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Can the Carolina Panthers BREAK the curse against the Chicago Bears? · C3 Panthers Podcast: Carolina Panthers

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  [UNKNOWN]: can the Carolina Panthers break that first week curse the Panthers haven't won a home opener since 2021 and they're hosting the Chicago Bears as three point underdogs.
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  [UNKNOWN]: we've got that.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We've got Ricky Reigns coming on the show around 10 o'clock.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Our player in season props from passing TDs to missed extra points and even as many tackles as Devon Lloyd will have this season.
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  [UNKNOWN]: That in a preview of the Chicago Bears coming to Carolina is the C3 Panthers podcast.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Let's rock.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Tell your darling, and not to it, but to do it, brother, let's roll!
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  [UNKNOWN]: If this is the end of this podcast Wow, wow!
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  [UNKNOWN]: football is back.
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  [UNKNOWN]: In fact, it starts tomorrow night and the Carolina Panthers will be playing Sunday at 1 o'clock hosting the Chicago Bears.
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  [UNKNOWN]: You're listening to the C3 Panthers podcast.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The longest run at Panthers podcast.
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  [UNKNOWN]: That means it's Tuesday night.
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  [UNKNOWN]: It's 9 p.m. And we're chopping up the latest Panthers news and opinions from the fan perspective.
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  [UNKNOWN]: My name's Tony Dunn.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Cody Lack is my will man.
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  [UNKNOWN]: How you doing my friend?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Tony Don, this Sunday night, Sunday morning weather evening, whatever, on Sunday, there is Carolina Panther for Bob Baby, we have to enjoy this time.
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  [UNKNOWN]: because sometimes our season feels like it's over before it starts.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So that's remember this time when everybody's pumped, everybody's feeling good.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We get to play the Chicago Bears to open up the season.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Tony, we have so much to talk about.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We have a jersey schedule.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We have the final depth chart by the Carolina Panthers.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Jonathan Brooks has been on the
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  [UNKNOWN]: But you know we would never dream of doing this show without the best damn Panther fans and all of YouTube You know my love.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I'll make up Kristen Butler in the building see pod Harvey London
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  [UNKNOWN]: John B Jenkins go fish Michael Wedrick my boy what's up bro Sean Butler that capped in Panther gal back in the building and we are the hope Deal it Tony done and not to it but to do it brother.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Panther's football is upon us Let's roll
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• 3:32
  [UNKNOWN]: We've got Ricky Reigns around 945.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I think he just messes me 945 is what we're looking at.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe 10 at the latest at Ricky Bo body.
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  [UNKNOWN]: host of the Bob body show and Panthers on tap.
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  [UNKNOWN]: He is a great technical insight into this team.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Can't wait to see what he thinks about this preseason.
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  [UNKNOWN]: What it reveals.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And maybe he can get in on some of these prop over and under.
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  [UNKNOWN]: C.K.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I've got one prop over and under in store for Cody Lack.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And that is Haines King's touchdowns.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, two and a half is the number I've said it all over baby Now say hey, hey save it save it.
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  [UNKNOWN]: See K the band with the golden pipes my friend my pal my buddy.
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  [UNKNOWN]: How you doing?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, man, I'm just happy to be able to say that this is a Tuesday night preview of the coming game on Sunday.
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  [UNKNOWN]: It feels like it's been a long time since we've been able to say that so it's awesome that tomorrow night we're going to have some some football to be able to talk about or even watch with regard to the Super Bowl rematch.
• 4:39
  [UNKNOWN]: And, uh, I mean, you know, listen, it's going to be nice tomorrow to have me on Sunday to have some answers.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Um, I know it's not all the answers, but we're going to get at least a preview of the test.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Um, about what we're dealing with with this Panthers team, because everything up to this point has been.
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  [UNKNOWN]: and in fodder.
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  [UNKNOWN]: It's nothing that's actually something that's worth grabbing a hold of except for narratives that are meant to either make us feel better or to allow us to confirm our biases.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Sunday, we no longer have just our opinions to hold on to.
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  [UNKNOWN]: It is going to be
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  [UNKNOWN]: hard cold football that we can lean into, we can learn from and we can discuss and I'm more in depth away.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So it's incredibly exciting to be able to go into the season with some hope, but also to talk about some of the craziness going on around the NFL will be exciting as well.
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  [UNKNOWN]: But yeah, super excited about where we're going with the podcast.
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  [UNKNOWN]: There's next few weeks in and beyond.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Talk about it's funny you say is that some of these narratives are just, you know, created narratives or, you know, they're swarming or clouding and shrouding.
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  [UNKNOWN]: will have actual evidence.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Sadly, I want to say sadly, but maybe hopefully now the narrative's just shift to this has been Johnson a coach that was corded by the Carolina Panthers when they were hopefully trying to land their head coach who was Dave Canales in the end refused to basically take the interview with the Carolina Panthers.
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  [UNKNOWN]: going back to that same moment.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The Carolina Panthers are hosting now.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Ben Johnson, coaching those Chicago Bears, who the Carolina Panthers made a mega trade with for to get Bryce Young, the following year that sets up Caleb Williams, who is now their perennial potential star
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  [UNKNOWN]: NFL wildly knows how to make a headline.
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  [UNKNOWN]: when they need to make a headline.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And if you're searching for some, the Ben Johnson Dave Canalis, the Bryce Young, Caleb Williams, the Brahms being the foe that defeated both of these teams in the playoffs.
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  [UNKNOWN]: While we are passing on those preseason storylines, we are opening up and looking into these new storylines
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, sir, listen, there's nowhere to start other than at the beginning and shout out to Panther guy with the five says tell bad data here's a couple of coffee to come back shout out to the bad daddy, but boys the Carolina Panthers have not won a home opener since 2021
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  [UNKNOWN]: on top of that day of the worst week one winning percentage in the NFL.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So Tony, you just mentioned all the reasons why they're the connections bank Johnson given us the cold shoulder.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We traded with the bears for price young.
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  [UNKNOWN]: It's the same picked that gave them Caleb Williams.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I think a lot of people even some price young defenders would say that we lost that trade considering how many players they didn't get from it.
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  [UNKNOWN]: But Tony, all that aside, this game, I mean, even just week one, knowing who the bears are, how they've been propped up to be this offensive jargon, on paper, they are a very good team, offensively and defensively.
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  [UNKNOWN]: that Carolina Panthers have a real opportunity to come out throwing hand makers, showing everyone that we are in a legit team, to look out for, by going out there and and upset in the Bayers.
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  [UNKNOWN]: This is a real opportunity for us to assert ourselves early in the season.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't want to get bogged down into the historical beef or saltiness about, you know, to be honest is that I don't like that who won the trade type talk and things.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I guess there's moments in the offseason, you've got to do those narratives.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And of course, you've got to encounter the discussion as we play the bears and Caleb Williams and Bryce younger playing out there as Ben Johnson, Dave Canales are across the field for
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  [UNKNOWN]: But at the same time, is that the trades were made.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The trajectories of these teams have been charted.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And to your point, Cody, is that this isn't about necessarily cementing that the trade was not a flop or who won the trade or Bryce Young is better.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Is you do have a convergence of two teams that won with the bears who had a much,
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  [UNKNOWN]: more pristine season than the Carolina Panthers did under Ben Johnson in his first year's head coach, one of the hottest teams, you know, the Panthers had their shares of up and down, up, their share of up and down, but both eventually both made the playoffs, the Panthers argue of both played the Rams, a juggernaut of a team, arguably the hands-on odds on favorite win the Super Bowl this year.
• 10:23
  [UNKNOWN]: and played them both to the wire I think the bear's game to old overtime or multiple overtime's Carolina comes down to the last player the game and you have a question of who is who's for real who's ascending and it will not just be determined in this game Cody but to your point.
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  [UNKNOWN]: this game for the Carolina Panthers, if they get shellacked problematic, I would say, I would say, man, I'm like, is like, oh, gosh, what is, is this a symptom of something deeper?
• 10:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Is this a bad opening?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Or if the Carolina Panthers come out in not only just play well, but beat this team.
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  [UNKNOWN]: creates confidence momentum.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And I will not say solidifies any storylines, but man, breaking that 2021, you know, it's what five years now, six, does it count six, 2021?
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  [UNKNOWN]: So it would be 22, 23, 24, 25.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So for this is fifth year, I have it on a one, the opener.
• 11:25
  [UNKNOWN]: It would be a great way to chart a positive course, and then those storylines become less
• 11:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they do.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And, you know, we're, uh, we're going to talk about the power rankings for my couple different publications coming up here soon, but again, most of those rankings have us near the bottom and the mid to low 20s, uh, some higher 20s, but either way, this is an opportunity.
• 11:57
  [UNKNOWN]: And, you know, you said that the trade, who won the trade, all that stuff that
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  [UNKNOWN]: But at the same time, it's not going to stop people from having those conversations about it.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And at the last, if we win the game, right?
• 12:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't want to do that.
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  [UNKNOWN]: No, here's the argument against that.
• 12:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Is if we clearly won that trade, we'd be talking about it constantly too.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, true.
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  [UNKNOWN]: True.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The thought of it is like right now, we're saying it doesn't matter because we're on the right now, what would be perceptively the losing side of that trade.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And it's made.
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  [UNKNOWN]: CK that's my argument doesn't matter because it's happened.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, it doesn't change the narrative, but the thing is that Panthers fans as a whole would not let their fans live it down if we clearly won that trade.
• 12:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, no, that's a great point.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And the good news is I don't think that they can come out and just say with just complete confidence.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, is that they want it by landslide.
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  [UNKNOWN]: If anything, it just is that it continues to surround is if Bryce is worth even a trade up at all.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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  [UNKNOWN]: or a starting position is going to be a long-term starting quarterback.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Ben Johnson did give Price Young some praise in saying he believed he truly believed he is an ascending player.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And Ben Johnson also said the Pantheon pointed out the Panthers finished the last year season and the back end of the season were back seven games in the top 10 defensively.
• 13:34
  [UNKNOWN]: have only gotten better.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So as a guy who wants to have the number one offense in NFL history, he is not underestimating at least in his press conference, the Carolina Panthers as an opponent, Cody, the Panthers have released their depth chart as of now going into this game.
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  [UNKNOWN]: They did, this is the final official depth chart in doing the 226 season.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And there have been a couple of changeups.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So earlier in the, I mean, even like a week or two would go dead, Cam Jackson has the starting defensive tackle.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Overly hunter, but now the hunters the second round pit this year is the starting nose guard for the Panthers They went by the ground the third at three tactic right there at Brown at three tech We got outside linebackers of Patrick Jones The second Jason Philips Devon Lord and Bobby Ocariken manning the middle to suck with thought they would
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  [UNKNOWN]: rounding it out with Mike Jackson, J.C. Horn, Trevon, Moring, and everyone's fan favorite Nick Scott.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Then on offense at wide receiver, we have T-Mac, Ted O'Row, I'm at Millen, J.L.
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  [UNKNOWN]: and Coker.
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  [UNKNOWN]: At left tackle, we have a sheet walker, left guard, Damian Lewis, sinner, little fortner.
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  [UNKNOWN]: right guard Robert Hunt right tackle my real feeling that's the one down really sort of hesitant about but we'll get into it tidying time you know what you got to do right now I'm really 100% why do you say if we're exactly that price young and Tuba Hubbard is listed as RB1 a handsome guy on the thin brooks yeah they also told us this before
• 15:24
  [UNKNOWN]: So it should be that way.
• 15:25
  [UNKNOWN]: It's definitely should be that way.
• 15:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I look at this lineup and we started with a defense CK and I got to say is that I think that the starting lineup is exactly how on paper it should be.
• 15:41
  [UNKNOWN]: And to me, I come back to this is the Bobby of Kereke edition makes this defense.
• 15:52
  [UNKNOWN]: It look is that what there's some push back on where Cody said is all the sudden it's the top five defense we made some shorts and some things people are talking about is here's the thing is that this defense without bobby okay you're looking at that lot is it's missing something right now you look at that start line up even with
• 16:20
  [UNKNOWN]: uh, I feel like that's a formidable team of formal unit right there with, and I think the OKRAK edition makes it that without that, it would have had to me what would have been a, a glaring weakness.
• 16:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 16:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I think the question I have for you guys is going to be around our secondary corner back specifically, right?
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  [UNKNOWN]: We don't have anybody obviously listed as a nickel corner back, but the question would be
• 16:51
  [UNKNOWN]: is the Chalsmith Wade or we will lead going to play a nickel corner role or do we think it's actually going to be J.C. Horn and allowing will lead to take that outside corner role or option number three.
• 17:08
  [UNKNOWN]: It is one of these linebackers going to be playing that corner position or that nickel like a double nickel tape.
• 17:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I tend to you can see them switched between Mike Jackson Bobby O'Karrickay and JC Horne.
• 17:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that this year at least I'm hoping I've seen indications that we're gonna be more versatile in How we line up and just I did talked about putting T-max in the slot
• 17:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I think you also have to be willing to put your best corner in the slot.
• 17:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Again, some of those bigger, you know, bigger body targets if it's a tight end.
• 17:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, it's really that option route that destroy you know what I'm saying is that why don't want to play in the slot is because he doesn't get limited to being a deep over across.
• 17:59
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, like is that they have these there's an optionality to the slot player.
• 18:04
  [UNKNOWN]: And if your, if other teams are doing that Cody, then putting, um, uh, uh, the most athletic corner.
• 18:11
  [UNKNOWN]: And to, to answer your question from my perspective, CK is that if we were going to have to draw it up where there is like a nickel corner listed, I would feel the most comfortable put in JC horn there and then having will lead.
• 18:29
  [UNKNOWN]: being the guy that is a kind of a traditional corner trying to be developed, even though he's a rookie, although Charles Smith's way played very well on this team and you are going to see multiple looks in this defense.
• 18:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think you're going to see multiple looks, but here's my question right now.
• 18:59
  [UNKNOWN]: three positions that you feel like if an injury happened to the first team that you feel like the second team is going to be able to manage effectively.
• 19:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Because I look at this, specifically the focus on the defense and I feel like the drop from first team to second team is massive at almost every single position.
• 19:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, how about this is, um, Patrick Jones.
• 19:30
  [UNKNOWN]: He suffers an injury.
• 19:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I think the Carolina Panthers have some some trouble.
• 19:34
  [UNKNOWN]: And that is, is that you're going to be relying on princely in my meal and to just be a all game type of presence and not that I don't think he can be a great player.
• 19:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I think, uh, CK that's exactly, um,
• 19:49
  [UNKNOWN]: the question and I think that's why I go back to Bobby O'Karekay is that without that that question would have been there from the very beginning is not even just if an injury happened but what is that like right is me what is cotton charaless actually bringing the tape yes or let's break it yeah exactly so to me just to answer your question I would like code to go next is
• 20:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm circling to be honest.
• 20:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm circling Patrick Jones this second on that list.
• 20:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, obviously you're circling Jalen Phillips.
• 20:20
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, I mean, any one of those, I don't think there's a ton of leeway there.
• 20:26
  [UNKNOWN]: And I argue too, is that you're probably looking at that interior is, again, I mean, this team we've seen what's happened if a dirt brown type injury happens.
• 20:37
  [UNKNOWN]: How do you, how does Bobby brown the third Lee Hunter
• 20:41
  [UNKNOWN]: and cam jacks and fill that void with those three players.
• 20:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think that we are as paper thin as we've been in the past, but it is certainly not like you need.
• 20:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I always say this with fantasy football is your number one draft pick does not win you the season, but sure can lose it for you.
• 21:02
  [UNKNOWN]: and you do not need one of these guys that's really not only a team leader and a true difference maker or a guy we brought in to be a difference maker to not be part of that difference.
• 21:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Yep.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So I'm actually going to go through a couple of those positions.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 21:18
  [UNKNOWN]: The outside linebacker position did you mention?
• 21:21
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm a bit real, but between Travis Gibson, who, by the way, was the highest graded player in all the preseason football amongst all 32 teams.
• 21:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Travis Gibson is a really good outside my
• 21:38
  [UNKNOWN]: I was very impressed with an outside linebacker during the pre-season.
• 21:42
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm weirdly okay if any of those guys have to play some meaningful snaps.
• 21:49
  [UNKNOWN]: To me, there are three glaring holes on this team when you talk about Dubsikay, and it's not on defense.
• 21:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Have we glanced over?
• 22:03
  [UNKNOWN]: like what are we talking about?
• 22:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Who is the backup left guard behind Damian Lewis?
• 22:08
  [UNKNOWN]: They don't have anyone listed.
• 22:11
  [UNKNOWN]: So are we too assumed that it's Cory Bullock?
• 22:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Who would be the backup right guard for Robert Hunt?
• 22:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Hey, here's another one.
• 22:19
  [UNKNOWN]: How about stone foresight?
• 22:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Is listed as the backup right
• 22:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Dude, it sucks so bad that Brady Christiansen had to be sent to IR already because man could this offensive line have really used a dependable name and face like Brady Christiansen going forward.
• 22:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, yeah.
• 22:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I agree with you.
• 22:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 22:44
  [UNKNOWN]: There is some paper and death, but to me, I'm more worried about it on that offensive line than I am the defensive line, especially considering how many injuries we had on that offensive front last year.
• 22:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry, but to me, that's a bit concerning.
• 23:01
  [UNKNOWN]: There's no scenario where we go into this season.
• 23:06
  [UNKNOWN]: with.
• 23:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, now, I think that the argument would be, well, they probably have somebody they think they could fit that left guard position that's maybe listed at another position.
• 23:13
  [UNKNOWN]: If that's the case, then they would have listed them at the left guard position, just like they did, Albert recent stone foresight.
• 23:21
  [UNKNOWN]: They don't have a problem double listing these guys at different positions if they need to.
• 23:25
  [UNKNOWN]: So that's the part that is concerning to me.
• 23:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I do not think there is a chance on this earth that we're walking into a scenario.
• 23:34
  [UNKNOWN]: I would love to say walking into week one with four tight ends and one left guard.
• 23:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Like that's wild to me.
• 23:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that is, and it can't get brings up that decision to carry five tight ends.
• 23:47
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like, I don't, I don't really understand it.
• 23:52
  [UNKNOWN]: But hey, the Panthers feel like they have a plan.
• 23:55
  [UNKNOWN]: They feel like they know how they want to start.
• 23:58
  [UNKNOWN]: this using the poor end of the left guard position if there's an injury like be some quick shuffling and adjusting um... backup center playing that guard and then automatically moving people around on private squad
• 24:15
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm making adjustments, do not expect having all those tight ends being a permanent component of this team or permanent luxuries should I say just a real quick super chat see dog the brand ambassador says the longest running Panthers podcast on you to appreciate you to see dog
• 24:39
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• 25:41
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• 25:50
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• 25:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, the Seattle Seahawks unveil their super bowl of banner in the opening game.
• 25:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I thought that was interesting.
• 26:00
  [UNKNOWN]: And my question is, why is that even a question?
• 26:04
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• 26:19
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• 26:23
  [UNKNOWN]: The Seahawks right now are three point favorites at home against the Patriots.
• 26:28
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• 26:35
  [UNKNOWN]: And look, I may not be an expert, but I certainly love football.
• 26:40
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm surprised that with all of the talk, with all of the injuries, with all of the circumstances facing the San Francisco 49ers from a, from an owner who's busted for prostitution to Kyle Shanahan, getting his Tesla to drive him home while he's drunk, allegedly to every injury to the substation,
• 27:04
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• 27:19
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• 27:32
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• 28:23
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• 28:25
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• 28:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm just going to do something small to make sure we keep this running.
• 28:34
  [UNKNOWN]: But I like the Rams to cover four points on the road.
• 28:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Does anybody disagree on the panel with that?
• 28:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I would go the under on points what's the points right now for the six for the six and a half on total points 48 and a half dear, especially with that these two teams
• 29:00
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I think that they're defensively built teams and I think it might all scare it here in Donald.
• 29:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's like Donald is not making the trip.
• 29:11
  [UNKNOWN]: They have another guy, they have another guy.
• 29:15
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• 29:17
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• 29:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, but whatever, they have another guy that had 12 and a half sacks.
• 29:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Actually, that is I can see this being a 28 to 14 game, which puts you at what 44, 14 42.
• 29:39
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• 29:41
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• 29:57
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• 30:01
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• 30:03
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• 30:07
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• 30:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I got all right, so moving on we already talked about this but there was a bit of a scare
• 30:17
  [UNKNOWN]: uh... Jonathan Brooks ran in practice but can now says that it remains a day today evaluation uh... serious that man's dead can now is again is it again we have to just keep taking it one day at a time
• 30:35
  [UNKNOWN]: He ran out there today and then we'll evaluate what he looked like, we'll see that and compare to what he looked like before and we'll go from there just to remind her that Jonathan Brooks in 2023 tore his ACL in 2024 tore his ACL and in 2025 missed the entire season
• 31:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, they can't, they be in, uh, overly cautious or are you starting to be like this or maybe not starting to be, let me tell you this is my question is, are they overly cautious in this moment or as a man right here who is, uh, who is a Jonathan book Brooks idealist, you know, and that is a believer that this guy could be a great player, but it requires obviously playing football.
• 31:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm from the biggest supporter.
• 31:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I think there has been on the internet for Jonathan Brooks.
• 31:37
  [UNKNOWN]: I have not just gone, oh, women, bus too much.
• 31:42
  [UNKNOWN]: They're still a chance.
• 31:45
  [UNKNOWN]: If this hurts me, it's like, I mean at some point, I'm like, what the, like, got to be on the field at some point.
• 31:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Overly cautious or concern arising.
• 31:56
  [UNKNOWN]: I think the Panthers as a whole are probably overly cautious on every one of the players they want to be contributors this year.
• 32:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think that's that's out of the question to expect that you're going to see this type of treatment for any of these guys on the team, especially given what to place with Nick Scordon.
• 32:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I just don't think that I think they're just being overly cautious where they need to be just to make sure that they're not, they don't want to go back to a scenario.
• 32:24
  [UNKNOWN]: where they're pushing people beyond where they need to be pushed and then they're being blamed for things like Jonathan Brooks getting injured in his first season because they brought him back too quickly.
• 32:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and you have to learn from your mistakes, right?
• 32:37
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, you're literally brought him back in 2024.
• 32:40
  [UNKNOWN]: When you really should have just let him rehab that entire season,
• 32:44
  [UNKNOWN]: And then it terraces ACL and you miss it's all 2025 now we're realizing that let's say that he does stay out to this year we only have this year and next to determine what kind of player he's going to be for the future of the Carolina Panthers so it's a very small window
• 33:04
  [UNKNOWN]: that we have to really evaluate what kind of player that's what I'm saying and do so I really think that they're they're treating him with cave gloves right now until the season starts up and full.
• 33:19
  [UNKNOWN]: They already named Trubo.
• 33:20
  [UNKNOWN]: They're starting running back.
• 33:22
  [UNKNOWN]: A. J. Taylor Nish.
• 33:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you have a J. David player in there.
• 33:26
  [UNKNOWN]: And they're going to try to work Brooks into this roster and not just throw him to the wall.
• 33:33
  [UNKNOWN]: He might try to be effective.
• 33:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I could see it.
• 33:37
  [UNKNOWN]: It's looking that way.
• 33:37
  [UNKNOWN]: You've been a week one.
• 33:39
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm looking that way.
• 33:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, why would you?
• 33:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody, what's next up?
• 33:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, next up.
• 33:46
  [UNKNOWN]: So I'm on this.
• 33:48
  [UNKNOWN]: now teams are starting to put out their power rankings and shout out to Pro Football Talk and catcrate.com.
• 33:59
  [UNKNOWN]: This sort of put together in the malagamation of the mall according to Pro Football Talk, the Carolina Panthers are 21 and I think this is reasonable.
• 34:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I would flip 21 but
• 34:15
  [UNKNOWN]: For the game, it's like you're splitting hairs at that point.
• 34:18
  [UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean?
• 34:20
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, and we're terrible.
• 34:22
  [UNKNOWN]: And to their credit, we're also the highest ranked NFC South team.
• 34:26
  [UNKNOWN]: So we'd argue that we need to be above the Vikings, given what they've showed us.
• 34:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Ooh, I think the Vikings have real chance to be a change team, that's complete team with us.
• 34:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I also think they're evaluating Kyler and Justin Jefferson very highly.
• 34:40
  [UNKNOWN]: great defense proven they've been there.
• 34:43
  [UNKNOWN]: If anything, I just feel like this is just a little giant love too much.
• 34:48
  [UNKNOWN]: But again, like you said, splitting hairs, Cody, there's nothing to be upset here about and I think the real story like you said has to come.
• 34:56
  [UNKNOWN]: is that, wow, that were the Saints aren't the first NFC cell team on this.
• 35:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well, they're taking, they've gotten too many injuries the past.
• 35:04
  [UNKNOWN]: This, this offseason to be able to be considered one of the top teams right now.
• 35:08
  [UNKNOWN]: But also to be fair, they basically consider the Panthers and the Buck and Eurasian are changeable.
• 35:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, because they have us down to spots and the Buck and Euras down one spot.
• 35:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Again, I don't have a problem with doing this and to be real, I feel like the media,
• 35:23
  [UNKNOWN]: generally ranked the Carolina Panthers fairly USA today has this 24 NFL media 23 ESPN Mike K have us at 23 pro football talk actually has us or no but then at the highest sports illustrated has just ranked at 20 CBS sports 23 PFT 21 athletic 24 and blitz report 22 so
• 35:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I think this is a little crazy here now and finishing the top two to 15 by the end of the season.
• 35:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 35:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that's just enough credit for a team.
• 36:00
  [UNKNOWN]: That's a sending.
• 36:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Yep.
• 36:03
  [UNKNOWN]: But you also have
• 36:05
  [UNKNOWN]: a ton of questions about, uh, and I think, well, you know, you can consistency.
• 36:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes.
• 36:11
  [UNKNOWN]: That's why we're the 20, 21, 24, nobody's put this in the top 20 because we have not been able to be a proven commodity at all for the past four or five, 10 years.
• 36:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, and so being able to, and let's be real about it.
• 36:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Last year, we proved ourselves in the playoffs, but we backed our way in.
• 36:29
  [UNKNOWN]: We didn't earn this spot.
• 36:30
  [UNKNOWN]: We were given that spot.
• 36:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, argue of this, you know, we can we can split here.
• 36:35
  [UNKNOWN]: So we would like and we earned it.
• 36:37
  [UNKNOWN]: We earned it.
• 36:38
  [UNKNOWN]: But we didn't we earned it.
• 36:40
  [UNKNOWN]: But we didn't win it at the end.
• 36:41
  [UNKNOWN]: We needed help.
• 36:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 36:43
  [UNKNOWN]: And just to put a cherry on top of that little Sunday.
• 36:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I also think it bears repeating and reminding everyone that the Carolina Panthers will be the least traveled team.
• 36:55
  [UNKNOWN]: in 2026.
• 36:57
  [UNKNOWN]: We don't leave SEC country gentlemen.
• 37:00
  [UNKNOWN]: We are in the southeast.
• 37:02
  [UNKNOWN]: We are not traveling very far and I do think that this could benefit us greatly.
• 37:09
  [UNKNOWN]: So football is here, man.
• 37:12
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm pumped.
• 37:13
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm ready for football.
• 37:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel the excitement of it.
• 37:16
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm pumped, Tony.
• 37:18
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm ready to
• 37:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I know this path is, yeah, very excited.
• 37:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Caroline Panthers, while they are, they have a number one schedule as winning the division.
• 37:27
  [UNKNOWN]: So there are, you know, three or four games, maybe two to four games on their schedule that are significantly different or noticeably different than their other division or division opponents in the Saints in the box.
• 37:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know if it's how big
• 37:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, the number one schedule, but it is that's where it hell is like those off games, but if you talk about those miles traveled, that's a real deal right there is that that number is so significantly low or or less than and like while we can point to San Francisco and the Rams clearly that number is insane because they are going to Australia.
• 38:11
  [UNKNOWN]: And that's its own outlier of what's going to happen is that the Panthers, if you just go 10 spots up, not yet 10 spots up, have half the distance.
• 38:23
  [UNKNOWN]: So I do think there is a small, I want to say advantage, but that's definitely not the detriment for this team, and so if you're looking for any inch in any moment to take to find that hope, but to get to not have a disadvantage, that's it, and I tell you, you want to watch something funky, and now I did not fact check it, but I just saw Kyle Shanahan talking about what day it was.
• 38:52
  [UNKNOWN]: and it being in Australia and he's like, I'm in the future and like, I mean, he was like, and he's like, I'm our schedule and I didn't, I won't say I didn't realize, but these NFL teams are so rhythmic and I am a schedule guy.
• 39:08
  [UNKNOWN]: As somebody who teaches for a living, I'm like, it's either Monday, Wednesday, Friday or Tuesday, Thursday.
• 39:13
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know which one it is.
• 39:15
  [UNKNOWN]: But I know where I'm at on that rhythm and what Kyle Sharon was saying is like Wednesday is our day that implements, but I don't know if it's Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, like, I mean, when he said, I'm in the future, I said, Oh, fuck, this thing really is a big transition.
• 39:32
  [UNKNOWN]: I can't imagine, and maybe the Rams are trying to treat it differently.
• 39:35
  [UNKNOWN]: They're just showing the toilets in the opposite direction.
• 39:44
  [UNKNOWN]: it'll be interesting to see how the end of the year plays out and if these miles traveled actually make a difference because then we can change the over-use statement of it's a game of interest to us a game of miles.
• 39:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, no, that's a great one.
• 39:57
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• 40:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah man, great to have you on the show.
• 40:39
  [UNKNOWN]: It's good to see you again.
• 40:41
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• 40:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 40:45
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• 40:56
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• 41:01
  [UNKNOWN]: I could tell I was like, all right, this leave this guy not alone in the weeds bro.
• 41:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I was in the weeds.
• 41:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Man, there was nothing I could even think of outside of that.
• 41:09
  [UNKNOWN]: And you were a release of the next day.
• 41:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the next time I message you, you're like, I got to catch up with the family.
• 41:15
  [UNKNOWN]: I was like, you better do that because football starts tomorrow.
• 41:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 41:19
  [UNKNOWN]: And you are on the precipice of every sportscaster or sports night.
• 41:24
  [UNKNOWN]: of divorce as the foot we have to you really got to make it through this season because it's going to put a lot on your rickie so thanks for taking the time and joining us we were going to go to Darren Waller Cody put this up real quick is Darren Waller.
• 41:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Panthers hit 20 miles per hour on road to the woohoo man, by the way, tighten three by the way, tighten three by the way.
• 41:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Right in fast.
• 41:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Waller is I thought a good segue to bring you in Ricky is, um, you know, what do you think that Panthers,
• 41:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, where they're at after this, I mean, and I don't even know how to tackle it.
• 42:01
  [UNKNOWN]: You take go ahead.
• 42:01
  [UNKNOWN]: You want is the, you know, we've, we've seen training camp.
• 42:05
  [UNKNOWN]: We've seen some tough cuts when it comes to trev and Wallace or some decisions that are made.
• 42:10
  [UNKNOWN]: We've seen some additions with Bobby of care, which I think is, to me, is this all of a sudden this defense is not complete, but ready right now on paper from the beginning.
• 42:22
  [UNKNOWN]: would have had a big question mark without it there.
• 42:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Darren Waller is one of these names that's added.
• 42:28
  [UNKNOWN]: They've carried a lot of tight ends.
• 42:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Where are you at?
• 42:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Comment out a train camp preseason and heading into week one with this roster and what you've seen from the Panthers.
• 42:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, I'm glad that you brought me in here, Tony, because you guys just got done talking about the roster of record predictions that a lot of these outlets have given us.
• 42:47
  [UNKNOWN]: It kind of that power ranking right where we're in that 20 to 24.
• 42:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I've seen a couple of 26 type of range and largely I agree with you guys that it's a fairly
• 42:57
  [UNKNOWN]: um fair way to talk about this team that they are borderline top 20 right one thing I would say is that when you look at those teams up there right above us right you you talked about the Vikings you talk about the giants and then the Steelers even I think that a lot of those are interchangeable I think you could move a lot of those around I think that we could be top 18 top 19 going into this season because of the way they have worked this roster a little bit
• 43:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I think the Jalen Phillips and Devon Lloyd additions to this defense are so significant that that defense of unit is the unit that took strides last season, right?
• 43:29
  [UNKNOWN]: We want the offense to take strides, but that defense, finally with a couple other pieces.
• 43:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Nick Scort, we know he's not going to play this year, but he was a big part.
• 43:36
  [UNKNOWN]: You get Jalen Phillips, he's going to be really good.
• 43:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Derek Brown's going to be back.
• 43:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Mike Jack Jacy Horn of Jc's going to start playing a little bit more inside.
• 43:44
  [UNKNOWN]: They've got a couple more guys at the back in there in the secondary.
• 43:47
  [UNKNOWN]: They've done a lot with that defense that I think that that's going to even improve more and that's going to help the offense.
• 43:52
  [UNKNOWN]: The other part for me, looking at the roster and looking at the coaching changes.
• 43:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Brad is at having his finger on the offensive pulse consistently throughout games.
• 44:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that his cadence, his sequencing, the things that he's going to do with this offense are really important.
• 44:05
  [UNKNOWN]: So we talk about roster personnel.
• 44:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I reposted something from, I believe it was Ryan Pagnetti, you said was with the Philadelphia Eagles when they wanted Super Bowl as an analytics guy.
• 44:15
  [UNKNOWN]: And he called it the NIL for the NFL.
• 44:18
  [UNKNOWN]: It was national insert leak because of these insert actions and motions that they're running a lot, specifically, Sean McVay, Shayna Hans.
• 44:26
  [UNKNOWN]: But we saw Dave Canalas do a little bit of that.
• 44:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Taco talks is one of the great online content guy for the Panthers community.
• 44:34
  [UNKNOWN]: And he broke this down over a year ago in September, where he was talking about how Dave Canalas started to flash a little bit of that and show that.
• 44:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, Brad Isaac did about three or four of those plays in the preseason.
• 44:43
  [UNKNOWN]: And that's not even with the first team, right?
• 44:45
  [UNKNOWN]: If that is something that they want to do by bringing in these five tight ends, keeping those on the roster.
• 44:49
  [UNKNOWN]: That's where you see the 13 and 11 personnel kind of interchangeability that they're going to start looking at that Sean McVay does.
• 44:56
  [UNKNOWN]: So I think that they've been very purposeful in the way that they built some of this roster.
• 45:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Monroe Freeling is in a tough spot, guys.
• 45:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think I have to tell you all that.
• 45:04
  [UNKNOWN]: You all know this.
• 45:05
  [UNKNOWN]: This is a rookie that's coming in.
• 45:07
  [UNKNOWN]: He's going to start on the right side.
• 45:08
  [UNKNOWN]: He's also filling in the shoes of Taylor Bowton who for the large part, let's just be honest about it, right?
• 45:14
  [UNKNOWN]: One of the only bad things you could look at for the past decade
• 45:18
  [UNKNOWN]: right this is not a third round or second round guy that's right with is that while he is in a tough spot and it might not be the most ideal you did believe and invest in him for position so it's like bad we're gonna have some grace but it's not the worst
• 45:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Absolutely, and he got the pedigree.
• 45:44
  [UNKNOWN]: He's still a phenomenal athlete, right?
• 45:47
  [UNKNOWN]: He's got the interchangeability left and right side.
• 45:50
  [UNKNOWN]: He'd never really played a overwhelming snap volume at either side, like he started the one year at left, but he's never done either in the NFL.
• 45:58
  [UNKNOWN]: So starting on the right side isn't necessarily hurting his development in my opinion.
• 46:01
  [UNKNOWN]: He's not a I've been year left tackle that has to try to play right you're asking to do something for in right and you are playing a next to Robert hunt and in that offensive light if Robert hunt could say healthy Damien Lewis they're going to help receipt walker in one row so I think that this roster is built man to pick up where they left off and improve personal.
• 46:20
  [UNKNOWN]: So Ricky what I you know see can I we're talking about this earlier.
• 46:25
  [UNKNOWN]: If anything, it's the depth behind Freeling and Walker that terrifies me.
• 46:31
  [UNKNOWN]: You have stolen four sides as you're back up left tackle and right tackle
• 46:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, we currently don't have a, or this on the depth chart, a backup left guard.
• 46:43
  [UNKNOWN]: So you're kind of guessing as to who that would be and considering how many times this offensive line was injured last year.
• 46:51
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like, man, you can easily see how that could get scary quick if things go the wrong way.
• 46:59
  [UNKNOWN]: We signed a break of Christians in the,
• 47:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Man, he would be a very welcome edition to have right now, but he's on IR.
• 47:06
  [UNKNOWN]: It just, it feels like, and this is true of every team of every season, but we're really hoping that these guys can stay healthy, you know, especially dimension robber hunt.
• 47:18
  [UNKNOWN]: if he goes down for whatever reason and he does have a bit of an injury to show you now that not only is he out but now your right tackle has a brand new record to his immediate left and now they're both kind of flower doing that could be bad very soon
• 47:36
  [UNKNOWN]: not just scary, it's terrifying, Cody.
• 47:38
  [UNKNOWN]: But that is, that is nightmare fuel for me, man.
• 47:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, when I think of the roster, that interior of the offensive line is where I have my biggest trepidations with this team, and it is one of the only places that I can't point to the roster.
• 47:52
  [UNKNOWN]: and say, man, that's got Dan Morgan's fingerprints on it, right?
• 47:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Because he knew that that interior was a big part, right?
• 47:59
  [UNKNOWN]: They bring in Robert Hunt and Jamie Lewis.
• 48:01
  [UNKNOWN]: They understand the importance and the value of those guys for this office and for this quarterback.
• 48:07
  [UNKNOWN]: But what is almost perplexing to me.
• 48:10
  [UNKNOWN]: There's no investment, there's no allocation to the backup spots.
• 48:14
  [UNKNOWN]: It's sort of like, well, look, we got Chandler Savala.
• 48:17
  [UNKNOWN]: We want to continue to develop and see what we could do with him.
• 48:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Unfortunately, man, like, there's a lot of film out there, all that.
• 48:22
  [UNKNOWN]: And it's not good.
• 48:23
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like the evidence isn't good, man.
• 48:26
  [UNKNOWN]: No, no.
• 48:27
  [UNKNOWN]: and and and Brady Krisis and I would love it man if Brady were 100% healthy come out there but Brady didn't even look 100% healthy when he was out there.
• 48:34
  [UNKNOWN]: He didn't look like he was all the way back to form in my opinion.
• 48:37
  [UNKNOWN]: He looked like he was still kind of rampant up and getting something.
• 48:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Do you think that's what it is Ricky because I mean and I don't doubt that and I don't doubt he's dealing with something.
• 48:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I also think that they needed some spots to the keep.
• 48:50
  [UNKNOWN]: some hate like a man like a hn i will ever physical at the end the uh... i feel like some of these had to be some strategic i are moves to to keep this week one roster end of season roster that they wanted
• 49:06
  [UNKNOWN]: with Brady, I saw him come up lame in the game and it worried me immediately.
• 49:12
  [UNKNOWN]: I believe it was Aaron Duncan and I was having a conversation with at the time shout out to Duncan on the man in the Panthers collective awesome stuff that they're doing too.
• 49:20
  [UNKNOWN]: But him and I both noticed that and we talked to each other the next play didn't look good either.
• 49:23
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, so he legitimately looked like he was struggling that there was a physical ailment that happened there.
• 49:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I guess the good news, the silver lining of that whole scenario is that it's a soft tissue thing and it wasn't a re-injury of a very significant injury that he just did.
• 49:37
  [UNKNOWN]: That was the, the, the, the, the, the, the injury they've listed.
• 49:42
  [UNKNOWN]: I, I think it was calf or something like that.
• 49:44
  [UNKNOWN]: If I remember.
• 49:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 49:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Is that right?
• 49:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it was.
• 49:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but also to your point, too, is that going back to the dead Morgan component and your prince is that is like say you give get Dan Morgan all the grace possible, like the best case he means, put all the money in the offensive line.
• 50:01
  [UNKNOWN]: He has done these things.
• 50:02
  [UNKNOWN]: He strategically fix some significant weaknesses like targeted targeted target.
• 50:07
  [UNKNOWN]: even the role with Savala kind of, which I don't think is interrible and theory going into the pre-sie into training camp.
• 50:18
  [UNKNOWN]: But Brady Christians, it was a very late ad.
• 50:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, it almost felt like it was like, well, I don't know, it was like, let's, we don't think anybody's gonna take them.
• 50:30
  [UNKNOWN]: It was a hamstring by the way, for brainstorming.
• 50:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 50:33
  [UNKNOWN]: But it didn't feel like to your point though, is that even Brady Christians and the greatest scenario seems a little less than intentionality
• 50:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, it's been an advantageality, but also he's, let's also keep it, you know, a buck 20 year rate.
• 50:51
  [UNKNOWN]: He was, I think a pretty effective player on this offense for a while, but I also think that he has taken a step back because of these injuries.
• 51:01
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's natural to assume this dude isn't going to be the same player.
• 51:04
  [UNKNOWN]: He was the first four or five years he played for the Panthers.
• 51:06
  [UNKNOWN]: And that day won anyway.
• 51:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 51:09
  [UNKNOWN]: no doubt about it.
• 51:11
  [UNKNOWN]: No, it was just to add to that.
• 51:13
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that it seemed like they had a lot of chips in on Chandler's of all his development, right?
• 51:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Because of those exact reasons that you talk about how late they were in the process, even bringing in Jake Kirin, right?
• 51:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Jake Kirin was a guy that only had one workout with another team and the NFL during the off season.
• 51:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I believe it was with the giants, I think, that they brought them in, they worked them out, didn't get a contract there.
• 51:33
  [UNKNOWN]: So we signed him, Brady Curses in again, familiarity.
• 51:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I think they feel comfortable with it.
• 51:37
  [UNKNOWN]: But there's no way that they looked at Brady and said, this is the first guy off the bench for us, right?
• 51:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Because he's had injuries.
• 51:43
  [UNKNOWN]: We don't know where he's at.
• 51:44
  [UNKNOWN]: He was still a utility guy.
• 51:45
  [UNKNOWN]: He was still a reserve player.
• 51:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Chandler's of all it was there playing.
• 51:50
  [UNKNOWN]: And it just wasn't the most prudent plan in my opinion.
• 51:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Now, that's not to completely just crap on Day of Morgan.
• 51:55
  [UNKNOWN]: He's done a lot in a little amount of time with his hands tied behind his back at times.
• 51:59
  [UNKNOWN]: And at least they cut mate with Chandler Savala rather than Yeah, and the practice was the same place for him right continue development nobody's I was I was more surprised by them moving on from traveling wall is the anything else You know, it seems like where you were talking about they sank a lot of resources into this player I mean while this was a starter the last two years and the fact that they were just willing to move on
• 52:26
  [UNKNOWN]: for a good watch and chair list behind no curriculum.
• 52:30
  [UNKNOWN]: That's that actually is I'm I'm heartened that Dan Morgan is moving into right direction as a leader in GM of this team of making enough decisions.
• 52:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah 100% but actually I do want to go to Darren Waller in that regard because Ricky I've been saying for a while that when we lost Chris Brasal.
• 52:52
  [UNKNOWN]: that really did shake up the plans that the Carolina Panthers had on offense.
• 52:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I think they really valued the idea of having a 6 foot 4 plus guy with a huge catch radius who can go up in high point of football and I think that they're wanting to give Bryce as many of those options as possible.
• 53:15
  [UNKNOWN]: The very mere presence of Brasal is what inspired them to want to move T-Mac into the slot more.
• 53:23
  [UNKNOWN]: So my question to you is, do you think that Darren Waller, even though the Titan room hasn't been wonderful?
• 53:31
  [UNKNOWN]: We have a lot of questions about T-Sanders and Mitchell Evans was okay last year, but nobody felt like we have a star Titan in the room.
• 53:40
  [UNKNOWN]: When they bring in Darren Waller, is that more of a critique on the tire den room or just more of, we want a big body to go up and get it red zone threat for Bryce to be able to pinpoint in those red zone situations where he feels confident just putting the ball up in a pinch and they'll come down with it.
• 54:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's a couple things, Cody.
• 54:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I think first of all, he had no one else calling him and you got him for dirt cheap, right?
• 54:11
  [UNKNOWN]: So like, what's the risk in that investment?
• 54:14
  [UNKNOWN]: If it doesn't work out in the off-season or if it doesn't work out in the regular season, it's guaranteed to be what about 1.25 million or something like that for making the country.
• 54:23
  [UNKNOWN]: That's an okay thing if it doesn't work out for you.
• 54:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Second, there's a familiarity with Darren Bebel, right?
• 54:29
  [UNKNOWN]: We saw him against us the Dolphins last season.
• 54:32
  [UNKNOWN]: He had a really good game against us.
• 54:33
  [UNKNOWN]: He's a seamstretcher.
• 54:34
  [UNKNOWN]: He can he can work that middle of the field.
• 54:36
  [UNKNOWN]: He offers a little bit more after the catch, which is something that right now, our room, our tight-end room does not have that, right?
• 54:43
  [UNKNOWN]: That is one of the most critical parts of that room that is just consistent in failure.
• 54:47
  [UNKNOWN]: And I don't mean failures in like they all suck their trash.
• 54:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean failures in it doesn't happen on the field.
• 54:52
  [UNKNOWN]: and they want to facilitate that, they want to work that in.
• 54:54
  [UNKNOWN]: But when we talk about those inserts, that's another thing.
• 54:57
  [UNKNOWN]: You bring up Brasal and you can use Darren Waller in the same way.
• 55:00
  [UNKNOWN]: If you want to get them some interesting release points to work in their full route tree, right?
• 55:05
  [UNKNOWN]: You don't always want to have them lined up in the same place.
• 55:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Those are guys that you can use in that insert kind of way.
• 55:10
  [UNKNOWN]: you get Darren Waller to run through the sea gap and get on a mismatch with a nickel who asked to cover the entire route tree on a guy who he just said ran 20 miles an hour, right?
• 55:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's a lot to count for, especially for a six foot five, 250 pound guy.
• 55:24
  [UNKNOWN]: That's not your typical slot guy that a nickel can line up with and say, hey, if we got to go speed for speed, I'm good.
• 55:29
  [UNKNOWN]: He's still a big guy.
• 55:30
  [UNKNOWN]: You toss it up to him over the middle.
• 55:32
  [UNKNOWN]: You're in trouble.
• 55:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Brasal was similar to that,
• 55:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Just to your point, Cody, though, about like the Brasal pick is what kind of gave them the nudge to move to Mackinside.
• 55:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it was a success that they saw with Tettaro McMillan inside last season that they said we want to do that regardless.
• 55:50
  [UNKNOWN]: A big part of that is going to be jailing coper self.
• 55:52
  [UNKNOWN]: because of Jalen Coker, who I think is the most versatile piece on that receiving group outside a T-Mac, if he can play outside and man that X or that Z, you know, or exactly get to play the Z and move around a little bit and then T-Mac can play that slot alignment.
• 56:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that that was always going to be in the plan similar to how I think the JC horn plan was always going to be there, but it helps when you have new players on the team that you can say they also help benefit that situation as well.
• 56:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, are we shocked that they've got while they're listed at tight in three on this step chart?
• 56:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think I am, man, like for me, it taught me tremble in Mitchell Evans or the keys to this room, like they just are because they want blockers.
• 56:34
  [UNKNOWN]: If they're gonna stay in 12 or 13 personnel, they have got to be good blockers.
• 56:38
  [UNKNOWN]: You look at what the Rams do.
• 56:40
  [UNKNOWN]: These tight ends when you're gonna run these insert motions in the run game, tight ends are gonna be responsible for sealing off an edge player.
• 56:47
  [UNKNOWN]: On that side, on an island by themselves, and a tackle is gonna be responsible for that in other situations.
• 56:51
  [UNKNOWN]: You got a feel good about that player being able to do that.
• 56:55
  [UNKNOWN]: That's not Darren Waller.
• 56:56
  [UNKNOWN]: And it's not J.T.
• 56:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Sanders.
• 56:58
  [UNKNOWN]: That's just the honest to God truth, man.
• 57:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Darren Waller has played in the NFL for a good amount of years.
• 57:03
  [UNKNOWN]: And he has never once been mistaken for a good run-blocking Titan.
• 57:07
  [UNKNOWN]: He is a fast-catching threat, and that is what he's going to do.
• 57:10
  [UNKNOWN]: How long before we drop from five to four Titans?
• 57:13
  [UNKNOWN]: I just can't keep CS keep in five all year.
• 57:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Hell, it might just be a similar, you know, with a 53-man roster, you guys know this.
• 57:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm sure you talked about it when you, when you did your roster breakdown, right, when they made the 53, you got 53 that make the roster, but 48 are your active game day, guys.
• 57:29
  [UNKNOWN]: So at least five, if not six, depending on how many offensive linemen you have active, at least five or six of those 53 are going to be an active on game day.
• 57:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I wouldn't be shocked if it's four tight ends active on game day.
• 57:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I wouldn't be shocked if JT Sanders is the odd man out.
• 57:43
  [UNKNOWN]: And then it's Dare Waller and Felipe Franks because Felipe Franks is going to be a core force special teamer who also shows a little bit of flashes on the offense Don't forget the guy's a former quarterback.
• 57:52
  [UNKNOWN]: He's been playing tight in for what three seasons So like he's still developing there in a very similar way that a guy like J. T. Sanders might be thought of as developing in that manner Do you think J. T. Sanders is on this team after the bi-week?
• 58:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, man
• 58:09
  [UNKNOWN]: And I say on the team that can, obviously, what I mean is like, like, oh, you could like a practice squad, but like, but like, there's been 40 eight, but like, is he a part of the team either on the, um, actively, and that 48, but also the game day in active, do you see him there after the body.
• 58:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it all depends on if somebody else offers him offers up and for him.
• 58:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Like I think that the Panthers are okay keeping him because I think that if he's an inactive on game day or if he's a let's alternate between him and Waller or don't forget they're well, we're only played what nine games last season.
• 58:48
  [UNKNOWN]: So yeah, he's on touchdowns though.
• 58:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, six touchdowns and what I was gonna say when you guys were talking about like, or when CK asked about him being listed as the three
• 58:59
  [UNKNOWN]: is I don't have an issue of not issue.
• 59:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not surprised he's listed as the third, but I could see him actually used more offensively in a schematic way than the other guys.
• 59:12
  [UNKNOWN]: So the other guys are all in those times where we don't care about the Titan and their play.
• 59:17
  [UNKNOWN]: But when the fan cares about a band of Titan is Darren Waller's in there making those plays,
• 59:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't dislike or like Jetevi and Sanders, but I think that when you're talking about how many offensive linemen can you run, I don't think you're going to have as much luxury on this team somewhere down the road.
• 59:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Is it keeping three quarterbacks?
• 59:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Is it keeping whatever an extra here?
• 59:44
  [UNKNOWN]: And to me, as like, I...
• 59:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know if it's a trade, a draw, like or anything, but I have a hard time, like CK say, and is us keeping this many, even if you're not active and bloating that spot when we have these giant questions that guard and different things, like we need to be bringing players in there, and I know it's a tough question, but I guess this is the only way
• 1:00:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 1:00:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, you know, a smart way to look at that Tony would be to also look at what you just talked about there are guys that are going to be coming back that are on IR with the intent to return right designated to return.
• 1:00:24
  [UNKNOWN]: You're talking about it.
• 1:00:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Kiacquano, if he gets healthy quickly, Taylor Moton, we don't know exactly what his status is, but as soon as he's healthy, they're going to bring him back and he's going to start he's going to play and then you talk about this issues and these other position.
• 1:00:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Yep.
• 1:00:36
  [UNKNOWN]: And then you're talking about Turkworton, too.
• 1:00:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Of those guys.
• 1:00:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know if he comes back.
• 1:00:42
  [UNKNOWN]: I think they they have every intent in him playing the season they they said that I meant it from what I've understood that they do believe he is going to play at some point this season But I guess what I try not high on it, but you think that's not high on it But I think that one of those guys so if you ask me, so you're gonna be here after the trade deadline a week five Those guys can return a week five if one of those guys is healthy I think that JT Sanders is gonna be one of the first few names on that shopping block to be off
• 1:01:06
  [UNKNOWN]: So no, I don't think that that's a high likelihood that he's there because I think that they could trade him if somebody wants to trade for him.
• 1:01:14
  [UNKNOWN]: If another team has an injury, I think that he makes plenty of sense for them to come and trade off or something low.
• 1:01:18
  [UNKNOWN]: And they say, well, look, we're going to end up cutting this guy anyways when the numbers need to kind of get situated for us.
• 1:01:23
  [UNKNOWN]: So by all means, if we can get a stick of gum or whatever form here, three before we just let him lose to the masses.
• 1:01:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Might not even get this stick of gum.
• 1:01:31
  [UNKNOWN]: That's great.
• 1:01:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Ricky, can I ask you the question?
• 1:01:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, tight ends are foreign, JT Sanders, all the stuff.
• 1:01:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Can we get down to the real meat of the sandwich here?
• 1:01:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, like the real, real questions is Hans King going to give us that.
• 1:01:49
  [UNKNOWN]: On the offense this year, dude, let's stop being around the bush.
• 1:01:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's get to what really matters to Carolina Panthers fans.
• 1:02:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I wasn't certain if I was allowed to drink on the show, but I'm really glad that I brought my beer.
• 1:02:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:02:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Just let you go.
• 1:02:05
  [UNKNOWN]: This is your essay question.
• 1:02:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I've been born in the cup just because I look like a lush half-to-tempe.
• 1:02:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's start it out because I'm not detracted from Cody.
• 1:02:15
  [UNKNOWN]: I want you to dress Cody straight up.
• 1:02:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:02:18
  [UNKNOWN]: No, no, no, no.
• 1:02:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Later on.
• 1:02:20
  [UNKNOWN]: It's all right.
• 1:02:20
  [UNKNOWN]: It's all right.
• 1:02:20
  [UNKNOWN]: It's all right.
• 1:02:22
  [UNKNOWN]: It's all right.
• 1:02:22
  [UNKNOWN]: It's all right.
• 1:02:25
  [UNKNOWN]: like a line-by-line instead of picking games we've already picked two early games we've already tried to pick division winners right I mean the filling time but this week and the fill time is we're doing a bunch of different little props is like
• 1:02:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, to be a Hubbard more than 55% of carries or something like this.
• 1:02:47
  [UNKNOWN]: So to let you address Cody's question, my prop later on, which is not now later on.
• 1:02:53
  [UNKNOWN]: It's now.
• 1:02:54
  [UNKNOWN]: We'll do it over under, hands, kings, hands, king touchdowns.
• 1:03:00
  [UNKNOWN]: This is passing receiving and rushing two and a half on the season over and under.
• 1:03:10
  [UNKNOWN]: question, the meat and potatoes bullshit could is not meat potatoes.
• 1:03:14
  [UNKNOWN]: That's it.
• 1:03:14
  [UNKNOWN]: It's your sandwich if that's okay.
• 1:03:16
  [UNKNOWN]: If the fans what they want, they want to know when hands can is getting the ball in the hands.
• 1:03:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I'll take the under and I'll feel pretty good about it.
• 1:03:32
  [UNKNOWN]: If this is meat and potatoes, Cody, this is some obscure, like, canned meat that only wanted to people eat, man.
• 1:03:37
  [UNKNOWN]: This is not like steak, it's not Russian, but they have more to me, right?
• 1:03:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you know, spam is a delicacy in Hawaii.
• 1:03:46
  [UNKNOWN]: It sure is, it is, and I don't even mean spam.
• 1:03:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm talking about something even more different than that.
• 1:03:51
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm talking like, full cook chicken in a can, man.
• 1:03:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's the meat that you're talking about, yeah, man.
• 1:03:56
  [UNKNOWN]: We're not talking about it, we're not talking about it.
• 1:03:58
  [UNKNOWN]: You're talking about flakes and birds in a can, brother.
• 1:04:02
  [UNKNOWN]: We're talking about canning whatever Excel catches No, but I'll say this because I saw a panther gal who also is a Watcher of the Panthers on tap and I saw her say that Ricky didn't think that Haines King was gonna make the roster.
• 1:04:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I didn't have it in mind
• 1:04:19
  [UNKNOWN]: on my roster that I would have done, I did not have been making it on the predictive roster for the Panthers.
• 1:04:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I did because I think that they are very intent on developing a low-cost backup quarterback.
• 1:04:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that is all this is though.
• 1:04:32
  [UNKNOWN]: I do not see Haines King as an integral piece or even a focal point even like in specialized situations for this offense.
• 1:04:41
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that if Haynes King plays and Cody, this isn't to crap on Haynes King, by the way.
• 1:04:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't want to make it seem that way.
• 1:04:45
  [UNKNOWN]: This is a young developmental player, but we saw him in one game in the Hall of Fame game against the Arizona Cardinals who were one of the NFL's worst teams, playing against their third and fourth and fifth string players, and that is all we saw.
• 1:04:56
  [UNKNOWN]: That is not to detract from his game.
• 1:04:58
  [UNKNOWN]: He had a nice showing, but that is all we have seen, and that is all the rest of the NFL has seen, right?
• 1:05:04
  [UNKNOWN]: And so I think what the Panthers did is they said, we want him on here because we want to continue developing.
• 1:05:08
  [UNKNOWN]: We're going to have these enactives.
• 1:05:09
  [UNKNOWN]: We can drop him.
• 1:05:10
  [UNKNOWN]: He could be an active.
• 1:05:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Right, but if he's keep this in mind too though, if he is one of the inactive, if he's not getting a bucket in a jersey on Sundays, he cannot be the emergency quarterback that you call up to come in and play for a down or two and then bring him back off the field.
• 1:05:24
  [UNKNOWN]: If he gets entered into the game as the emergency quarterback, he's in for the rest of the game.
• 1:05:28
  [UNKNOWN]: So you cannot sell out Bryce younger.
• 1:05:30
  [UNKNOWN]: You cannot sell about can he pick it if if Bryce is hurting, pick it's playing.
• 1:05:33
  [UNKNOWN]: You can't sell them out unless they're active roster players.
• 1:05:36
  [UNKNOWN]: If there are emergency, he's got to play the rest of the game when he comes in.
• 1:05:38
  [UNKNOWN]: So is there a world though?
• 1:05:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Is there a world though?
• 1:05:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Because I am with you.
• 1:05:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I didn't think that they were going to roster three quarterbacks.
• 1:05:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I didn't think they were going to have the luxury of being able to do three active quarterbacks.
• 1:05:50
  [UNKNOWN]: And I don't know if they're going to be able to do that throughout the season.
• 1:05:54
  [UNKNOWN]: So I have been kind of in that obviously in your camp, Ricky, about where I think.
• 1:05:59
  [UNKNOWN]: And I don't even know if it's like developing him,
• 1:06:05
  [UNKNOWN]: But we did see, was it last year or the year before where Bryce took that fourth and one that short yardage snap and could not sneak under.
• 1:06:18
  [UNKNOWN]: And then the next week, they were trying to do something different.
• 1:06:21
  [UNKNOWN]: And they can't live in that idea.
• 1:06:25
  [UNKNOWN]: So is there to, I guess, because I try to
• 1:06:33
  [UNKNOWN]: quarter back.
• 1:06:34
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't even necessarily see him being as large of an integrated role as a taste of the hill.
• 1:06:40
  [UNKNOWN]: But if we were around it out and not struggling as a roster at some point in the season, is there a idea that like, hey, this is where we can kind of work him in, and like, this is the type of package we bring him in.
• 1:06:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Not necessarily even go line, but we're talking
• 1:07:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Passed when you put them in and you don't know what he's going to do is you're going to run the ball Like he's gonna run it That's a very good But people are pairing the shade people very cliche talk about the taste of a hill roll and you know, he's not a tight-end Light taste of him.
• 1:07:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, this is not a running back light taste of him.
• 1:07:17
  [UNKNOWN]: He'll always taste me It was like other jack of all trades, but I'm saying could they design him some packages Seeing us out there kept him on the 53 man roster
• 1:07:28
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, Dave can now this basically said, he's a 25 year old dude.
• 1:07:34
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not like he's just some 20 year old young upstart that was a sea potential.
• 1:07:39
  [UNKNOWN]: And then to tone his point too, most teams aren't really in the business of developing a backup quarterback.
• 1:07:47
  [UNKNOWN]: So, is there any world in which they do try to scheme up some plays, specifically for him, just to keep the defense on their toes?
• 1:07:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe not plays that you're like, oh, we're going to use that this, but like, hey, man, that's fourth and one.
• 1:08:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's fucking bring this out.
• 1:08:04
  [UNKNOWN]: My point, too, is in, I guess we're just bombarding you here.
• 1:08:09
  [UNKNOWN]: is I was so not thinking this would happen, Ricky.
• 1:08:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I just didn't think that it was going to be worth it and worth it, but if you are going to keep them on the active, you might as well consider him a vibe like some sort like why would you even keep them on the active roster, you weren't even interested, potentially maybe using them on a worth and one Tony, you could you do you understand, like do you remember what the emergency quarterback rule is.
• 1:08:35
  [UNKNOWN]: No, because I don't want to get to that moment, though, like if we get to that moment, all is lost, like if Haynes King is our quarterback,
• 1:08:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Tony, you see, I'm looking to next year, you're missing out on the the point of why teams, because you're going to see it multiple teams keep three quarterbacks on their roster.
• 1:08:54
  [UNKNOWN]: And it's because they saw a lot.
• 1:08:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:08:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:08:57
  [UNKNOWN]: You have the new, the rule that they implemented.
• 1:08:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, they're not a part of the active.
• 1:09:01
  [UNKNOWN]: They're not competitive, man.
• 1:09:03
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like the worst case scenario.
• 1:09:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, you can pull up a third quarterback from an inactive slot without taking up the 48 that
• 1:09:15
  [UNKNOWN]: But if that point if I'm fucking crying on Sunday, well, you might be, but my point is is that I think there is a real example where Haynes Keynes doesn't get a single snap on this offense.
• 1:09:28
  [UNKNOWN]: He's just an active for the whole year.
• 1:09:30
  [UNKNOWN]: The whole year.
• 1:09:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I can do that.
• 1:09:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Now, the only way you're seeing him, it takes snaps is that he ends up having an injury to Kenny Pickett or to a Bryce Young.
• 1:09:42
  [UNKNOWN]: And then you're having that scenario pop up.
• 1:09:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I just don't think that we're going to see them.
• 1:09:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Because here's the difference.
• 1:09:49
  [UNKNOWN]: We're hearing the TASAM Hill conversation a lot.
• 1:09:54
  [UNKNOWN]: While Haines King can be a dynamic player, he is not a Taseem Hill.
• 1:09:59
  [UNKNOWN]: He is not the body type of a Taseem Hill.
• 1:10:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Taseem Hill is the type that's gonna run people over who is gonna be able to play that tight-end role.
• 1:10:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Haines King is not a tight-end body.
• 1:10:08
  [UNKNOWN]: He isn't, he isn't, he isn't, Taseem Hill was a tight-end body.
• 1:10:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Who played quarterback?
• 1:10:14
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the way that that's the difference there.
• 1:10:16
  [UNKNOWN]: In my opinion, and I'll let Ricky make his opinion on that as well.
• 1:10:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I did, that's just what I look at it like.
• 1:10:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I agree with your take, honestly, I think that my assumption would be that if things go well this season, then Haines King will be inactive for 17 games, that's if things go well.
• 1:10:36
  [UNKNOWN]: The other end of that, though, is to Cody's point about, can they figure out a way to bring him in?
• 1:10:41
  [UNKNOWN]: I think the first thing they've got to do, though, is get this offense, the actual offense situated in performing at a consistent level and at a high level.
• 1:10:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I, you know, I have a euphemism that I've said before on our show and I don't want to be super vulgar on yours because I don't, you know, I don't like bringing my trash to the love it.
• 1:10:57
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't say here.
• 1:10:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 1:10:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, well, what I said, my euphemism is it's like trying to get your dick stuck to a donut, right?
• 1:11:04
  [UNKNOWN]: You don't have to use the donut, man.
• 1:11:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Like the original act is cool enough, right?
• 1:11:08
  [UNKNOWN]: You have to figure out your offense first before you try to get cute.
• 1:11:11
  [UNKNOWN]: So I think that if you're talking about we need to make packages for hanging, hanging, hanging.
• 1:11:15
  [UNKNOWN]: We don't know what we're doing with the actual offense yet.
• 1:11:17
  [UNKNOWN]: We don't know what this looks like this season.
• 1:11:19
  [UNKNOWN]: And I want to see Brad Idzick and I want to see Bryce Young and I want to see Jeba and Jonathan Brooks and this offensive line.
• 1:11:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to see Xavier Lee get.
• 1:11:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to see Jalen Coker stay healthy.
• 1:11:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to see the tight end usage actually turn into something.
• 1:11:31
  [UNKNOWN]: All of those things are points of emphasis that I think you have got to figure out and really work on before you start saying.
• 1:11:37
  [UNKNOWN]: But hey.
• 1:11:38
  [UNKNOWN]: We might need to keep Hane's King active on all these games because what happens if two plays at a game?
• 1:11:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Are the games or the games that we need Hane's King?
• 1:11:46
  [UNKNOWN]: If that's what we're up against guys, we haven't done well with all the other things.
• 1:11:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Or the flip side of that is if you can't figure it out.
• 1:11:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Then maybe you can't figure it out that you have to like continue to try to that's a problem make it exciting by putting a doughnut on it right right and maybe it can get to Jersey right right let me it's because I am enough with the I'm Cain's king I don't want to talk about it really I want to go back to your back pants was famed
• 1:12:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I was excited.
• 1:12:18
  [UNKNOWN]: I thought that the move to Brad's bread is that you brought it up when you came on you started.
• 1:12:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I thought this was a good move for Dave Canales.
• 1:12:29
  [UNKNOWN]: And while you can argue, oh, what we hired an offensive to coach because we wanted to be offensive.
• 1:12:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that
• 1:12:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Having an offensive.
• 1:12:39
  [UNKNOWN]: This has been my take Ricky.
• 1:12:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Let me just put my take out on this is that I think you can hire an offensive coach.
• 1:12:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Wow, yes, there are these kind of savants that can do all of it.
• 1:12:49
  [UNKNOWN]: A lot of them have been in the league and Andy Reed has been there in every situation.
• 1:12:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Then you have the shanna hands that are kind of the savants in this.
• 1:12:58
  [UNKNOWN]: is I think having offensive coaches, a benefit, Brad is it can be his offensive coordinator, Brad is it fucking thrives and does great.
• 1:13:05
  [UNKNOWN]: It moves on.
• 1:13:07
  [UNKNOWN]: You have enough of a base offensive philosophy to not be destroyed by him moving on.
• 1:13:13
  [UNKNOWN]: I thought this was good for Dave Canales as in trying to over like is like now again one of the hardest things for people even like myself in management roles is delegating responsibility and you know you want to be part of everything you want to like so I thought this was a positive move for the Carolina Panthers.
• 1:13:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Where do you see the stakes for the Carolina Panthers going into this season?
• 1:13:39
  [UNKNOWN]: And I don't need you to be crazy like it.
• 1:13:42
  [UNKNOWN]: But like to me, I think this is a big season.
• 1:13:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I think in arguably we could get in the weeds about Bryce Young, which everybody will at some point.
• 1:13:51
  [UNKNOWN]: But I think this is a big year for Dave Canales.
• 1:13:56
  [UNKNOWN]: And I don't know if it's make it or break it.
• 1:13:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I think he's second on the odds list to get fired.
• 1:14:01
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't necessarily want or need or hope he gets fired.
• 1:14:06
  [UNKNOWN]: But I do think that this was a strong move for this team to overal for him to perform better as a coach.
• 1:14:17
  [UNKNOWN]: 100%.
• 1:14:19
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that a lot of people really
• 1:14:21
  [UNKNOWN]: and fairly I am not judging the people they got caught up in this but a lot of people got caught up in this quarterback whisper narrative about Dave canalis and about him being the greatest well in in his exes and owes as an offensive guy wasn't his calling point man like that wasn't here his his time at Tampa Bay they were middle of the pack and with a lot of talent they were middle of the pack they had to gain five in ten times better
• 1:14:46
  [UNKNOWN]: there was a lot of people.
• 1:14:47
  [UNKNOWN]: There's a lot of Tampa Bay fans and a lot of Tampa Bay content guys that will sit there and they'll tell you they'll like, man, it was frustrating at times.
• 1:14:53
  [UNKNOWN]: What can I was?
• 1:14:54
  [UNKNOWN]: But it was also his first year as a playcaller.
• 1:14:58
  [UNKNOWN]: This is a guy who was still green to that element of the game.
• 1:15:01
  [UNKNOWN]: But what he learned was the team building.
• 1:15:04
  [UNKNOWN]: He learned how to be a CEO type of coach from Pete Carroll.
• 1:15:08
  [UNKNOWN]: He always talks about being an underling of Pete Carroll.
• 1:15:10
  [UNKNOWN]: People might
• 1:15:16
  [UNKNOWN]: He was a people person that motivated a team and brought in the right people as you just spoke about Tony delegated to the right people to do the jobs and he also had people underneath him that continued to develop one thing they've now said that we all kind of took the wrong way and we kind of realized what he meant was well we're a developmental staff we thought that meant developing the players right that that's the first thing we thought.
• 1:15:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Then you start seeing them hand off the play calling responsibilities to different position coaches and coordinators in the preseason because they're giving coaches the opportunity to get their feet wet in the arena that they've never been able to get their feet wet in before.
• 1:15:50
  [UNKNOWN]: They're developing the staff for a situation like this where if Brad is it does exactly what you just said he comes out and he blows the roof off with his abilities as an offensive coordinator and Bryce Young takes these leaps and bounds and everyone says, oh man Brad, it's it's just Bobby
• 1:16:05
  [UNKNOWN]: like he should go and get an offensive coordinator job or a head coach and job we remember what happened to slow it first of all pump the brakes right one year wonder isn't it but I think that this is a situation where even if Brad finds wild success and somebody wants to coach him and take a chance on him I'm not sure that happens but if somebody wants to do that
• 1:16:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, set as zero.
• 1:16:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think every set is zero because first of all, I don't think it's just about Canalists.
• 1:16:27
  [UNKNOWN]: They really like Berke Vici, the quarterback coach.
• 1:16:30
  [UNKNOWN]: They really like him.
• 1:16:31
  [UNKNOWN]: They've got other quality control and position guys back there that they really like on the offensive side.
• 1:16:36
  [UNKNOWN]: They're developing this staff for longevity.
• 1:16:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think Dave Canalist's job is in peril at all this season personally.
• 1:16:42
  [UNKNOWN]: I do not think that.
• 1:16:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I think this is a huge year.
• 1:16:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think it's incorrect to oversell how important and pertinent the season is for the care a lot of banners.
• 1:16:52
  [UNKNOWN]: But I think it's more from a personnel standpoint that it is for a coaching staff standpoint.
• 1:16:55
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, I think they like Ebro, they like Dave Canales, they like Brad, it's it, but Bryce Young, Jonathan Brooks, some of these defensive players, this is a moment for them to prove that they're staples and that they need to get paid to stay here.
• 1:17:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Otherwise, it is time to pivot.
• 1:17:10
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, I'll follow up with this and I am the most, it's CK and I are the middle of a row of people on this show, but think of a doomsday scenario.
• 1:17:22
  [UNKNOWN]: And I don't want it.
• 1:17:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I do not want it.
• 1:17:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm rooting.
• 1:17:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think it's going to happen, but
• 1:17:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Say this is a real walk back, right?
• 1:17:33
  [UNKNOWN]: And a walk back from eight wins could be five wins.
• 1:17:38
  [UNKNOWN]: That does not have to be a two-wind season, but a walk back.
• 1:17:42
  [UNKNOWN]: It does raise questions or we can, we don't want to get into the Twitter verse of Bryce, love, Bryce haters, this and that.
• 1:17:52
  [UNKNOWN]: But after this season, you are in a spot, then if there is a walk back is that the quarterback is not going to be the answer.
• 1:18:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Doesn't mean that he's not in the league anymore.
• 1:18:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Doesn't mean it doesn't.
• 1:18:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm like none of that.
• 1:18:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, is do you see a scenario where the quarterback or like where Dave can Alice survives and Bryce young doesn't and because this is where I've kind of just been at is it's kind of weird for me to think of a world where Bryce young doesn't step forward steps back doesn't survive, but then you're like, you know what, we like Ted Lasso enough.
• 1:18:37
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know, I mean, that's just, do you think there's a world where everybody's or what one where Dave can now us could survive that setback?
• 1:18:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I do, honestly, I won't say that I think that it's probable that that's the end result of this season because as you said, I believe in Bryce Young's ability to execute an NFL offense.
• 1:19:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that he's a really smart player and I think that he's shown that between the years part of his game, I think that that is on display.
• 1:19:07
  [UNKNOWN]: You can have the conversations about Armstrong that I think that it's a fair conversation because Bryce Young does not have a lead arm strike and he won't just argue with you.
• 1:19:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Anyone that says that he has a lead arm strike though is just gas lighting and I am a very big price young fan and I am a believer in price young.
• 1:19:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I believe that he will prove it this year.
• 1:19:27
  [UNKNOWN]: I truly do.
• 1:19:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that he has a real command of it.
• 1:19:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I think the bridesick is a great thing for price young.
• 1:19:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that his development with Teteron Macmillan continues Jalen Cooper.
• 1:19:36
  [UNKNOWN]: He loves Jalen Cooper.
• 1:19:37
  [UNKNOWN]: And he's got do before like you have to say that as a Panthers man there.
• 1:19:42
  [UNKNOWN]: that I have to like sell it almost yeah yeah well is that like yeah because I mean you saying I believe like I don't know if I believe I don't disbelieve well there's a lot of candy are you do you feel obligated a little no I don't get it I just don't
• 1:20:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's planning my flag so that there's not confusion, just for me personally, right?
• 1:20:04
  [UNKNOWN]: But I think you talked to Jacksonville Jaguar's fans.
• 1:20:06
  [UNKNOWN]: There's a, there's a Bavvy of Jacksonville Jaguar fans that don't believe in Trevor Lawrence, but there are a lot of Carolina Bait the fans that would give up three-fourths of this roster to get Trevor Lawrence here.
• 1:20:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Did he's on the fucking show?
• 1:20:21
  [UNKNOWN]: It's, this isn't, this isn't secluded or isolated to strictly care a lot of Panthers.
• 1:20:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that it gets really sensationalized because Bryce Young is small, and because there are preconceived notions about Bryce Young for when he came out.
• 1:20:33
  [UNKNOWN]: People did or didn't like him.
• 1:20:35
  [UNKNOWN]: He failed pretty drastically as a rookie, and that is with a ton of context.
• 1:20:40
  [UNKNOWN]: But that rookie season I think is the one that still is at the forefront of a lot of people's minds.
• 1:20:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think you take much from the sophomore and third season and actually say that you don't see development.
• 1:20:50
  [UNKNOWN]: There is true development from statistical points, from game film points, what are any kind of metric?
• 1:20:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Any kind of efficiency metric?
• 1:20:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:20:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:20:59
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm not being a dick.
• 1:21:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Sure.
• 1:21:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Sure.
• 1:21:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Surely want to know like what it was because I think it's a nice as more that he's been up and down.
• 1:21:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, he's never Take it.
• 1:21:12
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to say I need him to take over a game.
• 1:21:15
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't need the he has taken over a game.
• 1:21:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I think what I don't even need that.
• 1:21:18
  [UNKNOWN]: I think the one thing he did last year And started to do the year before was is that the turnovers went down
• 1:21:27
  [UNKNOWN]: right as like to me that's the one thing I saw and again I'm leaning I'm asking these questions not as trying to poke I am not I'm not poking I want to know because I don't do the draft guides I don't do that I mean and I but I have I'm an artist football guy and I was looking
• 1:21:52
  [UNKNOWN]: And so I guess Alabama just got my algorithm.
• 1:21:55
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm looking at these tweets from when Bryce was at Alabama making what was the reason you drafted him.
• 1:22:05
  [UNKNOWN]: But one thing that stuck out to me is he dropped back like seven yards in this pocket.
• 1:22:12
  [UNKNOWN]: And this pocket was so clean, clean.
• 1:22:17
  [UNKNOWN]: And I just, and I, and this is the only thing is like, I don't, I don't need them have the greatest arm strength.
• 1:22:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Like I know he does it.
• 1:22:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Like I know he just doesn't, but like he can make a deep throw.
• 1:22:27
  [UNKNOWN]: He can do this.
• 1:22:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 1:22:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I know he's not going to roll over mugs and do this.
• 1:22:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't need all of that.
• 1:22:33
  [UNKNOWN]: But I just with Ricky.
• 1:22:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm just being honest.
• 1:22:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:22:37
  [UNKNOWN]: What I saw on those two clips and it's such a small sample set.
• 1:22:40
  [UNKNOWN]: So I know it's not real science.
• 1:22:43
  [UNKNOWN]: But it was like, damn, he did this.
• 1:22:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, it's like, oh, he.
• 1:22:47
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like this is why we're drafted.
• 1:22:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I was like, man, there's nobody fucking around him.
• 1:22:51
  [UNKNOWN]: And that is not going to happen in the NFL on the day to day basis.
• 1:22:55
  [UNKNOWN]: So tell me those metrics where you really have seen the success of going up.
• 1:23:01
  [UNKNOWN]: And to me, the one I point to is the turnovers have gone down.
• 1:23:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
• 1:23:06
  [UNKNOWN]: The turnover to touchdown ratio, right, has as increased in an exponential way was a 26 touchdowns, 10 touchdowns or 10 interceptions last season.
• 1:23:14
  [UNKNOWN]: That's what you need.
• 1:23:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 1:23:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's you got to have that type of thing.
• 1:23:18
  [UNKNOWN]: The the run game for him also became a little bit more of a
• 1:23:22
  [UNKNOWN]: second nature for him.
• 1:23:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think that it was something where he was doing it only out of bare necessity.
• 1:23:27
  [UNKNOWN]: He's a creator.
• 1:23:28
  [UNKNOWN]: He's an extender of plays.
• 1:23:29
  [UNKNOWN]: But I think that you saw him even take opportunities where maybe he could have sat there and continued his full field read.
• 1:23:34
  [UNKNOWN]: And instead he took an avenue and he ran.
• 1:23:36
  [UNKNOWN]: There's still opportunity for him to grow in that.
• 1:23:39
  [UNKNOWN]: But if we're talking about just the measures, right?
• 1:23:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Just the statistical stuff.
• 1:23:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't have my list in front of me.
• 1:23:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I did this for a show.
• 1:23:45
  [UNKNOWN]: That was fine.
• 1:23:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm absolutely fine.
• 1:23:46
  [UNKNOWN]: It was like, it was like completion.
• 1:23:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, you're good.
• 1:23:48
  [UNKNOWN]: It was like completion percentage.
• 1:23:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Obviously, yards passing, but that's because he played more games.
• 1:23:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Yards per attempt.
• 1:23:55
  [UNKNOWN]: His deep passing efficiency, I believe it was his EPA per play, per dropback, his success rate from an offensive standpoint.
• 1:24:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Obviously, you have the fourth quarter come back, right?
• 1:24:05
  [UNKNOWN]: The, the, the game.
• 1:24:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, there was an early blown stack.
• 1:24:08
  [UNKNOWN]: And it is.
• 1:24:09
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not a statistic that I was one.
• 1:24:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I wouldn't take that in a vacuum right by itself and say that's why he's a good quarterback.
• 1:24:19
  [UNKNOWN]: But I think it's missing it correct.
• 1:24:21
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that this missing it as meaningful.
• 1:24:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I think is also a little bit funny, especially when we talk about guys like a Justin Herbert or Trevor Roberts, right?
• 1:24:29
  [UNKNOWN]: That everyone loves because they're big, strong and can layer every throw, but they can't win a game when the game is on the line.
• 1:24:34
  [UNKNOWN]: So, if you can keep your team in the way, but all of those actual like passing metrics, right?
• 1:24:38
  [UNKNOWN]: And those are those are pretty standard metrics that you look at and say this is how people read if he's a good quarterback or not.
• 1:24:44
  [UNKNOWN]: There are still things that he is going to be in the bottom tier of the league.
• 1:24:47
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm not making excuses for that.
• 1:24:49
  [UNKNOWN]: He has to get better in those ways.
• 1:24:51
  [UNKNOWN]: But if you look at CJ strout and those same exact, because you always are going to compare CJ strout and Bryce Young, right?
• 1:24:56
  [UNKNOWN]: If you look at both of them and those same exact,
• 1:24:59
  [UNKNOWN]: those same exact departments.
• 1:25:01
  [UNKNOWN]: C.J.
• 1:25:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Stroud has gone the opposite direction where Bryce Young has gone up.
• 1:25:05
  [UNKNOWN]: His trajectory is going north where C.J.
• 1:25:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Stroud is literally dropping down.
• 1:25:09
  [UNKNOWN]: And this is with all of the talent that you talk about with the Texans having the great defense.
• 1:25:13
  [UNKNOWN]: He had his offensive line woes, but if we're going to talk about the offensive line further, people, we have to acknowledge that we play 12 different offensive linemen last season.
• 1:25:20
  [UNKNOWN]: And he's still to statistic.
• 1:25:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, come to his last season.
• 1:25:27
  [UNKNOWN]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
• 1:25:48
  [UNKNOWN]: whether it's fair on fair, Bryce is always going to be compared to his constituents.
• 1:25:55
  [UNKNOWN]: You mentioned CJ Strauss.
• 1:25:56
  [UNKNOWN]: CJ Strauss has definitely been on the decline and no one can deny that.
• 1:26:01
  [UNKNOWN]: But I also think it's true to say that CJ Strauss has hit higher highs in his career than Bryce
• 1:26:12
  [UNKNOWN]: where I'm at right here with this and it's not so much of a question.
• 1:26:16
  [UNKNOWN]: This is providing the alternate to what you're just saying.
• 1:26:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm a Carolina Panthers fan and I know you're on Twitter and I know you know the narrative around me on Twitter.
• 1:26:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not a Brice Young Hater.
• 1:26:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I am someone who wants to see it before I'm going to come up here and say that Brice Young is the future at the pointed bank position for the Carolina Panthers.
• 1:26:37
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that there are some things that he does well, and then I think there are some things that for him being the number one overall pick that you treated up to draft.
• 1:26:45
  [UNKNOWN]: There are some things that he does dramatically below par that we were told that he was going to be this incredible reader of the field and all these different things.
• 1:26:56
  [UNKNOWN]: And then I just see him miss layups.
• 1:26:58
  [UNKNOWN]: So I'm not going to plant my flag for Bryce.
• 1:27:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm saying, I want Bryce to make me plant that flag.
• 1:27:07
  [UNKNOWN]: And I feel like I don't feel like you've been on fair.
• 1:27:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I think you've mentioned some of the things that Bryce definitely does need to get better at.
• 1:27:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I just think that where there is a split in Carolina Panthers fans are the ones that believe that Bryce is the future.
• 1:27:25
  [UNKNOWN]: That's our guy, I'm a Panthers fan.
• 1:27:27
  [UNKNOWN]: We're gonna go to war for this dude no matter what.
• 1:27:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Then you have another subsection of Panther fans that are like,
• 1:27:34
  [UNKNOWN]: for the amount that we paid and where we're still at and the amount of excuses that tend to get made for him.
• 1:27:41
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm just not going to say that this guy is my guy until I see him have performances like it does against the Falcons against more teams than just the Falcons.
• 1:27:53
  [UNKNOWN]: In the Rams.
• 1:27:57
  [UNKNOWN]: And this is really just been and it's incremental steps forward.
• 1:28:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 1:28:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's small like we're look like looking at incremental steps forward.
• 1:28:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm looking I'm just worried about I'm not worried, but I'm with Cody on this is I can't walk into a game with my chest out.
• 1:28:26
  [UNKNOWN]: pricey on to take this developmental step.
• 1:28:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I want it just walk around for just a minute.
• 1:28:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I do want it.
• 1:28:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Man, do it.
• 1:28:32
  [UNKNOWN]: But you know what?
• 1:28:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not going to put fucking money on it.
• 1:28:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:28:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, okay.
• 1:28:37
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not back on the papers anyway.
• 1:28:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm back on the papers anyway.
• 1:28:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm back on the papers anyway.
• 1:28:41
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm back on the papers anyway.
• 1:28:42
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm back on the papers anyway.
• 1:28:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, right.
• 1:28:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Whether he's not here or he is here or not.
• 1:28:47
  [UNKNOWN]: But if he doesn't take a significant step forward, I guess Ricky is what we're asking or when I'm asking.
• 1:28:55
  [UNKNOWN]: or not even a significant is like is what does this season look like if Bryce Young doesn't go beyond a 200-yard pass or each week.
• 1:29:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Doesn't go and I'm we're not talking 300 yards.
• 1:29:09
  [UNKNOWN]: So here's a good in that.
• 1:29:10
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm going to help out because right now Ricky I need to understand I'm on your side here.
• 1:29:16
  [UNKNOWN]: He's never been more clear that every single year Bryson has taken a pretty massive step forward in his development.
• 1:29:23
  [UNKNOWN]: You may feel like it's incremental, but we look at year one, year one was horrendous.
• 1:29:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, probably one of the worst rookie campaigns of a quarterback taken in the first round that we can remember in a long time.
• 1:29:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 1:29:39
  [UNKNOWN]: The second year he came from being benched and then played himself into the conversation of, okay, maybe he is able to be a starting quarterback in the NFL.
• 1:29:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Then we go into here three, Embrace Young has got Carolina Reaper and he is the guy you wanted the quarterback position when it comes to the fourth quarter.
• 1:29:58
  [UNKNOWN]: You may think those are overblown stats, but in meet my opinion, I hear, I see the progress that, that, yes, there are, to Ricky's
• 1:30:09
  [UNKNOWN]: But to believe that he hasn't taken Master Steps forward, that is just not true.
• 1:30:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Like every single year it has been a massive, it has been noticeably different.
• 1:30:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Not incrementally, it has been noticeably statistically better.
• 1:30:22
  [UNKNOWN]: And every category you can ask about.
• 1:30:25
  [UNKNOWN]: And to assume that that's not, that's only incremental is just not looking at the actual factual data.
• 1:30:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and and C. K. I appreciate all that.
• 1:30:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I agree with that.
• 1:30:35
  [UNKNOWN]: And that's great context to add into it.
• 1:30:38
  [UNKNOWN]: I think the other part, Cody, and I wanted to ask you this because you said, you're like, we were told that he's such a smart field reader and that he does such a good job processing.
• 1:30:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Do you not think that he processes and reads a full field well, because I don't think he does or does it.
• 1:30:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, I think that that depends adequately.
• 1:30:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that it depends from game to game.
• 1:30:56
  [UNKNOWN]: I've seen him make a brilliant throw and make the right read.
• 1:31:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I've seen him throw into double in triple coverage.
• 1:31:03
  [UNKNOWN]: And to me, it's kind of the arm talent thing.
• 1:31:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that sometimes you know where he wants to go with the ball.
• 1:31:11
  [UNKNOWN]: but he just doesn't put the ball right on the receiver and they don't have to make an adjustment to the ball which we know it could have been a more jargon type to the catch play but no just being honest I don't feel like Bryce is some you know Matt to the staffer level jubries reader or Peyton man and like I don't feel like is
• 1:31:34
  [UNKNOWN]: I have not seen Ricky and this is not me and being a dick.
• 1:31:38
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not trying to be a dick, as I don't think he's dumb.
• 1:31:42
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think that at all.
• 1:31:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I think he's smart.
• 1:31:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, like, but I don't know his look is he doesn't have physical attributes that can overcome scenarios like Camgood, right?
• 1:31:53
  [UNKNOWN]: That could do that could get away with it things, right?
• 1:31:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Like we've seen players that are so physically gifted that they throw a late ball, but they can zip it in there.
• 1:32:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I just haven't seen him be able to, on a consistent level, overcome the, not deficiencies.
• 1:32:14
  [UNKNOWN]: That's not the challenge.
• 1:32:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Let me tell you.
• 1:32:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Let me tell you, yes, limitations to where it's like, oh, where I understand the game so much better.
• 1:32:27
  [UNKNOWN]: I need Bryce y'all into work that's what I need I need to work if he does not work We are stepping back.
• 1:32:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I want him to work.
• 1:32:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I just I just don't look at him and go all the sudden he's who is a stockton
• 1:32:43
  [UNKNOWN]: the point guard.
• 1:32:44
  [UNKNOWN]: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:32:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Like I just have it.
• 1:32:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm like, it's like, I mean, I hope he's going to be that.
• 1:32:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I want him.
• 1:32:50
  [UNKNOWN]: And I like that you're saying, I'm playing my flag.
• 1:32:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not playing my flag in despair.
• 1:32:57
  [UNKNOWN]: But I'm not necessarily saying, I think this, if the Panthers win eight games and they win eight games because their defense is really strong, other players did something.
• 1:33:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't I think this conversation continues to exist.
• 1:33:13
  [UNKNOWN]: I think one of the, you know, all kind of like in my stance on the Bryce Young thing here, because I, and I asked about the fulfilled reading and like his processing ability, because when I'm sitting down and I've had people smarter than me, sit down and talk me through the concept, talk me through plays, talk me through responsibilities for each individual concept, and, you know, design and where these white receivers supposed to be when they're supposed to be.
• 1:33:36
  [UNKNOWN]: When we talk about physical limitations, it's part of why Bryce Young's superpower
• 1:33:43
  [UNKNOWN]: as a thrower, right?
• 1:33:44
  [UNKNOWN]: He is an anticipatory thrower, which is very timing-based.
• 1:33:48
  [UNKNOWN]: He can throw the ball exactly where the ball is supposed to be, but if the receiver even takes a extra step off the release, or if he gets jammed up at low.
• 1:33:56
  [UNKNOWN]: If he, Bryce Young can make the right read,
• 1:33:59
  [UNKNOWN]: It turned into an interception and it's not always I'm not saying that it's never But it's not always because price young doesn't have arm talent that that ball is intercepted a lot of times It's because the concept the rest of those moving pieces within the structure of that concept did not execute the way they're supposed to execute and I am not giving him a pass on that But I think that it's really important
• 1:34:19
  [UNKNOWN]: not to sit here and say that just because well price can't miss make up for you know a late late read or whatever and try to whiz it into a small window.
• 1:34:27
  [UNKNOWN]: That's absolutely fair and he's not and you're not going to see him try to do that very often for what it's worth.
• 1:34:32
  [UNKNOWN]: If you can pull up like five or six instances of him trying to f-u throw a bullet into a space, I don't know.
• 1:34:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I would be pretty shocked.
• 1:34:40
  [UNKNOWN]: No, and I would be shocked because he doesn't need it.
• 1:34:42
  [UNKNOWN]: He can't do that.
• 1:34:43
  [UNKNOWN]: He's a self-aware quarterback and he knows what he can and can't do.
• 1:34:48
  [UNKNOWN]: The things that I was most concerned coming out of that rookie season and after the Benching of those two games is that I thought he was shell-shocked and I thought that his mental process had become foggy.
• 1:34:56
  [UNKNOWN]: I felt that he looked like he was not confident and that he was having a really hard time actually seeing the game and playing confidently to what he was able to do.
• 1:35:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Even if it was because he was afraid of having bad results, right?
• 1:35:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I think he had been coached really hard first of all to not make mistakes while also handing him a CVS receipt of things that he needs to account for.
• 1:35:16
  [UNKNOWN]: for because the rest of the offense was lackluster.
• 1:35:19
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that what I saw last season was a huge step forward in that department.
• 1:35:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I saw him take more chances.
• 1:35:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I saw him give better looks.
• 1:35:27
  [UNKNOWN]: I saw him identifying pre-snap at the line what defenses we're doing and he's calibrating.
• 1:35:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Man, this is a big part of being a master at a position is calibrating what NFL defenses what coordinators are going to throw at you, get familiar with the looks, get familiar with the disguises.
• 1:35:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that his Rolex is pretty well built at this point and I have seen him take advantage of that.
• 1:35:48
  [UNKNOWN]: in ways last season that I did not see him doing.
• 1:35:50
  [UNKNOWN]: And now we're talking about film where we're not talking about analytics and stats.
• 1:35:53
  [UNKNOWN]: So I can't give you numbers to back that up.
• 1:35:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm telling you for my I test when you said, you know, you got it, you're not.
• 1:35:59
  [UNKNOWN]: And it takes me a long time to go through and actually form a full opinion on something.
• 1:36:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I came away pretty encouraged by Bryce Young.
• 1:36:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I just want to say one more time.
• 1:36:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I just want to say one more
• 1:36:13
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think that you're worried that that perfectly understand what you're saying, that price, what he is really good at is being on time and anticipating the thought, and that is a really good trade.
• 1:36:27
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think that as he continues to grow, the Panthers have done a good job of building all fence around him that will help him with just those things and getting those wide receivers that he can trust in those moments.
• 1:36:40
  [UNKNOWN]: The reason why I get pushback is because if that's your super power as our franchise quarterback,
• 1:36:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't see a whole lot of difference between Bryce Young and what Teddy Bridgewater was supposed to be.
• 1:36:55
  [UNKNOWN]: And we didn't pay the enormous amount for Teddy Bridgewater that we did for Bryce.
• 1:37:01
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like you want, like this is kind of written to the lore of C3 at this point in time.
• 1:37:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Tony came to my house.
• 1:37:09
  [UNKNOWN]: He was going to the Rams game and he was sitting on my porch and I said to Tony, I'm like Tony.
• 1:37:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Do we have a chance and tell me or 2017 or 2017 that thing.
• 1:37:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he told me replied to me We have came to do so of course.
• 1:37:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like we have a chance.
• 1:37:27
  [UNKNOWN]: I didn't think we're gonna win, but I thought like we had it
• 1:37:31
  [UNKNOWN]: And I don't know if Bryce has gotten us to the point where it's like, man, we can have the worst team on the field, but because we have Bryce Dong, I feel like anything is possible.
• 1:37:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't feel like that yet, and I feel like this is the year where he has to earn that trust for people to believe in him in that kind of manner.
• 1:37:54
  [UNKNOWN]: He's just short back now, like I'll have that though.
• 1:37:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, no, I'm happy that you asked that we want to be kind of go through that real quick This doesn't have to take a long I didn't Josh Allen has that no, I mean, this is a good question Yeah, no, I feel yeah.
• 1:38:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I didn't Josh Allen has it
• 1:38:12
  [UNKNOWN]: I think the more Jackson has it.
• 1:38:15
  [UNKNOWN]: I think Patrick Mahomes has it.
• 1:38:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Joe Burrow.
• 1:38:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Matt Staffer.
• 1:38:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:38:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Of course, Matt to Stafford.
• 1:38:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I think Trevor Lawrence has that.
• 1:38:24
  [UNKNOWN]: And also, I think that's incredible.
• 1:38:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that's way the bad.
• 1:38:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I think you could have a lot of people that would debate Joe Burrow, even.
• 1:38:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I think a lot of people would debate Joe Burrow, to be honest.
• 1:38:33
  [UNKNOWN]: If you take to March 18th, you can offer that to Joe Burrow.
• 1:38:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Is Joe Burrow going to do it with DJ Chark, Adam Theland, and Jonathan Mingo?
• 1:38:41
  [UNKNOWN]: As a rookie, I don't know if I can get quibbling.
• 1:38:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know, but I was where they were having jibble.
• 1:38:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I want to burl then brush you off.
• 1:38:51
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't, I don't want to quibble about this because it's not about whether this or that I don't want it to be that.
• 1:38:58
  [UNKNOWN]: What I want to know is.
• 1:39:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Bryce Young has taken in your words to, and I'm paraphrasem is taking considerable steps forward.
• 1:39:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Sure.
• 1:39:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 1:39:09
  [UNKNOWN]: And so what is this year's considerable step forward?
• 1:39:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not talking about your, I'm not talking about.
• 1:39:20
  [UNKNOWN]: To me, I like I think this can get too washed out in wins.
• 1:39:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I think there's a way that Panthers can win nine games and Bryce young could be just poor okay.
• 1:39:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm sure so I don't think that, but like what is it?
• 1:39:34
  [UNKNOWN]: To me, I've always said this and it's so weird because I'm the biggest Cam Newton fan in the world.
• 1:39:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, there's this would be hard to find somebody who was gay here for Cam Newton and then me.
• 1:39:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I sharpen my Twitter sword for him.
• 1:39:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I would go to war.
• 1:39:51
  [UNKNOWN]: What?
• 1:39:51
  [UNKNOWN]: That would be sharpened a couple swords to keep Newton doing clearly.
• 1:39:54
  [UNKNOWN]: No, it's like, I mean, it's a crossing swords and everything.
• 1:39:59
  [UNKNOWN]: No, but the thing is is that what I've said that Cam Newton was the most con for so many years on this podcast.
• 1:40:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I said Cam Newton's the most controversial player.
• 1:40:11
  [UNKNOWN]: And Panther history like is like he's you love him you hate him.
• 1:40:15
  [UNKNOWN]: He's a I used to refer to him as the Barack Obama I'm a big Barack Obama fan by the way, too, but put Donald Trump in this is like is that like there's this either or camp
• 1:40:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I didn't think we would have a more controversial player in the history of the world and it was like this guy who is the most clean cut smartest this this is like all of a sudden bright shines like hold my beer I'll be the most controversial like what is it I'm not going to say we'll end that discussion will be there till it's not and maybe that surrounds the starting quarterback position period.
• 1:40:53
  [UNKNOWN]: But what is it that would make this conversation less about Bryce Young this season and to me I to me is like I'm just going to give you like my base is 225 passing yards.
• 1:41:10
  [UNKNOWN]: No, no, I'm not going to say no, but not really no sub 200 yard passing games and a positive touchdown to interception ratio.
• 1:41:21
  [UNKNOWN]: So like if if we come out if Bryson week one to 28 to touchdowns one interception week two to 48 to touchdowns one interception to what like, but there's been a lot of 161.
• 1:41:39
  [UNKNOWN]: one seven like that's the thing what will make your when you say you plant your flag to you protect it there like what is that what do you envision that being
• 1:41:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and look, I want to make sure that we're all clear too that like I think these are all good points and valid points on both sides of the argument like I don't think that this discussion isn't a black and white easy discussion there is a lot of nuance and context behind it there are personal opinions there are statistics are facts and there are
• 1:42:10
  [UNKNOWN]: the way you decide for game film because that's the other part of this man none of us are in the room none of us know what the calls are none of us know what the the the the read is what what the route distribution for certain concepts and players and things like that we don't know that but for Bryson for me to get a better year right and a year ago making a better year that will make you feel comfortable to say this guy should be our quarterback.
• 1:42:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I think you're one year more.
• 1:42:37
  [UNKNOWN]: I think you all are correct about the lows can't be as low.
• 1:42:41
  [UNKNOWN]: And that is something that I have appointed to as well.
• 1:42:44
  [UNKNOWN]: There have to be answers, not just from Bryce, but from the offensive staff for things that are difficult.
• 1:42:49
  [UNKNOWN]: That is one of the things.
• 1:42:50
  [UNKNOWN]: things that I saw last season that was still extremely frustrating is that when the offense and price young individually got punched in the mouth at times, they didn't have a response.
• 1:42:59
  [UNKNOWN]: They did not have a good counter punch.
• 1:43:01
  [UNKNOWN]: They kind of just kept getting hit in the face and they just ended up taking it until they were out cold and the game was out of reach, right?
• 1:43:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to see a better answer to dilemmas.
• 1:43:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Dilemma's are going to happen in the NFL for every quarterback.
• 1:43:14
  [UNKNOWN]: They are going to happen.
• 1:43:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Bad games happen.
• 1:43:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Understand the like the top five six quarterbacks probably average what 235 yards per game Last season if you take their totals and you break it down to 17 games is probably around 235 to 250 yards per game That was it
• 1:43:35
  [UNKNOWN]: If Bryce young can average 215, 220 yards a game, you're going to talk about him being in the top 12, total yards in the air thrown for the lead.
• 1:43:44
  [UNKNOWN]: If he can tack on 300 yards rushing two or three touchdowns, but the main thing, completion percentage.
• 1:43:50
  [UNKNOWN]: attacking downfield, which also goes into the offensive structure.
• 1:43:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think it's simply on Bryce Young to do that more.
• 1:43:56
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that the rest of the offense has to perform, but Bryce needs to be comfortable and confident in giving his guys one-all-one opportunities and taking those throws.
• 1:44:05
  [UNKNOWN]: It's got to be part of creating part of that, right?
• 1:44:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Like he can't just be waiting for everyone else to do their part.
• 1:44:12
  [UNKNOWN]: He needs to facilitate some of that confidence and be the driving factor for taking those chances.
• 1:44:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that he can do that.
• 1:44:19
  [UNKNOWN]: I believe that I saw enough from him last season that I do 100% anticipate that being a new element that we see on a more consistent basis.
• 1:44:28
  [UNKNOWN]: But the lows cannot be as low.
• 1:44:30
  [UNKNOWN]: They just can't.
• 1:44:31
  [UNKNOWN]: And the turnovers cannot happen in critical moments.
• 1:44:34
  [UNKNOWN]: They have to be a, hey, look, he's playing within the structure of the offensive.
• 1:44:38
  [UNKNOWN]: He is trying to make something happen when there are no other options.
• 1:44:41
  [UNKNOWN]: And that's where he's making these turnovers.
• 1:44:43
  [UNKNOWN]: They cannot be laws a fair incorrect throws, badball placement.
• 1:44:47
  [UNKNOWN]: It's going to happen every now and then, but you just don't want to see three games in a row of Bryce Young putting you behind the eight ball with an early turnover.
• 1:44:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Now, that might also be a little unfair for me just to throw that out there blankedly because I think that some of the things that I'm fair and I think some of those early things that have happened though aren't strictly on Bryce young so it makes it seem like I'm saying that all of those instances in the past were because Bryce failed I think there were other elements.
• 1:45:11
  [UNKNOWN]: But to y'all's point though, a great quarterback, and I don't think it's fair first of all, and this is why I asked about how many facts are going to back.
• 1:45:17
  [UNKNOWN]: How many quarterbacks are like that upper echelon?
• 1:45:20
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not fair to compare any quarterback to Cam Newton necessarily.
• 1:45:24
  [UNKNOWN]: It's a, I need him to get to that level.
• 1:45:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Cam Newton's a 101.
• 1:45:27
  [UNKNOWN]: It's that was that for homes.
• 1:45:28
  [UNKNOWN]: If we're talking about that, right?
• 1:45:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, these are all guys that are going to be wearing gold jackets.
• 1:45:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they're going to be wearing gold jackets.
• 1:45:34
  [UNKNOWN]: But what we do need, Brasio cannot be this conversation anymore.
• 1:45:38
  [UNKNOWN]: I think we can all agree on that.
• 1:45:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to be Alex Smith.
• 1:45:42
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to see consistency, I want to see aggressiveness.
• 1:45:45
  [UNKNOWN]: And I want to see, raise the yards per attempt a little bit.
• 1:45:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's open the offense up a bit.
• 1:45:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I know we've milked your time, just your thoughts on the bears are coming to Carolina.
• 1:45:57
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't want to get involved in the storylines have been Johnson even in all of this stuff, but what do you think the Panthers are facing in week one?
• 1:46:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I think you face a really smart offensive coach.
• 1:46:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I think you face a really talented quarterback.
• 1:46:15
  [UNKNOWN]: I think you also face a defenses extremely vulnerable.
• 1:46:19
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that you can attack and exploit the secondary.
• 1:46:21
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that their past rushes underwhelming.
• 1:46:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that their run defense is going to be relatively susceptible to success from opponents.
• 1:46:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I do think the Devon Bush is a really good addition for them.
• 1:46:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that that will help their second level a lot.
• 1:46:34
  [UNKNOWN]: He had a good season last year in Cleveland.
• 1:46:36
  [UNKNOWN]: It'll be interesting to see what he does in Chicago now.
• 1:46:40
  [UNKNOWN]: But I do think that this is an attackable defense.
• 1:46:42
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that their offense is really going to rely on is Roma Dune's a healthy, is Luther burden healthy, coast in lovelin or healthy, not healthy.
• 1:46:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm sure he's not happy.
• 1:46:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Coast in lovelin is the thing that I think is going to really turn that offense for them.
• 1:46:56
  [UNKNOWN]: And that runs game.
• 1:46:58
  [UNKNOWN]: D. Andre Smith or D. Andre Swift, Kyle Monange, I want to see what those guys were able to do behind that offensive line.
• 1:47:04
  [UNKNOWN]: But hey, look, Caleb Williams, I think there was something they went out today on line on Twitter about his struggles against disguised defenses, disguised looks.
• 1:47:14
  [UNKNOWN]: This is what we talk about with processing and stuff.
• 1:47:15
  [UNKNOWN]: When they run a heavy play actually, his back is turned to that defense and they rotate.
• 1:47:19
  [UNKNOWN]: And that back end is completely different.
• 1:47:20
  [UNKNOWN]: That cover is just completely different than what he identified pre-snap.
• 1:47:23
  [UNKNOWN]: That's something that everyone does at a really high clip that we have a lot of success on.
• 1:47:26
  [UNKNOWN]: It's something that Caleb Williams struggles a lot.
• 1:47:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Caleb Williams is on the Madden cover.
• 1:47:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Caleb Williams is being talked about his MVP.
• 1:47:31
  [UNKNOWN]: He got a mustache now.
• 1:47:32
  [UNKNOWN]: He looks like he's in shape.
• 1:47:34
  [UNKNOWN]: He's not painting his nails.
• 1:47:35
  [UNKNOWN]: There is a lot of pressure, social pressure, internal pressure, external pressure.
• 1:47:40
  [UNKNOWN]: For him to come out and do something tremendous.
• 1:47:42
  [UNKNOWN]: They are favorites.
• 1:47:43
  [UNKNOWN]: There's a heavy amount of bets that are going towards the Chicago Bears Ways.
• 1:47:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Vegas doesn't lose all that often.
• 1:47:48
  [UNKNOWN]: When there is a lot of pressure, there's a lot of pressure going away.
• 1:47:51
  [UNKNOWN]: No, two and a half favorites, but they're getting like 90% of the money right now.
• 1:47:56
  [UNKNOWN]: And usually when that kind of flow is happy, man, the wise guys will end up betting that later in the game or later in the week.
• 1:48:01
  [UNKNOWN]: But I think they honestly, this is a game that they can win.
• 1:48:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it will be a difficult game.
• 1:48:07
  [UNKNOWN]: But I think that the early portion of this Panthers schedule is really set up for them to get a quick start where they have historically had very slow starts.
• 1:48:15
  [UNKNOWN]: But they get the Falcons a week too.
• 1:48:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Hopefully, to a talk about lowest still,
• 1:48:21
  [UNKNOWN]: still starting quarterback, then you get the Detroit Lions with out there two starting safeties and in a Sunday night game.
• 1:48:28
  [UNKNOWN]: So this is an opportunity.
• 1:48:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's be three and one going into Monday night, right?
• 1:48:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Two and two bare minimum.
• 1:48:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Two and two bare minimum, I think.
• 1:48:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, where's your bare minimum?
• 1:48:38
  [UNKNOWN]: We're sponsored by my bookie, my bookie.ag.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Use the promo code C3P.
• 1:48:45
  [UNKNOWN]: They right now on my bookie, the line is three, Ricky.
• 1:48:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Plus 134 if you pick the Panthers to win outright over under 47, if you were going to make a pick on my bookie using the promo code C3P, would you pick the Bears at minus three, the Panthers at plus three,
• 1:49:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Would you go for out right when on one of those or would you go over under at 47?
• 1:49:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, man.
• 1:49:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, look, I'm not going to take the bears given three because I don't think that the bears win this game.
• 1:49:20
  [UNKNOWN]: So if I think that.
• 1:49:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, so you want to bless money.
• 1:49:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I would take the Carolina Panthers plus the money line.
• 1:49:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not.
• 1:49:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Are you saying the points are pretty as a win in this?
• 1:49:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I honestly do.
• 1:49:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, I think that the Panthers win this football game on Sunday.
• 1:49:32
  [UNKNOWN]: I genuinely think they do.
• 1:49:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that it's a relatively low scoring game.
• 1:49:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe like a 24 to 20.
• 1:49:38
  [UNKNOWN]: So maybe take the under there as well.
• 1:49:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I've maybe do a little parlay action, right?
• 1:49:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's go make some money together, guys.
• 1:49:46
  [UNKNOWN]: And before I get out of here, I do we just talked about it.
• 1:49:49
  [UNKNOWN]: This is a home game.
• 1:49:51
  [UNKNOWN]: If I can't offer one piece of advice, come and win two tickets to the Panthers game on Panthers on Tap on Friday night on our show.
• 1:49:57
  [UNKNOWN]: We're giving way to tickets to the game.
• 1:49:59
  [UNKNOWN]: So somebody come here to steal the game.
• 1:50:01
  [UNKNOWN]: And do this.
• 1:50:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Ricky, you've been so generous with your time.
• 1:50:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm so glad we got to have you on.
• 1:50:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I know you're busy.
• 1:50:08
  [UNKNOWN]: This is your opportunity.
• 1:50:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
• 1:50:11
  [UNKNOWN]: This is a thank you from us for hanging out with us, but we are rising tide lifts all boats.
• 1:50:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Tell Panther fans, when you're live where they can check your videos out,
• 1:50:23
  [UNKNOWN]: and how they can get those tickets.
• 1:50:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I will say this as someone who has given away tickets for the Panthers in Contest, just a piece of advice, the Panthers may email you and be like, you can't do contest.
• 1:50:38
  [UNKNOWN]: So what you do, the way to subterfuge it is, we with this contest gets you this and these tickets are included.
• 1:50:50
  [UNKNOWN]: There you go.
• 1:50:50
  [UNKNOWN]: So that's smart.
• 1:50:51
  [UNKNOWN]: So don't win tickets coming coming win a couple of stickers and then when I need you on Sunday to give you your stickers, I might have an envelope with other stickers in them.
• 1:51:00
  [UNKNOWN]: How about that?
• 1:51:01
  [UNKNOWN]: I was a first year.
• 1:51:02
  [UNKNOWN]: We were the second year doing this podcast and like I'm talking about like eight people watching us and we did this thing submit a fan like tell us why you're a fan and we're going to give you these tickets and the Panthers email me there like back of the ticket says it's property.
• 1:51:20
  [UNKNOWN]: So I'm going to say this is that what you do is you say we're giving away a package of something and then I'm including this, they're not just a thing.
• 1:51:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm just going to say, I mean, I don't know how they are this day, but I was like, man, we got 78 followers on the fucking YouTube and I'm getting a message from their lawyer.
• 1:51:43
  [UNKNOWN]: We're struggling to get fans in the building and you would find ways to stop that from happening.
• 1:51:48
  [UNKNOWN]: That's a little backwards.
• 1:51:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, so tell them again the channel, the times, and how they can win some stickers, where that might be an opportunity for them to win attend a game.
• 1:51:59
  [UNKNOWN]: And maybe you're given away.
• 1:52:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe you should give away bearish tickets.
• 1:52:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, there you go.
• 1:52:05
  [UNKNOWN]: That's what I'm doing.
• 1:52:06
  [UNKNOWN]: They're just Chicago Bears tickets.
• 1:52:07
  [UNKNOWN]: If the Bears don't want me to do it, they're going to have to find me, right?
• 1:52:11
  [UNKNOWN]: First of all, thank you guys for having me.
• 1:52:12
  [UNKNOWN]: And you're right, man, everyone's busy, though.
• 1:52:14
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not just me.
• 1:52:15
  [UNKNOWN]: We all have lives.
• 1:52:15
  [UNKNOWN]: We all have everything outside of these content creation gig that we get involved in.
• 1:52:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm appreciative that you guys enjoyed in conversating with me and enough to have me come in here and give my perspectives to my opinions.
• 1:52:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I am always open to different perspectives and having those conversations.
• 1:52:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that's part of what makes being a fan fun.
• 1:52:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, so thank you guys for having me on.
• 1:52:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Thank you guys for allowing that conversation to happen.
• 1:52:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Panthers on tap is typically going to be live every Wednesday night at 9 p.m.
• 1:52:40
  [UNKNOWN]: This week, the NFL, you know, they didn't consider us when they made their plans.
• 1:52:45
  [UNKNOWN]: And they have the season kicking off on Wednesday night.
• 1:52:48
  [UNKNOWN]: So we pivoted over to Friday night, which is going to be a lot of fun.
• 1:52:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Anyways, you got no work in the morning on Saturday.
• 1:52:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe you have a couple extra liveations with us.
• 1:52:55
  [UNKNOWN]: We're going to be giving away some stickers and some bears tickets.
• 1:52:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Apparently are in a package.
• 1:53:00
  [UNKNOWN]: So come and join that.
• 1:53:01
  [UNKNOWN]: All you got to do is subscribe to the YouTube channel.
• 1:53:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Come in there.
• 1:53:04
  [UNKNOWN]: $5 super chat will give you an extra entry into the drawing.
• 1:53:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Any members of the tap room already get an automatic entry to the drawing.
• 1:53:11
  [UNKNOWN]: that is our membership on the YouTube channel.
• 1:53:14
  [UNKNOWN]: And then you can find me, see my name, uh, lit up right there behind my head at Ricky Boe Body.
• 1:53:19
  [UNKNOWN]: You find me on Twitter.
• 1:53:20
  [UNKNOWN]: That's where I do most of my stupidity.
• 1:53:22
  [UNKNOWN]: So, um, C3, CK, Cody, Tony, appreciate you guys, man.
• 1:53:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, and hope to be back another point this season.
• 1:53:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
• 1:53:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm sure you tell your check out Panthers on Tap.
• 1:53:33
  [UNKNOWN]: To be live Friday, given away some stickers with the opportunity.
• 1:53:38
  [UNKNOWN]: If you also going to a football game, and I hope I'm not over exaggerating, but it did happen to me.
• 1:53:46
  [UNKNOWN]: So I've just put it out there.
• 1:53:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Thank you so much for your time.
• 1:53:50
  [UNKNOWN]: You guys Cody, let's go ahead and move into.
• 1:53:55
  [UNKNOWN]: We've got a power through.
• 1:53:56
  [UNKNOWN]: We've got calls to do.
• 1:53:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry.
• 1:54:00
  [UNKNOWN]: You know what is
• 1:54:09
  [UNKNOWN]: But I can't, I really believe this until it's not it will be.
• 1:54:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and again, the Bryce's own chat is what people say we could do it, that we do it too much, but that's what everybody wants to hear.
• 1:54:24
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the only thing that you're looking for, you're going to exist, and that's what I'm saying.
• 1:54:29
  [UNKNOWN]: We give them what they want, and this team is, you know, the narrative is around Bryce, say which one, but Bryce is open the door with canalases safe.
• 1:54:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Now, but I even kind of agree with him.
• 1:54:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think that right now this Panthers team is one of the, one of the other that they're both, you know, mutually exclusive.
• 1:54:57
  [UNKNOWN]: I think you could see Canales here moving on to a different corner basket.
• 1:55:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't.
• 1:55:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't think that you would really see this in the area of just Bryce and no Canales.
• 1:55:09
  [UNKNOWN]: But I'll,
• 1:55:10
  [UNKNOWN]: How about what you want some balls real quick?
• 1:55:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, just let's do that.
• 1:55:13
  [UNKNOWN]: The numbers two, five, two, two, two, eight, 50, 98.
• 1:55:16
  [UNKNOWN]: That's two, five, two, two, eight, 50, 98.
• 1:55:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's get in your cat cause.
• 1:55:23
  [UNKNOWN]: So what do you thought it's on cat calling?
• 1:55:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's pretty sh**t. You shouldn't do that to somebody.
• 1:55:26
  [UNKNOWN]: And how did that make you feel?
• 1:55:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Very uncomfortable.
• 1:55:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, how do you think cat calling makes the person feel?
• 1:55:29
  [UNKNOWN]: It feels good, like, three and a four.
• 1:55:30
  [UNKNOWN]: And a two, five, four, five, four, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five,
• 1:55:50
  [UNKNOWN]: What's going on in C3 is introducing from Charlotte Man.
• 1:55:53
  [UNKNOWN]: How's it going?
• 1:55:53
  [UNKNOWN]: How's it going?
• 1:55:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to do it today.
• 1:55:56
  [UNKNOWN]: We made a man, week one is here, five days away, super pumped, just wanted to call in, give my kind of overall preview of the season.
• 1:56:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Get your all thoughts.
• 1:56:07
  [UNKNOWN]: What are you all feeling about this season?
• 1:56:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Are you optimistic coming in?
• 1:56:10
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, I know Cody's made some comments about how he thinks the defense is going to be really good this year.
• 1:56:21
  [UNKNOWN]: They need to be answered about the team, you know, the offense too.
• 1:56:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Week one.
• 1:56:30
  [UNKNOWN]: We got the Chicago Bears.
• 1:56:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Funny enough, the team, a lot like us last year, won a lot of close games, especially late in the fourth quarter.
• 1:56:40
  [UNKNOWN]: They have a youngest son and quarterback.
• 1:56:42
  [UNKNOWN]: They have a great young head coach.
• 1:56:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Ben Johnson is once upon a time, you know, the guy David Pepper was sought after to be the next coach of the Panthers, obviously didn't end up that way.
• 1:56:53
  [UNKNOWN]: What do we feel about this matchup?
• 1:56:57
  [UNKNOWN]: If the Panthers have a chance, in my opinion, they certainly do, man.
• 1:57:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, listen, I mean, you look at the various defense on paper, doesn't look good at all.
• 1:57:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, you know, realistically, I've been saying this,
• 1:57:12
  [UNKNOWN]: The schedule maker set Bryce Young up to have a better start this year.
• 1:57:19
  [UNKNOWN]: We got the Bears defense and the Falcons with pretty much no pass rush and the Browns.
• 1:57:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not even concerned about the defense, the offense needs to start fast in this game.
• 1:57:30
  [UNKNOWN]: They need to put up points, hopefully Brad is sick, allows Bryce Young to be Bryce Young, push the ball down the field, open up the playbook, get your playmakers involved.
• 1:57:43
  [UNKNOWN]: all of those things, man.
• 1:57:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm excited to see all the new additions.
• 1:57:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm excited to see this new form defense.
• 1:57:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm excited to see the offense.
• 1:57:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Can we be more consistent?
• 1:57:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Can Bryce Young spread the ball around?
• 1:57:54
  [UNKNOWN]: How's Jonathan Brooks going to look?
• 1:57:56
  [UNKNOWN]: The offensive line.
• 1:58:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Again, there's a lot of
• 1:58:05
  [UNKNOWN]: There's been some concern about the offensive line and forward the outer starting tacos.
• 1:58:09
  [UNKNOWN]: But I'm telling you, man, we're not facing top two past rushing units early on in the season.
• 1:58:17
  [UNKNOWN]: So I think they're going to be able to gel nice until those other guys get back.
• 1:58:23
  [UNKNOWN]: In the overall season prediction, man, I'm just going to make it right now.
• 1:58:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to make my prediction last year.
• 1:58:27
  [UNKNOWN]: I had it going eight and nine.
• 1:58:31
  [UNKNOWN]: But it's finishing second in the division this year.
• 1:58:34
  [UNKNOWN]: I think we are going to finish ten and seven.
• 1:58:37
  [UNKNOWN]: I think the pants is going to finish ten and seven.
• 1:58:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I think we're going to line in seven going into the last week of the year.
• 1:58:42
  [UNKNOWN]: They're going to have to beat it land at home.
• 1:58:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Ten and seven.
• 1:58:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, those are ten to the call.
• 1:58:49
  [UNKNOWN]: That was a cut off.
• 1:58:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, I do it to the defense is going to be really good, and I do.
• 1:58:56
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that our defense is going to be the focal point of this football team, and I think when you have an offense coming into town, like K the Williams and the Bears, what a better way to show all the dividends that our defensive free agent picks are going to pay off for
• 1:59:20
  [UNKNOWN]: go get after them.
• 1:59:22
  [UNKNOWN]: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:59:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, let's be aggressive.
• 1:59:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's let our DBs play fast.
• 1:59:27
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think 10 and 7 is a very admirable record.
• 1:59:33
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, next call.
• 1:59:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Thank you,
• 1:59:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Hey guys, Johnny, you can call it in with it.
• 1:59:40
  [UNKNOWN]: What is indeed my last update of the Ultra in the football league season, unless it and there's another one.
• 1:59:46
  [UNKNOWN]: But anyway, the American Football League Europe, A-S-L-E, where our Panthers brush law play.
• 1:59:54
  [UNKNOWN]: wrapped up their championship game and our Panthers Rocks Law were in the championship game folks against the VN of Vikings and they unfortunately lost 68 to five.
• 2:00:07
  [UNKNOWN]: So that is your alternative football league update from Europe of our Panthers Rocks Law.
• 2:00:12
  [UNKNOWN]: They were great during the regular season.
• 2:00:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Killed it in the one player we had and then
• 2:00:18
  [UNKNOWN]: just got killed in the championship game.
• 2:00:20
  [UNKNOWN]: But I didn't the other update I had as I just want to do a little bit of dad bragging here.
• 2:00:25
  [UNKNOWN]: But my son, Big Jack 83 himself, made the advance team for the 14-year hockey team here in Hillsborough, the Hillsborough Hogg.
• 2:00:36
  [UNKNOWN]: He is the only southerner on this team.
• 2:00:38
  [UNKNOWN]: So let me tell you, I'm like, oh, I got that.
• 2:00:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's go, Jack.
• 2:00:42
  [UNKNOWN]: His parents are both born in the south and he is born in the south.
• 2:00:47
  [UNKNOWN]: He is one of the few kids on the scene born in the south, but the only kid who's both parents are born in the south.
• 2:00:54
  [UNKNOWN]: And we got a southerner playing hockey all in a quite proud.
• 2:00:56
  [UNKNOWN]: And then other than that, I'm going to take these over on Haynes King.
• 2:01:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Come on up in the middle.
• 2:01:01
  [UNKNOWN]: He's going to score three touchdowns.
• 2:01:06
  [UNKNOWN]: uh... this game and uh... it's gonna be fantastic teens all the way but bright as my hearted back parallel to anyway a love you guys this is gonna be the year i say that every year but i mean it this year y'all this is the year but i love you that's gonna be it out congrats and let's go next go love you john b what's up three three nation this is your boy harvey and summer meal
• 2:01:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, Tony's out of there.
• 2:01:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody Lack and CK have once again nursed this fan base through another off season.
• 2:01:44
  [UNKNOWN]: And we have finally made it.
• 2:01:46
  [UNKNOWN]: We are at open week, everybody.
• 2:01:48
  [UNKNOWN]: We're not excited.
• 2:01:49
  [UNKNOWN]: You're dating sure, automate.
• 2:01:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Got two things that I've been thinking a lot about just when we get your thoughts on them.
• 2:01:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I really feel like this upcoming season
• 2:02:03
  [UNKNOWN]: These two items at least at this moment, and one of them is the offensive line, I'm pretty concerned about where we're standing, especially considering that
• 2:02:17
  [UNKNOWN]: three out of the five were not playing for us last year.
• 2:02:23
  [UNKNOWN]: So they just haven't matched well today and I'm concerned about that for obvious reasons.
• 2:02:30
  [UNKNOWN]: And the second mean the past rush.
• 2:02:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I know with Jalen Phillips coming in, Phil Rue, good about him, especially if he stays healthy.
• 2:02:42
  [UNKNOWN]: But what concerns me is
• 2:02:47
  [UNKNOWN]: If he stays healthy, the other team is scheming to keep him out or try to, and I feel like we got to have somebody else emerge, and I really think a lot of our defenses success this year is going to depend on having not only him, but another guy up a, where that be principally or, I don't know, just have somebody else.
• 2:03:12
  [UNKNOWN]: But I like to get your thoughts on that again.
• 2:03:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Thanks a lot, guys, for everything you do this all season.
• 2:03:18
  [UNKNOWN]: And just all your hard work, we really appreciate it.
• 2:03:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Give me that two stats.
• 2:03:24
  [UNKNOWN]: One was sack, I believe.
• 2:03:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Right?
• 2:03:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, sat up and the other was I was talking about the offensive line, so the offensive line, that's my biggest concern, he was saying that you have two guys that haven't played on this team last year, so you know three guys that have that cohesion.
• 2:03:47
  [UNKNOWN]: or two guys have the collision and three don't.
• 2:03:50
  [UNKNOWN]: So that's, yeah, that's concerning, man.
• 2:03:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Like this is something that, uh, I think we're all nervous about and then you can't get injured.
• 2:04:01
  [UNKNOWN]: You really can't because the depth behind these guys really is paper thing.
• 2:04:08
  [UNKNOWN]: So, um, I, I'm very, very, very pumped up about the defense.
• 2:04:13
  [UNKNOWN]: I need this offense to really show me something.
• 2:04:17
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm not trying to say I'm not excited.
• 2:04:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I'm excited for Panthers football to come back.
• 2:04:23
  [UNKNOWN]: But I'm just going to be real outside of the really good connection between Bryce and T-Mac.
• 2:04:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know what we have.
• 2:04:30
  [UNKNOWN]: There is no more recode doubtal.
• 2:04:32
  [UNKNOWN]: You have new offensive line formation.
• 2:04:34
  [UNKNOWN]: You have a new tie-in and Darren Waller that you're going to try to fit into the passing attack.
• 2:04:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Somehow.
• 2:04:41
  [UNKNOWN]: And you still have a lot of unknowns with Xavier look at.
• 2:04:44
  [UNKNOWN]: You have Jaylan Kohler coming back.
• 2:04:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Overall, um, you know, um, hesitant to really push all my chips in all this offense until I can see them at least, competent, uh, against the bearish.
• 2:05:00
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 2:05:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, last year, the Carolina Panthers, so we're going to kind of,
• 2:05:04
  [UNKNOWN]: blend in some of our later topics we're doing overunders for from offensive passing touchdowns to offensive passing yards to will Jalen Phillips have nine and a half sex.
• 2:05:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's do this.
• 2:05:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's do these sack numbers since he's asking about it over under.
• 2:05:21
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think that the slide is probably bad who knows if it's made.
• 2:05:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I made it quick.
• 2:05:28
  [UNKNOWN]: where do you don't go back one because that one's certainly not right, but last year the Carolina Panthers recorded 41 and a half sex, which I think was a significant upgrade from the year before in the 30s.
• 2:05:44
  [UNKNOWN]: The Carolina Panthers over under 41 and a half sex for the season over over.
• 2:05:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's okay.
• 2:05:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, if I'm not over you're having a problem saying do you paid jail and fill up the most expensive contract in pan to his history if we don't break that number, I'm going to be a very pissed off man.
• 2:06:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, massively.
• 2:06:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Let me say I man then 2024.
• 2:06:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Carolina Panthers, I know they were at the bottom in 2024, 41 and a half sex.
• 2:06:24
  [UNKNOWN]: It's got to be more than that this year.
• 2:06:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, let me say, good good.
• 2:06:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, man, a sex did the Panthers have in 2024.
• 2:06:39
  [UNKNOWN]: 32, they only had 32.
• 2:06:47
  [UNKNOWN]: So I realized the trick with AI, you ask it for the stats first, then you go into the AI mode and ask it to make you an infographic.
• 2:06:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, well, I thought I don't know it, but anyway, I don't hopefully the stats aren't up here.
• 2:07:06
  [UNKNOWN]: They had 41 and a half last year, 32 the year before, I almost say you could say that over under is like, if we were going to adjust it at 40 and a half.
• 2:07:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Man, uh, I guess over has to be how about this, uh, more difficult question for you guys and please in the chat, let us know over and or under for these numbers 41 and a half team sacks.
• 2:07:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Jalen Phillips.
• 2:07:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, you have nine and a half, so he's over under, it's like nine or ten, over under Jalen Phillips, ten sacks season, see, get your thoughts.
• 2:08:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't want to be just a fan in this.
• 2:08:02
  [UNKNOWN]: So I don't say under.
• 2:08:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not going to say under smart, smart.
• 2:08:06
  [UNKNOWN]: It's just me off so bad.
• 2:08:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I know.
• 2:08:09
  [UNKNOWN]: He's going to say five and a half bullshit.
• 2:08:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm following him over.
• 2:08:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Kiss my over.
• 2:08:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, I'm saying over.
• 2:08:16
  [UNKNOWN]: I read a story on, I mean, who knows who wrote it was sports illustrated.
• 2:08:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Guy said, uh, hot take.
• 2:08:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, not hot, but it was like bold take.
• 2:08:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Two sacks for Jalen Phillips in the first game.
• 2:08:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's go, let's go, I think a hot dog would be if he had four sex up, I know he has two, well he has one sack two balls and going on, let's go the next call there.
• 2:08:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's see, next up.
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  [UNKNOWN]: He was on pace for 10.
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  [UNKNOWN]: He got hurt.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, now I'm going to say this is he's 10.
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  [UNKNOWN]: He's a 10 sack guy this year.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Let's say gets 11 and a half.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Bryce Young, I'm got, like I said, Bryce Young got four games with me.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Man, we need to be smackin' this ass every goddamn play, strikein' ass motherfucker, you know what I'm sayin'?
• 2:10:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know, not more lose to a quarterback who paints the fucking fingernails, unassurcable to see dogs, you know, but hopefully we can get this W, I think we're gonna be gonna, we should have like at least a top five, top 10 defense, you know, but I'm very excited, very excited for this upcoming season.
• 2:10:41
  [UNKNOWN]: If anybody's gonna be in Atlanta, we too, you know what I'm sayin'?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Cody got down got my number.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm just excited, man.
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  [UNKNOWN]: You know, I'm saying, keep fucking pounded.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And I hope we have a great fucking season, you know.
• 2:11:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Bryce, I'm not, you know, I just want to fucking win.
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  [UNKNOWN]: You know, with Bryce or without Bryce.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I just want to fucking win this division again and go to the fucking playoffs and get me a playoff win.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So we're going to do this in
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  [UNKNOWN]: We're going to do it right now, starting with how about this?
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  [UNKNOWN]: I just want to get your thoughts.
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  [UNKNOWN]: If you're just picking winner or loser on winter tomorrow night, Seattle or New England, CK, who you got?
• 2:13:16
  [UNKNOWN]: See, Seattle, Seattle, I think so too.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Would you think that they unveil their banner or not?
• 2:13:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I think like I don't even know why this is a question like I make I feel like I'm like weirded out is like how is this a bet number one?
• 2:13:32
  [UNKNOWN]: No, yeah, what do they know?
• 2:13:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Right exactly exactly so I picked Seattle's and this is not part of our picks for the year Cody, who you got for Seattle Patriots?
• 2:13:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm going to Seattle, man.
• 2:13:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they're I think they're going to continue to put to put respect on Sam Donald's name.
• 2:13:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I think everybody goes next to the game San Francisco, Los Angeles, I know that the ramps are the darling right now, the super team, the dream and the game, right?
• 2:14:05
  [UNKNOWN]: But yeah, it is, but I still think that the Seahawks are on the team to beat.
• 2:14:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I can see a world where the ramps are fucking like, oh, we don't want to fuck around.
• 2:14:15
  [UNKNOWN]: But I don't want to diss on the sea hooks like so I don't think I'm not ready to just give the fucking Super Bowl to the Rams just yet.
• 2:14:25
  [UNKNOWN]: So I like that Seattle pick around the round the horn should we say, I'm picking the Rams.
• 2:14:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I placed a wager on it minus four.
• 2:14:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I think they cover it.
• 2:14:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Don't worry about the wager.
• 2:14:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Who do you think wins?
• 2:14:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Rams 49 or CK?
• 2:14:46
  [UNKNOWN]: You know also the one Rams the 49ers are all busted up right like they already have what you think about the CMC pictures of him look like a super here like I'm worried
• 2:14:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know man.
• 2:15:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not worried about that.
• 2:15:01
  [UNKNOWN]: I think the Rams are going to both of us in starting.
• 2:15:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, I don't know.
• 2:15:09
  [UNKNOWN]: What do you think?
• 2:15:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 2:15:11
  [UNKNOWN]: They handed him the ball a lot last year and his stats were not very good.
• 2:15:16
  [UNKNOWN]: A lot of people have wondered if he's starting to fall off that cliff that running back's hit.
• 2:15:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know, man.
• 2:15:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm.
• 2:15:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, I think they are probably going to manage his workload a lot more this year compared to years past just get always worried when we see all these pictures of people training and looking at great shape before and then the season hits.
• 2:15:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 2:15:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I'll say don't like.
• 2:15:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't I love CMC.
• 2:15:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, not enough.
• 2:15:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm just kind of interested in him as a player.
• 2:15:53
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  [UNKNOWN]: Somebody else go first.
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  [UNKNOWN]: All right, Cody, are you picking?
• 2:17:27
  [UNKNOWN]: He's picking the panthers.
• 2:17:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm picking the panthers.
• 2:17:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Dude, I think our difference is going to come in and really just shut shut down.
• 2:17:37
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that that's in our real house to do so.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I'm also a discipline looking at the my bookie thing.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I also think I like the under on 47.
• 2:17:51
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think this is going to be something that might be the play.
• 2:17:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Are you taking the money line?
• 2:17:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Are you taking the spread?
• 2:17:58
  [UNKNOWN]: No, because we're we're only taking a money line in our picks when or loss in our picks.
• 2:18:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Because, but since the Panthers to win, I even picked the spread because they could lose by one and he would still, but he said a win for the Panthers.
• 2:18:17
  [UNKNOWN]: So we're doing money line here.
• 2:18:19
  [UNKNOWN]: If you want to do what we'll do those new watches CK do you want to take money line?
• 2:18:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean look, who's gonna win the game?
• 2:18:27
  [UNKNOWN]: That's what we do in this show All right, is money line there and the line Oh, gosh I just feel like this is like I just don't want to always pick with my heart I'm um
• 2:18:49
  [UNKNOWN]: You know what, I'm going to take the Panthers just because I don't lose against y'all bitches.
• 2:18:55
  [UNKNOWN]: We start 0 and 3 or 1 and 0.
• 2:18:59
  [UNKNOWN]: But caveat, I like the under.
• 2:19:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I agree.
• 2:19:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I also do like that under that.
• 2:19:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, getting on that action.
• 2:19:11
  [UNKNOWN]: We've picked the division games in this.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The spread is for don't worry about the spread though.
• 2:19:20
  [UNKNOWN]: That's not what we're doing in these division games.
• 2:19:22
  [UNKNOWN]: We have picked division games week one Tampa Bay.
• 2:19:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Do they go to Cincinnati
• 2:19:36
  [UNKNOWN]: The Bengals to win when Joburo is healthy.
• 2:19:42
  [UNKNOWN]: I also will echo that sentiment, uh, I look at this 50 over and a 50 and a half over under.
• 2:19:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:19:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, you're talking about the Cincinnati defense was got awful last year.
• 2:19:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:19:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:19:58
  [UNKNOWN]: And you have Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase and to Higgins on office all on my fans to team by the way.
• 2:20:05
  [UNKNOWN]: So fucking, I'm really looking for the over C.K.
• 2:20:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm going now.
• 2:20:12
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm going box on the road I'm going box on the road Cincinnati wasn't good last year I see Cody where you bangles a box
• 2:20:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Bengals.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Bengals.
• 2:20:28
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 2:20:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Next two games.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Go the next slide real quick, Cody.
• 2:20:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:20:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I got the next two teams up there in the division.
• 2:20:49
  [UNKNOWN]: We're picking division winners real quick.
• 2:20:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Saints on the road against the
• 2:20:56
  [UNKNOWN]: I think there's some juice in some action right here if you're going on the my bookie site I would be picking the saints on the line here, but Cody C.K.
• 2:21:07
  [UNKNOWN]: made me.
• 2:21:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, there's so many injuries this or that.
• 2:21:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm picking Detroit lions for the win.
• 2:21:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:21:16
  [UNKNOWN]: I am also picking Detroit.
• 2:21:19
  [UNKNOWN]: I would pick them as well.
• 2:21:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I would also hit the under on that 50 burger up there, man.
• 2:21:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, final game of week one is, uh, Falcons and Steelers.
• 2:21:37
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  [UNKNOWN]: I like the Steelers here.
• 2:21:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm picking the Steelers to win by four.
• 2:21:51
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry.
• 2:21:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't have any faith in the Falcons.
• 2:21:55
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, all the more division opponents going to be on one to start the season.
• 2:22:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, yes, and what is there is a chance that the entire NFC South is oh and one There's a real chance there is and by the way, we're probably the most slept on division in all the football Like I think generally people think the NFC South is the worst division and you might not have got the Steelers the mother was I got the steelers the guy who you got in this game
• 2:22:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to the Steelers as well.
• 2:22:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I think Atlanta is a hot mess right now.
• 2:22:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:22:34
  [UNKNOWN]: They're deepens.
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  [UNKNOWN]: It's good.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Swiss cheese.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Which one?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Steel.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The Falcons get a win on the road.
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  [UNKNOWN]: No.
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• 2:23:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody, let's go back.
• 2:23:19
  [UNKNOWN]: We got a couple more calls.
• 2:23:21
  [UNKNOWN]: We got a power through.
• 2:23:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we got two more calls to go.
• 2:23:43
  [UNKNOWN]: with his hands, team, bright sense, the situation of whatever my dude up there told him about.
• 2:23:50
  [UNKNOWN]: So some of you bright fans, you know, I'm saying, I don't personalize, man, bright has not lived up to the building, not to his chips, you know, for what we picked him for the number one, the number one fucking pickin' the fucking trash, you know what I'm saying.
• 2:24:06
  [UNKNOWN]: He'd be even compared here to the camp, Luton, and we didn't even trade up to get camp, Luton,
• 2:24:13
  [UNKNOWN]: We didn't even give up the shit to get caught there, can't lose them, or whatever.
• 2:24:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Really, right?
• 2:24:18
  [UNKNOWN]: We really like the worst quarterback ever in our team history.
• 2:24:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Draft wise.
• 2:24:23
  [UNKNOWN]: And we got that gave up a whole bunch of shit for this motherfuckin'.
• 2:24:26
  [UNKNOWN]: We had Brian Burns, got Brian Burns, and got the M.D.J.
• 2:24:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Moore.
• 2:24:33
  [UNKNOWN]: And Funky Christian McCastry, oh my gosh.
• 2:24:36
  [UNKNOWN]: All we needed was a man.
• 2:24:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh my gosh.
• 2:24:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe go on this rabbit hole, all we need was a quarterback, you know, man, I mean, I don't see what some of y'all think that he's just gonna magically come out this year and fucking do something.
• 2:24:57
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't see it, you know, so I'm not something to be the bearer of bad news or whatever, but I just don't feel as
• 2:25:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, I don't see it, man, he has not done anything.
• 2:25:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I've proved to anything, you know.
• 2:25:16
  [UNKNOWN]: But all these fucking weapons, but it's looking defense.
• 2:25:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Me, he got four fucking games with $3.
• 2:25:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Come right here, give us some bullshit.
• 2:25:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Like he was last year.
• 2:25:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Get that motherfuckin' body real quick.
• 2:25:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Why I think got this because not as many times no motherfuckin' places here.
• 2:25:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Man, this ain't got that cause I was got down quarter back.
• 2:25:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Then, more of your ain't got that just got there, and brought you on.
• 2:25:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Hey man, he's a man, he's going to be by the PIBA, uh, uh, oh man, I don't know, a career back up quarter back, you know, the PIBA would be like two more, more durable than two more, you know, he won't, he don't get injured, but man, back come on man, he and I come on man, I will, I'm just trying to figure out I look for that
• 2:26:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, I mean, I'm gonna come a die-hard kind of saying, you know, I'm all waiting from the following face So we could put it got their hands changed out there and got then just win become a couple Mary football Like man, Bryce does like the worst quarterback every in history didn't be dressed as a mother fucker Like man, you're like man, you're like man, you're like man
• 2:26:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Thanks, he dog.
• 2:26:29
  [UNKNOWN]: He's got another call on the whole, but let's keep going through with this show.
• 2:26:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Powerless through with these topics, Cody.
• 2:26:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well, man, this is sort of along the same line, right?
• 2:26:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Talking about Bryce.
• 2:26:41
  [UNKNOWN]: So, as you guys may or may not have seen, the Tampa Bay of Buccaneers came to a decision on Baker made field two time probal selection.
• 2:26:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Baker made field the Buccaneers region agreement today on a three-year contract extension.
• 2:26:56
  [UNKNOWN]: that will prevent the quarterback from becoming a free agent after this season per rap sheet.
• 2:27:01
  [UNKNOWN]: May feel that broken off talks as camp opened but the regular with the regular season kicking off a deal has been revisited and now struck.
• 2:27:12
  [UNKNOWN]: So I believe it's a three year 165 million dollar deal like
• 2:27:18
  [UNKNOWN]: You just get paid and the other day that's perfect for a sample, they like the perfect fit, they fit, perfect.
• 2:27:27
  [UNKNOWN]: But this article came out in the photo inside their details, Panthers Middle Path with quarterback Bryce Young's contract situation.
• 2:27:36
  [UNKNOWN]: And since I remember during that sort of went back and forth on this before,
• 2:27:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Does he have to be the highest paid doesn't he have to be the highest paid and this is from Tim Weaver It says according to Albert Brewer and Sports Illustrated the Panthers are taking a metal path of sorts with young Based on how other teams have failed that quarterback by making a move too soon or giving up their starter to early
• 2:27:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Brewer writes what is huge here for Panthers quarterback Bryce Young.
• 2:28:03
  [UNKNOWN]: The former first pick played well last year, but well enough for the Panthers to pay him the going waiting for a franchise quarterback.
• 2:28:11
  [UNKNOWN]: If the answer to that was resounding this, didn't take him care of that by now.
• 2:28:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Anyway, Carolina is using previous examples of teams, giving up too quickly, Baker made field, Sam Donald, or committing too quickly, to tag a Valoa, to quarterback and slow playing this.
• 2:28:30
  [UNKNOWN]: And the resulting pressure that's on young should help the Panthers draw and conclusion on which way to go.
• 2:28:37
  [UNKNOWN]: This is sort of drawing the idea.
• 2:28:40
  [UNKNOWN]: that you embrace young, basically something similar to what Sam Donald or Baker got, a two three-year deal, let him play and try to continue to grow, and then, you know, you can cut bait if he doesn't continue to take that next step.
• 2:28:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't want that to be the case.
• 2:29:01
  [UNKNOWN]: I want him to be a resounding success or we want to move on, but it does seem to then credence to that argument, okay, that they could be looking to pay price in a different kind of manner.
• 2:29:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think again, I'm not going to be upset if they did it.
• 2:29:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 2:29:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that it's certainly a risk, no matter which way you look at it's a risk one way or the other.
• 2:29:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Nobody has a crystal ball and what to expect on this.
• 2:29:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Now, if he comes out, here's the other part of this that we've got to keep in mind if he comes out and he balls out.
• 2:29:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 2:29:46
  [UNKNOWN]: At that point in time, well, it's going to be painful.
• 2:29:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't
• 2:29:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Doesn't have another doesn't have one more year though.
• 2:29:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, yeah, but I mean, you don't want to go into the fifth year option without being locked up into a long-term.
• 2:29:56
  [UNKNOWN]: I would if he balled out this year, I would say we would again, bitch.
• 2:29:58
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• 2:30:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Straight.
• 2:30:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, the argument you have then at that point in time is it the prices are getting you up and you're not going to close your the short term for the long You wait the closer you're getting the team act needing to get paid and then it has a ball out again like be dominant again But if he does then you're talking about even higher.
• 2:30:34
  [UNKNOWN]: And you want to play then you want to pay
• 2:30:38
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know, I think we play with fire too much if we keep on pushing the ball backwards.
• 2:30:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I do see what happens here because if you find yourself in the two attacks on my lower situation where you pay him all this money and then you end up moving on in a year or two, and now they're paying like $100 million in dead money.
• 2:31:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, what about this though is you have him one more year right my wrong on that I mean, I could be wrong like this is year four correct.
• 2:31:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, we have the fifth year option and then you have franchise take potential right so you could do this you could he whatever balls out is right whatever makes you feel like you want to get a solid.
• 2:31:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Deal, dollar cost averaging is what CK is ultimately talking about is let's pay it now before the inflation hits next year.
• 2:31:38
  [UNKNOWN]: But you have next year is completely under contract.
• 2:31:43
  [UNKNOWN]: You are maybe optimistic but uncertain.
• 2:31:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 2:31:51
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, like, I think that would be fair.
• 2:31:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I think if Bryce went out there and threw 3500 yards, he threw 25 touchdowns and 12 interceptions.
• 2:32:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I'm like, fuck yeah, as Bryce took a step, but I'm not necessarily going, oh, he is fucking damn arena or some shit.
• 2:32:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 2:32:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, and I don't also, I don't want to reset.
• 2:32:15
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't want to find another quarter back.
• 2:32:17
  [UNKNOWN]: You could say, let's see if you do it again.
• 2:32:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Sure.
• 2:32:22
  [UNKNOWN]: And then you also have the option of franchise tagging another year.
• 2:32:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, you know, you pay kind of, you pay top, what is it?
• 2:32:33
  [UNKNOWN]: The average of top five quarterbacks.
• 2:32:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, you could really extend this that decision timeline.
• 2:32:45
  [UNKNOWN]: That's what I would do.
• 2:32:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I would extend the decision timeline as long as I could until I was ultimately sure.
• 2:32:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that the bucks overpaid.
• 2:32:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know man.
• 2:33:03
  [UNKNOWN]: They had to again, but it was, it was easier to pay him than it was to replace him.
• 2:33:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, no choice.
• 2:33:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't have another option.
• 2:33:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you're committing to a rebuild of epic proportions.
• 2:33:15
  [UNKNOWN]: If you didn't end the fact that they gave you a video of a contract life.
• 2:33:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Could they not have franchiseed him next year though?
• 2:33:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, I don't know.
• 2:33:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I think for all of us, okay.
• 2:33:30
  [UNKNOWN]: You're also souring the relationship with Oh, get out of the player and I believe I don't maybe you can fact check me on that.
• 2:33:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't believe that you can franchise tag a player That isn't on their rookie contract.
• 2:33:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, you can
• 2:33:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Actually, no, I said that with far more confidence than I do.
• 2:33:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you can franchise tag any Boyer.
• 2:34:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you can after their fifth year options up.
• 2:34:03
  [UNKNOWN]: You can't franchise tag a map for the fourth year about if you didn't pick it the fifth year from not mistaken But you can franchise tag a vet can't you?
• 2:34:10
  [UNKNOWN]: So if I'm in my if I'm in my 10th year.
• 2:34:13
  [UNKNOWN]: I think you can and then my 11th year a team
• 2:34:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I think the Ravens drafted him Kevin, that's not the same thing.
• 2:34:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I think you can, but I'm not sure.
• 2:34:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not sure is you're right as I'm speaking out of turn here.
• 2:34:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Because if that franchise tag was available for any players.
• 2:34:42
  [UNKNOWN]: I can't remember one time where a veteran player was given a franchise.
• 2:34:51
  [UNKNOWN]: There is no exemption from the NFL franchise tag just because a player is tin your veteran a team can franchise tag and eligible veteran whose contract is expiring assuming the normal tag requirements are met.
• 2:35:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Which is for example a 33 year old player with 10 plus recruits season two has never had been tagged can absolutely be tagged.
• 2:35:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 2:35:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Did you provide any samples of it?
• 2:35:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, what I think you could effectively do is this and it would be yes is like what kind of relationship are you talking about building with a player that maybe believe them, but if you don't kind of believe in them, but you kind of do if
• 2:35:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Bryce comes out and balls.
• 2:35:37
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know if I want to send a sign them to a five-year deal.
• 2:35:40
  [UNKNOWN]: And if he won't take a three-year team friendly deal, why don't you just say this?
• 2:35:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Is where play you on the fifth-year option?
• 2:35:48
  [UNKNOWN]: He says, boom, I ball again.
• 2:35:50
  [UNKNOWN]: You say, well, fuck you.
• 2:35:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Not fuck you, but also we pay you top five quarterback money.
• 2:35:57
  [UNKNOWN]: For one year you get one more year, and then you are yeah, you are playing with fire if he becomes the greatest quarterback that you will stake your whole entity on
• 2:36:12
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not scared of it.
• 2:36:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I think this is that I think would be the pathway is don't over sign early.
• 2:36:22
  [UNKNOWN]: And I feel like the bucks have caved a little to Baker.
• 2:36:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Could this money set them back a little?
• 2:36:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, it can.
• 2:36:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, no, I mean, it could.
• 2:36:38
  [UNKNOWN]: But again, like,
• 2:36:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Bryce has to go out there and really show some fire before I'm talking about a contract extension.
• 2:36:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Do you want to play Bryce comes out there and throws 3500 yards.
• 2:36:54
  [UNKNOWN]: If he throws 3500 yards, right?
• 2:36:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, actually, let's go ahead and do this.
• 2:36:59
  [UNKNOWN]: We'll jump to this moment.
• 2:37:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, I had offensive passing
• 2:37:08
  [UNKNOWN]: over under right now for Bryce.
• 2:37:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Hang on.
• 2:37:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, right.
• 2:37:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:37:24
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 2:37:24
  [UNKNOWN]: So we'll pull up my make sure I have everything for you guys in 2025.
• 2:37:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Bryce Young had 23 passing touchdowns.
• 2:37:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:37:40
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 2:37:41
  [UNKNOWN]: So look, we're talking about a progression, right?
• 2:37:46
  [UNKNOWN]: And we're talking about we're not we're we're we're over under will he throw 25 or 24?
• 2:37:51
  [UNKNOWN]: 25.
• 2:37:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 2:37:52
  [UNKNOWN]: So you're over.
• 2:38:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm over.
• 2:38:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I got to say over.
• 2:38:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that we think the offense is perfect.
• 2:38:06
  [UNKNOWN]: But tell me, how do you really feel?
• 2:38:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, even the way you said that, I was like, hey, okay, I'll do it.
• 2:38:12
  [UNKNOWN]: But like, do you not think that that's in Bryce's wheelhouse to do this year?
• 2:38:18
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 2:38:19
  [UNKNOWN]: That's been my whole point about this offense entirely.
• 2:38:26
  [UNKNOWN]: It doesn't about what they can be.
• 2:38:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I just don't know.
• 2:38:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Like I really don't know, it's not about what I think they can do, what they will do.
• 2:38:38
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 2:38:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Like I'm saying this is if Bryce throws, if he throws 25 touchdowns, think about that.
• 2:38:48
  [UNKNOWN]: If the over under is 24 and a half, which is basically one and a half, one and a half more touchdowns than last year.
• 2:38:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not sitting here saying extend him and try to make money.
• 2:39:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 2:39:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not saying not to do it.
• 2:39:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Like we can have these conversations.
• 2:39:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, he throw 25 touchdowns.
• 2:39:13
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know, but I know you don't.
• 2:39:16
  [UNKNOWN]: What is your feeling though?
• 2:39:19
  [UNKNOWN]: do you feel like you will?
• 2:39:22
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, again, it's a guess.
• 2:39:24
  [UNKNOWN]: No one.
• 2:39:24
  [UNKNOWN]: This is where this is.
• 2:39:28
  [UNKNOWN]: This is where I'm just so shook by Bryce Young.
• 2:39:34
  [UNKNOWN]: And we're have told you that the most controversial player is like, I want to walk into this season.
• 2:39:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Be like, oh, more weapons, more this better defense.
• 2:39:47
  [UNKNOWN]: It's
• 2:39:51
  [UNKNOWN]: But I feel like your ability is kind of a 24, 25 touchdown guy.
• 2:39:59
  [UNKNOWN]: If it can, that's a 30 or 24 or 25, that's why we're betting on it.
• 2:40:04
  [UNKNOWN]: That's where I'm, that's a decision point.
• 2:40:07
  [UNKNOWN]: To me, your hesitancy, just say that you can be more than 25 is like definite.
• 2:40:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Because if you have that much of a reservation and that is even possible, it's like, dude, what the fuck are we doing?
• 2:40:25
  [UNKNOWN]: And that's where we, you're about this, but let me just say it too, that this time.
• 2:40:30
  [UNKNOWN]: This is where you and I disagree.
• 2:40:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Cam Newton spoiled me.
• 2:40:34
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry.
• 2:40:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't just want Alex Smith as my fucking quarterback.
• 2:40:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't.
• 2:40:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe that's been enough for some people.
• 2:40:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe that's been enough for some people.
• 2:40:45
  [UNKNOWN]: That's not for me.
• 2:40:46
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm not going to share it golf.
• 2:40:48
  [UNKNOWN]: What about Jared Goff?
• 2:40:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think Jared golf is way better than Alex Smith though.
• 2:40:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Well then that's what he that's that's Jared Goff is
• 2:40:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, but if you think that if you think the price could be jaring off, then you should be easy picking more than 25 or 25, I mean, I have about this.
• 2:41:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Let me phrase it in this over under 3600 yards passing for a bright young.
• 2:41:16
  [UNKNOWN]: What do you have last year?
• 2:41:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Let me say I'll say I'll say over.
• 2:41:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm going to support that.
• 2:41:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to say over.
• 2:41:29
  [UNKNOWN]: A third three thousand yards.
• 2:41:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to say under right now and we're just like bedding in a sense and we're not bedding for real.
• 2:41:54
  [UNKNOWN]: These are not my bookie numbers.
• 2:41:56
  [UNKNOWN]: These are stats that I created.
• 2:41:59
  [UNKNOWN]: These are numbers that I've made for us.
• 2:42:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Does he throw more than 25?
• 2:42:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Does he throw 25 or more passing touchdowns?
• 2:42:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I would say that, yes, more than I would say, more to 3700 yards passing.
• 2:42:15
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm going under 3650 and I'm going
• 2:42:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, guys, I guess if just because I feel like a dipshit because I'm on a panthus, but I guess I'll go over.
• 2:42:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Because if I just feel like this, I feel like this is going to be welding.
• 2:42:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I think this offense is going to be welding, not underwhelming, not overwhelming.
• 2:42:46
  [UNKNOWN]: like where we walk out there in the idea that I was trying to tease out and I didn't want to get in the Bryce Young but I did and I know that's your lame and I was talking to Ricky was it's like am I walking out of here and my quarterback through 210 yards and have one touchdown and one pick and like I'm fucking like development pitch, development.
• 2:43:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry, like it's like 250, what is, uh, 250 times 17 is, let's see, but it's 4200.
• 2:43:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, so how about that, um, what is 225?
• 2:43:42
  [UNKNOWN]: times 17.
• 2:43:44
  [UNKNOWN]: That's why you're going to say 36 by the way.
• 2:43:47
  [UNKNOWN]: But every time I used to out, do you know how many times I looked at these games?
• 2:43:51
  [UNKNOWN]: It was like 189 and I took the over for passing and these mugs went 3800.
• 2:43:58
  [UNKNOWN]: no, I guess by default, I'm going to say this is, I don't, I don't, I would take the touchdowns more than I would the yards.
• 2:44:13
  [UNKNOWN]: That's me.
• 2:44:15
  [UNKNOWN]: I think he can be, I think he's going to be like 33 34 35.
• 2:44:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe.
• 2:44:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know what he's going to be, but if he's not over 3600,
• 2:44:26
  [UNKNOWN]: That's a 225 game, right, a 225 game is 3800 yards in the season.
• 2:44:37
  [UNKNOWN]: That's sad, bro.
• 2:44:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm sorry.
• 2:44:40
  [UNKNOWN]: If my quarterback going through a 225 a week, I'm not sitting there beating my chest.
• 2:44:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, we'll see it do a lot of it depends on the online, it depends on Bryce's ability to go out there and trust what you see them spin it.
• 2:44:58
  [UNKNOWN]: That there's a lot of moving pieces, but yeah, okay, you guys are open.
• 2:45:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm taking the over on those numbers.
• 2:45:07
  [UNKNOWN]: This is what you're supposed to make them difficult like this.
• 2:45:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Like right, if it was 20, I would say over, if it was 22, I would say over.
• 2:45:16
  [UNKNOWN]: If it was 37, I would say under 36, 50, you know what?
• 2:45:24
  [UNKNOWN]: As I'm a say under, I say 30, 500 yards.
• 2:45:27
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm a dick for saying that.
• 2:45:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't want it to happen.
• 2:45:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Team rushing touchdowns, 14 and a half.
• 2:45:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I think we had less than that I mean, if you consider, let's just say, seven or eight for Chuba.
• 2:45:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't even know if Chuba had that many.
• 2:45:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Rico had.
• 2:45:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 2:45:56
  [UNKNOWN]: But I'm saying considering now, the only had nine is you're running back one this year.
• 2:46:04
  [UNKNOWN]: they had nine rushing touchdowns in twenty twenty five.
• 2:46:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:46:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I'll wait.
• 2:46:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I'll say I'm there.
• 2:46:12
  [UNKNOWN]: I would say I'm there.
• 2:46:13
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't have 14 because it doesn't.
• 2:46:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm there 14 because again, it's like you don't really know what you have in Jonathan Brooks yet.
• 2:46:22
  [UNKNOWN]: And even Chuba, we feel like it's a good running back, but I don't know.
• 2:46:27
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's hard to predict him at, like, if we knew the Chuba could get a guaranteed 10, then I would say, yeah, take the over because then Brooks is guaranteed to get at least four.
• 2:46:42
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to go over, and it's not even about Chuba or Jonathan Brooks, it's about
• 2:46:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Hmm, I don't like this.
• 2:46:56
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna go on Dura, I think they're at like 11 or 12.
• 2:47:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Gosh, see this makes me sad.
• 2:47:04
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, how about interceptions on the season?
• 2:47:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, team interceptions for the season.
• 2:47:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's go, something that I have.
• 2:47:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Now, I'll give you last year, they have 15.
• 2:47:22
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to go, I'm going to go under or actually I'm going to go over.
• 2:47:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I would go over on 13 and a half, but 15 and a half, I wouldn't.
• 2:47:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I think we're at like 14 and I don't know the number, but like if we're placing the, I think the difference maker here is going to be our past rush.
• 2:47:46
  [UNKNOWN]: they're going to be getting, I think, pressure a lot more than they would previously.
• 2:47:52
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think now that we actually have legit linebackers in the middle of the field, I think that's another layer of the intersections that's going to be opening up.
• 2:48:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, let me ask in in a different way for you, Cody, who will have more interceptions?
• 2:48:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, Mike Jack, J.C. Horn, or Devon Lloyd.
• 2:48:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I think Devon Lloyd had five last year.
• 2:48:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, I will actually say Mike Jack.
• 2:48:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I agree.
• 2:48:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I think they're going to throw at him a little more than they're going to throw at J.C.
• 2:48:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, and, uh, Jason, I'm not, I'm not, Jason, uh, my direct, uh, in a contract right here, yeah.
• 2:48:37
  [UNKNOWN]: He's trying to get paid.
• 2:48:39
  [UNKNOWN]: So yeah, I would say, uh, my Jack.
• 2:48:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I'll go, um, J.C. Horn on this one.
• 2:48:48
  [UNKNOWN]: What about this?
• 2:48:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, Devon Lloyd tackles.
• 2:48:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I asked AI, and I said, give me a number that Vegas would give you for Devon Lloyd tackles.
• 2:49:04
  [UNKNOWN]: They said 115 and a half.
• 2:49:08
  [UNKNOWN]: And I said, that seemed like I was talking back to it, and I said, that seems very high.
• 2:49:15
  [UNKNOWN]: They said, well, no, volume for middle linebacker playing every game is in the 110 to 120
• 2:49:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Devin Lloyd had 81 tackles last year, 115 and a half, I'm going under, if I'm taking the number, I mean, it could be 105 and I'm like, oh, that motherfucker's a dominant force, 100 tackles.
• 2:49:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like this number's high, 115 and a half.
• 2:49:48
  [UNKNOWN]: If I said that, one of them,
• 2:49:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I want you to look up how many tackles Christian Rosebone had for the pants of his last shirt.
• 2:49:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Didn't he lead the NFL or something?
• 2:50:05
  [UNKNOWN]: He had well, I did get over 115.
• 2:50:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I got to out.
• 2:50:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I already, uh, 20, 25, right?
• 2:50:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Mm-hmm.
• 2:50:17
  [UNKNOWN]: And again, I'm using Gemini right now.
• 2:50:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 2:50:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I would have put it into a different context, right?
• 2:50:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:50:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, it does, but it's also not the same.
• 2:50:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I agree.
• 2:50:32
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like I'm still going under.
• 2:50:34
  [UNKNOWN]: My under is, I think he's like 1007.
• 2:50:37
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's going under for a couple of reasons.
• 2:50:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I think people weren't afraid of Rose Boone, so they had no problem running at him.
• 2:50:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I think they were passing right at him at the tight ends.
• 2:50:48
  [UNKNOWN]: He couldn't cover a tight end to save his life.
• 2:50:51
  [UNKNOWN]: So of course, he's going to have those tackles come to him easily.
• 2:50:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I think our defensive line is a lot more bolstered now, so we're not going to have, hopefully not as many running back's getting into the secondary.
• 2:51:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Or the middle of the field to where our linebackers are having to play such a part in the running game.
• 2:51:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I think under All right, um last year the Carolina Panthers missed three extra points 27 out of 30 If I told you that the missed extra points was one and a half Over under over
• 2:51:33
  [UNKNOWN]: But we only missed one and a half extra points.
• 2:51:36
  [UNKNOWN]: No, no, we missed really last year.
• 2:51:38
  [UNKNOWN]: I see, let's do this.
• 2:51:42
  [UNKNOWN]: So what was the one, what was it just you wanted to have?
• 2:51:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Average of missed extra points.
• 2:51:54
  [UNKNOWN]: So they're they over under right now is one and a half.
• 2:51:57
  [UNKNOWN]: So if you're thinking this year or only yeah, if we're only going to be missing one extra point all year, then you take the under, but I think this is an easy over.
• 2:52:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Last year, NFL teams missed an average of 1.6.
• 2:52:10
  [UNKNOWN]: So really, it's like right at one and a half.
• 2:52:16
  [UNKNOWN]: All the tatters.
• 2:52:21
  [UNKNOWN]: How am I saying, under to gosh, if you're missing, the fact that we missed double C. K is a problem.
• 2:52:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:52:32
  [UNKNOWN]: And we're not talking about a different kicker.
• 2:52:33
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 2:52:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's do this one when was and this was when was the last time.
• 2:52:42
  [UNKNOWN]: The Panthers returned a point for a touchdown.
• 2:52:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Like three years, I think.
• 2:52:54
  [UNKNOWN]: The last time the Carolina Panthers returned a punt for touchdown was November 9th, 2023.
• 2:53:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Why'd receiver a mere Smith Marseette 79 yard pipe?
• 2:53:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, this be the year.
• 2:53:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Will the Panthers return?
• 2:53:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Because the line right now I've said is 0.5 that either get one or not.
• 2:53:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Will?
• 2:53:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Who's our guy now from Colorado?
• 2:53:22
  [UNKNOWN]: uh... Jimmy horn Jimmy horn junior as you gotta put apart return for a touchdown yes or no on the season guys
• 2:53:32
  [UNKNOWN]: I'ma say no.
• 2:53:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, he doesn't.
• 2:53:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I do.
• 2:53:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, I don't think he has to shake his hands.
• 2:53:43
  [UNKNOWN]: It's just like, are the odd, the odds are not in your favor to get a punt return touchdown.
• 2:53:48
  [UNKNOWN]: We haven't had one in three to two years.
• 2:53:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody is this the year going.
• 2:53:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes.
• 2:53:57
  [UNKNOWN]: No, okay.
• 2:53:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, damn.
• 2:53:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Now I want to change.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I'm changing it to yes, then.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So two out of three.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Say no.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I say yes.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Come back wins.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Two and a half.
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  [UNKNOWN]: This is the bright young stat, baby.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he had three the year before the difference here is that we have a better defense and the hope is that we're not having to play such close games.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So, um, I say yes.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I say we have three comeback wins and there are three of our seven wins.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I say yes, mine is the over on comeback wins.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, I'm taking it over as well.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I would also take the over.
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  [UNKNOWN]: All right, um, those are how about this over under a thousand yards for Tettman Mellon Receiving over.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah easy What was against his number thousand yards over under for Tettman over?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah over or Okay, man that's understand under
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  [UNKNOWN]: No, I'm not.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I think he, I think if he does have over a thousand yards, I'm worried about what the other receivents stats are going to look like.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Over under for Jalen Coker, 700 yards.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I say under.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Because of injury or because of.
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  [UNKNOWN]: No, that's a great question.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I think, yeah, I think it's about dispersal.
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  [UNKNOWN]: How about this?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Who has more wide receiving yards?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Excel or Coker?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Coker.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I'm with the CK.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like it should be Coker as the answer.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, the only reason I'm saying that is even when what we have seen from Brightshown, he doesn't target Excel.
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  [UNKNOWN]: He just doesn't.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And when he does, he's usually not necessarily on work with him.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Like I don't want it again.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So it's like when you're when I was talking about last Tuesday, or whatever, I was telling you if Excel doesn't prove to be the number or two by receiver, who gives a fuck, move on.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's easier for me to answer the question of
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  [UNKNOWN]: more yards, coker, or XL, then it is for coker, I over under six years.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, no, you're not wrong.
• 2:56:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I guess I'm just saying that if it's still if coker is getting more yards, then XL is a complete afterthought in this audience.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And Chris Brazzle will be his replacement.
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  [UNKNOWN]: more rushing yards, brooks, or Hubburn, uh, Hubburn.
• 2:57:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:57:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:57:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Safe bet.
• 2:57:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I just wanted to do the opposite.
• 2:57:13
  [UNKNOWN]: It's, I would like it to be the out, or we're saying rushing yards are all purpose yards.
• 2:57:17
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 2:57:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, I was thinking about rushing, but it's basically the same.
• 2:57:21
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's
• 2:57:25
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, let's take another call real quick.
• 2:57:27
  [UNKNOWN]: We got three calls, but two of them are sure we've got sea dog in the hole.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Let's finish the show out.
• 2:57:34
  [UNKNOWN]: We still have to talk about the truth.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, after this, let's do the bad.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Sorry about this.
• 2:57:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
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  [UNKNOWN]: But even they're home.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The great, the home alley way more fucking lot only got there right here.
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  [UNKNOWN]: White got their white boy, they took their home and he was finding their mother's father to get them, uh, see, got their business, the business, the business, one of the fucking triple crowns, they took their home with this fucking quarter back, I'm on saying man, right there and I even fucking, they got them the home, put the full we got them talking about man, they took their home and the fucking football ball, the fuck out.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, the fuck out balls to the fucking walls in the fucking Super Bowl.
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  [UNKNOWN]: You know, come on man, let that bitch got there flat.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Right now, I'm losing my high and still got the longest gap down touchdown with the receiver touchdown and we've got that Super Bowl in history.
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  [UNKNOWN]: If I'm not, if I'm not mistaken, I come on man.
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  [UNKNOWN]: But you know, even fucking dick that home, you know, even raise your cage and get them it.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The fuck, raise your cage and get that motherfucker.
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  [UNKNOWN]: That's what the fuck I've been talking about here.
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  [UNKNOWN]: But I didn't even want to come back here.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And I was just sitting back listening.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And I got a little bit more.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I was like, wow, that's a bunch of stuff.
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  [UNKNOWN]: You know, but like, man, some of y'all are talking about he going to do this and do that.
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  [UNKNOWN]: He ain't this shit.
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  [UNKNOWN]: He ain't do the motherfuckin' fancy business.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Fuckin' lead.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Right in pee.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Kirby Collins.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I can name a whole bunch of motherfuckers who've been doing this motherfuck.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Got that map more.
• 2:59:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Matt, Matt, my pride was got a real fucking shot.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Got that map.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Like what the fuck man.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Oh my god, man.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I ain't even fucking cow.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I don't like me.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Oh my god, man anybody's man.
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  [UNKNOWN]: You got a game recast, be back motherfucking sunday, get motherfucking beers, you know what I'm saying?
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  [UNKNOWN]: I just had a call back in here man, yeah, like a moment.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I literally talking about your man, this muscle game did shit.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I literally be talking about here man.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The Carolina Panthers are hosting.
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  [UNKNOWN]: These Chicago Bears, they have the Carolina Panthers have not won a opening game since 2021, Caleb Williams is in his, in year three, starting to become what they hope the Bears fans believe is a developed quarterback.
• 3:01:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Ben Johnson wants to be the most explosive, the most prolific offense in the history of football and they're trying to do it against the Carolina Panthers team that has made some significant ever's efforts to improve their defense, but the bearers have spent big on their offensive line thorny and Jackson to keep Caleb up right.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So the past rush has its work cut out for the Carolina
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  [UNKNOWN]: Carolina Panthers are three point dogs at home, but not out of the race Cody.
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  [UNKNOWN]: What are the Carolina Panthers facing as they host the Chicago Bears in their home opener?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Damn, man.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So look, obviously you've already mentioned Ben Johnson is saying they want to break records and put up all the points.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So this is from Panthers.com.
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  [UNKNOWN]: This is to know your foe.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We have to look out for that Ben Johnson Caleb Williams connection.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The bearers first season under Hank Coach, Ben Johnson produced an 11 and six record.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And you have seen North Division title and your marketing improvement for the quarterback Caleb Williams in almost every statistical category.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The biggest jump Williams took, though, came from the offensive line after being sacked 68 times his rookie season.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The bears actually took a page out of the Panthers book and invested highly in their cards that traded for all pro Joe Thuny and Joe Jacks, Jonah Jackson, the formula to pay off dropping William Sack numbers to 24 for the
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  [UNKNOWN]: 30 didn't allow a single sack and overall volumes with sack don't just 12% of his pressure dropbacks last season fifth lowest in the league.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So boys, this could not be more simple.
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  [UNKNOWN]: If you want to put a halt to the Chicago Bears defense, get in Caleb Williams' face.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We cannot
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  [UNKNOWN]: Where you mean they're offense right and Rome a dunes a is dealing with a right ankle foot right ankle slash foot tweak Right there.
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  [UNKNOWN]: God.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
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  [UNKNOWN]: He's the dog football is Luther Luther Vandross of Chicago should play in Detroit if I say anything is there offense powerful enough to overcome the Carolina Panthers defense
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  [UNKNOWN]: That's a big question right there, while they have high hopes, the Cody, they got to come out click in right away and the Panthers defense is tried to upset that.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, they're going on tons of injuries, tons of weapons of injuries to watch.
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  [UNKNOWN]: They really talked about Colston Lovelin.
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  [UNKNOWN]: He was their first round draft pick.
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  [UNKNOWN]: He was a tie-dane.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And he was coming off for rookie season, for two of his detains, a leading receiver, and pulled in seven year receptions over the course of the regular season, and play offs for 906 yards, and six touchdowns.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The Andre Swift has a thousand yard was a thousand yard rush or last season and I have a pass catch and weapon under the backfield as well.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Of course, there's remote dunes that you have in 55 yards a game by then six touchdowns over 12 matches.
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  [UNKNOWN]: But the banders will have to keep an eye on our dunes a this week.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The receiver left last Thursday's practice with what appeared to be a white ankle or foot injury.
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  [UNKNOWN]: It was not on the field one day for the bear short practice either.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The first injury report of the week will be released on Wednesday, run the back cow monunga has not practiced since August 13th, when you suffered.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, hyper extended knee, but it was back on the field one day.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So again, this is something that boats in our favor.
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  [UNKNOWN]: If they're not healthy, if they're not really ready to battle all of our defense,
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  [UNKNOWN]: This is going to be a real game changer for us now on top of that is Ramadan Zayn the young rookie receiver last year burst onto the scene who is they are very excited about taking the mantle dealing with that ankle injury.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And Luther Burden, again, that mug should play for the Detroit Lions, Motown Motown Motown, but they have invested in the younger receivers and Caleb Williams taking the next step.
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  [UNKNOWN]: What will their offense look like without our guy?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, why am I having a brain fart?
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  [UNKNOWN]: And DJ Moore, DJ Moore not part of that offense, which I do think this is, while maybe those guys were becoming budding stars that having that regular consistent threat there was a big deal for them.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Caleb Williams will have to take a big step forward to carry this offense.
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  [UNKNOWN]: when it comes to dealing with these injuries loveland how much of a problem he be for the Carolina Panthers.
• 3:07:09
  [UNKNOWN]: What's next on what we should know about our foe coding?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Darts that ball hawking defense.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The bears defense established its identity as ball hawks, that's easy.
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  [UNKNOWN]: But while the overall defense was near the bottom of the league in 2025, giving up an average of 361.8 yards a game, fourth worst in the league, the defense became very adapt at taking away opponent's chances return over.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The Bayer's defense was boom or bust against deep pastes last season, allowing 10 touchdowns and 700 receptions, both tied for the second most in the league.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Three Bayer's players went the top 10 of the league in the interceptions that Kevin Buyer,
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  [UNKNOWN]: was first with seven interceptions in the Sean Wright was tied for second to the five picks and to remain Edmunds was tied for eighth with four interceptions.
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  [UNKNOWN]: All three of those players now stood up for different teams.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Chicago hoped to replenish their secondary with Super Bowl winning safety Kobe Bryant, a free agent out of Seattle.
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  [UNKNOWN]: but Bryant suffered a knee injury during training camp, and will be sideline for four to six months, ensuring he will not play week one.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The group did add stand out rookie safety, Dillon, Denderman in the first round of April's draft defensive coordinator and former Saints coach Dennis Allen still leads the group.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Chicago will also return pro ball corner
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  [UNKNOWN]: He only appeared in seven games I should do to a core muscle injury.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So much out for that, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, that's the guy we wanted for Carolina to be a bow hook.
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  [UNKNOWN]: athletic, freak and threat right there.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Where do you see the advantages quick quick?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Where do you see advantages for the bears or for the Panthers in this game?
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  [UNKNOWN]: And as you talk through it, almost feel like maybe I'm talking myself into the Carolina Panthers.
• 3:09:24
  [UNKNOWN]: being a little stronger in the face of this team that maybe I see as a good team resting on Caleb Williams being carrying them more than the talent around him carrying them.
• 3:09:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe the Panthers might be a more rounded team and we look to Bryce Young to
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  [UNKNOWN]: Expand not explode, but like look is that it's Caleb Williams carrying the bears or the Panthers playing has a good team at home.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe the Panthers have a good shot here.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, Tony, you see, hey, after reading these the snippets here, there's a not sound that there's blood in the water.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And then lost all the way, no, they did.
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  [UNKNOWN]: That's just the fact of the matter.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Then lost all of their turn over creators.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So I'm looking about their ability to pressure.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Is there defense?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Is it like we're walking in here scared of the shark Chicago Bears.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I'm certainly now.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I don't really feel like I'm just like fucking blown away by their offensive talent.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I think that if anything the Nudge goes to Ben Johnson, and that's about, I won't say about it, but that's the threat that I face as the Panthers coming in and hosting the Chicago Bears.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we have to defend against pressure and protect the corner back.
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  [UNKNOWN]: See you, K.U.N.
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  [UNKNOWN]: jumping.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, I think the biggest thing on this defense that we're going to be facing is going to be the if they decide to blitz us how quickly we're going to be getting rid of the ball and I think it's going to be.
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  [UNKNOWN]: they're going to do everything they're power to take away T-Mac, which I think after a year and him winning the offensive rookie of the year, I think that's going to open up having a jailing poker and a Xavier League end, so these guys have to produce.
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  [UNKNOWN]: They have to, but I think primarily we need to be able to establish a run game that is able to at least get
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  [UNKNOWN]: consistently three to four yards per carry ideally more, but at least something to wear because last year had felt like there were way too many games where we were getting one to two yards per carry.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We cannot have that be the beginning of the season.
• 3:12:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody, I feel like this is I walked into this hesitant not wanting, you know, worried about my
• 3:12:11
  [UNKNOWN]: But I mean, I know this is home cooking because we pulled this from Panthers.com.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Know your foe right now.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I don't feel like one on one significantly better.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I think advantage goes to coach for Chicago.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I think might be a wash is a wash talent wise across the board.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And I tell you this, Roma Dune's a dealing with an injury.
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  [UNKNOWN]: You put Mike Jack in there, JC Horn, two of our great best players on defense.
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  [UNKNOWN]: not necessarily intimidated and scared by some sort of like you're going to dissect us.
• 3:12:50
  [UNKNOWN]: The Carolina Panthers go out there and do not beat themselves.
• 3:12:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm feeling better and better about the Carolina Panthers breaking their curse of week one against the Chicago Bears.
• 3:13:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean week one who knows, right?
• 3:13:07
  [UNKNOWN]: It's week one.
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  [UNKNOWN]: It is week one.
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  [UNKNOWN]: No, as I said earlier, to me, the defense is going to win this on both sides of the ball.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, on both teams rather, defense for the Panthers or the defense for the Bears.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And that's why on my bookie promo code C3P.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I would, you know, what was it like 49 and a half points?
• 3:13:34
  [UNKNOWN]: That was 46.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm taking the under on that.
• 3:13:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I really feel pretty 47, 47.
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  [UNKNOWN]: 47.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'd probably still.
• 3:13:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't think it's going to be a bigger score game.
• 3:13:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you can go under 47.
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  [UNKNOWN]: You can go plus money, Panthers, and them covering.
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  [UNKNOWN]: You parlay that right away.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Panthers lose by one, but well, actually you wouldn't win then.
• 3:14:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 3:14:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't feel intimidated as much as I...
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  [UNKNOWN]: I want to have felt intimidated.
• 3:14:13
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm more intimidated by the Panthers and how they were performed rather than the opponent in this case.
• 3:14:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, I feel like we're at home.
• 3:14:24
  [UNKNOWN]: We set the tone, we set the tempo, defend our dirt.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I think the panthers, we have to beat our set.
• 3:14:30
  [UNKNOWN]: And what I mean by that is, it's not beat ourselves.
• 3:14:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Like we have to come into our own.
• 3:14:36
  [UNKNOWN]: We have to, our offense needs to go score.
• 3:14:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Our defense can't stop.
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  [UNKNOWN]: If our offense can go score, I'm not scared.
• 3:14:45
  [UNKNOWN]: same.
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  [UNKNOWN]: That's my biggest question.
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  [UNKNOWN]: That's what I want to see.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm not going to get more often.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Some glowing endorsement until I see that.
• 3:14:55
  [UNKNOWN]: C. K. Do you feel better or worse if Jonathan Brooks is not starting in this?
• 3:15:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like it's kind of a wash.
• 3:15:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't feel like it changes my opinion about how we match up against them.
• 3:15:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I would love for Jonathan Brooks to come out and blow it out and as few as eight
• 3:15:14
  [UNKNOWN]: to crush it, but I do think that the Panthers are not that much different without them Chewbe Hubbard in there, taking the bulk AJ Dylan being the second.
• 3:15:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I think the Panthers have a shot to really make this a competitive game.
• 3:15:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, I think they do, and I think to Cody's point, I think playing the under is going to be a good idea because if we really believe this defense is going to be what it should be, Dave Canalis is not, you know, I don't think that we're going to go into Gunsling or Mode just because our defense is stepping it up.
• 3:15:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I think they're going to be playing the ball very protective and I think an under I wouldn't even be shocked if it's substantially under forty seven you know the forty seven mark there should be a twenty three twenty one game I'm not even sure that you're going to see three touchdowns from either team Wow, yeah, I like that.
• 3:16:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean Just to be awesome.
• 3:16:11
  [UNKNOWN]: It says can be slow to start early in the year
• 3:16:14
  [UNKNOWN]: They can be slow to start, but if our defense is good, even if their defense is not good, I just don't see us trying to run the score up.
• 3:16:22
  [UNKNOWN]: This doesn't seem like the type of team that's intending to, you know, that's ever been built for blowout type wins.
• 3:16:29
  [UNKNOWN]: We have been grind it down.
• 3:16:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Less possessions makes more for the Carolina Panthers.
• 3:16:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's bring it to the last possession.
• 3:16:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's make this a 20 to 17 game is kind of the Carolina Panthers mantra, 23.
• 3:16:43
  [UNKNOWN]: 19 type of game.
• 3:16:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel a little bit better listening to this.
• 3:16:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel less threatened about the Chicago Bears.
• 3:16:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I would not say I ultimately feel more heartened about the Carolina Panthers and not that I'm disheartened, but I can't wait to see it come into fruition.
• 3:17:01
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• 3:17:14
  [UNKNOWN]: We got one final segment guys to rock out here.
• 3:17:18
  [UNKNOWN]: And that is where we tell someone to ice up, toughen up, to get it together.
• 3:17:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Our homage to Steve Smith here.
• 3:17:25
  [UNKNOWN]: And more and more to come here, guys, from Beat Checks to,
• 3:17:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm telling you this.
• 3:17:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm shopping right now guys.
• 3:17:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm doing.
• 3:17:34
  [UNKNOWN]: I really I love to cook.
• 3:17:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm trying to I'm thinking about doing TikTok slash YouTube short battles of tailgate foods.
• 3:17:49
  [UNKNOWN]: And it won't be a podcast, but like will the shit is the Chicago dog better than the Carolina dog.
• 3:17:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 3:17:57
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to know and who wins.
• 3:17:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe the Chicago dog.
• 3:18:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Are you picking Chicago dog?
• 3:18:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe you pick Chicago dog because you like the Chicago dog.
• 3:18:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Do you pick it because you win it?
• 3:18:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, and guess what?
• 3:18:09
  [UNKNOWN]: It's a lock when it comes to week two where we go Eastern North Carolina barbecue versus linen pepper chicken wings from Atlanta.
• 3:18:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Fuck that.
• 3:18:20
  [UNKNOWN]: The
• 3:18:41
  [UNKNOWN]: It's our homage to Steve Smith where we tell someone to ice up tough enough to get it together.
• 3:18:45
  [UNKNOWN]: We're here in football, but we can step outside the bounds of where we tell someone to ice up tough enough to get it together.
• 3:18:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Do you get you foes got something for me?
• 3:19:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't have anything to show as it is copyright struck, but dude, these fucking jurors in the Lindsey Clancy case.
• 3:19:16
  [UNKNOWN]: I guess they went on some NBC news station for those who don't know, which I have to how does anyone not know this woman lives in Clancy, literally strangles her three children to death, tries to suicide out of a two story window fails, she's paralyzed.
• 3:19:35
  [UNKNOWN]: they go to trial.
• 3:19:36
  [UNKNOWN]: 12 jurors have to decide this woman's fate.
• 3:19:41
  [UNKNOWN]: And 11 of the 12 jurors wanted to call her not guilty.
• 3:19:47
  [UNKNOWN]: And there was one lone Chad, one giga Chad, one absolute man.
• 3:19:56
  [UNKNOWN]: who said, no, no, what she did was fucking heinous and I'm going to stay in my ground.
• 3:20:06
  [UNKNOWN]: And he did that.
• 3:20:07
  [UNKNOWN]: So the judge was declared a mischrial because they could not come to a unanimous verdict.
• 3:20:14
  [UNKNOWN]: And all these other old hag women jurors went on some new station and there was like
• 3:20:24
  [UNKNOWN]: there was just confounded at how this dude just couldn't get over the fact that she brutally murdered her dead children it's like yeah bitch no shit she murdered her fucking kids
• 3:20:42
  [UNKNOWN]: And just watching this disconnected old broads just do everything in their power to vilify or driver who wouldn't let this woman get off Scott for you and also like tried to say this should be with somehow innocent it's fucking disgusting.
• 3:21:01
  [UNKNOWN]: I hate a lot of these fucking people to those old
• 3:21:07
  [UNKNOWN]: And a bunch of other words that I won't say.
• 3:21:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody, I'm so excited.
• 3:21:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Can you bring up my screen?
• 3:21:15
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't have a great one.
• 3:21:15
  [UNKNOWN]: I probably have a million of them that I've forgotten over the last two days.
• 3:21:23
  [UNKNOWN]: This one, I just checked my bookmarks when we get to this, and I wasn't prepared enough.
• 3:21:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Look, AB, we know, or at least, his Twitter is wild as fuck, all the time.
• 3:21:43
  [UNKNOWN]: and we all wonder if it's him if he's really that CTE is or if it's that wild.
• 3:21:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Most of the time we're like, this shit is insane, but when he makes sense, I'm like, am I do I have CTE is what I wanted to know.
• 3:22:03
  [UNKNOWN]: This tweet he retweeted says influence influencer ego tiny or be a boo 43 years old has died after undergoing a penis enlargement procedure during a vacation in Thailand with his wife.
• 3:22:21
  [UNKNOWN]: And the A.B.
• 3:22:22
  [UNKNOWN]: tweet was not sure why the family didn't say he got shot,
• 3:22:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm icing up the idea is that you just don't say a medical procedure gone wrong.
• 3:22:39
  [UNKNOWN]: My man's name was tiny already.
• 3:22:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry.
• 3:22:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm icing up the PR response.
• 3:22:50
  [UNKNOWN]: If I am this person who is going this procedure under going this procedure and I am dead and I'm hoping my family cares about my self esteem that existed that no longer existed.
• 3:23:07
  [UNKNOWN]: You just destroyed it.
• 3:23:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, tiny died in Thailand from a gang shooting is what I want or a Chinese, um, undisclosed reasons.
• 3:23:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm with A.B.
• 3:23:25
  [UNKNOWN]: here.
• 3:23:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, ice up to, and maybe the family didn't do it.
• 3:23:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe we need to talk about Thailand and their openness about our future.
• 3:23:37
  [UNKNOWN]: They're, they're, they're medical practices when, uh, giving a super great love.
• 3:23:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
• 3:23:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm from a medical procedure outside of where his coverage helped.
• 3:23:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Poor tiny, poor tiny, that's it.
• 3:23:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I said, I said, I said, I said, I said.
• 3:23:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, I'll do one, um, I don't have any videos because obviously it would be copyright as well.
• 3:24:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, but I'm going to go back to something I don't ever watch and that is college football.
• 3:24:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, and I am, uh, for surprise surprise that I'm going to be icing up officials again.
• 3:24:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, I don't know if anybody saw that question.
• 3:24:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 3:24:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 3:24:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 3:24:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 3:24:21
  [UNKNOWN]: So, um, I might send up the officials in that because, um, there's now a petition, uh, an appeal to have them overturned that, uh, that ruling because the riot, they, essentially,
• 3:24:35
  [UNKNOWN]: there was apparently evidence that the officials violated the rules analysis or whatever that work, you know, whatever however that works to overturn and add a second back on to the clock with and so I'm icing up.
• 3:24:53
  [UNKNOWN]: that the officials, I'm icing up the Michigan fans, but that stormed the field only for them to drop out of the top 25.
• 3:25:00
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, it was an exciting win.
• 3:25:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Don't give me wrong.
• 3:25:04
  [UNKNOWN]: And then, you know, it's one of those moments where you're like, oh, that's awesome.
• 3:25:07
  [UNKNOWN]: But at the end of the day, you know, stealing that upset from Western Michigan was unreasonable.
• 3:25:13
  [UNKNOWN]: So I'm icing up the officials and I'm icing up a Michigan university.
• 3:25:18
  [UNKNOWN]: I was up, um, we should all ice up Clemson too.
• 3:25:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Tell me what I just had to just getting smart.
• 3:25:29
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I mean, I didn't get it was rough.
• 3:25:33
  [UNKNOWN]: It was bad getting smoked.
• 3:25:34
  [UNKNOWN]: And I I'm here's my secondary ice up goes to this is like I live in North Carolina and Bill Bellachek and his family and all of that and look no matter how much fun we make of Bill Bellachek and his child girlfriend going to this
• 3:25:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Right now, they're like bill pellet checks on Steve Belletcheck.
• 3:25:56
  [UNKNOWN]: They're like he did drugs in the facility with students.
• 3:26:02
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm like, bitch, I'm not first.
• 3:26:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not condoning any of this.
• 3:26:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not saying you should do any of this, but look at Steve Belletcheck.
• 3:26:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I have a push-up and I have my been doing drugs a whole fucking time before he got there after he got there and I do think this is a measure by Carolina and their little fucking put their
• 3:26:31
  [UNKNOWN]: sweaters over their shoulder mentality of trying to get out of a contract.
• 3:26:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I think this and I'm not saying that you should do any of these things.
• 3:26:40
  [UNKNOWN]: But if I heard that other people in places were doing like, I don't think it's bizarre that this is happened in other places.
• 3:26:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm just like, I mean, they're like, oh my God, in the facility, I might bitch look at his face on the sideline
• 3:27:01
  [UNKNOWN]: He was doing it during the game.
• 3:27:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I'm sorry.
• 3:27:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I just don't understand where I think this is a trino a way to get out of it contractually.
• 3:27:13
  [UNKNOWN]: It was stupid for Bill Belechek to go to the college realm.
• 3:27:18
  [UNKNOWN]: I like, if you think that this shit is clean,
• 3:27:22
  [UNKNOWN]: like what they're not shooting steroids in the bat like oh it's okay for them to do steroids in their apartment but not on the facility i'm sorry so what i would say is i'm going to you as i saw Lane kiffin that ma look like he snorted 12 adorals while he was playing but he was coaching that game um it's all fucked up college is where it's at if you want to make money
• 3:27:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Screw that NFL right now.
• 3:27:55
  [UNKNOWN]: The money is in college.
• 3:27:57
  [UNKNOWN]: You're listening to the C3 Panthers podcast.
• 3:27:59
  [UNKNOWN]: My name's Tony Don.
• 3:27:59
  [UNKNOWN]: That's Cody like that CK That's the show unless you guys got anything to say otherwise.
• 3:28:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody take this out of here Religion love y'all until next time keep pounding