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Clay Matthews Talks Break Up With Packers, USC Dynasty, & His Family’s NFL Legacy With Brother Kyle · Bussin' With The Boys

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  Speaker 4: three eleven. Quick note with got a little NFL and
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  Speaker 4: Matthews interview. Great interview. These guys are incredible. You hear
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  Speaker 2: for more award details. Fellas, it's been a long week.
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  Speaker 2: It's been a long seven days. The last time a
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  Speaker 2: Football Playoffs, Surviving Barstool and also side note, I hope
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  Speaker 2: everybody out in LA that listen to our show. I
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  Speaker 2: know we got some California fans. I hope everybody's doing
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  Speaker 2: well safe. Like those fires just seem I mean, it's brutal.
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  Speaker 2: What's going on out there.
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  Speaker 4: It's crazy. What's going on. It's crazy. Also seeing videos
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  Speaker 4: of people adding to the fire in certain parts on Twitter,
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  Speaker 4: which is just nuts, man.
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  Speaker 2: People adding to the fire.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's videos of people actually going around. I think
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  Speaker 4: there's one specific one of people opening their trunk in
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  Speaker 4: the middle of the highway, pulling out cans of gasoline
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  Speaker 4: and throwing it into the bush. So David Spade came out,
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  Speaker 4: had a selfie video saying, the police found a guy,
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  Speaker 4: let him go, who's starting fires? And he's like, if
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  Speaker 4: you find anybody in the police, arrest them. I'll give
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  Speaker 4: you five thousand dollars. So David Spate said, So, it's
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  Speaker 4: like a something going on out there.
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  Speaker 2: My god, something going on in.
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  Speaker 4: The City of Angels right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I hope everybody's keeping their head.
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  Speaker 4: Hope everyone's safe. Hope everyone's if we had a this weekend,
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  Speaker 4: I was in Vegas and my neighbor was running from
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  Speaker 4: the fires. I don't know if you guys heard of him.
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  Speaker 4: Adam Sandler heard of him. He was out there, yea,
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  Speaker 4: you meet him? Yeah? I ended up meeting him.
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  Speaker 2: How to go, just on.
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  Speaker 4: The elevator walking in.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, good morning.
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  Speaker 4: How are you got out of there?
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  Speaker 2: He was, dude, that was it.
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  Speaker 4: He was running from fires. He was with his wife
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  Speaker 4: and his two kids. They were waiting. They didn't seem
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  Speaker 4: like they want to be bothered.
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  Speaker 2: But you didn't ask if you wanted to be on
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  Speaker 2: busting with the boys.
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  Speaker 4: Not yet, ye And I thought about I thought about
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  Speaker 4: him with the oh you did something with Travis. I
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  Speaker 4: know Travis, we have a show called I thought about
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  Speaker 4: doing the whole thing. I had a whole speech in
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  Speaker 4: my head. Obviously, I was texting you about it. I
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  Speaker 4: haven't thought about writing that note. But then things got
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  Speaker 4: out of him. But uh yeah. I saw him at
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  Speaker 4: the elevator multiple times, walk behind him. Actually, the first
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  Speaker 4: time I saw him, I was walking behind him in
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  Speaker 4: the hallway, him and his daughter, and I was kind
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  Speaker 4: of like five paces behind him, but they didn't know
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  Speaker 4: I was there. So I let like a out so
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  Speaker 4: they knew. Scared the shit out of his daughter, and
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  Speaker 4: it was just like right in there. I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: I got to get out of here, narrow hallway. Had
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  Speaker 4: to booge you way too big. You're way too big,
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  Speaker 4: way too big. Yeah, command just like walk like hunched
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  Speaker 4: over walking towards her. It was too much. It was
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  Speaker 4: too much.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 2: Taylor was telling me how he was in like the
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  Speaker 2: room next to him. I was like, you should slip
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  Speaker 2: a note like under his door.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, bro, I'm gonna do it for sure,
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  Speaker 4: Gonna do that for sure. And then I was in
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  Speaker 4: the fight of my life for forty eight hours straight.
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  Speaker 4: I kind of I kind of forgot about it a
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  Speaker 4: little bit. But guy is dressed exactly like you see
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  Speaker 4: him all the time.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah he is.
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  Speaker 4: You see, I saw him three times. His outfit never changed,
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  Speaker 4: Like he is a homie, you can just tell. And
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  Speaker 4: the boys at Red Rock were telling me, They're like,
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  Speaker 4: uh yeah. The only thing I was like, is he
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  Speaker 4: like a high maintenance cauves. Again, He's like, no, he's
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  Speaker 4: a high minutes at all. The only thing he wanted
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  Speaker 4: was a lifetime fitness passed for a day to he'll
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  Speaker 4: play pick up basketball.
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  Speaker 2: So they thought it just all time, you know, sanely
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  Speaker 2: to the way he dresses like he's peak, his laundry
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  Speaker 2: pop by his bed and he just gets up the
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  Speaker 2: morning question.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's the guy that like puts his clothes down
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  Speaker 4: and then like puts his feet right in. As he's
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  Speaker 4: getting off the bed, he just pulls the same shorts up.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, dude, highlight, highlight. It was awesome. It was
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  Speaker 4: a good little deal. But yeah, shouts to people fighting
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  Speaker 4: the fires. That's tough, man.
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  Speaker 2: Where should we start first? Should we go NFL recap?
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  Speaker 2: Should we go college football? Should we go.
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  Speaker 4: So let's go NFL. It's the most recent thing in
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  Speaker 4: my brain right now.
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  Speaker 2: The Pats like that, are we talking playing let's go there?
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  Speaker 4: Because that is exact I mean, that's exactly what should
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  Speaker 4: have happened. Yeah, exactly what should have happened. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: every Titans fan, obviously being in Nashville, every Titans fan,
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  Speaker 4: Amy Adams, Trunk, everybody who is associated with the Titans
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  Speaker 4: right now punching the air. They're fucking pissed off at
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  Speaker 4: themselves because they messed up bad love Callahan. His story
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  Speaker 4: is still unwritten. We don't know the whole entire thing.
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  Speaker 4: How that that final you know, period happens. However, a
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  Speaker 4: guy like Rabel, it's exactly what the Pats need. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's exactly what the path.
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  Speaker 2: To exactly for Rabel, Like, that's just the perfect storm.
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  Speaker 2: You're going back to a spot to where you had
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  Speaker 2: a fourteen year career. Obviously you played for a good
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  Speaker 2: amount in New England. You got what three Super Bowls,
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  Speaker 2: Patriots Hall of Fame, Yeah, Patriots Hall of Fame. You've
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  Speaker 2: caught touchdown passes, like, you know the culture, you know
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  Speaker 2: the leadership there. You're going into an environment You're going
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  Speaker 2: into a situation that's honestly perfect for him. You've got
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  Speaker 2: a good young quarterback in Drake May. You got a
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  Speaker 2: lot of uh, you got a lot of cap space.
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  Speaker 2: You know. The first move too, you got to get
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  Speaker 2: John Striker away from the Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 4: I already texted Stretch. I say, congrats and your moved
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  Speaker 4: to New England. Yeah, he knows what are you talking about?
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  Speaker 2: You know, yeah, you know you're getting ready for the Viking.
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  Speaker 4: But you're right and but yeah, as always, this is
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  Speaker 4: Monday as you're watching the show where it's Tuesday. Was
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  Speaker 4: Thursday Friday. The Vikings and the Rams have not played yet.
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  Speaker 4: We should actually go over that game because I think
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  Speaker 4: you took the Vikings in locker room, right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but we don't know. By the time this comes
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  Speaker 2: out of the game, I know.
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  Speaker 4: I'd like to publicly change my opinion, though. I think
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  Speaker 4: the Rams are gonna win that game. I think the
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  Speaker 4: Rams I'm taking. I'm taking a veteran coach that's had
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  Speaker 4: many times in the playoffs. I'm taking him and a
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  Speaker 4: playoff stafford. Yeah, and the playoff stafford.
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  Speaker 5: I like that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he shows up. I know that his last three
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  Speaker 2: times getting on the grass. He's averaged like one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and fifty yards and throwing for only one or two
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  Speaker 2: touchdowns total to last three games.
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  Speaker 4: Put the script this time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and you know if the Rams win, he's
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  Speaker 2: going back. You get to see Detroit's Stafford golf. You
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  Speaker 2: can see that whole thing. That would beat to see that.
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  Speaker 4: God. People saying fuck you. I I can't believe the
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  Speaker 4: line sans did that just tell them go fuck himself
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  Speaker 4: chanting fuck Stafford. Yeah, that is just crazy to me.
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  Speaker 4: But I love it. I absolutely love it. But yeh,
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  Speaker 4: did Raves be on the Pats? Unbelievable. With good news
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  Speaker 4: always comes a little bit of bad news. It seems
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  Speaker 4: like Steelers Twitter is over the Mike Tomlin experience, which
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  Speaker 4: is coming just strictly from my perspective. If you're a
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  Speaker 4: team like the Steelers who has had multiple Super Bowls,
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  Speaker 4: you're a storied, historied franchise, and you have a coach
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  Speaker 4: that gets you in the playoffs, you have to hear
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  Speaker 4: whether you go far, whether you don't go you kind
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  Speaker 4: of just like go that first game and come out.
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  Speaker 4: It's kind of like Tyreek Hill saying, this is my
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  Speaker 4: first time I haven't made the playoffs, I'm out of here.
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  Speaker 4: Like you you just sometimes as a fan you get
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  Speaker 4: so conditioned and callous to the success you've had that's
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  Speaker 4: no longer good enough. Let me tell you, as a
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  Speaker 4: person who played for a franchise that was not always
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  Speaker 4: a guarantee to make the playoffs all the time. Stay
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  Speaker 4: as long as you can understand that this man is
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  Speaker 4: the man for the job. Also us in the playoffs
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  Speaker 4: every single year. If you are picking in that eighteen
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  Speaker 4: to twenty four range every single year, like it's gonna
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  Speaker 4: be tough to get your quarterback, it's gonna get tough
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  Speaker 4: to get those premier blue chip players because a lot
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  Speaker 4: of people think like just because you're picked in the
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  Speaker 4: first round means like that doesn't mean it means you're
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  Speaker 4: like a premium guy. When reality, it's like, how good
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  Speaker 4: is the draft? Who's going before? What are your needs?
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  Speaker 4: Your necessities? When you're picking up in those late teens,
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  Speaker 4: early twenties, it's fucking hard to keep keep establishing you
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  Speaker 4: know a lot of talent on your team while everybody
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  Speaker 4: doesn't catch up. So I'm personally a fan of tomans
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  Speaker 4: Dain if he is fired, so many needs to throw
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  Speaker 4: the bag at him immediately.
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  Speaker 2: But it should be a thing too, Like if you
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  Speaker 2: look at the last what is eight years, he's been
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  Speaker 2: one and done in the playoffs, doesn't just pick just
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  Speaker 2: I guess picking coach like verybel Let's just say he's
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  Speaker 2: on the Titans. Say use the first eight years little
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  Speaker 2: bit we were one and done every year. Fans would
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  Speaker 2: be pretty upset about it. Well, Like and again, Tomlin
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  Speaker 2: is a big culture guy, one of the best culture
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  Speaker 2: guys in the business. He's had his his histories with
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  Speaker 2: like the A B's.
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  Speaker 5: Of the world.
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  Speaker 2: You've had, You've had to You've had to balance a
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  Speaker 2: lot of different personalities in that locker room. And too,
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  Speaker 2: it's such like over time, even though he's a really
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  Speaker 2: good culture guy, it's the same kind of culture stuff
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  Speaker 2: over and over. Like that could kind of slow down
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  Speaker 2: at some point.
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  Speaker 4: You want to do it, you want it fresh.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they do have like the lowest paid offense in
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  Speaker 2: the league. They got all their money tied up defensively.
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  Speaker 2: If you're looking at from a zoomed out views, is like,
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  Speaker 2: do you kind of blow up a little bit on
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  Speaker 2: defense and try and get some cap space and restructure
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  Speaker 2: a little bit, move some pieces around. Because as good
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  Speaker 2: as Cam Hayward is, he's been there forever. He's getting
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  Speaker 2: longer in the two thirteen years now. TJ Widde is
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  Speaker 2: obviously a stud of defensive any type of guy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he's not going anywhere. But you got to almost look
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  Speaker 2: at all of these different options to kind of blow
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  Speaker 2: it up a little bit. If you're gonna stick with Tomlin.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and going off of you know, the example you
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  Speaker 4: just gave of you if Mike Rabel is at the
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  Speaker 4: Titans for eight years.
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  Speaker 2: Imagine any coach who gets their job in their first
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  Speaker 2: eight years. First year they go to the playoffs. Everybody's
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  Speaker 2: riding high. But every year they get to the playoffs.
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  Speaker 4: In this but that's not the example we're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: They got the ten wins and then lost the final
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  Speaker 2: four or five games.
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  Speaker 4: I understand, However, you're talking about a sample size of
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  Speaker 4: eight years from Tomlin. He's been there forever. He won
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  Speaker 4: a Super Bowl in two thousand and eight with the Steelers,
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  Speaker 4: like he's had more of it. I'm just saying, if
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  Speaker 4: you look at he said, hey, I'm gonna give you
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  Speaker 4: a head coach, you' gonna make the playoffs every single year,
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  Speaker 4: but you're gonna be out of the playoffs after the
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  Speaker 4: first round every single year for eight years. You probably say, no,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not going to sign up for that. But if
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  Speaker 4: you had a little more context to you know, Le'Veon
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  Speaker 4: bell Ab kind of you're saying the Pouncy Brothers, all
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  Speaker 4: these and the poundcer Bulls. You say pouncy because they're
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  Speaker 4: such a prolific group of individuals, when really only one
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  Speaker 4: pouncy brother played there. Marky's pouncy is one of the
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  Speaker 4: greatest leaders from my understanding that anyone's ever seen, Like
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  Speaker 4: he is one of those guys that are just all
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  Speaker 4: fucking time, like a true locker room guy, keeps everybody
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  Speaker 4: in check, but like still very unique, loud, boisterous like
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  Speaker 4: individual we're free hernandez hats when all that stuff was
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  Speaker 4: going on, like they are in the public, and we'll
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  Speaker 4: do some controversial things if you're able to navigate that.
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  Speaker 4: Many personalities have sustainable success and being somewhere for so long.
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  Speaker 4: For me, it's very difficult to say, okay, go ahead
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  Speaker 4: and walk away from that because the grass is not
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  Speaker 4: always greener on the other side. You don't know how
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  Speaker 4: good you're gonna have it. I feel like the Titans
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  Speaker 4: are feeling that a little bit right now. Like I said,
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  Speaker 4: that story is still unwritten. But you just once you
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  Speaker 4: start getting away from stuff. And then also you look
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  Speaker 4: at the Patriots. We're very excited for Rabel, but if
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  Speaker 4: Rabel doesn't have success, you're not looking at like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: maybe we should have stayed with Belichick. Let him stay
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  Speaker 4: for as long as you want it. So it's it's
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  Speaker 4: it's scarier to get away from Tomlin. It's safer to
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  Speaker 4: stay because from the outside our perspective looking in on
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  Speaker 4: the Steelers. That's just my take on it.
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  Speaker 6: I think that George Pickens, as I was thinking about
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  Speaker 6: it more as crazy as his press conference sounded, that
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  Speaker 6: answer is almost I feel like Steeler's nation of like,
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  Speaker 6: how do you feel like the year went? We progressed,
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  Speaker 6: it was good, I got better. Are you optimistic?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 6: I had a decent year, And I feel like that's
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  Speaker 6: how the fans kind of feel. Yeah, does George Pickens
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  Speaker 6: know what optimistic means? That was the question on the internet.
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  Speaker 4: Is funny. He has got to be probably the number
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  Speaker 4: one character in the league right now.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, he's my favorite player.
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  Speaker 4: He's a fair player. He really is. But he just
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  Speaker 4: you'll just see a play going on and they will
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  Speaker 4: be in the corner of the screen of throwing somebody
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  Speaker 4: to the ground.
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  Speaker 2: Watching a game.
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  Speaker 4: Street rat type ship.
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  Speaker 2: They're gonna have to get on the ball pretty sooner.
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  Speaker 2: He's just gonna start giving up on routes.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, dude.
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  Speaker 2: And if you keep everybody together, you almost gotta you
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  Speaker 2: gotta go try and find another quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: Run, you gotta find a quarterback. You got Fields, Yeah, no,
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  Speaker 4: you gotta go get a quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: But if you're wanting to be this team that gets
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  Speaker 2: over the hump of winning one playoff game over winning
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  Speaker 2: a playoff game, quarterbacks, Yeah, but Fields could do it.
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  Speaker 4: That's what That's what Will is essentially saying, is like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you had a ten one season. That's great you look
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  Speaker 4: at it on paper, but then you put since twenty sixteen,
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  Speaker 4: you have them limping into the playoffs. So Wilson starts
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  Speaker 4: off strong and then all of a sudden putters out.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it hurts.
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  Speaker 2: When Russ came in, he was making that decision correct
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  Speaker 2: for several games.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a public apology in the locker room
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  Speaker 4: from me because I thought Russell was terrible, and I
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  Speaker 4: thought he was done and he was playing a lot better.
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  Speaker 4: Turns out I was right. It turns out I was
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  Speaker 4: right all along. You Arthur Smith.
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  Speaker 7: Low key though Key should go to the past. He's not.
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  Speaker 6: He's not on a very good run. The offense was
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  Speaker 6: not good with the Falcons. That wasn't good at the Steelers.
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  Speaker 4: Had success with Rabel Tannehill.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder who Rabe's gonna bring in his OC.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe Josh McDaniels, that's what I saw. You see that report.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's a no no. You stay away from
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  Speaker 2: that for sure, Arthur Smith, because you know Rabe usually
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  Speaker 2: brings in like guys, he's super close.
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  Speaker 4: Here's the thing that I don't like that coaches do
• 13:55
  Speaker 4: hiring their friends. I do not like that. I think
• 13:58
  Speaker 4: it is a It is a miss and it gets people. Yeah,
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: it gets people fired. It gets guys fired. Whether the
• 14:05
  Speaker 4: GM you hire the head coach as your friend or
• 14:07
  Speaker 4: you're a head coach hiring your staff. It's like, just
• 14:11
  Speaker 4: pick the best guy for the job. Pick the best
• 14:13
  Speaker 4: guy for the job who has the same core values
• 14:16
  Speaker 4: as you do. When you're establishing a culture of a
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: football team, move on after that.
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: Be okay.
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: It's okay to say to your buddy. Listen, Garrett, I
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: love you to death. You're not gonna be my OC.
• 14:25
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I know you think you're you should.
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: Be able to Todd Downy, Todd.
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: Downing, and and the thing is is, yeah, you bring
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: up Todd. It sucks sitting here being like publicly like, yeah,
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: that wasn't the move. It wasn't a move. I love Todd.
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: I thought he was a great guy in the locker room,
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: great guy to hang out with, like him as an individual.
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: Was not the move at the OC. It just is
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: what it is. Does Braves have any overlap with Bobby
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: Slowick in Houston where he could snag him over, you.
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: Know, because slow it came from the Niners with with Raheem.
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: Or the Patriots Tree Patriots Tree is.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: Morrison.
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, all right, you brought up Picking having his
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: postgame presser about not being optimistic. You see a J.
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: Brown reading no post game he had one catch, he
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: had one catch. After the game, he was livid they
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: win a playoff game. He was livid. I'm not talking.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: I saw him reading, but then I saw him talking
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: about reading, and like.
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: Right, you haven't tweeted about it. He's he basically the
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: beat reporters. The reporters came up after the game and
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: he's like, I'm not talking today. I got nothing to say,
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: and then like got his staying smile on his face.
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: But you know, Aj, it was like an AJ like
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: I'm smiling at you, but really have a few me inside.
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: I'm just trying to get away from this so I
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: don't blow up type of situation.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: Well, I saw when I saw the book. When I
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: saw the book stuff, I was laughing out loud.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: Bro.
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the book thing is funny. But he has had
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: the book open in the middle though, which is nice.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's trying to get his head right, like he
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: did only have one catch. Maybe he's like, let me
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: just and they were let me read my favorite Yeah,
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: let me read my favorite paragraph so I can calm
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: the fuck down.
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: There were multiple like omaha routes, quick out routes on
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: several plays where it went to DeVante Smith and he
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: was it was like, you know, a contested catch that
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: Smith would come down with, but Aj'd be over there
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: and he'd have like five six yards of cushion where
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: there'd be some yak.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw a couple where he's got these hitch routes.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: He's getting some separation at the top of the route.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: You see a couple times where they're going to Davante
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: when aj just on his you know, special move slant
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: route where he'll just take it to the house and
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: if you throw it to him and.
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: Stick it on the Eagles to the selflessness of Saquon
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: Barkley at the end of the game, games already essentially
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: in hand, there's a minute six left, like you score,
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: it really doesn't matter. And he had so much open
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: field to run, so much open field to get like legit,
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: forty more yards and still could have slipped, Yeah, but
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: decided to just slide it down and the game. Save
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: the legs. Get a big one coming up next week.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, who do they? Obviously depends on tonight with the
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: Vikings and the Rams, But as of right now, who
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: are they looking to play? Like, say, the Vikings wins
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: in there the food so it would be it would
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: be the Vikings.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, seven's Washington.
• 17:17
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Bill's Ravens is gonna be a game.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: That's gonna be awesome MVP battle. Yeah, so the whole
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  Speaker 4: Man? That game is going to be the game to watch?
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: Which game Ravens Bills?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, man, that game is gonna be so cooking
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: They're cooking.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, do we go?
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Do we talk about the I mean, the only fun
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: game to watch this weekend was The Commander's Buck.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: I want to get your opinion that, being a former commander,
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: former redskin.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: I'm fired up for him.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm fired up for him. You think the road,
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: do you think that they can make a little run here?
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, objectively I feel like or subjectively I feel
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: like it's the end of the road, like you're going
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: to Detroit.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: Detroit is a monster, man powerhouse.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Detroit is a monster. But if you're the Commanders, like
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: you're in the tournament, who fucking knows. Jane Daniels been
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: playing his ass on so JP. This dude and a
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: rookie Like, you're right, this dude operates at a such
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: a high level. It's so fun to watch. And I
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: know this city is just so fired up right now. Dude,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: you have a lot to look forward to in the future,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: whether or not this is at the end of the
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: road this week, because I did, I thought the Bucks
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: would probably beat them. But yeah, fired up for the Commanders.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: You and watching him run around like he's he is
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: such an awareness of the defenders around him that he
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: reminds you a lot of Lamar Jackson when he's scrambling. Yeah,
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: and he gets those three four yards and then just
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: hits the ground real quick, pops back up like he's
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: got a poised confidence about him. Because you see these
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: running quarterbacks, the Redskins in recent history. You have these
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: like really like insane, major highlight running quarterbacks, and then
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: injuries start happening. It becomes a massive issue. With this kid.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: He's got that Lamar Jackson feel where it's like, yeah,
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: he can run, he can throw it too, and he
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: seems like a guy that knows how to stay healthy.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: No said to keep the legs right, knows that to
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: getting those weird entanglements where his bodies and you know,
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: doing a whole bunch of oregony type Yeah, popped on
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: the sideline.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Yay, Yeah that was nuts.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: And if you're the offensive lineman, I tweeted this out
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: like that hits not bad, Like that's just a good
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: old fashioned highlight NFL hit, Like you're gonna put that
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: in the promo next year going into Week one. But
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: as an offensive lignement of the commanders, you've got to
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: start belly bumping or chest but yeah, you start barking
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: a little bit, get up your boy's face, start going
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: little know, a little bit, huh.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: In that third and short where ninety four had him
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: in the backfield and he just hits with it. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: hits with that stif arm and gets the first down towl.
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the whole time chasing him downstairs like bro drop it, the.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: Bro drop it.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, did anybody know what happened to Levante at
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: the end of the game. I saw he got rolled
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: up on I don't I don't think I saw any
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: reports on it yet. You know what, I'm sitting there.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: It's like I'm Public Commanders, That's who I played for.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: But I'm thinking, like Levante, I know, I don't know
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: how much longer he's gonna play, Like this could have
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: been his life. That could have been his last game.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Yesterday could have been his last game if he if
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: he retireded you cry, do what ran?
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: Which? Dude?
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Bro, I'm sitting there. I'm sitting there and I'm telling
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: charl I'm like, sweetheart, Like this dude was drafting the
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: league a year before me. He started and played like
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: a pro bo esque level every year of his career.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Like this dude's thirty five years old.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: I think they said he's like thirty four to thirty five.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: It's nuts, man, and he's had such an incredible career.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: And to be at one place the entire time when
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: they were drafting a guy, they talk about the core values,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: they put it together. Who's the player that it embodies.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: It's Levante, David. He said, such a run many, which
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: is funny. I actually just put.
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: That together, but I was on Twitter.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: People forget Yeah, bro I broke my foot. I broke
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: my foot on a Oh.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: That was you.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I broke my fan.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: I love how you guys are coming to it. I'm
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: still like two steps behind on that, like, oh shit,
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: who got hurt?
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I broke my foot on a Thursday or
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Friday walked through before the season opener, and it was
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: a walk through like we had our helmets. Are like
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: a jog through, like an up tempo, YadA YadA. I
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: break on this stick route in my foot, I feel
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: like just blows up, like somebody takes a shotgun to it,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: and I go down. And Levante starts that weekend, has
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: like thirteen tackles, murder somebody over the middle of the field,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: and I come back like six or seven eight. However,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: long later, it was like for Texas and job was
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: nowhere to be job was nowhere to be talked about
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: it at that point anymore, you kind of knew the
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: writing on the wall. But yeah, Levante just comes on
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: the scene because he came from Juco that year. He
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: was a Juco kid out of one.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what did he start off as a safety.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Uh, he was like a tweiner, Like he's like a
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: dime cat playing dime and he came in and the
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: and the depth chart went like myself, Sean Fisher, Sean
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Fisher breaks his leg in training camp, and uh, yeah,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Blake Lawrence, Sean Fisher breaks his leg in training camp.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: I break my foot. Levante is on the second field,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: operating with the threes throughout training camp and then has
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: to get thrust it into being a starter and then
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: the rest is history. He's going off that entire year.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: He's he's top five old time tackle leaders the in
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Nebraska history in two years, playing two years.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: Twenty seven tackles against Michigan.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: He might seem obvious.
• 23:45
  Speaker 7: Without will Compton, there is no Levonte will Compton.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: There is no Levonte David once a.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: Uh, it all shout out to shut somehow.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: I thought you were like Charling.
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: Said, I wasn't.
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: I was literally scrolling on Twitter to find out the injury,
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: and somebody tweeted out man for any like low rank
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: recruit out there. Remember, nobody even knew Levonte David. It
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: took an injury for him to get in at Nebraska.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's a it's a such an awesome story
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: like his. He's such a good dude. He's such a
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: good soul. He's kind of like an ed reed do wor.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: He's just all football. He's undersized, know how to slip
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: every knows how to slip every block. He's played in
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: the middle of the defense his entire career, not as
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: like a safety or anything else, but as an undersized
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: backer and has all the same, arguably better stats than
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: like the Bobby Wagner's, the Luke Keekleys, because that was
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: the same type of class, Like that was the same
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: type of generation.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: Talk about Bobby Wagner the first two series of that
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: game against Washington, I'm sorry against the Bucks. A menace, Yeah,
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: a menace. You see that when he blits up the
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: middle and hit that running back so hard he actually
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: just missed Baker Mayfield. Yeah, like that's fucking nuts.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Bobby Wagon too. You watch him, like when you're watching
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: him out on the field, like you're like, that's a
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: fucking middle line, Like that's a grown ass man.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Talk about like arms, his hands are like down to
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: his past. His arms are just looked oil and oiled
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: and glossy.
• 25:04
  Speaker 7: Baker put that head down on him though.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he did give him a little shoulders that. Yeah,
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: that dude, he he's got that look of a linebacker
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: and the cat too with them traps.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah he got that.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: He's got that traps that Mike Tyson no neck vibe, dude,
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: head sits a little low, yeah, in a little bit,
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: sits there in the off season, just bangs into a wall.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: So he shrinks into the brades just to touch. Yeah.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Two, it's like, uh, bucks had their chances when Baker
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: fumbles that ball late in the game, Bobby Wager picks
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: it up and they're right there in scoring position, and
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: then when they have that seems like a complex you
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: can you can, uh you can talk about this tailor.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: But there was a moment to where it was like
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: third and inches and they're doing a hard count and
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: then he's like let it roll, let it roller. He
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: just says we're good, We're good, and then turbo. But
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: it seemed like a dummy turbo because he goes but
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: in the center, the young center snaps it on the
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: loud one. But it seemed like it was a dummy
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: turbo because nobody else went but everybody just killed him.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: They tackled Bucky Irving, which Bucky Irvy almost breaks every
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: tackle in the backfield to get the first down. But
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: that was like a third inches that they needed. They
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: had to settle for a field goal instead of like
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: going in for a touchdown. But it seemed like that
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: was a very complicated hard count turbo dummy, turbo, stick
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: with the you know, stick with the run whatever play.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Like they had a double call going yeah.
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: Game, it's like a late is late in the game,
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: fourth quarter. Yeah, I mean they're every every offense has
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: a play call, whether it's freeze, frost frosty like something
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: like that. Like there's always some sort of code word
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: where it's like we're gonna lamp in a formation, then
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: all of a sudden, we're gonna do a full cadence.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: Then the tight end's gonna come off, he's gonna go
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: into a motion. We're gonna get a couple more huts,
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: then the guy's gonna back off, get into the f
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: and like they're in an I formation and then you know,
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: hut hut hut hut. Uh. If you're doing that many
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: cadences and you have a young center, I don't know
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: about that.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: I personally see it seems like like again, you know,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: it's like they had a double call. We're gonna do
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: a hard count. Then I'm gonna let you know if
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: the play still on or we're gonna check it or
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: alert it or do something else. Then you gotta remember
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: that you're on a dummy Turbo. But Turbo. You're listening
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: to Turbo all year long, like as an offensive lineman. Yeah,
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: you're just so used to such second nature.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Turbo unless it's called in the huddle like a
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: Turbo two, which would be in the second hud of
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: after turbo. If you hear turbo is essentially the number one, right,
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: like your ears perk up, knowing, okay, the snap is
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: the next sound is going to be the snap. It's
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: like it's it's making it for me personally if I like,
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: if I'm going to a third and one situation. And
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: this is also a lot of it's predicated on the
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: defense and how they if they like to shift if
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: it what would Abell call it when you guys would
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: all start a little bit wider and then you shift
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: down something like that.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was it was something like that, But that.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: Was that was like a twenty twelve film from the
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: Patriots field goal Field. I think it was against the
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: Bucks too. I think it was against the Bucks, but
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: just depending on what people do one third and one,
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: and if it's a team that usually stays stationary and
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: you know they're gonna bring like an Ammo blitz or
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: two up the middle or something like that, I personally
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: like a like a it's called a fast break. You
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: get out of the huddle, you get set first noise
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: you hear, you're going the first noise. The ball is
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: getting snapped because you're catching the defense off guard.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: It's either you want.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: To go real late or real early. And those key
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: like gotta have it like short yard of situations that way,
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: it's like you're just trying to find whatever you can't
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: get up her hand because it's grown man fucking football
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: at that point. Yeah, And to be honest with you, boys,
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: a lot of times I wasn't the growness of the
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: men when I was going against the boy in front
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: of me. So I want a little bit of I
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: give me a little whatever little advantage I can take.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: Give me a snap count that can help the boy
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: out a little bit.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously that's a snap but they get an off
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: size penalty, it's gonna be a first down. That was
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: when they were down like twenty twenty to seventeen. They
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: ultimately had to settle for a field goal and make
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: it twenty twenty.
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: And banking in the field goal anyways to win is crazy.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Nuts bro a doink win. Because when it started going over,
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, I.
• 28:54
  Speaker 7: Thought he was gonna miss because he kept doing this
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: with his hair.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I say, he's missing like bad.
• 29:01
  Speaker 8: And there's like his takes and so like he's like
• 29:03
  Speaker 8: doing that because he's like gotta get set and get
• 29:05
  Speaker 8: ready and.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: There's another.
• 29:08
  Speaker 8: Year and also cleats, he's retying his cleats like over
• 29:11
  Speaker 8: and over. So I guess he has these OCD tickes.
• 29:13
  Speaker 8: And so imagine being a kicker with OCD and in
• 29:15
  Speaker 8: the game winning field goal.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: And you're just like fuck fuck like one two three, yeah,
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: especially because there are situations where like, what was it hurricane,
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: Like there's a there's this hurricane field goal. It's like
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: eighteen seconds on the clock, third down, no timeouts, you're
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: in field goal range. You've got to go kicker right away.
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: And there's this whole program of how to get guys
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: off the field, how to get guys on the field,
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: and I get the kickers as fast as possible. If
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: you're an OCD guy, that you have to do four
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: hand you two shoot, Like, yeah, you gotta go balld.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Dude. If I'm a kicker, I almost want more of
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: the hurricane, Like you're rushing to get on the Yeah,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: you don't think about you you gotta think about it. Like,
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: but when the offense is trying to methodically put it
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: on the spot you're at and it's kind of like
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: that thirty forty year field goal, I'm probably thinking to myself,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: these boys think this is just a gimme. I'm over
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: here nervous this year.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, that shit when in Texas versus Asu, when
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: Start walked up to his boy the kicker and like
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: get him love. If I'm a kicker in that situation,
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: it's like, leave me the fuck alone. Yeah, like pretend
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: like I just don't even exist on this world for
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: a little bit and all that remember, like not remember
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: like freezing kickers like that would be the fucking worst. Yeah.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: Calling a time out at the end of the game
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: and it goes right up the middle two and you're
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: just like, oh my fucking god, dude, if I could
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: just get that one again, kickers Man snipers more time
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: to think about it. Shadow, Ryan suck up, Dude did
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: a great for him. Shout out, Ryan suck Up. Just
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: a dog out there.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: How about the fucking Texans?
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean dog.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Dog walking the Chargers. Chargers beat their ass for a
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: quarter and a half, and we're sitting there and it's
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: six to nothing. It's like this game should be some
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: one of those feelings, like as a player, it should
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: be fourteen or nothing right now. Like if you're the Charger,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: you're like, hey, fellas, like we got to get seven
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: or because they're still in And then if you're the Texans,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: you're getting destroyed. The ball's not bouncing your way either,
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Like they had a I forget what it was, but
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: it just didn't go their way. But you're sitting there,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: it's like, hey, fel's like it's only six to nothing.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Like as bad as we've played, like we're still in
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: this game, it's sure enough. Thirty two unanswered points later,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: the Texas defense was eating.
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: Broke, eating Will Anderson, going off.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Daniel Hunter, Autrey, Will, Will and.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: Audrey had a couple plays in a row Brother where
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: it's like, holy shit.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Alsha, here was tattooing folks. Then you got Stingley that's
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: making plays. I don't know why they're tried. They were
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: trying Stingley all game.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah that game that hey, Herbert, I know that game
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: reminded me a lot of Packers Eagles where it's like
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: Houston was taking advantage of the Chargers bad football, and
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: Eagles were taking advantage of the Packers bad football. The Houston,
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: Houston took more advantage than the Eagles did. But it's like, yeah,
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: Herbert had a bad day. He had a rough day.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: It seemed like the play calling was a little all
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: over the place. It just seemed like they couldn't get
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: settled and like grounded in the moment of you know
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: where they need to be, which is weird because you
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: think Harball culture guy, he's gonna have his guys ready
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: to go. But then there's the old Herbert. He loves
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: a choking the playoffs.
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: Dirty bubble got hard. They know he's a SpongeBob fan. Yeah,
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: and they had his quote, you're on the sideline. You
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: can't call murmury man barnacle boy. He's he was captured
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: he was.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Got Were you watching that?
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Were you watching that?
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: What am I saying? Yeah?
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Were you watching the broadcast in Nickelodeon. Yeah, they had
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: SpongeBob up there like commentating with Pat pf Man Yeah,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: pf Manatee and Big Catfish. Then you had like Lebron
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: and Kevin Hart. I forget what their their fish for Lebron, Yeah, Lebron,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: James Dog. It was.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: I feel bad for the Chargers, but the Texans man,
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: I've been good for them.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Do they make it? Do they make it interesting? In
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Kansas City? They're dangerous, they could, They're dangerous.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: Hard to be hard to beat a team twice. It
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: is hard to beat a team twice. She's got to
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: get to Pat when they got the tools to get there,
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: they got to Chargers.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: So the playoff. Willie Parlay was dead in the first game,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: just the first gone, Hey, you're forty something thousand people riding.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Your response to that too, of the captain from Titanic
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: walking in going down the ship maybe the best response
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: he could possibly have to it.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: What do we go?
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: He's just so captain, Captain, sir, your life Jackets said,
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: just keep swapping.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Lebron's didn't hit either. Daves was cooking there for
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: a second. But Cortland Sutton, they've hit four out of
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: five of his legs. Courtland Sutton didn't score for the Broncos.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the I don't think the Texans can do against
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: the Chiefs. I think I think we're gona see Chiefs
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: in Nancy.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Championship at least.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and we can start talking about you. I gotta
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: see Ravens bills and how those games operate. I think
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: it could be one sided.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: That Dame could be bum bum liked. Obviously, being like
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: a Chief stater, I'm bummed out that the Chiefs get
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: just the winner of that game versus having to play
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: both of them.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because you kind of one.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, man, if the Raven's could have just lost
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: one more game and maybe they slip down a seat
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: to where they're the ones going to Kansas City.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: I saw a funny clip of you ever see like
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: the dog who hits the basketball on the stairs and
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: it kind of bounces in the basket of who's gonna
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: win the players? Yeah, using that whether there was one
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: where a guy had a marble and it was in
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: between like these two lines and he would roll it
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: and these two dominoes were different colors, and it was
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: based on the teams whicheveryone fell was gonna be the loser.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: And every time the Chiefs one died, he like throw
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: a flag at it and put them back up. It
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: is It's crazy, man, It's crazy. But yeah, I think
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: we should get into our podcast. Yeah, I did want
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: to talk a little college football. See if the Matthews
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: brothers want to do.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: We can uh, yeah, we can either do when they're on,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: we can do it after, but we Clay Matthews, call Matthews,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: the Matthews brothers. They're in the shop right now. So
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: we're gonna go ahead and hit that interview. If we
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: do any more intro talk you guys who'll obviously recorded
• 34:34
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  Speaker 1: Real quick.
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  Speaker 4: Come on, skee Chans dialed in. You get anything at
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: that charity event?
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Dude?
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's such a fun time to go there, but
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: it's like we're really just there to like be there
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  Speaker 4: and be with every body to that.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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• 36:02
  Speaker 4: Do I het your fucking assistant, and it was She's like,
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: all right, you need to start doing it again. It
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: was bad. It was bad.
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: What's the serious question, what's what is the downside to
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: her addictions?
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: There are no side effects zero, It's really just you
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: feel great all the time.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: So, nicotine is proven. It's neuroprotective, it's a stimulant. It
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: helps the multitasking. There's a lot of benefits of it.
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: Do they pay you to say this.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: No, but uh, but there are like you could elevate
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: your blood pressure, shrink your veins, like not shrinker veins,
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: but like make it more difficult for blood. I don't know.
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: There's there's a couple of bad things, but I would
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: say the pros outweigh the cons. And also depends what's
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: in there too.
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: They said about cigarettes in the fifties.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: Right, exactly, they make a man exactly nice? Did you
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: did you guys ever chew or anything like that? Dude,
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: you kind of with the jacket on and the bun on,
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: you seem like you could have a lip in.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: The big league. You. Yeah, in there, I was, I
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: was mister straight edge. You never never want to taint
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: the body.
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: We'll talk about this, but yeah, my dad would have
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: kicked our ass if we had done any of that.
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: We could talk about it right now, Mitch, we rolling, baby,
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: we've been rolling. Well, we can cut everything. Don't you worry.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: Don't you worry one bit. Obviously, Hey, you're in a
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: safe space, not a mistake. We're all good. But you
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: said your dad would have kicked your ass if you
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: were taking doing anything extra. Was it like a booze
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: or was it like, hey, we get past booze. Now
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: we got a problem.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Now. We were just from a family that was very
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: you know, our parents didn't drink didn't even drink wine. Naturally,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: smoking is not good for you, and so I mean
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: it just it was just expected and coming from you know,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: obviously father playing in the NFL. I mean, it was
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: common sense and so, I mean it was just a given.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: You know. It wasn't like you we were sneaking around
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: and doing anything like that. But yeah, he probably would
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: have kicked our ass.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: I think Clay Saint and said, you speak for yourself.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: Yes, wowkright, go for it.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think are the rebel of the family.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Oh me, No, No, no, Kyle, Kyle.
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: I think it's safe to say that which is which
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: is interesting what the dynamic within the family is now
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: in my role within the family. But to your question,
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: and to piggyback on what Clay said, I don't know
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: if it's a conversation my dad ever had with us, like, hey,
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: if you do these things like you know, you're in
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: big trouble. I think it's I think it's a combination
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: of to Clay's point, knowing that they weren't good for you.
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: My parents didn't do it so somewhat as a kid,
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: not often, but there's correlation, like your parents behavior and
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: modeling it. But I think also if I had to
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: look back, I don't know if I've ever done this
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: like in this the way I will now is like
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: and tell me if I'm right. We wanted to as boys,
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: we wanted to be our dad when we grew up.
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: My dad is like a superhero. You know, he's this
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: nineteen year NFL star, like good looking, jacked, great person,
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: and it still is. But like at the time, you know,
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: he's thirty, thirty five, forty and just and he didn't
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: do any of those things. And so subconsciously, I'm sure
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: there was part of that where it's like, well, if
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: he doesn't do it, we shouldn't do it either, if
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: we want to be that when we grow up again.
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: I don't know if that if that's like a specific
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: conversation he had with us, I can't remember that. You
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: just you just didn't do it, right.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Do you think the standard is the standard?
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's all you guys kind of knew.
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: When you you guys now have kids, do you find
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: it like you're gonna want to have those conversations say hey,
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: we don't do these things or just kind of lead
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: by lead by example the way your father did. Because
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: I feel like it's much easier to say, hey, don't
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: do these things. And obviously you don't want you don't
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: want to do those things yourself either, but to have
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: be like it's just known can be tough. It seems
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: like you guys got the message loud and clear. But
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: for having kids, have you guys approach it any differently?
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: Well? Yeah, my kids are a little older, and I
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: don't know if you're having those conversations with kids yet,
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: But like my oldest is fourteen. I got four kids,
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: my son Brody fourteen, daughters Kylie and Dixie who are eleven,
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: and seven, and then I got three year old son Murph,
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: and so Brody, I just I take kind of the
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: Trump tack. I Trump told his kids like no drugs,
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: no alcohol, you know, no tobacco, And I just say,
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: those are my rules. And I'm you know, I'd like
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: to think of myself as a principal father. You know,
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: I don't have a lot of rules, but the rules
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: I have, I feel confident to say, my kids know
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: where the line is and so those are those are
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: some of my very few rules in the house. And
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: so the answer to your question, I'm not I'm not
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: making the assumption our parents probably made with us and
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: luckily it turned out okay. But I'm having those conversations
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: with my children.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure I'm gonna have to have them as well.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: But my youngest, my youngest is Colton, who's five. My
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: daughter just turned nine, Maddie, and my oldest, Clay, the
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: fourth is nine, will be or she's my daughter's eight,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: my son's nine, he'll be ten. It's like a Crimarti
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: moment right here. But Colton's great at getting Daddy the
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: yellow can in the in the mini fridge, which is uh,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: you know, the pills there, so, but we'll have those
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: conversations new lat Can for the I PA. But we'll
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: we'll have those conversations later.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: Dude, what when you were having being in the third,
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: when you were having a kid before you knew did
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: you want to did you want a boy? Did you
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: want that fourth?
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: I didn't care if it was a boy or girl
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: at the time. And then when we had him at
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: a way, yeah, it was just kind of a given.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, I was like, I kind of got to
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: keep this going. But I did kind of waiver a
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: little bit, thinking like I don't want to name him
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: the fourth, Like we're getting into English royalty over here.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: That shit's still fourth. It is. But it's funny because
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: I had through hearsay, I think my mom had said,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: my Dad's like, I don't want the I don't want
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: the name to go away, and since obviously he was junior,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: so I'm like, all right, we got to name the fourth.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: But that was tricky out in Green Bay because it's
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: not a lot of people named Clay out there, and
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: they treat you, you know, the celebrity out there is unbelievable.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: You don't have a lot of freedom, so we had to.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: We called him Bubba, that was our nickname. And he's
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: still between the family, he goes by Bubba, and now
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: that we're out and then we're in the south now,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: so Bubba actually fits in. But he finally goes by
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Clay at school now because nobody cares about me anymore. Yeah.
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: Always, I always, I always think it's interesting. I'm the
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: oldest boy and my dad didn't give me that name,
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: And I swear to God, if he hadn't em me Clay,
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: I'd be six four, two hundred and fifty pounds. I'd
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: be sitting in an office somewhere typing out TPS report.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, along the way, did you ever did you
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: ever think about that, like feel some type of way
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: along the way like you were or your dad's junior,
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: and then ultimately Clay becomes a third, like I'm the
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: third as well, William orl the third, and I'm the oldest.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: So I would I never had to think of.
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say, I don't know. I've never you know,
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: I know a lot of juniors and thirds, maybe not
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: as much for it, they're always the first. I've I
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: haven't thought about it other than like the joke like
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: I'm I've convinced myself that if I got the name
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: like just the way that Dyna, I'd be like, you know,
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: I'd be an ex NFL guy with a man bun,
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: but like you can only get away and if he
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: plays sports ory, you're a Yogans.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: I used to live in Van Eye, so I can
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: go a different out with that man. But uh no,
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: So the reason why I was named is because I
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: guess uh ran out of names. Well no, from what
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: I've heard, and maybe my parents are lying to me,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: is that when they had the the ultrasound back in
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: the day, they weren't that good, so they thought I
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: was a girl before I was born came out, I
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: was a boy, and I guess you gotta leave.
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: Why do they think you were a girl?
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Though, Man, it's medicine, it's all good. They couldn't. I
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: couldn't see the easiest lay, but you have ever been
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: so yeah, So I guess my grandfather had called my
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: father and my mom and said, you know, want you
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: his name after me and my brother who's in between
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Kyle and I here, his middle name is Clay because
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: that was going to be the you know, continuation of
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: that Clay name, and so now my name, my middle
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: name is actually Clay as well. It's William Clay Matthews.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: So oh, let's go.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: Taylor Curtis.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: One day I get a boy, so I can carry
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: on the on the name if when you're a junior,
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: it's so easy.
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: I feel like, when you get to the third, the
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: fourth to fifth, you tell my royalty. I think that's awesome.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: But being a junior is not the best. And you
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: had to have a nice name to William Earl's nice.
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: William Clay is great. Taylor Curtis. I don't want to
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: pass that down. I don't want to give that. I
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: don't want to give that bait ass name to my kids.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: Give him something cool.
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: But now I got two girls.
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: Dude, I'm spitting. There's a whole there's a there's a
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: war going on this cold. We had a team meeting
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: last week and at the team meeting turned into JP
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: and a couple of guys being like, just have a third,
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: just have a third. So I'm obviously gonna been the knee. Like,
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: I don't know how your household works. I don't run
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: my show. There's nothing about my house. I'm like, yeah,
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: I'm the man, not if you want to does not happen.
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: I will be having a third kid, don't tell.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: My wife has figured out that the only reason is
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: the nose because of him. So now we're trying to
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: try to get.
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: That one true And tell you made me feel a
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: little bit better because you said you got I'm here
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: fourteen eleven, nine and three. So that big gap sits
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: year down.
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: Said that was a COVID Like whoops.
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like hands.
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: My wife's always like, oh gosh, she's always like, she's
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: always like, you had one job. You couldn't even do that, right?
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Did you ever?
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: Did you ever dabble with the idea of going to
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: get a little surgery?
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm medically retired now, yeah you're done.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah I'm out.
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: I had to go red shirted out the baby making.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: Game checks in the mail.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: One.
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: But he was a little, you know, too little, too late.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: So now sometimes you play that Russian roulette.
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: No, but but now we got the fourth. He's healthy,
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: you know, like when he turns eighteen, I'll be like, hey,
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: how you doing, Like what's your name? You know? No,
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: Murph is like, uh, you know, we get all the
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: kids together every almost every Saturday, and he's like the
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: little he's like the little pet like he's he's he's fun.
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: You know, you throw a ball and he goes and
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: gets it and then he brings it back. It's like
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: kind of a fetch thing.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you plus plus if you having a fourteen eleven
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: year old, it's like you have built in babysitters.
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, like no, no, not, my kids are.
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: Okay, we're gonna find a way around this thing.
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: But but now see so it's it's leverage, right, and
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: so when you have, as a related to air.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: Well hold on with your kids. Is now I have leverage.
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: I can use it. I'm gonna come across.
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: No, I'm playing like with my fourteen year old. It's like, hey,
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: when especially as as the male with the air thing,
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: and you're like, when you got one, there's a lot
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: of leverage on his end. Now I'm like, you know,
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: I got an air and a spare, Like you mess up,
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: I got another one coming up the ranks. You know,
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: like I got a backup who's on a cheaper contract
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: and making plays like you can't sit out too many
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: games right now? You know, like it's called I hold
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: them accountable, right, Just know it's it's science ability availability.
• 46:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right.
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know how that.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: Is for the team you're against with the year old man?
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: What was it like growing up? So we last year
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: we had on we've had on Christan McCaffrey, and we
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: had on his dad, Ed McCaffrey, and Christian was telling
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: us stories how he couldn't get arm tackled growing up
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: or grabbed by the jersey, how you'd have to take
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: the jersey and everything else and if he'd get arm tackled,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: he'd get grounded. Was your How was he told it?
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: He told a story about his dad went into the
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: backyard in the woods and found an empty coke can
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: and came to the house it was this and they
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: got grounded for drink and soda at least.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Now, yeah, you you've got an interesting story because I
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: think you you put on didn't he have you put
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: on pads? And you did drills with him? Because I
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: I didn't have that experience.
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, here here's I answer you a question. And then
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: he coached you more. But I was the oldest, so
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: like my understanding of the McCaffrey's which is very limited,
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: but I heard I heard that, like those stories is.
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: My father was the total opposite. And I'll give you
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: some examples here, like I didn't play football till ninth grade, right,
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: and I played in all sports, but I played soccer
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: as a fall sport, and it just just is what
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: it is. He never once pushed football. We never watched
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: a single football game in our house unless my dad
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: was playing, and even then we may or may not
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: watch it depending on the broadcast schedule. Never watched a
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: college football game until I played in one. Never watched
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: an NFL game unless my dad, maybe my uncle. I
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: don't even think we watched my uncle Bruce, Yeah he
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: was yes. So it was the total opposite. It was
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: very you know, kind of what we believe old school
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: parenting is, like you just let kids be kids. They
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: figured out like no involvement, nothing. When I was going down,
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: when I was getting ready to play football in college,
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: the only conversation my father ever had with me, and
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: you might have been different, was like, hey, uh, you
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: know you don't have to play football because I played football.
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: It was like Matthew's like emoting, which is non like yeah, yeah,
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: yeah cool.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: That don't be too weird.
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: No, we were just weird. Well, what's just happened, you know,
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: But we were we are at a stop by. He's like, hey, uh,
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: you know you don't have to play football because I played.
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: I go, yeah, yeah, Dad, I know that. He goes, Okay,
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: I just want you to know that I was whoa
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: like he.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: You know, I love you, right? Yeah?
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: No.
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: The only thing my dad retired when I was a
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: sophomore in high school. I mean, you think about that.
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: He played nineteen years, so like imagine your kids being
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: a sophomore in high school. When he retired, it was different.
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: And then he started coaching. Yeah, it's wild. And then
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: he started coaching me in high school and that was
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: the only involvement. By then I had chosen to play football.
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: He coached you a lot earlier because you were younger,
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: And the only time was heading into my senior year
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: in high school, they were moving me from like defensive
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: back down to like kind of outside rush, and I
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: think he thought I needed to truly probably did get
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: more physical. So he put pads on me and like
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: it was like one hundred degrees in a Gore Hills, Like,
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: he put pads on me, and during the summer he'd
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: make me go down and he would put pads on
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: and we'd have to do hitting drills. This is true,
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: this is this is.
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: Why he's still playing or just recently retired, like a
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: year out of the league. He's still got it.
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: No, he's he's like the.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: Rock grid iron games.
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Like so on one hand, he had no involvement whatsoever.
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: He was just like, look, I'll let my kids figure
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: out who they are. If they're going to be players,
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: are gonna be players. If they're not, they're not. But yeah,
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: in high school he put on helmets and shoulder pads
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: and like I would have to go thump them. And
• 50:17
  Speaker 5: I remember like, and I was not that kid who
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: was about like getting best, Like what am I doing
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: out here right now? Like all my friends are at
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: the beach and so you're thinking about TPS reports. Yeah
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: that would come later, Yeah, that would come later when
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: you know, I realized I had no options, so, you know,
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: but that was the only thing. I don't know. Was
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: he different with you?
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Well, I remember him taking me to the Golds gym
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: in like sixth grade, and I was just such a bitch,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: like I didn't want to lift, you know, he was
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: putting the the brown paper towel over the neck machine
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, Dad, and I couldn't even do you know,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: like a like a five on each side of the
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: you know, the bench press. I was embarrassed and I
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: didn't want to and I just want to play probably
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: Halo at the time, and I didn't really want to,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: and it wasn't until and my dad was like he
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: tried to. But you know, at the end of the day,
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: like Kyle said, he's like, all right, man, like you know,
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: you do you and you figure it out.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: And so my junior year I had a buddy still
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: my best friend of this day. He ended up getting
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: drafted by the Chicago Bears and oh wait, hurt his
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: back and you know, fell out of the league. But
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: ultimately we pushed each other. And so I was also
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: late to develop. So between my junior and senior year
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: in high school, I went through puberty and I probably
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: grew like four inches and put on like forty pounds.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: So at that time I was big for where I
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: played football, and I was I was decent, but not
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: good enough to get a college scholarship. So ultimately, like
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: you know, as far as his uh wait.
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: What is that picture of my dad and my uncle
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: with their shirts off, go down bottom, right. I don't
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: think I've ever seen that. That's that sports.
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: Is win.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: You find anything, But I mean, yeah, so you know,
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: we Yeah, he kind of just let us just develop
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: into our own person. And like I said, I don't
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: think there's a right or wrong way. Like I developed
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: a natural love for the game and appreciation for it, so,
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: you know, unlike the mcap obviously that's working well for
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: the mccaffreys, you know. So there was really no right
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: or wrong. But that's how he parented us, and when
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: he retired, he naturally jumped into coaching me as a kid.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: So I've had his tutelage and coaching ever since I
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: was in I think third third grade, So you know,
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: that's why I've had I really think getting into the
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: league as a rookie, just having immediate success was just
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: because I grew up in that family. I knew what
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: was expected. I knew, you know, what was going to
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: come at me, money, fame, women, whatever it may be.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: So I was ready to go.
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• 53:40
  Speaker 4: When you talk about going not having a scholarship after
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: high school and then obviously you know your uncle, your dad,
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: like your entire family just like it's like, oh, you're
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: a Matthews.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: You guys ever Matthew's family Wikipedia, Yeah, exactly, you have that.
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: Is there anything going through your head of like I
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: didn't live up to the name, or I didn't I
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: didn't you know, exceee, I didn't meet the expectations that
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: I'm supposed to meet. Whether it's your family putting on
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: you or you personally put it on yourself.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I never felt that at all. If I
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: got something I think about for my you know, my
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: son the fourth, I'm like, oh, shoot, man, you have
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: to live up these expectations. But I don't know if
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: that's how my dad felt. A lot of people ask me, oh,
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: you know, you're gonna play in the NFL, You're gonna
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: do this. I was just kind of doing my thing,
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: and I never felt pressure from him, much like he
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: told Kyle to live up to the expectation of play
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: in the NFL, playing for nineteen years and accomplishing all
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: that he accomplished. So mine was just natural and gradual.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: But I never felt that pressure. You know. The pressure
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: that I felt was once I started ascending, got into
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: the NFL and wanted to maintain that standard and the name,
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: like you just said.
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well I could comment on that. So I felt
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: it tremendously, like it was a it was a weight
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: my whole life. I don't know if it's because I
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: was the oldest, or I just wired differently and Clay's
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: better at tuning things out than I am. It was
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: just you got it your whole life, and I was
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: really we both were, but me, i'd argue even more, so,
• 55:06
  Speaker 5: really small undersize our whole life. We're always like the Runts,
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: and so you know, and we moved around a lot,
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: like oftentimes we moved back and forth, but all all told,
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: we moved thirty plus times, you know, because my dad
• 55:18
  Speaker 5: would play for the Browns. So we'd moved to Cleveland
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: in July August and we live in Cleveland until December Januy,
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: we moved back.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: To no off season at the time.
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: So yeah, live in l Yeah.
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: So it was a true off season, which means like
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: you see you later see in six months. So no
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: matter where I went, I would get comments like, man,
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: what what happened to you? You're a Matthews, Like you
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: must be a disappointment, Like you're why you're so undersized,
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: like you're the run like we all were. That I
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: would argue, but I, again, I don't know if I'm
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: wired different.
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: Kids and wife beaters.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so you're also the first one going through.
• 55:51
  Speaker 5: And I was the first one going through it, and
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: then part of it. Not to dismiss Clay's experience, because
• 55:56
  Speaker 5: that was his experience. Like he made it, right, I mean,
• 55:58
  Speaker 5: he made it and had a phenomenal career. Now that
• 56:00
  Speaker 5: wasn't always how it looked right, you know, certainly coming
• 56:04
  Speaker 5: out of high school and what he was able to
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: accomplish at as see, and the transformation physically and mentally
• 56:09
  Speaker 5: in his game to be a first round pick and
• 56:11
  Speaker 5: go on to have a brilliant career. I didn't and
• 56:14
  Speaker 5: so very much that in my humble opinion, led to
• 56:19
  Speaker 5: ultimately what and I'll let others define it, but like
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: if I've achieved success in business, I really give credit
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: to that drive, that motivation was. If you look at
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: the Matthews and again, you know, I want to be fair.
• 56:34
  Speaker 5: It's hard for me to be impartial with my family.
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: I love him tremendously. Like you look at the history
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: of the Matthews, especially on the male side, it's just
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: high achievement. Going back to my great grandfather, Maddie played
• 56:44
  Speaker 5: professional baseball and then ultimately was a boxing coach at
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: the Citadel. My grandfather Clay the first Clay Senior was drafted,
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: played for the forty nine ers. He played for the
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: forty nine ers, then went and served in the Airborne,
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: then went back played for the forty nine ers, got
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: out of the league. This is in fifty five fifty six,
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: because he had five kids, and you couldn't support a
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: family on five You couldn't support a family of five kids.
• 57:09
  Speaker 5: The area is right there. Handsome guy looks like me.
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: And so.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: This is a trip.
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: Couldn't support a family of five on an NFL salary
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: because it wasn't. So he goes into business. Fast forward
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: twenty years. He's the CEO of a publicly traded company,
• 57:24
  Speaker 5: so highly successful.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: Then you have.
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: There's four males in the next generation, my dad and
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: my uncle who are Hall of Fame effectively Hall of
• 57:33
  Speaker 5: Fame player. My father longest. I think most games NFL
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: history as a linebacker my dad, I could be wrong.
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: And then most games NFL history as a o lineman, Bruce,
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure that's true, are still true. And then
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: the two other males were mentally handicapped.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: So like that.
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: Where I'm getting is I'm the oldest male of the
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: next generation between me, Clay Bryan Casey on our side,
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: so four, and then how many males on Bruce six seven,
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: so eleven twelve, I'm the oldest. And then I played
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: football at SC and I get a letter, I play
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: some special teams. It does I realize I'm not going
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: to go to the NFL. Like I see I played
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: the same position at the same time as Troy Polamolo.
• 58:14
  Speaker 5: So I'm like, okay, that's an NFL guy.
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: Competition.
• 58:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he's okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: Watching him kill that dude on that special thing is playing.
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: I was there.
• 58:23
  Speaker 5: I was I was there on the sideline. No, but
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: but I I very quickly I said, okay, that's an
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: NFL guy.
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: That's not me.
• 58:31
  Speaker 5: And so I go into the I go into commercial
• 58:34
  Speaker 5: really say the work, the workplace, and I'm sitting there
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: my first day at work, like sitting in a cube
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: like kind of what all athletes you know have dread, Like,
• 58:42
  Speaker 5: oh no, that nine to five, so to speak. It's
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: it's not that bad. It just very much, you know,
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: think of a visual representation. I said, well, I'm not
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: going to be the first average Matthews Like, okay, it's
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: not going to be the NFL. If it's going to
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: be this real estate thing, I'm going to do whatever
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: it takes to be the greatest of all time because
• 58:59
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to be the first in my line
• 59:01
  Speaker 5: to be an average and to not leave a mark
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: for whatever that's worth. And you could say, oh, expectations,
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: that's not fair, that's silly. That's true, Like that's what
• 59:09
  Speaker 5: drove me and fast forward, you know, ostensibly twenty years
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: to the position I'm in in my industry. Expectations was
• 59:17
  Speaker 5: and to this day is the primary driver outside the
• 59:21
  Speaker 5: ones we all have, which is supporting our family and
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: well creation, wealth and things like that. So it was huge,
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: huge for me, and to this day is I don't
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: want to let down that legacy. And I'm sure people
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: listening is like, well, that's stupid. That's what I felt, right.
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: Does that make sense?
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it makes a lot of sense. How long
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: did it take you to kind of feel like at
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: peace with the end? Not make it to the NFL
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: going into more of a traditional job because I think
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: a lot of people that listen to the show, we
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: have a lot of x NFL players on, we don't
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: have a lot of people that are you know, just
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: played college and then we're highly successful in the real
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: estate world. So more people than not have to make
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: that transition earlier than people that are usually on the
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: show that it probably won't don't know like how like
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: how long did it take you to come to peace
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: with like one to the next chapter?
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a great question.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: It took a minute to get that one out.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: But well, here's what he had such a good job
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: articulating the entire journey. Question.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, here's here's what you can.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: Tell he's in the CDs. You know why.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, here's here's what.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: I want to make sure I answer your question because
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: there's like a couple of things to impact there. So
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 5: the first I want to say that I have had
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 5: time to think about this, and I am convinced that
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 5: it was a blessing for me never really to get
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 5: traction as a player into college in the NFL. I
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 5: I and I have I've seen this firsthand, both within
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 5: my family and outside my family, that I actually think
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 5: it's harder if you play in the league four or
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 5: five years. It's like a tease, like you actually taste
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 5: and touch it and you get you get paid, whether
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 5: it's the minimum three ninety five. I don't know if
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 5: that's still it or you get paid three million bucks
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 5: a year to do that for four or five years
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 5: and you do get some wealth and then for the
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: career not to work out and you're thirty and you say, okay,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: what do I do now? And then you start in
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 5: a career. Let's just say just like mine, and let's
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 5: say you're starting salaries fifty five grand. You're like fifty
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: five grand like I made that per quarter, right, And
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 5: it's such it's such a mind buck, right, It's it's
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 5: not it's really hard. I never had to overcome that,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: and so I'm sensitive and I have empathy for the
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: athletes who actually did play. They didn't play long enough.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: If I may to not, at least financially ever have
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: to work again, Whether you should or shouldn't, that's that's opinion.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 5: But like to where financially you know, you probably don't
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 5: need to worry about money. A lot of athletes they
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: play a little bit and then it's taken away. So
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 5: again I want to make sure I answer your question.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: I think it was easier for me, and it wasn't easy,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: but it was easier for me because I never even
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 5: I never even tasted that or touched it or experienced that.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: So I went straight from you know, kind of a
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: special teamer in college to like the workforce. And so
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: the answer to your question is it it's it's very hard,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 5: and it it gets easier over time, but you never
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: truly get over it. And I don't know. I don't
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 5: know if if a guy who played fifteen years and
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: never has to work again and made all pro and
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 5: is in the Hall of Fame ever gets over it.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: You see it every day. I don't know if any
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: of you guys will ever get over it. It's so hard,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 5: you know, to have that life when you're twenty seven,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: and then fast forward to forty seven, and you know,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 5: people care less and you make less. So it just
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 5: it was really hard. Early on, I'm sitting in that cube,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 5: I'm working at the time. I usually get in the
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 5: office at five forty five to six, and I worked
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 5: till eight thirty nine at night, like five days a
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 5: week plus Saturdays. And all of my teammates, my close
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 5: friends from SC like I would say all a lot
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 5: of them are playing in the league, especially at that
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 5: time with Pete Carroll and g I ay say it
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 5: was early two thousands early two thousands, and he came
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 5: in right after there was a ten year run where
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: like in any given year, you know, ten fifteen year
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 5: teammates were going to the league, and everyone going there
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 5: was like I'm going to the NFL. Whether that happened
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 5: or not, obviously, you know, not everybody made it. But
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 5: you know guys that I played with, Sean Cody, a Loofuz,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 5: Super obviously, Lionert Bush, all those guys like they're playing
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 5: and they're moving on, and I'm you know, sitting in
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 5: a much less glamorous light, you know, wearing a suit
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 5: and tie and and uh, you just everybody handles it differently.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 5: I just again getting back to partly the not letting
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 5: the Matthew saying. Now, I said, I'm just not gonna
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: I'm just not gonna let these guys have these big
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 5: lives and I'm not. And if it's real estate, I
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: don't know how. I don't know how I'm gonna do it,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 5: but I'm gonna figure it out. Like I'm not going
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 5: to be the only unsuccessful teammate. I'm not going to
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 5: have my teammate say hey, we're gonna go here and
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: say sorry, I can't do that or I can't afford that.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 5: And again one of my big driver was the family legacy,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: but one of many drivers you have or you hope
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: you have when you're when you're getting getting out of sports.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: Did I answer your question?
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we knocked it out of the park.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: It's kind of that if you can tell you understood
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: this about Kyberfest is kind of the first time you're
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: hearing all of it, and.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: Like, well, as far as the legacy is concerned, that's
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: definitely new to me. And it doesn't sup though, and
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: it doesn't the reason why he's had a success, But
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: as to where that motivator comes from, you know, I mean,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: I think that's I'm not gonna say a surprise, but
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: it's interesting to hear because obviously it's Matthews. We talk
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: about how we're emotional but not a motive. So to
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: have these conversations, you know, you're like, oh, okay, it's
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: usually when it's a little a little late, but yeah,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: to your point about you know, like us kind of yeah,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: I don't think any of us we have to be
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: at peace with when our career comes to end, because
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: I don't think any of us wanted to give it up. No,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: highest paid probably at one point. I know I was
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: Pro Bowls, All Pros ten years. Yeah, argue, I'm a
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: little round up for you.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 5: If you include Dynasty Mode in Madden.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and you know, so you have to be
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: at peace with that. You have to, you know, because
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: it's it's you can't sit here because obviously I still
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: felt like I have I had some tread on the
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: tires when the Rams let me go in two thousand
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: and nine team, but you still feel like you got tread. Well,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: I do have tread, It's just you know, it's more
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: around my stomach right now.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: So's but you do look like you could, Yeah, if
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: the playoff team needed you right now, right plus the jacket.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: The packers said they we're looking for someone, but we
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: saw that ended.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 5: But no one really ever gets over it.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: No one ever gets over it. But you're right, you
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 4: got to have you have to have some sort of peace.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: You have like you you have gratitude. Other than being
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: like I wish I could have done X, Y and Z,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: you have to look back and be like, man, I'm
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: so lucky I got to do whatever it is, whether
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: it was for a couple of years, or if you're
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: a Hall of Fame type.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: Guy, this is hard. It's hard to think like that too.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: It is usually a forced out of the league for
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: whatever reason. Injuries, new GM, new head coach, team sucks,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: you know, whatever it may be. So it's always somebody
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: else's fault. You got to look in the mirror too
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: and be like, whoever's fault to us? You got to
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: let it go and you know, be at peace. So
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: and you know, obviously you're still working. But for me,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: I learned that from my father, you know, as soon
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: as he retired. It's just he would always say he's
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: at peace. So I'm like, all right, well.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: Time to do it. Well he's at a piece. Then
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: he's ever been at peace.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: Even if you're the greatest and that ego is still there,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: it's only gonna take what probably a decade for a
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: generation to start kind of forgetting. Then you're like, do
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: these guys forgot what I did? If you're so tied
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: to that identity of being the best of all time?
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think your mind plays tricks on you,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 5: like this will sound stupid. I to this day, I'm
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 5: forty two. I never even played in the NFL, and
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 5: I'll watch a game be like I think I can
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 5: play like today, like if I if I'm really trained,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 5: like and that's a joke, but I guarantee you and
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 5: all the athletes like you're like if I just wake
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 5: up tomorrow and I get like, I think I could
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: get back to it, and then you work out hard
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 5: for like two days, You're like, let.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: Me stop you there. I've been we go to a
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: lot of games during the fall, and I'll watch warm
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: ups and I'm just like, how the fuck do people
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: do this? The more you're removed, like the callous leaves
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: and you're just like, you know, I get up and
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: I'm like I grab I see guys like block a
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: little bit. I grab my knee.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 5: I'm like, I don't know's it's It's a hard sport
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: on everybody, but big guys, it's really hard.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: If you watch the playoffs yesterday, you see Jayden Daniels
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: take that hit on the sidelines, It's like, what are
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: we doing on here?
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: Boys? I watched my kids like jump off the coffee table.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: I'm like looking at his knees.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: Mine my kids like bump their like or whatever. I'll
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: kind of like a seven.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when I was in Chicago on Friday, they played
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: pickup basketball in the afternoon, and I shoot you, now,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: bro Ran, I've been down the court three times and
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: my chest for the rest of the day, I'm like
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: hawking Logan's yeh. I'm like, man, yeah, it's It's not
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: that I thought it was never over, but it's for sure.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: Even waking up this morning, like, I still have some
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: inflammation on my knees just from playing pickup BASKETBA.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: That's what makes it so impressive about some guys who
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: took a year off and you never really see success
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: other than Trent Williams. Trent Williams the only guy I've
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: ever seen take a year off come back and be
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: the same, if not better than they were before.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's built different that Sorry to cut you off.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: That's what I felt when I was let go from
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: the Rams. It was March of COVID Denver in Seattle
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: called and they called it you know, a week one
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: of that next I guess the twenty twenty season, and
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: I had let myself, Like you said that callous, I
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: removed myself just a little bit, and deep down I
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: started well, I started filling in where I wasn't in
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: the kids' lives, you know, getting to school, picking them up, homework,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: whatever it may be. And I felt myself gravitating towards
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: that role and slipping whatever you'd like to call it,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: pushing football further away to where they would call and
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: you're just like, ah, man, this ain't so bad.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: On the other side, yeah, the manuy, you get a
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: couple of weekends to yourself and you see your team,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: Like I remember when it was the year I went
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: to Oakland, but my year before that, I was with
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: the Titans, and the Titans started off that's when that
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: was the whole AFC championship. You started off like losing
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: four in a row maybe, or you guys were two
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: and four. But I'm sitting there, I'm like, thank god,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: I don't got to go in tomorrow because the just
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: the bubble that you're in football wise, Like, thank god,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: I'm not about to get it viscerated by Rabel and
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: a team meeting.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: But I thought you were coming back though, with Braves
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: going over to New England.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: I might be there's a couple of calls, a couple
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: of conversations, maybe just the chemistry guy, locker room guy,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: just a strictly vibes guy. Yeah.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, stretches job, that stretches job. Take the track.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah that guy Glenny Balls eats ice cream.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're that just sitting in the corner of the meeting. Yeah,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: eat some food, taking his jokes extra hard. Yeah, you're
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: the funniest man. Yeah. He's at the team meaning you
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: get off under the desk, go ahead, coach.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 5: He's just like you just totally nailed, Like awesome, dude.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: No one can touch you, right yeah.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the fluffer. What was it like, Clay for you?
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: Like I was reading somewhere where you would have liked
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: to have finished in Green Bay, like the legacy that
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: you had in Green Bay. What was it like for
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: you going to the rams and you were just kind
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: of talking about the Denver in Seattle and your kind
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: of feeling you're kind of out of it, like coming
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: to coming to terms with your career.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I was disappointed in how my time in
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: Green Bay ended. So my contract was up after the
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: twenty eighteen season. I played, you know, I played out
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: two contracts and we we had a defensive coordinator. In
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: my first nine years, I was rolling. My tenth year,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: we had a new decordinate out of career low in sacks.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: But I knew I could still play, you know as
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: well everybody says that, but I'm like, I know I
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: can still play. I know it and get to the
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: quarterback him. Obviously they decided to go in a different direction.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: Would you play an inside a little bit more?
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, thats what I was the two thousand and fifteen
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: twenty sixteen season. Uh, and they obviously held that against
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: me when they say your sack numbers are down, I
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: was like, well, I just made two Pro Bowls and
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: I'll pro it inside linebacker.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: But of course, just bullshit, you had like sixty tackles
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: as an inside.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, grow did you see my impact?
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: Twenty fourteen were line back on.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: Swinging at the air that you have, not that we
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: were saying. We argued that we should have got in there.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: But how did this dude Clay Matthews just off his
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: name again?
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 5: Maybe if you grow your hair out, it takes discipline.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: A Yeah, twenty fourteen were the thirty first ranked run defense.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: That was the year we choked to Seattle on the playoffs,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: and then the second half of that season top five
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: when I moved inside.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, argue against Yeah, yeah, stand up, you're right Williams.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: I still got the ego.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: I still got the ego, but the impact I made it.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 5: He hasn't memorized that anything.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: I just know it. So they let me go, and
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: are they let me? You know, Hey, we appreciate all
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: you've done here. That's now.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: Are they communicating with you a lot?
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 9: Like?
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: No?
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: That's That's what I was disappointed with is you know,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: they had insinuated that they were going to bring me
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: back or at least, hey, you go out, you know,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: field some offers, we'd like to match it. And then
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: I find out on Twitter they signed Preston and Zadarius
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: Smith and I'm like, oh, well, you know, and so
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: they call, you know, a couple of minutes later, appreciate
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: everything you've done, you know, yeah, we'll see you down there.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: How enraged were you with that phone call? I?
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: I was kind of shook, you know, because I didn't
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: expect that. You know, we my wife, no, we were
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: all staying back there in the off season because there
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: was some uncertainty. We had our third child out there,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: and I thought I'd for sure be coming back, and
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: so that that was you know, I just It was
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: in all a little bit and I think a lot
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: of people, a lot of fans thought that I chose
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: to leave to go to LA being an LA kid
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: and whatnot. But the reality was, you know, at that point,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: and we're also four or five six days in the
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: free agency. So these coaches, these teams like, oh man,
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: I didn't know you know. They we thought you were
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: going to resign there. And so the Rams and the
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: Ravens were the two teams that reached out. And I
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: talked to Eric Weddle, he was with the Ravens, signed
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: with the Rams, and Rams were coming off the Super
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: Bowl from LA. Baltimore was offering a little bit more
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: money and they just came off a season with Lamar
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: had just been drafted. Let's just say they were eight
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: and eight. I'm like, oh man, this guy's not gonna
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: be any good. They're not eight. Jared goff In the ramsay, yeah, McVeigh.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: So I opted to go to LA. We didn't even
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: make the playoffs. They cut me loose. After year, Baltimore
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: went fourteen and two. They had like twelve Pro Bowl starters.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, MVC, I'm like, man, I'm talking about
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: a bad decision. But I really though twenty eleven we
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: went far teen and one in Green Bay. In twenty
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: nineteen my year in LA were two of my favorite years,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: So I can't speak disparagingly on the RAMS. I really
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: enjoyed my time there and playing with Aaron Donald, who
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: freed up so much for me. I mean, it was
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: the first time since my rookie year that I wasn't
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: double teamed anymore. And speaking of those stats, I was
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: top five and like rush win percentage with like Bosa
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: and TJ. Watton and year eleven. So but yeah, I mean,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know here was that twenty nineteen.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we didn't play because you would have gone against
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: handled probably.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: Unless it was the first six games, no nineteen.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the first six games PERSONA four.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we spend it.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah we we We played you once, although I didn't play.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: I was injured at the time.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: You guys just hey, when you were injured, I was like,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: thank god.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 5: You see you see the starters out, You're like game,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 5: especially when you got kicked out.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: He got kicked out. Ltroit guy on came across the line,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: he knocked over Mary.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we did a hard count. He he jumped
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: and he pushed Marcus down. You were not having that.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: Well, they the reps, weren't having you when they kicked
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: you out of the game.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: That I will say I was in. I was in
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: for four place and I was a part of still
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: sixty percent of Demarcolm Murraysey roast Yard. It's not a
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: big deal, but uh, I got objected from that game
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 4: because I'm looking at whoever that guy is and the
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 4: ref had his hand on my chest.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: But the rest risk that's right.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 4: You just like moved a hind and I'm like, he's like,
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: you're gone. You're out here, buddy. There is not a
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 4: lonelier feeling they're in that locker room. I had my
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 4: pants on that halftime still when they came in, and
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 4: I'm like in the corner, kind of like will would
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: be in Rape's meeting room if you went to the
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: past and they lost, like just kind of scared.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: Wow, shot, right, That's what I'm talking about.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: But that was Yeah, thank god we won that game.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: Thank god. I thought we were gonna get killed that game.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: I forget what happened. I think we we just didn't play.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: What year was that, sixteen? Yeah, sixteen sixteen sixteen sixteen, Yeah,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: ye to your own fans or to us.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: It was more of the refs, But it was just
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: a nice photo of me with one of those.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: What did you what was the Did you get a
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: fine for just getting injected or did you get to it?
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: I got a thirty thousand dollars fine for being injected,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: and I think it got rescinded though, because they're like, yeah,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 4: they shouldn't have ejected.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: You by the scaling and you got the victory, and
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: you did. It's just like fifteen games season to start.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 5: Yes, I got a lot of street cred, but I
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 5: already had that going on.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 4: That's the reason it was like my that was my year.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 4: I came on the scene a little bit. That's when
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: I had like my first Pro Bowl. Things were going
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 4: really well. We ended up going nine and seven after
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 4: going two and fourteen and three and thirteen, so that's
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: when they really started to go from me. A little
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 4: bit short lived, but it was still a nice couple
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 4: of years.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: I love how recently was their pods. There's like a
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: new story that we get to hear about with you,
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: which I mean just oh, yeah, you got injected. I
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: haven't heard that one you haven't heard. Yeah.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: The other good one was we it was preseason game.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: I was going to bring this up.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: This is my this is my welcome to the NFL moment.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, you can you tell that one. This
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: was a this was preseason, like several years later from
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: your rookie year. Maybe it's week three, week four.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: We're in We're in lambre Bay.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Lambeau and I still am good friends with. Of
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: course I'm blanking on his name right now. Kyler Kyler
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: fact Team, Kyler Kyler factro. He actually had eleven sacks
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen. But anyways, you were you you guys
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: were going at it in the first and he's an
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: LDS member, good old boy, you know more man, and
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: you were just laying into him. He comes to sideline,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: he's like, he's telling me to go fuck myself. Like
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: I was like, let's put that guy man, go get on,
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: trying to coach him up, like just running down his face.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 4: Pre season game. You had a you had a bucket
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 4: hat on a bunch of season out there.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: Don't you only bully you around?
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there is nothing more enjoyable than a fourth preseason
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: game just sitting with the boys do. Would they make
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: you wears sholder pets they worshoulder pats.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they would, they would. Some some would take it,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: like Charles Woodson would take it off but you know
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: later right exactly. But I had to keep it on.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: But yeah, that that was funny the story you told
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: me when yeah, talking about.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 4: We met at uh Thomas's charity event or his wife's
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 4: Love One charity event, and I was I literally like like, hey,
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 4: Clay Matthews here and I kind of like ran over
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 4: there like a little fan. We'd like talk for thirty minutes.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 4: It was that little brodown and uh yeah, my rookie year.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 4: It was like the third preseason game and I was
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 4: I was not a starter. Was Michael Roose as the starter?
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 4: But I was in in that bullshit? Uh not the
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 4: tight end but the wing. Not No, I'm sorry. I
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 4: was the tight end on field goal, which is the
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: worst position you can possibly be on ever in the
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 4: history of football. You just take three dudes to the
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 4: face constantly. But preseason I'm thinking I'm gonna be all right,
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 4: You're lined up on Michael Roose and like kind of
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 4: on his shoulder. Yeah, ruses down there ten year videos,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 4: Hey Clay go easy, and he just seees get the rookie,
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 4: and you really just watched Clay in a four point
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: stance shift over and I'm like, hey, what's going on here?
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 4: Ball snap dude takes me and there's not like a
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 4: couple guys on me. This is just Clay drives my
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 4: ass in the ground, doesn't doesn't say a word either,
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 4: and jogs off and I'm kind of like helt myself up,
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 4: Like damn motherfucker.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: I actually felt was like, no, not at the time,
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: I wasn't. I was like, I'm sorry for that, but
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: you know, you got to think like you probably just scored.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: I actually so I went home on man, I don't
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: remember that, but I remember it was pouring rain.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 4: It was, yeah, it was. I love that it affected
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 4: you enough because I kind of went home and I
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 4: told my life. I was like, I hope he feels
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 4: bad about it.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: I went home and I was like, I just didn't remember.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: I was like, I sprite. We put a preseason again.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: That's when Julius came out there to to Green Bay
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, I must have scored and I just
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: took it out on him.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 4: But no, it was Michael, it wasn't It.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: Was always actually rus because.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 4: I remember like seeing you and I'm there thing to
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 4: myself that those fucking forms are massive and they were
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: just vascular, and then all of a sudden the forums
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: got closer to me. And by the way, a lot
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 4: of hair on your arms, because I remember it vividly,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 4: and you just took my.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 5: Ass out, all right, well and put put me in
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 5: there working through this.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: Actually yeah, yeah, well I'm sorry for that. I apologize,
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: but in a way, it kind of it kind of
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: built you up a little bit, you know. Twenty sixteen
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  Speaker 2: Let's go back to USC. Yeah, you being a walk
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: on always blows my mind. I think it blows everybody's
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: mind that you were a walk on. When did did
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: you ever you earned a scholarship?
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: You never?
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: I never.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: In fact, I lied when I got to.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: Your first round pick, and you never earned scholars I.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: Didn't get one scholarship.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 5: So when I went to you, oh, Pete Carroll his
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 5: junior year, you were put on scholarship.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 7: Is that what you know?
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: He's asking me? Going it going to s I'm sorry,
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: are you asking out of high school?
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: Was I like? Yeah, I knew you were a walk
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: on a high school.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, did you ever earn your scholar clarifying idea, Yes,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: my red shirt my third year, my red shirt sophomore
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: year earn a scholarship. So I apologize, you're good about
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: to Yeah, I was just gonna get into it, but yeah,
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: I felt like I deserved one. After so, they they
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: have this you know, your g P A, I think
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: your team GP. I don't know if this is still
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: you know, with the nil and whatnot, has to be
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: a certain you know what a threshold. And so every
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: year they give scholarship to like fifth year walk on
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: to bring up the GPA of the teams. Mostly well,
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: you know, there would be like there's just be some guys.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: And I felt like after my first year, I felt
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: like I deserved a scholarship. It was kind of crazy
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: to think, but I felt like I earned it as
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: a post to the other guys were getting.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: It in the fashion of the way you performed on
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: the team.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: Well, I was red shirted, but going into that next year,
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: I was on kickoff and I think punt, so I
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: just felt like I had, you know, but I didn't
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: say anything. And then the next year, you know, they
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: kind of gave me one of the opening.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 5: So your third year, I guess.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: That'd be my restures sophomore year, reh fresher year. I
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: was just trying to keep my head above water. I
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: was I was like the scout team running back where
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: guys were tackling me. I was the pulling guard for
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: dns who were trying to spill it. I was like,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: this is this, hold up?
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 7: Hold up?
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 5: When I got to sc we had three practices today.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 5: These are three days, all right, And then heading into
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 5: like this was freshman soft more and it was really tough.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 5: And then there were a couple of athletes who passed
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 5: away that summer off season workouts. It was a guy
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 5: at Florida State. Then there was maybe an alignment and
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 5: the bikingkes and so the n CUAA switched, you know,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 5: changer with they regulated practice where you can't have more
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 5: than two practices a day, like two days in a row,
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 5: all right. So it started to get easier. But when
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 5: I got in his brutal this guy comes in right
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 5: after me.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: Get this.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 5: So he's he's gonna be a red shirt, is what
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 5: it is like. You know, he's a walk on, he's
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 5: gonna be camp fodder. You know, he gets down there
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 5: for like the first practice. Then they rule him ineligible
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 5: or something. He skipped the entire red shirt camp.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah what happened. Now, it was a clearinghouse. So I
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: had good grades, but some paperwork didn't get submitted because.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: I was actually have good grades.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, I got, I got. They sent me
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: home after a week, and like I said, that first
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: week was rutal because you know, you're like the man
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: in high school no matter where you went, and uh, man,
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: I just remember coming home telling my parents like I
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: wanted to quit. I was like, I want to be
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: closer at home, go to U C. L A and
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: all this stuff. And fortunately I didn't go back till
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: after Reggie. Uh we beat Virginia Tech and he that
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: was his heisman year two thousand and four when we
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: won the national championship. But I didn't go back to
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: week one of practice. So that honestly saved me because
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: I was, man.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 5: I was, I'm sitting there sitting in my cube, like
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 5: what he does have to practice the whole camp. I'm like, man,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 5: how does this guy get away with it?
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 4: A walk on, walk on freshman, They try to break you,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, summer you did summer workouts still, yeah, I I
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 5: you started coming.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: Down, yeah, you know, but I didn't have to. No, Yes,
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: I did do summer. I think I did summer. But
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: fall camp was like, you know, and especially understand which
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: I'm sure as you know, being a you know, high
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: were you highly recruited at high school?
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 4: And I mean I know I had like a crazy
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 4: come up my senior year, but I a scholarships American.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, to football. Well, but it's very it's
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: very clique, as you know, and so if you're a
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: walk on, and there's a negative connotation of walk on,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: so you're kind of putting this bubble with the frat
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: boys and whatnot. But I was, I was getting at earlier.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: I lied to some of these guys, like what scholarships
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: did you have? I picked the worst teams in the patch.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: I was like Arizona, Arizona State. I threw an Idaho,
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: you know. I was like, no one's gonna check it.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: So I kind of, you know, I fit in there.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: But then uh, yeah, you're in the top right at
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: Young Troy, right there in the front left, the.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 5: Holy White Boy.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: It's a good feeling.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I forgot. I'm on a tangent right now.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 4: You tell you're telling all the guys about the scholarships
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 4: you had. You picked the worst teams.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so no would check me and and I wouldn't.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: I feel better about myself. So that's that. But yeah,
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: I didn't get any scholarhip co of high school, but
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: I did obviously earn one when I was.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: Just to throw this out there, and Cayle, you can
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: help fact check me if I'm wrong here. But you
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: thought you deserved a scholarship after your red shirt you
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: sorryn't even go to red shirt training camp.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: No, not my red shirt my second year. I I apologize,
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: all right, Yeah, we've got it all.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what kind of stories like you played with Leonar
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: and Bush, like you hear all this stuff. He got
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: his heisman taken away for the things that would happen
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: heads a Kardashian. Yeah, under Pete Carroll's regime, he goes
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: off to Seattle. Do you have any stories? Yeah, man
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: about the l A.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 4: You know, like you guys, that's when like USC was
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 4: truly going legitimate celebrities like you were celebrities to the celebrities.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you go on rivals dot Com and you see
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: them in their gray T shirt cut off T shirts
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: working out, and you be that's the place. You see
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: that red that red wooden fence behind her. There were
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: there were three schools.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 4: I want to go to. USC was one of them.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 4: Just that was.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: Was that real quick.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 4: Oh nine would have been my freshman year. Oh nine.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 4: And as Pete was still there.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: Well, I know Tyron Smith was still there, but he
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: might have been like a junior or he.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 4: Got drafted on twenty eleven, twelve.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: I think I remember my senior year like these tackles
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: it was Khalil Khalil, uh Matt Khalil, and they were
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: so skinny and sunny. I'd come back and they're like
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: first round draft picks. Yeah.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 4: There was one guy I can't remember who's in my class.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 4: He was like the number five tackle. It was like,
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 4: I can't he he had a family like his dad
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 4: also put at USC. But I was like the I
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 4: was two fifty five. I was the way I am
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 4: right now. My senior of high school, like trying to
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 4: get scholarships on potential. This kid was like three ten already, Like,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 4: you know, this kid looks like he can play in
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 4: the league. I can't remember his name. I had a
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 4: huge vendetta against him my entire college career, as you should.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah till you keep the chip on the shoulder. Yeah,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 4: well big one or two guys.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and you just you create narratives in
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 5: your head, you know, yeah, whatever you got to do
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 5: to get yourself up in the morning. So you know,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 5: we I think you probably like me. We get this
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 5: question on what was it like, you know, la celebrities
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 5: paying players, Like I hate to disappoint at least my experience,
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 5: and I can't say I was you know, I was
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 5: boys with all those guys, like I can't necessarily say
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 5: I was running in the Hollywood circuit with Liner and
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 5: Reggie like that wasn't necessarily my vibes at the time
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 5: or ever, but uh it was. It was really a
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 5: credit to Pete carroll Man and a lot of the
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 5: company I run today. I founded almost a decade ago
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 5: and run I unbeknownst to me at the time, Like
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 5: I got to see a highly successful high performance organization run,
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 5: in my opinion, as good as it possibly can. Where
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 5: Pete created this insane level competition like iron sharpens iron,
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 5: full speed ones versus ones, every day in practice. But
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 5: then he did it in a way that was so
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 5: loose and so fun, lots of pranks, lots of celebrities
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 5: and just the master and and so that's really you know,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 5: you juxtaposed that versus a Nick Saban, and both are
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 5: insanely successful. They're very different, though, and Pete style, in
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 5: my opinion, you know, so many people tried to replicate it,
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 5: just not to the degree it was. It was a
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 5: lot of fun, he was.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: He was very.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 5: Transparent about competition. I'll tell you, I'll give you a story.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 5: So I'm sitting there, I'm sitting behind pull A Malu
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 5: for three years and then heading into my senior year.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 5: The way I saw it, we had the strong safety
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 5: pretty much settled, and I was a safety and the
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 5: safeties were interchangeable, so the other safety was open, and
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 5: you know, looking at the depth chart, like humbly speaking,
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 5: I felt good about my opportunity to potentially earn that spot.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 5: And then but they signed a five star freshman, a
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 5: long Beach poly Darnell Being who'd go on to have
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 5: a great career and became a good buddy of mine.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 5: But you know, I didn't know Darnell personally. When they
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 5: signed him, I'm like, oh crap, Like, here we go.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 5: So it's before spring, before the first practice you meet
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 5: as a team. You're in the big team meeting room
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 5: and Pete goes, hey, guys, okay, this spring we got
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 5: to get after it. Were just coming off you know,
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 5: a big BCS win like and he goes, but I
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 5: want you to understand the opportunity you, guys, as existing
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 5: players have, is the spring is your showcase because in
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 5: the fall, we're bringing the number one class in. They
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 5: had just signed it because signing days like February. Now
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 5: it's March springball. He goes, we're bringing the number one
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 5: class in and we are going to give them the
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 5: reps and give them the opportunity to beat you out.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 5: And so you need to take this time seriously because
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 5: you're not gonna have as big of an opportunity in
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 5: the fall. And just to drive home the point, you're
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 5: gonna sit here and for the next hour, we're gonna
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 5: put their highlights on film and you have to sit
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 5: here and watch all of your all of the five
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 5: star recruits are bringing in you guys, I am bringing
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 5: them in to take your job, and you're gonna sit
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 5: here and you're gonna watch their highchool highlights. So we
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 5: had to sit there for an.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: Hour tight in that meeting room.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 4: Oh my yeah god.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 5: So we had to sit there and you know, it's like, okay,
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 5: running backs. It was coming in Reggie Lendale. We had
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 5: a guy Chauncey Washington. It was really good running bay
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 5: you know, tight ends o lineman. And then it gets
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 5: the safety like it said, five star, number one in
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 5: the country, rivals number one in the country, this darnel
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 5: being long Beach Polly and I just sit there for like,
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 5: you know, five to six minutes and watch you guys highlights,
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 5: and I'm just sitting there like fuck this motherfucker, like
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 5: you yeah, fuck like because that like when you're in
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 5: that like alpha dog, hyper masculine society that is college
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 5: football or any football, Like it's it's kind of like
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 5: a fighter's mentality. I'm gonna kill this guy, and like
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 5: that's that's what he was doing. It was all Pete
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 5: was so good at the psychological part. And so you
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 5: know the answer to your question really is like I can't.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 5: I don't have any As far as I know, there
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 5: weren't like alumni handing out money or anything, at least
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 5: not to me, not to you like but but but
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 5: it was the way Pete ran the program. It was
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 5: so intense, it was so high speed, full speed one verse.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 5: Once he would he would like proactively tell you you
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 5: are competing with him, And yet he did it in
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 5: a way that there wasn't there wasn't open ANIMOSITI. I
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 5: never looked at Darnell or Troy like I hate you know,
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 5: those are my those are my guys. Those were my boys,
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 5: you know, and I and I do the best I
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 5: can to take that and apply it to the company
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 5: I get to run.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: You could talk about you know, celebrities and what not
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: coming out like I think, you know, Kyle graduated right
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: when they were peaking, and you know, the celebrity was
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: coming in, so like Snoop Dogg would come in and
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: drop it like it's how we had a guy freestyle
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: with him in the front, Will Ferrell come in as
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: Ricky Bobby. You know, we had all these guys coming
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: in on the sideline and and whatnot. It kept a
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: loose environment, but you know, kind of like Kyle alluded
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: to it also that what he demanded from us as well.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: He made it very clear and some of my fondest
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: memories are are just the stretching lines. You know, We'd
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: have Ken Norton and Lane Kiffin and they'd be arguing
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: at each other and and Sarkisian was there, mss why
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: Ed Ozeron was there? But that you know, uh Ken Norton, Ken,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: because it wasn't just the players. Ken Norton would be saying, Laine,
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: only reason why you got a job is because your daddy.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: And then Lane would be yelling back, your daddy got
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: knocked out by Ali and he said, my daddy, my
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: daddy broke all these and it was like but and
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: then we went straight into nine on seven, straight in
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: the nine on seven. But like, like I said, there
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: was no animosity. You know, It's like you could tell
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: there was that friction, but it was there was It
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: was always competition. That's every meet and every it was
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: all about competition.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 5: And Pete while he was a player's coaching that he
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 5: is fun like, he was a killer man. He was
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 5: a businessman and like and if you got in the
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 5: way of his program, guys would disappear man like, they
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 5: would get out. I remember because back then there was
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 5: no transfer portals, nothing, and again, this is my opinion.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 5: I can't prove this is like when Pete came in
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 5: because I actually my freshman year I was with Paul
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 5: Hackett and then Pete came in and all of a sudden,
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 5: like guys started disappearing off the roster. He would go
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 5: to him and say, hey, listen, and this is what
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 5: I heard. So I'm just is like, hey, you're never
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 5: going to play here, and so you could do one
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 5: or two things. You can transfer out, we'll sign your
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 5: papers like see you later year off. Right, Well, if
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 5: you transferred, you had to take give or what he
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 5: did was he went to guys like, hey, you had
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 5: of shoulder injury, out of knee injury, like you're recovering,
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 5: will medical you, but will like walk you into the
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 5: grad school program. Like cause like he came in, He's like,
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 5: how do I turn this roster around? And I can't
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 5: wait to do it. Fifteen to twenty scholarships at a
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 5: time and my first year thirty five forty guys like
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 5: got cycled through the program at a time that it
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 5: wasn't as liquid as it is today, like where guys
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 5: can just come in and out. I mean nowadays, coach
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 5: are going like, hey, you should transfer because we're not
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 5: going to play you and go somewhere else. So he's
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 5: he's a killer and you respect that. But he did
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 5: it in a way that just, you know, really some
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 5: of the fondest memories of my life. Like what I
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 5: don't know, I'd be interested to ask you guys at question,
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 5: like what do you miss more like playing football or
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 5: the locker room?
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 5: Was I missed the locker room? That's what I really miss.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: The locker room is commercials.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I see Peyton Manning's autograph. There was before J. J. Watt.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: It was me on the defensive side.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the uh you brought? You bring up Pete Carroll
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 4: how like Stern he was in hardcore he was, but
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 4: how he made it fun like he seemed like a
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 4: guy that he like made the like the basketball hoop
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 4: in the team meeting room made that famous. Like what
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 4: were some of the things he did to keep it
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 4: Like because my short time I got to me, I
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 4: went to a junior camp at USC and it was
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 4: like I saw him in the first time I met him.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 4: He gives me a hug and I'm like, this guy's
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 4: the fuck. He just had that energy.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 5: He's just built different. He has energy that I don't have,
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 5: and like he just I think he was born that way.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 5: That is not an act, Like he is a high
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 5: energy positivity guy. I'll I'll give you some examples, and
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 5: maybe it changed by the time Clay got there. Like
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 5: you know, it's the middle of camp and you're you know,
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 5: you're what are the twenty eight days in camp and
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 5: it's day eighteen, Like you're just in the shit, right
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 5: and your your body's banged up and you're going hard,
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 5: and Pete's like, hey, like, you know, for practice in
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 5: the morning, practice in the afternoon. So at the end
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 5: of the first practice he I don't know if he
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 5: manufacturing really felt like this, but it was supposed to
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 5: be full pads in the morning, like shells in the afternoon,
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 5: so full pads, and you know, at the end of practice,
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 5: he's like that was a bullshit pro don't like the energy.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 5: This is bs like just ripping us, you know which, again,
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 5: that wasn't normally his go to sow. He did it
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 5: more than probably the normal fans would think, but like
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 5: it was like and maybe we were dragon asks, so
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 5: we get He's like, you know what, because we're going
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 5: full pads this afternoon, hitting drills, tackling, live everything. We're like,
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 5: oh no, and so he brings us out. In the
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 5: second practice, we start doing the stretch lines and he
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 5: like calls us up and he goes, guys like I
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 5: need to be able to trust you, and I'm paraphrasing
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 5: I need to be able to trust you, Like I
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 5: was not happy with this. So I'm gonna give you
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 5: an option. Either we go hard and like do this
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 5: the right way, or we get on some fucking busses
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 5: and go to the beach. And there are busses lined
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 5: out right outside practice, and we all get on the
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 5: bus in our full pads and go to Manhattan Beach
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 5: and go to the beach.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: That day like yeah, movies, We go watch the beach
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: volleyball man and just stuff in the meeting room too.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: I can't remember why, but we always were shooting water
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: up in there, guys taking their shirts off, swinging them around.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know why, but like we just that was
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: it every meeting. Hey, they always call people up to
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: make fun of other people, like what you do with raves,
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: Like I always they called me up. All that's because
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: I was just the walk on it the time, like
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: nobody and then you know, like they would call people
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: up to make fun of others. They do one on
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: ones watching people get cooked or whatnot up, so like
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: they always promoted that environment.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 5: I'll get you on that team meeting, so like we
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 5: might have to cut this just because I like this guy,
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 5: but we would come in, we would destroy him.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, we're having fun.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 5: We would come in and like to Clay's point, like
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 5: there is this It started my sophomore junior or like
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 5: the meeting room coach O was getting mad about something
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 5: and he smashes a projector with his fist and like
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 5: these are projectors, Like I'm getting old here and he
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 5: smashes it and throws it, and then like we're getting hyped.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 5: So Kennedy Pola, this big salmon running back coach, he
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 5: played running back, just awesome guy. Like he takes a
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 5: chair and throws it through this window because they're like
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 5: Florida ceiling windows like twelve feet tall and throws it
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 5: through the window and we're sitting like what has happened?
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 5: So then that became kind of like whenever they felt
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 5: like we would just start getting hyped and throwing water
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 5: and so Kennedy pulled the start of the thing, like
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 5: what's the first thing you do before you get in
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 5: a fight? You know, it's like take your shirts up.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 5: So everyone takes their shirts off. We start like pushing
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 5: each other and like.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 5: And then he's like, then there's this chance, like wartime,
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 5: it's time to go to war, like we're gonna take
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 5: it outside, Like what do you do? You take your
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 5: shirt off? Like let's go outside. We're about to get
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 5: in a fight. That was our chant like back when
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 5: we were winning. I don't think it is anymore. You know,
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 5: Lincoln might need to bring it back, but my point
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 5: is so then, so he started getting more hyped, and
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 5: every every meeting got more and more hyped. It wasn't
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 5: you know to eventually like you took your shirt off,
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 5: like everybody's taking their shirts off. And then we had
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 5: a linebacker coach Coach Holt Nick Hole, he was your coach.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 5: He ended up going to coach Idaho for a minute.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 5: He got so hyped up. One time he took his
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 5: shirt off in front of the whole team. Then he
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 5: took his pants off, all of it, underwear, no shit,
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 5: and he's jumping around butt ass naked.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 4: Everyone's like, yeah, let's fuck whoa.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 5: And like he's like, what too too much? It's like
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 5: dog but they like and it was like what just happened?
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 4: He was grown man, he just.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 5: He just he got into that like mannic alpha where
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 5: he went.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 4: Barely legal kids. Yeah, and I was like, all right,
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 4: Like after that.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 5: We we we agreed there was there was a limit
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 5: to the high we gotta draw.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 4: Was the next meeting Peter Klby like, hey, we can
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 4: get excited, but let's keep our world.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 5: Probably like Pete had a great way to roll with it.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 5: But that's when I was like, all right, this place
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 5: is crazy, dude.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 2: What happened?
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 5: It was just it was just next level and then
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 5: uh then Nancy double A came in and killed it.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 4: So did you ever go to Reggie Bush's house in
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 4: Malibu in college?
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 9: No?
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 5: I did not.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 4: Did he have a house in alb I think that's
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 4: what he had that he had cars? Story agen The only.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: Thing I got, honestly, I never saw I never saw money,
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: you know, I've never seen any of that. But uh,
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: I got two free RB's roast beef sandwiches in the valley.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: That was the only thing I got in my five
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: years at s C, I got nothing. So all this stuff,
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: where are these guys getting? They get free, you know,
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: Redace hundreds of thousand of dollars. I just maybe I
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: was just have my head in the sand, but that
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: went over mine.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't even say, arguably the best linebacker room of all.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 4: Time, of all time.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 5: Facts you Ma Lugava.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we went Keith that senior class. Yeah, and then
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: what Keith was older was a year He was a
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: year older, so he went ninth though, but I was
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: even there. Lofa was second round. But yeah, my senior
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: year was me and Cush went first round and Ray right,
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: he should have gone, well, you're supposed to go first.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: And then Mayava went fourth to the Browns. We had
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: a good I think we finished first, first, second, second
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: and all the postseason lads and whatnot.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, had phenomenal. Chris had a great career, even
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 5: Koluka like he started he was playing six seven years. Yeah,
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 5: I think baby old or something. Yeah, that's what it was.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 5: But that was a great team.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 2: How was I was cush in college because he seems
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 2: like he was my favor He's my favorite Jersey boy.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: He was my favorite.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 4: You just have that thing. And when they're playing the
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns and he runs face first and the officsive
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 4: lineman face blood full or Facebook.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: We would be in like coaching Norton with Ken Norton,
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: be you know, in meetings and it'd be like lunchtime
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: and I'd need like a turkey burger with fries, trying
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: to be healthy, and this guy like you know or something,
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: and then you see his little watch go off, click it,
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: reach underneath out, pull out his like customized meal and
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: pills and whatnot. He was just he was dialed in.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: But I love that guy. He's still one of my
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: best friends, says Dad. I wish we could have played again,
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: still keeping touch, but yeah, he was a monster, and
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: I think he helped elevate that room because of his
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: Jersey tough mentality. He was about he was about that,
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: like he was.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 4: About that actually yea, yeah.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah he and Clay knows him super well. But
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 5: like I was thinking, the last time I hung out
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 5: with Cush, we were in Miami and we're down there
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 5: for the Pro Bowl. Clay's in the Pro Bowl and
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 5: so we're me, Clay, my brother Casey, and Cush. We're
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 5: out and we're having a good time. But it's like,
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 5: you know, like it's like midnight one am. Like I'm
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 5: getting tired, man, We're like grown ups. And Coach like,
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 5: come on, Like we're in Fort Lauderdale, which is about
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 5: an hour north of Miami. Coach like, let's go to Miami.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 5: There's a there's a party at a club Miami. My
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 5: teammates from the Texans. Andre Johnson is from Miami. He's
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 5: throwing a party over this.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: It was we were the only white police.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 4: Were outside.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 5: We're outside this club. We're with Uh it was Ray Lewis,
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 5: it was a Dan Hendo Henderson. We're sitting outside and
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 5: I'm like, no, dude, let's go do I'm tire, Like
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 5: go home, like no, come on, like what do I
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 5: gotta do? And I swear to god you look down
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 5: and I don't know that in the curve there was
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 5: a one dollar bill in like a dirty curt like
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 5: in like gutter water. And I was like, you eat
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 5: that one dollar bill and Cush is like what. I
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 5: was like, eat that one dollar bill. We'll go to Miami.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 5: So Cush rolls up, he eats a gut like a
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 5: gut or water one dollar bill and he goes. I
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 5: was like, Miami.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 4: So we go down to Miami. Hold up, that's better.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 2: We go down.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 5: We don't really understand the context of this party. So
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 5: we roll in. It's a nightclub Andre Johnson, and the
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 5: entire you is throwing it in like you know, like
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 5: Coral Gables or Brickle or somewhere down there. And we
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 5: walk into Clay's point it look this is not you know,
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 5: it's like, well the only white dudes there and like,
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 5: which is finely Like We're like, oh, this is fun,
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 5: and Cushing we go up. They have a table for us.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 5: We're you know, we're wapping up some people.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 2: We know.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 5: Cush disappears years over there.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: Mario Williams dapping them up in the middle of the
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: two in.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 5: The dance floor, so listen, we have so they're just
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 5: down there, so hold on, hold on, it gets it
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 5: gets better.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 4: Left. Yeah, this is a Cush story. So like again,
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 4: like Clay, you.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 5: Made the decision. If we edit this out. I think
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 5: this makes it. I think this makes it look makes
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 5: them look even better. But he disappears and they're bringing
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 5: bottles and bottles and bottles. We're not drinking, like it's
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 5: again now it's two three am, and like the Matthews
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 5: were like, let's go home. Well anyway, all of a sudden,
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 5: we're like, hey, we're gonna havead ou He's like, well,
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 5: who's paying for this bill? And it's like this is
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 5: ten thousand dollars? Like what anyone else? It's Cushing. So
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 5: Cushing had left his credit card on the table.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: That's fine.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 5: Cush had like a twenty five hundred dollars limit on
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 5: his credit card. Boys, I got this any worry, Like
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 5: he's disappeared, he has his credit card, can't pay for anything,
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 5: and we're like we're not paying for it, and like
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 5: they're like, someone's paying for it. And so finally we
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 5: got the guy to Andre Johnson comes over, it's his party.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: I think it was like his somebody I got it.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 2: I got it.
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 5: And then we always said hey to Andre Johns, you
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 5: got to go track Cush down to get the money.
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 5: And he got the money.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 4: But like that was cause was Cush.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: Oh he just disappeared. He just disappeared. He was down
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: there amongst the crowd, just where he was. Cush told
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: me the story. He said like, yeah, yeah, I got you.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: And then like it was like a month later and
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: somebody rolled up on me. You had to like running ship, Yeah,
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: hey you got that money.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 5: Somebody rolled up and was like, hey, like where's the money? Yeah,
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 5: you know Cush is is that guy that's not an act?
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 5: Like he's a savage.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 4: You know, he had to be crazy.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: I mean it was my entire motivation inspiration, like in
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: my high school days, like my dad and my dad
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 2: was pretty psychotic with me as a kid. But you
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: were the walk on story Cush. I had to do
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 2: all my dad would buy all the DiFranco tapes. I
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 2: would have to do all the Franco method that Cush
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: would do. I mean, Cuss got that you know, diabolical
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: before and after photo with when he was going through
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 2: labor and surgery, and then all of a sudden, he's
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: like flexing with you. You guys are both flucked in
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 2: the classroom. And then Rave Malugu was my lock screen.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: So I was all sc linebackers, Why didn't you go there?
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 2: I wasn't good enough. I didn't get an offer.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: What year was that?
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: Eight was the classic? And I think that was I
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 2: think that was Tyron Smith? Is Tyron Smith?
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: What lineback? Who was like Chris Capo or who?
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because my.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 2: Brother he was a five star.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my brother came out. Uh he might have been
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: like a three or four star, my younger brother and
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: sea Yeah, well I don't know was there. Well anyways,
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: eight they passed on him, and uh so he went
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: up to Oregon and obviously Organ had played in the
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: National Championship ever losing to Cam Newton. But after like
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: the first year, did you brother want to transfer back
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: to USC You missed?
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: You missed the boat was supposed to keep in the family.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 4: What he is doing. I have a vivid memory of
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 4: It's like week six or seven, No, probably the first
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 4: couple of weeks of my rookie year. And I'm not
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 4: starting but I'm watching Ray Montoluga on the Bengals, and
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 4: we had a whole game plan of like, hey, we
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 4: got hit the perimeter on these guys. So we were
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 4: watching a b of pin pool things with tackles going out,
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 4: and there's a clip from the Ravens where Ray did
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 4: not give a fuck about making the tackle. He was
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 4: just murdering and left right then. And I sat in
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 4: that me room, I was like, I pray to God,
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 4: nobody gets he was playing.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: As a as a freshman at at USC. They put
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: him on kickoff like L five R five. He run
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: down there, biggest head ever too, and neck and he
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: would just just lead with his head and just knock
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: pel out and he would just get up. I mean
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: he was like you would think he was just straight
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: from the island, like you brought him over like like
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: Maui you know Demi.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: God, Yeah, he was like before this, like when we
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 2: were talking about my Luga. His body like everybody has
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: like a reaction when they're making a big hit, like Ray,
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: his body just always stayed so compact. Yeah, his body
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: never moved when he made a big There's no like people.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was just a.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: Really stout Yeah, he would Yeah, he would have been perfect.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: He probably could have lied. I mean still played for
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: several years, but he probably you know that rate, you know,
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: late nineties early two thousand generation of inside linebackers who
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: just needed to run downhill? Yeah that man, that that
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: h u s. The U c l A highlight that
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: just popped up right there right now is yeah, we
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: ended up I think losing this game. We would have
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: gone to the National Championship.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 5: But that quarterbacks in real estate, he reached out all
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 5: the time. I think his murdering. So his name is
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 5: Patrick Cowan. I think he's done well in real estate,
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 5: so well reach out and it's like, man, how's your head?
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: Sage Killer? Is that that running back? Three bar face
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 2: mass too?
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 4: That Robal? Is that true hate Week?
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: Honestly, they haven't been that unlike Michigan Ohio State. You guys,
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, you like have had so much sustained
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: success that U c l A has kind of. At
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: least when I was there, they had fallen off completely.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: They weren't even a top twenty five I think my
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: first year two thousand and four, they were like a
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: like a teen's team, maybe top ten but I think
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: we beat on like seventy to something that was like
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: Reggie Bushes I had secured his heisman, but it was
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: it was fun, but it always felt like the second
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: tier of of like a bath went to U c.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 9: L A.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: Now that's obviously changed because they're both kind of right
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: at least at this point that mediocrity, but at the time,
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: like it was more Notre Dame, and to be honest,
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: was so good. At the time, it was whatever the
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: best team wants national team.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was the best team was like we can't
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 4: wait Sahoma.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, brutal before instant replayed Vince Young.
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: You you you were in I was. I was in
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: the Vince Young one.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 2: You were in the Vince Young one? Oh yeah, because
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 2: that was that was like it.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: Was five seasons. Yeah, it's just it's tough. Yeah, but
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't like, yeah, it wasn't that difficult for maybe
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: because I was just on like two special teams. Just
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: to I may be completely candid, it sucked. But the
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: next year we played Michigan. Michigan was I just go aheading.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: The story Michigan was was rolled like they had a
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: man blanket on the left long heart Manningham Henny, Yeah,
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: and uh beat them up pretty good. And then the
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: next year we're up pretty good. Illinois, we got after them.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: And then last year was Joe Paterno's Penn Stay we
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: played in.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: For Illinois was at the Rose. You guys crushed a
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 2: big game on that one too.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there was a period. Yeah, there's a period there
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 5: against the Big ten and the sec where and in
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 5: fact checked me, I don't think we lost for like
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 5: six seven years, you know, outside of Texas and the
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 5: Big twelve. Like I know, my senior year we went.
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: Down to Auburn and rolled in the Habraska.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 5: To Auburn had Cadillac Williams.
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: N uh.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 2: My official visit to Nebraska is when you guys, you
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: guys came to Nebraska, it's like forty eight to I
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 2: remember seeing.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: It was that two eight. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: started that game. I broke my thumb and had to
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: come out. Dude.
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 2: It was down there, Nebraska. Yeah, they killed us. Obviously
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 2: we had thirty one, but forty twenty one of them
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 2: were in the fourth quarter, so that the guys, like
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 2: I remember seeing Taylor Mays pre game, Taylor Mays just
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: staying in.
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 5: Taylor game, just a SC won half their games before
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 5: the games just because of Taylor.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: Is like what Ron ron Zuck was the head coach
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: of Illinois at the time. He was our special teams
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: coach for a few years in Green Bays. And we
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: when we when we took the field and you guys
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: are out there, it was over.
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 2: It was over.
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: It was over. Like we we were just in awe,
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: you know, and that was it.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 4: God, the unis like dude, I can't imagine walking off
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 4: the bus and just feeling like that, like we just
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 4: look better, we are better. We're going to destroy everything.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 7: But that was that was that.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 5: That was that swag at s C for a period
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 5: of seven eight years and like respectfully, like it's been
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 5: such a long time, Like I'm just like I'm tired
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 5: of talking, like, hey, when we did this.
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 4: Because because well, what's what's missing now at SC? Do
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 4: you think, Carol?
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 5: I think no, all right, I'm going to answer this question.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 5: So in my opinion, and I'm not the most educated.
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 5: I you know, I'm connected to the program. I try
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 5: and help them in terms of given athletes advice post
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 5: playing days and you know, how to make sure you
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 5: set yourself up, not just financially and hire good financial advisor,
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 5: but actually, you know, be articulate and ideally fluent in
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 5: the financial language. You know, it's not just about hiring
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 5: good people to manag your money, it's being able to
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 5: manage those managers. I think the game of college football,
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 5: the dynamic, especially with NIL, has changed so fast, and
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 5: there's some programs like Oregon or Ohio State. Again I'm
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 5: not I think Michigan. Is Michigan a great NIL like
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 5: because because I understand Michigan, like they really did a
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 5: great job with Harbaugh developing three four five year guys.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 5: Now they're NIL.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 4: I think it's like like this year and last year,
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 4: like the first like two years were really feeling like real,
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 4: real money going into Okay.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 5: But you guys didn't win the Natty. Last year. I
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 5: felt like it was mostly homegrown players. But the game
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 5: has shifted so much, and I think there are programs
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 5: that have really like stayed ahead of that, and I
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 5: don't think SE is that And I blame if I'm
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 5: gonna blame it, I blame the culture of the school
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 5: because there's still PTSD from the sanctions, and I think
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 5: they're very like it's scared of your own shadow. They
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 5: don't want to do anything without the NCAA saying you
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 5: can do this, which is like formal opinion letter submit
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 5: can we do this? While other schools it's not that
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 5: they're breaking the rules and maybe not even playing by
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 5: the rules. There are no rules right now, and so
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 5: there's other schools like we're just gonna do this and
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 5: like it's better to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission.
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 5: Sc UP until recently has been like no, we need
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 5: to make sure we ask for permission, so we're always
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 5: a year or two behind. My hope is that the
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 5: administration is being more aggressive with NIL and all that.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 5: I don't I can't say state put that as a
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 5: statement of fact. That's just like from what I can tell,
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 5: like quasi connected to the program?
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 2: Does that make sense?
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Ye, it makes a lot of sense.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: We have my opinion now. I just I think, like
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: I mean strictly from a football standpoint, like x'es and o's.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: I think it's like a mentality thing. I mean, obviously
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: there's some there was weaknesses in the O line and
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: D line last year. When you've seen you know, Miller
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: Moss getting sacked so much. I don't think he was
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: the problem. They ended up benching him like three quarters
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: of the way through the season. But I think they
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: need some more athletes. But you know, these guys are great.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: You know that they've been bringing in and you know
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley and offensively what Caleb Williams was able to
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: do the last I guess the previous two years.
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 5: They got a really good decordinator.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: Now, yeah, it's truly remarkable your top three, but you
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: know that year where they lost to it was a
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: Utah when they should have gone to the playoffs at
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: that time. I don't know if it's just like a
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: because Pete had that that culture, you know, that that
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: hard ass culture, And I don't know if it's just
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: all x's and o's and putting up fifty every game
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: as opposed to you know, do you want a defensive
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: minded head coach or do you want offensive mind a
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: head coach?
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 2: And I think you guys are closer because even though
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 2: you guys lost what five games this year, they weren't
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 2: you guys were like one score games most of the time. Yeah,
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 2: we did.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 5: I think they're close. Like again, Dan tunneln is the
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 5: decoordinator came from the Ravens. Like if you just look
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 5: at the statistical improvement, and respectfully, like me, Clay, my dad,
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 5: we're on a text chain like sometimes when ST's playing, like.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 4: We'll be like this defense.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 5: But this was the first year where like the text
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 5: messages weren't about the defense, right, So I think the
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 5: defense is getting better. To Clay's point, they really need bodies,
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 5: They need the big guys. They always have athletes. Look
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 5: at the receivers in the NFL.
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: Like you know, that's why whenever they play like an
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: SEC team or Big ten, they always get bullied to
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: look at in the trenches, you know, but they'll put
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: up like I said, thirty five, forty two point whatever
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: it is. But it's just that you know, they'll they'll
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: those those teams will run it down.
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 5: And if you look at the old SC teams, like
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 5: back when Clay and I played, that were that were
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 5: winning every game. The Reggie's, the lineups, all those guys
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 5: got the hype. But actually if you look at the
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 5: guys they put in the league, it was O lineman,
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 5: D linman linebackers, right, And so I think I'm very
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 5: optimistic about Lincoln. I think he gets he knows what
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 5: he has to do. There is a reality in college ball,
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 5: like you can know what you have to do. You
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 5: could say, hey, I'm going to go out and do it.
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 5: But nowadays it's it's money, right, And if you don't
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 5: have an nil war chest, like you're just not going
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 5: to be competitive. Like kids don't. Most kids don't sign
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 5: up for the uniform anymore.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 5: It's like, even if they grew up an SC fan,
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 5: if they have a big freshman year, they're going to
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 5: get a phone call from Ohio State saying hey, or
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 5: Georgia saying like, hey, why don't you come here and
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 5: I'll pay you a million bucks a year. They're not like, sorry,
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 5: I'm an SC guy. They're like, they go to SC,
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 5: how much you're gonna pay? I think I think nil?
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 5: Well nil. Wise they've figured it out. But like, I
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 5: don't know, Yeah, college football is better when when SC
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 5: the Notre Dames, the Michigan's Nebraska.
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: Nebraska is in the top twenty two.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 5: Nebraska speaking in that top twenty five NCAA football is
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 5: better when Nebraska's you know, nine to four, not six
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 5: and six.
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 4: Well, every year they've gotten one one game better.
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 2: You guys only beat it because of a passer in
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 2: appearance call at the end.
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: I don't think I watched that. That was a twelve
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: o'clock game.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 2: You're only probably feel for the propriety. I'm screaming at
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 2: the TV over BI calls. You guys keep up with.
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 4: College or NFL more like, as far as just enjoying it.
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 2: For me, NFL, yeah, yeah, you're not a big sc guy.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm a huge SEE guy. But I'm
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: just saying, like it's it's hard to you know, with
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: the success I guess the lack of success or what
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: we're accustomed to see in But no, I sit down.
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: My wife knows like Sundays are are my day. Like
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: I worked to about twelve o'clock and around the house
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: cleaning up, you know, making banana red, and then I'm
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: then I sit down clock. Yes, sure, and but no,
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: I really enjoy the NFL as far as watching it,
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: and because I felt like I don't know how it
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: is for you at Lineman you as well, Like I
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: felt like my mind at the end of my career
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 1: was just so tuned in and natural. They always tell
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: you this, like I was just and I was like,
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 1: when I went to the Rams, Chris Shulo, who's now
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator, he was my linebackers coach, but we
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 1: might as well have been the same as far as uh,
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: you know, on the same page and being peers and whatnot.
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 1: And so I just felt like the way I was
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 1: able to give back teach these guys who were playing
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: behind me at the time, like my mind was just
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 1: so far advanced. And of course that's the time I'm
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: pulling the plug on you. Now, all I gotta do
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: is sit at the TV and be like, I guys
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: got to do this. But I enjoy the NFL still.
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 4: Dude, I hear what you're saying. With watching the games,
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 4: that's kind of turns me away from the NFL a
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 4: little bit more because I'll watch the games and I'll
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 4: get so caught in the offensive line of what they're
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 4: doing that I'm not really enjoying it as opposed to
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 4: I'll watch like college football, whether it be Michigan or
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 4: any other team. It's like the offices are so different
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 4: and the talent levels so different, and the mistakes are
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 4: so much more often, so it's kind of more fun
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 4: to see these massive, explosive plays, guys being out of
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 4: their gaps. It's like I enjoy that more. I enjoy
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 4: watching the mistakes.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: I will say though, like the Who, I don't know
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 1: if it was like Chargers Texan. That was just to me,
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: that was a background noise game. But like when La
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: Mar comes on and sa Quon, I feel like I
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: tune into the superstar like Jamar Chase Burrow, Like there's
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 1: guys mahomes who I will watch the whole game start
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: to finish, But I feel like that's just a select
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 1: maybe you know, eight ten teams there.
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 4: How bad did you want the Bengals to get?
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, absolutely, the Bengals are so yeah, they're super
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 1: every year. They're dangerous. They obviously gave away too many
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 1: games early on, but the way Burrow played at the
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 1: end obviously, I mean he won't win MVP, but he,
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 1: based on his stats very well could and Jamar Chase
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 1: it was fun to watch.
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 5: I was gonna, yeah, he watches more football than I
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 5: just obviously close to the game. But I was gonna
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 5: say most of the most of the sports we get
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 5: together and watch the UFC, Like yeah, because again with
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 5: the four kids, the three kids, and then I got
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 5: my work life. During the week, there's not as much time.
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 5: So for me to take a Saturday Sunday and park
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 5: it and say like, hey, you know it's not my job.
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 5: It wasn't my career the way it is his. So
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 5: I get that for him. But for me, you know,
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 5: the deal I have is like, hey, you get the
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 5: kids to bed on a Saturday night at a thirty,
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 5: like that's when the UFC comes on. So nor I
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 5: normally will get together with my brother Casey.
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 1: And like we'll we'll talk about what we would have
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 1: done differently, how should have defeated You know, I told
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 1: Taylor when when I first saw Taylor, because I was
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 1: so like I just, I guess envious of like how
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 1: close you were to Dana and how you were there.
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 1: I'm like, man, because in twenty nineteen, when I stayed
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 1: in Green Bay with my contract up in the air,
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 1: there was no sports on it this time, and the
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 1: UFC was this only thing that came on pretty much
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 1: every week. So I started tuning in and all of
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 1: a sudden, I see a fighter. I saw a fight
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 1: three months ago fighting. Oh okay, I remember that guy,
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 1: and so I probably haven't missed a fight night, a
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 1: pay per view, you name it, and since twenty nineteen, do.
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 4: You watch this past weekend since he durn Yeah, I
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 4: watched it. Yeah, dude, maybe the best slate of fights
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 4: in a long time. There are like three knockouts.
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 1: Well it was. I didn't watch it all. I watched it.
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 2: I watched it.
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 5: I usually I used it six years except wow.
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 1: When I saw when I saw like, oh the main
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 1: card was, I was like, all right, But then you
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 1: know there was there was there were some good there
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 1: were some good fights on it. But I'm looking forward
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 1: to this weekend coming up here.
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 4: There was this one dude who was just getting pumbled
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 4: on for a minute, and you thought he was about
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 4: to get knocked out, and he just threw a straight
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 4: right in the chain. Dude was out for like a minute.
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 4: I saw that to the point where like everyone's like
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 4: clapping here and there was like what's going on here?
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 2: It was nuts.
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 5: We're like that meme you sent me to mean the
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 5: other day, like that fat guy on a couch with
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 5: the bob, why did he shoot the single la?
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 2: It makes no sense, dude.
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 4: Those are just fucking like Michael Chandler, He's just what
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 4: five six just built like a pit bull, and he
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 4: is terrifying. We had we had a beer Olympics and
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 4: me and Will are wrestling Shane and Burt and they
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 4: call for Mike and Mike gets a hold of my
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 4: heel and I'm like borderline drowning in the pool, Like
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 4: I'm like praying to God, like please let me up,
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 4: because it's about to be over for me. He's just
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 4: they're just different breaths of humans.
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 1: Mike's fun to watch ever since he came on the scene.
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 1: I remember because just a yeah, I remember him talking.
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 1: He did like a he backed up one of these fights.
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know who it was. He was ready to go,
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 1: and then he fought Dan Hooker and I was like, man,
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 1: it's good looking, he's articulated, he's champion from whatever it was,
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 1: and he came over here, had immediate success. But even
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 1: in his losses, he's fun to watch.
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 2: This is Mike.
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 4: He gets my heel here, watched my head of the
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 4: setting in. I was freaking out.
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 1: Dude.
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, even when he loses, he seems to come out
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 2: on top.
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, He's the only guy who can cut a promo after,
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 1: you know, losing.
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, fight.
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was phenomenal that fifth round.
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 2: I'm like, crazy, you almost got him almost.
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 5: I mean it as a compliment. He's like a WWE guy,
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 5: like in terms of a hype man, and I think
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 5: other wrestlers, you know, are taking because like, ultimately, what
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 5: are they there for. They want to win fights, and
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 5: obviously they have a passion for that.
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 2: It is to make money, right, it's marketability.
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 4: And yeah, he's great in the game of the story
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 4: that's suddenly I think UFC does better than anybody else.
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 4: Is like playing into the storylines of the beef between
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 4: the two individuals. I think that is so money. We
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 4: had to take on Michigan Ohouse State after Michigan planning
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 4: the flag, and then the postgame press, the post game
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 4: like show, they're talking about how there's no place for
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 4: that in football, and it's like, don't say that, because
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 4: you know next year going to the game, you're going
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 4: to show that to get everybody to go watch the game,
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 4: Like you want these storylines to like, you know, make
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 4: everybody kind of tune in. The's a couple of guys
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 4: from s C. You're like, you're not gonna be like,
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 4: let me go watch Michigan, Ohiose State today you'll probably
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 4: go turn on you.
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 5: Ohio State wins and plants the flag.
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you want to see that.
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 4: And I'm thinking to myself, we got to get five
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 4: in a row.
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 5: And so now like Diamond and like, I don't know,
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 5: maybe I'm different. Like if you don't want them to
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 5: plant the flag, don't lose. Yeah, Like that's how I
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 5: love that.
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 7: I love that.
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 4: Who do you think I won the national championship?
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 5: Not Ohio State, Ohio State?
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I Ohio State's rolling around.
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 5: I think it's tell you I don't like Notre Dame
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 5: being an sc guy generally speaking, but like, man, I
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 5: like that coach Marcus Freeman, Like he's.
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 2: It seems like the Bears are gonna interview him.
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, that's probably just that's probably just to create
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 5: but again that that's probably to create leverage to get
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 5: a better deal with Pete.
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 5: Like if you if you like, if you're thinking like
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 5: and you're like, we like Pete. He has success, he
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 5: brings energy, We have a good young quarterback. You don't
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 5: just interview Pete and like, again, Pete's got a great agent.
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 5: You you bring in some hot candidates. You don't tell
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 5: him this, but you're just creating leverage to negotiate with peace.
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 2: Business and he's got it. He had to pick up
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 2: books early.
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 5: No, I remember I got to my my work. The
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 5: first day I had to YouTube. This is when YouTube
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 5: like how to tie a tie the night before. My
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 5: dad was the best dad in the world, but he
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 5: never had a traditional job. He was an NFL football
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 5: player straight to being a you know, our youth football coach,
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 5: and so that transition was very painful.
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 8: Man.
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 5: It took it took years for me to catch up
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 5: to the you know, I want to you know stereotype
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 5: the frat boys, Like, who's not just in college? I
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 5: never I didn't think that I should be preparing for
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 5: life after football. That was something like after my last
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 5: game was like a crap, Like what do I do?
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 5: And on top of that, you know, they just had more.
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 5: It took me a long time to catch up. That
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 5: was that was pretty painful.
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, should we hit our tier talk.
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, let's hit your talk here.
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 2: Talk this week is gonna be best brother athletic families.
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 5: Of all times.
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 2: Math talk explain them how tier talk works. So tier
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 2: talk is basically your top three. You'll start a tier three.
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 2: You give a reason. Why are you give a little?
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 2: You give a few words? Why tier two?
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 1: Tier brothers?
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 2: If you want to give an honorable mention, that's on
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 2: the table as well.
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 1: Brothers are family.
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 2: Family, We'll go family.
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 1: Will just pla say, I'll do brothers. You guys, brothers.
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 1: I want to do brothers. So you obviously got paid
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 1: payt and eli.
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 2: You gotta start at three. Now you gotta start. So
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 2: here's it.
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 4: You gotta start three, and then you go. You can
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 4: give an honorable mention if you want, you go honorable
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 4: mention three two one, and then everyone's gonna be silent.
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 4: After we're gonna go around the room. Everyone's gonna say
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 4: one word to describe how they feel about your tier talk.
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 1: So okay, so I'm going three two one three two? Okay?
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 4: So we are we each giving our own opinion, collaborat No,
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 4: everyone's given their own opinion.
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Sorry real quick time out, dude. Is
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 5: there a list of like or I have to think
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 5: about off the top of my own.
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 1: Manning, I would go Manning's one, we can work the
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 1: other way. Manning's one. I would say, the Watts two
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 1: and then.
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 2: Any sport too.
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 1: Oh now we're doing that? No, no, no, no, I
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 1: I can't think of many other I mean, I know
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 1: the Longs had success, the Bosas are obviously Nick's playing well.
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 2: Phil's families. I think Mayweather's got to be in there.
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 2: But it's brothers or siblings, the Williams sisters.
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, wait are we going l We're doing NFL? Come
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 1: on you brought.
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Sorry, well JP back there any sport? Who'd you
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 2: just tell me?
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 1: You were asking chat? GPT gave a good one?
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 2: What do you give you? Kyle? All right? So a
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 2: couple because I agree with you. I think one and
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 2: two is Mannings and then Watts, so three trying to
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 2: figure out you're one.
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 5: Of the best.
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, we're doing a whole different way. Yeah, this
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 2: we'll just do it, all right, I got it, I
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 2: got it.
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 4: Well I don't. I don't agree with your tier two.
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 5: All right, here we go. You want honorable mention that
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 5: the Jones family, Arthur Jones, Jones, John j Yeah, okay,
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 5: I guess, okay, the Jones and and number they're they're
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 5: tier one in terms of who I don't want to fight, right,
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 5: all right? Also honorable mention the Gronks. The gronkowskis okay,
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 5: like they're they had players, But I would say tier
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 5: three like beyond honor mentioned higher than I would say
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 5: the Watt family JJ and T JM at their studs, right,
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 5: But there's no butt to that. It's just if you
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 5: want a Tier one tier two, I think you got
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 5: to start talking generationally, like did their dad's play their
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 5: their grandfathers, like you see what I'm saying. Like, and
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 5: so tier two is the main because you had Peyton
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 5: and Eli who are incredible, and Archie and then arch
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 5: coming up. Tier one is I mean, it's one hundred
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 5: percent of Matthews most games in NFL history across three generations,
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 5: like and and what eleven different football players who who
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 5: played a game in the NFL.
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 1: Some one's still playing for the Jakes. Jakes had one
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 1: hundred and I think he was drafted before you. Uh,
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 1: yes he was.
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 4: I remember the show.
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 1: I remember you posted something a long time ago. Yeah,
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 1: you went down to Atlanta. I don't know. You posted
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 1: something and then it was funny because my my cousin,
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 1: Jake's brother had re posted on Instagram. I was a
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 1: funny little bit, right, there.
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 4: But yeah, well, I mean I thought I was a Falcon,
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 4: and I remember taking to Jake. We were we were
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 4: like doing something during draft week, and I was like, Hey,
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 4: where do you want to go? And I'm thinking, I
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 4: don't know what I'm thinking. He's like with the Falcons.
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 4: I was like, I want to to other Falcons too.
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 4: We kind of kind of looked at each other and
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 4: then we were cordial, nice. I liked a law He's awesome,
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 4: great guy. But when that phone rang at six and
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 4: he was two tables away from me, I was fucking sick.
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 5: I got a question. Yeah, looking back at the careers,
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 5: if you're at the gym, how would you draft that today?
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 4: Probably take Jake before me. Still, I mean, he's had
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 4: the longevity. He's eleven years in now. I think I
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 4: had a higher ceiling. But you can't beat long, Like
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 4: the best ability is durability.
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 1: He's gonna play another He's gonna play a long Don't
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 1: you want that? Like the number? I think he's he's
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 1: right now, he's got the streak for longest.
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 2: He's a Matthew.
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 1: He isn't he hasn't missed the game of things.
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 5: Which gets back to the first question.
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 2: But you would take if you go back to that,
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 2: it was brothers.
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well.
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 2: You're the one who even said brothers too, and then
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 2: your brother brings in the entire family.
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 7: Sounds good.
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, to go back to that, because I am
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 4: you guys fourteen, You take Jake second or second or
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 4: third overall over the Rams, picked over Greg Robinson, and
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 4: then I probably go six. Actually, probably take Zach Martin
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 4: because he's in that draft class as well.
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 5: He went to the Cowboys with the Cowboys.
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 4: He's a Hall of Fame. He probably actually goes before Jake.
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 4: So be like Jake or sorry Zach, Jake than me
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 4: because I'm obviously I had like a more splash and
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 4: there's still more time on Jake's career to do that.
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think Bruce didn't make a Pro Bowl
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 4: till his eleventh year. Bruce he made fourteen, but he
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 4: like he didn't make it for the like he made
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 4: the back half square. So yeah, I think, I mean,
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 4: obviously you take Jake before me for sure? For sure,
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 4: it makes me six. In it out loud, We'll delete that.
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 4: Let that out.
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like how throws it in there. Let's think
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 2: about this.
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, let me ask you this question that we
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 4: know it's gonna hurt.
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we kind of spun this. Yeah. That family.
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 2: That's a veteran tiertalk moves. Veteran tiertalk. Oh, he's good.
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 2: He's read a few books. He talks about leverage and
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 2: everything else. He knew how to spend the entire conversation
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 2: on us.
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 5: I mostly chat the books and represent that I read them.
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think when it comes to brothers, though, it's
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 2: hard to beat the Mannings of the Watts Jones for sure,
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 2: like you had Chandler played a high level and then
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 2: his brother John Jones in the UFC as far as
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 2: the sport of football. But family lean, yeah, bris the
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 2: Kelsey's l those.
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 1: Guys they can be. I forgot about these.
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 4: Those are both famous, they are both Hall of famers.
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, man, there's some good brothers.
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I put the I put the Kelsey's over the Watts.
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know, man, mhm, impact.
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 1: That what I'm saying, like Kelsey zuh. You know, I'm
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 1: just saying both of them, like.
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 4: Let me put you real quick, swifties, listen, no will
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 4: be then I'm looking at for you.
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 1: Remember Jason pulling from the center position on like a
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 1: like a toss, you know, and I'm middle linebacker trying
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 1: to get out there. That Holy this guy's running sixty
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 1: yards downfield. Now, I'm saying there stes. But as far
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 1: as impact every game, you know, like sack calls, fumbles
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 1: which change the center can't do that, a tight.
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 5: End which gets to the position you play. That's why
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 5: it's quarterback.
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, quarterbacks gonna be first no matter.
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 5: What offensive tackles and rush It's like quarterbacks number one.
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 5: Tackles and rush players are two in terms of value
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 5: to the game.
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 4: I'm with you. I hear what you're saying.
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 5: Safety dead, last last guy.
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 4: It's down there.
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 4: Take the mccordy brothers out then they're gone.
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, unfortunately listen.
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 4: Good brothers though, Yeah, good brothers. Yeah. And they're twins
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 4: to which kind of gives them an extra little bump.
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 1: It's nice.
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 2: Now. I think the Kelsey's edge them out as far as.
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 1: All pros, Yeah, but I'm talking about the impact.
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 2: Just Jason and Travis both of like seven plus JJ
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 2: had five.
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 1: Three time defensive player that's yeah.
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, are we talk peak because his peak was pretty
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 5: high up? Yea peak was Yeah, I could debate right
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 5: there said you didn't say football athlete. If we're talking athletes,
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't put the Mannings potentially in there.
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 2: WHOA, they're they're playing their football players.
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the quarterbacks.
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 2: I see what you're saying. Yeah, I see what you're saying.
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 1: It's like, what's your definition of athletes?
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 4: This is a this is gonna go.
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 2: This has been such a conversational. Who wasn't Michael Phelps
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 2: is the greatest athlete of our generation. It's like, all right,
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 2: is he?
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 5: I don't know something. Something tells me if the guy
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 5: put his mind to it, Michael Jordan would be a
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 5: good swimmer too. So I feel like I'm Jay.
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 2: Lebron, Lebron and Jordan. I don't need to do what
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah Sterling and Shannon Sharp.
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 1: But the recentism right now we're gonna harballs.
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 2: The harballs in the coaching realm was who is.
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 4: Your biggest like rival in your mind from the defensive
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 4: side of the ball, Like when you're rushing the edge,
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 4: like you look at other guys and be like, I
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 4: gotta fucking outdo this.
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 1: Guy you're talking about, Like on the defense, like the
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 1: defensive side where.
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 4: You would watch other people's film and be like, hey,
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 4: I'm I believe I'm the top edge rusher in the
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 4: entire NFL. But some people might say this guy is Russian.
• 2:14:17
  Speaker 1: Was man. It's like the All Pro Team shifted and
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 1: Pro Bowl shifted, Pro Bow states same, but All Pro
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 1: team shifted every year. You had justin Houston have twenty
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 1: two sacks, you'd have Jared Allen you have twenty sacks.
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 1: You'd have DeMarcus Ware with twenty. You know what I mean,
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 1: It's a Von Miller eighteen. And so it was really
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 1: difficult to be one of those first team All pros.
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 1: But honestly, to answer that question, I watched their game
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 1: and I was like, Okay, what can I take from them?
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 1: And you just hoped that in bettering your game you
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 1: would because it was all based on sacks. You know,
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 1: if you could have right around fifteen sacks, you probably
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 1: be a first you know, first team All Pro.
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 4: But who is the guy that you were like, did
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 4: you ever have a guy that you had like in
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 4: your mind? Nothing like that.
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 1: I just it was all about sacks. Yeah, and I realized,
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 1: like it's ridiculous, you know, because I could hit a
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 1: quarterback and and not get a sack all game. But
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 1: the media, everybody wants to know your sacks. You get
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 1: above ten sacks, you make a Pro Bowl, you get
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 1: you know, you're the highest paid athletes. So for me,
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 1: you know, I had to just embrace that it was
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 1: all about sacks, you know. And to your point, when
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 1: I had like forty fifty sixty tackles, like I'd get
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 1: three tackles a game, you would hope that two would
• 2:15:16
  Speaker 1: be TfL's wont be a sack, right, and you're all
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 1: Pro at the end of the year. Oh yeah, and
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 1: you got to shut down guys like us for sixty plays. Yeah,
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 1: that's brutal bone, I get it.
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 2: Who's your favorite defensive player you ever played with?
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 9: Uh?
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Pepper's Peppers Julius. Julius was a man.
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 2: Is he the best you ever played with? Too?
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 1: The best in what regard?
• 2:15:40
  Speaker 2: Just the best, like in your brain looking back, like
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 2: that's the best defensive player I ever played with.
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 1: Well, I also played with Charles Woodson too. Charles was
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 1: probably a greater playmaker, but Julius athletically physically could take
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 1: over a game at his position because he's what we
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 1: talked about pastors or he disrupts the quarterback every play.
• 2:15:58
  Speaker 2: How about AJ Hawk?
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 1: Just them? I remember when I first met AJ. I
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 1: remember when I first met agent. I was doing like
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 1: you know, I got draft and they brought us in
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 1: and I saw him walking down the hallway. I always
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 1: let his hair down too, and I walked up to
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 1: him like such a nervese, like a J Hawk. Clay
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 1: Matthews like shook his hand and knowing AJ now.
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 5: Like hey, you're like, I'm like both long hair, like
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 5: I think we're supposed to be friends exactly the best.
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 1: Once, did you guys see the game where he gave
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 1: double birds to his position coach, Winston mass So.
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 5: He thought he was being cut or he thought he
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 5: wasn't being re signed, right, No, no, no, he had
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 5: a great year.
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 1: Well I I yeah, I'm not sure what happened, but
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 1: he gave he gave double middle fingers to his coach
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 1: and then he got like a sack on like a blitz.
• 2:16:40
  Speaker 1: And then like this is when I was still involved
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 1: with Twitter and social media, and everyone's like, that's so disgraceful. Matthews,
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 1: you should be fine people coming down on AJ. You
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 1: got the sack, wasn't me? He is a man, though, I.
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 2: See Clay just tweet Hey that wasn't me, that was
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 2: a j Hawk tags him.
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 1: Now, I just I just filmed another commercial, that's all. Hey,
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 1: you go right there? Okay? It was a single single.
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 4: Bird, single bird, God something about the middle finger dudeeah,
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 4: I think so hard.
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 5: I think he was upset because they were taking him
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 5: off a third downs. It was his contract year and
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 5: we were hanging in his house and he had made
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 5: a comment like, yeah, I don't think they're gonna bring
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 5: me back, and so he's like fucking them out. Well,
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 5: guess what he had. He had a great year and
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 5: they signed him to like another three year deal.
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 2: That makes it even better.
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 4: So where do you finish on tier talk?
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 2: I think this could be one where we throw we
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 2: clip out all the brother names that we said, We
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 2: let the we let the fans aside, We let the
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 2: crowd decide. Get everybody else in the picture. Yeah, yeah,
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 2: we can roll with his for the clip because I
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 2: thought he had a good one. I thought he had
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 2: a good one.
• 2:17:38
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• 2:18:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, well, he was obviously all this highlights on
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 1: his hits. You can see, man, we had this and
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 1: we had this linebacker on our teams, a five star recruit.
• 2:18:34
  Speaker 1: I think he came in the same year as Ray
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 1: or after. His name was Luther Brown. Luth is awesome,
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 1: and but Ray was on the team at the time,
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 1: and something something popped off somewhere. You know, I wasn't
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 1: privy to it. I was at home doing my homework.
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 1: And uh so the next day at practice or meetings,
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 1: this guy shows up, you know, Luther, and he's got
• 2:18:53
  Speaker 1: glasses on in meetings and and Luther's jacked I'm talking.
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 1: He's the guy who cut the frill on the bottom
• 2:18:58
  Speaker 1: of his shirt. Abs always hang out like someone you
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 1: would mess with. I think Pete might have made him
• 2:19:03
  Speaker 1: take his last suffer. He had to just swollen eye
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 1: like all black and blue. Like what happened Ray, Ray happened.
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know what happened, but he might have mixed
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 1: you know, something in there. But something happened and Luther
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 1: got popped.
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 4: And but locker room, no, I.
• 2:19:20
  Speaker 1: This was outside of the locker room. This wasn't at
• 2:19:22
  Speaker 1: the locker room at the time. It just it just.
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 2: I never you never did anything.
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 1: He just didn't ask a questions, just carried on.
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 4: Was y was pe reacts when he saw the glasses
• 2:19:32
  Speaker 4: come off.
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 2: I mean it was as usual.
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 4: Corner getting jacked up.
• 2:19:38
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 5: I think they just let him fill and p He
• 2:19:41
  Speaker 5: probably said, hey, you got a bob and weave?
• 2:19:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, Yeah, he took everything to stride. But yeah,
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 1: that that was just like where it's your own teammate,
• 2:19:47
  Speaker 1: your own linebacker, You're like, all right, man, this guy's crazy.
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 2: He's crazy, and where nobody just says anything to him
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 2: because you know how crazy he is. Yeah, it's like
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 2: a Nebraskan Dominicancu. We had a practice Saturday morning and
• 2:19:56
  Speaker 2: he knocks out an old lineman because I guess he
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 2: was holding, and Dominicin just palm to the back of
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 2: the head drops him right there in front of everybody.
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 2: Nobody says a word to Sue. We just like move
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 2: it up ten yards and continue. It was a scrimmage.
• 2:20:10
  Speaker 4: No, she just moved up to while ambulance is coming
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 4: on the field.
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're like sit in the back. Holy shit, gonna
• 2:20:15
  Speaker 2: say a new guys in the back.
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 4: That's crazy.
• 2:20:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah wild.
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 2: Did that linebacker stay at USC?
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah he was there?
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, he says, I know there was a guy
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 2: coming out named Arthur Brown. I didn't know if he
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 2: was he stopped now.
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 1: But yeah, Luther, Luther Brown was still on special teams
• 2:20:31
  Speaker 1: and whatnot. I think he played a little bit. But yeah,
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 1: when you nobody messed with lutheror nobody messed with Ray.
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody mess with Ray.
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 4: I do I have like a sideways question. It's not
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 4: necessarily towards the question, but like seeing Aaron Rodgers and
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 4: obviously twenty twenty happens, he's on his eyewashing, Like, was
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 4: he the same guy at the packers as you see
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 4: him as now? Was he always like this level of
• 2:20:52
  Speaker 4: like trying to be enlightened, trying to have more in
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 4: depth conversations in depth.
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 1: Thought, Uh, not as much as the time. I think
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 1: he probably has embraced that more now than ever, probably
• 2:21:03
  Speaker 1: around the COVID when it seemed like everybody was coming
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 1: down on him. But he's always been, you know, a
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 1: free spirit, free thinker, never went along with the norm.
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 1: It's just that because he was the you know, the
• 2:21:14
  Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, you got to be the Drew Brees, the
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 1: you know, the the Peyton mannings like the raw raw guy.
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 1: And you know, obviously Aaron kind of marches to the
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 1: beat of his own drum. I've always said he's like
• 2:21:25
  Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant. There's you know, whomever is the opposite of Kobe.
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 1: Kobe was kind of like he was just a killer.
• 2:21:32
  Speaker 1: But he's not going to help anybody who doesn't seek help.
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 1: You know, he's not going to be that raw, raw guy.
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 1: And so I've always equated that to him. He's like Kobe, like,
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 1: if you you know, come to me if you want hell.
• 2:21:41
  Speaker 1: That's why Davante Jordi, the James Jones, these guys, he's
• 2:21:44
  Speaker 1: receivers who had so much success. It's because they bought in.
• 2:21:47
  Speaker 1: They got close to him, and they were on the
• 2:21:49
  Speaker 1: same page. So, man, I got nothing but love for
• 2:21:51
  Speaker 1: Aaron and and you know, hopefully it's I don't know
• 2:21:54
  Speaker 1: if he's coming back next year or what that out, Yeah,
• 2:21:57
  Speaker 1: it would. I'd like to see him come back, just
• 2:22:00
  Speaker 1: to end on a high note, just because twenty four.
• 2:22:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love to see him. Yeah, I'd love to
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 2: see him get a little bit of the revenge.
• 2:22:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, come the Titans, Aaron, come here on the Titans
• 2:22:10
  Speaker 4: for a little bit. Did you uh, you guys always
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 4: get along? Did you guys ever butt heads at all?
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 4: If it's a ship talking at all? Third down period?
• 2:22:17
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well we did all that, but now we
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 1: never we never butted heads. Beating in that basketball oh man. Yeah,
• 2:22:25
  Speaker 1: speaking of that, that that Florida that Florida Pro Bowl back. Now,
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 1: we played a three on three. It was it was Kyle,
• 2:22:32
  Speaker 1: my younger brother, Casey, and me Versu Aaron, I think
• 2:22:36
  Speaker 1: one of his brothers and one of his buddies at
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 1: the time, three on three at the down in Miami,
• 2:22:41
  Speaker 1: Miami wherever it was. I got real physical, Yeah, I
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 1: got real I fact, yeah, it got real physical, and
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 1: we ended up winning.
• 2:22:48
  Speaker 5: Well said a pick on one of his buddy. So
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 5: it's kind of like a Matthew's brothers versus Rogers bros.
• 2:22:54
  Speaker 5: Now the youngest is of Jordan. He wasn't there but
• 2:22:56
  Speaker 5: Luke Aaron, and then they had a buddy who was
• 2:22:59
  Speaker 5: filling in for Jordan's you you knocked him.
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 2: It was screening.
• 2:23:10
  Speaker 5: He was like like eyes like like you know that
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 5: grunt sound. He finished the game. But it was a
• 2:23:20
  Speaker 5: competitive game obviously, Like even though he's a quarterback, Aaron's
• 2:23:24
  Speaker 5: a freakish athlete, you know, like you I guess, especially
• 2:23:28
  Speaker 5: earlier on in his career, ran lot more. But he's
• 2:23:29
  Speaker 5: a great athlete. His brother's great athlete. Obviously, we were
• 2:23:32
  Speaker 5: we were doing okay, and it was like to eleven,
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 5: but then like we got to eleven, but you have
• 2:23:36
  Speaker 5: to win by two and then they got to twelve
• 2:23:38
  Speaker 5: and it was it was heated and and finally, you know,
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 5: we put him away with a little jump hook in
• 2:23:45
  Speaker 5: the paint. And Aaron, uh, he doesn't take losses very well,
• 2:23:49
  Speaker 5: it turns out. So he got grabbed the ball and
• 2:23:53
  Speaker 5: like he kicked the ball, is still sailing and walks
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 5: off and like, I don't think he's ever talked to.
• 2:24:04
  Speaker 4: Me since.
• 2:24:07
  Speaker 1: You saw him in New York on the streets. But yeah,
• 2:24:10
  Speaker 1: like that's the competitor he is though. I mean, like
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 1: that was a funny, fun anecdotal.
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 5: So for me, I didn't have that career. So like
• 2:24:17
  Speaker 5: beating Aaron in a game, like, I'm gonna remember that.
• 2:24:20
  Speaker 5: It's cool. Like I don't go around telling people the story.
• 2:24:22
  Speaker 5: But like you asked, but Aaron, like he's got a
• 2:24:25
  Speaker 5: million bigger moments in his head he should be thinking about,
• 2:24:27
  Speaker 5: like when he won the MVP of the Super Bowl.
• 2:24:29
  Speaker 5: But I know he knows that, and I know he
• 2:24:31
  Speaker 5: holds onto it.
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 4: He'll have that forever, He'll always have his number. And
• 2:24:36
  Speaker 4: I was like, hey, you guys were butt heads or
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 4: anything like that? You did whisper that was that pickups
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 4: part of.
• 2:24:42
  Speaker 5: It is like when I see her and like it's cool.
• 2:24:45
  Speaker 5: So like if I if we say this story, he's
• 2:24:47
  Speaker 5: be like, hey man, I remember that time he went
• 2:24:48
  Speaker 5: on busting and you talked ship.
• 2:24:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, he'll have it holstered.
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 4: Literally if he ever sees this clip, we'll have a
• 2:24:54
  Speaker 4: basketball in him at all times. Yeah, he'll.
• 2:24:58
  Speaker 5: He's gonna hold against for sure.
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 4: But like you got, you probably got the Achilles, like
• 2:25:03
  Speaker 4: you get less mobile, you'll probably be able to handle
• 2:25:05
  Speaker 4: them respectfully.
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 5: I had him back then too. Now he's really.
• 2:25:13
  Speaker 2: Where he's there. I love your dog. We have a
• 2:25:16
  Speaker 2: harder twisted question for you have a business opportunity to
• 2:25:19
  Speaker 2: buy and build a dream stadium for a destination Bowl
• 2:25:22
  Speaker 2: game outside of the US. Where are you building and why?
• 2:25:26
  Speaker 1: Which on college?
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 2:25:29
  Speaker 5: Well all right, so I got unpacked only one so
• 2:25:33
  Speaker 5: I'm building. And then if I'm building a bowl games.
• 2:25:37
  Speaker 1: You too, assholds, I'll get you best friends over there.
• 2:25:46
  Speaker 1: You ask, like a destination Bowl game? Who wrote this question?
• 2:25:49
  Speaker 9: First off, there's the Bahamas Balls, the Bahamas Bowl, there's
• 2:25:52
  Speaker 9: the Pinstripe Bowl. Then just say yeah, yeah, you caught
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 9: himself though, he's like god damn, it's.
• 2:26:04
  Speaker 4: Already ascility right now.
• 2:26:05
  Speaker 2: It's there for Kyle talking circles around us and we're
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 2: talking college football.
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 1: This is such a lame question, That's what I'm not
• 2:26:15
  Speaker 1: going It's a lame question.
• 2:26:20
  Speaker 5: Well, I I yeah, the same question. I saw the
• 2:26:25
  Speaker 5: same question. I was like, well I don't really understand,
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 5: all right, So I'll show you how I approached the question.
• 2:26:30
  Speaker 5: So I go, Okay, a bowl game. But I'm building
• 2:26:33
  Speaker 5: a stadium for a bowl game, So what's the motivation
• 2:26:37
  Speaker 5: of building a probably to turn a profit? So now
• 2:26:40
  Speaker 5: I have to think about, like, okay, what city has
• 2:26:43
  Speaker 5: a built in fan base that likes football outside the country?
• 2:26:46
  Speaker 5: So I got to do my due diligence. The NFL
• 2:26:48
  Speaker 5: has probably already done it, and they tend to pick
• 2:26:49
  Speaker 5: London in Mexico City. So now I'm already narrowing on
• 2:26:52
  Speaker 5: those two. Is it going to be London? Is it
• 2:26:53
  Speaker 5: going to be Mexico City? Those are two of the
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 5: biggest m s as on the planet. They already have
• 2:26:58
  Speaker 5: some built in fan base because the NFL has been
• 2:27:00
  Speaker 5: laying the groundwork. And then I would have to look
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 5: at the economics, like am I going to own this stadium?
• 2:27:06
  Speaker 5: What can I lease it in addition to the Bowl game,
• 2:27:08
  Speaker 5: can I lease it out to others?
• 2:27:10
  Speaker 4: And so hell ya?
• 2:27:11
  Speaker 5: And then so then I'm gonna get to safety and
• 2:27:13
  Speaker 5: security because people won't travel unless they feel safe. Right,
• 2:27:16
  Speaker 5: So I'm probably not being an expert because I've been
• 2:27:19
  Speaker 5: to both those cities. I'm probably gonna go London.
• 2:27:22
  Speaker 4: Okay, I like I like the answer. I think you
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 4: missed a key spot though, Cobo saying Lucas. It's a
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 4: genius destination spot not very far away. Everyone wants to
• 2:27:35
  Speaker 4: vacation there. You're thinking about Bowl games, You're gonna get teams.
• 2:27:39
  Speaker 4: Fans of those teams are going to want to travel
• 2:27:40
  Speaker 4: with the bull games. Where you want to go? Beach location,
• 2:27:43
  Speaker 4: want to do a little marlin fish and they will
• 2:27:44
  Speaker 4: catch the boys. Put a couple points on the board.
• 2:27:46
  Speaker 4: That's where That's where you want to go. Right there,
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 4: head over to mango deck, see a what T shirt contests,
• 2:27:51
  Speaker 4: push up competition, have a little fun, then being bamboom.
• 2:27:53
  Speaker 4: You had a great time. I agree.
• 2:27:55
  Speaker 5: I think I touched on that though. If it was
• 2:27:57
  Speaker 5: just a Bowl game, fine, But the economics of building
• 2:27:59
  Speaker 5: a stadium is so expensive that you actually have to
• 2:28:01
  Speaker 5: lease the stadium out all year round. This is why
• 2:28:03
  Speaker 5: the Titans are getting rid of the outdoor stadium and
• 2:28:05
  Speaker 5: putting an indoor because just leasing it in the summer
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 5: to Taylor Swift and the Titans, it doesn't make money.
• 2:28:13
  Speaker 2: So how am I?
• 2:28:16
  Speaker 5: How am I going to have an event in Cabo
• 2:28:18
  Speaker 5: like four out of seven days a week the way
• 2:28:21
  Speaker 5: I could in a city the population of London or
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 5: Mexico City, London being fifteen million, Mexico City.
• 2:28:28
  Speaker 2: So me and Claire soon, Oh yeah, Hurricane boom.
• 2:28:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, London definitely is the move, right.
• 2:28:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'd love to change my answer.
• 2:28:42
  Speaker 2: Doctor, Shall we.
• 2:28:45
  Speaker 4: The beginning?
• 2:28:47
  Speaker 7: What else? How are you guys as a little league
• 2:28:50
  Speaker 7: youth coaches competitive?
• 2:28:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 2:28:56
  Speaker 5: So I'm I'm coaching now. I coached the eighth grade
• 2:29:01
  Speaker 5: team on the street football, and I would say our
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 5: kids are very disciplined, and they're running schemes that are
• 2:29:10
  Speaker 5: that are probably more advanced than most most eighth grade kids.
• 2:29:13
  Speaker 1: Clay, you're a little younger, Yeah, our five years old?
• 2:29:16
  Speaker 2: Is he watching him? As a head coaches? He get
• 2:29:18
  Speaker 2: after the parents as he get.
• 2:29:19
  Speaker 5: After Let me all right, so my kids are old? No,
• 2:29:25
  Speaker 5: got I got to serve it up because my kids
• 2:29:27
  Speaker 5: are older and I. It runs in the family. There's
• 2:29:31
  Speaker 5: a there's a there's a hot bloodedness. I would argue,
• 2:29:34
  Speaker 5: we're not on the field, we're very quiet, very stoic,
• 2:29:37
  Speaker 5: pretty reserved, like borderline social anxiety disorder, and so, but
• 2:29:42
  Speaker 5: when you get on the field, it changes. And so
• 2:29:45
  Speaker 5: as a coach, he's come to some of my kids
• 2:29:47
  Speaker 5: games to support as a good uncle and and my
• 2:29:49
  Speaker 5: brother Casey as well. And I get I get hot,
• 2:29:51
  Speaker 5: I work, I work the refs right and occasionally threatened
• 2:29:56
  Speaker 5: the other coaches with violence, and so there's been a
• 2:29:59
  Speaker 5: lot of judgment from him to me over the years,
• 2:30:01
  Speaker 5: like dude, you're embarrassing, Like.
• 2:30:03
  Speaker 1: I can't get really embarrassing. I sat by him one
• 2:30:07
  Speaker 1: time and I had to back up in the stands
• 2:30:08
  Speaker 1: because I was embarrassed I was doing the ref The
• 2:30:11
  Speaker 1: ref threatened to throw him out of a third or
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 1: fourth grade girls basketball and I was like, it's like
• 2:30:18
  Speaker 1: twelve to ten, one more outburst from you. I had
• 2:30:21
  Speaker 1: to leave. I had to.
• 2:30:25
  Speaker 5: Go hard to go home. So anyway, a lot of
• 2:30:27
  Speaker 5: judgment to where I'm like, you know what, I really
• 2:30:28
  Speaker 5: got to look at myself, like I got to get better,
• 2:30:30
  Speaker 5: I got to be a better person, like I have
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 5: to not you know, get that fired up. And I'm like, yeah,
• 2:30:35
  Speaker 5: you know, he's right, Like I got I got to
• 2:30:37
  Speaker 5: grow up. And then this guy I go to his kid, Colton,
• 2:30:41
  Speaker 5: who's probably four at the time, his first game. I'm
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 5: there to support and like, as soon as the game
• 2:30:46
  Speaker 5: pops off, I see Clay start chirping at the other
• 2:30:48
  Speaker 5: coaches start getting real like aggravated jerky motion and like
• 2:30:52
  Speaker 5: kind of chippy, and I'm like, Okay, I feel better
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 5: about myself.
• 2:30:55
  Speaker 2: Did that not happen?
• 2:30:56
  Speaker 1: That didn't Now. I was very cool about it, but
• 2:30:58
  Speaker 1: I did throw some sarcasm in some remarks, some passive
• 2:31:01
  Speaker 1: remarks because he had a kindergarten team. We're playing with
• 2:31:03
  Speaker 1: a pre k and he's blitzing every play like that,
• 2:31:06
  Speaker 1: have some sportsmanship. I know your team's better, you're going
• 2:31:09
  Speaker 1: to win, but have some sportsmanship. I'm about sportsmanship and
• 2:31:12
  Speaker 1: I didn't get that way. Yeah, so what do we
• 2:31:14
  Speaker 1: do the next year? We just ran the table and
• 2:31:15
  Speaker 1: one of the you know, the kindergarten championship.
• 2:31:18
  Speaker 4: So this is just lessons.
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 5: What was more satisfying the kindergarten championship of the Super Bowl.
• 2:31:25
  Speaker 1: Well, I tell you what, No, I don't know. I
• 2:31:29
  Speaker 1: don't know. You know how how old you guys kids are.
• 2:31:32
  Speaker 1: But I finally felt that feeling that I was missing
• 2:31:35
  Speaker 1: from the football field when I got to coach my
• 2:31:37
  Speaker 1: kids again, kind of living through them. They talk about
• 2:31:40
  Speaker 1: that because we won our first game like thirty four
• 2:31:42
  Speaker 1: to thirty one, and I just my stomach like I was,
• 2:31:44
  Speaker 1: I was just in k nots like I was, like
• 2:31:46
  Speaker 1: I was with the I was with him. He's five
• 2:31:48
  Speaker 1: years old, right, it shouldn't matter, but it does. I'm
• 2:31:50
  Speaker 1: a competitive But the Super Bowl was cool too. That
• 2:31:55
  Speaker 1: was actually a blur. That was my second year. I
• 2:31:57
  Speaker 1: didn't I didn't Maximi, I didn't Kapali. I was like
• 2:31:59
  Speaker 1: off the field, like, no picture, We're gonna win like five,
• 2:32:02
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, fifteen and one. We got the lose to
• 2:32:05
  Speaker 1: the Giants. Next year Kaepernick runs. It was just like,
• 2:32:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, a super Bowl thing's hard to do.
• 2:32:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:32:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Joe Tyreek Hill he said he didn't make the
• 2:32:15
  Speaker 4: playoffs for the first time in his career. He's got
• 2:32:16
  Speaker 4: a he's got to go a different team now.
• 2:32:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:32:19
  Speaker 5: That Jake was playing for the Falcons. They were at
• 2:32:21
  Speaker 5: what twenty eight three in the fourth quarter to the
• 2:32:23
  Speaker 5: Patriots and they had that collapse. It was heartbreaking, and
• 2:32:26
  Speaker 5: I was talking to Clay and you know, we're chatting
• 2:32:29
  Speaker 5: it and I was like, hey, you talk to Jake
• 2:32:31
  Speaker 5: and he's like, yeah. You was like, I'm gonna give
• 2:32:32
  Speaker 5: him some time. This was a couple of days after.
• 2:32:34
  Speaker 5: I was like, what do you say. He's like, you know,
• 2:32:35
  Speaker 5: he handled pretty well. He's like, you know, hey, it's
• 2:32:37
  Speaker 5: tough loss. It breaks your eye, but like, listen, we're
• 2:32:40
  Speaker 5: young team, got Matt Ryan, We're gonna be back. We're
• 2:32:42
  Speaker 5: gonna be out this thing. Multiple times in Clay's like, no,
• 2:32:44
  Speaker 5: we ain't. No. It spoke to just how hard it
• 2:32:49
  Speaker 5: is to get back, even if you have the same
• 2:32:50
  Speaker 5: exact team, and you know, which really leads into just
• 2:32:54
  Speaker 5: how great the Mahomes and the Bradys are and all
• 2:32:56
  Speaker 5: that two quarters.
• 2:32:58
  Speaker 4: Away from go to the Super Bowl game nineteen Chiefs
• 2:33:01
  Speaker 4: because we're taking it to the Chiefs taking and we
• 2:33:04
  Speaker 4: beat him earlier that year too, and then Mahomes he
• 2:33:07
  Speaker 4: don't have the same forty times he does like some
• 2:33:09
  Speaker 4: little forty yards scamper on two minutes. We can't back,
• 2:33:13
  Speaker 4: you can't what's going on? And he just scored. They
• 2:33:17
  Speaker 4: end up going up at half never looked back. Brutal.
• 2:33:20
  Speaker 4: I hate him.
• 2:33:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah no, I'm just kidding.
• 2:33:24
  Speaker 2: Since we have mom, should we do our pet peeves
• 2:33:26
  Speaker 2: with them?
• 2:33:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I mean you guys got time, right, yeah,
• 2:33:29
  Speaker 4: all time right?
• 2:33:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, look at my I don't even know where
• 2:33:32
  Speaker 1: my phone is.
• 2:33:33
  Speaker 2: It's been a we say it every week, but I've
• 2:33:35
  Speaker 2: had so much fun on this podcast. Let me pull
• 2:33:40
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  Speaker 2: Ultimately just like a little complaint session. We just we
• 2:34:27
  Speaker 2: talk about what a pet peevevar has been of ours
• 2:34:30
  Speaker 2: has been recently. One that's off the top of my
• 2:34:32
  Speaker 2: head is my wife always tells me to turn off
• 2:34:34
  Speaker 2: the light in the pantry, and it just it triggers
• 2:34:37
  Speaker 2: me because it's like, I'm fucking I'm gonna go back
• 2:34:39
  Speaker 2: in there at some point and snack on something. Why
• 2:34:41
  Speaker 2: do I have to turn the pantry light off every time?
• 2:34:44
  Speaker 2: Nate Bargati has an incredible bit. He's like, what are
• 2:34:46
  Speaker 2: we sending a we saving a nickel for? Like, how
• 2:34:49
  Speaker 2: much are we actually saving? Turn it off lights in
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 2: the house.
• 2:34:51
  Speaker 1: You have a door on your pantry, Yeah, you can
• 2:34:53
  Speaker 1: get one of those press button ones where you just
• 2:34:54
  Speaker 1: open the door, it turns on, and close it and
• 2:34:56
  Speaker 1: they'll turn it off.
• 2:34:57
  Speaker 4: Holy shit, look at that?
• 2:35:00
  Speaker 2: Can I just vent right now?
• 2:35:02
  Speaker 1: Sorry, it's not like a woman. You're not looking for advice,
• 2:35:05
  Speaker 1: You're just venting, all.
• 2:35:06
  Speaker 4: Right, find a solution, will Yeah, it's a terrible pete
• 2:35:09
  Speaker 4: all right, Who's gonna go next, did.
• 2:35:14
  Speaker 5: You I got the opposite. I'll tell you my pet Beeve.
• 2:35:16
  Speaker 5: A second is my wife will leave the lights on,
• 2:35:19
  Speaker 5: so instead of complaining, I just put in neutron lights
• 2:35:21
  Speaker 5: in the house and you can just swipe from an
• 2:35:22
  Speaker 5: app off off. So have your wife look into that.
• 2:35:27
  Speaker 5: So I'll tell you my pet Peeve. I'll tell you
• 2:35:32
  Speaker 5: my pet beeve is is political text messages, You guys
• 2:35:37
  Speaker 5: get moved lots. So all right, So I got put
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 5: on the Republicans, the Democrats, the Radical Bernies, like I'm
• 2:35:49
  Speaker 5: getting fifteen to twenty text messages a day from every
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 5: political party. I got put on some lists and I
• 2:35:56
  Speaker 5: can't unsubscribe. It says like, first of all, it says
• 2:35:59
  Speaker 5: put stop two end to take yourself off. Then it's
• 2:36:01
  Speaker 5: like do you put your stop and then as the
• 2:36:04
  Speaker 5: two in the end or do you have to spell
• 2:36:05
  Speaker 5: it out? But no matter how many times I do that,
• 2:36:08
  Speaker 5: I think when I actually reply like unsubscribed or stop
• 2:36:11
  Speaker 5: to end, it just it just actually it just actually says, hey,
• 2:36:14
  Speaker 5: this is.
• 2:36:14
  Speaker 1: A real number, ladies.
• 2:36:15
  Speaker 5: And I don't know whether it's AT and T or
• 2:36:18
  Speaker 5: these parties. If anybody knows, could you help me out
• 2:36:21
  Speaker 5: take me off these fucking lists. Man, you don't need
• 2:36:25
  Speaker 5: the information, and I'm getting hit from every side.
• 2:36:28
  Speaker 1: Mine's just toilet paper that's put on the roll upside down.
• 2:36:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not a big fan of that. Like political messages suck,
• 2:36:34
  Speaker 1: but like I hate when have it upside down because
• 2:36:37
  Speaker 1: you gotta hold it and then rip it as opposed
• 2:36:39
  Speaker 1: to just one quick swipe like that. It's very it's
• 2:36:44
  Speaker 1: really good, you know what.
• 2:36:45
  Speaker 5: I never and now moving forward, I will notice this
• 2:36:47
  Speaker 5: the rest of my life and be more aggravated.
• 2:36:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you should be thank you never wanted dangling. My
• 2:36:52
  Speaker 4: pet peeve is to my children who want to take
• 2:36:55
  Speaker 4: every word literally. Like if I tell them, hey, please
• 2:36:58
  Speaker 4: don't do this, and then they don't, they do the
• 2:37:00
  Speaker 4: thing I tell them not to do, and then I
• 2:37:02
  Speaker 4: explain to them conversation they have they say they don't remember.
• 2:37:05
  Speaker 4: But when I say the words that I said, and
• 2:37:06
  Speaker 4: I add or subtracts when word, they'll actually be like no, no, no,
• 2:37:08
  Speaker 4: you said this too. That pisses me the fuck off.
• 2:37:11
  Speaker 1: I do not like that.
• 2:37:13
  Speaker 4: So kids, you're not gonna see this clip. Tell your
• 2:37:16
  Speaker 4: kids to stop doing that.
• 2:37:17
  Speaker 1: That's how my kids are, guys. It's it's it's you know,
• 2:37:20
  Speaker 1: eight o'clock, it's time to go upstairs. Garry for bet,
• 2:37:22
  Speaker 1: I'll be like seven fifty Like Dad, it's seven fifty eight.
• 2:37:24
  Speaker 1: We don't need to go up I'm like like drags
• 2:37:26
  Speaker 1: from Guardians or the Galaxy.
• 2:37:28
  Speaker 5: How about nothing? How about when you know your kids
• 2:37:30
  Speaker 5: remember every one time you you commit to something, but
• 2:37:33
  Speaker 5: they don't. Like they're like, Dad, if I do this,
• 2:37:35
  Speaker 5: I'll clean up my room, I'll do my homework. But
• 2:37:37
  Speaker 5: they never remember that. But if one time you say, hey,
• 2:37:39
  Speaker 5: if you do this, you can you know, play games
• 2:37:42
  Speaker 5: or get a cookie, They're like, you said this, you
• 2:37:44
  Speaker 5: said this. They memorize it, but they never remember what
• 2:37:46
  Speaker 5: they said.
• 2:37:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like dude.
• 2:37:48
  Speaker 4: My kids will be like I'll tell my daughter, hey,
• 2:37:51
  Speaker 4: make sure you do this today, and then at the
• 2:37:53
  Speaker 4: end they I'm like, hey, did you do this? Like no,
• 2:37:55
  Speaker 4: I forgot. I was like you need to remember, and
• 2:37:56
  Speaker 4: she's like tell me how I remember. I don't fucking know.
• 2:38:01
  Speaker 4: Just do it, Just do it because I don't know
• 2:38:04
  Speaker 4: my daughter, I ask you to do this right.
• 2:38:07
  Speaker 2: My daughters too. She'll leverage the thing and then not
• 2:38:10
  Speaker 2: do not follow up with the deal, Like I'll have
• 2:38:12
  Speaker 2: her shake my hand. I'll be all right, this is
• 2:38:14
  Speaker 2: a deal. You gotta shake my hand to shake my hand.
• 2:38:16
  Speaker 2: I might give her a piece of a cookie to
• 2:38:17
  Speaker 2: finish your dinner. Then she won't finish the dinner.
• 2:38:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because their emotions, it's chaos. They're emotional terrorists.
• 2:38:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta hold that cookie over their head till
• 2:38:26
  Speaker 4: the dinner. What you gotta do, no question, dude.
• 2:38:28
  Speaker 2: Now I said it. I'll just set it far enough
• 2:38:30
  Speaker 2: away to where she can't get it. She can see
• 2:38:32
  Speaker 2: it and be like, you will get this cookie, but
• 2:38:34
  Speaker 2: you've got to eat five more bites.
• 2:38:36
  Speaker 4: Another one. Another one, dude, is we will like every
• 2:38:41
  Speaker 4: night before bet it's like, hey, five minutes before by
• 2:38:43
  Speaker 4: the time I have to give them the notice that
• 2:38:45
  Speaker 4: in five minutes we will be going to sleep. But
• 2:38:47
  Speaker 4: once that five minutes is up, they also have like
• 2:38:49
  Speaker 4: a routine of like having a nighttime snack or having
• 2:38:51
  Speaker 4: this and they know when I say five minutes, you've
• 2:38:55
  Speaker 4: got five minutes. However, when I get to the end
• 2:38:57
  Speaker 4: of five minutes ago, okay, bedtime, then they want to
• 2:38:59
  Speaker 4: put out the do nick time snack? You said we
• 2:39:01
  Speaker 4: do this, You said we do that. It's like brother,
• 2:39:04
  Speaker 4: you had five minutes, right, You remember when I said
• 2:39:06
  Speaker 4: that we could have got that done and they don't
• 2:39:08
  Speaker 4: and then I end up betting the knee.
• 2:39:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, what are the two times of the day
• 2:39:11
  Speaker 5: where kids are the most difficult. It's like waking him
• 2:39:13
  Speaker 5: up and putting him to bed, Like when you work
• 2:39:16
  Speaker 5: that that's what you got. Like I see him in
• 2:39:18
  Speaker 5: the morning, I see him at night, and like those
• 2:39:19
  Speaker 5: are the two most aggravating times a week. And I'm like, man,
• 2:39:22
  Speaker 5: who are these kids? They're so pleasant, they're so nice,
• 2:39:24
  Speaker 5: but like during the week, I'm like, God, this is frustrated.
• 2:39:27
  Speaker 2: You get to bed, it's prutal.
• 2:39:29
  Speaker 5: It's a war of attrition.
• 2:39:32
  Speaker 2: You either take that dress off or Daddy's gonna have
• 2:39:34
  Speaker 2: to take that dress off. And I promise you right
• 2:39:35
  Speaker 2: now you're going to be very frustrated. I know you've
• 2:39:37
  Speaker 2: learned the one frustrated. You'll be very frustrated and sad
• 2:39:40
  Speaker 2: and mad if dad has got to walk over there.
• 2:39:42
  Speaker 5: Let me give you some elder advice. When you get
• 2:39:43
  Speaker 5: to four kids, you let them sleep in that dress.
• 2:39:45
  Speaker 5: You're like, Noah, yeah, whatever you want. Yeah, Like you
• 2:39:47
  Speaker 5: realize you don't have unlimited energy and there's only so
• 2:39:49
  Speaker 5: many battles, and like I gotta win the toothbrush battle.
• 2:39:52
  Speaker 5: You know, I got to win the homework battle.
• 2:39:53
  Speaker 4: So I let them.
• 2:39:54
  Speaker 5: I give them the dress battle, like, no sleep in
• 2:39:57
  Speaker 5: that dress.
• 2:39:57
  Speaker 2: That's a small way.
• 2:39:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I feel right. Sometimes it gets ticky t.
• 2:40:03
  Speaker 2: It's like, well, oh we got to worry about right
• 2:40:05
  Speaker 2: now is toothbrush? Get your can close off.
• 2:40:07
  Speaker 1: Put them in the laundry.
• 2:40:07
  Speaker 5: That's a rookie. That's rookie ball, right.
• 2:40:09
  Speaker 2: No, I gotta dance. I gotta spin and she'll start
• 2:40:11
  Speaker 2: singing and just spinning and like all you gotta wait
• 2:40:14
  Speaker 2: till the ceremony is over.
• 2:40:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Taylor, I'll go back. One of the things in
• 2:40:19
  Speaker 5: my line of work, you meet with a lot of
• 2:40:20
  Speaker 5: In commercial real estate, you meet with a lot of
• 2:40:22
  Speaker 5: older people, and part of their decision making as it
• 2:40:25
  Speaker 5: relates to real estate is legacy, like do I want
• 2:40:28
  Speaker 5: to leave these assets to my kids? Do I want
• 2:40:30
  Speaker 5: to sell and do something different? And and why this
• 2:40:33
  Speaker 5: is relevant to to we spoke about it early on,
• 2:40:36
  Speaker 5: is is they end up like kind of reflecting on
• 2:40:39
  Speaker 5: their life often is like gosh, like I you know,
• 2:40:41
  Speaker 5: oftentimes real estate, I wish I bought a different building,
• 2:40:44
  Speaker 5: I wish I bought more of these or whatever, and
• 2:40:46
  Speaker 5: that conversation leads to I wish I did and or regrets.
• 2:40:50
  Speaker 5: It's it's a weird dynamic in commercial real estate brokerage.
• 2:40:54
  Speaker 5: And I'll tell you I have. I've been in living
• 2:40:56
  Speaker 5: rooms and office buildings and conversations with people who are
• 2:41:01
  Speaker 5: nearing the end of their life, and I hundreds thousands
• 2:41:04
  Speaker 5: of times I say, you know, I wish I had
• 2:41:05
  Speaker 5: more kids. I've never met someone who said I wish
• 2:41:07
  Speaker 5: I had less. So if you're thinking about having three,
• 2:41:10
  Speaker 5: just do it.
• 2:41:10
  Speaker 2: Man, did you just want aid me? You?
• 2:41:12
  Speaker 5: Just you?
• 2:41:13
  Speaker 4: And the podcast the way it started that was incredible.
• 2:41:19
  Speaker 5: This is just my experience. Just go for it. You're
• 2:41:21
  Speaker 5: never going to regret the kids you have. Yeah, okay,
• 2:41:24
  Speaker 5: unless they're really bad.
• 2:41:27
  Speaker 4: In his face because you were like, it's so well worded.
• 2:41:31
  Speaker 4: You speak good, you speak real good, you speak good. Yeah, top,
• 2:41:40
  Speaker 4: I'll have another kid.
• 2:41:43
  Speaker 5: If you really are the attraction, you're never going to
• 2:41:46
  Speaker 5: be like man, like, you're right, I wish I had less,
• 2:41:49
  Speaker 5: but I am.
• 2:41:50
  Speaker 4: I'm so happy before my life's at right now. I
• 2:41:53
  Speaker 4: enjoy it. I don't care for diapers. I don't care
• 2:41:55
  Speaker 4: about that. I enjoy the beginning part, but the process,
• 2:41:59
  Speaker 4: I'm not in love with the process. I need to
• 2:42:00
  Speaker 4: get back in love with the process of having a kid.
• 2:42:02
  Speaker 5: Look you, your family is like a business. You gotta scale,
• 2:42:04
  Speaker 5: You gotta hire more, hire, hire someone to change.
• 2:42:07
  Speaker 4: I got, I got land that needs working, goats, I.
• 2:42:09
  Speaker 5: Got, I got fifty acres. You got like two hundred, man,
• 2:42:12
  Speaker 5: trust me, it's cool.
• 2:42:13
  Speaker 4: Thirteen. Yeah.
• 2:42:15
  Speaker 5: No, I'm saying I get it like I I I
• 2:42:18
  Speaker 5: got sick.
• 2:42:18
  Speaker 4: Bro, Yeah, you gotta you got, you gotta orchard. I
• 2:42:21
  Speaker 4: got a state. It sounds like that's sick. Two hundred acres, yeah,
• 2:42:26
  Speaker 4: out there? And leapers, aren't you?
• 2:42:27
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 2:42:28
  Speaker 4: Bro boy?
• 2:42:28
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 2:42:29
  Speaker 4: Nice? Nice? What's with all packers guys moving to uh Nashville?
• 2:42:33
  Speaker 4: What's the deal? It's coming out of territory.
• 2:42:35
  Speaker 1: I just I think we were just close when we
• 2:42:37
  Speaker 1: played while we had success. Now we're just just sticking together. Honest.
• 2:42:40
  Speaker 1: I think that's why I love it.
• 2:42:41
  Speaker 2: That is awesome.
• 2:42:42
  Speaker 1: But at the end, you know, you want to wrap
• 2:42:44
  Speaker 1: this up. I can see you taking those deep breaths
• 2:42:45
  Speaker 1: a lot.
• 2:42:46
  Speaker 4: But like the culture, well, I'm sweating because it's hot.
• 2:42:49
  Speaker 1: But but this is what was so and I guesaid,
• 2:42:52
  Speaker 1: this is what was so great about our team while
• 2:42:54
  Speaker 1: we had so much success, is that draft and developed
• 2:42:56
  Speaker 1: guys played seven, eight, nine, ten years there. It wasn't
• 2:42:59
  Speaker 1: like you were you know, some of these teams where
• 2:43:01
  Speaker 1: they're bringing in free age. We hardly ever brought in
• 2:43:03
  Speaker 1: free age. Maybe we did need to do that to
• 2:43:05
  Speaker 1: get over the hum but ultimately we had such success
• 2:43:07
  Speaker 1: because we had that core nucleus of guys and draft
• 2:43:10
  Speaker 1: and development. Yeah, and I think that's why you see,
• 2:43:12
  Speaker 1: you know, you got Mason Crosby and his family out here,
• 2:43:15
  Speaker 1: Randall Cobb, Baktiari. Obviously we moved out here, got some land,
• 2:43:20
  Speaker 1: but he's got he's got land all over the world,
• 2:43:22
  Speaker 1: so who knows where he's gonna, you know, cultivate. But yeah,
• 2:43:24
  Speaker 1: I mean it's I think we just all like being
• 2:43:26
  Speaker 1: close to each other and our families are so connected.
• 2:43:28
  Speaker 1: From the time we spent in Green Bay.
• 2:43:29
  Speaker 4: Dude, you brought up a guy. We love him, David
• 2:43:31
  Speaker 4: bat Just by the way, let's give a run a
• 2:43:33
  Speaker 4: plus for Dave. Just had a new kid. Actually, yeah,
• 2:43:37
  Speaker 4: I saw that, Desmond. Yeah, Yeah, how's uh do what
• 2:43:41
  Speaker 4: I was like the ultimate locker room guy.
• 2:43:44
  Speaker 1: Dave was like from the moment he got there to
• 2:43:47
  Speaker 1: where he finished, I mean, just complete one aid. He
• 2:43:51
  Speaker 1: talks to Corey Linsley about this, Like, Dave when he
• 2:43:54
  Speaker 1: got there, had his head down and whatnot. Then he
• 2:43:56
  Speaker 1: got he got a little taste of success and whatnot,
• 2:43:59
  Speaker 1: and then he just be came boch tr d boch.
• 2:44:03
  Speaker 1: You know, just like just as you know sixty nine
• 2:44:08
  Speaker 1: King Dinner for two. You know, like he became a character.
• 2:44:11
  Speaker 1: But I love him. I just text him yesterday obviously
• 2:44:13
  Speaker 1: when he had his uh, his boy and whatnot. But
• 2:44:15
  Speaker 1: we stay in touch. Our parents are close with his parents,
• 2:44:19
  Speaker 1: and I know his siblings and whatnot. I love him.
• 2:44:22
  Speaker 1: He was a amazing player. It's such a shame that
• 2:44:25
  Speaker 1: his uh time there and potentially in the league came
• 2:44:28
  Speaker 1: to an end with uh good right there with his
• 2:44:32
  Speaker 1: knee injury. Because I told im, I text him one
• 2:44:36
  Speaker 1: year he had gotten his second or third All Pro
• 2:44:38
  Speaker 1: so you're on your way to the Hall of Fame
• 2:44:40
  Speaker 1: and you know, but listen, that's a that's a separate
• 2:44:43
  Speaker 1: conversation about you know, financial security and getting your money,
• 2:44:46
  Speaker 1: and fans don't agree with that. But he's a stud
• 2:44:48
  Speaker 1: loved him, still love him. But he's ridiculous.
• 2:44:50
  Speaker 5: Remember we had him at my house before the draft.
• 2:44:52
  Speaker 5: He was coming out of Colorado and he wasn't a
• 2:44:55
  Speaker 5: big it's not a recruit, a big prospect in terms
• 2:44:58
  Speaker 5: of like a first round guy.
• 2:45:00
  Speaker 2: We had him down.
• 2:45:01
  Speaker 5: You guys came down the beach and I was just
• 2:45:03
  Speaker 5: chatting with him. I was like, Hey, what are you thinking?
• 2:45:04
  Speaker 5: Like how's it going. He's like, you know, I'm just
• 2:45:05
  Speaker 5: really eager to get an opportunity. I hope to get
• 2:45:07
  Speaker 5: drafted mid round, like you know, make a team. Improved myself,
• 2:45:10
  Speaker 5: like it wasn't a first round pick where it's like
• 2:45:13
  Speaker 5: if you're not going number six, you're pit you're pissed
• 2:45:15
  Speaker 5: right and and an incredible career I meant, But I
• 2:45:19
  Speaker 5: I got to spend more time with his brother Eric.
• 2:45:21
  Speaker 5: You guys hung out with Eric. I think we've been
• 2:45:23
  Speaker 5: around hung out with Eric. That's a different level of energy,
• 2:45:27
  Speaker 5: like just just.
• 2:45:29
  Speaker 1: Eye contact, like uninterrupted eye contact, you know. Yeah, his
• 2:45:34
  Speaker 1: dad car CYR. Yeah, dude, Dave is so awesome.
• 2:45:39
  Speaker 4: And Frankie too. Frankie is all time. She can she
• 2:45:43
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  Speaker 4: A yah, babyfaceby what how did that come about?
• 2:47:29
  Speaker 6: So?
• 2:47:29
  Speaker 1: So Josh, Josh sitting in TJ Lang and obviously David
• 2:47:34
  Speaker 1: were huge Pitch Perfect fans, and I have to admit
• 2:47:36
  Speaker 1: I hadn't watched it at the time, or maybe I had.
• 2:47:38
  Speaker 1: It was just you know, just just logged it away,
• 2:47:40
  Speaker 1: and so they were always reaching out. They were dming
• 2:47:43
  Speaker 1: the actors in it and the director and I'm forgetting
• 2:47:46
  Speaker 1: their names right, still trying to dat or possibly, but
• 2:47:50
  Speaker 1: so no, they I think one of them said like, hey,
• 2:47:52
  Speaker 1: if you ever need you know, what do they call
• 2:47:55
  Speaker 1: the background people? And so Elizabeth Banks is her name.
• 2:47:58
  Speaker 1: She had reached out and said, hey, you know, my
• 2:48:00
  Speaker 1: husband's a huge NFL fan. He's you know, the director
• 2:48:03
  Speaker 1: of this and our co director, and we want to
• 2:48:05
  Speaker 1: get you guys in. So Dave can He's like, oh,
• 2:48:07
  Speaker 1: she responded, bullshit, Like they're going to send over the script.
• 2:48:10
  Speaker 1: So it's remember the script, thinking we might have like
• 2:48:12
  Speaker 1: one or two It was like four to six pages
• 2:48:14
  Speaker 1: of like lines, dances, choreography and whatnot. So I think
• 2:48:18
  Speaker 1: we went down to Baton Rouge or one of these
• 2:48:20
  Speaker 1: Louisiana cities and filmed it over like two or three days.
• 2:48:23
  Speaker 1: And I'm telling you it was it was so nerve
• 2:48:25
  Speaker 1: wracking just do it because it was it's so out
• 2:48:27
  Speaker 1: of our element. You know, we played with a helmet
• 2:48:28
  Speaker 1: on and you're one of a team, but you know,
• 2:48:30
  Speaker 1: having a dance, we really had to embrace it.
• 2:48:32
  Speaker 5: Did a great job. I swear, like more people know
• 2:48:34
  Speaker 5: you from that than Yeah.
• 2:48:35
  Speaker 1: Well nowadays it used to be football. Now there's like
• 2:48:37
  Speaker 1: pitch perfect. I'll take it.
• 2:48:39
  Speaker 5: I'll tell you like Clay Clay Clay had gotten big,
• 2:48:42
  Speaker 5: you know, he was all especially in the NFL. But
• 2:48:44
  Speaker 5: when he did, I was like, damn, that guy looks big.
• 2:48:46
  Speaker 5: Like I was like, I can go and do some curls.
• 2:48:48
  Speaker 5: I was like doing curlsy and and cheeseburg.
• 2:48:49
  Speaker 4: When you want when you go into wardrobe, did you
• 2:48:51
  Speaker 4: make the decision to figure sleeves off?
• 2:48:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was me. So they had me and it's
• 2:48:55
  Speaker 1: in fact, I got a lot.
• 2:48:58
  Speaker 5: Now question day.
• 2:49:00
  Speaker 4: That's nuts.
• 2:49:00
  Speaker 1: That's that's like June July, like like yeah, a couple
• 2:49:06
  Speaker 1: of push ups before absolutely. Yeah. So so I looked
• 2:49:09
  Speaker 1: at the script and they had me in there, and
• 2:49:11
  Speaker 1: I go, what if we what if we cut off
• 2:49:13
  Speaker 1: my sleeves and like, what if we can rip them off?
• 2:49:17
  Speaker 1: And I went and they were they were receptive to it.
• 2:49:19
  Speaker 1: So I I haven't cut it off and they had
• 2:49:21
  Speaker 1: little magnets on it and I was wearing a washer.
• 2:49:24
  Speaker 1: They had me take it off and we did a
• 2:49:25
  Speaker 1: couple of things, and they just they just they ripped
• 2:49:26
  Speaker 1: it off, and.
• 2:49:27
  Speaker 5: How many how many roles did you do before that was?
• 2:49:30
  Speaker 1: This is the end of the off season, so I
• 2:49:31
  Speaker 1: was peak. So I pulled my all.
• 2:49:36
  Speaker 4: The July body compared to the January body. Her hands gone, yeah,
• 2:49:42
  Speaker 4: this is brutal July.
• 2:49:43
  Speaker 1: That's all the thirst picks for my wife were in there. Now,
• 2:49:47
  Speaker 1: now I put a sleep with a shirt on.
• 2:49:49
  Speaker 4: You do you want to tell me your Delanney story?
• 2:49:56
  Speaker 2: Delanny Walker? Yeah, So Delaney had broke his leg. Delanney
• 2:49:59
  Speaker 2: was out all year long. We're going on, you know,
• 2:50:02
  Speaker 2: we're at the end of the season and it's December
• 2:50:04
  Speaker 2: and Delaney's in the hot tub fixing the rehab, and
• 2:50:08
  Speaker 2: we go in, you know, to warm up for practice.
• 2:50:11
  Speaker 2: So I get in there and Delaney's like, damn, come
• 2:50:14
  Speaker 2: you let yourself go. You stop working I was like, what, damn?
• 2:50:16
  Speaker 2: Why you gotta say you got the tight you got
• 2:50:18
  Speaker 2: the tight tights on, I got the muffin top.
• 2:50:21
  Speaker 1: You said you.
• 2:50:21
  Speaker 2: Stopped working out. I was like, all right, I guess
• 2:50:23
  Speaker 2: I'll just join you guys in this hot tub and
• 2:50:25
  Speaker 2: have some good advicees before I go out to practice.
• 2:50:27
  Speaker 2: Just thinking that I just wanted to kill myself in
• 2:50:28
  Speaker 2: that moment.
• 2:50:29
  Speaker 1: Well, there's nothing worse. I we brought in like a
• 2:50:31
  Speaker 1: freeze halfway through the season. One time, its like forgive me.
• 2:50:35
  Speaker 1: It was like a nobody you know, and he comes up.
• 2:50:37
  Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, Claire, I thought you were a lot bigger.
• 2:50:39
  Speaker 1: I was like, I am, it's just like week eight
• 2:50:42
  Speaker 1: and I can't work out like I was. I just
• 2:50:43
  Speaker 1: like went home, like because that's the one thing if
• 2:50:45
  Speaker 1: you talk to like for me, I don't know how
• 2:50:46
  Speaker 1: this is with you guys, but somebody says like, man,
• 2:50:48
  Speaker 1: you're looking like trim or skinny or something when they're
• 2:50:51
  Speaker 1: trying to give you a compliment, that would just mess
• 2:50:53
  Speaker 1: with my head. I'm like, no, I look good, Like
• 2:50:55
  Speaker 1: what are you talking about?
• 2:50:56
  Speaker 2: I would mess with them to people say damn cud
• 2:50:58
  Speaker 2: it is holiday season.
• 2:51:01
  Speaker 5: I'll mess with them in the office like if somehow
• 2:51:03
  Speaker 5: we're you know, just button has to be like hey, man,
• 2:51:05
  Speaker 5: you're looking good like you cutting weight, like you're looking
• 2:51:07
  Speaker 5: real thin, and like, Wiries, what do you mean?
• 2:51:11
  Speaker 7: What do you mean?
• 2:51:12
  Speaker 2: You know? I wish I didn't wiry? Oh ship, oh ship, Yeah,
• 2:51:18
  Speaker 2: yeah's got it. He's prepped hearing him talk.
• 2:51:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a little text.
• 2:51:25
  Speaker 5: I have a Nashville business journal. And then I have
• 2:51:28
  Speaker 5: another interview with a designer from New York. What's your name,
• 2:51:32
  Speaker 5: Rebecca Nice?
• 2:51:35
  Speaker 2: Hey, guys, this has been so much fun, really a
• 2:51:39
  Speaker 2: lot of fun.
• 2:51:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, did you get some time come to UFC fight.
• 2:51:43
  Speaker 2: Let's get out there like this one UFC fight. Get
• 2:51:47
  Speaker 2: the boys together.
• 2:51:48
  Speaker 4: Yea, what I'm saying some fun, But you're.
• 2:51:51
  Speaker 2: Saying my fault. I thought you meant like go out
• 2:51:54
  Speaker 2: to Vegas, That's what I'm saying. Oh, I was thinking,
• 2:51:56
  Speaker 2: like we're here in Nashville, like we just get ye
• 2:51:58
  Speaker 2: lit UFC.
• 2:51:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can do that as well.
• 2:52:01
  Speaker 4: Able to go over to you guys as five thousand acres. Well,
• 2:52:03
  Speaker 4: we'll all sit in different spots, your shirt.
• 2:52:07
  Speaker 5: Shirts space, and we'll all have our own couch because
• 2:52:10
  Speaker 5: this is like super close. This time we had some
• 2:52:13
  Speaker 5: bigger ones.
• 2:52:13
  Speaker 4: We'll figure it all.
• 2:52:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be fun, all right, boys, Hey, big huns,
• 2:52:18
  Speaker 2: Donny kiss the subscribe, make sure you are leaving comments.
• 2:52:21
  Speaker 4: See you.
• 2:52:22
  Speaker 2: Hey, that was fun.
• 2:52:23
  Speaker 9: That was