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- 0:02Speaker 1: Peter Krendland live on skying In's Australia.
- 0:08Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to Credlin. Steve Price with you this
- 0:10Speaker 2: week and the news that Peter will be back with
- 0:12Speaker 2: you next Monday. Here's what's coming up on Credlin tonight.
- 0:17Speaker 2: In the middle of a youth crime wave in Victoria,
- 0:19Speaker 2: what does the Victorian labor government do to fix an
- 0:22Speaker 2: issue that's forcing people to install Fort Knox like security
- 0:27Speaker 2: and who are fearful of machete wielding intruders? What do
- 0:30Speaker 2: they do well? A plan to increase the age of
- 0:32Speaker 2: criminal responsibility from ten to twelve on the way to fourteen.
- 0:37Speaker 2: Absolute madness from an australbanze. He's much vaunted visit by
- 0:42Speaker 2: senior Chinese Communist Party premier has been marred by protests,
- 0:46Speaker 2: heavy handed tactics on our own cheng Lai and even
- 0:49Speaker 2: today in Perth, the PM kept waiting for over half
- 0:52Speaker 2: an hour for his guest to arrive. It's all turned
- 0:55Speaker 2: pretty sour. Andrew Clenell will update us on that shortly.
- 1:00Speaker 2: Our kindergarten kids are being force fed programs focusing on
- 1:05Speaker 2: indigenous rights, sexuality, and a local study finds that's exactly
- 1:09Speaker 2: what's happening in the IPA coming up with some information
- 1:13Speaker 2: on that, plus interest rates on hold but inflation sticking.
- 1:17Speaker 2: As we head to the end of the financial year,
- 1:19Speaker 2: we check in with Sky's Ross Grimwood with a New
- 1:22Speaker 2: South Wales state budget out today as well, but first up.
- 1:27Speaker 2: As we tear into a new week, and as Melbourne
- 1:29Speaker 2: shivers through its coldest start to the day for the
- 1:32Speaker 2: entire year, the argument on affordable, reliable baseload power has
- 1:37Speaker 2: today gone to a new level. Peter Dutton, the Opposition leader,
- 1:40Speaker 2: is being relentless over pushing his alternatives and prosecuting the
- 1:45Speaker 2: case for nuclear While on the south coast of New
- 1:48Speaker 2: South Wales, and we'll talk at length about this coming
- 1:51Speaker 2: up shortly, a planned massive and I mean massive wind
- 1:55Speaker 2: turbine offshore that dwarfs anything we've ever talked about ever.
- 2:00Speaker 2: While in Victoria on a very basic air on the
- 2:04Speaker 2: ground example of the roadblock's renewable energy development is going
- 2:08Speaker 2: to encounter the CFA, the Victorian equivalent of the RFS
- 2:12Speaker 2: in New South Wales. They've announced today that they will
- 2:16Speaker 2: refuse to fight fires on land hosting high voltage transmission lines,
- 2:22Speaker 2: solar or wind farms over what they call the state
- 2:26Speaker 2: government's reckless renewable expansion. Now, according to the Herald Sun,
- 2:30Speaker 2: today at least twenty four brigades will take what amounts
- 2:33Speaker 2: to a firefighting boycott around such projects, with most covering
- 2:38Speaker 2: acreage hosting the giant New South Wales to Victoria interconnector
- 2:44Speaker 2: transmission line. Now, Victoria, by the way, has an even
- 2:47Speaker 2: more pie in the sky renewable timetable. They're aiming for
- 2:51Speaker 2: ninety five percent of renewable energy in Victoria by twenty
- 2:55Speaker 2: thirty five. That's about ten years one as of today,
- 2:58Speaker 2: by the way, with the no wind cloud cover, and
- 3:02Speaker 2: eighty five percent of electricity in the state of Victoria
- 3:04Speaker 2: today was being generated by colon gas. So what will
- 3:08Speaker 2: this boycott or ban mean in practice, Well, the CFA
- 3:12Speaker 2: units will only enter renewable energy sites if lives are
- 3:18Speaker 2: at risk, and they will restrict the fighting to otherwise
- 3:21Speaker 2: property perimitted defense. In other words, a bushfire would be
- 3:25Speaker 2: allowed to burn down a solar farm, but stock and
- 3:28Speaker 2: crops and property nearby would be protected as they are
- 3:31Speaker 2: now by the CFA. This is a big stick from
- 3:34Speaker 2: the CFA, but remember the vast bulk of CFA firefighters
- 3:39Speaker 2: are volunteers. They're from the bush, from local farming communities.
- 3:42Speaker 2: They lived there quite properly. They're using this threat to
- 3:46Speaker 2: say to the Labour government in Victoria, Look, you are
- 3:49Speaker 2: riding roughshd over our towns and our farms and you
- 3:53Speaker 2: need to stop and talk to us or else. Now.
- 3:56Speaker 2: I say good luck to the CFA crews. And I've
- 3:58Speaker 2: been warning as peace has been that this rush to
- 4:01Speaker 2: renewables with no regard to farming communities was always going
- 4:06Speaker 2: to end in tears. And what about that quote from
- 4:08Speaker 2: a CFA member from Sanana today, He said, quote, our
- 4:13Speaker 2: brigades are not prepared to defend renewable infrastructure that destroys
- 4:19Speaker 2: our communities, carves up our land and reduces our productive
- 4:23Speaker 2: capacity and divides people. Well said, the brigades went onto
- 4:28Speaker 2: warn they have no hope of fighting wind turbine fires
- 4:31Speaker 2: and are struggling to deal with fires sparked by isolated
- 4:35Speaker 2: power lines that could turn Victoria into a new Ash
- 4:38Speaker 2: Wednesday or Black Saturday. Those deadly blazers caused billions of dollars,
- 4:42Speaker 2: killed hundreds of people and cause massive, massive damage forever.
- 4:46Speaker 2: You can't underestimate the seriousness of this threat. There are
- 4:49Speaker 2: already twoy three hundred wind turbines in Victoria, thousands more
- 4:55Speaker 2: around the rest of Australia, especially in New South Wales,
- 4:58Speaker 2: and we will talk offshore turbine and shortly the CFA
- 5:02Speaker 2: promise not to fight fires on these towers makes sense
- 5:06Speaker 2: when you study engineering reports that show that once one
- 5:11Speaker 2: of these things catches fire or light, the chances of
- 5:15Speaker 2: externally fighting that fire are quote very slim due to
- 5:19Speaker 2: the height of the turbine and the remoteness of the locations.
- 5:22Speaker 2: So in simple terms, we are planning. We as in
- 5:25Speaker 2: Canberra and state governments are planning to carpet bomb regional
- 5:29Speaker 2: Australia with turbines and solar panels and then plow high
- 5:33Speaker 2: voltage transmission lines right through the middle of farms, national
- 5:36Speaker 2: parks and native forests to connect it all together. And
- 5:40Speaker 2: then we're going to sit back, hope and pray that
- 5:43Speaker 2: in a country where summer temperatures naturally reach forty degrees
- 5:47Speaker 2: plus that a fire doesn't start. What madness is that?
- 5:51Speaker 2: And you watch these city based green tinge pollis run
- 5:54Speaker 2: for the hills. The first time we get another ash Wednesday,
- 5:57Speaker 2: you won't see them for dust or should I say smoke.
- 6:00Speaker 2: Imagine what the installers of these things, the renewable companies,
- 6:04Speaker 2: will be charged to actually ensure them against turbine and
- 6:08Speaker 2: solar panel fires. And guess where that costal land? Yep,
- 6:11Speaker 2: right on your power bill. Incredibly, the Victorian Emergency Services Minister,
- 6:16Speaker 2: a woman by the name of Jacqueline Symes, in reaction
- 6:19Speaker 2: to the CFA threat her office said today quote, there
- 6:23Speaker 2: are no records of transmission lines ever starting a bushfire
- 6:27Speaker 2: in Victoria. Well, granted, the Minister is correct in saying
- 6:31Speaker 2: there's no record of transmission lines causing a bush fire,
- 6:35Speaker 2: but for God's sake, the Black Saturday Bushfire Royal Commission
- 6:39Speaker 2: found that the fires began with the Kilmore East Fire
- 6:43Speaker 2: when fallen power lines started a blaze on farmland at
- 6:46Speaker 2: eleven forty seven am. But it's not hard to see
- 6:48Speaker 2: why regional communities might be living in constant fear of
- 6:52Speaker 2: more potential hazards, especially when they're given so little consolation.
- 6:56Speaker 2: And for the first time, these massive electricity lines are
- 7:00Speaker 2: being plowed through remote bush land and national parks, and
- 7:03Speaker 2: we all know too well how little real government money
- 7:07Speaker 2: goes into backburning in these locations. Praying you won't get
- 7:11Speaker 2: a fire during construction or a really hot summer. Is foolish.
- 7:16Speaker 2: I'd start if I was the state government dealing with
- 7:18Speaker 2: the farmers, dealing with the CFA as a matter of urgency.
- 7:22Speaker 2: If I were, you, can you people actually read? What's
- 7:25Speaker 2: the point of a multimillion dollar royal commission if you
- 7:28Speaker 2: ignore its findings about power lines, global warming hysteria from
- 7:32Speaker 2: highly paid people who've got absolutely no clue, Let's said
- 7:40Speaker 2: to Cameron for tonight's political headlines With Sky News Political
- 7:43Speaker 2: Report at Treaty Macintosh.
- 7:46Speaker 3: The Chinese premier wraps up his high stakes tour of
- 7:48Speaker 3: Australia today, the focus on the resource rich West Lee
- 7:52Speaker 3: Chang visited a lithium factory, met big business bosses before
- 7:56Speaker 3: dropping by Kings Park's iconic lookout prayer from Walk hung
- 8:01Speaker 3: Low and a hurrying over here.
- 8:04Speaker 2: Thank you?
- 8:04Speaker 4: Have you reprimanded your people? Premier leave for what happened
- 8:07Speaker 4: in Parliament House.
- 8:07Speaker 3: Today's events overshadowed by the treatment of Sky Newe journalist
- 8:11Speaker 3: Chung Lay by Chinese officials in Parliament yesterday.
- 8:14Speaker 5: Our officials have followed up with the Chinese embassy to
- 8:17Speaker 5: express our concern.
- 8:19Speaker 6: Please grow a backbone stand up for our country.
- 8:21Speaker 3: A sigh of relief for borrowers after today's Reserve Bank meeting,
- 8:24Speaker 3: but be warned a rate increase could be on the cards.
- 8:27Speaker 3: The cash rate remains steady at four point three five percent,
- 8:30Speaker 3: but the Governor revealing.
- 8:32Speaker 7: The board did discuss the case for increasing interst rates
- 8:35Speaker 7: at this meeting.
- 8:36Speaker 3: Ultimately, the RBA decided against it, concerned on the one
- 8:40Speaker 3: hand about the jump in monthly inflation, but noting the
- 8:43Speaker 3: economy appears on the brink of recession. The next meeting
- 8:46Speaker 3: in August will take into account the crucial June quarter
- 8:49Speaker 3: inflation figures.
- 8:50Speaker 7: It's very difficult to get a read on momentum, and.
- 8:54Speaker 3: The fight within the coalition over the role of renewables
- 8:57Speaker 3: to reduce emissions is heading up. The Nationals leader wants
- 9:00Speaker 3: to abandon large scale renewable projects, so.
- 9:03Speaker 8: Why wouldn't we spread our energy eggs across different different baskets.
- 9:07Speaker 3: He argues prime agricultural land as being sacrificed to achieve
- 9:11Speaker 3: Australia's emission reduction goals.
- 9:13Speaker 8: Just say to those viewers that are from Tilsey's, just
- 9:16Speaker 8: take a little visit out west and understand the burden
- 9:19Speaker 8: you're asking us to bear.
- 9:21Speaker 3: Not all of his colleagues are on the same page.
- 9:24Speaker 1: There is absolutely a place for large scale renewables. It's
- 9:27Speaker 1: an important part of the mix that will help us
- 9:30Speaker 1: to reduce our emissions over time.
- 9:32Speaker 9: We need to make sure that as we decarbonize and
- 9:34Speaker 9: as the as the economy transitions, that we have to
- 9:38Speaker 9: do it in a sensible way.
- 9:40Speaker 3: And the weight may nearly be over for the Coalition's
- 9:42Speaker 3: nuclear plan, the Financial Review reports. Shadow Cabinet will meet
- 9:46Speaker 3: tonight to lock in the proposal. Trudy Macintosh Sky News Canberra.
- 9:53Speaker 2: Another huge day in federal politics, with the leaders on
- 9:56Speaker 2: either side of the country, the Prime Minister, of course,
- 9:58Speaker 2: in wa with the Chinese Premier, and Peter Dutton on
- 10:01Speaker 2: the south coast of New South Wales. SCHO Political reporter
- 10:05Speaker 2: editor Andrew Clanel has been all over this, he joins us.
- 10:09Speaker 2: Now let's start with the Chinese visit. I mean, obviously
- 10:12Speaker 2: things went downhill yesterday. You had those big demos out
- 10:15Speaker 2: the front of Parliament House and then that disgraceful behavior
- 10:18Speaker 2: toward cheng Lai. Has the Prime Minister managed to navigate
- 10:24Speaker 2: through this for the general public to think that this
- 10:27Speaker 2: visit's been worthwhile.
- 10:28Speaker 6: You think, No, I don't think so.
- 10:30Speaker 5: Unfortunately for him, that cheng Lei thing admirred the whole
- 10:34Speaker 5: visit really didn't it the behavior of the Chinese officials.
- 10:37Speaker 5: So this he thought would be a win, particularly good
- 10:41Speaker 5: with the Chinese Australian community who are key in a
- 10:45Speaker 5: number of marginal seats, whether it be Bentelong or Aston
- 10:48Speaker 5: or Red or Tangny And instead it looks like what
- 10:53Speaker 5: Don Farrell, the Trade Minister tonight on Sunday agenda. They
- 10:56Speaker 5: were doing that we're cow telling to the Chinese. So
- 10:59Speaker 5: he went from up today the PM. He kind of said, look,
- 11:02Speaker 5: it wasn't acceptable that behavior towards cheng Lai. But once
- 11:06Speaker 5: that occurred on our shores in our parliament, it kind
- 11:11Speaker 5: of summed up the problems with the relationship and that
- 11:14Speaker 5: they haven't gone away.
- 11:15Speaker 6: It's an extraordinary moment.
- 11:17Speaker 5: I think this is one of the most difficult issues
- 11:20Speaker 5: to navigate and the debate is always going to be
- 11:24Speaker 5: are we giving away too much to them to keep
- 11:28Speaker 5: up this relationship with them? And that debate will go
- 11:32Speaker 5: on on. The Australian government clearly needs to keep condemning
- 11:36Speaker 5: wrong behavior. It just needs to do that, and once
- 11:40Speaker 5: Premier Lee's gone, I think it'd be prudent of the
- 11:44Speaker 5: PM to do that.
- 11:47Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got a manage it a hell of a
- 11:50Speaker 2: lot better. Just on the wider federal discussion about climate,
- 11:54Speaker 2: we're in the middle of another climate war, you would
- 11:57Speaker 2: imagine in the lead up to the election. I opened
- 11:59Speaker 2: the program today talking story about broke down here today
- 12:03Speaker 2: where the CFA is saying, well, we're not going to
- 12:05Speaker 2: fight fires if they break out where you're putting these
- 12:08Speaker 2: wind turbines and solar panels, because it's too dangerous for
- 12:12Speaker 2: us to do so. They are local farmers where these
- 12:15Speaker 2: things are being plowed through the middle of their farms.
- 12:17Speaker 2: And then you've got this wind turbine project. I don't
- 12:20Speaker 2: know about you, Andrew, but I love the South Coast
- 12:22Speaker 2: and New South Wales. The size of that thing that
- 12:25Speaker 2: they're talking about off the Illawara just absolutely beggars belief.
- 12:29Speaker 2: And I know David little Proud, the National Leader, was
- 12:32Speaker 2: out today. Let's have a look at what he had
- 12:34Speaker 2: to say about that.
- 12:35Speaker 8: I just say to those viewers that are from Tilsey's
- 12:38Speaker 8: just take a little visit out west and understand the
- 12:41Speaker 8: burden you're asking us to bear for you to put
- 12:44Speaker 8: your head on a pillow at night and think that
- 12:46Speaker 8: you've saved the world. You've actually destroyed much of the
- 12:49Speaker 8: environment where I live, and you're asking us to have
- 12:51Speaker 8: our livelihoods taken away.
- 12:53Speaker 2: Well, he's talking about his electorate in his area, but
- 12:55Speaker 2: this thing off the coast and they're whacking it in
- 12:57Speaker 2: the middle of a whale migration channel. I mean, I'm
- 13:02Speaker 2: no greenie, but it seems to me to be too big,
- 13:05Speaker 2: too quick, and it's just going to cause how's Labor
- 13:09Speaker 2: ever going to win a seat there when you're then
- 13:11Speaker 2: going to have, you know, people who don't like renewable energy.
- 13:14Speaker 2: You can have all the surfers in the community, all
- 13:16Speaker 2: of the greenies. It's just going to create a headache
- 13:19Speaker 2: and a nightmare for Labor, isn't it.
- 13:21Speaker 5: Well I look at that and I sort of think
- 13:23Speaker 5: they've lost Kilmore already. You know, it's one of the
- 13:26Speaker 5: most marginal sets in Australia. Andrew constas nearly one at
- 13:29Speaker 5: last time. Peter Dutton's out there making hey today, is
- 13:33Speaker 5: this another Chris Bowen schocker from an electoral point of view.
- 13:36Speaker 5: Last election, he was saying if you don't like it,
- 13:38Speaker 5: don't vote for Sorry. The election before that they lost
- 13:41Speaker 5: to wenty nineteen and now he's approved this thing right
- 13:45Speaker 5: near a marginal seat.
- 13:46Speaker 6: So it's the size of it. Look, I don't know.
- 13:49Speaker 5: I mean, I've got an open mind of these offshore things,
- 13:51Speaker 5: particularly if you can't see them, which is the claim
- 13:54Speaker 5: that you wouldn't really be able to see it, and
- 13:56Speaker 5: it's so far out.
- 13:57Speaker 6: But it's the actual side.
- 14:00Speaker 5: Which seems extraordinary, and that's a hard one to get through.
- 14:04Speaker 6: And I'll tell you what else it does, Steve.
- 14:06Speaker 5: It kind of makes the nuclear policy more palatable on
- 14:10Speaker 5: Peter Dutton's side, if he's able to say, well, they
- 14:14Speaker 5: just kind of cover the entire landscape, land and sea
- 14:17Speaker 5: with wind farms absolutely everywhere.
- 14:19Speaker 6: This is an alternative.
- 14:21Speaker 5: It makes something that people might be a bit more
- 14:24Speaker 5: nervous about palatable. Now I can tell you that it's
- 14:27Speaker 5: my information that Peter Dutton will be releasing his nuclear
- 14:31Speaker 5: policy in the next two weeks, two to three weeks
- 14:34Speaker 5: before the midwinter break, and that will be a significant moment.
- 14:38Speaker 5: And then the climate wars are on for young and old,
- 14:41Speaker 5: and I think this has the potential to be an
- 14:46Speaker 5: election where energy is more dominant energy and climate is
- 14:51Speaker 5: more dominant issue than it's been in an Australian election before.
- 14:55Speaker 5: And that's quite a statement when you think about, you know,
- 14:57Speaker 5: the two thousand and seven Kyoto Protocol whether we sign
- 15:00Speaker 5: it or not, election and subsequent elections, including the vote
- 15:04Speaker 5: for the so called Teal candidates, based a lot on
- 15:07Speaker 5: climate and also women's policy. But I think this is
- 15:10Speaker 5: the biggest, this is the biggest climate energy battle yet.
- 15:15Speaker 6: That we're going to see at this election.
- 15:17Speaker 2: Steve, and we all remember, don't we, back when Tony
- 15:23Speaker 2: Abbott beat Kevin Rudd Mark two about things like bungled
- 15:28Speaker 2: pink bats and school halls and all that. This though,
- 15:31Speaker 2: is that on Steroidsandrew Well, I guess.
- 15:35Speaker 5: It's the private sector that does it on this occasion, though,
- 15:38Speaker 5: isn't it. But it's still Peter Dutton is using that language.
- 15:43Speaker 5: He's bringing up those examples. He's saying you can't trust
- 15:47Speaker 5: labor to engineer the polls and wires going out, the
- 15:52Speaker 5: projects going up. Well, I guess labor could say, well,
- 15:55Speaker 5: how can we trust you to build.
- 15:56Speaker 6: A nuclear powered plant?
- 15:57Speaker 5: You know, because Peter Dutton viewed on Sunday Agenda they're
- 16:01Speaker 5: going to have to be government owned or government subsidized,
- 16:03Speaker 5: it seems to me. So they both got arguments against
- 16:07Speaker 5: each other. That's what makes it so fascinating. I actually
- 16:11Speaker 5: think that a lot of Australians wouldn't be one hundred
- 16:15Speaker 5: percent comfortable with the policies on either side. Frankly, maybe
- 16:20Speaker 5: if you've got a policy in the middle of both sides,
- 16:22Speaker 5: somewhere in somewhere in between both sides, you'd be at
- 16:26Speaker 5: a place where people are more comfortable. For example, Peter
- 16:29Speaker 5: doesn't talk about six or seven nuclear power sites. The
- 16:32Speaker 5: key question is does he mean one or two reactors
- 16:36Speaker 5: or does he mean six or seven reactors? And to
- 16:39Speaker 5: leap to six or seven reactors is a big leap
- 16:41Speaker 5: for the Australian public. Equally, to build all these wind
- 16:45Speaker 5: farms everywhere, and I've just read tenure Plebaseka proved another
- 16:49Speaker 5: one in Queensland, and to have the renewables roll out
- 16:52Speaker 5: that Anthony Albanesi is talking about is also a big
- 16:56Speaker 5: ask for Australians to get their heads around. Gee, this
- 17:02Speaker 5: is where really you can imagine this playing every single
- 17:06Speaker 5: day of an election campaign and both sides working very
- 17:10Speaker 5: hard to pick massive holes in every one of the
- 17:14Speaker 5: proposed projects. I think it makes for a really fascinating
- 17:18Speaker 5: election campaign.
- 17:20Speaker 6: And a clear choice. And you do find in clear
- 17:24Speaker 6: choices in these elections.
- 17:25Speaker 5: They align their policies pretty close with a couple of
- 17:28Speaker 5: small differences.
- 17:29Speaker 6: This is a massive choice.
- 17:32Speaker 2: Just finally, and I'm going to talk to Ross Greenwood shortly.
- 17:35Speaker 2: Reserve Bank governor interestingly said the board didn't talk about
- 17:40Speaker 2: a rate cut, but did talk about a rate rise.
- 17:44Speaker 2: What's that due to the election timing?
- 17:47Speaker 5: Well, I mean originally after the budget when the government
- 17:53Speaker 5: had a bit of a bounce and they were handing
- 17:55Speaker 5: out this money and the budget, I thought they'd go
- 17:58Speaker 5: this year because they're inflation prediction says it will come
- 18:01Speaker 5: down this year and that's not apparent at the moment.
- 18:04Speaker 5: So to avoid that situation, you'd go in November December
- 18:09Speaker 5: this year, as the pole rankings of the government get worse,
- 18:13Speaker 5: and as it appears clear to me that the Reserve
- 18:16Speaker 5: Bank at the very least will hold rates where they
- 18:19Speaker 5: are for a year and may even hike in August
- 18:23Speaker 5: or September October. I think they'll go later the government
- 18:28Speaker 5: because they'll hope if we have to cop a hike
- 18:31Speaker 5: or if we have to cop the Reserve Bank sticking
- 18:34Speaker 5: with the current interest rate, We've got to wait until
- 18:37Speaker 5: May and hope something changes. So that's where I think
- 18:41Speaker 5: it is at. But those comments are significant, they are
- 18:45Speaker 5: very significant. They mean the only way is up or
- 18:49Speaker 5: just staying at this rate for a very long time
- 18:52Speaker 5: and very few Australians we'll be happy with that.
- 18:56Speaker 2: New Steve, great Analysisandra Clenell, Thank you as usual, make
- 19:00Speaker 2: good on you.
- 19:01Speaker 6: Thanks Steve.
- 19:04Speaker 2: Well after the break, talking about mortgage holders and the RBA,
- 19:08Speaker 2: we'll catch up with Ross Greenod The rates are on hold.
- 19:10Speaker 2: Plenty of economists though still predicting a rise before the
- 19:13Speaker 2: end of the year. Ross Greenwood joins us shortly. Plus
- 19:16Speaker 2: the federal government's early Learning framework it's turning toddlers into activists.
- 19:21Speaker 2: We'll have more on that shortly. Welcome back Steve Price
- 19:29Speaker 2: in for Peter Credlin. Now let's turn our attention to
- 19:31Speaker 2: the Reserve Board. Today the bank said that they were
- 19:33Speaker 2: going to keep interest rates on hold at four point
- 19:36Speaker 2: three five percent. That's for a six straight month. Joined
- 19:39Speaker 2: now by Sky News Business editor Ross Greenod. Ross, thanks
- 19:43Speaker 2: for your time. I raised this with Andrew Clenell earlier
- 19:47Speaker 2: where you have Michelle Bullock today and we learned so
- 19:50Speaker 2: much more about this these days. She revealed that the
- 19:53Speaker 2: interest rate cut was not even discussed by the Reserve,
- 19:57Speaker 2: but a rise was. Here's what she said in that
- 20:00Speaker 2: idiot conference for us.
- 20:02Speaker 7: No, the case for a cut was not considered. I
- 20:07Speaker 7: think I should say, because I haven't said it yet today.
- 20:10Speaker 7: We're not ruling anything in or anything out.
- 20:12Speaker 2: At the moment, so not ruling loss, do we or out?
- 20:17Speaker 2: We need to know that. No, No, we do know that.
- 20:20Speaker 10: I think she was tongue in cheek at that point
- 20:22Speaker 10: because she said it so many times. But what is
- 20:25Speaker 10: instructive about that is the for everything that we've heard
- 20:30Speaker 10: about three interest rate cuts this year, and remember even
- 20:33Speaker 10: with the government, the plan originally was to have two
- 20:36Speaker 10: interest rate cuts at least this year, then call an election.
- 20:39Speaker 10: They would have had cost of living relief coming as
- 20:41Speaker 10: a result of the budget from July one, plus tax
- 20:44Speaker 10: cuts coming. A whole lot of stuff was building up
- 20:46Speaker 10: to give consumers more money in their pockets, more relief
- 20:50Speaker 10: as it were. That was the finalizing on the cake,
- 20:53Speaker 10: the cherry on top for the government to then call
- 20:56Speaker 10: an election. Well, it ain't going to happen because the
- 20:59Speaker 10: fact of the matter is the Reserve Bank at no
- 21:01Speaker 10: point has considered cutting interest rates. At no meeting have
- 21:06Speaker 10: they ever considered cutting interest rates. It has only been
- 21:09Speaker 10: either keep them on hold.
- 21:10Speaker 6: Or raise interest rates.
- 21:12Speaker 10: And what happens right now is unlike the government actually
- 21:15Speaker 10: getting a chance to maybe consider going into an election
- 21:18Speaker 10: with interest rate cuts. We're the government that gave you
- 21:20Speaker 10: interest rate cuts. It now may be the government that
- 21:23Speaker 10: gives you interest rate rises.
- 21:25Speaker 2: And the reason for that is.
- 21:26Speaker 10: Because it appears as though, as we keep on talking
- 21:29Speaker 10: about inflation is higher than what was anticipated and not
- 21:32Speaker 10: disappearing that the number of jobs being created in this
- 21:36Speaker 10: country is much stronger than anticipated.
- 21:38Speaker 6: And so from that point of view, you know, you heard.
- 21:41Speaker 10: Michelle b Look today talking about this narrow path that
- 21:43Speaker 10: we're on that's getting narrower and narrower, and what that
- 21:47Speaker 10: basically means is they're running out of room to really
- 21:51Speaker 10: keep these rates on hold because the economy is outperforming
- 21:54Speaker 10: what's expected. And really that leads to August potentially seeing
- 21:59Speaker 10: a right and interest rates, especially if the next inflation
- 22:03Speaker 10: number we see out next month is going to be increased.
- 22:08Speaker 2: Yeah, the EPM will be real happy about that. As
- 22:10Speaker 2: you know, Ross, when you plow into these minutes from
- 22:13Speaker 2: these board meetings, you dig out some nuggets. The Australian
- 22:17Speaker 2: Late Today's reporting that the Reserve Bank Board has actually
- 22:21Speaker 2: been critical of big spending budgets, both federal and state
- 22:25Speaker 2: that have been released recently. And I guess they refer
- 22:28Speaker 2: to obviously Charmer's federal budget and the particularly the Queensland
- 22:32Speaker 2: state budget and will lead up to an election there
- 22:34Speaker 2: with free public transport discounts on everything from your power
- 22:40Speaker 2: bills to whatever. So the Board is saying, well, some
- 22:44Speaker 2: of this inflation at least is due to government overspending
- 22:49Speaker 2: well well effectively.
- 22:50Speaker 10: And what you're seeing now and I've got my hot
- 22:52Speaker 10: little hand here Moody's ratings. It does the ratings for
- 22:56Speaker 10: Australia and also for the states. After the New South
- 23:00Speaker 10: Wales budget, the Day is really saying right now that
- 23:03Speaker 10: the balance of risks in New South Wales' interest and
- 23:07Speaker 10: financial strength is right now negative and that's because of
- 23:10Speaker 10: that big spinning where within four years effectively there's going
- 23:14Speaker 10: to be another fifty sixty billion dollars worth of debt
- 23:16Speaker 10: piled on top of what they've got to two hundred
- 23:19Speaker 10: and forty billion dollars. And remember that New South Wales
- 23:21Speaker 10: is in a far better position than what Victoria is in,
- 23:25Speaker 10: where effectively they're having to suspend infrastructure projects simply because
- 23:29Speaker 10: a they don't have the financial capacity to build them,
- 23:32Speaker 10: and b there is also the mounting problem of basically
- 23:36Speaker 10: these projects coming in way way over budget trying to
- 23:39Speaker 10: get the workers for them. So in many ways you
- 23:41Speaker 10: can see that Australia is almost grinding to a halt
- 23:44Speaker 10: right now. And notwithstanding the fact that the economy is
- 23:47Speaker 10: barely teetering above a recession right now, with the last
- 23:50Speaker 10: quart of just zero point one of a percent in
- 23:52Speaker 10: this court of probably negative, the reality is that you'd expect,
- 23:56Speaker 10: in a normal circumstances, the Reserve Bank would come to
- 23:59Speaker 10: the rescue, start to cut interest rates and get some
- 24:01Speaker 10: economic growth going. Well, it can't do that right now,
- 24:04Speaker 10: and mainly because of this strange experiment that Australia's got
- 24:08Speaker 10: to try and keep as many people in a job
- 24:10Speaker 10: as they possibly can and so therefore allowing inflation to
- 24:14Speaker 10: remain above the target and also try to keep interest
- 24:17Speaker 10: rates higher for longer. That's an experiment. It hasn't worked
- 24:21Speaker 10: anywhere else in the Western world before. Australia's on this experiment,
- 24:25Speaker 10: and so at a time when Canada, Europe, maybe the
- 24:28Speaker 10: UK and the near future cut interest rates, here in
- 24:31Speaker 10: Australia we've got the prospect of rates rising and not falling.
- 24:38Speaker 2: You've got great historical perspective on these things. We're seeing
- 24:41Speaker 2: increasingly day by day, week by week, business is falling over.
- 24:45Speaker 2: I think a couple of largish businesses today fell over.
- 24:49Speaker 2: That means people out of work, That means that the
- 24:52Speaker 2: economies is not growing. Are you worried about the future
- 24:58Speaker 2: of business has being able to keep their doors open
- 25:00Speaker 2: if the interest rates stay where they are they are.
- 25:03Speaker 10: I'm worried about the bold experiment just not having worked,
- 25:06Speaker 10: and that when you saw, say, our neighbors in New
- 25:08Speaker 10: Zealand raise interest rates much more aggressively than Australia, put
- 25:12Speaker 10: themselves into a recession, have unemployment higher than what it
- 25:17Speaker 10: is here in Australia, but get to the end of
- 25:19Speaker 10: the process much more quickly.
- 25:21Speaker 2: Here.
- 25:21Speaker 10: It's almost death by a thousand cuts in some ways
- 25:25Speaker 10: try to maintain full employment, which is honorable and it's
- 25:27Speaker 10: a good thing, but the fact of the matter is
- 25:29Speaker 10: that there is no productivity growth in Australia. If all
- 25:33Speaker 10: of the workers out there were highly productive and we
- 25:35Speaker 10: had an economy that was actually pumping and booming along
- 25:39Speaker 10: right now, you probably have inflation low on what it is,
- 25:41Speaker 10: you wouldn't have me talking about this argument.
- 25:44Speaker 6: But the fact of the matter is.
- 25:45Speaker 10: That Australia's economy is not productive. We don't have a
- 25:48Speaker 10: flexible labor force because of guess what, many of the
- 25:51Speaker 10: laws that have been bought in by the labor government
- 25:54Speaker 10: which makes bargaining sort of on an industry wide basis,
- 25:57Speaker 10: which means that people can't easily get a job in
- 26:01Speaker 10: the gig economy or part time work or casual work
- 26:04Speaker 10: without potentially having to become full timers in the future.
- 26:07Speaker 10: So this is where Australia is almost creating rules that
- 26:11Speaker 10: actually work against the economy rather than working for the
- 26:15Speaker 10: economy to make it flexible to get through these tight times.
- 26:20Speaker 2: You got to say, Roscoe, just finally, that would mean
- 26:23Speaker 2: probably an election later rather than sooner. We were starting
- 26:26Speaker 2: to talk about the end of this year. But the
- 26:28Speaker 2: Reserve Bank, probably today Michelle Bullock probably put a kaibosh
- 26:32Speaker 2: on that.
- 26:33Speaker 10: You'd have to think so now, Anthony Albanezi would be
- 26:36Speaker 10: wanting to stay in power as long as he possibly
- 26:39Speaker 10: can to try and see out this term because the
- 26:43Speaker 10: prospect of having an economic situation by the end of
- 26:46Speaker 10: this year that is really conducive for the Labor Party
- 26:50Speaker 10: to win favor, especially at a time when it seems
- 26:53Speaker 10: to be losing a bit of skin in the poles,
- 26:55Speaker 10: becomes more difficult.
- 26:56Speaker 6: And do bear in mind that by the.
- 26:58Speaker 10: End of this year, if you're get to rate RYE
- 27:00Speaker 10: in August, I mean, there will be many parts of
- 27:02Speaker 10: our economy that will erupt. The small business sector, there's
- 27:05Speaker 10: no doubt we'll find it even tougher. You'll certainly find
- 27:08Speaker 10: that many households will also find it tougher. And if
- 27:11Speaker 10: jobs start to be lost, that's generally a very dangerous
- 27:14Speaker 10: time historically for governments. And so really, as I say,
- 27:19Speaker 10: when you see what corporate reputations can do so quickly,
- 27:22Speaker 10: it can also happen to political reputations. And that's why
- 27:25Speaker 10: right now, the stewardship and the messaging and even to
- 27:28Speaker 10: a certain extent, the cohesiveness of the Labor government is
- 27:32Speaker 10: absolutely vital to its future survival because on the other
- 27:36Speaker 10: side of it.
- 27:36Speaker 2: You've of course got.
- 27:38Speaker 10: Peter Dutton talking about energy and energy policy and talking
- 27:41Speaker 10: about trying to bring down prices at a time when really,
- 27:45Speaker 10: right now many people continue to feel the cost of
- 27:47Speaker 10: living crisis.
- 27:49Speaker 2: Ross Greenwood, Thanks very much. Yeah, just some breaking news
- 27:55Speaker 2: the Australian reporting some details around the CFMU and John Seca,
- 28:00Speaker 2: I'll have some details for you on that shortly now.
- 28:03Speaker 2: Change in tact. There's no denying that social justice and
- 28:06Speaker 2: gender ideology has infiltrated our schools. We've been looking and
- 28:10Speaker 2: talking about that for some time, but the Institute of
- 28:13Speaker 2: Public Affairs now warns us that it's creeping into early
- 28:17Speaker 2: childhood learning centers, which of course are kindergartens. The IPA's
- 28:22Speaker 2: analysis of the Federal government's Early Years Learning Framework found
- 28:27Speaker 2: that diversity, inclusion and equity mentioned one hundred and forty times,
- 28:32Speaker 2: one hundred and forty nine times actually Aboriginal and Torres
- 28:34Speaker 2: Strait Islanders and reconciliation was mentioned in that report ninety
- 28:39Speaker 2: six times, while mother, father and parent were not mentioned
- 28:43Speaker 2: at all. In addition, the framework encourages centers to perform
- 28:47Speaker 2: a daily acknowledgment of country and display both the Aboriginal
- 28:51Speaker 2: and Torres Strait Islander flags on their premises. For more
- 28:54Speaker 2: on this, we're joined by the Director of Foundations of
- 28:58Speaker 2: Western Civilization program at the IPI, Billbrera Bella. What happened
- 29:03Speaker 2: to just going in coloring and plying with toys during
- 29:07Speaker 2: kindergart What are we doing to our children?
- 29:12Speaker 11: Oh, good evening, Steve. You're absolutely right. Early early learning
- 29:15Speaker 11: has now been infiltrated, unfortunately along the same lines that
- 29:18Speaker 11: our primary schools and secondary schools have been infiltrated. What
- 29:22Speaker 11: we uncovered in our research is that, you know, parents
- 29:25Speaker 11: should be very worried about what is going on in
- 29:28Speaker 11: early learning centers. So you have a document that is
- 29:31Speaker 11: essentially an education syllabus for under fives, and within that
- 29:36Speaker 11: document you have diversity, equity and inclusion mentioned one hundred
- 29:39Speaker 11: and forty times, and you have Indigenous issues mentioned over
- 29:42Speaker 11: ninety times. But as you mentioned, mother and father doesn't
- 29:45Speaker 11: feature at all, and parents don't feature at all. You know,
- 29:48Speaker 11: there's basically no place for indoctrination in early learning centers.
- 29:52Speaker 11: But unfortunately, this is what is going on across Australia, so.
- 29:57Speaker 2: Bella, we're talking children age what three to five years old?
- 30:03Speaker 11: It's worse. It's worse than that studive. It's zero to five.
- 30:06Speaker 11: So the document has been designed for and is called
- 30:10Speaker 11: an early learning framework for zero to five year olds.
- 30:12Speaker 11: So it's as soon as that child is conscious and
- 30:15Speaker 11: able to sort of take in take in pictures, and
- 30:18Speaker 11: take in what's going on around it, and so you know,
- 30:21Speaker 11: there's there's They've divided the program into years, so when
- 30:26Speaker 11: the two year olds come in, they're expected to dance
- 30:29Speaker 11: and sing, you know, along sort of aboriginal songs. And
- 30:32Speaker 11: then when they're three they should be starting to talk
- 30:34Speaker 11: about dream time and when they get to six, when
- 30:37Speaker 11: they get to five and six, they basically have to
- 30:40Speaker 11: start talking about reconciliation and understanding that they are active
- 30:44Speaker 11: citizens in a journey of reconciliations. This is exactly what
- 30:47Speaker 11: the document tells early learning centers should be the purpose
- 30:51Speaker 11: of earlier early education.
- 30:55Speaker 2: And you just wonder bella where the parents actually know
- 30:57Speaker 2: what's going on inside some of these kindergartens. That document
- 31:00Speaker 2: says that in the early years, Quoitte, it's an exciting
- 31:04Speaker 2: opportunity to explore issues around gender, sexuality, race and culture.
- 31:10Speaker 2: What the hell are two three four year olds wanting
- 31:14Speaker 2: to find out about gender, sexuality, and race and culture.
- 31:22Speaker 11: Well, I mean that's a very persinent question and it's
- 31:24Speaker 11: a question that all parents should be asking. As I
- 31:26Speaker 11: said earlier, the kindergartens is absolutely no place to be
- 31:31Speaker 11: talking to children about social justice and radical gender theory.
- 31:34Speaker 11: It's completely wrong, and parents need to start really looking
- 31:39Speaker 11: into what is going on in the childcare centers that
- 31:42Speaker 11: they're sending their children to. You know, they trust, they
- 31:45Speaker 11: trust that they're probably just playing in a sand pitce
- 31:47Speaker 11: or you know, drawing with crayons, whereas actually it's activism
- 31:51Speaker 11: being pushed on their children. And what we've found is
- 31:54Speaker 11: that this is just a pipeline of indoctrination. You know,
- 31:56Speaker 11: it starts, it starts in early childhood, it goes through
- 31:59Speaker 11: primary school, it gets straight into secondary school. And I've
- 32:02Speaker 11: talked a lot on Sky about the National Curriculum and
- 32:05Speaker 11: how work it is, which is actually why I'm working
- 32:07Speaker 11: on a very important project now so de clutter the
- 32:10Speaker 11: National Curriculum and take up all the work elements. But
- 32:13Speaker 11: unfortunately starting very young, it's starting when they're still in nappies.
- 32:20Speaker 2: Outstanding work by you Bella Devera from the Institute of
- 32:23Speaker 2: Public Affairs, thank you very much for a larning as
- 32:25Speaker 2: to that, and I alert parents to ask the questions
- 32:27Speaker 2: of their children now after the break, anger mounts on
- 32:30Speaker 2: the New South Wales south coast locals left out of
- 32:33Speaker 2: the loop as Chris Bowen pursues his green agenda. Plus
- 32:37Speaker 2: when reality is mug by ideology with the Victorian government
- 32:41Speaker 2: illadvisedly raising the age of criminal responsibility, admit a crime crisis.
- 32:52Speaker 2: Welcome back sleep price in for Peter Kredla now on
- 32:55Speaker 2: the south coast of New South Wales. I mentioned this
- 32:57Speaker 2: at the start of the program. In the Illawarra, another
- 33:00Speaker 2: dividing line has emerged between the Albanezy government and the Coalition.
- 33:04Speaker 2: Peter Dutton was there today the Opposition vowing to scrap
- 33:08Speaker 2: a controversial offshore wind farm that was given the green
- 33:11Speaker 2: light by Chris Bowen. That happened across the weekend. The
- 33:14Speaker 2: maps of it are unbelievable. Concerns vary from the impact
- 33:18Speaker 2: the wind farm will have on the local fishing industry,
- 33:21Speaker 2: marine life whale. The whales use that highway super Highway
- 33:25Speaker 2: to go north and many of it view it as
- 33:27Speaker 2: a sham consultation process. Joining me now one of the
- 33:30Speaker 2: locals pushing back. Alex O'Brien from the Illawar chapter of
- 33:34Speaker 2: the Responsible Future Group, Alex, thanks for giving us some time.
- 33:38Speaker 2: How big is this thing?
- 33:40Speaker 9: Oh, it's massive, you know, it's one point three times
- 33:44Speaker 9: New York City. So you're talking about a large floating
- 33:48Speaker 9: offshore wind farm right smack bang in the middle of
- 33:52Speaker 9: a whale migration area.
- 33:54Speaker 4: And it's going to cause a lot of hurt to
- 33:58Speaker 4: the community.
- 33:58Speaker 9: But a lot of our low industries, you know, like
- 34:01Speaker 9: our commercial fishermen and our tourism industry.
- 34:06Speaker 2: What's the consultation being, like, Alex.
- 34:09Speaker 4: What consultation, Steve?
- 34:11Speaker 9: The reality is that, you know, well, according to Minisobaan,
- 34:17Speaker 9: there's been some consultation with select groups. But if you
- 34:20Speaker 9: look back in August when he proposed his own regionally,
- 34:23Speaker 9: within weeks there were some rapid fire community sessions. Now,
- 34:27Speaker 9: the pamphlets that were delivered to the community, many reported
- 34:31Speaker 9: that they did not receive them.
- 34:33Speaker 4: And you know, the community really wasn't aware of the
- 34:36Speaker 4: complexity of these projects.
- 34:38Speaker 9: And look, even the panel there that was present were
- 34:42Speaker 9: ill equipped to properly.
- 34:43Speaker 4: Understand the questions and the concerns.
- 34:45Speaker 9: That were raised by the community. Now, since those sessions,
- 34:49Speaker 9: you know, months past eight months in fact, and there
- 34:52Speaker 9: was no engagement. Now, Responsible Future, the association I'm part
- 34:57Speaker 9: of which is supported by sixteen thousand and people in
- 35:00Speaker 9: the Illawara and some of those important stakeholders in the
- 35:03Speaker 9: commercial fishing space and tourism didn't.
- 35:06Speaker 4: Get one core.
- 35:07Speaker 9: And we've reached out to the minister and it's no
- 35:10Speaker 9: different to our lobster fisherman Mark Horn, who is invited
- 35:15Speaker 9: Minister bon On several times now to come down on
- 35:18Speaker 9: his boat and actually go around and see the wildlife
- 35:21Speaker 9: that's out there in this proposed.
- 35:26Speaker 2: Alix. I love that part of the world. I think
- 35:28Speaker 2: the south coast of New South Wales is God's country.
- 35:31Speaker 2: What's the northern edge of this thing and the southern edge?
- 35:35Speaker 2: To give our audience that perhaps are not as familiar
- 35:38Speaker 2: with it as you and I are, what's the top
- 35:40Speaker 2: and the bottom.
- 35:41Speaker 4: Well, it's going all.
- 35:42Speaker 9: The way from Wombara all the way down to Cayama.
- 35:45Speaker 9: So it's literally going to litter our coastline with three
- 35:49Speaker 9: hundred turbines that are the size of ceter Point Tower.
- 35:53Speaker 9: Now the reality is at the moment in Europe they're
- 35:55Speaker 9: building these even larger up to four hundred meters.
- 35:58Speaker 4: But these are the proposed all the way down the coast,
- 36:01Speaker 4: you know, Ola dullah Eden have also been a proposed zones.
- 36:06Speaker 9: So there's probably going to be nowhere on the New
- 36:08Speaker 9: South Wales. It's going to be safe, maybe Sydney. But yeah,
- 36:13Speaker 9: it's a terrible thing that's happening.
- 36:16Speaker 2: Yeah, imagine what it was like if it was off
- 36:18Speaker 2: Bondo or Manly. Just finally, Bowen says, Okay, I hear
- 36:22Speaker 2: your concerns. I'll make it twenty kilometers off the coast
- 36:25Speaker 2: instead of ten. Two things I'd have to say about that, Well,
- 36:29Speaker 2: that then probably doubles the cost and so the energy
- 36:32Speaker 2: that is generated by this thing is going to go
- 36:34Speaker 2: straight onto your power bills. But does that make you
- 36:37Speaker 2: feel any more relaxed at this thing's twenty k off shore?
- 36:41Speaker 9: No, it doesn't, because we expected that it would be
- 36:44Speaker 9: twenty kilometers off you know, we saw that they originally
- 36:49Speaker 9: said ten kilometers, but then some of the wind farm
- 36:51Speaker 9: developers were talking about it being twenty and we thought
- 36:55Speaker 9: this would just be something that they would promote as
- 36:57Speaker 9: if they consult with the communitymi where they've consulted.
- 37:02Speaker 4: Community groups like our show.
- 37:04Speaker 9: Me where they've consulted those commercial fishermen, the tourism industry,
- 37:08Speaker 9: and again you've got to understand the Illauora.
- 37:11Speaker 4: You know, yes, you know, everyone.
- 37:12Speaker 9: Says their place in world's God's country, but it is
- 37:15Speaker 9: quite remarkable. And after the steel works, you know, reduce
- 37:19Speaker 9: their employment numbers from forty thousand to three thousand direct,
- 37:22Speaker 9: the Illora had to reinvent itself. You know, when you
- 37:26Speaker 9: go to the suburbs of you know, Thrull and you
- 37:29Speaker 9: know bull you know, it's not the area of high
- 37:32Speaker 9: views and hard yaka boots, it's linen and bergenstocks, you
- 37:35Speaker 9: know that are in those areas.
- 37:37Speaker 4: You know, this community has changed, you know, quite a
- 37:40Speaker 4: bit over the number of decades.
- 37:43Speaker 9: And you know that sees huge amounts of tourists come
- 37:47Speaker 9: with billions of dollars coming into.
- 37:49Speaker 4: The tourism industry every year.
- 37:51Speaker 9: So we're sacrificing that for a very expensive, if not
- 37:55Speaker 9: one of the most expensive forms of energy and one
- 38:00Speaker 9: that doesn't have many around the world.
- 38:04Speaker 2: Alex, you're doing great work. I'd love to keep in
- 38:06Speaker 2: touch with you on this. Good luck with your arguments
- 38:09Speaker 2: about that and more power to you. And I think
- 38:11Speaker 2: it's just disgraceful what they're doing to you. Thanks for
- 38:14Speaker 2: joining us. All right, let's move now to Victoria. I
- 38:16Speaker 2: was pleased to read this morning that the Victorian government
- 38:18Speaker 2: was finally going to give police some extra power. They're
- 38:21Speaker 2: going to be able to conduct random weapons searches, money
- 38:24Speaker 2: for knives so they can crack down on knife crime
- 38:28Speaker 2: and then low and behold. A few hours later, the
- 38:31Speaker 2: Attorney General revealed that they're going to introduce legislation quickly
- 38:36Speaker 2: to raise the age of criminal responsibility from ten to twelve.
- 38:39Speaker 2: And they're all in the way, all the way to fourteen,
- 38:42Speaker 2: keeping in mind in your South and Wales and Queensland
- 38:45Speaker 2: is still at ten. For more, Let's bring in Victoria's
- 38:48Speaker 2: shadow Minister for Major Infrastructure Projects, David Southold. Good to
- 38:52Speaker 2: talk to you again. What's it a government in the
- 38:54Speaker 2: middle of a what sort of government in the middle
- 38:58Speaker 2: of a teenage youth crime? Crime takes the age of
- 39:02Speaker 2: criminality up.
- 39:05Speaker 1: Well, when you see statistics just going up and up
- 39:08Speaker 1: when it comes to youth crime, the government's response is
- 39:11Speaker 1: just raise the age and then unless people will be
- 39:14Speaker 1: caught up in any crime whatsoever, you can't deal with
- 39:18Speaker 1: a crime situation here in Victoria. By just raising the age,
- 39:22Speaker 1: we know young people are getting caught up in crime.
- 39:24Speaker 1: There needs to be consequences for that violent crime, and
- 39:28Speaker 1: there just isn't. People are getting out on bail, doesn't
- 39:30Speaker 1: matter what age it is, and reoccurring these offenses. It
- 39:34Speaker 1: turnstile effect in terms about crime. They go in, they
- 39:38Speaker 1: get caught, and they're back on the streets. And we
- 39:40Speaker 1: need to ensure that we have work and programs to
- 39:43Speaker 1: ensure that these young people have a life of education,
- 39:47Speaker 1: of sport, of all kinds of activities that they need
- 39:50Speaker 1: to be doing, not holding people up with machetes on
- 39:53Speaker 1: the streets and in schools.
- 39:55Speaker 6: It's appalling, and there's.
- 39:57Speaker 1: Already the ability for judges discretion when it comes to
- 40:00Speaker 1: a young person not knowing what they've done in a crime.
- 40:03Speaker 1: But a violent crime, regardless of the age, needs consequences.
- 40:07Speaker 1: If you attack murder using a weapon, a dangerous weapon
- 40:11Speaker 1: like a machete, and you're a young person, which we've
- 40:14Speaker 1: seeing young people doing, it needs to be consequences and
- 40:17Speaker 1: there's just none of that in this state. The government's
- 40:19Speaker 1: turn their back on law and order. There's no funding
- 40:22Speaker 1: for it, not enough police on the beat, and not
- 40:24Speaker 1: enough consequences in our legal system.
- 40:28Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it. I saw the Attorney General Jacqueline
- 40:30Speaker 2: Simons today when asked about this legislation, which you won't
- 40:34Speaker 2: have yet, so you have to get your head around it.
- 40:36Speaker 2: But she was going on about how, oh, well, you know,
- 40:38Speaker 2: police will still be able to if they're confronted by
- 40:41Speaker 2: one of these youngsters, they'll still be able to put
- 40:44Speaker 2: a hand on them, ask them to step into a vehicle,
- 40:47Speaker 2: come with them to police station. I mean she's kidding herself.
- 40:50Speaker 2: I mean, once the crime gangs realize that the kids
- 40:56Speaker 2: they can use, they can go all the way up
- 40:58Speaker 2: to eventually fourteen. Who does she think is going to
- 41:01Speaker 2: be being paid by these crime gangs to commit the crime.
- 41:05Speaker 1: You're absolutely bang on. We've seen and even locally in
- 41:07Speaker 1: my area, where these young people they're being utilized by
- 41:12Speaker 1: these crime gangs, these older people that are indoctrinating them
- 41:16Speaker 1: into a system of unfortunate a life of crime. It
- 41:20Speaker 1: starts with stealing a bag, stealing a mobile phone of
- 41:23Speaker 1: another young person, and then the violent of crimes that
- 41:26Speaker 1: we're seeing. In Glenara College, we had a young boy
- 41:29Speaker 1: that was with an interview losing his life, that was
- 41:32Speaker 1: dragged from a car and held up with a machete.
- 41:36Speaker 1: And this was done by these young thirteen fourteen year
- 41:39Speaker 1: old kids.
- 41:40Speaker 2: This is appalling.
- 41:41Speaker 1: We've got to have consequences for these young people and
- 41:45Speaker 1: we've got to have a better system and it's just
- 41:48Speaker 1: not happening in Victoria and the government just thinks by
- 41:50Speaker 1: raising the age we can ignore it. You can't ignore it.
- 41:53Speaker 1: If people do the crime, they've got to commit some
- 41:56Speaker 1: kind of consequences and ultimately be response with their actions.
- 42:03Speaker 2: Some breaking news on the CFMEU which I'll bring the
- 42:05Speaker 2: audience in a moment, but I just want to ask
- 42:07Speaker 2: you about that deal done last week for a twenty
- 42:11Speaker 2: one percent increase in over four years for the CFMU.
- 42:16Speaker 2: What's that going to do to the costs of these
- 42:18Speaker 2: major infrastructure projects in Victoria that are already overtime and
- 42:23Speaker 2: over budget.
- 42:23Speaker 1: David, Victoria is being run and our major projects are
- 42:28Speaker 1: being run by one person, and that's John Setker and
- 42:30Speaker 1: the CFMAU. We already have over a forty billion dollars
- 42:35Speaker 1: budget blowout in our major project, major projects, and that's
- 42:38Speaker 1: largely labor higher. You even have indigenous labor higher firms
- 42:43Speaker 1: that can't get onto work sites because they're locked out
- 42:45Speaker 1: by the CFMAU. They literally run the show.
- 42:49Speaker 6: And what we saw even.
- 42:50Speaker 1: Today in Parliament is Labor running a protection racket for
- 42:53Speaker 1: the CFMAU and there's little wonder with this. The CFMU
- 42:57Speaker 1: at the last election donated a million dollars to the
- 43:04Speaker 1: Labor Party, so that's massive money of which the government
- 43:09Speaker 1: is getting from the CFMU themselves and literally they're being
- 43:13Speaker 1: silenced by their CFMU mates. And Victorian's are all paying
- 43:16Speaker 1: the price for this because every time these budgets blow out,
- 43:20Speaker 1: whether it's a suburban rail loop that you know twenty
- 43:24Speaker 1: percent on top of that in terms of labor high
- 43:26Speaker 1: will mean each one the suburban rail loop, Northeast Link,
- 43:29Speaker 1: every one of these projects blow out and we don't
- 43:32Speaker 1: get I know this is a big topic of yours.
- 43:33Speaker 1: We don't get to do things like the airport rail
- 43:36Speaker 1: that misses out because Victoria is broke. Victoria doesn't have
- 43:40Speaker 1: the money because they can't manage not only these major projects,
- 43:44Speaker 1: but they can't manage the labor higher because the CFM
- 43:47Speaker 1: you're in charge, John Setgar is in charge of the
- 43:50Speaker 1: major projects and the big building Victoria.
- 43:54Speaker 2: Absolutely, Miss David, thanks for giving us some time tonight.
- 43:57Speaker 2: That's David soudaup there coming up after the break O
- 44:00Speaker 2: Minister Benjamin Nett and Yahoo. He's dismantled his war cabinet.
- 44:04Speaker 2: We'll find out what impact that's going to have. Blas says.
- 44:06Speaker 2: Both Joe Biden and Donald Trump prepare for that first
- 44:09Speaker 2: presidential debate. Questions still remain over whether Joe will even
- 44:14Speaker 2: be in a state to show up. We'll have more
- 44:16Speaker 2: on that in the moment. Steve Price in for Peter
- 44:23Speaker 2: welcome back. Just on that CFM he used story The
- 44:25Speaker 2: Australian reporting that the federal government might introduce some legislation
- 44:29Speaker 2: to try and break that union up after the John
- 44:32Speaker 2: Setka threats to the AFL last week. They are suggesting
- 44:36Speaker 2: they may let the manufacturing part of that union go
- 44:39Speaker 2: its own way. That story will developed during the night.
- 44:41Speaker 2: Danika de Giorgio filling in for Andrew Bolt. Shortly. Now,
- 44:45Speaker 2: let's have a look at what's happening around the world
- 44:46Speaker 2: with our international panel tonight, Scott News contributor Koshergada and
- 44:51Speaker 2: former Liberal MP Michael Danby. Welcome to you both. Let's
- 44:54Speaker 2: start with Israel. Prime Minister netanyaho I mentioned this dismantles
- 44:58Speaker 2: his war cabinet was set up to bring a unified
- 45:01Speaker 2: approach to the war against Hamas. Michael not a good look.
- 45:06Speaker 2: Probably disagreements within a war cabinet, What do you make
- 45:08Speaker 2: of it?
- 45:10Speaker 12: Definitely a labor member, by the way, But I think
- 45:16Speaker 12: Guns has left the government. He is not going to
- 45:20Speaker 12: get an election, unfortunately, because Bibby still has sixty four
- 45:27Speaker 12: of the one.
- 45:27Speaker 4: Hundred and twenty members of their parliament.
- 45:29Speaker 12: Now, the army says that in the next two weeks
- 45:32Speaker 12: the last two organized battalions of Hamas will be ground up.
- 45:37Speaker 12: But and then they could theoretically switch to counterinsurgency warfare
- 45:41Speaker 12: and then Israelis could go to an election. But that
- 45:44Speaker 12: can't happen unfortunately, because he runs proxy in northern Israel.
- 45:49Speaker 12: Hezbollah has got one hundred and twenty thousand Israelis displaced
- 45:54Speaker 12: from their homes and they may start another war.
- 45:56Speaker 2: So it's a.
- 45:58Speaker 12: He's got a narrow majority, but I don't think they
- 46:02Speaker 12: can be progressed on the Israeli side to a change
- 46:05Speaker 12: of government.
- 46:07Speaker 2: Kosher imagine me calling Michael a liberal. I need to
- 46:10Speaker 2: go home, wash my mouth.
- 46:11Speaker 9: There.
- 46:12Speaker 2: We've got two weeks from the first presidential debate twenty
- 46:15Speaker 2: twenty four. The Trump and Biden campaigns now they've agreed
- 46:19Speaker 2: on the rules. I find this fascinating. A ninety minute debate,
- 46:23Speaker 2: the candidate's microphones will be muted. I wonder who that's for,
- 46:27Speaker 2: and there will be no audience and no props on
- 46:30Speaker 2: the stage and in the studio. I think that's probably
- 46:34Speaker 2: designed for Joe, don't you.
- 46:38Speaker 13: I think not having the studio audience certainly mutes one
- 46:43Speaker 13: of the competitive advantages of Trump, because he tends to
- 46:46Speaker 13: feed off the energy of crowds, for sure, But he
- 46:49Speaker 13: also has a lot of other competitive advantages in general,
- 46:51Speaker 13: and certainly as it compares to Joe Biden. One is
- 46:55Speaker 13: that he is very used to and actually thrives in
- 46:58Speaker 13: adversarial situations, whether it's with a hostile media or with
- 47:02Speaker 13: other adversaries or judges and courtrooms.
- 47:04Speaker 6: And all of that.
- 47:05Speaker 13: And the second is he really does have a genuine
- 47:07Speaker 13: constituency love him or hate him. He actually has real
- 47:11Speaker 13: organic support at scale, and I think everybody would agree
- 47:14Speaker 13: that does not seem to be the case on the
- 47:15Speaker 13: other side. And so even if those people are not
- 47:17Speaker 13: in the room in a studio audience. He can channel
- 47:19Speaker 13: that he's battle tested, he's road tested, he can think
- 47:22Speaker 13: quickly on his feet, and I think he will be
- 47:24Speaker 13: just fine. He'll probably be fighting one on two because
- 47:27Speaker 13: the moderators everybody expects, as they tend to be, will
- 47:29Speaker 13: probably come in and intervene and on behalf of Joe
- 47:32Speaker 13: Biden more than they do for Trump.
- 47:35Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 47:35Speaker 2: One of the other advantages he has over Joe Kocher,
- 47:38Speaker 2: of course, is he will actually know he's in a room,
- 47:40Speaker 2: as opposed to Joe Biden, who probably hasn't got any
- 47:43Speaker 2: clue where he is. That debate, by the way, will
- 47:46Speaker 2: be on CNN, the presidential Debate. You'll be able to
- 47:48Speaker 2: see it live here on Sky News. That'll be from
- 47:51Speaker 2: eleven am on Friday, the twenty eighth. Russia, the President
- 47:55Speaker 2: Vladimir Putin mica Le's off to North Korea first time
- 47:59Speaker 2: in twenty four years, is for a friendly state visit.
- 48:02Speaker 2: I imagine it won't be all that friendly, would it be?
- 48:06Speaker 12: Look at this is big news to sieve the Australians
- 48:10Speaker 12: and other people in democracies have to focus on the
- 48:13Speaker 12: fact that the authoritarians are all working together. North Korea, Iran, China,
- 48:19Speaker 12: and Russia. So previously, even the Russians and the Chinese
- 48:25Speaker 12: stayed away from Korea because they regarded them as mad.
- 48:27Speaker 4: As cut snakes.
- 48:29Speaker 12: But the Uranians provide Russia with the drones to murder
- 48:33Speaker 12: civilians by the hundreds in Ukrainian cities, and the North
- 48:37Speaker 12: Koreans provide them the broken Russian manufacturing sector with the
- 48:41Speaker 12: basic artillery show one hundred and fifty five millimeter. So
- 48:47Speaker 12: all of these people are working very closely together, and
- 48:50Speaker 12: we all have to be very mindful of the fact
- 48:52Speaker 12: that they oppose a danger toward us. The Uranians go
- 48:56Speaker 12: for the Israelis, the Russians go for the Ukrainians, and
- 49:02Speaker 12: God forbid, before the American election, some Chinese general besides,
- 49:07Speaker 12: it's time to launch a blockade of Taiwan.
- 49:12Speaker 2: Kosher, it's going to be a very interesting presidential debate.
- 49:16Speaker 2: I can't wait for that to come up, Joe Biden
- 49:18Speaker 2: versus Trump. I think they're going to have three of
- 49:20Speaker 2: these debates. It's going to be absolutely fascinating. Thank you
- 49:23Speaker 2: very much both of you to join us tonight. That's
- 49:25Speaker 2: kosher YadA and Michael Danby coming up. The Bolt Report
- 49:29Speaker 2: Tonight is going to be hosted by Danika de Giorgio.
- 49:33Speaker 2: I'll be back for Peter Kretlin the same time tomorrow night.
- 49:35Speaker 6: Have a good evening.