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Time for Improvement in the Offseason | Jaguars Reporters · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

• 0:02
  Speaker 1: Welcome into the Jaguars Reporters podcast.
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  Speaker 2: JB.
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  Speaker 1: Shadwick, Bryan Sexson, John Ozier, Kai Stevens in the aftermath
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  Speaker 1: of the end of the regular season, still winding it down,
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  Speaker 1: and yeah, it's been a busy week, obviously, the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: falling on Sunday and then making changes to the staff
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  Speaker 1: starting late Monday night with defensive coaches a lot of
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  Speaker 1: them gone, and then adding to it the next day
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  Speaker 1: Kai with a couple of offensive coaches not returning. And
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  Speaker 1: that's what happens when you lose five of six down
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  Speaker 1: the stretch and play the way they did.
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  Speaker 3: We knew changes were coming because when you collapse like that,
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  Speaker 3: something has to change, right. You can't just expect things
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  Speaker 3: are going to stay the same. It's so funny. I
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  Speaker 3: think we talked the fine line of it, and John
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  Speaker 3: was saying, if you win that game, then totally different.
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  Speaker 3: You're in the playoffs and then probably nobody loses their job,
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  Speaker 3: right so, and it's probably not that much different, which
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  Speaker 3: so you can kind of look at it as a
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  Speaker 3: positive in the sense of they ran everything back the
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  Speaker 3: exact same way they had it in twenty twenty two
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  Speaker 3: and they got the exact same result, which is a
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  Speaker 3: nine to eight team, and it wasn't good enough this
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  Speaker 3: year to make the playoffs because the division's gotten better.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm a big philosopher of you should change between
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  Speaker 3: every year, even if you win the Super Bowl, because
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  Speaker 3: you're unless you win the Super Bowl, you were not successful,
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  Speaker 3: and they certainly did not do that. So well, we'll
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  Speaker 3: end up seeing exactly what all the changes are going
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  Speaker 3: to be. But big ones already right out of the gate.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, I mean these are pretty pretty big ones
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  Speaker 1: right out of the gate.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I was telling someone this morning, I've seen a
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  Speaker 4: defensive coordinator go and then the staff kind of hangs
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  Speaker 4: out until the new coordinator comes in and dismisses them.
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  Speaker 4: I've never seen them swept out like everybody on that
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  Speaker 4: side of the ball, with the exception of Bill Shoey
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  Speaker 4: and Schwey has a resume. Obviously, what he has done
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  Speaker 4: with Trayvon Walker and Josh Allen, you weren't going to
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  Speaker 4: necessarily ask him to go, But they swept everybody out
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  Speaker 4: at the same time. It just seemed to me a
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  Speaker 4: very dramatic way of doing things, And maybe that's a
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  Speaker 4: message that Doug is trying to send that you know
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  Speaker 4: hard and fast, understand everything is different now.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a little bit, a little bit semantics
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  Speaker 2: in the sense that usually when you fire the corner,
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  Speaker 2: everybody goes like you said, so it's sort of a
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  Speaker 2: probably symbolic gesture more than anything of look, we're not
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  Speaker 2: good enough. We need to make a statement. We need
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  Speaker 2: to make sure people realize we're not doing maybe send
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  Speaker 2: a message to players, you know, of hey, if this happens,
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  Speaker 2: it's unacceptable. I'm not necessarily on board with guy that
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  Speaker 2: you have to change every off season.
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  Speaker 5: I think there is.
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  Speaker 2: An advantage to continuity, and I usually believe in that
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  Speaker 2: maybe this works, you know, I don't necessarily think that
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  Speaker 2: the woes on defense when guys don't get in their
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  Speaker 2: gaps and don't tackle.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe that's coaching.
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  Speaker 1: But as you always say in the os on the
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  Speaker 1: it's always coaching in the well.
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  Speaker 2: And I mainly say that for many reasons because I
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  Speaker 2: like that sort of thing that I may say, because
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  Speaker 2: I think I think it's very overrated in a lot
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  Speaker 2: of cases, and I think players have to make plays.
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  Speaker 2: But in this league, you can't fire all your players.
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  Speaker 2: So when you need to make a change, you fire
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  Speaker 2: all your coaches and that's what they did.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you're gonna have to have some change on that
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  Speaker 4: defensive side of the ball. You're gonna have to have
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  Speaker 4: better players. They've invested money in fully Fonticassi and Devon Hamilton,
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  Speaker 4: and I think both are good players, but both got
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  Speaker 4: pushed around on Sunday. That's a problem. You know, Roy
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  Speaker 4: Robertson Harris, same thing. Roy has had some really big
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  Speaker 4: moments for this team in the last two years, and
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  Speaker 4: yet on Sunday not so much. Clearly, Devin Lloyd is
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  Speaker 4: a guy that they have high expectations for first round pick,
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  Speaker 4: a guy who could sack the quarterback, intercept the ball,
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  Speaker 4: you know, has a nose for the football, not for
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  Speaker 4: the gap he's supposed to be in, because he certainly
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  Speaker 4: wasn't the other day. They've they got. If there's gonna
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  Speaker 4: be change, it can't just be the coaches. There's got
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  Speaker 4: to be some players that come and go from this thing,
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  Speaker 4: and on defense man right in the middle of it all,
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  Speaker 4: they got to get better.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean this is this seems like something they
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  Speaker 1: can work on, you know, trim some things off the
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  Speaker 1: salary cap and make room to be able to go
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  Speaker 1: out and get some players.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean, you can make as many coaching
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  Speaker 3: changes as you want, but it's the players on the field, right,
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  Speaker 3: so you can motivate them.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: But if they're saying a lot of the issues, according
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  Speaker 3: to Doug and coaching staff was execution, I watched an
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  Speaker 3: entire season where they didn't execute those things. So maybe
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  Speaker 3: it's the they can't execute those things. Maybe they're doing
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  Speaker 3: it in practice and then choosing not to do it
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  Speaker 3: in a game. I find that very odd. I would
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  Speaker 3: imagine that there's physical limitations for certain positions or whatever
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  Speaker 3: it may be, but that those need to be addressed too.
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  Speaker 3: And for me, it's more I don't always believe that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think coaching firing coaches necessarily fixes everything. A
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  Speaker 3: lot of the changes is more like you can always
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  Speaker 3: be better at certain positions, and then right now, there's
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  Speaker 3: many positions that that applies to.
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  Speaker 4: You know, if I can turn this just slightly to
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  Speaker 4: the big picture, I get aggravated when mostly younger reporters say,
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  Speaker 4: coach talk about leadership, right, they always want to talk
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  Speaker 4: about leadership. Way is he can learn about leadership, but
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  Speaker 4: there's got to be some of that. Right, you went
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  Speaker 4: one in four in the big games on your schedule,
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  Speaker 4: and the biggest game you didn't even show up yet. Right,
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  Speaker 4: So I have to know why why didn't this team
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  Speaker 4: perform in the big games? And I'm aggravated by the
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  Speaker 4: fact that you know that you have the World champions
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  Speaker 4: in week two your home opener, and what did we
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  Speaker 4: learn after that game? Well that they had a bad
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  Speaker 4: week of practice. How is that possible? Well then the
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  Speaker 4: next week you get a Houston team coming in and
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  Speaker 4: they just how to explain that game? Well, then you
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  Speaker 4: go and you beat Atlanta in Buffalo. Okay, you write
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  Speaker 4: the ship, you run out to eight and three. But
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  Speaker 4: then when got big, this team got small. And I
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  Speaker 4: asked Ug about it, and he goes, I know what
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  Speaker 4: the wise are. They're not gonna be your wise. He
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  Speaker 4: wasn't gonna share him with us. But that's the big
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  Speaker 4: question for me, because you've got some good players, and
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  Speaker 4: we all know where they need to add good players.
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  Speaker 4: But are you gonna change the reason why this team
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  Speaker 4: couldn't win or didn't play its best when it needed to.
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  Speaker 5: I think this ties into the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: It's the stat I've been banging on for the last
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  Speaker 2: two weeks they went nine and eight. I think this
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  Speaker 2: stat's right, nine and oh when they led at halftime,
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  Speaker 2: and oh and seven when they did that. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's a great number. I messed that up because there
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  Speaker 2: was one game where they were tied. But for the
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  Speaker 2: most part. The point is they never came back this year.
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  Speaker 2: And I thought Tennessee in that sense, I said it
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  Speaker 2: on not Jaguars am this week was a microcosmic that
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  Speaker 2: because they almost did, they showed that thing that we
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  Speaker 2: all saw last year and you thought, Okay, this is it.
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  Speaker 2: This is the game where they come back. They show it,
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  Speaker 2: and they did. They got the play they needed with Cisco,
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  Speaker 2: they got the Evan Ingram touchdown, and then they went
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  Speaker 2: right down and got to the one and you thought, okay,
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  Speaker 2: here they are, and there they went. And every game
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  Speaker 2: last year that was big. They came back from double
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  Speaker 2: digits down. This year, they never did it. I think
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  Speaker 2: that probably ties in with what Doug's talking about, that urgency,
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  Speaker 2: that spark that they all looked for. Someone's missing, and
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  Speaker 2: maybe it was the defensive staff maybe.
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  Speaker 1: So Yeah. Apparently Christian Kirk said something similar to that
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  Speaker 1: in the locker room. Actually, he's like, you know, nobody
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  Speaker 1: really knows why we want all.
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  Speaker 5: Those games out. I laughed when he said that, nobody
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  Speaker 5: knows what.
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  Speaker 1: We lost all these games to there. That's just kind
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  Speaker 1: of how it goes. Let's come back in a moment.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get into some of the off season business to
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  Speaker 1: attend to for the Jaguars after this on Jaguars Reporters.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Jaguars Reporters podcast. Japhty, Chadwick, Guy, Stephen,
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Zaxstein, John Oser, And it's the off season. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: playoff games will be on television. The Jaguars will not
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  Speaker 1: be there. We'll be watching some of that. I guess
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  Speaker 1: I'll watch them, John, go watch them.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, if you have peacock, Yeah, we'll be watching that.
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  Speaker 4: Way the way, have you seen the temperature in Kansas
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  Speaker 4: City on Saturday night? Jokoff?
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  Speaker 5: I haven't because I don't care.
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  Speaker 4: It'll be minus one at kickoff, which you'll put it
• 8:27
  Speaker 4: in the top ten of all time coldest games. That's
• 8:30
  Speaker 4: a game you don't necessarily want to be on, but
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  Speaker 4: watching it sounds fantastic. Yes, and Miami it'll be sixty
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  Speaker 4: three at kickoff. Think about that big difference you're watching.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, No, I'm trying to catch up on shows.
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  Speaker 4: I'm on season two of The Bear right now.
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  Speaker 2: It's fantastic. It's much better than won a great playoff
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  Speaker 2: game at the Bear.
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  Speaker 1: So the business ahead for the Jaguars. Okay, they've got
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  Speaker 1: to figure out Josh Allen. They've got to figure out
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  Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley. Those are one of the two big things.
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  Speaker 1: Then you know they can make room and slice and
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  Speaker 1: dice the salary cap down and make space.
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  Speaker 4: And I can get you to sixty million to do
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  Speaker 4: all that. They can get to a significant amount of Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So, but I mean, I mean, Kai, it's Josh Allen.
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  Speaker 1: He's he's you got to get that done.
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  Speaker 3: If you think people are mad right now, if you
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  Speaker 3: don't resent Josh Allen, there will be no one in
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  Speaker 3: that stadium next season.
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  Speaker 1: There's no way to tag him.
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  Speaker 3: There's just no physical way. He did everything he needed
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  Speaker 3: to do.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I just don't.
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  Speaker 4: The rest of the league would laugh at you. It
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  Speaker 4: would be laugh out loud.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I've also got to think.
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  Speaker 2: If you're right now, Doug's having conversations I assume with
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  Speaker 2: defensive coordinator candidates.
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  Speaker 5: A trave on and Josh your core. Yeah right, I
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  Speaker 5: mean not coming here there. That's what you builder.
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  Speaker 4: One sack duo with the NFL twenty seven and a
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  Speaker 4: half sacks.
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  Speaker 2: If I'm a defensive coordinator, the first thing that I
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  Speaker 2: ask is, okay, wet Josh taking care of right? I
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  Speaker 2: mean that's gonna happen? Y, yes, Okay, Well let's move on,
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  Speaker 2: because you you can build around those guys. And I
• 10:03
  Speaker 2: know we're off on a tangent, but they're unusual in
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  Speaker 2: this sense, the twenty seven sacks. And do you think
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  Speaker 2: either of them are bad against the run?
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  Speaker 5: No?
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  Speaker 2: No, I mean they're complete players with the twenty seven sacks,
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  Speaker 2: so you can build around that. But you got to
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  Speaker 2: get them back to build around it. And uh, to me,
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a no brain that you sign him
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  Speaker 2: long term. You get that taken care of so that
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  Speaker 2: you when you're building a cap, you've got to know
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  Speaker 2: certain things you're going to build around for the foreseeable future.
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  Speaker 2: You'd like that to be quarterback because then you can
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  Speaker 2: build the whole thing for years. But it's okay to
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  Speaker 2: have Josh as the thing that you're gonna build it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And too many times ran. It's it's been first
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  Speaker 1: round picks not making it to the second contract, and
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  Speaker 1: no cornerstone players for this franchise. And in year seven, year, eight,
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  Speaker 1: year ten of their career. That's got to stop. And
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  Speaker 1: this would this.
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  Speaker 4: Was this is the flag. Yeah, this is your guy.
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  Speaker 4: I remember I dropt night in twenty nineteen. I was
• 11:00
  Speaker 4: standing waiting to go down to the green room and
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  Speaker 4: I had been told right, look for TJ. Hockinson, tight
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  Speaker 4: end Iowa. They didn't think Josh Allen was going to
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  Speaker 4: be there. They thought the Giants were going to swoop in.
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  Speaker 4: I'm literally walking down the hallway and I hear stop, stop, stop,
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  Speaker 4: it's Josh Allen defensive in Kentucky, and I hear the
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  Speaker 4: whooping and hollering in the background. Everyone's all excited about
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  Speaker 4: getting him. He's a tremendous player. You've got to keep him.
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  Speaker 4: There were only four teams this year in the NFL
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  Speaker 4: that had at least two players with ten sacks, and you're.
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  Speaker 1: One of them.
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  Speaker 4: He is absolutely the cornerstone, the guy that you build on.
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  Speaker 4: I said this on Jags Am, I you're I mean,
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  Speaker 4: if you're searching for a silver lining to this offseason,
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  Speaker 4: you don't have to pay a lot of the guys
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  Speaker 4: that you thought you may have to pay. People said,
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  Speaker 4: are you worried about the quarterback? Well, no, because I
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  Speaker 4: don't have to pay him. I've got his fourth year
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  Speaker 4: and his fifth year option. I want to pay him,
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  Speaker 4: don't get me wrong, but I don't have to right away.
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  Speaker 4: And because if you're paying him based on this last season,
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  Speaker 4: you're going which guy do I get? Right? So you
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  Speaker 4: now have time to correct some mistakes and get him
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  Speaker 4: on the right track. And you don't have to pay
• 12:02
  Speaker 4: Tyson Campbell like you thought you were going to do,
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  Speaker 4: because he didn't play much this year, and he didn't
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  Speaker 4: play that well when he came back from the hamstring injury.
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  Speaker 4: Andre Cisco same thing, didn't play that much. There are
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  Speaker 4: a couple of guys that you thought I may have
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  Speaker 4: to pay these guys Walker Little you thought you may
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  Speaker 4: have to pay him. You don't have to. Now you
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  Speaker 4: have the ability to pay Josh, to keep Calvin, to
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  Speaker 4: go sign a couple guys in free agency and let
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  Speaker 4: those percolate. And by the way, in twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 4: the cap takes a major jump up. It's the first
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  Speaker 4: year of revenue from the new television deal. So it
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  Speaker 4: pushes it back a little bit. It gives you some
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  Speaker 4: breathing room.
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  Speaker 2: And I know Trent doesn't like to do this, he said,
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  Speaker 2: he really doesn't do this. But with Walker, Little Cisco
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  Speaker 2: and Campbell you can, and even Trevor, you can go
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  Speaker 2: to the representation and say, look, this was a weird year,
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  Speaker 2: didn't play injuries with Trevor, etc. Let's figure out after
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  Speaker 2: eight weeks. Yeah, we really like these guys, really want
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  Speaker 2: them to be this right now. We don't know the
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  Speaker 2: market and neither do you. Frankly, if you look at
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  Speaker 2: Trevor's people, do you want to sign right now after
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  Speaker 2: this scene? You know not that he's not all the things,
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  Speaker 2: but he wasn't this year. There's unknowns, so it would
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  Speaker 2: be who.
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  Speaker 4: The players to wait too? Well, you're he's wanting that
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  Speaker 4: next step up from Joe Burrow, right. He didn't earn
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  Speaker 4: that this year like Joe Burrow.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: So if I'm him to your point, John, if i'm
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  Speaker 4: him and his people, I'm like, you know what, We're fine.
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  Speaker 5: I can do this, man.
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  Speaker 4: We know Josh right, we've got the time. I'll bet
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  Speaker 4: on myself. And if I'm Trevor Lawrence. I'm happy to
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  Speaker 4: bet on myself. Would I rather have the big money?
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, but I'm happy to bet on myself.
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  Speaker 1: Kay, where are you on Calvin Ridley?
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  Speaker 3: I'm torn. I'm curious what Calvin will want to do too,
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  Speaker 3: because he comes out of suspension, hasn't played in a
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  Speaker 3: couple of years, right, and he's talking you know now
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  Speaker 3: that the season is over about Yeah, all of a
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  Speaker 3: sudden they called me and then I was just out
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  Speaker 3: practicing again trying to figure everything out. And it can't
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  Speaker 3: be you know, that's a long time to not play football, right,
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  Speaker 3: and then to come back. He doesn't have that connection
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  Speaker 3: with Trevor because he hasn't played practice, done that with him.
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  Speaker 3: Not to mention, we have to mention, there's at least
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  Speaker 3: a month of this season that Trevor didn't practice, so
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  Speaker 3: that's a lot of time to miss too. And we
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  Speaker 3: saw what he looked like when he doesn't practice, so
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  Speaker 3: you're missing out on that time. And I'm curious what
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  Speaker 3: he would look like next season in his second season back.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if that'll be here or not. I'd
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: like to see one more. I don't know if you
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: can franchise segment I don't know what the exact particulars
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  Speaker 3: of that would be.
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  Speaker 2: You have to sign you have to sign Josh because
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: you only use one.
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  Speaker 3: I think I would sign Josh either way.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's.
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  Speaker 2: I get there were things that Calvin wasn't, but he
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  Speaker 2: was a thousand yard receiver, and I can point to
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  Speaker 2: multiple games that I'm not sure they win if he's
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: not on the field right he's hard to cover. You
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  Speaker 2: would think that the chemistry would be better in year two.
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  Speaker 2: I think it would behoove him on the field to
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: be here.
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  Speaker 5: Now.
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  Speaker 2: He's also a special talent. Whatever he wasn't in some ways,
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  Speaker 2: he's a special talent, and he's a thousand yard receiver
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  Speaker 2: and he caught what seven touchdowns?
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  Speaker 5: Eight?
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  Speaker 2: Look, I know there are more expectations for that, but
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  Speaker 2: that's not nothing. So I you know, if he wants
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: to go somewhere, he'll make money going somewhere.
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  Speaker 5: So I don't really know how to predict it.
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: It's a great draft for wide receivers, but are you
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: guaranteed of fighting a guy who can give you that
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: next year?
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: Now?
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: Also, I have a lot of other stuff. You get
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: a draft for too one percent.
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: It's a great draft, for wide receivers and for offensive tackles,
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: and you'd rather not have to draft a wide receiver
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: when you need.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: But considering wide receivers often have a tough time coming
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: and make an impact right away. And would you complain
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: if it was three offensive linemen on the first two days.
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: Oh no, I'm not saying it's going to be.
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: If it isn't, I'll beat my hand and say, what
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: are you thinking?
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: Well, you know about three. But they need to address it.
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I mean it's they
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: need it.
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: That's their dilemma.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: If all you needed was a receiver, you're picking seventeenth.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: You can maneuve room, go get one, just to But
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's as important with this offense
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: as offensive line is.
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: I know you all guys. You guys all spent time
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: with Calvin in the summer too, But I spent time
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: with him in Dallas before the first preseason game, and
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: the conversation was about how happy he was to be
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: back in Florida and how happy he was to find
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: a spot where his family felt comfortable. And I think
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: stability matters to him. So I think you're going to
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: be I don't know, and it could be totally wrong.
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: I don't know his representation. I think you can find
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: a number that he'll be happy with and you'll be
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: happy with without breaking the bag. If he goes for
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: fourteen hundred yards and twenty touchdowns, twenty ten touchdowns, right,
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: you're gonna have to pay him twenty million. Well, you
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: don't have to pay him that now. I don't think
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: maybe some other team's going to come and offer something crazy.
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: But I think you could get him at a good
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: number for him and a number that fits for you.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: And I think that would be appealing to him because
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: it sounded like he was really grateful to be in
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: Florida near his family.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Do you need the second round pick more than you
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: need that if that comes down to the long term deal.
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a fair point.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: It's a great question.
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: It's a great question.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: We've got a lot of we've got a lot of
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: we have many months to discuss.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, you know. I mean, because there's a lot.
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: Of needs, a lot of needs.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: But he's a good receiver.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: Let me just say this. There are eight or nine
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: offensive tackles who will go in the top forty picks.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: There is a center at Duke Graham Barton is his name.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: Who is a stud who will go somewhere in the
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: upper reaches of the second round. That second round pick
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: would be really appealing if you could help yourself there. Oh,
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: did I just give you my opinion of the starting
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: I think I did. I think you got to replace that.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: So that's where we are. That's the state of affairs
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: to the Jaguars.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of opinions, and that's what happens when
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: you lose five of your last six.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Opened the door, go while it's gonna be loud and noisy,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: all off Seaton around the Jaguars display that this guy
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: strap in and hang out.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: Rob.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: That was guy Stevens.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: It's too bad that he didn't have a game.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: It's too I know, a little scratching. Claud Kay Stevens,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Brian Sexton, John os Im, JP, Shadwick. Thank you for listening,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: The Jaguars reported,