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#399 - Adam22 · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hey, it's Adam twenty two and you know what to do.
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  Speaker 2: Bootleg cav Podcast special guest in here. My guy Adam
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  Speaker 2: twenty two is in the building. Welcome back, sir. How
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  Speaker 2: are you feeling, Jay? I'm good Man's How's everything pretty good? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: You been a busy week grinding out.
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  Speaker 1: Content on my way to taking a small amount of
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  Speaker 1: time off for Christmas.
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  Speaker 2: Long you're taken off not you know, between Christmas and
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  Speaker 2: New Year's that's like a week.
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  Speaker 1: And even then if I get interview offers. I'll probably
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  Speaker 1: just do it.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway if it's like a big enough one, like.
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  Speaker 1: I'm always on call. Yeah, it's hard to say.
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  Speaker 2: Now always on call. You just released the well. First
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  Speaker 2: of all, I watched the first episode of You and
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  Speaker 2: Lanta's show. I didn't finish it. I just assumed it
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  Speaker 2: was gonna I didn't. I just knew. I just knew
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  Speaker 2: crit wasn't gonna win. Yeah, it was. It was. It
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  Speaker 2: was cool. It felt like some old school like Flavor
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  Speaker 2: of Love type ship for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where we're going for But would banging at the.
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  Speaker 2: End, Yeah, how was? I only saw a clip of
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  Speaker 2: the scene where you five five the guys.
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  Speaker 1: I think we fist bumb fist bum. He's a young
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  Speaker 1: black dudes. I don't know if he would have been
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  Speaker 1: comfortable with the full on Eiffel Tower.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't see because for people, yeah, for people don't
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  Speaker 2: know my Eiffel Tower, there's the you know, right, So
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  Speaker 2: what was it like? Because were you there with Jason
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  Speaker 2: Love and Atlanta? I wasn't around for that, So what
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  Speaker 2: was it like? Being in it? Way better?
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  Speaker 1: So much better because I felt like this weird little
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  Speaker 1: bit of jealousy when she did this, the scene with
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  Speaker 1: Jason Love, even though I got over that pretty quick.
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  Speaker 1: But in terms of us just shooting like me, him
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  Speaker 1: and her, I mean I was into it and fucking
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  Speaker 1: it didn't I didn't. I didn't have any like conflicted
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  Speaker 1: feelings about it. It was all just good times.
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  Speaker 2: Did you have any issues busting? No? None? Did the
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  Speaker 2: other guy any was born to come? The other guy
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  Speaker 2: was fine? Yeah, good because I heard the the previous
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  Speaker 2: guy had to some I wasn't there. Yeah, you weren't
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  Speaker 2: there to confirmed.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know Jason Love. He's in his own world too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I can only imagine that had to be
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  Speaker 2: a I don't know, man. I don't know if I
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  Speaker 2: could do it brat proculdn't get hard.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Honestly, it took me a couple
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  Speaker 1: of minutes.
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  Speaker 2: It took you a while.
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  Speaker 1: Normally I'm hard, like on command, but it did. It
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  Speaker 1: was like tugging on it for me, like four or
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  Speaker 1: five minutes before. But once I got up, it stayed up.
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  Speaker 2: It stayed up. Yeah, was was he? I didn't see
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  Speaker 2: the video? So was he swinging?
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  Speaker 1: Does he have a big dick? You're saying, yeah, he
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  Speaker 1: got a pretty good one. Yeah, maybe not quite ad
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  Speaker 1: Jason Love though to not.
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  Speaker 2: But more than you. Yeah. Wow, yeah, you're fucking sick. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to pick a guy smaller than me.
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  Speaker 2: I would addicted me, that's who's coming in here. I
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  Speaker 2: would have been so transparent.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people honestly were like, oh, he picked
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  Speaker 1: him because his dick was smaller than a couple of
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  Speaker 1: the other guys in the competition. Not really anything I
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  Speaker 1: was thinking about.
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  Speaker 2: Does that dude do porn usually? Yeah, he's a big deal.
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  Speaker 2: Oh he is a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's already popping.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh so you ared already kind of seen. Was
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  Speaker 2: everybody on the show besides krit maca porn so already.
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  Speaker 1: There was this dude Chardley's who's like an internet comedian.
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  Speaker 1: I have a feeling that he would not have actually
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  Speaker 1: done the fucking right. A couple other people too.
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  Speaker 2: So, like Rat Dick Ralph. The show seemed kind of
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  Speaker 2: like pretty set up. Obviously it was good.
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  Speaker 1: The winner was not determined. Wasn't people think that we
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  Speaker 1: had the winner picked out the whole time? It was
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  Speaker 1: Me and her were still kind of going back and
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  Speaker 1: forth about it until the last minute when we when
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  Speaker 1: we had to pick, but there was like a there's
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  Speaker 1: an interview that we do at the end of on
• 4:00
  Speaker 1: episode four, the final episode, we're talking to them at
• 4:04
  Speaker 1: length and like little these personalities just kind of emerges
• 4:08
  Speaker 1: being so much bigger than the other guys that it
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  Speaker 1: just kind of seemed obvious that he would be the
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  Speaker 1: one who kind of was emanating the most star power.
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  Speaker 2: And he's been cool about everything. Yeah, he's super cool
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  Speaker 2: because it seems like the other situation the guy was
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  Speaker 2: like kind of clout chasy a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we definitely talked to him about that so we
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  Speaker 1: could avoid that mistake.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, if we're going to do this, man, yeah, don't
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  Speaker 2: be aware to be a professional. Yeah, be a pro.
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  Speaker 1: Respect the marriage.
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  Speaker 2: How long How many days did you guys film?
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  Speaker 1: It was only two days. It seems like a little longer,
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  Speaker 1: but two days quick. It's so fucking expensive to have
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  Speaker 1: the whole entire reality crew there that, like.
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  Speaker 2: And the rent the house. Did you guys need to
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  Speaker 2: get permits? Yes? Oh so, you guys really fucking it's
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  Speaker 2: a real production.
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  Speaker 1: We hired like a crazy, like twenty person reality crew
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  Speaker 1: to film and conceptualize the whole thing.
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  Speaker 2: I've always told everybody because for whatever reason I've told
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  Speaker 2: you this before. I think people think like we're a
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  Speaker 2: lot closer friends than we are, and we're cool, like
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  Speaker 2: you're my boy, you know, like you've done some libs
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  Speaker 2: my way that I appreciate.
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  Speaker 1: I don't talk to that many people, but.
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  Speaker 2: People like hit me up, like, what's up with your boy?
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  Speaker 2: He's a fucking cook. This is weird, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, dude, maybe like and this always is
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  Speaker 2: why I always say, you guys have been fucking women
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  Speaker 2: on camera right for so long?
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  Speaker 1: Uh huh.
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  Speaker 2: One dick comes out our left field, and it's like,
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, they just act like you guys
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  Speaker 2: aren't sex workers or performers or whatever you like.
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  Speaker 1: Even when we had our kid, I don't really remember
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  Speaker 1: like almost anybody thrown it in our faces and being
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  Speaker 1: like you shouldn't have a kid, you're a porn star, YadA, YadA.
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  Speaker 1: Whereas now it feels like every time all you hear, oh,
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  Speaker 1: It's all people want to do is just tell me
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  Speaker 1: about how I'm like violating the sanctity of traditional marriage,
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  Speaker 1: and like everyone just kind of like willfully ignores the
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  Speaker 1: fact that we do porn and art. Let's be honest,
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  Speaker 1: clearly trolling slash ham it up to get as much
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  Speaker 1: media attention as possible on pluck talk, right, which worked?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think I mean that clip you guys
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  Speaker 2: sold with Jason Love had to be one of the
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  Speaker 2: more I think you told me it was one of
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  Speaker 2: the more successful things ever sold on that platform.
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  Speaker 1: Right, the biggest OnlyFans scene of all time.
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  Speaker 2: Ever ever seven figures, of course, eight figures.
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  Speaker 1: I want to want to take that leap. You never
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  Speaker 1: know though.
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  Speaker 2: In between, I look like around the five that's a lot, dude,
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  Speaker 2: what do they keep? Like, I always wonder what is
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  Speaker 2: only fan? What's their cut?
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  Speaker 1: Twenty percent?
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  Speaker 2: So they're keeping twenty percent?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, damn, so they're eating off everybody.
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  Speaker 2: That's fucking great, there, man, Onlyfan, that's such a great
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  Speaker 2: business model, saying right, damn. I remember when they were
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  Speaker 2: gonna go away and then all the fake only fans
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  Speaker 2: popped up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we spent like thirty grand to get a
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  Speaker 1: fucking plug talk website built. And then by the time
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  Speaker 1: I got done, OnlyFans seemed a lot more stable, and
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  Speaker 1: so we never even ended up making the website.
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  Speaker 2: Go live.
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  Speaker 1: We figured let's just stick to only Fans.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost like if YouTube went away, you'd have
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  Speaker 2: to figure some shit out. Like OnlyFans is kind of
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  Speaker 2: like the new like standard if you're a content creator
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  Speaker 2: even yeah, in the porn industry.
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  Speaker 1: And I even know girls, like some of the biggest
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  Speaker 1: girls in the industry who have their own website ready
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  Speaker 1: to go, and they just keep it on the back
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  Speaker 1: burner because only Fans is just so much more familiar
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  Speaker 1: to the users that it's just it's a layup, Like
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  Speaker 1: it's just it's just so much more effective to put
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  Speaker 1: your content on there, and it's kind of sucks that
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  Speaker 1: you can't necessarily present it exactly the way that you
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  Speaker 1: want to present it, like you would be able to
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  Speaker 1: on a website. But they go to your website, they
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  Speaker 1: got to put in their credit card information. They go
• 7:39
  Speaker 1: to OnlyFans. Credit card information is already in there for
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  Speaker 1: like almost everybody who would ever think about buying portant,
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  Speaker 1: right true.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's kind of like, if you're going to
• 7:47
  Speaker 2: go on YouTube to watch like all your content, why
• 7:49
  Speaker 2: would you go sign up for I mean, like shout
• 7:50
  Speaker 2: out to rumble, no, just to rumble, but I'm not
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  Speaker 2: fucking watching nothing on Rumble.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I would if it came down to it,
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  Speaker 1: but like if you had to, if I had to,
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  Speaker 1: I would go to Rumble.
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  Speaker 2: But it would take a lot. Yeah, it would take
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  Speaker 2: a lot, especially like if you got like booted off
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  Speaker 2: the platform or something. Yeah, exactly, that's happened with I
• 8:05
  Speaker 2: think what Steve will do. It happened with him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good to have a backup.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't know, do you guys get to see
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  Speaker 2: like like the top earners because we saw the celebrity
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  Speaker 2: top Earner of the Year thing on OnlyFans. Are you
• 8:18
  Speaker 2: able to see on the back end, like where you
• 8:19
  Speaker 2: rank and in the end of the.
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  Speaker 1: Year they tell you your like percentage, Like.
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  Speaker 2: You get to see top zero zero one percent.
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they don't give you any more information than that,
• 8:27
  Speaker 1: because it would be that would be pretty crazy if
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: we were able to be like, wow, we make a
• 8:30
  Speaker 1: little bit more than you and you but not as
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: much as you.
• 8:33
  Speaker 2: That would because I feel like some of these celebrity
• 8:35
  Speaker 2: numbers have to be inflated.
• 8:37
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people lie about it, and
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: I feel like.
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  Speaker 2: The bad baby numbers are so fucking insane. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know.
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  Speaker 1: A weird part of me kind of believes her numbers
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  Speaker 1: just because as ridiculous as that eighteen million dollar a
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  Speaker 1: month looks, it just kind of seemed like I when
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  Speaker 1: I saw how I went from like eighteen million to
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  Speaker 1: like eight hundred thousand as the months went by, I
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  Speaker 1: was like, that seems like a normal rate of degrading
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  Speaker 1: of income. But I don't know. If you saw the
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  Speaker 1: guy who was like Ruby Rose's.
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  Speaker 2: Number one with him, he said there was cap right, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: And so I feel like I think he's full of shit.
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  Speaker 1: H No, no's that's a funny reaction that a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people keep having to it is that they think
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  Speaker 1: he's actually now covering up for his own perversion. But
• 9:19
  Speaker 1: let me tell you, I've known this guy for a
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  Speaker 1: long time, so you know him. I've known him because
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  Speaker 1: he used to be an assistant to a tattoo artist
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  Speaker 1: who did some work on me. He one time came
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  Speaker 1: to the store in like twenty eighteen and he did
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: a dab with lean instead of water. I guess he
• 9:36
  Speaker 1: was just trying to get some attention doing that or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: And the thing about him that really made me realize
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  Speaker 1: it was fake. Is well number one, one of the
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  Speaker 1: top dudes at OnlyFans Corporate told me it was fake.
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  Speaker 2: And then after that.
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  Speaker 1: I realized just that he knows a lot of the
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  Speaker 1: porn star girls that I know, Like he was on
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  Speaker 1: FaceTime with Gina Valentina right after our interview, just talking
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  Speaker 1: on some regular shit. So it's like, he doesn't seem
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  Speaker 1: like the kind of guy. And also I don't think
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  Speaker 1: he has the kind of money that it would require.
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  Speaker 2: He's supposed to be a crypto whale. I think, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you think that's all bullshit. Yeah, So because he was
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  Speaker 2: I saw a picture he didn't get a ruby rose tattoo.
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  Speaker 1: He did get a ruby rose tattoo. It was just
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  Speaker 1: kind of funny because I doubt she would ever want
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  Speaker 1: to really see him again.
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  Speaker 2: That's very that's committing.
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  Speaker 1: You gave us some this super funny Oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: I feel bad. Actually I feel bad even calling it funny.
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  Speaker 1: But he had a whole week of media planned out right.
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  Speaker 1: He was going to do Vlad. He flew to Miami
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: to do a freshman fit immediately after our interview, and
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: he was supposed to go on that.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever pod we've been dming each other well, there's.
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  Speaker 1: Another one that probably isn't gonna happen, I would assume,
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: but like the whatever pod. When I went there yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: he asked me about that guy. I told him it
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  Speaker 1: was fake. He goes, oh, we're probably just not going
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  Speaker 1: to have him on. Then I'm like, oh, whoops, Vlad.
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  Speaker 1: I think canceled on him as well, fake And he
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: flew out to do Fresh and Fit and they canceled
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  Speaker 1: on him. Why when he after he already flew out there.
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  Speaker 1: But I understand why, because what the fun can you
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: interview in this guy about if it's all fake?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, especially I mean shout out to Ruby Rose if
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  Speaker 2: this was her team, like hiring some dude. Oh it
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  Speaker 2: fucking worked. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's not
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  Speaker 2: a bad idea.
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  Speaker 1: Noticing that I told Michael right away. As soon as
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  Speaker 1: I saw it, I was like, we should do this.
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  Speaker 1: We should say they find somebody, some guy, give us
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  Speaker 1: one hundred grand.
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  Speaker 2: Let's just find some dude, hire him, some fucking dude.
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  Speaker 2: That to nobody who doesn't have any relationship. Credit Media Present.
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  Speaker 1: They made it seem kind of real with the screenshots
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: of the.
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: With the texting like weird dude, from OnlyFans.
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: I was smart they and even this right here is
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: kind of like another round of attention on Ruby Rose's
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: only fans even And.
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  Speaker 2: I've noticed too, like you'll scroll on like Hollywood and
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: Locke and they'll have these fake stories about like teacher
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: gets fired from their only Fans account, but it's really
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: like banger, Oh no no, but I'm not even talking
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: about that one because that was a real one. There's
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: been so many because we talk about shit on the
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: radio and my boy will be like, oh, this is
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: some some somebody got fired from their job or whatever
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: or and then we'll look and we'll be like, oh,
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: this is a paid ad. Oh yeah.
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: And now Twitter will add a community note, oftentimes informing
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: the public of oh, this is fake, like this account
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: got paid to post this, this is only fan promotion. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so shot that thing going on. That's a very useful
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  Speaker 1: service right there.
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  Speaker 2: I always wonder, because I've been seeing the community notes recently,
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: and I always wonder if it's community notes who, like, like,
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  Speaker 2: what process does the community notes go through to verify
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: in or not verify.
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: I think it's like Wikipedia, where there's just like a
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: team of like unpaid people basically communicating about it, and
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: like a large percentage of people doing the community notes
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: have to agree in order to add the community note,
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: although I'm sure that that could be gamed to some
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: extent because sometimes you see the community note pop up
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: and then it goes away.
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: Do you did you see the obviously you saw the
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: clip of Elon sayingle fuck yourself to Bob Iger to
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: all the advertising. Yeah, but he's a Hi Bob in
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: the crowd or whatever. Did you watch that full interview?
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: I did. It was pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: I liked a lot of it. I think he's kind
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: of in over his head with telling all the advertisers
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: to fuck off, because he's supposedly this like free speech guy.
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  Speaker 1: And I can't think of a better example of free
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: speech than corporations deciding not to advertise with a guy
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  Speaker 1: who's basically created a platform where there's a lot of
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: unsavory things going on, much of which he's co signing.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't really think that he has any kind
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: of argument against those advertisers. The idea that he's going
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: to sue these advertisers for not wanting to advertise on
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: his platform is.
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: It is kind of anti free speech. Yeah, because they
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: have the ability to choose where they would average.
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  Speaker 1: I like Twitter being what it is where there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of free speech, and it's like the only platform
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: where if there's a fight or if there's something sexual,
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  Speaker 1: I know I can put it on Twitter. I can't
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: put it on Instagram and YouTube. I'm gonna lose my account.
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: Can't put it on Snapchat, can't put it on pretty
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  Speaker 1: much anywhere anything.
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  Speaker 2: Try on Twitter.
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I appreciate that, but I also think that.
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  Speaker 2: You had to put an episode on Twitter once, right
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: because you guys took that week off because of a strike. Right, Yeah,
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: we got a strike for like the dumbest shit ever.
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: I forget what it was. It was something about.
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: I remember the whole episode was on Twitter, though.
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we had to put it on Twitter. It was
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: fucking depressing as fun because nobody wants to listen to
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: a two hour podcast on Twitter. But we just wanted
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: to be able to put our week's episode out either way.
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: So I think if they somehow fix like the I
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: guess the uh just a platform for video watching. The
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: more and more YouTube starts like clamping down and like
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: fucking with creators, I could see Twitter eventually becoming like,
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: But it's going to require advertisers, and they have to.
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: And they have to change. Like it's like you could
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: you just press play on it, Like it doesn't go
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: vertical or it doesn't go horizontal. It's just it's just
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: a hard platform to watch.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: And it doesn't appear that a lot of people really
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: want to be in the business of hosting all this
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: video content because you look at Twitch. I mean, Twitch
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: could easily be a VOD style platform as well, like
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: live streaming, and you can upload your video after you
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: can't really upload videos on Twitch.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: Fucking I think it's fifty fIF.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they take a stupid ad raate, but you're talking
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: about Amazon, the richest fucking company in the world. Then
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: they don't want the headache of having Twitch turned into YouTube.
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: So that kind of makes me feel like Elon's biting
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: off a bit more than he can chew because it
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: doesn't like, you know, people aren't making really significant amounts
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: of money on Twitter, which I guess could change.
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: Dad, you probably know more than me, his face. Facebook
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: is still pretty solid. You still guys. You guys got
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: the Facebook booming right?
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: Facebook is pretty nice?
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Uh so where do you guys go from here
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: you in Atlantic because obviously you guys this, I mean,
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: does this keep happening? Is the the the door off
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: the hinges? Now when it comes to dudes, like.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: Definitely gonna do more shit with other guys. But I
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: don't you know, we're not going to do like another
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: reality show to find the next guy that's just gonna
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: fuck or whatever. You know, for sure, if we have
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: an idea something, they'll take it to the next level,
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: then we're down to do it. But at this point,
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: I think we're kind of plotting our next moves. I
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: think that as like an overall umbrella idea for plug Talk,
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: we could kind of take like any successful content style.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: Last night I was thinking about game shows a lot
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: and just thinking, like, because I know that some of
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: those guys like the Sidemen and the AMP guys and
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: everything Casanat and all them that they do basically game
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: shows that are kind of like ripoffs of existing game
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: shows that people watch on TV.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: Right, it could do it, like the sex version makes.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: Sense to me, But we got to figure out because
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: like I think me and her are both looking at
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: like how we exit plug Talk at a certain point,
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Like how do we build it into a business that
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: doesn't seem entirely dependent on me and her. And I
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: think we've taken some important steps with that because we
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: do we do these live orgies consistently on the channel.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: We will you have it, some of it on YouTube,
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: some of it on.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but we do like a big panel like you know,
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: fifteen or ten people talking or whatever, and then everybody
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: goes with bucks. But if we could produce content that
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: would consistently do well and promote the porn side of
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: things and make it X rated, but then also be
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: able to have a version of it that goes on
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Instagram and TikTok and everything, I think that's perfect. So
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: I think we need to like basically figure that out
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: because we want to have another kid at some point.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: So there's going to be a shake up in terms
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: of Lenna not doing content for six months or whatever.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: As I was going to say, like is there. I mean,
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: there's got to be like the end game's got to be,
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: are you guys? I mean, y guys, I could do
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: this forever.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Not forever. But I will say that there's a lot
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: of porn dudes like Dread. Dread is fifty no, Yeah,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: shopping in a lot of porn dudes are like fifty
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: at a certain point before they hang it up.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about just like the being married with a
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: performer being on camera. It feels like anytime some of
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: my favorite porn stars have ever gotten married, they usually retire.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know, we're having fun with it, Honestly, if
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: it wasn't fun, then we wouldn't be doing it.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: But and is it ever? Like? I don't like you
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: guys have always kind of had this type of relationship
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: where you guys bring women in right to the fold.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: So I mean for me personally, I would do plug
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Talk for free if I just got to fuck all
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: these girls.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Exactly what I say, It's like, how do you ever
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: like you probably can never go back to just like, hey,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: it's just me and you. Uh I think we could?
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: I think, like, because has it ever been that just
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: me and her? Yeah?
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: I mean before plug Talk, for sure, there would be
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: like months and months and months where we didn't hook
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: up with anybody else, especially on the pregnancy and stuff.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: I kind of feel like as I've gotten older, like
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: the thresome thing when I was still a civilian was
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: such like a coveted thing, like it was just like
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: I can remember every three something I ever had is
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: just the most exciting thing in the world, the fuck
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: two girls at the same time. Now having done it
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: hundreds and hundreds of times, I definitely feel like I
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: could just be a regular.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Guy, marry, hang out.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely dinner, but I'm gonna be just chasing chicks
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: around on the club and shit, well into my forties,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: I'm not really seeing it. So I feel like I
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: could definitely be just straight monogamous. But I also feel
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: like if we were monougoists and we weren't doing porn,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: we would probably start sort of being like, oh, well,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: maybe we should fuck this girl together, Maybe we should
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: go out with her, maybe we you know, finding like
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: I think we would still probably find ways to want
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: to explore a little sod.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: She end up fucking Josemas white wife, No, but I
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: would love to she when didn't she pull up? She
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: never did it? And what you do?
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: We did the interview and I was kind of tossing
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: it out there, like, hey, me and you doing porn,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: what do you think? And uh, she didn't seem like
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: it was off the table. But she's still married.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: In the same way in like twenty seventeen, a rapper
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: could go on your platform and it changes their life.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Are you guys kind of like the coveted platform for
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: any porn chick to try to get on, to try
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: to kind of change the trajectory of their business on only?
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, definitely we're a platform they could do that.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know, like if somebody wants to make a
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: bunch of noise by just doing a sex scene. In general,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: I think we're like a great place for somebody to
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: pull up. Like, I know that we for sure moved
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: the needle big time on that teacher Brianna or whatever
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: they were talking about. Yeah, but yeah, I mean, I
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: don't know. The market is very flooded in terms of
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: are you guys like content?
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: You guys have your pick every week. I'm sure like
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: we got X amount of people trying to do this.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Well, we have enough episodes right now to not do
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: it till March, so we have.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: This fucking yeah, you're just racking them up.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, some weeks we'll do five or six.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: How would CJ. Miles? Oh she's a champion. Oh my god, bro,
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: I've been a fan of hers for a long time
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: on Twitter.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: I can't wait for that one to come out. Her
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: interview is.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Mind blowing, very small. She's five four to seven, so
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: what was forty two years old? She's forty two? Can
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: you believe it? Fuck them Asians? DA don't age, bro
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: insane shit? What kind is she a Filipina or what is? Yeah?
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Phil a shouts of Filipino women and men. Do you
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: not age at all? My manager's fifty eight and he
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: looks like he's forty.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: I had a hell of a time not busting with her. Man,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: shit was overflowing?
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Was that like one of the better like recently? Because
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming like this, Yeah.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: She's hot, and it's something about her just being this
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: like miniature sized human but still being like basically a
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: milf though, was you never was just so professional the
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: way she was hopping on there?
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: You never fucked a midget? No, I'm so looking for
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: the right one. There's I've seen a few, at least
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: I've seen a few Twitter where you're like.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, but it hasn't really happened yet.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Because like the thing about midget, do you remember the
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: old og porn star Pinky? I do so Pinky to
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: me was like she was like just teetering on midget status.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: She really small. She was built like a midget. No,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: you know, like midgets are real stumpy and thick, you
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: She was just like, can I DM Pinky too? I
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: didn't hear back from her, although my girl probably definitely
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: doesn't remember Pinky, so it might have been kind of hard.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Explaining Pinky is. I don't. I haven't seen her recently,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: so I couldn't. I saw a picture.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: There was a whole thing where she was like they
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: took pictures of her in the fucking wal Mart or
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: some shit, and she wasn't looking so hot was great,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: and everybody's making a big deal out of it. And
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: it's like, Bro, you could take the hottest porn girl
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: in the game and you show her with no makeup,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: shitty photo. It's just happened with.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Ice spice people trying to talk about ip ice spices.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: When you see that, you realize how confused a lot
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: of guys are because the way chicks look when they're
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: on camera fully dulled up, and the way they look
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: ninety nine percent of the time, it's not the same thing.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: And this is that's like a little boy thing of
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: like realizing like, oh shit, girls look different with concealer
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: and mascara and all this shit.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: So's I kind of felt, no, shit, like have you
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: never had a girlfriend before? Does she look the same
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: from what you guys see?
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: But there is such a thing where like some girls
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: are hottest fuck with makeup, and they look still really
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: hot without makeup for sure, and then there's some girls
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: where the difference is quite drastic.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: It is drastic. What is the latest with krip Mac?
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Obviously he's incarcerated. Have you got to speak with him?
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Do you know what's going on with him? Yeah?
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: I talked him on the front of like two minutes
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: on the other day when I with Loupe and four Extras.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: And there's a new girl named Carby Doll who krip
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Mac has apparently landed himself in a relationship with since
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: he got locked up. That's the level of a riz
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: that my man Mak has we're gonna call him Rizmack,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: is that he basically like found a new girlfriend from
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: getting a wretch gee wall, which is insane.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: So is there any sort of idea like is it
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: a federal case?
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And like he's saying that, well, I've heard that
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: the average sentence would be five years. Damn, he's saying
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: three to five over the phone.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know, would you because I saw like, should
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Knight's got this new podcast that's over the phone. Do
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: you think there'd be a way to keep Kryp Mac
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: involved in content via the phone? That is a good idea.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: I haven't tuned into that.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Just to try to keep something going, keeping some motion
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: going with him, I don't know, you know, like I've.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Never had good luck with talking to people on the
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: phone in jail and having them tell me anything interesting thing,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: you know. I remember I used to talk to Draco
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: after he'd been locked up for a year or two,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: and they don't usually seem eager to tell you about
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: all their fights and everything. And then the audio quality
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: of shit. So I don't know.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I mean they obviously aren't going to
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: snitch on themselves, like I got into it last night,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: you know. But I don't know. Maybe I just feel
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: like he was on such a he was on such
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: a climb right now, Like I just watched that Neon
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: video where threw the hot dogged dude and was like,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: suck that.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Shit, hot Doug ever, Oh my god.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: I was like, krit Mak is on his way to
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: being in movies. This guy is on his fucking way.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: So when I saw he got arrested, it was like
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: it was I don't even know, dude was It was
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: just heartbreaking.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think, like, you know, my girl always
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: saw me interviewing him and like didn't really get it
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: or like never paid attention to his ship. And then
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: she hung out with him two days on set and
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: by the end of that she was like, He's the
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: funniest person I've ever met.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: She's just literious.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: And like like he was the star of the show
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: on the Lennon reality show, like he just kind of
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: stole it. Like he just was so good on camera
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: and so funny. And I actually don't really think we
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: would have had a show if it wasn't for him,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: or at least it wouldn't It wouldn't have been entertaining,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: it wouldn't have been anywhere near as funny, because it's
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: like every thirty seconds to a minute, there's just a
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: cripmac line.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: In the show.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: And all the porn dudes are just very normal for
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: the most part. They're like, you know, if you want
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: to be a porn star, and you want to be
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: accepting the game. The name of the game is make
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: everybody like you. Don't offend anybody, don't piss anybody off.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Even like the other day, I made a joke about
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Violet Myers on a podcast A Little d and My Girl,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: and he said, would you bust in her? And I go,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: hell no, I wouldn't bust in her. She's Mexican, which
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: you and me get the joke. Mexican girls get pregnant
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: a lot.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Whatever. Yeah, I mean I have two Mexican children. My
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: girl scared me right away.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: She's like, you should you should call Violet and make
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: sure that she's not going to get offended by that,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: which I was like, Okay, I feel you, because in
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: the porn game, you just really want everybody to like you,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: because it could be one or two girls that don't
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: fuck with you that could really have a negative impact
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: on your career.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Well, I've noticed you've been You've even even like some
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: of the stuff if you told me off camera, You've
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: kept close to you and not revealed on camera even
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: though you could. But it's kind of like an unwritten
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: rule type of industry.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I am a believer in the porn man's code, where
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: he's just anything weird that happens on set. But even
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: in this conversation, there are things that have been complicated
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: behind the scenes, on set whatever, and we just don't
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: talk about it. Everything was great, Everything always was great.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Nobody ever had a hard time getting boner. Everybody finished
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: as soon as they wanted to. It's just like, I
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: feel like, you're not supposed to talk about that stuff,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Like you're not supposed to film the DP, like the
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: krypt Mac DP penetration.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: You's so funny moving to LA And when my boy
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: was telling me about getting dp'ed once, I was like, bro,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: I didn't know about you know, the gang DP as opposed.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: To yeah, being a sick fuck and you can't win,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: you're not allowed to win the DP.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: If I'm getting dp'd and I start winning, more people
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: enter the DP and beat the shit idea, So you
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: gotta just just I mean then, but I still think
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: you're supposed to try to fight.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: You got to kind of put up a fight, but
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: you don't want to.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: You can't whoop his ass or the DP will probably
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: become a lot more extreme.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, Uh, that's interesting. Well, they tell me
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: how first of all, shout out to you and Whack.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: I feel like you guys have such a great chemistry
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: on camera. Yeah, I appreciate it.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: That's that's usually my most fun hour or two out
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: of the week.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Well, it's been a lot more consistent too, because I
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: know there's sometimes I would like just be off doing
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: whack shit, you know.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: And yeah, he's Anglo desh selling diapers and ship and then.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: He can't nick Cannon diapers exactly.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Mayweather's investing. He's in the Congo. He's selling diapers in
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: the Congo.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: I got a kid only using incredible diapers.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: My belief is that when you go into business, you
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: should probably like primarily focus on things you understand. M hm,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Like what the fuck is what is Wag know about
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: selling diapers in the Congo. But if he can do it,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: that's like the sickest thing ever. So I'm proud of him.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: If he becomes the new face of diapers, then ship.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: I was just telling him, tell me for like this idea,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: you know, Blippy, anyone who watches who has kids, the
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: guy the orange glasses, it's old whack that he needs
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: to become like that. He needs to become like the
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: brand ambassador for his own diapers, and we're gonna make
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: kids content and it's gonna be whacking a funny outfit
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: saying like, hey, this is how you count the four.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: That's a good idea, right it is. I mean, I
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: don't know, man, he never ceases to amaze me with
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: like his pivoting. Yeah, because he's all of a sudden
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: now like you know, like he said on Your Shit
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: the other day that he's kind of like got so
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: much Internet cloud. People could just say something about him
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: and then they get clicks. It's kind of crazy.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: It's funny to imagine if his diapers became super popular
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: and then you know, what, is there going to be
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: a Daily Beast article that's like listing off all the
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: offensive things that Wack has ever said on camera.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Like I don't buy these diapers at Target because the
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: owner said, you know, tupac or something right or all
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: these things, any list of crazy he said, Yeah.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: So I don't know, but I mean I feel like
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Whack is kind of like post cancelation.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't cancel Whack.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Whack would have to do something very extreme to be canceled.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like there's just a few people that's like,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know what you're gonna do, like.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Because they're like leftover from a prior generation, so it
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: feels kind of wrong to like judge them by the
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: standards of today.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: You know, that's hilarious. It is true.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: It's like Boosy is like he just wasn't born in
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine. He's an old school guy. Must people
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: that Boozy for who he is. You imagine how much
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: funnier Boosy's gonna get as he gets older.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: And how much people would be disappointed if he actually,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: like you know, succumbed to like being like, you know,
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: more more PC or.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I actually think now I've been thinking about it, lad,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: I think they should teach about trans ship in school.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: I've been thinking, yeah, like I imagine Boozy.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Fuck, oh my god, I'd be hilarious. What I thought
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: was dope was And I told Whack this like I
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: appreciated him being like a catalyst to kind of de
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: escalate what was going on between you and the guys at.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Okay, I would be happy to give why credit for
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: something like that, but in actuality, that was entirely me.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: I just chose to have the conversation with it. Like him,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: he didn't even know that that was coming, and he
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: was entirely antagonistic for the most part. So it's not
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: like you really helped out too much, but he was
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: my sounding board.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: For that conversation y to help guide the you know,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: guide it a bit.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: You know, you've been talking to some of them off
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: camera and all that too, so I guess that probably helped.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for you. I mean, if it feels like the
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: it feels like a lot more positive like this, this
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: negative energy is and hanging over both of y'all's platforms.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: You know, do you feel like kind of a relief
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: since you've had that conversation on camera and kind of
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: like said, I'm going to de escalate this, I'm gonna
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: step back. Yeah.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I think like at various points in your career you
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: have to be willing to kind of zoom out, look
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: at yourself, look at what you're doing with your time.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: And I mean, even just on a super basic level,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: I have this constantly where I'm thinking about what I'm
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: doing with no Jumper, and it's kind of like, well,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: I'm putting in this much time to earn this much
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: money from No Jumper, and in some sense, I'm kind
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: of ignoring my opportunit unity with plug Talk, which maybe
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: is two or three times bigger.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Opportunity on revenue.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: And when I zoom out and I look at my
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: business and I'm like, oh, well, you spent a lot
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: of mental energy this week in arguing with people, and
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: nobody benefits from this or seems interested in this besides
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: like the small little nests of hardcore fans that are
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: talking about it on Reddit and stuff. It's not like
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: all the viral platforms pick it up. When I say
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: something I ate, you mean you.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Had some good rants. I hit you like, yo, you
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: you had some fucking real Paul Hayman esque WWE top notch.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got that in me. But at the end
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: of the day, it's just like, what is what is
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: the shelf life of this?
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Like I can go viral doing all kinds of stuff
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: that doesn't like impact my life. And then when I
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: saw that you exactly, I saw this shit happened with
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Dub and it wasn't just like what happened on camera
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: with Dub. It's like I'm having conversations with brick Baby
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: and Dub after the fact, and there's just things coming
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: up in the conversation about neighborhoods and about groups of
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: people and they're not getting along and oh my god,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: this might happen and shit, and I'm just like looking
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: at it and being like, Okay, you trying to make
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: good content on the Internet resulted in a situation that
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: could very easily turn bad, and.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Even that situation could spark.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: And it's just like, what is the fucking point?
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Why am I? Why am I throwing the over podcast beef?
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I realized in that moment, I'm just like, well,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: you know, you could just kind of like pull it
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: back and just wave the white flag and just take
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: a little take a little mini l right now to
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: basically spare yourself a lot of wasted end.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: I think it's like growth.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: I was surprised that, like, even the audience, who obviously
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: like wants to call me a bitch and wants to
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: point out me being a pussy whatever, they talked about
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: it for a day and then they were kind of
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: over it too, because I think to a certain extent,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: like in the early days of US beefing, that was
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: the most viral content on their platform and then this
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: time around, it wasn't like it may have helped their
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: content a bit, they might have got more views from it,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: but it's not like it was a you know, nine
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: months ago, where like the biggest clip on back on
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: FIG that week is going to be talking about me.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Now it's it's just not really having that impact. And
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: you know, I see Joe Budden and Rory Maul still
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: going back and forth and just sort of like subdiscing
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: each other and stuff all the time, and I don't know,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: to me, that seems kind of silly, like you guys
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: have an opportunity in front of you, like why the
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: fuck is your energy still going into this? And granted
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: it's not like all their energy, but they're still just
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: kind of doing this song and dance and it's exact
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: same thing as us. And to me, I'm kind of
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: like you guys could probably just.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Like all of you guys have kids, all of you
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: guys are fathers, most of us, all of you guys
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: are well obviously I'm talking about like you know, the
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Rain guys involved. Everybody's got kids.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Man, do know has yet to prove that he can appropriate.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure he's he's all right,
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: another two in. But you know, for me, it was
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: like just seeing like some of the you know, like
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: I get it was for entertainment, but just I feel
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: like like once it kind of got past a certain point,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: it was like, oh, man, like it almost has to
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: like be a thing, you know. But you did a
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: good job of like leaning into it. You leaned into
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: that motherfucker for real. I think you said it kicked
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: off here.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah it did, because I didn't After they left the channel,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: I didn't do any interviews. I went on my honeymoon,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: et cetera. Then I come back and finally you asked me,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, I'll do an interview with Kevin that.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: I feel like you kind of snapped into your you
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: know what, the big.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Big twenty two thing. Yeah, but I didn't really like
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: what I said, didn't really like compared to what was
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: said later, what I said on here was like nothing right,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: but it definitely like sparked a lot of conversations.
• 33:30
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's get back of the interview. Have you
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  Speaker 2: heard from Lush at all? It looks like he's he's relapsed.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard about that. I haven't heard from him.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: A lot of people keep kind of hitting me up
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: asking if I want to have him on the podcast,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: and I'm kind of considering it, but yeah, the relapse
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: thing was kind of sad, just because I had so
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: many conversations with him on camera about him basically moving,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: you know, or like on camera him talking about how
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: important it was for him to not relapse, and how
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: he couldn't really handle smoking weed or he couldn't handle
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: drinking from time to time or taking his zans or whatever.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: He's cop two so far. So yeah, so you would
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: be open to maybe having him on just to.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: I'm definitely not angry at him in the way that
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: I was at one point, you know, But am I
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: dying to rejuvenate his career by having a conversation with him?
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Because as soon as I started to think about it,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: I pictured him going home and immediately doing a five
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: hour live stream talking about what we just talked about
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: on the podcast it's going to happen, and then throughout
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: the next week going on ten other podcasts to talk
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: about the fact that he just did a podcast with me.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: And I don't necessarily know that I want to be
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: the one putting the battery in his back in that regard,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: but it would be.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: It might help him heal, It might help him heal.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: I feel like that's like an open wound of his
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: life because this is the biggest shit that's ever come
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: up for him. Yeah, and he kind of fumbled it,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: you know, he kind of fucked it up.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: I think that there was probably a time period where
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: if Lush had died, I would have just never said
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: anything publicly. Yeah, And now I think that if Lush died,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: I would probably like tweet rip Lush. So that's growth
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: is growth is a big step, right, So who knows
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: where we might be in six months from now. Maybe
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: I could actually talk to him.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know, would you ever, I don't know about
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: t Rebel, Would you ever entertain bringing ad back on
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: the podcast one day? Because it feels like that's the
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: one in relationship that was I guess as less disrespectful
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: in terms of the commentary back and forth.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Ady kind of yeah, that would probably be plausible. I
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: want to be super shocked by that happening. I think
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: that they're still kind of like ganged up over there,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: and they just don't I think that probably if Ad
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: did that, everybody else would be looking at him like
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: he was bugging. And I think it's basically like both
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: of us trying to prove that not just both of
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: us like me and a D, but really everybody's kind
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: of trying to prove that they don't need each other. Right,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: So I don't feel like I'm not really in the
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: position where I want to like boost.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: Their it up. But soon I'm talking about a year
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: from there, Yeah, yeah, I.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Mean I feel like, honestly, probably someday we'll just like
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: see each other and end up in a conversation or somebody.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: There's already like people in between us who kind of
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: mentioned it of like I could get you guys on
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: the phone or whatever, And I don't think either of
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: us are super eager to do it. But I also
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: has Wack tried. No, Okay, not so much. Maybe maybe
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: to him. He hasn't really mentioned it to me.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like Wax would be the guy who
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: would just be like, I feel like he would do
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: it on camera though. Yeah, I'm gonna call ad right now.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: If he didn't do it on camera, he would go
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: in clubhouse and literally just tell everybody every single thing
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: we talked about.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: For sure. But is clubhouse still clubhouse?
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's wax House now. It's just it's
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: just whack and like ten other people, I don't know.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: He talks about it like it's fucking huge, but I've realistically,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: like almost never been on there.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: I think, is that a pound of mushrooms? Yeah?
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: I just had to ask if it was like pieces of.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Cardboard or it's obviously mushrooms you put on pizza, not anything.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, pizza mushrooms got there? Yeah, I forgot that there.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: It's a lot of money, yeah, I mean it's not
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: that much.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: That would be a weird day right there eating.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: All of that. If I that'd be a weird fucking year.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: You had a handful of that, I'll be on the moon.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Are you are? Do you doing shrooms at all?
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: I've done them throughout my life. I haven't done them
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: since they became like.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Normal thing, like you have a microdose or nothing.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: I think the last time I did a serious amount
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: of mushrooms was like twenty fifteen.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Oh shit, so it's been a while. That was.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, since then, Like there's been a couple of times
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: where I took a little candy or whatever, like me
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: and Sada Baby famously had a little funny shroom pod
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: one time. But yeah, I don't know, it was a
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: little freaky to me.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: It's don't really good when you did them in twenty fifteen,
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: like were you partying or were you by yourself?
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Or the time I remember, like damn, we were in
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: the Bay and we just like there's a bunch of
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: BMX homies and we were just hanging out in this
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: fucking apartment and just smoking like infinite weed and just
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: taking mushrooms and freaking the fuck out and then just
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: going out riding the whole next day. And that was
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: giving my whole life back then.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Just shrooming and riding bikes. I don't know if you
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: should combine those two people take shrooms his pre workouts
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: now that they'll do a micro dose and then they'll
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: go work out.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: To me, I get sort of self conscious and fidgeting.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Is this at the gas station? It's called feel Free
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: by the way, this this is this ship is supposed
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: to be like really, it's like supposed to be like
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: fucking opiates, plant based herbal supplement. Bro. They talked about
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: this on Joe Rogan. I bought a bottle because I
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: was gonna try it, and then I read about it,
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: and it's supposed to be like addictive, like opiate, but
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: it's supposed to it's supposed to be like fucking methan
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: a bottle, but it has a like if you take
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: it too much.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: It's a method very different.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: I understand that. But it's supposed to have you super focused,
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: but the addictive part of it, like you have withdrawals
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: and ship Like Jesse, who used to be with the
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Nute Boys, was telling me about it. Really He's like, Bro,
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: I don't He's like, I don't know. He took one
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: right before. He's like, I'm addicted to this ship. He's like,
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: I can't live off of them. They're at the fucking
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: gas station.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: I miss getting fucked up.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: So I mean this ship is like right, it's what's
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: the name of this ship that's in here. Oh Kava
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: leaf and KRETM leaf.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: So you're saying, I take that, and I do I
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: take that and focus? Okay, I haven't you took half?
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Right? How'd you feel? Weren't you all fucking like I'm
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: taking some kratim. Yeah, it's taking a little so because
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: I guess that shit was illegal for a long time
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: and it became legal and these guys are just fucking
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: These fuckers are just slanging this shit. I just wonder
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: what's worse that or the honey pack or the rhino
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: juice that you get at the game. I've done a
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: honey pack in the rhino juice before. Was it insane?
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: It works? You know? We take Blue Choo over here though,
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: promo cool bootleg. You know what, I'm all, Nashville dude,
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: I can't do it. I can assume though, if you
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: get to the point where, like you know, you're fifty
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: and you still got to get that thing going, you
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: know what I mean?
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: I hope that my survival isn't based on being able
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: to get a boner on camera by the time of fifty.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I've never I don't really have many problems
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: on camera so I'm trying not to jinx it by
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: taking ship with the guys.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Do have problems on camera? Do they usually take viagra
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: or do they take like do they well, they do
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: a honeypack. I honestly have no idea.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: I actually had a porn start the other day telling
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: me that the honeypack is fire.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: It works. Yeah, yeah it doesn't. It tastes fucking disgusting. Really,
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: but they're readily available all over LA at every gas station.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: So wow, people giving me that shit all the time.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: I still never took one.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: See. The whole thing is is like I feel like
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: nowadays is more acceptable for younger men to do that shit.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: I know they're fucking crazy. So I have homies of
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: mine who are like dependent. If they're gonna fuck, they're like,
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: I gotta get a honey pack. I know.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: I know dudes who take viagra every time they fuck,
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: and it blows my mind, like, what the fuck is
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: wrong with you?
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Why would you want to put yourself in that position?
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: So now every time you fuck, it's almost like it's
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: a mental thing that you think you're gonna have to
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: take fucking viagra. Yeah, I was born horny. One of
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: my homie like one of my best friends in the world.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: He's he has to He goes to Mexico once a
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: month and gets bottles of viagra and like for himself,
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, bro, like that can't be good for
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: your heart.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be relying on anything. Marty relyant
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: on fucking coffee and weeds.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, are you still dieting? Yeah?
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: So that's fuck up sometimes, Like I would be in
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: chiseled shape right now for the last six months. I
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: had actually been on it, but instead.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: You know, what do you because you were doing like
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: the eggs every morning, and yeah, I've been you lost
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: a lot of weight, eggs and big in every morning
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: for like my whole fucking life.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: But then I have like a meal prep place that
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: I use. But then, you know, just fuck up, Like
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: last Saturday, I ate a fucking pint of Ben and Jerry's.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: You know I'm opening a pizza restaurant across the street
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: from Porto's, really yeah, and I just know I'm about
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: to You got a bunch of partners on that or
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: how's that look? Just just too okay? Yeah? You know
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: I do. Yeah. Armenian eighty he's one of my partners,
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: and then my guy who's a the pizza man justin
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: not Piazza. I want to open a Schwarmer restaurant out here.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot of those, yeah, but.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: I feel like I could do it different because I
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: used to go to, uh, the Hullal trucks.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: In New York.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're so sick and I feel like I've
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: never found I've never found one that captured exactly what
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: made those things.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Open a restaurant and just call it Halal truck. It
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: could be a mortar style.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: It's a good brand name. Hell because they have whole
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: All guys out here. I think that's part of the problem.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: I love the whole All ship, but it's not that
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: popular here.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: It's not fucking with New York. No, there's nothing.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: If you see one hundred food trucks out here, ninety
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: of them are taco trucks.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: One hundred percent. No. If you you were in Austin
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: and they had the Halal trucks on sixth sixth Street,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: right yeah, Oh really, I haven't had Austin hull all.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: I mean it's similar to New York. You get the
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: fucking falaful, fucking pedah just to worship that ship. No,
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: that's great now and then if you got do it
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: in the valley, they got a good hall spot now Ensino,
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: that's really good. My Jewish Homi took me there. Ship
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: was fire.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: I ordered different hall all places off Postmits from time
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: to time, and I have post mats, ain't it?
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Man? Never really hits the way I want it. I
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: feel like nothing on Postmates hits the way you want
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: it to. It's always a little hot or a little
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: fucking cold. It just gets thrown in a bike. I
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: never can do a salad on Postmates.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: But there are, okay, there are certain things like, uh,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: what's it called fucking nachos? You would never want to
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: order nachos on Postmates, right because twenty minutes after the
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: naos come out. Ship is what you do? You turn
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: the oven on while the ship's on the way to you,
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: and then you throw those nachos in the oven.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: It depends if you've got sour cream on your nachos.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: You don't want sour cream in the oven. What's the
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: oven gonna do to the sour kream? Is just gonna
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: crisp sower cream? Cold?
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Man? Yeah, No, that's a good point. But you say
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: no sour cream and they put your own sour cream
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: on after or sour cream on the side. Boom, no
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: problem fixed.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Uh you stopped doing a weekly show. Yeah, I saw that.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: You just said it was taking a break, taking a break.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: I've just been like so overwhelmed with doing interviews and
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: we've kind of been between casts where there's not like
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: a super locked in cast on.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Because it was for a while it was just you
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: brick baby baby.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Then whoever, just trying different people, you know, And then
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: I just I look at the goats of doing weekly
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: content or even like academics doing the news or doing
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: the streaming uh stuff and everything, and I just feel like,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: if I'm gonna do a weekly podcast outside of the Wakwan,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: which kind of carries itself because we have such energy.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: And it's great, great, yeah, but I just if.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a weekly podcast again, I just really
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: want to be able to put my all into it.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: And I don't know exactly what that would mean at
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: this point, but I feel like I would need like,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: like I look at Joe Bunnen in them and like
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: the fact that they just get in that fucking room
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: every day and just work on the conversation between each other.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: I think that's so sick. I'm just consumed to doing
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: the interview, so I don't really have time to do that.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Like almost every night Micro goes to bed at ten
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: or and I'm like in the back house until one
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: in the morning getting ready for interviews like that almost
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: every time, like every night. Like it's just I'm so
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: focused on and to like really be a great podcaster
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: on a weekly basis, I feel like you just have
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: to be willing to like actually put the prep in
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: to like come up with your takes, figure out what
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: you're going to talk about.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Otherwise you're getting on Cameron winging it, and I hate that.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: I can't stand people who get on camera and then
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: they just start reading Instagram posts off and that's the
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: first time they thought about it. They don't have any information.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that so that platform like like that
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: style of content. I agree fully, It's like you got
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: to kind of prepare yourself on the way Steven A.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Smith or Shanna Sharp does.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Right, And they're lucky because presumably they have a big
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: fucking team around them that helps them come up with shit.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: If I was gonna do a weekly podcast consistently again,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: besides the Wax Show, I would just have to be
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: willing to put a lot.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: More into it. Yeah.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: My whole thing too is like even with interviews, Like
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: my interview style was like I don't I kind of
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: wing it the time. I don't and I'll see the wave.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Ladd talks about it, he'd be like, I have my
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: assistant to get notes, I'll do research, and I'm like,
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: you know, I'll do some like loose research, but like
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: I'll kind of know front of lobe. Sometimes I'm like
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: where the convo goes.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm casual. Sometimes I'm not casual at all.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: You know, one comes in here that I know is
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: like a big deal, but I might not necessarily. Yeah,
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: that's when I spent too five. That's when I'm like, Okay,
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: let me dive into this shit.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: And I love that shit though, because like even yesterday,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: I was supposed to do a podcast with a Charlie
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Kirk who's a fucking uh.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: This was on the Whatever podcast.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: I was supposed to debate this dude about porn and
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: porn being legal and all.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: That kind of sh that name.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the guy who started turning point in USA,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: which is like a huge conservative I feel like that. Yeah, okay,
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: And I literally spent five hours before that conversation watching
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: other porn debates on YouTube and just working on what
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: my arguments would be in my head and trying to
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: really figure out, like, okay, if he says this never
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: happened and then the guy bailed at the last minute.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: But that is the kind of preparation that I like
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: to put into interviews. Sure, always do that, but that's
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: why me and Remo do a lot of interviews together.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: He's able to maybe do a little bit more of
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: the deep Digg game specifically, like in terms of the
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Chicago ship and stuff.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: It's yeah, I got to do that, bro, like that
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: whole fucking there's so much ship that you you talk
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: about or that you're like people you're interviewing. I have,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: like the Chicago shit dog. I have never ever spent
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: a waking second trying to figure out what's going on
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: in Chicago. But you got all of the fucking I
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: don't know. I just know Dirk's got problems with Duck
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: who died, and his mom's on OnlyFans, and there's the
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: guy with the Jay Maine who's really funny. I don't
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: know his history in Chicago whatsoever. I just know him
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: to be funny on your show. He's an op. Yeah,
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know too many. Well, I only know he
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: made I assume so because he had the Cereal box
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: taking down right with the Dirk's turky.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Well that was that was Dirk's friend BJ from O Block.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Like, you go back and forth with people online, like
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: recently there was a guy you're just like, I have
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: no fucking clue who they are shout out to AOKD
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: in the tent, No clue who that is. He's a character. Yeah,
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: and he's from Chicago. Yeah, yeah, I just I mean, yeah.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: But that's the weird thing about the Chicago stuff is
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: that you can interview some pretty marginal Chicago and it
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: works and it.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: Does get a lot of views. Yeah, Like I did
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: you know I had to get hip to what was
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: going on in Jacksonville because I interviewed Julio.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: But like that scene in comparison, you have like a
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: h it's more simple to figure out you have a
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: handful of dudes whose views whose videos would do numbers.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: But like, realistically, most of the tangential characters are just
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: not going to do as well. And in Chicago, it's like.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: There's so many sub characters that you could talk to
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: and all that shit, bro, Because I never was into
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: drill music.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't blame it was never my thing. I
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: like it, but definitely it's it's a lot to bite off.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: Like even like, like obviously I played Chief Keif in
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: the club and shit, but like I was never like
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: I understand Chief Keif's significance in culture and his influence
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: on today's generation. I get all of it, but I mean,
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: Chief Keef is ancient history, but it just but even
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: then in twenty twelve thirteen, whenever that was I never
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: like dived into, Like, you know, I remember seeing him
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: get taken to the gun Rangel by Pitchfork, which you
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: know it was way backed in, but I never really
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: dived into any of that shit, bro. So like sometimes
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: you'll be talking to people and I'm like, I have
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: no fucking clue.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the general reaction to a huge percentage of
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: the content of that How I do It's just like,
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: who the fuck is this guy? But if you get it,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: you get it right.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: It's like the subjects like yeah, for sure.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: That's My problem is that I'm just like deep in
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: so many subcultures. I guess it's not a problem, but
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: I just have like so many little threats.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: And you haven't so many, like you have knowledge of
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: all that shit too, So it's like for me, it's
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: the same character. Like if I'm gonna do like some
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: deep research, it's got to be somewhere. I'm like, Okay,
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: this guy's doing numbers, and I really am not fully
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: aware of what's what he's like, you know, the artament was.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: Putting the puzzle together and just kind of like figuring
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: out exactly what's going.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: Well, the way vladd does it is crazy. It's like
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: art the way he like starts the interview, and it's
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: just like, so in twenty twelve you said this is
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: this in this interview, and uh, it's like.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: I'll always be like, Okay, we'll get to that.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: We'll get to that later on down because I have
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: the driving this.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Is the clip that I'm making right now, so we'll
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: get to that.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean it's impressive, and I know he's probably
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: got people helping him with research, and but like you know,
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: I was one of the guys from Vivid Ramna Swami's
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: camp had hit me, and I was like, if I
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: do that interview, I gotta dive in.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm not putting myself in the right circles because
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: no presidential candidates are hitting me out.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm trying to get RFK on my ship. Yeah
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: he did so. I the guy keeps inviting me to
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: like his his donor don't really He's like, come come
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: to the donor event or whatever, and I'll see it's
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: like a thousand dollars or something, and I'm like, oh lord,
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm cool, but like, can we get this
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: interview off? Like it'll be on the radio all over
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: the country and on my channel, like you know, but
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: right then, But the Vivid guy, I think that might
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: actually happen. Yeah, I just don't fucking you know. I
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: know a lot about Vivid. I've watched a lot of
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: the debates.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: We didn't remember his name last time we did this interview.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: We didn't. But he's done a good job. Vivid Swamney.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: Did you see the last debate? I didn't. I don't
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: watched any of those. Now, Bro, that ship was like
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: eight mile Bro really him and the broad Uh, what's
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: your name? Nikki? Haley and then the fat fuck Chris Christie.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: He's surging.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: She has no chance against Trump, but she's gonna be
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: surging for sure. She's like the biggest one besides Trump.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: Now, yeah, this is wild, but they were snapping on
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: each other like it was a rap battle. It was
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: so distress. This dude Vivid told Chris Christy to get
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: the fuck off stage and go have a good meal.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I said Jesus, Chris Christy, Really is it?
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: A disgusting human?
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a fat, fat fuck.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: I've seen a clip of him drink he's hanging on.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: He was on the train in the morning coming from
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Jersey to New York and he had a shamrock shake
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: in his hand, and it's like he did, you're already
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: fucking three hundred and fifty pounds, You're already morbidly obese.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: You're waking up in the morning and drinking that much sugar.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: Like there must be so many people around him, like
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: any sane adult who could tell him, right, part of
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: a balanced diet, you're gonna die. And as like, as
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: a candidate, being fat is a real liability.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: For sure, just like being an old fuck is.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: I know, I look at Chris Christy like you're a
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: fat fuck, but I have.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: A heart attack. Shit, I don't know, it's crazy what
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: you just said. I find myself doing that. I mean,
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: I'm thirty six. I know you're a little bit older
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: than me, right forty Yeah, but like I feel like
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: we're kind of both in the same spot where we're
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: looking at our health differently than we used to. And
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: it it equals me judging fat people when I see
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: them being fat. Yes, like when I see somebody who's fat,
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: like me and my wife were eating at we went
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: to We went to a spot, I think it might
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: have been a buffet, some sort of buffet, and right
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: behind us man his family came in. I'm talking each
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: everybody in his family was like two fifty north to
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: two fifty's a bunch of fat fucks just squeezing into
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: this booth right And I just looked back and I
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: was like, fuck, Like they shouldn't be, like, yeah, they're
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: gonna die.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: Like and through having a kid, I say that all
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: the time, where like my kid she ate McDonald's one
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: time in France with my girl, and then besides that,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: I mean she just eats healthy shit.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: Well, that's what sucks about me. I had my kid
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: when I was eighteen, so I've kind of always just
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: let him do his thing. So now my kid's eighteen
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: years old. But the thing is that he drinks fucking
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: soda all the time. And I try to tell me,
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: you should drink some more fucking water, and he's like, yo,
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: if I've been drinking soda my whole life, fuck you, dad.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: Like I'm like, bro, drink some fucking water. I drink
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: plenty of water. Stop ordering soda every time we get food. Like,
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: my kid has no idea what soda tastes like. See, yeah,
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: if I had a kid, If I had a kid now,
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: i'd be on that wave. But I had a kid
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: when I was I was a kid.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: You know, we feed her the way that we feed ourselves.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, if we order food, even
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: if we order like burgers and shit, it's like we
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: don't even we hide the fries. If we get like
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: desert or anything, we hide all that. So I used
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: to think about the burger.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: When I had my kid, I was eating top ramen
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: in an apartment, fucking microwaveol pizzas.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we're not really holding us to a
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: standard that's any different than us. And also we don't
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: want to give her a fucking eating disorder or think
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: that like there's something really scary about different foods and stuff.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: It's just like your maintenance diet that you're gonna eat
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: in an average week should.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: Probably be pretty same. There's just certain shit that like
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: I would used to I used to just fuck a milkshake.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: I used to. I just would just be like, nah, bro,
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: I just the thought of drinking a milkshake just makes
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: me like be like, that's gonna send me back a month.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: I remember there was a time period in my twenties
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: where I would wake up in the morning and eat
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: like a banana, like two bananas, and then I would
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: not eat anything for like seven hours. And then I
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: would eat a whole pizza and then crush a pine
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: of Ben and Jerry's and that was my food for
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: the day. Yeah, and I wondered why I had diarrhea.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: That's why, because I'm a person, or if I eat bad,
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: that bowl is getting me too painted, me too pain it.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: Were you ever a soda guy? No, See, that's the thing.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: I've always been a fucking I love coca cola man,
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: that's my dad. I like it from time to time too,
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: but I don't really there's a certain shit that like
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: I can't eat unless I have a soda. Like I've
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: never been like that. If I'm getting tacos, if I'm
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: getting a burger a slice of pizza, and I get water,
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what am I doing? I love water. I
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: drink water with everything I eat.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: I just need to constantly be wetting my mouth while
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: I eat.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: No me too, I can't eat dry. My wife won't eat,
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: she won't drink it, so she doesne eating.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: I don't like it, but I like order popeyea sometimes
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: and it forces you to choose a drink and most
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: of it's like, you know, mango, kool aid or some shit,
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: and I'll get it and just I'll take one sip
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: and then just dump it down the sink because it's
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: just too much.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: I'm just not used to that much sugar. For you.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: Where do you see no jumper going into into the
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: new year? Because you know obviously you're you are, You're
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: doing a lot, man, and I can only assume that,
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: like you're seeing like the type of person who kind
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: of is cognitively aware of when you were not inspired
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: or not into something, because you've said that over the
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: last year. So like there's just times where I'm just like,
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: what am I doing this right now?
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: I'm just having a good time doing the interviews, which
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: is really why I started No Jumper in the first place.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: It's just doing a lot of interviews.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: It slowed down for a little bit, but for a
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: while it became like the focus of No Jumper was, Oh,
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: it's a bunch.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: Of friends hang up with friends, hanging.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: Out talking, and it's like, all right, there's basically like
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: two directions, two primary directions that I could go with
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: No Jumper. I could do interviews and focus on the
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: platform being about interviews and getting more interviews and building
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: up interviewers. Or I could really kind of double down
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: on the whole homies hanging out talking about shit. I'm
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: gonna be real with you, Like, from a financial perspective,
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: the homies hanging out talking to each other thing is
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: just not really the move because you got to pay
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: the dude's a pretty good amount. As you saw with
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: the thing when people left, they left they're going through
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: that too, well, they were complaining, Yeah, they're probably going
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: through it too. Yeah, but like they're complaining about I
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: mustly getting paid, and meanwhile I was taking l on
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: the content, you know, because it just doesn't earn as much,
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: especially live stream.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Like if we're just gonna come out here and
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: hang out for fun, yeah, Like I gotta make some money.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: I got kids. Yeah.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: And when I think about what I'm doing in my life,
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: it's like, if I live streamed all of my interviews, right,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: I would have probably missed out on like, I don't know,
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: like a million dollars this year, or like many hundreds
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: of thousands of dollars, because chopping them into clips and
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: putting them out like that is just so much more
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: beneficial to us than putting them online and having it
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: age restricted or whatever. And it's like, for me, at
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, I would like to do
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: our interviews live. I mean, it's kind of scary because
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: sometimes people want you to take shit down, you gotta
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: cut shit out, whatever. But I got to think about
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: the business side of things.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: Remember when Rogan was doing his shit before he went
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: to Spotify, all that shit was live.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: A lot of people used to do it live and
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: kind of realized at a certain point that it just
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: wasn't really worth it.
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  Speaker 1: You've kind of he's also someone who's not really trying
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: to like make money through streaming on YouTube, which we are, like,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: we have to kind of pay for all our employees
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: and everything by doing that.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: So for you, you've I've noticed you've reversed the way
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: you were dropping interviews where you would do you're doing
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: clips now than the full thing. Yeah.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: That started because of people like tjf Bezou and fybj Main,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: where I would pay them for the interview, and then
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: it's kind of like, okay, well, how are we going
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: to make the most money from this, Well, I guess
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: we basically have to drop it in clips before we
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: drop the full thing. And then we started just kind
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: of doing that with everything for a while, and then
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: I went like one month. I don't even know if
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: the fans noticed this, but I went like one month
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: where I was primarily dropping everything full interview first and
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: then clips on the clips channel, and I feel like
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: the content kind of gets more attention if you drop
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: a clip by clip and I see it how it
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: is with Vlad. And I've found that Vlad is usually
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: right about everything he's doing. He's just been doing it
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: forever and he's so analytical and he's so like capable
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: of looking at what is going to do what. But
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, some of the interviews I like are with
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: such fringe, niche characters that it just doesn't really feel
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: right to drop it clip by clip. So I'm kind
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: of like in a weird place where I want to
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: drop certain things the full thing up front and then
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: other things clip by clip. So I'm still kind of
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: trying to figure it out.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying figure out what I'm gonna do with this
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: the NBA Young boyd content I got because we got
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: so much and it's like, hmm, we want to make
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: sure we take advantage of it, you know, because it's
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: a big situation.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: Definitely, and knowing that the best moments from your footage
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: with him are going to end up on Twitter getting
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: millions of views that you will not participate in in
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: any way aside from people saying like, oh I saw
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: you in that young boy thing on Twitter.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, that's what happened. Every day I get
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: hit with that big boogie clip where he's on my
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: fucking platform and he was talking he said he got paid,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: like offer ten million dollars to go to college.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: I see people always saying like this was the biggest
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: lie I ever told or some shit.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: It definitely might have been. So you're you're open to
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: paying people for interviews nowadays? Is that something you because
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: you didn't do that always, right.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: I never really did it before, But over time it's
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, again, we all have our
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: platforms and you got to look at it as a
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: business and it's like sometimes you know, I'll pay a
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: couple thousand for an interview and make ten thousand or
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: fifteen thousand.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like the trade off makes sense, and you're gonna
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: pay for the ones you know you're gonna get your
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: money back on.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: And I think it's just only fair because to a
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: certain extent, like, you know, the people are not idiots,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: like somebody like fybj Main, Like what reason would he
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: have to go do a bunch of podcasts aside from
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: getting paid from him? If he knows, then no jumper
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: is going to make ten thousand dollars off doing an
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: interview with him. He's going to get in there and
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: say I want three, I want four thousand, I want whatever.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: And yeah, he hit me right because I DMed him.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: I was like, Yo, you're funny. Come on the show
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: sometime and he's trying to get bag and he said, hey, man,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: it's not what I do over here, buddy, but much
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: love to you. But I understand. I say, keep hustling.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: I am mad at you. Though. Same thing with krit Max.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: He only got considered paying. He wanted five hundred dollars.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: But I was like, at the time, he was doing
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: so many interviews, Yeah, what are you gonna ask him this? Right?
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: And so I was like I was like, yo, what
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: I was like, maybe we go skydiving or something like
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like some random shit, you know,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: like that's very mack adventures those But then he started
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: doing that. Yeah, so it was like, ah, they're already
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: kind of you know.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: Because that's the whole thing with with with Jy Maine
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: is this that like he does content on his own
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: platform as well. He does little interviews with Taste Savage
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: and shit like that, and it's like, well that content
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: he knows exactly how much of that cart that makes,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: so he could probably go the math and figure out
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: how much.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: Money I'm making off of them. So yeah, Like we
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: just did a video of log with mexicanot where we
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: went in murder hogs and helicopter. Yeah, and it did great,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: but like really like we didn't make money off it,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: just kind of paid for the trip paid for itself. Yeah,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: which is fine though because it was a dope video
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: and it brought a bunch of subscribers and it kind
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: of you know, I think it's like the second vlog
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: we've done, because you've been doing blogs forever, I have it.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: So that was the second one we ever did. Yeah,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: and so the first one was did really well, the
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: second one did well, So it was like, you know
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: what this is, We don't have to make money on this.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's good to just do shit in general,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: Like if I go to you know, I mean, really,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: if I'm going to go do a vlog, even in
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: like the LA area, even if it's like a day trip,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna have to make kind of a
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: significant amount of money to cover, like, you know, the
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: film I was obviously my film was were like on
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: salary and shit like that, but like even just having
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: security with you, all of a sudden, then it's like, oh, Okay,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: this content is costing quite a bit more because you
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: got to pay for all these different things. I don't
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: necessarily think that like us doing like vologs make sense
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: if you have a big idea that's going to really
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: like get the viewers in. But the viewers are allergic
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: to like lazy content at this point. They just know
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: And it did not used to be like that. People
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: used to watch whatever, they watch whatever, and now it's
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: much more cutthroat. And I've heard a lot of like
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: very big channels in this space tell me that this
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: year was a drop off in revenue that they never
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: really experienced before. And I don't think I can say that.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: I definitely think that I probably made as much in
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty three as I made in twenty twenty two,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: which is kind of intuitive to some people because they're like, oh,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: you got less views. But I had thirty three people
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: on staff at one point last.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: Year, and now they don't want the back end of
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: the business.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: We almost cut our staff in half.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: And I mean that might sound come of you guys
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: had thirty three at one point. Yeah.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: Wow, well including like lot of hosts and stuff. I
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: actually I'm only saying that because we were just doing
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: Christmas bonuses and I was like, oh, like we have
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: way less heads that we need to take into account.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: But I mean you got to think about the business
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: that way at a certain point, like am I paying
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: people that aren't producing a return for me?
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: Are you doing a Christmas party this year? Because last
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: year's just kind of lives in infamy, wasn't I've seen
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: like I saw a video where it was like everybody
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: who's there and then they're gone? Yeah it was it
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: was whoever edited edited did a great job, because I
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: don't think I actually saw it.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: I just saw like the first two seconds in the
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: reddit and I was like, I'm not watching this.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: I kept scrolling. But you guys are gonna do a
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: no Jumper holiday party this year. It was a little something, Yeah,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: a little little shindy. Your birthday looked fun. I was
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: on the list and then I wasn't on the list. Really, yeah,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: you guys invited me, you hit me, and I told
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: you I was coming. I got a text the day
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: of saying you're no longer on the list.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: I swear to god, you could have definitely came. I
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: mean the I did hear like a couple other people
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: say that too.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: I got a text it was like, thank you, but
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: you're no longer on the list. Really, after I got
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: a TEXTA said you're confirmed on the list, so you
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: would have came otherwise. Yeah, but I'm like, I've had
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: me up, dude. There was a lot of people in
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: that way. Listen, we're not supposed to be I certainly
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: was not tripping, wow, chilled with my kids, but I'm
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: also not the person that's going to bother you.
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  Speaker 1: A few other people told me that that happened where
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  Speaker 1: like that because that r is because I could have
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: bothered you were Josh.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: But I was like, you know what, I'm not going
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: to fucking show up and be the guy standing outside
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: trying to fucking get in.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: I should have just texted me and I would have
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: fixed it for you right away, because that happened with
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: a couple other people, but I didn't know iked.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: Like a fucking good shin dig though.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: That was probably the best party we ever did. But
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: you know, we're talking about spending a lot of money
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: on shit. I mean we spending like one hundred racks
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: on that party.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean we you guys had sponsors though.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: No, we didn't really get sponsors, just just do it.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: Like we didn't even bother trying to get alcohol sponsor
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: because that right there, like the alcohol would have been
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: like minus ten or fifteen grand worth of product on
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: you know if we had had a sponsor, but I
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: don't know. And then like the reality show that costs
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: almost one hundred thousand dollars to put together, the rental,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: paying the talent and the crew insane, and it's like,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: are you going to be able to make a hundred
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: thousand doll was a four YouTube videos? I mean they
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: would have to get like two million views each and
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: the last episode got age restricted, so it like really
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: didn't earn as much.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: So that suck.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: But we chose to do that anyway, just because I
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: think it's good to have like a template of look
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: at what we can put together, look at the scale
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: of the productions that.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: We can because maybe now you can sell you could
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: be a production company.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: That was kind of our was like for the MTV,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: let's make the fucking kryptmag dating show.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: And then he got locked up, Like, damn, the Kryptmac
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: dating Show would have been heat.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: A lot of even the comments were suggesting that idea,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: even though we'd already been talking about it.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: It was just such an obvious layup. I think, damn, yeah,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: are you actively looking for new hosts or is that
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: something where you kind of it's.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: Weird, because yes, but a lot of times the economics
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: of it are a little hard to wrap your head around.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: I think people think that like what we do just
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: prints a shit ton of money, like no, and it's like, well,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: it's really not the case.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: And I know plenty of people that have started basically
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: like clones of my business and seem to have like
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: a reality check at some point and be like, oh,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: so we're not gonna make any money and this is
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: gonna be really really fucking difficult. But yeah, like I
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: what the fuck we're saying?
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: So, like the math in my head is like it
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: would be great to put together another at the end
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: of the day, but I mean, what are you gonna like,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: Especially a lot of the people that I would like
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: to put together in one of these types of podcasts,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: I would have to.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: Like move them to La Okay, okay, so.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: Right there, Let's say that you got to pay somebody
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: if they're going to be doing multiple podcasts per week
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: or whatever. What do you got paying like fucking eight
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: ten grand a month that type.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: Of shit move somebody to town, yeah, because most people
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: aren't gonna leave their hometown unless it's a really it's
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: to survive in a place.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: Like exactly, if I say I'll give you five grand
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: a month to move out here, I mean that's gonna
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: pay for their rent and some food or whatever like.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: And if they're like a host, like an on camera
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: talent who probably has other opportunities or could just do
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: YouTube on their own, then that doesn't sound that appealing.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: So you gotta let's say you have to pay everybody
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: ten grand. Let's say I gotta pay ten grand a
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: month to three different people. Well, now you got to
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: figure out you're gonna make thirty thousand dollars a month.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: It's not easy off podcast. You're gonna have to really
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: kill it with the sponsors, and you're gonna have to
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: have them like be really in the zone. The podcast
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: is really gonna have to have like a hardcore fandom.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: I think I could probably do it, and hopefully we
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: do end up taking that sort of step this year,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: but it also might rely kind of on, like, oh,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: we might have to like really push the Patreon ankle,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: you know that type of thing, like maybe if we can,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: because if you make a piece of content that people
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: like are really signing up for the Patreon to see
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: bonus content or whatever, now it starts to make sense
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: outside of the sponsors and the ads.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: But for you guys do so much content because there's
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: no Jumper news every day. Yeah, money through Friday, so
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: it's like a Monday through Friday thing with usually three hosts, right,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: usually there's three more. But yeah, I mean so yeah,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: I mean that's your I mean yeah.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: That's already like its own thing. But that's good because
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: it gives us a way to test out talent, try
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: people out without having to throw people.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: Can you guys repurpose that for a news on Snapchat? Yeah, okay,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: that makes sense. So it makes a little bit more
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: money that way. Yeah, the Snapchat thing's lit. So thank
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: you for that, brother, thank you. No doubt. Snapchat's great.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: People don't know. And then I realize now that I
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: like know that Snapchat shows are a thing I'll be like,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: you know, the most random people have snapchat shows.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: And a lot of the snapchat shows are like their
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: old YouTube videos from twenty seventeen, re purchase, repurposed. Yeah,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: that's what people who make like evergreen content, like the
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: Professor the Basketball Dah Like he told me that his
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: Facebook is his biggest revenue stream, but he makes content
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: that you could see it six years after he filmed.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: That it still is. Yeah, he's just hooping.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: Even Logan paltol Me, he makes crazy amount of money
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: on Facebook, and it's like he's posting his vogs doing
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: shit that would never that he would never do now,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: and he's just putting it on Facebook and it still works.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: How's your relationship these days with ac Uh? We talk
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: pretty good amount. Yeah, I feel like you guys have
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: an interesting on camera dynamic where you know, he's obviously
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: cool Ad and those guys and right, but he's you know,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: he's obviously a trailblazer during during the the streaming era,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: if you will.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: It's kind of a funny switch between us because he
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: was kind of like getting involved when Ad and Trel
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: were all them were all there and stuff, and there
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: was a couple of times where he says something like, oh, like, ad,
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: you should be getting paid two hundred grand a year
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: at No Jumper, and that's like obviously he wasn't. So
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: he's kind of like and he's saying, like, I would
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: pay you guys this amount. Now you like fast forward
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: to like he's really pushing the academy thing and trying
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: to like build up his cast and everything.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: And I'm sure he's he's probably going through some of
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: the growing pains you had to go.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: I'm sure he's aware that it would be difficult for
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: him to pay any of those hosts twenty thousand dollars
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: a month or whatever. So I think he's he's realizing
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: the same thing that I kind of realized, which is
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: that the whole business model of like I'm gonna pay
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: a bunch of people to just make content on behalf
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: of my brand. I mean, it didn't work for Complex,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: like they weren't profitable with Joe Budden, and it didn't
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: work for a lot of people. Man, it didn't work
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: for a Revolt state of the culture and never went anywhere.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: And you're talking about like big Buddy, big names, and
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: meanwhile with like No Jumper, it's like well, we don't
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: have that as big of a budget. We can't afford
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: to just lose money for this long ass period of time.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: Sponsors don't oftentimes want to touch this sort of edgy
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: content with violence being discussed and sex being disgusting god
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: knows what.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: So hey shout out to our sponsor King Pom, who's
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: also a sponsor of No Jumper, King Palm Water.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: It's good water. Chug it, it's good water. That's my
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: slogan I made up for them now. But like, yeah,
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: King Pom is dope. But I just don't have a
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: lot of belief like I used to always say about
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: No Jumper, like No Jumper needs to be a network.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: We're gonna have all these hosts and they're gonna do
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: content and YadA YadA, and like we achieved that for
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: a while, but the finances were kind of wonky, and
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: I didn't really have my business down the way that
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: I should have, because I should have had contracts that
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: kind of prohibited a lot of the stuff that ended
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: up happening. And by the time that stuff happened and
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: they were talking about No Jumper drama on their streams
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: every day, it was like already kind of too far gone,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: and I realized that I didn't really there wasn't really
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: a way for me to reverse time and get back
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: to what I thought that the situation should be. But
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: when I look at all these other podcasts and platforms
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: and stuff, I don't see really most of them having
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: much success with it either. I mean, you have somebody
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: like Joe and I think he largely survives off Patreon.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: You know, yeah, he's gone. I mean he's gone through
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: it with trying to launch a network. I mean publicly,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: he had.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: A couple of different shows on there that didn't work
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: out and everything. So I don't have a ton of
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: faith in that. Like obviously we do have like Break
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: and Sharp and they're still doing content on No Jumper
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But it's definitely a tricky business
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: to be.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: In and right, yeah, yeah.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say I'm like really devoted to like I
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: have to find these hosts and I have to build
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: that more podcast because the business side of it is
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: just hard.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: What was for you, is it? Like obviously it has
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: to make sense for you financially to try to recreate
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: the magic on mailros and open a store.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I just miss having that sort of
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: spontaneity of just having a spot and being able to
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: do it.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: You just shot content there, right I just I think
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: I just saw I just.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: Do podcasts there some of the time. Like last well,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: last week Friday, I went there and did two interviews
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: throughout the day at the spot, and then Sunday I
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: came back in hung out on the block, did two
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: more interviews on the block. So I like just being
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  Speaker 1: able to be just like a certain energy to being
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  Speaker 1: on Melros And we're right next door to Deska Dub
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: and it is different than it was before because there's
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: just like a little bit less hype around everything. But
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: I mean we get to inherit a lot of the
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: hype that's kind of going on with Dub right there.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: So every time I'm out there on a Sunday and
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  Speaker 1: there's like a million people just standing out on the street,
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  Speaker 1: feels very good to have like a real community around
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  Speaker 1: feel like we get enough content through being out there
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  Speaker 1: that it's it's just good. Like Remo would be, like
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: they're having different artists come in just to film tiktoks
• 1:15:45
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• 1:15:47
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  Speaker 1: That's funny that a lot of people had that reaction.
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  Speaker 2: But he's yeah, But knowing him, I don't know, no,
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  Speaker 2: all that, I feel bad for him though, because him now,
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