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AFC Big Picture Questions, Brendan Sorsby Supplemental Draft Potential, Wyndham Clark wins U.S. Open · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on? My people? How are
0:18
Speaker 1: we doing? John middlecop three and Out podcast? Hopefully everyone
0:21
Speaker 1: is doing well. I recorded some stuff last week when
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Speaker 1: I was in Scott's. Actually yeah, if it's Monday, probably
0:28
Speaker 1: on like Tuesday or Wednesday, I did ten things about
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Speaker 1: ten big stories in the AFC, ten big stories in
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Speaker 1: the NFC. We'll play the AFC today and we'll play
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Speaker 1: the NFC on Wednesday. But I brought my stuff because
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Speaker 1: I knew stuff, you know, things would happen. And I
0:45
Speaker 1: definitely want to hit on Brendan Soresby, who was kicked
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Speaker 1: out of college or mutually broke up with text stick irrelevant.
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Speaker 1: He's going to the NFL, so where he'll go in
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Speaker 1: the supplemental draft of what I'm here? And I watched
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Speaker 1: a little bit of him and texted around, and then
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Speaker 1: we had a pretty unique moment today in golf that
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Speaker 1: an American player, Wyndham Clark, who won the US Open,
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Speaker 1: had homegrown fans in New York actively rooting against the
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Speaker 1: guy and cheering when he fucked up. So we'll hit
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Speaker 1: on that as well. And you guys know the drove.
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Speaker 1: You will never miss an episode. Let's just dive right
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Speaker 1: into the quarterback from Texas Tech. I said last week
1:34
Speaker 1: when the whole thing kind of played out and he
1:36
Speaker 1: left Texas Tech, I'm like, I think he goes in
1:39
Speaker 1: the third or fourth round. And I had watched him
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Speaker 1: and my opinion was kind of reminds me of Derek
1:47
Speaker 1: Carr at Fresno State mixed with bow Knicks when he
1:51
Speaker 1: went to Oregon. Well, think about this, Derek Carr went
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Speaker 1: like the second pick in the second round and bow
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Speaker 1: Knicks was a top fifteen pick. Let's be real. Quarterback
2:01
Speaker 1: inflation happened Postcar, So like if the equivalent of Derek
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Speaker 1: Carr had come out. I don't know the last seven
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Speaker 1: or eight years, the numbers he put up, his physical attributes.
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Speaker 1: His brother was the number one overall pick once upon
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Speaker 1: a time, which worked against him at the time. I
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Speaker 1: think Derek go's in the top twenty. And obviously we
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Speaker 1: know where bo Nicks went with Sean Payton and the Broncos.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna change my tune. I mean, everyone I've texted
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Speaker 1: with has been saying second round, and if everyone is
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Speaker 1: saying second round, and again they're still doing their due
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Speaker 1: diligence with the character in the situation with the off
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Speaker 1: the field gambling. But let's be real about the off
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Speaker 1: the field stuff. Josh Jacobs was arrested for domestic violent situations,
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Speaker 1: was out of the clink a couple days later, was
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Speaker 1: taking handoffs at OTA's. There was a player on the Rams,
2:54
Speaker 1: there was a player on the Broncos. They were both
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Speaker 1: arrested for similar situations. Guess what would happen if they
3:01
Speaker 1: had a game the next week? They would all play.
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Speaker 1: So this notion that the NFL, and I've been saying
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Speaker 1: this forever, if you're looking for your morals and the
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Speaker 1: way to set the standard for society from the private sector,
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Speaker 1: let alone the NFL. You're barking up the wrong tree.
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Speaker 1: Do that with your parents, look to your mentors. But
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Speaker 1: if you're looking for the NFL to set the standard
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Speaker 1: for what's right and wrong, can you play? Can you
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Speaker 1: help me win? Can you help me generate the revenue?
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Speaker 1: Because if you can, you'll be on the field. We've
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Speaker 1: seen that my entire life. I'm forty years old, and
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Speaker 1: we will see that till my dying days. I promise
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Speaker 1: you that no one in the league gives a shit owners,
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Speaker 1: GMS coaches. If you can play. If you can't, different story,
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Speaker 1: ain't dealing with it. If you can come to my squad.
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Speaker 1: And like I said, my takeaway and I just watched
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Speaker 1: his good place. So a highlight tape. As I was
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Speaker 1: taught by Pat Hill of Fresno's you got to be
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Speaker 1: very careful. You never if you work in football, make
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Speaker 1: a decision based off a highlight tape. But the one
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Speaker 1: thing a highlight tape can tell you, especially with the
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Speaker 1: guy playing Division I power for football, this guy could play.
4:16
Speaker 1: So I think here's the thing with Brennon Soresby. He's
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Speaker 1: going way higher than anyone thought. And I wouldn't, you know,
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Speaker 1: bet my life on this. I wouldn't bet ten grand
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Speaker 1: on this. But I think there's a chance the guy
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Speaker 1: gets drafted in the first round of the supplemental draft,
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Speaker 1: which is a blind auction. I think there is no
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Speaker 1: chance on God's Green Earth unless something crazy comes out
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Speaker 1: in the next several weeks before this supplemental draft takes place,
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Speaker 1: that this guy makes it out of the second round.
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Speaker 1: Because here's who's you know in play. If you're a
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Speaker 1: good team with a Pro Bowl Hall of Fame level quarterback.
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Speaker 1: You go, you know, what were you typically drafting in
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Speaker 1: the late fifties in the early sixties. What if we
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Speaker 1: take him in a couple of years flip this guy
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Speaker 1: for a first round pick. What if in a year
5:05
Speaker 1: we flipped this guy for a first round pick. Historically
5:07
Speaker 1: that happened all the time in the NFL. So I
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Speaker 1: said this a week ago when the story first broke.
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Speaker 1: It's not just the Browns, the Jets, like those type
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Speaker 1: teams that everyone's gonna say they're gonna be all over.
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Speaker 1: The good teams are going to be extremely interested because
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Speaker 1: not that guy could supplant Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, Herbert,
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Speaker 1: you dave it all the top ten quarterbacks, Dak Prescott,
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Speaker 1: Jared Goff. Is that we get an asset who we
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Speaker 1: would never normally draft. I mean, we're not taking this
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Speaker 1: guy in the first round, but if we were just
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Speaker 1: in the NFC championship game and our pick was fifty nine,
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Speaker 1: like this guy. The reason people go, WHOA if he
5:51
Speaker 1: was going to be that hype of draft pick, why
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Speaker 1: do you go back to school? Well, it's pretty simple
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Speaker 1: it's the nil era Texas. Texas paid the kid five
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Speaker 1: or six million dollars to come. They were just in
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Speaker 1: the playoffs and they were going toe to toe with
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Speaker 1: the University of Oregon, which is clearly one of the
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Speaker 1: best four or five programs in the country. But their
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Speaker 1: quarterback was like me or you, they couldn't function on offense.
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Speaker 1: So we know they'll buy defensive players. Historically, they've always
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Speaker 1: had good offensive players. Ironically, they've always had good quarterbacks.
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Speaker 1: You know, if you gave that defense last year at
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Speaker 1: Texas Tech to Mike Leach, they would have won the
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Speaker 1: national champion. They would have been like Alabama. So this
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Speaker 1: guy's thinking, I'm going to have this team in the
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Speaker 1: semi finals all of a sudden, I'm going to have
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Speaker 1: an excellent year. I won't be a first round pick.
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Speaker 1: I'll be a top seven or eight pick. I'll be
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Speaker 1: in the mix with Dante Moore, whoever else established himself.
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Speaker 1: Who's say I can't go in the top five, you know?
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Speaker 1: So to me, the story of this guy from a
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Speaker 1: football standpoint is the reason he went to Tech Tec.
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Speaker 1: Number one money that they paid him a premium, and
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Speaker 1: number two, he's just projecting it out and he's looking
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Speaker 1: at all these other guys that transferred and ended up
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Speaker 1: as really high picks and thinking, I'm gonna go, I
7:05
Speaker 1: don't know, top ten, top twenty at least, and I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna make millions of dollars while I do it. So,
7:12
Speaker 1: you know, the gambling headlines gets everyone. We just saw
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Speaker 1: guys get go to jail like they're behind bars for
7:22
Speaker 1: the word the words domestic violence. Now I'm not saying
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Speaker 1: they're guilty, but I don't know about you. I've never
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Speaker 1: been arrested and gone to the clink for DV. And
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Speaker 1: then the next day Bennett work taking handoffs. So to
7:35
Speaker 1: act like the NFL is some moral high horse or
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Speaker 1: that they have some standard, give me a fucking break.
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Speaker 1: And when you play quarterback, which is, as we all know,
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Speaker 1: by far, the most important position on the team, and
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Speaker 1: if people go this guy can be it's not just
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Speaker 1: can the guy be a star? Can he be like
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Speaker 1: a top twelve quarterback, like no one asks, like Dak
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Speaker 1: Prescott's top five quarterback. When they had a good team
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Speaker 1: and he was playing at a high level for three
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Speaker 1: straight years, they were winning twelve games and they won
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Speaker 1: the division two out of three years in a division
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Speaker 1: with an operation led by Howie Roseman and a team
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Speaker 1: loaded with Pro Bowl guys. Mike McCarthy and Dak Prescott
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Speaker 1: did that. So if you go, Jared Goff has been
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Speaker 1: to a Super Bowl and been to an NFC Championship
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Speaker 1: on two different teams. So if you think this guy
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Speaker 1: can be a top ten ish quarterback, what's the value
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Speaker 1: that guy? Because you might want to google what Jared
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Speaker 1: Goff and Dak Prescott what they've made so far in
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Speaker 1: their career, and just projected out what they will make
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Speaker 1: when it's all said and done. My guess would be
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Speaker 1: over runner four hundred million dollars. So combine him, you're
8:38
Speaker 1: talking eight hundred million dollars, talking close to a billion
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Speaker 1: dollars from two players. Then no one would say is
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Speaker 1: like some all time great player. But the Cowboys seem
8:47
Speaker 1: damn happy. I know, Dan Campbell, the Lions are thrilled
8:50
Speaker 1: having Jared Goff and this guy. You know, from a
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Speaker 1: physical standpoint, you know, bo Nick's top fifteen pick. He
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Speaker 1: just had a team that if he doesn't break his ankles,
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Speaker 1: probably in the Super Bowl. Derek Carr was a high
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Speaker 1: second round pick and had the fucking Raiders pre Tom
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Speaker 1: Brady in this whole new operation with money in the
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Speaker 1: playoffs multiple times as starting quarterback. So this guy's gonna
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Speaker 1: go way hire, anyone thinks. And before we get back
9:21
Speaker 1: to football, one of the big stories of the last
9:24
Speaker 1: couple of days and specifically Sunday, was the United States
9:27
Speaker 1: Open And on Father's Day, I remember my dad took
9:30
Speaker 1: me and my good buddy Travis Rip to the Olympic
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Speaker 1: Club in nineteen ninety eight to watch the US Open.
9:39
Speaker 1: Lee Jansen ended up winning. Payne Stewart, who would win
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Speaker 1: the next year at Pinehurst in kind of a historic moment.
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Speaker 1: He as a statue beaten. Phil Mickelson should have won
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Speaker 1: that tournament and got boned on. They had some crazy
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Speaker 1: pin placements. But that's beside the point. If listen, I
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Speaker 1: know everyone listening to this doesn't love but typically in golf,
10:02
Speaker 1: unlike football or basketball, Like if you go to a
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Speaker 1: football game and you're a cowboy fan the games in
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Speaker 1: Dallas and you're playing the Eagles or you're playing the Giants,
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Speaker 1: you boo the other team, you talk shit to the
10:13
Speaker 1: other team, you hate the other team. In golf, especially
10:17
Speaker 1: in these major championships, you're kind of universally applauded. Right,
10:22
Speaker 1: this isn't a team sport where you're rooting against the
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Speaker 1: other team. But Wyndam Clark last year did a couple
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Speaker 1: of things. One at the PGA Championship, he projectiled his
10:33
Speaker 1: driver after a bad shot into it basically almost hit
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Speaker 1: a volunteer and nailed the T Mobile sign I think,
10:41
Speaker 1: which ironically, he's a T Mobile. He's sponsored by them,
10:45
Speaker 1: so it's kind of a little activation, but it was
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Speaker 1: a bad look. And then the next major he plays
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Speaker 1: at Oakmont, a historic course in Pittsburgh, and he ruins
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Speaker 1: the locker room like he just destroyed the locker room.
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Speaker 1: And since then, for the last year, the golf media
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Speaker 1: and Unlessen I don't know the guy personally. I don't
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Speaker 1: know if he's a good guy, bad guy or whatever.
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Speaker 1: But golfers lose their shit. I know some of you
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Speaker 1: guys listening that are fifteen twenty handicaps. You hit a
11:14
Speaker 1: bad shot, you get really angry, you throw some clumps.
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Speaker 1: It's part of the deal. Tiger Woods drop more f
11:19
Speaker 1: bombs than I've dropped on this podcast on live television.
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Speaker 1: It comes with the territory. The golf media has destroyed
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Speaker 1: this guy and early on rifles. It's not like they
11:30
Speaker 1: just made it up out of thin air. He brought
11:32
Speaker 1: this upon himself. But they never backed off. So for
11:37
Speaker 1: month after month after month, they acted like this guy
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Speaker 1: was the worst thing that the sport had ever seen. Meanwhile,
11:46
Speaker 1: they are two, at least in my general, in my lifetime,
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Speaker 1: the two most important players. One guy had to fly
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Speaker 1: to Sweden to go to rehab for like the third
11:55
Speaker 1: time in his life after flipping a car in a
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Speaker 1: residential road, which is fucking unheard of. And the other guy,
12:04
Speaker 1: I think we all know if Phil allegedly, I don't
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Speaker 1: want him suing me. Google his resume a lot of
12:10
Speaker 1: red flags and if either one of those guys had
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Speaker 1: been at Shinnacock, they would have been applauded. And I'm
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Speaker 1: not comparing Wyndham Clark's career, like his resume to those guys.
12:23
Speaker 1: It'd be like comparing Peyton Manning or Tom Brady like
12:26
Speaker 1: justin Herbert. It's not a fair fight. So like on
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Speaker 1: the course or on the field, his resume doesn't compare
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Speaker 1: to those guys. But again, like the way he was
12:36
Speaker 1: treated was like he's an all time scumbag. People couldn't
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Speaker 1: stand the guy. These fans. Shinnakock is in like the Hamptons.
12:43
Speaker 1: I have never been there. Clearly, I've watched enough Bravo
12:46
Speaker 1: Ritzy place. Right. They didn't just make this up. They
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Speaker 1: didn't just out of thin air. This guy's a fucking loser.
12:53
Speaker 1: I'm every time he hit a shot and something bad happened,
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Speaker 1: they applauded, They went nuts. They were actively rooting against them,
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Speaker 1: which is also kind of unheard of in the sports,
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Speaker 1: where it'd be one thing if he was an international player.
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Speaker 1: He's an American, grew up in Denver, went to high
13:11
Speaker 1: school with the mccaffreys, like is very close to Christian.
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Speaker 1: McCaffrey's older brother knows Christian very well. Went to Oregon
13:20
Speaker 1: and Oklahoma State, like he is a homegrown product. This
13:24
Speaker 1: was also his second US Open. The Masters is the
13:28
Speaker 1: most important golf tournament, but this is America's championship, and
13:34
Speaker 1: it's you would choose the Masters over It's easier to
13:37
Speaker 1: win the Masters than it is the US Opens because
13:39
Speaker 1: historically the US Open is way harder. People were destroying
13:44
Speaker 1: this guy on the golf course. They didn't just make
13:47
Speaker 1: this up. The media and listen I think Twitter is
13:50
Speaker 1: not real life. So anything you see on social media,
13:53
Speaker 1: there's so much hate. You've seen it with the World Cup.
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Speaker 1: All these people come internationally and they go God that
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Speaker 1: the new channels back in the UK or back wherever
14:02
Speaker 1: I live, you know, across the pond told me America
14:06
Speaker 1: is the worst place in the history of the world.
14:08
Speaker 1: I come over this place is great. Well yeah, no shit,
14:11
Speaker 1: I mean, don't let it fool you. Doesn't get any
14:14
Speaker 1: better than over here. But also sometimes like that does
14:18
Speaker 1: influence you. And if you're gonna go to a golf
14:20
Speaker 1: tournament like this sport is very niche, you're either going
14:24
Speaker 1: because you like golf, which means you follow it pretty closely,
14:28
Speaker 1: which in this day and age would mean on social media,
14:32
Speaker 1: or you're with someone that does and you would know
14:36
Speaker 1: they're like, we're kind of against this guy. I hate
14:40
Speaker 1: being blamed the media guy always because like I think
14:43
Speaker 1: a lot of times they don't matter that much in
14:47
Speaker 1: something like this. This was a The media is to
14:50
Speaker 1: blame for the reaction that is Twitter. In real life,
14:55
Speaker 1: these people did not just make up let's boo this
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Speaker 1: guy or when this guy hits a bad shot, because
15:03
Speaker 1: that's unheard of I don't ever remember this ever happening,
15:06
Speaker 1: and I've been watching golf for twenty five thirty years.
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Speaker 1: To me, the media is to blame for this, because
15:12
Speaker 1: this was a situation that he created through a golf
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Speaker 1: club out a volunteer barely missed him, could have hit
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Speaker 1: his knee or something. Obviously fucked up the locker room
15:23
Speaker 1: at Oakmont not a good look. Didn't take accountability right away,
15:27
Speaker 1: but month after that, no one ever let it go.
15:30
Speaker 1: No one ever let it go. And he just won
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Speaker 1: a US Open, which means he has two. He's won
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Speaker 1: two and what three or four years last time I checked, Scotti,
15:37
Speaker 1: Schffler's never won one, you know, kind of a big deal,
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Speaker 1: like pretty good player. And everyone was doing this because
15:44
Speaker 1: of what happened on social media. I don't even think
15:47
Speaker 1: that's debatable. And I'm not condoning the behavior. I've never
15:51
Speaker 1: been And again I'm the wrong. I'm jaded, like I
15:54
Speaker 1: go to If I do go to a game, it's
15:57
Speaker 1: I'm not one to boo or whatever. I'm just there
15:59
Speaker 1: to enjoy it. But I also get it, like I've
16:01
Speaker 1: always supported the consumer, they're the ones paying for this all,
16:07
Speaker 1: especially in a sport like, let's be real, if you
16:12
Speaker 1: have good seats at a basketball game, it's pretty incredible experience.
16:15
Speaker 1: I've been to one hockey game and it was pretty cool.
16:18
Speaker 1: We were close to the ice. I've been to a
16:20
Speaker 1: lot of football games, way better experience on television. I've
16:23
Speaker 1: been to a lot of golf tournaments, dramatically better on television.
16:27
Speaker 1: It's a television sport. But if you are going to
16:30
Speaker 1: pay a premium and go to the event, like like,
16:34
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you can't act like complete idiot, but like
16:38
Speaker 1: this sports, you're allowed to kind of push the envelope.
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Speaker 1: And they didn't just make this up. This was an
16:45
Speaker 1: internet thing, led and pushed by the golf media. They
16:52
Speaker 1: let this the story was created by Wyndham Clark, and
16:55
Speaker 1: they carried this thing for a long long time and
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Speaker 1: never relented on the guy. And I give him a
17:04
Speaker 1: lot of credit for this. And you say, phony fraud.
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Speaker 1: Whatever he said, Listen, it's kind of sucked. But like
17:11
Speaker 1: hopefully in time I earned their respect. It's not like
17:14
Speaker 1: he came up double middle fingers. Because I'll promise you this,
17:17
Speaker 1: you me a lot of people. I wouldn't have blamed
17:20
Speaker 1: him if at the end he would have been like
17:23
Speaker 1: f you to all those guys. He took the opposite approach.
17:27
Speaker 1: I said this about Kyler Murray when he handled the
17:30
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy thing, and the thing went viral, whether he's
17:33
Speaker 1: telling the truth or not, Like there's a way to
17:36
Speaker 1: be a pro, there's a way to carry yourself. These
17:39
Speaker 1: are big boy gigs that paid millions of dollars and
17:42
Speaker 1: a lot of expectation comes with that. Tiger got a
17:45
Speaker 1: lot of credit. You know why he didn't win every
17:47
Speaker 1: tournament when he lost him you know what he did.
17:50
Speaker 1: He sat in front of the media and he faced
17:52
Speaker 1: the music. So when athletes duck the media, whether you're
17:56
Speaker 1: a young or old Victor Webbin Yama, Rory McElroy, when
18:00
Speaker 1: you lose a devastating game or devastating tournament and you
18:04
Speaker 1: just leave, like part of the gig is to do that.
18:07
Speaker 1: And Windham the way he handled this, I gotta give
18:10
Speaker 1: him a lot of credit because I would not have.
18:15
Speaker 1: I would have doubled down and dub f you to
18:19
Speaker 1: the media, you to those people saying that I got
18:22
Speaker 1: two US opens and he did the opposite. But to
18:25
Speaker 1: act like these fans who are gonna get crushed by
18:28
Speaker 1: the golf media just made this up just randomly. Let's
18:32
Speaker 1: just root against this guy from a Denver, Colorado that
18:35
Speaker 1: now lives in Scott Steal. You know, he just looks
18:37
Speaker 1: like a douche. No, they don't do that, Rice in
18:42
Speaker 1: d Chambeau, Patrick Reid. We have polarizing players in the sport.
18:47
Speaker 1: They never get treated like that. The two most famous
18:51
Speaker 1: players have done some reprehensible shit. No one cares. This
18:57
Speaker 1: guy threw a golf club and hit a locker and
19:00
Speaker 1: people acted like he was a criminal. Like, give me
19:02
Speaker 1: a break. It's back to my Soresby thing. If you
19:05
Speaker 1: think Soresby's falling because he plays some bets on Indiana,
19:08
Speaker 1: like some random gms give a flying you know what
19:11
Speaker 1: about that? You gotta put down the weed man because
19:15
Speaker 1: they do not care. And if the league was like,
19:18
Speaker 1: was the league gonna let him in a supplemental draft?
19:20
Speaker 1: And league like, yeah, let him in. They don't care either,
19:23
Speaker 1: you know, they just don't. But like, I just think
19:29
Speaker 1: that this the number one story is going to be
19:31
Speaker 1: these fans in New York. I was at the Ryder
19:34
Speaker 1: Cup and I didn't hear all the nasty stuff, and
19:40
Speaker 1: I'm in total agreement. Wives families in general should always
19:45
Speaker 1: be off limits. If you're a fan at a game,
19:48
Speaker 1: whether it's basketball, football, golf, whatever, and you go after
19:51
Speaker 1: someone's wife, you are a complete loser. Like if we
19:56
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19:58
Speaker 1: would never want to as associate with you in the
20:02
Speaker 1: real world. I think, I don't care how many beers
20:06
Speaker 1: or cocktails you are. Deep. You are a loser. But
20:10
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20:13
Speaker 1: I mean, we've all been rooting against whoever our team
20:18
Speaker 1: was playing and said some things you probably like you
20:20
Speaker 1: wouldn't do a normal society, but in golf, that's not normal,
20:23
Speaker 1: and these fans didn't just make this up. And golf
20:27
Speaker 1: is probably more connected with social media than a lot
20:30
Speaker 1: of fans. Like if you just went to a random
20:31
Speaker 1: football game, you're gonna get some older people that aren't
20:33
Speaker 1: living on the internet. Probably not the case at a
20:35
Speaker 1: golf tournament because as you saw if you watch the day,
20:38
Speaker 1: there weren't that many people. There small percentage of people.
20:42
Speaker 1: So props to Wyndham Clark for winning the US Open,
20:45
Speaker 1: and a lot of credit for him the way he
20:47
Speaker 1: handled this situation, which you know is really one of
20:51
Speaker 1: those that isn't normal. It's not something you see and
20:56
Speaker 1: I'm not condoning, like acting like those people cheering when
20:58
Speaker 1: his balls go in the bunker or in the rough
21:02
Speaker 1: is like cool. But I also kind of understand it,
21:05
Speaker 1: and I think it was a creation led by a
21:08
Speaker 1: small group of people. I mean, I don't even think
21:11
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22:38
Speaker 1: the OTA's finished up. We're heading into training camp three
22:42
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22:46
Speaker 1: ten big picture going into camp, going into the season
22:50
Speaker 1: questions when it comes to the AFC. And this is
22:55
Speaker 1: no order, it's not like craziest to least crazy. These
22:58
Speaker 1: are just ten things that interests me that I think
23:01
Speaker 1: are gonna be heavy stories and major story lines headed
23:05
Speaker 1: into camp, headed into the season, and let's just dive
23:08
Speaker 1: right in. Let's start with number one. I mean, this
23:11
Speaker 1: team had made seven straight conference championship games. Think about that. Seven.
23:16
Speaker 1: All Patrick Mahomes had known as a starting quarterback had
23:20
Speaker 1: been playing in the AFC Championship Game and most time
23:23
Speaker 1: going to the Super Bowl. Last year, he went six
23:26
Speaker 1: and eleven towards ACL are the Chiefs gonna bounce back.
23:31
Speaker 1: You know that this team is dramatically different than the
23:33
Speaker 1: one that even made a run post Tyreek Hill. Ty
23:37
Speaker 1: McDuffie was a huge part of that team. They make
23:40
Speaker 1: the trade they draft TEDI McDuffie. He's an immediate impact
23:43
Speaker 1: player and they were often running and ironically as a
23:46
Speaker 1: post Tyreek Kill, they kind of became a defensive team.
23:49
Speaker 1: Well what did they just do? They took three defensive
23:52
Speaker 1: players in the top forty two linemen and Dlaane And
23:57
Speaker 1: to me, if Delane, who I think most people believe
24:00
Speaker 1: has a chance to be an excellent player, they clearly do.
24:03
Speaker 1: And the thing the Chiefs have going for him that
24:05
Speaker 1: is unique to them. They have a superstar coordinator who's
24:09
Speaker 1: not gonna leave right, Spags is going to retire a
24:13
Speaker 1: coordinator in the NFL. He makes a lot of money,
24:16
Speaker 1: he's got a great life. But they're lucky that way.
24:19
Speaker 1: They don't have to worry about constant turnovers. So he
24:21
Speaker 1: knows what it takes and those guys come in if
24:24
Speaker 1: he to me, their defense can bounce back if two
24:28
Speaker 1: of the three of those guys and one of them
24:30
Speaker 1: has to be delayed, so the corner has to be awesome,
24:33
Speaker 1: and then one of the pass rushers, whether it's Woods
24:37
Speaker 1: or Mason, become like a big time impact player along
24:42
Speaker 1: Karloftis bounces back, Chris Jones still playing at a high level.
24:45
Speaker 1: Then their defense is good, their offense has question marks, right,
24:48
Speaker 1: their old line's good. I think they're gonna run the
24:50
Speaker 1: ball more this year. But you know, this is a
24:53
Speaker 1: team that, over the course of Mahome's ten year kind
24:57
Speaker 1: of became the Cowboys. They had the highest television rating.
25:00
Speaker 1: They playing all the primetime games this year. Their schedule
25:03
Speaker 1: is littered with primetime games. Open up Monday Night Football.
25:07
Speaker 1: Broncos is the Chiefs. We're just assuming Mahomes is gonna play.
25:10
Speaker 1: I think he will. I mean, we had Andy on
25:13
Speaker 1: the show. He's pretty optimistic that things are going well.
25:17
Speaker 1: I mean they you never know with an injury, you
25:19
Speaker 1: can always have a setback. But it has gone as
25:21
Speaker 1: perfectly as possible to now, because one, I mean he's
25:25
Speaker 1: just a fast heeler and two he's a grinder. So
25:29
Speaker 1: I would imagine by the start of camp there's a
25:32
Speaker 1: decent chance he's just ready to go. I would imagine
25:35
Speaker 1: by middle of August at minimum, he's like taking the
25:38
Speaker 1: majority of the reps, but they do have you know,
25:40
Speaker 1: they could function with justin fields because you could do
25:44
Speaker 1: a running offense. You could run with him. To me,
25:46
Speaker 1: the question mark is the passing game. You know, she
25:49
Speaker 1: Rice spent a month in jail as of recording this.
25:52
Speaker 1: I think he still might be in there. You know,
25:54
Speaker 1: the firepower on offense is gonna be their question mark.
25:58
Speaker 1: But they've won a lot with that. As you know,
26:03
Speaker 1: kind of the build of their team. The difference was
26:05
Speaker 1: their defense was really good and Mahomes just would always
26:09
Speaker 1: make enough plays and then they got in the playoffs
26:11
Speaker 1: and the rest was history. But I think the Chiefs
26:14
Speaker 1: bounce back. I think depending on how big of an
26:17
Speaker 1: impact these young defensive players can have, changes their ceiling. Right.
26:22
Speaker 1: If they're just really solid, they're nine to ten win
26:24
Speaker 1: team and competitive and in the mix for wild card.
26:27
Speaker 1: If you get like defensive rookies of the year level impact,
26:31
Speaker 1: then you know you could win twelve thirty game. Their
26:33
Speaker 1: schedule is hard, but my guess right now, I think
26:37
Speaker 1: they're a wildcard team. Two. The Bills in the Ravens
26:43
Speaker 1: going into last year were the betting favorites to win
26:47
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl when the season ended, they both fired
26:51
Speaker 1: their coaches and in a weird way, like Harvaud been
26:56
Speaker 1: their eighteen years, he missed the playoffs right, huge expectations,
27:01
Speaker 1: they were spending a bunch of money. It's not the
27:03
Speaker 1: craziest thing. I do think that Sean McDermott, usually a coach,
27:08
Speaker 1: I understand they hadn't gotten over the hump, but every
27:10
Speaker 1: single year you're winning the division. This year was a
27:13
Speaker 1: little shocking. They didn't win the division, but they still,
27:15
Speaker 1: you know, are in the second round of the playoffs
27:17
Speaker 1: on the road with a chance to win. That moment
27:20
Speaker 1: for the owner with them all crying, I think got
27:22
Speaker 1: them fired. And they got Joe Brady and they and
27:26
Speaker 1: they got Mentor. So you have two coaches taking over
27:29
Speaker 1: for teams that a year ago were the betting favorites
27:33
Speaker 1: to win in the Super Bowl, with two guys with
27:36
Speaker 1: the combined three MVPs if you remove Patrick Mahomes, easily
27:40
Speaker 1: the two best quarterbacks of their generation, right, I mean
27:43
Speaker 1: just freak talents, like all time great talents. And these
27:47
Speaker 1: are not easy jobs because the expectation for both guys
27:52
Speaker 1: is gonna be to win and win big. Now, I
27:54
Speaker 1: don't think it's Super Bowl or bust for either coach
27:57
Speaker 1: year one, but it does have a little you know,
28:02
Speaker 1: the Knicks, Mike Brown had coached a lot like he
28:05
Speaker 1: had been a head coach countless places he had been around,
28:08
Speaker 1: and coach Lebron James he had been around, and coach
28:11
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant, right, so he had been a head coach
28:13
Speaker 1: let alone obviously assistant for a long time. These guys
28:16
Speaker 1: have never been head coaches. I mean, both are really young.
28:21
Speaker 1: There is no disputing I mean, Mentor's been We talk
28:25
Speaker 1: really really highly of Mike McDonald what he has done
28:27
Speaker 1: for Jim Harbaugh, right, Mike did that for John. What
28:31
Speaker 1: Mintor did for Jim at Michigan and then with the
28:34
Speaker 1: Chargers has been fucking awesome. Like, this guy is an
28:39
Speaker 1: ass kicking defensive coordinator. But we have seen sometimes these
28:42
Speaker 1: defensive coordinators become head coaches and it can be a
28:45
Speaker 1: little hit or miss, you know. And Joe Brady excellent,
28:49
Speaker 1: excellent offensive play caller since Sean McDermott gave him the
28:52
Speaker 1: go ahead. It's a little bit different animal when you're
28:55
Speaker 1: answering the questions on Sunday, when you're talking about the
28:57
Speaker 1: questions on Monday, when you're just again on Friday, like
29:00
Speaker 1: it's a lot more of you speaking for the team.
29:04
Speaker 1: You have to handle the other side of the ball,
29:06
Speaker 1: Like there's a pressure for both these guys. This is
29:08
Speaker 1: not you know, last year when when what the hell
29:14
Speaker 1: Liam Cohen took over the Jags. The expectations weren't that high,
29:18
Speaker 1: right if you're a Jags fan or you're him, But
29:20
Speaker 1: it was an easy landing spot because like this team,
29:23
Speaker 1: no one thought they were gonna be a playoff team.
29:26
Speaker 1: It's the opposite for these guys, like if you miss
29:29
Speaker 1: the playoffs with Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen, it's like,
29:32
Speaker 1: are you a one and done coach? These are not
29:35
Speaker 1: easy jobs. They are not. It is much easier to
29:38
Speaker 1: take Lafleur the Arizona Cardinals. Everyone thinks they're gonna suck.
29:41
Speaker 1: They're probably gonna suck. Their divisions loaded like whatever he
29:44
Speaker 1: wins three or four games. They were supposed to this
29:47
Speaker 1: thing if if you win nine, you go nine to
29:50
Speaker 1: eight and you were to miss the playoffs, like are
29:53
Speaker 1: you keeping your job? Like that's how that's how intense
29:57
Speaker 1: and that's part of the NFL. When you take over
29:59
Speaker 1: a team with extremely high expectations, which is pretty rare
30:03
Speaker 1: when you look around at most of the teams that
30:05
Speaker 1: were available, Like the Giants have sucked, the Cardinals have sucked,
30:09
Speaker 1: The Dolphins bottomed out like they were atrocious. When Vrabel
30:14
Speaker 1: last year took over the Patriots, they were god awful.
30:18
Speaker 1: You know, Kubiak taken over the Raiders, they couldn't have
30:21
Speaker 1: been any worse. Those are kind of nice jobs to
30:24
Speaker 1: take over for because the expectations are low. So I'm
30:28
Speaker 1: just fascinated to watch these two guys taken over these
30:31
Speaker 1: two franchises with these two quarterbacks. Now Mentor you know,
30:35
Speaker 1: before he went with Jim, was with John, so he's
30:37
Speaker 1: been in the Ravens organization. He knows Da Costa. Obviously,
30:40
Speaker 1: Brady has a better understanding of the entire roster because
30:44
Speaker 1: he's been around these guys for the last several years,
30:46
Speaker 1: even if he hasn't personally coached, you know, the defensive
30:49
Speaker 1: side of the ball, Like he knows all those guys,
30:51
Speaker 1: sees him every day and practice, sees him all the
30:53
Speaker 1: time in the building, Like he has relationships with them all.
30:57
Speaker 1: Close relationship with the offensive guys, but he's gonna know
30:59
Speaker 1: the defense guys. So a little easier transition that way
31:03
Speaker 1: from a from a personal standpoint, But I signed me
31:08
Speaker 1: up to watch those two teams. I might have been
31:11
Speaker 1: a year two early number three. The Texans are they
31:16
Speaker 1: gonna be the one seed? I took him last year
31:19
Speaker 1: eight to one to be the one seed. And obviously
31:22
Speaker 1: they got off to a awful start. I think one
31:24
Speaker 1: and three or one and four. They were just it
31:28
Speaker 1: looked really bad. And then they flipped the switch and
31:31
Speaker 1: became the you know, one of the best defense in
31:33
Speaker 1: the league and just were an excellent team until CJ.
31:36
Speaker 1: Shroud started just playing like he was a practice squad quarterback.
31:40
Speaker 1: Their roster this year is better. Will Anderson has a
31:44
Speaker 1: chance to be you know, his game's a little different
31:49
Speaker 1: than Miles Garrett. But like some version of Raider early Chicago,
31:54
Speaker 1: like Khalil Mack, like just a dumb knit, dumb knit
31:58
Speaker 1: outside ass kicking I'm the best player in the league.
32:01
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's going to be the best player
32:03
Speaker 1: in the league, but like in the argument, and he
32:06
Speaker 1: got paid that reason, but he didn't, you know, when
32:09
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack won the defensive player with the Raiders, the
32:12
Speaker 1: rest of the defense mainly sucked. That ain't the case here.
32:15
Speaker 1: They got defensive linement. They just added a d tackle
32:18
Speaker 1: in the second round of the draft, high in the
32:19
Speaker 1: second round because they had the Commander's pick. They obviously
32:23
Speaker 1: got daneil Hunter back. Their linebacking corps is fast and physical,
32:26
Speaker 1: and their DB's are excellent. I mean, this defense has
32:29
Speaker 1: a chance. If you told me the Houston Texans this
32:32
Speaker 1: year have the best scoring defense by a point or two,
32:36
Speaker 1: like a wide margin, I'd believe you. To me, they're
32:39
Speaker 1: definitely my pick to win the division. You can get
32:41
Speaker 1: them plus odds to win the division. To me, that's
32:44
Speaker 1: a lock. And I think the question mark is how
32:47
Speaker 1: high is this team ceiling? You know, Tank Dell. It
32:49
Speaker 1: feels like might have a chance to come back. I'm
32:51
Speaker 1: not you know, my expectations here would be low. But
32:55
Speaker 1: Nico Collins is a baller. They traded for David Montgomery.
32:59
Speaker 1: They have a set your coordinator, so it's not like
33:01
Speaker 1: they're bringing in a new guy. Dimiko's established himself as
33:04
Speaker 1: like I mean, obviously, once you win the Super Bowl,
33:08
Speaker 1: you get you kind of get anointed and rightfully so
33:11
Speaker 1: you earn that. But I think he's the AFC version
33:14
Speaker 1: of Mike McDonald. He's an elite defensive mind, he's an
33:18
Speaker 1: elite defensive leader. I expect the Texans to be fucking
33:23
Speaker 1: awesome this year, and the key is gonna come down
33:26
Speaker 1: to can the quarterback, Like, can you just kind of
33:29
Speaker 1: play like Alex Smith. We're not looking for you to
33:32
Speaker 1: be Josh Allen, because news flash, you're not. Like just
33:37
Speaker 1: play within yourself. Watch some Jared Goff tape. Play like
33:41
Speaker 1: that with a little more mobility. If you play smart,
33:45
Speaker 1: we can win the whole thing. Kyle Shanahan said it
33:48
Speaker 1: when he was in the Super Bowl and they had
33:50
Speaker 1: him do the TV before the Super Bowl. He said,
33:53
Speaker 1: there were two teams we played this year that could
33:56
Speaker 1: have won the Super Bowl just based on special teams
33:59
Speaker 1: and defense and a quarterback just not screwing it up.
34:03
Speaker 1: It was Seattle and obviously Darnold exceeded that and the
34:06
Speaker 1: Texans and what was the Texans downfall? I mean CJ
34:10
Speaker 1: tried to give that Steeler game away. So I think
34:13
Speaker 1: all eyes are on him because I think the ceiling
34:15
Speaker 1: for this team if he just play solid, is thirteen
34:18
Speaker 1: fourteen wins and you know, making a run to the
34:21
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Is this the year Cincinnati wins the AFC
34:26
Speaker 1: because Joe Burrow said it that they've won it before,
34:30
Speaker 1: and he said it during this OTAs this is the
34:32
Speaker 1: most talented team we've had, Like, this is the most
34:35
Speaker 1: well rounded team we've had. Mike Brown takes a lot
34:38
Speaker 1: of shit rightfully. So I mean, if you look at
34:40
Speaker 1: his tenure with being cheap over the years, I mean,
34:43
Speaker 1: Carson Palmer quit on him because of it. But there
34:46
Speaker 1: is no disputing they tried. They tried hard this offseason
34:49
Speaker 1: because they gave into Joe's demands last year about and listen,
34:53
Speaker 1: t Higgins is an excellent they take a one B
34:56
Speaker 1: and Jamar Chase is just a Hall of Fame level talent.
34:59
Speaker 1: No brainer, you keep him. A lot of teams would
35:01
Speaker 1: be like, hey, could we trade Higgins draft another guy
35:04
Speaker 1: in the second round and spread this money other way. Well,
35:07
Speaker 1: Joe likes him, so we kept him. And you know, defensively,
35:12
Speaker 1: that was a major question mark last year they were
35:14
Speaker 1: tro especially two years ago when they you know, last
35:16
Speaker 1: year the problem was he got injured. But two years
35:19
Speaker 1: ago when they were hot at the end of the season,
35:21
Speaker 1: the problem was their defense had let him down so
35:22
Speaker 1: many times that season. Well, you add Dexter Jackson, you
35:27
Speaker 1: uh draft Casius Howell in the second round. I think
35:30
Speaker 1: he's got a chance to be like seven to eight sack,
35:34
Speaker 1: you know, a season guy as like a designated pass rusher.
35:37
Speaker 1: I know he's got short arms, but if you watch
35:40
Speaker 1: SEC football, that fucking guy was a problem. So I
35:45
Speaker 1: think the ceiling is like, hey, Joe, you play seventeen games,
35:49
Speaker 1: establish yourself, because when we talk about quarterbacks now, I
35:53
Speaker 1: don't quite include him in the big three. And maybe
35:56
Speaker 1: it's just because of last year the injury kind of
35:59
Speaker 1: out of side, out of mind. It's like for a
36:03
Speaker 1: couple of years it was like Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, and
36:06
Speaker 1: Lamar's like the group of the four of them, those
36:08
Speaker 1: were clearly the top four guys. And then we could
36:11
Speaker 1: argue like five, six, seven, But like Joe kind of
36:14
Speaker 1: needs a year, Like, hey guys, I'm still a huge
36:17
Speaker 1: part of this league as a dominant, dominant quarterback. And
36:21
Speaker 1: I the only excuse would be is like is the
36:25
Speaker 1: coach not good enough? But we've seen the coach win
36:28
Speaker 1: some big games, Like the Bengals have won big games
36:31
Speaker 1: in the past. They beat the Bills, they obviously beat
36:33
Speaker 1: the Chiefs in the AFC Championship game. Like remember, for
36:36
Speaker 1: a couple of years straight they were playing the Chiefs
36:38
Speaker 1: in some of the best games of the year. So
36:40
Speaker 1: it's not like Zach Taylor is Mike McDaniel like this.
36:42
Speaker 1: The fucking guy's won some big time games. So I'm
36:46
Speaker 1: gonna pick the Bengals to win that division. I think
36:48
Speaker 1: their ceiling is AFC Championship AFC contender for sure. Their
36:54
Speaker 1: ceiling is really high. You know, Dexter Lawrence coming off
36:57
Speaker 1: a bad year. If he's healthy, if he's motive, I
37:00
Speaker 1: think their d line could be dramatically better. I know
37:04
Speaker 1: they took a lot of shit last year with Trey Hendrickson,
37:07
Speaker 1: Like I'd be fine. I like their situation better now
37:11
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37:14
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Speaker 1: is when you win three or four games and you're like,
39:21
Speaker 1: that season was terrible. You were trying to win. That's
39:25
Speaker 1: what makes it bad, right. The Arizona Cardinals drafted third
39:28
Speaker 1: last year. Jonathan Gannon did everything humanly possible to win
39:32
Speaker 1: every game he coached last year, and so did their players.
39:35
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you same with the Jets. Sometimes you
39:38
Speaker 1: just suck. So if this quarterback class in college and
39:44
Speaker 1: we'll know by like mid October, like, holy shit, these
39:48
Speaker 1: kids look good. It's like Arch has figured some suff
39:51
Speaker 1: Do you see Dante More, you see Carr and Notre Dame.
39:56
Speaker 1: You see what Leonora Sellers looks like this year for
39:59
Speaker 1: South Carolina? Have you seen John Matteer? How much better
40:03
Speaker 1: he looks like? Healthy down in Oklahoma? How good he looks.
40:07
Speaker 1: And there could be three or four guys I'm not
40:09
Speaker 1: even mentioning that are like look at this guy, look
40:11
Speaker 1: at this guy. Look at this guy come to trade deadline.
40:14
Speaker 1: It could get interesting. And the way you can cook
40:16
Speaker 1: the books in football is get rid of players, play
40:19
Speaker 1: young guys, and he just won't be good enough. So
40:21
Speaker 1: I don't think tanking necessarily, like teams are just gonna
40:25
Speaker 1: throw games, but it could become a growing conversation and
40:30
Speaker 1: the key will be is how good do these college
40:33
Speaker 1: quarterbacks look? Cause if by early mid October it's clear
40:37
Speaker 1: a couple guys like this guy looks like a star,
40:41
Speaker 1: I think the conversation is gonna grow. And again not
40:44
Speaker 1: throwing games, but just we need to put ourselves in
40:49
Speaker 1: the best position. We're two to nine, let's just make
40:52
Speaker 1: sure we don't end up with six wins and we
40:55
Speaker 1: stay around those three or four more number six. Again,
40:58
Speaker 1: these weren't any order. The stories that interested me and
41:02
Speaker 1: I think are gonna be major talking points really August
41:06
Speaker 1: through the start of the season, Like is it kind
41:08
Speaker 1: of time for Jim Harbon Herbert take the next step?
41:12
Speaker 1: I saw Jim Harball win big with Alex Smith and
41:16
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick. He is the best quarterback he's ever coached.
41:21
Speaker 1: It's coached some really good ones. I mean, those two
41:22
Speaker 1: guys are good for him. Josh Johnson was good for
41:24
Speaker 1: him in San Diego, Andrew Lucke obviously, JJ McCarthy in college, Like,
41:28
Speaker 1: he's coached really good players and he's one big with him.
41:31
Speaker 1: No one's ever had the talent of this guy, and
41:34
Speaker 1: right now he's kind of feels a little James Hardiny
41:37
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Now it's it's not an apples to
41:40
Speaker 1: apples comparison, but there's no disputing his playoff performance has
41:44
Speaker 1: been pretty shitty and he clearly has never had a
41:47
Speaker 1: head coach this good. They also added Mike McDaniel, So
41:51
Speaker 1: you're gonna have this goofy little bastard who's like this
41:53
Speaker 1: offensive genius who has learned from Kyle, like wants to
41:57
Speaker 1: run the ball, which is Jim's deal. Now gets Herbert,
42:01
Speaker 1: you get the offensive lineman back. Let's keep our fingers crossed.
42:04
Speaker 1: They're both healthy. Last year, they drafted the first round
42:07
Speaker 1: running back from North Carolina, who I thought looked kind
42:09
Speaker 1: of slow last year, and I'm gonna give him a
42:12
Speaker 1: little bit of a pass rookie season maybe just didn't
42:14
Speaker 1: go well. Their offensive line was banged up. But you
42:18
Speaker 1: get drafted in the first round at running back like
42:20
Speaker 1: I expect you to be by year two, like twelve
42:22
Speaker 1: thirteen hundred year. A guy, your guy, and we know
42:27
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh is gonna tell Mike like, let's keep calling runs,
42:30
Speaker 1: keep running behind the big fells, so which should make
42:33
Speaker 1: life easier on Herbert. Their defense should be really good.
42:36
Speaker 1: Now they lose mentor they bring back I think an
42:38
Speaker 1: assistant coach who had been there before. They Khalil Max back,
42:43
Speaker 1: they add Messador the Miami defensive linemen, Like their defensive
42:49
Speaker 1: line should be pretty good. They just extended Derwin James,
42:52
Speaker 1: I think technically the highest paid player. He's just an
42:55
Speaker 1: elite player, Like you got some big time pieces on
42:58
Speaker 1: this team, and I think I think the expectation is
43:02
Speaker 1: to compete for the AFC. But the easiest way to
43:05
Speaker 1: compete for the AFC you saw the Denver Broncos do
43:07
Speaker 1: it last year. I kind of gotta win the division,
43:09
Speaker 1: like you win the division at home games, like every
43:11
Speaker 1: year the Chargers are going on the road in the
43:14
Speaker 1: playoffs and I don't care who you're playing, Like it's
43:16
Speaker 1: not easy to do that. And last year they got
43:19
Speaker 1: just kind of worked. They just did not play well.
43:22
Speaker 1: But Herbert was atrocious but I think I think there's
43:28
Speaker 1: some pressure, not that he's getting get fired or anything,
43:30
Speaker 1: but like when's this gonna happen? You know whence we
43:34
Speaker 1: got everything going for us right now and it's kind
43:36
Speaker 1: of time is now speaking of a team that doesn't
43:40
Speaker 1: have that much going for in terms of like they're
43:44
Speaker 1: not gonna be that good this year. They're gonna be
43:46
Speaker 1: much better than they were last year because they drafted
43:48
Speaker 1: number one overall. But when you have a division with
43:52
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, the Broncos and the Chargers, like it's there's
43:55
Speaker 1: a reason lately that the Raiders have kind of fallen
43:57
Speaker 1: on hard times. But to me esction with the Raiders
44:00
Speaker 1: is like when mendoz are going to start and listen,
44:05
Speaker 1: it's I think the off season for him, the transition.
44:10
Speaker 1: He had five career under center snaps in college, five
44:17
Speaker 1: career under center snaps. What do you think Kubiak asked
44:20
Speaker 1: this quarterback to do play under center? That transition is
44:24
Speaker 1: really difficult and it might be his second year when
44:28
Speaker 1: he's finally comfortable doing that. Very understandable. We've had established
44:32
Speaker 1: guys Aaron Rodgers, Matt Ryan playing this offense that it
44:36
Speaker 1: takes a little time. One big benefit for Sam Darnold
44:40
Speaker 1: is he spent all year in San Francisco when Kobie
44:43
Speaker 1: goes there and was comfortable in the offense. Kevin O'Connell's
44:47
Speaker 1: a little different, but a lot of similar concepts. He
44:51
Speaker 1: was used to doing that. So to me, how fast
44:55
Speaker 1: can he take what he learned this offseason because once
44:58
Speaker 1: you get to camp the Bulletstar, it's a much different
45:02
Speaker 1: pace than the offseason. So is he comfortable going under center?
45:05
Speaker 1: Because if he can get I don't know halfway there,
45:09
Speaker 1: there's no way to meet Kirk Cousins should be able
45:11
Speaker 1: to beat him out. Now Kobiak has said, he said it.
45:15
Speaker 1: I think before the draft, ideally a rookie does not
45:18
Speaker 1: have to play. And I think that's easy to say
45:20
Speaker 1: that the Chiefs pulled that off seamlessly. Most of the
45:23
Speaker 1: time that doesn't happen because most of the time your
45:25
Speaker 1: team is not good. People want to see the rookie quarterback.
45:29
Speaker 1: I do think they. I don't want to say hell bent.
45:32
Speaker 1: I think in a perfect world, Kirk Cousins starts the season.
45:36
Speaker 1: Here's a thing, though they bought a bunch of players
45:39
Speaker 1: and Crosby because of the Bots trade is on the
45:42
Speaker 1: team still. So if it's clear in camp like hey,
45:45
Speaker 1: mendoz is better, these guys arena be like, why why
45:48
Speaker 1: can't we just compete this year? I mean, those guys say,
45:50
Speaker 1: why can't we make the playoffs? But before the season starts,
45:54
Speaker 1: every team thinks they have a chance. So you couldn't
45:56
Speaker 1: sell it to the locker room playing the shittier player,
46:00
Speaker 1: or because I always just want to ease in on
46:02
Speaker 1: the rookie. So it's gonna be fascinating. You know, the
46:05
Speaker 1: preseason games, how he looks. Do they even throw him
46:08
Speaker 1: out there if they got backups going? Obviously the training
46:11
Speaker 1: camp practices. I'm sure the Raiders have some joint practices.
46:15
Speaker 1: You know, mendoz Is gonna have to prove to not
46:17
Speaker 1: just the coaches but his teammates like I'm good enough
46:20
Speaker 1: if he's gonna start. If I was a betting man
46:22
Speaker 1: right now, I would say Cousin starts week one. But
46:28
Speaker 1: you know, if based on everything we've heard about this
46:30
Speaker 1: guy's you know, mental aptitude and ability to like learn fast,
46:35
Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy that by two weeks into
46:37
Speaker 1: camp he spent all off season. There's some story he
46:41
Speaker 1: you know, back in Miami or wherever he's living. Every
46:43
Speaker 1: single day he repped under center. He flew Linderbaum out there,
46:48
Speaker 1: you know, for three different four day stretches, and they
46:51
Speaker 1: did double days of doing center quarterback exchanges. Like if
46:56
Speaker 1: he if he is able to make the transition and
46:59
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, by camp he's like doing well
47:00
Speaker 1: at it. I bet there's something in the summer. It's
47:03
Speaker 1: like he spent countless hours doing that, because getting comfortable
47:07
Speaker 1: under center, turning your back to the defense is that offense,
47:11
Speaker 1: the play action, the boots, like that is the Kubiak Shanahan,
47:16
Speaker 1: the core of it. And that is not what he
47:19
Speaker 1: ever did in college. So it's I mean, it's kind
47:22
Speaker 1: of like going from English to Chinese or Spanish or French.
47:26
Speaker 1: I mean it's just a completely different language. And how
47:30
Speaker 1: fast he's able to make that transition and feel comfortable
47:33
Speaker 1: doing it is gonna be how quick he gets on
47:36
Speaker 1: the field if he wins the job. You know, if
47:38
Speaker 1: he's going to win the job, he's that's gonna be
47:40
Speaker 1: the most important part because I think he'll understand the offense,
47:43
Speaker 1: like the routes they're running and the calls. I don't
47:46
Speaker 1: think I think that's gonna be the least of Mendoz's worries.
47:49
Speaker 1: I think it's getting comfortable under center and when the
47:52
Speaker 1: live bullets are flying, which can take time. It took
47:56
Speaker 1: Jared Goff time. His first year was ugly, and I
48:00
Speaker 1: think if Mendoza turns out to be Jared Goff, the
48:03
Speaker 1: Raiders be doing cartwheels. Number eight is the McCarthy Rogers, Like,
48:11
Speaker 1: how many people do you know, older people that have
48:16
Speaker 1: a breakup and then get back together later in life
48:20
Speaker 1: and it just works out. It doesn't seem like it
48:24
Speaker 1: happens that often. And these guys and I get it,
48:28
Speaker 1: they're playing kumbaya. We loved each other, We have a
48:31
Speaker 1: great relationship. I remember twenty eighteen. Now, I'm old enough.
48:35
Speaker 1: I've been through enough experiences in my life, so have
48:38
Speaker 1: many of you. Times change, you change in life. It's
48:42
Speaker 1: not everyone's holding grudges. Maybe you just forget, maybe only
48:45
Speaker 1: remember the good times. They both McCarthy's made a bunch
48:49
Speaker 1: of money, Rogers made a ton of money, had success
48:51
Speaker 1: once McCarthy got fired, So maybe that's not as important here.
48:57
Speaker 1: But one thing we know about the Steelers is they
48:59
Speaker 1: play on winning now, not winning big, but they do
49:03
Speaker 1: not want to bought him out. They want to attempt
49:05
Speaker 1: to win nine or ten games at minimum. So there
49:08
Speaker 1: is pressure on this franchise because you go one, the
49:10
Speaker 1: Bengals are clearly gonna be a lot better. The Raves
49:13
Speaker 1: is just always good. You just play a knockdown, drag
49:16
Speaker 1: out games with them, and then the AFC is just tough.
49:19
Speaker 1: So the one question I have with Rogers, because McCarty
49:24
Speaker 1: has proven once he left Packers like he knows what
49:27
Speaker 1: he's doing. If he gets a good quarterback playing a
49:28
Speaker 1: good roster, like he can win your twelve games. Now,
49:31
Speaker 1: is he gonna go on crazy runs in the playoffs?
49:33
Speaker 1: Probably not. But what he did with the Dallas Cowboys
49:36
Speaker 1: those three years, win twelve games, win the division two
49:38
Speaker 1: out of three years, Dak shit to bet in the playoffs.
49:42
Speaker 1: I put it actually more on Dak than McCarthy. But
49:46
Speaker 1: you know, is Rogers gonna be able to stay healthy?
49:49
Speaker 1: I mean last year broke his wrister, his hand or whatever,
49:52
Speaker 1: And I have nothing but respect and admiration for the
49:56
Speaker 1: guy at this point in time in his life. What
49:58
Speaker 1: he's accomplished on the field, what his bank account looks
50:01
Speaker 1: like off the field, Like bro you don't need to
50:03
Speaker 1: do this, Like no one's ever questioned your toughness or anything.
50:07
Speaker 1: But it's like, the guy's a fucking football player, and
50:09
Speaker 1: he battled through it, which I actually think earned him
50:12
Speaker 1: a lot of equity with Steeler people, because clearly their
50:14
Speaker 1: team was pretty flawed. Right, They had one wide receiver,
50:17
Speaker 1: they had like seventeen tight ends. They didn't really have
50:20
Speaker 1: a running game. I mean, gain Well was by far
50:23
Speaker 1: their best back. The dude they drafted in the third round,
50:26
Speaker 1: who actually kind of liked in college from Iowa was terrible.
50:29
Speaker 1: So now think about this offseason. You had Pittman, who
50:34
Speaker 1: is just a credible reminds me a lot of the
50:36
Speaker 1: guys they had with the Packers, and they draft the
50:40
Speaker 1: bam m a kid in the second round. So their
50:43
Speaker 1: tight end group was good, and yet you had some
50:46
Speaker 1: wide receiver help to go with. You know, DK's a
50:48
Speaker 1: little overpaid, but he's he is what he is. I mean,
50:50
Speaker 1: he's a big time threat. Giving what he brings to
50:53
Speaker 1: the table, I think the question marks gonna be the
50:55
Speaker 1: offensive line. They drafted an offensive lineman in the first round.
50:57
Speaker 1: Now is that guy just gonna be able to play
50:59
Speaker 1: as a rookie. I think that's time will tell on
51:03
Speaker 1: that one. But I think the Steelers are pretty intriguing now.
51:07
Speaker 1: They maybe they won't be as the season goes on,
51:09
Speaker 1: but I'll tell you this, early on in the season,
51:11
Speaker 1: I am fascinated to watch mccarthyen Rodgers. You got these
51:15
Speaker 1: videos coming out of him at OTA's with the chin strap.
51:18
Speaker 1: You know, Rogers pretty into it. Roger's pretty proud. This
51:20
Speaker 1: is last year. He's clearly a very prideful individual. I
51:24
Speaker 1: think he takes a lot of pride to in Like,
51:27
Speaker 1: you know, he's with the Jets for a minute and
51:29
Speaker 1: it was such a joke. You know, this kind of
51:32
Speaker 1: feels a little more legitimate, and I think that's why
51:36
Speaker 1: he laid it on the line last year. I mean,
51:39
Speaker 1: he tried to do that for the Jets when he
51:40
Speaker 1: tours Achilles. So you know, he takes a lot of shit,
51:43
Speaker 1: a lot of it fucking pretty unfair, but some of
51:47
Speaker 1: it he clearly has brought on himself. I do think
51:50
Speaker 1: the respect from a football standpoint of like, he's kind
51:53
Speaker 1: of wired like alignment in terms of toughness, in terms
51:56
Speaker 1: of will to play, in terms of doing whatever it
51:58
Speaker 1: is to get out on the field. You can never
52:02
Speaker 1: ever argue that with Aaron Rodgers. So I would say
52:05
Speaker 1: historically this type of stuff usually ends bad, you know.
52:10
Speaker 1: And if we use the comp of Farv, where their
52:13
Speaker 1: careers have kind of paralleled each other, I mean borderline
52:17
Speaker 1: to a t. Farv's last year with Minnesota was not good.
52:22
Speaker 1: By the end of it, he was injured and couldn't play.
52:24
Speaker 1: The season was disaster, and I think the coach got fired.
52:27
Speaker 1: So McCarthy's not getting fired here. But and who knows
52:31
Speaker 1: by you know, the middle of July, maybe they've drafted
52:33
Speaker 1: Brendan Sowersby. But I'm pretty fascinated to watch, Like, is
52:38
Speaker 1: this McCarthy Rodgers thing gonna work? Is it gonna be fun?
52:41
Speaker 1: If you just told me it's fun, sign me up
52:44
Speaker 1: number nine. You know, this team was in the Super
52:47
Speaker 1: Bowl last year. They have their you know, brains beating in.
52:52
Speaker 1: But the Rayble offseason has been a nightmare. Now it
52:56
Speaker 1: has been all quiet on the TMZ ray Russini front.
53:01
Speaker 1: And maybe it's over. Maybe we're just moving on. That's
53:03
Speaker 1: how society works. This is one of those situations though, that,
53:09
Speaker 1: like at any moment a news story can come to light.
53:13
Speaker 1: Is she just gonna retire, like she's never gonna report again.
53:16
Speaker 1: She's just done. She's just not gonna be involved in
53:19
Speaker 1: the NFL. She was a prominent individual in the machine
53:25
Speaker 1: that was the National Football League of the entertainment product,
53:29
Speaker 1: like she played a role. She's just she's out. Is
53:32
Speaker 1: she ever gonna sit down with someone and tell her
53:35
Speaker 1: side of the story, you know, because Rabel's clearly moved on,
53:39
Speaker 1: you know what they say about you know, I don't
53:43
Speaker 1: even want to out of respect, we've already said enough
53:47
Speaker 1: I because I know it's a shitty situation for her
53:52
Speaker 1: and she gets beat up more than him. And he's
53:54
Speaker 1: he's every bit the dog, like he gets off pretty
53:57
Speaker 1: easy on the situation. It's like, but regardless, if this
54:03
Speaker 1: season doesn't go well and relatively speaking, right, if they
54:08
Speaker 1: were to miss the playoffs, go to like nine to
54:10
Speaker 1: eight and miss the wild card by a game, their
54:12
Speaker 1: schedule is really hard. Is this going to be a
54:15
Speaker 1: talking point when they lose games during the season, which
54:18
Speaker 1: they didn't lose last year, because I'm expecting the Bills
54:22
Speaker 1: to win the division this year. But like the one
54:25
Speaker 1: thing you would say, huge advantage for the Patriots over
54:28
Speaker 1: the Bills. They have a one established coaching staff. Mike
54:33
Speaker 1: Vrabel is proven as a winning head coach to be
54:36
Speaker 1: able to handle the team, and their coordinator on the
54:38
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball is elite. Well, it's like,
54:42
Speaker 1: does Vrabel like just have normal swag? He just none
54:45
Speaker 1: of this matters anymore. It's just water under the bridge
54:47
Speaker 1: and we're moving on. If you tell me that's the case,
54:51
Speaker 1: I like the Patriots more. If you tell me some
54:54
Speaker 1: stuff comes back to the surface, which again can happen
54:59
Speaker 1: at any moment, it could get weird, especially once football
55:04
Speaker 1: is actually going on. It's one thing in the OTAs
55:06
Speaker 1: like whatever, none of this shit even matters. OTAs in
55:09
Speaker 1: twenty twenty whatever six is a joke, and it was
55:13
Speaker 1: still really weird. But the players, you know, all these
55:15
Speaker 1: guys this media training like yeah, no problem, he's fine.
55:18
Speaker 1: We love them, which again they don't give a shit.
55:20
Speaker 1: I mean half the guys on the team have significant
55:22
Speaker 1: others in side pieces as well. Have been a large
55:25
Speaker 1: percentage of people in the league deal coaches as well, like,
55:28
Speaker 1: he's not some lone wolf here, I'm not condoned in
55:32
Speaker 1: that behavior, not allowed in my home. Promise you this
55:35
Speaker 1: that happened in my home, and I would have been
55:37
Speaker 1: in his situation. This office I'm sitting with or in
55:41
Speaker 1: in on my property wouldn't be my property because she'd
55:45
Speaker 1: have access to the property. I would not. You know,
55:48
Speaker 1: I'm sure many of you can relate. It would There
55:51
Speaker 1: would be no I'm still in love with my wife,
55:52
Speaker 1: she still loves me. Those days would be fucking over.
55:56
Speaker 1: But we all have different rules that we abide by
55:59
Speaker 1: in our home. Clearly, Vrabel's rules are pretty open ended. Last,
56:04
Speaker 1: but not least, this one's kind of personal. Can Robert
56:07
Speaker 1: Sala become a really good head coach? Because there is
56:11
Speaker 1: no reason he shouldn't be he is when you watch
56:15
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys throughout the league, especially if
56:17
Speaker 1: you just go the defense side of the ball, like
56:18
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald. His personality clearly, the players love him. Clearly,
56:21
Speaker 1: he's an excellent schematic guy. Clearly, he's an easy to
56:25
Speaker 1: get along with human like these are all the qualities
56:28
Speaker 1: of Sala. And is it just the Jets stink? Because
56:32
Speaker 1: we saw with Sam Donald it was just the Jets.
56:34
Speaker 1: It was just the stink of that franchise. He got away.
56:37
Speaker 1: He shined Super Bowl champ I mean, one of the
56:40
Speaker 1: just the feel good stories of the NFL. Really the
56:43
Speaker 1: last couple of years, Sam Donald and Sala gets away
56:46
Speaker 1: from the Jets, goes back to the forty nine ers.
56:48
Speaker 1: They go twelve and five with a bunch of practice squatters,
56:51
Speaker 1: plumbers and firemen. By the end of the season, they
56:54
Speaker 1: win a fucking playoff game because he's got guys that
56:57
Speaker 1: he probably doesn't even know their names making plays in
56:59
Speaker 1: his deep. Even when he was with the Jets, their
57:02
Speaker 1: defense was unreal until he got fired and the defense
57:05
Speaker 1: fell off a cliff. And the difference is this time around,
57:08
Speaker 1: like he's gonna be the defensive coordinator. He's got his
57:11
Speaker 1: best friend Gus Bradley right there with him, who's the
57:13
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, but sawas call in the place. He brings
57:17
Speaker 1: in Dable, who's called plays for a long long time
57:20
Speaker 1: as a head coach and as an assistant coach who
57:22
Speaker 1: knows what he's doing. I think Saul has no business
57:26
Speaker 1: being like in ten years, like Robertson is a really
57:28
Speaker 1: good coach, Like he has a lot of qualities that
57:32
Speaker 1: like that, like the Harbab brothers have that Mike Tomlin has.
57:36
Speaker 1: He's kind of a mixture of Dan Campbell of Mike Vrabel,
57:40
Speaker 1: like he should be in that world, right, like just
57:44
Speaker 1: a really really good head coach. And you know, some
57:48
Speaker 1: guys for whatever reason excel at being a defensive coordinator,
57:52
Speaker 1: which typically it's like Vic Fancio. Yeah, he's a little grumpy,
57:55
Speaker 1: a little too crimudgeony, like just the offensive guys are
57:58
Speaker 1: not gonna like him. That's not gonna be some problem.
58:01
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniel's like, how could he not figure that out?
58:04
Speaker 1: Because he just turns into a raging ale. You know,
58:07
Speaker 1: that's not really gonna be solid deal, So I I'm
58:11
Speaker 1: buying solid stock. The one question mark would be cam
58:15
Speaker 1: Ward is very talented, big ass arm, can move, can
58:20
Speaker 1: make all the throws. Can he play high level NFL quarterback?
58:24
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know the answer to that.
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Speaker 1: Now day Ball really liked him, really believes in him,
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Speaker 1: so they're going in with a guy Sawa. Part of
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Speaker 1: the reason he liked the job was because they played
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Speaker 1: the Titans this year and cam actually made some plays
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Speaker 1: in that game. Granted, the Niners again were rolling out
58:42
Speaker 1: me and you, but he definitely was an intriguing you
58:45
Speaker 1: just watched last year like a like a prospect it's
58:48
Speaker 1: hard to take away like this guy is gonna be
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Speaker 1: this but there's a lot to work with there. You
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Speaker 1: draft tit in the first round. But he's one of
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Speaker 1: my favorites in the NFL. I'm a huge fan. I'm
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Speaker 1: rooting for him. But like the thing about football, it's
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Speaker 1: like either winner you don't you know, So it's like
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Speaker 1: you'd be a great guy. People are rooting for you.
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Speaker 1: Some guy's easy to root against, Like this guy's is
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Speaker 1: a phony. This guy's just a dick. It's like, how
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Speaker 1: many people to just watch football? If you went Robert Sali,
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Speaker 1: Like I like that guy. I feel like he would
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Speaker 1: get universally, like from just fans of the Jags to
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Speaker 1: the Seattle to Cowboys. He just went around the league
59:27
Speaker 1: to just fans that watch football, Like, what do you
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Speaker 1: think were Robert Sali? I like that guy. I like
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Speaker 1: that ball guy. I'm a fan, so I think people
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Speaker 1: are gonna be rooting for him. He gets to kind
59:36
Speaker 1: of be under the radar, just to Pollar opposite for
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Speaker 1: him and day Ball going from the New York kind
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Speaker 1: of fish bowl of the Jets and the Giants to
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Speaker 1: the Titans. Let's be real, he's in college football country.
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Speaker 1: The biggest team in that state is the Tennessee Volunteers,
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Speaker 1: not the Tennessee Titans. But if you win in the NFL,
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Speaker 1: everyone cares. It's like the Saints. They're not the biggest
59:56
Speaker 1: team in their own state LSU is, but if you
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Speaker 1: do John Payton and Drew Brees, did, you become a
1:00:02
Speaker 1: power because they love football. So I'm room for solid
1:00:06
Speaker 1: My expectations this year relatively low, but I think over
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Speaker 1: the course of the next couple of years, I just
1:00:12
Speaker 1: don't see a reason why he can't kind of just
1:00:17
Speaker 1: become one of the coaches. Like again, he's in the
1:00:21
Speaker 1: vein of the Harbaughs, Campbell, Vrabel, that's kind of got
1:00:25
Speaker 1: to be a style. So he just has to figure
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Speaker 1: out whatever they do like and makes them successful. He
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Speaker 1: has all those qualities. The volume