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035 - Ranchin' around w/ Jared Brown · Here's to You

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  Yo-yo, yo-yo. It's your boy D, the producer
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  extraordinaire of the century. Coming back to you guys.
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  With another episode of Here's To You the podcast, we're taking
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  it out to the wild, Wild West today.
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  Sitting to my left, bringing in the Ye, we've got the famous
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  rancher Fanister McAllister. You said the famous ye, I said.
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  We're. Bringing in the, I said.
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  I said. You're bringing in the Ye.
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  What's the? Yeah.
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  What is that? Ye to the ye ye Haw.
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  From dodge. You're bringing the HA.
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  Emily. Emily's bringing the HA.
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  And bringing the Yee, OK. And you're bringing the?
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  Ha. So then I say Yee.
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  Ha. OK, now let's do that again.
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  Yee ha. Well, guys, don't mind us.
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  Well, you guys, welcome back as you.
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  Yes, yes, welcome back, guys. As you know, Dusty introduced
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  us. I bet you guys missed his voice,
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  his soothing, therapeutic voice. Yeah, the therapeutic.
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  Voice. Therapeutic voice.
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  People think people think he's hot.
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  It's. The sex voice.
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  It's the sex voice. Oh, so, like when So, so when
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  it's like. So like when you are like on top
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  of her and you're like, yeah, is that how it is?
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  I? Thought we were not going on
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  these topics. Right now.
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  I'm sorry. I'm so sorry.
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  If you guys remember from last episode and we just recently got
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  into a relationship. And.
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  We don't speak about that right now.
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  Just feeling it. She's feeling the honeymoon
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  vibes for sure. Yes, Bringing the full U-Haul
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  today. Our special guest.
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  Yes, the one and only Jared Brown of Jared Brown in the
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  dirt. Rd.
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  Misfits. How you feeling today, Jared?
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  I am feeling tired. I'm waking up.
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  Waking up, it's only Thursday. I know it's been a long it's
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  about it's the weekend. I've worked hard this week.
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  Oh. Yeah, yeah, we worked hard up
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  too. Yeah, we did too.
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  Don't worry, we lie on here too. I always speak the truth.
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  Emily's the Realist. I'm the realist 1 here.
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  She's the realist bitch on the blog.
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  We heard Jenny from the block. It's Emily on the block.
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  That's. What I heard.
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  Well, Jerry, thank you for coming to our podcast today.
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  Thank you for having me. Of course, of course.
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  So how did Dusty tell you to come to our podcast again?
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  I got a messenger. They said, does Thursday work?
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  Yeah. Talk about professionality.
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  Based on a conversation, you know, from months ago, I I was
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  like, for what? I don't know.
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  Oh, yeah, we had a conversation on it.
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  As well, what was he talking? I thought he was joking when he
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  said he wanted me on the podcast.
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  You know, as busy folks and you understand as well you know, we
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  have complicated schedules and so I.
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  I expect others to have the same memories.
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  Be and. What?
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  I mean, nobody like you. It's like, yeah, he did say
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  that. So it.
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  Just took a second. Yeah, he took a second.
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  I got it. Guys are so simple.
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  I love it so Thursday. Yeah, that was this morning when
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  he sent it. No.
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  Imagine, Imagine you're like, what's the day?
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  It's Thursday, yeah. So today.
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  Little more. Little more than that, little
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  more time. If that was true, that means I
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  got some pull. That is true.
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  That's true. Either that or I don't have a
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  life. I know this guy.
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  He calls like five days a week. He's got time.
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  Well, I'm glad it worked out because we really wanted you on
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  the podcast. We have been talking about you
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  in our group chat and so we're excited to hear about.
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  Just what you guys are doing with music.
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  I'm going to be real honest. I don't listen to country music.
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  I'm a big country fan. Yeah.
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  So at least so at least you have someone that you're you can try
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  to convert right now and you have someone who's already a fan
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  because right now I kind of. Like almost brought my boots in
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  too. Yeah, we were supposed to wear
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  that. I forgot.
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  About that that's he did tell us, he told us to wear.
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  Our hats and. Boots.
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  Yeah, yeah. Asked if everybody had hats.
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  Not that I have one. I lost mine a long time ago, so
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  I don't have one currently, but I was like, well, they got
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  something. I don't wear them very much.
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  Yeah. Yeah, I just.
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  Don't. Yeah, I think it.
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  Was a cowboy hat. I think most of the times that
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  I've seen you actually perform like.
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  Your OR? Yeah.
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  And I wear chunk clothes a lot. So love that.
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  Yeah, what's hot? You prefer more in the?
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  Hot so, so, so you a summer boy? Yeah, yeah.
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  Flip flop. Flip flop song was so-called.
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  You don't wear that the hanas then?
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  No, no, no. What is that?
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  The hanas are the ones that are made out of fabric.
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  There's. The cowboy hats that are made.
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  Out of the cowboy hats, I'll tell you.
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  Talking about the No, no, no. I can't even wear those in the
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  winter time. Yeah, because I have.
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  I do not have a Yeah. Yeah.
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  That's why I don't wear cowboy hats.
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  I mean, even that straw one is yeah, in that picture.
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  I can't wear hats. So hot I can't.
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  I have a big head, so I don't say it I wasn't.
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  Gonna. Say anything?
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  But I did notice that. It's OK.
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  It's OK. I'm living with it.
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  I'm living with it. Can't.
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  Say that around me you can I'mma make it say the story again if
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  you said. You want me to?
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  I will. I mean if you want to.
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  Just. At the end of the episode, at
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  the end of this episode, I will tell you why I have a big kid.
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  That's good. You're gonna love it.
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  Yeah, I just remembered. Yeah.
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  I can't take her every time, she says.
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  That. That image comes.
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  To mind I can't. Take you.
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  Seriously. Anyways, Jared, let's let's talk
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  about you for a little bit. Are you born and raised in
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  Wichita? No, I'm born.
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  And partly raised in Oklahoma, southeastern Oklahoma.
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  I moved to Wichita in like 88. What part of Oklahoma are you
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  from? I lived in a bunch of towns, SE.
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  It's like Poto you. Know what's funny?
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  I know where Poto is at. No way.
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  Yeah, I know how Oklahoma Poto sold.
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  Cell phone How? Do you know how so?
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  I have family lives in Howe, OK and Poto.
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  Yeah, my. So when you drive to Howe the.
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  The Long Lake resort, Long Lake resort that that was my
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  grandpa's, all that. Oh really?
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  That's cool because it's like, I remember cuz like when you pass
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  Poteau and then like, you have that RV place right next to it.
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  And then his driveway, my, my grandpa's driveway is right at
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  the top of that hill. Take a left and he.
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  Has. That's crazy.
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  Do you know, cuz like there's that a supply shop there too as
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  well, you know, the Royal Field Supply?
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, there man. See, I told.
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  You. I mean, that's.
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  Yeah, that my grandpa's land starts at the.
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  Next intersection. That's crazy.
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  Yeah, cuz my my goddad has a chicken farm out there.
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  Everybody has a chicken. Farm.
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  Everybody has a chicken farm. Those other things.
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  Oh, it's bad. Oh my goodness.
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  When those doors open, you're like, whoosh, What the hell is
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  that? Horse and cow?
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  Yes. And and horses, cuz horse shit
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  after a while also stinks well. You if it's not clear.
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  There's a bunch of chicken in this in this little house.
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  It's, yeah, there's they're 80,000 and one.
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  House. Yeah, in some, I mean, they're
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  30,000 or 80,000. There's like 3 or 4 houses.
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  And it's not the crap, it's the. I mean, it's the it's.
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  It's. Very high ammonia.
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  Oh, Oh yeah. It's worse than like Kappy.
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  Yeah. Damn.
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  Really. OK, that's.
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  Pretty bad, OK? I don't know.
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  You ever shaken a? Have you ever shaken the hand of
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  a chicken catcher? No.
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  Oh boy. What does that what?
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  Well, so they actually, they actually go they, I don't know
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  if they do it this way anymore, but there's guys that.
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  They get out of the truck, they go and they have to catch the
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  chickens and load them up before they go process them.
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  They put like one leg, they put five between each finger and
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  they're holding them like this. And then they go and they put
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  them in the cage and then they go catch more.
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  So they're, you know, they're they're carrying 15 in each
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  hand. And then go.
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  And I mean, their hands are just tore up.
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  Damn. Yeah, it's tough.
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  A tough job. It is.
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  And it's hot too. It's very, very hot.
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  And those houses, dude, they're long.
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  They're like. Oh yeah.
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  Super long. Like, yeah, I don't know, just
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  not the size of this building either.
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  It's like probably too. And not interest bank, but like
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  like. A little more of the other
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  parking lot. Yes, OK.
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  Yeah. Mmhmm.
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  Yeah, yeah, they're long there. There is long.
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  Is that what we're looking at right now, poultry?
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  You looked up, chicken. Catch our hands.
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  You guys should stop what you're doing.
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  Right now and look. Up chicken, Catch our hands on
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  Google so that you can see what we're talking.
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  About it will not disappoint it. Would not.
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  It would. Not you'll find a drumstick on
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  there too. Yeah.
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  So, you know, they pump those full of steroids, so they grow
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  fast and that's. That's why we're all sick here.
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  It's why we're all unhealthy, because everything's pumped full
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  of chemicals. But.
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  So I had a story about when I I used to do in home sales, and
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  this was in Kansas, and I went up to the house.
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  I had an appointment, I went up to the house and the biggest
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  Rottweiler I've ever seen is on a logging chain in the front
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  yard. I mean, this dog's head was
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  massive, his feet were massive and I've seen big dogs.
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  And I just walked up to it, pet it.
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  The lady came running out the door saying no, no, no, don't
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  go. They had him on a.
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  Chain that because it broken everything smaller.
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  So I comment once I get inside about how huge this dog is.
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  I've never seen a Rottweiler that big.
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  I mean it looked like it was busting out of its skin.
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  And she goes, well we just moved here from western Arkansas and
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  we had a chicken farm and so when he was a puppy, you know
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  when they had chickens died, they would just give the raw
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  meat and so this. So the steroids are.
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  Are pretty high level when they're young.
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  You know when the chickens are young, yeah.
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  So this dog was basically eating the steroid eating steroid
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  ridden chicken meat. That dog is buff and suck.
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  Yeah, it was. Damn, what's that say about our
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  bodies, though? Yeah, well, it it reduces later
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  on, you know, I mean, yeah, yeah, they're, I think the life
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  of a chicken is like six weeks or something.
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  They give them so much. Yeah, might be a little longer
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  than that. But anyway, yeah, there's a lot
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  of poultry farms and. Damn.
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  Southeast Oklahoma. So yeah, I moved from there.
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  Nice. Nice.
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  Did not work in the chicken. Oh, you didn't.
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  Work. You don't even have to blink to
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  go to the. Next.
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  But my grandpa did have. He owned the Chicken Hut, which
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  was a restaurant. It was a Pizza Hut franchise,
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  but chicken. In Poto.
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  In poto, yeah. In poto, yeah.
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  Man, I want to go to a chicken Hut.
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  Man, I wish they were still around.
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  I didn't have Kentucky Fried Chicken until I was probably 12
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  because. Chicken had had the best
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  chicken. I always thought it was my
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  grandpa's restaurant and he started it and it was his idea.
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  And then literally like six years ago I was, you know,
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  they're all past now. And and I was talking to some
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  family and found out that no, it was a franchise, it was a Pizza
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  Hut franchise and they decided they wanted to.
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  Start this chicken 1 so it looked just like the old Pizza
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  Huts that had the red roof, but it had a yellow roof and my
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  grandpa was the first franchisee, so he had he had
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  one. There was maybe, I don't know,
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  not very many, but anyway, I but I I never knew that until as an
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  adult, you know? Like my life, my whole life has
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  been. I'm over here telling all my
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  friends my grandpa made this chicken Hut, Yeah.
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  That's crazy. I didn't know that was a thing.
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  So is are they not a thing? Anymore.
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  Oh no no no. His was the 1st and the last one
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  I believe. I mean it like sorry by last I
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  mean he they they all closed and he stayed in and.
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  Yeah, Gotcha. Gotcha.
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  Yeah, it caught fire and and then he.
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  Decided you know, he was about retirement, so he just he
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  closed. It, yeah.
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  You want to hear it kept the building and rented it to a
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  subway. You guys want to hear something
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  funny about chicken? So my brother went to go get
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  chicken for us, fried chicken to church chickens.
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  But he went to the wrong chicken place and he's like, hey, I'm at
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  the wrong church chicken. He's like.
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  He, like, freaked. Out.
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  He freaked out. And then I was like, OK, I was
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  like we'll just get it from there then, you know, like and
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  he's like, well, I ordered like 20 piece chickens and I was
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  like, OK, whoa, just tell him that, you know, can we not, um,
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  you know, if we could get a refund.
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  And then the guy goes, no, I already dropped the chicken and
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  my brother goes, oh, OK And then he calls me and he said.
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  They drop the fucking chicken. They're gonna serve us chicken
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  from the floor. I love it.
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  I was like, no, no, Jaden. I mean, they dropped it in the
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  oil. It's because.
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  It's in the product. He's like.
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  Oh well, this is disgusting. He also didn't trust it because
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  they were playing, they were gambling and.
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  There's a gambling, uh, like, you know, slot those little
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  computer ones. You know, Oh yeah, the legal
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  ones, the legal ones. And he's like, there's
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  cigarettes on the floor, Some guy's playing fucking something
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  on the casino. He's like, this is horrible.
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  At the at the chicken spot. Yeah, it's like a convenience
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  store chicken spot. I bet you they had a tan.
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  In bed too, they. Did.
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  Probably They did. Probably dead they did.
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  And that's why he was like, why am I here?
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  He was, like, freaking out. He was supposed to go to church
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  chicken, church chickens really like 2 buildings down.
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  Yeah, he said. I thought orange and I thought
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  this was church chicken. Wow.
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  Yeah. So between Chicken Hut, Oklahoma
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  shaking the hands of chicken farmers, what music did you grow
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  up listening to? Because, you know, we haven't
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  really introduced the fact that you're an artist too.
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  Yeah, well, so my dad is a Southern Baptist preacher and my
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  mom was the piano player. So I grew up in church listening
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  to Southern gospel music that they loved.
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  And they were like, well, it's just like country now.
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  It's not. But anyway, and and I didn't
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  mind most of it, you know, but that's yeah, I.
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  I had a pretty strict upbringing, you know, in
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  southeast Oklahoma, everybody listens to country and it's
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  still the largest genre. And a lot of people don't
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  realize that, like you're in Wichita and you're in Wichita.
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  And they they say, oh, you can't.
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  They they barely book country bands anywhere in this town.
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  And you know, when I said I wanted to start a country band
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  and they're like, oh, you're never going to play in Old Town,
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  I'm like, that's fine with me. I don't need to play in Old
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  Town. But it's interesting because it
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  is the largest genre. But no bars want country music,
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  which is odd. But yeah, so I I grew up
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  listening to all kinds. I've gravitated towards kind of
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  Hard Rock when I was in high school.
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  You know, the Big Hair Bands and you know, Metallica and Megadeth
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  and Slayer, Anthrax, you know, listen to some of that stuff.
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  But then. Back to country, I actually did
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  two Christian albums years ago and I toured with or didn't tour
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  with, but I played with a pretty well known Christian artist.
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  And yeah, so but never did a bar band until I think we started 7
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  about seven years ago. Oh Dang, yeah, seven years ago.
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  So well into your adulthood. Yeah, well into my 40s, yeah.
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  What made you? Well, then, I'm well now into my
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  40s. Yeah, yeah, but like, what made
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  you make that change later in life?
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  So, you know, I was when you have little kids, it's hard to
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  be out playing the weekends and late at night, and so I just
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  never did it. And then yeah, they got they got
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  older and I was at what's the, the little little bar just South
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  of Kellogg. Rack them up about 7-8 years ago
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  And a buddy of mine from, well, Dan Luce, he's a musician in
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  town. He did a an acoustic jam there
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  and he he was like, hey, come out you know so.
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  I've gone out there a couple of times and I got up on stage and
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  was you know playing some acoustic stuff and this older
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  guy said, hey, can I join you as a bass player?
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  And and so he came up, joined, pulled me outside after we
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  played and said hey, do you have a band?
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  And I was like now and he goes, you need a band.
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  Hey, he pulled a Freddie Mercury on you.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  So he he he was playing in the David Holland band at the time
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  and so bass players Perry overstake.
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  And just one of the best people in the world and and one of the
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  best bass players I've ever played with.
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  And you know he's a Kansas Music Hall of Famer and you know just
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  really, really good guy. And you know when he, when he
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  said he would play in a band with me, I was like okay and it
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  took a little bit to you know. Figure things out and who you
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  know. Who else do we have to play?
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  And I did, volunteering at Oxford Senior living for
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  Dementia and Alzheimer patients in.
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  Oxford, KS. Or Oxford senior living.
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  It's no here in Wichita it's a chain they they specialize in
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  memory care and and so I was volunteering to go and just play
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  music which is a really, really cool thing because you know
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  these people can't. Remember family members names or
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  you know things, but when you sing an old song, like if you
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  pulled out a old Elvis song and started singing, they just they
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  just lighten up. Yeah, I hear that like music for
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  dementia patients and or anyone with memory loss is really,
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  really helpful. Yeah, absolutely.
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  So it was I love doing that and I the the lady that booked me to
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  do that, I was at the one in Derby at the time and she pulled
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  me aside one day and goes, you need to meet my husband.
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  He's a. Electric guitar player and it
• 20:04
  just happened to be like, I don't know, a few weeks after I
• 20:09
  had met Perry and yeah, the rest is history.
• 20:14
  The electric player had a a drummer from a band that had
• 20:19
  just broken up that he had subbed for a few times and he
• 20:23
  was like, well, I think he's, he's going to be looking and you
• 20:26
  know, so when we started we had a, I don't know night.
• 20:31
  He was 19, The drummer. I was 40.
• 20:35
  I think my my guitar player was in his 50s and my bass player
• 20:40
  was in his 60s. So we had, yeah, so we had four
• 20:46
  generations. That's so cool.
• 20:48
  Which which honestly I think has been what made what has made the
• 20:53
  now since the bass or the drummer has left and we have a
• 20:57
  different drummer now but. I think that's what's made the
• 21:01
  band so cool is that we have we have experience and influences
• 21:08
  from. All different generations.
• 21:10
  A lot of, a lot of, well, not not only generations, but genres
• 21:14
  because so Perry is a, you know, country now and has been for the
• 21:19
  last several years. But he was, he was a rocker in
• 21:21
  the 70s, you know. And so, yeah, yeah, he had some.
• 21:25
  Very big hair back in the day, huh?
• 21:27
  Long haired. Yeah, so so yeah, we do.
• 21:32
  You know, when I started the band, I I wanted to, you know,
• 21:36
  one complaint I guess I have about cover bands is that if you
• 21:40
  go listen to a cover band and and this isn't just Wichita,
• 21:44
  this is anywhere you can go listen to 10 cover bands and
• 21:48
  their set lists are going to overlap by 75%.
• 21:52
  It's like all the same songs, just a different band playing.
• 21:56
  And I didn't want to get into that.
• 21:58
  You know, I I wanted to play what I like.
• 22:01
  And, you know, what I like isn't necessarily dance music.
• 22:06
  And so, you know, I was told I wasn't going to get booked.
• 22:09
  And I said, well, you know, we'll see.
• 22:12
  I'm doing it for a fine. It's not.
• 22:14
  I'm not trying to make a living from it.
• 22:15
  So I'm going to play what I want to play.
• 22:17
  Yeah. And it's going to be good.
• 22:19
  And if, if, if they don't want to book us, then they won't book
• 22:22
  us, but somebody will. And so I yeah, so I just learned
• 22:26
  in and I've told bar owners that say, hey, you know, we we want
• 22:29
  somebody to, you know, load up the dance floor.
• 22:31
  Well, the reason they want to load a dance floor up is because
• 22:33
  people drink more and they stay around.
• 22:37
  And I, you know, I'm pretty honest with them.
• 22:39
  I'm not going to load up a dance floor, but people aren't going
• 22:42
  to leave. You know, I mean, I we don't.
• 22:46
  They might, but we don't usually have a problem with people
• 22:50
  leaving. So you know, it's.
• 22:54
  It's accomplishing the same thing.
• 22:55
  You can go and you can listen to a good variety of a lot of
• 22:58
  different music and yeah, that's what we do.
• 23:01
  Yeah. So, so elaborate a little bit.
• 23:04
  I mean, you you honestly like you're leading this whole.
• 23:07
  This whole interview. On it, Yeah, I kind.
• 23:09
  Of which is awesome. I mean, this is your episode.
• 23:11
  Yeah, yeah, We love when that happens.
• 23:13
  We love it. I'm like over here like, OK.
• 23:16
  I'm like in all Like damn. But would you, We were gonna ask
• 23:23
  about your setlist, We were gonna ask like, which country
• 23:26
  songs you choose to cover? What are the factors you
• 23:28
  consider? So can you elaborate a little
• 23:30
  bit more on that? Yeah, I mean, I I.
• 23:35
  Tend to, you know, if I'm going to sing along to a song in the
• 23:38
  car when I'm driving down the road or in the shower or
• 23:41
  whatever, it's a song that I like to listen to.
• 23:44
  And that's one I want to play. You know, I mean it's just
• 23:47
  that's the way it is. I we on our set list, we have
• 23:54
  Johnny Cash. We have Waylon Jennings, we have
• 23:57
  Willie Nelson, George Jones, we have Brooks and Dunn, George
• 24:02
  Strait. Jelly Roll.
• 24:04
  I love George Strait. Yeah, we have Jelly Roll, Stevie
• 24:08
  Wonder, Prince, all of it. I mean, when you go hear us,
• 24:14
  you're going to hear mostly country, but you're going to
• 24:18
  hear a lot of other stuff, too. You might hear some Guns and
• 24:22
  Roses. You might hear Prince.
• 24:24
  You might hear who's the other one?
• 24:27
  Jelly roll post Malone. Oh what?
• 24:32
  That's cool. Yeah.
• 24:32
  So I mean we it's it's a the the probably the biggest compliment
• 24:36
  that I get, the most frequent compliment that I get is they
• 24:41
  love the set list because they they go when they hear stuff
• 24:45
  that they didn't expect to hear. You know like they think oh it's
• 24:50
  a country band and you immediately know I've seen
• 24:53
  country bands before and so I know what songs are going to
• 24:56
  play because they all. Play 70, you know, they cross
• 24:59
  over 75% set list, yeah. And then they hear us and it's
• 25:05
  different. Yeah.
• 25:08
  Would you say a lot of SO is it mostly you or is it the whole
• 25:11
  band that is contributing to the set list or how do you guys
• 25:14
  pick? Yeah, no, they.
• 25:17
  So the other cool thing about our band is that everyone sings
• 25:22
  so. I I'm the main singer and I, you
• 25:26
  know, I probably sing 7580% but everyone takes a song or two or
• 25:34
  three and does the lead on it. So the drummer sings and you
• 25:40
  know they you know, I I like we're playing a gig Saturday
• 25:45
  night private party and you know the guy he likes rock but.
• 25:50
  I'm his buddy. And so we're playing for his
• 25:52
  party. Yeah.
• 25:53
  So we add some rock songs. I send out a text to the group
• 25:56
  and say, hey, any rock songs you guys want to sing?
• 25:59
  Yeah. Let.
• 26:01
  Me know we throw it on. Yeah, yeah.
• 26:03
  I mean, it's definitely a it's a group, group effort, but if I
• 26:09
  want to do a song, we do it. Yeah.
• 26:12
  And so you were saying again like you were like, we may not
• 26:14
  fill up the dance floor, but people are not.
• 26:17
  Going to leave and that goes back to the set.
• 26:19
  Listen. Or like tell us a little bit
• 26:21
  more about that too. Well, I think it's.
• 26:23
  What experience do you create for the crowd?
• 26:25
  I'm I'm not a I I wouldn't consider myself an entertainer
• 26:29
  but we it's a really good band like it's it's a really good
• 26:35
  group of people. It's a solid band it's there's a
• 26:39
  lot of yeah there's just there's a lot of you know I kind of I
• 26:44
  think about it as a as a. A really good movie.
• 26:48
  So this is the what I don't like about a lot of cover bands is
• 26:52
  that they they keep you at a high level all night.
• 26:57
  So the dance floors hop in. It's very electric.
• 27:00
  It's very upbeat. That's cool.
• 27:03
  But the best movies ever written, you laughed, you cried,
• 27:06
  you got scared, you you you experienced all of those
• 27:10
  emotions. And so I I look at music the
• 27:14
  same. The set list the same.
• 27:17
  And a lot of people tell me, well, you do too much slow
• 27:19
  stuff. Well, I mean, yeah, people don't
• 27:22
  leave. Yeah, yeah.
• 27:24
  You're trying to get, yeah, you're trying to get the whole
• 27:26
  vibe. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 27:27
  So I mean that. And that's kind of how I that's
• 27:29
  how I approach it, you know? Like I want a sad song of a
• 27:34
  happy song, a party song, you know?
• 27:38
  And and more than anything, I think that.
• 27:42
  The most important thing is that we do songs that we personally
• 27:47
  enjoy and love. Because if you don't and you can
• 27:50
  tell, so you can tell the bands, you can tell the bands, the
• 27:53
  singers, particularly from a singer, You can tell if they
• 27:57
  like, don't love the song. They're just doing it because
• 28:00
  that's what people go to the dance floor for and there's
• 28:02
  there's no emotion or feeling or anything in it.
• 28:06
  And so I yeah, if it makes me feel something when I hear it,
• 28:09
  then. Yeah, like when Son of a Sinner
• 28:11
  Jelly Roll came out before it was on the radio, I just heard
• 28:15
  it on, you know, iTunes or something.
• 28:17
  And I was like, I was like, man, I I think I had that thing on
• 28:22
  repeat for weeks and then I don't know what, why it took me
• 28:28
  so long to go, ooh, I want to do that song.
• 28:31
  But for some reason, I think just because it wasn't a
• 28:33
  typical, you know, it's like what we would play.
• 28:36
  But yeah, that's how I that's how I choose the music.
• 28:41
  Nice it. It really actually reminds me of
• 28:44
  a lot of my own DJ ING actually. Everything you've been saying.
• 28:48
  Like, I don't. I don't go out and play the Old
• 28:51
  Town clubs and stuff because that's not music.
• 28:54
  I generally enjoy listening to all time and I enjoy playing
• 28:58
  what I want to play and I'm not worried about getting booked
• 29:02
  because I get booked. Yeah, I don't have to try for
• 29:05
  it. It just comes to me and they
• 29:06
  want me to come play what I want to play.
• 29:08
  It's great. As far and and I can attest to
• 29:12
  having personally enjoyed some of your performances and stuff
• 29:16
  like yeah, people don't leave because you're taking them kind
• 29:19
  of on that kind of roller coaster journey throughout the
• 29:21
  night. And even on those like softer,
• 29:26
  more low energy songs, that's a chance for people to chit, chat
• 29:31
  and hang out. That's why they don't leave,
• 29:33
  because you're trying to keep that.
• 29:36
  Energy up at 100 all night. It's Yeah, everyone's gonna get
• 29:38
  tired. Like, you can't have a
• 29:40
  conversation. And sometimes, like, you just
• 29:42
  have a you always have a mix of a crowd.
• 29:43
  Yeah, Yeah. Like you have the crowd that
• 29:45
  wants to go and dance. More like you also have the
• 29:47
  crowd. Always.
• 29:48
  Please anybody. Oh, no.
• 29:50
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
• 29:51
  No. Like I've had bar owners I won't
• 29:53
  name out the bar. We're not gonna do that today,
• 29:55
  but. I mean you've heard if you want
• 29:56
  another shot and. Everything.
• 29:58
  There is one in town. They said, hey, we want to try
• 30:00
  something different, you know, come out, they're they're pretty
• 30:03
  known for. Jazz and Blues and hip hop and
• 30:08
  and you know, kind of not, definitely not country and and
• 30:13
  probably not even rock'n'roll or anything.
• 30:15
  But they're like we we're trying to, you know reach a another
• 30:19
  crowd and let's see if we can see if we can do that.
• 30:23
  And so I get out there and get done with my first set and the
• 30:26
  bar owners like, hey, can you play something different?
• 30:30
  Like, no. I'm a country man.
• 30:32
  I mean that. That.
• 30:34
  And you knew that. Yeah, yeah, you knew that.
• 30:36
  And we brought in 40 people that wouldn't have been here
• 30:38
  otherwise. That is true, you know?
• 30:39
  Yeah. So they know who you guys are.
• 30:41
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 30:42
  So I mean it it's it's a it can be it can be a little hard to
• 30:49
  deal with sometimes you know to kind of get through that
• 30:52
  barrier. But I, you know, I just think if
• 30:56
  you play and you kind of stick to.
• 30:59
  What you love. And don't get me wrong, there's
• 31:01
  a few songs that we've done that I'm like, I probably wouldn't
• 31:05
  have picked them, but, you know, maybe the the band guys really
• 31:08
  love it. And you know, I enjoy.
• 31:11
  I don't play anything that I don't enjoy playing, you know?
• 31:14
  But there there's some songs that I probably wouldn't have
• 31:17
  gone ooh, let's do that song. But you know, the lead guitar
• 31:21
  player, Jan or, you know, Todd or somebody was like, hey, we
• 31:24
  should do this, Okay. Great.
• 31:26
  Yeah, so since like you guys are just basically, you know,
• 31:30
  country do, country music and everything, how do you stay
• 31:34
  balanced and true to what like original, like original country
• 31:39
  music sounds and how do you add your own, like little taste on
• 31:43
  those cover songs? Yeah, so I particularly on the
• 31:48
  old country stuff, I I usually just tell them to not pay
• 31:54
  attention to the recording. Just play it like we want to
• 31:58
  update the sound, you know. And so, and I did that at
• 32:03
  church. I led a church band for 10
• 32:04
  years. And so, you know, the thing that
• 32:07
  people don't realize that aren't, aren't musicians, have
• 32:10
  never been in a studio and all you've done is listen to the
• 32:12
  radio. You don't realize that there's
• 32:15
  eight guitar parts on this song or there's a string section or
• 32:19
  there, you know, there's 80 instruments.
• 32:22
  So, you know, I've done albums and I've got, I've got songs
• 32:25
  that have, you know. 20 instruments on it.
• 32:28
  We can't duplicate that on stage with a four, five piece band.
• 32:32
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so and when you try it
• 32:36
  doesn't sound right and so you'll hear it.
• 32:39
  You can always tell a cover band that's trying to mimic.
• 32:43
  That sound. Mimic the radio sound, yeah.
• 32:46
  And and the the song just doesn't sound right.
• 32:50
  But then there's the other people are like, well, this is
• 32:52
  the way it was recorded or this is the guitar part.
• 32:54
  That's exactly how you have to play it.
• 32:56
  I'm like, yeah, but there's four guitar parts all playing at the
• 32:59
  same time. Which one do you want to play?
• 33:01
  So for me, it's better to go, you know, pretend like you're
• 33:05
  sitting down at a campfire and you just want to start playing a
• 33:07
  song, you know, and and play to your ability, you know, play.
• 33:13
  Just make it your own and. And you know the the great
• 33:17
  thing, I get the pleasure of playing with really, really good
• 33:21
  musicians. I mean the I'm the worst
• 33:23
  musician on the stage. So it I mean it's it's a great
• 33:28
  thing you know. And I can throw out a song last
• 33:30
  minute. We we hardly ever rehearse
• 33:32
  anymore. I text a song I say listen to
• 33:34
  it. We're doing it in this key and
• 33:37
  then we we do it. Um, yeah.
• 33:39
  We might start it and stop it during a sound check or
• 33:42
  something, you know, just to make sure that we're, we know
• 33:44
  how to, yeah, start and end it, but yeah.
• 33:47
  So. I love that, though.
• 33:49
  That sounds that sounds like you're surrounded by a lot of
• 33:51
  talented people. Very.
• 33:53
  And then you guys like work each other very like you basically
• 33:56
  know what's good for all of us. Yeah, you know everybody knows
• 34:00
  how you work or what you like to listen, how you what kind of
• 34:04
  music and. Know what they like and
• 34:07
  everything. Yeah, I mean, I think we
• 34:10
  compliment each other really well.
• 34:12
  And when you've played with them, a group of guys for that
• 34:16
  long, it just kind of comes together like you almost know
• 34:23
  what move they're gonna make or, you know, whatever.
• 34:27
  It's. Yeah, it gets typed quickly.
• 34:31
  Yeah. I guess when we do a new song,
• 34:34
  it doesn't just come together like glue the first time we do
• 34:39
  it. But it doesn't take long, yeah.
• 34:44
  Yeah, share some challenges that you have gone through too as
• 34:47
  well. Music wise.
• 34:50
  Are you talking? About music country.
• 34:52
  Yeah, Or I guess, girlfriend wise.
• 34:55
  Although it sounds like she's kind of perfect.
• 34:57
  She is. Just like challenges you face as
• 35:01
  a country music band. Well, I mean, I think the
• 35:03
  biggest challenges is people don't want to book it.
• 35:06
  You know, like they. There's a lot of country bands
• 35:13
  that I've heard that sound kind of hokey.
• 35:17
  I don't know. Yeah.
• 35:19
  Honky Tonk and I and not Yeah, yeah.
• 35:24
  So and. And I I have friends that play
• 35:27
  in honky tonk bands and that's that's a particular sound and
• 35:30
  they they you know they have an audience for that.
• 35:33
  I I don't like that. I don't like.
• 35:36
  I mean I like some honky tonk but you know the the red dirt
• 35:41
  country stuff that's coming out of Texas now is.
• 35:45
  It's almost, it's like a real edgy honky tonk music and it's
• 35:50
  really cool. It's like they updated this.
• 35:52
  They're using the same sounds and stuff, but they added
• 35:55
  another layer of kind of updated sounds and it.
• 35:58
  Yeah, I listened to one song. I can't remember it, but it has
• 36:04
  some honky tonk kind of. Like theme or sound but they
• 36:08
  have updated the B and like yeah so.
• 36:11
  For like your ignorant crowd like, elaborate more on that.
• 36:14
  What on Honky tonk? Or the red Dirt Honky.
• 36:18
  Well, so the honky tonk stuff is steel guitar and banjo and and a
• 36:29
  lot of it's, I think a lot of what's updated the sound is the
• 36:33
  vocalist. Because they're not singing with
• 36:36
  a real deep Southern twang, you know, they So I think it just
• 36:44
  automatically kind of makes the song sound updated because
• 36:48
  they're not, you know, But it's it's really just a matter, I
• 36:51
  think it's the instrumentation, the style of playing, you know,
• 36:55
  I mean they're you're going to have like, I don't know,
• 36:58
  accordions and you know. Juice harps and spoons and yeah,
• 37:03
  I mean, you start talking about like the bluegrass genre and.
• 37:07
  Yeah, I've I've tried listening to like, the bluegrass genre,
• 37:11
  but I don't know if I could like really get into it sometimes.
• 37:15
  But there's some songs I do like, but I just don't know how
• 37:17
  I feel about it for a little. Bit I'm kind of that way too.
• 37:20
  I'm not. I mean, I hear it like there's a
• 37:22
  lot of genres that are not just not for me.
• 37:25
  Like yeah, yeah, like I love. Blues and I love jazz, but I
• 37:30
  love it for five songs. You know, I can't go listen for
• 37:33
  two hours or you know that. I can't remember the name of
• 37:36
  group. There was a cover group that
• 37:38
  came out that was a bluegrass group and they would take like a
• 37:42
  Dave Matthews album and redo it in all bluegrass.
• 37:48
  And it was so cool. Like it was so cool to to
• 37:51
  listen, you know. And so they were kind of known
• 37:54
  for Okay. Let's take.
• 37:56
  Whoever's hot right now in pop. Music it's like a rap like tried
• 37:59
  to make a country move but make out of a rap song.
• 38:02
  Yeah. And that's a whole nother genre
• 38:04
  now too because there's the the country rap stuff.
• 38:07
  So they, I don't know if they call it like California country.
• 38:11
  Some people call it that. Or like the they'll outlaw
• 38:14
  country. The Yeah, but you you've got
• 38:17
  people like Jelly Roll. I I'm not.
• 38:20
  I don't. I'm horrible with names but
• 38:22
  there's a lot of of those out there now.
• 38:24
  Moonshine bandits. They play at the Wave some and
• 38:27
  they're. That was my first experience of
• 38:29
  going and hearing a live like country rap.
• 38:33
  And it I mean it was. It was really cool, you know?
• 38:37
  So which actually that's how I got turned onto Jelly Roll
• 38:40
  because I was listening to Moonshine Bandits on Spotify.
• 38:43
  And then I'm like, yeah, and then you start getting all these
• 38:46
  suggestions and then I started listening to this.
• 38:48
  But a lot of the true country people don't.
• 38:53
  They don't like the country rap. They don't like what they call
• 38:57
  the bro country, which is like your kind of pop country, you
• 39:01
  know? I mean, and I'm.
• 39:02
  I like it. I just like music.
• 39:04
  Me too. Yeah, I like every type of
• 39:06
  music. I mean, like your screamo music.
• 39:09
  I know. Like I'm probably like 3 songs.
• 39:12
  Don't lie. No, for real.
• 39:13
  I just only know 3. What is it?
• 39:15
  Did you say screamo? Yeah, she said.
• 39:18
  She looked at me and said that. I don't know what that.
• 39:21
  Is I would oh they just screaming.
• 39:23
  Oh yeah. I mean.
• 39:29
  We I will go to like back to our hometown with her.
• 39:32
  Sometimes she play her music. She's like, is this OK?
• 39:35
  I was like, I'm just gonna go sleep, but you can play whatever
• 39:37
  you want. So it sounds like you can sleep
• 39:39
  to it I. Was gonna say you.
• 39:40
  Can it sounds like you could sleep to?
• 39:41
  It I mean, I can sleep through a true life.
• 39:44
  A a true was a true kind. Of Podcast Podcast.
• 39:47
  I'll go sleep to it. I know it's crazy.
• 39:50
  That's that's nothing there's lulling you to sleep with.
• 39:53
  Never. Yeah, exactly.
• 39:55
  Well, they have your voice. You know, so like, it sounds
• 39:58
  just like soothing you just want to sleep to?
• 40:01
  It and then found Fanny on the floor.
• 40:06
  And then she karate chopped to them.
• 40:10
  From the floor. Yeah, from the floor.
• 40:14
  It's a story. It doesn't have to be real.
• 40:18
  I I listen to the unsolved ones, I'll be sleeping.
• 40:21
  I'm like, oh, they they still haven't found them, OK.
• 40:24
  There's still out here. There's still out here.
• 40:26
  It's alright. I have my alarm on.
• 40:29
  Yeah, if the show is called Disappearances, that means they
• 40:31
  haven't been found. It's yeah, yeah, Or, you know,
• 40:34
  Unsolved Mysteries. That's not mysteries.
• 40:36
  Yeah, yeah. It's like we should pay
• 40:38
  attention to that before we start watching it.
• 40:40
  Yeah, but you're like, you're still waiting for it to find out
• 40:42
  what happened. You're like, Oh yeah.
• 40:44
  Yeah, we don't know. Yeah.
• 40:46
  So it's like, damn, you stick like now we're never gonna know.
• 40:50
  Yes, but that's also like when you get really reeled into the
• 40:52
  story, You know, like that you forget.
• 40:55
  Because you wanna know what happens, yeah?
• 40:57
  Yeah, and then you forget. I'm never gonna know what.
• 40:59
  Happened my my favorite podcast, True crime is Serial Killers.
• 41:05
  Yeah, you did. It was funny.
• 41:07
  That one's a good one because they also like.
• 41:10
  We'll go into like the psychology.
• 41:12
  Yes, they're like we're not psychologists, but we've done
• 41:14
  massive research and we're like, so.
• 41:17
  Yeah, she always says that. I love when she says that.
• 41:19
  She's like, I'm not a psychologist, but.
• 41:22
  But yeah. With that, I think it's time for
• 41:24
  us to take a quick break and we'll be right back with the
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• 42:51
  to You The Podcast segment #2 with our special guest Jared
• 42:55
  Brown today. Fanny and Emily here.
• 42:59
  We just had the drinks kind of made-up.
• 43:01
  Emily, what'd you make for us today?
• 43:02
  Well, guys, I made a ready, ready.
• 43:06
  Fuck. We're feeling it.
• 43:10
  I made a Red Dirty Bastard. Now why is a Red?
• 43:15
  Wait, wait, wait. What'd you make again?
• 43:16
  A Red Dirty Bastard. RDB.
• 43:20
  Dirty, Dirty Dan. Well, anyways, guys, so.
• 43:26
  As you know, I am. I got my degree from Amateur
• 43:30
  Bartender School. Amateur University.
• 43:33
  Amateur university. I'm sorry, I had a full ride.
• 43:36
  There it was. She did.
• 43:37
  She really did. She got a full ride.
• 43:38
  Yeah, she she got recruited at one of the bars.
• 43:42
  They said that if you don't pass your classes, you won't make it.
• 43:47
  I went. I passed with flying colors.
• 43:50
  Because I took every shot. I took every shot.
• 43:54
  Every shot that was presented, I every shot was.
• 43:55
  Presented. I took all the extra credit.
• 43:58
  Everything, you know, they were like, hey, we're going to mix
• 44:00
  this to tequila and whiskey, you know, it's like.
• 44:03
  I'll fucking take it. Opportunity obsession.
• 44:06
  I hope that everybody heard that Emily really is a go getter.
• 44:09
  Oh, I told you guys. What would life been like if you
• 44:13
  had not responded to that Craigslist?
• 44:17
  For that. Bartending school.
• 44:18
  You know, that Craigslist ass came up on an ad at Facebook
• 44:22
  market And I was like, this sounds really legit, like, I'm
• 44:24
  gonna do it. I told my parents I was like,
• 44:27
  you know, I'm Asian and I know you want me to be a doctor or a
• 44:30
  lawyer, but I'm gonna fucking go to this amateur school.
• 44:34
  Cool. It's well, it also offered the
• 44:36
  doctorate program. Exactly, yeah.
• 44:38
  And so I do. So she also knows how to treat
• 44:41
  people with alcohol. Yeah, yeah, that's true.
• 44:44
  I'll just, I'll just pour, you know, fucking, you know, vodka
• 44:47
  down that wound of yours, if you need that.
• 44:49
  Or red dirty. Aka, that wound is your heart,
• 44:52
  so I'm gonna help you you. Know what?
• 44:54
  I've done that before. Did it work?
• 44:56
  Vodka on a wound, yeah. Yeah.
• 44:58
  Yeah, then. When they made it to the minor
• 45:01
  yard or whatever they nurse was like, yeah, it's better than
• 45:04
  nothing, I guess. And that's how Emily graduated.
• 45:10
  That is, that's the graduation. That's 1995 you spent.
• 45:15
  That is true. That is true.
• 45:16
  Stage. It was a virtual stage, but she
• 45:18
  did. It.
• 45:19
  I was valedictorian guys. She was.
• 45:21
  She gave a whole. Speech.
• 45:22
  Whole ass speech. On zoom.
• 45:24
  Took all. She took all the shots.
• 45:26
  She did not. She didn't.
• 45:28
  Miss. She might miss.
• 45:29
  I was. I was.
• 45:30
  What's it call? I was a goat.
• 45:32
  I was a 4.0 student, guys. She was the goat.
• 45:34
  She has a goat. But anyways, so to make this
• 45:37
  ready dirt bass. Ready.
• 45:38
  Fuck. Red.
• 45:40
  Red. Dirty Bastard.
• 45:44
  So you guys, you know, on our last episode we had Moscow when
• 45:48
  with Adrian. So I decided like, maybe I
• 45:52
  should do Moscow again. She gave her another.
• 45:55
  Shot I gave another shot you know cuz you know I am that go
• 45:58
  getter anyway so So what you do is you have some, you have your
• 46:03
  moscal and then you have any type of tequila so they is
• 46:06
  preferred to have rest. Podado, shreposado.
• 46:10
  Yeah, something like that. Yes, Desposito.
• 46:17
  So. You, Torito.
• 46:18
  You put at least like 1.5 ounces of mascal, and then you put half
• 46:24
  a ounce of your tequila. Then you have as your old
• 46:30
  fashions. You always have bitters.
• 46:31
  So you know, I decided to do a little.
• 46:34
  Little spicy kind of thing, you know?
• 46:36
  So we got two bitters here. We have an orange, bitter and
• 46:40
  well, how you say this word again, I think.
• 46:41
  It was our aromatic. Aromatic bitters, yes.
• 46:44
  So you put two dashes of each bitters.
• 46:47
  Then you put at least just like a tablespoon of your agave
• 46:50
  syrup. Stir it together over ice.
• 46:54
  Once you stir it, you pour over your.
• 46:56
  Bigger eyes, Your rounder eyes, rounder eyes, and then.
• 47:02
  Don't get a shape in there. Yes.
• 47:04
  Don't forget your orange peel as well, guys, because you know
• 47:06
  fruit, you got a balance life. You know you got a peel and you
• 47:09
  got your fruit, so you got to balance it.
• 47:11
  Yeah. So you just rim put your orange
• 47:14
  peel on the rim, then you just squeeze it because there's
• 47:18
  technically juice and the orange peel or whatever it is.
• 47:23
  You know when you watch a video of it, you see all this mist and
• 47:25
  you're like, and you do it and you're like, what the fuck is
• 47:27
  the mist at? It's no different than when you
• 47:30
  flush a toilet. Something happens.
• 47:32
  Yeah, you don't see it. You really don't see it.
• 47:35
  I have literally told everyone about them, like that's why we
• 47:38
  close the lid to the toilet when we flush.
• 47:40
  I told them I show them a video. I'm like, This is why you don't
• 47:43
  do that. Yeah, Anybody.
• 47:44
  No, But guys are just in there taking their drink with them.
• 47:47
  Oh, and they leave it on top of the fucking on on top of it.
• 47:50
  Yep. They're like, no, it's just
• 47:52
  fine. It's far.
• 47:52
  It's far. From from my drink.
• 47:54
  Well, they got some more. Taste buds in there, that is
• 47:56
  true. But you guys, I've made this
• 47:58
  drink special for our guest. You know, I always make a
• 48:01
  special guest. I always make a special drink
• 48:04
  for our guest. And Jared, this is basically for
• 48:07
  you because it's a red dirty bastard.
• 48:11
  Emily, you are the Haw to my Yee.
• 48:15
  That is correct. Yee Haw.
• 48:22
  Okay, Enough about me guys. I love talking about myself.
• 48:25
  But today, you know, let's talk about somebody.
• 48:27
  Else. So Jared, why did we go with
• 48:30
  whiskey or tequila? What happened there?
• 48:33
  Why is this your drink of choice?
• 48:36
  I just like it. I mean, I yeah, I mean, I drink
• 48:41
  bourbon or tequila usually. And so I love the fact that she
• 48:45
  went with a Old Fashioned. Tequila based, yeah.
• 48:50
  So awesome. So what'd you think of the
• 48:51
  drink? So, everybody.
• 48:52
  Near you. Very, very good.
• 48:53
  Yeah. Very, very good.
• 48:54
  Yes. I heard there's a like a ramen
• 48:57
  place that needs a good bartender.
• 48:59
  Yeah, like I already. I already work three jobs.
• 49:04
  I work 3 jobs already. I don't think I could like, you
• 49:07
  know, I don't think I have patience for that.
• 49:11
  Like we want something. This I was like, well, I don't
• 49:13
  give a fuck. I'm making this, I'm making this
• 49:16
  and you drink it, OK? Like.
• 49:17
  Your personality. You need this shot so you can
• 49:20
  shut the fuck. Up I'll be like there's a tree
• 49:22
  outside. Go.
• 49:23
  Touch that tree, leave whatever your attitudes at and come back
• 49:26
  and you can pick it up after you leave there.
• 49:28
  You. Go anyway.
• 49:33
  So let's talk about you real quick.
• 49:37
  What's your plans for the future?
• 49:39
  Oh, I don't. I don't plan.
• 49:41
  Yeah, I just. Yeah, I don't plan things.
• 49:44
  Yeah. I mean like.
• 49:46
  No, go ahead. No, go ahead, you go ahead.
• 49:48
  No, I just, I kind of do. I kind of just roll with it and
• 49:54
  we've been playing a lot more. I think we had eight or nine
• 50:00
  gigs in June, Dang. And this is just a side gig for
• 50:05
  everybody. Do you have a full time job?
• 50:08
  I do. Well, no, no.
• 50:10
  I mean, so I've been in agriculture and tech.
• 50:14
  Tech for several years and I I kind of hop around startups.
• 50:18
  So I've been with 10 different ag tech startups.
• 50:21
  And I I was working for a company out of Croatia that was
• 50:25
  a farm management software company and they unexpectedly
• 50:30
  let the US team go about 10 months ago.
• 50:33
  And so I've been working as an advisor for two different
• 50:38
  startups and haven't had a paycheck in 10 months.
• 50:40
  So yeah, just get in stock. Yeah, that's awesome.
• 50:44
  Hey, I heard that's the best way to go.
• 50:46
  But it could be if it ever comes to anything, I could.
• 50:48
  I could. I could make $1,000,000 or $10
• 50:52
  million, or I could make nothing.
• 50:53
  Yeah, I had a director and he all he did was talk about stocks
• 50:58
  and he how much he he bought. He's like he wakes up at 5:00
• 51:01
  o'clock in the morning or I think at 4:00 o'clock in the
• 51:02
  morning. He just reads everything and
• 51:04
  sees everything. He's like I I just bought this
• 51:07
  today. I just bought this stock today
• 51:09
  and I'm like. What time you wake up?
• 51:11
  He's like, I'm like up like at 3:00 o'clock in the morning.
• 51:13
  And I'm like, oh, OK, he's like rich, don't sleep.
• 51:18
  Well, yeah, I mean all the all the very wealthy people is like,
• 51:21
  you have to figure out how to make money when you're sleeping.
• 51:23
  Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so that's.
• 51:25
  That's a good. Rule of thumb, I haven't figured
• 51:27
  it out yet, but I mean, it is time to get a job.
• 51:29
  I've been looking, but it's time to start collecting a paycheck.
• 51:32
  But that, hey, the music's paid. You know it's it.
• 51:36
  You do what you. Love and and and I.
• 51:40
  You know, I flip houses on the side too.
• 51:42
  And so I have three jobs too, Emily.
• 51:46
  I want none. We all got our hands in
• 51:50
  different cookie jars, yeah. Fuck, I want none.
• 51:55
  I want to live that bum ass life.
• 51:58
  I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
• 52:00
  But. Do you have any projects coming
• 52:03
  up soon that we be aware of? Well, so, no, not really.
• 52:07
  But we are so my bass player Perry, he wants to play Red
• 52:12
  Rock. Red Rock Canyon.
• 52:15
  Red rocks and. Not the restaurant.
• 52:19
  Amphitheater. Yeah.
• 52:21
  Ooh, that'd be good. So we So, you know, I've never
• 52:25
  really considered doing music full time.
• 52:27
  I had the opportunity in my younger years and I.
• 52:31
  I didn't. I should have.
• 52:32
  I didn't. But few weeks ago his lifelong
• 52:38
  friend was like, hey, Perry wants to play red Rock.
• 52:42
  I'm like, you know, Perry's 70 and he's, he's a badass based
• 52:46
  player, you know, just a cool dude and just a great human
• 52:51
  being. And I got to thinking about it
• 52:53
  and I was like, you know what I mean?
• 52:54
  There's plenty of people that have played red Rock that, you
• 52:58
  know, nobody knew. Three years ago.
• 53:01
  Oh, that is true, yeah. So I sent a text out to the
• 53:04
  band. I said, hey, you know, Perry
• 53:06
  wants to play Red Rock. Only one problem.
• 53:07
  We have to write because we're not going to go be a cover band
• 53:11
  playing at Red Rock. And we, I have originals.
• 53:13
  I mean, I have, you know, a handful.
• 53:16
  Well, I put out two Christian albums.
• 53:18
  I have maybe 1/2 of an album for country, but it was all recorded
• 53:24
  before the band was formed. And so I really haven't written.
• 53:30
  In a while. So, so, so the plan is, is that
• 53:33
  we're meeting every other Tuesday night.
• 53:35
  We're do we're riding and Perry wants to play Red Rock.
• 53:38
  So we're going to figure it out. I I want to play, I I want to
• 53:42
  play Red Rock. It's a great venue.
• 53:45
  It's probably the place that every artist.
• 53:50
  Dreams of. Yeah, Dreams of playing.
• 53:53
  Will it happen? I don't know.
• 53:54
  But I I mean, I I I know one thing.
• 53:57
  I know that we are. Good enough to play Red Rock,
• 54:02
  but whether it happens or not, we'll see.
• 54:04
  But I I think it will and I think he deserves that.
• 54:07
  That's it. It kind of was like my
• 54:09
  challenge, like I could. I don't.
• 54:12
  I'm going to be fine regardless whether I play there or not.
• 54:15
  But for him, I mean he's he's kind of the reason this.
• 54:20
  Things started so. That is so awesome.
• 54:22
  Yeah, so maybe I'm gonna do like a go Fund me campaign or I don't
• 54:24
  know. I should throw the crap out of
• 54:26
  you. I'm not doing a Go Fund Me
• 54:27
  campaign. That was a joke.
• 54:28
  I don't. I don't do that.
• 54:29
  Well, you could share this episode.
• 54:31
  Yes, we'll. Share the episode.
• 54:33
  But we do need, yeah, we need to somehow get to Red Rock.
• 54:35
  So if there's anybody we can open up for, yeah.
• 54:39
  So. That's freaking.
• 54:40
  So tell us a little bit about the writing process and like,
• 54:44
  you guys are not original writers, but you have created
• 54:47
  some original songs. Yeah, I've got.
• 54:49
  So tell us about how. 30 or 40 maybe?
• 54:51
  50 Okay Yeah. So like, maybe is there a
• 54:54
  difference between when you start writing just solo?
• 54:57
  By yourself and then now that you're adding the rest of the.
• 55:00
  Group, I mean I've written for other, I've written with friends
• 55:03
  before but usually I have about 75% of the song done and it's
• 55:06
  like oh I need I need a tweak or whatever and we get together and
• 55:10
  and finish it up. So I don't know like we we had a
• 55:18
  we have our first one in two weeks so.
• 55:22
  I don't know what it's gonna go like.
• 55:24
  I do know that when life is miserable, you write better.
• 55:29
  Yeah. So I told Hazel we've got a
• 55:31
  break up soon. So I haven't written a song
• 55:36
  since we started dating. It was like, really?
• 55:38
  Cool. I think really helps.
• 55:40
  Yeah, Yeah. So we.
• 55:41
  Well. Heartbreak or new like I wrote,
• 55:45
  I think. Two or three great songs, yeah,
• 55:48
  for Hazel, yeah. And you can look them up.
• 55:52
  I mean, there's a couple of good ones and but there's something
• 55:59
  about writing, like you have to be in a strange place.
• 56:02
  Yeah. I don't know if it's a strange
• 56:03
  place, but. It's definitely like if things
• 56:06
  are really bad and you're just down and that's, I mean that's
• 56:09
  really, that's a great country song.
• 56:11
  Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 56:12
  Just lost my dog and my wife and my truck and or you can.
• 56:16
  Make a John Wick movie out of that too, right?
• 56:19
  But yeah, so I I mean it's been it's been tough.
• 56:22
  It's also a discipline though yeah.
• 56:24
  And and my my thing is, is that I've every song for the most
• 56:29
  part that I've written. And I and I've probably written
• 56:33
  50 or so. I'm not, not a ton, but they've
• 56:38
  all, they've all start to finish taking me 10 minutes like it
• 56:43
  comes to me. And I just.
• 56:45
  Yeah, 10 minutes. Like I'm I'm, you know, 10-15
• 56:48
  minutes. I mean, I might refine it from
• 56:50
  the music standpoint, but I I write with a guitar in my hand.
• 56:54
  So I'm I'm, I'm doing the music. And the lyrics all together?
• 56:58
  Yeah, yeah. And I write it, and it's usually
• 57:01
  a very short process. And so you switch.
• 57:05
  To music and set up painting it takes.
• 57:07
  Forever to finish up painting. Yeah, it takes you 10 minutes.
• 57:12
  To do that, Well, there's some people that there's some people
• 57:15
  that's not their process. Like there's people that have
• 57:17
  boxes of papers that they've got a partial and I actually have
• 57:22
  notes in here. That that I write in my phone
• 57:26
  that you know it's a song idea but but what I've learned is if
• 57:31
  I haven't finished that song in 15 minutes it's never gonna
• 57:34
  written. It's done they.
• 57:35
  Let it go. Yeah, I'll let it go.
• 57:37
  I mean I have lyrics in there thinking maybe I'll, you know, I
• 57:40
  I go and I read them and it might spark an idea and then and
• 57:44
  maybe I'll finish it. But like the the lyrics, they
• 57:47
  don't have a melody. They don't have anything.
• 57:49
  They're just words and. But yeah, I kind of give up if
• 57:54
  it's not. Done.
• 57:54
  How do you figure out the melody with the lyrics?
• 58:00
  I mean, I don't know. It just, yeah, I just have a
• 58:02
  guitar in my hand and yeah, I'm kind of tinkering.
• 58:05
  Around playing around, seeing what sounds good, it's kind of
• 58:09
  cuz I just kind of do the same thing when I make my beats and.
• 58:12
  Stuff like I'll just. Play around pushing buttons,
• 58:14
  seeing what sounds good, and then you build off of that.
• 58:18
  And however that kind of inspires, you kind of go from
• 58:21
  there. Yeah, yeah.
• 58:22
  And it's it's pretty much the same way.
• 58:24
  And like like based on what the song's about or like the mood
• 58:29
  I'm in when I'm writing it, it's like that kind of dictates, OK,
• 58:31
  what's the rhythm gonna be like? Or what's?
• 58:34
  The OR like how like how the lips gonna be high pitch or low
• 58:37
  pitch or anything like that. Yeah.
• 58:39
  And it, I mean it's just. It amazes me how like these like
• 58:43
  you as an artist, like you guys make these and dusty as well.
• 58:47
  You guys make these music and it's like, how do you guys put
• 58:50
  it together? Cuz like me, I can't, I can't do
• 58:53
  that. I don't know how to do that.
• 58:55
  But I mean, you guys have a talent like.
• 58:58
  I mean, yeah, I I guess it is. I I just, it's it's funny
• 59:02
  because I think that if I put more planning into it, sometimes
• 59:07
  I thought about this like OK if I plan and I force myself to go
• 59:11
  down in the basement and start writing like I can't sometimes I
• 59:15
  worry that's not going to be good.
• 59:17
  Like, I I feel like it's something that should just come
• 59:19
  to me. But then I think about all the
• 59:21
  great songwriters and I've I've known some really good
• 59:25
  songwriters that, you know, it's it's work.
• 59:29
  Like you they go, they plan, they sit down.
• 59:31
  It's a discipline. They, you know, they write daily
• 59:36
  and so maybe that's the way you should do it.
• 59:38
  That's never the way I've done it.
• 59:41
  But. And and I think the other thing
• 59:44
  is, is that I usually, as I'm writing, I've got the the
• 59:47
  melody, I've got the guitar part because I'm, you know, like I
• 59:50
  said, I have a guitar in my hand, I have a notepad,
• 59:52
  whatever. Sometimes I just use an audio
• 59:54
  file and I just start singing ideas with my guitar into the
• 59:57
  phone and then I write everything down.
• 1:00:00
  But one of the problems I think I have is that I when I do that.
• 1:00:06
  I've already decided what I want that song to sound like in the
• 1:00:08
  studio, you know? Yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:11
  So like, I have like, OK, this will be, you know, I'm thinking
• 1:00:14
  all it's all happening at the same time in my brain.
• 1:00:17
  Yeah, yeah. And I don't know that that's the
• 1:00:20
  best way to do it. But I mean, it's your way,
• 1:00:24
  right? It's so like, it's funny that
• 1:00:26
  you're saying that like you. It's funny how like you'll be
• 1:00:30
  doing it as an outlet at 1st and so you're doing it your way.
• 1:00:34
  And then you become, I don't want to say, serious about it,
• 1:00:36
  because at that point you're still serious about it, because
• 1:00:38
  it's still an outlet for you. And then you start to read up
• 1:00:41
  more on it. You start to discover the greats
• 1:00:44
  or meet people who are great, and you read about how they've
• 1:00:49
  created it in a discipline. And then you think, well, I'm
• 1:00:52
  not doing that. Should I be doing that?
• 1:00:54
  And then you try that and it's not working for you and then
• 1:00:57
  you're like, well, now I'm unhappy too.
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  And then you're like, what should I do?
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  It's so I say that or I relate to that in terms of like I paint
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  and stuff. So a lot of that comes to that
• 1:01:10
  fruition too of like you're just trying to figure out what is
• 1:01:13
  that right balance for you. What does that mean for you and
• 1:01:16
  your stage in life too? And based on whatever other
• 1:01:20
  crazy stuff you got going on in your day-to-day, right?
• 1:01:23
  And what just comes naturally, right?
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  Because at the end of the day, you want to create something
• 1:01:28
  that's good. Yeah, that you can.
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  Be proud of. I think it's just like anything
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  else, like there's I don't know that there is a right or a wrong
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  way when it comes to art, but you can take that beyond art.
• 1:01:43
  Like, I I golf a lot too. And I'm a fairly new golfer.
• 1:01:47
  Just over the last, you know, few years.
• 1:01:50
  I'm trying to learn the game. And you know, it's funny.
• 1:01:52
  You go out and you're on the golf course and good golfers
• 1:01:56
  going, oh, you need to do you need to change this or you need
• 1:02:00
  to put your stance here or do this, that and I.
• 1:02:05
  But then I watch all these really good golfers that I play
• 1:02:08
  with and they all set up on the ball.
• 1:02:10
  Slightly different. They have their way.
• 1:02:13
  And then you've got like the number one golfer in the world
• 1:02:15
  right now, Scotty Scheffler, who, you know, he gets up on the
• 1:02:19
  tee box and when he drives, he swings the club.
• 1:02:23
  His back foot literally lifts off the ground and spins around
• 1:02:26
  completely. Should not ever happen in the
• 1:02:29
  game of golf. And people that saw him hit
• 1:02:32
  early on were like, oh, there's no way this guy's going to be a
• 1:02:35
  pro, but just. But look at him now.
• 1:02:38
  He does it his way. Like, so I think it's, you know,
• 1:02:41
  I think in everything in life there's certain, I think there's
• 1:02:46
  kind of rules, you know, that you should follow.
• 1:02:50
  But those are like, you know, love people, treat people the
• 1:02:53
  way you know you want to be treated.
• 1:02:55
  There's these kind of golden rules.
• 1:02:57
  Outside of that, I think like, I don't think there's like a rule
• 1:03:00
  of success for songwriting or for painting.
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  Or. Golfing or.
• 1:03:06
  Like, I think it's just a discipline.
• 1:03:07
  Like you got to be disciplined in how you do it.
• 1:03:11
  But in art, you know, I think a lot of artists are lazy music
• 1:03:16
  and you know, whatever medium you're using, it's there's a lot
• 1:03:21
  of laziness in it still, but it works.
• 1:03:26
  Yeah, that's lazy. Yeah.
• 1:03:35
  I was trying to figure out where to go from that.
• 1:03:37
  That was that was good though, like, I mean.
• 1:03:39
  We can talk about politics or. Yeah, you.
• 1:03:43
  So. So who'd you vote for?
• 1:03:46
  Kidding. I don't want to know that.
• 1:03:47
  Please don't. It's been a great conversation.
• 1:03:49
  No, it it doesn't matter. I mean, like if I told you, you
• 1:03:52
  would kick me out and it'd be all fine.
• 1:03:54
  So that's the thing about, that's the thing that sucks
• 1:03:56
  about where we're at today in our world.
• 1:03:57
  Is that I you? Know it's hard to find that
• 1:04:00
  middle ground. Or, well, it It shouldn't even
• 1:04:02
  matter. You know, like I like.
• 1:04:05
  I I like the days when everybody had a different opinion and it
• 1:04:10
  was fine and you just kind of go on about your days.
• 1:04:13
  But you know, we we live in a society today now where you know
• 1:04:16
  you've got all this social media is influencing decisions and
• 1:04:20
  everything you. Canceled or you?
• 1:04:21
  Canceled and you're this and you're that and it's like, I
• 1:04:24
  don't like I'm. I'm a very conservative guy.
• 1:04:27
  Like, I I absolutely love what Trump did.
• 1:04:30
  I didn't love him as a president necessarily, because I didn't
• 1:04:33
  think he was very presidential. But like, I I love the ideas.
• 1:04:37
  But then you start talking about all these things like war, you
• 1:04:40
  know, there's all these antiwar. There's a consequence to every
• 1:04:43
  decision you make, you know? And like, like, no, nobody loves
• 1:04:48
  war. Nobody loves fighting, but there
• 1:04:51
  is. There is value in having a
• 1:04:52
  strong military. There's value in having strength
• 1:04:55
  and being able to show that strength.
• 1:04:56
  That doesn't mean we're going to go up and start blowing up
• 1:04:58
  everybody. It just means that in order to
• 1:05:01
  be secure as a society, you have to have that show of strength
• 1:05:06
  that's there, you know. And so it's things like that I,
• 1:05:10
  you know, it's. So I I remember I sent this in
• 1:05:15
  the group chat. There's this organization called
• 1:05:19
  Story Corpse and it's where you get paired with like you, you
• 1:05:24
  write down your your beliefs and your political beliefs as well,
• 1:05:27
  and you get paired with somebody who is opposite of your beliefs.
• 1:05:31
  And then you have an hour long conversation with that.
• 1:05:34
  It was really cool. So I did it right and.
• 1:05:39
  Unfortunately, you couldn't talk about politics.
• 1:05:42
  You couldn't talk about your beliefs.
• 1:05:43
  And then I was like, do I know? Yeah, Yeah.
• 1:05:46
  I was like, do I know that people are people?
• 1:05:47
  Do I know that they have their own experiences and that's what
• 1:05:50
  shaped them? Yes.
• 1:05:51
  I do know that. Like, I get that.
• 1:05:53
  Like, I want to talk about it. I thought I was going to have,
• 1:05:55
  like, a really good conversation with somebody on an opposing
• 1:05:59
  side from what I believed in or what I said by.
• 1:06:02
  And we could just, like, have a really good conversation about
• 1:06:04
  that. Did I ever believe that we were
• 1:06:06
  going to like. Change each other's mind.
• 1:06:07
  Know. Like, it was just going to be a
• 1:06:09
  good, informative talk, right? Because like, there's so much
• 1:06:12
  still. Yeah, there's still so much to
• 1:06:14
  learn from from obviously. Like, I hate to say it that way,
• 1:06:17
  but like the other side quote, UN quote.
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  But there again, because, like, you're looking at it from two
• 1:06:23
  different perspectives. And yeah, I mean, like, we
• 1:06:26
  didn't get a chance to talk about it.
• 1:06:28
  That wasn't really part of what you could do.
• 1:06:29
  And then it was like, that's annoying.
• 1:06:31
  But it was kind of cool, though, because he was also a podcaster.
• 1:06:34
  And then I was like what? We do a podcast too but we drink
• 1:06:37
  on ours. And then it was funny cuz you
• 1:06:39
  could tell the difference of how we were right cuz we were like
• 1:06:42
  his was more of a podcast around similar kind of to our deal, but
• 1:06:48
  his they did make. At a point to not make it
• 1:06:51
  explicit content so that anybody could listen to.
• 1:06:54
  And then we're just more like we're free form in the in the
• 1:06:57
  sense of like we want people to be people, show up as people and
• 1:07:00
  not feel like they have to exactly be, you know, polished
• 1:07:03
  up. You know, because that that was
• 1:07:05
  our thing, at least. Like that was one of our main
• 1:07:07
  things that we just wanted to make sure that we were showing
• 1:07:11
  up intentionally and how someone wanted it like freely and
• 1:07:15
  fluidly be able to show up, right.
• 1:07:18
  Well, I just you just just be yourself and we and we accept
• 1:07:21
  for who you are or what whatever you do like.
• 1:07:25
  We cuss a lot. Because a lot we we're we're all
• 1:07:28
  not perfect. Well, they're.
• 1:07:30
  You know, yeah. And that's the thing.
• 1:07:31
  Like they're they're, I mean how boring would this place be if
• 1:07:34
  everybody was the same and thought the same and expecting?
• 1:07:37
  I mean, I look at like I, I blame for where we are in
• 1:07:40
  society. I blame the microwave.
• 1:07:42
  The microwave tell us more. Well because.
• 1:07:46
  You know, you know. I want to know this microwave.
• 1:07:49
  Yeah, tell us why we should be revolting against this.
• 1:07:51
  Thing. Well, the microwave, if you
• 1:07:53
  think about it, it changed. It made us impatient.
• 1:07:57
  So you used to grow up as a kid and you spent time.
• 1:08:00
  You watched your mom or your dad.
• 1:08:02
  In my case, my dad cooked a lot. My mom cooked a lot too.
• 1:08:05
  But. You know, you watch them prepare
• 1:08:08
  dinner and you know it was it was a family time and you sit
• 1:08:11
  down and you have dinner and and you know it's like anything you
• 1:08:16
  have to work hard towards that takes time, you appreciate more.
• 1:08:21
  And so the microwave came along and all of a sudden people
• 1:08:24
  weren't sitting down at dinner time with their families
• 1:08:27
  anymore, you know, and they they became impatient like everything
• 1:08:31
  needs to happen now and then. You know, like you guys don't
• 1:08:36
  remember this, but the dialup Internet, You know, like.
• 1:08:38
  Oh, I was around for. I.
• 1:08:41
  Was I was? I was.
• 1:08:42
  I was around that. Ass.
• 1:08:44
  OK. They were like 40.
• 1:08:47
  Yeah, I was not well. See, I wasn't allowed on the.
• 1:08:50
  Internet when I was 4. Because we didn't have it.
• 1:08:52
  Did it come out before I was born?
• 1:08:53
  Yes. But also, you're forgetting that
• 1:08:56
  I'm an immigrant family, so we couldn't afford it until a
• 1:08:59
  certain age. Yeah, that comes.
• 1:09:01
  Into play, but I think it. I think it does.
• 1:09:03
  I think it changes. And that that's the thing like I
• 1:09:06
  I think where we we have become in a society, we think we have
• 1:09:10
  such absolute truths in our brain.
• 1:09:12
  Like we think everything's just got to be a certain way.
• 1:09:15
  Like like me, like if somebody came up to you and goes, oh,
• 1:09:18
  it's pride month. Yeah, I don't like that month.
• 1:09:21
  It that doesn't that it's not for any other reason than I
• 1:09:24
  don't it doesn't matter like it like if you're truly love
• 1:09:30
  people, like why do we need. Like like the Valentine's Day
• 1:09:34
  stuff. No, Like, no.
• 1:09:36
  Like any of it. Like, I don't like, I think I
• 1:09:39
  don't like filling out a job application and ask me what race
• 1:09:43
  I am or like, why, Like does it matter?
• 1:09:47
  Like if you're truly not racist, you know, like like, but we're
• 1:09:52
  doing all these things to like stop all these political
• 1:09:54
  problems and you know, racism and and you know, acceptance and
• 1:10:00
  equity and all of this stuff, But why?
• 1:10:03
  Yeah, like if you, if you really like, if you, if you're really
• 1:10:06
  not a racist company, then hey, just ask me qualifications on my
• 1:10:12
  job. Like what?
• 1:10:13
  Why does it matter? Does anybody really care like
• 1:10:16
  what color somebody is? Does anybody care what your
• 1:10:19
  sexual orientation is? I don't care.
• 1:10:22
  I don't care. I don't need a month celebrating
• 1:10:24
  my heterosexuality, and I don't need a month celebrating
• 1:10:27
  anybody's opposite of that or whatever.
• 1:10:29
  I don't care. Like I like people.
• 1:10:32
  And whatever you choose to do, that's fine.
• 1:10:34
  I don't care. And I'm not gonna treat you any
• 1:10:35
  differently regardless. And everybody has a lifestyle.
• 1:10:39
  Like, there's a lifestyle anywhere that I wouldn't choose.
• 1:10:42
  Like there's that's all over the place.
• 1:10:44
  We all have things like, I don't like Coca-Cola or I don't like
• 1:10:48
  my old fashions made with tequila.
• 1:10:50
  Okay. Fine.
• 1:10:51
  Who cares? Yeah, yeah, you know, like.
• 1:10:53
  I mean, I do agree with that. But to add, yeah, if I could.
• 1:11:01
  I think it it or like the reasoning for making a safe a
• 1:11:06
  safer place, I guess, right. A lot of that comes to it
• 1:11:08
  because people who identify as a different way or who were born a
• 1:11:14
  different way too are typically targeted for whatever reason.
• 1:11:20
  And I think a lot of that comes to making it become more
• 1:11:24
  normalized. I wonder.
• 1:11:26
  I do wonder if there becomes a day where.
• 1:11:29
  Maybe Pride Month doesn't exist because it has now become so
• 1:11:33
  normalized that people finally become more accepting, like as
• 1:11:38
  an example. And so then I do agree.
• 1:11:41
  Like, I always have felt like a really weird way when it came
• 1:11:44
  down to like, what race am I or whatever?
• 1:11:47
  But now that I'm on the other side of it in terms of like,
• 1:11:51
  I've gotten the opportunity to be able to interview people for
• 1:11:56
  where I work, you know, stuff like that.
• 1:11:58
  And. I've now seen the impact of not
• 1:12:02
  being intentional about diversifying your your your
• 1:12:06
  group of of employees. To your point, everybody has a
• 1:12:10
  different idea, different ideals, different beliefs,
• 1:12:14
  whatever. And the best organizations, the
• 1:12:17
  best societies, the best places thrive when everyone.
• 1:12:22
  Is able to be free and everyone is able to create their value.
• 1:12:27
  And when you are not intentional about creating that space to
• 1:12:31
  diversify, you unintentionally become and easily Just because
• 1:12:37
  we're human and we crave connection and we crave that
• 1:12:40
  that sense of connection with people that that is ingrained in
• 1:12:43
  our DNA, that is the only way that human, our species survives
• 1:12:47
  is that we are making those connections we tend to look for.
• 1:12:51
  Agreeable people or people who agree with your beliefs.
• 1:12:55
  You don't tend to look for people who don't agree with you,
• 1:12:59
  yeah? And those are the ways and but
• 1:13:01
  that's that's normal though like that like in our attempt to
• 1:13:05
  desegregate in the 50s and 60s like we spent all this time like
• 1:13:11
  trying to force this and then what happens like you segregate
• 1:13:16
  you, you gravitate towards. The people that you're
• 1:13:20
  comfortable with, that you like anyway, so like now like how So
• 1:13:25
  yeah, we might all go to school together but is our is our
• 1:13:30
  country better today. Like it is more divided today
• 1:13:35
  than it's ever been And like we because.
• 1:13:38
  And the reason is, is because we're trying to force it through
• 1:13:41
  law and through regulation through.
• 1:13:44
  All of this rather than just saying hey why don't we just
• 1:13:46
  teach our kids to be decent human beings You know like just
• 1:13:50
  be a good person like hey they look different than you.
• 1:13:53
  They're they're not they they look different and that's okay
• 1:13:57
  like that's fine love like and that's the you see all these
• 1:14:00
  studies they they bring kids out like black kid got a white kid
• 1:14:04
  got a you know all the different color kids and and nobody the
• 1:14:09
  kids don't even notice the difference until an adult.
• 1:14:13
  Shows them and tells them. About Well, there have also been
• 1:14:16
  studies on the other end where they do notice a difference in
• 1:14:19
  terms. Of the ones that were in raised
• 1:14:21
  in a family that. Yeah, or they're like, who is
• 1:14:24
  the prettier child? Go ahead, you can still speak
• 1:14:26
  because Dusty can make it loud. I came.
• 1:14:28
  From a country that I had never seen an African American.
• 1:14:34
  So for 12 years of my life I had never seen.
• 1:14:41
  Anything but anybody that looked like me.
• 1:14:44
  And so when I arrived here and I saw all the different cultures
• 1:14:51
  and people, I was amazed. I was like, wow, you know, so
• 1:14:57
  we're all the same, Yeah. But it was just.
• 1:15:01
  Also I. Or not.
• 1:15:02
  Or not. Yeah.
• 1:15:02
  Yeah, but it becomes when you embrace the fact that.
• 1:15:06
  We are not the same and embracing that, right, Because
• 1:15:09
  that's what you that's what you really appreciate people for
• 1:15:12
  people. Like, I don't.
• 1:15:13
  We don't need to be the same there.
• 1:15:15
  Like this whole equality thing and equity thing.
• 1:15:17
  I don't like, I don't like that. Like why?
• 1:15:19
  If so we're right back to that. If we were all the same how
• 1:15:23
  boring would it be. And but yet we've got
• 1:15:25
  governments trying to push it. Let's it make everybody the
• 1:15:28
  same. No.
• 1:15:29
  Like it. We we have to we have to come
• 1:15:33
  about this naturally. Because if you try to force it,
• 1:15:38
  it's just going to cause even more division.
• 1:15:40
  Now I I think you should prosecute when it's the
• 1:15:46
  opposite, you know. So when when you're when you
• 1:15:49
  have someone in society who is disparaging against someone
• 1:15:53
  because they're different, that should be prosecuted.
• 1:15:56
  It should not. I mean and prosecuting might be
• 1:15:58
  a too big of a war. Trying to say like a bad thing
• 1:16:02
  like. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:16:02
  Like, yeah, there should be. I mean, there's a like.
• 1:16:05
  We don't. We don't want to allow that kind
• 1:16:06
  of behavior. But but we don't need to like,
• 1:16:10
  try to. You can't force, you can't force
• 1:16:14
  good behavior. Just teach kids to start young.
• 1:16:17
  Like be just be good people. So how do you do it for older
• 1:16:21
  people? Like, I don't struggle on that
• 1:16:24
  though, you know? Like that's the thing you can't
• 1:16:25
  change people. That's.
• 1:16:26
  And that's the whole problem with how we're trying to run
• 1:16:29
  society now is we're we're concentrating on.
• 1:16:33
  On setting laws to change other people's behavior.
• 1:16:37
  And if you like, if you think like of psychology, if you draw
• 1:16:40
  a line down the middle of a page, you're on one side and
• 1:16:43
  everybody else is on the other. The only thing that you can
• 1:16:46
  control and have any influence on is the thing that's on your
• 1:16:49
  side of that line that's you like.
• 1:16:52
  And so anytime you're doing anything in life that crosses
• 1:16:55
  that line and goes to the other side, you're you're doing
• 1:17:00
  something that. You're never going to succeed at
• 1:17:04
  you because you can't change the behavior of somebody else.
• 1:17:08
  I'm not responsible for your happiness.
• 1:17:10
  I'm not responsible for your bad mood.
• 1:17:12
  I'm not responsible for anything.
• 1:17:14
  Like I can be the biggest jerk on the planet.
• 1:17:18
  That. That shit that you get to choose
• 1:17:21
  whether that affects you or not, you know, like it's so and but
• 1:17:25
  our governments like trying to control everything.
• 1:17:28
  Here's a great example of it. I'm I'm going like way off on a
• 1:17:30
  Tanger. Right now.
• 1:17:32
  I like it. We're going to, we're going to
• 1:17:34
  be adding this as a bonus. Yeah, so, so the so the, the
• 1:17:38
  great. The funny thing is, is we I went
• 1:17:41
  to El Salvador with Hazel. That's where she's from.
• 1:17:45
  And I think our first time was almost seven years ago, like, so
• 1:17:50
  that was my first time going there.
• 1:17:53
  And there was something. I didn't notice it right away.
• 1:17:57
  But San Salvador is a pretty big city.
• 1:17:59
  I think four or five million, maybe 6 million.
• 1:18:01
  I think the whole country is 6 and a half million or something
• 1:18:04
  like that. Yeah.
• 1:18:06
  Yeah. And and so it's a big city.
• 1:18:09
  And then the roads are near. I drive an F-154 truck.
• 1:18:11
  You can't. I mean, you can drive it down
• 1:18:14
  there, but your mirror's knocked off.
• 1:18:15
  You know, like. You're breaking cars.
• 1:18:18
  You're killing. Oh yeah.
• 1:18:20
  Like the your your tires are getting scratched, yeah.
• 1:18:22
  Absolutely. The rims are the.
• 1:18:24
  Rims are done. But I so, so I was there six
• 1:18:28
  years, 6-7 years ago we went and and we were there for I think
• 1:18:32
  1312 or 1314 days, almost two weeks and I didn't realize it
• 1:18:38
  until. We were driving to the airport
• 1:18:41
  to leave. It was at 4:00 in the morning.
• 1:18:46
  Her dad was driving. No.
• 1:18:48
  We we. And there was a car wrecked.
• 1:18:51
  And it was the first wreck we'd seen.
• 1:18:52
  And I we were, she was like, that was the first wreck we've
• 1:18:55
  seen. Yeah.
• 1:18:56
  And I was like, that is weird. Like no one wrecks.
• 1:19:00
  No one wrecks. You don't see car wrecks like
• 1:19:04
  you can't drive across Wichita. You can't drive in Wichita for
• 1:19:09
  10 minutes without seeing a Fender Bender or a wreck and she
• 1:19:12
  laughs at it like Hazel laughed all the time, constantly.
• 1:19:16
  So I developed this theory that they don't wreck there because
• 1:19:25
  they don't try to over protect people.
• 1:19:28
  They don't have, they don't over protect you.
• 1:19:31
  If you cross the street and you get hit by a car, that is your
• 1:19:34
  fault. It's not the car's fault.
• 1:19:36
  The street is the car's property.
• 1:19:40
  That's their place to drive. They're not distracted.
• 1:19:44
  No. Like they're saying like no, no.
• 1:19:46
  And that's exactly what I'm saying.
• 1:19:48
  They're they. They know so here in the US,
• 1:19:51
  like everybody, somebody else. Right away we have it the.
• 1:19:55
  It's always somebody else's fault.
• 1:19:56
  Yeah, it's always somebody else's fault in the US down
• 1:20:00
  there. If if if you go and you walk
• 1:20:02
  across the street, you cross and you don't pay attention, you get
• 1:20:06
  hit. They're just going to drag your
• 1:20:07
  body off to the side. Sorry, that's your fault.
• 1:20:10
  Because. Nobody's getting sued for it.
• 1:20:12
  You're not going to go to jail for it because you chose to
• 1:20:16
  cross the road. And get And you didn't pay
• 1:20:19
  attention. That's your fault.
• 1:20:21
  But then you talk about not respecting human lives.
• 1:20:25
  No, no, no, no. Like that's not so the dragging
• 1:20:28
  a body off side of that's not that.
• 1:20:29
  Was that is kind of true? That was, that was a joke.
• 1:20:33
  In in in my country, in Laos, it's the same way too, because
• 1:20:37
  like there there's like people in like, you know what's it
• 1:20:41
  called like mopeds and they in mopeds and bigger cars and
• 1:20:44
  everything and they're sharing that road.
• 1:20:47
  Yeah, you They're not distracted because they can't afford a
• 1:20:50
  phone. They can't afford like all this
• 1:20:53
  stuff, you know what I mean? So you have to be careful.
• 1:20:55
  Well, and they have phones there.
• 1:20:56
  I mean, they have. But like, they're not like
• 1:20:59
  texting, texting or anything, you know?
• 1:21:01
  But down there, so down there, you everybody's paying
• 1:21:04
  attention. Yeah.
• 1:21:05
  And that doesn't mean that somebody doesn't have a phone in
• 1:21:08
  their hand. But here we, I believe that the
• 1:21:11
  US has gotten to the point that. We we feel like we are always
• 1:21:17
  protected. There's stoplights like down
• 1:21:20
  there. There's not even a lot of
• 1:21:21
  stoplights. It's a lot of, it's a lot of
• 1:21:24
  roundabouts. Yeah, roundabouts A.
• 1:21:26
  Lot of stuff like that. And I mean it's and it it looks
• 1:21:29
  like complete payoffs when people are driving, yeah, but
• 1:21:32
  they don't wreck. And there's only like ones one
• 1:21:35
  stoplight. Yeah, but see then how like I
• 1:21:39
  started by Lord has a shit ton of other issues.
• 1:21:43
  Like we're not going to gloss over that.
• 1:21:45
  Either no it. Doesn't and it.
• 1:21:46
  Did six years ago. Yeah.
• 1:21:47
  And if we compare El Salvador to the US in terms of economy, in
• 1:21:53
  terms of safety. It's safer today than anywhere,
• 1:21:56
  any major city in the US, El Salvador.
• 1:21:58
  Really. And so like what I'm saying is
• 1:22:00
  like it is just so crazy seeing all the differences between all
• 1:22:04
  the countries. I think Finland is still the
• 1:22:07
  number one country or something like that in the world, I think.
• 1:22:10
  It was like, I don't know, that was a couple of years ago that I
• 1:22:13
  looked at that, but it is just just so crazy, the differences
• 1:22:17
  between countries. Like I was having the same
• 1:22:20
  conversation with somebody that just yesterday too.
• 1:22:23
  We were talking about how in Mexico, for instance, like water
• 1:22:29
  and electricity are considered basic human rights.
• 1:22:33
  So here if you don't pay your water or electricity bill, you
• 1:22:37
  get it turned off, right? In Mexico, if you don't pay the
• 1:22:41
  water and electricity bill, you don't pay it.
• 1:22:44
  That's it. Like you should pay.
• 1:22:46
  You should pay once a year. But tons of people go without
• 1:22:50
  paying and it's fine. Nobody gets it shut off because
• 1:22:53
  it's a basic human right. And then like you come to the
• 1:22:56
  States and that's so different. And then you also look at Mexico
• 1:23:01
  as a country. And I mean they have a lot of
• 1:23:04
  other. Issues.
• 1:23:05
  They got some stuff right and it's just so crazy to see the
• 1:23:09
  different disparities between all the countries.
• 1:23:12
  Like, it's like you might have something good, but then you got
• 1:23:15
  something else that's not good. Yeah, well, and.
• 1:23:18
  That's like, how do you how do you like, yeah, it's like, how
• 1:23:20
  do you like find that, right? Balance and that and that that's
• 1:23:24
  The thing is is like it. I think we spend too much time
• 1:23:28
  worrying about that like like if if we just all spent that time.
• 1:23:33
  Each individually, just being good people like all the a lot
• 1:23:36
  of that stuff would just come natural.
• 1:23:38
  But we're spending we've got activists and organizations
• 1:23:41
  trying to force their opinions and their ideas down society's
• 1:23:46
  throats and and in reality like there's.
• 1:23:49
  There's only a handful of things in life that really matter, you
• 1:23:53
  know, Like, we need food, we need water.
• 1:23:55
  You know, Love's a pretty cool thing.
• 1:23:57
  Like, I mean, there's there's. Well, also, like if we go back
• 1:24:00
  down to psychology, that's what it is.
• 1:24:02
  Like if we go to Maslow's hierarchy of needs, those are
• 1:24:05
  the things that we need to be focusing on.
• 1:24:07
  Yeah, yeah. And love and shelter and safety,
• 1:24:10
  food. Well, and and religion.
• 1:24:14
  I mean, like, so I grew up. I grew up Christian.
• 1:24:16
  I'm still Christian. I'm a believer.
• 1:24:18
  But the The thing is, is that like like there's people that
• 1:24:23
  have like such a strong antichristianity viewpoint.
• 1:24:27
  And I and I never really understood that because I mean,
• 1:24:30
  you trust me. There's a lot of really crappy
• 1:24:32
  Christians, horrible human beings out there.
• 1:24:35
  Like just poor people. Like just people that I.
• 1:24:38
  Would never want to leave my kids around.
• 1:24:41
  I mean, but, but that can be said for any group of anybody
• 1:24:45
  like. But The thing is, is like how
• 1:24:48
  could you be against something that you know, the basic, you
• 1:24:52
  know, fundamental thing is, you know, the 10 commands.
• 1:24:55
  So they're all pretty. I don't think anybody disagrees
• 1:24:58
  with it. You know, like we do these good
• 1:25:00
  things and we treat people how we want to be.
• 1:25:03
  Treated and we, you know, we don't steal and we don't covet
• 1:25:05
  somebody else's wife. And we like these are not bad
• 1:25:08
  rules. It's just a lot of the people
• 1:25:10
  that practice them or crappy people, you know, and so they've
• 1:25:13
  kind of ruined it for for a lot of the people.
• 1:25:17
  But I I think that we got away from, you know, I think religion
• 1:25:21
  was a huge piece of of America and now everybody's like, oh, I
• 1:25:26
  don't want to, but you know what?
• 1:25:28
  Everybody has their religion. And like, whether it's a God
• 1:25:32
  they pray to or what, there's something they worship.
• 1:25:36
  Yeah, it could be TikTok. I don't know.
• 1:25:38
  But yeah, speaking there's, well, you know, that's a great
• 1:25:43
  conversation. So we're gonna.
• 1:25:45
  We're gonna go to the next. I'm gonna cut you off right now.
• 1:25:48
  You should. You should.
• 1:25:50
  I mean, we could go on and on and on because we're a great.
• 1:25:53
  You didn't know you were recording 6 podcasts tonight?
• 1:25:56
  That's what we're doing exactly. So Dusty's gonna ask you some
• 1:26:00
  lightning round questions. So we do this at the every end
• 1:26:03
  of our podcast. You started off like, well,
• 1:26:05
  lightning round time it's. I need lightning.
• 1:26:10
  I'll start it. I'll start it while you do that,
• 1:26:12
  then I'll start it while you do that, then.
• 1:26:15
  So the lightning round is a fun portion that we started to add
• 1:26:18
  at the end of the every episode. So it's just it's meant to be
• 1:26:21
  like these quick type of questions.
• 1:26:23
  You're going to tell us what you think and they're fun and you're
• 1:26:27
  going to tell us why. And then we're going to move on
• 1:26:30
  to the next question. So that's what Lightning round
• 1:26:32
  is. So first question.
• 1:26:35
  If you could have any superpower, what would it be and
• 1:26:38
  why we? Don't.
• 1:26:42
  Put a lot of thought into these are kind of fun.
• 1:26:44
  OK. Superpower, what would it be?
• 1:26:47
  You just want a mascal, right? Yeah.
• 1:26:49
  OK, that's all you only part of Mascal and.
• 1:26:52
  Nigerian, that's what he said with ice, I think.
• 1:26:54
  I wanted. Something too.
• 1:26:55
  You want some? He wanted only Mascal, too,
• 1:26:57
  apparently. OK, I'm kidding.
• 1:27:01
  I don't know what you. Wanted what you want in turn
• 1:27:04
  same. The ability to forget.
• 1:27:07
  The ability to forget. OK, tell us why.
• 1:27:10
  Well, I don't know. Like, I think a lot of your
• 1:27:12
  problems come from like hanging on to things that happened in
• 1:27:16
  the past or and they could be good, they could be bad.
• 1:27:18
  But like, yeah, like to forget and move on.
• 1:27:22
  Like almost like start from scratch every time.
• 1:27:24
  Yeah, like if I. Chose to.
• 1:27:27
  Like I don't wanna just forget everything, cuz there's certain
• 1:27:30
  things I wanna. You're like, I don't want
• 1:27:31
  dementia. I'm not choosing to have
• 1:27:33
  dementia. Right, I already have that
• 1:27:35
  enough, like I literally have to use an iPad when I perform cuz I
• 1:27:38
  can't remember the songs that I write.
• 1:27:40
  Yeah, Okay. So choosing Got It Okay.
• 1:27:43
  What is your favorite song to perform live?
• 1:27:46
  Right now it is. So there, so now I'm kind of
• 1:27:51
  tossed because I love Son of A Sinner Jelly Roll, but we just
• 1:27:59
  started doing the Tyler Childers song Feathered Indians, and I
• 1:28:06
  really like doing that one too. And it it's completely two
• 1:28:10
  totally different types of songs.
• 1:28:12
  But yeah, it does change though. What conspiracy theory do you
• 1:28:17
  believe in? I think there's, I think there's
• 1:28:21
  life outside of Earth now. I think we're super arrogant to
• 1:28:25
  think that we're the only ones here.
• 1:28:27
  Like, are you kidding me? Like.
• 1:28:29
  I think the same way. Have you heard the, uh, recent
• 1:28:31
  news that has been coming out? What's?
• 1:28:34
  The. Recent news What's on the the
• 1:28:35
  one in? The the like, the like,
• 1:28:37
  whistleblower dude that has been like, he's like, uh, you know,
• 1:28:41
  the government's got like 12UFO spaceships and they have alien
• 1:28:45
  bodies. Yeah, yeah, they've had.
• 1:28:46
  Bodies for years. There's.
• 1:28:48
  Yeah, yeah. Didn't you guys hear that the
• 1:28:50
  microwaves are aliens, Are alien technology?
• 1:28:54
  I think they are I. Yeah, like that.
• 1:28:56
  There's like a whole conspiracy theory around that, too, that
• 1:29:00
  microwaves are alien technology. Well, and like the whole.
• 1:29:02
  Like the birds I was. A long time ago The what?
• 1:29:05
  The Birds bird. Birds are just like birds.
• 1:29:08
  Are. The spine.
• 1:29:08
  The spine. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:29:11
  I mean, that one's kind of cool. I love.
• 1:29:12
  I love. I love birds.
• 1:29:14
  But, you know, sometimes I'm like, wait, dude, what do you.
• 1:29:17
  Yeah. Are you?
• 1:29:17
  What are you? Yeah.
• 1:29:19
  Yeah, why the fuck are you flying?
• 1:29:20
  You keep. Coming over here and looking
• 1:29:22
  funny at me and like, OK, what are you recording right now?
• 1:29:25
  Yeah. Have you ever ran into any owls?
• 1:29:27
  Hazel stopped doing that. No, I have, I have, I actually
• 1:29:32
  held, held a little baby. Yeah.
• 1:29:35
  One got this was a long time ago.
• 1:29:38
  But they're they're interesting creatures.
• 1:29:40
  Yeah. Yeah, I believe mermaids are
• 1:29:43
  real. Do what?
• 1:29:44
  I believe mermaids are real. That's my favorite conspiracy
• 1:29:46
  theory that I believe in. I mean.
• 1:29:48
  Mermaids. Yeah.
• 1:29:49
  No, not pretty mermaid. You have the hair for.
• 1:29:51
  It scary. Oh, thank you.
• 1:29:53
  Thank you. No, no, scary gross.
• 1:29:57
  Like the ones that you see on the Tik Toks and they're like we
• 1:30:00
  just saw this crawler up, it's like this like alien looking
• 1:30:03
  mermaid, yeah. We have some alien looking type
• 1:30:06
  fish. No not.
• 1:30:07
  A hot. Mermaid.
• 1:30:09
  Yeah, not a hot mermaid. That's not real.
• 1:30:13
  Who is your favorite singer of all time?
• 1:30:22
  Himself. Luciano Pavarotti.
• 1:30:24
  Yeah. I I mean, I think like as far as
• 1:30:27
  like a vocal like, you know, I don't know, for vocal power and
• 1:30:32
  all of that. Yeah, Yeah.
• 1:30:34
  OK, if you could switch lives with anyone for a day, who would
• 1:30:39
  it be and why? Reagan.
• 1:30:40
  Ronald Reagan? Yeah, OK, tell us why.
• 1:30:43
  I I don't know. I just think it'd be cool.
• 1:30:45
  Like he was an actor. He's president.
• 1:30:50
  He knew if there was aliens or not.
• 1:30:52
  Yeah, that's true. He came back to that.
• 1:30:54
  Yeah, a lot of that stuff started there with like all the
• 1:30:56
  microwave stuff, Good jokes. Yeah, he had great jokes.
• 1:31:00
  Like, the best jokes of any president.
• 1:31:02
  No, So totally. Go on YouTube and Google.
• 1:31:05
  Just Ronald Reagan jokes. The dude was like.
• 1:31:10
  Audience captivator, Yes. Whether it regardless of whether
• 1:31:14
  you agree with politics or whatever like that, you cannot
• 1:31:17
  deny that he was like. Here's charismatic.
• 1:31:19
  He was so witty too. Like just.
• 1:31:22
  Yeah. Anyway, so as it turns out, I
• 1:31:24
  can be president of the United. States, Yes, you can.
• 1:31:26
  I'm. Fucking leaving.
• 1:31:33
  All right, what's the most adventurous thing you've ever
• 1:31:35
  done? When I was in New Zealand in
• 1:31:39
  2000, I was in Queenstown and it was the place where they
• 1:31:49
  commercialized bungee jumping. So it was the 1st place that
• 1:31:53
  like actually did it as a sport like you.
• 1:31:57
  And so I'm terrified of heights and my buddy like.
• 1:32:03
  I don't know what word he used, but basically called me a
• 1:32:05
  chicken. Yeah, yeah, he called you a
• 1:32:06
  pussy. I don't even know if it was
• 1:32:08
  that. I can't, I can't remember
• 1:32:10
  recall. But whatever it was, it was
• 1:32:12
  like, I've got to do this now, you know.
• 1:32:14
  So I bungee jumped. That's scary.
• 1:32:17
  And and it was, it was a Blizzard like they it didn't
• 1:32:22
  start snowing until about 5 minutes before I was out there.
• 1:32:27
  And it was coming down so hard. My sweat.
• 1:32:33
  I had a sweat kind of a sweatshirt on and it was, it was
• 1:32:38
  a wet snow and it was starting to get colder and starting to
• 1:32:43
  freeze. But my my sweater was soaked.
• 1:32:45
  And then you go up on this metal platform and as soon as I
• 1:32:48
  stepped on it, my foot slips and I'm like.
• 1:32:51
  I'm, you know, I'm like 150 or 160 feet over a river, like a
• 1:32:56
  roaring river. You know.
• 1:32:58
  Like, and yeah, so anyway. But it was also one of the
• 1:33:03
  coolest things ever did. But I was terror.
• 1:33:05
  I was, so I was oh. Yeah, Bungie jumping is like
• 1:33:08
  where you bounce back up, right? Oh yeah, and so so here's the
• 1:33:12
  thing. There was this little blow up
• 1:33:13
  like. Raft down there with a guy had
• 1:33:16
  this long PVC pole and his job was to get because I'm I'm doing
• 1:33:20
  it over a river. So his job is to get you you
• 1:33:23
  know once you stop bouncing get you off of the bungee and all
• 1:33:26
  this and so I'm already free. I mean I'm like I feel like I'm
• 1:33:29
  getting ready to die. I.
• 1:33:31
  Mean it was. Hypothermia setting in freezing
• 1:33:34
  and I'm pretty wet and I get. I get down into the raft, yeah,
• 1:33:40
  sorry. I get down into the raft and he
• 1:33:42
  goes, so I'm, I'm down and he goes, okay, you can, you need to
• 1:33:47
  lay back now. And so I lay back and the raft
• 1:33:51
  has like 4 inches of freezing water in the bottom.
• 1:33:56
  Of it. You're like, I'm not gonna get
• 1:33:57
  fucking. Warmed.
• 1:33:58
  I was soaked. So I literally, I'm walking like
• 1:34:02
  it's a mile or so up this like winding path to get back up to
• 1:34:07
  the top. And I had my shirt.
• 1:34:09
  I took my shirt off because I was soaking wet and I was
• 1:34:13
  freezing. Yeah, and.
• 1:34:14
  They had the bus heater on me. We were in a bus and I I sat in
• 1:34:19
  that thing and then the hotel room for like 3 hours with the
• 1:34:23
  heat on the highest level it could get before I thought out.
• 1:34:28
  You didn't even get into. Like, I'm not sure.
• 1:34:29
  I don't, No. No.
• 1:34:31
  I mean, the hot water felt like my skin was burning, you know,
• 1:34:34
  like it was like because I was, I was just frozen.
• 1:34:36
  So yeah, it was like, like, it was, It was funny because my,
• 1:34:41
  the original problem was I'm scared of heights and I was
• 1:34:43
  bungee jumping. But it turned into the worst
• 1:34:46
  part about that was the freezing cold water.
• 1:34:50
  In the Blizzard? No big deal.
• 1:34:52
  No big deal. Oh my God.
• 1:34:55
  What was your most embarrassing hairstyle?
• 1:34:59
  OK, so several years ago, Ty Marcel was at Elements.
• 1:35:08
  It used to be right here in Old Town.
• 1:35:09
  It's not there anymore. It's still a hair place, I think
• 1:35:12
  though. And I was at WB and they were
• 1:35:16
  actually one of my advertising clients.
• 1:35:17
  And it wasn't tied. That did my hair.
• 1:35:20
  But I I decided I wanted to do the whole bleach thing, You
• 1:35:23
  know, I wanted to go platinum. Yeah.
• 1:35:26
  And so I go in there after work. I go in there after work.
• 1:35:30
  So this is probably 2324 years ago.
• 1:35:36
  You know, I go in after work a little early, maybe 4:00
• 1:35:39
  o'clock. I left at 11 because.
• 1:35:43
  The first round came out and it was like fire engine orange.
• 1:35:49
  Yeah, that was your heart. That happened.
• 1:35:51
  Was your heart? Was your hair dark?
• 1:35:53
  No. Same as it is now.
• 1:35:55
  Yeah. So they they had to do it three
• 1:35:59
  or four times like that though he looks and yeah that was so
• 1:36:02
  that was the look I was going for and.
• 1:36:07
  But so anyway, the my my scalp burned from all the chemicals.
• 1:36:11
  So my literally my whole scalp was three days later it was all
• 1:36:17
  scab. It was it was bad.
• 1:36:20
  Like it was bad. So the reason I brought up tie
• 1:36:23
  is that they brought him over because he was like the good one
• 1:36:28
  to try to figure out how to fix my hair.
• 1:36:30
  But they they did it. And then also and my scalp, my
• 1:36:33
  so my scalp was my hair was dry. So dry.
• 1:36:37
  Like for for months it was it was like completely just
• 1:36:41
  chemically burned. But I tell I wish I had a
• 1:36:45
  picture to show you cuz Zac ain't got nothing on what I.
• 1:36:50
  Well, you know what? Zac Efron Can't Sing.
• 1:36:53
  That's true, yeah. Zac Efron Can't Sing.
• 1:36:56
  I didn't. Know that.
• 1:36:57
  Yeah, on High School Musical, he was just basically the puppet.
• 1:37:03
  You know what? A lot of our recording artists,
• 1:37:05
  most popular recording artists, are still the same way.
• 1:37:08
  They Can't Sing, yeah. They Can't Sing.
• 1:37:10
  He Can't Sing like the I remember I watch the.
• 1:37:13
  Thing is that I also still have a shot to be a singer.
• 1:37:16
  Yeah. I opened up for I'm not going to
• 1:37:19
  name the band, but I opened up for a fairly popular band and I
• 1:37:25
  I was amazed that how much they spent 20 some years doing this
• 1:37:30
  for a living. From a vocal standpoint, not
• 1:37:33
  from the band. The band was awesome.
• 1:37:34
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, a lot of work.
• 1:37:36
  Yeah, yeah, a lot of. Auto.
• 1:37:38
  Tune. You can do a lot of stuff.
• 1:37:39
  Like you guys are actually gonna be able to take this podcast and
• 1:37:43
  make it sound cool. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:37:45
  I can do that, yeah. Yeah, even with me here.
• 1:37:48
  So, I mean, that's the thing. It's no different in music.
• 1:37:53
  True. True.
• 1:37:55
  What is your most memorable fan story?
• 1:37:59
  Wait, fan? Yeah, memorable fan story.
• 1:38:02
  Either you as a fan or a fan of yours, Yes, and it could include
• 1:38:08
  something that Hazel did. Yeah, Well, look.
• 1:38:12
  This is your chance to embarrass her.
• 1:38:14
  I will tell you what, Hazel, Hazel, I'm going to say that my,
• 1:38:21
  I'm, I'm a huge fan of her. So she does get up and sing a
• 1:38:25
  couple of songs occasionally whenever I decide to call her
• 1:38:28
  up. And and it's always so cool
• 1:38:31
  because I mean, first she's hot, so you like, but she also sings
• 1:38:37
  very well and like, it's a little humbling when she's done.
• 1:38:44
  And the most noise that's been made is always after Hazel
• 1:38:47
  sings, you know, like all night long.
• 1:38:50
  But I but I love it. And people, people tell me
• 1:38:54
  they're like, why doesn't she sing more?
• 1:38:55
  But I'm like, you know what? I love the fact that she comes
• 1:38:59
  up, does one or two maybe 3 songs.
• 1:39:02
  It's special. Like if she did it all night, it
• 1:39:04
  wouldn't be special, you know, like it would be oh Hazel
• 1:39:06
  singing still like when I sing like it's, you know, over a long
• 1:39:11
  period of time. So it's it's like that little
• 1:39:13
  sprinkle of hey, we're going to change things up nobody.
• 1:39:17
  I mean, if you've never seen this play, you don't know what's
• 1:39:19
  gonna happen. If you've seen this play, you
• 1:39:20
  know that it might happen, but it might not, cuz I just look at
• 1:39:24
  and kind of try to judge what mood she's in and she never
• 1:39:28
  knows when it's gonna happen. That's all.
• 1:39:30
  You're, like, not right now. Yeah.
• 1:39:31
  Not right now. Yeah.
• 1:39:34
  Yeah, and she's me. Up I'm not in the mood.
• 1:39:37
  And I yeah. And I don't.
• 1:39:39
  But that's a, I mean that's a pretty cool fan thing but I, you
• 1:39:42
  know, I, I I will say, can I go further?
• 1:39:45
  Yeah. OK, so this isn't really a fan
• 1:39:47
  thing, but you know, back in back in the days and the Sex and
• 1:39:51
  the City days when that show was.
• 1:39:53
  Just super hot. And then Northern, well, we're
• 1:39:56
  talking about the show, yeah. Yeah, I know.
• 1:40:01
  I'm talking about the show too. I love both.
• 1:40:03
  I. Love both around I.
• 1:40:05
  Love both. She enjoys her nights.
• 1:40:09
  So. I can see myself as Samantha.
• 1:40:14
  So I had this, so I had I was on a flight, I was working, I was
• 1:40:17
  heading to Nashville and I was on this flight with John
• 1:40:22
  Corbett. So he was the dude from in Sex
• 1:40:26
  in the City and then on Northern Northern Exposure I think was
• 1:40:30
  the other show he did and then he had just recently put out a
• 1:40:33
  country album, which wasn't that good.
• 1:40:36
  But anyway, so. If you yeah, look up John
• 1:40:40
  Corbett, there he is. Him.
• 1:40:44
  Yeah. Oh, what's his name?
• 1:40:46
  Aiden or something? Yeah.
• 1:40:48
  Yeah, I think that was his name right there, remember?
• 1:40:50
  So I'm on this plane and I'm, I look over like, so he's my aisle
• 1:40:54
  partner, like he said right here and he's all leathered up.
• 1:40:57
  He's got like he he looks like a biker almost, you know, And he's
• 1:41:01
  got his, his beat up guitar bag with his guitar right there with
• 1:41:05
  him and I recognized him. But I'm not like a a fanboy, you
• 1:41:11
  know, like, I mean I I was a huge fan of that show, but I
• 1:41:16
  just, I looked over at him and I was like what kind of guitar you
• 1:41:20
  play, you know, like and so I think he really loved the fact
• 1:41:24
  that I wasn't like hey you want an hour to you know take a
• 1:41:27
  picture with me or whatever. And we we literally talked about
• 1:41:30
  guitars for the next hour and a half or where however long it
• 1:41:34
  was and so. So we get to Nashville and I'm
• 1:41:39
  I'm, I I'm walking to the luggage to get my luggage and he
• 1:41:44
  walks up right next to me and we're and we still keep talking.
• 1:41:48
  And then my friend who I'm going to see who works at an art at an
• 1:41:52
  at the time she worked in an artist agency and she calls and
• 1:41:57
  so I'm on the phone with her. He's standing right here and all
• 1:42:00
  of a sudden I hear all these. Like teenage girl screams and
• 1:42:06
  they just swarm over there. And so my friend Michelle is on
• 1:42:12
  the phone going. What's going on?
• 1:42:15
  And I was like, I don't and I didn't know his name.
• 1:42:17
  So I I just knew I was like he's, I can't remember his real
• 1:42:20
  name. Yeah, yeah, that's and.
• 1:42:21
  So yeah, I was like. I don't think right now.
• 1:42:25
  What do you mean? What are you doing?
• 1:42:27
  You want me to invite him? Over.
• 1:42:28
  Yeah, yeah, he said that. He's down to get a drink.
• 1:42:31
  So I'm sitting there and I go, I go, well, I don't, I don't know.
• 1:42:36
  But the the dude from Sex in the City that just did it.
• 1:42:41
  A country album is here. We've been talking on the plane
• 1:42:45
  and we're talking right now and everybody's trying to get his
• 1:42:47
  autograph and they're like, oh, John and I was like, yeah, and
• 1:42:51
  she goes tell him. Telling Mitch said hi and I was
• 1:42:56
  like. How the fuck you know him?
• 1:42:58
  What? And and I turn over, I'm like,
• 1:43:01
  hey, Mitch says hi and she he goes, you know Mitch.
• 1:43:06
  Small world. Are we going to the same party?
• 1:43:09
  Like I was like, OK, this is weird and she so anyway, like
• 1:43:13
  Long story short, she wrapped she wrapped him at the artist
• 1:43:16
  agency so they they were close and he was coming to town.
• 1:43:19
  And we were possibly going to the same event that night.
• 1:43:24
  But yeah, anyway, that is, it was crazy.
• 1:43:26
  It was kind of a funny little fan story.
• 1:43:28
  Yeah, yeah, that's a good story. Yeah, shit.
• 1:43:31
  OK, so we have one more. Well, this.
• 1:43:34
  This one's a little hard. Or no, we're skipping that.
• 1:43:37
  One. Let's go.
• 1:43:38
  OK, let's do it. Just do the #9.
• 1:43:41
  OK, so we normally try to send this out ahead of time, but we'd
• 1:43:45
  love to hear you try to. Sound it off now.
• 1:43:48
  If you had to pick three songs for your life anthem, what would
• 1:43:51
  they be and why songs, not artists and not albums?
• 1:43:57
  Songs, not artists, not albums. We didn't let people choose
• 1:44:01
  albums and they were upset about that.
• 1:44:05
  Yeah, so I'm gonna go back to my Southern Baptist roots.
• 1:44:14
  And I would say there's a couple of hymns.
• 1:44:17
  I'll Fly Away would be one. And I don't know why this next
• 1:44:24
  one just came to my head, but it's here I go again.
• 1:44:29
  Is that the name of the song? Whitesnake.
• 1:44:31
  Here I go again. I don't know why.
• 1:44:35
  Like, I just like it just has a cool beat, you know?
• 1:44:40
  And then. Did you say 3?
• 1:44:43
  Yeah, you can do one more 3. Man, I don't know.
• 1:44:50
  That's hard. You're allowed to do 2, then
• 1:44:54
  we'll allow it. Yeah, that is hard cuz I didn't
• 1:44:56
  get to think about it. Like, I mean The thing is, is my
• 1:45:01
  songs. And love for songs changes, you
• 1:45:05
  know, like you asked earlier what's my favorite song to
• 1:45:07
  perform like like yeah, yeah. Like Son of a Sinner is I love
• 1:45:11
  performing it right now. Prior to that it was cover me
• 1:45:15
  up. But yeah, I mean I I would say,
• 1:45:21
  I would say it yeah. Changes depending on the, you
• 1:45:24
  know place you are in life right now.
• 1:45:28
  Yeah. But I'll fly away definitely.
• 1:45:30
  Definitely. That's a good life, Life anthem.
• 1:45:33
  OK, so this last question is our way of almost wrapping up.
• 1:45:38
  But also, you know, we've now heard a little bit about your
• 1:45:41
  story, your passions, your interests and your disinterests.
• 1:45:44
  Also tell us and our listeners, how can everyone find you and
• 1:45:51
  the red dirt, red misfits? And also how can we support you?
• 1:45:56
  I mean, you know, so we don't do the whole website stuff.
• 1:45:59
  We've got the at Dirt Rd. Misfits is our handle on
• 1:46:05
  Facebook. So it's Jared Brown and the Dirt
• 1:46:07
  Rd. Misfits.
• 1:46:08
  But if you just typed in at Dirt Rd.
• 1:46:10
  Misfits, it's it's there. That's where you can find us on
• 1:46:14
  Snapchat. Pornhub only fans, no.
• 1:46:22
  That's how we support them. That's how we support them.
• 1:46:25
  Yeah. So I would say that I'm.
• 1:46:34
  Sorry he was. Making the canals to.
• 1:46:38
  Us. I was like, I mean, I
• 1:46:40
  compromise. I recognize the signal.
• 1:46:42
  I recognize that. He was like.
• 1:46:44
  Gonna turn down I'm like cuz I you.
• 1:46:46
  Cuz Well, for a minute loud, yeah.
• 1:46:47
  Yeah, he's always telling us that we're too loud or some
• 1:46:50
  other shit. Yeah, yeah, we're like, what do
• 1:46:53
  you want like? I know he's speaking to me.
• 1:46:56
  I know it. You know, I, I mean, so going
• 1:47:01
  back to, I know you guys are having fun, you know?
• 1:47:04
  Yeah. No.
• 1:47:06
  That's how we can support you. No, I would say that like the
• 1:47:09
  biggest support is just like just support local music.
• 1:47:14
  You know, I mean I don't I I would love, I would love support
• 1:47:20
  with our band. But I don't I I would love more
• 1:47:24
  that for just people to support you know support local music,
• 1:47:29
  local restaurants, local grocery stores, local everything.
• 1:47:32
  I mean it's it's hard like we go out.
• 1:47:37
  I get asked so many times. Can you, hey, can you do this
• 1:47:40
  gig for $350.00? I'm like like all six of us.
• 1:47:46
  You know, we've got 5 band members and A and a sound guy
• 1:47:51
  and and they think, Oh well, you go there and you set up.
• 1:47:54
  It's three hours. No, it's like sometimes like
• 1:47:58
  there's places I go. I have to set up so early to to
• 1:48:02
  avoid the dinner crowd. By the end of the day, it's a 12
• 1:48:05
  hour day. You know and and and you know,
• 1:48:10
  Dusty, I mean like the you, you have an art, you have a craft.
• 1:48:14
  Like we're getting paid for the time that we've spent in our
• 1:48:17
  life to get to this point. Not we're not getting paid for
• 1:48:20
  the moment that we're here on stage.
• 1:48:22
  Like we've invested a lot of time, a lot of money, a lot of
• 1:48:25
  everything and and you know we go out and make 100 bucks
• 1:48:32
  playing a four hour gig that's actually 7 or 8 hours.
• 1:48:36
  You know and each one of us drove our own vehicle and you
• 1:48:40
  know it it's it's expensive. And so I the support would be go
• 1:48:46
  see shows follow us on online and you know when you get out
• 1:48:50
  there throw a tip in the bucket or send a Venmo or something for
• 1:48:53
  a tip. You know, I mean it's it's nice.
• 1:48:56
  People tend not to do that when it's a band like I can go and
• 1:48:59
  make. More money on tips than the
• 1:49:02
  venues paying me if I'm solo or a duo.
• 1:49:05
  But when there's a band, it's like, no, it's I don't know if
• 1:49:07
  it's like an intimidation thing or like they don't think you
• 1:49:10
  need it or whatever. But when it's a full band, it's
• 1:49:13
  like there's like 30-30 dollars in the tip jar and I can go play
• 1:49:19
  solo and have 300. Yeah, it's it's just, it's a
• 1:49:23
  weird thing. But yeah, like the band is what
• 1:49:25
  cost the money, you know? Like, I've got to go put new
• 1:49:28
  tires on the trailer, I've got a sound system I've got.
• 1:49:30
  Yeah, you've got thousands and thousands of dollars invested in
• 1:49:33
  equipment. Yeah, we often joke every time
• 1:49:37
  we look at our balance in our bank accounts.
• 1:49:39
  Right now we're like, y'all we can afford.
• 1:49:43
  We can finally afford tune on this podcast, he's finally a
• 1:49:49
  part of the team, but alright. Guys, well, but Jared, I
• 1:49:54
  appreciate you coming to our podcast at the end.
• 1:49:57
  We always do a cheers. Yes.
• 1:49:59
  So it's in Spanish, just to let you know, but I mean, you're
• 1:50:02
  used to it. Okay.
• 1:50:04
  So PA Riva pavaco Pacentro ipadentro, here to you, here to
• 1:50:09
  you. Here to you.
• 1:50:14
  Thank you guys, you were awesome.