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Pfizer Has Been Caught RED HANDED w/ Dr. Chris Flowers · Man in America Podcast

• 0:13
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. As we're looking forward to, hopefully, a positive change in the administration and, hopefully, real justice as it relates to the massive deep state that's been corrupting our country and harming, we, the people, for a very long time. One of the areas I think a lot of us really wanna see justice justice is within the food and medical industries, you know, FDA, CDC, etcetera. And specifically with what happened with the COVID vaccines, we wanna see the data.
• 0:50
  We wanna see, justice for any criminal intent, whether it was hiding information, misleading people, etcetera. And so one of the big things at the center of this is what we have has been referred to as the Pfizer papers. Right? It was the, the clinical, you know, trial, all the data stuff from the development of the Pfizer, COVID vaccines that initially was supposed to be basically hidden from public view for seventy five years. Now there's been a lot of courageous people that have gotten that information out, you know, through FOIA requests, etcetera.
• 1:22
  And but now we've got these these stacks of documents that are heavily redacted, which raises all kinds of red flags. And so my guest today is doctor Chris Flowers, who I've had on before. He is a a very, very renowned, you know, with a focus on cancer, diagnosing and treating cancer. But he has been integral in the the the crafting and the research that have gone into the recent book published called the Pfizer papers. Now Naomi Wolf has been at the the helm of this, and this is, you know, a collaboration with Daily Clout and War Room.
• 1:53
  And so, doctor Flowers is gonna come on today and talk about what they actually discovered, because they had a team of thousands of people combing through all this redacted but released information, and they have found some pretty serious red flags. But Chris is also gonna be highlighting some more information about this replicon vaccine and the absolute frightening scenario of what a self replicating vaccine could be doing, and what kind the kind of havoc that could be wreaked upon our entire world because of this. So that's gonna be a very important part of this discussion as well. So, folks, please enjoy the interview with doctor Chris Flowers. Imagine a future where your wealth is untouchable.
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• 4:23
  Doctor Chris Flowers, it's a wonderful honor to have you back on the show. Thank you so much for joining us today.
• 4:29
  Speaker 2: Thanks, Seth. Thank you for inviting me again.
• 4:32
  Seth Holehouse: Absolutely. Well, it was kinda funny because there was a the book that, you know, folks see right behind you there on full screen so you can see the Pfizer papers, right, that Naomi Wolf was very central to. She recently had a book party, and then she had the next morning a kind of more of a private little brunch at her apartment in Brooklyn. And I I that was what I was able to make. So I showed up there.
• 4:55
  I walked in. I saw you and your wife sitting there on the couch. I was like, oh, I know you. I've interviewed you for you before. So it was wonderful meeting you in person, especially here in in America.
• 5:04
  And thank you for coming, but it was also good because we gotta talk about a lot of things and then, you know, talk about, you know, what you're what you're working on. And so I guess I'll just I'll hand things over to you in in in terms of where you wanna start because you've been on the forefront in exposing and researching in in a very responsible way, I I would say. And then, you know, as a as a medical doctor, it makes sense that you would be. Right? So why don't you walk us through with with where your process is at?
• 5:34
  What you think are the important topics that, you know, people should be focusing on, especially as we're hopefully heading into a new administration that will actually start taking action against the corruption of the the giant pharmaceutical companies. Right? Yeah. Fingers crossed. Right?
• 5:49
  Speaker 2: Fingers crossed provided we get to January. Yes. I guess is another question. Yeah. Well, thanks.
• 5:56
  Just to point out, I'm I'm just I'm representing, 3,200 plus volunteers who at some stage have taken part in the analysis of these Pfizer documents that were hidden for seventy five years. Now I will point out right from the get go, we only received a tiny fraction of the, papers that we need to see, and a lot of the ones we received were redacted. The PDFs had, were basically composed of JPEGs, almost like one of these, threatening letters cut out of newspapers that you used to see, to make life very difficult for us to analyze the Pfizer data. Now the good thing, of course, is that Ron Johnson, in particular, will have, he'll be in charge of, the committees one of the committees, in the upcoming administration where he'll have subpoena power, and he's already asked for the unredacted documents. Aaron Siri has also been going after some of the the documents that have just not been released.
• 7:07
  We haven't even really got all the information from the original phase one safety trials, which, of course, should be the most important thing. But getting back to it, we produced our first book of reports back in 2023. And, this this current book is also they're historical documents of evidence, that we have given to, congress, of reports of what we have found in Pfizer's own words. And the thing we have to remember is that the Pfizer documents only cover the the clinical trial plus the first up to six months after the rollout of the vaccine and the clinical trial, which is the only regulatory things they they supposedly had to do. So there's a lot been going on since then.
• 8:06
  We have actually done a full scale forensic analysis of the Pfizer clinical trial. And the team three, which is mainly the medical and science team of the documents analysis project, have actually managed to get a peer reviewed published, paper on the forensic analysis of the Pfizer clinical trial. This came out in November of last year, so we're we're a year on. Has it had any impact? Well, the answer is yes, because the things that we found are quite surprising, and I'll cover that in a minute.
• 8:47
  But I wanted to, point out that, in fact, we have used this information in our testimonies across the world. I've been involved, and a number of other colleagues have been involved, in the National, Citizens Inquiry in Canada. I've done, five testimonies now in Brazil in both, regional, and federal, jurisdictions in inquiries there. And doctor JK was involved in the senate in Australia, and she covered the hidden deaths there. And then most recently, I was in Tokyo with a number of other freedom, medic medical and freedom fighters, trying to, encourage the Japanese population not to get involved with something called Replicon, which I'd like to just cover towards the end because this is the latest, hot topic, and it's going to be ongoing, I think, for us as we consider these gene therapy products going into the future because there are some serious questions that still remain because we still have not had any real safety data to prove that mRNA lipid nanoparticle injections are safe in any age group, least of all, in babies and young people.
• 10:25
  And the evidence has been that, well, in older people as well where we were supposed to be protecting grandma, if you remember the narrative. Well, in fact, that's that's where most of the deaths occurred from COVID way back in the in in the early days. So things have gone pear shaped, I think, for for Pfizer. We've seen that in their stock price. And so they've rapidly moved on.
• 10:53
  They've acquired different, companies and tried to move on to some of the other, other products that are very good for treating the side effects of the drugs they've been giving to people in the first place. So quite crazy, really.
• 11:10
  Seth Holehouse: It it really is actually if you think about that too, I remember when I first saw one of the the news articles, you know, many months back about how Pfizer made this big investment into a cancer treatment company. And it was, you know, I mean, you know, the discussion you and I had before on on the show was turbo cancer and and all that, you know, you've got an extensive experience working with treating and diagnosing cancer, and you were seeing things that you'd never seen before. You know, stage one, all you know, stage four a week later, you know, kinds of things. And so just coincidentally at the same time, Pfizer's now saying, hey. You know, we're gonna invest heavily into cancer treatments.
• 11:44
  It's like, oh, yeah. That seemed it's almost like you you go you you go bomb a country, and then you go in there afterwards and sell them shelters, temporary shelters to to set up after the bomb. Right? It's like, oh, it seems like a pretty good business, doesn't it? And so if I understand correctly, so specifically the book, the Pfizer papers, that was, you know, really based on this the data from Pfizer's clinical trials that were supposed to basically be sealed from public view for seventy five years where, I mean, almost everyone who got the vaccine would be dead by that point even if just by natural causes.
• 12:19
  Right? So it'd be pretty useless, you know, seventy five it's like us going back and looking at agent orange seventy five years later and say, you know, it's actually causing a bunch of birth defects over there in Vietnam. We probably shouldn't have done that. Right? It's like, well, okay.
• 12:32
  So so
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: This normality, isn't it? I mean, let's face it. We still don't have the evidence about who shot JFK. Exactly. JFK files.
• 12:45
  Don't forget. They need to be released, and, hopefully, RFK junior will be the one to release that information. We need transparency. And even more more so, transparency is even more important when we, The US taxpayer, has funded the development of a drug that pretended to be a vaccine when it was a gene therapy as proven by Moderna when they first put it forward as a gene therapy. But if if it was a gene therapy, it couldn't have received an emergency use authorization.
• 13:25
  Although, there is a very good argument that, an emergency use authorization should not have been given because the rule state if there's any alternative treatment, well, ivermectin hydroxychloroquine when when when indicated if given at the right time and in the right dose, can prevent people from dying and hospitalization. I mean, the whole the whole narrative of safe and effective was just a sham. It was just a SIOP. I think doctor Malone is is very good discussing, you know, the origins of this and how we've all been we've all been psyoped with with this fear porn. I mean, if you look back, the only reason we ever take these sort of medicines is we're sort of coerced because we're gonna die.
• 14:22
  We're all gonna die. Look at the increasing numbers all the time. And yet very early on in COVID, it was very clear, that first the Delta, strain came out, then Omicron. And once Omicron came through, there was virtually nobody dying of COVID. It was just a bad bad cold or bad flu and cold.
• 14:43
  You know? What's the point of vaccinating against something like that when it's it's such a mild thing? Never mind the fact that increasing these vaccines cause the virus to mutate even more and produce ways of getting around the treatments we're giving. You know, that that's their nature is to evolve into a more effective they want to they want to preserve their life. They don't want to be killed off.
• 15:15
  And so if you're never endingly chasing COVID and certainly by, PCR testing when we know one of our latest reports is on the PCR tests and the over amplification that was done basically so that even if you walk past someone three weeks ago who'd who'd had spike protein sticking out somewhere, you'd be able to pick it up. I mean, it's it is tote it is totally crazy, but we continue to look into these things. We continue to write reports on the outcomes of things that are that that we originally reported on. And most recently, something was brought to my attention, which I hadn't thought of before. You know how how the mRNA gene therapies have been causing a lot of neurological side effects?
• 16:09
  One of the first ones was Bell's palsy, but we had Guillain Barre syndrome. And coming out of the European data, which, of course, is much bigger than, the Pfizer and the VAERS data, basically, was amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, ALS. You know? And we've heard of cases where it's been progressing very rapidly. And so someone said, well, you've got turbo cancers.
• 16:41
  Have you heard of turbo ALS? You know? Personally, I haven't because that's not that's not my field, but it is it is interesting that the narrative is beginning to change as people understand the sheer extent and number of severe adverse events that we've had as a result of this tax taxpayer funded, intervention, which probably wasn't needed. We just needed to protect the vulnerable during the early phases. And as things improved, we could have got through this without having any, silly injections.
• 17:22
  Never mind the fact that they've now sort of, adopted this as a platform going forwards. And so they can immediately make a vaccine within a hundred days and get it out to into people's arms and presumably make a lot of money out of it again. The the answer is just follow the money every single time.
• 17:44
  Seth Holehouse: And you you mentioned, the word psyop or psychological operation, which I would say absolutely is the case. And if if I was to simplify what you know, if someone said, what's what's a psyop? If I had to really simplify it, say, well, it's some sort of intentional operation to influence the psychology, the thinking of a single individual or group of people. And so with this vaccine, we saw, I would say, absolutely a psychological operation. I think that a good psychological operation is built on the knowledge of how humans work and and our inherent strengths and weaknesses.
• 18:23
  And I feel like what we saw with this was a lot of people doing what they thought was the right thing to do. And this is, you know, the the the the what is it? The road to hell is paved in good intentions. Right? So it's people that genuinely like, they they were taking advantage of their their kindness, especially with Americans.
• 18:40
  And and you probably in your home country are seeing it as well. I can say that, you know, Americans were were genuinely kind people as a whole. We we help our neighbor. If you see someone that's, you know, got a car accident, you stop, make sure they're okay. You know, these are just inherent things within our culture.
• 18:55
  And so we saw that being used as a weapon saying that if you don't get this vaccine, you're gonna kill your grandma or, you know, you're gonna cause this harm or, you know and so you had all these people that they really believed, well, this is the best thing to do. It was a selfless act. Now, of course, you had virtue signaling and you had, you know, some some negative behavior that, you know, emerges in you know, we are humans, so we're full of, you know, negative and positive. But as a whole, a lot of people, I think, were really doing what they thought was the right thing to do. And but now we're we're seeing the results of it.
• 19:31
  And so looking at the the Pfizer papers and what you discovered, what are some of the more alarming pieces of information? Because I know that you've written and you've you've published in medical journal journals. You've been, you know, involved in lots of peer reviewed research and everything, so you know how to look at these studies. Right? It's it's different than me looking at it and saying, well, it's a pretty big list of adverse events.
• 19:52
  That's probably not a good thing. Right? So you're looking at it from a very a much more educated position. So in your analysis, in the analysis of all the the, you know, thousands of volunteers that helped with this, what would you say were some of the things that were giant red flags in their clinical studies?
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Well, first first of all is the lack of published safety data. And the fact that they lied to us from the beginning that the injection would stay in a deltoid muscle and not go anywhere, and the evidence was very was there very, very early on that it affected multiple systems. And once people started getting neurological symptoms, especially from the brain as well, not just peripheral nerves, but what's called the central nervous system, which is the brain and spinal cord, we got very concerned. And, of course, there was myocarditis and sudden adult death. We've had a lot of lot of that.
• 20:56
  We've got evidence now from the Arm Burkhart autopsy series, so we're we've been able to confirm everything that, was actually present in the Pfizer documents, just hidden. And it's taken nearly two and a half years to get most of it, but it's like a a million piece puzzle. They gave us fragments all over the place. And now we have a more complete picture, but it isn't incomplete because of the sheer numbers of documents that have not been offered to us. The some of the more important things apart from the neurological are the myocarditis issues and fertility issues, particularly in females.
• 21:42
  Although, we do know that fertility has been decreasing in the Western world for some years, the the sheer drop off, is concerning to say the least. Never mind the effect on women's cycles and problems with menstruation. And Naomi talks about that continuously, quite rightly so. What's the very first thing that got her involved in the first place. So, you know, those those are just some of them.
• 22:15
  But because it's so widespread, I have serious concerns because of the way they're taking the development of mRNA vaccines and lipid nanoparticles. So most recently, I was in Japan in the International COVID Summit six assisting the Japanese doctors and testifying in parliament there about the dangers of the mRNA vaccines, about basically how our own regulators have not protected we, the American people, but they're certainly not protecting you. And your, regulators should at least be looking out for you, the Japanese people. But what has been evident, when we've been looking through, the committee data, is that all these regulatory agencies around the world relied on the FDA. So, you know, we have to hold the FDA to account for, their lack of transparency and the messaging and the fact that, basically, they poo pooed everything, that doctors were, bringing up the safety signals, that were very evident right at the beginning of the rollout after the Pfizer clinical trial.
• 23:43
  And they've not done that. And their prime job is to make sure that any intervention, medical intervention on a population is safe, or at least it's it's safe enough to be able to have a discussion with a patient about the risk versus benefits. But, of course, we weren't given any of that information. We've had to work it out for ourselves until, you know, transparency slightly comes through, with the documents, but we as I keep I'm gonna keep saying, we still don't have all the information that we really need. And then you've got then the other question I have is the role of the CDC because if you remember, it's Rochelle Walensky who was taking the lead on virtually everything.
• 24:31
  You know, the CDC was first and foremost. So if you if you think about it, the FDA was supposed to say that, this intervention was safe. Okay. They said it was safe. It wasn't.
• 24:45
  So they lied. The CDC, were doing the messaging, and one of the most important things was, the issue of myocarditis, which I first reported on in report 11 in this first book here, on the evidence of myocarditis in young people that they hadn't disclosed. They hadn't disclosed to physicians, or any other primary care, person who was looking after people. So doctors didn't even know to watch out for this. We were always told, oh, myocarditis is nothing.
• 25:21
  They'll soon get over it. But in fact, it's now being proven that myocarditis was an effect of the vaccine. I put vaccine in air quotes because I only it's only a vaccine because the, f t FDA and CDC changed their, definition of a vaccine, from something that prevents, an infection to something that produces antibodies towards an infection because it is a gene therapy. That's why you're using message modified messenger RNA to get into your cells to produce proteins that are abnormal. And it's those proteins, the spike protein, that is causing, all the side effects in the body.
• 26:10
  But in addition to that are the lipid nanoparticles, which themselves cause damage inside the body, in the area around the blood vessels. There's around the endothelium, the lining of the blood vessels. You get all sorts of inflammatory cells. And a lot of the reactions seem to be down to, a, that effect, but, b, the autoimmune effect. And it's like the body's responding to this spike protein and some of the postmortem series, the autopsy series of people who died suddenly from myocarditis after the vaccine show these white plaques on the inside of the heart.
• 26:53
  Now the heart is normally this sort of pinky, purply colored thick muscle that's contracting all the time. But white stuff is fibrous. Fibrous tissue, and as you you know, fibrous tissue doesn't contract, doesn't move. So it affects the the contraction of the heart. But also based on where it is, it actually affects the electrical pathways in the heart, which is one of the reasons why suddenly heart stopped working.
• 27:24
  And so you have people dropping, acutely dead on the field on an NFL game, and they have very, very prolonged resuscitation until they manage to survive long enough to get into hospital. And following all of, that from the Kansas City Chiefs, the it's there were mandates for automated defibrillators in in schools, on sports fields, and things like that. So they were very well aware of it. And only recently, have attorney Ed Berkovich managed to get a foyer from the CDC, which showed that Rochelle Walensky and the White House were freaking out in March to May of twenty twenty one, because of the findings of myocarditis in young people, who were supposed to be healthy, particularly after the second dose of the vaccine, and and this myocarditis wasn't going away. And at the same time, she came out saying, at the same time came out saying, oh, there's nothing wrong with this here.
• 28:47
  And there's no problem. Carry on getting vaccinated. You're you're absolutely fine. And one of the things that was found in this, FOIA was a presentation that the CDC and White House had made together to explain away, their talking points basically about myocarditis. And this was released under FOIA, but it was completely redacted.
• 29:14
  It's just it's just pages of black. That was one of the techniques that Pfizer used originally. Pfizer Pfizer basically redacted a lot of the information, but then they also redacted in white against a white background. So you couldn't tell there had been redactions. That was a very clever way of of doing it.
• 29:37
  So very recently, Ron Johnson has written this letter to the CDC demanding unredaction of this sort of information so that we can find out more and get proper transparency because all we're asking for is to know the facts. I mean, we can leave you to make up your own mind, but the people need to know the facts. And and, yes, I'm I I'm this this isn't my homeland, by the way. I was born here, and I'm living here, but I'm an American. I'm an American taxpayer.
• 30:11
  My money, my taxes have gone to pay for this thing and supporting the the CDC and the FDA, and I want them to do their job properly as a doctor. And I've I've appeared, interestingly, before the FDA at Silver Springs, when I was, involved with an American company in developing a device to detect breast cancer early. And the amount of paperwork and testing that we had to go through just to actually do a clinical trial was absolutely astonishing. But, I mean, bureaucracy plus plus plus, you know, is like on bureaucracy on steroids. And then you look at what happened with the FDA and these this mRNA lipid nanoparticle platform.
• 31:02
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• 32:05
  Speaker 2: And they just waived it through. Where was the safety testing? Oh, they didn't really look at that. It was done in a few mice and then phase one studies in 20 people here and 20 people there in Germany. And by using overseas companies and testing overseas, I think they thought they were going to get away with not having to release that data.
• 32:34
  But even even so, it's not what I've experienced from the FDA in the past. So I know that the FDA could and could go back to what it used to do was to protect patients. And then you ask yourself, well, what about the CDC? What they're the they're the people who basically decide on policy for communicable diseases. That's their their main role.
• 33:01
  But they're the sort of the spokesperson for all of these things. And the question is, do they need to survive? Do we need to knock everything down, rebuild, think it through how best to protect patients, how best to recommend, what we give to our children, say, for example, in this vaccine schedule? If we said that everything that was in the vaccine schedule had to have evidence of a double blind clinical trial, what's gonna happen? Children will not have any vaccines given to them.
• 33:44
  So we've we've really got to look, back hard, at the safety aspects of what we're doing, especially to our children. Because when you think about how many vaccines get given to them as they're growing up, you know, what what are their immune systems like? What about the rise of autism that we've seen since the introduction of all of these vaccines? And now there's evidence, in plain sight. It was originally thought to be a conspiracy theory done by these doctors who were always pushing misinformation.
• 34:21
  But this is the basis of science. Science always questions. You you have a hypothesis. You question that hypothesis. You try and prove that hypothesis wrong.
• 34:33
  If you can't, well, that is the current facts. But then someone else might come along, do another experiment, and show, actually, we're gonna have to change that, that, knowledge. It needs to be updated, and that's what science does. But science has to be there from the beginning, which, basically, it hasn't been for the childhood vaccinations schedule. I I grew up being trust trusting of those in authority, the regulators who told us everything was safe.
• 35:07
  Now I've seen the evidence, I'm extremely concerned. And I have to be honest, As a doctor of over four decades, doing clinical trials for four decades, and knowing what we had to do to protect patients as we were doing these trials, how to provide with them with proper informed consent so they could make their own decision. Because don't forget, I'm working in cancer, and a lot of the chemotherapies, are basically poisons, cause serious serious side effects. And so you have to balance that with what is the patient's outcome? What do they expect to get from this?
• 35:53
  So, you know, you when you do a informed consent for a clinical trial, you have to sit down with the patient for quite a long time. It's not it's not a quick simple thing. And what was happening to us during COVID when the vaccines were rolled out, we were turning up in our cars to parking lots. A, we were getting, the the the guys and gals who were serving in McDonald's came and did some ex extra cash. They they came and stuck plastic things up our our noses, swabbed us real hard, causes real problems there, and then sticked us with with this stuff.
• 36:32
  And it's no it's no wonder there weren't there should have been more serious adverse events, basically, from from the way it was actually introduced. But I I had mine my vaccines because I had to take them to travel between continents just to see my family during COVID, which was not fun in the slightest. And I had a serious adverse event when I had the booster, and I reported it to my primary care. And then on follow-up, he said, well, you're due for your flu vaccine and your COVID booster. And I said, I beg your pardon?
• 37:12
  Did you report my, severe serious adverse event in the VAERS system after I last saw you? What's VAERS? I beg your pardon. The vaccine adverse event reporting system, is it no wonder that only one percent of serious adverse events actually get reported in VAERS? And, and, of course, the flu vaccine, they were beginning to introduce this new mRNA, flu vaccine, which, the university hospital where I was in, was was using.
• 37:48
  So they were trying to give me two extra mRNA shots, and I said, oh oh my oh my goodness. No. I walked out of there. I said, I'm not taking another one of those shots until you could prove to me that it's safe. Never mind effective.
• 38:04
  I want to know if it's safe first before you do anything to me. And so I was given one of these new ICD codes for someone who's not compliant with vaccines. All I'm doing I'm just I'm just asking questions as a doctor. I want to know if something is safe. And everyone in America should be asking, is this their doctors, how do you know this is safe?
• 38:31
  Show me that it's safe. Don't don't show me a study of eight mice, and that's all it was in. Oh, and what happened to those mice? Oh, they all sort of shriveled up, had has seizures, and died. Wait a minute.
• 38:46
  You you want to give that to me? What why would you do that? We're not asking the questions, number one. Number two, you could ask the, doctor if they've looked at the insert in the vaccine vials, in the boxes, and no no one's actually looked at them. So you have to say, well, how can you give me informed consent if you have no idea, what it says on the insert?
• 39:14
  And that's in the rest of the world, not The US, because in The US, those insert sheets are still blank. We're still under an EUA product, which I hope will be on June January. The emergency orders will be lifted, and we will have to, basically, the FDA will not be allowed to use the BNT one six two b two, which is what we've all been given, which has caused all these serious adverse events. Now don't think for one minute that Moderna weren't having the same problems. They used a bigger dose.
• 39:51
  And this new replicon uses a smaller dose, but it self replicates. It still causes problems. It's still lipid nanoparticles, etcetera. So that that is crazy.
• 40:03
  Seth Holehouse: It's crazy just let's say, even just looking at objectively and whether, you know, say someone got the vaccine or they've had they they're on their sixth booster, it doesn't really matter. Just to look at it objectively and say, okay. I mean, it makes sense that if they're giving us this new form of treatment, you know, gene therapy treatment that is an mRNA, you know, delivery, you know, system that that's like, okay. That seems different than the the the flu, you know, flu medicine I was taking as a kid or the, you know, whatever, you know, vaccines I got as a kid. You know, people weren't nearly as aware as as they are now.
• 40:41
  But then if if you even if you're completely pro vaccine and you're frightened of COVID and and all that is is you're checking all those boxes, to that person, it's like, I does it not raise any red flags that a, you know, Pfizer was trying to hide all of their studies, all of their clinical trials for seventy five years. Okay? There's red flag number one. And then two, once they're forced to release that via FOIA, you get you get the documents, and they're mostly redacted. Black lines, white lines, it's it's disappeared.
• 41:15
  I mean, to me, it's just like, woah. There's something wrong here. Like, that's not how things should work. Right? You know, science is is should be a question of you you know, as you've mentioned, you have a hypothesis, you test it, you form some sort of idea of, okay, this is why it's happened.
• 41:31
  You let your peers review it, let them walk through it, and they're say they're gonna say, actually, I think you're wrong here because there's a study here, and it's like, oh, okay. It's just it's just refinement. But I think that what we saw is basically in a lot of ways that Fauci became science. And so what Fauci said was the word of, you know, the religion of science. It's like, don't question.
• 41:51
  Right? It's like, hey. It's it's in it's in the Bible. Don't question it. It's the word of God.
• 41:55
  That's the the same principles were applied to science, basically. This is science. Even though those principles were changing, you know, month by month and masks are bad, they're good, they're bad, they're good, and it it's just crazy that still so many people that would spend probably three hours researching on Amazon what what what kind of speakers they wanna get for their their home surround sound system, reading all the reviews and everything, will just go through a drive through, pull up their sleeve, and just get whatever medication. Right? And I'm not calling those people stupid or ignorant.
• 42:27
  It is just because that's part of the psychological operation that we've been kinda coerced into a place where you just trust the guy in the in the white suit. Right? It's it's the Milgram experiment experiment, right, where you just kinda just whatever the guy with the clipboard and the the medical coat says, you just you do it. And so looking at like, there's one thing, obviously, of this is be this experimental medication, which we now know had major problems and side effects within the own trials. That's one thing if if that's been being put into you.
• 43:00
  But with the Replicon where it's and I wanna have you explain, you know, the the real dangers of what the Replicon is, but as I understand it, you know, your your wife may go get the replicon vaccine thinking she's doing the right thing, but all of a sudden, you're now receiving it because it's reproducing, and it's it's spitting off things. And and it's it's almost like something that could if there was these, you know, really serious side effects of it, that could become something worse than any any kind of pandemic the human race has ever seen because it it's a it's it's, you know, it's one thing if you get the vaccine and and and you have a heart, you know, problem and maybe you die, but that's your own person's solo individual path. But to get that and have it spread to the other people and they spread to other people, I mean, it's frightening. So can you I know you were in Japan and being and you spoke in trying to, you know, expose this the reality of this. So with the replicon, what about in in layman terms, why is the replicon vaccine even more concerning than the first many rounds of COVID vaccines and boosters that were rolled out?
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's a it's a good question because there are there are different aspects to it because they tried to improve things by reducing the dose of mRNA and lipid nanoparticle without addressing the fact that lipid nanoparticles on their own should not be used for human use or even veterinary use. That's still in the data sheets, and we don't know for sure about the safety. There there are serious consequences of the lipid nanoparticles on their own, never mind the mRNA, because of the fact it goes everywhere, because of the fact that 50% of the lipid nanoparticles are made up of polyethylene glycol, which is otherwise known as antifreeze, and cannot easily be, removed by the body, and that can build up in your body over time if you're having multiple injections. Okay.
• 45:11
  So this Arcturus Therapeutics. Who are they? What did they do? Back in the day of the, early COVID shots, they were the company. They were based in Canada, and they did what's called the fill and finish of lipid nanoparticles.
• 45:30
  So Pfizer produced and BioNTech produced the mRNA, and they shipped it to Arcturus Therapeutics. And then they wrapped wrapped them in these lipid nanoparticles and was supposed to clean everything up put them into vials ready for reconstitution and injection into people.
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• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Okay. Fast forward to 02/2024. Arcturus Therapeutics are now, based in San Jose, California, and they're now producing this, replicon mRNA, otherwise known as Costave in Japan, who and the pharmaceutical company over there that are doing it is something called Mika Psycho. And, they are saying that this is much better than the original mRNA vaccines because they use a much lower dose, of, mRNA and lipid nanoparticle. And the advantage is that it gets into the body and it starts replicating.
• 48:51
  They don't need that's why they don't need to give very much. But we don't know how long the this self replication continues for because the original mRNA got into your body, got into the cells, into the nucleus, incorporated itself into your DNA, and those cells started producing this protein called the spike protein, which caused antibodies to develop. And it's the spike protein, as we know, as we've talked about, causes all these problems. So now it's doing more of it, and we don't know how long it's gonna go on for. But there are other aspects to this replicon, in particular, is the fact that the mRNA actually comes from, an alphavirus, an equine, encephalitis alphavirus.
• 49:47
  This is something that's been used, for some years now for vaccine development, but, basically, it's you know, encephalitis is not nice. It's swelling of the brain, and it's debilitating, but it doesn't kill, which is why it's been used in the biodefense industry as something that they could use in theory, to debilitate, the opposition army and therefore invade, pretty seamlessly. And so, I mean, you've you've got the concerns there with BARDA and, the Department of Defense involvement in in the development of the these sort of things. The self amplifying mRNA was originally looked at for by BioNTech and Pfizer for use on us originally. But Albert Baller ruled it out when he found out about self amplifying mRNA.
• 50:49
  To be fair on him, he said, no. That is not going to be one of the candidates we're going to use. And they chose the the b two, which is why it's called b BNT BioNTech one six two variant b two. That's the the candidate shots that were given to all of us. So so so this is being basically a broken apart alpha virus.
• 51:20
  And this alpha virus in the past has been is notorious for its effects on causing what's called neurotoxicity, damage the brain, basically. So there are there are a lot of issues about it from a basic science point of view that need to be answered before, again, before one should be doing clinical trials. So Optura Therapeutics, did their first clinical trial. They did it in Vietnam, a long way from the shores of The United States. Why did they do it there?
• 51:55
  A compliant population, cheap and and cheerful, easy to do. And if there was any blowback, any any spread around the population, it wasn't going to affect us in The USA. Then they decided to do a clinical trial in Japan, which is what sparked this the tests in in the nation of Japan. And they compared it with, Pfizer and Moderna, and they showed that it produced antibodies in the same way that Pfizer and Moderna shots do. Unsurprisingly, if you use mRNA to produce spike protein, it's going to produce antibodies.
• 52:35
  Yes. So what? But they just decide to roll it out as nationally in Japan, which was very, very concerning because it came through the regulators in Japan. And there's been a little bit of pushback from the parliamentarians in Japan, which is why we were arming them with information in the house of representatives there in Tokyo. But they they we believe they did it because the Japanese people are very compliant population.
• 53:08
  It's similar to the Israeli population when they rolled out the original BMT vaccines for the clinical trials because people tend to do as they're told. The remarkable thing that we found when we were in Japan and we spoke at a rally of of between 30,000, 50 thousand people who are protesting of all ages. It's not just old older people, but young people as well. People of all ages came out to say no to the replicon, which is which is amazing because, you know, we know Japan as being very compliant, very respectful of authority. And I think they thought they were gonna get away with it, by trying it out in the nation of Japan.
• 53:59
  And only, apparently, 19% of people have, taken up their invitations to have this replicon booster jab. Now the the dangers here are we don't know the effect of shedding with this. We know that there is, this the naked mRNA on its own can get shed from the nose from these these alpha viruses. And that's called transfection from one person to another. So if you're in close proximity to someone, you could be walking by someone in the supermarket or or even on public transport, and you could easily pick this up.
• 54:40
  But, also, it's called a zoonotic. That means it can get transmitted to animals, so your pets, your dogs, your cats. And, of course, they're always in close contact with you, always trying to lick your face. And and and and so it's it's a very easy way for someone to give, an injection to one person. And just like greenfly growing in the garden, it's an exponential growth.
• 55:09
  It very rapidly spreads through the population. And if you read the documentation, this is one of the the research ways they're looking to give vaccines in the future is aerosolized so that you just give it in one area, and then it'll naturally spread through the population. So we won't need a crisis and fear pawn to get us to take it. They'll just spread around, and we will just have these genes incorporated into us. It's like, there is no consent here, guys.
• 55:46
  We've we've not said yes. You're just going to give this to the population. I mean, that's effectively what they've done with the the Pfizer jabs and Moderna jabs. AstraZeneca, which, of course, was pulled because of all their clots. Don't I'm I'm at a loss for words because, you know, we've had so many people contacting us who've who've been suffering as a result of their vaccine injuries.
• 56:14
  And and and people are still researching the best ways of treating this, you know, FLCCC, the Solenco protocol, the wellness company. There are so many people who are looking to try and and tone down the effects of the spike protein, which are lasting much longer than they told us it was going to last. And there it's affecting some people more than others, and we need to do research in into all of that. And so I'm I'm really hopeful if Robert f Kennedy gets in into HHS and we get good doctors in in the FDA and CDC. If the Freedom doctors are involved, we might get clinical trials going that actually get real answers that we can trust.
• 57:04
  Because at the moment, the population don't trust anybody anymore. They don't trust politicians. They don't trust the doctors. I mean, the the number of people who have, dropped their annual physical. Oops.
• 57:18
  I'm not going why would I go to my doctor? I mean, I was disgusted after my last, visit. I was surprised. You know? University hospital.
• 57:26
  Come on, guys. You should know. You should be up to date with things. And the fact they didn't know about theirs and hadn't recorded my information, but they recorded that I was someone who didn't want to take a vaccine. You know, I was given an ICD code.
• 57:47
  That tells you that I'm in the system as a rogue it would be a rogue employee, if you like, if I was employed. Well, I think, that will be the foot that person will be the first one for the axe if we need to make, redundancies here if the economy goes down. It's like they're just trying to find excuses to label us. And even though we're just asking questions, we just want to know the truth. And that's what you do all the time.
• 58:17
  You're asking questions, and you have experts on all the time who are trying to give the American people the answers they need to be able to ask the questions themselves. And I think if more people ask more questions, I think we'll all be a we'll be a happier country.
• 58:36
  Seth Holehouse: I couldn't agree more. And and I think, actually, I I've been reflecting a lot about this exact thing, especially now that, you know, we're seeing a lot of Trump's cabinet picks, and there's, you know, a lot of people saying, oh, this person's good. This person's terrible. There's you can see that there's there's still a lot of swamps surrounding, you know, what he's trying to do. And you could say that it's easy to get discouraged or think, oh, gosh.
• 59:04
  Is this gonna be another thing? And you're hoping you're hoping that RFKs are new something or, you know, whatnot. But what I've come to lately is that, ultimately, it's it the power is still in the hands of the people. And even if there's another, you know, layer of corruption and swap trying to to stop anything from happening at the the federal level in America, the key is enough people knowing, enough people standing up for this. Because whether it was the twenty twenty election or the rollout of the original, you know, COVID vaccines, because there was such a control on the narrative and there's such a con you know, control on the public discourse about this, a lot of people just didn't know.
• 59:48
  And so there wasn't pushback. There wasn't enough questioning. But since then, we've seen this massive movement towards awakening and people questioning and saying and actually just thinking for themselves. Right? Say, okay.
• 1:00:01
  What's it mean to wake up? Well, so you you you regain control of your body that which was inanimate. Right? And and just kind of laying there. So it's people, I think, waking up and saying, woah.
• 1:00:12
  Like, I'm gonna start thinking independently. I'm gonna start researching in a way that's not just going to Google and typing in, is the vaccine safe? And, okay, of course, here's 10 pages of reasons why it is, and, you know, your content or anything else is buried so nobody can find it. So that does give me hope. It gives me hope.
• 1:00:30
  It's
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: not buried. It's banned.
• 1:00:32
  Seth Holehouse: It's yeah. It it's it disappeared. Right? It's it's the equivalent of having a black bag, put it over its head and thrown into the back of a van and never seeing it again. And so We
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: want we need we need transparency because they've found shredders outs parked outside the DOJ. I'm sure the FDA is gonna be the same. They've tried to scrub they've tried to scrub a lot of the committee meetings where they were discussing, the approvals for the vaccines, trying to scrub them off the Internet. But, thankfully, the Internet is forever. So it's it's, again, it's down to I think you're right.
• 1:01:10
  Everything is down to we, the people. Those first three words of the constitution are so important. You know? It's down to us.
• 1:01:19
  Seth Holehouse: They they really are. So as we're gosh. An hour went by so quickly. As we're we're wrapping up, what what what are your final thoughts you wanna impart before we sign off?
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: I think question everything is the thing is the advice I give to everybody these days. When I had an appointment with one of my physicians in The before I relocated from Florida over to The United Kingdom to be with my family as I get older, One of the things she said is what what what should I how am I how would I best progress? How would I make a name for myself? And I said, well, all you need to do is to ask the questions, and do not be afraid of asking the difficult questions. Those are the ones doctor Fauci does not want you to know.
• 1:02:15
  Not want you to ask. So keep asking questions, and I think that's right for everybody. You know, the more informed you are, the better.
• 1:02:25
  Seth Holehouse: I certainly agree, which is why I'm doing what I'm doing. Right? So before we sign off, this is the this is the book that is now available. So it's just the Pfizer papers. You can get it.
• 1:02:38
  Amazon still has it. There's other locations as well, but this is it. So I I encourage people to take a look at this to, you know, maybe it's it's it's not the best Christmas gift, but it is, you know, for people that are vaguely interested or they're researching, it is a very good Christmas gift. It's important because it's it's a gift of knowledge, and it's it's it's unbiased. That's the thing is that it's not, you know, you're it's not some hit piece that's written, you know, with with speculation.
• 1:03:06
  I mean, it's very real researched information that even someone that has been maybe mocking, oh, you're some conspiracy theorist for thinking this would you know, get this and show them. Highlight some of the things. Like, here's a list of adverse events that you weren't told about. I mean, there's a lot of information out there. So, yeah, Chris, it's a pleasure.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: Can I just say one more one more The the about the book is some people complain that it's it's very dense? Well, it is a book of evidence, but if you'd like quick overview is to look for the micro reports that are in there. They're colored mainly green, and we've done micro reports on all the different systems. So for example, you know someone who's had Bell's palsy you know someone who's had myocarditis, go and look in their book. Go and look at it's a it's just usually just one or two pages of all the information about that specific serious adverse event, you will then be fully armed.
• 1:04:07
  And they're very similar, surprisingly, all the way through every system. It was three three to one females to males, number one. Number two, nearly fifty percent occurred within the first forty eight hours of receiving the vaccine. So causation is not correlation, But at the end of the day, the evidence is there. It's in the book.
• 1:04:35
  Please read it. Please share. And if you educate yourself and educate others, I think it'll take us a long way.
• 1:04:43
  Seth Holehouse: I couldn't agree more. Well, Chris, it was a pleasure speaking with you. Thank you for doing what you're doing, and I encourage folks to to check out the book and, keep supporting and spreading this information. So thank you again. Take care, and God bless.
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