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The Muster Full Show: 17/09/26 · The Muster on Hokonui

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  Speaker 1: Good afternoon and welcome to the muster on Hokonui. Andy
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  Speaker 1: Muir here. The show is brought to you by Petersonetics.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome along. With the calm after the carnage, looking outside
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  Speaker 1: over Main Street, currently we're on 10 degrees. There's blue
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  Speaker 1: sky and it's certainly a different take from what we
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  Speaker 1: had yesterday as it's just so darn wet across the
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  Speaker 1: southern province. You're hearing of snow in a lot of
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  Speaker 1: places in northern Southland. Ida Valley, for example, had six
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  Speaker 1: inches of snow yesterday. So September is proving to be
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  Speaker 1: a basket case once again. On that, going to be
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  Speaker 1: interesting to hear a couple of chats talking lambing days.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get on to that shortly, but before we go
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  Speaker 1: any further, Toto, name of the dog in a famous movie,
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  Speaker 1: but also a band that's pretty darn sharp as well.
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  Speaker 1: This afternoon, showers later on, of course there is. A
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  Speaker 1: breezy north westerlies and 11. Friday, light rain with westerlies
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  Speaker 1: 8 and 11. Saturday, showers, a breezy north westerlies 4
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  Speaker 1: and 15. Sunday, light morning rain with breezy south westerlies
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  Speaker 1: 4 and 9. And on Monday, rain developing later on
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  Speaker 1: with breezy north westerlies 2 and 16. Your soil temperatures,
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  Speaker 1: Clinton 6.3, Ditto, Heriot. Northern South in 7.1, Riverton 9.8,
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  Speaker 1: Te Anau 7.4, Titaroa 8.2, Winton 7.5. And Woodlands at 8.3,
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  Speaker 1: starting off this afternoon by heading down to Morton Mains.
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  Speaker 1: Catching up with Matt Ward, flat out on the lambing beat.
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  Speaker 1: Then after Matt, we're going down to Tokanui. Henry Buckingham
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  Speaker 1: in the beef and lamb slot. Henry's gone against the
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  Speaker 1: grain this year. He thought, bugger it, after the last
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  Speaker 1: couple of years, I'm changing my lambing date. So he
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  Speaker 1: tells us why he is putting his lambing back until October,
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  Speaker 1: which is something that a lot of people possibly could
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  Speaker 1: be considering.
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  Speaker 2: This could become a thing in Southland.
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  Speaker 1: Robin Greer of Tutorel, we have a catch up as
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  Speaker 1: well to see how things are going down there. Peter Gardine,
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  Speaker 1: based in Napdale as well, into lambing. He's got the
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  Speaker 1: studs under control, he's doing the tagging there, Pete says,
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  Speaker 1: but catches up for a yard to see how things
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  Speaker 1: are going. And resident sporting guru Nathan Byrd and the
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  Speaker 1: Stags are going.
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  Speaker 2: For two in a row.
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  Speaker 1: They're way up to New Plymouth to play the Naki
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  Speaker 1: after doing a demo job of Bay of Plenty last Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: Dave Morrison of PDG writes and gives a rundown on prices.
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  Speaker 1: Then we crack into the hour with Matt Ward.
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  Speaker 2: This is the must have brought to you by Peter's Genetics,
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  Speaker 2: six after one. Meet you all.
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  Speaker 3: The way.
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  Speaker 1: We're away to Morton Mains this afternoon on the muster
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  Speaker 1: to catch up with Matt Ward, sheep and cattle farmer.
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  Speaker 2: In the middle of lambing, Matt, good afternoon. How are
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  Speaker 2: you coping in the wet?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, g'day Andy. Yeah, we're chipping away. It's certainly not easy,
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  Speaker 3: but we're getting there. Good day, good sunny day. Well,
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  Speaker 3: it's sunny, it's not very warm, but it changes perspective
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  Speaker 3: on things pretty quickly, doesn't it?
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  Speaker 2: Tuesday, 19 degrees. Yesterday is what it was.
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  Speaker 1: If that makes any sense, then today it's just cool
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  Speaker 1: with a bit of blue sky.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, September is anything but settled.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, 100%. It's changeable, isn't it? And I think after
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  Speaker 3: the last couple of years, we've grew to expect it
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  Speaker 3: to be one extreme to the other. Like I was
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  Speaker 3: out planting trees on Tuesday afternoon, like it was a
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  Speaker 3: beautiful afternoon. Good wind drying everything out and then I
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  Speaker 3: think we tipped out 25 mil of rain from yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: It's just reverted straight back to mud and there's an
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  Speaker 3: enormous amount of water lying around in some paddocks. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's not too flashy out there at the moment.
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  Speaker 2: Is it as wet as you've seen it there?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I keep thinking like, I feel like I've got
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  Speaker 3: a pretty short memory because I know last year and
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  Speaker 3: the year before that was pretty average. Like, pretty, pretty average.
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  Speaker 3: And then this year, like, I feel like we're probably
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  Speaker 3: just as bad. I felt like we got bad earlier
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  Speaker 3: this year. We copped all that August, like, that rain
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  Speaker 3: at the end of August there. Was it the Monday
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  Speaker 3: or whatever it was, just before I started lambing.
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  Speaker 2: 31st of August, yeah, arguably the coldest day of winter.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I reckon that's just put us on the
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  Speaker 3: back foot from the start, to be fair. And we
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  Speaker 3: had quite a bit of easterly stuff blowing, and it's
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  Speaker 3: got all that shelter all wet, and From there, you
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  Speaker 3: start on the back foot like she's a long way
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  Speaker 3: out of the hole and it's just got worse and
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  Speaker 3: worse and worse. Whereas last year I felt like we
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  Speaker 3: started off pretty well and it just continuously got wet.
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  Speaker 3: But that is what it is. Can't do too much
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  Speaker 3: about it. It's one thing we can't control is the weather.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, just got to soldier on.
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  Speaker 2: So how far through are you?
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  Speaker 3: I reckon the years would be probably three quarters of
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  Speaker 3: the way through. And then hoggets start on Wednesday. So
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  Speaker 3: I'm sort of just in that low point at the
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  Speaker 3: moment of, yeah, probably 300 or 400 ewes lemon at
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  Speaker 3: the moment. And then once the hoggets get underway, it
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  Speaker 3: gets busier again. But I was saying to you last
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  Speaker 3: time or the time before, I used ram harnesses for
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  Speaker 3: the first time. So in 10-day intervals. So the first
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  Speaker 3: 10 days I had 73, 74% of my ewes lemon,
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  Speaker 3: which has just been a game changer. Having them, like
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  Speaker 3: they're all finished and now they're all mobbed up, starting
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  Speaker 3: on a rotation. And it's just, I've gone from being
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  Speaker 3: like 22, 23 paddocks to go around down to six,
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  Speaker 3: just like that. It's just, yeah, giving myself.
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  Speaker 4: A lot more time.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm a big fan of getting ewes mobbed up
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  Speaker 3: as soon as, get them rotating around and try and
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  Speaker 3: get a bit of grass growing in front of them
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  Speaker 3: and try to get them, like that peak milk's around
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  Speaker 3: that three weeks post-lamin, so if everything's mobbed up by
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  Speaker 3: then and rotating around and, well, hopefully getting some grass
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  Speaker 3: growing in front of them sets them up pretty well.
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  Speaker 1: I remember you talking about going to a ram harness,
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  Speaker 1: and it's interesting, a lot of people have gone the
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  Speaker 1: opposite way.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I sort of thought, I've never used one before,
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  Speaker 3: and I sort of thought it's easy to, it's quite
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  Speaker 3: easy not to use it. And I was like, oh God,
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  Speaker 3: just try it for this year, and if it works,
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  Speaker 3: it works. If it doesn't, it doesn't work, you know.
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  Speaker 3: So it's definitely a lot more work during mating, bringing
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  Speaker 3: mobs in and drafting rams out and changing crayons and
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  Speaker 3: a bit of mucking around. But far out, it saved
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  Speaker 3: me a lot of time at this end of the year.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just here by myself chipping about. So if I
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  Speaker 3: can save a few hours a day going around sheep
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  Speaker 3: that don't need looked at, yeah, it's all for the better.
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  Speaker 3: And to be fair, I've still had, like, I've had
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  Speaker 3: these ewes that are lambing 20 days after the ram
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  Speaker 3: went out. Like, they've still been on crop up until
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  Speaker 3: the start of this week. So it's just been, not
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  Speaker 3: that there's been a big majority of them, but it's
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  Speaker 3: just saved a bit more feed and stretched my swedes
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  Speaker 3: out a bit further. And, yeah, that's definitely been a
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  Speaker 3: bit of a game changer for me.
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  Speaker 1: So how intensive on the lambing beat are you, bearing
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  Speaker 1: in mind you're doing everything by yourself, so there's only
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  Speaker 1: so many hours in the day to contemplate?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I try not to be too intensive, like I
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  Speaker 3: certainly know I could be doing more, but time is
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  Speaker 3: the thing, like try and get around in the morning,
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  Speaker 3: I've still got about nearly 180 catawombs that are behind
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  Speaker 3: the wire at the moment, so I'm still shifting them
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  Speaker 3: on grass each day, and we're doing a few lambs
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  Speaker 3: on a feeder at the moment, so there's a bit
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  Speaker 3: of time in that. Yeah, but one thing that's definitely
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  Speaker 3: got better is I've sort of culled out all my
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  Speaker 3: ewes that get mothered on. Like the first couple of
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  Speaker 3: years I might have mothered on 30 or 40 ewes,
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  Speaker 3: whereas this year I might have had seven or eight
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  Speaker 3: through the pen than a good young ewes that deserve
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  Speaker 3: a chance to have a lamb. Whereas, yeah, back at
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  Speaker 3: the start, like far out, you're mothering on sheep all
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  Speaker 3: the time and that's where the time is. So now
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  Speaker 3: that they're all gone out of the system, trying to
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  Speaker 3: just make them, well, I sort of believe they've got
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  Speaker 3: to do it themselves, don't they? You can't pamper them
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  Speaker 3: too much. And when a ewe's worth what it is
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  Speaker 3: at the moment, sending a wet-dry ewe to the works
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  Speaker 3: is worth a fair bit of coin. So get them
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  Speaker 3: out of it, off the gate and, yeah, no more
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  Speaker 3: problems for next year, hopefully.
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  Speaker 2: But if it's a wet-dry because of the weather, what
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  Speaker 2: philosophy then?
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  Speaker 3: Ah that's a good question I think it's yeah it's
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  Speaker 3: sort of hard like it's I definitely think if we
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  Speaker 3: have a real bad storm come through and there's a
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  Speaker 3: majority of lambs in the paddock that have been born
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  Speaker 3: overnight are down and down and out then I think
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  Speaker 3: they have a case to to uh to survive another
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  Speaker 3: year that you but like even like yeah even this
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  Speaker 3: morning like a few lambs that were down and cold
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  Speaker 3: like the there's a majority of the paddock that were
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  Speaker 3: born last night up and feeding well, and you've sort
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  Speaker 3: of got to ask the question, like, why hasn't that
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  Speaker 3: ewe got up and got her lambs going again? So
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  Speaker 3: I sort of do it case by case, but I'm
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  Speaker 3: a sort of believer that I've sort of got to
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  Speaker 3: get up and do it unless it's real average.
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  Speaker 1: It's interesting the way that thinking has gone the way
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  Speaker 1: it has regarding husbandry. I mean, case in point for
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  Speaker 1: dry hog, it's a lot of people culling them. Now, yes,
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  Speaker 1: the money's good, but they're still young animals. And regarding
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  Speaker 1: what you're talking about right there, Matt, if an animal,
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  Speaker 1: if a sheep isn't prepared to get up and look
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  Speaker 1: after a young, even if it is a hideous night,
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  Speaker 1: then that's kind of on her.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. And some people would say it's
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  Speaker 3: pretty harsh, and especially like you put a lot of
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  Speaker 3: time into getting a hog into lamb or a, ewe
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  Speaker 3: into lamb just to go color but you got to
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  Speaker 3: remember like there's 95 percent of the rest of the
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  Speaker 3: flock have got up and got that lamb going and
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  Speaker 3: given it a feed and or lamb that lamb in
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  Speaker 3: shelter and then old uh the old ewe that's gone
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  Speaker 3: and lambed in the middle of the storm in the
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  Speaker 3: middle of the paddock you got to ask yourself you
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  Speaker 3: know like i'm trying to trying to breed survivability into
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  Speaker 3: my flock and to be fair after the last two
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  Speaker 3: years like it hasn't been real hard to do. Kenny
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  Speaker 3: Lamb that survived the last couple of years, and this
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  Speaker 3: year as well, has got pretty hearty. And it's sort
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  Speaker 3: of what I want to be breeding for. Like, I'm
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  Speaker 3: not into pampering my stock through too much. And like
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  Speaker 3: I was saying earlier, like, it's here by myself, so
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  Speaker 3: you've got to prioritise your time. If you're there trying
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  Speaker 3: to keep everything alive and keep every ewe to rear
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  Speaker 3: a lamb, like, I'd be pulling my hair out. And
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  Speaker 3: then it's sort of like you go and get a
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  Speaker 3: lambing shepherd at $ 400 or $ 500 a day. Like, it's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of... There's a lot of money to... I
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  Speaker 3: know we're getting good money for our lambs, but it's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of money to be paying someone to just
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  Speaker 3: be helping as well.
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  Speaker 1: So you've boxed up your ewes already, got them going
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  Speaker 1: around on the feed. What are your covers like, given
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  Speaker 1: the situation?
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  Speaker 3: Average. Average. Very average, to be fair. And I know
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  Speaker 3: that's definitely the tricky part of getting them onto a
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  Speaker 3: rotation is trying to... I could have put a bit
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  Speaker 3: of N in the system back in mid-August, so you
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  Speaker 3: can definitely tell those paddocks that have got the N
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  Speaker 3: in them compared to the paddocks that haven't. So they've
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  Speaker 3: got a bit of good cover in them where the
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  Speaker 3: mobs sort of start. And there's definitely a lot of
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  Speaker 3: shuffling around to begin with. Got a few paddocks of
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  Speaker 3: Italian and a few hybrid paddocks in that have kept
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  Speaker 3: pumping a bit of feed. So they're sort of targeted
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  Speaker 3: first and then sort of just, yeah, it's a bit
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  Speaker 3: of a shambles for the first few weeks. But once
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  Speaker 3: the feed comes, then they're on a good rotation. Once
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  Speaker 3: they're in that rotation, they're away then, aren't they? It
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  Speaker 3: makes life a bit easier later on.
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  Speaker 1: Therefore, it's organised chaos, but it's like the plan coming
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  Speaker 1: together eventually.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, 100% it is. Yeah, it is. And I'd rather
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  Speaker 3: have them tight in a mob and know I'm going
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  Speaker 3: feed in front of them than having them spread out
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  Speaker 3: and being tight and having nowhere to go. Like, it's
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  Speaker 3: sort of... Yeah, it gets a wee bit tricky, but
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  Speaker 3: it's sort of... Once the sun comes out and you've
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  Speaker 3: got everything mobbed up and moving around, like, even though
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  Speaker 3: it's all temps up and we're still... Feed's still freshening
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  Speaker 3: up in front of us, so... get these hoggets spread
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  Speaker 3: out and then they'll create a bit of space as
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  Speaker 3: well and yeah, slowly it all gets a bit easier.
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  Speaker 1: Righto mate, we'll leave it there, thanks for your time
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  Speaker 1: good luck out there and one good thing about today
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  Speaker 1: is you can wear your sunnies.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, cheers for that Andy they're not on just yet
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  Speaker 3: but we'll get there eventually.
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  Speaker 2: Matt Ward, based at Morton Mains.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting philosophy as well regarding stock and wet dries. Everybody's
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  Speaker 1: got their theories, but fascinating, the mindset these days, like
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  Speaker 1: I've talked about before, how it's all changed. Nonetheless, that's
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  Speaker 1: the evolution of farming, if you will. Henry Buckingham's up
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  Speaker 1: next in the beef and lamb slot. Now, Henry has
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  Speaker 1: gone against the grain this year, and he's changed his
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  Speaker 1: lambing date.
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  Speaker 2: I'm fascinated to know his rationale behind this. He's up next.
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  Speaker 1: Henry Buckingham farms at Tokanui, and he's gone against the grain.
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  Speaker 1: He's lambing in October this year. He's joining us this
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  Speaker 1: afternoon to tell us why his mindset has changed around
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  Speaker 1: an October lambing all of a sudden.
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  Speaker 2: Henry, good afternoon. Good to chat once again.
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  Speaker 5: Good afternoon, Andy.
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  Speaker 2: First and foremost, off the top of my head, why October?
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  Speaker 5: Well, two main reasons for slamming in October have been
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  Speaker 5: to increase feed covers and increase survivability. Yeah, they were
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  Speaker 5: the two main goals.
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  Speaker 1: Just because of the weather conditions, like you said yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: you kind of felt vindicated for the change, I suppose, well,
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  Speaker 1: for the short term anyway?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I guess the last few years we've got...
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  Speaker 5: smashed in September and it sort of just rains all
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  Speaker 5: of September so I got sick of doing the same
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  Speaker 5: thing and expecting a different result. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Did it take much convincing to get it over the
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  Speaker 1: line regarding your farming operation to think yep I'm putting
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  Speaker 1: everything back a month?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah I guess there's a few changes in the system
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  Speaker 5: that I've had to do to make it work but
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  Speaker 5: I'm just seeing positives with those changes at the moment.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah I always wondered why the high country farmers land
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  Speaker 5: quite late. And the way I see it is they
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  Speaker 5: just get smashed by the weather. So I thought, why
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  Speaker 5: can't we do the same? We're quite an exposed property
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  Speaker 5: down here on the top of Fort Rose Hill, basically.
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  Speaker 5: And we don't have a lot of shelter, so we
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  Speaker 5: do get a lot of land losses and bad weather.
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  Speaker 1: As far as your farming operation, what's changed, especially regarding
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  Speaker 1: winter grazing, given you've gone out four weeks?
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  Speaker 5: In terms of winter grazing, not much. We still have
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  Speaker 5: this switch we wintered on, actually, at the same time,
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  Speaker 5: because we were a wee bit short of feed going
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  Speaker 5: into winter. But, yeah, in terms of everything else, we're
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  Speaker 5: just on breaks a wee bit longer now, and given
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  Speaker 5: the grass a bit more time to grow after winter
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  Speaker 5: before set stocking. So yeah, it's been good so far.
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  Speaker 5: We're sitting on a good level of feed at the moment,
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  Speaker 5: which is nice considering how wet it's been.
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  Speaker 2: Are the ewes still on breaks at the moment?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, the main ewes are the ones that are lambing
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  Speaker 5: in October. We've still got an early mob that is
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  Speaker 5: starting in a couple of days' time. So they've just
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  Speaker 5: been set stocked at the start of this week. But yeah,
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  Speaker 5: our ewes are still on breaks, and it's a bit
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  Speaker 5: testing with the, but yeah, we're just sort of keeping
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  Speaker 5: them moving and with a lot of feed, that helps too.
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  Speaker 1: It must feel a bit bizarre not having to do
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  Speaker 1: much as far as shepherding in September, I suppose, though.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it does.
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  Speaker 5: So I've gone from doing two or three years now
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  Speaker 5: of starting late August with some earlys right through to
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  Speaker 5: hoggets and to the start of November. So it does
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  Speaker 5: feel very weird not getting into lambing till now, but
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  Speaker 5: also hoping it'll be over with a bit quicker. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: which would be nice.
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  Speaker 1: What's going to change in your farming operation heading into
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  Speaker 1: summer then, given that you're lambing when you are?
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  Speaker 5: Um, I guess our mean kill date's been pushed back
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  Speaker 5: a little bit. Um, and it already sort of has
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: the last year or two anyway with, um, sort of
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: market volatility not being as bad. Um, we've sort of
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: hung on a bit. So this might exaggerate that a
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: little bit more, pushing things back. But, um, we're also
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: getting really nice autumns which are allowing us to push
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: lambs into there and, um, So yeah, it's sort of
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: flowing onto the whole system. Everything's been pushed back slightly,
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: but we're, yeah, filling heavier lambs for it.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: So when do you hope to wean?
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: We'll wean just after New Year, I think. We'll probably
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: wean some early stuff pre-Christmas still, just to get on
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: to some of the summer finishing crops. But yeah, we'll
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: do the main lot after New Year, and we probably
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: won't look at getting a lot away at weaning. with
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: sort of chasing the heavier weights. I've been leaving, yeah,
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: not taking as many off at leanings, and it hasn't
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: really affected us. If we think that there's going to
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: be a massive crash in the market, then it might change, but, yeah,
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: at this stage, that's the thinking.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: What about sharing dates, Henry? Does that come into the
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: equation at all?
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: Yes and no. Some of our old girls... Yeah, they'll
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: probably be shown still similar time, but we are sort
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: of moving towards a Wiltshire cross, so there's a bit
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: to think about there with sharing dates. They're probably not,
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: so you probably don't need to rush in and share
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: them so much. The younger years are sort of shooting
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: a bit, so yeah.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: People you've talked to with the later lambing date, what's
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: their initial reaction been? Because I was speaking to a
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: guy yesterday and he's seeking the same thing.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: He's had a gut full of September.
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, everyone seems a bit shocked when I say how
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: late I pushed it.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: What actually is your lambing date?
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: The 5th of.
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: October for the May news and the Hoggets all at once.
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: So it's going to be a bit of a workload then,
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: but Yeah.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Well, you'll arguably be a case study for a lot
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: of people too. They'll be monitoring what you're doing very carefully.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: They might not.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Say it, but trust me, they will because there may
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: be mythic behind your logic here.
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, yeah, like I say, I don't really know
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: myself yet how it's going to play out, but I've
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: got a bit of a plan and hopefully we can
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: stick to it as close as possible.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Like if the weather was actually a bit drier, were
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: you contemplating doing tractor work in September, then looking at October,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: just leaving it free for the lambing as such?
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Do things change in that department?
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, 100%. Yep. I always thought in the back of
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: my mind there'll be an opportunity to get on the
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: tractor in September if we do have a good one.
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: But yeah, it hasn't looked even close yet. So yeah, that'll...
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: That'll still be pushed into the end of October as well, so, yep,
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: we'll be busy, busy, I'd say.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: It's going to be really interesting, Henry, going forward, how
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: it works for you, putting your lambing date back to
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: early October. Look, thanks for your time this afternoon. And, yeah,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: go out there. What are you doing this afternoon, for example?
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: What's on the agenda?
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: Well, I've actually got a bit of hemlock to pull out, Andy.
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: I found a bit there the other day, and a
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: couple of ewes got poisoned.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Oh, hell.
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: I'm off to sort that problem. And then I'm heading
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: in to pick up a Scottish girl that's going to
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: come and help us with lambing. So bring in the reinforcements,
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: I guess, for the higher workload.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Hey, good on you, Henry. All the best for
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: lambing in October. Thanks for your time again.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Righty.
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Henry Buckingham, lambing in early October. Graham Butcher, there you go.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: It's happening. Up next, we're going to Napdale.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Pete Gardine. Welcome back to the muster. Pete Gardine farms
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: in Napdale. A mixed operation there.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Enjoyed this? Pete, good afternoon. How's things?
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: Oh, the sun's shining out here, so it's a better
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: day than yesterday, Andy, but we are a wee bit
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: damp underfoot.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: I was about to say, it wasn't shining yesterday, yet
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: 48 hours ago it was like the mid-teens.
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah, no, it's definitely another rollercoaster spring from what I
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: can see. A bit of snow on the ground this
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: afternoon at home on the higher end of the farm,
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: and yeah, pretty wet underfoot, but We're sort of getting
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: that wet and then we're getting these nice days in between.
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: So we're having relatively good lamb, or pretty good lamb
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: survival actually. So it's not terrible. But not great for
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: growing grass and not great for driving tractors.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Must be so frustrating with those iron horses sitting in
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: the sheds just getting bird nests.
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the tractor boys are getting pretty itchy to be fair.
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: And it's sort of finding them some jobs to do.
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: And then once they're going, they'll be into it.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: So you reckon lamb survival rates have been pretty good,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: all things considered?
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we're having pretty good survival. There was that really
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: nasty weekend, was it the end of August or right
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: at the start of September? That wasn't very fun. But
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: apart from that, we've sort of been ticking away pretty good.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Lambing as such, though, your main mob's only really cranking in.
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the studs were going at that early stage, and
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: now our main started on about the 10th, and, yeah,
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: they've been ticking away not too bad. Yeah. But I
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: do think it's a good time of year to go
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: for a wee hoon in the middle of the day.
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: We've got a wee block up at Pyramid that we
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: lamb sheep up there fully unsheverted. And if you had
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: a few tough days, you go for a drive and
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: check the sheep up the road and you just, you know,
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: you hoon up there and you drive around the road
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: and see what's happening and you take the long way home.
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: And it's just good to get out and see what
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: other people are up to and see what other people's
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: situations are. And it helps put your own one into perspective,
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: I think.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: So you reckon it's a good chance to realise everybody's
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: in the same boat in this situation?
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think when you get a spare moment in
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: the middle of the day, go to your local township
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: if you've got one and grab a pie and just
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: take the long way home or something along those lines
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: and that'll be my hot tip at the moment.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Do you encourage your staff to do that at this
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: time of year when it is full on? Just saying, look,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: go away for lunch, take an hour, go and do
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: what you need to do just to get a bit
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: of a reset.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Is that the case?
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, 100%.
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: We've actually got a bike that needs to go to
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: town at the moment, and that's what the staff are
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: doing today. Give them a bit of cash, tell them
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: to go to McDonald's or wherever the heck they want
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: to go, and, yeah, tell them to have a wee
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: ticky tour.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: That's a big thing in September, isn't it? It's a marathon,
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: not a sprint.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: And there is a now, you can see the finish line,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: but it's all about just working it out in case.
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: 100%, and especially in the weekends and that, not packing
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: more into the middle of the day than what needs
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: to happen. Just try and keep it as realistic as possible. But,
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: you know, we are busy as much as everyone else is. So, yeah,
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: we're not perfect. Don't get that illusion of me.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: How intensive is a lambing beat at your farm?
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: Well, on the hill, it's very unintensive. We set stock
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: and then we go back at tailing time. On the flats,
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: we check them twice a day. We do a little
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: bit of mothering up, but we're just very strict that
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: we cull anything that we touch. so you were sort
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: of on the medium intensity I guess you'd say on
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: the good country where you're going around you can actually
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: save a bit of money by doing it but just
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: the key thing is that we don't keep anything that
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: we touch.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: So in general though you think this is, how would
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: it compare to the last couple of seasons, a lot
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: of people saying this is the worst.
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: For us I think the last few have all been
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: sort of similar-ish it's definitely pretty weird I don't know,
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: I think it's another, you know, less than ideal lambing,
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: but I don't think it's, it's not terrible compared to
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: what 2010 was for us personally, but I know every
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: little district's got its own microclimate, so everyone will be
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: in a different boat on that front.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: 2010, a lot of snow fell.
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: 2010, a lot of snow fell, our drainage wasn't very
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: good at that stage, we didn't have much shelter at home.
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: And it was 10 days with no sort of stop
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: and no break. When I think these last few years,
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: there's been sunny days in between, and I think that
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: makes a huge difference.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Now, a few people look at lambing dates at the moment.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: I just spoke to Henry Buckingham before. He's putting it
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: back until the start of October. Do you see merit
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: in that?
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: That would be a wee bit too late for us,
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: and I think we'd mismatch our grass growth curve, but
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: then it depends what the enterprise looks like in regards
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: to other crops or baleage for cattle or whatever. We
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: have been ticking our lambing dates slowly back with these
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: springs because we do seem to be getting a slower,
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: later spring, so I'm definitely not a big fan of
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: lambing before we've got grass.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting, eh?
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: The people's mindset with the weather being the way it is. Previously,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: it's like September. It is what it is. You've just
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: got to deal with it. But, I mean, this year's
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: just kind of been the tipping point to a degree,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I suppose.
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: I think we need to invite back global warming. I
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: think we've done too much to stop global warming, and
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: I think we need that global warming to come back again, eh?
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Well, anything's better than snow in the middle of September, yes.
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah. So no, I think everyone has to get
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: those V8s cranked up this weekend and warm up the
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: atmosphere a bit.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Well, there you go. Pete's spoken. What about you? Like
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: I said today, the middle of September, what does it entail?
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: How full on is it?
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: So I'm tagging stud lambs. So it's running around in
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: every lamb that's born we chuck a tag in. We
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: do have a few that are on the DNA system.
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: There's different pros and cons to both ones. And then, yeah,
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: so I start work at about 7 and then probably
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: knocking off at about 6.30. And, yeah, probably lamb for
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: two or three hours in the morning and then, yeah,
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: two or three hours at night. And then, yeah, just
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: middle of the day, whatever other jobs need to happen.
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: I am driving to Pokhara, so that adds a bit
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: of time into my day. But that's life. And then
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: next week I'll be placed out of home, which will
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: be a bit less travelling for me. I actually really love...
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: tagging the lambs at birth. You get to see your
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: sheep up close. You get to see what's good. You
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: get to see what's bad and, you know, what size
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: that you want to keep you and which ones you don't. Yeah,
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: and I actually really enjoy lambing, but that probably makes
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: me a bit messed up.
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't say it makes you messed up. It
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: means you care about your craft, Pete.
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: I do care about my craft, and I do... I
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: don't know. I just think this job that we work
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: in is actually pretty cool. There's a lot of other
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: jobs out there that are... I don't know. They just
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: don't get to do what we do. Yeah.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, Pete. We'll let you carry on.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Thanks for your time, and we'll catch up in a
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: few weeks, and appreciate your time.
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: Awesome.
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: Good to talk.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Pete Gardine, based at Napdale.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: This is the must-a-way to toot around next, and we're
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: catching up with Robin Greer. And before the end of
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: the hour, our resident sporting guru, Nathan Braddon. This is
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: the muster on Hokanui. Toto is the music today. That
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: song there called 99. Wouldn't it be nice to have
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: 99 minutes of sun every day in September? Anyway, Robin
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Greer catches up next. He is farming out at Tutorau. Robin,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: good afternoon.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: How are you coping with things out there?
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: Good afternoon, Andy and listeners. Well, I guess my heart
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: goes out to the sheep farmers. Lambing, like, you know,
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: as dairy farmers, this is flinging hard going, but, you know...
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: Lambs being born in this weather is a bit more
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: challenging than what we're dealing with. We'll get through this
• 28:54
  Speaker 7: and it'll dry out, but sheep farmers with the lamb losses,
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: that's what I really feel for at the moment.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: How wet is it exactly at your place?
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: It can't be any wetter. It's as wet as it
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: can be. When you're leaving trenches in a pasture paddock
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: with a four-wheeler, that's wet.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: As far as your feeds, how's it lasting there? Are
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: you getting well through your first round yet?
• 29:19
  Speaker 7: Yeah, like, well, we've still got a bit to go yet.
• 29:22
  Speaker 7: We'll get pretty close to the end of the month,
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: which is pretty normal for us. But we did have,
• 29:27
  Speaker 7: we've had very good growth. Like, yeah, we've still got
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: extremely good covers. So feed isn't a problem. It's just
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: that damage that we want to avoid.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: It's just being able to get on the paddocks and
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: utilise the tucker, Robin, same old story.
• 29:41
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. One thing Phillip has been doing,
• 29:44
  Speaker 7: some paddocks, is starting the cows at the back of it,
• 29:47
  Speaker 7: so they walk down over the grass and break feed
• 29:52
  Speaker 7: them back up, which that has certainly helped, so it's
• 29:55
  Speaker 7: saved gateways and all that sort of thing. And Holter
• 29:58
  Speaker 7: has just enabled that to be a bit easier to
• 30:01
  Speaker 7: do that, yeah.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: So how far through carving are you?
• 30:05
  Speaker 7: We've probably got, I don't know, about 90 left to
• 30:08
  Speaker 7: go out of 480 or 490, yeah.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: That's not bad going.
• 30:14
  Speaker 7: It has been a bit slow this year for us.
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: Slowest carving we've had for a lot of years. But
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: probably with the wet, that hasn't been a bad thing.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Why has it been a bit slower then? You've still
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: got 90 to go in the scheme of things. You're
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: still getting well through.
• 30:27
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, yeah, last spring, like, obviously, that storm hit
• 30:33
  Speaker 7: just at a bad time. And, yeah, we've been wondering
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: ourselves why it's quite so bad. We didn't think the
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: spring was quite as bad as what our mating is
• 30:43
  Speaker 7: saying it was. So, yeah, we're evaluating everything, looking at everything,
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: seeing what we can do this year to make sure
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: we don't end up with another calving like this.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: So what are you thinking you need to change?
• 30:56
  Speaker 7: We're working on everything and working with the vets because
• 31:00
  Speaker 7: there's nothing obvious that was wrong last year, which is
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: really surprising just how slow calving has been.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: The girls have just been really relaxed, I suppose.
• 31:14
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah. They knew the weather was going to be
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: like it was and decided that'd be a bit later.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Decided they'd cross their legs for an extra couple of days.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 31:22
  Speaker 7: But, hey, you know, certainly we're lining up for a
• 31:26
  Speaker 7: reasonable sort of season, that's for sure, you know, because
• 31:30
  Speaker 7: feed-wise we're still well enough off. And, you know, them
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: cows will calve soon because there's only so many more
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: days that they've got that they've got to calve.
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: So, yeah.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: In your neck of the woods there, Robin, you've got
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: a bit of a get-together going on tomorrow and you're
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: encouraging people.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: To come along.
• 31:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah, so tomorrow the Tutorau community at the hall, there's
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: a continuous lunch from 11 o'clock until about 2 o'clock,
• 31:53
  Speaker 7: I think it is. And everybody's welcome to come along
• 31:57
  Speaker 7: and just take a bit of time out from the farm.
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: It's just an opportunity for you to go along, have
• 32:03
  Speaker 7: a chat to someone. have a feed. You don't have
• 32:06
  Speaker 7: to just turn up in your bling and farm clothes,
• 32:09
  Speaker 7: kick your gumboots off at the door and come in
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: and have a hot feed and have a chat to
• 32:13
  Speaker 7: someone and hopefully go home feeling a bit better.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: That's the big thing at the moment, isn't it?
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: It's about keeping in touch with a couple of people,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: not a couple of people, just whoever your networks are
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: and just chewing the fat because everybody's in the same
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: position ultimately.
• 32:29
  Speaker 7: Exactly. It's just so good to take a little bit
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: of time out for yourself and go and have a
• 32:36
  Speaker 7: chat to someone and have something to eat and go
• 32:39
  Speaker 7: back to the farm feeling a bit refreshed anyway and
• 32:41
  Speaker 7: feeling that, you know, hey, you're not on your own
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: and everybody else is in the same boat.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: From your perspective, Robin, because you've had a bit of
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: a skid in the game for a while, do you
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: notice that when you get older you still need to
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: take a bit of time off and just reset the
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: top three inches? Because the argument is that when you
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: get older you get a bit pragmatic or dogmatic for
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: that matter and just want to keep working.
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: Um.
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: It's probably a bit of both for me. Yeah, I
• 33:08
  Speaker 7: see the need for other people, you know, for younger
• 33:10
  Speaker 7: ones that are in the thick of it. Like, obviously,
• 33:12
  Speaker 7: I'm not in the thick of it. I have life
• 33:15
  Speaker 7: a little bit easier now than what I used to
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: 20 years ago. But for those that are in the
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: thick of it, like, it's tough going and you need
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: to just take a bit of time out and go
• 33:25
  Speaker 7: back feeling a bit more refreshed and knowing that you're
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: not the only one in that situation. It certainly does help.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: So tomorrow at 11 o'clock at the Tooterail Hall, is
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: that right?
• 33:37
  Speaker 7: That's right, yep, at the Tooterail Hall from 11 o'clock.
• 33:40
  Speaker 7: Turn up whatever time suits your programme for the day,
• 33:42
  Speaker 7: 11 till 2, and, you know, there'll be a hot
• 33:46
  Speaker 7: meal there for anybody that turns up that wants to
• 33:49
  Speaker 7: turn up and have a hot meal.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Fantastic.
• 33:51
  Speaker 7: And like I say, you know, just kick your gumboots
• 33:53
  Speaker 7: off at the door and come in. You don't have
• 33:55
  Speaker 7: to go and have a shower or bling and get
• 33:57
  Speaker 7: cleaned up before you come. We're all farmers. We're all
• 33:59
  Speaker 7: in the same boat.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: So this event's just being put on by the local community?
• 34:04
  Speaker 7: Yep, the local community hall committee have organised it.
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Now, how good. Hey, good on you, mate.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Hopefully the sun comes out and stays out, not just
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: for today, and all the best for tomorrow.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: A great initiative.
• 34:17
  Speaker 7: Hey, thanks very much, Andy, and all the best to
• 34:20
  Speaker 7: all the farmers out there that are trying to get
• 34:22
  Speaker 7: through each day.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Robin Greer of Tutorau. The Paddock to Plate event tomorrow.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: The free drop-in lunch for farmers happening at 11am at
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: the Tutorau Community Hall.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Also, the South and Rural Support Trust.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: And their Brunch on Us events are continuing too. Look
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: at their social channels. I just had a look at Dogmatic.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Pragmatic and Dogmatic. Dogmatic is someone who is completely certain
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: their opinions and beliefs are right and expects everyone else
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: to accept them without question.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: So I think I'll just go with Pragmatic.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Up next, we are away down to Invercargill to catch
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: up with our resident sporting guru, Nathan Burton, on the Thursday.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: This is the muster. This is the muster on Hakanui.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Our resident sporting guru is Nathan Burden. Nathan, good afternoon.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Hold the line by Toto.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Just brings back memories of somebody going into Rices and Gore,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: buying a Pioneer tape recorder, complete with graphic equaliser, and
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: doing domes on the main street here with a bit
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: of Toto cranking.
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: It is. It's a blast from a couple of angles there, mate.
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: The old Rices and the Rices Expo was... It was
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: one of those things you put in the calendar and
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: looked forward to back in the day too, wasn't it?
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: And then the Repo sailed about three weeks later.
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: But nonetheless, look, the Stags, they're back on track after
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: an impressive win over a disappointing Bay of Plenty at
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: the weekend. Taranaki awaits them on Sunday. It'll be interesting
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: to see how.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: They back up.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and, gee, a week is a long time in sport,
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: isn't it? We were probably a bit down in the
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: mouth after that county's performance, and then but seven days
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: later you get to have another crack. It's one of
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: the great things about rugby and sport in general, and
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: the Stags took every single opportunity that they were presented with,
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: that second-half effort into the wind at Rugby Park and
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: seeing some of those young guys have a real crack,
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: the Muli Aina try, The Rutledge try, you know, some
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: great names there, isn't there? And seeing the Stags get
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: away with a big win at home, probably it's reignited
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: their season in many ways, isn't it?
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Well, it had to.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: If they lost, they pretty much also ran yet again.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, they go up to New
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Plymouth with renewed optimism against a side which, let's be honest,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: hasn't been itself compared to what it was, say, two,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: three years ago.
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, when you're a Stags fan, faith, Faith never dies.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: We are so fickle. We are so, so fickle. But
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: you're allowed to be in September.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: Look, I've been up to the bullring many times to
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: watch Southland rugby teams not do so well. So I
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: would love nothing more than for them to go up
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: there and take one over the knacky. So it would
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: be great to go up there and grab a win.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: And as well, Northland, they've got one Ramfrey Shield defence
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: left for the year.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: They're playing counties. If they hold it, they've got it
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: for the season.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: If counties wins it, Hawke's Bay, who's top of the table,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: they lost last weekend to Harbour, they get the last challenge.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Come on, Northland.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: I think Hawke's Bay have been a great story all
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: year in terms of the MPC competition, but Northland have
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: been the story, haven't they, ever since they famously took
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: that shield off Canterbury and in much the same way
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: that Southland did when we've held it in recent times
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: really sort of treasured it and it's been part of
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: the community so they bar up for these games and
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if the Taniwha do hold it
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: right through to the end of the season No.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: That would be fantastic. Now, the Warriors, they're going to
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Eden Park. They sold it out pretty quickly. They're up
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: against the Newcastle Knights side with a lot of optimism
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: and reason as well. There was favourites going into this game,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: but this is a pretty darn good Newcastle side as well.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is going to be an absolute barn burner,
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: I think. When I think back to the last time
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: that they met, it was an absolute cracker of a game,
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: but that was a 12-man game. Newcastle team so you've
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: just got to wonder what this game's going to be
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: like whether the Warriors can lift for playoff that extra
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: intensity that playoffs footy brings they weren't able to do
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: it against the Dolphins they probably had players there that
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: will whether that was because it was their first taste
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: at that level or whether they just hadn't prepared right
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: to get themselves up for that they just weren't quite
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: there beauty is they get another crack but now it
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: is do or die so it'll be interesting I think
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: if they if they were truly at home, you would
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: have to put them down as the favourites. Going to
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: Eden Park where they don't have a record or don't
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: have a great record probably adds an extra wrinkle. So, gee,
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: I don't know which way this one's going to go.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, the talk's coming out of
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: the press, especially in the Australian press.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: About the Warriors.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: They've now outgrown Mount Smart, given their supporter base, which
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: I think is bullpucky.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: They need to stay at their spiritual home.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: A big game like this, this is being driven purely
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: by the NRL coffers.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: And, I mean, it's probably one of the things that
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: I don't enjoy about sport is that we just don't
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: understand the scarcity factor. and it's all about growth and
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: making as much money as you can. I get that,
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: but I think the fact that it is hard to
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: get a Warriors ticket, unless you know Jason Parris, there's just.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: Something about that.
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: You want to repay the faithful. The fact that they
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: can sell that ground out and get such a great atmosphere,
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: that's worth more than money to that club. You know,
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: it's just the culture of being a Warriors fan. And
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: those guys that have followed that team through thick and thin,
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: they deserve to get the chocolates now. And, you know,
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: hopefully that'll last for another week.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: And if they win this game, they go and play
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: a preliminary final against Penrith, and that'll be a different
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: kettle of fish over in Australia.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: But no, All Roads lead Eden Park. Jason Parris, that's
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: a pretty impressive name to name drop.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, a good blues man, yeah.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: He's got a double pass for you if you want
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: to go to Eden Park? Is that what you're saying?
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: No, well, he's actually moved on, but it's probably, yeah,
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: but in recent times he's looked after a few Southenders
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: and managed to get some people tickets when they needed them, so.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: You reckon Eden Park's got the best catering?
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: It's got a lot of downsides around it.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: You reckon the catering there for the media is pretty top-notch?
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe it's sacrilegious to say anything negative about our
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: national stadium, but I've never been a massive fan of
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: my previous experiences of Eden Park. Maybe it's because most
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: of the time I've been watching Southland get absolutely thumped
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: by an Auckland team and and had Auckland media staring
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: down their nose at me. But I must say, if
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: there's one positive of Eden Park in my experience, that
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: the catering in the media box was probably as good
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: as I've seen it at any stadium around the country.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Well, you're lucky you're not having to fork out a
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: second mortgage to buy a round of drinks.
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it was free drinks too, to be fair,
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: which always keeps the media pretty happy.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Hey, good on you, Nathan. We'll leave it there. Antlers up.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: Antlers up, mate.
• 42:26
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• 42:29
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• 42:31
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• 42:34
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• 42:40
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• 42:45
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• 42:48
  Speaker 1: We'll leave it there for the afternoon. I'm Andy Muir.
• 42:50
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• 42:52
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• 42:56
  Speaker 1: 1 o'clock.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Hey, well, all right, sir. Here we go there, and
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: what are they going to give for?
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: PGG writes in, present stock selling action, which occurred at
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: the Charlton sale yards this morning. Dave Morrison's on the
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: line once again to give us an idea of prices.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Teagle, how do we fare?
• 43:14
  Speaker 8: G'day, Andy. Good sunny morning this morning from Charlton. Once again,
• 43:18
  Speaker 8: a small to medium yarding. Just up the lambs, we
• 43:22
  Speaker 8: had a couple of pears which did touch over $ 400 again, but,
• 43:25
  Speaker 8: you know, very large lambs. Medium lambs, sort of $ 250
• 43:29
  Speaker 8: to $ 280, with the lighter of the prime lambs, again,
• 43:33
  Speaker 8: sort of just that sort of early $ 200s to $ 220s.
• 43:36
  Speaker 8: Into the ewes, small yarding of ewes there today, Andy,
• 43:39
  Speaker 8: but we did tip over the $ 300 there again for
• 43:42
  Speaker 8: the heavy ewes. Medium ewes, sort of $ 220 to $ 240
• 43:46
  Speaker 8: with the lighter ewes. Just scrambling again, around $ 140 to $ 150,
• 43:51
  Speaker 8: but very, very light use it is. Use of lambs today, Andy.
• 43:56
  Speaker 8: I believe that, I just didn't quite see it there,
• 43:58
  Speaker 8: but I believe that they made 152 to 154 all counted,
• 44:01
  Speaker 8: use of lambs. A couple of wee lines there. Store lambs, yeah,
• 44:06
  Speaker 8: battling away a wee bit now. Obviously, some of them
• 44:09
  Speaker 8: are just getting a wee bit too small to finish
• 44:12
  Speaker 8: and kill with time before they cut their teeth, et cetera.
• 44:15
  Speaker 8: And that wraps it up, Andy.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: That is Pap Fitzgerald.