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51. Amigos, Afraid! EVPs, Edison, and the Avalon Night Club · Amigos, Afraid!

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  Hey guys, welcome to Amigos. Afraid.
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  This week we're talking about electronic voice phenomena and
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  their link to Thomas Edison. And the dark history of the
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  Avalon Hollywood nightclub. Hope you enjoy.
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  Did you guys? Hear that?
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  Didn't that sound a little different and exciting?
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  How? Cool was that intro song.
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  How cool is the new cover art? How cool are we?
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  How cool's the new podcast name? Guys, welcome to Amigos.
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  Afraid Afraid the rebrand. Season 3 Episode 1 numbers are
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  going to continue just the way they've been coming, but this
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  has been in the making for so long.
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  Yes, it has. Brian and I finally hit the the
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  writers room, the green room. The Enchanted Forest, The coffee
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  shop where we were. And we locked in.
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  Yeah, we just locked in. We brainstormed, multitasked.
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  Shout out to Matt and Frenchie for providing that amazing one
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  of one song. Isn't it perfect?
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  It's amazing it. Fits us so well.
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  It's, it's just, it's great. It's a masterpiece.
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  It literally laid the first brick of where we're going with
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  our direction immediately after with the entire photo shoot that
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  we had to do for the cover. And there's extra photos that
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  you guys are going to see in the future.
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  But big shout out to Melissa Luce.
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  Liz, you guys were so impactful in your opinions.
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  Yeah, it was a little hard to take direction from other people
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  in the moment. I will, I will admit and I will
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  apologize, but everything came out so cool.
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  As we said, sometimes having a lot of cooks in the kitchen
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  create masterpieces so shout out to y'all.
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  Thank you to all our friends who are so willing to help us out
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  Yes, music production. That is a skill I don't have.
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  I am so impressed with Matt and Frenchy.
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  I got to say something real quick because we received the
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  file with quite a few songs on their original songs, which is
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  amazing, and the one they recommended was the one we ended
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  up choosing with. Like it's like they knew they
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  were like this is the one. I'll be honest, it took one
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  listen. They said this is the one that
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  we like. I listened to it.
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  I didn't have to listen to the rest because I knew instantly
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  that that was the vibe. Yep, I remember my first text of
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  Brian was Yep, that's the one. And man, I love it.
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  I love it. I hope you guys like it too.
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  And if you don't, then we don't care because we love it.
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  So thank you again, Madam Frenchy.
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  Thank you again, Liz. Melissa Dulce.
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  Yeah, Melissa, photographer Dulce are a lighting person and
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  The hand model, and that was a real human hand, guys, that was
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  Content is going to stay relatively similar.
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  Whatever weird topic, paranormal just out there.
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  Unusual thing that's been haunting us that week.
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  Quick roundup of our week. Sherry's been putting me through
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  the gym and I told him today friend, I will stop complaining
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  and just do as I'm told. I will be putting my bratty
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  personality aside just while we're in the gym.
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  I will still complain once I'm out of how much I'm in pain,
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  which is right now. It was so hard to shampoo my
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  head like an hour ago. What I told Brian is all the
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  pain that he's feeling is, is temporary.
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  You know it's all going to go away.
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  And when it stops hurting, that means your muscles ripped and
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  peeled with more muscle. So he's building that.
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  He's building that strength. But while he's in the gym, it's
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  all love. You know, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm
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  doing this out of love. I'm not putting a gun to his
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  head. He's waiting for me to pass out.
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  It's happened before. Not with me.
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  That was before. Yet yet.
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  But it's been fun. It's been fun.
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  I I appreciate the commitment. And don't get me wrong, you'll
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  still, yeah, I know you mentioned you're still going to
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  complain after, that's cool. But during it's, it's
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  fulfilling. I'm sending some really angry
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  text messages every morning that I wake up and it hurts to
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  freaking just stand up. Good.
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  That's the whole point. And then you'll see the progress
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  and it's all worth it. You have any highlights of the
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  week? It's only been a couple days.
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  It's only been a couple days, kind of, but it is Thursday.
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  I Let's see. We played one shot.
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  We did play A1 shot. Shout out to Dulce RDM.
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  Yeah, new people, if you're here, we love Dungeons and
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  Dragons. We play weekly.
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  It's amazing. Great group of people.
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  It was a one shot that finished in a couple hours which is
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  awesome. Shout out to Dulce once again
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  for that. It was so fun.
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  We played gnomes and it was very silly.
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  It was great. I put on a whole deep voice.
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  I don't know if I told you but that night I want to sleep with
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  my throat hurting. I had to take some calls because
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  I was talking like this for hours.
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  It was so good, everyone had a great character.
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  I played a little Chamaco Mocoso 'cause it's the funniest thing
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  to do when you're a little gnome and I did not wake up with a
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  sore throat. Must be nice.
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  But I was influenced and inspired by that one TikTok of
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  the audio that's like, I like bugs.
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  I have a string in my pocket. My daddy makes me smoke
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  cigarettes if I don't eat my spaghetti or spaghetti.
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  I have never seen this. You're not.
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  It's my curated. This is for you only the tik
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  toks you watch right before bed that really affect your.
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  Psyche fucking send me down a rabbit hole.
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  Funny ass content. So it was really good, but it
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  was a really fun one shot. I had a had a great time.
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  Oh, I don't know if we brought it up last week, but guess who
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  is back on TikTok with their bird content?
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  Jerry, who putting you on the spot?
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  Come out yourself. Hey, thanks.
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  Yeah I also have a bird page. I I found the password to my
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  second account which is OC Osprey and that's OC dot Osprey.
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  I have like 3 videos on there right now but the most recent
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  one was from the time you went to Palm Springs and it was the
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  first time I saw an American Kestrel which is our smallest
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  Falcon. Teeny tiny.
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  Tiny and it's it was so amazing. I had all these videos.
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  If you see on there, it's just it's a bunch of videos I have
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  hoarded on my phone, but they're not the greatest quality, but
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  they're fucking fun. And yeah, expect cool things.
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  I have so much more. Follow me on Tiktok.
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  I'll see Osprey. It's a picture of me.
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  You'll see me right away. And he looks so handsome in that
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  picture. It's an action shot.
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  Exactly. It's an action shot.
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  We all know it's Jerry. So yeah, that's been fun.
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  Don't know it's Jerry from Amigos Afraid podcast.
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  Amigos afraid. I can't stop saying it a a
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  meeting it. Rolls off the tongue.
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  It's so good, guys. We love it.
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  We love it. Had a lot of different options
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  that our friends are very honest in their opinions of.
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  Like that's boring. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  We, I appreciate it. Thank you so much.
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  It helps us, you know, decide it it it helped us get here.
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  Yeah. So it was meant to happen.
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  We waited until the last minute. We gave 3 hours of our time to a
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  coffee shop and just stared at each other until something
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  clicked. At the end of the day, we're
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  just two amigos talking about ghosts, haunted places, every
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  weird thing that makes you remember why you were afraid of
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  the dark. So thank you for being here.
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  Kick your legs up. Join us on this crazy journey to
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  be afraid, friend. With that being said, what
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  haunted you this week? Guys, I went to the library.
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  What I know he reads in person. Normally I check out my books
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  electronically, but this time I'm like, it's Saturday.
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  I got time to kill. You left your house.
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  I left my house to go to the library.
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  That's amazing. Good.
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  I know I got there really early. They weren't even open yet.
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  There was a line to get in. It's a popular.
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  Place, Yeah. People love libraries.
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  They love that. We love the support your local
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  libraries. But I went on a mission last
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  Halloween. There was a book called
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  Fullerton Ghosts, and Fullerton is in our area.
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  And I thought that's very specific.
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  I want that book. Let me go check it out.
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  When I go on their website, it tells me that it's available for
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  check out and it's in a certain part of the library, Dewey
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  Decimal system. OK, OK, I go.
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  I try to find it. It's not there.
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  What? I go to the library clerk and
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  I'm like, hello, excuse me, Sir, I would like to find this book.
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  And he said, oof, where'd you take a picture of that?
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  And I'm like, here, I know you have it.
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  And he said, oh, it doesn't have a barcode from the picture.
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  So that's probably in our local history section, not to be
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  checked out. He goes over, oh, local history
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  is closed for today. You have to talk to our local
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  historian. So I will be making a meeting or
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  emailing this local historian because I want that book.
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  That is so cool, he said. That's an all restricted
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  section. You'll have to have a permission
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  slip. He's like stretched out his
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  hand. Well, who's your parental?
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  Guardian Yeah. Are you at least of age 18 years
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  or older? You with a full ass beard?
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  Because I only for 18 years and not an old.
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  You're like, yes. You know what was shady though?
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  There was two people standing in there just on computers and I'm
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  like in the in the local history room.
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  Was I prejudice against? Didn't think about that until
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  now. Fullerton Library.
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  You got some explaining to do. Well, unless they're workers,
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  they didn't. Have like, yeah, let's give them
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  the benefit of the doubt. Maybe that's their office space
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  when it's not being used, as you know, when it's not open to the
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  public. But with these trying times,
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  what else am I going to be thinking?
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  That's so true, it's a recession indicator.
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  Local. What are the history offices
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  used as an office space? But it was not too bad of a day
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  because I did go into their like little supernatural section,
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  which was maybe 15 books, but there was at least two of them
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  that were very interesting. The first is Paranormal
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  Encounters, which is interesting because there's no author listed
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  what in any of the pages, no. Way.
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  So I'm like, hello, it just mentioned some sort of society.
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  Not society, it says by the editors of Time Life Books and I
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  don't see literally anyone's name anywhere.
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  I didn't look that deep either, but.
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  He has been cool. He has been like keeping these
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  from. Yeah.
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  So this week's episode is brought to you by information I
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  found in one of these books, which is the second one called A
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  History of Ghosts, The True Story of Seances, Mediums,
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  Ghosts and Ghostbusters by Peter Akroyd with Angela Narth.
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  This book is written by, I think, the brother of the person
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  who wrote Ghostbusters. What?
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  And the entire thing came about is because they're a great
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  grandpa, I think, who's a dentist that was just mentioned
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  the entire time. That's already scary.
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  DDS was super involved in like, spiritualism of the time, of
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  like the late 1800s, early 1900s.
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  And there was a portion that really interested me, and it was
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  about Thomas Edison and his connection to ghost.
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  So I'm like, wait, I need to do some more research.
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  Let me keep reading. OK, OK, OK.
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  So that's what haunted me this week, the fact that Thomas
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  Edison is involved with what we now know as electronic voice
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  phenomenon. That's so cool.
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  I brought out my iPad for this. We're serious podcasters.
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  We're not playing anymore. We've talked about Evps before,
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  and if you've ever seen any kind of ghost hunting show, you know
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  it's what's the main form of ghostly evidence aside from
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  capturing. Aside from capturing something
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  on video, If you get an EVP that means Oh my God, ghost hashtag
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  confirmed. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  EVP stands for an Electronic Voice Phenomenon, which the
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  author describes as a recording of a voice for which there is no
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  known source. The idea is pretty simple.
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  You ask questions out loud into an audio recorder, or even just
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  leave a recorder out in an empty room and see if a voice is
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  picked up. If it is, that's what's
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  considered an EVP. There's a recording of a voice
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  with no person there to track it too.
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  OK, simple enough. I have seen this used hundreds
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  of times across a bunch of ghost hunting shows like Ghost
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  Adventures, Ghost Hunters, etcetera, etcetera.
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  We tried to do it too when we were investigating the Queen
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  Mary, but we did not get lucky, no.
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  How old do you think this idea is?
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  Like 2 years old. Like 200 years old. 200 Yeah, I
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  mean, ghost hunting shows have only been around since the early
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  2000s. Oh shit, yeah, you're right.
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  Ghost Hunters specifically came out in 2004, and Ghost Avengers
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  came out in 2008. Wait, but Evps?
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  Specific the idea of Evps, the electronic voice phenomenon.
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  OK, OK, OK. I'm going to say the early
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  2000s. OK.
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  That's a good, great guest, Jerry.
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  OK, OK. Would you believe me if I said
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  the idea dates back all the way to the 1920s?
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  That was my second guess. And that it has ties to Thomas
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  Edison and. That was my third guess.
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  Edison had a surprisingly strong interest in what happens to our
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  personality once we die. Edison had been caught up in the
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  spirituality movement of the early 20th century, which we
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  already talked about in episode 26 when we did the Ouija board.
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  Do you remember the story about the Fox sisters that they
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  claimed that they were able to talk to a ghost in their house
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  and they were getting responses beyond knocking?
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  Same spiritualism. In short, spiritualism is the
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  belief that spirits can somehow show themselves or communicate
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  with the living. And this all came after a rise
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  of interest dating all the way back to like the 1840s.
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  And if you want to listen to that episode, it is called
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  Communicating with the Dead. Straightforward.
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  How was Thomas Edison swept up in this?
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  He was a prolific inventor who was accredited for inventing the
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  light bulb, the telephone transmitter, and the phonograph
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  which recorded and played back sound.
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  There was a bit of conflict between the spiritual and
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  scientific communities. Psychic mediums at this time
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  were all the rage claiming to be able to contact past loved ones
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  due to the medium's innate ability.
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  Edison wasn't super into the whole seance and mediums thing
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  because honestly there was no way to prove any of it.
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  He wanted proof that you could actually show someone else
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  because when you have a medium it only exists in that moment
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  and word of mouth is what keeps that momentum going.
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  He had heard of spirit photographs and was convinced
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  that there could be other ways to have proof.
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  This is an example of a spirit photograph.
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  I'll be posting this on Instagram.
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  But this doctor dentist guy had like a live in mediums and they
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  would do seances all the time and I guess this is one of the
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  pictures they got. I read the caption.
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  Which one? This ghost one, The one with all
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  the heads. The spirit photo was taken in
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  Lilydale, New York, about 1921 and shows a Doctor Akroyd.
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  Yeah, that's the the dentist, OK, in a meditative mode with
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  the heads of four individuals presumed to be deceased
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  appearing or hovering around him.
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  Thomas Edison saw that and thought, you know what, maybe we
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  can find other proof that we can show people.
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  I see this picture. That is something that you can
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  kind of float around, no pun intended.
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  Yeah, I like the heads. And he believed he could be the
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  one to do it. He once said, I am inclined to
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  believe that our personality hereafter will be able to affect
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  matter. If this reasoning be correct,
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  then if we can evolve an instrument so delicate as to be
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  affected by our personality as it survives in the next life,
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  such an instrument, when made available, ought to record
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  something. He thought that your spirit, for
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  lack of a better word, was some sort of energy that could be
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  captured, that can move stuff around, can cause some sort of
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  vibration, and he understood that sound is vibration.
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  That's how you mentioned the phonograph.
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  Using the phonograph as a base, he set out to invent a device
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  that could capture spiritual transmissions.
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  In the 1920 issue of Scientific America, Edison told the
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  magazine that he had begun working on such a device.
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  Vibrations were the key. Unfortunately, Edison passed
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  away in 1931. He never completed the machine
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  and no documentation was ever found.
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  He burned it. That seems pretty ominous to me.
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  Yeah, like he announced his project to the world and for
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  nothing to ever come out of it is a little strange, don't you
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  think? He said if I'm not making it, no
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  one is. You think it was a selfish?
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  Thing I think it was a selfish. Action.
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  He realized he could do it. And he said I don't want people
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  bothering me once I'm dead. Yeah, leave me alone.
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  Leave me alone. Let me rest.
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  He said this is too powerful. I am too smart and I don't need
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  you asking me questions. Figure it out yourself.
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  Ahead of his time, he said you guys are smart.
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  You got this. I've I've never thought of
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  Thomas Edison as. Linked to like.
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  Linked to like. Yeah.
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  Or that he had such an interest in spiritualism.
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  Yeah. That's so cool.
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  OK, but here's the thing. Maybe he'd already been
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  successful and that's why no other machine ever existed.
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  The phonograph or just the discovery of audio recording was
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  all we needed. Years later, Swedish painter
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  Frederick Jorgensen. Nice.
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  Discovered something very peculiar in one of his audio
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  recordings. On June 12th, 1959.
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  He was recording the sound of bird songs in the woods.
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  That's the best thing you can do.
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  Jerry, he's just like you. He's just like me.
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  He's just like you. He's.
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  Just like me. When he played back the tapes,
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  he was shocked to discover the sounds of voices talking between
• 20:44
  the bird calls. The tapes had never been used
• 20:47
  before. He was in an isolated area with
• 20:49
  no other people. You know how you tell us?
• 20:53
  Like, guys, be quiet, I need to record this and you'll take like
• 20:55
  a step back. And then recording and.
• 20:58
  I imagine you play that back and it's not just a bird call, it's
• 21:00
  someone else's voice. So now what you're telling me is
• 21:03
  I need to go back into my recordings that I have logged
• 21:06
  and listen to all of them for voices?
• 21:07
  You never know, they could be anywhere and you could just not
• 21:11
  be paying attention. His first thought was what the
• 21:17
  fuck, followed by the thought that he must have intercepted
• 21:22
  radio waves somehow. Not only was he a creative, he
• 21:25
  was also smart. He went to see if he could
• 21:27
  replicate the occurrence scientific method.
• 21:30
  Let's see if we could do it again.
• 21:32
  He tried recording again and as he continued he heard more
• 21:36
  voices using a longer phrases and they even called him by
• 21:39
  name. What would you go?
• 21:44
  What? What's going through your head?
• 21:46
  Someone calls you by name in one of your bird call recordings.
• 21:49
  I understand them. I speak bird.
• 21:53
  No, I would think I'm going crazy.
• 21:57
  What year is this again, 19? 591959.
• 22:03
  Huh. Yeah, I think I'd just be
• 22:05
  freaked out if this is like the first time that my intention is
• 22:07
  to record birds and then I start hearing voices and talking and
• 22:10
  then hearing my name. Jerry.
• 22:12
  Jerry. That's just.
• 22:15
  Someone cat calling? You.
• 22:16
  Yeah, it's just someone cat calling you.
• 22:21
  He also thought they were extraterrestrial before he
• 22:24
  decided that they're ghosts. They have to be ghosts.
• 22:28
  Jorgensen published his findings in 1964 and 1967 in two
• 22:33
  different journals. While researchers now view this
• 22:36
  as flimsy research, I don't think it's flimsy.
• 22:39
  He went and tried it again. Says who?
• 22:41
  Researchers. Yeah, skeptics.
• 22:46
  It ended up sparking A worldwide interest in electronic voice
• 22:49
  phenomena. These tapes inspired an entire
• 22:53
  generation of ghost hunters in the 50s and the 60s hoping to
• 22:56
  recreate Jorgensen's experience. I don't even know how that's how
• 22:59
  it's pronounced, but I'm committing.
• 23:01
  I believe you. Specifically, a Latvian
• 23:06
  psychology professor named Doctor Raudev used the same
• 23:11
  methods and catalogued over 70,000 unexplained recorded
• 23:15
  voices. 70 Thousand 70000. 70 thousand 70 thousands, dude.
• 23:25
  However, an electronics expert named DJ Ellis don't know what
• 23:31
  the D&J stands for, but in my mind I'm thinking.
• 23:33
  He's a DJ. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 23:35
  He's a DJ. Well, he's a he's an electronics
• 23:39
  expert. What?
• 23:40
  DJ isn't. There you go.
• 23:43
  He was commissioned to investigate the findings and
• 23:45
  concluded that the voices heard were likely due to natural
• 23:48
  phenomena interacting with the recording devices.
• 23:51
  He said it could have been anything from dust on the tapes
• 23:54
  to ambient sounds or even electrical interference.
• 23:58
  I hate when dust just calls your name, you know, or interference.
• 24:03
  We do have to remember back then they're not recording on the
• 24:06
  same devices we had. They have actual tapes that if
• 24:09
  anything got in the way it would just morph the sound.
• 24:13
  I believe it. I mean, I mean, you have
• 24:14
  records, you know. Yeah.
• 24:15
  Have you heard a dirty record? Yeah, of course.
• 24:18
  The kind of dirty record. There you go.
• 24:21
  Have you the? Bones and groans.
• 24:25
  Those those dust particles, whatever is on there, Yeah, it
• 24:28
  skips, it makes contact with the with the needle stylus.
• 24:31
  And sometimes it screeches. Sometimes.
• 24:33
  What if you interpret that as like words?
• 24:35
  Yeah. So I understand the skeptics.
• 24:38
  That wasn't your name, that was dust.
• 24:40
  Got it. OK, another skeptical researcher
• 24:44
  was author Mary Roach. She had learned of a German
• 24:48
  woman who was spoken to in English by a voice inside her
• 24:51
  oven. Every time she opened the oven,
• 24:55
  an English voice would talk to her.
• 24:58
  When investigated, it was discovered that pieces of metal
• 25:01
  in the oven were acting as a semiconductor and picking up on
• 25:05
  international radio broadcasts. She wasn't the only one.
• 25:08
  Someone else in the neighborhood had a very similar experience
• 25:11
  with a different device, so Roche believed that Jorgensen's
• 25:15
  device had done something similar.
• 25:17
  That is wild. That he was right because he did
• 25:19
  question like, did I intercept some sort of like radio?
• 25:22
  Yeah, it's funny because I was going to like mention that
• 25:25
  earlier, but I'm like, I don't know how to answer.
• 25:26
  Like how connected it could be to radio frequencies and getting
• 25:31
  picked up on that device. Dude, I have a personal story of
• 25:35
  this. I'll see if I'll leave it in,
• 25:37
  but I think I I must have told you one time I went to a Lady
• 25:40
  Gaga concert, spend the night at a hotel.
• 25:43
  We took a karaoke mic on the way there 'cause we were singing
• 25:46
  Lady Gaga. Yes, yes, we forgot to turn it
• 25:49
  off. We did not know that we forgot
• 25:51
  to turn off the Bluetooth karaoke mic that we had
• 25:54
  connected to nothing, by the way.
• 25:56
  But when we left the next day, my car was making the loudest,
• 26:00
  like a radio interference sound. We called Kia, we called a tow
• 26:05
  truck. They or like, you're too far out
• 26:08
  for us to tow you without it being expensive.
• 26:11
  So my mom met us at the parking lot and she said we'll drive
• 26:14
  right behind you, just drive slow 'cause we thought my car
• 26:16
  was having some sort of weird failure.
• 26:18
  Get home, unpack, find the karaoke mic is on in the trunk,
• 26:24
  but it was still affecting the radio.
• 26:26
  Yeah, it was searching for Bluetooth frequencies and it
• 26:30
  found him and it found him. So I understand how technology
• 26:35
  is understandable. That goes to say I see merit,
• 26:39
  especially with the idea of ghost boxes.
• 26:43
  They work by tapping into radio waves and cycling through them.
• 26:46
  The belief is that paranormal forces can manipulate the waves
• 26:49
  and use them to relay messages. Yeah.
• 26:52
  Using the radio wave kind of like a conduit.
• 26:55
  Who's to say that ghosts weren't making that connection and
• 26:58
  overriding those tapes to begin with?
• 27:02
  You know, just being a contrarian.
• 27:03
  Yup, Yup, Yup, Yup, Yup. Maybe they were the reason that
• 27:05
  Ladies Oven was speaking English.
• 27:08
  The ghost let's. Let's mess with the oven, We can
• 27:11
  talk through it. Interest in Evps continue to
• 27:15
  grow throughout the 20th century.
• 27:16
  During that time, a few organizations specializing in
• 27:19
  the EVP phenomenon were formed. In Germany, there was the
• 27:22
  Association for Voice Taping Research.
• 27:24
  In America, Sarah Estep founded the Association of Electronic
• 27:28
  Voice Phenomenon, which provided a system for classifying the
• 27:31
  quality of sound from EVP messages.
• 27:34
  Later, there was also the International Network for
• 27:36
  Instrumental Transcommunication. That one went under in a couple
• 27:40
  years, so it's not around. I personally believe that Evps
• 27:44
  are more convincing now just because of the way technology
• 27:48
  has advanced. I know there's always a chance
• 27:50
  for mistakes when recording things on, like a phonograph, on
• 27:54
  tape, dust. We were just discussing that.
• 27:59
  But when it comes to digital recording onto a memory chip, an
• 28:04
  SD card, there's much less chance of physical interference.
• 28:09
  If I leave a recorder in an empty room and hear a voice, I'm
• 28:11
  going to think it's a ghost. What do you think?
• 28:15
  Is it a ghost or our brain just trying to make some sort of
• 28:17
  connection ghost? Thank you.
• 28:21
  Welcome. Closes my case.
• 28:24
  I literally, I do believe that they understand technology or at
• 28:32
  least can manipulate it, because it's, you know, energy.
• 28:34
  It's still electromagnetic fields, man.
• 28:38
  Exactly. I was there, man.
• 28:40
  I was there when electromagnetic fields were invented.
• 28:43
  True, because for a while they weren't.
• 28:46
  I was there. I was there, man.
• 28:49
  I named it electromagnetic fields after my dog.
• 28:54
  My dog EMF. My dog EMF.
• 28:56
  My dog EMF, What's the what's the drink?
• 29:02
  AMF and Adios mother. It was it was between AMF or EMF
• 29:07
  but I just for some reason AMF just gave gave me drink fires.
• 29:10
  You know, we need to have a custom drink and it's the amigo
• 29:12
  magnetic frequency. That's I got you.
• 29:15
  I'll start on that right away. Thank you.
• 29:16
  We'll drink it before next episode.
• 29:17
  Yeah. I noticed your bartender is not
• 29:19
  here. So he got fired.
• 29:20
  Mark got fired. Yeah, he kind of just stood
• 29:23
  there and watched and like it. Never did anything, he his
• 29:26
  resume said. No interesting I know and I had
• 29:29
  a whole AI bot like do the interview process.
• 29:32
  He was great on paper. That's amazing.
• 29:34
  Also super reliable, right? Definitely.
• 29:37
  Nope. Nope, we do not.
• 29:39
  We are just kidding AI apologies.
• 29:41
  We and everything that we did for the rebrand, by the way, no
• 29:44
  AI was. Involved.
• 29:45
  No AI was involved, just. Side note, because I'm proud of
• 29:49
  that. Yeah, yeah, it it.
• 29:50
  Those are our own creative minds and juices.
• 29:54
  Yeah. You got my mind juice all over.
• 29:56
  You it got all over the Amigos afraid.
• 30:00
  That was it for me, friend. That's so cool, friend.
• 30:02
  Thank you so much. That was sound.
• 30:03
  That sounded super informative and I love that it came from a
• 30:07
  book so. We're so literate.
• 30:09
  I will be joining you in that, in that, in that, in that
• 30:13
  journey. Let's go to the library.
• 30:15
  Support your local libraries please.
• 30:17
  Not this time around, because. It's a little bit more local
• 30:20
  too. Somewhere else but I.
• 30:22
  Bet amigo what haunted you this week?
• 30:24
  This heat dude. I have not been able to sleep
• 30:26
  comfortably because of this freaking heat.
• 30:28
  You saw my air mattress in the living room.
• 30:30
  Well, I mean, you inspired me because we use the air mattress
• 30:36
  to chill downstairs. So like, it's so much cooler.
• 30:38
  Dude AC hitting you Like exactly Apartment living guys.
• 30:42
  And then we put the, the the stand fan right, like where the
• 30:46
  sliding door is and that cool air that comes in, which is puts
• 30:50
  you to sleep. You know, I did take a good nap
• 30:52
  on the couch. We're like, the couch isn't hot
• 30:54
  enough because it's not hot because you're cool and that
• 30:56
  breeze is hitting you. It was so nice.
• 30:58
  But anyways, this heat sucks. I hate heat kills.
• 31:03
  But in all seriousness, one of the places that has been
• 31:07
  haunting me this week is a place that I've been to what?
• 31:11
  And I never realized that it was haunted.
• 31:13
  Was I there? You were not there.
• 31:14
  Oh OK, well tell me about it. I'm get FOMO.
• 31:18
  I'll talk about that in a bit. But when you think of LA, Los
• 31:22
  Angeles, scared already, City of Angels afraid, you would say.
• 31:26
  Are there any haunted places that come up to mind?
• 31:29
  Hundreds of them. Hundreds.
• 31:31
  Anything in? Now ranked.
• 31:33
  Anything in downtown LA around Grand Central Market.
• 31:36
  I've been to so many of those theaters that look like they're
• 31:39
  100 years old. Yep, Yep Yep.
• 31:41
  I think for the most part, and this is just me assuming people
• 31:45
  don't necessarily think of theaters or nightclubs, but.
• 31:50
  Oh yeah, I would not think of a night I.
• 31:51
  Think it was just historic buildings, hotels.
• 31:55
  I think theaters would be up there though, I think.
• 31:57
  So much energy from like plays and stuff.
• 31:58
  Yeah, tucked away on the famous corner of Hollywood and Vine,
• 32:03
  there's a building that's been entertaining people for almost
• 32:06
  100 years. And according to a lot of
• 32:09
  employees, security guards, musicians and paranormal
• 32:12
  investigators, the party has never really ended.
• 32:16
  That's a Hilary Duff song. Today we're talking about Hilary
• 32:20
  Duff. Hollywood and Vine, those are
• 32:23
  lyrics. Toes.
• 32:24
  No way. What if she's talking about this
• 32:26
  place? I have to Google.
• 32:29
  Today we're talking about the Avalon Hollywood and Bardo, or
• 32:33
  the Avalon Hollywood nightclub. It first opened its doors in
• 32:37
  1927. Oh my God.
• 32:40
  But if you had walked inside back then, you wouldn't have
• 32:42
  seen flashing lights or DJSDJ. DJ.
• 32:46
  You would have seen. The skeptic and skeptic DJ
• 32:50
  electronic professional. You would have been walking into
• 32:55
  one of Hollywood's most luxurious theaters.
• 32:58
  On Hollywood and Vine. It was originally called the
• 33:01
  Hollywood Playhouse, designed during a time when LA was
• 33:05
  transforming from a growing city into the entertainment capital
• 33:08
  of the world. Silent films were fading out,
• 33:11
  talkies were taking over, and everyone wanted to be the next
• 33:15
  big movie star. Quick, what's a talking?
• 33:18
  A talking film? Yeah.
• 33:20
  Come on now. I learned that in college.
• 33:25
  Hollywood wasn't just making movies, it was creating legends.
• 33:28
  The theater itself reflected that ambition.
• 33:31
  Huge balconies, ornate decorations, elegant
• 33:35
  chandeliers. The Hollywood loves that
• 33:37
  chandelier. They do.
• 33:39
  They want to swing from it like see ya.
• 33:42
  This kind of place where simply buying a ticket made you feel
• 33:45
  important. According to the building's
• 33:47
  history, it was designed to compete with the grand theaters
• 33:50
  that were popping up all over Hollywood during the late 1920s,
• 33:53
  when movie palaces were almost as famous as the stars appearing
• 33:56
  inside them. Brian Yes.
• 33:59
  Can you imagine showing up to watch a movie dressed in a full
• 34:02
  tuxedo? We could do that now, should we?
• 34:06
  I'm so down I've I've had that same question for a baseball
• 34:10
  game. That's that one's a little
• 34:11
  weird. Going in for like suit and like
• 34:13
  little newspaper hat and everything Newspaper hat like
• 34:16
  little newspaper. A newsboy hat.
• 34:18
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's the newspaper hat like?
• 34:20
  Sorry news. The ones that look like boats.
• 34:22
  Yes, one of those are like an actual top hat.
• 34:25
  Maybe in the winter. OK, OK, let's do both.
• 34:28
  We're going to have one in the Winter 1 next week.
• 34:32
  I think nowadays anybody that shows up to the theatre wearing
• 34:35
  shoes impressive. You.
• 34:38
  I don't want to see anyone with their dogs out at the theater.
• 34:41
  I think it's just not a it's not seen as that anymore.
• 34:43
  It's like lounge comfy. That's what I.
• 34:45
  Mean true, the chairs are climbed so far back.
• 34:48
  People bring their blankets, their little throws.
• 34:51
  Yeah, people bring, they bring food to you now.
• 34:53
  I brought Popeyes to the theater once.
• 34:56
  I brought some Costco Costco chicken bake at the movie
• 34:59
  theater. Anyways.
• 35:01
  Anyways, one thing that's fascinating about the Avalon is
• 35:05
  that it never stayed the same for very long.
• 35:07
  Over the decades, it changed names over and over again.
• 35:11
  Hollywood Playhouse, Federal Theatre, El Capitan, Hollywood
• 35:16
  Palace, The Palace and eventually Avalon.
• 35:20
  They're just like us. They're just like us.
• 35:22
  Look at us. We're just like the Avalon.
• 35:24
  We know how hard it is to think of a name.
• 35:26
  Not the apartment building the the nightclub.
• 35:29
  Not the bagel place. Not the bagel place, the
• 35:32
  nightclub. Each new owner reinvented the
• 35:34
  place, but the building itself stayed standing while Hollywood
• 35:37
  evolved around it. It survived the Great
• 35:39
  Depression, World War 2, the golden age of television, the
• 35:43
  rise of rock music, disco, punk, grunge.
• 35:46
  EDMI can keep going. If the walls could talk, these
• 35:53
  would probably ask for royalties.
• 35:55
  Pay me. Pay me I've I've seen it all.
• 35:58
  I've hosted all of them. So one reason the Avalon has
• 36:01
  such an enormous reputation is because just about everyone
• 36:05
  eventually walked through its doors.
• 36:06
  Frank Sinatra, Judy Garland, Louis Armstrong, Little Richard.
• 36:11
  The Beatles, The Rolling Stones. Madonna.
• 36:13
  You want me to keep going? Yes.
• 36:15
  Prince. Nirvana. 9 Inch Nails, The
• 36:19
  Ramones. The Ramones played their last
• 36:22
  concert before the band broke up here.
• 36:27
  It was called the Palace at that point.
• 36:29
  But that's why when I read that, I'm like, that's so cool.
• 36:32
  Love the Ramones. Thousands of performances,
• 36:34
  millions of audience members. If you believe places can absorb
• 36:38
  emotional energy, there aren't many buildings in LA with more
• 36:41
  of it. Every standing ovation, every
• 36:44
  nervous performer waiting behind the curtain, every dream coming
• 36:48
  true or falling apart. That's a lot of history packed
• 36:51
  into one address. Stick with me here, OK?
• 36:54
  I promise I'll get to the paranormal stuff.
• 36:56
  Long before it became a nightclub, the building became
• 36:59
  one of television's biggest stages.
• 37:01
  It hosted The Hollywood Palace, a variety show that aired from
• 37:04
  1964 to 1970. Oh cool.
• 37:08
  And featured some of the biggest names in entertainment like
• 37:10
  Diana Ross, Sammy Davis, Junior, Johnny Cash, The Supremes, and
• 37:16
  countless others. Week after week, millions of
• 37:19
  Americans were watching performances broadcast from this
• 37:21
  very stage. So let's get into the ghost
• 37:25
  stories. Yeah, I appreciate you for
• 37:26
  waiting. Of course I have patience.
• 37:29
  But they don't. They're like, get to the point
• 37:31
  skipping. They're like, I don't care about
• 37:33
  the history. I don't care about your week.
• 37:35
  Get to the scary stuff. There isn't one single tragedy
• 37:40
  everyone points to when it comes to the Avalon.
• 37:43
  Unlike places where there's one infamous murder or one
• 37:45
  catastrophic fire, the Avalon doesn't have a documented event
• 37:49
  that explains the hauntings. In fact, researchers point out
• 37:53
  that there are no confirmed recorded deaths inside the
• 37:55
  theater that paranormal investigators consistently
• 37:58
  identify as the origin of its paranormal activity.
• 38:01
  So a lot of people have been asking questions of like, who
• 38:04
  died here? And no one's been.
• 38:05
  There have been recorded deaths inside and outside of the
• 38:08
  building, but once again, they're not connected to the
• 38:10
  specific hauntings that are happening.
• 38:12
  Oh OK. But people have died there.
• 38:13
  But people have died there. RIP.
• 38:15
  So instead, the story seemed to have developed gradually over
• 38:18
  decades, shared by employees, security guards, performers, and
• 38:23
  visitors who all describe remarkably similar experiences.
• 38:28
  That almost makes it stranger, in my opinion, because if
• 38:30
  nobody's telling the same tragic back story, why do so many
• 38:34
  people keep reporting the same things?
• 38:36
  One of the most famous spirits reported inside the Avalon is an
• 38:39
  elegant woman from another era. And they?
• 38:42
  Call her the Lady in White. No, not this time.
• 38:45
  OK, not this time. Employees often describe
• 38:48
  smelling in expensive floral perfume before anyone appears.
• 38:52
  Then they'll notice a woman standing nearby wearing vintage
• 38:55
  clothing that looks like it's straight out of the 1920s or
• 38:58
  1930's. The second someone tries to
• 39:02
  approach her, she disappears. She gets scared.
• 39:05
  She's like, Nope. No, it is MO.
• 39:08
  No MO's, no footsteps, no conversation, and no
• 39:11
  acknowledgement. Disappears.
• 39:13
  Not even a little smile. She just and leaves.
• 39:17
  Apparently not. Poof gun.
• 39:20
  If a ghost can choose their outfit forever, why do you think
• 39:25
  they're always dressed incredibly classy?
• 39:29
  OK. In this case specifically, I
• 39:30
  think because it's a theater, it was a place for performances.
• 39:34
  As you said, people used to dress really, really fancy to go
• 39:37
  to these things. Yeah.
• 39:40
  So they probably feel the most confident in that.
• 39:42
  You're right. Like I would want to be haunting
• 39:44
  in one of my favorite outfits. Like what if I like dye my Tonys
• 39:48
  or something? I don't want to be haunting
• 39:50
  around in my little in my briefs.
• 39:52
  That's. That's what I was going.
• 39:54
  To like a cute little fit or something.
• 39:56
  Yeah, I think if something were to happen to me, I'd be hunting
• 39:59
  the whatever place I'm in, in shorts and my Lord of the Rings
• 40:02
  shirt because that's like my go to outfit, you know?
• 40:05
  So I agree. I agree.
• 40:06
  You exist in my brain, not going to lie.
• 40:08
  It's it's either like a banty and some shorts.
• 40:11
  But yeah, so for example, in this case at this theater hosted
• 40:15
  so much like Grand and Eleganza that they're going to be feeling
• 40:18
  their best strong emotions. It makes sense that they're
• 40:21
  going to be showing up in their in their attire, you know?
• 40:24
  They wanted to serve looks in life and death.
• 40:26
  And in death. I live for you, Mama.
• 40:30
  I died for you, Mama. Literally, I don't know the
• 40:33
  reference. I don't either, I just made it
• 40:34
  up. Oh, that sounded like a
• 40:36
  reference. Oh, quote me.
• 40:39
  Another report that comes up over and over again involves
• 40:42
  music staff members have described hearing a piano
• 40:46
  echoing through the empty building late at night.
• 40:49
  Not just random notes, entire melodies.
• 40:52
  Naturally, someone goes to investigate because the movies
• 40:56
  haven't taught us anything and by the time they reach the room,
• 41:00
  there's no one there. Personally, I'm checking out the
• 41:05
  building. I'm checking out the piano.
• 41:07
  The source. I'm going to go looking just
• 41:09
  like at the Queen Mary, the the Lady in White by the piano.
• 41:13
  I would want to go check it out. It's also right next to the
• 41:15
  reception. So I know there's someone there
• 41:17
  at all. Ours.
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  And light, yeah, it's never dark.
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  It's never dark there. So I'm going to go check it out.
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  It's the staff member like, oh, sorry, we.
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  Have a really long pole. Are you going to go check it
• 41:30
  out? Yeah, it's.
• 41:32
  It's scary though, but yes. It's just it's kind of hard not
• 41:35
  to. I think hearing music come out
• 41:37
  of nowhere where you don't see a speaker is so scary.
• 41:39
  Happened to us at Queen Mary before I realized that there was
• 41:42
  a speaker above us. That's right.
• 41:43
  I was like what the hell? Why do I hear old vintage music?
• 41:47
  Yeah, not just like sound, just full hooks, full melodies.
• 41:52
  You know, it's I scary music thing I experienced recently.
• 41:56
  I was going to the post office. That's that's terrifying our
• 42:00
  and. One, it was weird because it
• 42:02
  inside the post office, it smelled like incense.
• 42:05
  That's strange. OK, in the post office, in the
• 42:07
  post office, like hello, you. You can't just light fire.
• 42:10
  Here there's mail, a lot of paper.
• 42:11
  But there's a church across the street, like in a corner, and
• 42:15
  instead of it playing bells, it plays a full on like orchestra,
• 42:19
  really loud that you can hear for blocks.
• 42:22
  So when I'm getting out of my car and I'm like, where is this
• 42:26
  orchestra music coming from? I thought I was going to die.
• 42:30
  I thought the saxophones were getting louder.
• 42:32
  This is it. The gates of hell and heaven
• 42:34
  have opened. I stood there for a second and
• 42:36
  I'm like, well, got to go drop off my mail I guess.
• 42:39
  Yeah, like well, the end of the world, but I need to send this
• 42:42
  letter out so. And it was literally like 12 O 1
• 42:44
  and it didn't stop for like 4 minutes.
• 42:46
  That's. Crazy, I've never heard of that.
• 42:47
  Is this the same place where there's like, people holding
• 42:49
  hands outside? No, there was no signs.
• 42:52
  I'll tell you where it's at. OK, OK, I've been seeing that
• 42:54
  recently. There's like a whole.
• 42:55
  Anyways, anyways, if there's one group of people I trust, it's
• 43:01
  security guards. Takes one and no one.
• 43:04
  Because I was one. I know that they're the ones
• 43:07
  walking the buildings at 3:00 in the morning, doing their sweeps,
• 43:09
  their hourly sweeps. Apparently here, guards have
• 43:15
  reported seeing what appears to be an older gentleman dressed in
• 43:19
  formal evening wear standing inside the theater.
• 43:22
  Sometimes he's watching the stage, other times he's standing
• 43:25
  in a balcony. And then he fades away.
• 43:30
  No scream. There's no eyes that make eye
• 43:33
  contact with you or glowing. It's almost like he never
• 43:37
  realized the show ended. Wow, and he's still just
• 43:40
  watching. He's still watching.
• 43:42
  That's sad. That's melancholy.
• 43:45
  I love that. Yes, it is Mr. Melancholy.
• 43:47
  That's what they should call him.
• 43:49
  Wow, the killer should make a song about him.
• 43:52
  The killer the killer the killer the killer the killer where he.
• 43:57
  Could be anywhere. One of the most interesting ones
• 43:59
  that I've found. During the 1963 and 1964 ABC
• 44:03
  renovation, the building was completely rewired.
• 44:06
  The archives specifically mentioned the archives.
• 44:10
  The Oh, Jerry was in the archives.
• 44:16
  Some sources specifically mentioned the archives.
• 44:19
  The archives. The electrician's control area
• 44:23
  was balcony located. ABC completely rewired for all
• 44:28
  electrical and video and sound equipment.
• 44:31
  One of the recurring ghost stories is a mischievous
• 44:34
  electrician. Oh my God, DJ, there's it's DJ
• 44:38
  again. He can't escape DJ.
• 44:42
  He's. Always hooking up his his his.
• 44:45
  As DJ said, there's no evidence connecting those two facts.
• 44:50
  And I'm not saying the electrician worked on the ACABC
• 44:52
  renovation, but I do think it's funny that one of the ghosts
• 44:56
  people claim to see is an electrician in a building famous
• 44:59
  for one of the biggest television rewiring projects in
• 45:02
  Hollywood history. 1 explanation Paranormal investigators ring up
• 45:06
  isn't tied to a specific ghost. It's aligned to more of residual
• 45:10
  hauntings which you've gone over.
• 45:11
  For those that have been with us or just know.
• 45:14
  Amazing. Here's a sticker.
• 45:17
  If you don't have a clue, it's the idea that the powerful
• 45:20
  emotional events don't create spirits.
• 45:23
  They leave behind recordings. Now you know.
• 45:27
  Here's your sticker. Almost like the building, it's
• 45:30
  replaying events from the past. If you got nearly 100 years of
• 45:34
  concerts, laughter, heartbreak, applause, could those moments
• 45:39
  somehow leave an imprint? Science hasn't demonstrated that
• 45:41
  this happens, but it's interesting how often old
• 45:44
  theaters around the World Report nearly identical experiences.
• 45:47
  So this is going back to what you mentioned.
• 45:50
  There's people dressed in period clothing, phantom applause.
• 45:53
  There's music playing from a building, from a room, figures
• 45:57
  watching from empty seats. Whether that's psychology,
• 46:00
  architecture, or something we don't understand, it's hard to
• 46:04
  ignore how similar these stories are.
• 46:06
  And I don't think you're ready for this.
• 46:08
  OK, try. Me.
• 46:10
  If the Avalon IT offered us a private overnight investigation,
• 46:14
  no audience, no security, just us, would you actually do it?
• 46:20
  Yes, I'd be so scared, but yes. Because guess what?
• 46:25
  What? I've just received an e-mail
• 46:28
  with an invite. Wait, what?
• 46:31
  To switch my Internet. Provider.
• 46:32
  Oh my God, it. The guys, no, we didn't get it
• 46:35
  invited to the Avalon yet. This.
• 46:38
  Is going to become amigo afraid podcast.
• 46:40
  I mean, Jerry off go get, get out of here.
• 46:46
  Thank you. Thank you.
• 46:47
  I'll be back on Thursday, every Thursday.
• 46:51
  Not if I have a second I. Have 50% of this business.
• 46:56
  The Avalon is one of those rare places where history and the
• 46:59
  paranormal seem to overlap naturally.
• 47:01
  Whether you believe in every ghost story or not, there's no
• 47:05
  denying the building has witnessed nearly a century of
• 47:08
  human emotion. It has seen careers launched,
• 47:11
  legends perform. Emo night.
• 47:14
  Which is when I went back in 2022, Yeah.
• 47:16
  I was not there. Yep, you're.
• 47:18
  Right, you were not there, but I had a grand old time in my suit.
• 47:22
  I'm just kidding. I was we.
• 47:23
  Weren't friends yet? We weren't.
• 47:26
  In 2022, I think we just barely knew each other.
• 47:28
  Yeah, I think like did I give you a ride back then or no,
• 47:30
  probably it was around that time.
• 47:32
  I think so. Well, yeah, I was in a band
• 47:35
  T-shirt, so wearing the same attack, I could have guessed.
• 47:41
  Generations of audiences come and go, and maybe that's enough
• 47:44
  to make a place feel alive. Or maybe when the music starts,
• 47:49
  some performers never hear the final curtain call.
• 47:55
  The never ending concert. A never ending concert.
• 47:58
  I don't remember smelling a very floral perfume do.
• 48:02
  You see a DJ, there was a DJ, He might have been a ghost there.
• 48:06
  Was a DJ. Oh my God.
• 48:07
  Was he up in the balcony? No, it it was up in the.
• 48:09
  Balcony. Oh my gosh.
• 48:10
  It was in one of the small rooms.
• 48:12
  That place was so emo. Night there was so cool because
• 48:14
  like obviously the main. I just saw a shadow go outside
• 48:17
  the window by the way, Sorry. Last week I asked you, or two
• 48:22
  weeks ago I asked you if there was a shadow or something at
• 48:24
  your window. Are you looking through the
• 48:25
  blinds? You said yes, I'm onos.
• 48:28
  I can't the. Microphone doesn't search that
• 48:30
  far. Fine.
• 48:31
  I'll look. No, there can't be anything over
• 48:32
  there. I hope not.
• 48:33
  There's a really tall weed. Like an actual weed.
• 48:37
  Not Jerry. Guys, that's two times today.
• 48:46
  You stressed me out. Amigo.
• 48:52
  Afraid. I'm afraid.
• 48:55
  I'm afraid. I apologize if that was a big
• 48:58
  history lesson, but it just really excited me because I've
• 49:01
  been there and we're calling back.
• 49:04
  Everything is dark and emoy and, you know, just darks.
• 49:09
  Yeah. So nothing was out of the
• 49:10
  ordinary. If there was something that was
• 49:13
  paranormal happening, I could have just been like, oh, that's
• 49:15
  cool installment. Wow.
• 49:17
  Sick. Moving on, Head banging,
• 49:21
  moshing. Good times.
• 49:25
  You mentioned you were there for emo night, probably drinking.
• 49:29
  Everyone was probably drinking. There is a show I watch on
• 49:34
  YouTube that I just started watching and I know normally we
• 49:37
  recommend songs, but this week you have my mind on this, where
• 49:41
  this group of people, they think that you are more prone to
• 49:44
  seeing some sort of ghost or experiencing something's
• 49:48
  paranormal. If you are under the influence
• 49:50
  of something and it's all really silly.
• 49:52
  It's really funny. It's called Scared and Impaired.
• 49:56
  That's a great name by the Friday.
• 49:58
  Beers YouTube channel, I know, I think it's a network of like
• 50:01
  creators and podcasters and stuff.
• 50:04
  I think that's so funny and it just reminded me of that.
• 50:06
  But they do ghost hunting where someone is drunk, someone's
• 50:10
  high, and they're just trying their best to to capture ghost
• 50:14
  hunting evidence, dude. That sounds so stressful, being
• 50:20
  already under the influence and then like you're.
• 50:22
  But they have money, so they have a crew.
• 50:24
  Oh, for sure it's not them also trying to manage all the
• 50:27
  technology and recording themselves.
• 50:29
  They they're just the talent. They're they're being drunk, put
• 50:32
  into a a black room with a night vision camera.
• 50:35
  Gotcha, gotcha. You know, as as a smaller
• 50:36
  production ourselves. It's really hard.
• 50:38
  It's really hard. I can see that like being an
• 50:40
  issue for us. Yeah, I have to hold the camera
• 50:41
  for Jerry. Yeah, yeah, it's a camera for
• 50:43
  me. We have to hold the mics so hard
• 50:45
  to make sure that our it's connected to Bluetooth.
• 50:47
  You know how hard it is. Oh my God.
• 50:49
  Bluetooth Bluetooth is so hard. We should have a degree in
• 50:51
  Bluetooth. So that's so that sounds like
• 50:53
  that sounds fun. Yeah.
• 50:54
  Thank you for recommending. That's my recommendation instead
• 50:56
  of a song this week. OK, cool.
• 50:57
  I mean, I'm going to be a little basic and I'm going to recommend
• 51:01
  a a song by the Ramones I. Was about to say that.
• 51:03
  I want to be sedated as, as I know, very obvious, but that
• 51:07
  song is very special to me. It was one of the first Ramones
• 51:10
  songs that I heard when I was like 6 in ACD player, my dad's
• 51:16
  car. So hey, that's an important
• 51:19
  song, you know? Your dad really raised up all.
• 51:22
  The music was that. So yeah, if you haven't listened
• 51:25
  to it, wow, that's crazy. Go listen to it.
• 51:28
  Hype the hype song. I want to be sedated under the
• 51:32
  influence. Oh my God.
• 51:33
  Wow, I just saw the neurons connect and.
• 51:35
  Jury's face sedated. Ghost hunting.
• 51:39
  Sedated and surprised. 20/20/24 hours ago.
• 51:42
  I don't want to be sedated and surprised.
• 51:43
  I don't want to be sedated. Oh no, we're going to no
• 51:46
  copyrighted. You saying that so well content
• 51:49
  ID is going to get you. Fuck.
• 51:51
  Well guys, that was the first episode of season 3.
• 51:55
  Of Amigos afraid. Can I think one more group of
• 52:00
  people? Yeah.
• 52:01
  I just want to thank the non existent contributions from our
• 52:03
  imaginary donors. Without you none of this would
• 52:05
  have been possible. Thank you so much.
• 52:06
  Thank you for all the imaginary money you've donated.
• 52:08
  We've been able to do so many imaginary things.
• 52:11
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And now book a tour.
• 52:13
  It's a reality. We're on an imaginary tour right
• 52:15
  now. We are.
• 52:16
  You can play it on Spotify every Thursday.
• 52:19
  Every Thursday on all platforms. All platforms where podcasts are
• 52:22
  hosted. I hope you have a great day.
• 52:24
  Happy Thursday. Thank you for listening.
• 52:27
  I'm Brian. No Jerry.
• 52:29
  That has to be left behind. He's Jerry.
• 52:31
  I'm Brian. That's Jerry.
• 52:33
  And we are Amigos. Afraid.
• 52:37
  Cue the outro song.