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Epstein Investigations Abroad Move Forward as U.S. Accountability Freezes (Part 2) · The Epstein Chronicles

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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
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where we left off with the CNN article about the
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roadblocks slowing down a reckoning when it comes to Epstein
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in the United States. And this article was authored by
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Stephen Collinson. It was another stunning day of fallout in
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the Epstein sagon Monday, Maxwell was piped in from her
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detention facility in Texas to provide testimony to a House
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committee investigating the scandal. But she invoked the Fifth Amendment
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to avoid self incrimination, as is her constitutional right. Look,
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there's no doubt that she has a right to plead
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the Fifth and honestly, she's smart to do so. Does
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anyone really think that anything she says is not going
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to incriminate her as well? And remember, Glenn Maxwell's already
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cooked as far as witnesses go because of her perjury.
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She's an known and when you're a known liar, well, folks,
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I know it's breaking news, but people don't believe you,
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especially jury's And that's why there was never any chance
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whatsoever that Clayn Maxwell was ever going to offer anything
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up as far as that deposition. Her goal is to
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get out of prison, not add more time. But her
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lawyer made a stunning proposal. Miss Maxwell's prepared to speak
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fully and honestly if granted clemency by President Trump. Attorney
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David Oscar Marcus said in a statement during the deposition,
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which he later posted on x YO. That is just crazy.
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So we're just gonna put it out there for everybody
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to see that we got some quid pro quo going on?
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Is that what led to Glenn Maxwell being given those
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cushy ass circumstances in the first place. Yo, I got questions,
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and unfortunately all the answers that are coming back to
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me are not valid. There is no excuse for anything
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like this to even take place. Glenne Maxwell shouldn't even
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be where she is now. She's trying to run the
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table once again, talking about do this for me and
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I'll do that for you. Classic quid pro quo. This
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is a crazy ass statement, and the fact that they're
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so brazen about it makes me wonder what they've been promised.
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Only she can provide the complete truth, Marcus continued. Some
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may not like what they hear, but the truth matters.
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For example, both President Trump and President Clinton are innocent
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of any wrongdoing. So Glenn Maxwell knows exactly what everybody did,
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even when she claims she was no longer there. That's interesting.
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That's a hell of his skill Glenn Maxwell has. Does
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that come with being a bipedal serpent? Or is that
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something she picked up later on down the road. She
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just puts on that swami hat and before you know it, well,
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she knows everything, and she knows who did what? Is
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that really what you're trying to pitch to me? That's
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what you expect me to buy that? Glaine Maxwell is
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going to be the person that blows the doors off
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and gives us all the information we need. Are you stupid?
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She had her chance to do that before she ended
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up in prison. She didn't though right, She didn't enter
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into a deal, she didn't speak when it was her
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time on the stand, none of it. But now at
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this moment in history, all of a sudden, Glain Maxwell
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has something to say. Watching them try to change this
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narrative in real time is wild, and the fact that
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they think that it's going to be successful is even
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more wild. Nobody's buying what you're selling, and nobody believes
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that Kallaiine Maxwell is going to tell the truth and
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blow the doors off this and anybody telling you any
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different is lying to you. Neither the current or the
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ex president has been charged with any crime in connection
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to Epstein. Both deny having any knowledge of his offenses. Well,
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considering that article we just went through about Donald Trump's
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statements to the pom Beach Police about how everyone knew
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what Epstein was, I think Donald Trump has some explaining
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to do. Did you lie to the pom Beach Police
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or are you lying to us? Trump has struggled to
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explain his friendship with the disgraced financier and said he
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threw Epstein out of his Marra al Lago club after
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they became estranged. But the clemency play is the epitome
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of an age when attempted quid pro quoes play out
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in public in hopes of swaying a president who mocks
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ethics and exploits power granted by voters for his own ends. Well, look, man,
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that's exactly what it looks like, right. We can't deny
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the reality of what's going on and the fact that
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they're being very brazen when it comes to these kinds
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of deals. And I don't just mean with Glenn Maxwell.
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I'm talking about overall the whole situation with pardons, not
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just with Trump either, by the way, is ridiculous, and
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the president should have as much lateral ability to pardon
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some of the scumbags that they do end up pardoning. Now,
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of course that's just my opinion, but every single administration
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it's the same song and dance. Anything that Maxwell said
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in the event she was released from prison would be
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immediately regarded as not credible given her incentive to improve
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her own plight, But such as Trump's outlandish past use
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of his pardon powers that her gambit cannot be dismissed.
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It might even work. Look, I don't put anything past
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Trump or the administration. Previously, before all of this blew
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up in July, I would have said, no way, there
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is no chance that Donald Trump would make that move.
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But now who the hell knows. It's rather obvious he
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doesn't care about Burnham political capital when it comes to Epstein,
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so why should he care about commuting or pardoning Glenne Maxwell,
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even though he himself said that she was worse than
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Jeffrey Epstein. But I guess we can't let that get
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in the way of some good politics right to help
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with the people who were abused, to help with the
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people who were wronged, as long as I'm coming out
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of this without looking any worse than I do. That's
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exactly the pattern we're seeing here, and I find it disgusting.
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The atmosphere of thwarted accountability on one side of the
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Atlantic only sharpened the contrast with an extraordinary political crisis
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engulfing Britain. Prime Minister Cure Starmer battled to save his
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job amid recriminations over his decision to appoint Peter Mandelsson,
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a former friend of Epstein, as ambassador to Washington, and
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in a mind boggling move, King Charles the Third offered
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to cooperate with police in any investigation into his brother,
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the former Prince Andrew, who has had his royal titles
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stripped after he offuscated his ties to Epstein. So all
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this accountability going on across the sea, but here in America,
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we can't be bothered the whole people accountable. How dare
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you even ask? What is this a moral panic? Bitch?
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This ain't canceled culture. This is consequence culture. And it's
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time you motherfucker's wised up. Oh, well he only sent
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an email. I don't care. Okay, I don't care. And look,
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I'm not calling for people who are sending emails to
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go to prison. What I am saying, though, is there
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pieces of shit, And if you don't like that or
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it offends you, I really don't care, because I'm offended
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that these people rule over my life. That's what I'm
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offended about. So if you want to be offended that
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they're getting called out and that their reputations are in danger,
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well you, right along with the people that we're enabling
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Jeffrey Epstein, can all go get fucked. And I don't
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know how much more clear I need to be. You see, folks,
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I don't care about making friends. I don't care about
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being accepted to any big clubs. I don't care about
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any of it. I don't care about sponsors. I don't
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care about selling you dick pills, none of that shit.
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You know what I care about. I care about these
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people being held accountable, and I refuse to shut my
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mouth until that occurs. Underscoring the peril the affair opposes
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to the monarchy, the heir to the throne, Prince William
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and his wife, Princess Catherine offered empathy to Epstein's survivors
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through a spokesperson in Norway, where another royal has been
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shamed by the affair, authority, said they're investigating a former
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diplomat suspected of gross corruption. So everybody out there talking
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about Epstein not collecting information or a compromunt, you look
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fucking dumb. Now we have mandelssh we have Prince Andrew himself,
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and we have this Norway royal who are all giving
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Jeffrey Epstein confidential information? And for what reason? And do
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you think that's where it ended? Just those people? Because
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I have my doubts. This was the pattern, and this
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is what Jeffrey Epstein was trying to do. You folks
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have to understand when you get to this level, it's
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not just about money, it's about information. And the most
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important currency to these people is information because information can
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change everything, right, And that was Jeffrey Epstein's job. He
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was collecting information. He was working as a free agent,
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and he was willing to work with anyone that was
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willing to pay him for his services. And a whole
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lot of people were caught up in passing Jeffrey Epstein
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all kinds of information. And if that's not blackmail, if
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that's not compromont, I don't know what is the reputation
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of a highly respected former French culture minister was tarnished
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by his past contact with Epstein, and Poland is investigating
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whether the convicted sex offender was linked to Russian spies. Well,
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we know the Polish girls came to America. Adriana Ross
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was Polish, So there are certainly things to look at
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over in Poland and Eastern Europe as a whole, because
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that was prime hunting ground for Jeffrey Epstein and his people.
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One thousand percent Conna Marvel that the contrast between the
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UK and the US. Look at what's happening in Britain.
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You have a left government. Actually I know Kira Starmer
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I was excited at onety one. Yet I believe he
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needs to be held accountable with what's happened with Mandelssohn.
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You have the British monarchy having to answer questions. I mean,
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the King of England is putting out statements and yet
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in our country we have not had the reckoning. What
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explains the difference. It's a good question, and it comes
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down to protection, money and narratives. You see, they're turning
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the narrative on its head now, and they're trying to
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make this into a ME two type of thing. But
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what they need to understand is that during Me Too,
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this topic was largely ignored. Nobody showed up in any
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pussy hats at the Glenn Maxwell trial, and hardly anybody
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gave a damn about these survivors. So save the bullshit.
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This reckoning right here has been a long time coming.
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And we're not talking about a nineteen year old who
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was dating a seventeen year old. We're not talking about
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a twenty year old who is with a seventeen year old.
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What we are talking about is some of the richest,
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most powerful people in the world preying on young, vulnerable
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girls who came from broken homes. But I guess we
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should just ignore the circumstances, right, just ignore it all.
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So what explains the difference. It's complex, especially since none
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of the people who came into contact with Epstein apart
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from Maxwell, have been charged with crimes. That doesn't necessarily
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point to a cover up. Evidence may not lead in
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such a direction. Oh no, not at all. There is
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no crimes that were committed here, nothing, no financial crimes,
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No crimes against children, no crimes against women, no crimes
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against the rest of us. Just pack it in. We
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should all just pack it in and never talk about
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it again. But the growing push for accountability is raising
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the question of what this network of powerful and sophisticated people,
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mostly rich men, knew about Epstein's activities and crimes, especially
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once he emerged from prison in two thousand and nine
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after serving a thirteen month sentence four sex offenses against children.
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By the way, oh, was prostitution. No, kids can't consent,
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that's not prostitution. There have been some consequences for Americans
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who had links with Epstein. Former treasure secretary and former
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Harvard University president Larry Summers stepped away from public life
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after the release of embarrassing email exchanges with Epstein. Last week,
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Brad Karp resigned as chairman of Paul Weiss, one of
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the country's top corporate law firms, over his Epstein ties.
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But such downfalls in the US have been precipitated by
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reputational damage to individuals rather than government action. In Europe,
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the machinery of investigation and accountability remains independent. In the US,
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the Justice Department is run by Trump loyalists who have
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heard his calls for the country to move on. And
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that's really what it comes down to. And it's sad
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to say, and I really don't care how people try
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and twist themselves up to excuse it or explain it.
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There is no excuse and there is no explanation. It's wrong,
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it's disgusting, and it needs to end. Mandelssohn is facing
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a criminal investigation over allegations he passed secret and market
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moving government information to Epstein. It's hard to see the
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Trump DOJ launching a probe in similar circumstances. Oh yeah,
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talk about highly unlikely things that are never gonna happen. Okay,
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the Trump DOJ is not going to investigate itself. But
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keep in mind that Trump is not going to be
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in power forever, and there's gonna be a reckoning, I
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promise you. Mandelssohn is facing a criminal investigation over allegations
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he passed secret and market moving government information to Epstein.
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It's hard to see that Trump DOJ launching a probe
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in similar circumstances. Mandelssyn has apologized for his past links
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with Epstein and has resigned from the Labor Party. And
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the House of Lords. At least he had the humility
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to do that. Now, of course he was forced to
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do so. But still here we are. Results matter, right,
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And the fact that Mandelssohn is now running in disgrace,
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that's a good thing. The shockover disclosures about Epstein's behavior
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and this sprawling network of contacts is palpable in Europe.
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But why is this discuss less obvious in the United States?
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Perhaps ten years into the Trump era, the country is
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just punch drunk on scandal, or maybe the spectacle of
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Epstein's influence pedaling is in such big news in a
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nation where politics is saturated in campaign cash. You know,
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that's horrible to even read. And the fact that we're
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in a place where that could even be possible is disgusting.
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There is no amount of cash that should protect anyone
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from anything even close to what Epstein was doing. But
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yet here we are, all these years later, and that's
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still occurring. Each day brings new revelations about Epstein's extraordinary
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global network of interlocking ties between bipartisan political leaders and influencers,
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finance and business titans and international organizations, academia and billionaires.
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But amid the cacophony. People often forget what this is
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really about. Previous harm inflicted on the women who were
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trafficked by Epstein as girls and forced to perform massages
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and sex acts. Their trauma is only exasperated by the
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apparent impunity of powerful people who flocked around their abuser. Well,
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that's the most important part from a humanistic standpoint, without
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a doubt, and it's the most horrendous part. But the
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part that is going to send these people to prison,
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if anything does, it's going to be the paper trail.
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And they're agreed, and that's the reason we haven't dug
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into that. That's not something that the powers that be
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want to get into. They don't want people understanding just
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how interconnected Jeffrey Epstein was and just how much of
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his money found its way into the pockets of politicians
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that are currently in office, Hello Stacey Plaskett, Chuck Schumer.
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The story is much tidier if they can only blame
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one man, right, one sick, degenerate, And that's exactly why
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they're doing that. They don't want people to understand just
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how widespread this rot is and how this is not
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just about one man Jeffrey Epstein, but about a system
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that allowed that man to thrive. That's what this is
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really about. I think that what people also need to
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remember is that you know, the survivors of his crime
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know what happened. Epstein victim Liz Stein, wearing a sweater
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reading courage is Contagious, told CNN's Jake Tapper on Monday.
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And so when we see things coming out that, you know,
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don't parallel what our truth is, we really were taking
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notice and they should be, and so should you. We
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should all be demanding truth and accountability wherever it leads,
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not because it's politically convenient, not because the other side
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is in jeopardy, but because it's the right thing to do,
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and because our society depends on it. And I truly
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mean that, like, what kind of society do we want
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to be? Do we want to be a society that
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lets this kind of shit slide, that gives these people
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a pass because they have power and money, or do
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we want to be a society that holds people accountable
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no matter their status or their wealth. I mean, I
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know it's a novel idea, but if you commit crimes,
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you should be held accountable. And I don't care if
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you're some homeless guy on the street or the president,
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it shouldn't matter one bit, But unfortunately we know that
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it's a big ass club and none of us are invited.
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