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Speaker 1: Hi everybody. I'm Dan Horden. Thanks for downloading the Bengals
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Speaker 1: Booth Podcast. Bu I can see from Miles and Miles edition,
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Speaker 1: as the Bengals did the following at eleven thirty one
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Speaker 1: on Thursday Night, with the twenty eighth big in the
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty.
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Speaker 2: Three NFL Draft, the Cincinnati Bengals select Miles Murphy defensive.
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Speaker 1: And Clinson Coming up, you'll hear from Zach Taylor and
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Speaker 1: lou Anarumo on the newest Bengal and you'll also hear
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Speaker 1: what Miles Murphy had to say after being selected by Cincinnati.
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Speaker 1: Then I'll talk to my broadcast partner, Dave Lapham on
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Speaker 1: why Miles was the pick and what we think the
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Speaker 1: first round draft pick, Clemson defensive end Miles Murphy. He's
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Speaker 1: six four, two hundred and sixty eight pounds and ran
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Speaker 1: a four five three forty at his pro day. Murphy
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Speaker 1: had six and a half sacks last year, seven the
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Speaker 1: year before, and he's only twenty one years old. Dane
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Speaker 1: Brugler from the Athletic wrote the following about Murphy in
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Speaker 1: his Draft Guide quote. He is naturally gifted with the
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Speaker 1: explosive traits play, speed, and length to be a disruptive,
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Speaker 1: leverage power rusher in the NFL. He projects as a
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Speaker 1: base end and a four man front with the floor
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Speaker 1: of an NFL starter. Greg Cosel from NFL Films calls
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Speaker 1: Murphy a solid defensive end prospect with excellent size, length,
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Speaker 1: and overall athleticism who needs refinement work as an edge
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Speaker 1: pass rusher to become a high level player in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: Here's Bengals head coach Zach Taylor on getting Murphy at
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Speaker 1: pick number twenty eight.
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Speaker 3: This was in a scenario we thought was going to
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Speaker 3: play out for us, To be quite honest with you,
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Speaker 3: you know, it's anything can happen, and but you know,
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Speaker 3: in all of our discussions we had over the previous days,
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Speaker 3: I didn't think that Miles Murphy was gonna be there
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Speaker 3: at twenty eight. I think that's what you know, Duke
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Speaker 3: does a great job of is laying it out and
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Speaker 3: in talking about it. Five picks before, four picks before shoot.
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Speaker 3: I think eight picks before is when we really started
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Speaker 3: the conversation and you're watching guys get checked off the
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Speaker 3: board and some are. Sometimes it's a good thing, sometimes
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Speaker 3: it's a bad thing. But I think we had a
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Speaker 3: high degree of confidence that if he was there, we
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Speaker 3: were going to take him and feel really good about it.
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Speaker 3: He came in here on a visit, so we've met
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Speaker 3: with him a couple of times, felt really good about
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Speaker 3: all the things that come with that. So again, just
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Speaker 3: just excited that he was there. At twenty eight for us.
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Speaker 1: There were only three teams in the NFL that had
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Speaker 1: fewer sacks than Cincinnati last year, and the Bengals finished
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Speaker 1: twenty first in past rush win rate. Here's defensive coordinator
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Speaker 1: lou Anromo at how Murphy can help.
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Speaker 4: Oh, he'll be in the rotation right away. You know,
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Speaker 4: we play a ton of d linemens, so you know
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Speaker 4: he'll he'll jump right in there, and you know, you know,
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Speaker 4: back up Sam and Trey and and get right in there,
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Speaker 4: like I said, in the mix with those guys and
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Speaker 4: being the in the third down rush package and you know,
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Speaker 4: whatever we come up with there. So I'm looking forward
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Speaker 4: to get him going right away. These great quarterbacks we
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Speaker 4: have to play, if they're back there in a clean pocket,
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Speaker 4: they're gonna pick your part, no matter how well you're
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Speaker 4: covering them. So to move them around, to get them
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Speaker 4: off their spot, to sack them and pressure them and
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Speaker 4: hit them. That's the only way you really can affect
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Speaker 4: these guys. So he's just another one along the lines.
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Speaker 4: We've got some darn good ones already, as I mentioned
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Speaker 4: with Trey and Sam and Joseph and and that group.
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Speaker 4: So this guy will jump right in there. He checks
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Speaker 4: all the boxes from a measurable standpoint, and you add
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Speaker 4: that with his makeup as a as a guy and
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Speaker 4: as a player teammate, those things. You know, that's what
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Speaker 4: kind of brings was brought a high level of you
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Speaker 4: know that we liked them the way we did.
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Speaker 1: attend the draft in Kansas City. His family rented out
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Speaker 1: a club and hosted a party for roughly one hundred
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Speaker 1: and seventy people. Miles says he was thrilled to be
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Speaker 1: selected in the first round and go to a team
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Speaker 1: that's been to back to back AFC Championship games.
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Speaker 5: I'm gonna say, like they you know, they have they
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Speaker 5: have all the pieces to be a consistent two of
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Speaker 5: old contender AFC Championship contender. But I just want to
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Speaker 5: be that. I do want to be that finishing piece
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Speaker 5: piece that you know, just you know, put push them over,
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Speaker 5: puts them over over, and pass that lest being a
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Speaker 5: consistent Super Bowl contender and it conses the Super Bowl
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Speaker 5: winner every year.
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Speaker 2: One thing that defensive coordinator lou Ana Rimo said in
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Speaker 2: his press conference a couple of minutes ago Miles was
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Speaker 2: that he expects you to come in and contribute right away.
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Speaker 2: What gives you the confidence and what in your career
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Speaker 2: at Clemson leads you to believe you'll be able to
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Speaker 2: contribute right away in your rookie year.
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Speaker 5: Well, that's that's been my expectation for the longest. About
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Speaker 5: to say ever since school. I had a mission to
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Speaker 5: come in and start dominate every year that I was
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Speaker 5: in college, and I still have a mission to come
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Speaker 5: in and do what I need to do to dominate
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Speaker 5: every down that's that's my that's all I've been my mission,
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Speaker 5: I was going to be my mission moving forward.
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Speaker 1: I imagine you've dreamed of this moment for a long time.
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Speaker 1: Can you describe the phone call it was?
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Speaker 5: I can't. I can't even explain it to you. It
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Speaker 5: was a whole bunch of emotions going for my body.
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Speaker 5: I was I was really shaken on the phone call.
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Speaker 5: I couldn't even tew words thout, but really just exciting. Really,
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Speaker 5: I'm just ready to play football. I just want to
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Speaker 5: play football, man. That's really, that's really my initial reaction
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Speaker 5: to man. I just I want to play football. Let's
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Speaker 5: be taking wherever, wherever, at whatever number, wherever I'm playing.
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Speaker 5: I just want to play football, man. That's all I
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Speaker 5: want to do right now.
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Speaker 6: These visits kind of run all together.
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Speaker 7: But when you left your visit with the Bengals, did
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Speaker 7: you have a good feeling that you might be in
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Speaker 7: play for them?
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Speaker 5: I mean I had a good knowing that they liked me.
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Speaker 5: And when I was jail, I really loved the city,
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Speaker 5: love the coaches. Already already knew ulin coach did, so
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Speaker 5: you know, I feel comfortable when I was at a
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Speaker 5: whole time.
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Speaker 1: for analysis of Round one and look ahead to Friday,
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Speaker 1: second and third rounds with Dave Lapham Lap. One of
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Speaker 1: the best cornerbacks was still on the board, Joey Porter Junior.
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Speaker 1: He was ranked number sixteen on Dame Brugler's board, six
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Speaker 1: three thirty four inch arms. Everybody seemed to think he
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Speaker 1: was going to be a first round pick.
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Speaker 6: Obviously.
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Speaker 1: The great tight end from Comington Catholic High School and
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Speaker 1: Notre Dame, Michael Meyer, was still on the board. He
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Speaker 1: had been mocked to Cincinnati on various mock drafts forever,
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Speaker 1: but they went with a pass rusher in Miles Murphy.
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Speaker 7: Why well, you know, Dan, I think we talked about,
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Speaker 7: you know, during the course of our interviews with each
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Speaker 7: other leading up to the draft. That has definitely become
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Speaker 7: a quarterback driven league, not that it wasn't before. When
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Speaker 7: you're paying guys fifty million a year, you know, it's
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Speaker 7: like that. That's that's where the game is. The game
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Speaker 7: is in the air, there's no doubt about it. So
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Speaker 7: you try to do everything you possibly can to affect
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Speaker 7: the quarterback. The Bengals have one of the best in
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Speaker 7: the NFL and Joe Burrow, but in the a SC
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Speaker 7: there's Patrick Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers, now josh Allen, Lamar Jackson's
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Speaker 7: reapted with Baltimore Herbert to Lawrence Watson. You know, he's
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Speaker 7: got the most guaranteed money of anybody up in Cleveland.
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Speaker 7: They're expecting big things out of him. Denver just expecting
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Speaker 7: a rebound season from Wilson. So, I mean, the AFC
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Speaker 7: is loaded with outstanding quarterbacks that are capable of out
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Speaker 7: standing quarterback play. So two, the thing you have to
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Speaker 7: do is pressure them, get them off their spot, hasten
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Speaker 7: their reads, make them make poor, poorer decisions. And you know,
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Speaker 7: so you need edge rush guys, and you need corners
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Speaker 7: to make the windows tighter. And there's a good chance
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Speaker 7: they'll probably go corner, maybe in round two potentially instead
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Speaker 7: of the order being corner then edge rusher.
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Speaker 6: They've got their edge rusher.
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Speaker 7: Now they may think corner because you know, when you
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Speaker 7: look at it, Dan, in the top one hundred picks,
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Speaker 7: fifteen corners were projected to potentially go in those top
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Speaker 7: one hundred picks the first two days of the draft,
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Speaker 7: and at this point in time only four are off
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Speaker 7: the board, which is pretty remarkable.
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Speaker 6: So at some point here there's.
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Speaker 7: Going to be a run on corners, and you just
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Speaker 7: wonder and hope that it doesn't take place before the
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Speaker 7: Bengals are maybe ready for a selection at number sixty.
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Speaker 7: But fourteen offensive players went off the board, seventeen defensive
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Speaker 7: players went off the board. The Bengals were a participant
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Speaker 7: in the biggest participatory position, edge rush. Seven edge rush
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Speaker 7: guys go off the board in round one.
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Speaker 1: That's pretty telling. Miles Murphy's sack numbers were solid, but
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Speaker 1: not spectacular. He had seventeen and a half sex in
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Speaker 1: his three years, but he had thirty seven tackles for
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Speaker 1: loss double digits every year. He forced six fumbles. He
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Speaker 1: just celebrated his twenty first birthday on January third. At
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Speaker 1: his pro day, he measured sixty four to two hundred
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Speaker 1: and seventy one pounds. He ran a four five three forty.
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Speaker 1: Let's put that in perspective. Cooper Cup ran a four
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Speaker 1: to six to two at the Combine several years ago.
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Speaker 1: So this guy is a freak. I think he's been
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Speaker 1: a very solid player, but obviously there's still the potential
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Speaker 1: for him to elevate his game and become more dominant.
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Speaker 7: No doubt, Dan, I mean, and the guy not only
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Speaker 7: does he have the long speed, a two hundred and
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Speaker 7: seventy pound guy running four to five come on, oh
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Speaker 7: my gosh, he's got you know, he's got the short
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Speaker 7: space quickness, he's got the short space agility you know,
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Speaker 7: to go along with it. And he's an explosive player.
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Speaker 7: He's a disruptive player. He can kind of trait and
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Speaker 7: riek havoc. And the tackles for loss that you're referencing,
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Speaker 7: not just the quarterback sacks. Two Power five players recorded
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Speaker 7: at least thirty five tackles for lost and at least
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Speaker 7: six to four s fumbles across the last three college
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Speaker 7: football seasons. He was one of them. He's the only
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Speaker 7: player in the country to produce at least ten tackles
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Speaker 7: for lost and at least one forced bumble in each
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Speaker 7: of the last three seasons. So he's done it, and
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Speaker 7: he's done it consistently. Not a one hit wonder, not
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Speaker 7: one year of like amazing productivity, but every single year
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Speaker 7: he'll give it to you.
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Speaker 6: And I agree.
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Speaker 7: At twenty one years old, I mean, his best football
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Speaker 7: is still way ahead of him. So there's development there,
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Speaker 7: there's upside potential there. And when you look at it, Dan,
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Speaker 7: the Bengals organization has had success drafting Clemson players. They've
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Speaker 7: had coaches from Clemson. In fact, coach Hobby, the defensive
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Speaker 7: line coach, knows Miles Murphy and his ability's pretty darn well.
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Speaker 7: And when you've had success with coaches and players from
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Speaker 7: a university or college, you keep going back to it.
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Speaker 7: And the Bengals have gone on record saying we like
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Speaker 7: to draft players from big schools that have achieved and
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Speaker 7: earned success. And they won national championships and played at
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Speaker 7: the highest level. And so it's all worked and they
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Speaker 7: went to the Clemson.
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Speaker 1: Well again, let's talk about Miles Murphy's role. This year.
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Speaker 1: Sam Hubbard played more than eight hundred snaps in the
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Speaker 1: regular season. Last year, he was in on nearly eighty
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Speaker 1: percent of the Bengals defensive snaps. He'll be twenty eight
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Speaker 1: in June. Trey Hendrickson has already twenty eight. He played
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Speaker 1: six hundred and twenty nine snaps in the regular season,
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Speaker 1: even though he missed a game due to injury, and
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Speaker 1: he battled injuries throughout much of the year. How helpful
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Speaker 1: is it to those guy to get those two guys
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Speaker 1: to get somebody else in the rotation that can legitimately
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Speaker 1: not only pressure the quarterback, but it's big enough to
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Speaker 1: play the run if needed.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's it's massive, it really is. I mean,
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Speaker 7: you keep guys fresh, you know, in the second half
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Speaker 7: and in the fourth quarter. In the National Football League
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Speaker 7: usually games are one score games, so you need guys
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Speaker 7: to to to be able to just you know, put
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Speaker 7: on that burst one needed in that fourth quarter and uh,
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Speaker 7: you know you don't usually experience. Oh let's stick it
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Speaker 7: and cruise control and just cruise through the rest of
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Speaker 7: this football game. I mean, you're you're playing at an
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Speaker 7: intense level every single snap and in most NFL football games,
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Speaker 7: so you cannot have enough good edge rush people, interior
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Speaker 7: defensive alignement, cornerbacks in coverage and uh. You know, in
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Speaker 7: speaking about how the numbers uh went down with respect
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Speaker 7: to the draft defensive tackles and edge rush guys, you
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Speaker 7: know you had eleven guys already off the board for
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Speaker 7: defense tackles, seven edge rush guys, four cornerbacks. That's fifteen
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Speaker 7: players right there on the defensive side of it. You
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Speaker 7: want to have as many of them as you possibly
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Speaker 7: can on your roster, There's no.
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Speaker 6: Doubt about it.
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Speaker 7: And the thing is lou Aana Rumo uses them all.
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Speaker 7: And the versatility that Miles Murphy provides. With that athleticism,
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Speaker 7: lou Ana Roumo has got another chess piece to work with.
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Speaker 7: He can play on the edge, he can kick inside,
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Speaker 7: he can cover in the flat. And when now that
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Speaker 7: Jackson has re signed with Baltimore, that five defensive lineman package,
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Speaker 7: you got a lot of guys out there and you
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Speaker 7: want to rotate guys in there. And Miles Murphy with
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Speaker 7: that four five forty, he's got the short space quickness
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Speaker 7: to effect Lamar Jackson. He can also run him down.
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Speaker 7: You know, He's got the speed and to run people
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Speaker 7: down on the football field. He's got short space quickness
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Speaker 7: and he's got long speed. That's a heck of a combination.
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Speaker 7: And a guy that's both to six ' five and
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Speaker 7: probably over two hundred and seventy pounds.
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Speaker 6: That's it's remarkable.
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Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah had Murphy at number twenty one on his
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Speaker 1: final big board. Who was the same for Dane Brugler
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Speaker 1: from the Athletic number twenty one on his final big board.
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Speaker 1: Do you figure that the Bengals Can we take them
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Speaker 1: at their word when they say that they had him
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Speaker 1: grated much higher than number twenty eight?
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Speaker 6: Yeah? I think so.
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Speaker 7: You know, in the in the pressure last night and
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Speaker 7: asked him where in the first round did you say,
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Speaker 7: Miles Murphy, we'd like this to be our guy, and
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Speaker 7: when did you target him? And they said, like a
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Speaker 7: round pick twenty. You know, it was like, boy, Miles
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Speaker 7: Murphy's still there. Let's this is the guy we want.
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Speaker 7: They covered Miles Murphy. Let's go after Miles Murphy. There
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Speaker 7: he was at twenty eight, and there probably were some
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Speaker 7: phone calls about, you know, about trading back. They decided
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Speaker 7: not to do that and they made that pick, I
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Speaker 7: mean a minute and they were all over it.
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Speaker 2: There was.
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Speaker 7: All the decisions have been made. They ran up to
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Speaker 7: that ran up to the to the hit hand, that
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Speaker 7: pick in as fast as they possibly could, and Miles
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Speaker 7: Murphy is now Cincinnati Bengal.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's look ahead to rounds two and three
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Speaker 1: coming up on Friday night. You mentioned the corners, A
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Speaker 1: lot of them still there. Joey Porter still on the board.
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Speaker 1: I can't imagine he will get to pick sixty, but
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Speaker 1: he's there for now. But you've still got Keeley Ringo,
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Speaker 1: DJ Turner, Julius Brandts, Tyreek, Stevenson, Cam Smith, Clark Phillips,
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Speaker 1: and others. There are a lot of tight ends still
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Speaker 1: on the board. Sam Laporta, Luke Musgrave, Tucker Kraft, Luke Schoonmaker,
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Speaker 1: Josh Wiley, Will Mallory. You've got a lot of running
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Speaker 1: backs still on the board, Zach Sharbonay, Devin ad Shane,
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Speaker 1: Taja Spears, Take Bigsby Roe, Sean Johnson. Do you figure
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Speaker 1: the Bengals second round pick will come from one of
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Speaker 1: those positions? And if so, which one do you think
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Speaker 1: is most likely?
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Speaker 6: Yeah?
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Speaker 7: You know all the quote experts and then others that
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Speaker 7: I talked to, I mean, top one hundred picks. Ten
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Speaker 7: to twelve tight ends, all right, might be available. One
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Speaker 7: is off the board at this point in time. Fifteen
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Speaker 7: cornerbacks may be available. Four or off the board at
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Speaker 7: this point in time. You know, you got to think, man,
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Speaker 7: you know we've already took an edge guy, took took
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Speaker 7: you know, the twelve defensive ends, ten defensive tackles, twenty
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Speaker 7: two down linemen might be available in the top one
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Speaker 7: hundred picks, half of them have already been consumed. So
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Speaker 7: you know, our thought, Dan, I think we were in
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Speaker 7: the same school of thought that it was, you know,
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Speaker 7: going to be defense, alright, defecting the quarterbacks. Like we
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Speaker 7: already talked about somebody on the edge and somebody in
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Speaker 7: the back end and might have been corner first and
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Speaker 7: then edge rush guy might reverse itself out, could be
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Speaker 7: edge guy and then corner. So there's a good chance, no,
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Speaker 7: there could be a cornerback that that that might be available.
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Speaker 7: But you know, you look at it, there's there's positions
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Speaker 7: that have not been addressed. There has not been a
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Speaker 7: safety drafted. There's not been a center drafted, has not
19:12
Speaker 7: been a guard drafted. But on the back end, there's
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Speaker 7: not been a safety drafted, So all of those safeties
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Speaker 7: are in play as well. And a lot of those
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Speaker 7: safeties can play slot corner and they give position versatility.
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Speaker 7: A lot of them aren't just you know, you know,
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Speaker 7: big bodied, very stiff safeties on the back end.
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Speaker 6: These guys are very versatile football players.
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Speaker 7: And lou Anroumo once again, there's a lot of things
19:37
Speaker 7: with those safeties back there in terms of his his
19:41
Speaker 7: big chess board. So they've got they've got options. They've
19:44
Speaker 7: got options back there that have not in some cases
19:47
Speaker 7: haven't even been addressed whatsoever. No safeties, one tight end,
19:53
Speaker 7: just four corners. It'll be very interesting to see when
19:57
Speaker 7: the runs start and the order that they start in.
19:59
Speaker 7: But Levis is on the board still mayor quarter branch
20:04
Speaker 7: like you talked about. I mean, that's gonna everybody's resetting
20:08
Speaker 7: their boards and they're saying, wow, we didn't expect this
20:11
Speaker 7: gotta be there, This gotta be there. It's gonna push
20:13
Speaker 7: some people back in the Bengals, it might be quite
20:17
Speaker 7: interesting to see what's unearthed and left at number sixty.
20:21
Speaker 1: We did not get our wishes in round one. You
20:24
Speaker 1: had targeted two players, Lucas van Ness, the pass rusher,
20:28
Speaker 1: out of Iowa. He went thirteenth to Green Bay. You
20:30
Speaker 1: also liked Emmanuel Forbes, the cornerback from Mississippi State. He
20:33
Speaker 1: went sixteenth to Washington. I had ultimately settled on Elijah Cansei,
20:38
Speaker 1: the defensive tackle from pitt He went nineteenth to Tampa Bay.
20:42
Speaker 1: So our three guys all went in the top twenty.
20:44
Speaker 1: I think we're kind of an agreement for who we
20:47
Speaker 1: have our fingers crossed about for round two, and that
20:50
Speaker 1: is tight end Sam Laporta out of Iowa. If he
20:53
Speaker 1: could somehow make it to number sixty, I'd look at
20:56
Speaker 1: him and I see Mark Andrews, the great receiving weapon
20:59
Speaker 1: for the Baltimore Ravens. Is that your guy? Are we
21:02
Speaker 1: in agreement that Sam Laporta would kind of be the
21:04
Speaker 1: fantasy if he somehow makes it to sixty.
21:07
Speaker 6: I mean he's got to be in the discussion.
21:09
Speaker 7: I mean if he makes it to six yet, you
21:11
Speaker 7: know you think he'd be gone somewhere in the mid forties.
21:15
Speaker 7: Uh at the worst case scenario with just one tight
21:18
Speaker 7: end off the board at this point in time, well,
21:20
Speaker 7: you know, will when will the tight end run happen?
21:23
Speaker 6: Uh? There's going to be a run.
21:25
Speaker 7: Uh, but yeah, Laporte is a guy that got good
21:30
Speaker 7: sized uh sub four six runs in the four fives.
21:34
Speaker 7: He's a very good hands, good after the catch. A
21:39
Speaker 7: lot of mistackles, a lot of broken tackles comes from Iowa.
21:44
Speaker 7: You know, you got Kittle, you got TJ. Howkinson. There's
21:46
Speaker 7: a there's a pedigree there being a tight end from Iowa.
21:50
Speaker 7: He did not his senior year, did not have much
21:54
Speaker 7: at the quarterback position. His numbers suffered as a result.
21:58
Speaker 7: But this guy, in my mind, is a complete football player,
22:03
Speaker 7: and I'd like to see them them draft Laporta if
22:07
Speaker 7: he's there, there's no doubt Dan, But you know, if
22:09
Speaker 7: there's if there's a corner that's you know, looming there,
22:13
Speaker 7: and it's like, man, the run on corners hasn't happened,
22:16
Speaker 7: and other things took place first. I would think too,
22:20
Speaker 7: that offensive tackle has been has been addressed by a
22:25
Speaker 7: few people for offensive tackles off the board, but that's
22:29
Speaker 7: not that's not a huge number. And you know there
22:32
Speaker 7: might be an offensive tackle sitting there. I think that
22:35
Speaker 7: our boy from Syracuse brosi'ren sitting there. If he makes
22:40
Speaker 7: it down to sixty, that guy I'd be I would
22:43
Speaker 7: not have a problem with them drafting Syracuse offensive tackle
22:47
Speaker 7: at number sixty.
22:49
Speaker 1: Well, how about Dewan Jones, the six eight, three hundred
22:52
Speaker 1: and seventy four pound tackle from Ohio State. I know,
22:55
Speaker 1: because of his weight, he's a little bit polarizing. Some
22:58
Speaker 1: people say buy or beware, But there were other points
23:01
Speaker 1: during the draft process where people had him mocked in
23:04
Speaker 1: the first round to Cincinnati.
23:06
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I think that's the reason that he's still
23:08
Speaker 7: there Dan, because he was three seventy something for the combine.
23:13
Speaker 7: But I've heard recently he waited at three ninety three,
23:16
Speaker 7: so he's approaching four hundred and he could he could
23:20
Speaker 7: be four to ten, four fifteen. He could be one
23:24
Speaker 7: of those kind of guys because he is one massive man.
23:28
Speaker 6: I mean every.
23:29
Speaker 7: Way you can be big, this man is big, enormous, enormous.
23:36
Speaker 7: I mean it's like he's incredible. It's almost like when
23:41
Speaker 7: you thought guys like that were extinct, you know, back
23:45
Speaker 7: in the in the dinosaur era.
23:47
Speaker 6: He is one big dude.
23:51
Speaker 1: So the Bengals don't want to move up, They would
23:54
Speaker 1: rather move back and get extra picks. I think that's
23:57
Speaker 1: true about just about any team in the NFL. But
23:59
Speaker 1: if you look at last year, they wanted a corner.
24:03
Speaker 1: When they got to the second round, there was only
24:05
Speaker 1: one that they thought was worthy of being selected, Cam
24:08
Speaker 1: Taylor Britt, so they moved up.
24:09
Speaker 6: Yep.
24:10
Speaker 1: Could you see a scenario this year? Same thing? Cornerbacks.
24:13
Speaker 1: They want a corner if they want to add depth
24:15
Speaker 1: to that position group. I mentioned some of the names
24:17
Speaker 1: that are still there. If one of those guys and
24:20
Speaker 1: only one is left and they're you know, seven or
24:23
Speaker 1: eight picks away, could you see it?
24:28
Speaker 7: I could see it, but don't expect it. You know,
24:31
Speaker 7: you're only having seven picks. Those those those draft picks
24:35
Speaker 7: you want to you want to try to hold on
24:38
Speaker 7: to if you possibly can. If it doesn't work out
24:41
Speaker 7: in the second round, you have to project to the
24:42
Speaker 7: third what's going to be there in the third round,
24:45
Speaker 7: and there'll still be some guys, you know, there that
24:47
Speaker 7: they could probably work with in the third round. So
24:51
Speaker 7: the one thing that we've talked about at nauseum with
24:55
Speaker 7: this football team is their ability to be patient and pivot.
25:01
Speaker 7: And you know, I think that's one of the biggest
25:04
Speaker 7: reasons they're one of the top three teams, if not
25:07
Speaker 7: the top team in the NFL. With their fifty three
25:10
Speaker 7: man roster. You know, they have a remarkable ability to
25:16
Speaker 7: have you know, multiple plans, playing AB through Z or whatever,
25:20
Speaker 7: and they're patient and they'll pivot when necessary. So I
25:26
Speaker 7: expect them to do the same thing. But man, wasn't
25:29
Speaker 7: it the wild wild West last night? Or what? Fourteen
25:33
Speaker 7: of the thirty one picks last night had trade involvement,
25:36
Speaker 7: fourteen of the thirty one. I mean, it was wild
25:40
Speaker 7: last night. Man, it was crazy.
25:43
Speaker 1: Nothing was crazier than when Jamiir Gibbs went twelfth to Detroit.
25:47
Speaker 1: I did not see that coming at all.
25:50
Speaker 7: And they they they jumped around like everybody in the
25:53
Speaker 7: league was after him. I mean that Detroit room after
25:57
Speaker 7: they picked and picked them was like all it's ecstatic, celebratory,
26:01
Speaker 7: and it's like, man, we you know we got I
26:04
Speaker 7: guess you know, they targeted a guy that speed kills
26:07
Speaker 7: in the National Football League. It kills in general in
26:10
Speaker 7: any sport, but in the National Football League it is.
26:13
Speaker 7: It's a massive weapon. And this kid's got that. There's
26:16
Speaker 7: no doubt. I mean, they check it down. Seven yard
26:21
Speaker 7: reception turns into seven yard touchdowns with a guy like that.
26:26
Speaker 1: All right, Miles Murphy is a Bengal. We're excited to
26:30
Speaker 1: meet him when he gets to town on Saturday. In
26:32
Speaker 1: the meantime, do some homework and we'll do another version
26:36
Speaker 1: of one of these conversations after runs two and three.
26:40
Speaker 7: I like it, Dan, I like it a lot. And
26:43
Speaker 7: off to a good start, you know. I mean, as
26:47
Speaker 7: the old saying goes can never have enough good pass rushers,
26:51
Speaker 7: can never.
26:51
Speaker 6: Have enough good cover guys. And the Bengals got themselves
26:55
Speaker 6: another pass rusher.
26:56
Speaker 7: And honestly, the traits this guy has, it's.
27:01
Speaker 6: It is crazy.
27:02
Speaker 7: And Dan, he's only, like you said earlier, he's only
27:04
Speaker 7: twenty one years old. I mean, he's twenty four to
27:07
Speaker 7: twenty five years old. His body's I mean how big,
27:13
Speaker 7: he's long, that he's not gonna shrink. He's long, he's strong,
27:17
Speaker 7: gonna he's gonna he's gonna mature, he's gonna get stronger.
27:21
Speaker 7: I mean, man, guy's limits for this young man, there's
27:24
Speaker 7: no doubt.
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