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LNC Experiences Keith Urban Decay · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Larger Drunk Lighter Podcast, the
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  Speaker 1: podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in the
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  Speaker 1: world around us and how very excited we are about them.
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  Speaker 1: I'm aerial cast in and with me as always is
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  Speaker 1: the magnificent Jonathan Strickland.
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  Speaker 2: And unlike last week, this is a real episode, So
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  Speaker 2: get ready for a three hour barn burner war.
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  Speaker 1: The last episode ended up I don't think we can
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  Speaker 1: be I mean, I can be short winded by myself,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't know that we can be short winded together.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I can't be. Like if I'm just
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  Speaker 2: talking to myself in the mirror, I go on too long.
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  Speaker 2: So that's why our brief announcement episode ended up being
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  Speaker 2: half an hour long. And this one, this one's a
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  Speaker 2: full boat, y'all. I actually went in and deleted a
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  Speaker 2: lot of stuff because we had stories in here from
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  Speaker 2: the past two weeks. But we chatted a little bit
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  Speaker 2: about some of them last week, and some of them
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  Speaker 2: I just feel are kind of too stale, so I
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  Speaker 2: took them out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but.
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  Speaker 2: Even then they'll probably resurface.
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  Speaker 1: But here's the thing, though, I'm I am glad for
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  Speaker 1: all this news because one of the things that's going
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  Speaker 1: around in the and we'll talk a little bit about
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  Speaker 1: this in like some of the thirty seconds or less
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  Speaker 1: kind of stuff, one of the things that's going on
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  Speaker 1: around in the world of like the industry side of things,
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  Speaker 1: is that I hear a lot of like streaming and
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  Speaker 1: television and movies they're all in danger, and like vertical
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  Speaker 1: shorts and things are the way it's going. And that's
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  Speaker 1: sad to me because a lot of vertical shorts out
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  Speaker 1: there are very like cheesy soap opera, which is just
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  Speaker 1: not my thing. But it's nice to see that there
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  Speaker 1: is still a lot of like traditional and modern traditional
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  Speaker 1: media being made and in the works, because I really
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  Speaker 1: do like having something that I can sync my teeth
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  Speaker 1: into and spend some time with.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think all that news about the vertical short
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  Speaker 2: form stuff is just daggers in the heart for the
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  Speaker 2: folks behind Quibi.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Quibby came out five years too early and during
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  Speaker 2: a pandemic when nobody was using their phones.
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  Speaker 1: There's I mean, and there's a there's a place for
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  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, right, Like, I do feel like
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  Speaker 1: there needs to be a moderation between scrolling and watching
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  Speaker 1: like it's just a different it works different parts.
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  Speaker 2: Of your can't. I can't do the scrolling thing. If
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  Speaker 2: I if I start doing the scrolling thing, I fall
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  Speaker 2: into the trap, the same trap, the trap that everyone
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  Speaker 2: falls into. I mean, that's what it's built upon. It's
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  Speaker 2: predicated upon this going to the next you know, bite
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  Speaker 2: sized piece of content that doesn't really you know. Often
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  Speaker 2: it can be misleading, it can be poorly researched, it
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  Speaker 2: could be poorly performed. But because it's sure, you can
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  Speaker 2: just go to the next one. And meanwhile, you're not
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  Speaker 2: really diving into anything truly meaningful. You might find a
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  Speaker 2: clip or two that kind of resonates with you, but
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  Speaker 2: that's the exception rather than the rule, and your brain
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  Speaker 2: doesn't care. Just like, go to the next one, go
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  Speaker 2: to the next one, and I I fall into that
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  Speaker 2: trap still, but usually within two or three I will
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  Speaker 2: pull myself out of it and say no, no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: Let's do something else. Let's take a walk, read a book,
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  Speaker 2: watch a movie, watch a TV show, you know, something else,
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  Speaker 2: rather than just doing the video equivalent of doom scrolling.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I do I do it. I usually
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  Speaker 1: set myself like a timer. That's good a couple of
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  Speaker 1: minutes and then you have to get off. And I
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  Speaker 1: really prefer, honestly, like the short form stuff that leads
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  Speaker 1: me to something else. That's how I found After Midnight.
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  Speaker 1: That's how I found drop Out. Like I was, I
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  Speaker 1: had watched like some college humor back in like when
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  Speaker 1: it was on YouTube pre pandemic, but I had no
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  Speaker 1: idea about drop Out until I start. I had seen
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  Speaker 1: clips of a court and Fay, of a court of
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  Speaker 1: Fay and flowers, and I'm so glad it led me there,
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  Speaker 1: but it was a little something to bring me to
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  Speaker 1: something bigger.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen a few things where it's been a
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  Speaker 2: clip from like some sort of action movie that I
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  Speaker 2: otherwise had never heard of, and I'm like, ooh, that
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  Speaker 2: action sequence looks interesting, let me see what this is,
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  Speaker 2: and then invariably, like ninety nine times out of one hundred,
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  Speaker 2: it turns out to be a movie that everyone hated.
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  Speaker 2: And that's literally the one moment in the movie that
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  Speaker 2: people thought was okay. And I'm like, well, I guess
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  Speaker 2: if I'm gonna have to watch, like if I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to see something from a terrible movie. At least it's
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  Speaker 2: the best part of the terrible movie. But yeah, otherwise, like,
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  Speaker 2: and I only fall into this on YouTube because I
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  Speaker 2: don't have Instagram or TikTok or any of those others.
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  Speaker 2: So it's just when I'm on YouTube, And I'll tell
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  Speaker 2: you what always pulls me in, Ariel, Like almost every
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  Speaker 2: single time, it'll be a cute animal video. That's what
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  Speaker 2: pulls me in. And then I'll scroll down and then
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  Speaker 2: next thing you know, it's Jackie Chan kicking someone in
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  Speaker 2: the face.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's Jackie. Can't Chan is like a cute.
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  Speaker 2: Animal, right, Like, yeah, a cue in the face.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's an animal, like he's a badass,
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  Speaker 1: but you know he's just he's got such charisma, yes
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  Speaker 1: he does, but uh but yeah, no, I I like
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  Speaker 1: cute animal videos, although I don't like the ones where
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  Speaker 1: it's someone rescuing an animal. I hate those. And Josh
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  Speaker 1: Johnson his only I went to stand up this past year,
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  Speaker 1: and that is only solidified for.
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  Speaker 2: Me because because Ariel, as we all knowed, once, those
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  Speaker 2: animals to continue to suffer.
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  Speaker 1: So no, just exact opposite.
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  Speaker 2: I just that's like I sometimes I sometimes will start
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  Speaker 2: those videos, but I will immediately go halfway in, so
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  Speaker 2: it's past the the traumatic part and it's just the
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  Speaker 2: animal discovering it's new life, and that that I enjoyed.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I I too. I don't wanna like I
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  Speaker 2: can a appreciate the fact that an animal came from
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  Speaker 2: bad circumstances, whether that was like you know, a breeding
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  Speaker 2: situation or abandoned or injured or sick or whatever it
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  Speaker 2: may be. But I can skip past those early parts
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  Speaker 2: where like the animals clearly in the suffering stage and
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  Speaker 2: just get to the part where it's healing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then if like you're Josh Johnson did it
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  Speaker 1: a whole stand up thing about it. I think there's
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  Speaker 1: a video of it as well, but he did it
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  Speaker 1: on the tour I saw where it's like you rescue
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  Speaker 1: this wild animal and then it's like this is my
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  Speaker 1: new home and I'm meeting Jarrito's and then you let
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  Speaker 1: it out into the wild and then like there's a
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  Speaker 1: video of a family like rescuing a squirrel and then
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  Speaker 1: they let it out into the wild and a hawk
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  Speaker 1: gets it, and it's like I hate that.
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  Speaker 2: No, No, I'm thinking more of like pet rescue. If
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  Speaker 2: it's animal. If it's animal rescue stuff, then I only
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  Speaker 2: will watch ones from like actual accredited like animal rehab groups.
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  Speaker 2: I don't watch any of those. You know, I found
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  Speaker 2: the bird that fell out, and I'm sure this bird
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  Speaker 2: will be just fine. I like, no, that bird is
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  Speaker 2: imprinted on you. That bird is not fine. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that kind of thing like I don't watch those.
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  Speaker 1: I like wildlife rehab. I like because they're doing it right,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And then I like other animal like other
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  Speaker 1: cute animal videos for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like ones of like cats and dogs being silly.
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  Speaker 2: I like the cats and dogs being Now. The problem
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  Speaker 2: is that occasionally in those shorts, whoever puts those shorts together,
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  Speaker 2: we'll sometimes put one in there where a cat or
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  Speaker 2: dog will suffer a whoopsie, and it may be a
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  Speaker 2: whoopsie that could have been quite painful. And I hate that. No,
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  Speaker 2: just the silly stuff, not like oh see this cat
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  Speaker 2: accidentally fell off the roof of a house. No, so
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  Speaker 2: like the a.
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  Speaker 1: Wall sail cat right, yeah, which I laugh at every
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  Speaker 1: time now, but I had to first make sure that
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  Speaker 1: cat was okay before I could laugh at that video.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's let's move away from Ariel's desire for animal
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  Speaker 2: Abuse and go on to our question for this episode,
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  Speaker 2: which is what are you excited for in twenty twenty six?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my goodness, I'm excited for task Master season twenty one.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, which we will mention also in thirty seconds or less.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I'm excited for the new season of The Pit,
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  Speaker 1: which just dropped yesterday but I didn't get a chance
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  Speaker 1: to start it and has already been renewed for season three.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm I'm like, there's a bunch of stuff
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  Speaker 1: we're going to talk about today that I am excited for,
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  Speaker 1: so like, good luck, have fun, don't die, because that
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  Speaker 1: just feels interesting and different.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, nothing that's like forefront of my brain other than
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  Speaker 1: stuff that I've been watching that I'm like, Oh, I
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  Speaker 1: need another season of this for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of the stuff that I'm craving. I
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  Speaker 2: know we're not gonna get this year, right, Like I
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  Speaker 2: want another season of Severance, but I bet that's not
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  Speaker 2: going to come out till next year, and Plural of Us,
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  Speaker 2: which we know won't come out for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah. Emma Emma Sprinkle, who runs Famble Right, she
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  Speaker 1: was at the Critic Choice Awards and she talked to both.
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  Speaker 1: All of a sudden, their names are escaping me. But
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  Speaker 1: the two lead actresses from flur of Us neither of
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  Speaker 1: them knew when it was releasing either based.
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  Speaker 2: Off her posts, So well, yeah, and I trust Emma.
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  Speaker 2: I know Emma. She's good people, She works hard. I
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  Speaker 2: got to hang out with her at south By Southwest
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  Speaker 2: one year and that was a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 1: She's really awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Yea, she does. She's really good at what she does
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  Speaker 2: and has been for like a decade. So uh yeah, okay,
• 9:46
  Speaker 2: well those are those are good things. Among the things
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  Speaker 2: I'm excited for, I'm excited to see Supergirl. I think, yes,
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  Speaker 2: I think the trailer for Supergirl looks really interesting. James
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  Speaker 2: Gunn is good at handling characters who are in some
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  Speaker 2: way broken and Superman. You kind of see Superman get
• 10:05
  Speaker 2: a little broken in Superman, but when it starts out
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  Speaker 2: like he's in a really solid place, Supergirl is not.
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  Speaker 2: She is a mess from the get go, which you
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  Speaker 2: know if you saw at the end of Superman spider
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  Speaker 2: Man Brand New Day. I'm excited for because I really
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  Speaker 2: want to see what they do considering the end of
• 10:24
  Speaker 2: the last spider Man movie, like how do they move forward?
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: Do they change any of that? Like they made a
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: pretty big swing in the last Spider Man movie, which
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  Speaker 2: makes me wonder, like are those things going to stay put?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Did you hear about I have some theories, but
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: only because of internet rumors that proved to be true.
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: Did you hear about the whole thing about Sadie Sink,
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: who played Max on Stranger Things? I heard being a
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  Speaker 1: role based on internet speculation? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I heard that fans were speculating that she would be
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  Speaker 2: offered a part, and then two days later she got
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  Speaker 2: the call. I've also seen headlines though I haven't clicked
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  Speaker 2: through to them about like who the supposed villain for
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  Speaker 2: the movie is going to be, like which character it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be, Things like the black Spider Suit potentially
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  Speaker 2: making an appearance, which is interesting considering that there was
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  Speaker 2: also the Venom films, which makes me wonder, are they
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  Speaker 2: going to make the black suit and Venom? Is that
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  Speaker 2: going to be a connection or No? Probably not, so
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  Speaker 2: it would just be a black suit. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, I don't know either. I liked the
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  Speaker 1: I've said this before, I liked the first Venom movie,
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  Speaker 1: and then I just haven't watched any of the rest.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't. I never got into it. I was
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  Speaker 2: so disenchanted with Sony launching a Spider Man spin off
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  Speaker 2: franchise Universe that doesn't have Spider Man in it, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't I get that, spid you have
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  Speaker 2: to kind of share with Disney slash Marvel, But is
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  Speaker 2: so weird to see movies that have second tier Spider
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  Speaker 2: Man characters carrying a film in a universe where Spider
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  Speaker 2: Man is at most coyly acknowledged but never referenced.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it is definitely a tall order. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it's impossible, but it is a mountain to climb.
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  Speaker 1: And I feel like the worst part about that for me,
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  Speaker 1: right is that if everything had been Venom level, it
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  Speaker 1: would have been a woe hume But okay, universe.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Venom was the high point.
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  Speaker 1: Venom was the high point. And again I enjoyed it. It
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  Speaker 1: was funny. It was not a great movie. It was
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  Speaker 1: a fun movie. I put it along with like the
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  Speaker 1: Ninja Turtle, the Michael Bay Ninja Turtles that are fun,
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  Speaker 1: Like the plot's not great, but they're fun. But then
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  Speaker 1: when you look at like and I didn't watch any
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: of these, but I have seen the clips of how
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  Speaker 1: bad things like the adr are for like Madam Webb
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  Speaker 1: and Morbius. Morbius, Yeah, well.
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  Speaker 2: Because in both of those you have extensive rewrites after
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  Speaker 2: the movie has already been shot.
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  Speaker 1: And Craven and like, some of those movies feature actors
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  Speaker 1: who just haven't been in anything that's really grabbed me yet,
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  Speaker 1: and some of them feature actors who have been in
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  Speaker 1: things that really have grabbed me. But I feel like
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  Speaker 1: it's a disservice to all of them, right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I feel like Aullt. Of the three you mentioned,
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  Speaker 2: Craven is probably the least bad. Really, Oh yeah, No,
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  Speaker 2: Morbius and Madam Webb are easily way worse out of
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  Speaker 2: the three. Like Madam Webb and Morbius are neck and
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  Speaker 2: neck for some of the worst superhero stuff to have
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  Speaker 2: been made by a major film studio in the last
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  Speaker 2: ten years. And I put them like they're worse than
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  Speaker 2: the Eternals. And I hated the Eternals, But but Craven,
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  Speaker 2: as bad as it is, it's nowhere near as bad
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  Speaker 2: I think as Morbius or Madam Webb.
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  Speaker 1: It's not you've watched all three of those I.
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  Speaker 2: Have, Let's say I've scrubbed through because I could not.
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  Speaker 2: I could not watch it minute for a minute. I
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: had to skip ahead in parts because I was just like,
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  Speaker 2: this is so dumb. If I continue to watch it,
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: my brains will leak out of my ears. Well, other
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: stuff I'm excited for. I'm excited for clay Face, which
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  Speaker 2: is about the DC villain, and it's already you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's been revealed that it's going to be kind of
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  Speaker 2: a body horror kind of film, which is intriguing to me.
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: It's a different sort of thing for DC, and so
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  Speaker 2: I'm curious about that. And I'm excited about the new
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: Buffy the Vampire Slayer series, which we will chat about
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  Speaker 2: briefly in the thirty seconds or less. I'm excited for
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: They Will Kill You, we'll also chat about in this
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  Speaker 2: episode more. And I'm morbidly curious about Avengers dooms Day.
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  Speaker 2: I wish I could say I was excited. I think
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  Speaker 2: it was more excited when they did the reveal of
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  Speaker 2: all the actor names on the back of the studio chairs.
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  Speaker 2: That to me was really exciting. But we have now
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  Speaker 2: Ariel and I have both seen and we'll talk a
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  Speaker 2: little bit about the trailers for Avengers Doomsday that feature
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: Chris Sevans, you know as Steve Rogers, the one with
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  Speaker 2: Thor and the one with the X Men, And we
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: were talking before we started recording that the more we see,
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  Speaker 2: the less excited we are about this movie. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: I had said that part of my problem is that
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  Speaker 2: the previous two part Avengers movies, you know, Infinity Warren Endgame,
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  Speaker 2: We're meant to be the payoff of all the films
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  Speaker 2: that led up to it, right, You had like years
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  Speaker 2: of movies and those two were the payoff. But the
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  Speaker 2: problem as I see it now is that the more
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  Speaker 2: recent Marvel films have been really a mess that it's
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  Speaker 2: not been cohesive. We haven't even established Doom as a
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  Speaker 2: villain yet. We've had one glimpse of him at the
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  Speaker 2: end of Fantastic Four, so he hasn't really been established.
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  Speaker 2: The character that was supposed to be established. We all
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  Speaker 2: know that didn't work out because Kang ended up not
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  Speaker 2: being a non thing after Jonathan Majors, So there's nothing
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  Speaker 2: to pay off, and that's a big problem I think.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there was the tiny bit of a tie
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  Speaker 1: in in Thunderbolts, which I do think Thunderbolts is like
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  Speaker 1: a step in the right direction for Marvel. I enjoyed
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  Speaker 1: that movie.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I did too. I just I don't know
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  Speaker 2: that just showing the Fantastic Four ship I don't think
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  Speaker 2: is enough of a tie in, because there's no mention
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  Speaker 2: of Doom in that either.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, But the big thing for me is to like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm fine with ort. We knew there was going to
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  Speaker 1: be in it from the back of the chairs, right,
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited to see how Loki ties in after season
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  Speaker 1: two of the television show, things like did we know
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  Speaker 1: that Chris Evans was going to be in it from
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  Speaker 1: the chairs? I don't think so.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Chris Evans' name was not included when it did
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  Speaker 2: the chair reveal.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like bringing him into it would be akin
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  Speaker 1: to resurrecting Robert Downey Junior's Iron Man and I they
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  Speaker 1: head ends to their stories, good, bad, bittersweet whatever, they
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  Speaker 1: were tied up, and I'm ready for the next thing.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to keep rehashing the past.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and that's the other thing that a lot
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  Speaker 2: of fans are saying is that because Marvel kind of
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  Speaker 2: dropped the ball pretty hard with the more recent films
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  Speaker 2: that this seems to send the message of we're not
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: confident in our storytelling, so we're going back to the
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: things we know audiences love in order to get excitement.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: And that's that's actually more distressing, right, because it's like, well,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: what we want is for you to write stories that
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: are interesting with interesting characters and to build this this
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: mythology in a way that is worthwhile, and we just
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: don't feel like that's happened in the last few years,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: like I do.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: But it was with Daredevil, and that was a continuation
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: of an existing pace.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, and that's street level characters. Like you can't
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: do a big, like universe shattering like storyline with street
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: level characters.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: I did enjoy The Fantastic Four. I think it's one
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: of the best Fantastic Four movies that's been made since
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: what Roger Corman.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, which I mean depending on your yeah, you
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: may not think that was a very high bar to clear.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, admittedly that is that is a like a
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: cult classic level enjoyment, right.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: It's not amazing, but it is a lot of fun.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: No, it feels it feels very genuine and earnest, and
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: that's the best thing you can say about it.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I do feel like the latest Fantastic Four movie,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: it was fun, it felt different, and I think that's
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: why I enjoyed it so much, is because it felt different.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: It felt like a new world.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and it didn't. Another issue that sometimes happens
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: with Marvel is that they require movies to tie into
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: other properties, which you understand because it's they're trying to
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: create this big, interconnected universe, but it really ties the
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: hands of whoever is directing and writing those movies if
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: they're told, hey, you have to include a sequence in which,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: you know, Thor sees the events of Rag the Rock
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: or whatever, which actually did happen in the Captain America movie.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: So you know, it's just you see where the pitfalls
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: are and you see how badly Marvel fell into them.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: And I enjoyed some of the movies and some of
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: the streaming series post Endgame, but I feel like I
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: enjoyed them individually, not as part of a bigger universe.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe that's what excites me a little bit about well,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I want to say it excites me
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: about what James Gunn has planned for the DCUM because
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: they aren't trying to make everything super cohesive. Now, Supergirl
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: and Superman aren't supposed to have the same vibe, but
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: they're obviously in the same world.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: See how that works out and if that works out.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think the idea of them all existing
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: within the same world is fine, and sidestepping the need
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: to have them interconnected is probably wise. Like when it
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: makes sense, sure, but otherwise, don't shackle everything with the
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: need to be connected to everything else, because as it
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: gets bigger, as we've seen with Marvel, as your universe
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: gets bigger, that's harder to maintain. And by the way,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: this is the same thing that happened in the comic books,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Like every so often it just gets so convoluted and
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: confusing that they're like, all right, we're doing a control
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: all delete and resetting the universe. And that happens multiple times.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Well, and oftentimes it's successful, right at least.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: For a while, Yes, yeah, yeah, but then again, like
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: once it gets big enough and complicated enough, you have
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: to do it again.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So in theory, movies should be able to do
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: that too, But it's there's a different investment. Yeah, well
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: for both the audience and the creator.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: For yeah, especially when you've associated a specific actor with
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: a specific character, it's really hard to break out of that. Well,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: moving on, because.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: We did we get through everything you're excited about.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, Well, I also wrote down various horror movies,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: but I didn't apart from They Will Kill You, I
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: didn't note any specific titles. But let's talk about what
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: we've watched since the last time. For me, it's easy.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: The only thing I've watched besides rewatching Superstore with Becca
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: is a fallout season two. I'm caught up on that.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: I haven't watched this week's episode.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Yet, episode four.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I've caught up beyond to that.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Episode four is interesting. It's you see the the no
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: pun intended fallout from the end of episode three.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: I assumed, so, yeah, I'm really interested to see how
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: that goes. So I haven't watched that, but I have
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: been watching Task Master Australia. I put New Zealand in
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: our notes because my brain still hasn't switched over.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: And yeah, we did have already. You had already watched
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: task Master New Zealand though.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, there's a fifth season I think, or
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: sixth season, a sixth season that is not on YouTube,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: so I don't have access to it. I tried, like
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: going to just watch dot com to find out where
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: I could see it, and I just can't find it yet.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: So I I know some of our listeners don't enjoy
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Task Master Australia. I'm enjoying it, but I'm also like,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: it's not the OG, right, nothing is the OG the
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: UK version. I've watched episode five of The Mighty nine,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: which got real dark and there was some animal cruelty
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: that I couldn't handle. It's cartoons, I mean, I can
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: tell you if you want to know what it was.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Was it the Bear?
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know, no, no, So in mighty nine, one
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: of the main characters Caleb, and if you are if
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: you haven't already watched, it's been that if you haven't
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: already watched this as a spoilers skip ahead thirty seconds
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: or whatever. One of the main characters, Caleb has like
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: a magical companion called Frumpkin, which is a cat. You
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: find out because they changed the order of the story
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: in the cartoon versus the actual play. That he had
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: a real cat named Frumpkin, and when he was being
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: controlled by the bad guy, he set his house on
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: fire with his parents and his cats on the inside,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: and they showed and audioed a bit too much of
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: that for me, and I just couldn't handle I can't nope, nope.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: And it was a very dark and gruesome episode. It
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: wasn't u fun, but it was very dark, exceptionally dark,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: which again with the actual play it's it is definitely dark.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: They definitely deal with stuff, but because of the order
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: that it happens, in the order of discovery, it doesn't
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: feel so weighed down. M hm, Like I don't know,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of having changed the order of things.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: I know they did it so that, like narratively, it
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: might be easier to follow, but it's almost like, and
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: I'm still enjoying the show and I love the Mighty nine,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: but it almost feels like they introduced the villain and
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: the problem without enough setup so that people can't care
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: about it, or at least the people I know who
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: are watching with me are like, Yeah, this is fine,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: but I don't care about what's going on. I don't
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: have enough information. Yeah, And because they haven't watched the
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: actual play like I have. I've been watching a bunch
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: of Dalton Abbey. My household was sick over the weekend
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: and I had finished up all of the Gilded Age,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: so I had watched Outon Abbey in the past. I
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: can consider it geeky because it's historical fiction. And I
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: stopped at season three because one of my favorite characters
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: dies at the end of season three and I'm like,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I don't want to deal with that. I'll just happy ending,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: just like not watching the Firefly movie, right, but I'm
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: watching through now.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Okay, So she's a leaf on the wind.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: I am a leaf on the wind.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Watch how she soars? All right? Well, yeah, I'll say
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: this about Fallout season two, episode four, I can understand.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: I've seen some discourse online about people concerned that the
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Mojave wasteland feels much more empty than it does in
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Fallout New Vegas. Now, keep in mind the TV series
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: takes place fifteen years after the events of Fallout New Vegas.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: But I can sort of understand and somewhat agree with
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: some of the concerns because partly it's because like, if
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: you're not a fan, if you haven't played the games.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: You don't know, so it's not a big deal. But
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: if you played the games, you're emotionally invested in some
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: of these places and characters because you spend a lot
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: of time around them, and to see things look much
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: more desolate and empty is it can be a little
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: frustrating because you're thinking to yourself, I spent so much
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: time saving that place for it to turn out like this,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: what the heck? And I get it, Like, I understand,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: I feel that too as someone who played the game.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: I understand I'm still enjoying the show, but I also
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: understand those critiques. I don't disagree with them necessarily, but
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: I like to see where the show is still going.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: But I mean, like Fallout is one of those narrative
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: stories where the outcome depends on your choices.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Right, sure. Yeah, And they've said famously that they did
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: not want to pick any particular ending as canon, meaning
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: that yeah, you might have played New Vegas, you know,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: heading for this specific ending, but the show chose a
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: different ending. They decide they wanted to choose by not choosing,
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: which I think is kind of a cop out honestly,
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: but it makes you sit there when you see what's
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: going on. You're thinking, Oh, the message this is sending
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: me since they didn't choose any particular ending to be canon,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: is that it doesn't matter how it ends. It all
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: turns out like this anyway, Like whether you went with
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: ending one or two or three or whatever, it all
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: turns out like this. And that's a pretty darn bleak message.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: So I have to turn that part of my brain off.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: People had that issue with the video game Mass Effect too.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: I knew you're gonna say Mass Effect. I knew it.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, but it's the same thing, like you're working
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: towards a certain goal and then none of that matters, right,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: But it is like you just have to view it
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: as a different thing. This TV show, yeah, isn't the
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: video game. It's its own story. There is one other
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: thing in twenty twenty six I'm very much looking forward to.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: I forgot to mention South of Midnight is getting a
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: PlayStation release.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Oh cool, Yeah, to play it. That's the one that's
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: set in like Louisiana and has a lot of folk
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: magic elements in it. And yeah, I love the animation style.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: I remember when those trailers came out. I was just
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: absolutely entranced. I want to say that the reviews I
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: saw for the game were kind of just okay, Like
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: they weren't bad, but they weren't like gushing about it,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: which is I think is a shame because I was like,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: it's such a beautiful art style and it's such a
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: cool setting and concept that I was really pulling for it.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: But I have not played the game, so I don't
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: have any personal response.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: The art style and the setting are enough to carry
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: a large portion of the weight for me, so I'm
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: still excited about it.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts on
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: it once you get a chance to play it, because
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: it's one of those games I I wish I had played.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: In fact, I guess I could still get the game
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: and play it. I just never play on the console anymore.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been sharing, so for a while it was
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: just me playing on the PS five, but my husband
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: has been trying to finish up Final Fantasy seven Volume two,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: and then got Expedition thirty three for Christmas.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: So Claire Obscira, yeah, I.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Won't be able to quite monopolize. I'm gonna have to share.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to share.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: You're gonna have to wait like eighty hours for him
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: to finish Clare Obscurra.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: But well, thankfully he plays a lot of it after
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: I go to bed.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: So I've never been into JRPGs. And now, granted this
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: is a JRPG. That's a JRPG from France, so it's
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: a French Japanese role playing game, but I've never been
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: into that style. So like when that game started winning
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: all the awards, I was like, there's just a different
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: world out there, because these games have never appealed to me.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: It's not to say it's not a great game.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Obviously, you let Bates. So what's the difference?
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, Baldersgate has a story that makes sense. That's
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: the big one. Also, like you know Baltersgate, it feels
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: a little bit more actioning even though it is technically
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: turn based, and I feel like I have more agency.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: I just I don't know. I've usually found JRPG's to
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: be almost incomprehensible, Like I'll look at the story and
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: go like I've played this for hours and I could
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: not tell you what the heck is going on or
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: why I should care other than I'm just progressing in
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: number go up, and I get that's that's a fault
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: on me. That's not a fault on the games, because
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: obviously these games are incredibly popular, lots of people love them.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: They just have never clicked with me. I've tried different
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: ones like Dragon Quest and you know, Final Fantasy and
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: all this kind of suf even ports of the Ultimate
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Games which were moved over to like console systems. I
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: love the Ultimate Games on PC that was made by
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Richard Garriott from Austin, Texas, but the ones that were
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: made for consoles were ported over to other companies that
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: made them more like JRPG's, and suddenly I couldn't play
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: them anymore. I'm like, oh no, oh, no, yeah, it's
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: just not for me. It's fine, it's for other people, gotcha?
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Because me, Yeah, I was like role playing game turn
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: based that sounds the same.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, I think JRPGs just have a totally
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: different vibe to me than other computer role playing game titles.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: But I don't know. Maybe I'm just a fuddy duddy.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Well I am a fuddy duddy, there's no Maybe.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: I was looking forward to the eventual Nularian game because again,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: I like Boulder Skate three quite a bit. I was
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: going to have some content in it that I don't
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: think I can handle.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: No, I don't know about it.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: It's like I think it's is it Oblivion.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: That's a Skyrim game, or rather.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: It's not.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: It's Divinity Divinity. So it's like, so it's like a
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: white fudge with like pecans in it.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: No, it's a I mean it's it's like a fantasy
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: world with elves and orcs and things like that. And
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Yes, okay, oh.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Sure, if pecans are other elves, that.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: That's gonna horrify. We've got chopped up elves in this
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: white fudge.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Yes, it is horrifying. So Divinity is not a game.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: They had two games, had Divinity and then Divinity too,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: and I never played either of them, just like I
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: never played any of the previous Balder's Gate and this
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: new one is an RPG. The trailer for it is
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: exceptionally disturbing. There's a lot of stuff that just upsets
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: me watching the trailer, and then I read about the
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: game and if it follows the first two divinities, even
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: though it's kind of its own thing, then yet some
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: of the elves get skills based off of cannibalism, and
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: that is not for me.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, we've we've established your your Uh yeah, you're
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: not big.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: On the That might be, I don't know. Maybe they'll
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: release more that'll make me more excited about it, But
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: right now I'm like, oh, I don't think. I don't
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: think this will be for me. That is so sad.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I haven't played any of the Divinity games either,
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: so like I was only familiar with Ballersgate three, I
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: had played the previous Bolterersgate games and my favorite character
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: was Minsk, who I have not yet encountered in Balder's
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Gate three. Because I keep putting it down and never
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: going back to it. I need to. I need to
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: just stick with it. I need to.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Play with it and stick with it, keep putting it down.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Have you put it down more than once? Have? Like?
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Have you revisited it?
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Yes? I rolled up a whole new character and started
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: all over again because I didn't. I couldn't. I didn't
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: know what I was doing. When I loaded my original save,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: I was like, I don't. I don't know where I
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: am or what's going on on or what I'm supposed
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: to do. I'm like I feel like I just need
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: to start over, and I feel like I could make
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: better choices. So I rolled up in all new and
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: then I did the same thing again. I didn't get
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: as far, I don't think, or maybe, yeah, I don't
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: think I got as far I think I got. I
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: don't think I even got into chapter two. So yeah,
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: I just need to I love that game, but I
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: just haven't played, haven't stuck through it. I think I
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: feel almost like the game would have been better if
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: it had come out as three games, each of the
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: each of the chapters had been its own game, because
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: I feel like that's the amount of content I can
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: comfortably go through and then I can put it down,
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: and then when the next one comes out, you know,
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: started off with a recap of what happened in the
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: first game and then pick up from there. Then I
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: would have been probably more accepting of it.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: But that's kind of what they've done with the new
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Final Fantasy seven. With the Final Fantasy seven remake, there's
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: three volumes to it, yeah, exception of instead they've just
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: filled each, at least the second volume with so many
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: mini games.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah. I remember listening to the Besties podcast and
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: them talk about the final Fantasy games. Again, I never
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: got into them, so I didn't bother playing the remix
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: because I never played the originals either, But it was
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: interesting to hear them talk about where it diverted from
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: the original storyline and characters and stuff. It's a pretty
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: bold choice to kind of move away from the thing
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: that everybody loved in the first place. Right, Yeah, Well,
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: let's finally transition over to thirty seconds or less, because
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: we've got still a ton of show left, and we've
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: already been going for more than thirty five minutes, so
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: I believe I'm first, You are first. Okay, here we go.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Warner Brothers Discovery continues to say no thanks to Paramount.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: The board of directors voted unanimously to stick with the
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: established Netflix deal, which still has to go through the
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: regulatory process. Whether it'll get through that process unscathe remains
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: to be seen. Because the Paramount deal evolves close allies
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: the US President, so who knows.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: It would definitely have to include lesson debt in the deal.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: There has been rumor, I guess it's not so much rumor,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: but Sabana Bastian Stan is in talks to join the
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Batman too. We don't know as who yet, but the
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: current popular theory is Harvey Dent Slash two Face, which
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: looking at the picture, I'm like, he could play Joker,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: but they already have someone playing Joker. It's just the
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Sebastian Stan looks kind.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Of like Luke Skywalker to me, Mark Hamill, Mark Hamill.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Thank you. I knew it until I had to say
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: it and then it disappeared.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Disney continues to mine their animated IP for live
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: action remakes and whether you think that's cool or a
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: cash grab. I've got some updates on the Tangled live
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: action film AUSSI. Eagan Croft has been tapped to play
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Rapunzel and Milo Mannheim will be Flynn. But what really
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: has be excited is that Catherine Hahn is in talks
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: to play Mother Gothel and that's enough for me to
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: check it out.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: She would be very good in that role. Disney Plus,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: we talked about this a little bit in the intro,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: is adding vertical videos to their service. They're still open
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: to how exactly they're going to do that, whether it's
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: smaller clips of their existing media or new media or
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: social media stuff, but they want to make it a
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: seamless experience for people who are already using the app.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know how else scroll through vertical videos on
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: my TV. That's how I use the app.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: We mentioned the Critics' Choice Awards earlier. Well, a lot
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: of geeky properties did well there. Jacob A. Lordi won
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: for Frankenstein, Amy Madigan for Weapons, Miles Caton Or Sinners,
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Tremel Tillman for Severance, and Ria Seorn for plur of Us.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: They all took home awards plus Centners won for Best
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Original Screenplay. The song Golden from K Pop Demon Hunters
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: won award. It's just it's good to be geeky, y'all.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: The thing that I am very excited about Kamil Nanjianni
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: is Kamil Nanjianni is joining the cast of Task Master
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: for series twenty one, which will be out this spring,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: more than likely because they released the series in the
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: spring and the series in the fall, making the Sex
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: the Second not the Sex the Second US contestant that
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: lives in the US. They've had another US contestant, but
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: she was living in the UK at the time, and
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: in interviews with Kamil, he's mentioned that US agents and
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: such don't really understand the appeal, and in fact, his
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: lawyer was like, why are you doing this? You're gonna
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: lose money. But he had a great time filming it,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: so I look forward to watching it.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, No. He had such glowing things to say
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: about his experience that I'm really excited about that. Game
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: producer mottoy Okamado said that plans for the Silent Hill
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: video game series are pretty darn ambitious. So they released
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: the remake of Silent Hill two in twenty twenty four,
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: and then the new game Silent Hill F last year
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: twenty five. The plan now is to release a new
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: game about once a year, which is kind of like
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: the old Assassin's Creed strategy or the current Call of
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Duty one. Well, my question is is that hell ever
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: gonna make any noise?
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, but only in your dreams uh. Vilma, that wonderful
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: cartoon ended two years ago, But that's not the end
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: of Scooby Doo. It's getting another spinoff called Stu. And
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: I was being sarcastic about the Velma cartoon. I did
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: not like it. No offense if you did. They're making
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: a new spin off called Scooby Doo Go Goku Goku
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: g O kko I should have looked up how to
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: say it. Anyhow, it's gonna launch in twenty twenty seven.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: It's said to be similar to Tom and Jerry Gaku,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: but we haven't gotten the art from it released yet.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Tom and Jerry Goku looked very cute, like the art
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: is super cute.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Well, Tom Cruise dropped by the set for Star Wars
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Starfighter and took up an invitation from Sean Leevy to
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: shoot a lightsaber duel sequence for the film. Now, to
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: be clear, Cruz was the one positioning the cameras and whatnot,
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: so he won't suddenly be dual wielding red and blue
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: sabers or something. But this does tell us we're gonna
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: get some lightsaber action and Starfighter. It's not all hot
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: shot pilots.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: I guess they're going to just be a whole bunch
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: of X Wings with lightsabers on the edge of the
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: wings like that.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just lightsabers duct tape to the end of.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yes, And then the X Wings are going
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: to do like some sort of like rhythmic gymnastics sort
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: of fighting to hit each other with him. So after
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: the two hour final episode of Stranger Things dropped. Fans
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: have been going insane, So there was a rumor that
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: has now been proved proved false, although I was like,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: ninety nine point nine sure it was false anyhow, that
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: it was the end episode was not actually the end episode.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Now their final final episode was going to drop on
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: January seventh. This conspiracy was called conformity gait. The whole
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: thing is that VECNA fooled everybody into believing they won,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: but actually VECNA won, And it's a horrible, sad ending.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know why fans would want that more. I
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: like happy endings and I'm glad Like even Netflix is
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: like all episodes are available for streaming. Now, this is
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: not true. Please stop.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, don't believe everything you read on the internet. Well,
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: the new Buffy the Vampire Slayer series has a subtitle
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: New Sunnydale. Fans will remember that the old sunny Dale
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: was essentially swallowed in a hell mouth. But a quarter
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: century has passed since then, Holy cowam mold, and it's
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: about time to rebuild. There probably won't be as many
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: malls this time around. I imagine the new show is
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: a continuation of the world established in the original series.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: I want to watch it. Lastly, we got a first
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: look at a film that is coming. Is it coming
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: to Amazon? Oh? I forgot that already. I know. There's
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: a film coming out called The Bluff. It's it follows
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Preanca Chopra Jonas's character, a female former pirate whose crew
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: is coming after her because she left the life, because
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: apparently that's the one thing that pirates can't forgive in
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: this world. It's rated R. It's yeah, it's on Prime.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: It comes out on February twenty fifth, and it is brutally,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: brutally violent. It also has Keith Urban in it.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Carl Urban.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: Carl Man. If I had Keith Urban, that would be interesting.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Though, Yeah, you pulled a Jonathan there. Usually I'm the
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: one who's said is the wrong name, But yeah, Keith
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: Urban as a singing pirate would be pretty amazing.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: It's like the gritty reboot of Pirates of Penzance.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so no, Carl Urban is so this confused me
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: when I first looked at it. It was an article in Esquire.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: We'll have it in the show notes. But when I
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: first looked at it, I saw a picture of Urban
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: as the antagonist, and he's holding a revolver and I'm like,
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: wait a minute, he's a pirate Revolvers weren't really a
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: thing till the eighteen thirties. And then in the article
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: it says it's set in the late eighteen hundreds, and
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: I'm like, virus is not really especially in the Caribbean,
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: is not really a thing at that point.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: But okay, they also say that it's almost more mafia like.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: The article says that it's also leans more towards like
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: mafia vibes that, yeah.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Like organized crime, like piracy as organized crime, which I
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: guess you could argue a pirate ship is an organized
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: crime type of thing, but it's just in very small
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: scale mobile.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah you know. Or yeah, I was going to say
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: something clever, but it wasn't clever, So yes, mobile organized crime.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm still interested to see it. I love
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: piracy type stuff, so I'll probably check it out, but
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: it like knowing that the setting and all that kind
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: of stuff makes me a little less interested. This had
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: been set during like the golden age of piracy at
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: the end of the seventeenth century, then I would have
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: been much more interested. But then the East India Company
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: wouldn't make any sense because they were, as the name implies,
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: really focused on East India and not on the West Indies.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Take that, Pirates of the Caribbean.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Take it, Take it and don't run with it. Yeah,
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: that's that's all we have for fifty seconds or less
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: seconds or less a minute or so maybe Keith.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: Urban sing along thirty seconds or less. Let's talk about
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: stuff that we have in our lineup that doesn't quite
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: fit the geeky, you know, genre stuff. First up, we've
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: got a trailer for Malcolm in the Middle Life's still unfair.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: The series' premieres on April tenth. What did you think
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: of the trailer?
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: So? I was iffy on it coming out right, because
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: sometimes more of a good thing, more pizza does not
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: always equal more happy, as my friends group sometimes says.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: But the trailer looks really cute. It gives me very
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: much the same vibe of the original show, which I
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: enjoyed quite a bit. Is definitely a very goofy, slapstick
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: kind of comedy that is maybe not the the crux
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: of comedy currently, but it also felt like new story
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: being told, so it didn't just feel like, oh, yeah,
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: I've seen that episode. Oh I've seen that episode. I'm
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: exceptionally excited for it. I think I just need that
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: kind of goofy happy in my life right now.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And you also get the feeling that Malcolm, in
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: order to preserve his sanity, has largely sequestered himself away
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: from his family and now is forced to be drawn
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: back in and thus insanity begins to accumulate once more.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: And that's interesting too because that could have some like
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: actual drama associated with it.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: It could, and it also fits with his character. He
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: was always the one who was kind of embarrassed by
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: his family and trying to get away, right Yeah, I don't.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: He was the most normal out of all of.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Them, which is not saying too much. But I think
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Dewey's not coming back, but the rest of the family is.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: So that's exciting. But are you looking now to make
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: sure that you have the right person. It's Keith Urban's
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: not coming back for Malcolm in the Middle.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Keith Urban. Oh shut up, I'm just gonna.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: Fit Keith Urban and does as many stories as I can.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: It is Dewey and he's not coming back. The problem
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: is I also watched The Middle, which is a different
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: show but a very similar concept. I also enjoyed The Middle,
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: so I was like, is Dewey from Dewey is from
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: Malcolm in the Middle. No, maybe he's from the Middle.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you this, Like, there's enough sitcoms that follow
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: like large families or even multiple families where they're they're
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: not all that similar to each other, but it's similar
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: enough for me to mix them up. And that includes
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: Malcolm in the Middle, The Middle, and Modern Family. I
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: never watched Modern Modern Modern Fairy. No, I didn't watch
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Modern Fairy either. Okay, let's move on.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: Actually, it looks like Dewey will be returning, but they've
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: recast him.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Ah, gotcha, so new actor. Well, next up, we got
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: a trailer for a film coming to Amazon Prime on
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: January twenty eighth, so that's pretty soon. Is called The
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: Wrecking Crew. I don't know how I hadn't heard about this,
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: but it's got Jason Momoa in it and Dave Batista
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: in it as half brothers, and it's sat in Hawaii
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: and there's yakuza. Stephen Root is in it, and I
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: love Stephen Root, and like the whole trailer is goofy,
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: over the top action comedy, and I don't know, I
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: kind of dug it. What did you think?
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: I also kind of dug it. I feel like this
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: is maybe something where if like we had read the
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: log line and no names were attached yet, yeah, we
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: might have been like a generic action movie. Yeah yeah, yeah.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: The brothers come together I think because of the mysterious
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: death of their father.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, their father appears to be killed in a
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: hit and run accident, but Jason Momoa's character, who is
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: a cop, suspects that it was actually murder.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Even still like action with Jason Momoa and Dave Bautista,
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, sure, yes, Stephen Root has I've always
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: liked Stephen Root, but he blew my mind as a
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: performer in Barry Right.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: Just yeah, oh, it's a masterclass. He's phenomenal, phenom.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, everybody in that was phenomenal. That show, like
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: on the dual levels of being a great like crime
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: drama and then also all of the meta with acting
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: and all of the comedy. It was just brilliant.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: Well and the fact that he his character I think
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: changes more than any other character on that show.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, Yeah, and just some really funny and some
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: really moving and some really scary moments. So brilliant. So
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: like you put Stephen Root on it, and I'm like, yes,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: but like the concept itself doesn't super appeal to me,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: and Dave Bautista and Jason Momoa have done enough like
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: action stuff that I've been meh on. Yeah, but the
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: trailer does look fun.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: It actually kind of reminds me of the nineties action
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: comedies but updated so it doesn't feel like a dated
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: version of that. But it feels like it's got that
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: same kind of spirit to it, something like Lethal Weapon, right,
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: but obviously even more grandiose and action oriented than Lethal
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: Weapon was. But that's what really appeals to me too.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: So I'm hopeful for this one. I think it looks
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: like it's a good time and we don't have to
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: wait too long. Like I said January twenty eighth, it's
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: on Amazon, So I hope to enjoy this when it
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: comes out.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: And then when you remind me that you've watched it,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: I will watch it.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: I totally forget something that I don't think you'll watch
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: as apex.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: No, which is said I like Taron Taron Egerton, but
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: who plays the villain in this movie?
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that Charlie's theon plays the hero.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I like her too, though I have watched
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: less of her stuff. Surprisingly, Yeah, you say it looks
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: like a variation of the Most Dangerous Game, which is
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: also something I've not watched. But it's yeah, people hunting people.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the Most Dangerous Game is a reference
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: to you know, humans are the most dangerous game to hunt, Like,
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: That's what the whole plot of the Most Dangerous Game is.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: You've got this big game hunter who strands a bunch
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: of people on an island and then starts to hunt them.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: We've seen variations of that so many times. This looks
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: like yet another one. Charlie's there, thron is playing a
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: character who she's a rock climber and so kind of
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: already really in great shape and everything, and Egerton's character
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: wants to hunt her. And so it comes out April
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: twenty fourth. It's a Netflix movie, so this will be
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: on Netflix. You'll be able to watch it if you're
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: subscribed to that series that platform. Yeah. I I don't
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: know that there's enough here to make me want to
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: watch it, simply because I've seen this kind of story
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: played out so many times.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, not for me. The next thing, though, is
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: potentially for me, and I didn't think it would be.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: There's another movie coming out called is a movie or
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: a series series? Oh? I thought it was a movie.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: I thought for sure. I looked this one up and
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: it was a movie.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: Darn.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: It's a series called Memory of a Killer. Yeah, where
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: there there's a guy who's a hit man, who lives
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: a double life, as many hitmen do. Right, you've got
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: your professional life and then your personal life.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if it turns out if you walk around saying
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: I'm a hit man, it's real hard to navigate through society.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then he ends up being diagnosed with a
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: memory disorder. I don't know if it's Alzheimer's or something
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: like that, but it starts blurring the lines, and that
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: to me is an interesting concept on this hit man story.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so interesting that there's been two movies that
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: have been like this in recent years. But there was
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: one I hadn't paid.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: I've forgotten about them.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: There was one with Michael Keaton and there was one
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: with Liam Neeson. And but yeah, there's been other movies
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: that have played with this about like someone in a
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: very dangerous profession that relies upon being exceedingly careful undergoing
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: mental deterioration and the pressure that puts on them as
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: they try to secure as much as they can in
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: their lives in an inherently insecure, you know, occupation.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so, I honestly had forgotten about those two movies.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: Neither of them stuck in my brain. I don't know
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: if it's because Patrick Dempsey is starring in this one,
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: and he was the dad and Enchanted. I know he
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: was also in Gray's Anatomy. I never watched Gray's Anatomy.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: Gina Torres also is in this series, and you know,
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: she's for you Firefly fans out there. She's she's got
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: her own strong geek roots. This comes out January twenty fifth.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: The first episode drops on January twenty fifth on Fox.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: I think it will also be on Hulu. So that's
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: it does look good. Like I don't mean to downplay
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: the fact that this idea has also been explored in
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: recent media. I think that's fine if they're able to
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: do it in a way that's compelling and interesting, And
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: it looks to me like this trailer like they've done that.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the trailer looked good to me. It looked like
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: it had a good balance of action and intrigue and
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: heart honesty.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: Next up, we also have another mini series. This is
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: coming out on Prime and it's called Steel Sta l
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: as in like thievery and whatnot. And it features Sophie
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: Turner playing an office worker and some criminals break into
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: her place of business and force her at gunpoint to
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: transfer a truly ginormous amount of money to them, and
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: then she gets all wrapped up in the crime. Like
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: she's suspected by law enforcement. The robbers themselves are kind
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: of after her as well. You kind of start to
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: question whether she did have any involvement based on this
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: trailer anyway. Like I'm like, I can't tell if she's
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: truly like innocent or was actually part of it through
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: the whole thing. I don't know. But this comes out
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: on January twenty first, and all six episodes will be
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: released at the same time on Prime, so you know
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: you won't have to wait week to week. You can
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: just binge it if you want to.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: I think I am more interested in Memory of a Killer.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: But Steele doesn't look bad. It looks like a fun
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: roll for Sophie Turner.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like it's another action oriented series. And
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: I like heist stories typically, so maybe I'll check this out.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: I'll at least probably check out the first episode and
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: see if I want to stick with it.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The next thing we got was a trailer for
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: The Rip, which is Goodwill Hunting Goes Bad Boys.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's Ben Affleck and Matt Matt Damon uh
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: In in this movie, as well as people like Steven Ewan,
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: Sasha cal you know, a former Supergirl, Scott Adkins, the
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: martial arts guy, uh and former Batmanuel Nestor Carbonel isn't
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: it I love Yeah, I love him too. He's great.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: Uh So yeah, they're they're in this this film about
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: cops in Miami who come across a massive stash of
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: money and then there's like all this distrust among the
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: cops about like are we sure that no one's gonna
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: take this? Like that's why they call it the rep.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: The rep is the the money that has been discovered,
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: and so there's a lot of like intrigue and suspicion
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: on beh behalf of the cops who worry that someone
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: might pocket some of this money because no one expected
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: to find it. So, you know, it's Yeah.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: It's apparently based off of or inspired by a true story. Interesting,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: that's some narcotics, cop law enforcement. Yeah, this one also
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: comes out very soon. It's on January sixteenth on Netflix.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: So this one doesn't look like my kind of thing. Like,
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: I'm not big into cop dramas typically, but Matt Damon
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: and Ben Affleck typically do pretty good work, so especially
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: when they're working together. Yes, yeah, it excites. So this
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: is not my kind of movie. Hey, Ariel, complete a sentence, please,
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: This is not necessarily my kind of movie. I have
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: watched things like Bad Boys and stuff like that, and
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: I do occasionally watch police drama or organized crime stuff.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: But I know that I think I mentioned this before
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: in like Matt Damon's last Hot Ones interview, he mentioned
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: how there wasn't a place for the smaller budget like
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: Cetterhouse Rules, Good Will Hunting kind of movies anymore. That
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: was all big blockbuster and I love to see that
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: we're going back to those. I mean, this is definitely
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: an action movie, but it's not a giant blockbuster budget
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: giant budget movie.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, it's not one where like you know,
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: you're going to have an explosion that you can see
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: from half a mile away.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't use all of the pyrotechnics in Australia.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. I think that some of the streaming
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: services are serving as the home for those mid budget projects,
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: which is both good and bad, right, Like, there's bad
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: stuff with that too, the large one being that, well,
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: you've got to be subscribed to that service in order
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: to be able to see it. You can't just go
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: to the theater and catch it, right, So that's kind
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: of a bummer. But at the same time, like a
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: lot of those mid budget movies, depending upon what market
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: you lived in, you might not be able to see
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: them anyway, just because there wouldn't be a theater inconvenient
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: driving distance that would be showing it. I mean.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: One of the good things that the the if Netflix
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: and Warner Brothers, if that deal goes through, right, is
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: that Netflix has said that they will commit to putting
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: movies in theaters. The downside is they want to make
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: it a shorter run time. Yea, yeah, so it goes
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: to streaming so sooner, which is not great because a
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: lot of movies make a lot of their money, like
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: it does usually not always, but it does tend to
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: have like the biggest punch of income at the opening right,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: and then it gradually dwindles and sometimes it'll get like
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: a resurgence in the middle. But you know, a lot
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: of movies, so I've started subscribing to some industry news,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: and a lot of movies have been making more money
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: than they've spent recently, which is great. Theater movie revenue
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: overall has declined this year from last year, but imax
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: revenue has gone super big. But the few things that
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: Netflix has released into the theaters I think has done
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: have done really well. Stranger Things sold out and it's
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: two days. They've released K Pop Demon Hunters twice, so
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: wake Up dead Man, Yeah, yeah, Frankenstein. I don't know
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: how Frankenstein did, but the rest I know did really well.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: So maybe maybe Netflix will end up being an avenue
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: to get these smaller films, at least for a short
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: amount of time, into theater, and maybe that will The
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: problem is with these like mid level movies, it could
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: either mean that they get everybody going at once and
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: it's successful, or by the time people learn about it,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: like I'm just now hearing about the rip, it's too
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: late and they've lost a bunch of money. It's a
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: very it feels like a big gamble to me.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, uh, rounding out are stuff what doesn't fit.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: We've got a two part documentary. We've mentioned this before,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: but there's a two part documentary part drops on January
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: twenty second on HBO about mel Brooks, titled mel Brooks
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: the ninety nine year Old Man. We got a trailer
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: for this, and what did you think of the trailer?
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: Okay, first of all, I think that the trailer looked
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: very good. I think it looks engaging. You know, it's
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: nice to to get to see mel Brooks talk about
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: his life and what he shared and what he hasn't shared,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: and what's his inspiration is, because he's inspired a whole
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: bunch of people as well. Two, I think it does
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: fit into our regular show notes because melbrook No, because
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: mel Brooks is like the father of so many geeky
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: cult classics like Frankenstein and Spaceballs and.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: You know, the like menon Tights and Dead.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say Dracula didn't love a it, but
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: I don't think that one did as well.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: Listen, if we're talking about classics, I will allow Young
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: Frankenstein and begrudgingly allow Spaceballs. I will not allow Men
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: and Tights. I enjoyed menon Tights, but I think it's
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: inferior to Spaceballs.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: I loved it when it came out and I watched it.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: I tried to rewatch Men and Tites recently was rough.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can rewatch Young Frankenstein anytime.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that's great. And I only watched Spaceballs for
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: the first time last.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: Year, so, oh wow. I enjoy Spaceballs, but it's and
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to the sequel, which also should be
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: coming out. Maybe not this year, maybe it's next year,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: but I'm looking forward to that. I would if it
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: does come out this year, that would be one of
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: the ones I would put at the top of the
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: show about one something excited about.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: So I had seen bits and pieces of space Balls,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: but I only watched it in its entirety this year.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: I am looking forward to it as well. Melbrooks has
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: enough hits that yeah, I think I'll enjoy it.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to this documentary. You know, the bits
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: that we saw of present day mel Brooks talking about
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: his life. I mean, the man is still funny and
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: he's still very like self deprecating and silly, and that's
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: encouraging as well. Plus, you know, there's tons and tons
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: of interviews with all these figures in comedy talking about
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: what a huge influence he has been on them, and
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: that's really cool. So I'm looking forward to it. I
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: really liked the two part documentary about Paul Rubins akap
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: Wee Herman, so I'm looking forward to seeing this one too.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: Like I said, it comes out January twenty second on HBO.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: I have so many documentaries about people I need to watch.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: I need to watch the John Candy one. I need
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: to watch the guy who played Ernest Oh.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I need to watch Jim Varney. Jim Varney. Yeah,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: I need to watch those two.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So this one I want Paul Rubins. I know
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: that's going to be a sad one. I know it's interesting,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: but I haven't been able to bring myself to watch it.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: It's also cool because he he is a difficult person
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: to interview, like he is purposely being difficult, and it's
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: not entirely it's not necessarily in a malicious way. It's
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: like very mischievous, but it's there's an edge to it too, right,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: Like it's not just playful. There's something back there too,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: and that to me was fascinating and I really enjoyed
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: that documentary. Like I wouldn't say it's the easiest watch,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: but I think it was really intriguing.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do want to watch it. I just I
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: have to like steel myself to do.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, you got to be in a mood totally.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: I get it. There's no disagreement here. Well, it's that time,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: y'all the time for us all to turn slightly to
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: the left, walk forward to that dusty corner that doesn't
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: get enough light. That floorboard is gonna creak something awful
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: as we get close to opening. John Boys, Horror Hutch
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: come on in with me. First of all, Ariel, did
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: you watch any of the trailers?
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: I tried. I also just tried to put a squeaky
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: floorboard in, but I don't know if it worked.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: I can I can do that in post. I have
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: the sound effects. It's fine.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: I like that.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: I like that you were doing live folly.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: I like doing live fully occasionally. I don't know if
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: it picked up. So I did see They Will Kill
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: You because it came on like as a commercial break
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: on something else I was watching, and it interested Tony
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: and I both enough that we just didn't skip it. Yeah,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: the other three I attempted to watch and then noped
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: out of all of them.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: That's fair. All right, Well, let's let me start by talking.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: I want to talk about these first two because I
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: feel like they are somewhat linked thematically. They're not, they're
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: not the same story or anything, but they have themes
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: that they share. So the first one is called self Help. Now,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: this is the one that I would say I'm less
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: interested in personally. It's a screen box film, meaning that
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: it's streaming on screen Box, which I don't subscribe to,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: so I would have to do that first to watch it.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: But self Help looks like it's a fairly low budget film,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: still looks like it's well shot, at least. The log
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: line is a young woman infiltrates a dangerous self actualization
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: community after her mother becomes entangled, but its enigmatic leader.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: So kind of a cult film. This idea of like
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: getting inspiration from some charismatic leader who's telling you how
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: to best live your life. That resonates with me because
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: I work in the podcast realm, and honestly, there's a
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: ton of podcasts that are in this field. Like it's
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: the same field where all the like public speakers dominated
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: during the nineties and the two thousands, right, ye, they're
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: now kind of doing that in the podcast. They still
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: do like book tours and all that kind of stuff too,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: So that sort of appealed to me. But the more
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: I watched it, the more I was like, maybe this
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: is just a badly made trailer. But it feels a
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: little jumbled and not not very clear to me. Some
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: of that was just literally the sound mixing, where I'm like,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: I can't understand what that person is saying. But anyway,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: I want to contrast that that's out right now, by
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: the way on screen box, I'm gonna contrast that with
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: Honey Bunch. This this looks amazing to me, Like, this
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: looks like it is gonna be a hard watch, Like
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: I would put this up with someone like Midsommer as
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: being a hard watch. But it's about a couple. The
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: wife was in a coma and has woken up. Her
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: husband is caring for her as she is in recovery,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: and he takes her to an experimental care facility, and
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: during that process, the woman either starts to unlock memories
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: or is hallucinating things that indicate there's some really dark
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: stuff about her marriage and life, and so it's a
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: little bit of unreliable narrator element going on here, at
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: least in the trailer, where I can't be sure if
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: she really has experienced these things or if she just
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: believes she has because she's it's revealed she has brain
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: damage and she's really scared that she'll never recover from it.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: So it looks really intense, and to me, it resonates
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: more than Self Help Dead, which is exploring kind of
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: similar themes. This one comes out February thirteenth, and I
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: would be very interested to see it. I don't know
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: if it's gonna live up to what I'm expecting based
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: on the trailer, but I like the trailer, and then
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: I have They Will Kill You. This is the one
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: that you saw at Stars Zazzi Beats, and it looks bonkers,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: but in the best way.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Honestly, I think from the director of it appealed
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: to Tony and that's what first kept our appearance. But
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: then it's got Patricia Arquette doing her weird severance accent.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: Yes, I have that. Patricia Arquette is being extremely severancy, yes.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: And an amazing cast, and it feels there is there
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: is the one that the sequels coming out ready or
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: not ready or not? Yeah, and it feels a lot
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: like that. It almost though, feels cheekier to me. It
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: almost feels closer to like a kill Bill style movie.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So my my pitch for this movie would have
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: been imagine ready or not except that the proposed victim
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: is incredibly capable and a total badass. Because that's the
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: that's the premise, is that Zazzi beats. She has taken
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: on a job as a maid at this building called
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: the Virgil and is uh it's a hotel. Yeah, I'm
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: not sure if it's a hotel, for it's supposed to
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: be like an apartment building. It looks like it's a hotel,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: like that's what looks like. It doesn't look like an
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: apartment building. But the residents of this place have made
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: a pact with the debil, and the pact with the
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: devil is that when the rent is due, they have
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: to do a human sacrifice. I mean, rent is killer
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: in New York. Let's not beat around the bush is killer.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: So it's just literal in this sense where they have
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: to kill someone and that's their rent control, I guess
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: which would be hilarious. I'm totally on board for that.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: And Zazi beats His character is unknowingly supposed to be
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: the next victim, except it turns out she can really
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: fight back, and the trailer just has her kicking all
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: sorts of but while numerous residents of the building try
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: to kill her. And the supporting cast is great, like
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: Heather Graham and Tom Felton are in it, and we've
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: already mentioned Patricia Arcuat and it looks very high energy
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: kind of horror action comedy genre. It comes out March
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: twenty seventh. I will probably try and see this. I
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: don't I'm not expecting it to be great, but I'm
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: expecting it to be very entertaining.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: I want to see it. I have to do the
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: like the Common Sense media review, so I know what
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: kind of horror I'm in for.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: First, Well, you know, at least one person gets their
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: hand cut off, because it happens in the trailer, and
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: one person gets split right down the middle, like top
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: to bottom down the middle.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: But that the way that happened in the trailer was
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: not gruesome at.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: All, No, it was It was done more as a
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: comedy beat than a horror beat, and I'm totally cool
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: with that. Like, I feel like this is a horror
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: comedy action movie where the comedy stuff is leaning into
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: the horror, but without it being overtally gruesome. But that's
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: also just what we saw on the trailer. Who knows
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: what happens in the actual movie. And finally we have
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: what I think looks like the scariest of the movies
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: that I saw trailers wore this week, which is the undertone.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: This is an independent horror movie out of Canada. Yeah,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: very scary. Also hits us close to home because it's
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: about a podcaster.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: Which is why I nope, doubt because that one time
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: you were editing and there was that weird thing. You're like,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: there's this weird voice in there.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and I played it for you. Yeah that
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: we never figured out where that voice came from. I'm
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: sure it was just one of us saying something and
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: somehow it got warped. But yeah, there was like a
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: really weird, like distorted voice in one of our recordings
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: once and I never did figure out where it came from. Anyway,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: This is this is about a podcaster. She it's funny
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: because years ago friend of the show Shite suggested that
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: she and I do a paranormal podcast where I would
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: be the skeptic and she would be the not believer,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: but someone who's more prone to thinking something might have
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: some relevance and reality to it. And I'm a hardcore
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: skeptic none of that. I don't believe in any of it.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: So she wanted to do this show like that. Well,
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: this sounds like the main character is the skeptic of
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: a pair like that who are doing a paranormal podcast.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: She's working out of the home of her mother who
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: is very ill and is dying, and then creepy stuff
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: starts to happen, And a lot of the scary stuff
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: in this movie is sound based, Like it's all about
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: really really creepy sound design. There's creepy visuals too, but
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: the sound design is the big part of it. So
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: I would say that if you are interested in the undertone,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: you should see it either in a theater that has
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: really good sound or if you're watching it at home
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: where headphones, because it looks to me like the kind
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: of movie where those sound cues are going to be
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: where a lot of the creeps come in comes out
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: March thirteenth. I am extremely interested in seeing this.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: I look forward to your review. I think it'll be
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: a little too scary for me again without knowing what's
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: going to happen. But I am excited about movies that
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: really focus on, you know, sound design, and some of
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: the big budget ones when they win for sound design,
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: I'm like, why because it felt very uneven to me.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean my favorite I think my favorite movie
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: moment of twenty twenty five was a soundqe in Weapons.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: There was a sound q in Weapons, And I've said
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: this before. When I saw it in the theater, my
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: whole the audience in the theater, everybody went ah. And
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: it was a sound cue. You weren't You couldn't see
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: it on the screen, but everyone knew what it was.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, this is this is masterful movie making.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: Nice Nice. I still need to see Weapons.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: It's so good. It's so good.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: It is at the top of my list every time
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: in my home, and I'm like, we should watch a movie.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: Do you want to watch Weapons? I don't know if
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: I feel like horror right now.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: I will say that it's got a bunker's ending that
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: will definitely turn things around for you.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think I know what happens, but also
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: like I kind of knew some of the plot.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: Already, so yeah, oh not everyone had a chance to
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: read stuff ahead of time.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: It's not a brag, Like anybody who auditioned for that
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: got a chance to read some stuff.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: Right, So yeah, you were good for those who do
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: not know. At one point, Ariel was auditioning for the character.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: If you saw the trailers, you saw a mother stabbing
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: yourself in the face with a fork. That could have
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: been Aeriel.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: But I've heard the movie is amazing, so I am
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: certain that that actress who they did pick.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, it's better than a fork in the eye.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's it for the horror hutch.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: Let's close that dusty door behind us and step out
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: into the sunlight.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: It sounds good, Well, so let's start off with something cheerful.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: I didn't mean for this, but now that I'm looking
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: at the lineup, what's first on our list? It really
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: the first two things we're gonna probably spend very little
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: time on because we've actually talked about both of them
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: already on the show.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: The first is we got a full trailer for Good Luck,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: Have Fun, Don't Die, which is the Sam Rockwell correct
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: movie where he travels through time to get people to
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: help him fight against AI that is taking over the
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: world in like virtual reality and stuff like that. Yeah,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: you're making a face. Did I get that wrong?
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: No? No, you're right, that's right, Like I think that
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: in large part, this is a movie that is a
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: commentary on screen time, like how much time we spending
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: on our devices, but it's projecting it to this thing
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: about like a VR headset that essentially enslaves humanity. And
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: so Sam Rockwell says he's from the future and he
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: comes to this diner to create a group of people
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: who will save the world. And we talked about this
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: in previous episodes where we had the teasers and stuff.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: This one we got a little bit more of a
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: look at the technology they're trying to prevent.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Also it gave us a little bit more of
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: the plot. So there's definitely like a gritty, more realistic
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: through line. Because the first trailer or the teaser felt
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: very like everything everywhere all at once, just completely zany
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: can't get your bearing, And this one feels like there
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: might be enough time to like get a breather and
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: know where you are.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, the first one was really there to capture
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: your attention. This one is telling you a bit more
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: of what's going on. Zazzi Beats is also in this,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: so she's killing it this year.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, she's great. She is, and I agree. It
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: does seem like it's commentary on screen time, even to
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: what you were saying earlier, where you get such small
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: bites you don't know what's real and what's not and
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: what's been so heavily edited. Right, Yeah, there's a lot
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: of talking the trailer about is this real? Is this reality?
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah? And this comes out February thirteenth, so we don't
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: have to wait that long, you know, just in time
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: for Valentine's Day.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: Yes, I might might sue it for Valentine's Day.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this looks like it's fun. I want to see it.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I love Sam Rockwell and yeah, he's great. Okay,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: the beauty trailer.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about the teaser for this not long ago,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: so we don't need to spend much time. But this
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: is the Ryan Murphy series that is based off a
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: I can't remember if it was a manga or a book.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: But anyway, it's based off a maybe it was a
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: graphic novel. It was based off a previous story, and
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: in this trailer it's actually revealed, like before we thought
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: that Ashton Kutcher is playing this billionaire company leader who
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: comes up with a drug makes people young and beautiful
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: but at a tremendous cost, Like it's it's a deadly
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: kind of thing later on. Uh, and then the original
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: story it was a sexually transmitted disease, and this trailer
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: reveals that, Oh it still is. You know that's revealed
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: in the trailer. It's just I guess he's also distilled
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: it into a drug that they're now selling to people.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: It seems like maybe it's started as the drug and
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: then it morphed.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: Into maybe maybe it's the other way around. I thought
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: it was. I thought it was an STD that they
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: then turned into a pharmaceutical product, but the way around. Yeah,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: either way, it's it's not great and and people go
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: nuts and things go crazy, and this is the one
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: that has the the eyepatch wearing assassin and lots of
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: other crazy stuff.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, like the teaser made it feel almost like
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: like a comic bookie superheroe sin City kind of a thing.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: This trailer makes it feel a little closer to like
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: Americans horror story kind.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: Of yeah, which makes sense because it's Ryan.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: Murphy yeah storytelling, which I like less. Yeah, so I
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: think a little less into this now.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: It looks real trashy, yeah, which again it's kind of
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: Ryan Murphy's bread and butter. I I might try and
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: watch the first episode, but I'm not gonna really make
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: a huge effort. It comes out January twenty first on
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: FX and Hulu, so maybe I'll try and see if
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: it appeals to me. But I will just be honest
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: with y'all, like I have tried on multiple Ryan Murphy
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: projects to get into those things. And with the exception
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: of some of.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: Glee, you know, I didn't know he did Glee.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: I want to say, yes, Actually, I'm gonna do a
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: quick look you can vamp. I'm gonna make sure, but
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure he was behind Glee.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: Which feels very different from American horror story. I did
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: watch some of Glee, so I fell off of that
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: after they stole Jonathan Coulton's Babies got back cover.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, to the point where they didn't even change
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: one of the lyrics that Jonathan Coulton had changed, and
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: then they tried to argue that they did not do that.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Ryan Murphy was behind Glee, Yes, okay, which
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: is also trashy by the way, it's.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: But like different, like a different.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: Not as trashy as American Horror Story or All's Fair
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: or any of those things.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not as sexy for sure, at least not
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: to me. Yeah. I liked some of Glee until I
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: realized that it wasn't It was just pilfering stuff a
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: lot of the times.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like that. Yeah, And I liked it when they
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: were doing more show tunes, and I didn't care for
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: it as much when they were doing the pop songs
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: because so I would have preferred it if it wasn't
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: about the Glee Club but was instead about a musical
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: theater department. Right, Yeah, But then there's so many issues
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: I have with that show where I'm just like, oh,
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: this is skeezy and gross and exploitative, and then on
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: top of that, like there's true tragedy attached to that show.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: I think there's like three of the main actors have
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: passed away, one of them during the actual process of
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: making the show. So that's rough, Like there's a lot
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: of bad juju going on there. Anyway, the beauty looks
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: like it's super duper trashy, So that's your thing. You can
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: check it out on January twenty first.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I you know, there has been more tragedy than
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: success aroundly. But Amber Reiley is killing.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: It so well. So is Leah Michelle Over and she's
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: currently killing the musical Chess. That's not her fault. Danny
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: Strong talk about another Buffy connection. Danny Strong pretty much
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: killed it with a really bad, in my opinion, bad
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: adaptation of the book. But to be fair, I don't
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: think anyone has made a good version of Chess yet.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: Fair, I still have not seen Chess. I've only listened
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: to you and Lina sing it.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: Oh the Mountain duet. Yeah, also known as the Terrorist
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: Duet depending on which version of the show you're watching.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So now we're gonna probably talk about two other
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: things that we're not gonna spend much time on. Well,
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe we will Avengers, Doomsday, thor and
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: X Men.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got the teasers for those, like we obviously
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: already got the teaser with Steve Rogers. Now we've got
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: it with Thor and X Men. The news about these
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: had been leaking even before they started to show up
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: in theaters. People were taking like cell phone videos of
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: them in the theater and sharing them online, and then
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: eventually Marvel released the actual official ones on YouTube, so
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: we got to see those. We've already kind of talked
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: about how I don't think either of us are particularly
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: excited for Avengers Doomsday.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, the where I see the less excited I am.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: Like the Thor trailer made me think that you were
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: right in that Doomsday is collecting all the babies because
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: Thor talks about his kid and it was fine whatever.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: You know, there were good moments in Thor, Love and Thunder,
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: and it might actually be Chris Hamsworth's kid, actual kid.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'd have to look that up. I didn't,
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: but I think like both his child in Taikowa Titi's
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: child were in the film. But it was fine. It
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: was whatever. It didn't much like the teaser at or
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: the easter egg at the end of Captain America Red Hulk.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: It did not tell me anything new, uh, and so
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: it didn't tell me anything new. So it didn't excite me.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: It also didn't necessarily turn me off the X Men trailer,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: though it made me less excited. I don't know how
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: they made the X Men that I grew up with
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: and love boring.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: Well, For one thing, Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen are
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: exceedingly old.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: Now yeah, I guess like that doesn't I'm not going
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: to discount them because of their age, like they'll they'll
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: do just fine. But also also so it's it's Patrick
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: Stork and is Patrick Stork Stuart and Ian McKellen as
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: Professor X and Magneto. And then they also show some
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: of Cyclops too, So is Cyclops their baby that Doom
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: is going to kidnap?
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: Well, Cyclops has like you know, they have Cyclops And
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: isn't it Jean Gray have a kid.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: Jean Gray have a baby who becomes I think Cable
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: right who Josh Brolin has played?
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: Right? Wow, that means we can finally get rolling back
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: and everyone's like, oh my god, it's Thanos, Like no, no,
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: that's that's Cyclops's kid.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: But I see if they were going to do that,
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: if they were going to bring back all of the
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: B plot or the bee casting of their of their stars.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: Then Chris Evans would have to be Johnny Storm.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: Again, we already had that though they already did that
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: with Deadpool and Wolverine.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, or dead Pool and Wolverine.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, Well maybe I don't know. I think I
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: think that Johnny Storm is dead dead yeah, But then again,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: no one ever really dies, I guess uh yeah. I
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: Like I said, the lead up to Avengers Doomsday has
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: been kind of a cluster and I'll just leave it
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: at that word leading up because it's just what story
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: are they trying to tell at this point? You know,
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: Like there's no cohesion in the Marvel timeline right now,
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: and I want there to be so badly. I don't
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: want to be one of those people who's on the
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: internet just complaining about Marvel having totally dropped the ball.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: But on the flip side, I can't. I can't draw
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: a strong timeline for what's been going on in the
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: Marvel universe now. To be fair, I've also not seen everything,
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: Like there's still several series on Disney Pluss that I
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: have not watched, and maybe that would make me feel
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: a little better. But on the flip side of that,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of flip sides. I don't know if
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: it's fair to ask an audience to consume that much
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: content in order for you to get meaning out of
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: a big tent pole event. So it's like like if
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: Avengers Doomsday is bringing everybody together, you might be like, Okay,
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: but I'm not excited about anything that's been going on
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: for the last like three or four years, So why
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: is that a big deal?
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm excited about Channing Tatum as Gambit. I am.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: I wasn't, but Deadpool and Wolverine sold me. But they
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: didn't put him in the X Men trailer.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: So well, we didn't get to see anybody else, Like
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: we didn't get to see Beast, see Geen Gray. You know,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: we didn't get to see Keith Urban as night Crawler.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: That's Alan Cummings, I know that one.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: I think I think you'll find.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: That's Jim Cummings, Jim Cummings.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: It's Alan Cumming. He's just singular for Allen Cumming and
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: Jim Cummings is plural.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well it's Jim.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: Nightcrawler.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: Could you imagine winning the Pooh is Nightcrawler?
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: That would be amazing, It would be I mean Jim
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: Jim Cummings though has done He's also done voices for like.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: He was the singing voice for Somebody, wasn't it. Oh,
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: he was a singing voice for like. Oh, he filled
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: in for Jeremy I Irons for Lion King and saying
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: some of Scar's lines when Jeremy Irons couldn't sing because
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: he had strained his voice or something, so they brought
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: Jim Cummings in and he did. He did the rest
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: of it, So like he's got range.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, he was also dark Wing Duck, so but
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: he's not.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: He's not Nightcrawler, neither is Keith Urban.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: Could Dark Wing Duck be Howard the Duck's like evil
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: Universe alter ego.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: I mean Disney owns both, so yes, even Duck is
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: a hero. Anyway, we're not that excited about the Avengers doomsay.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: Maybe we'll change our minds. It is still almost a
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: year out. It comes out December eighteenth, so we've got
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: a long time to go. I hope that once they're
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: done with this teaser stuff that they will chill the
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: heck out for a while, because, like, I don't think
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: that they're gonna convince me that I have to see
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: Avengers Doomsday just by you know, hitting me with more
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: and more teaser.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: I still can't shake the feeling that those teasers mainly
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: exist to try and and lure people into the theater
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: to go and see Avatar again.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: I mean I think so. I think so, And I
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: mean like they also exist to keep the movie top
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: of mind. Right, how many things do we talk about
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: where we're like, oh, I forgot that was happening.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean when it's not coming out until December,
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: you don't really need to do that. I think you
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: start doing that in August. Maybe true.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: Well, you know what will tie all of the Marvel
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: verse together for us?
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: I wonder I wonder Man. What are you talking?
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about wonder Man. Oh, wonder Man Man.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the series. We've talked about wonder Man a few
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: times on this show as well. But we got another trailer,
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: and this one finally confirms that the character wonder the
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: main character who is auditioning to be in a remake
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: of a film called wonder Man, actually has superpowers. Because
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: for the longest time, in these teasers and trailers, there
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: was very little indication that that was the case, and
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: that it may just be about an actor.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but is it am I remembering correctly in the
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: trailer that he is not? They want to make sure
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: that he doesn't have superpowers when.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: They ask, Yeah, he's supposed to sign PaperWorks saying that
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: he is legally bound to tell the truth and that
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: he does not have superpowers. It is he wants that
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: part so bad.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: It is such a weird metal level onion of a
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: TV show that I the trailer did not really clear
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: much up for me beyond what you've already said.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to see this one because the actors
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: have a lot of charisma and it looks it looks
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: like it could be fun. It also looks almost like
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: it could be completely detached from the rest of the
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: Marvel universe, with the exception of the fact that they've
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: got Trevor Slattery in there, who was in Iron Man
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: three and shun shun Chy.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I yeah, it's it is connected because of that,
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: but I don't know how much more beyond that they'll
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: connect it.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It comes out January twenty seventh on Disney Plus.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: This was one that was pushed back a couple of times,
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: so that has some people already a little you know
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: already ready to declare this a failure or a flop.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: I am not. I think that it has the potential
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: to be entertaining and honestly, like like I remember when
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: One Division was coming out, I had no expectation that
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: that would be nearly as good as it was, And
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: it's still it's still my favorite of the Disney Plus
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: streaming Like, apart from that last episode, which I feel
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: doesn't quite stick the landing, it's still my favorite of
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: the streaming series that Disney has released that I have seen.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: Keeping in mind I have not seen all of them.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: I fully agree, and I don't mind overall mar taking
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: its time to tell a good story as long as
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: it's to tell a good story and not to try
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: to salvage a bad story. Yea, there's a difference to me.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, totally. So hopefully we will have more to
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: say about that when we get into say, early February. Well,
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: we talked about hey things I watched, I watch wonder Man.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: If we don't talk about that, then you know it
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: didn't go well.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: I'll I'll have to get Disney Plus again to give
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: it a shot. We also got a teeny teaser for
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: The Muppet Show twenty twenty six.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: Yes, this is a essentially a special for the fiftieth anniversary.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: It's done as an episode of the original Muppet Show
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 2: and has Sabrina Carpenter as the very special guest star.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: And it says that this potentially could lead to a
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: new series of The Muppet Show. And I think that
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: means everyone needs to.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: Watch this, so I'll be getting Disney Plus regardless of
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: whether I want to watch wonderful.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you have Disney Plus, watch this please just
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: for me, Like you don't even have to if you
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: have no interest in the Muppets, just push play, put
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: it on mute, and walk away. But let it play
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: because I need this. I need this so badly. The
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: Muppet Show is one of those formative programs that really
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: help shape my sense of humor when I was a kid,
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: and I still have a deep, deep love for the Muppets,
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: and I would love to see a return of The
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: Muppet Show in proper form where it's not like it's
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: the Muppets but they're in an office like environment, or
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: it's the Muppets but it's just a bunch of disconnected
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: vignettes that are thinly threaded together. I want to see
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: The Muppet Show.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and it's also got well Brian Henson in it,
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: but Seth Rogen's in it. And Yeah, while I don't
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: like all of Seth Rogan's body of work, like I
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: feel like he's got the right kind of sense of
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: humor for the Muppet Show.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: It's funny because I mix up Seth Rogen with Watts's face.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: He was actually in the The Muppet Movie from just
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: a few years ago, and then was also in How
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: I Met Your Mother.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, all of a sudden, I can't remember because you've
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: asked me his name, and How I Met Your Mother
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: is Marshall.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mix up those two actors all the time, right,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: it's just in my head, like just the name Jason Siegel,
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: Jason Siegel, Jason Siegel and Seth Rogen. And it's funny
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: because Jason Siegel was experience, was largely responsible for bringing
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: the Muppets back with the Muppet Movie, and then Seth
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: Rogan is largely responsible for helping this this special get made.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: And uh, it just tells me that both of them,
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: like me, really loved the Muppets as kids. Like that
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: was like one of those comedic influences, and I love
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: seeing people who have established themselves really celebrate the stuff
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: that helped shape them, particularly when it's stuff that also
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: shaped me. So that's why I'm really on board with this.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which makes me very excited about the next thing
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: on our list, because I did love The Muppet Show
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: and I and a bunch of the other spin offs
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: of that Storyteller, Tigle Rock, Same Street, all that, But
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: I also loved Labyrinth, which was another Jim Henson production
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: that really like influenced my love of fantasy growing up, right.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: And it stands up to this day. Yes, Like you
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: can still watch Labyrinth and it's still just as magical
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: as when it first came out.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: There's a tiny bit of like not CGI but overlay
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: imagery at the very beginning.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some green screen stuff that has you know,
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: it just shows the limitations of the technology. But you
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: also have David Bowie doing original songs through the whole thing.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: You have a great kind of dark sense of humor.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: There's a little bit of that grim, fairy tale kind
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: of sensibility, but it doesn't it never it never gets
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: to the point where it feels hopeless or you know,
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: just dark for darkness's sake.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, or like so out of date that it's just
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: unbearably cheesy. Either, right, it really does hold up. And
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: that's why I was delighted to see the little mini
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: film that Magic the Gathering and Jim Henson released for
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: their new expansion, because they use full on Labyrinth style
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: puppets and do this little song and dance number and
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: it's really cute.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: I have got to see this because I ran out
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 2: of time and haven't watched this film yet, and I'm
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: really looking forward to it. I will say that it
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: took me a long time to suss out that big
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: M little T big G is Magic the Gathering, because
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: when I first saw you put that in the Life,
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 2: I thought Mick. I thought it was Mick g mcg
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: as in the film producer and director. I'm like, Mick
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: g and Henson, what the heck is going on?
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's it's for Lorwyn Eclipsed, which is like,
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: there's the light side of the world in the Dark
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: side of the World. It's a little trailer for this
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: Magic the Gathering expansion done by the Jim Henson thing.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: It's like, I say a little it's a three minute
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: and thirty three second short film song. The song is
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: a lot of fun. The puppets are brilliant, It's really cute.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to seeing it.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I wish it were longer.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes you just want to go back and
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: watch Labyrinth again. Yes, yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing that.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: I love seeing the Henson Company being able to indulge
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 2: in fantasy. I still love fantasy films that use lots
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 2: of practical effects and puppets and things like when you
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 2: see something that you know was really there, it just
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 2: adds something to the scene as opposed to something that
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 2: might look incredible, but you know, like in your head,
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 2: even if it's deep deep down, you know, this was
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: an actor talking to a tennis ball on the end
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 2: of a stick. You know.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: Have you have you noticed any of fallouts practical effects,
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: like the difference from them using them as much as possible.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, oh yes, yeah, yeah, no, that comes in.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: I won't spoil it, but that's a big time in
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: the next episode that you have seen it.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: I'm so excited.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: Episode four has some practical effects out the wazoo.
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, it is fun. It is is definitely
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: fun to interact with real things. As an actor, it's
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: also fun to stretch the muscles of imagining your partner,
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: but I get enough of that with self tapes.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: It also means that there's another actor who gets a
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: chance to to really do what they've been training to
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: do for years and years and years, right, because puppeteers
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: are actors too, yes, and so I like to see
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: a puppeteer getting that opportunity. I feel like like a
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: really good puppeteer can imbue life into a character in
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: a way that just it's just really hard to replicate
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 2: that with CGI. I'm not saying you can't do it,
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: because there's some CGI stuff that has moved me as well,
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: but like a truly gifted puppeteer. I've seen puppeteer puppeting
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: shows where like the puppeteer was in full view of
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: the audience, but because of the way they manipulated the character,
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: you just forget that they're there and it's the puppet
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 2: that's the person, and that's amazing.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: Have you seen the clips from the Big Friendly Giant
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: that National Theater has been putting on.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 2: I have not.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: The giant is a puppet and you see the puppeteers
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: because it's just the top half of the giant most
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: of the time on the stage. Get that they're there.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: It is so brilliant. Same thing with the My Neighbor
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: Totoro stage show.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: I want to say that King Kong was similar to
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: King Kong.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Life of Pie.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: Even Young Frankenstein had some of that. Like I did
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: not like the Young Frankenstein stage show, but there was
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: like a giant puppet moment and I was like, Okay,
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 2: this is the one part of this show I like
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: and I love the movie. I just didn't like the
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: stage adaptation.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean like even if you go back to
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: like more simplistic puppets like Lion King, the Lion King
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: on Broadway, how well has.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: That yeh yeah done? Then again, like your first instinct
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: when you see that's kind of like if you ever
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 2: saw cats on stage, Like your first instinct is thinking like, well,
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 2: this looks silly or ridiculous or dumb. But then, like
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: you know, with talented performers, in a heartbeat, you're like,
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 2: oh no, I'm bought in.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. So to be able to have more of
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: that on television, it is, it is such a skill.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: I've done a little bit of puppeteering in my life,
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: and it's hard.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I have not done any like serious puppeteering,
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 2: but I am related to someone who has. And when
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: I see how my sister can take an inanimate object
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: and give it life and to a point where you
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: care about that thing as if it were a real,
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: living creature, it's pretty amazing, especially considering how much i'd
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: hate my sister. No, I'm kidding, that's a joke. As
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 2: a joke, I don't hate my sister.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: I was about to say, what happened? We don't have
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: to talk about.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 2: That later, just your typical sibling rivalry. Next up, I
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 2: mentioned this briefly in our non episode episode that lasted
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: half an hour. We got a trailer for Bridgerton series
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: four or season four, which is just the story of
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 2: Cinderella retold essentially, except with a glove instead of a slipper.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: So what do you think, caryel, We're pretty charming? Is
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: a rake in a cad?
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: So I've watched the previous two three Bridgerton seasons and
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: I've kind of liked them less and less as time
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: has gone on, and this one, like I've not read
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: the books. Actually no, I might have liked season two
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: the best, but I haven't read the books, and I
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: know that the show veers a little bit, but I
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: know that, like this, the main Bridgerton kid son who's
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: the crux of the story this season, is a cad
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: and then does fall in love with this person in
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: the books. But I don't know it just the trailer
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: makes it feel like they set up one thing and
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: then they just completely pivot and forget the one thing
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: and forget who the character was, and then it's Cinderella,
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, why that was very convoluted. I'm sorry.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: As I was watching it, I was just like, at first,
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, this feels like they're drawing a
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 2: lot of inspiration from Cinderella. And as it goes on,
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, wait, no, this is an inspiration. This
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: is just Cinderella. That's what this is. So yeah, it
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 2: comes out January twenty ninth. I've never been a Bridgerton person.
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 2: That's just not I've just never gotten into it, even
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 2: partially because the big event space that's literally across the
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 2: street from where I live. Not just across the street,
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 2: there's also some railroad tracks and stuff. But the big event,
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 2: Space did a big Bridgerton thing that completely screwed up
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 2: traffic in my neighborhood for like a month and a half,
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 2: And meanwhile I'm dodging people in questionable costumes just trying
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 2: to get home. I have a grudge, which is unfair.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 2: I've got an unfair bias against this show. So I
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: don't think I'm going to be watching it, even if
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 2: I didn't already feel like it was just retailling Cinderella.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: I so like, it took me a while because I
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: don't I found the the way that they mixed modern
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: and period period a little jarring just personally. Yeah, it
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: has to be done really well for me to just
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: step into it, And like, I do think that this
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: fourth season will really be the story of how this
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: Bridgerton kid kind of finds somebody that's worth giving up
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: his care free lifestyle for, but not not because of aristocracy,
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: but because of like who this person is. And that's
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: cool and fine. But the trailer, yeah, it was just cinereal.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Comes out January twenty ninth, in case you're curious.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 2: So you know, for those who are big Bridgerton fans,
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 2: I don't don't take my grousing as any sort of
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 2: criticism on you. It's just not for me, that's all.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: Is this next one for you? The Death of Robin Hood?
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know. So there was like a Sean Connery
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 2: movie I can't even remember the title anymore where he
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: played I don't think it was I think it was
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 2: called something else. But there was a Sean Connery movie
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: where he was an aging Robin Hood, and I remember
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 2: it but just being incredibly depressing. And I saw the
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 2: trailer for this, I'm like, oh, it's like it's like
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: they saw that movie and said we can do that,
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: but more so and make Robin Hood go ahead?
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: Are you talking about Robin and Marion from nineteen seventy
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: six with Audrey Hepburn.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 2: Was Audrey Hepburn in that and Shawn he Has.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: Made Marion and he was Robin Hood and Robert Shaw
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: is Sheriff of Nottingham.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I think that's it. Uh yeah, Yeah,
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: that was a rough film and I'm old seventy six.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 2: Hu holy cow, I thought it for sure. It came
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: out in the eighties. But anyway, anyway, yeah, Death of Robinhood,
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 2: it's it's got Hugh Jackman as Robin Hood, and it
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 2: turns out that the real Robin Hood was a much
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 2: more brutal and nasty piece of work than what the
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 2: legends would have you believe. And that's what this trailer
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: is kind of exploring. What did you think about the
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 2: trailer for the Death of Robin Hood.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: First of all, this is no reflection on Hugh Jackman,
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: But for some reason, I keep thinking that it's Mel
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: Gibson in the trailer, which means that it didn't grab
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: me too too much. I mean, like, I love Hugh Jackman,
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: I'm not a huge fan of Mel Gibson anymore, but yeah,
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know it almost so the story is like
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: Robin Hood gets old, Robin Hood gets injured and is
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: being nursed back to health by a mysterious woman who
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: helps him, who makes him like confront his past. And
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know if like it's his daughter grown up,
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: or if it's like a misery situation, or if she's
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: just his therapist, or if.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 2: He's just imagining her while he's.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: Just imagining her. Yeah, I don't know. Like conceptually it
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: could be interesting, but the trailer didn't grab me.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think I would have been more
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: interested in this if we didn't have if it weren't
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 2: for the fact that we've had so many different retellings
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 2: of Robinhood that I almost feel like there's nothing new
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: to say. Like, we've had some really bad retellings of
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: robin Hood in the not too distant past, and some
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 2: of those were even exploring things like what if he
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 2: wasn't such a great guy? And I don't know, I
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: don't know that there's anything new to say or interesting
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: to say. I still think like a fun Robin Hood
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 2: adventure story could be worth filming, you know, just to
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: to make a new version for the current generation. But
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 2: it's clearly hard to do because there's been so many
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 2: bad Robinhood movies and only a couple of good ones,
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: even the ones I like, I'm like, man, that Robinhood
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: movie sure is fun. I just wish there were a
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 2: different actor playing Robinhood.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that has happened. Well, It's like one of those
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: things is like, are you going to try to make
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: robin Hood new and different or are you just going
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: to try to do a really good retelling?
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Like I think we just need a really good retelling, agreed, Yeah,
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 2: put Keith Urban in there and we'll have a really
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 2: good robinhood. Maybe he could be the Sheriff of Nottingham
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 2: and sing all of his stuff?
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: Is this really how you want to start off twenty twenty?
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 2: It's how I want to end this episode. But we
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: still have a couple more to talk about.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Next, we've got Greenland too.
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which is a sequel to Greenland, which I did
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: not see. Did you see the first film?
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: I did not see Greenland. I got it confused with
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: the one where they're coming down off of a mountain
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: like elevation or whatever it was.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 2: Ye have so many that are like this post apocalypse
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: survival kind of movies, Like we've had so many of those,
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 2: Like remember all the horror movies that came out like
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 2: last year that that related to that, where you know
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 2: you needed to be tethered to the house or you
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: and your brother have to go out, Like there was
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: the Nicholas Cage one. There was the one with the
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 2: woman who had sons who you know she told them
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 2: to always be tethered to the house. Like, Yeah, a
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 2: lot of these similar themes.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: Well, and this one, particularly because Marina backern Is stars
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: in Greenland and Greenland too. She was also the star
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: in Elevation, where she was trying to get off of
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: a mountain passed some aliens. That was very like quiet placy.
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 2: Oh so yeah, so she was like the go to
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 2: heroin for these She's also in everything. She's also in
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 2: the So's She's killing it this year too.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: I love her as well.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 2: So yeah, Gerard Butler is also in this. I think
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 2: the so the idea is that there was a comet
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 2: that strikes the earth and destroys most of it, and
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 2: I want to say the first one must take place,
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 2: and like I'm mixing this up. I was going to
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: say in a bunker, but I'm like, no, wait, we
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 2: talked about a movie like three weeks ago, but no,
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 2: there was another movie where it was like a guy
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 2: on a plane that had crashed in the woods and
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 2: you turn, it turns out like he had been sent
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 2: out from a bunker to explore like the ravaged. This
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter. That's not Greenland too. The point is like,
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 2: there's so many of these movies that I can't keep
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 2: them straight anymore. But it is a post apocalyptic film.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 2: The log line is ten years after the Clark Interstellar comet,
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 2: destroyed most of Earth. The Garrity family must leave the
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 2: safety of the Greenland bunker. Okay, so there was a
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 2: bunker and embark on a pair of list journey across
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 2: the wasteland of Europe to find a new home. It
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 2: was originally supposed to come out last Spring, like last March,
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 2: which is not a great sign, and the fact that
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 2: it's been kind of pushed to come out now suggest
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 2: that maybe the studio is burying it. I don't know.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know it. It doesn't it doesn't grab me, Yeah,
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: which is sad because I feel like we have had
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: other comic movies, but the last ones I really remember
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: are Mageddon and Deep Impact, which were years ago.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah those were asteroid movies, to be technical, but I don't.
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: Remember the difference offhand right now.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: Some of them are icy, and some of them are rocky,
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 2: and some of them are rocky hat some of them
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: are Keith Urban, just Keith Urban hurtling through space toward
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 2: the Earth. Uh.
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to get off of this episode and
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: be like, take out all references of Keith Urban, and.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be like, sure I did that. You're
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 2: not gonna listen, So Yeah, I know. Sometimes I think
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 2: I just think there have been so many post apocalyptic
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 2: stories over the last like ten years in particular, that
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 2: it's very hard for me to differentiate them unless there's
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 2: something really interesting that they have to say, or there's
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 2: just like some great actors who are clearly putting in
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 2: fantastic performances. Not to say that Marina Brackeran and Gerard
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 2: Butler aren't great actors, but it's just not enough here.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 2: Maybe if I saw the first film, I'd be feeling
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 2: differently about this, But yeah, I almost feel like there
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 2: needs to be a moratorium on post apocalyptic stories, kind
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 2: of like how I feel that zombies could use a
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 2: long rest before we start seeing a lot of zombie
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 2: stuff again. However, I also understand that some of these
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 2: stories are kind of the way people are processing the
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 2: world around them and sort of trying to deal with
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 2: big concepts in a fictional way to sort of process stuff.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 2: But I don't know, I'm just I've seen so much.
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, how do you feel about Agatha Christie's stories,
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: because we've seen a lot of those too.
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'd feel better if I'd watched the trailer
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 2: for this Jonathan there were two things that I wasn't
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 2: able to get to and this is the second one.
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: I added this one like early though. So there is
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: a series coming out called Agatha Christie's Seven Dials Mystery.
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 1: It's being helmed by Chris Chibnall, who is a doctor
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: who producer, writer, and it looks absolutely darling. There's this
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: younger girl played by oh Lorsh Lord. All of a sudden,
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: I have lost her name. It's no Jonathan, Jonathan, why
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: are you such a butt?
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure the title of this episode is going
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 2: to have to have Keith Urban's name in it.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh my gosh, she is not pulling up on
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: the IMDb.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 2: Hold on, I can tell you while Ariel is looking
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 2: this up that this series comes out on January fifteenth
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 2: on Netflix.
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: Yes. It stars Mia McKenna, Bruce, Helena Bottom Carter and
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: then Martin.
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 2: Freeman I believe, Oh okay.
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and a bunch of other people as well. Alex McQueen.
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: Just a really good cast. It's about this girl who
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: starts investigating a bunch of deaths within a secret society
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: called the Seven Dials. And it's one of those young
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: young lady trying to figure out the miss being told
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: by the her superiors drop it kind of a thing,
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: but it's really charming. Okay, it comes the trailer comes
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: across in a way that is engaging and delightful and
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: draws you in and makes you want to watch the
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 1: story and you like the main character has like immediate charisma.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: There are some trailers, like for Nola Holmes, which I
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 1: haven't watched, that feel very teeny bobbery or feel like
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: it's a harder entry point for me based on just
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: the trailer. This had none of those problems.
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I look forward to watching it like I
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 2: did intend to see it. It's just that I was
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 2: writing down notes and then realize like, oh, I haven't
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 2: seen these two things, but if I were to watch them,
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 2: we'd have to start even later, and we were already
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 2: starting half an hour later than what we had intended.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 2: So that's on me.
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It also has U I'm gonna I did not
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: look up his name how to pronounce it, so I
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: apologize for mispronouncing it. Nabhan One who was.
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 2: Whoa.
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 1: It's a good thing we're at the end of the episode.
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 2: He was.
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: The god of revelry and wine.
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 2: Inis thank you.
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: I was like, Dionysius, No, that's not right.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 2: Either Dionysus or Bacchus, they're the two Diis.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, like I looked at the
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 1: because I wanted to make sure it was him, because
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: he's really good in chaos, and I looked at the
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 1: word Dionysus, and all of a sudden, my brain short
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: circuited and I could no longer read letters.
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 2: I got you, I've been there. I'll need to send
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 2: to you a video that's a series of clips from
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 2: Mischief Theater's movie Night in, which is something that they
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 2: used to do where they would do improvised movies, and
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 2: they did it in the style where the host played
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 2: by Jonathan Sayer I think his character's name was Oscar,
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 2: is presenting a film that he loves to the audience,
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 2: and he's got the remote control so he can pause
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 2: the movie and make commentary. But the movie, quote unquote,
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 2: is just improvisers doing scenes to tell the story, and
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 2: the pausing is mostly for him to be able to
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 2: complain about how they're messing things up or introducing salacious
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 2: or objectionable material into what is supposed to be a
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 2: family friendly story that kind of thing. And the reason
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 2: I bring this up is that in one of their movies,
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 2: it's kind of like a Goony's story. It's a bunch
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 2: of kids getting together to solve a mystery, except it's
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 2: kids plus Dionysus, the god of wine, and it's so funny,
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 2: like one of the ten year olds gets absolutely hammered.
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 1: Good to know you think that childhood drunkenness is funny.
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 2: Now I played by a guy who's in his thirties.
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 2: It's fine.
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get you back for the.
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 2: Dal abuse in Keith Urban.
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm really bad at it. So that sounds
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 1: very funny and I look forward to watching it.
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing this thing for
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 2: seven dials. I do like a good mystery, and this
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 2: sounds like it would be kind of a cozy style
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 2: as opposed to as opposed to something where it's like,
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 2: you know, True Detective or whatever, where you're like, I
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 2: appreciate the work that went into this, but this is
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 2: this is harrowing to watch.
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's It's definitely not that dark, or at
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 1: least it wasn't for me. From the trailer, kind of
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 1: like a little bit more lighthearted, knives out, gotcha?
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 2: Gotcha? Well that is finally it. We are two hours
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 2: through this episode. That's a long way. I think it's
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 2: the longest one we've done so far. We're pretty close
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 2: to it. But we had a lot to catch up
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 2: on the first week of January, wasn't there wasn't a
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 2: whole lot, or the first like couple days of January
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 2: one the whole lot. But man that there's so much
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 2: news that came out like right after that. So we
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 2: look forward to rejoining next week and talking more about
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 2: the crazy stuff what's going on in the world of geekdom.
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 2: But for now, because we have gone so long, I'm
• 2:01:15
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• 2:01:17
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• 2:01:19
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• 2:01:21
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• 2:01:24
  Speaker 1: Now I'm not gonna do.
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 2: That right across from all those people who are dressed
• 2:01:29
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• 2:01:31
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• 2:02:08
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• 2:02:12
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