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Fair Territory: Winter moves fan Q&A, Correa/Altuve out of WBC · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to the Thursday edition of Fair Territory. Sorry
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  Speaker 1: for the little bit of a late start. We had
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  Speaker 1: some technical difficulties. I'm Ken Rosenthal. We are here with
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  Speaker 1: Alana Rizzo and Alana, it seems like your attire is
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  Speaker 1: a little bit different today.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, technical difficulties. I can technical difficulties, wardrobe malfunction. The
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  Speaker 2: only reason Ken, I am wearing this is because I
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  Speaker 2: lost a bet to Jeremy Meyer, our wonderful producer. I
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  Speaker 2: am a Broncos fan. It is the Patriots that are
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  Speaker 2: going to the Super Bowl, so I am a woman
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  Speaker 2: of my word. I am fulfilling my bet. More on
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  Speaker 2: that coming up and Dude and Dork of the week.
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  Speaker 2: Much more entertaining things to talk about though, with you baseball,
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  Speaker 2: let's talk about it. You had a one on one
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  Speaker 2: with Mark de Rosa, manager of Team USA. How do
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  Speaker 2: you see this team, Ken, for the WBC kind of
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  Speaker 2: shaping up under the leadership of Mark de Rosa.
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  Speaker 1: Well was I wrote in a story today, Alana. This
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  Speaker 1: is the strongest WBC team the usas fielded, and this
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  Speaker 1: is the sixth WBC, so we've had something of a
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  Speaker 1: history now and Team USA won in twenty seventeen, but
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  Speaker 1: if you compare the two rosters, they're not even close.
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  Speaker 1: And I go through that and story, and the biggest
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  Speaker 1: thing that has changed over the years is the willingness
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  Speaker 1: of superstar Major leaguers to participate in this tournament. For
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  Speaker 1: a long time, understandably so, there was reluctance, why am
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  Speaker 1: I disrupting my spring training. Teams were of course not
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  Speaker 1: into it. They still aren't into it for the most part.
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  Speaker 1: But the last WBC, the one in twenty twenty three,
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  Speaker 1: was so electric, so much a tribute to the sport
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  Speaker 1: and all the sport, all that the sport can be.
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  Speaker 1: It swayed a lot of people. It swayed a lot
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  Speaker 1: of fans, It swayed a lot of players. It may
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  Speaker 1: have even swayed some teams to say, Okay, we get it.
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  Speaker 1: For those fans out there who are critical of the WBC,
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  Speaker 1: I understand. You don't want your players disrupted. You want
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  Speaker 1: them simply devoted to their teams, your favorite teams. I
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  Speaker 1: will only say this, watch the games, watch this sport
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  Speaker 1: at its highest level. And that's what it is. When
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  Speaker 1: you have all these great players from all these different
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  Speaker 1: countries competing in one tournament. You see elite baseball, and
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  Speaker 1: that is what we saw the last time. Just so happened.
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  Speaker 1: We got a slew of dramatic games as well, So
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  Speaker 1: I'm expecting that the tournament is going to be just
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  Speaker 1: as much fun this year. And again Aaron Judge, cal
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  Speaker 1: Raley on one team, with Bobby Witt, with Corbyn Carroll,
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  Speaker 1: with all these other superstars, Bryce Harper, then you have
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  Speaker 1: Tarrek Schouble and Paul Sken's heading the starting rotation. That's
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  Speaker 1: pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: Really good Ken. And you know there have been some
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  Speaker 2: times where we'll talk about it a little bit too.
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  Speaker 2: Carlos Correa, Jose al Tuove not participating me because of
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  Speaker 2: an insurance issue. But Clayton Kershaw Ken had that same
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  Speaker 2: issue the last time the WBC came around. But he's
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  Speaker 2: retired now and Mark Durossa has Clayton Kershaw on his team.
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  Speaker 2: What more can you tell us about his role his
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  Speaker 2: perceived role?
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  Speaker 1: I remember Kershaw was disappointed in twenty three when he
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  Speaker 1: wasn't cleared by insurance, and we'll explain that in a second, Alana,
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  Speaker 1: as you said, but in this particular instance, with him
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  Speaker 1: now retired and not affiliated with any major league franchise.
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  Speaker 1: He is actually going to play potentially an important role
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  Speaker 1: for Team USA because there could be a circumstance that
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  Speaker 1: comes about where they need a long man, where you
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  Speaker 1: need a guy to suck up four or five innings.
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  Speaker 1: Because so many pictures in this tournament for USA and
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  Speaker 1: other countries as well, will be under restrictions imposed by
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  Speaker 1: their teams. In many cases, most cases understandable restrictions because
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  Speaker 1: of course it's the middle of spring training. You don't
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  Speaker 1: want your starting pitchers going seven innings. You don't want
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  Speaker 1: necessarily your relievers going back to back days. And in
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  Speaker 1: the last tournament in twenty twenty three, De Rosa explains
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  Speaker 1: this in the article they Got Caught. They got caught
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  Speaker 1: in a game against Mexico because they basically ran out
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  Speaker 1: of pitching. They had to kind of have Brady Singer
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  Speaker 1: wear it a little bit. And in the next game,
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  Speaker 1: which was against Canada the next day, Team USA was
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  Speaker 1: very fortunate that lance Lynn went sixty five pitches and
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  Speaker 1: five innings because basically they were out of pitching. So
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  Speaker 1: Kershaw will serve that role as basically someone who mops
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  Speaker 1: it up if necessary, whether in a route in the
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  Speaker 1: USA's favor, or in the other team's favor, and that
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  Speaker 1: is actually an important role. He might never pitch, he
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  Speaker 1: might end up pitching four innings in one game. He
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  Speaker 1: might end up pitching one inning. But to have a
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  Speaker 1: guy like that not affiliated with the team is valuable
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  Speaker 1: because if you had a major league pitcher in that
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  Speaker 1: role and you're telling his team, hey, we might not
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  Speaker 1: pitch them, we might we might pitch them a lot,
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  Speaker 1: that major league team is not going to be satisfied
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  Speaker 1: with that answer.
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  Speaker 2: Ken, Is that why the Giants are asking Logan Webb
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  Speaker 2: to take a pass on the WBC.
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  Speaker 1: The Giants are asking him to take a pass on
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  Speaker 1: the WBC for the same reason every team would prefer
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  Speaker 1: their top pitchers and players not to play. It's the
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  Speaker 1: risk of injury. It's all that. And teams just have concerns,
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  Speaker 1: understandably because there's a lot of money invested in these
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  Speaker 1: players and you don't want to see them get hurt.
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  Speaker 1: But a lot of we were talking about this off air,
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  Speaker 1: and I want to hear your thoughts on air about
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  Speaker 1: how the risk in the WBC, while it's there, it's
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  Speaker 1: not necessarily a greater risk than pitching in spring training. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: the stress level is higher, but you could get You
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  Speaker 1: could get hurt in either environment, no.
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  Speaker 2: No question about that. You can get hurt just as
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  Speaker 2: easily in spring training Ken and no one's making a
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  Speaker 2: big deal out of it because obviously you're working out.
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  Speaker 2: Accidents and injuries happen, But you could easily get hurt
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  Speaker 2: in the WBC. And people are blowing that what I
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  Speaker 2: believe they're blowing it out of proportion.
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  Speaker 1: But think about it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you could walk outside and get you know,
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  Speaker 2: stumble over a log or slip on ice, or fall
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  Speaker 2: up the stairs or whatever it is. I mean, there's
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  Speaker 2: ways to get hurt that have nothing to do with baseball.
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  Speaker 2: So allow your team to play for the WBC. I
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  Speaker 2: understand why teams are hesitant.
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  Speaker 1: I get it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, these are highly paid players, and you know
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  Speaker 2: it's a commodity for the team. But it's an honor
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  Speaker 2: not to put on this jersey, this Patriots jersey, but
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  Speaker 2: it is an honor to put on a WBC team
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  Speaker 2: USA jersey. That being said, can it doesn't look like
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  Speaker 2: the Astros are going to allow Jose Altuve and Carlos
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  Speaker 2: care at a player. Maybe it's more of an insurance
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  Speaker 2: issue for those two players because the Astros have had
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  Speaker 2: some injury prone years as of late. What more can
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  Speaker 2: you tell us?
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  Speaker 1: Well, what the astros are saying and what the players
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  Speaker 1: are saying is that it is an insurance issue. Now,
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  Speaker 1: let me explain how this works. So each player in
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  Speaker 1: the WBC has to be insured, and MLB and the
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  Speaker 1: Union pick and insurer, and that insurer basically evaluates every
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  Speaker 1: player and when it denies insurance because perhaps of past
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  Speaker 1: injuries in Korea's case or without Tuove, he had an
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  Speaker 1: offseason surgery, albeit a minor one, but he had one,
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  Speaker 1: then the team can go ahead and have the player
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  Speaker 1: play if they guarantee a salary. But if they don't,
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  Speaker 1: and most teams are not going to guarantee a player's
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  Speaker 1: salary if he's not insured. If they don't do that,
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  Speaker 1: then the player is risking losing his salary if he
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  Speaker 1: gets hurt during the WBC. So when a player like
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  Speaker 1: Kara is told you're not getting insured, he's not going
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  Speaker 1: to play and risk his entire salary because if he
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  Speaker 1: gets hurt in some freak way, he won't get paid.
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  Speaker 1: And that is obviously a huge risk. And you see
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  Speaker 1: this surface from time to time with different players. We
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  Speaker 1: talked about Kershaw in twenty three. Now the Dodgers were
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  Speaker 1: not willing to guarantee his salary, so he didn't play.
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  Speaker 1: The Tigers, on the other hand, did make that exception
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  Speaker 1: for Miguel Cabrera. I'm not sure why. I don't remember
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  Speaker 1: the exact circumstances, but that's rare. You don't see a
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  Speaker 1: team say go to the dB, go to the WBC.
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  Speaker 1: If you get hurt, we'll pay you. That doesn't generally happen, No.
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  Speaker 2: It does not.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: Channler Rome, who does a great job covering the Houston
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  Speaker 2: Astros you can also see him on Crush City Territory,
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  Speaker 2: had an article about what Carlos Korea was saying. Ken
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  Speaker 2: about the injuries with the Astros quote, we had way
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  Speaker 2: too many injuries last year, and I feel like when
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  Speaker 2: I got here, people did not have the routine they
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  Speaker 2: needed to have in order for them to be able
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  Speaker 2: to withstand the whole season. That's coming from Carlos Carea.
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  Speaker 2: You can see it here more on Chandler Rome's story
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  Speaker 2: in the Athletic. I mean, is that kind of something
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  Speaker 2: that the leadership in terms of the players are feeling
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  Speaker 2: with Houston? Ken I don't want you to for Carlos Korea,
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  Speaker 2: but injuries were an issue for that club last year.
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  Speaker 1: Injuries have been an issue for this team for several years.
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  Speaker 1: If you go back to twenty four, Kyle Tucker had
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  Speaker 1: that stress fracture. I believe in his shit that was misdiagnosed,
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  Speaker 1: and there have been a number of different things with
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  Speaker 1: the Astros over the years. I don't know what their
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  Speaker 1: protocols are. I don't know what the problem is. But Correa,
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  Speaker 1: who is generally one of the most honest players in
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  Speaker 1: the game, is speaking to conditioning it sounds like and
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  Speaker 1: routines as much as he is medical treatment. So what
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  Speaker 1: he's saying is that the players have to get their
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  Speaker 1: acts together, that the organization has to get its act together.
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  Speaker 1: And obviously, when you're a team the caliber of Houston,
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  Speaker 1: you don't want injuries, unnecessary injuries, perhaps compromising your season.
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  Speaker 1: And Korea is while an injury prone player in many ways,
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  Speaker 1: he's had a lot of stuff. He takes great care
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  Speaker 1: of himself, and he's a guy that is tune to
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  Speaker 1: all of the physical aspects of.
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  Speaker 2: The game, and he tell you what he is one
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  Speaker 2: of the guys that is most intelligent and well educated
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  Speaker 2: on the saber metrics of the game. You talked to
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  Speaker 2: Carlos Korea. He's completely into all of the analytics stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But it is safe to say that the astros and
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  Speaker 2: injuries a touchy subject, can to say the least. For
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  Speaker 2: We'll be back with Grohan Ken right after this. All right,
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  Speaker 2: welcome back to Fair Territory with Ken Rosenthalis. Time now
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  Speaker 2: to ask Ken some questions. The first one is in
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  Speaker 2: regards to the Braves. Ken Tyler Max Switt Smith wants
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  Speaker 2: to know should the Braves add a right handed bat
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  Speaker 2: to pair with Yaz in left field as a DH,
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  Speaker 2: especially with Kim and Murphy out to start the year.
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  Speaker 2: Could in ozoona return makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: I hadn't actually thought about this, but with the injuries
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  Speaker 1: that they're dealing with with Kim and Murphy at the
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  Speaker 1: start the year, it is something that perhaps they would consider.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that it would be a guy like
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  Speaker 1: a Zuna that they'd have to pay a good amount
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  Speaker 1: of money too. Maybe it's a lesser player or even
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  Speaker 1: a non roster player. There's still a lot of free
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  Speaker 1: agents out there and some are going to have to
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  Speaker 1: take non roster deals. Their biggest focus, of course, remains
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  Speaker 1: a starting pitcher. That is something they want to do,
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  Speaker 1: but it's something they haven't done yet, so that will
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  Speaker 1: be an interesting thing to keep an eye on. Good
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  Speaker 1: question there.
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  Speaker 2: All right, what starting pitcher? Are you surprised Ken is
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  Speaker 2: still on the free agent market? Perhaps maybe from Bervaldez
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  Speaker 2: and Zach Gallan This is from armand is amazing, and
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  Speaker 2: maybe the question is are you surprised that both of
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  Speaker 2: them are still available?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I am surprised both are still out there. We
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  Speaker 1: do see every year players linger and not get their
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: values early in free agency and wait to see if
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  Speaker 1: they can get it later. Now from for Valdez and
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: Galen are two entirely different types. Even though they're both
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  Speaker 1: qualifying offer free agents, both rejected qualifying offers and therefore
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  Speaker 1: are subject to drafted compensation. Valdez, it seems to me
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  Speaker 1: it's his age thirty two. Perhaps what he is seeking
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  Speaker 1: that he is not getting. Perhaps that's part of it,
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  Speaker 1: that he's aiming too high, and certainly this cross up
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  Speaker 1: with Sesar Zalazar, the rookie catcher last year, did not
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  Speaker 1: help his reputation within the game, and it seems to
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  Speaker 1: me from the outside, I don't know this for a fact,
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  Speaker 1: that that could be could be affecting his market. Gallen,
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  Speaker 1: I've discussed this in other places. I've written about it.
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  Speaker 1: He was perhaps the least accomplished of the players who
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  Speaker 1: rejected qualifying offers, and it seems that that kind of
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  Speaker 1: player every year kind of gets squeaked and Gallon, it's
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  Speaker 1: a really good pitcher. He had a bad first four
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  Speaker 1: months and a pretty good last two months, a very
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  Speaker 1: good last two months. To me, he is worth three
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  Speaker 1: or four years whatever it might take to get him.
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  Speaker 1: But it seems right now he's not getting it. And
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  Speaker 1: what I foresee for him is following the path that
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  Speaker 1: other Scott Boars clients have followed in use years, short
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  Speaker 1: term deal opt outs, try again next year without.
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  Speaker 2: The qualifying offer. Yeah, kind of like the Cody Bellinger
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  Speaker 2: before he just signed the one sixty five with the
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  Speaker 2: New York Yankees. You mentioned the qualifying offer Ken, how
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  Speaker 2: much do you think that being tied to a free
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  Speaker 2: agent player is a factor.
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  Speaker 1: It definitely is now, it's not for the Juan Soto's
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  Speaker 1: of the world, the Kyle Tuckers of the world. And
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  Speaker 1: when Diaz teams factor it into the equation. We're losing
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  Speaker 1: two draft picks. That is additional cost to what the
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  Speaker 1: salary's going to be. But when the player is good enough,
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  Speaker 1: you're not going to be restricted by that. When you
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  Speaker 1: have a player who is good but not maybe elite,
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  Speaker 1: then you're like, maybe we don't want to do this.
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  Speaker 1: And also depends on a team's draft position. At times,
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  Speaker 1: you can't lose your first round or anymore, but you
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  Speaker 1: lose your second and fifth picks if you're a big
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  Speaker 1: market team signing one of these guys, and that is
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  Speaker 1: prohibitive or at least a deterrent for some clubs.
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  Speaker 2: This is a good question. I've often wondered this myself.
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  Speaker 2: This one comes from Ryan s seven to four to
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  Speaker 2: one four. What's the biggest misconception readers have about anonymous
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  Speaker 2: sourcing and how do you internally vet credibility before publishing?
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  Speaker 2: How do you become the insider that you.
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  Speaker 1: Are well the biggest misconception readers have about sourcing is
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  Speaker 1: when they try to figure out where stuff is coming from.
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  Speaker 1: Now sometimes, yes, it is the obvious person you might think,
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  Speaker 1: or an obvious group of people you might think, But
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  Speaker 1: oftentimes stuff comes out of nowhere. Oftentimes there is not
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  Speaker 1: an agenda. People are always trying to read agendas and
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  Speaker 1: it just kind of works in a variety of ways.
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  Speaker 1: And the other part of this is would you ask
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  Speaker 1: about vetting. That's a good question because when you're in
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  Speaker 1: this position as a reporter, you have to understand that
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  Speaker 1: certain people in the industry, certain sources might be trying
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  Speaker 1: to use you, and you have to read that. Have
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  Speaker 1: I been one hundred good at that or perfect at
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  Speaker 1: that in my career, No, there have been times where
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  Speaker 1: I've missed because I misread somebody or was used frankly
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  Speaker 1: by that person. But you do your best, and for
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  Speaker 1: the majority of us who do this, our track records
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  Speaker 1: are very good. We don't miss very often. But there
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  Speaker 1: are times where, yeah, you have to be very understanding
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  Speaker 1: of where a person is coming from. And that was
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: something that was taught to me early in my career.
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  Speaker 1: And again, I'm not perfect. No one's perfect. But over
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  Speaker 1: the years I've tried to be as diligent about that
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  Speaker 1: as possible.
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  Speaker 2: How much does trust play into your sources can and
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  Speaker 2: the relationship building and knowing who you can legitimately trust.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of that's everything, and that goes both ways.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, it's not just me trusting the sources,
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  Speaker 4: it's the sources trusting me to handle a particular story
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  Speaker 4: or transaction, whatever the case might be, in the proper
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  Speaker 4: professional way.
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  Speaker 1: And it takes a long time to build that up.
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  Speaker 1: I often have, In fact, I had just yesterday a
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  Speaker 1: young person say Hey, how do I get to be
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  Speaker 1: an insider? Doesn't happen overnight. It takes time to build
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  Speaker 1: your own credibility. It takes time for you to amass
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  Speaker 1: a group of sources or people in the game that
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: will talk to you. And these things do not happen overnight.
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  Speaker 2: Like anything. It's relationship building and trust and you are
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  Speaker 1: Dude, Dude, dude.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: All right, Ken, there's been a lot of news this week,
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks about the Washington Post. I
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: want to talk a bit about your dude of the week.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: My dude of the week are the Washington Post sports
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: writers and all of the Washington Post sports writers that
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: I've read and admired over the years. If you don't
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: know what is happening at the Washington Post, Basically there's
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: talk of mass layoffs, the elimination potentially of the sports
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: department and the international reporting department, which is one of
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: the best in the world, and so many people at
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: the Washington Post have been inspirations to me. I'm not
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: going to name them all right here, but it's one
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: of the best sports sections in the country. It has
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: been one of the best sports sections in the country.
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  Speaker 1: I tweeted my thoughts the other day about the way
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: it's been handled and all of that. But this is
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: simply to express my admiration and also my concern for
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: what is going on there, to all my friends who
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: work there and all my friends who have worked there
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: in the past. So Washington Post sports writers due.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: To the weeks, absolutely such talented, hardworking people, certainly hoping
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: for the best that that situation resolves itself in a
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: positive way. My due to the week is the Colorado Rockies,
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  Speaker 2: and the reason I say it, and I don't often
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  Speaker 2: give them praise. I think they're headed in the right
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  Speaker 2: direction though, and I like that with Paul Di Pavesto
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: and obviously Walker mon for taking over. But I am
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: giving them the due to the week because they're doing this.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: They are doing a statue unveiling of two Hall of famers,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: of course Larry Walker on August twenty third, Todd Helton,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: who I got the privilege of covering for a lot
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: of his career in Colorado on September nineteenth, obviously both
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: in cooper'stown. And I like that they're doing it separately
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: so each man has his proper due. Congratulations, rockies, you
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: are my dudes of the week.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Time now for our dork of the week. All right, Ken,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: you're going off the beaten path again this week?
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: What is it? I am? And I'm very happy to
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: go off the beaten path for this particular group, the
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: dork of the week. The dorks of the week, in
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: my opinion, are the NFL Hall of Fame voters. Now,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: I understand that Bill Belichick didn't get put in on
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: the first try because of some process questions with the
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: voting It's been a different process than in the past,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: and voters found it difficult to kind of sort through it.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I get that. All all I'm saying is this one
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: can't be blamed on the BBWAA. We had nothing to
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: do with it. We're all your complain about our own votes,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: and perhaps some justifiable complaints about our votes, but this one,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: this has nothing to do with us. So I'm living large.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sitting pretty in the NFL Hall of Fame. Writers
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  Speaker 1: there the dorks of the week.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: That's all right, It's about time. I don't like the Patriots.
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  Speaker 2: I can't stand the Patriots despite having to wear this
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: stupid jersey. But Bill Belichick is a first ballot Hall
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: of Famer, and anybody I think there's been fifty nine
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Super Bowls and he's won eight of them.
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  Speaker 1: So stop it.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, he's a first ballot Hall of Famer, all right.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: My dude to the or dork of the week is
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: myself because I made a bet with our wonderful producer,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Jeremy Meyer, and also Andy Ottovic, who does a great
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: job with the medical team for the Los Angeles Dodgers,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: who is a Patriots fan, that the Broncos were going
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: to beat the Patriots of the AFC Championship. And also
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: dork of the week is Sean Payton for not kicking
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: the simple points, the easy points early in the game
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: and deciding to go forward on fourth and one so
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: I have to wear this stupid jersey. I am my
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: own dork of the week. I am not going to
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: be enjoying the Super Bowl. And there you have it. Yeah,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: that's it. I'm the dork of the week and Sean Payton,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: you too are the dork of the week. And by
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: the way, why did we fire our offensive coordinator when
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Sean Payton is the one calling all of the offensive calls? Hey,
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: you know whatever, it's fine. We do have one more question.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: That was a rant worthy of your old partner the
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: mad Dog.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, seriously, but I'm doing it at a lower
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: octave than Chris Russo would do it. One more question
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: for you, Ken before we get to break here, Jim
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Jim Wood that wants to know can someone please wake
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: up the Mariners?
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Ken?
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: What are the Ends doing.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Good? Question? And Josh Naylor was their big acquisition early,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: but we've all anticipated that in addition to getting the
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: bullpen piece that they did with Jose Ferrera, which was
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: good from the Nationals. We all thought they were going
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: to get one more infielder. They still might get one more.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: They've been linked to Brendan Donovan. Brendan Donovan has not
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: been traded yet. There are other infielders that still might
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: be available. So I would not judge the Mariners anymore
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: than I would have judged the Mets two weeks ago
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: when it seems their off season is not complete. Still
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: a long way to go before opening day, and heck,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: there's a week to go before spring training camps open,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: and that's not really a deadline of any sort. So
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: given Mariners a little bit more time before condemning them,
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  Speaker 1: that's what I would say.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, a little bit more time. I'm still surprised that
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: a U henne O Suarez is still out there on
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: the free agent market. I think a lot of people
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: are surprised about that as well. We didn't necessarily want
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: this to be a WBC preview, but there have been
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: some additional announcements regarding the World Baseball Classic, particularly with
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Team Venezuela, Jackson Curio, Ronald Acunia Junior, will You Abray You?
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: And MIKEL. Garcia all going to be part of the WBC.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: I love this for Team Venezuela, they have always been
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: a force. Again you said it earlier, but in case
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: you're just joining us, this is good for the game, Ken,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: this is fun. You want these star players representing their countries.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: And plus what we've seen over the years in the
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: WBC and now we're seeing from our team as well
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: the US team is this sense of national pride and
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Akunya and Churio, these guys, the players from the Dominican Republic,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: the players from all the different countries, Japan especially, perhaps
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: they love playing for their countries. They see it as
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: an obligation to play for their countries. And Paul Skeens
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: when he talked to Mark de Rose about playing for
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Team USA, he said, you don't have to twist my arm,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: you don't have to pitch me at all. I want
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: to play for all the servicemen and service women out there.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Paul Skeins, of course, went to the US Air Force
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Academy before LSU. So there is that growing sense of
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: pride in playing for your country, and that is a
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: really cool thing to see and it adds a layer
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: of emotion to this tournament. That you just don't see
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball on a regular basis. You'll maybe
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: see that kind of emotion in the playoffs, of course,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: but in this tournament you see it.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Every night now or Force Academy in Colorado Springs, Colorado
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: birthplace to yours truly, Colorado Springs, Colorado. Let me ask
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: you this, Ken, when do you think it was the
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: shift of players not really caring about the WBC and
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden clamoring to be called to play.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: That shift took place really with US players. There wasn't
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: a shift necessary with players from other countries before that.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: But that twenty twenty three WBC. If you remember Trey
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Turner's Grand Slam against Venezuela in the quarterfinals, it was
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: a go ahead Grand Slam, amazing moment, and of course
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: the final against Japan, when Otani came in from the
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: bullpen to face his then Los Angeles Angels teammate Mike
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Trout and strike him out to give Japan that victory
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: in an amazing game, three to two Japan one. All
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: of that and all of the games that preceded it
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: that were so dramatic and so emotional and so just
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: electric that is what caused the shift among the US players.
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  Speaker 1: The one two maybe were reluctant before suddenly they all
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: want it in.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. I'll never forget when Mike Trout
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: walked out holding the US flag and show Heytani walked
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: out wearing team holding Team Japan. That was awesome. All right,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: thanks guys for watching and listening. Foul Territory is next.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Fair with Ken is back on Monday. We'll talk to
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: you then