
  Libby: with this theory that i just made up based on vibes and maybe i'm projecting
• 24:41
  Libby: shit onto it that may or may not have ever been part of my life well.
• 24:47
  Evan: Here's another thing that's weird i'm not this is not to like discount it but
• 24:51
  Evan: here's another thing i'm thinking You have Vivek A.
• 24:52
  Evan: Fox's character, when at the beginning of the movie, when she goes to kill her,
• 24:56
  Evan: when Bea goes to kill her, she's like now just a mother living, just living her life.
• 25:02
  Evan: She's basically what Uma Thurman wanted to have, right? She wanted to just.
• 25:06
  Evan: Have her kid, be married. But she was allowed to do that, right?
• 25:10
  Evan: She was allowed to leave the gang and be- Yeah, but she wasn't the primary partner.
• 25:13
  Libby: She was, you know- Right.
• 25:15
  Evan: That's exactly what I was going to say, is that she wasn't the top of the food
• 25:20
  Evan: chain, so Bill didn't really care. It wasn't really-
• 25:23
  Libby: And maybe she had remorse. Maybe she had genuine remorse.
• 25:27
  Libby: She was like, damn, Bill just shot my pregnant friend or my partner,
• 25:33
  Libby: former partner, whatever, if they had ever been together.
• 25:36
  Libby: She's like, damn, that's fucked up, and got extricated herself,
• 25:41
  Libby: but in a way that Bill wouldn't go kill her about. I don't know.
• 25:44
  Evan: They all seemed, I mean, they all, except for Bill, seemed remorseful for what they did.
• 25:49
  Libby: But especially, he's like, she deserves her revenge. Elle was like, no, fuck her.
• 25:54
  Libby: I think that Elle and Bea were bitter rivals, and Bea was always just ahead
• 25:59
  Libby: of her, and Elle was always very jealous of that.
• 26:02
  Evan: Yeah, that makes sense, especially in the fight scene in the second movie in
• 26:07
  Evan: Bud's trailer, which also is just a ridiculous fight scene, too.
• 26:12
  Evan: I love when they pull out the swords and they can't- When.
• 26:14
  Libby: She gets the spit in.
• 26:16
  Evan: Her.
• 26:18
  Libby: She throws it in her face. That makes me actually, it's shocking every time I watch that movie.
• 26:25
  Libby: And then when Bea squishes her eyeball under her feet, that's so unnecessary.
• 26:31
  Libby: Yeah, yeah. like if that like they have to make all the blood from the ridiculous
• 26:35
  Libby: like sword fight being black and white but they can show that eyeball squish.
• 26:40
  Evan: Yeah i actually that's like the one um like i can watch any kind of horror movie
• 26:45
  Evan: but actually like things with related to eyes i sometimes have to like look
• 26:49
  Evan: away because it just creeps me out and then the same thing in this i knew it
• 26:53
  Evan: was coming i'm like i can't look can't watch her squish it it's just it's one
• 26:56
  Evan: of those weird uh things but But yeah,
• 26:58
  Evan: the funniest part in that whole scene is when they pull out their samurai swords
• 27:03
  Evan: and the broom is so small they can't actually pull them out.
• 27:08
  Libby: Like, yeah, get them out.
• 27:10
  Evan: Yeah, there's so many little, there's so many gags and things throughout all
• 27:14
  Evan: of the different things.
• 27:15
  Evan: But yeah, I think you're right there. I think Bud is very immortal.
• 27:18
  Evan: He's like, I deserve to die for this.
• 27:20
  Libby: Yeah, even though he like fights it and like buries her or whatever.
• 27:24
  Libby: But she doesn't actually kill Bud.
• 27:27
  Libby: The black mamba snake kills Bud.
• 27:31
  Evan: That's right. Because of her own brother or her own sister.
• 27:34
  Libby: Because of Elle. Yeah, that like she puts it in there. but is it does it count
• 27:38
  Libby: though because it's a black.
• 27:40
  Evan: Mamba that kills.
• 27:41
  Libby: Him and b is a black mamba
• 27:44
  Libby: but another thing you know how l talks
• 27:47
  Libby: about like how uh like bite to
• 27:50
  Libby: the face is like the fastest way to die
• 27:53
  Libby: remember back in the hospital scene when she
• 27:56
  Libby: bites his face and he dies really quickly and then she like hits the guy on
• 28:01
  Libby: the head and he dies like having a seizure having paralysis the same way that
• 28:06
  Libby: they talk about in like that um l talks about in that um like essay she wrote
• 28:13
  Libby: about the black mamba snake.
• 28:14
  Evan: That's true that it's one of the funniest things when you're talking about the
• 28:17
  Evan: black mamba when l is in the trailer and she pulls out her little notebook and
• 28:21
  Evan: she's like reading it like because they didn't have wikipedia i guess they have
• 28:23
  Evan: wikipedia when the wikipedia come out i don't know but it's really funny i mean
• 28:27
  Evan: she's reading all the things she.
• 28:28
  Libby: Had to have used an encyclopedia for that one like way back then.
• 28:32
  Evan: Wonder when she.
• 28:33
  Libby: Had to go to the a library to write that i bet.
• 28:35
  Evan: Yeah that's probably true well it says wikipedia became a thing in 2001,
• 28:41
  Evan: but it doesn't seem like you could use like it wasn't the kind of thing you
• 28:45
  Evan: could just find all that's a baby right she probably did go to a library and
• 28:49
  Evan: like checked out a book or stole it or whatever that's that's almost comical
• 28:53
  Evan: to think of people using the dewey decibel system to find their books,
• 28:57
  Evan: which I go to the library still. You still got to use it.
• 29:00
  Libby: Yeah. I love her line when he's like, what do you feel?
• 29:07
  Libby: And she's like, regret that a bushwhacking scrub-
• 29:12
  Libby: elky redneck like you that she met her match by an elky scrub like you like
• 29:19
  Libby: i love that like i mean like he's half dead but like she's still talking to
• 29:23
  Libby: him like just dunking on him already like while he's got like a face full of
• 29:27
  Libby: venom it's awesome this whole movie it is it is crazy it is.
• 29:31
  Evan: Crazy that he was the one that was able to catch her only because she was underneath
• 29:35
  Evan: the you know she was kind of stupid in the way she was coming in she didn't
• 29:40
  Evan: think he would be sitting there with With a gun.
• 29:42
  Evan: Like, why not sneak in the back?
• 29:44
  Libby: And shoots rock salt at her. And she's, like, not, like, she doesn't,
• 29:48
  Libby: like, scream in pain. I mean, she's writhing in pain.
• 29:51
  Libby: And I like, one of my favorite lines from him, there was, like,
• 29:55
  Libby: he's, like, you know, that woman deserves her revenge.
• 29:58
  Libby: And, you know, he says all of that. But then he's, like, you're going under the ground tonight.
• 30:05
  Libby: And unless you want me to unload this whole goddamn can into your eyeball.
• 30:11
  Libby: I'm like, you make the smart choice here or whatever he says from there.
• 30:15
  Libby: But I, the whole goddamn can right in her eyeball. I love it.
• 30:20
  Evan: That is also one of, there's like so many crazy ways that people die in this movie.
• 30:26
  Evan: And I think she doesn't actually die by being buried alive, but that's actually
• 30:30
  Evan: like one of my like, you know, biggest fears would be to be buried alive.
• 30:34
  Evan: And when the, like the dirt's getting dropped on her and you,
• 30:38
  Evan: camera goes dark for i don't know five seconds before you know she you see her
• 30:43
  Evan: does she have a like she has a lighter or something it's or a flashlight yeah
• 30:47
  Evan: the flashlight it's so she's a flashlight.
• 30:49
  Libby: And you know that quentin tarantino made her put that flashlight in her mouth
• 30:54
  Libby: like a huge dick like she had it like holding it in her mouth for like a minute
• 30:58
  Libby: and then she like moves it onto her shoulder but like they made it very phallic
• 31:03
  Libby: like very much on absolutely had to would have been on purpose.
• 31:06
  Evan: Yeah and i don't think most of his stage direction from what i understand is
• 31:10
  Evan: all very intentional he doesn't you're like you're not really meant to improvise
• 31:14
  Evan: very much everything is very yeah he definitely put the flashlight in her mouth
• 31:18
  Evan: and that whole thing too i mean i i just love the you know the like the what's
• 31:23
  Evan: the word um the not centered not uh,
• 31:26
  Evan: so they show her in the in the they show her earlier doing the training where
• 31:31
  Evan: she's punching Punching the, you know, the board from only six inches away.
• 31:35
  Libby: Yeah, like it flashes to her hymen.
• 31:36
  Evan: Continuity. The continuity. That's the word I was looking for.
• 31:38
  Evan: Like the continuity of those two things that seem like completely irrelevant.
• 31:42
  Evan: I remember the first time I watched it in the theater, I'm like,
• 31:44
  Evan: why is she punching the thing like that? Like, what's the point of this punch?
• 31:48
  Evan: Like, when are you ever going to be that close to someone?
• 31:51
  Evan: I don't know. Yeah. And then she has to, and the part where she breaks free
• 31:54
  Evan: from the grave also is pulled from some movie. I forget which one now. Of course.
• 32:00
  Libby: I love when she gets to the diner and she sits down. She's like, a glass of water.
• 32:05
  Evan: Please.
• 32:06
  Libby: She's like covered in dirt.
• 32:09
  Evan: Oh, and they don't ask any questions. They're just like, okay.
• 32:14
  Evan: She doesn't have any money. She doesn't have, yeah, she can't buy anything else
• 32:17
  Evan: to drink. She just gets some, gets some.
• 32:20
  Evan: Yeah. I'm trying to think of the other things from, I guess we've talked about
• 32:23
  Evan: both movies, really, but, oh, I know what it was.
• 32:26
  Evan: So, like, so we, so that's the other thing, too, is that the,
• 32:29
  Evan: like, I read, this isn't like an original thought.
• 32:31
  Evan: I was looking into other people's articles and someone wrote like a long,
• 32:35
  Evan: I guess it's like an essay about, you know, that the movie blurs the lines between
• 32:40
  Evan: sort of like what's good and evil.
• 32:42
  Evan: And if you think about probably a lot of the people that their gang is killing
• 32:46
  Evan: are probably also bad people and killers, presumably a lot of the time.
• 32:50
  Evan: So they're kind of saying like, well, is it bad to kill another bad guy?
• 32:54
  Evan: And like, is, you know, be actually bad? Is she evil? Is she good? You know, is Bill evil?
• 33:01
  Libby: Yeah, I mean, everybody's just taking the money for killing people. They don't give a fuck.
• 33:04
  Evan: Yeah, for them, it's just a job, honestly.
• 33:08
  Evan: And I guess that's also the other part of this that brought up is,
• 33:12
  Evan: if Bill is considered or should be considered an anti-hero, do you hate him
• 33:18
  Evan: for all the horrible things he does?
• 33:19
  Evan: He literally shot his girlfriend or whatever, partner, poly partner, whatever you-
• 33:27
  Libby: His primary poly partner. His primary poly partner.
• 33:30
  Evan: Like in the head, assuming to kill her, then steals her- Very pregnant.
• 33:34
  Evan: Steals her unborn child, raises it, basically says like, mommy,
• 33:37
  Evan: we'll wake up sometime, which is also really weird.
• 33:40
  Evan: Like the kids, Bebe's sort of, when she sees him is also very-
• 33:45
  Evan: i don't know.
• 33:46
  Libby: Yeah no i hate bill the whole movie i.
• 33:49
  Evan: Don't know how you could.
• 33:50
  Libby: See him as i never see him in any other like aspect other than creepy old guy
• 33:56
  Libby: with a lot of money exploiting these like beautiful women i don't know yeah.
• 34:02
  Evan: For me it's kind of hard to see him as an anti-hero like i think of you know
• 34:06
  Evan: some people talk about like you know and walt and breaking bad and these other
• 34:09
  Evan: people where they're at some point there was some reason they did what they
• 34:13
  Evan: did and then they crossed the line and then they're kind of gone like i don't think you.
• 34:17
  Libby: Could ever say.
• 34:18
  Evan: At any point does he you don't know what his upbringing was but he they all go to this.
• 34:23
  Libby: Master to learn they tell you about esteban esteban who's like his father figure
• 34:28
  Libby: right and that would make sense for like him being like part of like a poly
• 34:33
  Libby: community is like not having like one partner like not being part of like a
• 34:39
  Libby: nuclear family and having that as like
• 34:42
  Libby: the example set for him so
• 34:45
  Libby: like esteban being like a pimp
• 34:48
  Libby: in and then having like the oh i forget
• 34:51
  Libby: the name of the boys it's something that like all his like illegitimate children
• 34:56
  Libby: from all of these prostitutes that he pimps um they end up having a gang and
• 35:02
  Libby: like upholding so like that's where bill grew up was with this esteban guy you
• 35:08
  Libby: know like that's his father figure yeah you.
• 35:10
  Evan: Know actually i learned today too is that scene was filmed in an actual brothel
• 35:15
  Evan: and those all the extras in it were actually people who worked in it.
• 35:18
  Libby: Oh wow which.
• 35:19
  Evan: Is sort of weird i don't know why they had to do it i mean it's very.
• 35:23
  Libby: What about the one like was she an actor just the people in the background the
• 35:28
  Libby: background people were yeah.
• 35:29
  Evan: The background i don't think the first.
• 35:30
  Libby: Person she talks the one with like how she got cut in the face no i think.
• 35:34
  Evan: That that's an actor and then all the other ones are people.
• 35:36
  Libby: Who work.
• 35:37
  Evan: There but yeah Yeah, that's right. He does have a, also growing up in that kind
• 35:40
  Evan: of situation, he already would be, like you said, he would already be used to
• 35:43
  Evan: some weird, you know, polycule type of lifestyle there. And,
• 35:49
  Evan: you know, he's teaching.
• 35:50
  Libby: Yeah, like that's how he grew up. That's what he knows.
• 35:53
  Evan: Man, this, like, you could probably write like a, you could probably write a book, you know.
• 35:57
  Libby: Yeah, no, like it's, there's so many through lines that like that makes sense.
• 36:02
  Libby: And I don't understand why no one else on the internet is talking about that.
• 36:05
  Evan: Yeah, I just Googled it, like you had said before. You think even someone on
• 36:09
  Evan: Reddit would have thought of this by now, right?
• 36:11
  Libby: Yeah, no, yeah. I didn't see it anywhere, but it makes so much sense.
• 36:17
  Libby: And the couples that you can extract what's actually going on,
• 36:24
  Libby: I mean, that's all just guessing.
• 36:27
  Evan: Yeah, that's true. Yeah.
• 36:29
  Evan: That's true. I mean, I'm not saying I don't buy this theory.
• 36:34
  Evan: I think it's very, very plausible.
• 36:36
  Evan: And given how you don't really know any information about how the other people
• 36:40
  Evan: grew up other than Lucy Liu's character, or Ren, you don't know.
• 36:44
  Evan: You know Bill, you know Lucy Liu, and everyone else, you don't know how Elle
• 36:48
  Evan: and Bud grew up. They seemed like...
• 36:51
  Libby: Well, Bud is Bill's brother. So I imagine that they had similar upbringing between Bud and Bill.
• 36:58
  Evan: I think I mistakenly said before that Elle and Bud... Wait, no.
• 37:02
  Libby: I think that Elle and Bud had a time together. I think that they've interacted in a romantic context.
• 37:10
  Evan: Yeah, and it probably ended poorly, given the fact that she's willing to kill him.
• 37:15
  Libby: Yeah, I think Elle... I love her character.
• 37:21
  Libby: She's like a bad guy, but you still root for her.
• 37:25
  Libby: and she doesn't actually they don't
• 37:28
  Libby: show her actually die she's just like left blind
• 37:32
  Libby: in like a trailer with a black mamba loose
• 37:35
  Libby: in it in the middle of the desert like what if
• 37:38
  Libby: she found a way because um she had called bill to say like oh bud is dead in
• 37:44
  Libby: his trailer what if bill sent somebody to go and like clean up the mess that
• 37:49
  Libby: like l left or um yeah that that supposedly bill had had killed him in his trailer
• 37:56
  Libby: and maybe she could have survived.
• 37:58
  Libby: Maybe she survived that thing. She's just blind now.
• 38:01
  Evan: Yeah. I would presume that she probably did survive. Well, I guess the idea
• 38:05
  Evan: is you figured that the snakes in the trailer would eventually get to her and
• 38:08
  Evan: bite her because she can't see shit.
• 38:11
  Evan: And the thing that's crazy too, apparently the, so Daryl Hannah,
• 38:14
  Evan: one of her first movies was Blade Runner from like the early eighties.
• 38:19
  Evan: And her, she plays like one of these replicants in it. And she has this scene
• 38:23
  Evan: where she's, you know, know, in pain and getting, I think, hurt.
• 38:27
  Evan: And so she apparently like used some of the same kind of, uh,
• 38:30
  Evan: I don't know what you would call them, uh.
• 38:33
  Evan: the screams of agony like from that movie from i guess it would have been 20 years like when.
• 38:41
  Libby: She's like screaming in.
• 38:42
  Evan: Pain at.
• 38:43
  Libby: The end oh.
• 38:45
  Evan: Yeah she uh that scene like every one of the i mean you it's easy to say that
• 38:50
  Evan: the fight scene in the first movie in the you know in the the create against
• 38:53
  Evan: crazy 88 is like the most epic fight scene but some of the other ones i think
• 38:57
  Evan: are almost more fun because that one just kind
• 39:00
  Evan: of over the top you know just beating everyone going down stairwells between.
• 39:05
  Libby: Volume one and volume two i like volume two better i.
• 39:08
  Evan: Like i.
• 39:09
  Libby: Like how it's more like it is giving you context she's like the under like getting
• 39:15
  Libby: out from underground in a grave like.
• 39:18
  Evan: Yeah they have they spend at least like with sorry bud having.
• 39:23
  Libby: To clean shitty water out of a stall and like getting yelled at by the cocaine
• 39:27
  Libby: guy like i i love it it's it's better it's not like i love one and two but between the two two is better.
• 39:34
  Evan: Yeah i agree well before i before i mentioned that so
• 39:37
  Evan: i also learned this today is that the scene where the like the owner of the
• 39:41
  Evan: strip club is like reprimanding him and he says like i you know in that fucking
• 39:46
  Evan: hat you like take off that fucking hat apparently that line was added later
• 39:50
  Evan: because he uh because um michael madsen wanted to wear that hat as part of his character.
• 39:57
  Evan: And Quentin Tarantino hated the hat, wanted him to not use it.
• 40:00
  Evan: And so he threw that line in to be like, I fucking hate your stupid hat.
• 40:05
  Evan: That's cool. Well, but I, but to the point of like the second one better, I think,
• 40:09
  Evan: I think the second movie is better. The first movie has that epic fight scene.
• 40:13
  Evan: But again, like you said, the second one has all the character development.
• 40:16
  Evan: You have scenes where Bill and Bea are just kind of sitting by the campfire.
• 40:20
  Evan: He's playing that weird flute thing.
• 40:22
  Evan: I don't know what it's called. Yeah. It's just all these little scenes where
• 40:25
  Evan: they explain their character, and they're just kind of more talking and less
• 40:31
  Evan: fighting. So I find it more interesting.
• 40:34
  Evan: If you're going to pick one to watch, I would watch the second one.
• 40:38
  Libby: I watch any, like I said, every time a man disappoints me, I watch that movie.
• 40:43
  Libby: I watch them both. I'll sit and watch it right through.
• 40:47
  Evan: Well, so you would. So maybe you would have sat through four hours and-
• 40:52
  Libby: Not in a movie theater.
• 40:53
  Evan: Yeah, that's true.
• 40:54
  Libby: I'll watch it in my bed for four hours while I run.
• 40:57
  Evan: That's true. That's a little better.
• 40:59
  Libby: Bad about a breakup.
• 41:01
  Evan: Yeah, that's true. That's a little bit more comfy than sitting in a sticky movie
• 41:05
  Evan: theater with eating $19 popcorn or something.
• 41:08
  Libby: Yeah, you can't go pee. You're in a mess part of the movie.
• 41:12
  Evan: That's one thing I hate in the movie is you have to go to the bathroom.
• 41:15
  Evan: I think there's some website where they, maybe it was just for certain movies,
• 41:19
  Evan: where they tell you the moment to go pee in a movie.
• 41:22
  Libby: Oh, damn.
• 41:23
  Evan: That's a good idea. I don't know if it's for every movie. I remember it was
• 41:25
  Evan: for a bunch of the Marvel movies that were super long. They're like at minute 64.
• 41:30
  Evan: Oh, you can go anytime during a Marvel movie. Yeah, those Avenger movies bore me to tears, but,
• 41:38
  Evan: Not to say I didn't see all of them.
• 41:40
  Libby: You can just go ahead and watch none of it.
• 41:43
  Evan: I want to see if that's actually true, if there's a website.
• 41:47
  Evan: Yep, it's called runp.com, the world's most indispensable movie app to tell
• 41:53
  Evan: you when to pee during a movie. So it's an app for your phone.
• 41:56
  Libby: Hell yeah.
• 41:56
  Evan: I wonder if you could press it to start when the movie starts,
• 42:00
  Evan: and then it would have an alarm go off being like, now's the time.
• 42:04
  Libby: Like, now's the time.
• 42:05
  Evan: Actually, wait. Wait, the picture on the website is a countdown timer to when
• 42:08
  Evan: you should go pee. Whoever created this app, I mean, deserves it.
• 42:13
  Libby: Genius.
• 42:13
  Evan: How do you even pick? Let's see. I'm going to type in Kill Bill. Kill Bill.
• 42:18
  Libby: It says don't go pee. Watch the whole thing.
• 42:22
  Evan: Can you, I don't know if you can actually do it from the website.
• 42:25
  Libby: Maybe, maybe it's a good idea to go pee during like when she's having the battle
• 42:30
  Libby: with the crazy 88 because that's kind of a long scene and it's like all the same.
• 42:34
  Evan: Yeah i mean there's some cool parts where she you know is dodging the like.
• 42:38
  Libby: They run on the banister and like.
• 42:40
  Evan: That part is pretty cool actually the scene where i think where they near the
• 42:43
  Evan: end of it when she gets to the top of the of the
• 42:46
  Evan: landing in one of the rooms and they have a really cool shot where it's blue
• 42:50
  Evan: and you can just see the shadows of them fighting also pulled from another movie
• 42:53
  Evan: but also really cool looking i mean yeah there's so much um yeah so many good
• 42:59
  Evan: um shots what was the other they had some other questions i was like yeah so So not an anti-hero.
• 43:04
  Evan: I guess this is kind of like, I feel like this is all like the same question
• 43:07
  Evan: asking, you know, too, is, well, here's the, actually, this is a separate question.
• 43:11
  Evan: This is a, why would Pai Mei train them knowing that they're using their,
• 43:18
  Evan: you know, the knowledge from him to just essentially be assassins?
• 43:22
  Evan: Don't you think he would have not done it unless they lied to him? How would he know?
• 43:27
  Libby: I mean, they say he's like 4,000 years old, right?
• 43:31
  Libby: And Bill says, like, you know, he gets lonely.
• 43:37
  Libby: What the fuck else is he doing?
• 43:39
  Evan: I know.
• 43:40
  Libby: It's not. And he's probably getting paid.
• 43:43
  Libby: I can't imagine that Bill doesn't, like, he doesn't say, like,
• 43:46
  Libby: you got to give me money. I mean, what's he going to spend his money on? He's got.
• 43:50
  Evan: That nice house and that's it, right?
• 43:52
  Libby: Lives like he lives like off grid well.
• 43:55
  Evan: He has that at the end of the second movie he does have that where does he live
• 43:58
  Evan: arizona i don't remember where he lives i forget but whatever it is he lives
• 44:03
  Evan: in that really oh mexico right he lives yeah you're right he does live off the
• 44:06
  Evan: grid in this beautiful place it probably cost you know a hundred thousand dollars
• 44:10
  Evan: because it's not you know who knows how the who built that and.
• 44:15
  Libby: He paid that off two thousand years ago like he's four thousand years old but
• 44:19
  Libby: like like they he says like there's like a legend about paimei.
• 44:23
  Evan: And that.
• 44:23
  Libby: Like with like the monk gave him like gave him a or didn't smile back at him
• 44:28
  Libby: or something and then he killed everybody at the monk place.
• 44:31
  Evan: So another funny actually so this actually reminds me of so in
• 44:34
  Evan: the movie the han hattori hanzo
• 44:37
  Evan: the guy played by sony chiba apparently at some point in it they mentioned he's
• 44:42
  Evan: like uh hattori hanzo 100 and the reason why they made that joke or that line
• 44:48
  Evan: was apparently Sonichiba was on some TV show where he would die or be gone and
• 44:53
  Evan: the next episode would return as like a different version of himself. Like,
• 44:58
  Evan: number 52 or whatever number the third the fifth and so there was just like
• 45:02
  Evan: the joke to call them like the hundredth because i have no idea how many episodes
• 45:07
  Evan: the show had but presumably like,
• 45:10
  Evan: that's the joke and so yeah there's lots of uh that's kind of a pointless fact
• 45:14
  Evan: but i do think it's funny that they all i know i love the scene where where
• 45:18
  Evan: uma thurman is training and he you know he throws the sword and it lands perfectly
• 45:24
  Evan: inside of its holster and the little uh thing on
• 45:27
  Evan: the side jumps on the jumps on the sword yeah it's just yeah the.
• 45:30
  Libby: One thing that one thing that bothers me and this is a
• 45:33
  Libby: continuity thing but um when they show uma
• 45:36
  Libby: therming uma thurman coming up the stairs holding the
• 45:40
  Libby: bucket of water her stick arms are so like not muscular the way that she would
• 45:46
  Libby: be training like for like they said it was like a year or two years or something
• 45:51
  Libby: if she's training that hard with paime that whole time there's no way that she
• 45:56
  Libby: wasn't getting jacked like i it's just not possible.
• 45:59
  Evan: Yeah that's that it is interesting that she doesn't have you know it's not like
• 46:03
  Evan: she doesn't have um like uh the arms from terminator 2 with um the fuck's her
• 46:10
  Evan: name oh sarah connor's arms.
• 46:12
  Libby: Oh her oh man i work out so hard i'll never get there.
• 46:16
  Evan: But like because you we did that we did that we discussed that movie like she
• 46:20
  Evan: has she's jacked in that movie It must have been a thing where she was learning
• 46:24
  Evan: martial arts and not lifting weights. I don't know.
• 46:28
  Libby: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know because I train MMA and my arms start getting jacked from that.
• 46:35
  Evan: Yeah.
• 46:35
  Libby: So it says, I don't know. And, and the move when she like, um,
• 46:40
  Libby: goes after O-Ren and she like hops
• 46:42
  Libby: up and she's holding herself up on the ceiling. That is so fucking hard.
• 46:47
  Libby: There's no way like I, I train hard and I could never hold myself up like that.
• 46:53
  Evan: I would imagine she, that was probably if, if it was someone actually doing
• 46:57
  Evan: that, it'd be like the stunt double.
• 46:59
  Evan: But so here's is what it says. So apparently she trained for...
• 47:02
  Evan: So she had just had her baby in real life.
• 47:05
  Evan: So they paused the movie for a year because Uma Thurman had a baby.
• 47:09
  Evan: And also Harvey Weinstein wanted to find a new person.
• 47:13
  Evan: Tarantino says, if you do that, I'm not going to make the movie.
• 47:15
  Evan: And so he's like, fine, we'll wait.
• 47:17
  Evan: And so after she had her baby for three to five months, for eight hours a day,
• 47:22
  Evan: Uma Thurman, Lucy Liu, Daryl Hannah, David Carradine spent eight hours per day
• 47:27
  Evan: just studying martial arts it doesn't say they were doing weights and things
• 47:31
  Evan: like that it was just simply like martial arts moves huh for eight hours a day
• 47:35
  Evan: for three months that's just i mean i assume you get paid for that shit but god damn for.
• 47:39
  Libby: Like for three months.
• 47:40
  Evan: Yeah i mean well that's that's the thing too you were i mean.
• 47:43
  Libby: You put in the hours you gotta know something.
• 47:45
  Evan: Well you were saying why did derrick david caradine have to spend three months
• 47:49
  Evan: doing that if he had like no fighting scenes in the movie yeah.
• 47:52
  Libby: Doesn't yeah maybe that maybe he had other their ideas and they just didn't come to fruition.
• 47:57
  Evan: That's true maybe he like he faked also he probably it probably would be cool
• 48:02
  Evan: i don't know if you're making millions of dollars on movies,
• 48:06
  Evan: i don't know what else you got to do yeah i don't know that'd be especially
• 48:10
  Evan: since they pay for all your training like this it reminds me of um maybe.
• 48:14
  Libby: It's a team building exercise.
• 48:15
  Evan: Yeah well it reminds to get like yeah oh to just do it all together what reminds
• 48:19
  Evan: me of like chris pratt how he went Went from not a lean, strong guy to doing
• 48:26
  Evan: – I remember once I saw his training regimen.
• 48:28
  Evan: It was something like six months of nine hours of training a day or something insane.
• 48:33
  Evan: He went from just a random dude to just being absolutely jacked.
• 48:37
  Libby: Like the singer from Mouse Rat to like – Yeah.
• 48:43
  Evan: It's like to Brad Pitt in Fight Club.
• 48:45
  Libby: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 48:47
  Evan: Yeah. Yeah, so that was the other thing I was writing down.
• 48:51
  Evan: What was some other thing I was going to mention about it?
• 48:55
  Evan: Yeah, I mean, I think it's, so apparently, so Uma, this is more like just a fact about the movie.
• 49:00
  Evan: Apparently, Uma Thurman, when they were making Pulp Fiction,
• 49:03
  Evan: was just sitting down with Quentin Tarantino.
• 49:05
  Evan: And they were just kind of like shooting the shit, you know,
• 49:07
  Evan: having other ideas. And that's when they came up with the movie.
• 49:10
  Libby: Yeah, they came up with this character idea.
• 49:12
  Evan: Yeah. And they're basically like, wouldn't it be cool if it was just,
• 49:15
  Evan: you know, this woman who's out for revenge, and then he apparently wrote some
• 49:20
  Evan: of the script, and then after Pulp Fiction, I guess, finished it or whatever, and,
• 49:25
  Evan: It's crazy to be like doing one movie and you're making another.
• 49:28
  Libby: I don't know that when they open the second movie and she's like in the car
• 49:33
  Libby: giving the backstory and she's like, and when I get to my destination, I'm gonna kill Bill.
• 49:40
  Libby: That's so fucking cool. Like it's it revs me up every time.
• 49:44
  Evan: I mean, he is so in Pulp Fiction, essentially a huge chunk of the movie is about revenge.
• 49:49
  Evan: I mean, the yeah, I mean, I'm trying to think of other for other Tarantino.
• 49:53
  Evan: I mean, the entire movie plot of Inglourious Basterds is essentially revenge,
• 49:58
  Evan: you know, against Nazis, you know, for- The Nazis. Yeah, like,
• 50:01
  Evan: fuck that. Yeah, you know, you could- Django.
• 50:03
  Libby: Unchained with that.
• 50:05
  Evan: You know? Yeah, is Grindhouse? I think actually Grindhouse is the only Tarantino
• 50:09
  Evan: movie I haven't seen, so I don't know.
• 50:11
  Libby: I haven't seen that one either. I gotta sit down. Yeah, I'll do that one.
• 50:14
  Evan: I think that's the only one. I was trying to see if that's the only one I haven't- because he has nine.
• 50:18
  Evan: Like, technically he has 10 movies, but this one counts as one,
• 50:22
  Evan: even though it's two parts. So he has Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction,
• 50:25
  Evan: Jackie Brown, The Kill Bill, Death Proof, and Glorious Bastards,
• 50:29
  Evan: Django Unchained, Hateful Eight, and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
• 50:32
  Evan: And actually, I love Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. That's another really good one.
• 50:36
  Libby: That's one I haven't seen. I should watch that.
• 50:38
  Evan: And that one's sort of like historical fiction-ish. Like there's people in it
• 50:44
  Evan: that are, you know, like...
• 50:45
  Libby: Does he really have like feet in every movie? because in kill bill like they
• 50:51
  Libby: have the scene where she's like wiggle your big toe.
• 50:54
  Evan: Yeah and.
• 50:55
  Libby: Like they show her like bunions.
• 50:56
  Evan: Every time every time i see one of those scenes like that it's i just kind of
• 51:00
  Evan: cringe a little bit being like oh really i'm in reservoir dogs there's no feet we.
• 51:07
  Libby: Don't need that quentin tarantino.
• 51:10
  Evan: Well pulp fiction's like the famous one where apparently the character uh when
• 51:15
  Evan: uh marcellus wallace kills um kills uh someone for giving his wife a foot massage
• 51:21
  Evan: like that's the plot in the movie right.
• 51:24
  Libby: That's right yeah.
• 51:26
  Evan: So and.
• 51:26
  Libby: Like they're talking about the like nuances of like how how intimate is a foot.
• 51:34
  Evan: Massage yeah yeah and like.
• 51:35
  Libby: Comparing it to like eating pussy well.
• 51:38
  Evan: Yeah that actually reminded me there's another what was that you You just said
• 51:42
  Evan: something. Oh, nevermind. It was a, it was a different, it's true.
• 51:45
  Evan: Romance is a different movie. Also written by current Quentin Tarantino.
• 51:48
  Evan: And there's some foot shit in that movie too. He just loves feet.
• 51:51
  Libby: Oh, I haven't.
• 51:52
  Evan: Oh, that's a, that's a really good, uh, it's not directed by Quentin Tarantino,
• 51:56
  Evan: but he wrote it to make money to sell to, he sold the script so he can make his first movie. Uh,
• 52:03
  Evan: reservoir dogs which is you know.
• 52:06
  Libby: Gosh i have i i my life
• 52:09
  Libby: if you think of a movie and like has libby
• 52:12
  Libby: seen this movie the answer is likely no and
• 52:16
  Libby: i have made it a point to watch movies that i definitely should have seen by
• 52:21
  Libby: this time in my life that i get on the treadmill i watch the movie and and following
• 52:28
  Libby: along to this podcast it makes it so i watch the fucking movies like i have never
• 52:33
  Libby: seen them i have heard of them but like didn't put it together well.
• 52:37
  Evan: I mean i mean there's it's funny like i obviously watch
• 52:40
  Evan: movies for this show usually it's movies i've seen not every time but then there's
• 52:45
  Evan: tons of movies that i watch them like you know i watch it it's a movie that
• 52:49
  Evan: came out you know in the 90s or 80s that i haven't seen so there's there's just
• 52:53
  Evan: so many fucking movies i mean to you can't can't.
• 52:57
  Libby: See yeah i used to be like picky about it now i'm just like oh Oh,
• 53:00
  Libby: Fried Green Tomatoes. All right. Well, now I'm crying on the treadmill.
• 53:04
  Evan: I haven't seen that movie in a long time.
• 53:06
  Libby: Yeah. That one, I did really enjoy that movie.
• 53:10
  Libby: It's a couple of gal pals that they had to have coded. It's very sweet.
• 53:15
  Evan: Yeah. I don't know if I've seen that movie, but not for ages.
• 53:19
  Evan: Yeah. I mean, it's funny. I think I tell you, I'm like, oh, these are the movies
• 53:22
  Evan: I have coming up for episodes.
• 53:24
  Evan: You're like, oh, well, I got to go watch those movies.
• 53:26
  Libby: Yeah. Well, and then I'm like, okay, these are the movies I'm going to watch
• 53:28
  Libby: on the treadmill all this week. That's how I do it. Otherwise,
• 53:32
  Libby: I'd never pick out the movies for myself.
• 53:34
  Evan: Well, I mean, in general, I used to have the hardest time. I mean,
• 53:37
  Evan: this is probably speaking to like the streaming era of, you know,
• 53:41
  Evan: like you're sitting down, you know, with your wife, your friend,
• 53:44
  Evan: you're like, oh, I'm going to watch a movie now.
• 53:45
  Evan: And then you spend 45 minutes clicking through like seven different apps.
• 53:49
  Evan: You're like, well, we spent too much time doing that.
• 53:51
  Evan: We're not going to watch a movie. But now I've like collected a list of movies
• 53:54
  Evan: movies that i want to watch and so it's easier at least to pick a movie i used to be very much uh,
• 54:00
  Evan: having a hard time picking now i'm just like well i gotta watch a movie for
• 54:03
  Evan: the podcast i'm gonna do and then i'll just watch
• 54:06
  Evan: a movie for fun separately or you know well i guess oh yeah i won't announce
• 54:09
  Evan: it here i guess i could cut i'll send it to you after i was just gonna think
• 54:12
  Evan: i was just thinking of the movies that i'm doing in the near future that i'll
• 54:16
  Evan: i can share with you offline i want anyone to no one can uh i guess who gives
• 54:22
  Evan: a shit if people know what movies are coming out I don't know.
• 54:26
  Libby: You got to keep it exclusive.
• 54:27
  Evan: Well, I mean, it doesn't, I mean, if people, they see the movie posted,
• 54:31
  Evan: that's always a thing I always wonder is, it's impossible to know.
• 54:36
  Libby: I like to have seen the movie before I listened to the episode so that there's no spoiler.
• 54:42
  Evan: That's the thing I always wonder is, would people listen to a movie they've
• 54:47
  Evan: not seen knowing that they're going to obviously know what happens?
• 54:53
  Libby: No, I never do. I never do that. Yeah, I only listen if I've seen the movie.
• 54:58
  Libby: Sometimes if I haven't seen it in a long time, it's fun to listen to it and
• 55:02
  Libby: kind of re-watch the movie without actually watching it and listening to other
• 55:07
  Libby: people's commentary on it. It's kind of cool.
• 55:10
  Evan: I find I've listened to some other movie podcasts and some of the ones I do,
• 55:14
  Evan: if it's a movie that I just don't think I'm ever going to see,
• 55:16
  Evan: like, oh, yeah, I've heard of that movie.
• 55:18
  Evan: I probably don't really want to see it. Then I don't care if it gets spoiled
• 55:21
  Evan: for me, you know, or if it's a movie that I want to watch. And I'm like,
• 55:25
  Evan: oh, there's another podcast that I like. They've been on this show, The Concessions.
• 55:29
  Evan: And they do, you know, movies that I haven't seen or whatever.
• 55:33
  Evan: It's like, oh, you did this movie. Now I got to watch it and then listen to
• 55:37
  Evan: it. So I understand the, understand it.
• 55:40
  Evan: But I'm trying to think if there's anything from the movies.
• 55:42
  Evan: I don't like have any other.
• 55:45
  Evan: So here's, so this, this happened recently with another podcast episode.
• 55:49
  Evan: Like when you think about this movie from a leftist, like perspective,
• 55:53
  Evan: I don't really, I don't, I don't, I don't know. I don't see much.
• 55:59
  Evan: I mean, we haven't even really, like we've gone to minute.
• 56:03
  Libby: Yeah, there's not, there's not like, I mean, I guess they're getting paid vast
• 56:07
  Libby: sums of money and B gives up the money to go live a humble little life,
• 56:14
  Libby: like, and being a working class
• 56:17
  Libby: mom with this like dumb guy from a record store. well then at the very.
• 56:21
  Evan: End of the whole thing when she runs away with her daughter i mean she has no
• 56:25
  Evan: money right like she's broke she's they're staying in like a little motel.
• 56:29
  Libby: Yeah i don't know i imagine that she
• 56:32
  Libby: knew where a suitcase full of money at bill's house would be she'd saved like
• 56:36
  Libby: she's got the sword she could pawn this she could she i'm certain she could
• 56:40
  Libby: find somewhere to be do you know what though like this isn't on the leftist
• 56:45
  Libby: perspective topic but the scene at the very end where she's,
• 56:49
  Libby: like, on the floor crying,
• 56:50
  Libby: like, escaping with her daughter.
• 56:52
  Libby: She's, like, laugh-crying and, like...
• 56:57
  Libby: that hard relate to that
• 57:00
  Libby: bathroom floor cry laugh of
• 57:04
  Libby: like my whole like this overwhelm everything
• 57:07
  Libby: has come to fruition i am like i got my daughter back everybody's dead that
• 57:13
  Libby: i wanted to be dead and then maybe that's her processing like she's finally
• 57:18
  Libby: able to like address her getting raped for years while she was in a coma like
• 57:22
  Libby: um like emotionally at that point where it just like Like,
• 57:26
  Libby: she's, like, crying on the bathroom floor.
• 57:29
  Libby: If there's anything to relate to in life is that bathroom floor,
• 57:34
  Libby: fetal position, laugh, cry. It's absolutely, yeah.
• 57:39
  Evan: I was going to say, like, not much of the movie is sort of relatable except
• 57:43
  Evan: for, you know, like, her trauma and then specifically, you know,
• 57:47
  Evan: the relief of, like, it being over.
• 57:48
  Evan: But then now she has to actually come to terms with the fact that she may not
• 57:53
  Evan: realize how many times she had been raped while she was in a coma,
• 57:56
  Evan: but she had some fucked up stuff. She was buried alive.
• 58:00
  Evan: I mean, her therapist is going to have a lot to talk about.
• 58:05
  Evan: But yeah.
• 58:06
  Libby: And then she's going to parent through it to this child who's a stranger to her.
• 58:11
  Evan: Yeah, but it's weird, though. Even though she was a stranger to her,
• 58:14
  Evan: it seemed like at least the only thing that Bill did that was probably kind,
• 58:19
  Evan: it seemed like he talked good about her while the whole time to essentially
• 58:25
  Evan: be like, we know when she comes.
• 58:28
  Libby: It was kind of cool too, the conversation that Bill and Bea had,
• 58:35
  Libby: that it was like they both...
• 58:38
  Libby: Had the same amount of anger for each other, the same amount of forgiveness,
• 58:43
  Libby: and the same amount of acceptance that one of them needed to die that night.
• 58:48
  Libby: Like, they came together as emotional equals at that point.
• 58:53
  Evan: Yeah, that's true. That whole conversation, whether, you know,
• 58:58
  Evan: in his apartment or, what is it, house, whatever it is, is pretty...
• 59:03
  Libby: When he shoots her with the truth serum shit that he made?
• 59:06
  Evan: Yeah, that's, yeah, right. I forgot about that. Doesn't he also tell a story about Superman, right?
• 59:13
  Libby: Yeah, so like how Spider-Man has to put the costume on to become Spider-Man,
• 59:20
  Libby: but Superman has to take the costume off to be Superman.
• 59:24
  Evan: Yes, that's right. I had the script open before and I was going to mention that
• 59:29
  Evan: part, but for some reason the one that I chose was not searchable, so I couldn't pull it up.
• 59:34
  Evan: Oh yeah, I think he also says Batman is... Yeah, right. Right.
• 59:37
  Evan: So he says, yeah, it's kind of a stupid scene where he's like,
• 59:44
  Evan: oh, I'm really keen on comic books, especially superheroes.
• 59:46
  Evan: And then he's talking about them. It's very kind of-
• 59:49
  Libby: Until the truth serum.
• 59:51
  Evan: Kicks in. Right. That's what he's doing. I think he also was joking about how
• 59:54
  Evan: Clark Kent wears glasses and the business suit, and that's his costume.
• 59:59
  Evan: He does it to blend in.
• 1:00:02
  Libby: That is.
• 1:00:03
  Evan: Actually an interesting little- you know take.
• 1:00:06
  Libby: On that calling.
• 1:00:07
  Evan: You a killer like she you know is you know she is a natural born killer like
• 1:00:12
  Evan: he's she she recognized that she's actually as you said before she is a terrible
• 1:00:17
  Evan: person she's made horrible decisions in her life and now she can decide to you know not do that.
• 1:00:23
  Libby: Imagine having all of that shit become your biggest turning point in life all
• 1:00:28
  Libby: of the shit leading up to that to make her be like all right i gotta settle
• 1:00:32
  Libby: down and get my act together here after being like a bathroom floor cry and
• 1:00:36
  Libby: live a good life after this yeah.
• 1:00:39
  Evan: Actually now that i think about it remember she she goes to japan she flies
• 1:00:43
  Evan: to japan and like stays there so she had money my guess is she must have like
• 1:00:47
  Evan: an offshore account or something where she has money.
• 1:00:49
  Libby: Yeah oh one thing the
• 1:00:52
  Libby: yellow suit in japan i i
• 1:00:57
  Libby: wish that i could i have tried to
• 1:01:00
  Libby: put together that costume in the past like I love that
• 1:01:03
  Libby: get up and I got like yellow leggings
• 1:01:06
  Libby: I got a blonde wig I got like a yellow vest thing and I put it all on and I
• 1:01:12
  Libby: looked in the mirror and I just looked like Britney Spears with camel toe like
• 1:01:16
  Libby: I did not look like Uma Thurman in the yellow suit and I I really I have I'll
• 1:01:22
  Libby: have to like sit and like actually sew it with like a pattern,
• 1:01:26
  Libby: and make it but that that is it's the coolest get up and like with the sword
• 1:01:32
  Libby: she's got the shoes and the matching like crotch rocket motorcycle with the helmet it's awesome.
• 1:01:39
  Evan: Yeah well i think the the yellow suit is what um bruce lee wore in um i think
• 1:01:45
  Evan: it's in the last dragon or one of those movies so it's like another homage to
• 1:01:49
  Evan: that but i also love when she when she walks Walks into the restaurant or the bar or whatever,
• 1:01:55
  Evan: and the dance floor is clear,
• 1:01:57
  Evan: so you can see from underneath her walking across,
• 1:02:01
  Evan: and that's just a fucking cool shot. I love that. I love that.
• 1:02:04
  Libby: Yeah. There's so much cool shit in this movie that, like, you know,
• 1:02:08
  Libby: Quentin Tarantino, he's a weirdo, but it's made up for with cool shit in the movie.
• 1:02:13
  Evan: Yeah, that is one thing. I mean, it's one of those, like, you know,
• 1:02:17
  Evan: you can separate his probably shitty politics, he's a Zionist and,
• 1:02:21
  Evan: you know, piece of shit kind of person in real life, but he makes good art, you know?
• 1:02:27
  Libby: I know um gogo the girl assassin
• 1:02:31
  Libby: like um oren's like uh
• 1:02:34
  Libby: bodyguard like the little child who's like 19 or
• 1:02:37
  Libby: something like that it it's kind of cool where she's like at a bar and there's
• 1:02:42
  Libby: like this creepy old guy trying to talk to her and she's like do you want to
• 1:02:47
  Libby: fuck me and he's like yeah and she's like all right and then like fucking stabs
• 1:02:51
  Libby: him in the dick like that's it's awesome i forgot.
• 1:02:55
  Evan: About that scene that is pretty uh.
• 1:02:56
  Libby: She's like i'm penetrating you.
• 1:03:00
  Evan: Yeah that like yeah that's there that's a goes back to like the very single
• 1:03:04
  Evan: the like the main theme is that they they don't take shit from anyone like none
• 1:03:11
  Evan: of them do you know none of the daryl.
• 1:03:13
  Libby: Ham you know.
• 1:03:14
  Evan: Uh every single one of them is not taking.
• 1:03:18
  Libby: Sofi sofi's a little soft but But, you know, I.
• 1:03:22
  Evan: Think I think I saw sometime recently, apparently they're going to re-release
• 1:03:26
  Evan: the the the shoes from that. I think at some point they did release them.
• 1:03:32
  Evan: And now, like, if you go on eBay, they're like 400 bucks because they don't make them anymore.
• 1:03:35
  Evan: But I think they're going to make them again because there's the yellow shoes.
• 1:03:39
  Libby: Yeah. Oh, hell yeah.
• 1:03:41
  Evan: I once had those.
• 1:03:42
  Libby: I don't buy I don't buy new anything. I only buy like thrifted clothes.
• 1:03:46
  Libby: and if I do buy new shoes, it's like I agonize over the fucking company, their ethics.
• 1:03:53
  Libby: I know not everybody can do that. I will maybe set that standard aside for those
• 1:04:01
  Libby: yellow shoes. That's one exception.
• 1:04:04
  Evan: I have no idea how... Yeah. Looking online now, you can buy them for,
• 1:04:10
  Evan: from when they were released, whenever that was, for like $200, $300.
• 1:04:14
  Evan: But I guess if they were to just be released as themselves, they'd probably
• 1:04:19
  Evan: be like $100, maybe. I don't know.
• 1:04:22
  Libby: Yeah. I don't know. I'd be into having a pair of those shoes real hard.
• 1:04:26
  Evan: They're pretty cool. I mean, I'm not a fan of yellow clothing just generally, just not my color.
• 1:04:33
  Evan: But I don't think I would wear these shoes, but in a different color,
• 1:04:36
  Evan: they'd be pretty cool. like a i would.
• 1:04:39
  Libby: Wear it with the whole get up oh i love it.
• 1:04:42
  Evan: I'm shut i.
• 1:04:43
  Libby: Don't even need to get on a motorcycle just wear the get up to like the grocery
• 1:04:47
  Libby: store with the yellow shoes.
• 1:04:48
  Evan: Oh it's funny you mentioned that hell the not the helicopter the motorcycle
• 1:04:51
  Evan: it's also when she kidnaps the sophie right like puts her in the trunk and doesn't
• 1:04:56
  Evan: kill her wait doesn't she like not kill her because she She wants her to tell the story, right?
• 1:05:02
  Libby: Yeah, she's like, I want them to know I know. I want them to know I know that they know I know.
• 1:05:08
  Libby: And goes through that circle like eight times.
• 1:05:15
  Libby: Yeah, and she's like, I'm going to cut something off, and it will be something you'll miss.
• 1:05:20
  Libby: And then they see it. She dumps her on a hill, and she rolls down a log with no arms.
• 1:05:28
  Libby: it's so cool like no one would survive that like you have arteries that you're
• 1:05:33
  Libby: gonna bleed out that like from losing your arms but man it's awesome anyway
• 1:05:39
  Libby: you know like you gotta set that aside yeah.
• 1:05:42
  Evan: It's what's one of those you just have to suspend most of your uh.
• 1:05:46
  Libby: Yeah when um when she cuts off
• 1:05:49
  Libby: the top of oren's head like i don't like how like it looks like they could have
• 1:05:54
  Libby: done a better job with the special effects but it really brought me back to
• 1:05:59
  Libby: like in hannibal lector where like he's like messing with his brain at dinner
• 1:06:04
  Libby: like i just it just reminds me of that scene so much with like her brain showing on top well.
• 1:06:09
  Evan: I think um because there aren't because all that was like practical effects
• 1:06:13
  Evan: so i mean i guess that's if they had done it with because Cause there was no
• 1:06:16
  Evan: computer generated anything.
• 1:06:17
  Evan: I don't think in any of the two, like the scenes in the, in the,
• 1:06:22
  Evan: like the huge fights in a lot of it's like they're on wires and,
• 1:06:25
  Evan: you know, flying around.
• 1:06:26
  Evan: And I gotta say like that scene is crazy.
• 1:06:29
  Libby: Well, but like the, if you're going to cut off the top of the head,
• 1:06:32
  Libby: you can't just have like a regular head with a brain showing like it has, I don't know.
• 1:06:37
  Libby: It was a little, they could have done a better job with it, but you went, you go with it.
• 1:06:42
  Evan: Yeah. I mean, of all the things I'd say, you know, it's fine.
• 1:06:45
  Libby: Um
• 1:06:45
  Evan: I don't think i have anything else on the movies anything you had on your little on your scorecard.
• 1:06:52
  Libby: The only other line i like i
• 1:06:55
  Libby: really love too is when the um strip club guy with the cocaine he says to like
• 1:07:01
  Libby: the stripper he like gives her cocaine and he's like be somebody and like she
• 1:07:07
  Libby: like does a line they're just sitting in his office it's like four o'clock in the afternoon.
• 1:07:13
  Evan: I don't remember that exact line, but that's pretty funny. Like the...
• 1:07:16
  Evan: Be somebody. A lot of the script is... It definitely is a funny...
• 1:07:20
  Evan: Like, you know, all of his movies have humor in them, obviously,
• 1:07:23
  Evan: but I think this one has a lot of,
• 1:07:26
  Evan: funny bits that kind of uh separates the tension from all the just murdering.
• 1:07:31
  Libby: Yeah there's a lot of great lines
• 1:07:34
  Libby: like yeah i think my favorite favorite if
• 1:07:38
  Libby: i had to choose from all of them is oren
• 1:07:41
  Libby: on top of the table just cut
• 1:07:44
  Libby: the guy's head off if any of you sons of bitches that lot it's the best like
• 1:07:49
  Libby: now's the fucking time and i wish i could pull that one out like in my real
• 1:07:54
  Libby: life and if you if you put buds like i'm gonna empty this whole goddamn can
• 1:08:00
  Libby: right in your eyeball well that's yeah that's actually.
• 1:08:03
  Evan: Yeah sometimes whatever what ends up happening i'm like oh i'm gonna add all
• 1:08:06
  Evan: these clips and then i get lazy and i just add one or none because it.
• 1:08:11
  Libby: Just doesn't take that much time there's just so many that's great and the i
• 1:08:15
  Libby: love it and like the pie may laugh that's great oh yeah.
• 1:08:18
  Evan: Well yeah it's one thing we forgot to mention is that the that l fucking kills
• 1:08:23
  Evan: him by poisoning his fish because she's like a she's just cruel.
• 1:08:28
  Libby: Yeah yeah she just him so she's like fuck you and he's like thousands of years
• 1:08:35
  Libby: old in this you know legend and she like,
• 1:08:39
  Libby: i guess that is like consistent too because she was she like wanted to kill
• 1:08:45
  Libby: b just like in her sleep with like you know that poison shit whatever that like
• 1:08:50
  Libby: she's fine with like these not honorable ways of killing people that's.
• 1:08:54
  Evan: True none of her ways like she kills bud by not really doing anything by putting
• 1:08:59
  Evan: the snakes and yeah she doesn't have she's she's more like the kind of killer
• 1:09:03
  Evan: that would dress up as something and then trick you into doing something as opposed to.
• 1:09:07
  Libby: Yeah like she does it like more of a prank than anything yeah.
• 1:09:11
  Evan: The nurse's outfit's also pretty ridiculous.
• 1:09:13
  Libby: Yeah it's real cool the eye patch with the fucking cross on it it's so cool forgot.
• 1:09:19
  Evan: About But yeah, Kill Bill, volume one and two for people that hasn't seen in
• 1:09:28
  Evan: a long time. I think they're fun movies.
• 1:09:32
  Evan: Say what you will about Quentin Tarantino, you might think he's a piece of shit.
• 1:09:35
  Libby: I know. It's unfortunate, but I can't let that movie go. I love it so much.
• 1:09:39
  Evan: There's a bunch of movies I like that are produced by Harvey Weinstein.
• 1:09:44
  Evan: This one was produced by Harvey Weinstein.
• 1:09:48
  Libby: That's why I don't go do the research. on that because it's like I gotta not know.
• 1:09:52
  Evan: Yeah it's one of those things where once you yeah you go down the you go down all the yeah,
• 1:10:01
  Evan: That's all I got, but...
• 1:10:02
  Libby: It turns to ashes in your mouth.
• 1:10:03
  Evan: I know. It does sometimes. There's certain ones where, you know,
• 1:10:07
  Evan: maybe it's beyond the pale where you're just like, well, fuck this thing, but...
• 1:10:11
  Libby: Yeah, well, like, you know, like now when you look back at old movies with like
• 1:10:15
  Libby: a modern view, you go, oh, fuck, that was really racist. I can't like this movie anymore.
• 1:10:21
  Evan: Like every comedy from the early 2000s.
• 1:10:24
  Libby: Yeah, like, okay, and Idiocracy. That's a really good example.
• 1:10:29
  Libby: we all loved that movie when it came out and then to look at it as an adult
• 1:10:32
  Libby: we're like oh fuck that was about eugenics and oh my god i.
• 1:10:37
  Evan: Argue with people about that all the time that no one no one will.
• 1:10:41
  Libby: Fucking yeah like they don't see it and but if you go and watch it and it's
• 1:10:45
  Libby: like they use the arse for a bunch dude like you can't like we were fine with
• 1:10:50
  Libby: it then but now as adults you go and look at it with a mature lens and it's
• 1:10:55
  Libby: you know you gotta let those favorites go i don't want to let kill bill yeah well.
• 1:11:00
  Evan: I think like every every um uh judd movie from like the early 2000 with you
• 1:11:06
  Evan: know all those movies have just i don't know comedy is a hard genre for like
• 1:11:10
  Evan: it to hold up because so much of it is based on the time period but anyway that's all i got but uh libby,
• 1:11:17
  Evan: as a as always thank you for uh for coming on.
• 1:11:20
  Libby: Yeah thank you for doing this movie i love this fucking movie.
• 1:11:24
  Libby: Thank you for having me on.
• 1:11:26
  Libby: And I hope everybody, ladies,
• 1:11:31
  Libby: anybody who is involved with male partners, I suggest when they are disappointing,
• 1:11:38
  Libby: watch this movie while you eat ice cream and instead of crying,
• 1:11:43
  Libby: watch this movie and you'll feel better.
• 1:11:45
  Evan: Instead of watching When Harry Met Sally, watch Kill Bill.
• 1:11:48
  Libby: Watch Kill Bill.
• 1:11:49
  Evan: I think for me, if I was choosing between those two, it would be no contest. that she's Kill Bill.
• 1:11:54
  Evan: I don't like when Harry Met Sally, but that's for...
• 1:11:57
  Libby: And if you have to only watch one, watch Kill Bill 2.
• 1:12:01
  Evan: That's true. And you don't really need to know the stuff. Just go on Wikipedia.
• 1:12:05
  Evan: Just listen to this. You already know what happens.
• 1:12:08
  Evan: But yeah, anyone listening, you can subscribe, do all those internet things, and catch you next time.