Latest / The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast / Almost Good Advice Part VI
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- 0:00Speaker 1: This is Almost Good Advice with Ben Higgins and Ashley Ayaknetti.
- 0:05Speaker 2: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Almost Good Advice,
- 0:11Speaker 2: or as I like to call Ben Sermon, because Ben
- 0:14Speaker 2: rocks this segment. So we have a question and it
- 0:18Speaker 2: is intense. There's lots of parts to it, so stick
- 0:21Speaker 2: with me here. This is from Mikayla. The headline is
- 0:26Speaker 2: should I take the job even if my boyfriend against it?
- 0:30Speaker 2: So here's the situation. She kind of like lays this
- 0:33Speaker 2: out like it's a science a scientific experiment, So that
- 0:38Speaker 2: is her number one question she's trying to figure out.
- 0:41Speaker 2: Then she says the situation. I'm studying and writing wealth.
- 0:44Speaker 2: This makes sense my thesis right now, and I have
- 0:48Speaker 2: a job in my city and I hate it. Now
- 0:52Speaker 2: I have an offer for a job I really want
- 0:56Speaker 2: to make. I also am doing part time. I'm with
- 1:00Speaker 2: my thesis now know that I am done in three months,
- 1:05Speaker 2: and they express they want people to stay and work there.
- 1:10Speaker 2: It seems I'm trying to put things together. It seems
- 1:12Speaker 2: like she is kind of working for this place through
- 1:16Speaker 2: her thesis. She says her point to Colon, it's an
- 1:20Speaker 2: hour drive and my boyfriend is fuming and wants me
- 1:24Speaker 2: to deny the offer. These are her arguments. Number One,
- 1:29Speaker 2: it's the field she wants to work in, and that's
- 1:32Speaker 2: a chance to have a job right after she gets
- 1:34Speaker 2: her degree. It's a great point. Two I asked, and
- 1:39Speaker 2: they offer two or three home office days for their
- 1:42Speaker 2: full time employees. And if everything turns out the way,
- 1:45Speaker 2: I think I would have my foot in the field
- 1:48Speaker 2: that I want to work in, and I could still
- 1:49Speaker 2: live normally with him and could even apply for different
- 1:53Speaker 2: jobs in a year without having the fear to find nothing.
- 1:58Speaker 2: Number Three, I could sleep at my parents for a
- 2:00Speaker 2: day or two per week if the driving money is
- 2:04Speaker 2: a thing. They live in the city that the job is. Four,
- 2:09Speaker 2: it's nearly impossible to find something I want to do
- 2:12Speaker 2: in the city that I live in. Five I don't
- 2:15Speaker 2: think it's that easy to find a remote job on
- 2:18Speaker 2: the spot, especially as a junior.
- 2:21Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 2:22Speaker 2: Six, in the worst case scenario, I get my degree
- 2:25Speaker 2: and I don't find a job for months or I
- 2:27Speaker 2: have to take the next day thing. And seven I
- 2:30Speaker 2: don't think they would hire me four three months and
- 2:33Speaker 2: just kick me to the curb after I get my degree. Okay,
- 2:37Speaker 2: His arguments are One, I don't want you to drive
- 2:41Speaker 2: that much, it's too much money. Two, I don't want
- 2:45Speaker 2: you to see your parents. I want you home. Three
- 2:51Speaker 2: I can do the shitty job till I have my degree,
- 2:54Speaker 2: then apply somewhere remote, And for what if they don't
- 2:59Speaker 2: offer you the full time job after you're done writing
- 3:02Speaker 2: your thesis after the next three months. So in conclusion,
- 3:06Speaker 2: I'm so done with the discussions. It really makes me
- 3:09Speaker 2: sad that I feel like I can't do what I
- 3:11Speaker 2: wish for ps. He is working remote and refuses to
- 3:14Speaker 2: move from my job situation, so I search for jobs nearby. Ben.
- 3:20Speaker 2: In our previous episode, you're talking about about how like
- 3:24Speaker 2: you're disappointed in the men based on some of the
- 3:27Speaker 2: messages that we get. Yeah, I'm again disappointed in this man,
- 3:31Speaker 2: and it's a serious red flag that he doesn't want
- 3:35Speaker 2: her seeing his seeing her parents.
- 3:39Speaker 3: I knew that would stand out to you amongst everything.
- 3:41Speaker 2: Else, because I love going home like this.
- 3:45Speaker 1: Yeah, because as somebody, if Jared would ever say I
- 3:47Speaker 1: don't want you to go back home, you be like,
- 3:49Speaker 1: all right, this is you do.
- 3:51Speaker 2: Not find this alarming that the guy doesn't want her
- 3:53Speaker 2: to hang out with her family.
- 3:55Speaker 3: I don't think it's the most important piece of this
- 3:58Speaker 3: by any means.
- 3:58Speaker 2: Okay, well, let me also just say that I think
- 4:03Speaker 2: that he just seems super controlling and at the age
- 4:08Speaker 2: that they are right now, assuming that they're juniors in college.
- 4:13Speaker 3: If you're writing a thesis, yeah, what's a thesis?
- 4:15Speaker 2: It's not a college thing.
- 4:17Speaker 1: No, you're yeah, you're not. You're you're probably your masters.
- 4:21Speaker 1: You're a master's though. Yeah, you're in a master's program.
- 4:25Speaker 1: So you're three. You know, it's a four year master's
- 4:28Speaker 1: program of some sorts. M Perhaps let's assume that it's
- 4:33Speaker 1: It makes more I mean, it would make more sense
- 4:35Speaker 1: given where they're at in their life what they're talking about,
- 4:38Speaker 1: that he's working a job, that she's writing a thesis
- 4:41Speaker 1: and working, that they're not doing their undergrad right now.
- 4:46Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, I still feel like he sounds like he's
- 4:51Speaker 2: controlling and his arguments aren't strong enough too, in my opinion,
- 4:57Speaker 2: have her not take it, because if this is like
- 4:59Speaker 2: an is that you're having currently while you're young and
- 5:02Speaker 2: in school, I just don't know. He just sounds like
- 5:07Speaker 2: somebody that I would be worried about you making like
- 5:11Speaker 2: big decisions within the future. If this is really rattling
- 5:14Speaker 2: him so much that used to drive an hour twice
- 5:17Speaker 2: a week.
- 5:19Speaker 3: Yeah, so what's your advice.
- 5:21Speaker 2: I think my advice is just like, to do you, girl?
- 5:24Speaker 2: You just make your decision, like you make the decision
- 5:28Speaker 2: if they're not married.
- 5:30Speaker 3: I know, But nowhere here is she referencing that she
- 5:32Speaker 3: doesn't want to be with him.
- 5:33Speaker 2: I'm not saying break up. I'm just saying, make the
- 5:35Speaker 2: decision for your career, because right now you should probably
- 5:38Speaker 2: be putting yourself first.
- 5:39Speaker 1: Okay, so your advice is you're not married, you might
- 5:44Speaker 1: want to be with this dude, but just do it
- 5:46Speaker 1: and make him figure it out.
- 5:49Speaker 2: I think he should be supportive of her career right now.
- 5:51Speaker 2: It's not like she's moving across country. She's really like
- 5:55Speaker 2: so many people have an hour long commute, Dailey, and
- 5:58Speaker 2: if she only has to do it week, I don't
- 6:00Speaker 2: really know what the situation is here.
- 6:02Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think I think it's very obvious.
- 6:05Speaker 1: Right what you just said is that you know he's
- 6:10Speaker 1: being controlling. But the advice would be, hey, you need
- 6:14Speaker 1: to do this.
- 6:14Speaker 3: This is that.
- 6:15Speaker 1: Important to your future and to what you want that
- 6:20Speaker 1: you need to make the decision to take this job
- 6:21Speaker 1: and make him again figure it out, handle it, see
- 6:26Speaker 1: how you know, just get behind you and support you.
- 6:29Speaker 3: Like you she just needs to go that.
- 6:31Speaker 1: Your advice is just go take it, because you've told
- 6:34Speaker 1: him that you want to and that you're not married,
- 6:36Speaker 1: and if he doesn't like it, then you can take
- 6:38Speaker 1: the next best steps.
- 6:39Speaker 3: But right now, go take the job. That's your advice.
- 6:41Speaker 2: I think so okay, But the way he word it
- 6:45Speaker 2: to me makes it feel like I'm missing something. I
- 6:48Speaker 2: don't think you should be talking it out more.
- 6:50Speaker 1: No, I really don't think you are okay. Only you're
- 6:52Speaker 1: missing a thing. I think you your spot. I mean, right,
- 6:56Speaker 1: I'm not the keep her of the truce. I don't
- 6:58Speaker 1: know if my advice yeah, I mean I don't know
- 7:04Speaker 1: if I have the right advice or the wrong advice.
- 7:06Speaker 1: I have no idea, but I'm listening to you, and
- 7:08Speaker 1: I'm like, I think that's what I would do as well,
- 7:11Speaker 1: is take the job.
- 7:13Speaker 2: She seems passionate about the job and her field. It's
- 7:16Speaker 2: not even like she's in a situation where she's like, oh,
- 7:19Speaker 2: you know, maybe I like it, maybe I won't. It
- 7:21Speaker 2: seems like she really wants to do it.
- 7:23Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's very obvious she wants to do right.
- 7:25Speaker 1: She just wrote us a whole email that's bull appointed
- 7:28Speaker 1: with seven different arguments on why she wants this job
- 7:32Speaker 1: and his arguments why she shouldn't have this job. She
- 7:35Speaker 1: obviously wants this job. I don't love a few things
- 7:40Speaker 1: here that just kind of stick out to me. One
- 7:42Speaker 1: is kind of how she ended it, And she ended
- 7:47Speaker 1: it with her last sent and said, so I searched
- 7:49Speaker 1: for jobs nearby that feels like settling right and being
- 7:54Speaker 1: married and go kind of dating, you know, in life,
- 7:57Speaker 1: I will agree with most people's opinion is never settle.
- 8:02Speaker 1: And I think that oftentimes is kind of a word
- 8:04Speaker 1: thrown out there and you don't really know what that means,
- 8:06Speaker 1: because sometimes settling can mean never settle for anybody that's
- 8:10Speaker 1: not perfect for you, and that's just never going to exist.
- 8:14Speaker 3: Right.
- 8:14Speaker 1: We're humans, we all have our problems. You're gonna have
- 8:17Speaker 1: to learn to love the inefficiencies and the things about
- 8:25Speaker 1: your partner. You'll learn to love the stuff that maybe
- 8:28Speaker 1: you didn't know you could learn to love. Like that's
- 8:30Speaker 1: just so settling is a thing. Sometimes it's not settling
- 8:33Speaker 1: for anybody less than what you hope for and a partner.
- 8:36Speaker 1: But you are compromising and you're committing to somebody to
- 8:39Speaker 1: love them through sickness and in health, and I don't
- 8:43Speaker 1: love those settling when it comes to things that are controllable.
- 8:48Speaker 1: So that's one part, right. My wife is the biggest
- 8:51Speaker 1: supporter of me. It is one of the coolest things
- 8:55Speaker 1: when you get into a relationship with somebody, and I
- 9:00Speaker 1: believe that I can do far greater things today than
- 9:03Speaker 1: I could have six years ago before her. I can
- 9:06Speaker 1: do far greater things because she's a supporter of me.
- 9:09Speaker 1: She's on my team, she's got my back, she pushes me,
- 9:13Speaker 1: she asks me the questions that matter. She makes me
- 9:16Speaker 1: consider things and reconsider things, and as a result, I
- 9:19Speaker 1: believe I'm a better man today than I was six
- 9:21Speaker 1: years ago because of her. I don't want to speak
- 9:24Speaker 1: for Jessica here, but I would hope that she would
- 9:26Speaker 1: also say, in her life a stressor is not my
- 9:30Speaker 1: commitment to seeing her pursue her dreams personally, whatever those
- 9:34Speaker 1: may be, spiritually, emotionally, physically, career wise, that she knows
- 9:38Speaker 1: that whatever she's pursuing, if I disagree with those pursuits,
- 9:43Speaker 1: I'll ask some questions. But if I know that her
- 9:45Speaker 1: heart's in the right place and we come to you
- 9:48Speaker 1: understanding why she's dreaming of the things she's dreaming of,
- 9:51Speaker 1: that you know what, I'll get my rally cap on
- 9:54Speaker 1: and let's go like I'll be her biggest fan. And
- 9:57Speaker 1: I think that's so valuable in a relationship, especially when
- 10:00Speaker 1: you're young. You know you don't have a family yet,
- 10:03Speaker 1: you don't have those responsibilities that are keeping you tied
- 10:07Speaker 1: down maybe to a household, right the both of you being.
- 10:10Speaker 3: Tied down to this household.
- 10:12Speaker 1: So I'd say, right now in your life, one of
- 10:14Speaker 1: the healthiest suggestions I could give is to explore and
- 10:18Speaker 1: to take offers of jobs and to take some risks,
- 10:22Speaker 1: and to probably fail a few times and try again
- 10:24Speaker 1: a few times, but just go out there, and if
- 10:28Speaker 1: you found a job in a field that you care
- 10:30Speaker 1: about and a job that feels like a dream job
- 10:32Speaker 1: to you already at this point in your life, that
- 10:35Speaker 1: is an opportunity not to pass up. And if he
- 10:38Speaker 1: had some other arguments that were maybe a little more understanding,
- 10:45Speaker 1: and maybe they had some complexities that that would make
- 10:48Speaker 1: us go, yeah, that makes sense, then I would say, yes,
- 10:50Speaker 1: sit down with your partner and talk this through and
- 10:52Speaker 1: see if you can both come to a solution here.
- 10:54Speaker 1: But all these arguments that he mentioned are very selfish,
- 10:58Speaker 1: Like they're completely selfish on his part. And if he's
- 11:00Speaker 1: coming at this perspective of himself and not what's best
- 11:04Speaker 1: for you, that's not somebody that right now you need
- 11:07Speaker 1: to be making these big life decisions for. So I
- 11:09Speaker 1: agree with Ashley. Take the job. Tell him you're going
- 11:13Speaker 1: to take it. Don't just like not, you know, show
- 11:16Speaker 1: up one day and be like, yeah, I took that job,
- 11:18Speaker 1: and now I tell them'm going to take it. But
- 11:20Speaker 1: tell them I'm going to take it because you dream
- 11:21Speaker 1: of this job. This is your what you imagined your
- 11:25Speaker 1: perfect job being. This is not an opportunity you want
- 11:28Speaker 1: to pass up on at this point, and that he
- 11:30Speaker 1: is going to have to understand that this is something
- 11:34Speaker 1: that you are dreaming of and see how responds. And
- 11:38Speaker 1: if he doesn't respond, well, I think that is pointing
- 11:40Speaker 1: then to a bigger question that maybe you'll write back
- 11:42Speaker 1: to us one day. I don't even want to tell
- 11:44Speaker 1: you how to handle that, because I don't think it's
- 11:45Speaker 1: fair to get that even in your head. But I
- 11:50Speaker 1: agree with Ashley, take the job.
- 11:51Speaker 3: Go do it.
- 11:52Speaker 2: And I do want to clarify because you brought it up.
- 11:55Speaker 2: I agree with you wholeheartedly that like, at this stage
- 11:58Speaker 2: in your life you should be like complete champions of
- 12:03Speaker 2: doing whatever the other one wants career wise. But then like, yeah,
- 12:08Speaker 2: when you're married and you have kids, that's going to
- 12:10Speaker 2: be more of a compromise when you have to like
- 12:12Speaker 2: make family moves and like talk about but they're not
- 12:15Speaker 2: even there the amount of time you're investing in your family.
- 12:17Speaker 1: Yeah, yeahct that they're not there yet. I mean, that's
- 12:20Speaker 1: that's not a thing they need to even really be considering.
- 12:23Speaker 1: When your boyfriend girlfriend like run your races. I mean,
- 12:26Speaker 1: it's you know, this is one of the reasons why
- 12:29Speaker 1: I think the subject of should we live together or
- 12:32Speaker 1: not is one that's an interesting subject. I think one
- 12:34Speaker 1: of the unhealthy things about living together is these situations
- 12:37Speaker 1: that we're speaking of right now. If you weren't living together,
- 12:42Speaker 1: then he has no say really, I know That's what I.
- 12:46Speaker 2: Was thinking that too. It was like, Okay, so he
- 12:49Speaker 2: is talking about the gas money to get an hour
- 12:53Speaker 2: away twice a week, and like, are you guys doing
- 12:55Speaker 2: that yet? Like, are we is it your money, his money,
- 12:59Speaker 2: or like you combined it. Even because you're living together,
- 13:03Speaker 2: it is getting a little Harry.
- 13:05Speaker 1: Yeah, you've definitely you've tied your life together. It sounds
- 13:10Speaker 1: like it some way. And I think that would be
- 13:11Speaker 1: one of the reasons. And there's there's reasons on both
- 13:14Speaker 1: sides that we could speak to at some point. But
- 13:16Speaker 1: one of the reasons why living together at this point
- 13:20Speaker 1: is is complex because you you're you're you are allowing
- 13:24Speaker 1: the space for these decisions to be made together. And uh,
- 13:28Speaker 1: And I don't know if your commitment level is to
- 13:30Speaker 1: that point where that where you get to have a say, really, uh,
- 13:34Speaker 1: and what the other person is doing?
- 13:47Speaker 2: All right, Corn, next caller THAT'X writer is James. The
- 13:53Speaker 2: big question is family or my own desires. My family
- 13:57Speaker 2: is pretty religious, and I've been struggling with a certain
- 14:00Speaker 2: desire that I've had since I was very young. And
- 14:04Speaker 2: all I want to ask is if it's worth displeasing
- 14:07Speaker 2: them and our belief system for this. Should I leave
- 14:12Speaker 2: home and run away so I can chase my desires
- 14:15Speaker 2: or should I just stay focused on what I'm doing
- 14:17Speaker 2: right now? Please give your thoughts and opinions.
- 14:21Speaker 1: Okay, so again vague, vague, vague.
- 14:26Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's hard for us to give advice with
- 14:29Speaker 2: something this vague, because again we don't know.
- 14:33Speaker 1: So I think we could probably simplest down to the
- 14:36Speaker 1: first question, family or my own desires. Do I follow
- 14:43Speaker 1: the expected hopes and dreams of my family or do
- 14:47Speaker 1: I pursue things for myself would probably be how you
- 14:51Speaker 1: could simplify this question. There is an interesting caveat where
- 14:56Speaker 1: he adds that his family's pretty religious, so this sounds
- 15:00Speaker 1: like whatever he is desiring is not going to fall
- 15:04Speaker 1: in line with the view of what is morally right
- 15:09Speaker 1: and wrong, and so he is going to cause conflict.
- 15:14Speaker 1: James believes in their life, Ashley, take it away.
- 15:19Speaker 2: You can't hide from this your whole life. You're not
- 15:23Speaker 2: going to live a happy, healthy life if you keep
- 15:25Speaker 2: this in in a way from your family. I would
- 15:28Speaker 2: just hope that at some point in at some point
- 15:31Speaker 2: it'd hopefully be soon, that your family would learn to
- 15:34Speaker 2: accept it and all of you. But I certainly don't
- 15:38Speaker 2: want you to abandon your family. I think it's just
- 15:41Speaker 2: something that you're going to have to like kind of
- 15:44Speaker 2: talk to and like I think hopefully you can just
- 15:47Speaker 2: have a conversation with them and not have to do
- 15:50Speaker 2: anything behind their back. I feel like they'll be more
- 15:54Speaker 2: mad about the lies.
- 15:55Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a question so many people are asking
- 15:58Speaker 1: right now, right, I mean, it's I think the when
- 16:03Speaker 1: I spoke in Belmont, North Carolina, at that church here
- 16:09Speaker 1: last week, one of the quotes that I like to
- 16:11Speaker 1: say these days is I hope the church can be
- 16:15Speaker 1: known more for what it's for than what it's against.
- 16:18Speaker 1: And right now it feels like the church is known
- 16:21Speaker 1: for what it's against. And that saddens me because I
- 16:24Speaker 1: don't believe as followers of Jesus, that Jesus would have
- 16:30Speaker 1: been known more for what he was against. I think
- 16:33Speaker 1: he was for people. He's for the outsider. He's for
- 16:38Speaker 1: the preeople hurting. He sat with people who were, by
- 16:45Speaker 1: society's standards, considered less than. He dined with them, he
- 16:50Speaker 1: washed their feet, he brought them up, he listened to them,
- 16:53Speaker 1: he heard their stories, he walked alongside of them. And
- 16:58Speaker 1: I don't know where we've confused this notion that we
- 17:06Speaker 1: should be really putting our stakes in the ground, and
- 17:09Speaker 1: I say we, as like a church community to push
- 17:12Speaker 1: people aside. I think the big question here really is
- 17:16Speaker 1: the church or religious people, is a family of people
- 17:21Speaker 1: of faith? Seems like the way I'd like to phrase that,
- 17:25Speaker 1: should they be the oasis in the desert or the
- 17:27Speaker 1: desert in the oasis? Like, should you feel safe and
- 17:30Speaker 1: loved and cared for by them? Or should they be
- 17:35Speaker 1: the ones to push you out? I don't know, maybe
- 17:37Speaker 1: true what to do, what to try to teach you
- 17:38Speaker 1: a lesson or to tell you they're against you? And
- 17:41Speaker 1: I've always believed, based on my faith tradition, that the
- 17:44Speaker 1: family is a unit that should make you feel safe,
- 17:48Speaker 1: that it is your oasis in the desert. It is
- 17:51Speaker 1: as the world tells you you're this, and that they'll
- 17:54Speaker 1: tell you the opposit. They'll tell you that you're loved
- 17:56Speaker 1: and you're cared for and that they believe in you.
- 18:00Speaker 1: And so I'm hoping, James, that's the dynamic you have
- 18:03Speaker 1: in your family.
- 18:04Speaker 3: I hope that for you.
- 18:09Speaker 1: I don't necessarily feel capable of speaking to your question
- 18:14Speaker 1: of should you follow your own desires? I don't think
- 18:18Speaker 1: that is actually valuable here. What I will say is
- 18:22Speaker 1: that I hope that you find a community and that
- 18:26Speaker 1: you find love and that you find support in who
- 18:32Speaker 1: you are as a human and who you really are
- 18:36Speaker 1: as a human that you find because I don't know
- 18:39Speaker 1: exactly what you're speaking to here, and I think it
- 18:41Speaker 1: would be unhealthy for us to assume and then also
- 18:45Speaker 1: to give advice based on that. But what I will
- 18:48Speaker 1: say is that you're if your desires for whatever you're wanting,
- 18:53Speaker 1: bring a light to you, bring a joy to you,
- 18:56Speaker 1: bring a fulfillment to you, bring a health to you
- 18:59Speaker 1: and those around you, then I'd hope you'd have the
- 19:01Speaker 1: opportunity to speak to your family. I hope your family
- 19:04Speaker 1: is a place where you feel loved, welcomed, heard, understood,
- 19:08Speaker 1: listened to, and that they desire to know you fully
- 19:14Speaker 1: and to know you well and to care for you.
- 19:17Speaker 1: However that care needs to be given, So that would
- 19:20Speaker 1: be my advice is hopefully it's a safe place.
- 19:23Speaker 3: If it's not.
- 19:24Speaker 1: I've never in my life believed or asked or wanted
- 19:29Speaker 1: somebody to try to live up to the expectations of
- 19:34Speaker 1: others just to try to please them. I don't think
- 19:38Speaker 1: that is a path to a life of impact.
- 19:43Speaker 2: Dude. I'm like, so funny, it's so funny. You have
- 19:47Speaker 2: like the term life of impact, and I'm like I'm
- 19:50Speaker 2: not sure you would live your happiest healthy is life.
- 19:56Speaker 1: Say you're saying the same thing. You're well, this has
- 20:00Speaker 1: been another almost good advice. We want to hear from you,
- 20:04Speaker 1: We want to talk with you, we want to walk
- 20:07Speaker 1: through your questions with you. We can't promise wisdom, we
- 20:10Speaker 1: can't promise answers, but we can promise is consideration. And
- 20:15Speaker 1: we're so glad that we get to do this with
- 20:17Speaker 1: our listeners. It really does feel like it's bringing our
- 20:20Speaker 1: listeners into our lives and hopefully vice versa. The responses
- 20:25Speaker 1: have been incredible, The emails are flowing in. It has
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- 20:39Speaker 1: So it's great, but we have enjoyed it, and so
- 20:43Speaker 1: until next time, I've been Ben, I've been Ashley.
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